Re: [LU] What a useless shower
Your lucky Dave just had to sit thru the most humiliating sporting experience of my life at the SCG. J h Christ. Best regards,Scott. On 5 Jan 2014, at 14:52, Dave Sowden davesow...@hotmail.com wrote: I arrived back in Singapore just in time to decide sleep was more important listening to the game on LUTV. So at least that decision was right. Thinking of reasons to be cheerful, do not our most recent performances strengthen BMD's hand in extorting funds for new players out of whoever are new owners are? Happy New Year to all Dave S Singapore Whites Sent from my iPad On 5 Jan, 2014, at 4:52 am, Eric B barl...@gmail.com wrote: I was going to get foxtel so I could watch some LUFC every so often. I shouldnt? oh well... theres always dart and other sports I could watch. dam it. theres NO winning at any level anymore. its reached rock bottom and it can only go up! On Sun, Jan 5, 2014 at 3:47 AM, Steve Parish steve.par...@btinternet.comwrote: They're a good judge. I've NEVER walked away from a ground or televised game before, but have today! -Original Message- From: leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of Richard Walker Sent: 04 January 2014 4:43 PM To: Richard Walker; Nicholas Armit; Andy Pyzer Cc: LEEDSLIST Subject: Re: [LU] What a useless shower Leeds fans singing we;re shit and we're sick of it ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org John 'Grampa' Sykes Rest In Peace old lad 28th Oct 1938 - 12 Nov 2013 MARCHING ON TOGETHER ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org John 'Grampa' Sykes Rest In Peace old lad 28th Oct 1938 - 12 Nov 2013 MARCHING ON TOGETHER ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org John 'Grampa' Sykes Rest In Peace old lad 28th Oct 1938 - 12 Nov 2013 MARCHING ON TOGETHER ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org John 'Grampa' Sykes Rest In Peace old lad 28th Oct 1938 - 12 Nov 2013 MARCHING ON TOGETHER
Re: [LU] What a useless shower
I've stopped caring, both about LUFC and professional sports in general - it's liberating! Can look at the results with mild interest and not have my weekend spoiled :-) Sent from Samsung Mobile Original message From: Nigel Sykes ni...@sykesonline.com Date: 04/01/2014 17:07 (GMT+00:00) To: Leeds List leedslist@gn.apc.org Subject: Re: [LU] What a useless shower I am SO sick of sport. Every single team that I follow has done nothing but lose, lose and lose again. And this bunch, being my longest addiction, are the most disappointing bunch of the lot. I hate the bastards, because I can't stop caring. Nigel (the Dublin one) ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org John 'Grampa' Sykes Rest In Peace old lad 28th Oct 1938 - 12 Nov 2013 MARCHING ON TOGETHER ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org John 'Grampa' Sykes Rest In Peace old lad 28th Oct 1938 - 12 Nov 2013 MARCHING ON TOGETHER
[LU] I went to Rochdale
So I went to Rochdale yesterday…first the good things: - the drive over from our place is lovely, particularly the bit between Haworth and Hebden Bridge - the pies at Rochdale are cracking – only one option, meat potato, but hey when it is this good who needs choice - the DJ at the ground treated us to The Doors, Stone Roses, The Who, Happy Mondays (and The Smiths – I know some of you like that stuff) - Rochdale played some very attractive football that was great to watch - I’d have their numbers 11, 12 (Lund) and 40 (Henderson) in our first eleven straight away - Paddy Kenny kept us in the game… …and now everything else… There are so many problems apparent at the moment, but this is still more or less the team that was winning 4 or 5 out 6 only a month ago – so what has changed. In terms of man power, we’ve got Byram back (which is a plus), Pugh is in for Warnock and the fella we had from Forest (Tyson?) went and got injured – I think that he had a part in getting Ross on this roll, he was mobile, fast, and linked well. Other than that, it’s pretty much as was. There must be a confidence thing that has happened. Outside of Paddy, the only two Leeds players that gave it a real go were Byram and McCormack (although both became increasingly marginal as the game went on – probably just frustration on their part). At least they tried to move us forward. Yesterday’s defence of Pearce, Zak, and Wootton (I had to struggle to remember who Wootton was)…looked like they’d never met. Lees can feel hard done to being dropped for Wootton. But like Forest did, Rochdale, passed the ball quickly and accurately on the ground, into feet or into the space beyond the defence and had us turning all match. We had no answer to it and it was woeful to watch. Pearce is a heart on the sleeve kind of defender, which works pretty well most of the time, but if you treat everything as if you just have to go at it like a bull in a china shop, then those with a bit of brains will side-step you, and just generally run rings round you…they did – yesterday our left side was ripped apart time after time after time – Pearce and Pugh between them totally passed out of the game by lively, fast interplay and movement into space. Zak and Wootton – rarely seen such a level of misunderstanding or lack of communication since I left the Wrenthorpe U-11s The midfield is a huge problem – 5 guys in there and still Rochdale’s midfield had acres of space…the number 12 and 40…plus occasionally the 4 (Cavannagh)…ran it from the first minute. Byram on a sort of inside right detail ahead of Peltier, was the threat and twice they chopped him down in full flight – both professional, both cynical and both rightly booked. So what did we do? Stopped using Byram…nuts. I lost count of the number of times in the first half that Sam took a ball, laid it back 10 yards to Peltier or Wootton and spun and set off down the line…only to have to brake, double back, because Peltier, Wootton and Austin had got themselves into a little passing triangle just inside our