from:"Chris"

Arthur Brown, Christie, Delta 5, Mekons, Gang of 4, Sister of Mercy, Soft
Cell, The Mission, March Violets, Chumbawamba, Bolshoi, and that's just
taking us to the start of the 90s, and I've probably missed out a few.
Massive underepresentation?

On 2 July 2015 at 11:49, Richard Naef rich...@triumph-computers.co.uk
wrote:

 actually this thread reminds me of a thought I was thinking while at
 Glasto*
 this year.  Why is Leeds so underrepresented in the Music business, forget
 about comparing it with London, Manchester or Liverpool, it's pretty
 underwhelming compared to Sheffield or Wolverhampton!

 Is it cos too few Irish made it across the Pennines, or is it cos Yorkshire
 folk are more interested in making money than music?  or am I missing
 something?

 *As usual there was a Leeds flag flying proud at most stages.  Favourite
 Glasto moment, asking at the Yorkie, Yorkshire pudding stand, do you do one
 with a veggie sausage?  His mouth said sorry mate No, his eyes said fcuk
 off
 you twat.

 ttfn

 Richard


 
  Ladies,
 
  Can I crave your indulgence for a short commercial break?
 
  Below is the link to the Kickstarter campaign for Dunstan's Bruce's film
 I Get
  Knocked Down about what happened to Chumbawamba when they
  accidentally had that hit single and what they tried to do once they
 found
  themselves in that position!  The blurb in the KS campaign explains what
  Dunstan's hoping to do with the film so I won't blah on here.
 
  https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/dunstanbruce/i-get-knocked-down-
  the-untold-story-of-chumbawamba
 
  This is the follow up film to Dunst's epic about the Levellers: A
 Curious
 Life.
  Dunst would more than likely be chuffed to buggery if you had a skeg at
 the
  page, and if you feel up to it, share it with as many people as possible
 and
  even contribute; that would be lovely! All help on all fronts is most
  gratefully received.
 
  There's also a web page at http://www.igetknockeddown.com/ and the usual
  twitter and Facebook things (you know what to do)
 
  My recollections of the band are that they were always loveable, but
 that's
  because they had the sense to check out Armley (and I don't mean the
  Castle).  Dunstan is also looking for any guff anyone might have from the
  band's history the contact email for that is:
  i...@igetknockeddown.com mailto:i...@igetknockeddown.com
 
  Commercial Break Over and back to that all important closed season.
 
  Betty
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Re: [LU] NON LU: Commercial Post Punk Break

Fair enough, although I only went to the early 90s.

Sent from my ayeayePhone

On 2 Jul 2015, at 12:35, Richard Naef rich...@triumph-computers.co.uk wrote:

 
 
 I didn't say massive, and you've missed out Alt-J, Utah Saints and Kaisers, 
 but look at Sheffield, Def Leppard, Pulp, Arctic Monkeys, ABC, Cabaret 
 Voltaire, Joe Cocker, Human League, Bruce Dickinson, LFO, Moloko?
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Subject: Re: [LU] NON LU: Commercial Post Punk Break
 
 
 
 Arthur Brown, Christie, Delta 5, Mekons, Gang of 4, Sister of Mercy, Soft 
 Cell, The Mission, March Violets, Chumbawamba, Bolshoi, and that's just 
 taking us to the start of the 90s, and I've probably missed out a few. 
 Massive underepresentation?
 
 
 
 On 2 July 2015 at 11:49, Richard Naef rich...@triumph-computers.co.uk wrote:
 
 actually this thread reminds me of a thought I was thinking while at Glasto*
 this year.  Why is Leeds so underrepresented in the Music business, forget
 about comparing it with London, Manchester or Liverpool, it's pretty
 underwhelming compared to Sheffield or Wolverhampton!
 
 Is it cos too few Irish made it across the Pennines, or is it cos Yorkshire
 folk are more interested in making money than music?  or am I missing
 something?
 
 *As usual there was a Leeds flag flying proud at most stages.  Favourite
 Glasto moment, asking at the Yorkie, Yorkshire pudding stand, do you do one
 with a veggie sausage?  His mouth said sorry mate No, his eyes said fcuk off
 you twat.
 
 ttfn
 
 Richard
 
 
 
 
 Ladies,
 
 Can I crave your indulgence for a short commercial break?
 
 Below is the link to the Kickstarter campaign for Dunstan's Bruce's film
 I Get
 Knocked Down about what happened to Chumbawamba when they
 accidentally had that hit single and what they tried to do once they found
 themselves in that position!  The blurb in the KS campaign explains what
 Dunstan's hoping to do with the film so I won't blah on here.
 
 https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/dunstanbruce/i-get-knocked-down-
 the-untold-story-of-chumbawamba
 
 This is the follow up film to Dunst's epic about the Levellers: A Curious
 Life.
 Dunst would more than likely be chuffed to buggery if you had a skeg at
 the
 page, and if you feel up to it, share it with as many people as possible
 and
 even contribute; that would be lovely! All help on all fronts is most
 gratefully received.
 
 There's also a web page at http://www.igetknockeddown.com/ and the usual
 twitter and Facebook things (you know what to do)
 
 My recollections of the band are that they were always loveable, but
 that's
 because they had the sense to check out Armley (and I don't mean the
 Castle).  Dunstan is also looking for any guff anyone might have from the
 band's history the contact email for that is:
 i...@igetknockeddown.com mailto:i...@igetknockeddown.com
 
 Commercial Break Over and back to that all important closed season.
 
 Betty
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Re: [LU] NON LU: Commercial Post Punk Break

Scroll back - I mentioned Christie, John...

On 2 July 2015 at 13:20, John Boocock j...@boocock.net wrote:


 Nice to see that you have all missed out Jeff Christie, The Crestas, The
 Clarry Wilson Combo and of course the Marper Gibson Duo.

 Offcomners the lot of ye :-)

 Betty

 (feeling sprightly before the Worldnet vets at Bodington this weekend)

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Re: [LU] NON LU: Commercial Post Punk Break

Cribs are Wakefield.

Sent from my ayeayePhone

On 2 Jul 2015, at 18:23, Nick Allen n...@6haroldplace.co.uk wrote:

 the Cribs
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
 On 2 Jul 2015, at 16:56, Joe Skinner jacksonpollocks...@hotmail.com wrote:
 
 Never liked Cud but saw the bridewells a few times.
 
 
 More cowbell needed on their BOC cover, though.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Sent from Windows Mail
 
 
 
 
 
 From: Matt Anderson
 Sent: ‎Thursday‎, ‎2‎ ‎July‎ ‎2015 ‎16‎:‎32
 To: Chris Nickson
 Cc: leedslist@gn.apc.org
 
 
 
 
 
 Cud and the bridewell taxis!!!
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 2 Jul 2015, at 14:48, Chris Nickson chrisnicks...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Fair enough, although I only went to the early 90s.
 
 Sent from my ayeayePhone
 
 On 2 Jul 2015, at 12:35, Richard Naef rich...@triumph-computers.co.uk 
 wrote:
 
 
 
 I didn't say massive, and you've missed out Alt-J, Utah Saints and 
 Kaisers, but look at Sheffield, Def Leppard, Pulp, Arctic Monkeys, ABC, 
 Cabaret Voltaire, Joe Cocker, Human League, Bruce Dickinson, LFO, Moloko?
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Subject: Re: [LU] NON LU: Commercial Post Punk Break
 
 
 
 Arthur Brown, Christie, Delta 5, Mekons, Gang of 4, Sister of Mercy, Soft 
 Cell, The Mission, March Violets, Chumbawamba, Bolshoi, and that's just 
 taking us to the start of the 90s, and I've probably missed out a few. 
 Massive underepresentation?
 
 
 
 On 2 July 2015 at 11:49, Richard Naef rich...@triumph-computers.co.uk 
 wrote:
 
 actually this thread reminds me of a thought I was thinking while at 
 Glasto*
 this year.  Why is Leeds so underrepresented in the Music business, forget
 about comparing it with London, Manchester or Liverpool, it's pretty
 underwhelming compared to Sheffield or Wolverhampton!
 
 Is it cos too few Irish made it across the Pennines, or is it cos Yorkshire
 folk are more interested in making money than music?  or am I missing
 something?
 
 *As usual there was a Leeds flag flying proud at most stages.  Favourite
 Glasto moment, asking at the Yorkie, Yorkshire pudding stand, do you do one
 with a veggie sausage?  His mouth said sorry mate No, his eyes said fcuk 
 off
 you twat.
 
 ttfn
 
 Richard
 
 
 
 
 Ladies,
 
 Can I crave your indulgence for a short commercial break?
 
 Below is the link to the Kickstarter campaign for Dunstan's Bruce's film
 I Get
 Knocked Down about what happened to Chumbawamba when they
 accidentally had that hit single and what they tried to do once they found
 themselves in that position!  The blurb in the KS campaign explains what
 Dunstan's hoping to do with the film so I won't blah on here.
 
 https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/dunstanbruce/i-get-knocked-down-
 the-untold-story-of-chumbawamba
 
 This is the follow up film to Dunst's epic about the Levellers: A Curious
 Life.
 Dunst would more than likely be chuffed to buggery if you had a skeg at
 the
 page, and if you feel up to it, share it with as many people as possible
 and
 even contribute; that would be lovely! All help on all fronts is most
 gratefully received.
 
 There's also a web page at http://www.igetknockeddown.com/ and the usual
 twitter and Facebook things (you know what to do)
 
 My recollections of the band are that they were always loveable, but
 that's
 because they had the sense to check out Armley (and I don't mean the
 Castle).  Dunstan is also looking for any guff anyone might have from the
 band's history the contact email for that is:
 i...@igetknockeddown.com mailto:i...@igetknockeddown.com
 
 Commercial Break Over and back to that all important closed season.
 
 Betty
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[LU] [NON-LU] Thanks.

2015-06-25 Thread Chris Briggs

Thanks to all those that have voted for my poem entry for Nozstock.

You'll all be pleased to know that my entry seems to be in third place with 121 
thumbs-up (1st was 170, 2nd was 132) and the voting has now CLOSED (so I won't 
be bugging you again).

I got the third most liked poem out of 30 which is brilliant and more than I 
hoped for. The poem with the most votes is actually my favourite (and one I 
actually voted for, as well as mine obviously).

What happens now is the judges take the top 10 poems and whittle that down to 
their own 5 favourites and these 5 then get to take part in the live final at 
this years festival.

I should know on 1st July if I have got any further.

Thanks for the support, it's appreciated and I'll let you know how I get on.

Back to the usual closed season best curry house/chippy/boozer/list meet 
nonsense.

Cheers Lads (and BOTLs)
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[LU] [NON-LU] Poetry Begging bollocks

2015-06-25 Thread Chris Briggs

Fellow listers,

A couple of weeks ago I posted a link to a video on YouTube of me 'performing' 
a poem about Greggs outside outside Greggs.

Well, today is the closing date for voting and I've slipped down the rankings 
to number 5 from 1.

I would really appreciate if you could take a minute of your time to give the 
video the 'thumbs-up' on YouTube.

https://youtu.be/T-oZLENsTGA

Cheers

Chris


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[LU] Non-LU tonight

2015-06-16 Thread Chris Nickson

For any in the Leeds area, I'm on Made in Leeds TV tonight reading a short
story from Leeds, The Biography: A History of Leeds in Short Stories. On at
6.30pm

The story, Sale of Effects, is about the sale of players after the
winding-up of Leeds City FC.

Chris
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Re: [LU] [NON-LU] Blatant publicising

2015-06-15 Thread Chris Briggs

Thanks to everyone for all of the 'thumbs up', I still have 10 days to collect 
them before the closing date, so if you haven't liked it there is still time :oD

I suspect that the 'thumbs down' have come from Greggs IT manager, an IT 
support worker and Tyrone Cockwomble (the person who put it in the suggestion 
box).

