RE: [leaf-user] Bering and processor temperature

2003-03-10 Thread Luis.F.Correia
Hi!

AFAIK, a P200 needs both heatsink  fan.

Besides processor temperature, what did you change in your setup?

Are you running VPN on 1.1?
Any extra services, or was it a plain ole upgrade?

If nothing has really changed, then there is no real answer to your
problem...


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Has anyone noticed that their processor runs hotter under Bering 1.1?

I have a P200 motherboard loaded with NICs by my desk that I use for 
testing and the processor heatsink runs considerably hotter under Bering 
1.1 than under Bering 1.0.

It has no fan so my rough temperature gauge is that I could touch it 
comfortably for extended periods of time (a useful finger warmer after a 
winter motorbike ride!) under Bering 1.0 but it's too hot to do so under 
Bering 1.1.

Same configuration and NICs in both versions. Same low network traffic on 
both...

I've noticed that it runs hotter during boot under both distros but then 
cools down after the boot process is complete in Bering 1.1.

Just an idle inquiry really but I'd be interested to know if it does 
signify anything!

Lee


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[leaf-user] iptraf and ncurses on Bering 1.0/1.1

2003-03-10 Thread Adrian Wooster
Has anyone had success in using iptraf.lrp and libncurs.lrp on Bering?

When I've loaded as instructed, iptraf returns errors about opening terminal
linux which I assume means its having problems with ncurses. The recommended
ncurses package certainly appears to have loaded correctly.

I seem to remember ntop.lrp has a similar issue at the console, but works
okay from the web interface.

Can anyone help?

Adrian



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Re: [leaf-user] iptraf and ncurses on Bering 1.0/1.1

2003-03-10 Thread Richard Doyle
You might try the full ncurses library in the ncurses5.lrp package,
found at http://www.monkeynoodle.org/lrp/lrp/packages/libs

Works with Bering 1.1, and presumably earlier versions.

-Richard

On Mon, 2003-03-10 at 07:41, Adrian Wooster wrote:
 Has anyone had success in using iptraf.lrp and libncurs.lrp on Bering?
 
 When I've loaded as instructed, iptraf returns errors about opening terminal
 linux which I assume means its having problems with ncurses. The recommended
 ncurses package certainly appears to have loaded correctly.
 
 I seem to remember ntop.lrp has a similar issue at the console, but works
 okay from the web interface.
 
 Can anyone help?
 
 Adrian
 
 
 
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Re: [leaf-user] iptraf and ncurses on Bering 1.0/1.1

2003-03-10 Thread Brad Fritz

Adrian,

On Mon, 10 Mar 2003 15:41:35 GMT Adrian Wooster wrote:

 Has anyone had success in using iptraf.lrp and libncurs.lrp on Bering?
 
 When I've loaded as instructed, iptraf returns errors about opening terminal
 linux which I assume means its having problems with ncurses. The recommended
 ncurses package certainly appears to have loaded correctly.

Sounds like a terminfo problem.  You probably just need to grab
the linux terminfo file from a full distro.  On debian it's in

  /usr/share/terminfo/l/linux

You might find this thread in the leaf-user archives useful:

  http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg10896.html

and also the message:

  http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg10900.html


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RE: [leaf-user] Bering and processor temperature

2003-03-10 Thread Lee Kimber
At 10:46 AM 3/10/2003 +, Luis.F.Correia wrote:
Hi!

AFAIK, a P200 needs both heatsink  fan.

Besides processor temperature, what did you change in your setup?

Are you running VPN on 1.1?
Any extra services, or was it a plain ole upgrade?
If nothing has really changed, then there is no real answer to your
problem...
I didn't add anything, though I can see that the release has ulogd.lrp 
added to it. Ipsec is on it too but is not yet configured. Mmmm, could that 
be it?

There are no extra services.

I've started a second build of it and this is running much cooler so far. 
I'm bringing it to the same state as the original router step by step while 
checking the temperature between each step. Hopefully this will highlight 
where the temperature increase starts.

It seems to run a little warmer once it has ipsec and mawk on it and before 
ipsec is configured, though nothing like as hot as the first one.

I'll let you know if I find the answer!