half…6 passes later one of them hoofs it down the line – where it should have gone first time to Sam – and the ball is lost. Peltier and Pugh aren’t even playing the same game as wing backs – Peltier is a right back, playing 10 metres ahead of where a right back plays and terrified of going further upfield…Pugh is playing left midfield and not tracking back. Austin was dreadful yesterday – plain and simple. Murphy is odd, when we got him I thought we were getting a Hoddle type…long passes, conducting the game etc…we don’t appear to have got that yet, but what we have got is someone tracking back between the centre-halfs making crunching goal saving tackles (2 vs Forest and at least 2 yesterday). ..which at this moment in time is needed. Up front – Smith and Ross – simply not working – they are miles apart, do not play off each other – 3 or 4 times yesterday, Smith headed it to Ross…who headed it back…and Smith tried to head it back for a third time…moving nowhere…no understanding between them. Smith is immobile and lumbering, his one “strength” is getting onto crosses from the wing…but we’re not getting anyone to the by-line. So what is the point? Ross needs someone to play off, pure and simple. The Leeds crowd – there were good numbers of us – booed the team off at half time; sang things like, “the crowd turned up, where’s the team”, “we’ve worked all week for this…”, “what the fuck is going on”, “we’re shit and we’re sick of it”…and got pretty ugly at the end. That link on you-tube captures it pretty well. I don’t know what use several thousand people barracking players during a game is to those players. And I worry whether in this day and age this is just going to bring about some knee jerk reaction from the board…I mean are we really any worse off or better off, now than it is probable we would have been if we’d kept Grayson
Re: [LU] What a useless shower
How?? Don't give a fuck about premier league champions league etc And cricket. I cancelled sky sports and haven't missed it. I actually quite like going to non league games now. No ties, no pressure just enjoying football and atmos. But can't give up on Leeds. With age and experience I can accept the disappointment better but can't stop caring and worrying Sent from my iPhone On 5 Jan 2014, at 09:50, gcwhite2001 gcwhite2...@yahoo.com wrote: I've stopped caring, both about LUFC and professional sports in general - it's liberating! Can look at the results with mild interest and not have my weekend spoiled :-) Sent from Samsung Mobile Original message From: Nigel Sykes ni...@sykesonline.com Date: 04/01/2014 17:07 (GMT+00:00) To: Leeds List leedslist@gn.apc.org Subject: Re: [LU] What a useless shower I am SO sick of sport. Every single team that I follow has done nothing but lose, lose and lose again. And this bunch, being my longest addiction, are the most disappointing bunch of the lot. I hate the bastards, because I can't stop caring. Nigel (the Dublin one) ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org John 'Grampa' Sykes Rest In Peace old lad 28th Oct 1938 - 12 Nov 2013 MARCHING ON TOGETHER ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org John 'Grampa' Sykes Rest In Peace old lad 28th Oct 1938 - 12 Nov 2013 MARCHING ON TOGETHER ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org John 'Grampa' Sykes Rest In Peace old lad 28th Oct 1938 - 12 Nov 2013 MARCHING ON TOGETHER
[LU] Rochdale debacle
I decided to come out of my self imposed 'retirement' from away games and join my mates for this one - only 25 mins on the train, a few good pubs, a comfortable away win on the cards - what could go wrong !!! The 2 minutes at the end of the whistle when McDermott brought his players out to acknowledge the crowd was up there with my worst moments of being a Leeds fan - it was very reminiscent of the reaction to Wilko at the end of the Villa League cup final (1995 ??). It really was that vitriolic, this was not just the normal boos and odd shout, this was years and years of pent up frustration and bile aimed at a group of players and manager who 'are not fit to wear the shirt' - as we had been singing a few minutes before 'we're shit and we're sick of it' This was the moment when all the post Bates optimism and goodwill towards the manager and the owners disintegrated, possibly never to return. Individual players had come in for criticism from the odd fan during the game, more so than usual, with Austin, Smith, Wooton, Murphy, and Pugh being the main recipients of the variation you're shit X , fuck off X, you're not fit to play for us etc etc. McDermott and his tactics or percieved lack of them were also brought into question - we even sang 'Brian can we have a sub' early in the second half. McDermott was visibly shocked at the end and this seemed to stay with him in the post match interview I have just seen with the ITV highlights These highlights were a fair reflection of what went on, although in my report before watching the highlights (there is a misnomer from our point of view) I was going to say that we had one shot on target all game and that brought the comment from behind me 'nice back pass Austin' after our captain had scuffed a 25 yarder straight to the keeper. I had forgotten the 2 headers from Smith that were cleared off the line, the only other near miss was the shot from McCormack that just curled wide. So in 90+ minutes against a mid table 4th Division side (albeit one playing above themselves) we managed 2 headers on target but easily dealt with, a scuffed long range shot, and a shot that went wide ! Not much to cheer about there. At the other end they had a lot of chances, a few shots went just wide, 2 good chances were spurned,Kenny pulled off a couple of good saves, and then the 2 goals - first a long deep cross was well met by their forward despite there being at least 2 mustard (I refuse to call it gold) shirts next to him. This came in injury time of the first half when we were all hoping