Re: [LU] Scared?

[Jim Moran]

Think Farke said Willy wasn’t 100%.

Agree on Gruev. 4-1-4-1 was our undoing in the end.

On Sat, 13 Apr 2024 at 18:16, Richard Walker via Leedslist <
leedslist@gn.apc.org> wrote:

> Harsh. Yes he had a really bad game today but over the last few
> weeks, when we’ve looked shit, he’s been the only one who looks like he can
> still make things happen. In fact, it must be difficult for him when our
> main tactic is to give the ball to him and ask him to beat 2 or 3 men
> consistently.I think if you’re looking for disappointing players you’ve got
> to look at Piroe, who offered nothing as a no 9 and I’d offload him now or
> Bamford (and I was a fan) who came on and did nothing other than look for a
> pen. Or Rutter, who looked like a world beater a month ago , but now looks
> like a non-league trier. I was actually starting to think that this guy was
> another Cantona but what’s happened? You can’t blame it on the operation
> because it started before then - he was awful against Town. Maybe it’s an
> injury ? Not sure but he’s not worth his place in the team at the
> moment.Very disappointing today, I couldn’t even stay out for drinks I was
> that pissed off. Farke’s substitutions were mystifying and totally messed
> with our rythmn. How can you take out 2 best players off - Gnonto and Gruev
> ? Were they both struggling? Didn’t look like it to me.You don’t get more
> Leeds than today. Can’t see us winning another game - I put that in to make
> me look like a cunt when we get promoted ! Chateauneuf-du-Pape tonight -
> got to cheer yourself somehow on days like this. FFS !
>
>
> Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone
>
>
> On Saturday, April 13, 2024, 5:57 PM, John Lee via Leedslist <
> leedslist@gn.apc.org> wrote:
>
> Summerville has the potential to play at a higher level, and has
> demonstrated that on a few occasions this season. He also ‘appears’ to have
> an inflated opinion of his own abilities. He is no dead-ball expert, his
> passing is conditional on whether nothing is on for him, he gives the ball
> away consistently, dives ALOT, and his shooting is patchy. I find him
> really frustrating to watch and I am surprised players don’t give him a
> bollocking for not passing quicker. I hope he refinds the form of 2 months
> ago, because on todays form, he’s a waste of a shirt.
>
> I think he’ll leave whatever happens this season?
>
> Other opinions are available :-)
>
> > On 13 Apr 2024, at 15:25, Nick Allen  wrote:
> >
> > Why? He’s been outstanding.
> >
> > Regularly touted by non-Leeds people as the best in the league.
> >
> > Nick
> >
> >> On 13 Apr 2024, at 14:36, Jim Moran  wrote:
> >>
> >> I think he lost himself today
> >>
>  On Sat, 13 Apr 2024 at 14:32, Ed Morrish  wrote:
> >>>
> >>> UPDATE:
> >>>
> >>> I’m no longer worried about losing Summerville.
> >>>
> >>> Sent from my iPhone
> >>>
>  On 13 Apr 2024, at 12:13, Ed Morrish  wrote:
> 
>  I was talking to an Ipswich mate, and my general assessment of them
> is
> >>> they’ve had an amazing season, but if they go up they’ll get battered
> every
> >>> week - they simply won’t score enough goals against PL defences. His
> >>> response was that if they didn’t go up, he was scared that they’d lose
> >>> McKenna (presumably to West Han or Brighton, if vacancies arrive).
> 
>  So what are we scared of, if we don’t go up? I think we see the
> breakup
> >>> of this team, and that’s worries me. It’s not like Bielsa’s first
> season,
> >>> where we kept the team we had. We WILL lose - have to lose,
> financially -
> >>> players like Gnonto, Cree and Rutter. Maybe not Archie this year, but
> DF
> >>> would be starting from scratch and you never really know how a player
> is
> >>> going to bed in, and if that causes the same disruption in September
> that
> >>> the comings and goings caused last September, we could find ourselves
> >>> chasing the pack once again.
> 
>  I just hope that we’ve done some work on the outcasts - what happens
> to
> >>> Harrison, Aaronson, Rasmus et al - if we are still an EFL team next
> year…
> 
>  Ed.
> 
> 
>  Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [LU] Susan Calman’s Great British Cities - LEEDS

[Ted]

Yeah - I saw it too John, enjoyed it!

