RE: [Leaf-devel] Oxygen Updates

2001-12-20 Thread Luis.F.Correia


Good point. It may be possible as cdrtools (mkisofs) compiles fine under 
cygwin. I haven't tried though. But I agree it will be harder for many 
end-users.

Ewald, 

mkisofs / cdrecord work fine in a pure Windows config. I use them to produce
almost all CD's here at work.

I can make them bootable, with any type of floppy, 1.44 or 2.88.

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RE: [Leaf-devel] Oxygen Updates

2001-12-20 Thread Angelacos, Nathan


You're seeing this error because the default configuration is linux -
which is for a floppy-based boot.  The most recent CDROM should use
cdrom as the default config.

Ah.  Thanks.

The default screen is the linux config screen.  F1 will make the
cdrom/largenet/firewall/etc. options appear, and F10 will make the Linux
option the current screen again.

When using CDROM, it still tries to mount /dev/fd0u1680, fails, and goes on.
Not a big problem, but you will see the read failure messages on the console
and in the syslog.

I'm very pleased with the way things are shaping up with the Oxygen
CDROMs.  The main problems with the current image are:

This is looking very nice, Dave.  You should be proud.  Thanks!

Regarding the largenet SegFault, this is probably a stupid question, but
could it have anything to do with trying to load 105 packages all at once?
Has anyone else loaded that many before?  


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RE: [Leaf-devel] Oxygen Updates

2001-12-20 Thread David Douthitt

On 12/20/01 at 8:34 AM, Angelacos, Nathan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 The default screen is the linux config screen.  F1 will
 make the cdrom/largenet/firewall/etc. options appear, and
 F10 will make the Linux option the current screen again.

That's right.

 When using CDROM, it still tries to mount /dev/fd0u1680,
 fails, and goes on. Not a big problem, but you will see
 the read failure messages on the console and in the syslog.

The configuration is looking for a configuration file and for packages
that supercede those on the CDROM; it tries very hard :)

I don't like the error messages, though...

 Regarding the largenet SegFault, this is probably a stupid
 question, but could it have anything to do with trying to
 load 105 packages all at once? Has anyone else loaded that
 many before?  

I strongly suspect it - but I can't prove it.  The loading is in a
section of code like this:

for ...
   if ...
  for ...
 installpkgfunc
  done
   fi
done

...and one of the for loops has all of the packages from the list in
it - and maybe the function has them as arguments...
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RE: [Leaf-devel] Oxygen Updates

2001-12-19 Thread Luis.F.Correia

Nathan, 

When booting from a CD, the only floppy formats supported are 1.44 and 2.88.

Check which format Oxygen-CD is using and correct your config file.

-Original Message-
From: Angelacos, Nathan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 9:33 PM
To: LEAF Development
Subject: RE: [Leaf-devel] Oxygen Updates


David Douthitt wrote:

 Also, the Oxygen Bootable CDROM has been updated, but the 'largenet'
configuration is still SegFaulting at the end.  Please help me find  out
why It's very puzzling, as there is plenty of RAMdisk space  and other
configurations work fine.

In case it is any help to anyone else, when I booted with the CD 
and just hit enter (default is linux), linuxrc ran until the section

  *** ALMOST ALL OTHER PARAMETERS WILL BE IGNORED! ***

  LINUXRC: couldn't mount /dev/fd0u1680 with fs msdos!
  LINUXRC: error: not configuration
  LINUXRC: stopping system...

and it stopped.  From an older post of Dave's I tried this at the 
initial boot prompt:

boot: linux conf=testcd.cfg
  and
boot: linux conf=cdrom.cfg

and LINUXRC goes through, complains about not finding /dev/fd0u1680 
several times, then loads the packages and runs.  I'm sure I'm abusing 
the boot prompt and should be entering other things as well, but 
this was the minimum I needed to get going.

I'm sure I missed something along the line, but the Dec 17 .iso is the first
one that's worked for me.

Looking forward to testing further.  

Dave, is the linux conf=largenet.cfg the way I'm supposed to 
test the largenet.cfg? 




