[LU] One for Voicey
From the New Statesman http://www.newstatesman.com/blogs/lifestyle/2012/07/last-champions The Last Champions Leeds United’s title win of 1992 was the last of its kind in many ways. November 1992. Éric Cantona joins Manchester United from Leeds United for £1.2m. In the previous season, the last of the old First Division, Howard Wilkinson’s Leeds had beaten Alex Ferguson’s Manchester United to the title, the arrival of tempestuous France striker Cantona in February supposedly being the catalyst for Leeds’ triumph. They clinched the honour when Manchester United lost 2-0 to Liverpool, after which Ferguson told the ITV cameras that “Leeds haven’t won the league. Manchester United have lost it.” The following season, Cantona became the creative centre of Ferguson’s United as they ended their 26-year run without a title. The narrative formed that Ferguson succeeded in handling Cantona, the difference between winning the league and losing it, where Wilkinson ultimately failed – the first of many managers seen off by Ferguson as his side dominated the new Premier League. But is this fair? In his new book, The Last Champions: Leeds United and the Year That Football Changed Forever (published by Bantam Press), Dave Simpson busts the Cantona myth – he only scored three goals for Leeds in 1991-92, none of which changed matches – and breaks the mould in exploring team-building. The current fashion in football writing is to examine how managers built dynasties: Jonathan Wilson’s Inverting the Pyramid shows how Herbert Chapman won consecutive titles at Huddersfield Town and Arsenal, how Helenio Herrera made Internazionale into Italy’s leading club and how Valery Lobanovsky brought long-term success to Dynamo Kyiv, whilst Graham Hunter’s book on Barcelona praises the structural planning that made them the world’s most technically advanced club. Conversely, Simpson asks how Wilkinson achieved his singular success and why it has been so neglected within the history of English football, and even within that of Leeds United. This was Leeds’ third (and, as it remains, last) championship. The previous two were won by Don Revie in 1969 and 1974, after which he became England manager and was replaced, infamously, by nemesis Brian Clough, whose 44-day reign was dramatised in David Peace’s dark, paranoid novel The Damned United. Revie turned Leeds from Second Division also-rans into a domestic and European force, changing their kit from blue and yellow to white to channel the spirit of Real Madrid, his club’s insularity infuriating Clough and others but proving central to their decade-long challenge for major honours. Leeds’ long decline began in the mid-Seventies; the board appointed several former members of Revie’s team as managers in unsuccessful efforts to recapture the past. In 1982, under Revie favourite Allan Clarke, Leeds were relegated; he was replaced by another, Eddie Gray, and then Billy Bremner, neither of whom could return them to the First Division. Finally, in October 1988, with Leeds fighting demotion to the Third Division, Bremner was sacked. As we learn here, managing director Bill Fotherby, having already made an audacious effort to sign Diego Maradona, tried to persuade Bobby Robson to quit England for Leeds – Robson declined but recommended Sheffield Wednesday manager Howard Wilkinson, who agreed to step down a division, convinced that he could revitalise the former champions. Wilkinson, a pragmatic and intelligent disciplinarian, succeeded where Clough failed in removing all Revie mementoes; he reorganised the board, demanding influence over all aspects of the club. Breaking up cliques, introducing harder training and dropping several players, ‘Sergeant Wilko’ quickly turned Leeds around, winning the Second Division in 1990 and finishing fourth in 1991 before his unexpected and unrepeated victory the season after. Wilkinson signed a certain type of player to get Leeds out of the Second Division and another on promotion, making notorious ‘enforcer’ Vinnie Jones central to his midfield before replacing him with playmaker Gary McAllister. Jones was the first of Wilkinson’s buys to be dumped: a constant theme throughout, with so many interviews with ex-players closing with melancholic reflections on the brusque manner of their exits. (In this, there’s continuity with Simpson’s previous book, The Fallen, where he attempted to trace everyone who’d been in The Fall with the group’s only constant member, Mark E. Smith, who said that running it was like managing a football team: “sometimes you’ve got to replace the centre-forward”.) In a manner seldom attempted, let alone achieved since, Wilkinson turned uncapped and unheralded players into champions: none of his first-choice centre-forwards, central defenders or his goalkeeper were internationals. In summer 1991, backed by millionaire socialist chairman Leslie Silver, Wilkinson spent heav
[LU] Fans Panel
JOIN THE FANS PANEL - HAVE YOUR SAY Yorkshire Radio is calling on Leeds United fans to join our team for the new season as we look to add some fresh faces to the Yorkshire Radio Fans Panel. The 'Fans Panel' is back for it's 4th year - giving you the chance to share your passion and love of the Whites on the airwaves. You'll have the chance to join Eddie Gray in the Gantry and be part of the commentary team for a home match. You will also be part of the 'Matchday Replay' on a Monday night as we review the weekend's action in the studios and take part in the Yorkshire Radio Breakfast Show 'Kick Off'. If you're the kind of person who listens to the radio and thinks 'I could do that' and just loves talking football then get in touch and tell us why we should pick you to join our existing squad? Go to yorkshireradio.net and click on email the studio and tell us why you want to join our team by the end of the game between Burton and Leeds on Tuesday 7th August. The new additions will join the Fans Panel 2012/13 and we will announce our new signings before the opening League game against Wolves on August 18th. Yorkshire Radio will bring you full match commentary of every first team game in 2012/13 on DAB across Yorkshire and 104.7FM starting with Leeds v Shrewsbury on August 11th ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org PETE CASS (1962 - 2011) Rest In Peace Mate
Re: [LU] Takeover Question
On 26/07/2012 05:00, Dr Michael Benjamin wrote: After a night's sleep: My considered view is that the "takeover" is a smokescreen to keep the knockers off Batsey's back whilst he has a quiet Summer in Monaco counting up all the money he'll have to spend on fripperies for Susannah from the player sales and police rebate Simple eh? Betty ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org PETE CASS (1962 - 2011) Rest In Peace Mate
Re: [LU] I'm Jon Blythe but in reverse
Watched the women at Cardiff today and loved every minute of it, just sad that I've had to cancel my visit there on Saturday for their next game. I am organising a trip to Throstle Nest to see the Leeds Ladies before Christmas, it will include pre match fun in Pudsey followed by a quick jaunt up the road post match for more fun and a curry. I'm more than happy if folk want to join me and I guarantee that it will be a laugh Excuse me if I'm being positive but that's what people are like from LS13 I would expect to be joined by Mr and Mrs Blythe for at least the fun as I know they like a good meal :-) (Jon I'll contact you off list with my plan - Mr and Mrs Voicey are you up for it?) More details when I've had time to sort out a way of getting the motorised armchair sorted for a longer trip than the co-op in Invergordon Betty PS DRB this concerns you as well lad! ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org PETE CASS (1962 - 2011) Rest In Peace Mate
[LU] Luke Varney completes Leeds United move
BBC saying: Portsmouth striker Luke Varney has joined Championship side Leeds United on a two-year deal. The 29-year-old accepted a compromise agreement over the remaining two years on his Pompey contract. Portsmouth cannot afford to keep any of their contracted players on their current deals. With Varney gone, the remaining seven are Tal Ben Haim, Greg Halford, Erik Huseklepp, Dave Kitson, Liam Lawrence, David Norris and Kanu. On Tuesday Pompey announced they had until 10 August to get their remaining contracted players to take pay cuts or leave the club. Varney's exit means the Fratton Park side now have seven senior players left on their books. The former Crewe, Charlton, Derby, Sheffield Wednesday and Blackpool striker, who cost the Addicks £2m when he left Gresty Road in 2007, has scored 68 goals in 288 appearances with his clubs. He got six goals in 30 games for Portsmouth after joining them from the Rams last summer. ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org PETE CASS (1962 - 2011) Rest In Peace Mate
[LU] Bates finally gets it right in court
http://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/sport/leeds-united/latest-whites-news/leeds-united-to-get-1m-policing-refund-1-4771001 At this rate he's going to start taking the empties back to the offy too! Betty ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org PETE CASS (1962 - 2011) Rest In Peace Mate
Re: [LU] Leeds Dripping Riots
http://www.secretleeds.co.uk/forum/Messages.aspx?ThreadID=215&StartAtMessage=0ص Full details can be found on pages 432-437 of volume 2 of John Mayalls "Annals of Yorkshire" published in 1874 and dealing with events in Yorkshire from the earliest history to that date. i will just give a brief summary but I recommend looking up the fascinating details.Incidentally these books are a goldmine of information and are available in scanned pdf format from various suppliers on the net. Mr Chorley was a surgeon with offices in Park Square, his I rish cook took some dripping home with her regarding it as a "perk" of the job. Chorley had been unhappy with her for some time and spoke to his friend who happened to be the chief magistrate of Leeds. he recommended charging her and the cook was duly convicted and sent to Armley which in those days (1864/1865) was for both sexes.This caused a mass outcry from the working classes with ballads, graffiti and other derogatory stuff appearing.A collection for the cook was held and when a fake announcement was put out about her release crowds flocked to Armley a week before the correct date.On being told they were wrong they went round to Chorley's house. He came out and told them he would do it afgain at which point he was pelted and his windows put in.Police were called and order restored.However a week later the cook was released early in the morning and slipped off to Scarborough. The crowds who assembled refused to believe she had gone and ugly scenes ensued. Finally convinced they went to Park Square and from there to the Town Hall where the council were sat panicking. The council sent for more police from bradford and also a squadron of cavalry from York.It was February and there was snow and ice on the streets so the crowd pelted Chorley and his house with snowballs as well as the police. A baton charge was led by the chief constable of Leeds (they led from the front in those days!) but he slipped and broke his hip, dying some weeks later from this. the police managed to clear the crowd but not before an onlooker was hit by a stone and given a fatal wound.Some people were arrested and the crowd dispersed before the cavalry were used. If the cavalry had been used we would in all likelihood know this as the Leeds equivalent of Manchesters "Peterloo" as the streets were very narrow then around the town Hall and a charge would have trampled people underfoot. This is a very condensed version and it is worth reading the events in full to get the proper sense of drama. ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org PETE CASS (1962 - 2011) Rest In Peace Mate
[LU] Welcome
Welcome back on board Mr Jon Blythe and Mr Dave "Voice Of Football" Walmsley All we need now is Fake Tan! Betty ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org PETE CASS (1962 - 2011) Rest In Peace Mate
[LU] Vets Draw
Leeds vs Exeter 9 am pitch G ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org PETE CASS (1962 - 2011) Rest In Peace Mate
Re: [LU] Imminent?