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RE: [leaf-user] iptraf and ncurses on Bering 1.0/1.1

2003-03-10 Thread Heriberto Höhlke
Hello Adrian

Yes, I did it. I copied from a Red Hat 7.2 the /usr/share/terminfo/l/linux
file to a diskette, booted in Bering, created the directory
/usr/share/terminfo/l and copied the file linux into the directory. You can
include the line /usr/share/terminfo in /var/lib/lrpkg/etc.list and backup
the etc package.
If you want to run minicom, this file must be located in /etc/terminfo/l.

Regards
Heriberto


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 Has anyone had success in using iptraf.lrp and libncurs.lrp on Bering?

 When I've loaded as instructed, iptraf returns errors about
 opening terminal
 linux which I assume means its having problems with ncurses. The
 recommended
 ncurses package certainly appears to have loaded correctly.

 I seem to remember ntop.lrp has a similar issue at the console, but works
 okay from the web interface.

 Can anyone help?

 Adrian



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Re: [leaf-user] Bering and processor temperature

2003-03-10 Thread Brad Fritz

Lee,

On Mon, 10 Mar 2003 08:34:20 PST Lee Kimber wrote:

 At 10:46 AM 3/10/2003 +, Luis.F.Correia wrote:
 Hi!
 
 AFAIK, a P200 needs both heatsink  fan.
 
 Besides processor temperature, what did you change in your setup?
 
 Are you running VPN on 1.1?
 Any extra services, or was it a plain ole upgrade?
 
 If nothing has really changed, then there is no real answer to your
 problem...
 
 I didn't add anything, though I can see that the release has ulogd.lrp 
 added to it. Ipsec is on it too but is not yet configured. Mmmm, could that 
 be it?
 
 There are no extra services.
 
 I've started a second build of it and this is running much cooler so far. 
 I'm bringing it to the same state as the original router step by step while 
 checking the temperature between each step. Hopefully this will highlight 
 where the temperature increase starts.
 
 It seems to run a little warmer once it has ipsec and mawk on it and before 
 ipsec is configured, though nothing like as hot as the first one.
 
 I'll let you know if I find the answer!

How do the load averages[1] compare on the hot vs. cool setups?
If the load average is significantly higher on the hot configuration,
you could grab a copy of top.lrp[2] and see which processes are
responsible for the increased load average.  Running top will
itself increase load average (and likely cpu temp), so be sure to
account for that increase when measuring temp with top running.

It seems unlikely, but I suppose changes between the 2.4.18 (Bering
1.0) and 2.4.20 (Bering 1.1) kernels could also be responsible for
increased load on the CPU.

Good luck!

--Brad

[1] Use the uptime command or cat /proc/loadavg.
[2] There are versions at
http://leaf.sourceforge.net/devel/khadley/packages.html and
http://www.monkeynoodle.org/lrp/lrp/packages/ .  top may
require a package that provides libncurses, e.g. libncurs.lrp,
which in turn may require a copy of the terminfo data file for
your desired terminal.



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[leaf-user] Re: [leaf-devel] ATM bering

2003-03-10 Thread Jacques Nilo
Le Lundi 10 Mars 2003 21:19, Jose Luis Abuelo Sebio a écrit :
 Hi, Let's see if somebody can help me with this. I've
 a computer running with a bering distribution and I
 would like to work with an ATM card too.

  Do you know if I can use ATM in bering? How? Do I
 need any package or module? How can I configure it? Do
 you know any guide for that?

Check this chapter of the user's guide:
http://leaf.sourceforge.net/devel/jnilo/bupppoatm.html

Jacques


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[leaf-user] Winzip and .lrp

2003-03-10 Thread Heriberto Höhlke
Hello

I usually open .lrp files with Winzip81 in Windows 98, renaming them to
*.tgz, except initrd.lrp, that can't be opened. I would like to protect the
password file of etc.lrp from been cracked with Brute Force crackers like
John The Ripper.
Is there a way for backing up the .lrp files, so they cannot be opened (as
initrd.lrp), except from inside the Bering box, and of course knowing the
root password?

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[leaf-user] Anyone have the simple ppp how-to for bering/all firewalls?