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RE: [Leaf-devel] Oxygen Updates

2001-12-19 Thread Angelacos, Nathan

Luis.F.Correia wrote:

When booting from a CD, the only floppy formats supported are 1.44
and 2.88.
Check which format Oxygen-CD is using and correct your config file.

Luis, 

Thanks.   

Just as a clarification, the CD-image I'm using is (currently dated Dec 17)
and at:
http:leaf.sourceforge.net/pub/oxygen/development/oxygen.iso
I think anyone who simply downloads that image and burns a CD from the iso 
will have the same problems I did.   

But your suggestion is helpful in looking for what to modify before 
burning another CD.

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Re: [Leaf-devel] Oxygen Updates

2001-12-19 Thread Ewald Wasscher

Luis.F.Correia wrote:

Nathan, 

When booting from a CD, the only floppy formats supported are 1.44 and 2.88.

David, others, is there a reason for using syslinux instead of isolinux? 
I'd say it's easier to use isolinux and forget about floppy images on 
the CD.

Ewald Wasscher



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RE: [Leaf-devel] Oxygen Updates

2001-12-19 Thread Angelacos, Nathan

David, others, is there a reason for using syslinux instead of isolinux? 
I'd say it's easier to use isolinux and forget about floppy images on 
the CD.

FWIW, 

ISOLinux worked great on the initial load, but there were some problems with
LINUXRC.
If I recall correctly, it seemed to want to mount the cd drive, which it
couldn't do, and
then got lost.  I don't recall the specifics, as I tossed my CD in the hopes
that people
much smarter than me would figure it out. :-)

But my impression was that the Oxygen init script is expecting to be run
from a floppy or
floppy-emulated device.


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Re: [Leaf-devel] Oxygen Updates

2001-12-19 Thread Charles Steinkuehler

 David, others, is there a reason for using syslinux instead of isolinux?
 I'd say it's easier to use isolinux and forget about floppy images on
 the CD.

I don't know about David, but I've stuck with using a floppy disk image for
a couple of reasons:

1) It's generally easier for me to maintain...the boot-disk is a very simple
case of a standard distribution floppy.

2) It's easier (IMHO) for end-users to modify the floppy disk boot image if
they need to burn a CD than it is to modify the isolinux configuration and
make a bootable CD.  I'm not even sure you could make a bootable CD on
windows using isolinux and commonly available CD Burner software...

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Re: [Leaf-devel] Oxygen Updates

2001-12-19 Thread Ewald Wasscher

Charles Steinkuehler wrote:

David, others, is there a reason for using syslinux instead of isolinux?
I'd say it's easier to use isolinux and forget about floppy images on
the CD.


I don't know about David, but I've stuck with using a floppy disk image for
a couple of reasons:

1) It's generally easier for me to maintain...the boot-disk is a very simple
case of a standard distribution floppy.

Easier? I diagree, but forget it.



2) It's easier (IMHO) for end-users to modify the floppy disk boot image if
they need to burn a CD than it is to modify the isolinux configuration and
make a bootable CD.  I'm not even sure you could make a bootable CD on
windows using isolinux and commonly available CD Burner software...

Good point. It may be possible as cdrtools (mkisofs) compiles fine under 
cygwin. I haven't tried though. But I agree it will be harder for many 
end-users.

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Re: [Leaf-devel] Oxygen Updates

2001-12-19 Thread Charles Steinkuehler

 David, others, is there a reason for using syslinux instead of isolinux?
 I'd say it's easier to use isolinux and forget about floppy images on
 the CD.
snip
 2) It's easier (IMHO) for end-users to modify the floppy disk boot image
if
 they need to burn a CD than it is to modify the isolinux configuration
and
 make a bootable CD.  I'm not even sure you could make a bootable CD on
 windows using isolinux and commonly available CD Burner software...
 
 Good point. It may be possible as cdrtools (mkisofs) compiles fine under
 cygwin. I haven't tried though. But I agree it will be harder for many
 end-users.

Oh...I almost forgot the biggest reason of all:

3) I have to make a boot floppy anyway, for folks running older systems that
don't boot off a CD-ROM drive.