that we could go in 0 0 having escaped a beating and could regroup for the second half. The second was when the winger was given time and space and picked out a cross to the edge of the box where the forward waited in acres of space and picked out a sublime side footed volley into the net - a class goal and one he will never ever repeat. So what went wrong ? Pre game the various pubs were full of Leeds fans and were buzzing, except the Old Roebuck which was full of a group of old Rochdale fans who started singing some very odd songs - so both sets of fans were clearly up for it and there was an air of quiet optimism among the Leeds fans We expected there to be changes and were looking forward to seeing Ariyibi getting a start and maybe Poleon too to add some much needed pace, We wondered if Varney and Tonge would get a recall and we wondered if Cairns would be any good in nets. We got to the ground just seconds before kick off and were amazed to see Kenny there, even more so when he let Marius take the first goal kick - how bad must Cairns be if he could not be trusted yesterday, and if he is that bad why do we not have another keeper by now. Then looking round the rest of the team it was pretty much business as usual - Wooton on for Lees - a good move I thought, Lees is so poor on the ball at times it is painful and I have liked the look of Wooton. How wrong was I on this occasion ? Wooton had as poor a performance as anyone ever, he was shocking. The other change was Byram for Mowatt. Byram especially first half was a shining light - he looked back to his real self and within half and hour both the full back and the right sided centre half had been booked for cynical fouls on him, chopping him down. At least they will have one man sent off we thought but instead Byram was moved inside in the second half and lost most of his effectiveness. We never got going, nothing worked, we got pulled out of position, and passes went astray and whenever anything good did happen it went wrong. Smith won most of his aerial battles but the ball never fell to a mustard shirt - Ross and the midfielders need to get on the same wavelength as him (or he them) and the game was summed up when Murphy got the ball and went past his man and had time to look up and pick his pass - he could have pulled it back to the waiting and screaming Ross or he could put a
Re: [LU] I went to Rochdale
Great balanced, sensible email Nick, thanks. (Better than most of the knee-jerk reaction bollox I've read of late!) ;-) I didn't go yesterday and although I'm disappointed we're out the cup, my glass is still half full. As a club (not a team!) we're still heading in the right direction - let's see what Jan brings. Keep the faith!!! McDermott IN!! Ted H ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org John 'Grampa' Sykes Rest In Peace old lad 28th Oct 1938 - 12 Nov 2013 MARCHING ON TOGETHER
[LU] Fwd: I went to Rochdale
Whoops meant to be online Sent from my iPhone Begin forwarded message: From: Ian Murray ianjamesmur...@hotmail.com Date: 5 January 2014 19:34:34 AWST To: n...@6haroldplace.co.uk n...@6haroldplace.co.uk Subject: Re: [LU] I went to Rochdale Great report Nick, cheers. Loved the reference to Wrenthorpe U11s though when I played for them in defence my understanding with my partner was almost telepathic! I agree with everything you say about the manager situation too - we have to stick with BMD and should have stuck with Grayson. Sent from my iPhone On 5 Jan 2014, at 18:59, n...@6haroldplace.co.uk n...@6haroldplace.co.uk wrote: So I went to Rochdale yesterday…first the good things: - the drive over from our place is lovely, particularly the bit between Haworth and Hebden Bridge - the pies at Rochdale are cracking – only one option, meat potato, but hey when it is this good who needs choice - the DJ at the ground treated us to The Doors, Stone Roses, The Who, Happy Mondays (and The Smiths – I know some of you like that stuff) - Rochdale played some very attractive football that was great to watch - I’d have their numbers 11, 12 (Lund) and 40 (Henderson) in our first eleven straight away - Paddy Kenny kept us in the game… …and now everything else… There are so many problems apparent at the moment, but this is still more or less the team that was winning 4 or 5 out 6 only a month ago – so what has changed. In terms of man power, we’ve got Byram back (which is a plus), Pugh is in for Warnock and the fella we had from Forest (Tyson?) went and got injured – I think that he had a part in getting Ross on this roll, he was mobile, fast, and linked well. Other than that, it’s pretty much as was. There must be a confidence thing that has happened. Outside of Paddy, the only two Leeds players that gave it a real go were Byram and McCormack (although both became increasingly marginal as the game went on – probably just frustration on their part). At least they tried to move us forward. Yesterday’s defence of Pearce, Zak, and Wootton (I had to struggle to remember who Wootton was)…looked like they’d never met. Lees can feel hard done to being dropped for Wootton. But like Forest did, Rochdale, passed the ball quickly and accurately on the ground, into feet or into the space beyond the defence and had us turning all match. We had no answer to it and it was woeful to watch. Pearce is a heart on the sleeve kind of defender, which works pretty well most of the time, but if you treat everything as if you just have to go at it like a bull in a china shop, then those with a bit of brains will side-step you, and just generally run rings round you…they did – yesterday our left side was ripped apart time after time after time – Pearce and Pugh between them totally passed out of the game by lively, fast interplay and movement into space. Zak and Wootton – rarely seen such a level of misunderstanding or lack of communication since I left the Wrenthorpe U-11s The midfield is a huge problem – 5 guys in there and still Rochdale’s