Re: [Leaf-devel] Drivers & Images
On Wed, 24 Jan 2001 22:59:29 George Metz wrote: > On Wed, 24 Jan 2001, Jack Coates wrote: > > > Nah, we need an idiot-to-engineer converter more. Something like the > > Star-On and Star-Off machines in Dr. Seuss' _The Sneetches_, only > you put > > in marketing people. > > > > Just had someone tell me that his new startup is going to produce 50 > > Terabytes a month of multimedia traffic on the Internet. Yes folks, > that > > really is 4,341.76 Mbps. > > Yow. > > You did, of course, at that point do the correct, ethical, and overly > honest thing I hope? 'Cause if you didn't neglect to disillusion him > and > instead sell him the OC-192, I shall be ever so disappointed in you. > =) > > -- > George Metz > Commercial Routing Engineer > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > well, I did take the trouble to divide what he said he wanted in half. He said "we're going to produce 5 to 50 Terabytes a month", and I heard (45/2)/30/24 = .03125 TBph. Convert to Megabits and you have 262,144 Mbph / 60 = 4,369 Mbps. Hmm, different. I did this the first time on my Palm and had to do the conversion in order to keep the calculator doing decimal notation. I think my little Palm convert program is giving me a wrong number. .03125 TBph should be 031,250 MBph should be 520 MBps should be 4,166.66 Mbps. Got that number twice so it must be the right one :-) Anyway, I didn't say anything, I just let the account manager know that they were clueless as soon as we hit the parking lot. They were giving these numbers to our media streaming group anyway. I wish we had a OC-192 to sell. I could do an OC-48 within a couple of months, but a 192 would mean new fiber. And a few cardiac arrests at our backbone providers: choose color-by-bandwidth at http://www.caida.org/tools/visualization/mapnet/Backbones/ and you'll see an awful lot of DS-3 and OC-3 :-) -- Jack Coates Monkeynoodle: It's what's for dinner! ___ Leaf-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/leaf-devel
Re: [Leaf-devel] Drivers & Images
At 10:07 PM 1/24/01 -0800, "Kenneth Hadley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >alrighty folks...I have a PPPd based Eigerstein2BETA available on my site >( http://leaf.sourceforge.net/khadley/ ) >If anyone would test this and let me know of any probs >I will run a announce on the LRP list latter this week if it appears the >image is ok Kenneth, That was quick. I'll try to look at it this weekend, and give you some feedback. Thanks for creating a ppp dial-on-demand image. :) -- Mike Noyes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://leaf.sourceforge.net/ ___ Leaf-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/leaf-devel
Re: [Leaf-devel] Drivers & Images
On Wed, 24 Jan 2001, Jack Coates wrote: > Nah, we need an idiot-to-engineer converter more. Something like the > Star-On and Star-Off machines in Dr. Seuss' _The Sneetches_, only you put > in marketing people. > > Just had someone tell me that his new startup is going to produce 50 > Terabytes a month of multimedia traffic on the Internet. Yes folks, that > really is 4,341.76 Mbps. Yow. You did, of course, at that point do the correct, ethical, and overly honest thing I hope? 'Cause if you didn't neglect to disillusion him and instead sell him the OC-192, I shall be ever so disappointed in you. =) -- George Metz Commercial Routing Engineer [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Leaf-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/leaf-devel
Re: [Leaf-devel] Drivers & Images
alrighty folks...I have a PPPd based Eigerstein2BETA available on my site ( http://leaf.sourceforge.net/khadley/ ) If anyone would test this and let me know of any probs I will run a announce on the LRP list latter this week if it appears the image is ok (and also my apologies to Charles Steinkuehler, my help file for this image is basically a modified version of your Eigerstein2BETA help fileI severely lack in the area of writing instructions so I thought it best to use something that already works well) -Kenneth Hadley - Original Message - From: "Larry Platzek" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2001 1:23 AM Subject: Re: [Leaf-devel] Drivers & Images > Kenneth > I would love to try your image when you are ready for someone to try it. > Does PAP authentication work? My ISP wants to insist on PAP instead of > login/password. > > Larry Platzek [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > On