Re: [LU] Brentford

[John Boocock]

More likely Duncan Ferguson given the clowns in charge at Toffeeland. :-)

On 24 January 2023 19:59:57 GMT, Scott1cairns1  wrote:

>MB.  TO EVERTON !!!
>
>Best regards,Scott. 
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Re: [LU] Brentford

[Scott1cairns1]

MB.  TO EVERTON !!!

Best regards,Scott. 

> On 24 Jan 2023, at 19:24, Richard Walker via Leedslist  
> wrote:
> 
> Ok that probably explains why he didn’t start but surely he could have 
> managed 10 mins? If not, why even on the bench ?
> 
> 
> Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone
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> 
> 
> 2023 at 20:31:00 GMT, nattan--- via Leedslist  wrote:  
> 
> A mainly good performance got us a deserved point, whether it is 2 dropped or 
> 1 gained I suppose time will tell, but this was a game we could and should 
> have won.
> The team was as expected other than the fact that our new left back, Wober 
> came in at centre half in place of the injured Cooper rather than instead of 
> Struik who kept his place.  It did work though as he looked assured 
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Re: [LU] Brentford

[Richard Walker via Leedslist]

Ok that probably explains why he didn’t start but surely he could have managed 
10 mins? If not, why even on the bench ?


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2023 at 20:31:00 GMT, nattan--- via Leedslist  wrote:  
 
 A mainly good performance got us a deserved point, whether it is 2 dropped or 
1 gained I suppose time will tell, but this was a game we could and should have 
won.
The team was as expected other than the fact that our new left back, Wober came 
in at centre half in place of the injured Cooper rather than instead of Struik 
who kept his place.  It did work though as he looked assured 
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Re: [LU] Brentford

[Richard Naef]

The bundesleague had a break until 20th Jan, so he won't have played a 
competitive match for 2 months+ 

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 Not sure whether this was a good point or two points lost. It looked to me 
that Brentford came with a not to lose attitude especially in the 2nd half so 
maybe we should have put our subs on earlier and really gone for it. The 
discussion pre-match was whether Rutter would go straight in. A record £36 
million pound signing surely had to figure at some point but instead he sat 
rooted to the bench for most of the afternoon. I find it hard to comprehend why 
he wasn't at very least given 15 minutes. It would have sparked the crowd and 
you just never know ? Overall though, I thought this was a better performance 
particularly at the back where Wober looks very solid. I hope Marsch doesn't 
move him to left back because it's about time we had a central defender who 
doesn't fuck up every other match. The tactics continue to mystify though. We 
are so narrow that you need someone to take the ball and weave their way 
through 3 or 4 defenders to create a chance. It's not going to happen so we 
were restricted to long range efforts and one great chance for Willy. Marsch 
thought Aaronson and his best match ? Really ? Yes the lad is trying and you 
can really see that but the more he tries the more desperate he looks and more 
and more things just don't come off for him. Everyone seems to be getting on 
his back whereas Roca's non-performances seem to be largely going unecrognised 
although I've noticed more and more people commenting about his role in the 
team. He was brough to be the creative one in midfield but he tried 2 long 
passes yesterday and both were straight to an opposition player. To be fair, he 
did lots of work and some nice bits and pieces but he normally just passes the 
ball bak or prods it forward 5 years to Gnonto or Harrison. I think we need 
better than Roca in this position. With 10 mins to go, Marsh takes Roca off and 
puts on Greenwood because he is better at delivering the ball from set pieces ? 
But Roca takes corners and has a nice left foot ? The big question now is how 
does Marsch accomodate Rodrigo / Bamford / Rutter / Summerville / Sinistera / 
Harrison / Gnonto / Geldhardt (going apparently) ? Nice problem to have but 
someone is not going to be happy. For me, as good as Rodrigo has been playing, 
he's not a number 9 and doesn't hold the line well. Bamford does that so much 
better. Also Rutter says he wants to play down the middle. Hopefully we'll get 
a look at him against Accrington Stanley on Saturday. Welcome to England 
Georginio !
Going to be a fascinating Feb.
Scores:
Meslier - 6. A few punches and one dodgy moment but generally had nothing to do 
Ayling - 7. I thought he had a good game. Feel much better with Ayling at RB 
than Rasmus Struijk - 6. Did ok, not really troubled. Tried to get forward 2nd 
half in his own limited way. Wober - 9. Confident at the back with some great 
challenges Koch - 8. Possibly his best game this season. Adams - 8. All round, 
good performance Roca - 6. Worked hard with some decent bits of link up play 
Harrison - 7. Did ok but certainly doesn't have the same understanding with 
Willy as Summerville does Rodrigo - 7. Worked hard and carved out a couple of 
half chances Gnonto - 6. Struggled as Brentford always had 2 or 3 men on him 
Aaronson - 5. Struggled to make an impact
Subs:
Bamford - 7. Looked lively Greenwood - not on long enough 