Charles Steinkuehler
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Re: [Leaf-devel] Oxygen Updates

2001-12-19 Thread KP Kirchdörfer

Am Mittwoch, 19. Dezember 2001 19:36 schrieb Ewald Wasscher:
 Luis.F.Correia wrote:
 Nathan,
 
 When booting from a CD, the only floppy formats supported are 1.44 and
  2.88.

 David, others, is there a reason for using syslinux instead of isolinux?
 I'd say it's easier to use isolinux and forget about floppy images on
 the CD.

isolinux don't work with all bios'es - where the bios'es are the culprit of 
course, but who cares? 

Some older IBM PC's are affected  - which, in my case, is really bad, since 
I'm able to get them for nothing and they'll make really good routers 
(Pentium class up to 192 mb RAM).

just my personal opinion
kp

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RE: [Leaf-devel] Oxygen Updates

2001-12-19 Thread David Douthitt

On 12/18/01 at 4:32 PM, Angelacos, Nathan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 In case it is any help to anyone else, when I booted with the CD 
 and just hit enter (default is linux), linuxrc ran until the section
 
   *** ALMOST ALL OTHER PARAMETERS WILL BE IGNORED! ***
 
   LINUXRC: couldn't mount /dev/fd0u1680 with fs msdos!
   LINUXRC: error: not configuration
   LINUXRC: stopping system...
 
 and it stopped.

You're seeing this error because the default configuration is linux -
which is for a floppy-based boot.  The most recent CDROM should use
cdrom as the default config.

In any case, press F10 to get a list of current configurations: turned
out I forgot to make the appropriate title page the default (sigh).

 From an older post of Dave's I tried this at the 
 initial boot prompt:
 
 boot: linux conf=testcd.cfg
   and
 boot: linux conf=cdrom.cfg
 
 and LINUXRC goes through, complains about not finding
 /dev/fd0u1680 several times, then loads the packages and
 runs.  I'm sure I'm abusing the boot prompt and should be
 entering other things as well, but this was the minimum I
 needed to get going.

cdrom should be the default; testcd is designed as a way of testing
the CDROM boot sequence with minimal or no loading from floppy.

All you need at the boot prompt is a CDROM configuration and that's
it.  The CDROM configurations are in the F10 screen and are: smallnet,
largenet, rescue, firewall, cdrom, and testcd.

 I'm sure I missed something along the line, but the Dec 17
 .iso is the first one that's worked for me.

I'm very pleased with the way things are shaping up with the Oxygen
CDROMs.  The main problems with the current image are:

* Incorrect default text screen - and perhaps wrong default
configuration

* largenet SegFaults...

 Dave, is the linux conf=largenet.cfg the way I'm
 supposed to test the largenet.cfg? 

No - at the prompt type:

largenet

...and hit enter.  There is also the flag verbose to make it talk a
lot, and the flag ramdisk_size= to increase the size of the RAM
disk.

Apparently, increasing the size of the RAM disk doesn't make a
difference.
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RE: [Leaf-devel] Oxygen Updates

2001-12-18 Thread Angelacos, Nathan

David Douthitt wrote:

 Also, the Oxygen Bootable CDROM has been updated, but the 'largenet'
 configuration is still SegFaulting at the end.  Please help me find
 out why It's very puzzling, as there is plenty of RAMdisk space
 and other configurations work fine.

In case it is any help to anyone else, when I booted with the CD 
and just hit enter (default is linux), linuxrc ran until the section

  *** ALMOST ALL OTHER PARAMETERS WILL BE IGNORED! ***

  LINUXRC: couldn't mount /dev/fd0u1680 with fs msdos!
  LINUXRC: error: not configuration
  LINUXRC: stopping system...

and it stopped.  From an older post of Dave's I tried this at the 
initial boot prompt:

boot: linux conf=testcd.cfg
  and
boot: linux conf=cdrom.cfg

and LINUXRC goes through, complains about not finding /dev/fd0u1680 
several times, then loads the packages and runs.  I'm sure I'm abusing 
the boot prompt and should be entering other things as well, but 
this was the minimum I needed to get going.

I'm sure I missed something along the line, but the Dec 17 .iso is the
first one that's worked for me.

Looking forward to testing further.  

Dave, is the linux conf=largenet.cfg the way I'm supposed to 
test the largenet.cfg? 




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