2003-03-10 Thread Matt Russell
I remember using a very simplified ppp how-to when i last configured my
router, but have since lost the URL. it included everything needed for a
successful ppp connection, including mgetty and ppp how-to's. it did not
include anything about routing though.

anyone have this link?




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[leaf-user] IPsec with Bering 1.1 without MAWK.LRP and IPSEC509.LRP ?

2003-03-10 Thread Francois BERGERET
Hi all folks,

I am jumping into IPSec with my two feet.
I am using Bering 1.1.
I am surprised to see that our friend Jacques NILO has stored minus files for Bering 
1.1 than the previous 1.0.
I have trieved the IPSEC.LRP, but not IPSEC509.LRP and not MAWK.LRP in his current 
directories
http://leaf.sourceforge.net/devel/jnilo/bering/latest/packages/.
Are they always needed, or only the IPSEC.LRP is necessary ?
I want to check VPN with preshared secret as the first step, and pass to X509 after.

Could you, somebody, confirm me if I have missed something or if only file is now 
necessary ?

Best Regards,
Francois BERGERET,
France.



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Re: [leaf-user] IPsec with Bering 1.1 without MAWK.LRP and IPSEC509.LRP ?

2003-03-10 Thread Lynn Avants
On Monday 10 March 2003 03:07 pm, Francois BERGERET wrote:
 Hi all folks,

 I am jumping into IPSec with my two feet.
 I am using Bering 1.1.
 I am surprised to see that our friend Jacques NILO has stored minus files
 for Bering 1.1 than the previous 1.0. I have trieved the IPSEC.LRP, but not
 IPSEC509.LRP and not MAWK.LRP in his current directories
 http://leaf.sourceforge.net/devel/jnilo/bering/latest/packages/.
 Are they always needed, or only the IPSEC.LRP is necessary ?
 I want to check VPN with preshared secret as the first step, and pass to
 X509 after.

 Could you, somebody, confirm me if I have missed something or if only file
 is now necessary ?

You still need mawk.lrp to run any of the ipsec packages. 
You will need to use ipsec509 instead of ipsec to use x509 certs.
-- 
~Lynn Avants
Linux Embedded Appliance Firewall Developer
http://leaf.sourceforge.net
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Re: [leaf-user] Winzip and .lrp

2003-03-10 Thread Lynn Avants
On Monday 10 March 2003 02:51 pm, Heriberto Höhlke wrote:
 Hello

 I usually open .lrp files with Winzip81 in Windows 98, renaming them to
 *.tgz, except initrd.lrp, that can't be opened. I would like to protect the
 password file of etc.lrp from been cracked with Brute Force crackers like
 John The Ripper.
 Is there a way for backing up the .lrp files, so they cannot be opened (as
 initrd.lrp), except from inside the Bering box, and of course knowing the
 root password?

How would anyone be able to crack your password file without logging in
as 'root'? Really the only security concerns to the outside you would have
would be dependant on opening http/ftp/etc... services open to the internet
and running on the router itself. If this is a large concern of yours, I would
suggest moving these services off the router and into a DMZ.
-- 
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RE: [leaf-user] IPsec with Bering 1.1 without MAWK.LRP and IPSEC509.LRP ?

2003-03-10 Thread Francois BERGERET
Dear Lynn,

This what I was done with the previous Bering 1.0.
But, I have not seen them in the current latest subdirectory.
Can I use those of the previous 1.0 instead of not yet ready new release ?

Best Regards,
Francois BERGERET,
France.

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 IPSEC509.LRP ?


 On Monday 10 March 2003 03:07 pm, Francois BERGERET wrote:
  Hi all folks,
 
  I am jumping into IPSec with my two feet.
  I am using Bering 1.1.
  I am surprised to see that our friend Jacques NILO has stored minus files
  for Bering 1.1 than the previous 1.0. I have trieved the IPSEC.LRP, but not
  IPSEC509.LRP and not MAWK.LRP in his current directories
  http://leaf.sourceforge.net/devel/jnilo/bering/latest/packages/.
  Are they always needed, or only the IPSEC.LRP is necessary ?
  I want to check VPN with preshared secret as the first step, and pass to
  X509 after.
 