Marsch - needed subs on earlier and give Rutter 10-15 mins 
 

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 A mainly good performance got us a deserved point, whether it is 2 dropped or 
1 gained I suppose time will tell, but this was a game we could and should have 
won.
The team was as expected other than the fact that our new left back, Wober came 
in at centre half in place of the injured Cooper rather than instead of Struik 
who kept his place.  It did work though as he looked assured 
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Re: [LU] Brentford

[John Boocock]

Best news of the day. But yes it would have been nice to see his face on the 
kast day of the season..

On 23 January 2023 15:39:15 GMT, Richard Walker via Leedslist 
 wrote:

> and Fat Frank has gone. 
>Shame cos I would have loved to see him taking them down. 
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Re: [LU] Brentford

[Richard Walker via Leedslist]

 and Fat Frank has gone. 

Shame cos I would have loved to see him taking them down. 
On Monday, 23 January 2023 at 15:38:35 GMT, Richard Walker 
 wrote:  
 
  Not sure whether this was a good point or two points lost. It looked to me 
that Brentford came with a not to lose attitude especially in the 2nd half so 
maybe we should have put our subs on earlier and really gone for it. 


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Re: [LU] Brentford

[Richard Walker via Leedslist]

 Not sure whether this was a good point or two points lost. It looked to me 
that Brentford came with a not to lose attitude especially in the 2nd half so 
maybe we should have put our subs on earlier and really gone for it. 
The discussion pre-match was whether Rutter would go straight in. A record £36 
million pound signing surely had to figure at some point but instead he sat 
rooted to the bench for most of the afternoon. I find it hard to comprehend why 
he wasn't at very least given 15 minutes. It would have sparked the crowd and 
you just never know ? 
Overall though, I thought this was a better performance particularly at the 
back where Wober looks very solid. I hope Marsch doesn't move him to left back 
because it's about time we had a central defender who doesn't fuck up every 
other match. 
The tactics continue to mystify though. We are so narrow that you need someone 
to take the ball and weave their way through 3 or 4 defenders to create a 
chance. It's not going to happen so we were restricted to long range efforts 
and one great chance for Willy. 
Marsch thought Aaronson and his best match ? Really ? Yes the lad is trying and 
you can really see that but the more he tries the more desperate he looks and 
more and more things just don't come off for him. Everyone seems to be getting 
on his back whereas Roca's non-performances seem to be largely going 
unecrognised although I've noticed more and more people commenting about his 
role in the team. He was brough to be the creative one in midfield but he tried 
2 long passes yesterday and both were straight to an opposition player. To be 
fair, he did lots of work and some nice bits and pieces but he normally just 
passes the ball bak or prods it forward 5 years to Gnonto or Harrison. I think 
we need better than Roca in this position. With 10 mins to go, Marsh takes Roca 
off and puts on Greenwood because he is better at delivering the ball from set 
pieces ? But Roca takes corners and has a nice left foot ? 
The big question now is how does Marsch accomodate Rodrigo / Bamford / Rutter / 
Summerville / Sinistera / Harrison / Gnonto / Geldhardt (going apparently) ? 
Nice problem to have but someone is not going to be happy. For me, as good as 
Rodrigo has been playing, he's not a number 9 and doesn't hold the line well. 
Bamford does that so much better. Also Rutter says he wants to play down the 
middle. Hopefully we'll get a look at him against Accrington Stanley on 
Saturday. Welcome to England Georginio !
Going to be a fascinating Feb. 
Scores:
Meslier - 6. A few punches and one dodgy moment but generally had nothing to do 
Ayling - 7. I thought he had a good game. Feel much better with Ayling at RB 
than Rasmus 
Struijk - 6. Did ok, not really troubled. Tried to get forward 2nd half in his 
own limited way. 
Wober - 9. Confident at the back with some great challenges 
Koch - 8. Possibly his best game this season. 
Adams - 8. All round, good performance    
Roca - 6. Worked hard with some decent bits of link up play 
Harrison - 7. Did ok but certainly doesn't have the same understanding with 
Willy as Summerville does 
Rodrigo - 7. Worked hard and carved out a couple of half chances 
Gnonto - 6. Struggled as Brentford always had 2 or 3 men on him 
Aaronson - 5. Struggled to make an impact
Subs:
Bamford - 7. Looked lively Greenwood - not on long enough 

