Re: [LU] this could be good

[{broken-address} Richard Walker]

nailed on - I reckon a 15 point fine. 

  From: Richard Naef 
 To: "'leeds list (leedslist@gn.apc.org)'"  
 Sent: Wednesday, 26 April 2017, 13:01
 Subject: [LU] this could be good
   
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-39716009

It's a very long shot, firstly that utter scumbag Ashley will go to prison and 
2ndly the 7th team might get promotion!

ttfn

Richard

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Re: [LU] this could be good

[{broken-address} Richard Walker]

Can't be us. Unless Cellino has stolen all that money he's giving back to the 
fans. 

  From: Michael Benjamin 
 To: Errand Fivefold ; Richard Naef 
; "'leeds list (leedslist@gn.apc.org)'" 
 
 Sent: Wednesday, 26 April 2017, 13:21
 Subject: Re: [LU] this could be good
   
Wait to see who is next :)

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|-Original Message-
|From: Leedslist [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of Errand
|Fivefold
|Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2017 3:19 PM
|To: Richard Naef ; 'leeds list
|(leedslist@gn.apc.org)' 
|Subject: Re: [LU] this could be good
|
|Somehwere over the rainbow.. I wish. :-P
| Verner tHe LiTtLe YeLlOw DaFfOdIl @}-,-'--
|
|      From: Richard Naef 
| To: "'leeds list (leedslist@gn.apc.org)'" 
| Sent: Wednesday, 26 April 2017, 13:01
| Subject: [LU] this could be good
|
|http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-39716009
|
|It's a very long shot, firstly that utter scumbag Ashley will go to prison and 
2ndly
|the 7th team might get promotion!
|
|ttfn
|
|Richard
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Re: [LU] this could be good

[{broken-address} Richard Walker]

ok 20 point fine 

  From: Richard Naef 
 To: Nicholas Armit ; Richard Walker 
; "'leeds list (leedslist@gn.apc.org)'" 
 
 Sent: Wednesday, 26 April 2017, 20:48
 Subject: RE: [LU] this could be good
   
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behind and they have a better GD.    ttfn    Richard    From: Nicholas Armit 
[mailto:arm...@yahoo.com]
Sent: 26 April 2017 20:45
To: Richard Walker ; Richard Naef 
; 'leeds list (leedslist@gn.apc.org)' 

Subject: Re: [LU] this could be good    Is that enough?    From: 
{broken-address} Richard Walker 
To: Richard Naef ; "'leeds list 
(leedslist@gn.apc.org)'" 
Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2017 3:42 PM
Subject: Re: [LU] this could be good    nailed on - I reckon a 15 point fine.   
        From: Richard Naef  To: "'leeds list 
(leedslist@gn.apc.org)'"  Sent: Wednesday, 26 April 2017, 
13:01 Subject: [LU] this could be good   
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-39716009    It's a very long shot, firstly 
that utter scumbag Ashley will go to prison and 2ndly the 7th team might get 
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Re: [LU] this could be good

[{broken-address} Richard Walker]

actually make it 25

  From: Richard Naef 
 To: Nicholas Armit ; Richard Walker 
; "'leeds list (leedslist@gn.apc.org)'" 
 
 Sent: Wednesday, 26 April 2017, 20:48
 Subject: RE: [LU] this could be good
   
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behind and they have a better GD.    ttfn    Richard    From: Nicholas Armit 
[mailto:arm...@yahoo.com]
Sent: 26 April 2017 20:45
To: Richard Walker ; Richard Naef 
; 'leeds list (leedslist@gn.apc.org)' 

Subject: Re: [LU] this could be good    Is that enough?    From: 
{broken-address} Richard Walker 
To: Richard Naef ; "'leeds list 
(leedslist@gn.apc.org)'" 
Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2017 3:42 PM
Subject: Re: [LU] this could be good    nailed on - I reckon a 15 point fine.   
        From: Richard Naef  To: "'leeds list 
(leedslist@gn.apc.org)'"  Sent: Wednesday, 26 April 2017, 
13:01 Subject: [LU] this could be good   
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-39716009    It's a very long shot, firstly 
that utter scumbag Ashley will go to prison and 2ndly the 7th team might get 
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Re: [LU] LU: Norwich Spare

[{broken-address} Richard Walker]

dead rubber Mick, I might stay in the pub.

  From: "Robinson, Mick" 
 To: 'leeds list'  
 Sent: Friday, 28 April 2017, 16:30
 Subject: [LU] LU: Norwich Spare
   
I have a spare ticket for tomorrow if anyone needs one.


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Re: [LU] This Season

[{broken-address} Richard Walker]

Shite first half, Roofe is shit, Howson should be our first Summer singing

Monk deserves another season although I think he may be limited in his thinking 

Get Janson, batley , beradi , Ayling and Parker signed up and all will be will. 
Green sorted.

Pissed, boxing fantastic - Joshua more of a frank Bruno for me rTher Tegan hero 
- fighting a 41 yeR old. FFS 



On Sat, 29/4/17, Richard Naef  wrote:

 Subject: Re: [LU] This Season
 To: "Simon McNally" 
 Cc: "leeds list (leedslist@gn.apc.org)" 
 Date: Saturday, 29 April, 2017, 18:06
 
 Glenn Murray can't hack it in
 the premiership so let's give him a contract, fancy tom
 ince and maybe see if howson is up for a return (and milner
 for that matter)
 
 Sent from
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  Original Message
 
 Subject: Re: [LU] This Season
 From: Simon McNally
 To: Richard
 Naef
 CC: "leeds list (leedslist@gn.apc.org)"
 
 It's a shame the last few
 weeks have taken the gloss off what has been a good
 season.
 Where do we need to improve?
 I think we need another striker and more
 experience in midfield
 
 Simon
 
 Sent
 from my iPhone
 
 > On 29
 Apr 2017, at 17:32, Richard Naef 
 wrote:
 >
 > Ultimately
 a disappointing last 3 weeks, but overall at the top end of
 any of our expectations.  Hopefully we can sign up Jannson,
 Bartley, and most importantly Monk.  Roofe needs to spend
 the summer getting himself fit and able to stay on his feet
 and justify the money we paid and Hernandez has to decide if
 he's willing to perform every match, if not get rid. 
 Barrow and Pedrasa can get back on the next flight to
 wherever they came from.
 >
 > Then on top of that some serious
 investment in players from Cellino, it can't be done on
 the cheap, so we are talking 10M+.
 >
 > ttfn
 >
 > Richard
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Re: [LU] ST refunds

[{broken-address} Richard Walker]

i was at the boxing and it was a great night / atmosphere. 
Soon as we get rid of that Cellino the better though - giving money back to the 
fans ! Disgraceful. Let's get back to screwing the fans royally. 

  From: "nat...@sky.com" 
 To: Leeds List  
 Sent: Monday, 15 May 2017, 16:13
 Subject: [LU] ST refunds
   
Well , one in the eye for all the 'doubters'The OS has announced details of how 
to reclaim your ST refund for us not finishing top 6 - no vouchers for club 
shop, no money off this years ST, but actual cash paid by BACS - and a few 
weeks grace to claim it
There is also an optiont to re give the money back to the Academy if you wish, 
and a claim that all money that is not claimed will go to that fund
So full marks all round - a great and innovative idea (whatever the thinking 
behind it, before the moaners come out with 'he needed the cash') and one that 
has worked - we sold more STs than for a number of years and this, plu what 
happened on the pitch has given us both some pride back and some hope for the 
future
By all accounts Gary Monk got a brilliant reception by a packed crowd at the 
Josh Warrington fight (who was led out by Jermaine 'what shirt am I wearing 
bruv?' Beckford- with Simon Grayson also present)
So onward and upwards - missing it already, it seems odd us being finished when 
others are still playing
Dave
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Re: [LU] : Manchester

[{broken-address} Richard Walker]

agreed, business as usual is what got us into this mess. Burying our heads in 
the sand and continuing as if nothing happened and the perspective this guy was 
just a lone nutter will solve nothing. 
All these people changing their facebook profile pics,  holding placards and 
calling for tolerance are doing nothing to resolve the issue. I fear that 
attacks like this will become the norm very soon.  
  From: Michael Benjamin 
 To: "nat...@sky.com" ; Leeds List  
 Sent: Wednesday, 24 May 2017, 11:34
 Subject: Re: [LU] : Manchester
   
It isn't business as usual. It never can be. It means vigilance and guards. It 
means profiling. It means dawn raids and searches. As I get on my El Al flights 
I am aghast at the armed presence. They can only make things worse. Sure, it's 
a feel good factor but if they open fire they'll kill a lot more than e 
terrorist.
How does it stop? By having guards who intercept the terrorist. A lot die for 
their efforts. But the 'kill rate' falls dramatically. So low it is no longer 
is effective.
Civil liberties are curtailed. You have no alternative. Profiling is 
unpleasant. 
Right now the UK is in a worse position than we were.  We can identify the 
problem areas and if need be close them down. It's cruel It is collective 
punishment. It works. The same goes for profiling. 
Sorry, it is not business as usual. If it is, expect a lot more deaths. 
Michael

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|-Original Message-
|From: Leedslist [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of
|nat...@sky.com
|Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2017 1:10 PM
|To: Leeds List 
|Subject: Re: [LU] : Manchester
|
|I doubt anyone could see the picture of the 8 year old girl and not get upset -
|anyone normal that is !Odd feeling around the place at present - I went to the
|Lowry Theatre last night and it was business as usual- almost - they never 
usually
|do any sort bag checking but last night they did have 2 old dears (it is mainly
|staffed by volunteers) looking in handbags. It was a sell out crowd and every 
seat
|was full so no-one appeared to be 'scared off' - it was odd on the way out
|afterwards to see 2 police cars - one from Wales with Heddu written on it - 
with
|3 coppers stood with them, 2 with machine guns and one with a hand gun - they
|were getting pizza from a local pizzeria. I hate to see armed police and hope 
this
|does not become the normI know friends who are going, as normal, to the town
|centre tonight to watch their game and I am off into Piccadilly on Saturday 
for a
|few beers.
|I do know a lad with 2 young daughters who had tickets for the MEN but could
|not go and gave the tickets away, thankfully to people who stayed safe (that
|would not be a good thing to have on your conscience if they had died) and he 
is
|worried about taking them into town over the weekend for the marathon or
|whatever it is. He does not want the terrorists to 'win' but fears for their 
safety
|and thinks that they will be too worried to enjoy themselves - difficult 
decisions
|The saving grace of it all is the fact that it is one (or maybe a few) nutters 
who
|did this atrocious act but the number of people who did great things during and
|afterwards is in the hundreds if not more - rescuing people, giving free taxis,
|giving so much blood they have stopped taking it , people taking food to the
|hospitals, and the various collections for the victims families and for the two
|homeless lads who helped are going through the roof.
|We will have the flag at half mast tonight at cubs to show our respect I am not
|however having a bee tattooed on myself at weekend despite the Manchester
|tattoo association saying they will do them for a £50 donation to the victims 
fund
|dave
|
|
|      From: Graham Thirkill 
| To: leedslist@gn.apc.org
| Sent: Tuesday, 23 May 2017, 19:32
| Subject: [LU] : Manchester
|
|Richard Naeff said: Quote
|> Hope Dave and anyone else with connections to Manchester is OK -  can't all
|sides just stop killing Children?
|> ttfn Richard Quote”
|
|May I second Rich’s, post…Iv’e crie…...but not ashamed, I’m a father and grand-
|father and uncle. It’s heartbreaking, thinking, any of these unfortunate, 
lovely
|kids could have been one of my lovely kids…To Manchester people... I take my
|hat off to you all, you have been amazing, the way you “ALL" have come out and
|done your utmost, to help these magic people who were caught up in terror in
|you city……..with your courage, kindness, support and help…….
|Thanks from a Yorkshireman.
|
|Cheers and Beers
|Thirkers\08/
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Re: [LU] Monk resigned

[{broken-address} Richard Walker]

yes - be careful what you wish for all you Cellino out fuckers 

  From: N If 
 To: leedslist  
 Sent: Thursday, 25 May 2017, 13:37
 Subject: [LU] Monk resigned
   
That's a blow.  :-(
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Re: [LU] Monk resigned

[{broken-address} Richard Walker]

Terry Venables ?

  From: Richard Naef 
 To: Jeremy Adams  
Cc: "'leeds list (leedslist@gn.apc.org)'" 
 Sent: Thursday, 25 May 2017, 17:10
 Subject: Re: [LU] Monk resigned
   
OK If not him then who? 
He did get Boro up and that's what we want, and what other options are there?  

ttfn

Richard

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Sent: 25 May 2017 16:22
To: John Boocock ; N If ; Leeds List 
; {broken-address} Richard Walker 

Subject: Re: [LU] Monk resigned

Hard to imagine it's anyone other than Karanka, which is depressing.



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Re: [LU] Monk resigned

[{broken-address} Richard Walker]

I wonder if your attitude would have been the same if Cellino was in charge ?

  From: Michael Benjamin 
 To: Richard Naef ; "'leeds list 
(leedslist@gn.apc.org)'"  
 Sent: Thursday, 25 May 2017, 17:33
 Subject: Re: [LU] Monk resigned
   
Sorry he's gone. 
But, if you don’t want to be here -- adios. 
No one is bigger than the club. 

Michael 

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|-Original Message-
|From: Leedslist [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of Richard
|Naef
|Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 7:27 PM
|To: 'leeds list (leedslist@gn.apc.org)' 
|Subject: Re: [LU] Monk resigned
|
|I hear Steven Evans is still available….
|
|ttfn
|
|Richard
|
|From: Richard Walker [mailto:richleed...@yahoo.co.uk]
|Sent: 25 May 2017 17:22
|To: Richard Naef ; Jeremy Adams
|
|Cc: 'leeds list (leedslist@gn.apc.org)' 
|Subject: Re: [LU] Monk resigned
|
|Terry Venables ?
|
|
|From: Richard Naef mailto:rich...@triumph-computers.co.uk>>
|To: Jeremy Adams
|mailto:jeremyadam...@hotmail.com>>
|Cc: "'leeds list (leedslist@gn.apc.org<mailto:leedslist@gn.apc.org>)'"
|mailto:leedslist@gn.apc.org>>
|Sent: Thursday, 25 May 2017, 17:10
|Subject: Re: [LU] Monk resigned
|
|OK If not him then who?
|He did get Boro up and that's what we want, and what other options are there?
|
|ttfn
|
|Richard
|
|-Original Message-
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|boun...@gn.apc.org>] On Behalf Of Jeremy Adams
|Sent: 25 May 2017 16:22
|To: John Boocock mailto:j...@boocock.net>>; N If
|mailto:mister@gmail.com>>; Leeds List
|mailto:leedslist@gn.apc.org>>; {broken-address} Richard
|Walker mailto:richleed...@yahoo.co.uk.is-broken.gn.apc.org>>
|Subject: Re: [LU] Monk resigned
|
|Hard to imagine it's anyone other than Karanka, which is depressing.
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Re: [LU] Monk resigned

[{broken-address} Richard Walker]

Possibly, however let's wait and hear Monk's side of things. 
I was however pointing out that if Cellino has been in charge he would have 
taken all the stick for this however it appears that Monk is getting most now 
rather than the new owner. 
What about the rumour that Radrizzani had been trying to get that Italian 
Watford cunt to come and manage us before triggering Monk's one year extension. 
That sounds more plausible to me. 
Get the coffin ready. 

  From: Matt Anderson 
 To: Michael Benjamin  
Cc: "leeds list (leedslist@gn.apc.org)" 
 Sent: Thursday, 25 May 2017, 18:51
 Subject: Re: [LU] Monk resigned
   
Spot on! Nothing to do with owners. He has a better job to go to. 

> On 25 May 2017, at 17:33, Michael Benjamin  wrote:
> 
> Sorry he's gone. 
> But, if you don’t want to be here -- adios. 
> No one is bigger than the club. 
> 
> Michael 
> 
> Dr  Michael Benjamin, 
> Community Psychiatrist.
> 
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> 
> |-Original Message-
> |From: Leedslist [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of Richard
> |Naef
> |Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 7:27 PM
> |To: 'leeds list (leedslist@gn.apc.org)' 
> |Subject: Re: [LU] Monk resigned
> |
> |I hear Steven Evans is still available….
> |
> |ttfn
> |
> |Richard
> |
> |From: Richard Walker [mailto:richleed...@yahoo.co.uk]
> |Sent: 25 May 2017 17:22
> |To: Richard Naef ; Jeremy Adams
> |
> |Cc: 'leeds list (leedslist@gn.apc.org)' 
> |Subject: Re: [LU] Monk resigned
> |
> |Terry Venables ?
> |
> |
> |From: Richard Naef  |computers.co.uk<mailto:rich...@triumph-computers.co.uk>>
> |To: Jeremy Adams
> |mailto:jeremyadam...@hotmail.com>>
> |Cc: "'leeds list (leedslist@gn.apc.org<mailto:leedslist@gn.apc.org>)'"
> |mailto:leedslist@gn.apc.org>>
> |Sent: Thursday, 25 May 2017, 17:10
> |Subject: Re: [LU] Monk resigned
> |
> |OK If not him then who?
> |He did get Boro up and that's what we want, and what other options are there?
> |
> |ttfn
> |
> |Richard
> |
> |-Original Message-
> |From: Leedslist [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org<mailto:leedslist-
> |boun...@gn.apc.org>] On Behalf Of Jeremy Adams
> |Sent: 25 May 2017 16:22
> |To: John Boocock mailto:j...@boocock.net>>; N If
> |mailto:mister@gmail.com>>; Leeds List
> |mailto:leedslist@gn.apc.org>>; {broken-address} Richard
> |Walker  |broken.gn.apc.org<mailto:richleed...@yahoo.co.uk.is-broken.gn.apc.org>>
> |Subject: Re: [LU] Monk resigned
> |
> |Hard to imagine it's anyone other than Karanka, which is depressing.
> |
> |
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[LU] Fw: Leeds United Appoint Director of Football

[{broken-address} Richard Walker]

just can't get excited about this appointment not least because he is the 
'Director of Football'.
does that mean we are getting a coach / manager in ?  

 
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Re: [LU] Alan Pardew?

[{broken-address} Richard Walker]

great management this isn't it. 
radrizzina obviously has no plan ! 

  From: Michael Benjamin 
 To: {broken-address} ; Tim 
Whelan  
Cc: "leedslist@gn.apc.org" 
 Sent: Wednesday, 7 June 2017, 21:58
 Subject: Re: [LU] Alan Pardew?
   
Hay say's he's not coming. 
We don't know what is going on yet. 
Best wait and see. 

Michael 



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|-Original Message-
|From: Leedslist [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of {broken-
|address}
|Sent: Wednesday, June 7, 2017 9:40 PM
|To: Tim Whelan 
|Cc: leedslist@gn.apc.org
|Subject: Re: [LU] Alan Pardew?
|
|Hardly inspiring is he? A manager who thinks lots of himself, despite his 
record.
|Had hoped we'd get someone like the Hudds manager, who wants his teams to
|play entertaining football.
|
|Sent from my iPad
|
|> On 7 Jun 2017, at 13:44, Tim Whelan  wrote:
|>
|> It seems to me that Pardew does well when he first goes to a club, but after 
a
|while it starts to go pear shaped. That's been a consistent pattern over quite 
a
|few jobs he's taken on.
|> Tim W.
|>
|>
|>    On Wednesday, 7 June 2017, 13:40, Jeremy Adams
| wrote:
|>
|>
|> Seems Alan Pardew's odds are now 10/11 to become the next Leeds manager.
|Did something happen overnight?
|>
|> I think he could do a job for us. Thirkers will probably disagree with that
|though.
|>
|>
|> Best,
|>
|>
|> Jeremy
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Re: [LU] Gary Monk

[{broken-address} Richard Walker]

pure money decision. 
of course if Cellino was in charge it would be 'tight arse didn't offer him 
enough money / long enough contract' 
now we've got our great new owner it's "Snake", "Judas"


  From: ejwalsh 
 To: John Lee  
Cc: Leeds List 
 Sent: Friday, 9 June 2017, 11:20
 Subject: [LU] Gary Monk
   
New Middlesborough manager.
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Re: [LU] Gary Monk

[{broken-address} Richard Walker]

Yep - I actually think that FA Cup debacle was worthy of a sacking. Absolute 
disgrace to the fans. 

  From: Ted 
 To: John Lee  
Cc: Leeds List 
 Sent: Friday, 9 June 2017, 12:54
 Subject: Re: [LU] Gary Monk
   
John wrote:


>
> Having witnessed some of the worst football I've ever seen last season,
> I'm not particularly upset he's gone, but it'd be nice to see someone new
> come in and re-energise things.
>
>
>
True - although there was some of the best football we'd seen in years as
well, Derby at home for one.

I've still not forgiven him for the FA Cup 3rd round debacle.

Ted
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Re: [LU] Lewis Cooke & the Brownlees

[{broken-address} Richard Walker]

anyone tell me why the league cup draw is being made in Thailand ?

  From: Richard Naef 
 To: Leeds List  
 Sent: Sunday, 11 June 2017, 21:38
 Subject: Re: [LU] Lewis Cooke & the Brownlees
   
Even better, the world's greatest Yorkhiremen (present company excepted of 
course) did a 1-2 in the Leeds Triathlon!

ttfn

Richard

-Original Message-
From: Leedslist [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of 
nat...@sky.com
Sent: 11 June 2017 12:58
To: Leeds List 
Subject: [LU] Lewis Cooke

I don't generally care about ex players but it will be nice to watch Cooke lift 
the world cup trophy in a minute (albeit 'only' the under 20s) - perhaps bodes 
well for the future of English football, especially with Vierra getting the 
winning penalty to win the Toulon tournament, and scoring with such style 
Anyway, well done Cooke - up there with Delph as the best youngster over recent 
years (and now Vierra too) DavePS Not too sure about the Jap Stam rumours, it 
would not be a popular decision with fans 
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Re: [LU] Lewis Cooke & the Brownlees

[{broken-address} Richard Walker]

lol.



  From: Richard Naef 
 To: Leeds List  
 Sent: Monday, 12 June 2017, 17:46
 Subject: Re: [LU] Lewis Cooke & the Brownlees
   

anyone tell me why the league cup draw is being made in Thailand ?

Picture the following;
FA Committee meeting;
OK Gentlemen, time to vote for the location for this years’ League Cup Draw, 
there are 2 options;

  1.  Some drab conference room in Letchworth
  2.  Royal Hilton Resort in Thailand, all expenses paid, that lovely lady with 
the ping pong ball trick will be attending as well.
Let your imagination do the rest.

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Re: [LU] Thomas Christiansen - no me neither

[{broken-address} Richard Walker]

It's Dave Hockaday's foreign cousin ! 
It's got disaster written all over it. 
Be careful what you wish for Cellino outers, 

  From: "nat...@sky.com" 
 To: Leeds List  
 Sent: Thursday, 15 June 2017, 12:05
 Subject: [LU] Thomas Christiansen - no me neither
   
Phil Hay says TC from Cypriot team Apoel has been confirmed as new manager
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Re: [LU] FFS

[{broken-address} Richard Walker]

Zola Budd ? 

  From: Graham Farr 
 To: "Leeds List (leedslist@gn.apc.org)"  
 Sent: Thursday, 15 June 2017, 12:24
 Subject: [LU] FFS
   
May as well have picked Zola.


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Re: [LU] Thomas Christiansen - no me neither

[{broken-address} Richard Walker]

I liked the comment:
Christiansen joins the club from APOEL Nicosia in Cyprus after winning the 
First Division title last season, as well as leading his former club to the 
last 16 of the UEFA Europa League.

Isn't that winning 1 game ?



  From: Richard Naef 
 To: Phill Shields ; Matt Anderson 
; Richard Walker  
Cc: Leeds List 
 Sent: Thursday, 15 June 2017, 14:43
 Subject: Re: [LU] Thomas Christiansen - no me neither
   
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To be fair I doubt any of us had heard of Wagner, the bloke from the wendies, 
any of the last 10 Watford managers, pottetchino, etc etc. I suspect our new 
leader has taken advice from many people on an up and coming prospect. But 
lettuce also see who he has as his backroom staff.

Sent from my Mobile

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Subject: Re: [LU] Thomas Christiansen - no me neither
From: Phill Shields 
To: Matt Anderson ,Richard Walker 
CC: Leeds List 

This appointment lacks ambition in my opinion and feels like a financial one as 
opposed to football. If this had been announced in the period when season 
tickets were up for renewal it would have certainly had a negative impact.