  Could you, somebody, confirm me if I have missed something or if only file
  is now necessary ?

 You still need mawk.lrp to run any of the ipsec packages.
 You will need to use ipsec509 instead of ipsec to use x509 certs.
 --
 ~Lynn Avants
 Linux Embedded Appliance Firewall Developer
 http://leaf.sourceforge.net
 http://www.guitarlynn.homelinux.org:81


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Re: [leaf-user] Winzip and .lrp

2003-03-10 Thread Ray Olszewski
I share Lynn's sense of puzzlement about just what you are trying to 
protect here. He is correct that the etc.lrp file on a LEAF router is not 
particularly vulnerable to remote theft, unless the thief already has root 
privileges on the LEAF router or the router is running a service with a 
serious security hole. I surmise that you are concerned about someone who 
has physical access to the router and can copy the file directly from the 
boot floppy (or other boot medium).

The sad reality is that it is almost impossible to secure any standard PC 
against an attack by somebody who has physical access to it. In the 
immediate example, far easier than cracking root's password on the floppy 
would be substituting a fresh /etc/shadow file in etc.lrp (or even 
supplying a completely fresh etc.lrp package).

In general, the best way to fight brute force password crackers is to 
pick hard-to-guess passwords ... good, unpatterned ones of the sort that 
all the references recommend.

At 03:39 PM 3/10/2003 -0600, Lynn Avants wrote:
On Monday 10 March 2003 02:51 pm, Heriberto Höhlke wrote:
 Hello

 I usually open .lrp files with Winzip81 in Windows 98, renaming them to
 *.tgz, except initrd.lrp, that can't be opened. I would like to protect the
 password file of etc.lrp from been cracked with Brute Force crackers like
 John The Ripper.
 Is there a way for backing up the .lrp files, so they cannot be opened (as
 initrd.lrp), except from inside the Bering box, and of course knowing the
 root password?
How would anyone be able to crack your password file without logging in
as 'root'? Really the only security concerns to the outside you would have
would be dependant on opening http/ftp/etc... services open to the internet
and running on the router itself. If this is a large concern of yours, I would
suggest moving these services off the router and into a DMZ.
--
~Lynn Avants
Linux Embedded Appliance Firewall Developer
http://leaf.sourceforge.net






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Re: [leaf-user] IPsec with Bering 1.1 without MAWK.LRP and IPSEC509.LRP ?

2003-03-10 Thread Jacques Nilo
On Monday 10 March 2003 22:07, Francois BERGERET wrote:
 Hi all folks,

 I am jumping into IPSec with my two feet.
 I am using Bering 1.1.
 I am surprised to see that our friend Jacques NILO has stored minus files
 for Bering 1.1 than the previous 1.0. I have trieved the IPSEC.LRP, but not
 IPSEC509.LRP and not MAWK.LRP in his current directories
 http://leaf.sourceforge.net/devel/jnilo/bering/latest/packages/.
 Are they always needed, or only the IPSEC.LRP is necessary ?
 I want to check VPN with preshared secret as the first step, and pass to
 X509 after.

 Could you, somebody, confirm me if I have missed something or if only file
 is now necessary ?

As stated in the Changelog, begining with Bering 1.1 there is now only one 
version of ipsec which includes all the patches x509, NAT-traversal ...
SInce there is now only a single package I named it ipsec.lrp
http://leaf.sourceforge.net/devel/jnilo/bichlog.html#AEN111

Jacques


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Re: [leaf-user] Winzip and .lrp

2003-03-10 Thread Samuel Abreu de Paula
And one note! initrd.lrp is not protected, in fact is not even a .tgz file!

If you wanna see it Content just mount in a linux box with -o loop: mkdir -p 
/mnt/initrd  mount /path/to/initrd.lrp /mnt/initrd -o loop

Samuel Abreu

On Mon, 10 Mar 2003 17:51:28 -0300
Heriberto Höhlke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hello
 
 I usually open .lrp files with Winzip81 in Windows 98, renaming them to
 *.tgz, except initrd.lrp, that can't be opened. I would like to protect the
 password file of etc.lrp from been cracked with Brute Force crackers like
 John The Ripper.
 Is there a way for backing up the .lrp files, so they cannot be opened (as
 initrd.lrp), except from inside the Bering box, and of course knowing the
 root password?
 