Thanks again to all those that have supported what is actually a daft cause.
Sent from my iPhone

On 15 Jun 2015, at 10:02 am, David Brennan d.r.bren...@leeds.ac.uk wrote:

 Message: 1
 Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2015 13:11:44 +0100
 From: Chris Briggs c_bri...@hotmail.co.uk
 To: Leeds United E-Mail List leedslist@gn.apc.org
 Subject: [LU] [NON-LU] Blatant publicising
 If you're interested the subject matter is 'free wifi at Greggs'.
 
 https://youtu.be/T-oZLENsTGA
 
 I've liked it too now. And who are the three grumpy bastards who've thumbs 
 downed it?  Greggs senior management perhaps?
 
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Re: [LU] [NON-LU] Blatant publicising

2015-06-15 Thread Chris Briggs

Oi, I said daft not lost


On 15 Jun 2015, at 10:32 am, Richard Naef rich...@triumph-computers.co.uk 
wrote:

 Thanks again to all those that have supported what is actually a daft
 cause.
 
 Well we've all got form in this respect haven't we! 
 
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[LU] [NON-LU] Blatant publicising

2015-06-12 Thread Chris Briggs

Fellow listers,

I know it's a pain when people do this and so I apologise in advance.

In my spare time (when I'm not being an idiot or annoying my kids) I write a 
bit of poetry type stuff.
Anyway I've entered this competition to perform at Nozstock festival (smallish 
music one in Herefordshire).
So f**king what I hear you say.
Well, I had to produce a video to accompany my work and it's posted (along with 
29 others) onto YouTube. I have 9 days to get as many 'thumbs up' as possible 
in order to progress to the final 10. 

I would really appreciate if you could take 1 1/2 minutes of your time to view 
and like the video.
If you're interested the subject matter is 'free wifi at Greggs'.

https://youtu.be/T-oZLENsTGA

Cheers

Chris


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Re: [LU] [NON-LU] Blatant publicising

2015-06-12 Thread Chris Briggs

Thanks. I also have some other stuff on that Facebook thingy -  
https://www.facebook.com/chrisbriggspoet

This one was one I didn't swear in, then again I couldn't given that I filmed 
it in a hurry on Worcester High St in between people walking past.

I wrote one about Sepp Blatter 3 days before he resigned, I like to take credit 
for his resignation. 

Sent from my iPhone

 On 12 Jun 2015, at 1:33 pm, Richard Naef rich...@triumph-computers.co.uk 
 wrote:
 
 Done,
 
 
 
 Delectation - Mastication-  excellent!
 
 
 
 good luck!  
 
 
 
 ttfn
 
 
 Richard
 
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Re: [LU] Membership renewal

2015-06-11 Thread Chris Briggs

For 20 quid I will send you a membership card and cause you to be infuriated at 
least twice a week whilst delivering a service well below your expectations.
Net saving to you 20 quid, so we both win ;o)

Sent from my iPhone

 On 11 Jun 2015, at 12:16 pm, David Brennan d.r.bren...@leeds.ac.uk wrote:
 
 I suppose like me you've all received your membership renewal email today.
 
 Anyone excited, or like me trying to decide what else you can spend forty 
 quid on?
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[LU] Rosler

2015-05-20 Thread Chris Wright


As much as I liked Neil Redfearn and the football he got the side playing for a 
while, there were some issues that needed to be addressed if real progress were 
to be made.

1) Conflict with the management team - it takes two to fall out
2) Tactical inflexibility - teams sussed us out - we never seemed to get people 
on the back foot for any period of time
3) Divisions in the dressing room - a lot of rumour around this, but the 
Italian contingent were largely overlooked - Montenegro scored for fun in the 
reserves, others seemed to be worth a shot at least, but it always took 
Redfearn one too many games to rotate tired players
4) Can you honestly see Redfearn thriving against the likes of Chelsea, 
Arsenal, Man City?

The Uwe Rosler signing - I’m happy with this and the Pearson appointment. Happy 
that Pearson took the press conference, happy that he has been given input into 
transfers. A coach who will bring an understanding of the European game and 
experience of the English game in this league looks like a good idea. and he 
was a very successful footballer, known if I recall for his determination.

Cellino - I think he’s a very bright guy who is learning pretty rapidly from a 
series of near catastrophic blunders. He seems to be being attacked by the fans 
on the basis that he must have been making all the decisions all the time he 
was banned. I’m positive that was not the case, both he and Andrew Umbers made 
this explicit, before he went to Miami and much of the chaos that ensued bore 
all the hallmarks of political infighting while the boss was away. He has 
repeatedly stated he wants to build this club on the youngsters and has 
extended several contracts already this summer as well as letting go of the 
dead wood.

I’m looking forward to seeing who we sign…

Chris




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Re: [LU] Box

2015-02-18 Thread Chris Briggs

Is 'dishevelled c*nt's better ? ;o)

Sent from my iPhone

 On 18 Feb 2015, at 17:11, Ben Thorpe bstho...@hotmail.co.uk wrote:
 
 I use that word every now and then, but my lawyers find it offensive so they
 will be in contact shortly.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On
 Behalf Of John Boocock
 Sent: 18 February 2015 14:59
 To: leedslist@gn.apc.org
 Subject: Re: [LU] Box
 
 On 18/02/2015 12:24, Richard Walker wrote:
 when we got there people were wearing all sorts including trainers
 scruffy cunts
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Re: [LU] Transfer Ebargoes

2014-12-15 Thread Chris Briggs

We have signed some shite in previous transfer windows so maybe this is a good 
thing ;o)

Sent from my iPhone

 On 15 Dec 2014, at 14:58, Rick Duniec (@ntl) ri...@ntlworld.com wrote:
 
 Blackburn, Leeds and Nottingham Forest handed transfer embargoes
 Blackburn, Leeds and Nottingham Forest have been given transfer embargoes for 
 the rest of the season for breaching Financial Fair Play rules. 
 
 The Championship trio have been handed the bans for not meeting the Football 
 League's Fair Play Requirement. 
 
 Under existing rules, clubs were permitted to lose no more than £3m a season, 
 with a maximum of £5m of shareholder investment in 2013-14. 
 
 The clubs will have the opportunity to have the embargoes lifted in June. 
 
 To do so, they will need to prove they have stayed within an operating loss 
 of no more than £3m, with a maximum of £3m of shareholder investment for the 
 2014-15 season. 
 
 Blackburn managing director Derek Shaw said: Whilst the ruling will clearly 
 present some difficulties, we will of course respect the rules of the 
 Football League. 
 
  The view from Leeds  
  BBC Radio Leeds sports reporter Adam Pope
 
  Head coach Neil Redfearn said after Saturday's defeat by Fulham that 
 the team needs more players with Championship experience and by my reckoning 
 they should still be able to make four signings. The timing of the embargo 
 coincides with owner Massimo Cellino submitting his appeal against his 
 disqualification but with three big games between now and January and the 
 team just five points above the relegation zone, Redfearn knows he cannot 
 afford to allow this to interfere with the players' concentration.
 
 
 A lot of effort and hard work has been done to reduce player costs over the 
 last two years, but we have wanted to rebuild and challenge in this division 
 at the same time, and we will continue to do that. 
 
 Forest manager Stuart Pearce, speaking prior to confirmation that the club 
 would be placed under an embargo, said: We are acutely aware of what 
 direction we will go if we are under an embargo. If you cannot go out and buy 
 a player in the transfer market that is always a little bit hurtful. 
 
 But the flip side is that if you have to be cute in the transfer market and 
 get Bosmans and free transfers. We feel we have the scouting network that can 
 cope with that. 
 
 As a football supporter I would not want my club to go bust because of 
 financial overspending, so if the League are putting plans in place to 
 safeguard then long-term future of football clubs then fine; I have no 
 problem with that at all. 
 
 The clubs will still be allowed to sign players in January if they have 24 or 
 fewer players over the age of 21 who have made at least five starting 
 appearances for the club in total. 
 
 Any of these signings must not cost the club a transfer fee and must cost 
 less than £600,000 a year. 
 
  Existing Championship FFP rules  
  2014-15: Losses of no more than £3m, up to £6m with owner investment
 
  2015-16: Losses of no more than £2m, up to £13m with owner investment
 
 
 Clubs with 24 or more players fitting the criteria will be allowed to trade 
 players on a 'one out, one in' basis. 
 
 In addition: 
 
  a.. Clubs under an FFP embargo will be permitted to sign a goalkeeper on an 
 emergency basis, in line with existing regulations. 
  a.. Clubs under an FFP embargo will not be permitted to pay transfer fees or 
 compensation fees for professional players. 
  a.. Clubs under an FFP embargo will not be permitted to pay a loan fee to 
 another club, they may only pay the player's wage, or a contribution towards 
 it. 
  a.. For incoming players, clubs can only pay agents' fees as a benefit in 
 kind to the player in question, as long as they do not exceed the £600,000 
 employee costs limit. 
 In November, Championship clubs agreed to a new set of FFP guidelines to come 
 into effect from the start of the 2016-17 campaign which will allow clubs to 
 lose up to £15m across a period of three seasons without having to detail how 
 that loss will be funded. 
 
 
 
 The Guardian
 
 Leeds United, Blackburn Rovers and Nottingham Forest will all have a transfer 
 ban for the January window after breaching the Football League's financial 
 fair play (FFP) rules.
 
 The League announced that the three clubs all incurred financial losses more 
 than the £8m permitted during last season.
 
 Submissions from QPR, Leicester and Burnley - who were all promoted to the 
 Premier League - plus the three clubs relegated last season will now be 
 considered by the Football League.
 
 A statement said: An initial analysis of FFP submissions from the current 24 
 Championship clubs has indicated that three clubs - Blackburn Rovers, Leeds 
 United and Nottingham Forest - have failed to meet the fair play requirement 
 under the division's FFP rules.
 
 Consequently, all three will be subject to an 'FFP embargo' under Football

Re: [LU] Ridsdale!!!!! The Kronsortium, Bates!!$!!, GFH....WTF!

2014-12-01 Thread Chris Briggs

The problem is that this is a pissing contest, it isn't about compromise and 
using common sense to resolve an issue. The FL have painted themselves into a 
corner, the only way they can get out of it is to look like incompetent dicks 
in the short term, they are doing this by following their own rules without 
deviation (even though they would be able to justify it).

As Maslow said if the only tool you have is a hammer, to treat everything as 
if it were a nail

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 On 1 Dec 2014, at 18:13, leedssongs.com p...@leedssongs.com wrote:
 
 Cellino is not fit and proper now. But in march next year he is? 
 
 Makes perfect sense to me! (NOT!)
 
 
 Noggie on the list
 
 
 
 
 
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 Behalf Of Mark Pilling
 Sent: 1. desember 2014 14:07
 To: leedslist@gn.apc.org
 Subject: [LU] Ridsdale! The Kronsortium, Bates!!*$!!*, GFHWTF!
 
 IMO the only football related, football club related , fit and proper to own
 or run a football cub offence/incompetence you could levy against him is his
 knee jerk firing (and hiring) of managers.  In terms of financial support
 and means he clearly shines above those mentioned, in terms of
 honesty..well, I ask you!!
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Re: [LU] Milanic sacked

2014-10-26 Thread Chris Wright


Headlines today are all about Leeds being plunged into further chaos. It makes 
good headlines, but is it really true? Redfearn is familiar to the players, 
popular, knows the club inside out. I don't see chaos.

Ferguson changed his head coach frequently at Manchester and in other clubs 
where the manager is 'the boss' the changing of a mere coach never attracts the 
headlines. The coach is an important cog in the machine - would Revie have been 
as successful wthout Les Cocker, Clough without Taylor? On the flipside, we saw 
what happened to Leeds when O'Leary brought in Brian Kidd - the players loved 
him but the results went out of the window. O'Leary was manager throughout one 
of out best and worst periods, his coaching tenure, first under George Graham 
and during the first half of his managerial stint was very successul, it was 
only when he promoted himself to an executive position that he lost the plot.