Tue, 23 Jan 2001, Kenneth Hadley wrote: > > > Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 10:25:10 -0800 > > From: Kenneth Hadley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: [Leaf-devel] Drivers & Images > > > > > > - Original Message - > > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 10:49 AM > > Subject: Re: [Leaf-devel] Drivers & Images > > > > > > > On Tue, Jan 23, 2001 at 09:26:43AM -0800, Mike Noyes scribbled: > > > > Everyone, > > > > It looks like there is a need for pcmcia and wireless driver support. > > Has > > > > anyone started on this? > > > > > > Morgan Reed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> has started on PCMCIA > > > with some success. I'm planning to work with him on it just > > > as soon as I can get my grubby hands on a working laptop. > > > > > > Anybody have one they want to donate? ;) > > > > > > > Also, an updated ppp dial-on-demand image to replace Trevor Marshall's > > > > images is needed. I may try to do this. > > > > > > Go for it...it oughtn't be too hard -- hardest part would be > > > deciding which version to do it on. > > > > I have a PPPd v.2.3.11 based EigerStein2BETA...it just needs to be cleaned > > up and posted.whould this work? > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Mike Noyes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > http://leaf.sourceforge.net/ > > > -- > > > rick -- A mind is like a parachute... it only works when it's open. > > > > > > ICQ# 1590117 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (home) > > > Help with LRP: http://lrp.c0wz.com Home page: http://www.c0wz.com > > > > > > > -Kenneth Hadley ___ Leaf-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/leaf-devel
Re: [Leaf-devel] Drivers & Images
Nah, we need an idiot-to-engineer converter more. Something like the Star-On and Star-Off machines in Dr. Seuss' _The Sneetches_, only you put in marketing people. Just had someone tell me that his new startup is going to produce 50 Terabytes a month of multimedia traffic on the Internet. Yes folks, that really is 4,341.76 Mbps. -- Jack Coates Monkeynoodle: It's what's for dinner! On Wed, 24 Jan 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Tue, Jan 23, 2001 at 09:44:17PM -0500, George Metz scribbled: > > On Tue, 23 Jan 2001, Scott C. Best wrote: > > > > > Yes, snail mail details, please. Unless someone out > > > there has a matter-to-email-proton-converter they'd be willing > > > to donate? (worth a try...) > > > > I do! Converts to a tar'd and gzip'd or bzip2'd binary. Unfortunately, we > > haven't quite figured out how to get it into reverse, so it's kinda stuck > > as a useless e-mail attachment. Any takers? =) > > California, with all their power problems, could really use something > like that; additionally, I'd like to build a car that runs on garbage > (a la that Back To The Future sequel... ;). > > > -- > > George Metz > > Commercial Routing Engineer > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > ___ Leaf-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/leaf-devel
Re: [Leaf-devel] Drivers & Images
On Tue, Jan 23, 2001 at 09:44:17PM -0500, George Metz scribbled: > On Tue, 23 Jan 2001, Scott C. Best wrote: > > > Yes, snail mail details, please. Unless someone out > > there has a matter-to-email-proton-converter they'd be willing > > to donate? (worth a try...) > > I do! Converts to a tar'd and gzip'd or bzip2'd binary. Unfortunately, we > haven't quite figured out how to get it into reverse, so it's kinda stuck > as a useless e-mail attachment. Any takers? =) California, with all their power problems, could really use something like that; additionally, I'd like to build a car that runs on garbage (a la that Back To The Future sequel... ;). > -- > George Metz > Commercial Routing Engineer > [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- rick -- A mind is like a parachute... it only works when it's open. ICQ# 1590117 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (home) Help with LRP: http://lrp.c0wz.com Home page: http://www.c0wz.com ___ Leaf-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/leaf-devel
Re: [Leaf-devel] Drivers & Images