Marsch - needed subs on earlier and give Rutter 10-15 mins 
 

On Sunday, 22 January 2023 at 20:31:00 GMT, nattan--- via Leedslist 
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 A mainly good performance got us a deserved point, whether it is 2 dropped or 
1 gained I suppose time will tell, but this was a game we could and should have 
won.
The team was as expected other than the fact that our new left back, Wober came 
in at centre half in place of the injured Cooper rather than instead of Struik 
who kept his place.  It did work though as he looked assured 
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Re: [LU] Brentford-aka Return of the Bam

[MATTHEW GAYNOR via Leedslist]

I think the game probably demonstrated how little we understand what 
Bielsa is doing most of the time

Accepting this is based on twitter reaction and not that in the ground

The team at the start was largely met with approval by the fans - apart 
from griping about Roberts - but most fans happy that players were in 
the right positions.   Except we werent very good for first 15 mins.


Then Cooper gets injured - instead of the obvious replacement with 
Cresswell, Bielsa moves half the team around when Harrison comes on - 
including putting James upfront which no-one really likes.  Fans hate it 
- say Bielsa has lost it.   Except we improve massively and dominate the 
game for the rest of the half


Then Phillips gets injured. We make the most obvious replacement, bring 
Klich on and dropping Forshaw back.  Fans approve. We then fall apart 
for 15 minutes.


Finally Bamford comes on - but not for Roberts or James but for Firpo, 
meaning we now have a defence of Dallas, Llorente and a half-fit Ayling 
against a pacy Brentford attack.   Somehow that works and we are the 
better team towards the end


Matt

-- Original Message --
From: "nattan--- via Leedslist" 
Well another injury time goal, that saved the day and changed the mood. 
You have to give this side credit for going till the last minute but the 
feeling was that it should not have been needed and it was still 2 
points dropped.
There were also the first murmurings of discontent around Bielsa in a 
very subdued crowd for the most part.
We knew Brentford would be the sort of time wasting , play acting, shit 
housing team that ruins the game, as soon as they made us kick towards 
the Revie stand first half ( traitor Pontus)
Despite that we started ok and were  miles the better team first half , 
and well worth the half time lead. Nice to see Roberts get the goal his 
recent efforts have deserved and glad to see him celebrate with the 
crowd with no ear cupping or other sarcastic gestures ( a la Chris wood)
The slight disgruntlement came when Cooper went off injured - send on 
the impressive Cresswell we all thought, but no, after toying with the 
idea of Klich he sent on Harrison and moved players around.  To be fair 
it worked but was an odd choice and brought some questioning of Bielsa

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Re: [LU] Brentford

[Jeremy Adams]

I thought Bamford made a good run to drag a defender with him to create space. 
What happened though was he dragged two defenders with him, one of the 
Brentford defenders got sucked in when he shouldn't have and that left Eddie 
free. Most goals are down to a defensive mistake, I felt Bamford created that 
mistake with his run and Eddie made an intelligent run to capitalize on it.