On Sat, 13 Apr 2024, 12:04 John Lee via Leedslist, 
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> I rarely watch Channel 5, but episode 5 of Susan Calman’s Great British
> Cities is about Leeds and is actually really good - recommended for those
> who’d like to know a bit more about Leeds!
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Re: [LU] Scared?

[Richard Walker via Leedslist]

Harsh. Yes he had a really bad game today but over the last few weeks, when 
we’ve looked shit, he’s been the only one who looks like he can still make 
things happen. In fact, it must be difficult for him when our main tactic is to 
give the ball to him and ask him to beat 2 or 3 men consistently.I think if 
you’re looking for disappointing players you’ve got to look at Piroe, who 
offered nothing as a no 9 and I’d offload him now or Bamford (and I was a fan) 
who came on and did nothing other than look for a pen. Or Rutter, who looked 
like a world beater a month ago , but now looks like a non-league trier. I was 
actually starting to think that this guy was another Cantona but what’s 
happened? You can’t blame it on the operation because it started before then - 
he was awful against Town. Maybe it’s an injury ? Not sure but he’s not worth 
his place in the team at the moment.Very disappointing today, I couldn’t even 
stay out for drinks I was that pissed off. Farke’s substitutions were 
mystifying and totally messed with our rythmn. How can you take out 2 best 
players off - Gnonto and Gruev ? Were they both struggling? Didn’t look like it 
to me.You don’t get more Leeds than today. Can’t see us winning another game - 
I put that in to make me look like a cunt when we get promoted ! 
Chateauneuf-du-Pape tonight - got to cheer yourself somehow on days like this. 
FFS !


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On Saturday, April 13, 2024, 5:57 PM, John Lee via Leedslist 
 wrote:

Summerville has the potential to play at a higher level, and has demonstrated 
that on a few occasions this season. He also ‘appears’ to have an inflated 
opinion of his own abilities. He is no dead-ball expert, his passing is 
conditional on whether nothing is on for him, he gives the ball away 
consistently, dives ALOT, and his shooting is patchy. I find him really 
frustrating to watch and I am surprised players don’t give him a bollocking for 
not passing quicker. I hope he refinds the form of 2 months ago, because on 
todays form, he’s a waste of a shirt. 

I think he’ll leave whatever happens this season?

Other opinions are available :-)

> On 13 Apr 2024, at 15:25, Nick Allen  wrote:
> 
> Why? He’s been outstanding.
> 
> Regularly touted by non-Leeds people as the best in the league.
> 
> Nick
> 
>> On 13 Apr 2024, at 14:36, Jim Moran  wrote:
>> 
>> I think he lost himself today
>> 
 On Sat, 13 Apr 2024 at 14:32, Ed Morrish  wrote:
>>> 
>>> UPDATE:
>>> 
>>> I’m no longer worried about losing Summerville.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On 13 Apr 2024, at 12:13, Ed Morrish  wrote:
 
 I was talking to an Ipswich mate, and my general assessment of them is
>>> they’ve had an amazing season, but if they go up they’ll get battered every
>>> week - they simply won’t score enough goals against PL defences. His
>>> response was that if they didn’t go up, he was scared that they’d lose
>>> McKenna (presumably to West Han or Brighton, if vacancies arrive).
 