On 19/07/2012 08:51, Ed Morrish wrote: ...and a big "hello" to the boys and girls at GCHQ. Tell us, which is your favourite curry house...? I think they are fish and fernerk fans mesen. Probably with scraps on. However I'm willing to be disabused. Betty ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org PETE CASS (1962 - 2011) Rest In Peace Mate
[LU] Worldnet WEATHER
Check this out for what looks like a good Stadi and Sundi: http://uk.weather.com/weather/10day-Leeds-LS16 http://youtu.be/MD3eo63spaA John Kettley is a weather man and so is Michael Fish... Betty ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org PETE CASS (1962 - 2011) Rest In Peace Mate
[LU] WorldNET12 Programme
WorldNET 12 The IFA Cup The Jonny Bramley Plate The Big Tam Vets Bowl Bodington Hall University of Leeds 20/21/22 July 2012 FRIDAY 20th JULY '12 1.00pm Bar Opens 2.00pm Control Desk opens 5.30pm Weetwood Pavilion and Bar Opens WorldNET OPENER on the Weetwood pitch: 6.00pm IFA Challenge Cup Final Kidderminster Harriers vs Ayr Utd (45 mins each way 10 mins half time) 8.00pm Weetwood Pavilion and Bar Closes FRIDAY EVENING FROM 8 'TIL LATE IN THE BOD BAR A CELEBRATION OF MA JULIE! 8.15pm PRESENTATIONS I IFA Challenge Cup Presentation: Officials, Runners Up, Winners Scottish League Presentation IFA League Presentation IFA Challenge Cup Draw 2012/13 (draw will be in the Bodington Bar) 1.00am Bodington Bar Closes SATURDAY 21ST JULY '12 7.30am Breakfast for residents (Non Residents may pay at till) 8.30am North Pavilion Opens 9.00am WorldNET 2012 Day 1 starts Group Stages for all Competitions Friendly games for all teams 10.00am Breakfast ends 11.00am Bodington Bar opens 5.00pm WorldNET 2012 Day 1 play ends 5.15pm North Pavilion Closes 6.00pm PRESENTATIONS II IFA Team Of The Year: The Peter Fincham Shield WorldNET 2012 Day 2 draws: Cup, Plate and those lovely Vets NB draws will be available after 9pm at www.boocock.net/draws.htm Midnight Bodington Bar closes (and everyone has a good night's sleep ready for an early start) SUNDAY 22nd JULY '12 7.30am Breakfast for Residents (Non Residents may pay at till) 7.45am North Pavilion Opens 8.00am WorldNET 2012 Day 2 starts 10.00am Breakfast ends Noon Bodington Bar opens 5.00pm WorldNET 2012 Day 2 play ends 5.15pm North Pavilion closes 5.30pm PRESENTATIONS III Brian Dowling Trophy (team of the tournament) WorldNET Vets Competition: Officials, Runners Up, Big Tam MOTM, Winners WorldNET Plate Competition: Officials, Runners Up, Jonny Bramley MOTM, Winners WorldNET Cup Competition: Officials, Voice of Football MOTM, Runners Up, WorldNET Winners 2012 7.30pm Bodington Bar Closes safe journey home! ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org PETE CASS (1962 - 2011) Rest In Peace Mate
[LU] Birthday wishes
Just like to say Happy Birthdau to Dr Mike! What is it this year Mike 95? :-) ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org PETE CASS (1962 - 2011) Rest In Peace Mate
[LU] WorldNET on twitter
Just to remind you that we are at https://www.facebook.com/groups/worldnetifa/ on Arsebook betty ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org PETE CASS (1962 - 2011) Rest In Peace Mate
Re: [LU] Non LU: For the Yorkshireman within
On 10/07/2012 05:12, Chris Nickson wrote: I know, it's horrible self-advertising, but if your missus has been getting all worked up over this 50 Shades of Grey book, you can fight back with 20 Shades of Yorkshire. For real Yorkshiremen, and it's a John Terry-free zone. 77p for Kindle in the UK, $1 in the US. UK: http://www.amazon.co.uk/20-Shades-Of-Yorkshire-ebook/dp/B008J2VIT8/ref=sr_1_1?s=digital-text&ie=UTF8&qid=1341892343&sr=1-1 US: http://www.amazon.com/dp/B008J2VIT8 will it work on a KOBO? ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org PETE CASS (1962 - 2011) Rest In Peace Mate
Re: [LU] Terry
You need to study the results of the Stephen Lawrence Inquiry to understand this. Basically it's in chapter 47 of the Lawrence Inquiry report by Lord MacPherson which was published in 1999 DEFINITION OF RACIST INCIDENT === 12. That the definition should be: "A racist incident is any incident which is perceived to be racist by the victim or any other person". 13. That the term "racist incident" must be understood to include crimes and non-crimes in policing terms. Both must be reported, recorded and investigated with equal commitment. 14. That this definition should be universally adopted by the Police, local Government and other relevant agencies. The whole report is at http://www.archive.official-documents.co.uk/document/cm42/4262/4262.htm and I would recommend anyone who has even the vaguest interest in racism in the UK in the last decade to read it. Most forward thinking organisations adopt this definition as their starting point for deciding what is and isn't racist. Terry's comments were examined and percieved as being racist, hence the court case. Without all the detail of the case which will no doubt be presented in October you cannot gainsay the decision to prosecute. Funnily enough (now) this is how our legal system works. I for one will be interested to hear the prosecution's case. Betty ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org PETE CASS (1962 - 2011) Rest In Peace Mate
Re: [LU] New away kit
On 06/07/2012 13:41, Eric B wrote: is it sunny where you are? you re not in england then.. I'm in my sunny home up on the Cromarty Firth! ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org PETE CASS (1962 - 2011) Rest In Peace Mate
Re: [LU] New away kit
On 06/07/2012 13:26, Nicholas Armit wrote: So why have we sold Clayton then? Clear out of all second division players before our new owner buys the entire Spanish team (nice linen jacket worn only when its sunny already on and heading for the door) Betty ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org PETE CASS (1962 - 2011) Rest In Peace Mate
Re: [LU] New away kit
On 06/07/2012 11:05, Dr Michael Benjamin wrote: Serious question to Betty: When we played Hapoel (about a trillion years ago as I recall) we got a team up from the local Jewish Community to play our Lards irregulars. The lad who organised things at our end for the Hapoel team is that bloke who writes books about former Leeds Players. David Saffer's the name and he was OK. He would be well worth talking to about this idea. www.dsaffer.com is his website and his email is da...@dsaffer.com. As regards the Trust talk to them via their web site http://lufctrust.squarespace.com/contact-us/ and direct your email to the Chairman Gary Cooper. I can see where you are coming from here and it has legs.. Betty ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org PETE CASS (1962 - 2011) Rest In Peace Mate
Re: [LU] New away kit
On 06/07/2012 09:03, Ted wrote: Sheikh Abdullah bin Hamad bin Isa Al Khalifa http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abdullah_bin_Hamad_bin_Isa_Al_Khalifa :-) ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org PETE CASS (1962 - 2011) Rest In Peace Mate
[LU] YEP LATEST Leeds United in transfer talks: Warnock poised to splash new owner’s cash