midfield had acres of space…the number 12 and 40…plus occasionally the 4 (Cavannagh)…ran it from the first minute. Byram on a sort of inside right detail ahead of Peltier, was the threat and twice they chopped him down in full flight – both professional, both cynical and both rightly booked. So what did we do? Stopped using Byram…nuts. I lost count of the number of times in the first half that Sam took a ball, laid it back 10 yards to Peltier or Wootton and spun and set off down the line…only to have to brake, double back, because Peltier, Wootton and Austin had got themselves into a little passing triangle just inside our half…6 passes later one of them hoofs it down the line – where it should have gone first time to Sam – and the ball is lost. Peltier and Pugh aren’t even playing the same game as wing backs – Peltier is a right back, playing 10 metres ahead of where a right back plays and terrified of going further upfield…Pugh is playing left midfield and not tracking back. Austin was dreadful yesterday – plain and simple. Murphy is odd, when we got him I thought we were getting a Hoddle type…long passes, conducting the game etc…we don’t appear to have got that yet, but what we have got is someone tracking back between the centre-halfs making crunching goal saving tackles (2 vs Forest and at least 2 yesterday). ..which at this moment in time is needed. Up front – Smith and Ross – simply not working – they are miles apart, do not play off each other – 3 or 4 times yesterday, Smith headed it to Ross…who headed it back…and Smith tried to head it back for a third time…moving nowhere…no understanding between them. Smith is immobile and lumbering, his one “strength” is
Re: [LU] I went to Rochdale
GREAT report!! Definitely half the squad are the literal definition of journeymen: Pugh, Brown, Norris, Varney, Drury, Tonge, Warnock, EHD, Hunt - all of these are over thirty. Although I still like Green and Pearce. BMcD in his desperation with this lot is going through all the tactics - yesterday sounded terrible - but to sack him having inherited all of the above bar Hunt after just EIGHT months would be sheer lunacy. We're just gonna have to suck it up until the contracts of the above expire (this summer for most of them). BMW --- Original Message --- From: n...@6haroldplace.co.uk Sent: 5 January 2014 11:59 To: leedslist@gn.apc.org Subject: [LU] I went to Rochdale So I went to Rochdale yesterday…first the good things: - the drive over from our place is lovely, particularly the bit between Haworth and Hebden Bridge - the pies at Rochdale are cracking – only one option, meat potato, but hey when it is this good who needs choice - the DJ at the ground treated us to The Doors, Stone Roses, The Who, Happy Mondays (and The Smiths – I know some of you like that stuff) - Rochdale played some very attractive football that was great to watch - I’d have their numbers 11, 12 (Lund) and 40 (Henderson) in our first eleven straight away - Paddy Kenny kept us in the game… …and now everything else… There are so many problems apparent at the moment, but this is still more or less the team that was winning 4 or 5 out 6 only a month ago – so what has changed. In terms of man power, we’ve got Byram back (which is a plus), Pugh is in for Warnock and the fella we had from Forest (Tyson?) went and got injured – I think that he had a part in getting Ross on this roll, he was mobile, fast, and linked well. Other than that, it’s pretty much as was. There must be a confidence thing that has happened. Outside of Paddy, the only two Leeds players that gave it a real go were Byram and McCormack (although both became increasingly marginal as the game went on – probably just frustration on their part). At least they tried to move us forward. Yesterday’s defence of Pearce, Zak, and Wootton (I had to struggle to remember who Wootton was)…looked like they’d never met. Lees can feel hard done to being dropped for Wootton. But like Forest did, Rochdale, passed the ball quickly and accurately on the ground, into feet or into the space beyond the defence and had us turning all match. We had no answer to it and it was woeful to watch. Pearce is a heart on the sleeve kind of defender, which works pretty well most of the time, but if you treat everything as if you just have to go at it like a bull in a china shop, then those with a bit of brains will side-step you, and just generally run rings round you…they did – yesterday our left side was ripped apart time after time after time – Pearce and Pugh between them totally passed out of the game by lively, fast interplay and movement into space. Zak and Wootton – rarely seen such a level of misunderstanding or lack of communication since I left the Wrenthorpe U-11s The midfield is a huge problem – 5 guys in there and still Rochdale’s midfield had acres of space…the number 12 and 40…plus occasionally the 4 (Cavannagh)…ran it from the first minute. Byram on a sort of inside right detail ahead of Peltier, was the threat and twice they chopped him down in full flight – both professional, both cynical and both rightly booked. So what did we do? Stopped using Byram…nuts. I lost count of the number of times in the first half that Sam took a ball, laid it back 10 yards to Peltier or Wootton and spun and set off down the line…only to have to brake, double back, because Peltier, Wootton and Austin had got themselves into a little passing triangle just inside our half…6 passes later one of them hoofs it down the line – where it should have gone first time to Sam – and the ball is lost. Peltier and Pugh aren’t even playing the same game as wing backs – Peltier is a right back, playing 10 metres ahead of where a right back plays and terrified of going further upfield…Pugh is playing left midfield and not tracking back. Austin was dreadful yesterday – plain and simple. Murphy is odd, when we got him I thought we were getting a Hoddle type…long passes, conducting the game etc…we don’t appear to have got that yet, but what we have got is someone tracking back between the centre-halfs making crunching goal saving tackles (2 vs Forest and at least 2 yesterday). ..which at this moment in time is needed. Up front – Smith and Ross – simply not working – they are miles apart, do not play off each other – 3 or 4 times yesterday, Smith headed it to Ross…who headed it back…and Smith tried to head it back for a third time…moving nowhere…no understanding between them. Smith is immobile and lumbering, his one “strength” is getting onto crosses from the wing…but we’re not getting anyone to the by-line. So what is the point? Ross needs someone