Apparently AR was very impressed with TC at the interview, my question is how 
did he even get an interview?

When looking for the qualities to manage us I would have expected the 
successful candidate to meet most of the following criteria:-


  *   Track record of management in English football and preferably the 
Championship;
  *   Ability to attract better players than we have now;
  *   Some sort of silverware in management;
  *   Able to build on what we already have.

He patently fails against 3 of that criteria. Seriously, I don’t care how good 
he was at interview, if this is the best AR can do he should have fought tough 
and nail to keep Monk.

You will have gathered that I am thoroughly pissed off. This is a massive 
gamble and, as usual, it is us the fans whose hopes and aspirations are being 
toyed with again.

It feels to me like we are doing it on the cheap yet again. Can’t wait to see 
our squad been improved by all these superstars from Cyprus football.

MOT



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Sent: 15 June 2017 13:33
To: Richard Walker<mailto:richleed...@yahoo.co.uk>
Cc: Leeds List<mailto:leedslist@gn.apc.org>
Subject: Re: [LU] Thomas Christiansen - no me neither

He did win a title and get to europa league last 16 last year.

Got a better track record than monk

No idea what he is like but didn't fancy any of the others we were linked with

Just because we haven't heard of him doesn't mean he is rubbish

Sent from my iPhone

> On 15 Jun 2017, at 13:19, {broken-address} Richard Walker 
>  wrote:
>
> It's Dave Hockaday's foreign cousin !
> It's got disaster written all over it.
> Be careful what you wish for Cellino outers,
>
>  From: "nat...@sky.com" 
> To: Leeds List 
> Sent: Thursday, 15 June 2017, 12:05
> Subject: [LU] Thomas Christiansen - no me neither
>
> Phil Hay says TC from Cypriot team Apoel has been confirmed as new manager
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Re: [LU] Thomas Christiansen - no me neither

[{broken-address} Richard Walker]

Sack the board and get a mock coffin ready for the opening day I say.

  From: Michael Benjamin 
 To: Matt Anderson ; Richard Naef 
 
Cc: Leeds List 
 Sent: Thursday, 15 June 2017, 15:12
 Subject: Re: [LU] Thomas Christiansen - no me neither
   
What would you guys have said to Revie? 
Give him a chance. The whole structure is business like, structured and well 
thought out. 
We have the age of lunacy behind. 
With method, we'll get there. No promise when; but a lot sooner than without it.

Michael 

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|-Original Message-
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|Anderson
|Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2017 4:57 PM
|To: Richard Naef 
|Cc: Leeds List 
|Subject: Re: [LU] Thomas Christiansen - no me neither
|
|Or karanka
|
|Sent from my iPhone
|
|> On 15 Jun 2017, at 14:43, Richard Naef 
|wrote:
|>
|> To be fair I doubt any of us had heard of Wagner, the bloke from the wendies,
|any of the last 10 Watford managers, pottetchino, etc etc. I suspect our new
|leader has taken advice from many people on an up and coming prospect. But
|lettuce also see who he has as his backroom staff.
|>
|> Sent from my Mobile
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|>  Original Message 
|> Subject: Re: [LU] Thomas Christiansen - no me neither
|> From: Phill Shields
|> To: Matt Anderson ,Richard Walker
|> CC: Leeds List
|>
|> This appointment lacks ambition in my opinion and feels like a financial one 
as
|opposed to football. If this had been announced in the period when season
|tickets were up for renewal it would have certainly had a negative impact.
|>
|> Apparently AR was very impressed with TC at the interview, my question is
|how did he even get an interview?
|>
|> When looking for the qualities to manage us I would have expected the
|> successful candidate to meet most of the following criteria:-
|>
|>
|>  *  Track record of management in English football and preferably the
|Championship;
|>  *  Ability to attract better players than we have now;
|>  *  Some sort of silverware in management;
|>  *  Able to build on what we already have.
|>
|> He patently fails against 3 of that criteria. Seriously, I don’t care how 
good he
|was at interview, if this is the best AR can do he should have fought tough and
|nail to keep Monk.
|>
|> You will have gathered that I am thoroughly pissed off. This is a massive
|gamble and, as usual, it is us the fans whose hopes and aspirations are being
|toyed with again.
|>
|> It feels to me like we are doing it on the cheap yet again. Can’t wait to 
see our
|squad been improved by all these superstars from Cyprus football.
|>
|> MOT
|>
|>
|>
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|> From: Matt Anderson<mailto:m...@leeds-united.net>
|> Sent: 15 June 2017 13:33
|> To: Richard Walker<mailto:richleed...@yahoo.co.uk>
|> Cc: Leeds List<mailto:leedslist@gn.apc.org>
|> Subject: Re: [LU] Thomas Christiansen - no me neither
|>
|> He did win a title and get to europa league last 16 last year.
|>
|> Got a better track record than monk
|>
|> No idea what he is like but didn't fancy any of the others we were
|> linked with
|>
|> Just because we haven't heard of him doesn't mean he is rubbish
|>
|> Sent from my iPhone
|>
|> > On 15 Jun 2017, at 13:19, {broken-address} Richard Walker
| wrote:
|> >
|> > It's Dave Hockaday's foreign cousin !
|> > It's got disaster written all over it.
|> > Be careful what you wish for Cellino outers,
|> >
|> >      From: "nat...@sky.com" 
|> > To: Leeds List 
|> > Sent: Thursday, 15 June 2017, 12:05
|> > Subject: [LU] Thomas Christiansen - no me neither
|> >
|> > Phil Hay says TC from Cypriot team Apoel has been confirmed as new
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Re: [LU] Thomas Christiansen - no me neither

[{broken-address} Richard Walker]

I think we could all trash Monk's tactics ! 

  From: Richard Naef 
 To: Leeds List  
 Sent: Friday, 16 June 2017, 10:22
 Subject: Re: [LU] Thomas Christiansen - no me neither
   
Plus, Phil Hay's YEP article says he gave a very good interview (including 
trashing Monk's tactics in some games), so I don't think we are in Watermelon 
territory here.

ttfn

Richard

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{broken-address} John Lee
Sent: 16 June 2017 09:27
To: David Komadina ; Ian Murray 
Cc: Leeds List 
Subject: Re: [LU] Thomas Christiansen - no me neither

Very fair points David. We need someone who can bring something new and a spark 
to the club - I was dreading the likes of Karanka/Pardew etc - why would 
bringing in people who have managed at the level but essentially been 
unsuccessful be seen as a good thing - it just prolongs mediocrity. 
Christainsen's footballing background is pretty good, and who knows, having an 
ex forward as a manager might encourage having more than one up front? Famous 
last words and all that!

      From: David Komadina 
 To: Ian Murray 
Cc: Leeds List 
 Sent: Friday, 16 June 2017, 1:35
 Subject: Re: [LU] Thomas Christiansen - no me neither
  
This guy's coaching success may well have only been in Cyprus, but he has 
played at the highest level so he's under no illusion as to what is expected of 
him. Personally I'm happy we're not recycling another mercenary English manager 
for the nth time.

On 16 June 2017 at 08:11, Ian Murray  wrote:

> Agreed. Let's wait and see. We're all well used to dross and it can't 
> be worse than Hockaday/Warnock/Evans or any of the other myriad of 
> losers we have had in the dugout.
>
>
>
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Re: [LU] non LU - Sorry.....

[{broken-address} Richard Walker]

agreed, but in all arguments when someone says "Sack Him" you need an 
alternative. 
What is your suggestion for an alternative ?

  From: Damian Walsh 
 To: leedslist  
 Sent: Friday, 16 June 2017, 20:28
 Subject: [LU] non LU - Sorry.
   
 But May has got to go.

Whatever your politics!, All I can see is an inept fuckup who is a disgrace
to an office held honourably by her fellow Conservatives Disraeli,
Churchill and Ted Heath amongst others.

Damian
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Re: [LU] non LU - Sorry.....

[{broken-address} Richard Walker]

Corbyn ???
he got his arse kicked by the worst tory leader and campaign in living history. 

  From: Damian Walsh 
 To: leedslist  
 Sent: Saturday, 17 June 2017, 12:28
 Subject: Re: [LU] non LU - Sorry.
   
Amazingly enough it does look like Corbyn's time has come.

But I don't think he'll get the chance because that will take an election
and I think that the Tory Party will do everything to avoid that for a year
or two.

So you'll probably end up with Boris Johnson.

Damian

On Sat, Jun 17, 2017 at 9:29 AM, Richard Walker 
wrote:

> agreed, but in all arguments when someone says "Sack Him" you need an
> alternative.
>
> What is your suggestion for an alternative ?
>
>
> --
> *From:* Damian Walsh 
> *To:* leedslist 
> *Sent:* Friday, 16 June 2017, 20:28
> *Subject:* [LU] non LU - Sorry.
>
>  But May has got to go.
>
> Whatever your politics!, All I can see is an inept fuckup who is a disgrace
> to an office held honourably by her fellow Conservatives Disraeli,
> Churchill and Ted Heath amongst others.
>
> Damian
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Re: [LU] non LU - Sorry.....

[{broken-address} Richard Walker]

He is only considered successful because expectations were so low which were 
down to him. Like our heroic defeat against the scousers last year. 
He's now got Labour seat totals back to err ... Gordon Brown level and he 
resigned after his result. Corbyn should do the same. 

  From: Graham White 
 To: Richard Walker ; Damian Walsh 
; leedslist  
 Sent: Sunday, 18 June 2017, 10:28
 Subject: Re: [LU] non LU - Sorry.
   
Oh come on Rich, we all know that the only reason that the Maybot called an 
early election (forget all that nonsense about "strengthening my mandate for 
Brexit") was she and the rest of the Tories thought they were going to get a 
Thatcher/Blair sized landslide, consigning Labour to irrelevance for a 
generation, thus enabling them and their mates to continue looting the British 
economy until it all goes tits up!

All the speculation in the press at the start of the election was on how many 
seats Labour were going to lose, I don't think any pundit at all predicted that 
Labour would gain seats - so on that basis it has to be seen as a very 
successful election for Corbyn, helped as you say by "the worst tory leader and 
campaign in living history", and that seems to be the general public 
perception.   Lots of speculation amongst the chattering classes that the 
Maybot wants to go but the Tory grandees won't let her as they're too shit 
scared that Labour/Corbyn might win another General Election if it's held soon.

Good joke doing the rounds on Facebook:
Corbyn and the Pope are having tea on the Embankment when a gust of wind blows 
the Pope's hat into the river.  Corbyn says to the Pope "Don't worry your 
Holiness, I'll get that" and walks across the river, picks up the Pope's hat 
and walks back across the river and gives the Pope his hat back.
Next day's headline in the Mail - "Corbyn Can't Swim!!"

PS - I didn't vote Labour BTW.

Cheers
 Graham White

 

On Sunday, 18 June 2017, 10:29, {broken-address} Richard Walker 
 wrote:
 

 Corbyn ???
he got his arse kicked by the worst tory leader and campaign in living history. 

      From: Damian Walsh 
 To: leedslist  
 Sent: Saturday, 17 June 2017, 12:28
 Subject: Re: [LU] non LU - Sorry.
  
Amazingly enough it does look like Corbyn's time has come.

But I don't think he'll get the chance because that will take an election
and I think that the Tory Party will do everything to avoid that for a year
or two.

So you'll probably end up with Boris Johnson.

Damian

On Sat, Jun 17, 2017 at 9:29 AM, Richard Walker 
wrote:

> agreed, but in all arguments when someone says "Sack Him" you need an
> alternative.
>
> What is your suggestion for an alternative ?
>
>
> --
> *From:* Damian Walsh 
> *To:* leedslist 
> *Sent:* Friday, 16 June 2017, 20:28
> *Subject:* [LU] non LU - Sorry.
>
>  But May has got to go.
>
> Whatever your politics!, All I can see is an inept fuckup who is a disgrace
> to an office held honourably by her fellow Conservatives Disraeli,
> Churchill and Ted Heath amongst others.
>
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Re: [LU] Saiz sorted

[{broken-address} Richard Walker]

Whilst encouraged by the buying back of the ground and the money being invested 
in permanent deals I can't helping thinking there's too many fucking unknown 
foreigners who haven't a clue about english football. 

  From: "nat...@sky.com" 
 To: Leeds List  
 Sent: Thursday, 13 July 2017, 12:14
 Subject: [LU] Saiz sorted
   
Well it has taken a while but Simon Says has now signed a 4 yea deal. They 
think he has cost £3m
Top player in Spanish 2nd Division so a step up but does seem to have something 
about him
It appears as if we are signing two more in the next couple of days - Alioski 
having a medical, he has the best pedigree of the foreign imports, - and a 
young lad (another winger - someone at ER likes wingers-) 19yr old Rayo 
Vallecano midfielder Alejandro Machuca , supposedly for the u23s.

Get a defender sorted and make sure we do not lose Wood and things really look 
good .
I do have some reservations over the manager and clearly not all the signings 
will be a success but we seem to have a decent mix of proven players and 
'gambles' and  we do not need to improve much on last season results to get in 
play offs at the very least. Apart from Bartley (and Monk of course) we have 
not lost anyone of real importance- Taylor perhaps but he only played in half 
the games and we did not miss him

Bellusci is going so that is another plus
Dave
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Re: [LU] Things getting stranger

[{broken-address} Richard Walker]

agree Dave but ultimately we'll find out in the next few weeks if we have 
actually built upon last season. 
I think the Bartley / Jansson partnership will be hard to replace and I expect 
us to start leaking goals again. 
It also doesn't look like the new manager wants to play Viera - hope that's 
wrong and bringing in a new keeper to replace arguable the player of the season 
looks dangerous to me. 
Anyway, looking forward to Bolton and Preston - season might be over by end of 
August. 

  From: "nat...@sky.com" 
 To: Leeds List  
 Sent: Friday, 4 August 2017, 14:49
 Subject: [LU] Things getting stranger
   
We seem to have been making a lot of 'strange' decisions this close seasonWe 
have brought in a lot of behind the scences people - I don't even know the job 
titles of many, then we get a lot of (supposedly highly rated) foreigners to 
play for the under 23s, then we sign a player on a 4 yr contract but send him 
straight out on loan and not even to an English club where he could adjust and 
learn the game over here. All this with adding 6 or 7 midfielders but without 
replacing the only two players of note who left - Bartley and Taylor.
Now , perhaps the strangest of all , TC has allegeldy asked the players to pick 
the captain - no problem if this is the club captain, someone to represent the 
players, but really odd if it is the actual captain on the pitch . Bremner and 
Strachan to pick two obvious examples were the managers 'favourite' and were 
his eyes, ears and most importanitly mouth on the pitch. SO they have to be 
someone who plays every week and who really buys into the managers ideas.
So, whilst I am happy with the way things are going - we seem to be a lot more 
professional and properly run, and of course buying back ER is a massive plus, 
there are still things which appear odd (the choice of TC as manager being one)
Dave
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Re: [LU] Bye bye Bridcutt ?

[{broken-address} Richard Walker]

Bridcutt on loan was a much better player than when he was permanent last 
season. 
Maybe he looked better next to Lewis Cook ? 

  From: "nat...@sky.com" 
 To: Leeds List  
 Sent: Sunday, 6 August 2017, 15:24
 Subject: [LU] Bye bye Bridcutt ?
   
Seen on twitter that the team / squad have arrived and to quote Phil 
HayBridcutt, Doukara and Antonsson all missing
No surprise re Antonsson and I am sure he will be on his way asap, Doukara has 
flattered to deceive at times and I do think there is a player in there BUT 
again I think we will get rid if we can.
As for Bridcutt , I thought he was fairly poor for a lot of last season.A  lot 
of this was him coming much too deep, but we assumed at the time that he was 
acting under instructions. He is one of those players who can look good and bad 
in the same game and I was surprised how many fans seemed to think getting him 
to sign full time after his loan deal was a big thing . I have always been a 
bit 'meh' about him. He is OK but no match winner and there is better out there 
(hopefully Anita and Klitch plus Viera O'Kane and Phillips will mean we do not 
miss him if he goes)
Hay also suggests, 'a stab' I think he said that the team was basically last 
season with Weidwald and Pennington the only new players starting today (had a 
forward midfield 3 of Dallas, Hernandez and Roofe in front of O'Kane and 
Phillips)

Dave
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Re: [LU] Bye bye Bridcutt ?

[{broken-address} Richard Walker]

no Vierra in 18 - strange. 

  From: {broken-address} Richard Walker 

 To: "nat...@sky.com" ; Leeds List  
 Sent: Sunday, 6 August 2017, 15:33
 Subject: Re: [LU] Bye bye Bridcutt ?
   
Bridcutt on loan was a much better player than when he was permanent last 
season. 
Maybe he looked better next to Lewis Cook ? 

      From: "nat...@sky.com" 
 To: Leeds List  
 Sent: Sunday, 6 August 2017, 15:24
 Subject: [LU] Bye bye Bridcutt ?
  
Seen on twitter that the team / squad have arrived and to quote Phil 
HayBridcutt, Doukara and Antonsson all missing
No surprise re Antonsson and I am sure he will be on his way asap, Doukara has 
flattered to deceive at times and I do think there is a player in there BUT 
again I think we will get rid if we can.
As for Bridcutt , I thought he was fairly poor for a lot of last season.A  lot 
of this was him coming much too deep, but we assumed at the time that he was 
acting under instructions. He is one of those players who can look good and bad 
in the same game and I was surprised how many fans seemed to think getting him 
to sign full time after his loan deal was a big thing . I have always been a 
bit 'meh' about him. He is OK but no match winner and there is better out there 
(hopefully Anita and Klitch plus Viera O'Kane and Phillips will mean we do not 
miss him if he goes)
Hay also suggests, 'a stab' I think he said that the team was basically last 
season with Weidwald and Pennington the only new players starting today (had a 
forward midfield 3 of Dallas, Hernandez and Roofe in front of O'Kane and 
Phillips)

Dave
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Re: [LU] Bye bye Bridcutt ?

[{broken-address} Richard Walker]

its nonsense - kid is young and surely wants to play. He hasn't played for 
weeks.



  From: David W 
 To: {broken-address} Richard Walker ; Richard Walker 
; nat...@sky.com; Leeds List  
 Sent: Sunday, 6 August 2017, 15:42
 Subject: Re: [LU] Bye bye Bridcutt ?
   
Phil Hay suggesting may be being rested a bit after a long summer playing for 
England. If that's true, reassuring. Though given there is a 2 week 
international break in about 3 weeks, seems unduly cautious.  

‎
  Original Message  
From: {broken-address} Richard Walker
Sent: Sunday, 6 August 2017 15:40
To: Richard Walker; nat...@sky.com; Leeds List
Reply To: Richard Walker
Subject: Re: [LU] Bye bye Bridcutt ?

no Vierra in 18 - strange. 

From: {broken-address} Richard Walker 

To: "nat...@sky.com" ; Leeds List  
Sent: Sunday, 6 August 2017, 15:33
Subject: Re: [LU] Bye bye Bridcutt ?

Bridcutt on loan was a much better player than when he was permanent last 
season. 
Maybe he looked better next to Lewis Cook ? 

      From: "nat...@sky.com" 
To: Leeds List  
Sent: Sunday, 6 August 2017, 15:24
Subject: [LU] Bye bye Bridcutt ?
  
Seen on twitter that the team / squad have arrived and to quote Phil 
HayBridcutt, Doukara and Antonsson all missing
No surprise re Antonsson and I am sure he will be on his way asap, Doukara has 
flattered to deceive at times and I do think there is a player in there BUT 
again I think we will get rid if we can.
As for Bridcutt , I thought he was fairly poor for a lot of last season.A  lot 
of this was him coming much too deep, but we assumed at the time that he was 
acting under instructions. He is one of those players who can look good and bad 
in the same game and I was surprised how many fans seemed to think getting him 
to sign full time after his loan deal was a big thing . I have always been a 
bit 'meh' about him. He is OK but no match winner and there is better out there 
(hopefully Anita and Klitch plus Viera O'Kane and Phillips will mean we do not 
miss him if he goes)
Hay also suggests, 'a stab' I think he said that the team was basically last 
season with Weidwald and Pennington the only new players starting today (had a 
forward midfield 3 of Dallas, Hernandez and Roofe in front of O'Kane and 
Phillips)

Dave
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Re: [LU] Bye bye Bridcutt ?

[{broken-address} Richard Walker]

playing in black wtf ! 

  From: David W 
 To: Richard Walker ; nat...@sky.com; Leeds List 
 
 Sent: Sunday, 6 August 2017, 15:50
 Subject: Re: [LU] Bye bye Bridcutt ?
   
 Maybe I am wildly over-thinking it, ‎but something to be said for him not 
playing in August to deter Prem League suitors?
I agree though Rich. He is young, talented and the future. Should be in the 
team.  
 
|   From: Richard WalkerSent: Sunday, 6 August 2017 15:48To: David W; 
nat...@sky.com; Leeds ListReply To: Richard WalkerSubject: Re: [LU] Bye bye 
Bridcutt ? |


its nonsense - kid is young and surely wants to play. He hasn't played for 
weeks.



  From: David W 
 To: {broken-address} Richard Walker ; Richard Walker 
; nat...@sky.com; Leeds List  
 Sent: Sunday, 6 August 2017, 15:42
 Subject: Re: [LU] Bye bye Bridcutt ?
  
Phil Hay suggesting may be being rested a bit after a long summer playing for 
England. If that's true, reassuring. Though given there is a 2 week 
international break in about 3 weeks, seems unduly cautious.  

‎
  Original Message  
From: {broken-address} Richard Walker
Sent: Sunday, 6 August 2017 15:40
To: Richard Walker; nat...@sky.com; Leeds List
Reply To: Richard Walker
Subject: Re: [LU] Bye bye Bridcutt ?

no Vierra in 18 - strange. 

From: {broken-address} Richard Walker 

To: "nat...@sky.com" ; Leeds List  
Sent: Sunday, 6 August 2017, 15:33
Subject: Re: [LU] Bye bye Bridcutt ?

Bridcutt on loan was a much better player than when he was permanent last 
season. 
Maybe he looked better next to Lewis Cook ? 

      From: "nat...@sky.com" 
To: Leeds List  
Sent: Sunday, 6 August 2017, 15:24
Subject: [LU] Bye bye Bridcutt ?
  
Seen on twitter that the team / squad have arrived and to quote Phil 
HayBridcutt, Doukara and Antonsson all missing
No surprise re Antonsson and I am sure he will be on his way asap, Doukara has 
flattered to deceive at times and I do think there is a player in there BUT 
again I think we will get rid if we can.
As for Bridcutt , I thought he was fairly poor for a lot of last season.A  lot 
of this was him coming much too deep, but we assumed at the time that he was 
acting under instructions. He is one of those players who can look good and bad 
in the same game and I was surprised how many fans seemed to think getting him 
to sign full time after his loan deal was a big thing . I have always been a 
bit 'meh' about him. He is OK but no match winner and there is better out there 
(hopefully Anita and Klitch plus Viera O'Kane and Phillips will mean we do not 
miss him if he goes)
Hay also suggests, 'a stab' I think he said that the team was basically last 
season with Weidwald and Pennington the only new players starting today (had a 
forward midfield 3 of Dallas, Hernandez and Roofe in front of O'Kane and 
Phillips)

Dave
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Re: [LU] Bye bye Bridcutt ?

[{broken-address} Richard Walker]

well it's better than QPR last season but I suspect we're playing the worst 
team in the league. 
Maybe one too many luxury players in there for me. Hernandez, Roofe and 
Allioski all pretty poor.
their goal - that's how we used to defend for corners pre-Pontus. 
like the look of pennington though - together with pontus will be good. 
worried about Anita playing a left back - he hasn't got a left foot. Beradi 
hasn't either but he doesn't look to have the bollocks that Beradi does. 
Can't complain. 

  From: Jim Moran 
 To: David W ; Leeds List ; 
Richard Walker ; "nat...@sky.com"  
 Sent: Sunday, 6 August 2017, 17:09
 Subject: Re: [LU] Bye bye Bridcutt ?
   
If we're 2 up after 30 minutes every game I would ditch white forever. 
On Sun, 6 Aug 2017 at 16:34, {broken-address} Richard Walker 
 wrote:

playing in black wtf ! 

      From: David W 
 To: Richard Walker ; nat...@sky.com; Leeds List 

 Sent: Sunday, 6 August 2017, 15:50
 Subject: Re: [LU] Bye bye Bridcutt ?