 So what are we scared of, if we don’t go up? I think we see the breakup
>>> of this team, and that’s worries me. It’s not like Bielsa’s first season,
>>> where we kept the team we had. We WILL lose - have to lose, financially -
>>> players like Gnonto, Cree and Rutter. Maybe not Archie this year, but DF
>>> would be starting from scratch and you never really know how a player is
>>> going to bed in, and if that causes the same disruption in September that
>>> the comings and goings caused last September, we could find ourselves
>>> chasing the pack once again.
 
 I just hope that we’ve done some work on the outcasts - what happens to
>>> Harrison, Aaronson, Rasmus et al - if we are still an EFL team next year…
 
 Ed.
 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [LU] Scared?

[John Lee via Leedslist]

Summerville has the potential to play at a higher level, and has demonstrated 
that on a few occasions this season. He also ‘appears’ to have an inflated 
opinion of his own abilities. He is no dead-ball expert, his passing is 
conditional on whether nothing is on for him, he gives the ball away 
consistently, dives ALOT, and his shooting is patchy. I find him really 
frustrating to watch and I am surprised players don’t give him a bollocking for 
not passing quicker. I hope he refinds the form of 2 months ago, because on 
todays form, he’s a waste of a shirt. 

I think he’ll leave whatever happens this season?

Other opinions are available :-)

> On 13 Apr 2024, at 15:25, Nick Allen  wrote:
> 
> Why? He’s been outstanding.
> 
> Regularly touted by non-Leeds people as the best in the league.
> 
> Nick
> 
>> On 13 Apr 2024, at 14:36, Jim Moran  wrote:
>> 
>> I think he lost himself today
>> 
 On Sat, 13 Apr 2024 at 14:32, Ed Morrish  wrote:
>>> 
>>> UPDATE:
>>> 
>>> I’m no longer worried about losing Summerville.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On 13 Apr 2024, at 12:13, Ed Morrish  wrote:
 
 I was talking to an Ipswich mate, and my general assessment of them is
>>> they’ve had an amazing season, but if they go up they’ll get battered every
>>> week - they simply won’t score enough goals against PL defences. His
>>> response was that if they didn’t go up, he was scared that they’d lose
>>> McKenna (presumably to West Han or Brighton, if vacancies arrive).
 
 So what are we scared of, if we don’t go up? I think we see the breakup
>>> of this team, and that’s worries me. It’s not like Bielsa’s first season,
>>> where we kept the team we had. We WILL lose - have to lose, financially -
>>> players like Gnonto, Cree and Rutter. Maybe not Archie this year, but DF
>>> would be starting from scratch and you never really know how a player is
>>> going to bed in, and if that causes the same disruption in September that
>>> the comings and goings caused last September, we could find ourselves
>>> chasing the pack once again.
 
 I just hope that we’ve done some work on the outcasts - what happens to
>>> Harrison, Aaronson, Rasmus et al - if we are still an EFL team next year…
 
 Ed.
 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
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[LU] Blackburn

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An absolute sickener. Unlike Tuesday when we were awful, we actually played 
pretty well for the most, really took the game to them and did everything but 
score The result was a real smash and grab.We just lacked quality with the 
final ball and that little bit of luck, Gnonto not quite reaching a cross ( 
think Gazza v Germany) , their keeper making a great save and the ball bouncing 
back to him, a decent penalty shout for a foul on Bamford  and other half 
chances. The pressure is getting to all the top 3.We are not dead yet but 
somehow things have to change and quickly 
DF did what a lot of fans wanted,  bringing in Piroe for Bamford and putting 
Archie in midfield,. Neither really worked - Piroe didnt have any real scoring 
opportunities and Gray looked lost ( he also looked tired)
Dallas got a grest reception in the half time interval 
Blackburns anti football, time wasting par excellence,  abetted by an 
ineffective referee ( just let them delay every throw in and dead ball, and 
added one minute, one fucking minute ! first half - scandalous,  won the day 
Can't be bothered to write more - i am so dejected
Ipswich not winning either means we are not quite done yet but it feels like 
the play offs 
Dave 
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Re: [LU] Scared?