[LU] McDermott
I am definitely nowhere near approaching let alone climbing on the McDermott out bandwagon. However, I must admit I am starting to harbour a few doubts. I was at the Blackburn game, and there was one aspect of his management which was embarrassingly amateurish. It was quite obvious that Mowatt, in stretching to reach the shot which he hit against the bar, had got himself a cramp. He played on for another 20 mins, not moving quite right, going down in obvious pain a couple of times, but hanging in there. I have no problem with that...I think he is our most creative player, and at 1-2 in the last quarter we certainly needed even an 80% Mowatt. However, what got me was when he finally went down and, after lengthy treatment, clearly had to go off. He got to his feet and limped over to the benchand it was only at that moment that Brown started putting on his shirt and shinpads! Surely someone on the bench should have had the nous to have got a sub ready and even warming up from the moment the problem became clear in a situation where we're chasing the game? On a positive note..I do think that McD has taken the correct decision to basically throw the kids in and see if they sink or float...and if they float, let's hope that they learn and improve fast. We have a nucleus of a good half a team who are all 21 or underLees, Mowatt, Byram, Smith, Murphy. Even in a terribly flat performance like the B/burn game, there were a couple of flashes of superb interplay between Mowatt Byram. I do wish they would get Mowatt to lose a few pounds though. ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org John 'Grampa' Sykes Rest In Peace old lad 28th Oct 1938 - 12 Nov 2013 MARCHING ON TOGETHER
[LU] FA Cup info - any stattos out there ?
For some reason I told a number of people recently that we are the ONLY team to have lost in every round of the FA Cup proper I know Hereford beat us in the first round in 2008 then Histon in 2nd round the following year Rochdale in 3rd round yesterday we have lost any number of times in 4th, 5th and 6th rounds and of course have lost in the semi final to scum (77 among others) and have lost 2 finals (Scousers and Sunderland) so it looks as if we have lost in every round I cannot think of anyone else who has done this - lets face it not many FA cup winners have spent time in the 3rd division or lower so there will not be many teams who have lost in the first 2 rounds - but maybe someone like Villa, Wolves, Pompey or Cardiff have both won the FA Cup and had dreadful times in the league dropping through the Divisions I have tried to put the question into google etc in various forms but cannot find an answer - anyone out there know if we are the only team to have done it? (not that it is something to be proud of) Of course the 'opposite' is also true - we have won in every round too - has anyone else managed this ? Dave ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org John 'Grampa' Sykes Rest In Peace old lad 28th Oct 1938 - 12 Nov 2013 MARCHING ON TOGETHER
Re: [LU] McDermott
Oh dear I agree word for word. Dr Michael Benjamin, Community Psychiatrist --- myRay: On-line Self-Help CBT http://www.myRay.com http://www.myRay.org -- Mental Health: http//www.MyDoctorExplains.com Auditing || Quality Control http://www.MyDoctorExplains.com/alamo/ Blog: http://www.DrMichaelBenjamin.com On 5 January 2014 14:34, Robert Heath rhe...@asd.edu.qa wrote: I am definitely nowhere near approaching let alone climbing on the McDermott out bandwagon. However, I must admit I am starting to harbour a few doubts. I was at the Blackburn game, and there was one aspect of his management which was embarrassingly amateurish. It was quite obvious that Mowatt, in stretching to reach the shot which he hit against the bar, had got himself a cramp. He played on for another 20 mins, not moving quite right, going down in obvious pain a couple of times, but hanging in there. I have no problem with that...I think he is our most creative player, and at 1-2 in the last quarter we certainly needed even an 80% Mowatt. However, what got me was when he finally went down and, after lengthy treatment, clearly had to go off. He got to his feet and limped over to the benchand it was only at that moment that Brown started putting on his shirt and shinpads! Surely someone on the bench should have had the nous to have got a sub ready and even warming up from the moment the problem became clear in a situation where we're chasing the game? On a positive note..I do think that McD has taken the correct decision to basically throw the kids in and see if they sink or float...and if they float, let's hope that they learn and improve fast. We have a nucleus of a good half a team who are all 21 or underLees, Mowatt, Byram, Smith, Murphy. Even in a terribly flat performance like the B/burn game, there were a couple of flashes of superb interplay between Mowatt Byram. I do wish they would get Mowatt to lose a few pounds though. ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org John 'Grampa' Sykes Rest In Peace old lad 28th Oct 1938 - 12 Nov 2013 MARCHING ON TOGETHER ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org John 'Grampa' Sykes Rest In Peace old lad 28th Oct 1938 - 12 Nov 2013 MARCHING ON TOGETHER
Re: [LU] FA Cup info - any stattos out there ?