 Maybe I am wildly over-thinking it, ‎but something to be said for him not 
playing in August to deter Prem League suitors?
I agree though Rich. He is young, talented and the future. Should be in the 
team.

|   From: Richard WalkerSent: Sunday, 6 August 2017 15:48To: David W; 
nat...@sky.com; Leeds ListReply To: Richard WalkerSubject: Re: [LU] Bye bye 
Bridcutt ? |


its nonsense - kid is young and surely wants to play. He hasn't played for 
weeks.



      From: David W 
 To: {broken-address} Richard Walker ; Richard Walker 
; nat...@sky.com; Leeds List 
 Sent: Sunday, 6 August 2017, 15:42
 Subject: Re: [LU] Bye bye Bridcutt ?

Phil Hay suggesting may be being rested a bit after a long summer playing for 
England. If that's true, reassuring. Though given there is a 2 week 
international break in about 3 weeks, seems unduly cautious.  

‎
  Original Message  
From: {broken-address} Richard Walker
Sent: Sunday, 6 August 2017 15:40
To: Richard Walker; nat...@sky.com; Leeds List
Reply To: Richard Walker
Subject: Re: [LU] Bye bye Bridcutt ?

no Vierra in 18 - strange. 

From: {broken-address} Richard Walker 

To: "nat...@sky.com" ; Leeds List 
Sent: Sunday, 6 August 2017, 15:33
Subject: Re: [LU] Bye bye Bridcutt ?

Bridcutt on loan was a much better player than when he was permanent last 
season. 
Maybe he looked better next to Lewis Cook ? 

      From: "nat...@sky.com" 
To: Leeds List 
Sent: Sunday, 6 August 2017, 15:24
Subject: [LU] Bye bye Bridcutt ?
 
Seen on twitter that the team / squad have arrived and to quote Phil 
HayBridcutt, Doukara and Antonsson all missing
No surprise re Antonsson and I am sure he will be on his way asap, Doukara has 
flattered to deceive at times and I do think there is a player in there BUT 
again I think we will get rid if we can.
As for Bridcutt , I thought he was fairly poor for a lot of last season.A  lot 
of this was him coming much too deep, but we assumed at the time that he was 
acting under instructions. He is one of those players who can look good and bad 
in the same game and I was surprised how many fans seemed to think getting him 
to sign full time after his loan deal was a big thing . I have always been a 
bit 'meh' about him. He is OK but no match winner and there is better out there 
(hopefully Anita and Klitch plus Viera O'Kane and Phillips will mean we do not 
miss him if he goes)
Hay also suggests, 'a stab' I think he said that the team was basically last 
season with Weidwald and Pennington the only new players starting today (had a 
forward midfield 3 of Dallas, Hernandez and Roofe in front of O'Kane and 
Phillips)

Dave
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Re: [LU] Bye bye Bridcutt ?

[{broken-address} Richard Walker]

Good result against a poor team. 
I think the subs really affected us and we made heavy weather against a bunch 
of journeymen.
here's my scores from armchair (and a few Saltaire Blondes):
Wieldwald - 5. Didn't look like a keeper that's going to command his area which 
is so important in this league. I understand the new manager wanting to bring 
in his keeper especially when Green ain't going to go on for much longer.
Ayling - 9. For me he was our best player. Solid and consistent. 
Beradi - 6. Unfortunate with injury. 
Pennington - 7. Thought he looked really good. Hope his injury isn't a bad one 
because together with Jansson would be good. 
Cooper - 7. Didn't do anything wrong and I think it was a decent captain's 
performance. 
O'Kane - 6. He did ok but I didn't see anything new from last season. Is he a 
better midfielder than Vierra ? I don't think so. 
Philips - 7. Two good goals however I actually think his general play at times 
was poor however he was busy and he was always there so in this games that was 
crucial. Is he a better player than Vierra ? I don't think so. 
Roofe - 6. Again, he did nothing to suggest he's going anything to add from 
last season. Once decent cross for the goal but he generally looks lightweight 
to me , falling over at every opportunity. 
Hernandez- 7 . First half was a typical away performance from him - shite but 
he improved second half and was unlucky with his shot. 
Alioski - 5. Is he a left winger ? Didn't look like it from me. Not sure about 
him.
Wood - 7. Good goal and excellent for our second.I still find him slow and 
ponderous at times. 20 million - you've got to be kidding.
subs:
shaugnessy - what was he playing at ?
Sacko - sack of shito 
good start but nothing much to make me think we're better than last season.  

  From: wayne callaghan 
 To: "richleed...@yahoo.co.uk"  
Cc: "j...@jimmoran.co.uk" ; "davidwool...@gmail.com" 
; "leedslist@gn.apc.org" ; 
"nat...@sky.com" ; 
"richleed...@yahoo.co.uk.is-broken.gn.apc.org" 

 Sent: Sunday, 6 August 2017, 17:47
 Subject: Re: [LU] Bye bye Bridcutt ?
   
Our keeper reminds me of silvestri ... Clueless with crosses.

Wayne

Sent from BlueMailOn 6 Aug 2017, at 17:31, {broken-address} Richard Walker 
 wrote:
well it's better than QPR last season but I suspect we're playing the worst 
team in the league. 
Maybe one too many luxury players in there for me. Hernandez, Roofe and 
Allioski all pretty poor.
their goal - that's how we used to defend for corners pre-Pontus. 
like the look of pennington though - together with pontus will be good. 
worried about Anita playing a left back - he hasn't got a left foot. Beradi 
hasn't either but he doesn't look to have the bollocks that Beradi does. 
Can't complain. 

 From: Jim Moran 
 To: David W ; Leeds List ; 
Richard Walker ; "nat...@sky.com"  
 Sent: Sunday, 6 August 2017, 17:09
 Subject: Re: [LU] Bye bye Bridcutt ?
 
If we're 2 up after 30 minutes every game I would ditch white forever. 
On Sun, 6 Aug 2017 at 16:34, {broken-address} Richard Walker 
 wrote:

playing in black wtf ! 

      From: David W 
 To: Richard Walker ; nat...@sky.com; Leeds List 

 Sent: Sunday, 6 August 2017, 15:50
 Subject: Re: [LU] Bye bye Bridcutt ?

 Maybe I am wildly over-thinking it, ‎but something to be said for him not 
playing in August to deter Prem League suitors?
I agree though Rich. He is young, talented and the future. Should be in the 
team.

|   From: Richard WalkerSent: Sunday, 6 August 2017 15:48To: David W; 
nat...@sky.com; Leeds ListReply To: Richard WalkerSubject: Re: [LU] Bye bye 
Bridcutt ? |


its nonsense - kid is young and surely wants to play. He hasn't played for 
weeks.



      From: David W 
 To: {broken-address} Richard Walker ; Richard Walker 
; nat...@sky.com; Leeds List 
 Sent: Sunday, 6 August 2017, 15:42
 Subject: Re: [LU] Bye bye Bridcutt ?

Phil Hay suggesting may be being rested a bit after a long summer playing for 
England. If that's true, reassuring. Though given there is a 2 week 
international break in about 3 weeks, seems unduly cautious.  

‎
  Original Message  
From: {broken-address} Richard Walker
Sent: Sunday, 6 August 2017 15:40
To: Richard Walker; nat...@sky.com; Leeds List
Reply To: Richard Walker
Subject: Re: [LU] Bye bye Bridcutt ?

no Vierra in 18 - strange. 

From: {broken-address} Richard Walker 

To: "nat...@sky.com" ; Leeds List 
Sent: Sunday, 6 August 2017, 15:33
Subject: Re: [LU] Bye bye Bridcutt ?

Bridcutt on loan was a much better player than when he was permanent last 
season. 
Maybe he looked better next to Lewis Cook ? 

      From: "nat...@sky.com" 
To: Leeds List 
Sent: Sunday, 6 August 2017, 15:24
Subject: [LU] Bye bye Bridcutt ?
 
Seen on twitter that the team / squad have arrived and to quote Phil 
HayBridcut

Re: [LU] Bye bye Bridcutt ?

[{broken-address} Richard Walker]

forgot Anita - 7. I thought he looked composed and maybe he's a midfielder 
rather than a defender

  From: {broken-address} Richard Walker 

 To: wayne callaghan  
Cc: "leedslist@gn.apc.org" ; 
"richleed...@yahoo.co.uk.is-broken.gn.apc.org" 

 Sent: Sunday, 6 August 2017, 18:58
 Subject: Re: [LU] Bye bye Bridcutt ?
   
Good result against a poor team. 
I think the subs really affected us and we made heavy weather against a bunch 
of journeymen.
here's my scores from armchair (and a few Saltaire Blondes):
Wieldwald - 5. Didn't look like a keeper that's going to command his area which 
is so important in this league. I understand the new manager wanting to bring 
in his keeper especially when Green ain't going to go on for much longer.
Ayling - 9. For me he was our best player. Solid and consistent. 
Beradi - 6. Unfortunate with injury. 
Pennington - 7. Thought he looked really good. Hope his injury isn't a bad one 
because together with Jansson would be good. 
Cooper - 7. Didn't do anything wrong and I think it was a decent captain's 
performance. 
O'Kane - 6. He did ok but I didn't see anything new from last season. Is he a 
better midfielder than Vierra ? I don't think so. 
Philips - 7. Two good goals however I actually think his general play at times 
was poor however he was busy and he was always there so in this games that was 
crucial. Is he a better player than Vierra ? I don't think so. 
Roofe - 6. Again, he did nothing to suggest he's going anything to add from 
last season. Once decent cross for the goal but he generally looks lightweight 
to me , falling over at every opportunity. 
Hernandez- 7 . First half was a typical away performance from him - shite but 
he improved second half and was unlucky with his shot. 
Alioski - 5. Is he a left winger ? Didn't look like it from me. Not sure about 
him.
Wood - 7. Good goal and excellent for our second.I still find him slow and 
ponderous at times. 20 million - you've got to be kidding.
subs:
shaugnessy - what was he playing at ?
Sacko - sack of shito 
good start but nothing much to make me think we're better than last season.  

      From: wayne callaghan 
 To: "richleed...@yahoo.co.uk"  
Cc: "j...@jimmoran.co.uk" ; "davidwool...@gmail.com" 
; "leedslist@gn.apc.org" ; 
"nat...@sky.com" ; 
"richleed...@yahoo.co.uk.is-broken.gn.apc.org" 

 Sent: Sunday, 6 August 2017, 17:47
 Subject: Re: [LU] Bye bye Bridcutt ?
  
Our keeper reminds me of silvestri ... Clueless with crosses.

Wayne

Sent from BlueMailOn 6 Aug 2017, at 17:31, {broken-address} Richard Walker 
 wrote:
well it's better than QPR last season but I suspect we're playing the worst 
team in the league. 
Maybe one too many luxury players in there for me. Hernandez, Roofe and 
Allioski all pretty poor.
their goal - that's how we used to defend for corners pre-Pontus. 
like the look of pennington though - together with pontus will be good. 
worried about Anita playing a left back - he hasn't got a left foot. Beradi 
hasn't either but he doesn't look to have the bollocks that Beradi does. 
Can't complain. 

 From: Jim Moran 
 To: David W ; Leeds List ; 
Richard Walker ; "nat...@sky.com"  
 Sent: Sunday, 6 August 2017, 17:09
 Subject: Re: [LU] Bye bye Bridcutt ?
 
If we're 2 up after 30 minutes every game I would ditch white forever. 
On Sun, 6 Aug 2017 at 16:34, {broken-address} Richard Walker 
 wrote:

playing in black wtf ! 

      From: David W 
 To: Richard Walker ; nat...@sky.com; Leeds List 

 Sent: Sunday, 6 August 2017, 15:50
 Subject: Re: [LU] Bye bye Bridcutt ?

 Maybe I am wildly over-thinking it, ‎but something to be said for him not 
playing in August to deter Prem League suitors?
I agree though Rich. He is young, talented and the future. Should be in the 
team.

|   From: Richard WalkerSent: Sunday, 6 August 2017 15:48To: David W; 
nat...@sky.com; Leeds ListReply To: Richard WalkerSubject: Re: [LU] Bye bye 
Bridcutt ? |


its nonsense - kid is young and surely wants to play. He hasn't played for 
weeks.



      From: David W 
 To: {broken-address} Richard Walker ; Richard Walker 
; nat...@sky.com; Leeds List 
 Sent: Sunday, 6 August 2017, 15:42
 Subject: Re: [LU] Bye bye Bridcutt ?

Phil Hay suggesting may be being rested a bit after a long summer playing for 
England. If that's true, reassuring. Though given there is a 2 week 
international break in about 3 weeks, seems unduly cautious.  

‎
  Original Message  
From: {broken-address} Richard Walker
Sent: Sunday, 6 August 2017 15:40
To: Richard Walker; nat...@sky.com; Leeds List
Reply To: Richard Walker
Subject: Re: [LU] Bye bye Bridcutt ?

no Vierra in 18 - strange. 

From: {broken-address} Richard Walker 

To: "nat...@sky.com" ; Leeds List 
Sent: Sunday, 6 August 2017, 15:33
Subject: Re: [LU] 

Re: [LU] Bye bye Bridcutt ?

[{broken-address} Richard Walker]

it was a shit post match interview with Radio Leeds - he sounds like Joe 
Pasqueli. 

  From: Andy Brown 
 To: Richard Walker  
Cc: wayne callaghan ; "leedslist@gn.apc.org" 
; "richleed...@yahoo.co.uk.is-broken.gn.apc.org" 

 Sent: Sunday, 6 August 2017, 19:05
 Subject: Re: [LU] Bye bye Bridcutt ?
   
Ayling far and away our best. Wood has come on so much and I actually enjoyed 
watching him.

Pre-season excitement hasn't been fully beaten out of me.

What did TC say after? Hopefully 3 points, lucky they were shit and I'll 
prioritise what to fix.

Sent from my iPhone

> On 6 Aug 2017, at 18:54, {broken-address} Richard Walker 
>  wrote:
> 
> Good result against a poor team. 
> I think the subs really affected us and we made heavy weather against a bunch 
> of journeymen.
> here's my scores from armchair (and a few Saltaire Blondes):
> Wieldwald - 5. Didn't look like a keeper that's going to command his area 
> which is so important in this league. I understand the new manager wanting to 
> bring in his keeper especially when Green ain't going to go on for much 
> longer.
> Ayling - 9. For me he was our best player. Solid and consistent. 
> Beradi - 6. Unfortunate with injury. 
> Pennington - 7. Thought he looked really good. Hope his injury isn't a bad 
> one because together with Jansson would be good. 
> Cooper - 7. Didn't do anything wrong and I think it was a decent captain's 
> performance. 
> O'Kane - 6. He did ok but I didn't see anything new from last season. Is he a 
> better midfielder than Vierra ? I don't think so. 
> Philips - 7. Two good goals however I actually think his general play at 
> times was poor however he was busy and he was always there so in this games 
> that was crucial. Is he a better player than Vierra ? I don't think so. 
> Roofe - 6. Again, he did nothing to suggest he's going anything to add from 
> last season. Once decent cross for the goal but he generally looks 
> lightweight to me , falling over at every opportunity. 
> Hernandez- 7 . First half was a typical away performance from him - shite but 
> he improved second half and was unlucky with his shot. 
> Alioski - 5. Is he a left winger ? Didn't look like it from me. Not sure 
> about him.
> Wood - 7. Good goal and excellent for our second.I still find him slow and 
> ponderous at times. 20 million - you've got to be kidding.
> subs:
> shaugnessy - what was he playing at ?
> Sacko - sack of shito 
> good start but nothing much to make me think we're better than last season.  
> 
>      From: wayne callaghan 
> To: "richleed...@yahoo.co.uk"  
> Cc: "j...@jimmoran.co.uk" ; "davidwool...@gmail.com" 
> ; "leedslist@gn.apc.org" ; 
> "nat...@sky.com" ; 
> "richleed...@yahoo.co.uk.is-broken.gn.apc.org" 
> 
> Sent: Sunday, 6 August 2017, 17:47
> Subject: Re: [LU] Bye bye Bridcutt ?
> 
> Our keeper reminds me of silvestri ... Clueless with crosses.
> 
> Wayne
> 
> Sent from BlueMailOn 6 Aug 2017, at 17:31, {broken-address} Richard Walker 
>  wrote:
> well it's better than QPR last season but I suspect we're playing the worst 
> team in the league. 
> Maybe one too many luxury players in there for me. Hernandez, Roofe and 
> Allioski all pretty poor.
> their goal - that's how we used to defend for corners pre-Pontus. 
> like the look of pennington though - together with pontus will be good. 
> worried about Anita playing a left back - he hasn't got a left foot. Beradi 
> hasn't either but he doesn't look to have the bollocks that Beradi does. 
> Can't complain. 
> 
> From: Jim Moran 
> To: David W ; Leeds List ; 
> Richard Walker ; "nat...@sky.com"  
> Sent: Sunday, 6 August 2017, 17:09
> Subject: Re: [LU] Bye bye Bridcutt ?
> 
> If we're 2 up after 30 minutes every game I would ditch white forever. 
> On Sun, 6 Aug 2017 at 16:34, {broken-address} Richard Walker 
>  wrote:
> 
> playing in black wtf ! 
> 
>      From: David W 
>  To: Richard Walker ; nat...@sky.com; Leeds List 
>
>  Sent: Sunday, 6 August 2017, 15:50
>  Subject: Re: [LU] Bye bye Bridcutt ?
> 
>  Maybe I am wildly over-thinking it, but something to be said for him not 
>playing in August to deter Prem League suitors?
> I agree though Rich. He is young, talented and the future. Should be in the 
> team.
> 
> |  From: Richard WalkerSent: Sunday, 6 August 2017 15:48To: David W; 
> nat...@sky.com; Leeds ListReply To: Richard WalkerSubject: Re: [LU] Bye bye 
> Bridcutt ? |
> 
> 
> its nonsense - kid is young and surely wants to play. He hasn't played for 
> weeks.
> 
&g

Re: [LU] Team v Stoke North

[{broken-address} Richard Walker]

big game cos if we lose then we will all question whether all these signings 
are just a sack of shit. 
unfortuantely won't be there due to working in glasgow - anyone got a audio 
stream ?

  From: Richard Naef 
 To: "'leeds list (leedslist@gn.apc.org)'"  
 Sent: Wednesday, 9 August 2017, 19:08
 Subject: [LU] Team v Stoke North
   
Leeds united
Wiedwald, Ayling, Shaughnessy, Borthwick-Jackson, Anita, Vieira, Klich, Dallas, 
Saiz, Sacko, Ekuban

Subs
Peacock-Farrell, Phillips, Bridcutt, Gomes, Hernandez, Wood, Alioski



ttfn

Richard

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Re: [LU] Team v Stoke North

[{broken-address} Richard Walker]

yep got Radio Leeds stream and Popey and Whelan loving it 
Saiz looking good 
and the lad from scum looking good 

  From: David W 
 To: wayne callaghan ; Richard Walker 
; leedslist@gn.apc.org 
 Sent: Wednesday, 9 August 2017, 20:06
 Subject: Re: [LU] Team v Stoke North
   
1-0. 

Dallas cross came back out of post. Calm Control and finish by Saiz

Started well. Good football.

Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone.
  Original Message  
From: wayne callaghan
Sent: Wednesday, 9 August 2017 19:53
To: Richard Walker; leedslist@gn.apc.org
Subject: Re: [LU] Team v Stoke North

Video link
http://goolbizz.blogspot.co.uk/2017/08/leeds-united-port-vale-fc.html

Sent from Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows 10

From: {broken-address} Richard 
Walker<mailto:richleed...@yahoo.co.uk.is-broken.gn.apc.org>
Sent: 09 August 2017 19:34
To: Richard Naef<mailto:rich...@triumph-computers.co.uk>; 'leeds list 
(leedslist@gn.apc.org)'<mailto:leedslist@gn.apc.org>
Subject: Re: [LU] Team v Stoke North

big game cos if we lose then we will all question whether all these signings 
are just a sack of shit.
unfortuantely won't be there due to working in glasgow - anyone got a audio 
stream ?

From: Richard Naef 
To: "'leeds list (leedslist@gn.apc.org)'" 
Sent: Wednesday, 9 August 2017, 19:08
Subject: [LU] Team v Stoke North

Leeds united
Wiedwald, Ayling, Shaughnessy, Borthwick-Jackson, Anita, Vieira, Klich, Dallas, 
Saiz, Sacko, Ekuban

Subs
Peacock-Farrell, Phillips, Bridcutt, Gomes, Hernandez, Wood, Alioski



ttfn

Richard

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Re: [LU] Team v Stoke North

[{broken-address} Richard Walker]

sounds like Eukuban is just as bad
f'cking Micheal Tonge !!!

  From: Michael Benjamin 
 To: Richard Walker ; wayne callaghan 
; "leedslist@gn.apc.org" ; David 
W  
 Sent: Wednesday, 9 August 2017, 20:23
 Subject: Re: [LU] Team v Stoke North
   
#yiv8903406107 #yiv8903406107 -- .yiv8903406107EmailQuote 
{margin-left:1pt;padding-left:4pt;border-left:#80 2px solid;}#yiv8903406107 
Why is Sacko on the pitch? 

Dr. Michael Benjamin
From: Leedslist  on behalf of David W 

Sent: Wednesday, August 9, 2017 10:22:19 PM
To: Richard Walker; wayne callaghan; leedslist@gn.apc.org
Subject: Re: [LU] Team v Stoke North 
   1-1. Sloppy marking from a nothing long throw. They've barely been in
   our half.

   Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone.

   From: Richard Walker
   Sent: Wednesday, 9 August 2017 20:15
   To: David W; wayne callaghan; leedslist@gn.apc.org
   Reply To: Richard Walker
   Subject: Re: [LU] Team v Stoke North

   yep got Radio Leeds stream and Popey and Whelan loving it
   Saiz looking good
   and the lad from scum looking good
 __

   From: David W 
   To: wayne callaghan ; Richard Walker
   ; leedslist@gn.apc.org
   Sent: Wednesday, 9 August 2017, 20:06
   Subject: Re: [LU] Team v Stoke North
   1-0.
   Dallas cross came back out of post. Calm Control and finish by Saiz
   Started well. Good football.
   Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone.
 Original Message
   From: wayne callaghan
   Sent: Wednesday, 9 August 2017 19:53
   To: Richard Walker; [1]leedslist@gn.apc.org
   Subject: Re: [LU] Team v Stoke North
   Video link
   [2]http://goolbizz.blogspot.co.uk/2017/08/leeds-united-port-vale-fc.htm
   l
   Sent from Mail<[3]https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for
   Windows 10
   From: {broken-address} Richard
   Walker<mailto:[4]richleed...@yahoo.co.uk.is-broken.gn.apc.org>
   Sent: 09 August 2017 19:34
   To: Richard Naef<mailto:[5]rich...@triumph-computers.co.uk>; 'leeds
   list ([6]leedslist@gn.apc.org)'<mailto:[7]leedslist@gn.apc.org>
   Subject: Re: [LU] Team v Stoke North
   big game cos if we lose then we will all question whether all these
   signings are just a sack of shit.
   unfortuantely won't be there due to working in glasgow - anyone got a
   audio stream ?
   From: Richard Naef <[8]rich...@triumph-computers.co.uk>
   To: "'leeds list ([9]leedslist@gn.apc.org)'" <[10]leedslist@gn.apc.org>
   Sent: Wednesday, 9 August 2017, 19:08
   Subject: [LU] Team v Stoke North
   Leeds united
   Wiedwald, Ayling, Shaughnessy, Borthwick-Jackson, Anita, Vieira, Klich,
   Dallas, Saiz, Sacko, Ekuban
   Subs
   Peacock-Farrell, Phillips, Bridcutt, Gomes, Hernandez, Wood, Alioski
   ttfn
   Richard
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Re: [LU] Team v Stoke North

[{broken-address} Richard Walker]

noel whelan wants to adopt him. 

  From: David W 
 To: Richard Walker ; Michael Benjamin 
; wayne callaghan ; 
leedslist@gn.apc.org 
 Sent: Wednesday, 9 August 2017, 21:11
 Subject: Re: [LU] Team v Stoke North
   
 3-1. Saiz hat-trick. He is a bit special.  
  Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone. 
|   From: Richard WalkerSent: Wednesday, 9 August 2017 20:34To: Michael 
Benjamin; wayne callaghan; leedslist@gn.apc.org; David WReply To: Richard 
WalkerSubject: Re: [LU] Team v Stoke North |


sounds like Eukuban is just as bad
f'cking Micheal Tonge !!!