Kenneth I would love to try your image when you are ready for someone to try it. Does PAP authentication work? My ISP wants to insist on PAP instead of login/password. Larry Platzek [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Tue, 23 Jan 2001, Kenneth Hadley wrote: > Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 10:25:10 -0800 > From: Kenneth Hadley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [Leaf-devel] Drivers & Images > > > - Original Message - > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 10:49 AM > Subject: Re: [Leaf-devel] Drivers & Images > > > > On Tue, Jan 23, 2001 at 09:26:43AM -0800, Mike Noyes scribbled: > > > Everyone, > > > It looks like there is a need for pcmcia and wireless driver support. > Has > > > anyone started on this? > > > > Morgan Reed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> has started on PCMCIA > > with some success. I'm planning to work with him on it just > > as soon as I can get my grubby hands on a working laptop. > > > > Anybody have one they want to donate? ;) > > > > > Also, an updated ppp dial-on-demand image to replace Trevor Marshall's > > > images is needed. I may try to do this. > > > > Go for it...it oughtn't be too hard -- hardest part would be > > deciding which version to do it on. > > I have a PPPd v.2.3.11 based EigerStein2BETA...it just needs to be cleaned > up and posted.whould this work? > > > > > -- > > > Mike Noyes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > http://leaf.sourceforge.net/ > > -- > > rick -- A mind is like a parachute... it only works when it's open. > > > > ICQ# 1590117 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (home) > > Help with LRP: http://lrp.c0wz.com Home page: http://www.c0wz.com > > > > -Kenneth Hadley > > > ___ > Leaf-devel mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/leaf-devel > ___ Leaf-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/leaf-devel
Re: [Leaf-devel] Drivers & Images
On Tue, 23 Jan 2001, Scott C. Best wrote: > Yes, snail mail details, please. Unless someone out > there has a matter-to-email-proton-converter they'd be willing > to donate? (worth a try...) I do! Converts to a tar'd and gzip'd or bzip2'd binary. Unfortunately, we haven't quite figured out how to get it into reverse, so it's kinda stuck as a useless e-mail attachment. Any takers? =) -- George Metz Commercial Routing Engineer [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Leaf-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/leaf-devel
Re: [Leaf-devel] Drivers & Images
Rick: > > > Anybody have one they want to donate? ;) > > > > > > Akshally...I've a VNS586 PC-104 board from Adastra with > > one 10BT port and a dual PCMCIA adapter, all packaged in this > > terribly impressive clear-plastic box. I used it for a while > > when I was working on a VxWorks project, but you're welcome > > to use it for LEAF if interested. I could prolly even spare > > an extra 802.11 card to make sure we got that right. > > Just let me know! > > Who ever thought it would be as easy as posting to a list? I > was about to post it next to my resume link on lrp.c0wz.com.. ;) > > That would be great. Has it got any RAM, or does it take > standard cheap RAM anyway? Should I email you my snail mail > address? Trying to recall the numbers...I *think* it's an 8MB flash (it was a Java project after all ;) and 16M RAM. I've no idea what filesystem is written into the flash, nor am I sure if how to get a Linux kernal in there to begin with. Am actually interested in how you work that part. Yes, snail mail details, please. Unless someone out there has a matter-to-email-proton-converter they'd be willing to donate? (worth a try...) -Scott ___ Leaf-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/leaf-devel
Re: [Leaf-devel] Drivers & Images
At 02:25 PM 1/23/01 -0500, Rick Onanian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >On Tue, Jan 23, 2001 at 10:07:44AM -0800, Mike Noyes scribbled: > > >Morgan Reed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> has started on PCMCIA > > >with some success. I'm planning to work with him on it just > > >as soon as I can get my grubby hands on a working laptop. > > > > Rick, > > Please ask him to join us. I tried a couple of times with no > > success (he didn't reply). I either had the wrong address or he is > > filtering mail into the bit bucket from people he doesn't > > recognize. > >I just asked him via ICQ, he said he thought he already did, but >will post again about it. Rick, He is not a member currently. I think he is referring to the old archived linuxrouter SourceForge project. Project Member List http://sourceforge.net/project/memberlist.php?group_id=13751 -- Mike Noyes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://leaf.sourceforge.net/ ___ Leaf-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/leaf-devel
