Re: [Leaf-user] dachstein cd 1.0.2: modules are unavailable
reading the comments in /etc/modules, it looks like cdrom:/lib/modules is supposed to be mounted on /lib/modules in the ramdisk. that's not happening. as a result, none of the modules i specify in /etc/modules are loading. can someone help me out here? with the /dev/cdrom improvements of 1.0.2, it seems like this sort of thing should be working out of the box rather than try to hack it to work. Exactly what does your /etc/modules file look like? All you should have to do is uncomment the appropritae NIC drivers...no other changes should be necessary. Are the masquerade helper modules loading? What is the output of lsmod? Charles Steinkuehler http://lrp.steinkuehler.net http://c0wz.steinkuehler.net (lrp.c0wz.com mirror) ___ Leaf-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/leaf-user
Re: [Leaf-user] dachstein cd 1.0.2: modules are unavailable
hi charles, i was under the (wrong) impression that cd:/lib/modules should aleady be mounted when the system boots. i didn't realize that all this is taken care of during the booting process. victor and greg pointed this out to me. the *other* problem was that /etc/modules didn't get backed up when i backed up etc.lrp. it took me awhile to figure this out. it gets backed up with modules.lrp. this was good old trial and error. right now my system boots correctly, and the nics are almost configured. when the system boots, i can configure them by hand. i just need to go through all options and start making the final changes and i think i'll have a working system. pete begin Charles Steinkuehler [EMAIL PROTECTED] reading the comments in /etc/modules, it looks like cdrom:/lib/modules is supposed to be mounted on /lib/modules in the ramdisk. that's not happening. as a result, none of the modules i specify in /etc/modules are loading. can someone help me out here? with the /dev/cdrom improvements of 1.0.2, it seems like this sort of thing should be working out of the box rather than try to hack it to work. Exactly what does your /etc/modules file look like? All you should have to do is uncomment the appropritae NIC drivers...no other changes should be necessary. Are the masquerade helper modules loading? What is the output of lsmod? Charles Steinkuehler http://lrp.steinkuehler.net http://c0wz.steinkuehler.net (lrp.c0wz.com mirror) -- PGP Fingerprint: B9F1 6CF3 47C4 7CD8 D33E 70A9 A3B9 1945 67EA 951D PGP Public Key: finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Leaf-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/leaf-user
Re: [Leaf-user] dachstein cd 1.0.2: modules are unavailable
is there a mirror of this? it appears to be dead right now. what's the title of the document? maybe i can google for copy somewhere... pete begin Greg Morgan [EMAIL PROTECTED] One more idea is to use some of the other documentation. Take a look at http://nw-hoosier.dyndns.org/rlohman/linux/firewall/index.html. Don't forget to wonder around leaf.sourceforge.net. -- PGP Fingerprint: B9F1 6CF3 47C4 7CD8 D33E 70A9 A3B9 1945 67EA 951D PGP Public Key: finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Leaf-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/leaf-user
[Leaf-user] dachstein cd 1.0.2: modules are unavailable
complete LRP newbie here. i'm trying to set up dachstein cd 1.0.2. reading the comments in /etc/modules, it looks like cdrom:/lib/modules is supposed to be mounted on /lib/modules in the ramdisk. that's not happening. as a result, none of the modules i specify in /etc/modules are loading. can someone help me out here? with the /dev/cdrom improvements of 1.0.2, it seems like this sort of thing should be working out of the box rather than try to hack it to work. pete -- PGP Fingerprint: B9F1 6CF3 47C4 7CD8 D33E 70A9 A3B9 1945 67EA 951D PGP Public Key: finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Leaf-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/leaf-user
Re: [Leaf-user] dachstein cd 1.0.2: modules are unavailable
Peter Jay Salzman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: complete LRP newbie here. i'm trying to set up dachstein cd 1.0.2. reading the comments in /etc/modules, it looks like cdrom:/lib/modules is supposed to be mounted on /lib/modules in the ramdisk. Dachstein takes care of this for you so there must be some other problem. 1.) Uncomment the Ethernet modules you need. Many of the newer PCI base ethernet modules require a pci-scan module. Uncomment the supporting modules too! 2.) Next hurdle is the new way of thinking with a LEAF distribution. The whole OS is all contained in memory. So even though you saved your changes, they will not survive a reboot. But on the flip side that's great because if there is a problem a person just reboots. What this means to you is that you many not be using the backup menu to save the changes you just made to the modules file. Please use lrcfg--you boot into it as root--and select the b option for Back-up. Use d modules and t modules to set the destination and type of backup respectfully. d should be floppy and t should be partial. You will use this technique later when you master the modules and start configuring other packages. 3.) Make sure you have some sort of configuration option on your floppy. I can boot from a cdrom so I only have a lrpkg.cfg file containing the single line with out quotes of etc,local,modules,ramlog,dhclient,dnscache,dhcpd,weblet,lncurses,vim. This is a good newbie configuration. 4.) reboot 5.) See if you have ethernet connectivity. If so continue on configuring the rest of the modules. 6.) Report back and let us know if you have success. 7.) Most of all give yourself patience. It is worth the wait to get your feet wet with a leaf distro. LOL we were all newbies once except people like Ray O., Charles S., and Dave Douthitt. They just know. that's not happening. as a result, none of the modules i specify in /etc/modules are loading. can someone help me out here? with the /dev/cdrom improvements of 1.0.2, it seems like this sort of thing should be working out of the box rather than try to hack it to work. pete ___ Leaf-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/leaf-user
Re: [Leaf-user] dachstein cd 1.0.2: modules are unavailable
