Re: [LU] Fwd: Last 7 games

[Simon McNally via Leedslist]

By the sound of it, Carlos is about to be appointed by West Brom. Poch would be 
incredible but I can’t really see him coming to a team in the bottom three, 
particularly where the owner isn’t likely to stump up for either his wages or 
new signings.

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Sent: Monday, October 24, 2022 4:50:18 PM
To: Scott1cairns1 ; Nick 
Cc: Leeds List 2010 
Subject: Re: [LU] Fwd: Last 7 games

Carlos or Potch

-Original Message-
From: Leedslist  On Behalf Of Scott1cairns1
Sent: 24 October 2022 16:45
To: Nick 
Cc: Leeds List 2010 
Subject: Re: [LU] Fwd: Last 7 games

Any realistic suggestions as to a replacement.

Best regards,Scott.

> On 24 Oct 2022, at 12:29, Nick  wrote:
>
> I don’t know what to say any more. The precipitous descent from the joy of 
> watching football under Bielsa to this type of ham-fisted display, with no 
> hope, little fight or belief, without even the basics of playing football - 
> ball-control, good passing and movement, marking, tracking and tackling of 
> opponents - is really disheartening to see.
>
> Just a case in point - Jack Harrison - when we first signed him on loan he 
> was lightweight, flashes of brilliance but seriously under-delivering and 
> very much a “confidence player”…built up and believed in, he became one of 
> the top deliverers of chances (plus a few goals) in the league, from the 
> left-wing - we fend off Newcastle’s bid, for what? to ruin his impact by 
> playing him through the middle and/or down the right. Nonsense.
>
> I’m not really one for chasing managers out - although I do remember singing 
> “Wilko its time to go” back in the day - but it seems pretty clear to me that 
> a) JM is out of his depth, and b) our survival last year was at least as much 
> down to the brilliance of Raphinha rescuing games for us (with cameos from 
> Joffy etc) as it was down to the coaching team.
>
> Hope disappeared yesterday the minute they equalised - I mean who could know 
> that marking their big bastard of a centre forward and not allowing a free 
> header 6 yards out from a corner, was a good idea… - and we never looked like 
> getting it back. Fulham were tidy, but nowhere near unbeatable - same for 
> Leicester, really. They just went round us or through us, when they wanted to.
>
> Being a Leeds fan - we had a few glorious years when a different reality was 
> shown to be possible, but now we’re back to earth with a thump - stings 
> dunnit?
>
> Nick
>
>
>
>
>
>> Begin forwarded message:
>>
>> From: Ted 
>> Subject: Re: [LU] Last 7 games
>> Date: 23 October 2022 at 22:38:42 BST
>> To: John Lee 
>> Cc: leedslist 
>>
>> Agree totally John. Get rid now.
>>
>> Ted H
>>
>>> On Sun, 23 Oct 2022, 22:37 John Lee via Leedslist,
>>> 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> The question that should be asked is if he stays what does he have
>>> to offer that will change what is happening? I don’t see him
>>> affecting things positively full stop!
>>>
>>> Get rid asap, not because he’s American , or because his cliched
>>> jargonise is very annoying, but because he cannot organise a
>>> football team and stop them losing!
>>>
>>> There is so much of the season left to give a new manager time to
>>> reverse the slide, but if they piss about until Xmas it may be too late?
>>>
>>>
>
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Re: [LU] Fwd: Last 7 games

[Ben Thorpe]

Carlos or Potch

-Original Message-
From: Leedslist  On Behalf Of Scott1cairns1
Sent: 24 October 2022 16:45
To: Nick 
Cc: Leeds List 2010 
Subject: Re: [LU] Fwd: Last 7 games

Any realistic suggestions as to a replacement. 

Best regards,Scott. 