  From: Michael Benjamin 
 To: Richard Walker ; wayne callaghan 
; "leedslist@gn.apc.org" ; David 
W  
 Sent: Wednesday, 9 August 2017, 20:23
 Subject: Re: [LU] Team v Stoke North
  
#yiv0019325311 -- .yiv0019325311EmailQuote 
{margin-left:1pt;padding-left:4pt;border-left:#80 2px solid;}#yiv0019325311 
Why is Sacko on the pitch? 

Dr. Michael Benjamin
From: Leedslist  on behalf of David W 

Sent: Wednesday, August 9, 2017 10:22:19 PM
To: Richard Walker; wayne callaghan; leedslist@gn.apc.org
Subject: Re: [LU] Team v Stoke North 
   1-1. Sloppy marking from a nothing long throw. They've barely been in
   our half.

   Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone.

   From: Richard Walker
   Sent: Wednesday, 9 August 2017 20:15
   To: David W; wayne callaghan; leedslist@gn.apc.org
   Reply To: Richard Walker
   Subject: Re: [LU] Team v Stoke North

   yep got Radio Leeds stream and Popey and Whelan loving it
   Saiz looking good
   and the lad from scum looking good
 __

   From: David W 
   To: wayne callaghan ; Richard Walker
   ; leedslist@gn.apc.org
   Sent: Wednesday, 9 August 2017, 20:06
   Subject: Re: [LU] Team v Stoke North
   1-0.
   Dallas cross came back out of post. Calm Control and finish by Saiz
   Started well. Good football.
   Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone.
 Original Message
   From: wayne callaghan
   Sent: Wednesday, 9 August 2017 19:53
   To: Richard Walker; [1]leedslist@gn.apc.org
   Subject: Re: [LU] Team v Stoke North
   Video link
   [2]http://goolbizz.blogspot.co.uk/2017/08/leeds-united-port-vale-fc.htm
   l
   Sent from Mail<[3]https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for
   Windows 10
   From: {broken-address} Richard
   Walker<mailto:[4]richleed...@yahoo.co.uk.is-broken.gn.apc.org>
   Sent: 09 August 2017 19:34
   To: Richard Naef<mailto:[5]rich...@triumph-computers.co.uk>; 'leeds
   list ([6]leedslist@gn.apc.org)'<mailto:[7]leedslist@gn.apc.org>
   Subject: Re: [LU] Team v Stoke North
   big game cos if we lose then we will all question whether all these
   signings are just a sack of shit.
   unfortuantely won't be there due to working in glasgow - anyone got a
   audio stream ?
   From: Richard Naef <[8]rich...@triumph-computers.co.uk>
   To: "'leeds list ([9]leedslist@gn.apc.org)'" <[10]leedslist@gn.apc.org>
   Sent: Wednesday, 9 August 2017, 19:08
   Subject: [LU] Team v Stoke North
   Leeds united
   Wiedwald, Ayling, Shaughnessy, Borthwick-Jackson, Anita, Vieira, Klich,
   Dallas, Saiz, Sacko, Ekuban
   Subs
   Peacock-Farrell, Phillips, Bridcutt, Gomes, Hernandez, Wood, Alioski
   ttfn
   Richard
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Re: [LU] Saiz

[{broken-address} Richard Walker]

Will he start on Saturday though ? The old dilemma of changing a winning team ? 
Also did he spit at an opponent and if he did should we get rid ? 

  From: David Nattan 
 To: leedslist@gn.apc.org 
 Sent: Wednesday, 9 August 2017, 23:35
 Subject: [LU] Saiz
   
Best debut ever? I think shutt got a hat trick on his debut? If I am right he 
was not as good as saiz tonight. Will do report when I get home- probably 
tomorrow- but WOW he was brilliant. Was only 4th division team but even so. . . 
. Need to nail my feet to floor so don't get carrired away

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Re: [LU] Port Vale - the Samu Saiz show

[{broken-address} Richard Walker]

Good report Dave but remember they are 4th Division (Tonge and Pugh for god's 
sake) : ) 
and Tonge scored !!

  From: "nat...@sky.com" 
 To: Leeds List  
 Sent: Thursday, 10 August 2017, 10:57
 Subject: [LU] Port Vale - the Samu Saiz show
   
I have to keep saying "it was only a 4th Division team, it was only a 4th 
Division team" - and maybe not even their best 11, because if not I will need 
those nails to keep my feet on the floor.This was a good a performance second 
half as I have ever seen. It would be sacrilege to put it on a par with the 
Southampton 7 0 but it was this teams equivalent as we tore Port Vale apart and 
had them chasing shadows and trying to kick us off the park.
I cannot remember anyone playing in his debut impressing as much as Saiz did 
last night (it was only a 4th division team) as from start to finish he 
controlled the game, beating players, selling dummies, threading beautiful 
passes through and scoring a brilliant hat trick (it was only a 4th Division 
team).  Those of us who were there (a healthy 15,000) saw history in the making 
- either the start of something special or the brightest of false dawns.
 I was still in the pub when I got a text from my son telling me the line ups 
and that it was an 'odd team'- when I pointed out that apart from maybe Ayling 
at centre back - I did suggest this but as a replacement for Shaughnessey not 
Cooper- and Vieira playing it was the line up I had asked for on here, he 
replied "yeah but you are on drugs" - So it was a team that was a bit 
mis-matched.
We started Ok with CBJ fitting in very well at left back, Klitch showing he 
will be decent for us, Sacko and Dallas running down the wings and Saiz pulling 
a few strings. So often in the past when we have played lower league teams we 
start Ok then after 15minutes they realise we are not very good and get dragged 
down to their level, not last night. On the quarter hour mark Dallas romped 
down the wing and put in a cross cum shot. It hit the bar and as the Port Vale 
players just stood there watching (I wondered if the whistle had gone for 
something) Saiz waited for the ball to come to him, he controlled with one 
touch and then hammered it home in off the post. Decent finsih but poor 
defending.
We then controlled the game and had a few long range shots,CBJ, dallas and 
Ekuban all chancing their arm. Then for almost the fisrt time in the match Vale 
got the ball in our half, took a long throw into the box, a bit of head tennis 
and then it fell to Tonguey who fired home. Normal business as we went in at 
half time level.
Second half we continured to control the game and were camped in their half, 
and the feeling was it was jsut a matter of time before we scored.  Alioski 
came on, this time on the right side here he belongs and from then on him and 
saiz gave us a master class (4th Division opposition) with help from Vieira 
Ekuban and the recently introduced Bridcutt (doing enough to convince TC ?) 

The second came when a lovely ball from Vieira found Saiz who controlled it 
took it round the keeper and hit home- equisite finish (4th Div opponents)  We 
continued to dominate and rip them apart culminating with Saiz hat trick as he 
was fed by Ekuban and he hammered it into the top corner. 2 in 2 minutes for 
our new hero and a debut hat trick - amazing (4th Division opposition)
We were not finished yet - this game had two more 'make me smile' moments - 
first the goal of the game, they had a corner one of our lot lot played it 
towards the wing where Alioski was waiting, he took it and took it and took it, 
running the length of the field chased and harried by two defenders, but 
defenders who could not really get near him. At the edge of their box he 
stopped, looked up and played the ball across towards the onrushing Leeds 
players, Saiz decided that 3 goals was enough for him and instead of shooting 
he opened his legs and let the ball go through to Ekuban who had also run the 
length of the pitch to keep up with play and he fired home - a good finish and 
one that can only help him settle in- a brilliant goal, superb from all three 
of the new boys, Alioski Saiz and Ekuban
It was all too much for Browneys boys and one of them was so fed up of us 
taking the piss that he just chopped Alioski down and literally saw red.
So a new hero (or two with Alioski) is born (yeah, 4th division..) and if I was 
Keemar Roofe or Hernandez I would be very worried - they need to raise their 
game or it is bye bye first team. I saw TC say that Saiz needs some time to 
build up for this League but soon, very soon, Saiz will be the number 10 and 
Alioski will be on the right wing, and together they will rip this league apart.
As for the alleged spitting, no-one in the ground saw anything or knew that 
something had supposedly occurred. There is a good video from Walmot 3 showing 
Brown on the bench from the 40th minute and there is nothing in his demeanour 
to suggest he was annoyed or ups

Re: [LU] Satdi team?

[{broken-address} Richard Walker]

Beradi and Pennington are knackered 
So Cooper would come in For Pennington. 
I like you team though could we get away with playing Hernandez and Saiz ? 
(Hernandez instead of Bridcutt in tour line up). Personally I'd play Bridcutt 
in front of Philips despite his 2 goals but that aint going to happen. 



  From: Richard Naef 
 To: "leedslist@gn.apc.org"  
 Sent: Friday, 11 August 2017, 10:09
 Subject: [LU] Satdi team?
   
Assuming everyone is fit;

Green
Ayling Pennington Jannson B-J
Alioski Vieria Bridcutt Phillips Saiz
Wood

Hate to leave Beradi out, but Borthwick-Jackson looks pretty good going forward

ttfn

Richard

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Re: [LU] Satdi team?

[{broken-address} Richard Walker]

I think some of Hernandez's home performances have been the best of the last 10 
years but some of his away performances have been dire, almost like someone who 
has never kicked a ball before (Viduka used to be a bit like that at times - 
looked like a rugby player playing the wrong sport). His second half 
performance against Bolton was encouraging though and he was unlucky not to 
score but I think you've got to play a guy who has just bagged a hat-trick from 
midfield on his debut even if it was against 4th division opposition. 
Certainly interesting. 

  From: Richard Naef 
 To: "leedslist@gn.apc.org"  
 Sent: Friday, 11 August 2017, 10:54
 Subject: Re: [LU] Satdi team?
   
I Haven’t seen enough of Saiz and Alioski to know if they are “luxury” players 
or would get stuck in enough.  Never been 100% convinced by Hernandez, although 
I read he had one of the highest assist rates last season.  I think the safer 
option is to keep him until later on in the game.  I’m not sure that he’ll take 
well to being a supersub tho.

ttfn

Richard

From: Richard Walker [mailto:richleed...@yahoo.co.uk]
Sent: 11 August 2017 10:23
To: Richard Naef ; leedslist@gn.apc.org
Subject: Re: [LU] Satdi team?

Beradi and Pennington are knackered

So Cooper would come in For Pennington.

I like you team though could we get away with playing Hernandez and Saiz ? 
(Hernandez instead of Bridcutt in tour line up). Personally I'd play Bridcutt 
in front of Philips despite his 2 goals but that aint going to happen.



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Re: [LU] Satdi team?

[{broken-address} Richard Walker]

"Wiedwald has Green behind him"
Not sure he does Dave ! Green apparently ruled himself out through injury, TC's 
interview revealing that it was a surprise to TC and almost certainly was a 
case of Green spitting his dummy out. And we all thought he was the ultimate 
professional. I wonder if he'll get the same stick as the Italians did when 
they collectively pulled a stunt like this a few seasons ago ? 
and I don't think the performance against a poor Bolton was good enough to 
warrant the statement that a winning team should never be changed.  You play 
your best team or the best team to beat the opposition - end of.  

  From: "nat...@sky.com" 
 To: Leeds List  
 Sent: Friday, 11 August 2017, 11:01
 Subject: Re: [LU] Satdi team?
   
Sorry to disappoint lads, but TC will stick with the same starting XI as at 
Bolton except Pennington and Berardi are injured so will be replaced by Jansson 
and Borthwick-JacksonNo chance of Green being picked and whilst i, like most 
fans, think Vieira is better than Phillips I do think he did enough at Bolton 
to keep his place. As for Saiz, whilst you may expect his hat trick on 
Wednesday and his all round performance to warrant a place, TC's comments about 
getting him ready for this league suggests otherwise.
So whilst Saiz, Bridcutt and Vieira all did their cause some good on Wednesday 
I doubt they will be chosen - what it will mean is that  the likes of O'Kane, 
Phillips, Roofe and Hernandez had better be on their game, because any drop in 
their performance will mean they will be dropped
To be fair every single player (Pontus and Cooper excepted till Pennington is 
fit) is playing for his place every game and has an able deputy just waiting 
for the chance - 

Wiedwald has Green behind him - Ayling and Borthwick J have Berardi, when fit, 
and Anita breathing down their neck. The 2 in midfield know Vieira Bridcutt and 
the highly rated Klitch are just waiting for a chance. The wingers (Roofe and 
Alioski) need only look on the bench to see Sacko and Dallas chomping at the 
bit. Hernandez will have watched Saiz on Wednesday and worry his own days are 
numbered. 
Even Wood is under some pressure from Ekuban , who scored one and laid on 
another on Wednesday , so a long dry run and Wood will be dropped
For the first time in a long time we have genuine competition for places all 
over the team

Dave

      From: {broken-address} Richard Walker 

 To: Richard Naef ; "leedslist@gn.apc.org" 
 
 Sent: Friday, 11 August 2017, 10:27
 Subject: Re: [LU] Satdi team?
  
Beradi and Pennington are knackered 
So Cooper would come in For Pennington. 
I like you team though could we get away with playing Hernandez and Saiz ? 
(Hernandez instead of Bridcutt in tour line up). Personally I'd play Bridcutt 
in front of Philips despite his 2 goals but that aint going to happen. 



      From: Richard Naef 
 To: "leedslist@gn.apc.org"  
 Sent: Friday, 11 August 2017, 10:09
 Subject: [LU] Satdi team?
  
Assuming everyone is fit;

Green
Ayling Pennington Jannson B-J
Alioski Vieria Bridcutt Phillips Saiz
Wood

Hate to leave Beradi out, but Borthwick-Jackson looks pretty good going forward

ttfn

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[LU] Preston

[{broken-address} Richard Walker]

Unbeaten in 3 and a clean sheet - good start ? F'ck that, yesterday we were 
shite and deserved nothing against a lively but average Preston team. 
The day started well in the sun with plenty of smiles and optimism in the 4 
pubs I visited but around 2:15 things started to go downhill as we ventured 
down to the't our  Queens Hall to get the P2. Apparently (so one of the 
stewards informed us) the buses had been leased out to another company for the 
first two games so 'they aren't our buses and aren't our drivers' - great ! It 
was a farce and the police had to step in to avoid confrontations as people 
realised that they were going to miss the kick off. We managed to get there 
just in time for kick off but hundreds didn't.
They didn't miss anything because right from the off you could see that we had 
nothing to offer and were being outplayed by a Preston team who seemed highly 
organised and competitive. We went with the same team as against Bolton (yawn). 
Why has TC adopted Gary Monk's tactics ? Doesn't he have his own and doesn't he 
realise that these are the tactics that failed us so disastrously towards the 
end of the last season. 
We line up with a 4-3-3 with two guys playing as wingers who aren't wingers and 
on that performance aren't good enough. Roofe has never been good enough and he 
really should be returned to the 4th division. Lightweight and unable to win 
50:50 battles, he was just muscled out at every opportunity by the Preston 
defender. He also has no pace, plays with his socks half up and just looks like 
someone from the crowd who has come on to have a game. Rubbish. Allioski also 
doesn't look comfortable to me on the wing. He was more lively than Roofe but 
he didn't make anything happen. Wood was playing on his own against 2 strong 
centre backs. I know there's people on here who think Wood is God but he could 
do little today in that formation and when he did get a good chance he fluffed 
it in spectacular style. I would have done better with the one on one. 
However, the attack can't do much when there's no midfield behind them. It was 
clear to me that Bolton gave us the run of the pitch last week. Yes Philips, 
Hernandez and O'Kane had all the space in the world to get forward and dance 
around with all the time in the world. It was obvious to me that today would be 
different and in game we played last season and this season a midfield of those 
3 would not be good enough and we will lose. Good luck to Phillips he got his 4 
year contract on the back of that performance , I would have dropped him 100% 
for this game and anyone who has watched Leeds for the past 12 months will tell 
you that Philips is behind Vierra and Bridcutt when it comes to ability and 
midfield nouse. O'Kane tried but showed he's just a journeyman with nothing in 
his locker.
At the back we started really shakily with Jansson looking like he'd enjoyed 
his break a little too much and our top man Ayling stuggling at right back. 
They did improve and overall apart from shaky moments late on when they 
threatened to win it with ten men we looked ok. 
As for the game, first half - nothing to report from both teams with neither 
keeper making a save. Second half, TC dragged the hapless Philips and Roofe off 
(credit for spotting they were struggling) and replaced with Saiz and Vierra. 
We looked better and started to create some chances. Wood squandered the one on 
one, missed a couple of headers and showed his lack of ability when he failed 
to direct a volley on target after it being teed up for him. Their keeper made 
a decent double save from someone (?). 
They then got a man sent off and went in to defensive mode. Saiz came on and 
tried to make things happen - Thomas Brolin for me and he looks a little small 
to make an impact. Let's see. Vierra just passed square balls around. 
They then realised that we had nothing to offer and decided to counter attack 
and nearly nicked it at the end with two great chances one of which hit the bar 
with our keeper flat footed. 
Booes rang out at the end from the Kop and someone behind commented that's the 
last for him this season at £34 a time. Don't blame the fella , it was awful. 
Scores:
Felix - 3. The only real difference in tactics I can see TC has brought is that 
he wants his keeper to play football and intelligent balls from the back. That 
includes little chips , long throws and the like. It doesn't fucking work 
Thomas in this league. We're not good enough to take those balls down control 
them and start an attack. Just fucking hoof the cunt ! Not picking Rob Green 
for me is the worst decision of all. 
Ayling - 6. Shaky start but then got back to playing as solid as we expect. 
Scum Lad - 6. I thought he did ok and it was good to see a left back with a 
left foot. I think he'll be an asset when the team starts to produce. 
Jansson - 7. Again after shaky start I thought he played well and did a lot of 
good defensive work that was needed. 
Cooper - 5

Re: [LU] Buses at Preston game -club need telling

[{broken-address} Richard Walker]

we normally just jump in a taxi and will probably go back to that mode of 
transport given the farce on Saturday. 
the most ludicrous thing about it was when the police arrived and rather than 
listening to and trying alleviate the problem they just lined up and filmed the 
irate fans - and obviously got more abuse than they bargained for. Useless 
policing, 
  From: "nat...@sky.com" 
 To: Leeds List  
 Sent: Monday, 14 August 2017, 13:33
 Subject: [LU] Buses at Preston game -club need telling
   
as both myself and Rich pointed out there was a major issue with the special 
match bus on saturday
If you were there and got the bus you will know all about it. Myself and one of 
my mates have emailed the club asking them to do what they can to get it sorted 
(I have also messaged the LUST with similar complaint
I suggest Rich and anyone else who uses the bus also complains - if things do 
not improve and quickly we are going to be faced with the' Arsenal factor' 
where literally thousands of fans leave with 10-15minutes to go so they can get 
home.
I am already concerned about the game tomorrow, if I have to wait the same 
amount of time as on Saturday then I will miss my train back to M/Cr, and end 
up on a much later one that means me and my lad having to fork out £15 (£20 for 
him) to get taxis home OR leave before the end, something I absolutely hate 
doing !
Dave
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[LU] Fulham

[{broken-address} Richard Walker]

Fulham are a class above and look like a team , we are scrapping for everything.
but they play so open we are still in it.
best chance to us - another Wood one on one but flat footed striker thought he 
was \berkamp as he tried to chip keeper -laughable
fulham hit post 
weird team selection 
saughnessy done ok apart from his passing 

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Re: [LU] Fulham

[{broken-address} Richard Walker]

thought we played well second half.
Wood was the weak link for me and the subs were poor (bringing on Roofe !!??)
why has TC adopted Monk's one striker at home. I woul dhave subbed Wood but 
surely Ekuban should have come on to give a different option either in place or 
alongside our flat footed striker.
Shaugnessy looks like a prospect to me but I think both full backs showed a 
lack of pace tonight - they were playing against very pacey wingers.
they didn't create that much and if they're certs for top 6 I don't think we'll 
be far behind. 

  From: David W 
 To: David Boocock ; Michael Benjamin  
Cc: leedslist@gn.apc.org; {broken-address} 

 Sent: Tuesday, 15 August 2017, 22:27
 Subject: Re: [LU] Fulham
   
Oh come on. Cardiff and Ipswich are 2 of those 3. Being a bit of a drama Queen 
there.


  Original Message  
From: David Boocock
Sent: Tuesday, 15 August 2017 23:08
To: Michael Benjamin
Cc: leedslist@gn.apc.org; {broken-address}
Subject: Re: [LU] Fulham

Not a good look, the top 3 teams are already a win and a draw ahead of the
pack.

Dave
On 16/08/2017 6:43 AM, "Michael Benjamin"  wrote:

> An awful match. Nothing positive to say.
> If Cellimo was here, our coach would be sacked.
> A truly abysmal game followimg a lousy one on Saturday
>
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> |To: richleed...@yahoo.co.uk; leedslist@gn.apc.org
> |Subject: Re: [LU] Fulham
> |
> |Our defense look like what they are - five players still getting used to
> each other.
> |Also, there comes a point when "playing your way out of trouble" doesn't
> make
> |sense, and we have reached that point several times this half.
> |
> |
> |In addition, our flair players (Alioski, Saiz and, especially, Hernandez)
> get
> |muscled off the ball too frequently.
> |
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> |Sent: Tue, Aug 15, 2017 3:42 pm
> |Subject: [LU] Fulham
> |
> |Fulham are a class above and look like a team , we are scrapping for
> |everything.but they play so open we are still in it.best chance to us -
> another
> |Wood one on one but flat footed striker thought he was \berkamp as he
> tried to
> |chip keeper -laughablefulham hit post weird team selection saughnessy
> done ok
> |apart from his passing
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Re: [LU] Fulham

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I think we can forget about Wood's 'goal' Ted - the linesman had his flag up 
early and they completely stopped. 

  From: Ted 
 To: "nat...@sky.com"  
Cc: Leeds List 
 Sent: Wednesday, 16 August 2017, 7:58I thin
 Subject: Re: [LU] Fulham
   
Dave wrote:

> fans saw us pass the ball around a bit but have no shots or chances
> worthy of the name.


And the Doctor wrote:
An awful match. Nothing positive to say.
If Cellimo was here, our coach would be sacked.
A truly abysmal game followimg a lousy one on Saturday


Sorry but I've got to disagree slightly Dave - I usually agree fully with
your reports but what about Wood's one-on-one miss?  And his "goal" was
apparently on-side. Plus Aylings shot that went just wide and Dallas'
shot/pass that got deflected at the death, just to go agonisingly past the
reach of Wood.
For a nil-nil, I thought it was a pretty good game - both teams could have
pinched it and after the first 20 minutes (where we didn't get a look in)
we seemed to play okay - I thought we looked pretty dangerous on the
attack.  Siaz was everywhere, Alionski gave them trouble and Shaunesseey
looked pretty assured for a newbie - his latch ditch tackle at the end was
a match winning tackle.
If we play with that tempo against most teams in this division, we'll beat
most.

As for the Doctor's comments, WTF?  Were you watching the same game as us?

Ted H
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Re: [LU] Fulham

[{broken-address} Richard Walker]

agree about Philips - first 30 mins he was like a little kid completely lost. 
I think he improved but everyone I know thinks that Vierra (and Bridcutt) are 
much better players and much better prospects. 
Vierra didn't even make the 18 last night which I think is criminal.

  From: - - 
 To: Ted ; nat...@sky.com 
Cc: Leeds List 
 Sent: Wednesday, 16 August 2017, 9:15
 Subject: Re: [LU] Fulham
   
  pretty much agree Ted - the disallowed goal aside - we're getting used
  to playing together and are unbeaten. They passed us off the park for
  30 minutes...but then we got the idea and Saiz, Hernandez and Alioski
  got much more involved...and they couldn't get the ball off us. Philips
  is still a concern for me - I'd rather see Vieira alongside either
  O'Kane or Bridcutt...really not sure about brining Roofe on...I'd have
  had Dallas on earlier and the other new striker who's name I've
  forgotten and can't be arsed looking up...also not sure why BJ didn't
  play, thought was decent in the last game...that said Anita was tidy
  enough.

  Shaunessey was good - that tackle was a diamond; we commented how nice
  it was not to notice Pontus...so at least he wasn't doing anything
  daft. I think the keeper's charge out and clearance might do him some
  good.

  We need a sharper edge up front...but otherwise none too bad so far.

  Nick

    On 16 August 2017 at 07:58 Ted  wrote:

    Dave wrote:

    fans saw us pass the ball around a bit but have no shots or
    chances
    worthy of the name.