Where the owner is The Boss the Head Coach model allows the same flexibility 
for the president that managers usually enjoy. The players and business are 
looked after by Cellino and Salerno and they do this well - I'm seeing an 
improvement in both ability and attitude on the pitch and the business seems to 
be on a sounder footing than it was with Ken Bates.. The players appear to be 
bonding as a unit and certainly play more entertaining football than any of 
Warnock's teams. 

So I'm backing Cellino - I don't expect Redfearn to deliver the same stellar 
results as he did last time, but he will deliver a more positive attitude on 
the pitch - his is not a loser's mentality, I'm afraid Milanovic was too 
conservative and paid the price. I'm sorry for the guy, but he's made a lot of 
money for six week's work. In football as in many businesses, you live or die 
by your decisions and your ability to think on your feet. Let's get Redfearn in 
and stick with him. 


Chris Wright








On 26 Oct 2014, at 05:48, Dr Michael Benjamin m...@myray.com wrote:

 Far too easy Ian.
 He is strange. Certainly has pronounced views. Acts on them. Keeps his own
 council. Has experience. I tend to think that he has the makings of a
 genius. However he may well be a flawed one. In fact hopelessly flawed.
 But...
 He had bought in some good players. He has got rid of some bad ones.
 Believes in youth. Sees the differences between individual, youth and team
 training. Sees the differing roles in professional management. And he
 manages and uses money.
 The bottom line? Well there isn't one. I also think that he was right in
 not giving Redfearn the job. He has a far more important one right now  I
 am no way convinced that he is the man for the 1st team. But we are in the
 position that by either promoting Redfearn or not promoting him we can lose
 him. The Peter principle-- promote a guy till he gets to the point that he
 can't function.
 We may get lucky-- Redfearn fits  we get a good academy boss. Shades of
 Guardiola? Or the famous Liverpool system of the 70's? Who knows.
 When I proposed to my wife I told her 'I don't promise you a happy life---
 but you'll never be bored'. Maybe that's why I like Cellino. He sees things
 differently  sticks to his guns
 
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 On 26 October 2014 07:37, Ian Murray ianjamesmur...@hotmail.com wrote:
 
 The guy's a fruit loop! No way did Darko deserve the boot!
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 26 Oct 2014, at 01:48, Richard Naef rich...@triumph-computers.co.uk
 wrote:
 
 
 Jesus Christ - this is a joke.
 I was thinking about this. Redfearn did a great job in that he brought
 in Cook etc. but the games we played were against shite. We drew at Brum
 (see how 
 they got on today) ? We beat a really poor Huddersfield team who
 actually caused us a load of trouble.
 So I'm a bit disappointed by this decision. I'm not sure about Darko
 but Cellino is becoming a bit of a joke.
 
 agree, I think Redfearn had some easy games and a bit of luck, while
 Darko has the opposite.  How can Cellino decide after such little time
 whether someone is a good long term prospect, which of course that applies
 to Redfearn's 4 games as well.  I would really love Redfearn to be
 successful, but worry he's not got the calibre or won't be given time.  So
 UNLESS someone top notch has become free and is interested OR Milanic has
 done something we don't know about I think this is  bad decision and shows
 that MC is dangerously mad, still no sign of ER buy back either.
 
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[LU] Hockaway

2014-08-29 Thread Chris Wright


So its bye bye Hock. Inevitable I'm afraid, the only mystery being the sudden 
change of mind over the Bank Holiday.

As to why anyone would want to take over, plenty of reasons. Whatever the 
naysayers might think, we have a completely different squad profile to last 
year's ageing collective. Cellino has gone pretty methodically through the 
process of building a squad that should be competitive. It includes the bright 
lights from last year, Dawson, Cook and Mowatt, he's bought in a striker most 
people are happy with in Sharpe and another that had a decent scoring record in 
Italy, he's tried to address the creativity problem by bringing in Sloth and 
hopefully Adryan. I don't see much there to complain about.

Hockaday was a different problem. Obsessed with the diamond, he had no plan B 
and once the pressure was on, did what most people would have done, turned Can 
Win into Must not Lose in his mad mind and reverted to the old guard to 
shore up the defence, leaving most of the newcomers on the bench. Quite rightly 
sacked.

To the future, I hope Cellino invests in a decent coach, because that is what 
is needed. In every respect except for the choice of manager. Cellino has been 
correct in his thinking so far. Turned the ship around financially, invested in 
a decent, young squad, initiated the buyback of the ground. Trimmed the fat 
from the admin staff. We don't need some old school manager to come in and run 
the club. We need, as we have done for years now, a coach with progressive 
ideas who will come in and stamp his authority on the squad and the game plan. 
Whether that coach is Italian or not I don't care, but the only one of the ten 
or so that people keep going on about I'd give a second thought to is Simon 
Grayson and he hasn't exactly set the world on fire since leaving Leeds. 

And lastly, a new set of fans might not go amiss. Positivity, realism and 
pragmatism are in short supply right now. People are hollering for O'Leary to 
return. Or the racist homophobe Mackay. My worst fear is we'll get the manager 
we deserve.







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Re: [LU] Fwd: Last night, thoughts

2014-08-28 Thread Chris Briggs

Ah yes, once again America leads the way in bubble wrapped parenting skills 
rather ironic given that a 9 year old accidentally shot an instructor with an 
Uzi.

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 I have a solution for the US soccer mums and their kids Why don't they 
 fuck off and play tiddlywinks instead. 
 
 FFS. 
 
 Cheers
 Alec
 
 On 28 Aug 2014, at 5:42 pm, Nick n...@6haroldplace.co.uk wrote:
 
 
 
 
 Not really a report because it was on the telly, but a bunch on bullet 
 points from someone sat in the Bradford end…but apparently our first loss 
 at VP in 80 years…those records keep tumbling
 
 
 - they don't like us much, not that we really care, but they were generally 
 quite a good humoured bunch
 
 - £2.20 for ten chips…£3.60 for a can of Tetleys...wtf?
 
 - Luke Murphy = dozy twat
 
 - their number 10 (Billy Knott?) rans rings round our midfield...had all 
 the qualities I'd like to see in our midfield...can't remember the last 
 time we had someone control a game like this lad did last night
 
 - apart from Taylor, no-one in the Leeds XI did much worth reporting
 
 - watching Smith trying to get back upfield to keep up with the play after 
 he has tracked back is a woeful sight
 
 - we might grumble about Millwall fans singing about Istanbul, but is 
 waving the Israeli national flag emblazoned with LUFC, clearly designed to 
 upset any Muslim fans in the Bradford end, any better?
 
 - flares make a come back (not the dreadful trousers), although these 
 flares seem more like someone has let off a sherbet fountain in an enclosed 
 space
 
 - after Bradford's second goal, a handful of Leeds try and get onto the 
 pitch and thereby at the Bradford Kop...also saw a plastic seat back 
 launched out of the Leeds end onto the pitch. Boys you do us proud.
 
 - have some sympathy with the notion, how much of this is Hock's fault, 
 but I fear that this is what we will have to get used to, as long as 
 Cellino calls the shots.
 
 
 - just heard about some US lawsuit (from soccer mums and their kids) trying 
 to limit the number of times any player may head the ball during each game 
 (Ross McC was way ahead of the law on that one)...to limit possible brain 
 damage. This has not done much to lift the mood...
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [LU] Hocks Heroes

2014-08-12 Thread Chris Briggs

I'm in France and just sampled a glass of wine from 14 different bottles and 
couldn't give a fuck. Had a rather pleasant Juliénas that would be nice chilled.

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 I'm naked.
 
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 Sent: ‎12/‎08/‎2014 20:52
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 Subject: Re: [LU] Hocks Heroes
 
 Jesus this list is depressing.
 
 
 
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 To: swinnow swin...@yahoo.co.uk 
 Cc: leedslist@gn.apc.org leedslist@gn.apc.org 
 Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2014 3:43 PM
 Subject: Re: [LU] Hocks Heroes
 
 
 Don't be fooled by the score line - this is bab. 4-3-3 is strange tactics 
 with no width whatsoever. smith has been woeful.
 
 Tonge best player along (says it all) with Young Lewis Cook.
 
 Taylor is shite, Bianchi is a fancy dan who is not that good , the new right 
 back looks like a player but not a right back. Wooton all over the shop. Boro 
 would have had a hatful.
 
 Doukara or whatever his name took his goals well but his general play makes 
 Becchio look good. 
 
 The bloke from Petrrboro reminds me of Juilan Jochim without the pace and 
 skill.
 
 Don't look like a team to me
 
 But in The Hock we trust.
 
 On 12 Aug 2014, at 20:27, swinnow swin...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
 
 Two nil both from Doukara
 
 Sent from swin...@yahoo.co.uk in great haste from a cheap phone.
 
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Re: [LU] Incoming ?

2014-07-28 Thread Chris Nickson

Vivian?

So we are signing Young Ones

Chris


On 28 July 2014 17:15, Andy Clayton andyclayto...@gmail.com wrote:

 Vivian has signed.


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  Full of fantasy Has our new owner gone all Walt Disney on us?
 
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Re: [LU] Non LU: Tour De France

2014-07-06 Thread Chris Nickson

Was wonderful, watched them go past on Scott Hall Rd in Leeds.

Wonderful to watch on telly later, Yorkshire look great in the sun.

Agree with the view on Cameron. I notice he didn't seem to be in Leeds
among real people...


On 6 July 2014 10:46, Nick n...@6haroldplace.co.uk wrote:


 Couldn’t agree more, spent the day over the moor in Ilkley, watched the
 whole shebang…totally fantastic atmosphere, day, experience…the bizarre
 “caravan” that precedes the cyclists, with all the weird promotional cars
 some shaped like their products (?) and then the gendarmerie and the UK
 cops waving at the crowds as they came through…and of course the
 sunshine…and once they’d scooted past we all went round the corner to a
 house BBQ with loads of good food and chilled drinks and watched the rest
 of it with a bunch of Americans, some Welsh, a Dutch guy and various others
 all staggered by the beauty of the countryside we were watching them ride
 through. Wish I could get to either Holme Moss or Sheffield (for the final
 little bugger of a hill), today, but I can’t…

 The only bum notes being the “royal interregnum” at Harewood and Cameron
 having the brass balls to turn up the finish line of something he’d
 actively campaigned against.




 
 
 
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 Addingham so watched it there. Usually a sleepy village, it was transformed
 into a colourful street party who cheered everything that came though.
  I didn't think I'd be to too bothered about it but I was caught up in
 an amazing atmosphere and when the riders came through I was down on the
 road, clenched fist, cheering them on. Watching the pictures of Yorkshire
 later on the big screen in Addingham you had to feel proud of Yorkshire.
 The only place to live, no other county can compare.
 
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Re: [LU] Becchio

2014-07-04 Thread Chris Briggs

I think that for the coming season we need to use the Bristol Stool Chart to 
define the level of shitness of each player. 

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bristol_stool_scale

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   You've changed your tune Rich, last time you mentioned him you said he
   was Fucking Shit now he's only shit...
   Imagine how much shittier than shit he'll be now after a year of not
   doing shit.
   Wayne
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   Subject: Re: [LU] Becchio
   He's shit.
 On 4 Jul 2014, at 16:20, Dr Michael Benjamin wrote:
 
 I quite liked him. He's a grafter. Its different when you see the
   game.
 On 4 Jul 2014 17:26, Jeremy Thorpe wrote:
 
 Ohh No! Not Doncchio
 
 This had better not be true!!!
 
 I can just about cope with Hockawhooodledo, at least he helped coach
 Watford
 back to the Premier League, but this..No...No No! We got rid,
   that was
 a
 good day. This would be depressing.
 
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   [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org]
 On
 Behalf Of Matt Anderson
 Sent: 04 July 2014 14:59
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 Subject: [LU] Becchio
 
 On his way apparently
 
 Looks like rich walker's day is going to be worse than Magaluf
   Girls!
 
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Re: [LU] Do we think this is true?

2014-07-01 Thread Chris Briggs

Not as funny as the first time someone does a white wash and the ubiquitous 
stray red item makes it way in and colours it a very pale pink.