> On 24 Oct 2022, at 12:29, Nick  wrote:
> 
> I don’t know what to say any more. The precipitous descent from the joy of 
> watching football under Bielsa to this type of ham-fisted display, with no 
> hope, little fight or belief, without even the basics of playing football - 
> ball-control, good passing and movement, marking, tracking and tackling of 
> opponents - is really disheartening to see.
> 
> Just a case in point - Jack Harrison - when we first signed him on loan he 
> was lightweight, flashes of brilliance but seriously under-delivering and 
> very much a “confidence player”…built up and believed in, he became one of 
> the top deliverers of chances (plus a few goals) in the league, from the 
> left-wing - we fend off Newcastle’s bid, for what? to ruin his impact by 
> playing him through the middle and/or down the right. Nonsense.
> 
> I’m not really one for chasing managers out - although I do remember singing 
> “Wilko its time to go” back in the day - but it seems pretty clear to me that 
> a) JM is out of his depth, and b) our survival last year was at least as much 
> down to the brilliance of Raphinha rescuing games for us (with cameos from 
> Joffy etc) as it was down to the coaching team.
> 
> Hope disappeared yesterday the minute they equalised - I mean who could know 
> that marking their big bastard of a centre forward and not allowing a free 
> header 6 yards out from a corner, was a good idea… - and we never looked like 
> getting it back. Fulham were tidy, but nowhere near unbeatable - same for 
> Leicester, really. They just went round us or through us, when they wanted to.
> 
> Being a Leeds fan - we had a few glorious years when a different reality was 
> shown to be possible, but now we’re back to earth with a thump - stings 
> dunnit?
> 
> Nick
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> Begin forwarded message:
>> 
>> From: Ted 
>> Subject: Re: [LU] Last 7 games
>> Date: 23 October 2022 at 22:38:42 BST
>> To: John Lee 
>> Cc: leedslist 
>> 
>> Agree totally John. Get rid now.
>> 
>> Ted H
>> 
>>> On Sun, 23 Oct 2022, 22:37 John Lee via Leedslist, 
>>> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> The question that should be asked is if he stays what does he have 
>>> to offer that will change what is happening? I don’t see him 
>>> affecting things positively full stop!
>>> 
>>> Get rid asap, not because he’s American , or because his cliched 
>>> jargonise is very annoying, but because he cannot organise a 
>>> football team and stop them losing!
>>> 
>>> There is so much of the season left to give a new manager time to 
>>> reverse the slide, but if they piss about until Xmas it may be too late?
>>> 
>>> 
> 
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Re: [LU] Fwd: Last 7 games

[Scott1cairns1]

Any realistic suggestions as to a replacement. 

Best regards,Scott. 

> On 24 Oct 2022, at 12:29, Nick  wrote:
> 
> I don’t know what to say any more. The precipitous descent from the joy of 
> watching football under Bielsa to this type of ham-fisted display, with no 
> hope, little fight or belief, without even the basics of playing football - 
> ball-control, good passing and movement, marking, tracking and tackling of 
> opponents - is really disheartening to see.
> 
> Just a case in point - Jack Harrison - when we first signed him on loan he 
> was lightweight, flashes of brilliance but seriously under-delivering and 
> very much a “confidence player”…built up and believed in, he became one of 
> the top deliverers of chances (plus a few goals) in the league, from the 
> left-wing - we fend off Newcastle’s bid, for what? to ruin his impact by 
> playing him through the middle and/or down the right. Nonsense.
> 
> I’m not really one for chasing managers out - although I do remember singing 
> “Wilko its time to go” back in the day - but it seems pretty clear to me that 
> a) JM is out of his depth, and b) our survival last year was at least as much 
> down to the brilliance of Raphinha rescuing games for us (with cameos from 
> Joffy etc) as it was down to the coaching team.
> 
> Hope disappeared yesterday the minute they equalised - I mean who could know 
> that marking their big bastard of a centre forward and not allowing a free 
> header 6 yards out from a corner, was a good idea… - and we never looked like 
> getting it back. Fulham were tidy, but nowhere near unbeatable - same for 
> Leicester, really. They just went round us or through us, when they wanted to.
> 
> Being a Leeds fan - we had a few glorious years when a different reality was 
> shown to be possible, but now we’re back to earth with a thump - stings 
> dunnit?
> 
> Nick
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> Begin forwarded message:
>> 
>> From: Ted 
>> Subject: Re: [LU] Last 7 games
>> Date: 23 October 2022 at 22:38:42 BST
>> To: John Lee 
>> Cc: leedslist 
>> 
>> Agree totally John. Get rid now.
>> 
>> Ted H
>> 
>>> On Sun, 23 Oct 2022, 22:37 John Lee via Leedslist, 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> The question that should be asked is if he stays what does he have to
>>> offer that will change what is happening? I don’t see him affecting things
>>> positively full stop!
>>> 
>>> Get rid asap, not because he’s American , or because his cliched jargonise
>>> is very annoying, but because he cannot organise a football team and stop
>>> them losing!
>>> 
>>> There is so much of the season left to give a new manager time to reverse
>>> the slide, but if they piss about until Xmas it may be too late?
>>> 
>>> 
> 
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[LU] Xmas/NY games moved