Not much leaking out of SOTG this morning then. http://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/sport/leeds-united/latest-whites-news/leeds-united-in-transfer-talks-warnock-poised-to-splash-new-owner-s-cash-1-4699716 By Phil Hay Published on Monday 2 July 2012 08:17 Neil Warnock was working to tie up loose ends in the transfer market today, in preparation for the planned takeover at Leeds United. The United manager is back after a holiday abroad and awaiting permission to conclude multiple transfers with funds supplied by prospective new owners of the Championship club. Investment from the Middle East is poised to arrive at Elland Road after an unnamed group agreed in principle a deal to purchase Leeds from chairman and majority shareholder Ken Bates, subject to due diligence and the investors passing the Football League’s Owners and Directors Test. The buyers are understood to see Warnock – appointed in February and under contract until the end of next season – as integral to their immediate plans and to have offered assurances about both his position and the money available for transfers. Warnock has worked in the meantime to put deals in place ready to complete, and the arrival of goalkeeper Paddy Kenny from Queens Park Rangers appears reliant only on Leeds meeting a fee of around £500,000. Sources in Leicester also claim the transfer of right-back Lee Peltier to Elland Road is effectively a done deal, with City said to value the 25-year-old at £350,000. Warnock has other matters to attend to with midfielder Michael Brown – recently offered a new one-year deal on reduced terms – now out of contract and Republic of Ireland Under-21 international Aidan White also at the end of his deal. Leeds have compensation rights for the 20-year-old, who has yet to accept the offer of a fresh deal at Elland Road, who is believed to have spoken to a rival Championship side. Crystal Palace, meanwhile, look ready to step up their interest in Ross McCormack in a bid to beat Huddersfield and Bristol City to the United striker’s signature. ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org PETE CASS (1962 - 2011) Rest In Peace Mate
[LU] Football is at 3 on a Saturday
A third Leeds game has been selected for live transmission by Sky, meaning the trip to Millwall has been moved back a day to Sunday, November 18 (1.15pm). The visit to south London joins the opening day game with Wolverhampton Wanderers and the derby at Sheffield Wednesday on October 19 in being shown live by the satellite broadcaster. Other kick-off changes for United – all on police advice – are the December 1 visit to Huddersfield Town (now 12.30pm), Derby County (1pm on December 8) and Nottingham Forest (1pm on Boxing Day). Leeds’ Tuesday, August 21 trip to Blackpool will kick-off at 8pm. ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org PETE CASS (1962 - 2011) Rest In Peace Mate
Re: [LU] Have I been a Leeds fan for too long?
On 29/06/2012 09:15, Errand Fivefold wrote: Throw in Lester Piggot and Ken Dodds and I might believe you! 'Fraid not Vern, just Jimmy Carr and some guy with a chip shop in Beeston ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org PETE CASS (1962 - 2011) Rest In Peace Mate
[LU] LUST Chairman re takeover
Gary Cooper on Radio Leeds: http://soundcloud.com/lufctrust/lust-chairman-gary-cooper-on-2 ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org PETE CASS (1962 - 2011) Rest In Peace Mate
[LU] takeover thoughts from web
http://www.clarkeonenil.co.uk/06/2012/an-open-letter-to-leeds-uniteds-next-owners/ The editorial collective asks for a longer view (with thanks to GG). Sir, You may be based out of the country, out of Europe, even. But these days you can’t escape English football wherever you go. So you immediately know who the big clubs are, what they doing and you even find out about Leeds after a while. If, dear new owner, you are under forty, you might remember when Leeds were quite a big club themselves. If you are a bit older, you might remember when there was no bigger club anywhere. Take for example Real Madrid: great in the late fifties and early sixties but the Revie Boys would have thrashed them from 1965 on. But this is not another trip down Memory Lane. This is about today and tomorrow. It’s about planning for the future. It is now over fifty years since a 33 year-old Don Revie was appointed Leeds United manager by a brave Chairman and Board who were committed to the club. It was a risk that paid huge dividends. Meticulous planning slowly began to pay off. The dominance Leeds achieved did not happen overnight but you could clearly see it coming once The Don had begun to influence everything. As time went by, simply being a Leeds fan was one long joy. The point I’m trying to bring across is that, once in the midst of greatness, everything about the club was great. I daresay the Revie Boys themselves, now respectfully ageing, didn’t see it quite the same as us fans since they were always struggling to recover from knocks and never given time to properly get fit but for us it was so exciting. It might seem now that we did really well in terms of trophies but, at the time, we thought we could and should have won everything we competed for. Watching the matches was fantastic but the time between games was special, too. After a mighty encounter in the 6th Round of the FA Cup, you just couldn’t wait till the Wednesday and another huge European match. Then back to winning the League the following Saturday. It didn’t always work out but it the whole adventure was amazing. And what do have now? Leeds were in an even worse position in 1961 than we are today, a second tier side. But they invested in the future with an ambitious young manager whom they backed in the transfer market. The manager built a team but also made the club one big family unit where everyone mattered. Ground improvements came after the team built success on the field. The nearest thing to a corporate box in those days was probably an old Air Raid Shelter. So, what exactly do we have now? A manager who is less than 2 years away from a State Pension and a not-so-go-ahead Chairman over the last 7 years who became a pensioner in the last century (and who hopefully is selling to you as you read this). We express no significant opinion either way on Neil Warnock but it is very unlikely that he has the hunger, desire, ambition and the time required that drove Revie to make Leeds a world class club from absolutely nowhere. They – well George Santayana says that, “Those who do not remember their past are condemned to repeat their mistakes.” That’s what is worrying about Leeds right now, we seem to have forgotten the bright times from our past and that includes the Wilkinson/O’Leary era. We seem stuck in the bad old habits that led us nowhere. I know most modern Leeds fans are thinking only of this coming season, with a dim thought of the next one. Don Revie was planning a revolution. He was planning for a time when the second tier no-hopers were going to become part of Europes elite. And, against all odds, he succeeded because of his strong character and because his ambition was backed up. And what do we have now? Who is going to your Don Revie? Over to you new owner (stc). ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org PETE CASS (1962 - 2011) Rest In Peace Mate
Re: [LU] Thank You!
On 28/06/2012 08:40, Eric B wrote: what so I can resub using another nick/email? we now do an identity check on all re subs and then we subject them to a list entry test where you have to expalin the relationship between the 42 and the 66 bus at the non Leysholme Estate end. Not daft us Swinnow lads :-) Betty ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org PETE CASS (1962 - 2011) Rest In Peace Mate
Re: [LU] Pay Pal Link
On 27/06/2012 14:16, Eric B wrote: I said offer OPTIONS, whats wrong with that? I have spoken to Eric about an alternative option off list. Anyone else who would like to take us into 2017 please contact me off list for internet banking details. (Obviously I'm not going to put banking details on a public email list) Meanwhile I am going to ask the Co-op if they can supply me with a treasurer's account or something similar - I will be looking for signatories if they can. Cheers Betty ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org PETE CASS (1962 - 2011) Rest In Peace Mate
[LU] Thank You!