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 http://metro.co.uk/2014/07/01/leeds-players-told-to-take-packed-lunches-to-training-and-wash-their-own-kit-as-club-drastically-cut-costs-4782788?ITO=SendToAFriend
 That'll be fun, when Smith forgets his shirt and has to borrow Aidy White's.
 
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Re: [LU] Non lu

2014-06-26 Thread Chris Briggs

Or perhaps we just couldn't give a shit about the England team.
I don't think there has ever been a time, up to now, where I just can't be 
bothered to watch the World Cup.
I am sure I'm not the only one.

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 On 26 Jun 2014, at 12:36, Nigel Barber ni...@mindbrix.co.uk wrote:
 
 Very well said. Suarez is a convenient scapegoat and a distraction away
 from the real issue: our national team was well and truly found out in
 Brazil. We finished deservedly bottom of a mediocre qualifying group. Why
 are we collectively shrugging our shoulders and saying, Never mind, Roy.
 More of the same, please.?
 
 Like I said, too polite, too content with fucking shite. Losers.
 
 
 Nigel.
 
 
 
 On 26 June 2014 10:53, Brendan McWilliams brendan_mcwilli...@hotmail.com
 wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 
 
 hmmm, there really is quite an extraordinary amount of hysteria about this
 latest episode from the new favourite pantomine villain that is Luis Suarez.
 
 
 
 What he has now done at least twice and looking like a third is something
 my 2 year old is now growing out of in the nursery.  All this he's not
 right is he, for goodness sake...  Clearly it's a reflex that gets the
 better of him when the red mist comes swirling down but why is it worse
 than some legendary assaults from e.g. Scholes, Shearer or Keane where the
 recipients have been booted in the face or had a career ending broken leg?
 It's hardly cause for lining up ten clinical psychologists from Harley
 Street to give an opinion is it? Is it worse than gouging someone's EYE in
 rugby?
 
 
 
 As to his diving - alas rampant in the game - they're just as bad as any
 of the laughable falls of Ashley Young - if only he got taken to task for
 his.
 
 
 
 Quite why this is THE headline news, and why the english media needs a
 baddie every tournament is on the whole a bit sad to say the least. This is
 the same media who will have his face all over the place for the next SUPER
 DUPER S*Y SUNDAY BETTER THAN THE LAST ONE etc etc. Then the muppet
 journalists hoping for his execution now like he ate live new born babies
 will wait a month or two then trot out the usual redemption articles.
 
 
 
 There are two outcomes: he'll get suspended for 1 match for the unseen
 mild head butt, or they'll grow a pair and ban him for a significant number
 of games for the bite. End of etc, can we please stop with the witch hunt.
 How about a witchhunt on something significant like why Cameron managed to
 create a scenario whereby the Hacking trial could be declared null and void
 without a re-trial.
 
 
 
 Anyhow, rant over, it was more about the media than Suarez behaving worse
 than my 2 year old i really have become my Dad, shouting at the TV and
 everything. :-
 
 
 
 BMW
 
 
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 On 25 Jun 2014, at 09:59, Nigel Barber ni...@mindbrix.co.uk wrote:
 
 Polite players win nothing.
 
 As opposed to biting, diving racially abusive players, who win so much.
 Like the Dutch Cup, the English League Cup, and... Er...
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[LU] Re New head Coach Interview

2014-06-20 Thread Chris Wright

I think Cellino has said on many occasions that he is employing a coach not a 
manager. Yesterday the press bandied the term 'manager' about until an 
exasperated Massimo said Coach, Manager, Super Manager...what's the 
difference... thus delivering a headline on a plate.

Rationally, I've had more than enough of the McDermotts and Warnocks of this 
world. I'm absolutely with Cellino when he referred scathingly to modern 
managers as PR men, bullshitters we've had enough of these tossers surely? 
Both McDermott and Warnock were absolutely clueless, Warnock was past his sell 
by date and McDermott was just a PR man. He told us what we wanted to hear, no 
more, no less.

Its going to be a bumpy ride I'm sure, but Massimo has provided hours of 
entertainment so far, most notably at the expense of alleged fraudster David 
Haigh. Frankly, even ignoring the allegations of theft surrounding that 
resident of a Dubai jail, did anyone seriously think GFK or whatever they 
called themselves were doing a good job? Proper Millionaires tend to have 
ideas. Ours obviously knows something about football, he kept Cagliari in the 
top division in Italy for years, right now I'd happily take that.

If Wackaday doesn't work out, he'll be history before he can blink. That much 
about Cellino we know.

Chris.

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Re: [LU] Re New head Coach Interview

2014-06-20 Thread Chris Wright

Do we? I think its true to say that the most successful manager in history - 
Alex Ferguson, was in position for the longest time, but Chelsea? Manchester 
City? Tottenham Hotspur, Glasgow Celtic, Liverpool. all successful clubs, all 
change managers at the drop of a hat. The only reason we think the recipe for 
success is longevity is Alec Ferguson and Arsene Wenger, two remarkable 
coaches. To say that is the only way to success is like saying the winner of 
the lottery is very rich therefore I'll play the lottery every week until I win 
it.

The fact is we don't really know what we're in for - we all agree that our 
history of owners has been a slow descent into purgatory, starting with the 
idiot that bought Thomas Brolin, Bill Fotherby. Since then its been downhill 
all the way. Fact is today we're a mid table second division club with no 
stadium and massive debts. Cellino has paid off many of those debts, kept us 
alive in fact yet the dissenters still moan because he hasn't bought back the 
stadium and Thorp Arch. Would you? Seriously? We are losing money at a 
frightening rate. The owner has plugged the gaps, steadied the ship and done it 
with speed. So far, so good. 

I don't know where this will end, but we have a wealthy owner with a successful 
record in Italy, one of the leading football countries in the world. It cannot 
possibly be worse than the nightmare pairing of Brian McDermott and David 
Haigh. If those two had stayed at the helm, relegation would be the least of 
our worries. And so many people wanting Gary McAllister back - what exactly is 
it about his record as a coach that makes anyone think he'd do a job for us? 
Legendary player yes. Manager? Bloody useless.

Chris

Chris Wright







On 20 Jun 2014, at 19:51, Jim Moran j...@jimmoran.co.uk wrote:

 We also know that unless you're able to buy the best players in the world, 
 that sacking managers and coaches regularly never, ever, leads to success. 
 
 --
 
 On 20 Jun 2014, at 19:30, Chris Wright ch...@chrisgwright.org wrote:
 
 I think Cellino has said on many occasions that he is employing a coach not 
 a manager. Yesterday the press bandied the term 'manager' about until an 
 exasperated Massimo said Coach, Manager, Super Manager...what's the 
 difference... thus delivering a headline on a plate.
 
 Rationally, I've had more than enough of the McDermotts and Warnocks of this 
 world. I'm absolutely with Cellino when he referred scathingly to modern 
 managers as PR men, bullshitters we've had enough of these tossers surely? 
 Both McDermott and Warnock were absolutely clueless, Warnock was past his 
 sell by date and McDermott was just a PR man. He told us what we wanted to 
 hear, no more, no less.
 
 Its going to be a bumpy ride I'm sure, but Massimo has provided hours of 
 entertainment so far, most notably at the expense of alleged fraudster David 
 Haigh. Frankly, even ignoring the allegations of theft surrounding that 
 resident of a Dubai jail, did anyone seriously think GFK or whatever they 
 called themselves were doing a good job? Proper Millionaires tend to have 
 ideas. Ours obviously knows something about football, he kept Cagliari in 
 the top division in Italy for years, right now I'd happily take that.
 
 If Wackaday doesn't work out, he'll be history before he can blink. That 
 much about Cellino we know.
 
 Chris.
 
 Chris Wright
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [LU] Re New head Coach Interview

2014-06-20 Thread Chris Wright

Manchester United, Liverpool, both in serious debt. You wouldn't call top 6 
premier league status successful? And if a club is bankrolled (name me one club 
that isn't) then that doesn't count? It's all or nothing then - premier league 
champions within two years or you'll view Cellino as a failure? You must have 
become accustomed to disappointment!


On 20 Jun 2014, at 21:53, Jim Moran j...@jimmoran.co.uk wrote:

 All rich clubs. Liverpool's successful period was a series of boot room boys 
 and they all lasted years. Don't forget they've not won a league title for 24 
 years. Chelsea bankrolled. Man city bankrolled. Spurs? Fuck me. They've won 
 fuck all in the modern era but the FA cup every 10-20 years. Celtic play in a 
 2 horse race league. Don't get any of your argument, sorry. 
 
 --
 
 On 20 Jun 2014, at 21:36, Chris Wright ch...@chrisgwright.org wrote:
 
 Do we? I think its true to say that the most successful manager in history - 
 Alex Ferguson, was in position for the longest time, but Chelsea? Manchester 
 City? Tottenham Hotspur, Glasgow Celtic, Liverpool. all successful clubs, 
 all change managers at the drop of a hat. The only reason we think the 
 recipe for success is longevity is Alec Ferguson and Arsene Wenger, two 
 remarkable coaches. To say that is the only way to success is like saying 
 the winner of the lottery is very rich therefore I'll play the lottery every 
 week until I win it.
 
 The fact is we don't really know what we're in for - we all agree that our 
 history of owners has been a slow descent into purgatory, starting with the 
 idiot that bought Thomas Brolin, Bill Fotherby. Since then its been downhill 
 all the way. Fact is today we're a mid table second division club with no 
 stadium and massive debts. Cellino has paid off many of those debts, kept us 
 alive in fact yet the dissenters still moan because he hasn't bought back 
 the stadium and Thorp Arch. Would you? Seriously? We are losing money at a 
 frightening rate. The owner has plugged the gaps, steadied the ship and done 
 it with speed. So far, so good. 
 
 I don't know where this will end, but we have a wealthy owner with a 
 successful record in Italy, one of the leading football countries in the 
 world. It cannot possibly be worse than the nightmare pairing of Brian 
 McDermott and David Haigh. If those two had stayed at the helm, relegation 
 would be the least of our worries. And so many people wanting Gary 
 McAllister back - what exactly is it about his record as a coach that makes 
 anyone think he'd do a job for us? Legendary player yes. Manager? Bloody 
 useless.
 
 Chris
 
 Chris Wright
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 On 20 Jun 2014, at 19:51, Jim Moran j...@jimmoran.co.uk wrote:
 
 We also know that unless you're able to buy the best players in the world, 
 that sacking managers and coaches regularly never, ever, leads to success. 
 
 --
 
 On 20 Jun 2014, at 19:30, Chris Wright ch...@chrisgwright.org wrote:
 
 I think Cellino has said on many occasions that he is employing a coach 
 not a manager. Yesterday the press bandied the term 'manager' about until 
 an exasperated Massimo said Coach, Manager, Super Manager...what's the 
 difference... thus delivering a headline on a plate.
 
 Rationally, I've had more than enough of the McDermotts and Warnocks of 
 this world. I'm absolutely with Cellino when he referred scathingly to 
 modern managers as PR men, bullshitters we've had enough of these 
 tossers surely? Both McDermott and Warnock were absolutely clueless, 
 Warnock was past his sell by date and McDermott was just a PR man. He told 
 us what we wanted to hear, no more, no less.
 
 Its going to be a bumpy ride I'm sure, but Massimo has provided hours of 
 entertainment so far, most notably at the expense of alleged fraudster 
 David Haigh. Frankly, even ignoring the allegations of theft surrounding 
 that resident of a Dubai jail, did anyone seriously think GFK or whatever 
 they called themselves were doing a good job? Proper Millionaires tend to 
 have ideas. Ours obviously knows something about football, he kept 
 Cagliari in the top division in Italy for years, right now I'd happily 
 take that.
 
 If Wackaday doesn't work out, he'll be history before he can blink. That 
 much about Cellino we know.
 
 Chris.
 
 Chris Wright
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [LU] Leeds pub in London

2014-05-13 Thread Chris Nickson

Isn't that where Chaucer's pilgrims started for Canterbury?