[Wiggy]

Citeh game now Wed 28th Dec at 8pm (Amazon Prime)

West Ham game now Wed 4th Jan at 7.45pm


Not sure what that means for the FA Cup 3rd round on the weekend after 
... presumably we wouldn't play on the Satdi ?

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Re: [LU] Fwd: Last 7 games

[Neil Hackett]

I find myself in agreement with everyone else. We need to change.

I really wanted this to work. I like some of the ideas, and at times it looks 
like they could work.

But not anymore. Having lost two games like that we need to move on.  I can’t 
see where a win comes from.

In terms of recruitment, I know we need more players but, Aaronson, Adams and 
Sini might be our best three players so far.



> On Oct 24, 2022, at 7:29 AM, Nick  wrote:
> 
> I don’t know what to say any more. The precipitous descent from the joy of 
> watching football under Bielsa to this type of ham-fisted display, with no 
> hope, little fight or belief, without even the basics of playing football - 
> ball-control, good passing and movement, marking, tracking and tackling of 
> opponents - is really disheartening to see.
> 
> Just a case in point - Jack Harrison - when we first signed him on loan he 
> was lightweight, flashes of brilliance but seriously under-delivering and 
> very much a “confidence player”…built up and believed in, he became one of 
> the top deliverers of chances (plus a few goals) in the league, from the 
> left-wing - we fend off Newcastle’s bid, for what? to ruin his impact by 
> playing him through the middle and/or down the right. Nonsense.
> 
> I’m not really one for chasing managers out - although I do remember singing 
> “Wilko its time to go” back in the day - but it seems pretty clear to me that 
> a) JM is out of his depth, and b) our survival last year was at least as much 
> down to the brilliance of Raphinha rescuing games for us (with cameos from 
> Joffy etc) as it was down to the coaching team.
> 
> Hope disappeared yesterday the minute they equalised - I mean who could know 
> that marking their big bastard of a centre forward and not allowing a free 
> header 6 yards out from a corner, was a good idea… - and we never looked like 
> getting it back. Fulham were tidy, but nowhere near unbeatable - same for 
> Leicester, really. They just went round us or through us, when they wanted to.
> 
> Being a Leeds fan - we had a few glorious years when a different reality was 
> shown to be possible, but now we’re back to earth with a thump - stings 
> dunnit?
> 
> Nick
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> Begin forwarded message:
>> 
>> From: Ted 
>> Subject: Re: [LU] Last 7 games
>> Date: 23 October 2022 at 22:38:42 BST
>> To: John Lee 
>> Cc: leedslist 
>> 
>> Agree totally John. Get rid now.
>> 
>> Ted H
>> 
>>> On Sun, 23 Oct 2022, 22:37 John Lee via Leedslist, 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> The question that should be asked is if he stays what does he have to
>>> offer that will change what is happening? I don’t see him affecting things
>>> positively full stop!
>>> 
>>> Get rid asap, not because he’s American , or because his cliched jargonise
>>> is very annoying, but because he cannot organise a football team and stop
>>> them losing!
>>> 
>>> There is so much of the season left to give a new manager time to reverse
>>> the slide, but if they piss about until Xmas it may be too late?
>>> 
>>> 
> 
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Re: [LU] Marsch v Bielsa