[Nick Allen]

Why? He’s been outstanding.

Regularly touted by non-Leeds people as the best in the league.

Nick

> On 13 Apr 2024, at 14:36, Jim Moran  wrote:
> 
> I think he lost himself today
> 
>> On Sat, 13 Apr 2024 at 14:32, Ed Morrish  wrote:
>> 
>> UPDATE:
>> 
>> I’m no longer worried about losing Summerville.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On 13 Apr 2024, at 12:13, Ed Morrish  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I was talking to an Ipswich mate, and my general assessment of them is
>> they’ve had an amazing season, but if they go up they’ll get battered every
>> week - they simply won’t score enough goals against PL defences. His
>> response was that if they didn’t go up, he was scared that they’d lose
>> McKenna (presumably to West Han or Brighton, if vacancies arrive).
>>> 
>>> So what are we scared of, if we don’t go up? I think we see the breakup
>> of this team, and that’s worries me. It’s not like Bielsa’s first season,
>> where we kept the team we had. We WILL lose - have to lose, financially -
>> players like Gnonto, Cree and Rutter. Maybe not Archie this year, but DF
>> would be starting from scratch and you never really know how a player is
>> going to bed in, and if that causes the same disruption in September that
>> the comings and goings caused last September, we could find ourselves
>> chasing the pack once again.
>>> 
>>> I just hope that we’ve done some work on the outcasts - what happens to
>> Harrison, Aaronson, Rasmus et al - if we are still an EFL team next year…
>>> 
>>> Ed.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [LU] Scared?

[Jim Moran]

I think he lost himself today

On Sat, 13 Apr 2024 at 14:32, Ed Morrish  wrote:

> UPDATE:
>
> I’m no longer worried about losing Summerville.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On 13 Apr 2024, at 12:13, Ed Morrish  wrote:
> >
> > I was talking to an Ipswich mate, and my general assessment of them is
> they’ve had an amazing season, but if they go up they’ll get battered every
> week - they simply won’t score enough goals against PL defences. His
> response was that if they didn’t go up, he was scared that they’d lose
> McKenna (presumably to West Han or Brighton, if vacancies arrive).
> >
> > So what are we scared of, if we don’t go up? I think we see the breakup
> of this team, and that’s worries me. It’s not like Bielsa’s first season,
> where we kept the team we had. We WILL lose - have to lose, financially -
> players like Gnonto, Cree and Rutter. Maybe not Archie this year, but DF
> would be starting from scratch and you never really know how a player is
> going to bed in, and if that causes the same disruption in September that
> the comings and goings caused last September, we could find ourselves
> chasing the pack once again.
> >
> > I just hope that we’ve done some work on the outcasts - what happens to
> Harrison, Aaronson, Rasmus et al - if we are still an EFL team next year…
> >
> > Ed.
> >
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [LU] Scared?

[Ed Morrish]

UPDATE:

I’m no longer worried about losing Summerville.

Sent from my iPhone

> On 13 Apr 2024, at 12:13, Ed Morrish  wrote:
> 
> I was talking to an Ipswich mate, and my general assessment of them is 
> they’ve had an amazing season, but if they go up they’ll get battered every 
> week - they simply won’t score enough goals against PL defences. His response 
> was that if they didn’t go up, he was scared that they’d lose McKenna 
> (presumably to West Han or Brighton, if vacancies arrive).
> 
> So what are we scared of, if we don’t go up? I think we see the breakup of 
> this team, and that’s worries me. It’s not like Bielsa’s first season, where 
> we kept the team we had. We WILL lose - have to lose, financially - players 
> like Gnonto, Cree and Rutter. Maybe not Archie this year, but DF would be 
> starting from scratch and you never really know how a player is going to bed 
> in, and if that causes the same disruption in September that the comings and 
> goings caused last September, we could find ourselves chasing the pack once 
> again.
> 
> I just hope that we’ve done some work on the outcasts - what happens to 
> Harrison, Aaronson, Rasmus et al - if we are still an EFL team next year…
> 
> Ed.
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [LU] Scared?