On 13 May 2014 17:53, Matt Anderson m...@leeds-united.net wrote:

 For next season

 Am in the Southwark tavern near London bridge and there is a pic of Brian
 Mcdermott above the bar.

 The landlord is a massive Leeds fan apparently and he encourages Leeds
 fans into pub on London match days!





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Re: [LU] GFH post a profit on Leeds

2014-05-01 Thread Chris Briggs

Neither can I, perhaps that explains why neither of us are billionaires with a 
multitude of offshore interests :o)

Sent from my iPhone

 On 1 May 2014, at 16:13, Richard Naef rich...@triumph-computers.co.uk 
 wrote:
 
 I can't understand how they can value it at £52m, allegedly sell 75% for
 £25m and say they made £3.8m.  
 
 Surprised no one else is commenting on this, especially the bit about
 frozen
 season ticket prices?
 
 Pete C
 
 -Original Message-
 From: leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org]
 On
 Behalf Of Rick Duniec
 Sent: Thursday, 1 May 2014 8:35 PM
 To: Leedslist@gn.apc.org
 Subject: [LU] GFH post a profit on Leeds
 
 The former majority owner of Leeds United has revealed the net gain it
 made
 through the purchase of the Championship club and its subsequent sale of a
 75 per cent shareholding to new owner Massimo Cellino.
 
 The annual report for Gulf Finance House reports a net gain of $6.46m
 (£3.8m) from the investment bank's time as majority owner.
 
 Gulf Finance House, the parent company of GFH Capital, retains a 10 per
 cent
 stake in Leeds United and said the deal to sell a 75 per cent shareholding
 was at a price closer to its book value.
 
 In accounts for the 2012 financial year, Gulf Finance House listed Leeds
 United's book value at $88.1m (£52m). Since then, GFH placed a majority
 stake in the hands of strategic investors and de-consolidated LUFC
 Holdings
 from its accounts so no longer included a value for the total asset.
 
 Last month, GFH confirmed the sale of a 75 per cent stake in Leeds United
 had gone through and said the deal would have a positive impact on its
 financial position.
 
 The transaction with Massimo Cellino's Eleonara Sport had completed after
 the Italian entrepreneur secured approval from the Football League.
 
 In one of the first business moves since Cellino's takeover, it was
 announced yesterday (30 April) that season ticket prices are to be frozen
 for the 2014/15 campaign at Elland Road.
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Re: [LU] Scousers and RE: Yes!

2014-04-29 Thread Chris Briggs

How about we do shit curry houses so that we also know where to avoid, or we 
could rate curries based on the 'arse wasp index' from the 'mildly warming (0)' 
to the full on 'bog roll on ice call the fire brigade I've just had hot lava 
colonic irrigation (11)'


 On 29 Apr 2014, at 14:13, Peter Castlehouse dubca...@iinet.net.au wrote:
 
 Mr Murray,
 
 Your shortfall is noted, and will be appended to your [LeedsList] work
 record
 Please try to lift your game - and do not use the current squad or results
 as a benchmark for lifting games eh?
 
 Sent from my iOS, or Google app, or some fancy Penguin shit software and
 everything else (there's the IT bit mate)
 New Curry houses anyone?
 
 Pete :)
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Ian Murray [mailto:ianjamesmur...@hotmail.com] 
 Sent: Tuesday, 29 April 2014 9:50 PM
 To: Peter Castlehouse
 Cc: Richard Naef; leedslist@gn.apc.org
 Subject: Re: [LU] Scousers and RE: Yes!
 
 I know we can't all hit your dizzy heights of insight mate, I apologise for
 falling short of the mark.
 
 Let's stop talking football and return to curry houses and random IT
 questions eh?!
 
 :-)
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 29 Apr 2014, at 18:49, Peter Castlehouse dubca...@iinet.net.au
 wrote:
 
 isn't it a bit early in the (yet to arrive) pre-season for flame wars?
 
 FFS you lot, do you really have to clutter up our mailboxes and digest 
 with this drivel?
 
 Pete C
 
 -Original Message-
 From: leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org 
 [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of Richard Naef
 Sent: Tuesday, 29 April 2014 6:24 PM
 To: leedslist@gn.apc.org
 Subject: Re: [LU] Scousers
 
 where did I apologise for the actions of any numpties? In fact it's 
 you I recall who used to suggest you missed the good old days of 
 casuals getting it on, in my opinion the 80's was a horrible time for
 Football,
 substantially caused by a minority of people who went.   I was just
 pointing
 out again your myopia on all subjects.
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Richard Walker [mailto:richleed...@yahoo.co.uk]
 Sent: 28 April 2014 21:09
 To: Richard Naef
 Cc: leedslist@gn.apc.org
 Subject: Re: [LU] Scousers
 
 and the mini bus attack ? And the Istanbul chants and fan attacks at 
 ER
 and
 the storming of the ticket barriers at Chelsea and countless other
 grounds,
 and the affects of their actions at Heysel, and the knifings and 
 slashings throughout the years.
 
 Are you going to apologise for all those as well ? Is that typical
 sensationalism
 Richard?
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
 On 28 Apr 2014, at 21:01, Richard Naef richard@triumph-
 computers.co.uk wrote:
 
 Feck sake Richard, you don't like Liverpool, we get it, but really 
 did you read the piece?
 
 Pictures have emerged of a scuffle outside the Anfield Road end of 
 the stadium after Liverpool fans took exception to Chelsea 
 supporters singing about Reds captain Steven Gerrard after the match.
 One fan appeared to throw a punch while others had to be restrained 
 by police.
 
 One fan appeared to throw a punch  and a couple of pictures of 16 
 year old numpties none without colours, pratting about and that's 
 it, pretty obvious no Chelsea involved as it's in the Home end.
 Typical red top sensationalism, what would think if they did the 
 same of half a dozen wannabee's when Leeds are away.
 
 I've seen worse in the queues for pies at most Leeds matches I've 
 been
 to.
 Every team in league and beyond have scum including us.
 
 Richard!  Calm Down! Calm Down!  ;)
 
 
 
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[LU] LU: It could be worse, we could be Rochdale

2014-04-14 Thread Chris Nickson

http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/the-northerner/2014/apr/14/rochdale-top-of-the-league-of-longest-suffering-fans
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Re: [LU] Watford

2014-04-09 Thread Chris Briggs

As you say getting rid now is the only option, there is no point in letting a 
new manager/coach start cold in the close season and potentially miss out on 
prospective transfers, etc.
If they are going to have to pay BMD off they might as well do it sooner and 
write the costs down to this years balance sheet.

Sent from my iPhone

 On 9 Apr 2014, at 08:47, Ian Murray ianjamesmur...@hotmail.com wrote:
 
 Whoever we get must be better than this. Even allowing for the disruption 
 behind the scenes, the run of results from Rochdale onwards has been 
 unacceptable.
 
 Get rid of McD now, a fresh approach will see us safe and give the inevitable 
 new guy a feel for the scale of the task in hand.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 9 Apr 2014, at 15:13, Damian Walsh pussaydam...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Nice idea, but from the Cagliari evidence I don't think that MC would have
 the patience.
 
 I really can't imagine who could (meaningfully - if you know what I mean)
 take over from BMD.
 
 Damian
 
 
 On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 3:57 AM, Ian Murray ianjamesmur...@hotmail.comwrote:
 
 
 
 Bring back Grayson.
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Re: [LU] Accounts 2!!

2014-04-08 Thread Chris Briggs

You'll need your coat on as they are likely to take the shirt from your back.

Sent from my iPhone

 On 8 Apr 2014, at 11:18, Peter Castlehouse dubca...@iinet.net.au wrote:
 
 can't wait for the third instalment Ted - Accounts 3
 
 coat on
 
 Pete C
 t'original one
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On
 Behalf Of Ted
 Sent: Tuesday, 8 April 2014 8:11 PM
 To: leedslist
 Subject: [LU] Accounts 2!!
 
 See the accounts  are out - not good reading!!!
 
 http://www.scribd.com/doc/216979836/Leeds-City-Holdings-Ltd-Accounts-FY2013
 
 A loss of about £9m!
 
 Ted H
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Re: [LU] 0-1

2014-04-05 Thread Chris Briggs

Sounds like a great match, I'm really glad I chose to spend time watching my 
daughter in a her swimming lesson instead.

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Re: [LU] Cellino IN!

2014-04-05 Thread Chris Briggs

Given the news a Barolo or Brunello di Montalcino might go down nicely.

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 Disagree mate. I thought we were poor today and having a lot of possession 
 across the back and passing it square and backwards can make it deceiving. We 
 didn't have a decent chance in the whole game and Tonge's deflected shot 
 which was going wide was our only shot on target. 
 
 it was a toothless performance, ok loads of possession and yes, we showed at 
 times we can control a ball and pass it square but f*ck me that is the very 
 basic skills we require. 
 
 I thought Macca was our worse player today. Unless he's playing up front he's 
 useless.
 
 I thought Brown and Tonge battled hard and were probably more effective than 
 Murphy and Austin but they're not gonna win you games. 
 
 So bring on the crook. 
 
 Has BMD being sacked or what ? 
 
 i hope so, nice man, shite manager. 
 
 time to hit the wine. 
 
 On Saturday, 5 April 2014, 15:49, Ted tedhea...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Well I for one, am happpy. Sure, we don't know what the future will bring
 but after 10 years of shite its got to be better?!
 
 He seems a passionate guy and speaks from the heart unlike the snake in the
 grass Bates. Might be a bumpy ride but I think he's got Leeds' interest at
 heart.
 
 A decent performance today (over the last few), even tho no points again,
 but they showed effort.
 
 Am I being prremature in thinking the future might be bright?
 
 Come on, WE ARE LEEDS!
 
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Re: [LU] Brian and Admin

2014-04-01 Thread Chris Briggs

3rd division, no GFH, Haigh or McDermott, cup final atmosphere at every away 
game, no expectations about the standard of football.

Sounds great, I'm in :o))

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 I'd have no problem with going down to the 3rd div,  let's face it the best
 days of the last 10 years were In that division and maybe we've found our
 natural level?
 
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 On Behalf Of nat...@sky.com
 Sent: 01 April 2014 12:53
 To: leeds list
 Subject: [LU] Brian and Admin
 
 Just seen Brian on SSN telling us how we are going to keep it tight and
 give
 nothing away at the start but also start with commitment and belief and
 then
 hopefully go a goal up and go on and win.
 So that is all right then.
 
 He was asked about a 10point deduction and he said that nothing he has
 heard indicates that that will happen So that is all right then
 
 Having said that, just in case Brian is wrong - me and my mates were
 discussing which scenario is best for us if admin does happen - relegation
 and
 start next season on no points in 3rd division or stay up and start next
 season
 with minus 10 (or more)
 
 Of course on the face of it staying up is best but it does increase the
 chances
 of relegation next season and at the very least is likely to make it (yet
 another) wasted season as any chance of promotion, even through the play
 offs is unlikely
 
 Relegation this season would mean being in the 3rd Division (again) next
 year
 but with a clean slate on and off the pitch. We would be odds on
 favourites
 for promotion and could even do a Wolves. This would lead to much better
 morale on the terraces and the possibility of us really getting on a roll
 and
 storming up the Divisions (or mean another 3 years in the 3rd)
 
 
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Re: [LU] Cellino is Appealing.

2014-03-28 Thread Chris Briggs

If only you had come back with the line whatever floats your boat you would 
have moved up the list pecking order from 'ordinary bloke' to 'sublime comedy 
genius' ;o)

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 I don't find him the least bit appealing but then it's a free country Chris.
 
 Coat on
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[LU] Here we go........

2014-03-28 Thread Chris Briggs

It looks like the tits are being rounded up ready to be pointed skywards.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/26784548

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[LU] is the list down?

2014-03-28 Thread Chris Briggs

Or have I been kicked off ;o)

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[LU] Cellino is Appealing.