[Torrey Gilday]

From Marsch's days at Salzburg, he mentions Bielsa/Leeds at about 8:20ish:
Link . From this presentation I can see the
tactical appeal, and some of the crossover between him and Bielsa.

Obviously, if Marsch can't get the players to follow his tactical ideas,
and doesn't get his team selection/subs right, that's on him.

On Mon, Oct 24, 2022 at 5:32 AM nattan--- via Leedslist <
leedslist@gn.apc.org> wrote:

> We were discussing pre match how come Marsch was seen as the successor to
> Bielsa. The claim from  the club was it would be a natural progression with
> an improved defence
> However when we started analysing things it is different.  Bielsa loved to
> play with wingers, at least one of them ( often Harrison) would always hug
> the touchline and was an easy 'out ball' , Marsch wants everything played
> through the middle and in a narrow (  " penis" - copyright the square ball)
> formation,  to quote jesss " the goals are in the middle of the pitch"
> Bielsa was all about possession and keeping the ball  Marsch is all about
> transition and turn over, letting the opposition have the ball and then
> force them into errors / giving the ball up in dangerous areas.
> The perfect Bielsa goal is after 10 or more passes, Marsch wants one or
> two passes to score.
> Bielsa all about man marking , Marsch all zonal, both at set pieces and in
> open play, all move to the side of the pitch where the ball is.
> Bielsa was all about integrity and never moaning at refs - Marsch the
> polar opposite,  get in the refs face and 'bully them into giving you the
> next decision "
> The only thing their teams had in common was the amount of running they
> do. Under Bielsa and Marsch our players cover more ground and do more
> running  , generally speaking,  than the opposition.  This one factor does
> not seem enough to make Jesse the natural successor in terms of style of
> play.
> Whatever, they need to make the correct decision now or we are facing more
> years in the doldrums ( our 20,000 season ticket waiting list will
> disappear overnight if relegated) They need to get " sack or back" correct
> and if sack , make the right choice in replacing him. Bielsa was always
> going to be  hard / impossible to replace but they appear to have got it
> very wrong
> Dave
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Re: [LU] Marsch v Bielsa

[Simon McNally via Leedslist]

Been saying the same things. I genuinely couldn’t tell you what Marsch’s style 
is. We try to play out from the back, with a few extremely high risk passes 
between defenders but because it’s not as slick as under Bielsa and there’s not 
as much off the ball movement (most of the time all our forwards are in a line 
at the half way line) the ball gets punted forward anyway.
Bamford/Rodrigo doesn’t win the header and the opposition are on the attack 
again.
We’re hopelessly narrow, really poor when we lose the ball high up field and 
unless something dramatic happens, sleepwalking towards relegation.

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From: Leedslist  on behalf of nattan--- via 
Leedslist 
Sent: Monday, October 24, 2022 12:32:22 PM
To: leeds list 
Subject: [LU] Marsch v Bielsa