I'll ask someone at Opta. -- On 5 Jan 2014, at 12:40, nat...@sky.com nat...@sky.com wrote: For some reason I told a number of people recently that we are the ONLY team to have lost in every round of the FA Cup proper I know Hereford beat us in the first round in 2008 then Histon in 2nd round the following year Rochdale in 3rd round yesterday we have lost any number of times in 4th, 5th and 6th rounds and of course have lost in the semi final to scum (77 among others) and have lost 2 finals (Scousers and Sunderland) so it looks as if we have lost in every round I cannot think of anyone else who has done this - lets face it not many FA cup winners have spent time in the 3rd division or lower so there will not be many teams who have lost in the first 2 rounds - but maybe someone like Villa, Wolves, Pompey or Cardiff have both won the FA Cup and had dreadful times in the league dropping through the Divisions I have tried to put the question into google etc in various forms but cannot find an answer - anyone out there know if we are the only team to have done it? (not that it is something to be proud of) Of course the 'opposite' is also true - we have won in every round too - has anyone else managed this ? Dave ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org John 'Grampa' Sykes Rest In Peace old lad 28th Oct 1938 - 12 Nov 2013 MARCHING ON TOGETHER ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org John 'Grampa' Sykes Rest In Peace old lad 28th Oct 1938 - 12 Nov 2013 MARCHING ON TOGETHER
Re: [LU] FA Cup info - any stattos out there ?
According to someone on twitter: @RyanKeaney: @jimmoran Nope. At least 38 teams have lost in every round (Round 1 to Final). Leeds are one of them. -- On 5 Jan 2014, at 12:40, nat...@sky.com nat...@sky.com wrote: For some reason I told a number of people recently that we are the ONLY team to have lost in every round of the FA Cup proper I know Hereford beat us in the first round in 2008 then Histon in 2nd round the following year Rochdale in 3rd round yesterday we have lost any number of times in 4th, 5th and 6th rounds and of course have lost in the semi final to scum (77 among others) and have lost 2 finals (Scousers and Sunderland) so it looks as if we have lost in every round I cannot think of anyone else who has done this - lets face it not many FA cup winners have spent time in the 3rd division or lower so there will not be many teams who have lost in the first 2 rounds - but maybe someone like Villa, Wolves, Pompey or Cardiff have both won the FA Cup and had dreadful times in the league dropping through the Divisions I have tried to put the question into google etc in various forms but cannot find an answer - anyone out there know if we are the only team to have done it? (not that it is something to be proud of) Of course the 'opposite' is also true - we have won in every round too - has anyone else managed this ? Dave ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org John 'Grampa' Sykes Rest In Peace old lad 28th Oct 1938 - 12 Nov 2013 MARCHING ON TOGETHER ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org John 'Grampa' Sykes Rest In Peace old lad 28th Oct 1938 - 12 Nov 2013 MARCHING ON TOGETHER
Re: [LU] FA Cup info - any stattos out there ?
Send it in to the guardian knowledge team too. Sent from my iPhone On 5 Jan 2014, at 12:53, Jim Moran j...@jimmoran.co.uk wrote: I'll ask someone at Opta. -- On 5 Jan 2014, at 12:40, nat...@sky.com nat...@sky.com wrote: For some reason I told a number of people recently that we are the ONLY team to have lost in every round of the FA Cup proper I know Hereford beat us in the first round in 2008 then Histon in 2nd round the following year Rochdale in 3rd round yesterday we have lost any number of times in 4th, 5th and 6th rounds and of course have lost in the semi final to scum (77 among others) and have lost 2 finals (Scousers and Sunderland) so it looks as if we have lost in every round I cannot think of anyone else who has done this - lets face it not many FA cup winners have spent time in the 3rd division or lower so there will not be many teams who have lost in the first 2 rounds - but maybe someone like Villa, Wolves, Pompey or Cardiff have both won the FA Cup and had dreadful times in the league dropping through the Divisions I have tried to put the question into google etc in various forms but cannot find an answer - anyone out there know if we are the only team to have done it? (not that it is something to be proud of) Of course the 'opposite' is also true - we have won in every round too - has anyone else managed this ? Dave ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org John 'Grampa' Sykes Rest In Peace old lad 28th Oct 1938 - 12 Nov 2013 MARCHING ON TOGETHER ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org John 'Grampa' Sykes Rest In Peace old lad 28th Oct 1938 - 12 Nov 2013 MARCHING ON TOGETHER ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org John 'Grampa' Sykes Rest In Peace old lad 28th Oct 1938 - 12 Nov 2013 MARCHING ON TOGETHER
Re: [LU] What a useless shower
