George,
I'm kind of curios. Why did you feel the need to cross-post to lists not
related to LEAF? Odd, one in San Diego and the other in New York? How
incredibly odd. Did you want encompass the United States, some LEAF
developers are not US citizens you know, you might want to cross post to
lists in France, Germany, Brazil and Japan too.
If you had leaf related questions, why did not ask them on the publicly
available LEAF-USER list and not copy email lists that the VAST majority of
people on said lists are not subscribed too? Instead of asking specific
questions you start off with a general leading question and then launch into
an attack.
I name thee TROLL! I thought about not sending this message, but you just
didn't appear to do your research and quite frankly there is a hell of a lot
of FREE support on the leaf-user lists. I note that
http://www.mail-archive.com/cgi-bin/htsearch?method=andformat=shortconfig=l
eaf-user_lists_sourceforge_netrestrict=exclude=words=George+Georgalis
shows that a lot of folks spent a LOT of FREE time helping you out.
Never the less, these messages are in the archive so I will endeavor to
answer some of your attacks ^H^H^H^H^H^H concerns and ignore others at my
whim. And then, quite possibly, black hole any further messages from you
because I can and life is not fair. :) I will probably also supply
frivolous information to amuse myself because it's late and I am occasionally
a random sentence generator. At least that may provide amusement to some.
Leaf-project is several different distro's with similar and differing
objectives. Your inability to instantly gain all knowledge of it without
spending some time doing YOUR homework is tiresome. You assume that because
you think you know Linux that you should be able to instantly understand 1 of
5 specialized distributions in the LEAF project and the compromises necessary
to fit them on a floppy disk? I wish I had your knowledge and learning
skills. No, wait... No I don't.
Note: I am speaking for myself because you irked me and it's late where I
am.
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From: George Georgalis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, July 12, 2002 10:56 PM
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Subject: [Leaf-devel] is Bering GNU?
I'm beginning to have my doubts. Where is
/usr/src/linux/.config? Where are the other compile time
options for other binaries? Just how was
Bering_1.0-rc3_img_bering_1680.bin made?
sp doubt away and use another project. OR ask politely and you directed
to the information. Volunteer projects have a problem - NO PAID SUPPORT! If
you perceive a lack, ask/gather the information, do a write up and submit it
for inclusion in the FAQ's/Documentation. I will endeavor to direct you to
some of the documentation you obviously missed on your first or second
perusal of our site. I think the site is up to 2-3GB.
After spending a good part of a week, and _all_ day Friday
getting up a Bering router before a deadline -- subsequently
missing the first day of a conference http://h2k2.org -- I
looked back at what was the problem. I discovered I was
hacking around a product (the Bering image) much like the
manner of before I used Linux. I have this disk image, that I
mount to find, compressed archives, containing finely
tailored scripts and a handful of binaries. Together they
make up the GNU Bering. (And maybe other leaf versions as well.)
sp Nothing personal but I am reminded of an old IT saying. You lack of
planning does not necessarily constitute an emergency on my part ESPECIALLY
when you're NOT paying for my time! Why would anyone but you care that you
were late to something? Did you get fired? Why would LEAF be relevant to
your not planning sufficient testing and implementation time in a project?
Configuration is through lrcfg. Not the same as a full distro of Linux.
sp My first experience was with the Eigerstein distro and I had it set up
in 25 minutes. At the time, I didn't even know what Linux was.
sp Leaf, being specialized, oddly enough, has to make compromises on how
some things work.
sp Perhaps the Bering user doc was to much for you
http://leaf.sourceforge.net/devel/jnilo/busers.html
sp Perhaps the Bering Installation guide was insufficient
http://leaf.sourceforge.net/devel/jnilo/binstall.html
I have hunted all over http://leaf-project.org and
http://leaf.sourceforge.net/ for the source, or even a file
that says version xx.yy.zz of busybox was compiled with the
following patch and compile time options. Or maybe a tgz of
the /usr/local/src/bering where the image was made? Nothing.
I find myself writing scripts to extract and compress lrp
files. Surely everyone doesn't gzip -c9 what they made by tar
cf after mounting and extracting their first floppy image?
Is this the intended way to indoctrinate new developers to
the old school?