We were discussing pre match how come Marsch was seen as the successor to 
Bielsa. The claim from  the club was it would be a natural progression with an 
improved defence
However when we started analysing things it is different.  Bielsa loved to play 
with wingers, at least one of them ( often Harrison) would always hug the 
touchline and was an easy 'out ball' , Marsch wants everything played through 
the middle and in a narrow (  " penis" - copyright the square ball) formation,  
to quote jesss " the goals are in the middle of the pitch"
Bielsa was all about possession and keeping the ball  Marsch is all about 
transition and turn over, letting the opposition have the ball and then force 
them into errors / giving the ball up in dangerous areas.
The perfect Bielsa goal is after 10 or more passes, Marsch wants one or two 
passes to score.
Bielsa all about man marking , Marsch all zonal, both at set pieces and in open 
play, all move to the side of the pitch where the ball is.
Bielsa was all about integrity and never moaning at refs - Marsch the polar 
opposite,  get in the refs face and 'bully them into giving you the next 
decision "
The only thing their teams had in common was the amount of running they do. 
Under Bielsa and Marsch our players cover more ground and do more running  , 
generally speaking,  than the opposition.  This one factor does not seem enough 
to make Jesse the natural successor in terms of style of play.
Whatever, they need to make the correct decision now or we are facing more 
years in the doldrums ( our 20,000 season ticket waiting list will disappear 
overnight if relegated) They need to get " sack or back" correct and if sack , 
make the right choice in replacing him. Bielsa was always going to be  hard / 
impossible to replace but they appear to have got it very wrong
Dave
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Re: [LU] Marsch v Bielsa

[Ed Morrish]

I'd also add: watch Man City. One of the things that makes them so hard to
play against - aside from billions of petrodollars of blood money - is the
way they spread themselves across the pitch. Yes, three players will close
down the ball, but the rest hold positions ready to press the next person
the ball might go to. So Marsch has looked at the most effective side in
British football and thought, "let's do the opposite".

On Mon, 24 Oct 2022 at 12:32, nattan--- via Leedslist 
wrote:

> We were discussing pre match how come Marsch was seen as the successor to
> Bielsa. The claim from  the club was it would be a natural progression with
> an improved defence
> However when we started analysing things it is different.  Bielsa loved to
> play with wingers, at least one of them ( often Harrison) would always hug
> the touchline and was an easy 'out ball' , Marsch wants everything played
> through the middle and in a narrow (  " penis" - copyright the square ball)
> formation,  to quote jesss " the goals are in the middle of the pitch"
> Bielsa was all about possession and keeping the ball  Marsch is all about
> transition and turn over, letting the opposition have the ball and then
> force them into errors / giving the ball up in dangerous areas.
> The perfect Bielsa goal is after 10 or more passes, Marsch wants one or
> two passes to score.
> Bielsa all about man marking , Marsch all zonal, both at set pieces and in
> open play, all move to the side of the pitch where the ball is.
> Bielsa was all about integrity and never moaning at refs - Marsch the
> polar opposite,  get in the refs face and 'bully them into giving you the
> next decision "
> The only thing their teams had in common was the amount of running they
> do. Under Bielsa and Marsch our players cover more ground and do more
> running  , generally speaking,  than the opposition.  This one factor does
> not seem enough to make Jesse the natural successor in terms of style of
> play.
> Whatever, they need to make the correct decision now or we are facing more
> years in the doldrums ( our 20,000 season ticket waiting list will
> disappear overnight if relegated) They need to get " sack or back" correct
> and if sack , make the right choice in replacing him. Bielsa was always
> going to be  hard / impossible to replace but they appear to have got it
> very wrong
> Dave
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[LU] Marsch v Bielsa

[nattan--- via Leedslist]