    And the Doctor wrote:
    An awful match. Nothing positive to say.
    If Cellimo was here, our coach would be sacked.
    A truly abysmal game followimg a lousy one on Saturday

    Sorry but I've got to disagree slightly Dave - I usually agree fully
    with
    your reports but what about Wood's one-on-one miss? And his "goal"
    was
    apparently on-side. Plus Aylings shot that went just wide and
    Dallas'
    shot/pass that got deflected at the death, just to go agonisingly
    past the
    reach of Wood.
    For a nil-nil, I thought it was a pretty good game - both teams
    could have
    pinched it and after the first 20 minutes (where we didn't get a
    look in)
    we seemed to play okay - I thought we looked pretty dangerous on the
    attack. Siaz was everywhere, Alionski gave them trouble and
    Shaunesseey
    looked pretty assured for a newbie - his latch ditch tackle at the
    end was
    a match winning tackle.
    If we play with that tempo against most teams in this division,
    we'll beat
    most.

    As for the Doctor's comments, WTF? Were you watching the same game
    as us?

    Ted H

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Re: [LU] Fulham

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There's absolutely no way he was man of the match - I think the best compliment 
I could say about him was that he got involved second half. I was watching him 
first half and he was terrible - not staying with his man, behind play. He was 
completely bewildered by Fulham's quick play.
I find everything he does is low quality but in this league he can be an asset 
but not ahead of Vierra. 

  From: Ted 
 To: Richard Walker  
Cc: - - ; "nat...@sky.com" ; Leeds 
List 
 Sent: Wednesday, 16 August 2017, 10:14
 Subject: Re: [LU] Fulham
   
It's a strange one regarding Philips - I agree Rich - no-one I've spoken to or 
listened to puts him in front of Bridcutt and Vierra.  Can't believe Vierra was 
dropped from the 18.  What does Christiansen see in him?  He's a squad player 
at best.
Mind you, on my way home in the car whats-her-name on Radio Leeds said she'd 
had a text/tweet saying Philips was man-of-the-match!  Even she was surprssed!

   
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Re: [LU] Fulham

[{broken-address} Richard Walker]

does the new arrangement allow you to watch all away games i.e non-sky away 
games ? 
and if so, is there a way of getting around the fact that you're not outside 
the UK to be able to access ?

  From: Nigel Sykes 
 To: 'Leeds List'  
 Sent: Wednesday, 16 August 2017, 11:49
 Subject: Re: [LU] Fulham
   
Have watched every game so far (I'm loving this new ability to watch them live, 
if you're outside the UK & Ireland!).  Thought Shaughnessey looked okay 
defensively, but I agree with Verner in that he looks lacking in the passing 
department.  It's like Philips - everyone goes on about his work rate and the 
number of tackles he makes - which is all great, of course - but his 
distribution is woeful.  Having said all that, you need ball winners, and if we 
haven't got ball winners who can also pass the ball in Batty-esque 
fashion, then we still need these guys.

My biggest rant has consistently been about Roofe.  I cannot understand how he 
gets a game.

But the biggest take-away so far is that we need time and a more consistent 
team selection, to give them a chance to get used to each other more.  At the 
end of the day, I'm happier with what I've seen so far than I have been in 
years.

Nigel
(the Dublin one)

-Original Message-
From: Leedslist [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of 
nat...@sky.com
Sent: 16 August 2017 11:14
To: Leeds List
Subject: Re: [LU] Fulham

It is all about opinions BUT in addition to Phil Hay I would refer you to Teds 
comments "Shaunesseey looked pretty assured for a newbie - his latch ditch 
tackle at the end was a match winning tackle."
and this from Moscow white of the square Ball - " And overall Shaughnessy 
looked calm, composed and competent to an almost ludicrous degree" so clearly I 
was not alone in my assessment of him and I stand by what I said.
It has been difficult at the back with two left backs (Berardi and CBJ) and two 
centre halves (Pennington & Cooper) getting injured and having to miss games. 
We have started all 4 games so far with different line-ups, some having a 
player out of position (Anita and ayling)  Bolton - Ayling, Cooper, Pennington 
Berardi, Port Vale - Anita Ayling Shaughnessey Borthwick-JacksonPreston - 
Ayling Jansson Cooper Borthwick- JacksonFulham - Ayling, Jansson Shaughnessey 
Anita Dave


      From: Errand Fivefold 
 To: "nat...@sky.com" ; Leeds List  
 Sent: Wednesday, 16 August 2017, 9:30
 Subject: Re: [LU] Fulham
  
Shaughnessey? Unless both Allard and I were in a parrallel universe and not at 
the match last night, Shaughnessey couldn't pass a ball!!
 Verner tHe LiTtLe YeLlOw DaFfOdIl @}-,-'--

      From: "nat...@sky.com" 
 To: Leeds List  
 Sent: Wednesday, 16 August 2017, 7:00
 Subject: Re: [LU] Fulham
  
Well we were promised goals, entertaining football and a side that would have a 
philosophy of 'we will score more than you' - not really working out like that 
as we have now gone 3 hours at home without a goal and with barely a shot on 
target
Although the result was the same as Saturday the game itsef was very different 
as Fulham tried to play football rather than just stopping us playing , and 
indeed they succeeded for much of the time. The first 25 minutes they pinged it 
about and we looked second best. Phillips in particular having a torrid time of 
it, then he made on good tackle which raised his confidence and he looked a 
different player, getting stuck in and moving the ball well. The team as a 
whole got a lift from this and the match was more even.
Both teams however had a real lack of a cutting edge up front so all the fancy 
dan stuff went with no reward. We had only one shot on target (apart from 
Wood's offside 'goal') - a ball was played through to Wood and since he was a 
lot closer to goal this time, I did think he may score, but no, he tried , not 
very well, to chip the keeper and made it an easy save
Second half Phillips had a shot from range that fizzed past, Hernandez had a 
awful freekick from a brilliant position , and Siaz pulled a shot just wide. 
Fulham were as blunt as us and I can only recall Wiedwald making one save when 
he came rushing out at the feet of the striker - good action from him. Fulham 
aslo hit the post. Perhaps the closest we came was a great cross from Dallas 
that just missed the outstretched foot of Wood
So after 32k on saturday over 28K (great for an ordinary midweek league game 
for us) fans saw us pass the ball around a bit but have no shots or chances 
worthy of the name. Things will need to improve. Fulham will be up there at the 
end of the season, so a draw could be a creditable result, having said that 2 
pts from 2 home games is not good enough and puts us under pressure to get all 
3 pts at Sunderland
Some general observations - Shaunnessey is looking like a real find, he is 
growing in confidence and may soon be giving TC a real selection headache. 
Anita is a tidy player and good at this level, but not a left back. Saiz is 
looking lik

Re: [LU] Fulham

[{broken-address} Richard Walker]

So why is this only available to overseas fans ? 
I imagine the assumption is that they can't get to away games (and home games). 
Well, having tried to get a ticket for an away game this season I realised I 
didn't have a cat in hells chance given my part-time (almost non-time) 
attendance at away games last season. So I will end up listening on Radio Leeds 
whilst Tony from Sydey as a front row seat for £5. 
Overseas fans might say if they lived in the UK they would attend all games. 
So why did overseas fans go abroad anyway ? Can't have loved their footy that 
match ? 
Or  in the case of overseas fans born in other countries , why do they support 
Leeds instead of their local team ? 
Not sure whether they deserve this privilege ?


 From: Nigel Sykes 
 To: 'Leeds List'  
 Sent: Wednesday, 16 August 2017, 13:55
 Subject: Re: [LU] Fulham
   
It's on the main website, in the LUTV section 
(https://www.leedsunited.com/lutv).  You have to register and then when you go 
back to the site and login, you select "Match Centre" at the very top, then 
"International Match Centre" on the middle-right of the screen that appears 
(nobody says they made it easy!).  Then the live link appears (when there is a 
game to watch, naturally).  It being Leeds, when you click the play icon, all 
it does it being up another play icon, in a different colour(!), but if you 
persevere, it finally plays.

Nigel
(the Dublin one)

-Original Message-
From: Richard Naef [mailto:rich...@triumph-computers.co.uk] 
Sent: 16 August 2017 13:02
To: Nigel Sykes; 'Leeds List'
Subject: RE: [LU] Fulham

Hi Nigel,

Have you got a link, I'd like to give it a go (I have IPVanish) 

ttfn

Richard

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From: Leedslist [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of Nigel Sykes
Sent: 16 August 2017 12:37
To: 'Leeds List' 
Subject: Re: [LU] Fulham

The new scheme allows you to watch any non-televised game, home and away, for 5 
quid a time (actually, you get 3 days access for your fiver).


I’m currently in France, so haven’t had to flaunt any rules.  But I heard of 
someone who was watching yesterday’s game in London.  I’m guessing that they 
will do an IP address check to block UK and Ireland IP’s, so you would probably 
need a VPN (there are many available. e.g. TunnelBear, IPVanish etc.) to spoof 
your IP to somewhere abroad, if you are in the UK or Ireland.

The sign-up asks you which country you are in, but doesn’t ask for an address 
(it did ask for a telephone number, and I have a French one anyway, but that 
probably isn’t significant).  I paid through a PayPal account registered to an 
Irish address, and that wasn’t a problem.

Nigel
(the Dublin one)

 

From: Richard Walker [mailto:richleed...@yahoo.co.uk]
Sent: 16 August 2017 12:15
To: Nigel Sykes; 'Leeds List'
Subject: Re: [LU] Fulham

 

does the new arrangement allow you to watch all away games i.e non-sky away 
games ? 

 

and if so, is there a way of getting around the fact that you're not outside 
the UK to be able to access ?

 

  _  

From: Nigel Sykes 
To: 'Leeds List' 
Sent: Wednesday, 16 August 2017, 11:49
Subject: Re: [LU] Fulham

 

Have watched every game so far (I'm loving this new ability to watch them live, 
if you're outside the UK & Ireland!).  Thought Shaughnessey looked okay 
defensively, but I agree with Verner in that he looks lacking in the passing 
department.  It's like Philips - everyone goes on about his work rate and the 
number of tackles he makes - which is all great, of course - but his 
distribution is woeful.  Having said all that, you need ball winners, and if we 
haven't got ball winners who can also pass the ball in Batty-esque fashion, 
then we still need these guys.

My biggest rant has consistently been about Roofe.  I cannot understand how he 
gets a game.

But the biggest take-away so far is that we need time and a more consistent 
team selection, to give them a chance to get used to each other more.  At the 
end of the day, I'm happier with what I've seen so far than I have been in 
years.

Nigel
(the Dublin one)

-Original Message-
From: Leedslist [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of 
nat...@sky.com
Sent: 16 August 2017 11:14
To: Leeds List
Subject: Re: [LU] Fulham

It is all about opinions BUT in addition to Phil Hay I would refer you to Teds 
comments "Shaunesseey looked pretty assured for a newbie - his latch ditch 
tackle at the end was a match winning tackle."
and this from Moscow white of the square Ball - " And overall Shaughnessy 
looked calm, composed and competent to an almost ludicrous degree" so clearly I 
was not alone in my assessment of him and I stand by what I said.
It has been difficult at the back with two left backs (Berardi and CBJ) and two 
centre halves (Pennington & Cooper) getting injured and having to miss games. 
We have started all 4 games so far with different line-ups, some having a 
player out of position (Anita and ayling)  Bolton - Ayling, Cooper, Penning

Re: [LU] Fulham

[{broken-address} Richard Walker]

or is this just a loophole in the Uk licensing agreements that allows the club 
to offer this ?

  From: Richard Walker 
 To: Nigel Sykes ; 'Leeds List'  
 Sent: Wednesday, 16 August 2017, 14:05
 Subject: Re: [LU] Fulham
   
So why is this only available to overseas fans ? 
I imagine the assumption is that they can't get to away games (and home games). 
Well, having tried to get a ticket for an away game this season I realised I 
didn't have a cat in hells chance given my part-time (almost non-time) 
attendance at away games last season. So I will end up listening on Radio Leeds 
whilst Tony from Sydey as a front row seat for £5. 
Overseas fans might say if they lived in the UK they would attend all games. 
So why did overseas fans go abroad anyway ? Can't have loved their footy that 
match ? 
Or  in the case of overseas fans born in other countries , why do they support 
Leeds instead of their local team ? 
Not sure whether they deserve this privilege ?


 From: Nigel Sykes 
 To: 'Leeds List'  
 Sent: Wednesday, 16 August 2017, 13:55
 Subject: Re: [LU] Fulham
   
It's on the main website, in the LUTV section 
(https://www.leedsunited.com/lutv).  You have to register and then when you go 
back to the site and login, you select "Match Centre" at the very top, then 
"International Match Centre" on the middle-right of the screen that appears 
(nobody says they made it easy!).  Then the live link appears (when there is a 
game to watch, naturally).  It being Leeds, when you click the play icon, all 
it does it being up another play icon, in a different colour(!), but if you 
persevere, it finally plays.

Nigel
(the Dublin one)

-Original Message-
From: Richard Naef [mailto:rich...@triumph-computers.co.uk] 
Sent: 16 August 2017 13:02
To: Nigel Sykes; 'Leeds List'
Subject: RE: [LU] Fulham

Hi Nigel,

Have you got a link, I'd like to give it a go (I have IPVanish) 

ttfn

Richard

-Original Message-
From: Leedslist [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of Nigel Sykes
Sent: 16 August 2017 12:37
To: 'Leeds List' 
Subject: Re: [LU] Fulham

The new scheme allows you to watch any non-televised game, home and away, for 5 
quid a time (actually, you get 3 days access for your fiver).


I’m currently in France, so haven’t had to flaunt any rules.  But I heard of 
someone who was watching yesterday’s game in London.  I’m guessing that they 
will do an IP address check to block UK and Ireland IP’s, so you would probably 
need a VPN (there are many available. e.g. TunnelBear, IPVanish etc.) to spoof 
your IP to somewhere abroad, if you are in the UK or Ireland.

The sign-up asks you which country you are in, but doesn’t ask for an address 
(it did ask for a telephone number, and I have a French one anyway, but that 
probably isn’t significant).  I paid through a PayPal account registered to an 
Irish address, and that wasn’t a problem.

Nigel
(the Dublin one)

 

From: Richard Walker [mailto:richleed...@yahoo.co.uk]
Sent: 16 August 2017 12:15
To: Nigel Sykes; 'Leeds List'
Subject: Re: [LU] Fulham

 

does the new arrangement allow you to watch all away games i.e non-sky away 
games ? 

 

and if so, is there a way of getting around the fact that you're not outside 
the UK to be able to access ?

 

  _  

From: Nigel Sykes 
To: 'Leeds List' 
Sent: Wednesday, 16 August 2017, 11:49
Subject: Re: [LU] Fulham

 

Have watched every game so far (I'm loving this new ability to watch them live, 
if you're outside the UK & Ireland!).  Thought Shaughnessey looked okay 
defensively, but I agree with Verner in that he looks lacking in the passing 
department.  It's like Philips - everyone goes on about his work rate and the 
number of tackles he makes - which is all great, of course - but his 
distribution is woeful.  Having said all that, you need ball winners, and if we 
haven't got ball winners who can also pass the ball in Batty-esque fashion, 
then we still need these guys.

My biggest rant has consistently been about Roofe.  I cannot understand how he 
gets a game.

But the biggest take-away so far is that we need time and a more consistent 
team selection, to give them a chance to get used to each other more.  At the 
end of the day, I'm happier with what I've seen so far than I have been in 
years.

Nigel
(the Dublin one)

-Original Message-
From: Leedslist [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of 
nat...@sky.com
Sent: 16 August 2017 11:14
To: Leeds List
Subject: Re: [LU] Fulham

It is all about opinions BUT in addition to Phil Hay I would refer you to Teds 
comments "Shaunesseey looked pretty assured for a newbie - his latch ditch 
tackle at the end was a match winning tackle."
and this from Moscow white of the square Ball - " And overall Shaughnessy 
looked calm, composed and competent to an almost ludicrous degree" so clearly I 
was not alone in my assessment of him and I stand by what I said.
It has been difficult at the back with two left backs (Berardi and CBJ) and two 

Re: [LU] Fulham

[{broken-address} Richard Walker]

"Shaugnessy: Revelation and I pointed him out in pre-season as one who looked 
really good. So obviously that makes me a genius."
Undoubtedly you are a genius although I will also point out that when he came 
on against Bolton everyone was slating him for that poor piece of defending 
that gave them the corner I commented to my Dad who was watching the game with 
me that I liked the look of him and that he looked like a player who has got an 
air of quality about him. 
Now my Dad is not on the list but I  can put anyone who doesn't believe me in 
touch with him to confirm. 
I am also a genius.

  From: {broken-address} Nicholas Armit 

 To: "nat...@sky.com" ; Leeds List  
 Sent: Wednesday, 16 August 2017, 14:59
 Subject: Re: [LU] Fulham
   
My thoughts:
 - So Alioski seems to be getting some stick. I don't really understand. he has 
just started playing in this division, already works his bollocks off (three 
great challenges after running 30/40 yards), made the pass that set Wood up. 
Last week he was a hero now drop him. He needs more game time to learn not 
dropping. 
- Shaugnessy: Revelation and I pointed him out in pre-season as one who looked 
really good. So obviously that makes me a genius.
- Anita: Tidy player but looked stretched by the end of the game last night. He 
also looks a bit slow.
- O'Kane: Well I have been singing this guy's praises and again last night I 
thought he was one of our best. Always available for a pass. He did though give 
the ball away three times in dangerous areas which was concerning but he did 
not hide after having done so. I think a much more positive option than 
Bridcutt. 
Viera/Phillips - Viera has to play ahead of Phillips. 
Saiz - really good and I liked him and Hernandez together. Most championship 
defenders won't know what to do with their interplay. Yes he whines a bit but 
that's ok he is our whiner.
Fulham - Thought they were very good and that a point from them was a decent 
result especially after the first 20-25 minutes which were a bit ominous. To 
come through that and dominate large patches of play was a testament to us I 
thought.
Us - So far I am not disappointed with the points haul. We have played very 
different teams (very physical and very technical) and have adapted and got 
points from every game. And we are a new team in essence still learning how to 
play together with players still learning this league. I am optimistic and 
think we have a team that could do well this year.
Nick

On Wednesday, August 16, 2017, 2:01:06 AM EDT, nat...@sky.com  
wrote:

Well we were promised goals, entertaining football and a side that would have a 
philosophy of 'we will score more than you' - not really working out like that 
as we have now gone 3 hours at home without a goal and with barely a shot on 
target
Although the result was the same as Saturday the game itsef was very different 
as Fulham tried to play football rather than just stopping us playing , and 
indeed they succeeded for much of the time. The first 25 minutes they pinged it 
about and we looked second best. Phillips in particular having a torrid time of 
it, then he made on good tackle which raised his confidence and he looked a 
different player, getting stuck in and moving the ball well. The team as a 
whole got a lift from this and the match was more even.
Both teams however had a real lack of a cutting edge up front so all the fancy 
dan stuff went with no reward. We had only one shot on target (apart from 
Wood's offside 'goal') - a ball was played through to Wood and since he was a 
lot closer to goal this time, I did think he may score, but no, he tried , not 
very well, to chip the keeper and made it an easy save
Second half Phillips had a shot from range that fizzed past, Hernandez had a 
awful freekick from a brilliant position , and Siaz pulled a shot just wide. 
Fulham were as blunt as us and I can only recall Wiedwald making one save when 
he came rushing out at the feet of the striker - good action from him. Fulham 
aslo hit the post. Perhaps the closest we came was a great cross from Dallas 
that just missed the outstretched foot of Wood
So after 32k on saturday over 28K (great for an ordinary midweek league game 
for us) fans saw us pass the ball around a bit but have no shots or chances 
worthy of the name. Things will need to improve. Fulham will be up there at the 
end of the season, so a draw could be a creditable result, having said that 2 
pts from 2 home games is not good enough and puts us under pressure to get all 
3 pts at Sunderland
Some general observations - Shaunnessey is looking like a real find, he is 
growing in confidence and may soon be giving TC a real selection headache. 
Anita is a tidy player and good at this level, but not a left back. Saiz is 
looking like the real deal - needs to cut out the moaning, diving, showing 
imaginary cards and needs to be a bit stronger but I do have faith in him. 
Alioski is the opposite so far he shows the odd fla

Re: [LU] Fulham

[{broken-address} Richard Walker]

Good man ! 
and I am surprised that they won't let you on based on that justification. 
Makes sense to me. 

  From: Torrey Gilday 
 To: Richard Walker  
Cc: Nigel Sykes ; Leeds List 
 Sent: Wednesday, 16 August 2017, 15:19
 Subject: Re: [LU] Fulham
   
My understanding is that the licensing arrangements (or lack thereof)
allow them to offer this to overseas fans.

As for being an overseas fan, simple fact is that my local team did
not exist when I first discovered Leeds. So yeah, I should support
that club more, but Leeds is still #1 to me.

Finally, I would move to England in a heartbeat, but unfortunately the
UK government does not accept "be closer to Leeds United" as a valid
reason to let me live there.

Sent from my iPad

> On Aug 16, 2017, at 7:09 AM, {broken-address} Richard Walker 
>  wrote:
>
> So why is this only available to overseas fans ?
> I imagine the assumption is that they can't get to away games (and home 
> games). Well, having tried to get a ticket for an away game this season I 
> realised I didn't have a cat in hells chance given my part-time (almost 
> non-time) attendance at away games last season. So I will end up listening on 
> Radio Leeds whilst Tony from Sydey as a front row seat for £5.
> Overseas fans might say if they lived in the UK they would attend all games.
> So why did overseas fans go abroad anyway ? Can't have loved their footy that 
> match ?
> Or  in the case of overseas fans born in other countries , why do they 
> support Leeds instead of their local team ?
> Not sure whether they deserve this privilege ?
>
>
> From: Nigel Sykes 
> To: 'Leeds List' 
> Sent: Wednesday, 16 August 2017, 13:55
> Subject: Re: [LU] Fulham
>
> It's on the main website, in the LUTV section 
> (https://www.leedsunited.com/lutv).  You have to register and then when you 
> go back to the site and login, you select "Match Centre" at the very top, 
> then "International Match Centre" on the middle-right of the screen that 
> appears (nobody says they made it easy!).  Then the live link appears (when 
> there is a game to watch, naturally).  It being Leeds, when you click the 
> play icon, all it does it being up another play icon, in a different 
> colour(!), but if you persevere, it finally plays.
>
> Nigel
> (the Dublin one)
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Richard Naef [mailto:rich...@triumph-computers.co.uk]
> Sent: 16 August 2017 13:02
> To: Nigel Sykes; 'Leeds List'
> Subject: RE: [LU] Fulham
>
> Hi Nigel,
>
> Have you got a link, I'd like to give it a go (I have IPVanish)
>
> ttfn
>
> Richard
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Leedslist [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of Nigel Sykes
> Sent: 16 August 2017 12:37
> To: 'Leeds List' 
> Subject: Re: [LU] Fulham
>
> The new scheme allows you to watch any non-televised game, home and away, for 
> 5 quid a time (actually, you get 3 days access for your fiver).
>
>
> I’m currently in France, so haven’t had to flaunt any rules.  But I heard of 
> someone who was watching yesterday’s game in London.  I’m guessing that they 
> will do an IP address check to block UK and Ireland IP’s, so you would 
> probably need a VPN (there are many available. e.g. TunnelBear, IPVanish 
> etc.) to spoof your IP to somewhere abroad, if you are in the UK or Ireland.
>
> The sign-up asks you which country you are in, but doesn’t ask for an address 
> (it did ask for a telephone number, and I have a French one anyway, but that 
> probably isn’t significant).  I paid through a PayPal account registered to 
> an Irish address, and that wasn’t a problem.
>
> Nigel
> (the Dublin one)
>
>
>
> From: Richard Walker [mailto:richleed...@yahoo.co.uk]
> Sent: 16 August 2017 12:15
> To: Nigel Sykes; 'Leeds List'
> Subject: Re: [LU] Fulham
>
>
>
> does the new arrangement allow you to watch all away games i.e non-sky away 
> games ?
>
>
>
> and if so, is there a way of getting around the fact that you're not outside 
> the UK to be able to access ?
>
>
>
>  _
>
> From: Nigel Sykes 
> To: 'Leeds List' 
> Sent: Wednesday, 16 August 2017, 11:49
> Subject: Re: [LU] Fulham
>
>
>
> Have watched every game so far (I'm loving this new ability to watch them 
> live, if you're outside the UK & Ireland!).  Thought Shaughnessey looked okay 
> defensively, but I agree with Verner in that he looks lacking in the passing 
> department.  It's like Philips - everyone goes on about his work rate and the 
> number of tackles he makes - which is all great, of course - but his 
> distribution is woeful.  Having said

Re: [LU] Fulham

[{broken-address} Richard Walker]

I did not know that - explains ridiculous KO times although I've grown to like 
the Saturday 5:30 away games - a few pints in the pub , then go back home for 
to sup a bottle of fine wine then beat the missus. 