2014-03-27 Thread Chris Briggs



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Re: [LU] cellino barred!

2014-03-24 Thread Chris Briggs

Well, that's a bit of a bugger.

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Re: [LU] cellino barred!

2014-03-24 Thread Chris Briggs

He's got two weeks to appeal, can't see the point in him doing that though as 
the FL are hardly likely to change their minds.
I guess he'll want his money back now (which is fair enough).

Not sure who GFH will turn to now, I wouldn't trust them to sit the right way 
round on the toilet never mind getting a satisfactory outcome from this.

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 And Wickham recalled I wonder if that's convenient by Sunderland as we
 cant afford the loan
 
 Phil Hay in YEP says expect movement from the other consortium now
 
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 Cc: Leeds List
 Subject: Re: [LU] cellino barred!
 
 Well, that's a bit of a bugger.
 
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Re: [LU] tomorrow

2014-03-21 Thread Chris Briggs

Are you knitting a straitjacket?

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 I've got a ticket but will I turn up :) depends whether I finish my knitting.
 
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[LU] Joke du Jour

2014-03-20 Thread Chris Briggs

This mornings cause of rice crispie spitting was Phil Hay

Apparently Leeds have written to the FL telling them to make a decision by the 
end of today.


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Re: [LU] Joke du Jour

2014-03-20 Thread Chris Briggs

Unless someone has some compromising photos of Shaun Harvey from an office 
chrimbo party.

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 I understand maybe why Leeds want an answer now, but what leverage do they 
 have over the football league to demand an answer? None. 
 
 Cheers
 Alec
 
 On 21/03/2014, at 12:32 AM, Guy Bonello bone...@maltanet.mt wrote:
 
 GFH need a speedy reply in order to get the admin paperwork in order.
 
 Admin deadline for points deduction this season is 27 march (today week).
 
 Admin after this deadline and points penalty kicks in this or next season,
 whichever is more detrimental.
 
 
 Or else what exactly??
 
 Cheers
 Alec
 
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 This mornings cause of rice crispie spitting was Phil Hay
 
 Apparently Leeds have written to the FL telling them to make a decision
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Re: [LU] Extra maths lessons at Elland Road

2014-03-19 Thread Chris Briggs

Never kind Johnny Ball, given the muppets we currently have I would settle for 
Zoe Ball or even Cannon and Ball.

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 http://www.leedsunited.com/news/article/rmge53b7ogtrz7u12j6ozzqu
 
 Lets hope Saleem, Salah and David are concentrating on their sums on the
 front row and not pissing about on the back row.
 
 Now everybody, if a football club costs 10M to buy and 2M a month to run,
 how much will you need over the next two years? Saleem?...
 Salah?... David?...
 
 Oh FFS! wouldn't it be easier to just put Johnny Ball in charge?
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[LU] Cellino Found Guilty

Nowt else.

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Re: [LU] Cellino Found Guilty

It's all over T'witter, sources include Guardian Sport, Andrew Haigh, etc.

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 Your source please?   Or is this just your opinion?
 
 Pete C
 
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Re: [LU] Cellino Found Guilty

It's all over T'witter, sources include Guardian Sport, Andrew Haigh, etc.

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 Your source please?   Or is this just your opinion?
 
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Re: [LU] Cellino Found Guilty

I'm guessing that Plan B contains the word 'fuckfuckbuggershitcock'


 On 18 Mar 2014, at 09:10, Alec McQueen alec...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Why does it always happen to us? 
 
 
 On 18 March 2014 19:53, Chris Briggs c_bri...@hotmail.co.uk wrote:
 It's all over T'witter, sources include Guardian Sport, Andrew Haigh, etc.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
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  wrote:
 
  Your source please?   Or is this just your opinion?
 
  Pete C
 
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  Nowt else.
 
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Re: [LU] Cellino Found Guilty

Is it a civil matter in Italy though, here in the UK it can be both. Generally 
if you agree that there are 'irregularities' with your return then HMRC are 
more likely to consider Civil proceedings (but could make it criminal if they 
wanted) but if you deny any irregularities then they will go straight to 
seeking criminal prosecutions.

I suppose that the issue for the FL is that if they allow someone with an 
unspent criminal conviction to run a club then it sets a precedent, also if 
Cellino were to come in with a conviction and things went tits up with debts to 
HMRC (for example) would that make the FL complicit as they knew he had form?


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 Thanks Alec, I stand corrected J - BUT
 
 Is failing to pay import duty really a ‘crime’ that would make him
 ineligible of meeting the rules?   It’s a bloody civil conviction after all,
 not a criminal conviction.   A civil conviction didn’t stop my emigration
 process back in ’89, whereas a criminal conviction most certainly would have
 put dampers on it.
 
 
 
 Should the FL rule against him then we’re doomed to anonymity till eternity.
 I don’t think this will happen
 
 
 
 Pete
 
 
 
 From: Alec McQueen [mailto:alec...@gmail.com] 
 Sent: Tuesday, 18 March 2014 9:48 PM
 To: Peter Castlehouse
 Cc: Chris Briggs; Leeds United E-Mail List
 Subject: Re: [LU] Cellino Found Guilty
 
 
 
 eh? Isn't it all done and duisted?  From BBC:
 
 
 
 09:29
 
 Massimo Cellino's takeover of
 http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/26627183 Leeds United may be in
 doubt after an Italian court found him guilty of failing to
 http://www.bbc.com/sport/live/26353529 pay import duty on his yacht.
 
 The 57-year-old, who heads Eleonora Sports, was fined 600,000 euros
 (£502,000) and the court ordered the boat to be confiscated.
 
 His proposed takeover is still under consideration by the Football League.
 
 
 
 On 18 March 2014 21:27, Peter Castlehouse dubca...@iinet.net.au wrote:
 
 I think we are all having kittens prematurely.  The Cellino trial process
 starts today, it's by far not the 'black-cap, hanging judge' sentencing
 day...
 
 And, if it's destined to go longer than ten days, then the FL should have
 announced their decision by then
 
 
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Re: [LU] Cellino Found Guilty (Alec McQueen)

Knowing our luck the old bugger would buy us back after admin.

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 On 18 Mar 2014, at 11:58, Rick Duniec ri...@ntlworld.com wrote:
 
 - Original Message - 
 
 We'll be alright - someone will buy us out of admin and it'll be fine.
 
  yea cos that worked out really well last time ;)
 
  Yes, but as we all know, what happened last time was that Bates PREVENTED 
 anyone else buying us out of administration.
  If only, Eh ?
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Re: [LU] David Cohn in Grauniad

I presume that GFH would given that they are the owners.

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 Doesn't bode well David Conn knows his stuff. So now who funds the 1 million 
 a month deficit?
 Jeremy
 
 
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Re: [LU] YEP LATEST

It used to be 5 years for a fine under Rehab. Of Offenders Act but the LASPO
Act in 2012 revised it down to 1 year from the date of conviction.

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On 18 Mar 2014, at 17:45, Rick Duniec ri...@ntlworld.com wrote:

No
It's a fine paid.
I think it's 5 years for fines.
- Original Message -
From: Matt Anderson
To: John Boocock
Cc: leedslist@gn.apc.org
Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2014 5:39 PM
Subject: Re: [LU] YEP LATEST

I'm not a legal person but if he has been fined and pays isn't it a spent
conviction?

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On 18 Mar 2014, at 18:32, John Boocock j...@boocock.net wrote:

NB Cellino's brief is called Professor Cocco. Enough I say!

Leeds United: Confusion continues after Cellino found guilty of tax evasion

http://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/sport/leeds-united/latest-whites-news/leeds-united-confusion-continues-after-cellino-found-guilty-of-tax-evasion-1-6504825

Leeds United fans are braced for a prolonged period of uncertainty over the
club’s future after an Italian court found prospective owner Massimo Cellino
guilty of tax evasion.

The 57-year-old has been waiting for the Football League to approve his
takeover of the Whites since his company Eleonora Sports agreed a £25million
deal to buy 75 per cent of the club’s shares at the beginning of February.

But the Italian’s bid to take control at Elland Road appears to have been
scuppered after he was fined 600,000 euros by Judge Sandra Lepore in a
Cagliari court for failing to pay more than 400,000 euros in import tax on
his luxury yacht, Nelie, which he bought in 2010 and has now been
confiscated.

Cellino’s lawyer Giovanni Cocco immediately announced the Miami-based
businessman planned to appeal against the court’s ruling.

The Football League has been in protracted negotiations with Cellino’s legal
representatives in England and was understood to be waiting for the outcome
of the court hearing before making a decision on the ownership of Leeds.

A Football League statement read: “The Football League has noted the outcome
of the court hearing earlier (on Tuesday) regarding Massimo Cellino.

“We are engaged in an ongoing dialogue with his legal representatives in
this country and cannot comment further at this time.”

The governing body’s ‘owners and directors’ test, prevents anyone with an
unspent conviction for dishonesty offences from being a director, a 30 per
cent owner, or from exercising control over one of its clubs.

Leeds supporters can now expect further delays and more legal wrangling
between Cellino and the League as the uncertainty over their club continues.

Leeds managing director David Haigh insisted last week that there is “no
chance” of the club going into administration, as it is Cellino’s money
which has been keeping the club going.

“This verdict is absolutely unjust and we will appeal,” Cocco told the
Guardian after the brief court session.

Cellino, currently the owner of Cagliari, denies that he was seeking to
evade import duty on the yacht.

He told the court in December that he had planned to have it sailed to the
United States, where he had bought it, but was unable to due to damage to
the vessel.

Cellino, who exchanged contracts with Leeds’ current owners Gulf finance
House Capital to buy 75 per cent of the club’s shares on February 1, has
already provided considerable funds to cover running costs at Elland Road.

He has covered the club’s staff wage bill for the last two months and has
paid off a loan from shirt sponsors Enterprise Insurance to stave off a
winding-up order.

Since the takeover deal with GFH Capital was agreed, Leeds have also signed
Stoke goalkeeper Jack Butland and Sunderland striker Connor Wickham on loan
until the end of the season.

Cellino’s lawyers started talks with the Football League at the end of
January and the Cagliari owner met with the governing body on February 12.

Bahrain-based investment firm GFH Capital has been searching for major
investment since buying the club from Ken Bates in December 2012.

A rival consortium to Cellino, headed by Andrew Flowers, chief executive of
club sponsor Enterprise Insurance, withdrew from the race to take control at
Elland Road at the end of January, but a third group, Together Leeds,
fronted by former Manchester United international managing director Mike
Farnan, has been waiting in the background.

GFH Capital has so far refused to enter into serious talks with Together
Leeds after rejecting a “derisory” offer from them in November.

Cellino has twice been previously convicted of fraud and is currently
contesting a separate charge of embezzlement.

He received a 15-month suspended prison sentence in 2001 after being
convicted of false accounting at Cagliari.

A previous conviction in 1996 for fraudulently claiming EU agricultural
subsidies was

Re: [LU] David Cohn in Grauniad

That's about as reassuring as that momentary thought you have at the point your 
sphincter opens when you play 'fart or follow-through during a bout of 
dysentery whilst stood in a crowded lift.

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 On 18 Mar 2014, at 19:32, Richard Walker richleed...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
 
 Don't worry David Haigh has assured us that we won't be going into 
 Administration.
 
 On 18 Mar 2014, at 14:36, Jeremy Adams jeremyadam...@hotmail.com wrote:
 
 Doesn't bode well David Conn knows his stuff. So now who funds the 1 million 
 a month deficit?
 Jeremy
 
 
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[LU] I can't say I blame him

2014-03-12 Thread Chris Briggs

http://sport.bt.com/sportfootball/football/cellino-halts-leeds-payments-S11363883718360

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Re: [LU] a punter and their money...