 Regards
 Heriberto


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Re: [leaf-user] Winzip and .lrp

2003-03-10 Thread Charles Steinkuehler
Heriberto Höhlke wrote:
Hello

I usually open .lrp files with Winzip81 in Windows 98, renaming them to
*.tgz, except initrd.lrp, that can't be opened. I would like to protect the
password file of etc.lrp from been cracked with Brute Force crackers like
John The Ripper.
Is there a way for backing up the .lrp files, so they cannot be opened (as
initrd.lrp), except from inside the Bering box, and of course knowing the
root password?
It is very difficult to protect a system against someone who has 
physical access to it.  Even the bigshots like Microsoft get this 
wrong (witness the XBox boot code).

The Catch-22 is in your question above rephrased:

How do you protect the password file from being read by anyone who 
doesn't have the password?

Well, if you're keeping data out of the hands of someone with physical 
access, the system itself doesn't have the password, so it can't access 
the password file, so it can't know what the password is...catch-22.

About the only thing I can think of that might satisfy your request is 
the encryption of etc.lrp, with the encorperation of an appropriate 
decrypting routine into the initial ramdisk startup script.

This would require you to be present at system boot to enter the 
password (so the packages could be decrypted and installed), but would 
prevent anyone from being able to get at your passwords quite as easily, 
but there are still lots of ways around this for someone with physical 
access to the machine, they're just harder than extracting a zip file.

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RE: [leaf-user] Winzip and .lrp

2003-03-10 Thread Heriberto Höhlke
Hello Lynn

I plan to install Bering in a site, where I have no control who has physical
access to the firewall.

Regards
Heriberto
 On Monday 10 March 2003 02:51 pm, Heriberto Höhlke wrote:
  Hello
 
  I usually open .lrp files with Winzip81 in Windows 98, renaming them to
  *.tgz, except initrd.lrp, that can't be opened. I would like to
 protect the
  password file of etc.lrp from been cracked with Brute Force
 crackers like
  John The Ripper.
  Is there a way for backing up the .lrp files, so they cannot be
 opened (as
  initrd.lrp), except from inside the Bering box, and of course
 knowing the
  root password?

 How would anyone be able to crack your password file without logging in
 as 'root'? Really the only security concerns to the outside you would have
 would be dependant on opening http/ftp/etc... services open to
 the internet
 and running on the router itself. If this is a large concern of
 yours, I would
 suggest moving these services off the router and into a DMZ.
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[leaf-user] debian question, /etc/network/interfaces

2003-03-10 Thread Peter Mueller
Hi all,

How do you force the duplex setting  speed on LRP?  It seems
/etc/network/interfaces is the key file, but the Debian man page
(http://www.fifi.org/cgi-bin/man2html/usr/share/man/man5/interfaces.5.gz#lbA
D) and LEAF user guide don't provide the answer.

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[leaf-user] WISP on soekris help

2003-03-10 Thread Dave Shpritz
I tried askig this on the WISP list, but got no response (maybe not many people on the 
list?).  Anyway, thanks for any help in advance.

Dave


Hey folks,
I'm having a large amount of trouble getting my soekris board as an access points.  
Well, it acts as an access point (I'm using a Prism 2.5 D-Link Air 650 PCMCIA card), 
that is I can connect to the ap as a client, I get a good signal, but I can't surf.  
ARG!  Any help would be great, thanks in advance.

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Re: [leaf-user] Bering and processor temperature

2003-03-10 Thread Lee Kimber

How do the load averages[1] compare on the hot vs. cool setups?
If the load average is significantly higher on the hot configuration,
you could grab a copy of top.lrp[2] and see which processes are
responsible for the increased load average.  Running top will
itself increase load average (and likely cpu temp), so be sure to
account for that increase when measuring temp with top running.
It seems unlikely, but I suppose changes between the 2.4.18 (Bering
1.0) and 2.4.20 (Bering 1.1) kernels could also be responsible for
increased load on the CPU.
Good luck!