  From: Matt Anderson 
 To: Jim Moran  
Cc: Richard Walker ; Leeds List 
 Sent: Wednesday, 16 August 2017, 16:34
 Subject: Re: [LU] Fulham
   
You can't broadcast live football in the UK between 2.45 and 5.15 to protect 
attendances at lower league games in particular and there is no prospect of 
this being dropped yet 

Sent from my iPhone

> On 16 Aug 2017, at 14:13, Jim Moran  wrote:
> 
> Media rights for the live matches, highlights etc. secured per territory.
> They could do it in the UK if Sky let them, but then people would scrap
> their Sky subscriptions and only watch non-televised games. Sky would then
> end up televising even more Leeds games, as we attract the most viewers and
> subscriptions in the league.
> 
> Money talks.
> 
> On 16 August 2017 at 14:05, {broken-address} Richard Walker <
> richleed...@yahoo.co.uk.is-broken.gn.apc.org> wrote:
> 
>> So why is this only available to overseas fans ?
>> I imagine the assumption is that they can't get to away games (and home
>> games). Well, having tried to get a ticket for an away game this season I
>> realised I didn't have a cat in hells chance given my part-time (almost
>> non-time) attendance at away games last season. So I will end up listening
>> on Radio Leeds whilst Tony from Sydey as a front row seat for £5.
>> Overseas fans might say if they lived in the UK they would attend all
>> games.
>> So why did overseas fans go abroad anyway ? Can't have loved their footy
>> that match ?
>> Or  in the case of overseas fans born in other countries , why do they
>> support Leeds instead of their local team ?
>> Not sure whether they deserve this privilege ?
>> 
>> 
>> From: Nigel Sykes 
>> To: 'Leeds List' 
>> Sent: Wednesday, 16 August 2017, 13:55
>> Subject: Re: [LU] Fulham
>> 
>> It's on the main website, in the LUTV section (
>> https://www.leedsunited.com/lutv).  You have to register and then when
>> you go back to the site and login, you select "Match Centre" at the very
>> top, then "International Match Centre" on the middle-right of the screen
>> that appears (nobody says they made it easy!).  Then the live link appears
>> (when there is a game to watch, naturally).  It being Leeds, when you click
>> the play icon, all it does it being up another play icon, in a different
>> colour(!), but if you persevere, it finally plays.
>> 
>> Nigel
>> (the Dublin one)
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Richard Naef [mailto:rich...@triumph-computers.co.uk]
>> Sent: 16 August 2017 13:02
>> To: Nigel Sykes; 'Leeds List'
>> Subject: RE: [LU] Fulham
>> 
>> Hi Nigel,
>> 
>> Have you got a link, I'd like to give it a go (I have IPVanish)
>> 
>> ttfn
>> 
>> Richard
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Leedslist [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of Nigel
>> Sykes
>> Sent: 16 August 2017 12:37
>> To: 'Leeds List' 
>> Subject: Re: [LU] Fulham
>> 
>> The new scheme allows you to watch any non-televised game, home and away,
>> for 5 quid a time (actually, you get 3 days access for your fiver).
>> 
>> 
>> I’m currently in France, so haven’t had to flaunt any rules.  But I heard
>> of someone who was watching yesterday’s game in London.  I’m guessing that
>> they will do an IP address check to block UK and Ireland IP’s, so you would
>> probably need a VPN (there are many available. e.g. TunnelBear, IPVanish
>> etc.) to spoof your IP to somewhere abroad, if you are in the UK or Ireland.
>> 
>> The sign-up asks you which country you are in, but doesn’t ask for an
>> address (it did ask for a telephone number, and I have a French one anyway,
>> but that probably isn’t significant).  I paid through a PayPal account
>> registered to an Irish address, and that wasn’t a problem.
>> 
>> Nigel
>> (the Dublin one)
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> From: Richard Walker [mailto:richleed...@yahoo.co.uk]
>> Sent: 16 August 2017 12:15
>> To: Nigel Sykes; 'Leeds List'
>> Subject: Re: [LU] Fulham
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> does the new arrangement allow you to watch all away games i.e non-sky
>> away games ?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> and if so, is there a way of getting around the fact that you're not
>> outside the UK to be ab

Re: [LU] Fulham

[{broken-address} Richard Walker]

not particularly - they were happy to see us try and play it out which we 
failed miserably to do in the first half. 
I too don't like having a keeper who can't kick or has been instructed that he 
should always look for the short ball. Our defenders are not good enough on the 
ball or good enough passers to play that sort of style and I'm sure team will 
get wise to it (like Preston did). 

  From: Kevin Lewis (UK SBS) 
 To: "leedslist@gn.apc.org"  
 Sent: Thursday, 17 August 2017, 12:29
 Subject: Re: [LU] Fulham
   
Did Fulham try to close down all the short-range options on goal-kicks and  
when the keeper had the ball?  If so, how did he and the team cope?  Preston 
worked out how to  do that after the first 20 mins on Saturday, and it 
disrupted Leeds completely, until their sending off made a pressing-game too 
risky.

I've got a bit of a bee in my bonnet about having a keeper that can't kick.

KOT.


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UK SBS

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Re: [LU] Fulham

[{broken-address} Richard Walker]

Apparently Bridcutt having medical at Forest today according to some reports. 
I thought he was average last season after a great loan spell but I'd still 
keep him - much better player than Philips. 

  From: Matt Anderson 
 To: Richard Walker  
Cc: Nigel Sykes ; Leeds List 
 Sent: Wednesday, 16 August 2017, 16:35
 Subject: Re: [LU] Fulham
   
There are various Facebook live streams that broadcast the match. 

Some guy called Adam broadcasts while he drinks and commentates. 

Means anyone with Facebook can watch anywhere

I watched while walking dogs yesterday 

Look up leeds united groups and join the one that has about 53000 members. He 
posts it there 

Other than that get a vpn and use Paypal and you are away at home. 



Sent from my iPhone

> On 16 Aug 2017, at 14:05, {broken-address} Richard Walker 
>  wrote:
> 
> So why is this only available to overseas fans ? 
> I imagine the assumption is that they can't get to away games (and home 
> games). Well, having tried to get a ticket for an away game this season I 
> realised I didn't have a cat in hells chance given my part-time (almost 
> non-time) attendance at away games last season. So I will end up listening on 
> Radio Leeds whilst Tony from Sydey as a front row seat for £5. 
> Overseas fans might say if they lived in the UK they would attend all games. 
> So why did overseas fans go abroad anyway ? Can't have loved their footy that 
> match ? 
> Or  in the case of overseas fans born in other countries , why do they 
> support Leeds instead of their local team ? 
> Not sure whether they deserve this privilege ?
> 
> 
> From: Nigel Sykes 
> To: 'Leeds List'  
> Sent: Wednesday, 16 August 2017, 13:55
> Subject: Re: [LU] Fulham
> 
> It's on the main website, in the LUTV section 
> (https://www.leedsunited.com/lutv).  You have to register and then when you 
> go back to the site and login, you select "Match Centre" at the very top, 
> then "International Match Centre" on the middle-right of the screen that 
> appears (nobody says they made it easy!).  Then the live link appears (when 
> there is a game to watch, naturally).  It being Leeds, when you click the 
> play icon, all it does it being up another play icon, in a different 
> colour(!), but if you persevere, it finally plays.
> 
> Nigel
> (the Dublin one)
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Richard Naef [mailto:rich...@triumph-computers.co.uk] 
> Sent: 16 August 2017 13:02
> To: Nigel Sykes; 'Leeds List'
> Subject: RE: [LU] Fulham
> 
> Hi Nigel,
> 
> Have you got a link, I'd like to give it a go (I have IPVanish) 
> 
> ttfn
> 
> Richard
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Leedslist [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of Nigel Sykes
> Sent: 16 August 2017 12:37
> To: 'Leeds List' 
> Subject: Re: [LU] Fulham
> 
> The new scheme allows you to watch any non-televised game, home and away, for 
> 5 quid a time (actually, you get 3 days access for your fiver).
> 
> 
> I’m currently in France, so haven’t had to flaunt any rules.  But I heard of 
> someone who was watching yesterday’s game in London.  I’m guessing that they 
> will do an IP address check to block UK and Ireland IP’s, so you would 
> probably need a VPN (there are many available. e.g. TunnelBear, IPVanish 
> etc.) to spoof your IP to somewhere abroad, if you are in the UK or Ireland.
> 
> The sign-up asks you which country you are in, but doesn’t ask for an address 
> (it did ask for a telephone number, and I have a French one anyway, but that 
> probably isn’t significant).  I paid through a PayPal account registered to 
> an Irish address, and that wasn’t a problem.
> 
> Nigel
> (the Dublin one)
> 
> 
> 
> From: Richard Walker [mailto:richleed...@yahoo.co.uk]
> Sent: 16 August 2017 12:15
> To: Nigel Sykes; 'Leeds List'
> Subject: Re: [LU] Fulham
> 
> 
> 
> does the new arrangement allow you to watch all away games i.e non-sky away 
> games ? 
> 
> 
> 
> and if so, is there a way of getting around the fact that you're not outside 
> the UK to be able to access ?
> 
> 
> 
>  _  
> 
> From: Nigel Sykes 
> To: 'Leeds List' 
> Sent: Wednesday, 16 August 2017, 11:49
> Subject: Re: [LU] Fulham
> 
> 
> 
> Have watched every game so far (I'm loving this new ability to watch them 
> live, if you're outside the UK & Ireland!).  Thought Shaughnessey looked okay 
> defensively, but I agree with Verner in that he looks lacking in the passing 
> department.  It's like Philips - everyone goes on about his work rate and the 
> number of tackles he makes - which is all great, of course - b

Re: [LU] Fulham

[{broken-address} Richard Walker]

well if we sold Wood for £20 million - we could have Snodgrass  , Bartley and a 
new 15 million pound striker 

  From: David W 
 To: Richard Walker  
Cc: Matt Anderson ; Leeds List 
 Sent: Friday, 18 August 2017, 12:47
 Subject: Re: [LU] Fulham
   
Agree we would ideally like us to hold on to him, but 5 into 2 spots doesn't 
go, and Bridcutt is probably the best paid of them with 12 months left on his 
contract. So can see why we'd do it.
O'Kane seems to be the new main man in there and just got a new contract, 
Phillips clearly well regarded (despite much-discussed shortcomings), Vieira is 
the future and Klich only just joined.
I like to delude myself that we could sell him and use the freed use wages / 
transfer fee to help get Snoddy back in on loan...

On Fri, Aug 18, 2017 at 12:58 PM, {broken-address} Richard Walker 
 wrote:

Apparently Bridcutt having medical at Forest today according to some reports. 
I thought he was average last season after a great loan spell but I'd still 
keep him - much better player than Philips. 

      From: Matt Anderson 
 To: Richard Walker 
Cc: Nigel Sykes ; Leeds List 
 Sent: Wednesday, 16 August 2017, 16:35
 Subject: Re: [LU] Fulham

There are various Facebook live streams that broadcast the match.

Some guy called Adam broadcasts while he drinks and commentates.

Means anyone with Facebook can watch anywhere

I watched while walking dogs yesterday

Look up leeds united groups and join the one that has about 53000 members. He 
posts it there

Other than that get a vpn and use Paypal and you are away at home.



Sent from my iPhone

> On 16 Aug 2017, at 14:05, {broken-address} Richard Walker 
>  wrote:
>
> So why is this only available to overseas fans ?
> I imagine the assumption is that they can't get to away games (and home 
> games). Well, having tried to get a ticket for an away game this season I 
> realised I didn't have a cat in hells chance given my part-time (almost 
> non-time) attendance at away games last season. So I will end up listening on 
> Radio Leeds whilst Tony from Sydey as a front row seat for £5.
> Overseas fans might say if they lived in the UK they would attend all games.
> So why did overseas fans go abroad anyway ? Can't have loved their footy that 
> match ?
> Or  in the case of overseas fans born in other countries , why do they 
> support Leeds instead of their local team ?
> Not sure whether they deserve this privilege ?
>
>
> From: Nigel Sykes 
> To: 'Leeds List' 
> Sent: Wednesday, 16 August 2017, 13:55
> Subject: Re: [LU] Fulham
>
> It's on the main website, in the LUTV section (https://www.leedsunited.com/ 
> lutv).  You have to register and then when you go back to the site and login, 
> you select "Match Centre" at the very top, then "International Match Centre" 
> on the middle-right of the screen that appears (nobody says they made it 
> easy!).  Then the live link appears (when there is a game to watch, 
> naturally).  It being Leeds, when you click the play icon, all it does it 
> being up another play icon, in a different colour(!), but if you persevere, 
> it finally plays.
>
> Nigel
> (the Dublin one)
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Richard Naef [mailto:richard@triumph- computers.co.uk]
> Sent: 16 August 2017 13:02
> To: Nigel Sykes; 'Leeds List'
> Subject: RE: [LU] Fulham
>
> Hi Nigel,
>
> Have you got a link, I'd like to give it a go (I have IPVanish)
>
> ttfn
>
> Richard
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Leedslist [mailto:leedslist-bounces@gn. apc.org] On Behalf Of Nigel 
> Sykes
> Sent: 16 August 2017 12:37
> To: 'Leeds List' 
> Subject: Re: [LU] Fulham
>
> The new scheme allows you to watch any non-televised game, home and away, for 
> 5 quid a time (actually, you get 3 days access for your fiver).
>
>
> I’m currently in France, so haven’t had to flaunt any rules.  But I heard of 
> someone who was watching yesterday’s game in London.  I’m guessing that they 
> will do an IP address check to block UK and Ireland IP’s, so you would 
> probably need a VPN (there are many available. e.g. TunnelBear, IPVanish 
> etc.) to spoof your IP to somewhere abroad, if you are in the UK or Ireland.
>
> The sign-up asks you which country you are in, but doesn’t ask for an address 
> (it did ask for a telephone number, and I have a French one anyway, but that 
> probably isn’t significant).  I paid through a PayPal account registered to 
> an Irish address, and that wasn’t a problem.
>
> Nigel
> (the Dublin one)
>
>
>
> From: Richard Walker [mailto:richleed...@yahoo.co. uk]
> Sent: 16 August 2017 12:15
> To: Nigel Sykes; 'Leeds List'
> Subject: Re: [LU] Fulham
>
>
>
>

[LU] Wood

[{broken-address} Richard Walker]

Twitter reporting Leeds have agreed £15 million for Wood, medical today. 
If true, I think this is the best deal in LUFC history and daylight robbery. 
Wood will not make it in the PL especially with a struggling team.
on a wider point Radrizzani getting lots of praise for the money is ploughing 
in to the club, however he's pocketed 6 million for Taylor and now £15 million 
for Wood - what big transfers have we seen come in ? If this was Cellino he'd 
be getting slated, 

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Re: [LU] Wood

[{broken-address} Richard Walker]

Yes, he's obviously got more cash than Cellino - of that there is no doubt but 
if you look at it from another perspective he is about to pocket £21 million 
from transfers and all we've seen are a collection of foreign recruits some of 
which are struggling to get in the team. Is our team better that the one we 
finished last season ? Not sure. 
Let's see how much of that £21 million is ploughed back into the team or how 
much will be used to recoup the 20 million he paid for the stadium ? 

  From: Jeremy Adams 
 To: "leedslist@gn.apc.org" ; Richard Walker 
 
 Sent: Saturday, 19 August 2017, 11:33
 Subject: Re: [LU] Wood
   
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He has bought the ground back Rich, and seems to be investing in fixing up 
Elland Road, not direct team investment I know but he has supported a slew of 
signings as well, some of whom actually look like a bargain and not just 
Cellino's chums from Italy.

From: Leedslist  on behalf of {broken-address} 
Richard Walker 
Sent: Saturday, August 19, 2017 2:20:29 AM
To: leedslist@gn.apc.org
Subject: [LU] Wood Twitter reporting Leeds have agreed £15 million for Wood, 
medical today. 
If true, I think this is the best deal in LUFC history and daylight robbery. 
Wood will not make it in the PL especially with a struggling team.
on a wider point Radrizzani getting lots of praise for the money is ploughing 
in to the club, however he's pocketed 6 million for Taylor and now £15 million 
for Wood - what big transfers have we seen come in ? If this was Cellino he'd 
be getting slated, 

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Re: [LU] LU: San Antonio Ibiza

[{broken-address} Richard Walker]

you lucky git ! 

  From: "Robinson, Mick" 
 To: Leeds United (The List)  
 Sent: Saturday, 19 August 2017, 13:03
 Subject: [LU] LU: San Antonio Ibiza
   
Anyone know the best bar to see the game tonight in San Antonio? TIA



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Re: [LU] Wood

[{broken-address} Richard Walker]

>>He's also coughed up about £12M in new players 
Not sure if this lot (below) adds up to 12M ? Also he received 6-7 million for 
Charlie Taylor so taking all that into account its not a lot of money. Also, 
did he know Wood was going to leave ? Mmmm 
Cellino - coughed up £3 million for Roofe, 3 million for Wood , 2-3 million for 
Bridcutt , 1 million for O'Kane 
It could be argued that he's spent more ! 






  From: Richard Naef 
 To: "leedslist@gn.apc.org"  
 Sent: Saturday, 19 August 2017, 12:58
 Subject: Re: [LU] Wood
   
He also extended the deals for senior players and youth.  

He's also coughed up about £12M in new players and Jansson & Sacko.

He's employed proper business management staff and hasn't said or done a single 
embarrassing thing or been in court for any dodgy dealing, there really is no 
comparison between the 2.

ttfn

Richard

-Original Message-
From: Leedslist [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of Jeremy Adams
Sent: 19 August 2017 11:33
To: leedslist@gn.apc.org; Richard Walker 
Subject: Re: [LU] Wood

He has bought the ground back Rich, and seems to be investing in fixing up 
Elland Road, not direct team investment I know but he has supported a slew of 
signings as well, some of whom actually look like a bargain and not just 
Cellino's chums from Italy.




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Re: [LU] Wood

[{broken-address} Richard Walker]

yes he did get mccormack and Lewis Cook money and to be honest I'm playing 
devil's advocate but if Wood goes this fella will get no stick yet Bates and 
Cellino were murdered for selling our best players. I actually don't blame the 
club for Howson, Cook, Byram, Taylor, Wood etc I blame the fact that players 
have no loyalty and are out for the money - and there's no real argument 
against that in this day and age.

  From: Richard Naef 
 To: "leedslist@gn.apc.org"  
 Sent: Saturday, 19 August 2017, 13:40
 Subject: Re: [LU] Wood
   
>Not sure if this lot (below) adds up to 12M ? Also he received 6-7 million for 
>Charlie Taylor so taking all that into account its not a lot of money. Also, 
>did he know Wood was going to leave ? Mmmm 
>Cellino - coughed up £3 million for Roofe, 3 million for Wood , 2-3 million 
>for Bridcutt , 1 million for O'Kane
>It could be argued that he's spent more !

Over his 3 years compared to AR’s 6 months possibly, remember MC got the dosh 
for McCormack and a few others as well.


For reasonably reliable figures of the purchases check this out….

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/leeds-united/transfers/verein/399
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Re: [LU] Wood's replacement?

[{broken-address} Richard Walker]

Billy Paynter ?

  From: Richard Naef 
 To: "leedslist@gn.apc.org"  
 Sent: Saturday, 19 August 2017, 14:01
 Subject: [LU] Wood's replacement?
   
.that geezer Sharp at the Blunts is knocking them in.

ttfn

Richard

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Re: [LU] Live stream?

[{broken-address} Richard Walker]

happy with that - good first half. 
We look lively up front and in a way I think that is a result of the absence of 
Wood because it is allowing Allioski and Siaz to run from midfield in a 
different style of play. 
Big sub though for us - Hernandez going off and Roofe on. He looks poor and he 
really needs to get himself involved. 

  From: Richard Naef 
 To: "leedslist@gn.apc.org"  
 Sent: Saturday, 19 August 2017, 17:44
 Subject: Re: [LU] Live stream?
   
Fuck, didn't read the small print - non tv matches only gr

ttfn

Richard

-Original Message-
From: Leedslist [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of Richard Naef
Sent: 19 August 2017 17:25
To: leedslist@gn.apc.org
Subject: Re: [LU] Live stream?


Someone mentioned streams on facebook so have a search - I'm trying out the 
international stream today!

ttfn

Richard

-Original Message-
From: Leedslist [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of 
{broken-address}
Sent: 19 August 2017 17:06
To: leedslist@gn.apc.org
Subject: [LU] Live stream?

If anyone has a good live stream (that isn't likely to introduce some virus 
onto my laptop) please send it along.


MOT


Sean
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Re: [LU] Getting on the front foot

[{broken-address} Richard Walker]

f'cking hilarious - Grayson with his 2 subs on 53 mins - like clockwork

  From: {broken-address} 
 To: Richard Naef  
Cc: "leedslist@gn.apc.org" 
 Sent: Saturday, 19 August 2017, 18:39
 Subject: [LU] Getting on the front foot
   
Good stuff going forward. The Prisoner of Ekuban not quite Tony Yeboah, but 
Saiz and Alioski both looking positive. Great goal from Saiz - very classy 
finish. Thought Hernandez looked irrelevant, but Roofe also looking 
lightweight. Slightly less confident when bringing it out of defence but 
Mackems are on the backfoot, which is helping.

Forza Leeds!


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Re: [LU] FW: Philips

[{broken-address} Richard Walker]

He was very good and we know he has the capability to put in performances like 
this. If he did this every week I would eat my words although I do want him to 
do really well. 
I thought we played pretty well today although I don't think Sunderland are up 
to much. They played like their crowd - shite. 
I loved the way we played in the second part of the first half with Saiz and 
Alloiski looking very dangerous especially on the counter. 
here's my scores:
new keeper - 7. Had knack all to do but the one or two bits he did well. A 
couple of dodgy kicks. 
Ayling - 8. Battled hard but had a few dodgy moments against their best player. 
I think someone with pace who has Ayling on the back foot has a chance, I think 
that's when he struggles a bit. 
Anita - 8. I thought he was very solid in fact that's what he is a very solid, 
dependable player, exactly what you need in this league because most of the 
players are not. 
Cooper - 9. Very solid defending. 
Jansson - 10. In complete control all day. Together they looked very solid 
against a toothless Sunderland attack. Kyle who ?
O'Kane - 7. I thought he was busy but his play had little quality. 
Philips - 8. Very good performance, battled hard, controlled the ball well and 
used it well. He's got consistent pace and when he gets the pace of the game he 
looks confident. Sunderland played with a slow pace which really suited him. 
Siaz - 9. Livewire. I thought he had chances and made runs that we could have 
made even more of. Great little player. 
Allioski - 9. First half he was superb , looked very dangerous and I think the 
absence of Wood allowed him and Siaz to get forward from midfield. 
Hernandez - 7. Not on long before he got injured by a ridiculous mix up with 
O'Kane but him and Siaz can definitely play together. Monk would never have 
entertained two players like that.
Ekuban - 6. I was fairly impressed in that he ran hard and when he had the ball 
he showed good control. Shame he got injured. 
Subs:
Roofe - 7. I was really disappointed (again) - he's lightweight, no pace and 
just can't stamp his authority on the game. Had a chance to play in his 
preferred role as a striker but he is no lone striker.  
Dallas - great header 
Klisch - did ok 
Overall, this was a perfect performance. The injuries are mounting up now. 


 

  From: Richard Naef 
 To: "leedslist@gn.apc.org"  
 Sent: Saturday, 19 August 2017, 19:19
 Subject: [LU] FW: Philips
   

Is it just me or has Philips had a very good game?

ttfn

Richard

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Re: [LU] Getting on the front foot

[{broken-address} Richard Walker]

definitely not, Saiz and Hernandez look good together

  From: Scott1cairns1 
 To: {broken-address}  
Cc: "leedslist@gn.apc.org" 
 Sent: Sunday, 20 August 2017, 7:47
 Subject: Re: [LU] Getting on the front foot
   
Seems to me the two injuries eukanuba and Hernandez might be blessings. Saiz 
taking over the number 10 duties with energy skill and the  start of an 
understanding with Alioski who looked great again. 
And eukanuba who looks dogshit,so may focus TC on  Strikers. 

Best regards,Scott. 