I have been in the US for 18 years and still don't give a f*ck about US football, basketball and baseball (ice hockey's alright but that may be because of the 7 years I lived in Switzerland). But still scream at the tv when Leeds play like yesterday. From: Matt Anderson m...@leeds-united.net To: gcwhite2001 gcwhite2...@yahoo.com Cc: Leeds List leedslist@gn.apc.org Sent: Sunday, January 5, 2014 6:04 AM Subject: Re: [LU] What a useless shower How?? Don't give a fuck about premier league champions league etc And cricket. I cancelled sky sports and haven't missed it. I actually quite like going to non league games now. No ties, no pressure just enjoying football and atmos. But can't give up on Leeds. With age and experience I can accept the disappointment better but can't stop caring and worrying Sent from my iPhone On 5 Jan 2014, at 09:50, gcwhite2001 gcwhite2...@yahoo.com wrote: I've stopped caring, both about LUFC and professional sports in general - it's liberating! Can look at the results with mild interest and not have my weekend spoiled :-) Sent from Samsung Mobile Original message From: Nigel Sykes ni...@sykesonline.com Date: 04/01/2014 17:07 (GMT+00:00) To: Leeds List leedslist@gn.apc.org Subject: Re: [LU] What a useless shower I am SO sick of sport. Every single team that I follow has done nothing but lose, lose and lose again. And this bunch, being my longest addiction, are the most disappointing bunch of the lot. I hate the bastards, because I can't stop caring. Nigel (the Dublin one) ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org John 'Grampa' Sykes Rest In Peace old lad 28th Oct 1938 - 12 Nov 2013 MARCHING ON TOGETHER ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org John 'Grampa' Sykes Rest In Peace old lad 28th Oct 1938 - 12 Nov 2013 MARCHING ON TOGETHER ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org John 'Grampa' Sykes Rest In Peace old lad 28th Oct 1938 - 12 Nov 2013 MARCHING ON TOGETHER ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org John 'Grampa' Sykes Rest In Peace old lad 28th Oct 1938 - 12 Nov 2013 MARCHING ON TOGETHER
Re: [LU] I went to Rochdale
You're quite right about the DJ, I can honestly say that in all my years of watching football I haven't enjoyed the pre-match as much as that! My transfer targets during the window would definitely include the Rochdale DJ. Then of course the match started and the day went seriously downhill. A Rochdale fan has taken exception to the comment I put in the match report on my own site that Rochdale found it easy to cope with our tactic of lumping it up to Smith, because that is the sort of football they must face every week. He claims that most teams in League 2 play better football than that. In other words, we were even worse than League 2 standard! Tim W. From: n...@6haroldplace.co.uk n...@6haroldplace.co.uk To: leedslist@gn.apc.org leedslist@gn.apc.org Sent: Sunday, 5 January 2014, 10:58 Subject: [LU] I went to Rochdale So I went to Rochdale yesterday…first the good things: - the drive over from our place is lovely, particularly the bit between Haworth and Hebden Bridge - the pies at Rochdale are cracking – only one option, meat potato, but hey when it is this good who needs choice - the DJ at the ground treated us to The Doors, Stone Roses, The Who, Happy Mondays (and The Smiths – I know some of you like that stuff) - Rochdale played some very attractive football that was great to watch - I’d have their numbers 11, 12 (Lund) and 40 (Henderson) in our first eleven straight away - Paddy Kenny kept us in the game… …and now everything else… There are so many problems apparent at the moment, but this is still more or less the team that was winning 4 or 5 out 6 only a month ago – so what has changed. In terms of man power, we’ve got Byram back (which is a plus), Pugh is in for Warnock and the fella we had from Forest (Tyson?) went and got injured – I think that he had a part in getting Ross on this roll, he was mobile, fast, and linked well. Other than that, it’s pretty much as was. There must be a confidence thing that has happened. Outside of Paddy, the only two Leeds players that gave it a real go were Byram and McCormack (although both became increasingly marginal as the game went on – probably just frustration on their part). At least they tried to move us forward. Yesterday’s defence of Pearce, Zak, and Wootton (I had to struggle to remember who Wootton was)…looked like they’d never met. Lees can feel hard done to being dropped for Wootton. But like Forest did, Rochdale, passed the ball quickly and accurately on the ground, into feet or into the space beyond the defence and had us turning all match. We had no answer to it and it was woeful to watch. Pearce is a heart on the sleeve kind of defender, which works pretty well most of the time, but if you treat everything as if you just have to go at it like a bull in a china shop, then those with a bit of brains will side-step you, and just generally run rings round you…they did – yesterday our left side was ripped apart time after time after time – Pearce and Pugh between them totally passed out of the game by lively, fast interplay and movement into space. Zak and Wootton – rarely seen such a level of misunderstanding or lack of communication since I left the Wrenthorpe U-11s The midfield is a huge problem – 5 guys in there and still Rochdale’s midfield had acres of space…the number 12 and 40…plus occasionally the 4 (Cavannagh)…ran it from the first minute. Byram on a sort of inside right detail ahead of Peltier, was the threat and twice they chopped him down in full flight – both professional, both cynical and both rightly booked. So what did we do? Stopped using Byram…nuts. I lost count of the number of times in the first half that Sam took a ball, laid it back 10 yards to Peltier or Wootton and spun and set off down the line…only to have to brake, double back, because Peltier, Wootton and Austin had got themselves into a little passing triangle just inside our half…6 passes later one of them hoofs it down the line – where it should have gone first time to Sam – and the ball is lost. Peltier and Pugh aren’t even playing the same game as wing backs – Peltier is a right back, playing 10 metres ahead of where a right back plays and terrified of going further upfield…Pugh is playing left midfield and not tracking back. Austin was dreadful yesterday – plain and simple. Murphy is odd, when we got him I thought we were getting a Hoddle type…long passes, conducting the game etc…we don’t appear to have got that yet, but what we have got is someone tracking back between the centre-halfs making crunching goal saving tackles (2 vs Forest and at least 2 yesterday). ..which at this moment in time is needed. Up front – Smith and Ross – simply not working – they are miles apart, do not play off each other – 3 or 4 times yesterday, Smith headed it to Ross…who headed it back…and Smith tried to head it back for a third time…moving nowhere…no