Re: [Leaf-devel] Drivers & Images
At 10:25 AM 1/23/01 -0800, "Kenneth Hadley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >- Original Message - >From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 10:49 AM >Subject: Re: [Leaf-devel] Drivers & Images > > > > On Tue, Jan 23, 2001 at 09:26:43AM -0800, Mike Noyes scribbled: > > > Everyone, > > > It looks like there is a need for pcmcia and wireless driver > > > support. Has anyone started on this? > > > > Morgan Reed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> has started on PCMCIA > > with some success. I'm planning to work with him on it just > > as soon as I can get my grubby hands on a working laptop. > > > > Anybody have one they want to donate? ;) > > > > > Also, an updated ppp dial-on-demand image to replace Trevor > > > Marshall's images is needed. I may try to do this. > > > > Go for it...it oughtn't be too hard -- hardest part would be > > deciding which version to do it on. > >I have a PPPd v.2.3.11 based EigerStein2BETA...it just needs to be cleaned >up and posted.whould this work? Kenneth, Yes, as long as it does dial-on-demand. I believe that's what people are looking for when they use Trevor's image. I'd like to point them to a newer image than that when they start asking configuration questions. Also IMO, Trevor's image is getting old, and becoming a security risk. -- Mike Noyes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://leaf.sourceforge.net/ ___ Leaf-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/leaf-devel
Re: [Leaf-devel] Drivers & Images
On Tue, Jan 23, 2001 at 10:23:10AM -0800, Scott C. Best scribbled: > Rick: > > Morgan Reed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> has started on PCMCIA > > with some success. I'm planning to work with him on it just > > as soon as I can get my grubby hands on a working laptop. > > > > Anybody have one they want to donate? ;) > > > Akshally...I've a VNS586 PC-104 board from Adastra with > one 10BT port and a dual PCMCIA adapter, all packaged in this > terribly impressive clear-plastic box. I used it for a while > when I was working on a VxWorks project, but you're welcome > to use it for LEAF if interested. I could prolly even spare > an extra 802.11 card to make sure we got that right. > Just let me know! Who ever thought it would be as easy as posting to a list? I was about to post it next to my resume link on lrp.c0wz.com.. ;) That would be great. Has it got any RAM, or does it take standard cheap RAM anyway? Should I email you my snail mail address? Thanks! > -Scott -- rick -- A mind is like a parachute... it only works when it's open. ICQ# 1590117 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (home) Help with LRP: http://lrp.c0wz.com Home page: http://www.c0wz.com ___ Leaf-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/leaf-devel
Re: [Leaf-devel] Drivers & Images
On Tue, Jan 23, 2001 at 10:07:44AM -0800, Mike Noyes scribbled: > >Morgan Reed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> has started on PCMCIA > >with some success. I'm planning to work with him on it just > >as soon as I can get my grubby hands on a working laptop. > > Rick, > Please ask him to join us. I tried a couple of times with no success (he > didn't reply). I either had the wrong address or he is filtering mail into > the bit bucket from people he doesn't recognize. I just asked him via ICQ, he said he thought he already did, but will post again about it. > -- > Mike Noyes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > http://leaf.sourceforge.net/ -- rick -- A mind is like a parachute... it only works when it's open. ICQ# 1590117 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (home) Help with LRP: http://lrp.c0wz.com Home page: http://www.c0wz.com ___ Leaf-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/leaf-devel
Re: [Leaf-devel] Drivers & Images
- Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 10:49 AM Subject: Re: [Leaf-devel] Drivers & Images > On Tue, Jan 23, 2001 at 09:26:43AM -0800, Mike Noyes scribbled: > > Everyone, > > It looks like there is a need for pcmcia and wireless driver support. Has > > anyone started on this? > > Morgan Reed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> has started on PCMCIA > with some success. I'm planning to work with him on it just > as soon as I can get my grubby hands on a working laptop. > > Anybody have one they want to donate? ;) > > > Also, an updated ppp dial-on-demand image to replace Trevor Marshall's > > images is needed. I may try to do this. > > Go for it...it oughtn't be too hard -- hardest part would be > deciding which version to do it on. I have a PPPd v.2.3.11 based EigerStein2BETA...it just needs to be cleaned up and posted.whould this work? > > -- > > Mike Noyes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > http://leaf.sourceforge.net/ > -- > rick -- A mind is like a parachute... it only works when it's open. > > ICQ# 1590117 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (home) > Help with LRP: http://lrp.c0wz.com Home page: http://www.c0wz.com > -Kenneth Hadley ___ Leaf-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/leaf-devel
Re: [Leaf-devel] Drivers & Images
At 01:49 PM 1/23/01 -0500, Rick Onanian<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >On Tue, Jan 23, 2001 at 09:26:43AM -0800, Mike Noyes scribbled: > > Everyone, > > It looks like there is a need for pcmcia and wireless driver > > support. Has anyone started on this? > >Morgan Reed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> has started on PCMCIA >with some success. I'm planning to work with him on it just >as soon as I can get my grubby hands on a working laptop. Rick, Please ask him to join us. I tried a couple of times with no success (he didn't reply). I either had the wrong address or he is filtering mail into the bit bucket from people he doesn't recognize. >Anybody have one they want to donate? ;) > > > Also, an updated ppp dial-on-demand image to replace Trevor > > Marshall's images is needed. I may try to do this. > >Go for it...it oughtn't be too hard -- hardest part would be >deciding which version to do it on. Yeah, and whether to use diald or pppd for dial-on-demand. Is there a recent diald.lrp package (v0.99.4)? http://diald.sourceforge.net/ -- Mike Noyes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://leaf.sourceforge.net/ ___ Leaf-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/leaf-devel
Re: [Leaf-devel] Drivers & Images
Rick: > > Everyone, > > It looks like there is a need for pcmcia and wireless driver support. > > Has anyone started on this? > > Morgan Reed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> has started on PCMCIA > with some success. I'm planning to work with him on it just > as soon as I can get my grubby hands on a working laptop. > > Anybody have one they want to donate? ;) Akshally...I've a VNS586 PC-104 board from Adastra with one 10BT port and a dual PCMCIA adapter, all packaged in this terribly impressive clear-plastic box. I used it for a while when I was working on a VxWorks project, but you're welcome to use it for LEAF if interested. I could prolly even spare an extra 802.11 card to make sure we got that right. Just let me know! -Scott ___ Leaf-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/leaf-devel
Re: [Leaf-devel] Drivers & Images
On Tue, Jan 23, 2001 at 09:26:43AM -0800, Mike Noyes scribbled: > Everyone, > It looks like there is a need for pcmcia and wireless driver support. Has > anyone started on this? Morgan Reed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> has started on PCMCIA with some success. I'm planning to work with him on it just as soon as I can get my grubby hands on a working laptop. Anybody have one they want to donate? ;) > Also, an updated ppp dial-on-demand image to replace Trevor Marshall's > images is needed. I may try to do this. Go for it...it oughtn't be too hard -- hardest part would be deciding which version to do it on. > -- > Mike Noyes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > http://leaf.sourceforge.net/ -- rick -- A mind is like a parachute... it only works when it's open. ICQ# 1590117 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (home) Help with LRP: http://lrp.c0wz.com Home page: http://www.c0wz.com ___ Leaf-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/leaf-devel
[Leaf-devel] Drivers & Images
Everyone, It looks like there is a need for pcmcia and wireless driver support. Has anyone started on this? Also, an updated ppp dial-on-demand image to replace Trevor Marshall's images is needed. I may try to do this. -- Mike Noyes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://leaf.sourceforge.net/ ___ Leaf-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/leaf-devel