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[1] Use the uptime command or cat /proc/loadavg.
[2] There are versions at
http://leaf.sourceforge.net/devel/khadley/packages.html and
http://www.monkeynoodle.org/lrp/lrp/packages/ .  top may
require a package that provides libncurses, e.g. libncurs.lrp,
which in turn may require a copy of the terminfo data file for
your desired terminal.
Great - I didn't know you could do that on a Bering box. I will do it and 
let you know.

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Re: [leaf-user] Anyone have the simple ppp how-to for bering/allfirewalls?

2003-03-10 Thread Jeff Newmiller
On Mon, 10 Mar 2003, Matt Russell wrote:

 I remember using a very simplified ppp how-to when i last configured my
 router, but have since lost the URL. it included everything needed for a
 successful ppp connection, including mgetty and ppp how-to's. it did not
 include anything about routing though.
 
 anyone have this link?

I can't think of any howtos easier than the Bering Installation Guide 
and Bering User's Guide:

http://leaf.sourceforge.net/devel/jnilo/binstall.html
http://leaf.sourceforge.net/devel/jnilo/busers.html

In particular, the latter guide discusses outbound serial connections in
section 2.

Regarding inbound connections, I think I have seen something describing
them, but cannot recall where right now.

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[leaf-user] How to set process run at startup?

2003-03-10 Thread Thitiporn Pornpirunrak
Dear all
 I would like to start one process at startup. Could i write some script
to run at startup like rc.local? anyone who know please tell me.

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Re: [leaf-user] How to set process run at startup?

2003-03-10 Thread Lynn Avants
On Monday 10 March 2003 09:12 pm, Thitiporn Pornpirunrak wrote:
 Dear all
  I would like to start one process at startup. Could i write some
 script to run at startup like rc.local? anyone who know please tell me.

It goes in /etc/init.d like Debian with the RCDLINKS line set for the
runlevel and load order.

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Re: [leaf-user] Winzip and .lrp

2003-03-10 Thread Lynn Avants
On Monday 10 March 2003 05:03 pm, Heriberto Höhlke wrote:
 Hello Lynn

 I plan to install Bering in a site, where I have no control who has
 physical access to the firewall.

Well, if you eliminate the possibilitiy of using a monitor or removing
whatever disk/physical media you are using, I don't imagine you'll have
any problems. A floppy or other disk type can usually be mounted inside
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Re: [leaf-user] Anyone have the simple ppp how-to for bering/all firewalls?

2003-03-10 Thread Lynn Avants
On Monday 10 March 2003 07:50 pm, Jeff Newmiller wrote:

 Regarding inbound connections, I think I have seen something describing
 them, but cannot recall where right now.

http://leaf.sourceforge.net/devel/thc/dox/pppserv.txt


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Re: [leaf-user] How to set process run at startup?

2003-03-10 Thread Jacques Nilo
Le Mardi 11 Mars 2003 04:22, Lynn Avants a écrit :
 On Monday 10 March 2003 09:12 pm, Thitiporn Pornpirunrak wrote:
  Dear all
   I would like to start one process at startup. Could i write some
  script to run at startup like rc.local? anyone who know please tell me.

 It goes in /etc/init.d like Debian with the RCDLINKS line set for the
 runlevel and load order.
In fact there is another, more traditional approach:
There is and /etc/rc.boot  directory in Bering. All the scripts you will put 
there will be executed at the end of the boot process by /etc/init.d/rcS:

snip
rcS:#   For compatibility, run the files in /etc/rc.boot too.
rcS:[ -d /etc/rc.boot ]  run-parts /etc/rc.boot
snip

Also do not forget to save etc.lrp once your script have been put into 
rc.boot. :-)

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[leaf-user] Bering/pppoe: ignoring mtu setting...

2003-03-10 Thread Thomas V. Fischer
Hey all,

I am trying to force a 1452 mtu setting on my pppoe connection but it refuse
to go to that number... It remains at 1492 what ever I change in the pppoe
conf files and etc-interface settings!

Any ideas?

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Re: [leaf-user] WISP on soekris help

2003-03-10 Thread Jacques Nilo
Le Mardi 11 Mars 2003 03:03, Dave Shpritz a écrit :
 I tried askig this on the WISP list, but got no response (maybe not many
 people on the list?).  Anyway, thanks for any help in advance.