Thanks to the generosity of the people listed below we now have enough cash to pay for nearly four years of list hosting (£240). Pete Castlehouse and James Lundon have agreed to help out with moderation too. The list lives! Long live the list! Graham Longbottom James Lundon Mark Bursa J H Moran Richard Duniec David Nattan Anthony Quane Simon Hart Nigel Sykes Michael Benajmin Verner Hanna Christopher Briggs Alec McQueen Brendan Osborne David Brennan Ian Dodds Mark Pilling Simon Tobias Paul Cundell Vijay Bhakta Alan Vince Richard Naef ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org PETE CASS (1962 - 2011) Rest In Peace Mate
Re: [LU] Pay Pal Link
On 27/06/2012 12:18, Eric B wrote: == My point remains: if you want payments then provide options. if not you risk at losing out. doesn't look like we are losing out: we now have enough cash to keep the list going until we defend our Champion's League title for two years on the trot (2014/15) :-) Betty ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org PETE CASS (1962 - 2011) Rest In Peace Mate
Re: [LU] New levels of indifference
On 27/06/2012 00:44, Ian Murray wrote: Can I have a period of exclusivity for the due diligence Betts? Only if I see the money up front in a bank account of my choosing :-) ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org PETE CASS (1962 - 2011) Rest In Peace Mate
Re: [LU] re takeover
On 26/06/2012 23:09, Ian Murray wrote: Don't give me any if this bleeding heart shit. We want ill-gotten oil money and buckets of the stuff! Imagine!! What? to run the list for another season? :-) ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org PETE CASS (1962 - 2011) Rest In Peace Mate
Re: [LU] New levels of indifference
On 25/06/2012 03:17, Jeremy Adams wrote: Okay, this list is really on it's last legs it seems. Well as much as it was quiet for a few days, this week has proved that the list can generate quite interesting stuffage when it wants. I had considered not paying the renewal to Green Net and just letting the list die however the invoice is now on my desk and, feck it, let's keep the old list going eh boys and girls? If anyone wants to contribute (last time I asked I raised enough to keep us afloat for two years) please feel free to shove in a contribution via paypal at http://www.leedslist.net/ the link is at the bottom of the page. The cost is about £60 a year so if we do as well as last time (we raised £120) we will have enough cash to be here until we win the Premiership in 2013/14 which would be pleasant :-) Plus does anyone else want to be added as a moderator in case I have to be away at all over the next two league winning seasons? Cheers, Betty PS Yes. I love this list, me. ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org PETE CASS (1962 - 2011) Rest In Peace Mate
Re: [LU] Bett - take over rumour
On 26/06/2012 15:59, DAVID NATTAN wrote: why have you disappeared after posting your takeover rumour ? Heyup lad, sorry, yes I did disappear but yet again I have a very poorly close relative who is probably not going to see the month out. Family first I say. Lister and Lards Back Room genius, Dave Dowden who first told me about the rumour had no further information and unusually none of my reliable sources could confirm things one way or another. However the club statement that due diligence is taking place, and that the "investors" are fit and proper suggests that it is a sale and that Bates as usual is unwilling to say that. But hey we are where we are. All I can say is that this is a very good statement in my mind as the club are being polite, a sure sign that Bates has been told NOT to piss anyone off as per usual. He has been very quiet recently hasn't he? I promise if I get any more guff I'll put it here first as I am 100% Leeds List me :-) One thing I can say is that my investment banker pal who knows about these things is confident that LUFC is a good buy for anyone with vision and liquidity but anyone hoping to make a quick buck would fall at the first hurdle as Bates always wants to see proof of money up front in a bank account, which makes emminenet sense to me. I've certainly got my fingers crossed and would consider returning to row W if Bates is out of the frame. Betty ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org PETE CASS (1962 - 2011) Rest In Peace Mate
Re: [LU] NON LU techy advice
On 26/06/2012 01:17, David Komadina wrote: I had the same thing happen to a different LCD monitor recently. Tried it on another PC altogether and it did the same thing. After a bit of research found it was a common problem with some when they get old. It went to the skip. Funnily enough.. kerplunk (the sound of a four year old screen landing in the skip) Thanks everyone for your advice betty ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org PETE CASS (1962 - 2011) Rest In Peace Mate
[LU] Rumour Mill
Apparently LUFC has been sold for £40 million to Robert Polet owner of Gucci, Hennessey Whiskey, Puma to name a few. ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org PETE CASS (1962 - 2011) Rest In Peace Mate
[LU] NON LU techy advice
I have been given an LG W22435 Monitor, it powers up shows a perfect image and then shuts down. Is it destined for the skip? Betty ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org PETE CASS (1962 - 2011) Rest In Peace Mate
Re: [LU] New levels of indifference
On 25/06/2012 07:49, DAVID NATTAN wrote: Brave performances overall but we are just not good enough After the match we took the dog for a walk and discussed the four games we have seen over the past two weekes. We did feel that in a limited time Roy Hodgson had made a start at dealing with a malaise that has permeated the England National team for several years. Admittedly a lot of that has been fuelled by a moronic press iaded and abetted by a distant FA. No off the pitch shennaigans this time round, no rumbles from within the team camp and no widldy optomistic forecasts from a team that always looked like it would never get further than the group stages. Last night answered a lot of questions for me. The way football is run and organised in England mitigates against having the best possible national team (the arguments that support that are well rehearsed). I like Roy Hodgson and the way he's organised things, he got a lot of mileage out of the team he had and I have a sneaking feeling that the world cup qualifiers later this year could be interesting - I've not been this intersted since 1966. I read this article on Saturday and I felt it gave an interesting angle on the team: http://tinyurl.com/7nh6rgu Dave, I know you are a big England fan but I wouldn't be depressed by all this - there might just be a bright light at the end of the tunnel mate Betty ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org PETE CASS (1962 - 2011) Rest In Peace Mate
Re: [LU] left backs
On 22/06/2012 13:32, Nigel Sykes wrote: Good God, I hadn't realised how much I'd lost touch with my own team. If you’d have told me that was the list of players who'd played for, say, Shrewsbury Town last year, I’d have believed you. Does anyone know just how many different players played for the first team last season? Betty ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org PETE CASS (1962 - 2011) Rest In Peace Mate
[LU] Those fixtures in full
has anyone noticed the sweetener with the membership renewal this season? Three £5 ticket discount vouchers for every £40 membership 2012/13 DateKO OpponentVenue 18/08/1215:00 Wolverhampton Wanderers H 21/08/1219:45 Blackpool A 25/08/1215:00 Peterborough United A 01/09/1215:00 Blackburn RoversH 15/09/1215:00 Cardiff CityA 18/09/1219:45 Hull City H 22/09/1215:00 Nottingham Forest H 29/09/1215:00 Bristol CityA 02/10/1219:45 Bolton WanderersA 06/10/1215:00 BarnsleyH 20/10/1215:00 Sheffield Wed A 23/10/1219:45 Charlton Athletic H 27/10/1215:00 Birmingham City H 03/11/1215:00 Brighton and Hove AlbionA 06/11/1219:45 Burnley A 10/11/1215:00 Watford H 17/11/1215:00 MillwallA 24/11/1215:00 Crystal Palace H 27/11/1219:45 Leicester City H 01/12/1215:00 Huddersfield Town A 08/12/1215:00 Derby CountyA 15/12/1215:00 Ipswich TownH 22/12/1215:00 Middlesbrough H 26/12/1215:00 Nottingham Forest A 29/12/1215:00 Hull City A 01/01/1315:00 Bolton WanderersH 12/01/1315:00 BarnsleyA 19/01/1315:00 Bristol CityH 26/01/1315:00 Middlesbrough A 02/02/1315:00 Cardiff CityH 09/02/1315:00 Wolverhampton Wanderers A 16/02/1315:00 Peterborough United H 19/02/1219:45 Blackpool H 23/02/1315:00 Blackburn RoversA 02/03/1315:00 MillwallH 05/03/1319:45 Leicester City A 09/03/1315:00 Crystal Palace A 16/03/1315:00 Huddersfield Town H 30/03/1315:00 Ipswich TownA 01/04/1319:45 Derby CountyH 06/04/1315:00 Charlton Athletic A 13/04/1315:00 Sheffield Wed H 16/04/1319:45 Burnley H 20/04/1315:00 Birmingham City A 27/04/1315:00 Brighton and Hove AlbionH 04/05/1315:00 Watford A ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org PETE CASS (1962 - 2011) Rest In Peace Mate
Re: [LU] Fit & Proper