> On 19 Aug 2017, at 18:39, {broken-address} 
>  wrote:
> 
> Good stuff going forward. The Prisoner of Ekuban not quite Tony Yeboah, but 
> Saiz and Alioski both looking positive. Great goal from Saiz - very classy 
> finish. Thought Hernandez looked irrelevant, but Roofe also looking 
> lightweight. Slightly less confident when bringing it out of defence but 
> Mackems are on the backfoot, which is helping.
> 
> Forza Leeds!
> 
> 
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Re: [LU] Wood / Bridcutt

[{broken-address} Richard Walker]

and that's what I was saying all last season Dave, despite Wood's goals. 
Yes he scored a shedload but I consistently said in my match reports that the 
style of play with him in the side as a lone striker wouldn't be good enough 
for promotion. I also think his general play is not good enough for a promotion 
winning team, and so it turned out to be. 
I think he will be a spectacular failure for Burnley unless they've got 2 
wingers who can put the ball on sixpence in the 6 yard back week in week out. I 
don't think they have. 
I think the set up we've got now will involve more counter attacks and runs 
from midfield which put him in strange territory for the first two league games 
and he showed that when he has to think about things he doesn't have that 
natural goalscorers instinct. 
I have very glad to see him go and for £15 million plus ... well I'd put that 
in our top 3 transfer successes of all time. 

  From: "nat...@sky.com" 
 To: Leeds List  
 Sent: Monday, 21 August 2017, 15:44
 Subject: [LU] Wood / Bridcutt
   
It now looks like Bridcutt will be following Wood out of the door
I liked Wood and thought he was outstanding for us last year and would have got 
us 20 goals this time around BUT that is because our whole game revolved around 
him and our one plan was to feed him the ball so he could score (which he did) 
- we can  , if we get the right replacement or if Ekuban comes good, be a much 
different team up front and get more players to score the same amount of 
goals.I am not sure if his two misses this season are due to him not fitting 
into our new way of playing or just bad luck / poor finishing. Wood liked the 
ball crossed to his feet , not being played through against the keeper.

I think he will do Ok for Burnley (but don't care one way or the other) and I 
do not blame any player for going to a Premier League club - the timing of 
Wood's move does stink a bit - everyone knew or could anticipate after his 
goals last season that someone would make an offer for him. I hope that we have 
been making a few discreet enquiries behind the scenes and find a good 
replacement without having to act hastily
I am impressed with Radz comments about how and why he left and even better I 
like the free refund on 'Wood 9' shirts - a good move
Re Bridcutt - I liked him when he was on loan but never really got the clamour 
for us to sign him. Once he became a permanent player he did have as many poor 
games as good and I do prefer Vieira to him, I think Vieira has a lot more to 
offer. Given that he is 5th in line for 2 positions , maybe 6th if Anita is 
veiwed as a centre mid - O'Kane and Phillips look like first choice with Vieira 
and Klitch as back-up, I understand why Bridcutt wants to go. I would make sure 
he cannot play against us on Saturday since he is capable of doing well in any 
given game.
I was very impressed with the Sunderland performance and hope that Saiz and 
Alioski can really kick on from that game.
Maybe Roofe, with whom I am losing belief and patience, will get the chance to 
play up front tomorrow v Newport and get a couple of goals
I know nothing about Gestede or Van Grot, two players we are being linked with 
- not sure about Rhodes or Nanki Wells either - I think they have a lot of 
faults in their games but in the right team they could do OK
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Re: [LU] Jay-roy Grot

[{broken-address} Richard Walker]

they do - few comments on Twitter. 

  From: {broken-address} 
 To: "nat...@sky.com"  
Cc: Leeds List 
 Sent: Thursday, 24 August 2017, 0:36
 Subject: Re: [LU] Jay-roy Grot
   
I watched the Blackburn v Burnley game to see how Antonsson and Wood got on. 
Antonsson lightweight and anonymous, whilst Wood missed 3 decent chances. 
£15mill for him is bloody good business. I bet Burnley fans have the hump with 
him already!

Sent from my iPad

> On 23 Aug 2017, at 19:27, "nat...@sky.com"  wrote:
> 
> 19 year old - 6'" and supposed to be quite quick, so hopefully not a bad 
> additionHe is basically a replacement alongside Ekuban for Doukara & 
> Antonsson - we still need to replace Wood with someone who we know can get 
> goals at this level, not "one for the future" or  "worth taking a gamble".
> As for Doukara I still believe there is a footballer in there but his 
> attitude will ensure he does not make it at the level he should. He has upset 
> the club with his antics this week, he had his biting incident , and of 
> course was one of the sicknote six. He went missing in more games than he 
> showed up in but did do well at times and his goal last season will stay in 
> the memory, but no great loss and clearly TC did not rate him.
> So now from last seasons team we have got rid of Green from the first team 
> and Taylor, Bartley, Bridcutt, Doukara and Wood from the team altogether - 
> odd given that Green, Bartley, Bridcutt and Wood were basically the 'spine' 
> of that team , keeper, centre defence, centre midfield and centre forward
> Dave
> 
>      From: Richard Naef 
> To: leedslist  
> Sent: Wednesday, 23 August 2017, 17:43
> Subject: [LU] Jay-roy Grot
> 
> Phil Hay says deal done, announcement tomorrow.
> 
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Re: [LU] Jay-roy Grot

[{broken-address} Richard Walker]

unless I'm missing something Jim, according to his Wiki he's scored 6 league 
goals in his life ? 
seems a lot of money ? 
I'm expecting John Pearson rather than Pierre Van Hooydonk  

  From: Jim Moran 
 To: Richard Walker  
Cc: {broken-address} ; 
"nat...@sky.com" ; Leeds List 
 Sent: Friday, 25 August 2017, 10:41
 Subject: Re: [LU] Jay-roy Grot
   
Just watched some of Grot's goals. Two footed. Shoots hard, low, fast with 
little backlift. Bit like Hasselbaink. But he's also 6' 4" and built like a 
brick shithouse. He can also run.
15m for wood, and 1.5m for this kid looks like the best business Leeds have 
ever done in our history. I'm excited.
On 24 August 2017 at 08:19, {broken-address} Richard Walker 
 wrote:

they do - few comments on Twitter. 

      From: {broken-address} 
 To: "nat...@sky.com" 
Cc: Leeds List 
 Sent: Thursday, 24 August 2017, 0:36
 Subject: Re: [LU] Jay-roy Grot

I watched the Blackburn v Burnley game to see how Antonsson and Wood got on. 
Antonsson lightweight and anonymous, whilst Wood missed 3 decent chances. 
£15mill for him is bloody good business. I bet Burnley fans have the hump with 
him already!

Sent from my iPad

> On 23 Aug 2017, at 19:27, "nat...@sky.com"  wrote:
>
> 19 year old - 6'" and supposed to be quite quick, so hopefully not a bad 
> additionHe is basically a replacement alongside Ekuban for Doukara & 
> Antonsson - we still need to replace Wood with someone who we know can get 
> goals at this level, not "one for the future" or  "worth taking a gamble".
> As for Doukara I still believe there is a footballer in there but his 
> attitude will ensure he does not make it at the level he should. He has upset 
> the club with his antics this week, he had his biting incident , and of 
> course was one of the sicknote six. He went missing in more games than he 
> showed up in but did do well at times and his goal last season will stay in 
> the memory, but no great loss and clearly TC did not rate him.
> So now from last seasons team we have got rid of Green from the first team 
> and Taylor, Bartley, Bridcutt, Doukara and Wood from the team altogether - 
> odd given that Green, Bartley, Bridcutt and Wood were basically the 'spine' 
> of that team , keeper, centre defence, centre midfield and centre forward
> Dave
>
>      From: Richard Naef 
> To: leedslist 
> Sent: Wednesday, 23 August 2017, 17:43
> Subject: [LU] Jay-roy Grot
>
> Phil Hay says deal done, announcement tomorrow.
>
> Sent from my Mobile
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Re: [LU] Jay-roy Grot

[{broken-address} Richard Walker]

I think he'll back a hat-trick this weekend. 

From: Jim Moran To: Richard Walker 
Cc: nat...@sky.com ; Leeds List 
Sent: Friday, August 25, 2017, 11:09:50 AM GMT+1Subject: 
Re: [LU] Jay-roy Grot
OK perhaps I'm being a little over-optimistic, but he looks the part. 6 goals 
in 35 appearances isn't too bad for a young fella in his first season.
I'm sure the truth lies somewhere between Pearson and Van Hooydonk!
On 25 August 2017 at 10:45, Richard Walker  wrote:

unless I'm missing something Jim, according to his Wiki he's scored 6 league 
goals in his life ? 
seems a lot of money ? 
I'm expecting John Pearson rather than Pierre Van Hooydonk  

  From: Jim Moran 
 To: Richard Walker  
Cc: {broken-address} ; 
"nat...@sky.com" ; Leeds List 
 Sent: Friday, 25 August 2017, 10:41
 Subject: Re: [LU] Jay-roy Grot
   
Just watched some of Grot's goals. Two footed. Shoots hard, low, fast with 
little backlift. Bit like Hasselbaink. But he's also 6' 4" and built like a 
brick shithouse. He can also run.
15m for wood, and 1.5m for this kid looks like the best business Leeds have 
ever done in our history. I'm excited.
On 24 August 2017 at 08:19, {broken-address} Richard Walker 
 wrote:

they do - few comments on Twitter. 

      From: {broken-address} 
 To: "nat...@sky.com" 
Cc: Leeds List 
 Sent: Thursday, 24 August 2017, 0:36
 Subject: Re: [LU] Jay-roy Grot

I watched the Blackburn v Burnley game to see how Antonsson and Wood got on. 
Antonsson lightweight and anonymous, whilst Wood missed 3 decent chances. 
£15mill for him is bloody good business. I bet Burnley fans have the hump with 
him already!

Sent from my iPad

> On 23 Aug 2017, at 19:27, "nat...@sky.com"  wrote:
>
> 19 year old - 6'" and supposed to be quite quick, so hopefully not a bad 
> additionHe is basically a replacement alongside Ekuban for Doukara & 
> Antonsson - we still need to replace Wood with someone who we know can get 
> goals at this level, not "one for the future" or  "worth taking a gamble".
> As for Doukara I still believe there is a footballer in there but his 
> attitude will ensure he does not make it at the level he should. He has upset 
> the club with his antics this week, he had his biting incident , and of 
> course was one of the sicknote six. He went missing in more games than he 
> showed up in but did do well at times and his goal last season will stay in 
> the memory, but no great loss and clearly TC did not rate him.
> So now from last seasons team we have got rid of Green from the first team 
> and Taylor, Bartley, Bridcutt, Doukara and Wood from the team altogether - 
> odd given that Green, Bartley, Bridcutt and Wood were basically the 'spine' 
> of that team , keeper, centre defence, centre midfield and centre forward
> Dave
>
>      From: Richard Naef 
> To: leedslist 
> Sent: Wednesday, 23 August 2017, 17:43
> Subject: [LU] Jay-roy Grot
>
> Phil Hay says deal done, announcement tomorrow.
>
> Sent from my Mobile
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Re: [LU] Goal

[{broken-address} Richard Walker]

Generally happy with that as we continue to play in a post-Chris Wood style of 
football that in my opinion will profit us this season. However, it is a very 
difficult style to play because it involves, pace, good control , runs from 
midfield and great movement all over the pitch. I don't think all our players 
are entirely comfortable with that. Philips is my main concern and whilst he 
did nowt wrong he tends to get the ball and just pass it back. 
My other main concern is Cooper - I completely agree with what Kev wrote the 
other week, he seems to get himself the wrong side at times and then struggles 
to recover. He's a penalty case waiting to happen all afternoon. 
A word for Roofe, good goal but he still looks a yard short to me but he's got 
the chance now to make the shirt is and for me he's a much better option that 
Chris Wood especially in this style of footy. It's brilliant that we got £15 
million for a player who actually was not much use to us anymore. 
I think their no 10 looks lively and I sense he will get a good chance at some 
point. 

From: John Boocock To: "leedslist@gn.apc.org" 
Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2017, 5:59:48 PM GMT+1Subject: 
[^_LU^_] ^_Goal^_
Forest 0 Leeds 1 Roofe 24 mins

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Re: [LU] 10s all round!

[{broken-address} Richard Walker]

I don't always agree with Rob but tonight I would agree - 10 for everyone 
(maybe 9 for Hernandez and Cooper)
I'd also say I am a wanker for my criticism of Kalvin Philips - local lad and 
that tackle for the 2nd goal was one of the best I've seen for years. He's got 
his limitations but in this team , with this style of play he's doing a bloody 
great job. 
I'm just fucking elated to be honest, the most excited I've been watching Leeds 
for many a year - I had my two daughters around the tv signing MOT - the 
exciting counter attacking football is just great to watch. No big lump of Wood 
up front.
Saiz is a nast little c*nt but he's a class above and a player we've been 
crying out for years .Allioski had a bloody good left back against him today 
but he was just too good and the Forest lad was absolutely cramped up to fuck 
by the end. 
At the back, apart from Coopers antics at times we look solid and comfortable - 
you never feel there's much worry and I don't think any Leeds fans could say 
that over the last 10 years. I definitely credit Gary Monk for that but Thomas 
has taken it on. I'm reading on Twitter from Boro fans saying Monk's style is 
restrictive and not what they want. Of course it is. I actually think it;s what 
we needed but bloody hell that Thomas has come in and taken us to a new level.
I've downed a bottle of Gigondas (that's posh French wine for all you Leeds 
fuckers) during the match and I'm now about to start on some Bordeaux. Not sure 
I'm going to make the fight. 
As for the fight, I love boxing and have been a massive fan all my life. Here's 
my opinion ... Mayweather has beaten all before him and will beat McGregor - he 
aint a boxer but he is a fighter. Mayweather is old now and there's always a 
chance but I'd be surprised if he troubles him. Still intriguing though.
Goodbye horse , goodbye horse , I was saying goodbye to my horse and as I was 
saying goodbye to my horse I was saying goodbye to my horse 
WE ARE LEEDS ! 



From: Ed Morrish To: Rob Heath Cc: 
leedslist@gn.apc.org Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2017, 
7:42:37 PM GMT+1Subject: Re: [LU] 10s all round!
...been drinking, Rob...?

Sent from my iPhone

> On 26 Aug 2017, at 19:32, Rob Heath  wrote:
> 
> What a performance!
> 
> Superb from back to front, and you can tell there's a fantastic team spirit.
> 
> My only concern is that Saiz is way too good for this league and I cannot
> believe we'll keep him after January. (...or even after this
> week!.if Barcelona are smart they'd offer 25 million of their
> Neymar money and there's their replacement!)
> 
> The only one who would not get a 10 from me would be
> Christiansen.and he'd get a 12!
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Re: [LU] 10s all round!

[{broken-address} Richard Walker]

Rich. 
Got to say, like I think I'm a cunt for my criticism of Philips I think you're 
a cunt for your criticism of Saiz - he's our fucking saviour, our Gordon 
Strachan. Greedy !!?? Fuck that , he can do what he wants !  

From: Richard Naef To: Rob Heath 
; leedslist@gn.apc.org Sent: 
Saturday, August 26, 2017, 7:37:54 PM GMT+1Subject: Re: [LU] 10s all round!
Saiz is great but a bit of a greedy guts, needs to pass when other players are 
in better positions

ttfn

Richard

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Sent: 26 August 2017 19:33
To: leedslist@gn.apc.org
Subject: [LU] 10s all round!

What a performance!

Superb from back to front, and you can tell there's a fantastic team spirit.

My only concern is that Saiz is way too good for this league and I cannot 
believe we'll keep him after January. (...or even after this 
week!.if Barcelona are smart they'd offer 25 million of their 
Neymar money and there's their replacement!)

The only one who would not get a 10 from me would be Christiansen.and 
he'd get a 12!
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Re: [LU] Second goal

[{broken-address} Richard Walker]

spot on fella ! 

From: Richard Naef To: John Boocock 
; leedslist@gn.apc.org Sent: Saturday, 
August 26, 2017, 7:24:43 PM GMT+1Subject: Re: [LU] Second goal
I wish Monk and Wood all the best, but could it be them leaving was the best 
thing that happened to us?

ttfn

Richard

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Sent: 26 August 2017 19:16
To: leedslist@gn.apc.org
Subject: [LU] Second goal

Aleoski 2 nil 

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Re: [LU] Second goal

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and Chris Wood leaving ! 

From: Richard Naef To: John Boocock 
; leedslist@gn.apc.org Sent: Saturday, 
August 26, 2017, 7:24:43 PM GMT+1Subject: Re: [LU] Second goal
I wish Monk and Wood all the best, but could it be them leaving was the best 
thing that happened to us?

ttfn

Richard

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Sent: 26 August 2017 19:16
To: leedslist@gn.apc.org
Subject: [LU] Second goal

Aleoski 2 nil 

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Re: [LU] Wiedwald

[{broken-address} Richard Walker]

So am I but he's really hasn't had a save to make this season ! which says a 
lot about our defence 

From: Richard Naef To: leedslist@gn.apc.org 
Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2017, 7:01:16 PM GMT+1Subject: 
[LU] Wiedwald
..Starting to like the way this keeper/sweeper thing, he's even made a 
couple of decent saves

ttfn

Richard

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Re: [LU] Goal

[{broken-address} Richard Walker]

Grot pants looked good. 

From: Richard Naef To: leedslist@gn.apc.org 
Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2017, 6:58:33 PM GMT+1Subject: 
Re: [LU] Goal
Grot on, jeez he's a big unit.  We look very comfortable on the ball, lots of 
close passing and good runs.  Need another goal of course 

ttfn

Richard

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Sent: 26 August 2017 17:58
To: leedslist@gn.apc.org
Subject: [LU] Goal

Forest 0 Leeds 1 Roofe 24 mins

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Re: [LU] All change on keepers bench

[{broken-address} Richard Walker]

reading between the lines Green has been a disgrace. Feigning injury then not 
looking too interested when he played. Ok, he's not got much playing left but 
it looks like he's behaved like a little kid. 

From: nat...@sky.com To: Leeds List Sent: 
Sunday, August 27, 2017, 4:10:37 PM GMT+1Subject: [LU] All change on keepers 
bench
No surprise - Green gone to Hudds and Andy Longeran (aka Lonnie Donnigan with 
my mates) has come back to usProvided Felix keeps fit and does not turn into 
Ruchubka or similar it will not matter much. 

Longeran good enough back up till Bailey PF is ready
Dave
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Re: [LU] Gayle

[{broken-address} Richard Walker]

We've signed Lasogga on loan haven't we ?

From: David W To: Damian Walsh 
Cc: leedslist Sent: Wednesday, 
August 30, 2017, 8:25:04 AM GMT+1Subject: Re: [LU] Gayle
Personally would love us to get Jota from Brentford. Him, Saiz and Alioski
behind the front man, with Hernandez and Dallas able to come on would be
irresistable. Could then probably afford to send Sacko off on loan to
rediscover his mojo.

In the current crazy market, not wildly over-priced at about 7m for a 26
year old proven at this level and who would seem a good fit.

Sadly looks like Fulham are the heavy favourites to get him.



On Wed, Aug 30, 2017 at 9:13 AM, Damian Walsh 
wrote:

> I think that the quoted 18M is too much by a factor of 2 or even 3 for
> someone who allegedly has a fragile temperament.
>
> In any case his wages are probably prohibitive as well.
>
> Damian
>
> On Wed, Aug 30, 2017 at 12:54 AM, Richard Naef <
> rich...@triumph-computers.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > Looks like Fulham are going to sign him.
> >
> > On paper would seem to be a perfect replacement for Wood, not in style
> but
> > in proven goal scoring ability.  But I wonder, why would Newcastle get
> rid,
> > there is some talk of his injury being more serious than thought and/or
> > attitude problems.  Plus he would likely cost more than we got for Wood.
> >
> > ttfn
> >
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Re: [LU] Gayle

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My worry is that with all this money we start buying players that are no better 
than we have currently got and this leads to unhappy players.  We've just 
bought Grot pants who I thought looked lively and Roofe is making an argument 
for the no 9 shirt at the moment (Not convincing me mind !). If this bloke from 
Hamburg comes in Roofe and Grot pants will be sat on the bench or worse not 
even in the 18. 

From: David W To: Richard Walker 
Cc: Damian Walsh ; leedslist 
Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2017, 10:09:51 AM 
GMT+1Subject: Re: [LU] Gayle
All but it seems - Hamburg official twitter feed tweeted it last night, then 
took it back down.
Presumably being a bit pre-emptive and some last bits & bobs to be done 
(medical?).



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Re: [LU] question re Sky/TV scheduling

[{broken-address} Richard Walker]

on to more important matters 
https://www.leedsunited.com/news/club-news/22263/leeds-united-to-launch-new-fosters-fan-zone

Fosters ! FFS hope they've got some decent ale on offer. 

From: David W To: - - Cc: 
leedslist Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2017, 4:36:08 PM 
GMT+1Subject: Re: [LU] question re Sky/TV scheduling
From this link, suggests we won't know for Boro until end of Sept / start
of Oct:

https://www.efl.com/news/2017/july/sky-sports-initial-selections-made-for-matches-up-until-1st-october/

Remaining TV selection dates 2017/18: (Illustrative but subject to a
five-week minimum notice commitment)

Clubs notified of selections as follows:

- 7th October to 11th November by 25th August
- 18th November to 9th December by 29th September
- 16th December to 13th January by 3rd November
- 20th January to 3rd February by 8th December
- 10th February to 3rd March by 29th December
- 10th March to 31st March by 19th January

On Wed, Aug 30, 2017 at 2:53 PM, - -  wrote:

>    How much in advance are the announcements of games to be shown (and
>    therefore their K-O times buggered about) made?
>
>    Specifically, there's a home game v Boro on 18 Nov...set for 3pm...when
>    would I be likely to know if it wasn't going to be 3pm?
>
>    any ideas...I don't watch football on TV and won't have Murdoch
>    products in my house and still the bastard affects my life.
>
>    Nick
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Re: [LU] Cibicki Signs

[{broken-address} Richard Walker]

yep just seen the pics on twitter - striker or winger or both ?
Dallas will be rewarded with a place in the stands for his new 3 year contract 
at this rate.

From: Richard Naef To: leedslist@gn.apc.org 
Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2017, 9:18:39 PM 
GMT+1Subject: [LU] Cibicki Signs
£1.9M  From Malmo
And an interview with Vieira

http://www.thefa.com/news/2017/aug/30/ronaldo-vieira-road-to-england-300817



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Re: [LU] Cibicki Signs

[{broken-address} Richard Walker]

and of course, 
the youtube video ...looks useful. Needs his hair cut though 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5itbrj6El2M




From: {broken-address} Richard Walker 
To: Richard Naef 
; leedslist@gn.apc.org 
Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2017, 9:24:28 PM 
GMT+1Subject: Re: [LU] Cibicki Signs
yep just seen the pics on twitter - striker or winger or both ?
Dallas will be rewarded with a place in the stands for his new 3 year contract 
at this rate.

From: Richard Naef To: leedslist@gn.apc.org 
Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2017, 9:18:39 PM 
GMT+1Subject: [LU] Cibicki Signs
£1.9M  From Malmo
And an interview with Vieira

http://www.thefa.com/news/2017/aug/30/ronaldo-vieira-road-to-england-300817



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Re: [LU] Cibicki Signs

[{broken-address} Richard Walker]

>>>>Not sure whether that means we will change to 4 4 2 or if he will be 
>>>>fighting for a place up top with Lasogga (and Ekuban and >>>>Roofe ) 
>>>>assuming he signs

Don't forget Grot Dave. 



From: nat...@sky.com To: Leeds List Sent: 
Thursday, 31 August 2017, 09:33:46 BSTSubject: Re: [LU] Cibicki Signs
If this quote is true it should not affect Dallas "It’s been claimed Cibicki 
has signed for a transfer fee in the region of £1.9m, and his agent has also 
revealed the youngster will be deployed in a central attacking role, and not as 
a winger."
Not sure whether that means we will change to 4 4 2 or if he will be fighting 
for a place up top with Lasogga (and Ekuban and Roofe ) assuming he signs
Dave
      From: {broken-address} Richard Walker 

 To: Richard Naef ; "leedslist@gn.apc.org" 
 
 Sent: Wednesday, 30 August 2017, 21:24
 Subject: Re: [LU] Cibicki Signs
  
yep just seen the pics on twitter - striker or winger or both ?
Dallas will be rewarded with a place in the stands for his new 3 year contract 
at this rate.