 Dave


 Hey folks,
 I'm having a large amount of trouble getting my soekris board as an access
 points.  Well, it acts as an access point (I'm using a Prism 2.5 D-Link Air
 650 PCMCIA card), that is I can connect to the ap as a client, I get a good
 signal, but I can't surf.  ARG!  Any help would be great, thanks in
 advance.

Are your interfaces properly configured in Shorewall ?
What says:
ip addr show
and
cat /etc/shorewall/interfaces

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[leaf-user] Re: Development environment

2003-03-10 Thread Jacques Nilo
Le Mardi 11 Mars 2003 00:39, Ryan Lindeman a écrit :
 Hi,

 I'm trying to use Bering for work and I would like to create some packages
 for it.  I'm having problems creating a development environment, can you
 give me a few pointers as to what to do after I setup a debian/woody
 virtual machine?
To create Bering packages you need to setup a Debian/slink virtual machine. 
Debian/woody is only used for kernel development
Then you need to learn how to build a LEAF package. Refer to the LEAF 
Document manager. Section 13 Developer questions answered:
http://sourceforge.net/docman/?group_id=13751

Jacques
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[leaf-user] Re: [leaf-devel] Tunneling in bering

2003-03-10 Thread Simon Blake
ok. Using Bering to make a remote bridge. A very, very, mini howto.

You need a bering system, with bridging already working, and with the
tun.o kernel module loaded. Make sure /dev/net/tun exists, if it
doesn't, add

mkdir /dev/net
mknod /dev/net/tun c 10 200

to the end of /var/lib/lrpkg/root.dev.mk , and backup initrd.lrp.

(Jacques/Eric, would be nice to get that into Bering by default)

get the vtund executable (from http://vtun.sourceforge.net/ ) onto your
box.  Unfortunately, I don't have a package that'll do this (well, I do,
but it's compiled against glibc-2.2.5, so probably isn't much help to
most people).

make a bridge device in /etc/network/interfaces, add the real interfaces
you want to bridge, and the tap0 interface:

iface br0 inet static
address 192.168.1.0
masklen 32
bridge_ports eth0 tap0

note that you *don't* want an auto br0 line in there - this thing
won't work unless it's started after vtund has created tap0, so you
don't want the system bringing up the bridge at boot time.

create vtund.conf, you'll need something like:
--
options {
  port 5000;# Listen on this port.

  # Path to various programs
  ppp   /usr/sbin/brctl;
  ifconfig  /sbin/ip;
  route /sbin/ifup;
  firewall  /sbin/ifdown;
}

# Default session options 
default {
  compress no;  # Compression is off by default
  speed 0;  # By default maximum speed, NO shaping
  type  ether;  # Ethernet tunnel
  proto tcp;# UDP protocol
  stat  yes;# Log connection statistic 
  keepalive yes;# Keep connection alive
  multi yes;
  device tap0;  # Device tap0 
}

bridge {
  pass  dfg47df; # Password
  up {  
 route br0;
};
  down {
 firewall br0;
  };

--

You'll need a similar vtund.conf on either machine.  There are a few
things to note here.  The weird route/firewall thing is like a macro
expansion, what's really going on is an ifup br0 and ifdown br0.  I
couldn't get it to work reliable with UDP, but TCP works a charm,
obviously you can add crypto/compression options as you see fit (I tend
to run it over IPSEC tunnels, so I generally have all those options
disabled).

Start one machine as a server with

/usr/sbin/vtund -s

and the other as a client with

/usr/sbin/vtund -p bridge ip of server

Watch your kernel logs - if it's working, you'll get the usual bridge
STP messages happening, and 30 seconds later, you'll be bridging.  The
output of ps is useful, it tells you what the status of a tunnel is:

 1488 root   2284   S   vtund[c]: bridge ether tap0 

indicates a working tunnel.  brctl show will also give useful info:

bridge  8000.0040f466370a   yes eth0
tap0

And that should about do it.  Any questions/omissions, please sing out.

This writeup'd GPL'd, etc.  Jacques/Eric, if you wish to put this
somewhere in the Bering docs, please do so. 