On 07/06/2012 12:12, Dr Michael Benjamin wrote: Please meet Mr Ken Bates a fit and proper person to ruin any football club Bates Gets £1 Harassment Bill By PA Updated Thursday, 7th June 2012 Leeds chairman Ken Bates has been ordered to pay £10,000 to a former director who sued him for harassment. Melvyn Levi and his wife Carole claimed they suffered stress as a result of announcements on the club radio station allegedly likening Levi to a criminal on the run. They also claimed comments made by Bates in his match day programme notes amounted to speculation over the state of their marriage. Mr Levi was awarded £10,000 in compensation at Leeds County Court but his wife's claim failed. Judge Mark Gosnell said: "Mr Levi has succeeded in his claim and has been awarded £10,000 and Mrs Levi's claim has failed." Source: PA ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org PETE CASS (1962 - 2011) Rest In Peace Mate
Re: [LU] NON LU: MacMillan Fundraiser
On 31/05/2012 16:56, Richard Naef wrote: good on you Dave, brilliant cause. Hear Hear, best charity I've been involved in. We do lots for 'em in Easter Ross. Good one DRB Betty ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org PETE CASS (1962 - 2011) Rest In Peace Mate
Re: [LU] takeover latestish
On 29/05/2012 23:15, Richard Naef wrote: the latest to be linked is some bastard hedge fund zombie called Hauptman who owns something called "Chicago" Fire I think you'r wrong lad there is only one Great Chicago Fire! Check out: http://totallyfuzzy.blogspot.co.uk/2012/04/waco-brothers-paul-burch-great-chicago.html And then rock around the room to the title track. 'kin takeover my rect - Ken bates Lives! Long Live Ken Bates! Betty ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org PETE CASS (1962 - 2011) Rest In Peace Mate
[LU] CLUB STATEMENT
A CLUB STATEMENT 29 May 2012 The club have issued the following statement... Further to media reports on Tuesday morning, the club can confirm that talks are taking place regarding investment for the long-term future. The club has always publicly stated that it would welcome potential investment, but has maintained a belief whereby the quality of the investor is the most important factor in terms of the long-term development of Leeds United. No further comment will be made at this stage. ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org PETE CASS (1962 - 2011) Rest In Peace Mate
[LU] Takeover Statement: Trust update
Takeover Statement: Trust update DateMonday, May 28, 2012 at 10:38PM In response to the questions that have come our way in increasing numbers over the last few days, Leeds United Supporters' Trust can confirm that we are aware of firm interest from a number of parties looking to buy Leeds United. In common with Phil Hay of the Yorkshire Evening Post's comments on Twitter, we understand that Leeds United are in talks with at least two separate groups. We also understand there is one firm bid on the table at present. In February we responded to Ken Bates' suggestion that we "put our money where our mouth is," by asking any potential investors, who shared the aims and ambitions of our members and of our Vision Statement, to contact the Trust with a view to working together to take Mr Bates up on his offer. We developed a presentation so interested parties could see how working with L.U.S.T. could help them, and have been in contact with a number of people to explore ways of bringing about change for the better at Elland Road. As part of this ongoing work, we have spoken to two groups who are interested in buying Leeds United. At this stage it is not possible for us to go into details about our conversations with these groups, as with a firm offer on the table we would not want to jeopardise any current negotiations. Leeds United Supporters' Trust would welcome any move that helped the club to fulfil the aims of our Vision Statement, and our members increasingly tell us that they feel a change of ownership would be the best route towards positive change at Leeds United. On Friday we invited our members and Leeds fans everywhere to let us know their thoughts about the summer so far, and we received hundreds of emails in response. The clear and resounding message from our members was that they have completely lost faith in the current Leeds United board's ability to deliver a successful football club. Following the failure to meet Neil Warnock's target of signing a new group of players before his holiday deadline, and Robert Snodgrass' comments about past promises not being met; and after last season which saw players sold, failure on the pitch, and the season ticket income used to finance corporate facilities rather than new players; our members firmly believe that new owners and a new board are required at Leeds United to match the ambition of the fans, the players and the manager. We are sure that the news of discussions around the sale of the club will be warmly welcomed by our members, and make disaffected supporters feel more optimistic about the future. L.U.S.T. would like to stress to all of the parties interested in buying Leeds United that building a good relationship with the supporters must be one of their first priorities. As the representatives of a group of more than 5,000 Leeds fans, and as a Supporters' Trust affiliated with Supporters Direct, we we will always welcome conversation with any potential new owner about how we can work together to achieve the aims of our Vision Statement. We would also encourage L.U.S.T. members to keep sending their views to us, either by email to chair...@lufctrust.org, or via our blog, Facebook, or Twitter. L.U.S.T. is here to represent the views of Leeds fans, and we want to hear your thoughts and opinions on the news of takeover discussions at Elland Road. If you’re not yet a member, you can join more than 5,000 other Leeds fans and have their voice heard as members of the Leeds United Supporters’ Trust by filling in the form at www.lufctrust.org. Membership is free. Keep checking for updates on www.lufctrust.org, and our Facebook and Twitter pages. ---ENDS--- ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org PETE CASS (1962 - 2011) Rest In Peace Mate
[LU] L.U.S.T.: Your Thoughts On The Summer So Far
For info Original Message Subject:L.U.S.T.: Your Thoughts On The Summer So Far Date: Fri, 25 May 2012 12:20:09 +0100 From: Chairman To: j...@boocock.net L.U.S.T. Your thoughts on the Summer so far <#> With our season long since finished and May nearly over, we'd like to know how Leeds supporters are feeling about the summer. Neil Warnock’s arrival brought increased optimism, and even though the last few games of the season didn’t see much joy on the pitch, Warnock’s talk about shaking up his squad for a promotion push kept fans feeling hopeful. The signing of Jason Pearce was a good start towards an improved defence next season, and more players were said to be following as Warnock planned to get his new side together before taking his summer break. Those players haven’t arrived, though, and a deal to sign Joel Ward looks set to fall through. Warnock’s comments this week suggested we won’t be seeing any new faces until after his holiday - and that the ones we might see won’t cost very much. Meanwhile, McCormack and White seem set to turn down new contract offers and head out of the door, while Snodgrass has been outspoken about wanting to see the club make some ambitious signings before he decides whether to stay. We’d like to know how Leeds fans are feeling about all this now the summer is truly underway. Leeds United Supporters’ Trust is directed by its members, and we’re interested in your views on the current situation. Are you still optimistic? Do you think Warnock can get the players he needs for promotion? Are you looking forward to seeing Leeds challenging next season, or worried we’ll be also rans? Should Leeds splash the cash on key new players, or should we bide our time to make sure we get quality? Do you agree with Snodgrass about the need for ambitious signings? Are you concerned about the reported lack of cash to pay for Joel Ward? Would you like to see the club meet the demands of Snodgrass, Clayton, McCormack and White, or would you be happy to see them leave? Do you think Leeds have learned from last season, or are we set for another disappointing year? Please let us know what you think about how things are going for Leeds United, and remember: if you’re a member of the Supporters’ Trust, then your views will shape what we do. We’re here to pursue the issues you feel are important, so please feel free to email your thoughts tochair...@lufctrust.org or comment on our blog, Facebook or Twitter accounts. If you’re not yet a member, you can join more than 5,000 other Leeds fans and have their voice heard as members of the Leeds United Supporters’ Trust by filling in the form at www.lufctrust.org. Membership is free. Keep checking for updates on www.lufctrust.org and our *Facebook* http://www.facebook.com/lufctrust> and *Twitter* http://www.twitter.com/lufctrust> pages. The Leeds United Supporters' Trust The Co-operative Travel, 57 Street Lane, Roundhay, Leeds, LS8 1AP General Enquiries: ad...@lufctrust.org Membership Enquiries: members...@lufctrust.org Website: www.lufctrust.org ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org PETE CASS (1962 - 2011) Rest In Peace Mate
Re: [LU] for fuck sake stop moaning.....