From: Richard Naef To: leedslist@gn.apc.org 
Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2017, 9:18:39 PM 
GMT+1Subject: [LU] Cibicki Signs
£1.9M  From Malmo
And an interview with Vieira

http://www.thefa.com/news/2017/aug/30/ronaldo-vieira-road-to-england-300817



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[LU] Deadline day

[{broken-address} Richard Walker]

Looks like we might have stiffed Hamburg over Lasogga ? Maybe we were hedging 
our bets with the finnish guy and when we got him there was no need for Lasogga 
so we claimed Hamburg haven't sent some paperwork through - classic, 

From: David W To: - - Cc: 
leedslist Sent: Thursday, 31 August 2017, 11:14:58 
BSTSubject: Re: [LU] question re Sky/TV scheduling
Just announced:

The Yorkshire derby against Garry Monk’s Middlesbrough has also been
selected for television, with the game moved a day later to 1:15pm on
Sunday 19th November.

On Wed, Aug 30, 2017 at 5:35 PM, David W  wrote:

> From this link, suggests we won't know for Boro until end of Sept / start
> of Oct:
>
> https://www.efl.com/news/2017/july/sky-sports-initial-
> selections-made-for-matches-up-until-1st-october/
>
> Remaining TV selection dates 2017/18: (Illustrative but subject to a
> five-week minimum notice commitment)
>
> Clubs notified of selections as follows:
>
> - 7th October to 11th November by 25th August
> - 18th November to 9th December by 29th September
> - 16th December to 13th January by 3rd November
> - 20th January to 3rd February by 8th December
> - 10th February to 3rd March by 29th December
> - 10th March to 31st March by 19th January
>
> On Wed, Aug 30, 2017 at 2:53 PM, - -  wrote:
>
>>    How much in advance are the announcements of games to be shown (and
>>    therefore their K-O times buggered about) made?
>>
>>    Specifically, there's a home game v Boro on 18 Nov...set for 3pm...when
>>    would I be likely to know if it wasn't going to be 3pm?
>>
>>    any ideas...I don't watch football on TV and won't have Murdoch
>>    products in my house and still the bastard affects my life.
>>
>>    Nick
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Re: [LU] Anticpated squad at end of day

[{broken-address} Richard Walker]

just been announced on Twitter Dave - Lasogga has signed for the season which 
suggests to me he will be a starter. 
It's starting to look like the days when Robbie Keane was 4th striker and had 
to be content with coming on and scoring in the 85th minute. 
I hope TC can manage this lot. Lasogga looks like a tw&t - I base that on 
nothing other than looking at his youtube vid. 

From: nat...@sky.com To: Leeds List Sent: 
Thursday, 31 August 2017, 15:04:28 BSTSubject: [LU] Anticpated squad at end of 
day
Subject to Lasogga signing as expected and no last minute ins or outs this is 
the squad that we hope will take us to the top, or near the top, of the table 
by the time the January window opens
GK - Wiedwald , Longeran, Peacock Farrell
Defenders Cooper, Jansson, Pennington, Shaunessey, Ayling, Berardi, 
Borthwick-Jackson, Anita
Midfield Phillips, O'Kane, Klitch, Vieira, Siaz, Alisoki, Sacko, Dallas, 
Hernandez, 

Strikers, Lasogga, Roofe, Cibicki, Ekuban, Grot
Lots of different nationalities there and lots of players who can fit into more 
than one of the 3 normal catagories - eg Anita can be midfield as can Roofe, 
Grot and maybe Cibicki
Given the way TC has started the season the starting XI with cover in brackets 
looks like this (some players in more than one position and this is TC's likely 
choice not necessarily what i would go with 

As a 4 2 3 1 ( again I can see this being fluid in different games etc, but it 
is what TC has done so far)
Weidwald (Longeran)


Ayling  (Berardi, Anita)   Cooper  Jansson   (Pennington, Shaunessey, 
Ayling)     Berardi    (Anita, Borthwick-Jackson)


Phillips    O'Kane  (Klich, Vieira, Anita )


Alioski     Saiz    Hernandez (Grot, Dallas, Sacko, Roofe, Cibicki)

Lasogga                (Ekuban, Roofe, Grot, Cibicki)
In addition we have Gomes and a number of other foreign imports in the u23 team 
who may make a break through and maybe , but more unlikely Stokes who played in 
LC)
If Saiz and Alioski can keep it up for the season (oh er missus) and the new 
lads, Grot, Cibicki, Lasogga, and of course Klich are anything like Orta and 
his scouts are expecting that is a fairly strong squad with lots of movement, 
pace and interchange available and decent cover for every position  - against 
this we have lost Green Taylor, Bartley, Bridcutt and Wood,I do believe that 
things are looking bright (of course all this could change once I have seen 
some of them actually play football !!)-  

Dave

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Re: [LU] Anticpated squad at end of day

[{broken-address} Richard Walker]

Yes I find it v.frustrating that we've not heard about Pennington since he was 
injured. Why is that ? 
I don't think Cooper is the answer despite a few decent games 

From: nat...@sky.com To: Leeds List Sent: 
Thursday, 31 August 2017, 16:50:01 BSTSubject: Re: [LU] Anticpated squad at end 
of day
TC seems very reluctant to give any info about injured players, but from what i 
have read both Berardi and Pennington should be back in training and possibly 
available for the Burton game. Ekuban has a more long term injury having had 
(or needing) an operation on a broken bone in his footO'Kane is another concern 
- he has pulled out of Irish squad with a recurrence of his groin injury - the 
one that cost him his place last season.
Given the strength in depth that we now seem to have , we should be OK - Cooper 
has worked miracles and will probably keep Pennington out of the team (he may 
even have been preferred over him from the start, given that he was made 
captain) Anita has done  a great job as back up for Berardi and made sure he 
has not been missed (plus we have Borthwick-Jackson)
O'Kane -if he is out for a while- will be replace either by Vieira, whom many 
of us think is the best of the four defence midfielders, or Klich who should be 
good once he is fully fit, or even by Anita, so gain, whilst a blow not a 
serious one

As we are constantly being reminded, it is a long hard season, with scope for 
lots of injuries, suspensions and loss of form / tiredness and so is more and 
more a squad game rather than a team game
Will the first XI below and the 'reserves' I have listed it appears that we 
have cover for every position and no one player (unlike Wood last year) is 
irreplaceable (as long as Longeran is still up to the job if called upon)
Dave

      From: "seanscr...@aol.com" 
 To: nat...@sky.com; leedslist@gn.apc.org 
 Sent: Thursday, 31 August 2017, 16:21
 Subject: Re: [LU] Anticpated squad at end of day
  
Looks good on paper. Of course, three of those players are already injured.
Cheers!
Sean


-Original Message-
From: nattan 
To: Leeds List 
Sent: Thu, Aug 31, 2017 10:05 am
Subject: [LU] Anticpated squad at end of day

Subject to Lasogga signing as expected and no last minute ins or outs this is 
the squad that we hope will take us to the top, or near the top, of the table 
by the time the January window opensGK - Wiedwald , Longeran, Peacock 
FarrellDefenders Cooper, Jansson, Pennington, Shaunessey, Ayling, Berardi, 
Borthwick-Jackson, AnitaMidfield Phillips, O'Kane, Klitch, Vieira, Siaz, 
Alisoki, Sacko, Dallas, Hernandez, Strikers, Lasogga, Roofe, Cibicki, Ekuban, 
GrotLots of different nationalities there and lots of players who can fit into 
more than one of the 3 normal catagories - eg Anita can be midfield as can 
Roofe, Grot and maybe CibickiGiven the way TC has started the season the 
starting XI with cover in brackets looks like this (some players in more than 
one position and this is TC's likely choice not necessarily what i would go 
with As a 4 2 3 1 ( again I can see this being fluid in different games etc, 
but it is what TC has done so far)Weidwald (Longeran)Ayling  (Berardi, Anita)   
    Cooper  Jansson   (Pennington, Shaunessey, Ayling)     Berardi    
(Anita, Borthwick-Jackson)Phillips    O'Kane  (Klich, 
Vieira, Anita )Alioski     Saiz    Hernandez (Grot, Dallas, Sacko, 
Roofe, Cibicki)Lasogga                (Ekuban, Roofe, Grot, Cibicki)In addition 
we have Gomes and a number of other foreign imports in the u23 team who may 
make a break through and maybe , but more unlikely Stokes who played in LC)If 
Saiz and Alioski can keep it up for the season (oh er missus) and the new lads, 
Grot, Cibicki, Lasogga, and of course Klich are anything like Orta and his 
scouts are expecting that is a fairly strong squad with lots of movement, pace 
and interchange available and decent cover for every position  - against this 
we have lost Green Taylor, Bartley, Bridcutt and Wood,I do believe that things 
are looking bright (of course all this could change once I have seen some of 
them actually play football !!)-  
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Re: [LU] Full list of ins / outs (assiming windows closed for us ?)

[{broken-address} Richard Walker]

How much profit has the owner made out of that ? 

From: nat...@sky.com To: Leeds List Sent: 
Thursday, 31 August 2017, 20:11:08 BSTSubject: [LU] Full list of ins / outs 
(assiming windows closed for us ?)
Taken from waccoe
   Ins:  Hadi Sacko(Lisbon), Pontus Jansson(Torino), Mateusz Klich(FC Twente), 
Felix Wiedwald(Werder Bremen), Vurnon Anita(Newcastle), Samuel Saiz(SD Huesca), 
Caleb Ekuban(Chievo Verona), Ezgjan Alioski(Lugano), Matthew Pennington(Everton 
- Loan), Cameron Borthwick-Jackson(Man Utd - Loan), Jay-Roy Grot(NEC), Andy 
Lonergan(Wolves), Pawel Cibicki(Malmo), Pierre-Michel Lasogga(Hamburg - Loan)

Development team: Madgar Gomes(Liverpool), Josh Rae(Celtic), Bryce 
Hosannah(Crystal Palace), Oriol Rey Erenas(Barcelona), Hugo Diaz(Deportivo 
Fabril), Alex Machuca(Rayo Vallecano), Adrain Balboa(U.D. Unificación 
Bellvitge), Ousama Siddiki(Real Madrid Juvenil), Kun Temenuzhkov(Barcelona 
Juvenil)   Ouasim Bouy(Juventus),

Outs: Erwin(Kilmarnock), Silvestri(Hellas Verona), Bellusci(Palermo), 
Taylor(Burnley), Turnbull, Botaka(Sint-Truidense), Chris Wood(Burnley), 
Bridcutt(Forest), Doukara(Osmanlıspor), Diagouraga, Green(Huddersfield) - plus 
Purver (Guiseley), Whitehouse(Alfrton Town), Vann(Harrogate) and Taylor

Out on Loan: Coyle(Fleetwood - Loan), Murphy(Burton - Loan), Denton(Port Vale - 
Loan), Bouy(CyD Leonesa - Loan), Antonsson(Blackburn - Loan), Wilks(Accrington 
Stanley)

Loan Returns: Bartley(Swansea), Barrow(Swansea), Grimes(Swansea), 
Pedraza(Villarreal)
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[LU] Mowett

[{broken-address} Richard Walker]

I see Mowett didn't impress at Barnsley and has now dropped down a league to 
Oxford. 
Shame but it was clear from early doors his lack of pace would ultimately mean 
he wouldn't make it  
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Re: [LU] Full list of ins / outs (assiming windows closed for us ?)

[{broken-address} Richard Walker]

 not disagreeing Dr and playing devil's advocate. I haven't been as excited 
about Leeds since Mark Gavin scored the winner at Rotherham. I will also be 
having a drink in the new Foster's bar next week. 
However the question still stands - he pocketed around £26 million for Wood, 
Taylor and Bridcutt and without adding it up all the incomings do not exceed 
that so nice profit for him. 
Also, you could argue that he sold our best player and 30 goals a season 
striker and replaced him with a loan signing. We all know about loan signings. 
On Friday, 1 September 2017, 05:47:57 BST, Michael Benjamin 
 wrote:  
 
 If that is your question, I feel sorry for you. 
Ask, how have we profited? Moreover, if you really cannot see it, then I'll 
tell you. 
It is not, 'so far, so good.' 
AR has been a revelation. 

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|-Original Message-
|From: Leedslist [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of {broken-
|address} Richard Walker
|Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2017 10:23 PM
|To: nat...@sky.com; Leeds List 
|Subject: Re: [LU] Full list of ins / outs (assiming windows closed for us ?)
|
|How much profit has the owner made out of that ?
|
|From: nat...@sky.com To: Leeds List
|Sent: Thursday, 31 August 2017, 20:11:08 BSTSubject:
|[LU] Full list of ins / outs (assiming windows closed for us ?) Taken from 
waccoe
|   Ins:  Hadi Sacko(Lisbon), Pontus Jansson(Torino), Mateusz Klich(FC
|Twente), Felix Wiedwald(Werder Bremen), Vurnon Anita(Newcastle), Samuel
|Saiz(SD Huesca), Caleb Ekuban(Chievo Verona), Ezgjan Alioski(Lugano), Matthew
|Pennington(Everton - Loan), Cameron Borthwick-Jackson(Man Utd - Loan), Jay-
|Roy Grot(NEC), Andy Lonergan(Wolves), Pawel Cibicki(Malmo), Pierre-Michel
|Lasogga(Hamburg - Loan)
|
|Development team: Madgar Gomes(Liverpool), Josh Rae(Celtic), Bryce
|Hosannah(Crystal Palace), Oriol Rey Erenas(Barcelona), Hugo Diaz(Deportivo
|Fabril), Alex Machuca(Rayo Vallecano), Adrain Balboa(U.D. Unificación
|Bellvitge), Ousama Siddiki(Real Madrid Juvenil), Kun Temenuzhkov(Barcelona
|Juvenil)   Ouasim Bouy(Juventus),
|
|Outs: Erwin(Kilmarnock), Silvestri(Hellas
|Verona), Bellusci(Palermo), Taylor(Burnley), Turnbull, Botaka(Sint-Truidense),
|Chris Wood(Burnley), Bridcutt(Forest), Doukara(Osmanlıspor), Diagouraga,
|Green(Huddersfield) - plus Purver (Guiseley), Whitehouse(Alfrton Town),
|Vann(Harrogate) and Taylor
|
|Out on Loan: Coyle(Fleetwood - Loan), Murphy(Burton - Loan), Denton(Port Vale
|- Loan), Bouy(CyD Leonesa - Loan), Antonsson(Blackburn - Loan),
|Wilks(Accrington Stanley)
|
|Loan Returns: Bartley(Swansea), Barrow(Swansea), Grimes(Swansea),
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Re: [LU] Full list of ins / outs (assiming windows closed for us ?)

[{broken-address} Richard Walker]

 Wood - £18 mill Taylor - £7Bridcutt - £1 mill 
On Friday, 1 September 2017, 08:38:04 BST, Richard Naef 
 wrote:  
 
 I think the incoming money is closer to £22million and outgoing £16m. On top 
of that the new deals for lots of first teamers and the money paid for the club 
and the ground I don't think AR's pockets are bulging. Sure in the long run I 
think he's in it to make big bucks, but I think he's a proper business man who 
understands the need to invest. He's also spent time and money on the U23s Kun 
Temenuzhkov looks like a real future star.

Sent from my Mobile

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Subject: Re: [LU] Full list of ins / outs (assiming windows closed for us ?)
From: {broken-address} Richard Walker
To: {broken-address} Richard Walker ,nat...@sky.com,Leeds List ,Michael Benjamin
CC:

not disagreeing Dr and playing devil's advocate. I haven't been as excited 
about Leeds since Mark Gavin scored the winner at Rotherham. I will also be 
having a drink in the new Foster's bar next week.
However the question still stands - he pocketed around £26 million for Wood, 
Taylor and Bridcutt and without adding it up all the incomings do not exceed 
that so nice profit for him.
Also, you could argue that he sold our best player and 30 goals a season 
striker and replaced him with a loan signing. We all know about loan signings.
    On Friday, 1 September 2017, 05:47:57 BST, Michael Benjamin 
 wrote:

 If that is your question, I feel sorry for you.
Ask, how have we profited? Moreover, if you really cannot see it, then I'll 
tell you.
It is not, 'so far, so good.'
AR has been a revelation.

Dr  Michael Benjamin,
Community Psychiatrist.

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|-Original Message-
|From: Leedslist [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of {broken-
|address} Richard Walker
|Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2017 10:23 PM
|To: nat...@sky.com; Leeds List 
|Subject: Re: [LU] Full list of ins / outs (assiming windows closed for us ?)
|
|How much profit has the owner made out of that ?
|
|From: nat...@sky.com To: Leeds List
|Sent: Thursday, 31 August 2017, 20:11:08 BSTSubject:
|[LU] Full list of ins / outs (assiming windows closed for us ?) Taken from 
waccoe
|  Ins:  Hadi Sacko(Lisbon), Pontus Jansson(Torino), Mateusz Klich(FC
|Twente), Felix Wiedwald(Werder Bremen), Vurnon Anita(Newcastle), Samuel
|Saiz(SD Huesca), Caleb Ekuban(Chievo Verona), Ezgjan Alioski(Lugano), Matthew
|Pennington(Everton - Loan), Cameron Borthwick-Jackson(Man Utd - Loan), Jay-
|Roy Grot(NEC), Andy Lonergan(Wolves), Pawel Cibicki(Malmo), Pierre-Michel
|Lasogga(Hamburg - Loan)
|
|Development team: Madgar Gomes(Liverpool), Josh Rae(Celtic), Bryce
|Hosannah(Crystal Palace), Oriol Rey Erenas(Barcelona), Hugo Diaz(Deportivo
|Fabril), Alex Machuca(Rayo Vallecano), Adrain Balboa(U.D. Unificación
|Bellvitge), Ousama Siddiki(Real Madrid Juvenil), Kun Temenuzhkov(Barcelona
|Juvenil)  Ouasim Bouy(Juventus),
|
|Outs: Erwin(Kilmarnock), Silvestri(Hellas
|Verona), Bellusci(Palermo), Taylor(Burnley), Turnbull, Botaka(Sint-Truidense),
|Chris Wood(Burnley), Bridcutt(Forest), Doukara(Osmanlıspor), Diagouraga,
|Green(Huddersfield) - plus Purver (Guiseley), Whitehouse(Alfrton Town),
|Vann(Harrogate) and Taylor
|
|Out on Loan: Coyle(Fleetwood - Loan), Murphy(Burton - Loan), Denton(Port Vale
|- Loan), Bouy(CyD Leonesa - Loan), Antonsson(Blackburn - Loan),
|Wilks(Accrington Stanley)
|
|Loan Returns: Bartley(Swansea), Barrow(Swansea), Grimes(Swansea),
|Pedraza(Villarreal) ___
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Re: [LU] Dr. Mike and Rich

[{broken-address} Richard Walker]

 actually we have disagreed quite a bit as a result of Cellino who he thought 
was the devil and I thought if nothing else cared about LUFC. 
On Friday, 1 September 2017, 09:22:59 BST, Michael Gardiner 
 wrote:  
 
 I'm not the regular I once was though I do lurk from time to time and comment 
less frequently even when I lurk.  That said there's a constant:  Dr. Mike and 
Rich Walker getting it on.

Boys?  Get a room.

MAG
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Re: [LU] Full list of ins / outs (assiming windows closed for us ?)

[{broken-address} Richard Walker]

 Completely agree and I firmly believe he would not have sold to any old 
fucker. He ensured AR was going to be good for the club.


> On 1 Sep 2017, at 14:11, Damian Walsh  wrote:
> 
> Regardless of the high-profile departures and regardless of the sums
> involved, I think this summer has, for us, completed a transition from a
> selling club to a buying club.
> 
> And credit where it is due - Cellino started off that transition, and I
> don't think that we would be anywhere near where we are today without him.
> Football being what it is, I'm sure that one day or another someone else
> would have turned up but be that as it may, we truly can hail Cellino as
> the Saviour of Leeds (at least for this boom & bust cycle anyway).
> 
> I'd buy him a beer.
> 
> Damian
> 
> On Fri, Sep 1, 2017 at 10:32 AM, MATTHEW GAYNOR <
> matthew.gayn...@btopenworld.com> wrote:
> 
>> Would also need to add in the money paid to players 'who left by mutual
>> consent' - i suspect its break even at best
>> Matt
>> 
>>  From: Richard Naef 
>> To: Richard Walker ; {broken-address} Richard
>> Walker ; "nat...@sky.com" <
>> nat...@sky.com>; Leeds List ; Michael Benjamin <
>> m...@myray.com>
>> Sent: Friday, 1 September 2017, 9:18
>> Subject: Re: [LU] Full list of ins / outs (assiming windows closed for us
>> ?)
>> 
>> I think those figures for wood and Taylor are including possible add-ons
>> not money guaranteed.
>> 
>> Sent from my Mobile
>> 
>>  Original Message 
>> Subject: Re: Re: [LU] Full list of ins / outs (assiming windows closed for
>> us ?)
>> From: Richard Walker
>> To: {broken-address} Richard Walker ,nat...@sky.com,Leeds List ,Michael
>> Benjamin ,Richard Naef
>> CC:
>> 
>> Wood - £18 mill
>> Taylor - £7
>> Bridcutt - £1 mill
>> 
>> On Friday, 1 September 2017, 08:38:04 BST, Richard Naef <
>> rich...@triumph-computers.co.uk> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> I think the incoming money is closer to £22million and outgoing £16m. On
>> top of that the new deals for lots of first teamers and the money paid for
>> the club and the ground I don't think AR's pockets are bulging. Sure in the
>> long run I think he's in it to make big bucks, but I think he's a proper
>> business man who understands the need to invest. He's also spent time and
>> money on the U23s Kun Temenuzhkov looks like a real future star.
>> 
>> Sent from my Mobile
>> 
>>  Original Message 
>> Subject: Re: [LU] Full list of ins / outs (assiming windows closed for us
>> ?)
>> From: {broken-address} Richard Walker
>> To: {broken-address} Richard Walker 
>> ,nat...@sky.com<mailto:nat...@sky.com>,Leeds
>> List ,Michael Benjamin
>> CC:
>> 
>> not disagreeing Dr and playing devil's advocate. I haven't been as excited
>> about Leeds since Mark Gavin scored the winner at Rotherham. I will also be
>> having a drink in the new Foster's bar next week.
>> However the question still stands - he pocketed around £26 million for
>> Wood, Taylor and Bridcutt and without adding it up all the incomings do not
>> exceed that so nice profit for him.
>> Also, you could argue that he sold our best player and 30 goals a season
>> striker and replaced him with a loan signing. We all know about loan
>> signings.
>>On Friday, 1 September 2017, 05:47:57 BST, Michael Benjamin <
>> m...@myray.com<mailto:m...@myray.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> If that is your question, I feel sorry for you.
>> Ask, how have we profited? Moreover, if you really cannot see it, then
>> I'll tell you.
>> It is not, 'so far, so good.'
>> AR has been a revelation.
>> 
>> Dr  Michael Benjamin,
>> Community Psychiatrist.
>> 
>> SKYPE: BEDENOGA
>> PHONE: +972-505-317772
>> BLOG: Times Of Israel ||Quora ||Jerusalem Post
>> AMAZON AUTHORS PAGE;
>> myRay: Online CBT
>> 
>> |-Original Message-
>> |From: Leedslist [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org<mailto:leedslist-
>> boun...@gn.apc.org>] On Behalf Of {broken-
>> |address} Richard Walker
>> |Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2017 10:23 PM
>> |To: nat...@sky.com<mailto:nat...@sky.com>; Leeds List <
>> leedslist@gn.apc.org<mailto:leedslist@gn.apc.org>>
>> |Subject: Re: [LU] Full list of ins / outs (assiming windows closed for us
>> ?)
>> |
>> |How much profit has the owner made out of that ?
>&

Re: [LU] So..........

[{broken-address} Richard Walker]

 I watched in preference to the England game and I have to say it was garbage. 
We didn't look like a team and nobody impressed. Colchester were the better 
team and should have won. 
On Sunday, 3 September 2017, 09:19:55 BST, Rob Heath  
wrote:  
 
 did anybody watch that u/23 game that was free on LUTV?

I;m sure Dave Nattan did.

What's the verdict on all these fledgling superstars we've snapped up?
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Re: [LU] Good interview with Orta - some insight etc

[{broken-address} Richard Walker]

 I don't trust him - dodgy looking 
On Tuesday, 5 September 2017, 02:12:34 BST, Rob Heath  
wrote:  
 
 I love that guy!

Hard to understand though.

On Tue, Sep 5, 2017 at 4:38 AM, nat...@sky.com  wrote:

> https://www.facebook.com/LeedsUnited/
>
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