Cheers
Si


On Tue, Mar 11, 2003 at 02:28:37AM +0100, Jose Luis Abuelo Sebio said:
  
  Hi guys:
  
   Here is the situation, I have two computers running
  with a bering distribution and working as bridges to
  set up  a virtual lan. They are fisically connected
  by
  a cable and they work perfectly.
  
   The question is that I want to know how to set them
  up if the computers working as bridges, and which
  connect the workstations of the vlan, were located
  in
  different places like Europe and America. I was told
  in one of this lists that I should use a tunnel and
  that there is a tool called vtun that I could use.
  
   The problem is that I don't know how to set up the
  computers to work as bridges and to create a tunnel
  between them at the same time. They already work as
  bridges but could some of you tell me how to do to
  create a tunnel between them? Should I use the
  vtun
  tool for the bering distribution or you think that
  there is something better?
  
Thank for your time, and I hope there is some of
  you
  that can help me with this. I will really apreciate
  it.
  If you do not know the answer to this but you have
  any
  documentation about it I will apreciate it if you
  can
  send it to me.
  
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Re: [leaf-user] Re: [leaf-devel] Tunneling in bering

2003-03-10 Thread Jacques Nilo
Le Mardi 11 Mars 2003 07:52, Simon Blake a écrit :
 ok. Using Bering to make a remote bridge. A very, very, mini howto.

 You need a bering system, with bridging already working, and with the
 tun.o kernel module loaded. Make sure /dev/net/tun exists, if it
 doesn't, add

 mkdir /dev/net
 mknod /dev/net/tun c 10 200

 to the end of /var/lib/lrpkg/root.dev.mk , and backup initrd.lrp.

 (Jacques/Eric, would be nice to get that into Bering by default)
Yes. Or could be added in the vtund.lrp package in the init.d/vtund script

 get the vtund executable (from http://vtun.sourceforge.net/ ) onto your
 box.  Unfortunately, I don't have a package that'll do this (well, I do,
 but it's compiled against glibc-2.2.5, so probably isn't much help to
 most people).
It's available for Bering here:
http://leaf.sourceforge.net/devel/jnilo/packages/vtund.lrp

Jacques
 make a bridge device in /etc/network/interfaces, add the real interfaces
 you want to bridge, and the tap0 interface:

 iface br0 inet static
   address 192.168.1.0
   masklen 32
   bridge_ports eth0 tap0

 note that you *don't* want an auto br0 line in there - this thing
 won't work unless it's started after vtund has created tap0, so you
 don't want the system bringing up the bridge at boot time.

 create vtund.conf, you'll need something like:


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[leaf-user] Tunneling in bering

2003-03-10 Thread Jose Luis Abuelo Sebio
 
 Hi guys:
 
  Here is the situation, I have two computers running
 with a bering distribution and working as bridges to
 set up  a virtual lan. They are fisically connected
 by
 a cable and they work perfectly.
 
  The question is that I want to know how to set them
 up if the computers working as bridges, and which
 connect the workstations of the vlan, were located
 in
 different places like Europe and America. I was told
 in one of this lists that I should use a tunnel and
 that there is a tool called vtun that I could use.
 
  The problem is that I don't know how to set up the
 computers to work as bridges and to create a tunnel
 between them at the same time. They already work as
 bridges but could some of you tell me how to do to
 create a tunnel between them? Should I use the
 vtun
 tool for the bering distribution or you think that
 there is something better?
 
   Thank for your time, and I hope there is some of
 you
 that can help me with this. I will really apreciate
 it.
 If you do not know the answer to this but you have
 any
 documentation about it I will apreciate it if you
 can
 send it to me.
 
 Luis
 
 P.S. If this is not the correct mailing-list, sorry,
 but can you remail me to the correct one, thanks
 


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[leaf-user] ATM bering

2003-03-10 Thread Jose Luis Abuelo Sebio
Hi, Let's see if somebody can help me with this. I've
a computer running with a bering distribution and I
would like to work with an ATM card too.

 Do you know if I can use ATM in bering? How? Do I
need any package or module? How can I configure it? Do
you know any guide for that?

 Thanks and I hope some of you can help me with this.

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