On 25/05/2012 16:13, Richard Naef wrote: I am sick and tired of the continual whinging on the list about Ken Bates, not only did he save the club from evil creditors like the United Fisheries and the St John so called "Ambulance", he has built some really nice executive boxes AND allowed us to pay for our own Statue of the Don. Now in yet another wonderful example of the Monaco Marvels' Largesse he has arranged for Half price entry in Flamingo Land - eat you heart out Abramovitch and Al-Mubarak! Hear Hear, Ken Bates has done more for Leeds United than any other person in the known universe, I want to have his babies. He is the Saviour Of Leeds United and we should all start recognising that. Seven glorious years (and the furry faced chap is still breathing the good fresh air of financial probity) Hurrah for longevity, Hurrah for Financial Prudence and Hurrah for those glasses that turn black in sunlight what Ken and loads of other old folk wear when they are blinded by the light! (Cont'd on page 94 of Saga Magazine) Betty PS Flamingoland is a load of crap ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org PETE CASS (1962 - 2011) Rest In Peace Mate
[LU] Literary News
Publication of Alex Ferguson's new book about season 2011-2012 delayed as he can't come up with a title. Coat already on ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org PETE CASS (1962 - 2011) Rest In Peace Mate
Re: [LU] Eleven told they can go
On 02/05/2012 19:16, seanscr...@aol.com wrote: Do you think we're just keeping him because we have to now as he's crocked Bromby'll be covered by the man from the Pru so Bates will be happy if he stays crocked until the end of whatever flimsy contract he signed when he first popped in for tea and biccies at SOTG betty ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org PETE CASS (1962 - 2011) Rest In Peace Mate
Re: [LU] Leedslist Digest, Vol 23, Issue 5
Original Message Subject:RE: Leedslist Digest, Vol 23, Issue 5 Date: Wed, 2 May 2012 18:30:42 + From: Ross Thornton To: Rumour has it and apparently warnock has mentioned it somehwere, although I cannot find it, that Clayton wants 15k a week new contract so they have put him on transfer list. To be honest I am not that fussed he had a couple of cracking games alongside howson at the start of the season otherwise the best you can sy about him is hes scored a few long shots and occasionally looks to have good feet. That's not enough for a starting centre mid for me. We need some centre mids that will cover ground are athletes and have some physical presence in order to impose on a game. Brown is the only shock for me i'd have let him go too, although the contract to him is on reduced terms not improved and only for a year. Cheers Ross ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org PETE CASS (1962 - 2011) Rest In Peace Mate
Re: [LU] So, no new signings then?
On 26/04/2012 10:14, Tim Leslie wrote: If anyone can provide an English translation to this I'd appreciate it!;-) She may have been a Quinie fae Rhynie in which case duck Macro Bert ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org PETE CASS (1962 - 2011) Rest In Peace Mate
Re: [LU] MS
On 24/04/2012 17:37, Dr Michael Benjamin wrote: I am not fan of Mel Levi but Bates is behaving like a deranged moron in the courts: http://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/news/latest-news/top-stories/melvyn-levi-v-ken-bates-leeds-united-chairman-accused-of-pursuing-a-vendetta-latest-1-4477039 At one stage the judge asked Mr Bates to calm down and urged not to use “inflammatory” language when talking about Mr Levi. Monkeys in a sack eh? They all make me sick. No wonder we can't beat the skin off a rice pudding.. Betty ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org PETE CASS (1962 - 2011) Rest In Peace Mate
Re: [LU] non LU FR election results
On 23/04/2012 16:33, Leeds List wrote: I thought Burkhas came from Nepal.. Sent from my iPhone I take it you had your coat slung casually over your shoulders as you departed Sarge ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org PETE CASS (1962 - 2011) Rest In Peace Mate
[LU] something to brighten up your Sunday
http://www.britishpathe.com/video/semi-final-leeds-beat-manchester-united/query/leeds ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org PETE CASS (1962 - 2011) Rest In Peace Mate
Re: [LU] Bye Bye Bert
On 20/04/2012 14:07, Richard Naef wrote: WE ARE NORMAL AND WE DIG BERT WEEDON It looks like a rabbit ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org PETE CASS (1962 - 2011) Rest In Peace Mate
Re: [LU] NONLU I'm bored, so howabout vinyl thread?
On 19/04/2012 09:18, Kneale, Andy wrote: Was Paul Kossoff playing at that one, John? Andy Yes Andy, he played on some of the numbers but his playing was atrocious - he was still er, "recuperating". The deluxe edition of the CD includes Koss's contributions, which may have been "updated". I'm trying to remember who the engineer was - he was famous! Betty ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org PETE CASS (1962 - 2011) Rest In Peace Mate
Re: [LU] LU : Left backs
On 18/04/2012 19:52, Neil Hackett wrote: I always thought it was the most difficult position to fill at any level, and we keep burning through them. So who have been our best left backs through the mists of time? ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org PETE CASS (1962 - 2011) Rest In Peace Mate
Re: [LU] NONLU I'm bored, so howabout vinyl thread?
First single was Satisfaction by Otis Redding, me and our Steve played it to death. http://youtu.be/hQszoQJT0Tc First LP was Safe as Milk, The Captain! but after that everything went haywaire as witnessed by my heaving loft with it's Vallance and Davidson sized collection of LPs. http://youtu.be/GrFdb0FcnhE First Gig was in April 67 with The Walker Brothers, Englebert Humperdink, Cat Stevens, Jimi Hendrix and the back up bands for the headliners. It was at the Odeon on a Sunday afternoon. http://youtu.be/0tUdUVmnWNc Best Gig has to be The 'Oooo at Leeds Uni in early 1970, I love the Deluxe CD reissue of this gig. It catches Magic Bus exactly as I remember it. Special http://youtu.be/fay1uk7wpnQ Wierdest gig must be watching the recording of John Martyn "Live At Leeds" from the mobile sound truck which was parked outside the Riley Smith Hall at Leeds Uni. Only to find out later that the released version was mainly recorded in London, now rectified with the 2010 release which includes the complete Leeds gig (Thanks McGeoch ye tosspot) No film of the Leeds gig so enjoy this: http://youtu.be/lusPaLec9TE I have seen hundreds of gigs over the years and I have a massive music collection but nothing pleases me more than finding something new or something I missed years ago. I'm 58 now but I still get excited when I hear that WEM hum just before someone plugs in. Just this week I came across Simone Felice, he's touring as we speak but check out this free download of a track off his new eponymous album: http://soundcloud.com/tomreveal/simone-felice-new-york-times-1 My spewing North over twenty years ago also brought me into contact with a pile of rather fabulous Scottish musicians. If you have never heard Michael Marra or the more recent Manran then do so. Here's a wee bitty Michael: http://youtu.be/yOwH9hmjNrM and some Manran: http://youtu.be/Yg9xA855s_A I often shove stuff up I've been to see on Youtube these days cos I can it's usually hiding at: http://www.youtube.com/user/barbaraville Right that's enough here come the Archers! Betty Speaking of Television my favourites recently have been the two Danish items on BBC4, The Killing and Borgen. Finally something other than cheese that i can enjoy from Denmark! ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org PETE CASS (1962 - 2011) Rest In Peace Mate
[LU] FT Blackpool 1-0 Leeds
There's something stinking rotten in LS11 0ES and it ain't Aidie Turford's delivery trainers ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org PETE CASS (1962 - 2011) Rest In Peace Mate
[LU] Well that's alright then
READING ARE PROMOTED TO THE PREMIER LEAGUE. ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org PETE CASS (1962 - 2011) Rest In Peace Mate
Re: [LU] Pity
On 17/04/2012 19:52, Mark Stephenson wrote: They could have all played for Ajax. you'd need a lot of vim to do that ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org PETE CASS (1962 - 2011) Rest In Peace Mate
Re: [LU] Pity
On 17/04/2012 12:06, Sarge wrote: Robert Van Persil Excellent the first in a long line of detergent based names for footballers. Please now use: Sidney Surf Teddy Tide Olivier Omo Ngoxen Oxydol Alfredo Ariel Bert Bold Fabio Fairynonbio Ennio Ecover and of course Trevor Tescosquitecheapbutquitegoodownbrand ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org PETE CASS (1962 - 2011) Rest In Peace Mate
Re: [LU] Warnock
On 13/04/2012 14:28, Nicholas Armit wrote: some interesting stuff...did he bring his family with him? "I wanted to retire at 55. Now at 61 with two young kids, I want to spend a bit of time with them. And I hope it's with QPR" as opposed to with a septugenarian gitbag with a load of candyfloss on his chin. ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org PETE CASS (1962 - 2011) Rest In Peace Mate
[LU] Discussion Point
The failure to qualify for the CL in 2000-2001 was because of a poor autumn and winter; how much of that was ascribed to playing CL matches as well as league matches, and how much was the distraction of the trial? ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org PETE CASS (1962 - 2011) Rest In Peace Mate
Re: [LU] Be aware of what you wish for
On 09/04/2012 17:43, Nigel Barber wrote: Bates is the problem Not at all, he is the Saviour of Leeds United! Someone tell me when he's gone Betty ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org PETE CASS (1962 - 2011) Rest In Peace Mate
Re: [LU] Cheeky buggers!