We were discussing pre match how come Marsch was seen as the successor to 
Bielsa. The claim from  the club was it would be a natural progression with an 
improved defence 
However when we started analysing things it is different.  Bielsa loved to play 
with wingers, at least one of them ( often Harrison) would always hug the 
touchline and was an easy 'out ball' , Marsch wants everything played through 
the middle and in a narrow (  " penis" - copyright the square ball) formation,  
to quote jesss " the goals are in the middle of the pitch"
Bielsa was all about possession and keeping the ball  Marsch is all about 
transition and turn over, letting the opposition have the ball and then force 
them into errors / giving the ball up in dangerous areas. 
The perfect Bielsa goal is after 10 or more passes, Marsch wants one or two 
passes to score.
Bielsa all about man marking , Marsch all zonal, both at set pieces and in open 
play, all move to the side of the pitch where the ball is.
Bielsa was all about integrity and never moaning at refs - Marsch the polar 
opposite,  get in the refs face and 'bully them into giving you the next 
decision "
The only thing their teams had in common was the amount of running they do. 
Under Bielsa and Marsch our players cover more ground and do more running  , 
generally speaking,  than the opposition.  This one factor does not seem enough 
to make Jesse the natural successor in terms of style of play.
Whatever, they need to make the correct decision now or we are facing more 
years in the doldrums ( our 20,000 season ticket waiting list will disappear 
overnight if relegated) They need to get " sack or back" correct and if sack , 
make the right choice in replacing him. Bielsa was always going to be  hard / 
impossible to replace but they appear to have got it very wrong 
Dave 
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[LU] Fwd: Last 7 games

[Nick]

I don’t know what to say any more. The precipitous descent from the joy of 
watching football under Bielsa to this type of ham-fisted display, with no 
hope, little fight or belief, without even the basics of playing football - 
ball-control, good passing and movement, marking, tracking and tackling of 
opponents - is really disheartening to see.

Just a case in point - Jack Harrison - when we first signed him on loan he was 
lightweight, flashes of brilliance but seriously under-delivering and very much 
a “confidence player”…built up and believed in, he became one of the top 
deliverers of chances (plus a few goals) in the league, from the left-wing - we 
fend off Newcastle’s bid, for what? to ruin his impact by playing him through 
the middle and/or down the right. Nonsense.

I’m not really one for chasing managers out - although I do remember singing 
“Wilko its time to go” back in the day - but it seems pretty clear to me that 
a) JM is out of his depth, and b) our survival last year was at least as much 
down to the brilliance of Raphinha rescuing games for us (with cameos from 
Joffy etc) as it was down to the coaching team.

Hope disappeared yesterday the minute they equalised - I mean who could know 
that marking their big bastard of a centre forward and not allowing a free 
header 6 yards out from a corner, was a good idea… - and we never looked like 
getting it back. Fulham were tidy, but nowhere near unbeatable - same for 
Leicester, really. They just went round us or through us, when they wanted to.

Being a Leeds fan - we had a few glorious years when a different reality was 
shown to be possible, but now we’re back to earth with a thump - stings dunnit?

Nick





> Begin forwarded message:
> 
> From: Ted 
> Subject: Re: [LU] Last 7 games
> Date: 23 October 2022 at 22:38:42 BST
> To: John Lee 
> Cc: leedslist 
> 
> Agree totally John. Get rid now.
> 
> Ted H
> 
> On Sun, 23 Oct 2022, 22:37 John Lee via Leedslist, 
> wrote:
> 
>> The question that should be asked is if he stays what does he have to
>> offer that will change what is happening? I don’t see him affecting things
>> positively full stop!
>> 
>> Get rid asap, not because he’s American , or because his cliched jargonise
>> is very annoying, but because he cannot organise a football team and stop
>> them losing!
>> 
>> There is so much of the season left to give a new manager time to reverse
>> the slide, but if they piss about until Xmas it may be too late?
>> 
>> 

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Re: [LU] Fulham

[Robert Heath]

Well.the next 4 games are L/pool (a), B/mouth (h), Tott
(a), Man C (h).

Since we are going to lose 3 of those anyway, we might as well lose 'em
under marsch rather than give Sam Allardyce, sorry, the new guy a nightmare
start. Hopefully, they are already sounding out candidates to bring in
after Haaland leaves Llorente strung up from the goalposts.

On the other hand...it's a real buyer's market at the moment with
Wolves & Vanilla both looking for a new manager. Maybe we ought to join
that fight before they snap up Steve Bruce?