2014-03-11 Thread Chris Briggs

Well, using the following assumptions to first account for attrition;

1) A percentage will have caught the lurgy since the weekend
2) Some will miss out due to the missus 'going to bingo/ann summers party'
3) We are shite
4) That the chances of winning are worse than those for Audrey Hepburn painting 
my soffits whilst Ted Moult holds the ladder.
5) Holby City is on the telly
6) It's a work/school night
7) We are shite

After all those factors were taken into consideration are were run through my 
abacus by the enslaved goblin the result came out at 14,729, which is more than 
they deserve by a long way.

Cheers

Chris

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 Any guesses as to the size of the crowd tonight then?
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Re: [LU] Four nil down

2014-03-11 Thread Chris Briggs

Bloody hell Jim, you say your off home and they bang 2 in, perhaps if you had 
bogged of at half time we might be winning ;o)

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 Heading home at 60 minutes. McDermott untenable now. 
 
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[LU] Help me raise money for Shelter

2014-02-28 Thread Chris Briggs

Right lads (and BOTLs)

On Tuesday (4th) and for the second year running I am taking part in Vertical 
rush to raise money for Shelter.

For those that don't know Vertical Rush is a race to the top of Tower 42 
(Natwest tower) in London. It's 42 floors or 920 steps bottom to top of leg 
aching agony, running up this many stairs is unlike anything else, the air 
quality in the stairwell is poor, 1000 other people have breathed, sweated and 
farted in it. 
In a nutshell it's f**king hard work.

Last year the List helped me raise over £350 towards a total of £71k that my 
employers donated to Shelter.

Any sponsorship earned goes to a very good cause, every pound raised is a pound 
that can help to keep a roof over someone's head.

I can be sponsored via;

https://www.justgiving.com/chris-briggs2

Or via Text just text

FUZZ88 £1 to 70070 (or £1, £2, £3, £4, £5, £10)

A big thanks to those that either are going to or have already sponsored me.

MOT

Chris

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Re: [LU] Steve Gillen

2014-02-19 Thread Chris


Another lurker sends his best wishes.

All the best to you both.

Chris

On 2/19/2014 1:34 PM, Shane wrote:

Again a long long time lurker I would like to pass my best wishes to Steve and 
Paula .

You both are in my prayers

Get well soon Steve

Shane



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On 19 Feb 2014, at 19:25, rhys hodge r.ho...@xtra.co.nz wrote:

As a long time list lurker, I would like to pass on my best wishes. My thoughts 
and prayers are with Steve and his family MOT
cheers
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Re: [LU] Steve Gillen

2014-02-18 Thread Chris Nickson

Oh Paula, no. For myself, I can only imagine how you must be feeling right
now. My best wishes and deepest hopes for Steve's quick recovery.

Chris


On 18 February 2014 08:10, Steve Gillen steve.gil...@ntlworld.com wrote:

 Hello Leeds List,

 I am not sure how to contact you all so hopefully
 this will get about.  My name is Paula Gillen, My
 husband Steve is a part of your group. I wanted to
 tell you that Steve is in ICU in very, very
 critical condition.  He has infections that the
 doctors cannot identify that are attacking his
 body and are trying to find an antibiotic(s) that
 will be able to kill it. So far they are only
 managing barely to keep him from dying.  He is on
 dialysis and has been put into an induced coma and
 is on a ventilator. They are doing everything they
 can.  My email address is pgil...@ntlworld.com. I
 have sent this email to my computer in case things
 go horribly wrong and I can let you know. Please
 keep him in your thought and prayers. Thank you,

 Paula Gillen


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Re: [LU] Fwd: RE: LUST lose credibility in one fail swoop

I have it on good authority from someone who has known him since they were 
teenagers that he is a complete knobhead, in fact my mate Simon is mentioned 
many times in his autobiography.

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 On 14 Feb 2014, at 09:24, n...@6haroldplace.co.uk n...@6haroldplace.co.uk 
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 when they come to write the definitive list of over-rated, self-important 
 twats
 of the twentieth century, dear Stephen will be in the top 3.
 
 
 
 
 Morrissey is a legend.
 
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Re: [LU] Fwd: RE: LUST lose credibility in one fail swoop

Well, obviously you do as you sprang so quickly to his defence when I added an 
opinion from someone he knew.
Is there a bromance we should know about, after all it is valentines day ;o)

(Obviously I know that you will take this in good humour and not sulk)

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 On 14 Feb 2014, at 09:59, Ian Murray ianjamesmur...@hotmail.com wrote:
 
 Who cares? Amazing music and funny persona.
 
 I'm not mentioned in his autobiography.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 14 Feb 2014, at 17:53, Chris Briggs c_bri...@hotmail.co.uk wrote:
 
 I have it on good authority from someone who has known him since they were 
 teenagers that he is a complete knobhead, in fact my mate Simon is mentioned 
 many times in his autobiography.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 14 Feb 2014, at 09:24, n...@6haroldplace.co.uk 
 n...@6haroldplace.co.uk wrote:
 
 when they come to write the definitive list of over-rated, self-important 
 twats
 of the twentieth century, dear Stephen will be in the top 3.
 
 
 
 
 Morrissey is a legend.
 
 He says controversial things to wind people like you up, and it works.
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Re: [LU] Fwd: RE: LUST lose credibility in one fail swoop

I was never a fan, but like a lot of 80's music that many people dismissed at 
the time it does sound good in retrospect.
Well, except for the first album where the production is shocking and would 
benefit from tweaking/polishing.

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 In my heart of hearts I know he is a weird knobhead but his music is 
 peerless. I'm not a fan of the veggie nonsense, but I do enjoy listening to 
 his views on the monarchy.
 
 
 
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 On 14 Feb 2014, at 18:11, Chris Briggs c_bri...@hotmail.co.uk wrote:
 
 Well, obviously you do as you sprang so quickly to his defence when I added 
 an opinion from someone he knew.
 Is there a bromance we should know about, after all it is valentines day ;o)
 
 (Obviously I know that you will take this in good humour and not sulk)
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 14 Feb 2014, at 09:59, Ian Murray ianjamesmur...@hotmail.com wrote:
 
 Who cares? Amazing music and funny persona.
 
 I'm not mentioned in his autobiography.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 14 Feb 2014, at 17:53, Chris Briggs c_bri...@hotmail.co.uk wrote:
 
 I have it on good authority from someone who has known him since they were 
 teenagers that he is a complete knobhead, in fact my mate Simon is 
 mentioned many times in his autobiography.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 14 Feb 2014, at 09:24, n...@6haroldplace.co.uk 
 n...@6haroldplace.co.uk wrote:
 
 when they come to write the definitive list of over-rated, self-important 
 twats
 of the twentieth century, dear Stephen will be in the top 3.
 
 
 
 
 Morrissey is a legend.
 
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Re: [LU] Sacking McDermott: Did Cellino Do The Right Thing In The Wrong Way?

Can you still use 'window licker'?

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 On 14 Feb 2014, at 13:03, John Lee bruvvalee...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
 
 Cheers guys! 
  
 A variant of the word you used was part of a Monty Python sketch so I suspect 
 hundreds of thousands of other would be Gumbies might still associate it with 
 humour, but in the same way I don't use words like spazz (and who wasn't one 
 at school??) as time's moved on, I think we're articulate enough to call a 
 knuckle-dragger a knuckle-dragger :-)
  
 And a quick change of theme to Rugby League, but how nice to see Warrington 
 get a tupping by St Helens last night :-) Outclassed! Did they ever?
 
 
 
 On Thursday, 13 February 2014, 23:41, Eric B barl...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I apologise if I caused offence to anyone.
 
 I wasnt offended, nothing wrong with mongs. They are just as lovely as 
 anybody else.
 
 
 
 
 On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 5:16 AM, Phill Shields phillshie...@hotmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 John,
 
 I apologise if I caused offence to anyone.
 
 Perhaps not an excuse but it is a Gervaisism and he categorically refutes it 
 have any slight on people with Downs Syndrome. I accept it can be 
 misinterpreted and I am suitably humbled.
 
 MOT with people of any ethnicity, sexual orientation, religion or learning 
 ability .
 
 Phill
 
 
 
 Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2014 15:33:29 +
 From: bruvvalee...@yahoo.co.uk
 
 Subject: Re: [LU] Sacking McDermott: Did Cellino Do The Right Thing In The 
 Wrong Way?
 To: p...@cundell.com; phillshie...@hotmail.com
 CC: leedslist@gn.apc.org
 
 
 I don't see that we're kidding ourselves with BMcD Phil - I agree with many 
 of your points, and some of the footie I've witnessed in the last year 
 (mostly as an armchairee) has been pretty shocking. What I don't yet know is 
 if the players won't/can't do what McD wants, or whether he really is 
 struggling (at best) to instill any form of passing game/plan into LUFC? I 
 WANT him to succeed, but I'm on the fence as to i) whether he will and ii) 
 whether he'll even be there long enough? and finally, given your eloquence, 
 how about giving up the use of the word mongs? Knuckle-draggers, morons are 
 fine, but mongs?? Offensive for no real purpose!
 
  On Thursday, 13 February 2014, 13:48, Paul Cundell p...@cundell.com 
 wrote:
 It isn't a case of being right or wrong Phill, I just don't believe 
 thatBMc has had a fair crack of the whip.I doubt many would have put up with 
 the bullsh*t he's endured and I doubtany would come here now.As I said, we 
 let Grayson get shafted lets not let it happen again.We've been allowed to 
 fall into disarray by succesive owners and it'll takea lot more than 10 
 months and a million pounds to put right.Sorry to disappoint you but
  it could get worse before it gets better.CheersPaulPS we both agree that 
 Kenny doesn't care and I bet BMc knows it too, thiscould mean the other lads 
 are not ready yet.On 13 Feb 2014 13:11, Phill Shields 
 phillshie...@hotmail.com wrote: Paul, At the risk of contradicting 
 someone who is 
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Re: [LU] Mozza

Mozza and Cliff Richard will be a proper barrel of laughs in the US, I can't 
imagine 2 artists that could possibly be so diametrically opposed.

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 On 14 Feb 2014, at 20:18, Ed Morrish edmorr...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Well I'm under 40, so I'm going to have to take you old-timers' word/s for it 
 that he was good at the time...
 
 Ed.
 
 On 14 Feb 2014, at 10:38, Graham Farr graham.f...@yara.com wrote:
 
 Legendand just got a 2 album dealabout time.
 
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Re: [LU] Like London buses...

2014-02-07 Thread Chris Briggs

I can't see that being a long lasting arrangement, I fully expect the other 25% 
to be sold to Cellino and then Haigh will be on his way. For someone who 
apparently has political ambitions he is leaving it a bit late to be sorting 
himself a seat out for next year, then again maybe he should stick to something 
he does well, er, answers on a postcard please.

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 On 7 Feb 2014, at 16:09, Ian Murray ianjamesmur...@hotmail.com wrote:
 
 Not really the forum for it though - maybe the Bahrain stock exchange or 
 something would be better. Like it was anything other than a fire sale.
 
 And we get to keep that fat bastard Haigh! Brilliant.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 7 Feb 2014, at 23:54, Jim Moran j...@jimmoran.co.uk wrote:
 
 They have exchanged contracts, that's completely new news.
 
 GFH issues a statement as they are selling part of an asset they own
 and letting their shareholders know, presumably as it's a legal
 requirement from the stock exchange.
 Leeds United issued a statement as a company that has just been sold
 (mostly) by GFH.
 
 It's about the only thing they've done right?
 
 All that needs to happen now is the FL to approve it, which they will.
 
 Yoevil then?
 
 On 7 February 2014 15:49, Ian Murray ianjamesmur...@hotmail.com wrote:
 They just ooze bullshit.
 
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 On 7 Feb 2014, at 23:09, Nigel Sykes ni...@sykesonline.com wrote:
 
 .today we get not one, but TWO statements from Leeds United about the
 take-over.  One from Nooruddin (our Chairman, don't forget) and one from
 Alrayes (MD of GFH, apparently).  Neither statement say anything we didn't
 already know, and both basically say the same as each other.
 
 
 
 Two statements. I ask you!  Even when they finally get off their arses and
 try to do something, they still manage to make themselves look amateurish.
 