On 07/04/2012 13:33, Simon Hart wrote: youtu.be/te4ZoqdLtio I was so pissed off by this, how dare they? and to pretend it can use a creative commons licence. I wonder what Les Reed and Barry Mason think of that. Baseball my arse! Grrr ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org PETE CASS (1962 - 2011) Rest In Peace Mate
Re: [LU] Accounts
On 05/04/2012 17:00, Peter Hudson wrote: I was talking to an Arsenal-supporting friend about Bates and he sent me the following, which I thought summed it up pretty well: all very clearly documented in Tom Bower's book Broken dreams, definately a must read for any football fan. Especially the bit on Risible Betty ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org PETE CASS (1962 - 2011) Rest In Peace Mate
Re: [LU] MOALM the Villa debacle
On 05/04/2012 15:31, Ted wrote: And wasn't that the same building that used to be "Watson& Cairn's" motorbike shop? certainly was Ted! ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org PETE CASS (1962 - 2011) Rest In Peace Mate
Re: [LU] MOALM the Villa debacle
On 05/04/2012 13:11, Ted wrote: Was it "Queens Court"? No it was The Hogs Head ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org PETE CASS (1962 - 2011) Rest In Peace Mate
Re: [LU] Accounts
On 04/04/2012 15:21, Dr. Michael Benjamin. wrote: More very fishy business ? http://www.thesquareball.net/leeds-united/2012/04/04/after-the-accounts-the-fog-in-lufcs-finances/ Mike all this tells us is that Bates has now contradicted himself, he is now gambling with money he hasn't got, money from the future, he is as tupid as the very people he has derided for doing the self same thing! Someone tell me when he's gone. Betty ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org PETE CASS (1962 - 2011) Rest In Peace Mate
[LU] April
Don't know how many of you saw this before lunchtime yesterday :-) http://www.sourcewire.com/releases/rel_display.php?relid=71130 ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org PETE CASS (1962 - 2011) Rest In Peace Mate
Re: [LU] its Political correctness gone MAD...
On 31/03/2012 08:47, Dr Michael Benjamin wrote: PS We get slammed today again. That'll be another win for Colin then :-) ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org PETE CASS (1962 - 2011) Rest In Peace Mate
[LU] here's one for listers in er, Chicago (you know who you are!)
http://soundcloud.com/bloodshot-records/great-chicago-fire-by-waco#new-timed-comment-at-203078 ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org PETE CASS (1962 - 2011) Rest In Peace Mate
Re: [LU] 1950???
On 29/03/2012 11:28, Leeds List wrote: and of course Caddy going AWOL Valencia? Caddy going awol could have been anywhere on Earth mate ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org PETE CASS (1962 - 2011) Rest In Peace Mate
Re: [LU] Fwd: 1950???
On 29/03/2012 11:12, Chris Briggs wrote: I thought the landlord was a Leeds fan. Keith was a City Fan ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org PETE CASS (1962 - 2011) Rest In Peace Mate
Re: [LU] Fwd: That's FrankenSTEEN!
On 28/03/2012 19:37, Jeremy Adams wrote: Or any mention of the Totty Twins Dave Dowden (Totty Twin Number 1) is here on the list and an ever present at ER most of the time :-) Chris Fitz (Totty Twin Number 2) lives in Swinnow. Nuff said. Bert ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org PETE CASS (1962 - 2011) Rest In Peace Mate
[LU] Pre worldnet warmup Tournament up in London July 8th Enfield.
So are we going to get a Lards team up for this? We need to have a warm up if we are going to worldnet Vets anyway (I've entered a team but don't even know if we have any players)now read on: Supporters Direct have asked us if we would like to stage a mini IFA tournament as part of their annual conference which is at Enfield Town FC on Sunday the 8th July this year. It would be at Enfield Town FC on the two full size pitches adjacent to the Ground and there would be no cost to ourselves. Our plan is to start at 10 am and finish by about two thirty pm - the format would be two groups of four and a final which saw the two group winners playing off against each other for the Winner of the Tournament. This would be an ideal chance for teams to have a run through in real IFA conditions before WorldNET. Any IFA team who wishes to may enter it will be on a first come first served basis but only ask for a place if you are definately able to take part please. Can interested parties contact me as soon as possible please and preferably before next Thursday. Betty ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org PETE CASS (1962 - 2011) Rest In Peace Mate
Re: [LU] list down?
On 28/03/2012 16:56, Kneale, Andy wrote: Remember us mocking the Charlton team's accents by singing the Eastenders theme tune, Betty? They deserved it, can you remember Wiggy screaming "Janine Leave it!"? ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org PETE CASS (1962 - 2011) Rest In Peace Mate
Re: [LU] MOALM the Villa debacle
On 28/03/2012 16:45, John Lee wrote: the Noggie who was there with his geisha-dressed Japanese missus Odvar? ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org PETE CASS (1962 - 2011) Rest In Peace Mate
Re: [LU] 1950???
On 28/03/2012 14:09, Andrew Ewart wrote: Betty disappearing and later returning to the Argie bar with a Leeds shirt for the owner.. It was my daughter, Alice's.. ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org PETE CASS (1962 - 2011) Rest In Peace Mate
Re: [LU] a lot of history here
On 28/03/2012 14:27, N If wrote: aaah memories posting of the week (wipes tear from eye) ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org PETE CASS (1962 - 2011) Rest In Peace Mate
Re: [LU] MOALM the Villa debacle
On 28/03/2012 14:13, Nicholas Armit wrote: Surely the Listmeister can get a list of when people joined? I think this would require our man in Eire to send me a disk of the list archives for a wee trawl, James are you out there? Betty ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org PETE CASS (1962 - 2011) Rest In Peace Mate
[LU] MOALM the Villa debacle
On 28/03/2012 06:53, Graham White wrote: surprised no one has mentioned TMOALM yet Who besides, me, our Dave, Rog, John Lee and Graham was at the MOALM and is still on the list? Betty ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org PETE CASS (1962 - 2011) Rest In Peace Mate
Re: [LU] list down?