FWIW, if they gave ME the job (and they could do worse - see above!) I'd
switch to 5-2-3RK1, Coops, Cormoran Strike at the
back.Ayling & yes Firpo as wingbacks..Adams and walker's
favourite in the middleAronson, Gelhardt & Sini across the
front.

P.P.S. And yeah..Rocky. Described on here as "contributing
nothing" I think...yeah, nothing. Well, except for one amazing
goalline block and an excellent contribution to our first goal.

On Mon, Oct 24, 2022 at 9:59 AM nattan--- via Leedslist <
leedslist@gn.apc.org> wrote:

> The end of the Marsch era is surely nigh? Things cannot go on like this,
> no organisation,  no cutting edge, no idea and subject to individual and
> collective errors
> The mood pre game was fairly dire, we did not expect much ( and did not
> get much) the only question was would a victory be enough to save Marsch.
> We will never know.
> Fulham cut us open very early on and the ball went past Meslier but two
> defenders ( Roca and Koch) gave it their all and saved the situation,
> perhaps the players were still behind the manager.  Things got better when
> a lovely ball by aaronson and a great first touch by Harrison gave him a
> clear shot on goal, the defender blocked it but it looped up for Rodrigo to
> head home,  one up and a bit of belief swept through the stadium ,
> unfortunately it was short lived.A corner and I was shouting " why the fuck
> is Ayling marking Mitrovic, what are you doing " Next thing a near post
> corner and Mitro beats Ayling,  what a surprise- NOT ( as they used to say)
> Fulham had a few more chances that went begging but we actually had a
> chance to get back in front but Bamford,  having a nightmare time of it,
> fluffed his opportunity. Then game over;  a cross with no-one putting
> pressure on the ball went to a totally unmarked player who glanced it home.
> The game and Marsch's Leeds career was then put to bed as a Fulham player
> waltzed through our defence 1-3.
> Joffy was given 6minutes to make something happen and he did, laying on a
> goal for Summerville but why is he not starting so we can all see if he is
> the real deal?
> So another home defeat, more boos from the crowd and we are bottom three.
> I dont like the managerial merry go round but what option is there- we
> have a team of decent players but no system and no idea.
> As the song goes " time to go " , the only question is do we sack him now,
> after Liverpool or wait till the break for the world cup ?Dave
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[LU] Fulham

[nattan--- via Leedslist]

The end of the Marsch era is surely nigh? Things cannot go on like this, no 
organisation,  no cutting edge, no idea and subject to individual and 
collective errors 
The mood pre game was fairly dire, we did not expect much ( and did not get 
much) the only question was would a victory be enough to save Marsch. We will 
never know.
Fulham cut us open very early on and the ball went past Meslier but two 
defenders ( Roca and Koch) gave it their all and saved the situation,  perhaps 
the players were still behind the manager.  Things got better when a lovely 
ball by aaronson and a great first touch by Harrison gave him a clear shot on 
goal, the defender blocked it but it looped up for Rodrigo to head home,  one 
up and a bit of belief swept through the stadium , unfortunately it was short 
lived.A corner and I was shouting " why the fuck is Ayling marking Mitrovic, 
what are you doing " Next thing a near post corner and Mitro beats Ayling,  
what a surprise- NOT ( as they used to say) 
Fulham had a few more chances that went begging but we actually had a chance to 
get back in front but Bamford,  having a nightmare time of it, fluffed his 
opportunity. Then game over;  a cross with no-one putting pressure on the ball 
went to a totally unmarked player who glanced it home. The game and Marsch's 
Leeds career was then put to bed as a Fulham player waltzed through our defence 
1-3. 
Joffy was given 6minutes to make something happen and he did, laying on a goal 
for Summerville but why is he not starting so we can all see if he is the real 
deal?
So another home defeat, more boos from the crowd and we are bottom three.
I dont like the managerial merry go round but what option is there- we have a 
team of decent players but no system and no idea.
As the song goes " time to go " , the only question is do we sack him now, 
after Liverpool or wait till the break for the world cup ?Dave 
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