 
 
 Nigel
 
 (the Dublin one)
 
 
 
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[LU] Touting for sponsors for Shelter's Vertical Rush

2014-02-05 Thread Chris Briggs

Fellow Listers,

I hope you don't mind the blatant attempt to tout for sponsors.

For the second year running my employer (Fujitsu) is putting together a team to 
take part in Shelter's Vertical rush. Last year as a team we managed to raise 
in excess of £71k from this event alone and a total of about £300k spread 
across the year from other challenges.

For those that don't know Vertical Rush is a race to the top of Tower 42 
(Natwest tower) in London. It's 42 floors or 920 steps bottom to top of leg 
aching agony, running up this many stairs is unlike anything else, the air 
quality in the stairwell is poor, 1000 other people have breathed, sweated and 
farted in it. In a nutshell it's f**king hard work.

Last year I managed a time of 10 minutes, which considering I had done no 
training due to suffering a 'brain fart' wasn't bad. I am hoping for around the 
7:30 mark.

Any sponsorship earned goes to a very good cause, every pound raised is a pound 
that can help to keep a roof over someone's head.

I can be sponsored via;

https://www.justgiving.com/chris-briggs2

Or via Text just text

FUZZ88 £5 to 70070 (or £1, £2, £3, £4, £5, £10)

Cheers

Chris

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Re: [LU] TO Twit addict

2014-02-05 Thread Chris Briggs

Glad it's not just me, I also keep looking at the Newsnow page.

News always breaks just after the square ball podcast has been recorded.

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 Can't. Stop. Checking. Twitter. 
 
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Re: [LU] LU: the ongoing fiasco

2014-02-04 Thread Chris Briggs

Looking at this from a different perspective if Cellino isn't successful in
taking over I expect a massive amount of shit to hit various fans in the shape
of legal challenges to Leeds, GFH and the football League.

Firstly, GFH issued a public statement confirming sale of a 75% stake of Leeds.
Because of this I would expect Cellino to issue a challenge to GFH based on
their discussions with Farnan and Sports Capital for even contemplating another
offer having reached an agreement to sell, especially as Haigh can hardly be
considered a neutral.
Any whiff of a challenge to the integrity of an investment bank is going to
cast a cloud over its ability to deliver a service.

Should Cellino fall the FL test, I think he might challenge the decision based
upon Shaun Harvey's potential for impartiality due to his recent involvement in
Leeds

I'm not pretending to know the answers or the strength of the legal arguments
(a weak legal argument has never stopped anyone kicking up a shitstorm), I just
thought I would explore the possibility of what might turn this into a
protracted circus.

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On 4 Feb 2014, at 09:58, Dr Michael Benjamin m...@myray.com wrote:

Reports that Cellini is over the FL hurdle. That Farnan/ Haigh are backed
by a L'Pool spiv.
And now Cellini's version:

FURIOUS Massimo Cellino has warned Leeds owners not to back out of their
deal to sell the club to him.
A bid matching the Italians has been put together by a rival consortium and
will be submitted today.
Yet speaking to SunSport from his home in Miami, the eccentric Italian said
he had already paid for 75 per cent of the club and his deal was done.
Cellino, who owns Cagliari in Serie A, fumed: The money was paid on Friday.
Me and the Bahraini (Leeds chairman Salah Nooruddin), were serious people.
Between us there is no problem. But in the middle there is a problem, there
is a lot of s*** going on.
The Bahraini trusts me and I trust him. He could have done other deals but
chose me because I showed I could run a club. Cellino is livid that talks
could be about to start with another bidder and lays the blame at the door
of managing director David Haigh.
He added: Im in Miami so I dont know exactly whats going on now. But I know
there was a deal. The only thing is David with this tricky behaviour. There
is a lot of s*** going on.
The rival bid features Irishman Mike Farnan and Andrew Flowers, MD of Leeds
shirt sponsors Enterprise Insurance.
Video:Brian McDermott reveals all on 'non-sacking'FootballLEEDS boss
explains the farce that surrounded his departure and return
But Cellino says his only hurdle now is the Football Leagues fit and proper
person test, which he expects to pass even though he has TWICE been
convicted for fraud. He said: Ive had 22 years as an owner in Italy where
regulations are much stricter than in England. I dont see why this should
be an issue.
The 57-year-olds lawyer told McDermott he was sacked on Friday, with
Cellino later explaining the manager had done everything to get fired.
Yet a day later he wanted McDermott back. The manager, 52, avoided
Saturdays 5-1 win over Huddersfield before returning to training yesterday.
Cellino admits his relationship with McDermott and the fans hasnt got off
to a good start.
But he added: I already love this club and want to do something right for
it. I want to get it back where it belongs, in the Premier League.
Despite Cellino claiming he has no problems with McDermott, the former
Reading chief was unsure if he would still be in charge for Saturdays trip
to Yeovil.
He said: I cant answer that. No manager can guarantee anything in this day
and age.
I spoke to a lot of important people in the game who said You shouldnt go
back.
But there was no way I could walk away from Leeds.

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On 4 February 2014 11:47, Richard Naef rich...@triumph-computers.co.ukwrote:

points well made and I generally agree with you Chris, but a bit different
from what you posted on Saturday, where you seemed to blame BMcD largely
for
his demise

Re: [LU] LU: the ongoing fiasco

2014-02-04 Thread Chris Wright

I don't see any inconsistency - in business, be it football or any other type, 
takeovers happen all the time. As an employee of the football club, McDermott 
took a huge risk in publicly backing one prospective buyer - once that buyer 
failed, he would have been first out of the door in any business. It's about 
cause and effect, not blame.

The point I made later was that somebody must have given Cellino the impression 
he was 'in control'. That person must have been a member of the board. Had that 
not happened, this debacle would have played out later in a more measured way.

So, no change of mind. McDermott has been naive in backing the wrong horse (he 
backed them before it was known that their backers had walked away) and people 
being what they are, incoming owners wanting their own men at the wheel, that 
was enough. Got nothing to do with professionalism, it's just the way the world 
turns.

I do have one more observation about McDermott - team selections during the bad 
run - where were Murphy and Mowett? Injured? I do think he lost the plot during 
that run, 6-0 to Sheffield? Perfectly understandable and I am a supporter, but 
jobs have been lost for less.


Chris Wright









On 4 Feb 2014, at 09:47, Richard Naef rich...@triumph-computers.co.uk wrote:

 points well made and I generally agree with you Chris, but a bit different
 from what you posted on Saturday, where you seemed to blame BMcD largely for
 his demise and suggested he made public pronouncements that forced Cellino's
 hand - what's made you change your mind?  From where I'm, sitting he seems
 to have conducted himself professionally at all times, and has done nothing
 to deserve being sacked.  
 
 -Original Message-
 From: leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org]
 On Behalf Of Chris Wright
 Sent: 03 February 2014 19:51
 To: Leeds List
 Subject: [LU] LU: the ongoing fiasco
 
 
 Sorry about the duplicate post earlier - I'm very sceptical about all
 parties in
 this fiasco.
 
 We're all up in arms about the Italians, but we know no facts, only spin
 that is
 in the main being shaped by a future tory politician.
 
 Some questions need answering : Who gave the Italians the impression they
 were in charge on Friday? That had to be someone in the current
 management team?
 
 What exactly is the role of this solicitor that was thrown out of the
 stadium
 this afternoon? He's not just the Cellino family solicitor, on the
 contrary, he's
 a player in his own right - has been involved in all manner of football
 related
 issues..what made him think he had the authority to sack McDermott? Is
 there any truth in the suggestion that the existing owners wanted rid of
 McDermott?
 
 Is Festa really being lined up as manager? even Cellino has said that he
 doesn't have the experience to manage a team - given that there were
 allegedly 4 Italian players lined up to sign, it is credible that they
 would need a
 familiar face around the place.
 
 Is David Haigh even remotely competent? He brokered the deal with Ken
 Bates, or so he claims, should he not have known about the £4m payment
 due this month?
 
 Do we really want ot go down the road of having two consortia, neither of
 whom had enough money to match Cellino's offer, join together to buy the
 club? What happens once they do? Where is the war chest for transfers?
 How do they propose to sort out the cash flow issue? Where are the funds
 to
 cover the cash flow until it is sorted out? How do they propose to pay
 back
 the loans made to the club by Sports Capital - that looks like an absolute
 minefield...?
 
 My life experience tells me never to trust a politician. Especially a
 Tory. My
 worst fear is we're being spun by a clown in the grip of a panic. One
 credible
 scenario is that Cellino was told to go ahead and assume control, and
 panic
 set in when it became clear that the crowd (source of income) and the
 sponsors  (source of income) were having none of it. If I'm right, it
 won't end
 well. God forbid we get a management team of ten or more people!
 
 On the plus side - Saturday was magnificent with several players coming of
 age. Ross McCormack has exhibited leadership qualities I didn't think he
 had
 and Brian is back. Let's hope the players can keep the impetus going,
 we're
 not all that far short of the play offs.
 
 
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[LU] There's a lot of bollocks.....

.spouted on this list.

The annual archive of my list emails has shown that in exactly the last 4 years 
we have managed to clog up the ether with 25,573 emails.

Actually, better make that 25,574 with this one.

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Re: [LU] There's a lot of bollocks.....

Helium, eh, that would explain how wireless communications work.

You're right about the high pitch, my dog has just gone mental when I opened 
this mail.

Apologies in advance, I have just reduced the pitch of my email using the Barry 
White app on my iPhone, the low frequency may trigger unexpected bowel 
movements.

 On 3 Feb 2014, at 10:34, Richard Naef rich...@triumph-computers.co.uk 
 wrote:
 
 Oi Chris, email stopped using Ether ages ago because people kept on falling
 asleep, it's helium now, which is why everyone sounds a bit high pitched.
 
 -Original Message-
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 On Behalf Of Chris Briggs
 Sent: 03 February 2014 10:29
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 Subject: [LU] There's a lot of bollocks.
 
 .spouted on this list.
 
 The annual archive of my list emails has shown that in exactly the last 4
 years
 we have managed to clog up the ether with 25,573 emails.
 
 Actually, better make that 25,574 with this one.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 
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Re: [LU] More news later?

Not sure I like this idea floating around of Sport Capital and Farnan's group 
getting together and sticking in a bid.
Sounds like a massive clash of egos and pissing contests to me. I can't see it 
being successful, they just seem to want to do it so that Cellino can't have 
it, very childish and likely to end in tears, most probably ours.

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 On 3 Feb 2014, at 11:07, Nigel Sykes ni...@sykesonline.com wrote:
 
 BMcD is apparently going to be talking to the press after training today -
 at 13:15
 
 
 
 Should be interesting.
 
 
 
 Nigel
 
 (the Dublin one)
 
 
 
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Re: [LU] More news later?

In terms of the takeover it is more like trying to choose your favourite 
sexually transmitted disease, it's going to be painful, elements may need 
lancing and there's going to be a lot of unpleasant discharge ;o)

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 On 3 Feb 2014, at 12:05, Dr Michael Benjamin m...@myray.com wrote:
 
 I have gut feeling that you are right.
 A lot of manipulation and spin going on. 
 I think we are getting to choose between been run over by a bus or 
 steamroller.
 Not sure at all. 
 
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 On 3 February 2014 13:16, Chris Briggs c_bri...@hotmail.co.uk wrote:
 Not sure I like this idea floating around of Sport Capital and Farnan's 
 group getting together and sticking in a bid.
 Sounds like a massive clash of egos and pissing contests to me. I can't see 
 it being successful, they just seem to want to do it so that Cellino can't 
 have it, very childish and likely to end in tears, most probably ours.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
  On 3 Feb 2014, at 11:07, Nigel Sykes ni...@sykesonline.com wrote:
 
  BMcD is apparently going to be talking to the press after training today -
  at 13:15
 
 
 
  Should be interesting.
 
 
 
  Nigel
 
  (the Dublin one)
 
 
 
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Re: [LU] Cellino Biog from Beeb site - sounds lovely!