On 27/03/2012 15:23, Jeremy Adams wrote: How many on this list now anyway? 224 the lowest its ever been in the last ten years. However I know quite a few people read the archive thing at: http://www.mail-archive.com/leedslist@gn.apc.org/info.html cheers betty listing since 1995 I think ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org PETE CASS (1962 - 2011) Rest In Peace Mate
Re: [LU] NON LU: accountant service
On 25/03/2012 18:04, Eric B wrote: I need someone that deals with complex(?) shit like non-domiciles etc. talk to Bates? ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org PETE CASS (1962 - 2011) Rest In Peace Mate
[LU] Millwall Nil LUFC 1
Ross McCormack. Lonergan saved a penalty 3 points off playoffs Enjoy the weekend people! ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org PETE CASS (1962 - 2011) Rest In Peace Mate
Re: [LU] Leedslist uns*bscribe notification
On 22/03/2012 22:23, Damian Walsh wrote: i find it amazing that its the other person chucked off the list Damian, he wasn't chucked off the list, he unsubscribed himself. I was just forwarding the evidence before anyone jumped in and blamed me for chucking him off the list. (Now why would I think anyone would do that?) I had an in box full of complaints about Mark but did nothing as I actually agree with you. The crunch for me came when I started seeing long standing listers unsubscribing becuase they had had enough of seeing the list desecend into, as one person described to me: "playground squabbles". I put a shot across Mark's bows and he ran away rather than apologise. Everytime someone subscribes to the list I get an email and feel good about it. Everytime someone unsubscribes I get pissed off, especially when I know that it's because of someone else's thoughtlessness. I (probably like the blessed St Gav) always remember the wise words of Tingha and Tucker: "Bear in Mind To Be Good and Kind". Perhaps it's time for Aunty Jean to take over from Aunty Betty. The list has lost some of its great contributors in recent times and the protaganists are always wearing the same number shirt. You know who you are. Be it on your own conscience if you end up in a broom cupboard arguing with yourself as the list finally lays its head in the graveyard of cyberspace oblivion. Well mannered, well thought out, witty contributions are always welcome, even contributions now and then about that Leeds United. The other sort of stuff, the nasty stuff, is about as much use as a man's tits. Woomerang...boomerang... Betty (never knowingly canonised) ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org PETE CASS (1962 - 2011) Rest In Peace Mate
[LU] Leedslist unsubscribe notification
For information. Original Message Subject: Leedslist unsubscribe notification Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2012 20:09:33 + From: mailman-boun...@gn.apc.org To: leedslist-ow...@gn.apc.org mark.humphr...@blueyonder.co.uk has been removed from Leedslist. ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org PETE CASS (1962 - 2011) Rest In Peace Mate
Re: [LU] RIch W has an adherent re Pugh
Twat of the week award goes to mark Humphries as another three people un subscribe from the list and tell me that its because some people don't know when to keep their unrequired comments to themselves. When we get down to one lister, I'll let you know Mark. As Dunderhead used to say "somedays its not worth chewing through the straps" Betty ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org PETE CASS (1962 - 2011) Rest In Peace Mate
Re: [LU] Warnock
On 22/03/2012 08:08, Leeds List wrote: Bring on The Gimp ! Made me smile, just the thought of Colin in his rubber gear at the side of the pitch struggling to apply his lip salve as Susannah cracks the whip. Apparently people are willing to pay mor than £30 a pop for a good S&M show, wonder why the Master hasn't thought of that before? At least it wouldn't be the crowd enduring the pain for once. A half decent flash movie from Stotty would sort it for our overseas listeners Betty ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org PETE CASS (1962 - 2011) Rest In Peace Mate
Re: [LU] Forest./ ticket prices
On 20/03/2012 16:59, DAVID DOWDEN wrote: Bradford recently had 17,000 attendance , mind you it was only a quid per seat. over priced. ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org PETE CASS (1962 - 2011) Rest In Peace Mate
Re: [LU] stream al jazzeera
On 17/03/2012 15:45, Dr. Michael Benjamin. wrote: How's it going this half? absolutely fascinating match , Leeds defence invigorated and holding up well against a well organised Hammers attck but we can't seem to finish off our own. We did score at the end of the hal;f but it wasn't to be because of a foul. http://www.castup.tv/channel.php?u=streamhd1zx3 Betty ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org PETE CASS (1962 - 2011) Rest In Peace Mate
Re: [LU] Spares
On 12/03/2012 18:01, Richard Naef wrote: any spares for Millwall? I've got two unused mini oil filters - 1275 A series engine ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org PETE CASS (1962 - 2011) Rest In Peace Mate
Re: [LU] Football authorities response to the Government (Select Committee)
Supporters Direct responds to Football Authorities proposals on governance reform: http://supporters-direct.coop/news/item.asp?n=14832&cat=sd_eng The Premier League's thingy is here: http://www.premierleague.com/content/dam/premierleague/site-content/News/publications/other/core-group-29-02-12.pdf ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org PETE CASS (1962 - 2011) Rest In Peace Mate
Re: [LU] @shitmydadsays, 3/7/12 4:54 PM
On 08/03/2012 00:24, Simon Hart wrote: Justin (@shitmydadsays) 3/7/12 4:54 PM "Your favorite team doesn't give a fuck about you." A short story about my dad's thoughts on sports. grantland.com/story/_/id/765… Someone point the LUST guys at this. apart from the line "They just rub up against whoever has the most money" you've lost me here Si betty ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org PETE CASS (1962 - 2011) Rest In Peace Mate
Re: [LU] Same old same
On 06/03/2012 21:39, Dr. Michael Benjamin. wrote: Explain. Women for the team Big football school at Flamingoland for budding Leeds United players being organised by the Academy for both boys and girls "Want to play for Leeds United? Are you the star of tomorrow?" etc... Sounds like a money making scam to me. Betty (Never knowingly under cynical in these "mad March days" (c) John Masefield) ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org PETE CASS (1962 - 2011) Rest In Peace Mate
Re: [LU] Same old same
On 06/03/2012 21:19, Wayne wrote: The confidence i had after the Southampton game is slowly draining away, listening to another lacklustre performance Eight minutes to go and still nil nil, the breaks are there but where's the finish? Sounds like Lonergan is holding them off. Even Lord Eddie is bemused. Good news is that Bates has agreed unequivocally to sign women to the team if Yorkshire Radio ads are to be believed. Ken Bates saviour of Leeds United. Betty ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org PETE CASS (1962 - 2011) Rest In Peace Mate
Re: [LU] LU - Questions
On 04/03/2012 09:40, Michael ALCOCK wrote: It's not just the state of the club that's putting people off, but in the current climate, it's certainly helping to keep people away. Good point well put Michael. But add to this the unseemly way in which Bates conducts himself (and was always known to conduct himself) and then it is easy to see why so many of us, who have been as stalwart a supporter as the next person, just refuse point blank to fund this bizarre man's activities. My reasons go much deeper than just my unstinting support for "the club" - thanks for the definitions Rick, I thought they were useful. As I said at the start of his tenure, it would have been better if Bates had spent his time taking his lovely wife to bingo and leaving Leeds United alone. There was another offer on the table when he took over but for whatever reason Krasner and his colleagues decided to install Bates. Whatever Bates and his apologists may say about there being no other offer on the table I disagree. Norman Stubbs had all the correct funding and ideas in place following extensive and expensive due diligence. Due diligence which I had explained to me extensively in the Summer before Bates did take over by a respected Judge, who is also a Leeds fan. The key problems were the tax man and the ground followed closely by the demands being made by the consortium. (For instance one member of the consortium, Helm, apparently wanted to remain a director). Dave Nattan and I spoke on the eve of the takeover as I was heading by train to Leeds to sit in on the final hours of the signing off. He was the person who told me Bates was taking over and like many others I couldn't believe it. Norman Stubbs and his team were sat waiting in their Lawyer's office all ready to take over when Bates appeared. The wrangling went on late into the day and in the end the Stubbs team just went home. Simon Morris had been quite laid back about the Stubbs deal and was not happy about Bates but in the end went with his pals. (Morris had met with Stubbs and co that day) Krasner's mob must have seen more advantage in the Bates deal which looked to be, in essence, to pay the taxman off asap. I had concrete assurances from the Stubbs group that they would investigate ways to involve fans in a meaningful way with the club, something I still feel is the key to getting out of this mess but which I still hasn't been explored properly by either the fans or the club or any potential buyer. Even Redbus during the administration wanted to check this out as a possibility. Norman's support was made up of a number of well heeled and financially liquid businessmen, all of whom were Leeds supporters and all of whom understood the potential risks. After Bates took over Norman rang me, he said that there was nothing much more to be done. I asked him if he had any options left and he replied "Nope, its on to the next project". In later months he told me that he had had approaches from Bates about investing in the club, Bates however would not talk unless Norman put several millions up front. The immediate wrangling that took place post the Krasner period show just how useless as owners they were so I suppose whatever the outcome we were going to end up here. Until a proper management is put in place, one that really understands Leeds United as a club and one who understands that we are in 2012 and not 1812 we will stay in the doldrums for a very long time yet. Time for I'm Sorry I Haven't a Clue methinks... Betty ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org PETE CASS (1962 - 2011) Rest In Peace Mate
Re: [LU] HT 0 - 1
On 03/03/2012 19:25, Jim Moran wrote: Shame I won't be going to watch it, but I'm being a stubborn twat and not giving Bates another penny. another supporter sees the light - you should have jouined me 7 years ago Jim lad ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org PETE CASS (1962 - 2011) Rest In Peace Mate
Re: [LU] L.U.S.T: An Open Letter To Neil Warnock
On 23/02/2012 20:37, Dr. Michael Benjamin. wrote: Why Betty? I'm just contrary :-) ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org PETE CASS (1962 - 2011) Rest In Peace Mate
Re: [LU] L.U.S.T: An Open Letter To Neil Warnock
On 23/02/2012 17:01, Matt Anderson wrote: Basic points welcome neil, just because you are here things aren't fixed but we aren't going to protest yet. Good luck. That's all it needed I think "Warnock Out!" would suffice Betty ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org PETE CASS (1962 - 2011) Rest In Peace Mate