[Simon McNally via Leedslist]

I’ve got mates who support Ipswich and Leicester.
They’re both as terrified as we are.
The Ipswich one reckons they are out on their feet and the Leicester one thinks 
their heads have gone.
I guess the worry for us is the loss of our better players.
I suspect though that we won’t be under pressure to sell for less than market 
value like in the past.

Sent from Outlook for iOS

From: Leedslist  on behalf of Ed Morrish 

Sent: Saturday, April 13, 2024 12:13:42 PM
To: list leedslist 
Subject: [LU] Scared?

I was talking to an Ipswich mate, and my general assessment of them is they’ve 
had an amazing season, but if they go up they’ll get battered every week - they 
simply won’t score enough goals against PL defences. His response was that if 
they didn’t go up, he was scared that they’d lose McKenna (presumably to West 
Han or Brighton, if vacancies arrive).

So what are we scared of, if we don’t go up? I think we see the breakup of this 
team, and that’s worries me. It’s not like Bielsa’s first season, where we kept 
the team we had. We WILL lose - have to lose, financially - players like 
Gnonto, Cree and Rutter. Maybe not Archie this year, but DF would be starting 
from scratch and you never really know how a player is going to bed in, and if 
that causes the same disruption in September that the comings and goings caused 
last September, we could find ourselves chasing the pack once again.

I just hope that we’ve done some work on the outcasts - what happens to 
Harrison, Aaronson, Rasmus et al - if we are still an EFL team next year…

Ed.


Sent from my iPhone
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[LU] Scared?

[Ed Morrish]

I was talking to an Ipswich mate, and my general assessment of them is they’ve 
had an amazing season, but if they go up they’ll get battered every week - they 
simply won’t score enough goals against PL defences. His response was that if 
they didn’t go up, he was scared that they’d lose McKenna (presumably to West 
Han or Brighton, if vacancies arrive).

So what are we scared of, if we don’t go up? I think we see the breakup of this 
team, and that’s worries me. It’s not like Bielsa’s first season, where we kept 
the team we had. We WILL lose - have to lose, financially - players like 
Gnonto, Cree and Rutter. Maybe not Archie this year, but DF would be starting 
from scratch and you never really know how a player is going to bed in, and if 
that causes the same disruption in September that the comings and goings caused 
last September, we could find ourselves chasing the pack once again.

I just hope that we’ve done some work on the outcasts - what happens to 
Harrison, Aaronson, Rasmus et al - if we are still an EFL team next year…

Ed.


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[LU] Scared?

[Ed Morrish]

I was talking to an Ipswich mate, and my general assessment of them is they’ve 
had an amazing season, but if they go up they’ll get battered every week - they 
simply won’t score enough goals against PL defences. His response was that if 
they didn’t go up, he was scared that they’d lose McKenna (presumably to West 
Han or Brighton, if vacancies arrive).

So what are we scared of, if we don’t go up? I think we see the breakup of this 
team, and that’s worries me. It’s not like Bielsa’s first season, where we kept 
the team we had. We WILL lose - have to lose, financially - players like 
Gnonto, Cree and Rutter. Maybe not Archie this year, but DF would be starting 
from scratch and you never really know how a player is going to bed in, and if 
that causes the same disruption in September that the comings and goings caused 
last September, we could find ourselves chasing the pack once again.

I just hope that we’ve done some work on the outcasts - what happens to 
Harrison, Aaronson, Rasmus et al - if we are still an EFL team next year…

Ed.


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[LU] Susan Calman’s Great British Cities - LEEDS

[John Lee via Leedslist]

I rarely watch Channel 5, but episode 5 of Susan Calman’s Great British Cities 
is about Leeds and is actually really good - recommended for those who’d like 
to know a bit more about Leeds!
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