Peter Jay Salzman wrote: complete LRP newbie here. i'm trying to set up dachstein cd 1.0.2. reading the comments in /etc/modules, it looks like cdrom:/lib/modules is supposed to be mounted on /lib/modules in the ramdisk. that's not happening. as a result, none of the modules i specify in /etc/modules are loading. can someone help me out here? with the /dev/cdrom improvements of 1.0.2, it seems like this sort of thing should be working out of the box rather than try to hack it to work. pete Modules can load from the cdrom on dachstein. When I do an # ls /lib/modules it is empty because the modules were loaded into memory from the cd. to test which modules are loaded use lsmod hanroute: -root- # lsmod Module PagesUsed by ip_masq_vdolive 1180 0 (unused) ip_masq_user3708 0 (unused) ip_masq_raudio 2980 0 ip_masq_portfw 2416 2 ip_masq_mfw 3196 0 ip_masq_h3236280 0 (unused) ip_masq_ftp 3576 0 ip_masq_autofw 2476 0 (unused) tulip 32424 2 pci-scan2300 0 [tulip] isofs 17692 0 ide-cd 22672 0 cdrom 26712 0 [ide-cd] What kind of problem are you having loading modules? ___ Leaf-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/leaf-user
Re: [Leaf-user] dachstein cd 1.0.2: modules are unavailable
hi victor and greg, begin Greg Morgan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peter Jay Salzman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: reading the comments in /etc/modules, it looks like cdrom:/lib/modules is supposed to be mounted on /lib/modules in the ramdisk. Dachstein takes care of this for you so there must be some other problem. ok, so /lib/modules *should* be empty? that's the first thing that's gone right today. i've had 3 floppies in a row fail on me. i was getting ready to make a trip out to frys to buy a new drive when my girlfriend pulled out a brand new floppy and it worked. i swear floppies were more reliable a few years ago. 1.) Uncomment the Ethernet modules you need. Many of the newer PCI base ethernet modules require a pci-scan module. Uncomment the supporting modules too! ok, truth be told, i didn't configure /etc/modules because i was thinking that /lib/modules being empty was a show stopper. i'll go back and start configuring modules right now. one question -- i grok the concept of the filesystem going away unless it's backed up to floppy. what i don't grok so much is the concept of partial backups. the readme file on the cd is confusing. what i'd LIKE to think is that anything i modify will be packaged up in its own etc.lrp file on the floppy and untarred over the /etc generated by the cd version of etc.lrp. however, the one thing i did manage to gather from the readme file is that it's not quite this simple. can you tell me a little bit about how partial backups work? (good stuff snipped) ok, i'll go back and follow the instructions. wish me luck! 7.) Most of all give yourself patience. It is worth the wait to get your feet wet with a leaf distro. thanks for saying this. the gumption factor was pretty low this morning! :) pete -- PGP Fingerprint: B9F1 6CF3 47C4 7CD8 D33E 70A9 A3B9 1945 67EA 951D PGP Public Key: finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Leaf-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/leaf-user
Re: [Leaf-user] dachstein cd 1.0.2: modules are unavailable
Peter Jay Salzman wrote: snip one question -- i grok the concept of the filesystem going away unless it's backed up to floppy. what i don't grok so much is the concept of partial backups. the readme file on the cd is confusing. what i'd LIKE to think is that anything i modify will be packaged up in its own etc.lrp file on the floppy and untarred over the /etc generated by the cd version of etc.lrp. however, the one thing i did manage to gather from the readme file is that it's not quite this simple. can you tell me a little bit about how partial backups work? snip For the etc.lrp I choose full backup. Partial backups have just been introduced with the CD release. I have not hacked a package but this is my conceptial idea of what Charles has just done. Before a full backup of the package was required. With the current version the boot scripts have been modified to read the binary stuff and the config seperately. A partial backup puts all the config stuff on a floppy. It overrides the config stuff that is on the cdrom package. The cdrom package is loaded then your config file is loaded. You will notice this one day as you see linuxrc do its magic. If you are still uncomfortable with this idea of partials, start using fullback ups and at a later point when things work migrate to partials. The whole point of either option is to save room on small foot print disks like floppies. LEAF distros are studies in micro engineering. I am excited about the CDrom versions because I loose lots of 168K formatted to Arizona dust bunnies. The normal 144k format seems to be be more dust resistant. Some time in 2002 I want to burn a CD with all my changes. My config doesn't change that much. (LOL the wife and kids hate it when I play.) The floppy would be there for just a place holder so that dachstein can boot. Finally, I take my floppy and copy it all to a directory on the windows/samba server. It is after all an msdos formatted disk. If you lose a floppy just make a new one off the windows directory and you're back in business. I hope this helps, Greg Morgan ___ Leaf-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/leaf-user
Re: [Leaf-user] dachstein cd 1.0.2: modules are unavailable
One more idea is to use some of the other documentation. Take a look at http://nw-hoosier.dyndns.org/rlohman/linux/firewall/index.html. Don't forget to wonder around leaf.sourceforge.net. ___ Leaf-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/leaf-user
Re: [Leaf-user] dachstein cd 1.0.2: modules are unavailable
This is an excellent How-to --- one I plan to base my upcoming docs off of --- IF it ever comes back on line. I have tried accessing it for the last few days, and it comes up dead Dan Quoting Greg Morgan [EMAIL PROTECTED]: One more idea is to use some of the other documentation. Take a look at http://nw-hoosier.dyndns.org/rlohman/linux/firewall/index.html. Don't forget to wonder around leaf.sourceforge.net. ___ Leaf-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/leaf-user ___ Leaf-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/leaf-user