Re: [LU] McDermott
I think its the haircut. Get that sorted and the cramp will disappear... From: Robert Heath rhe...@asd.edu.qa To: leedslist leedslist@gn.apc.org Sent: Sunday, January 5, 2014 7:34 AM Subject: [LU] McDermott I am definitely nowhere near approaching let alone climbing on the McDermott out bandwagon. However, I must admit I am starting to harbour a few doubts. I was at the Blackburn game, and there was one aspect of his management which was embarrassingly amateurish. It was quite obvious that Mowatt, in stretching to reach the shot which he hit against the bar, had got himself a cramp. He played on for another 20 mins, not moving quite right, going down in obvious pain a couple of times, but hanging in there. I have no problem with that...I think he is our most creative player, and at 1-2 in the last quarter we certainly needed even an 80% Mowatt. However, what got me was when he finally went down and, after lengthy treatment, clearly had to go off. He got to his feet and limped over to the benchand it was only at that moment that Brown started putting on his shirt and shinpads! Surely someone on the bench should have had the nous to have got a sub ready and even warming up from the moment the problem became clear in a situation where we're chasing the game? On a positive note..I do think that McD has taken the correct decision to basically throw the kids in and see if they sink or float...and if they float, let's hope that they learn and improve fast. We have a nucleus of a good half a team who are all 21 or underLees, Mowatt, Byram, Smith, Murphy. Even in a terribly flat performance like the B/burn game, there were a couple of flashes of superb interplay between Mowatt Byram. I do wish they would get Mowatt to lose a few pounds though. ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org John 'Grampa' Sykes Rest In Peace old lad 28th Oct 1938 - 12 Nov 2013 MARCHING ON TOGETHER ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org John 'Grampa' Sykes Rest In Peace old lad 28th Oct 1938 - 12 Nov 2013 MARCHING ON TOGETHER
[LU] Eusebio R.I.P.
sad news ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org John 'Grampa' Sykes Rest In Peace old lad 28th Oct 1938 - 12 Nov 2013 MARCHING ON TOGETHER
[LU] 4th Round
At least we can play the scum in a friendly. ;) ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org John 'Grampa' Sykes Rest In Peace old lad 28th Oct 1938 - 12 Nov 2013 MARCHING ON TOGETHER
Re: [LU] 4th Round
Never would be a friendly against scum. I love David Moyes. Sent from my iPad On 5 Jan 2014, at 18:33, Dr Michael Benjamin m...@myray.com wrote: At least we can play the scum in a friendly. ;) ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org John 'Grampa' Sykes Rest In Peace old lad 28th Oct 1938 - 12 Nov 2013 MARCHING ON TOGETHER ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org John 'Grampa' Sykes Rest In Peace old lad 28th Oct 1938 - 12 Nov 2013 MARCHING ON TOGETHER
Re: [LU] 4th Round
He might be available to take over from BMD at the end of the season... Ed. On 5 Jan 2014, at 18:35, Richard Walker richleed...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: I love David Moyes. ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org John 'Grampa' Sykes Rest In Peace old lad 28th Oct 1938 - 12 Nov 2013 MARCHING ON TOGETHER
Re: [LU] FA Cup info - any stattos out there ?
Dave, I think you've put the 1970 Cup Final (and replay) vs Chelsea out of your memory, for understandable reasons. Cheers! Sean -Original Message- From: nattan nat...@sky.com To: leeds list leedslist@gn.apc.org Sent: Sun, Jan 5, 2014 7:40 am Subject: [LU] FA Cup info - any stattos out there ? For some reason I told a number of people recently that we are the ONLY team to have lost in every round of the FA Cup proper I know Hereford beat us in the first round in 2008 then Histon in 2nd round the following year Rochdale in 3rd round yesterday we have lost any number of times in 4th, 5th and 6th rounds and of course have lost in the semi final to scum (77 among others) and have lost 2 finals (Scousers and Sunderland) so it looks as if we have lost in every round I cannot think of anyone else who has done this - lets face it not many FA cup winners have spent time in the 3rd division or lower so there will not be many teams who have lost in the first 2 rounds - but maybe someone like Villa, Wolves, Pompey or Cardiff have both won the FA Cup and had dreadful times in the league dropping through the Divisions I have tried to put the question into google etc in various forms but cannot find an answer - anyone out there know if we are the only team to have done it? (not that it is something to be proud of) Of course the 'opposite' is also true - we have won in every round too - has anyone else managed this ? Dave ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org John 'Grampa' Sykes Rest In Peace old lad 28th Oct 1938 - 12 Nov 2013 MARCHING ON TOGETHER ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org John 'Grampa' Sykes Rest In Peace old lad 28th Oct 1938 - 12 Nov 2013 MARCHING ON TOGETHER
[LU] Silver lining part 1
At least I won't have the piss taken out of me at the team leaders weekly brief tomorrow morning, one of the other guys is a mad keen West Ham supporter!!! MOT Graham White ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org John 'Grampa' Sykes Rest In Peace old lad 28th Oct 1938 - 12 Nov 2013 MARCHING ON TOGETHER