I'd like to see them both together, Bielsa's plan was to have Roofe and Bamford 
together wasnt it? I think Eddie and Paddie could do a job together.

From: Leedslist  on behalf of seanscribe--- via 
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Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2019 8:59 AM
To: richleed...@yahoo.co.uk ; nat...@sky.com 

Cc: leedslist@gn.apc.org 
Subject: Re: [LU] Brentford

Rich,
I agree with almost everything you wrote. But if you look at the goal again, 
Bamford's not really "marked." He moves into space for Costa to cut the ball 
back to him, but Costa chose the arguably more difficult pass, threading it 
past two retreating defenders to the waiting Nketiah.Bamford's movement made 
one of the defenders check back a half step, which made the difference. Great 
goal, and one that I hope we recreate on a regular basis.

Cheers!
Sean

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From: Richard walker via Leedslist 
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Cc: Leeds List 
Sent: Thu, Aug 22, 2019 2:34 am
Subject: Re: [LU] Brentford

Few thoughts.

Good win against a lively Brentford team who were unlucky not to be 1 up at 
half time due to the woodwork. It was a fast paced, frantic game of low 
quality, especially from us at times. We gave the ball away time after time 
after getting in good positions. Pablo had his worst game for Leeds before 
being dragged off. He hardly contributed and when he did get the ball he 
frequently gave it away. Hopefully he’ll be back on song at the weekend but 
overalll his distribution has to improve.
I think Harrison’s position in the team is questionable with Costa breathing 
down his neck. For me Harrison has seen a lot the ball this season but hasn’t 
really produced. I thought he was poor last night and although it’s always 
easier coming on as a sub Costa has a yard extra of pace and acceleration.

Observation on the goal - as Costa breaks down the wing Bamford moves 
instinctively to the front post where he is marked, Eddie instinctively ghosts 
out to the back post unmarked. Easy pass to Eddie and goal and the very clear 
difference in natural goal poacher v unnatural goal poacher. Is there room for 
2 strikers ? I think so. For me Eddie cannot sit on the bench. He offers us 
something that we currently don’t have.

So good win but that’s the second time at home that we’ve struggled. You could 
say that Forest and Brentford might be play off contenders and they’re good 
wins or you could say that we’re not firing at home yet.

Still top of the league and unbeaten.



> On 22 Aug 2019, at 06:53, "nat...@sky.com"  wrote:
>
> Costa to Nketiah and GOAL Commentators had better get used to saying that as 
> our 2 new players combined again
> Over 35,000 fans ,for a game that would have been lucky to attract 20,000 a 
> few seasons ago,  24 years after Yeboah thunderbolt, saw new boy Eddie tap in 
> from a yard, but his goal was all about anticipation awareness and being 
> right place right time
> This could be the difference this season - players on the bench who can come 
> on and make a difference
> First half was very even as they chased and harried us at every turn and we 
> missed that zip and sharpness. They had the best 2 chances, a shot that hit 
> the post when we allowed their midfielder time and space,  then a close range 
> shot that Kiko saved.
> Our main efforts were mis directed headers
> 2nd half they could not keep it up and we camped in their half but only 
> created half chances. Bielsa subbed pablo & Harrison both ineffectual on the 
> night and brought on Costa and Eddie.
> Costa got to the byline and put in a sublime cross and Eddie became an 
> instant hero
> The crowd chanted Eddie  Eddie Eddie but followed it up with a song for 
> Bamford who had led the line well and put in the effort
> So we turned a draw last season into a win and sent 35k fa s home happy (I 
> have heard Swansea game is sold out with 10 days to go)
> As for pontus, he ignored us and we ignored him- game wise I hardly noticed 
> him, whereas Ben white was excellent again
> Dave
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Re: [LU] Brentford

[seanscribe--- via Leedslist]

Rich,
I agree with almost everything you wrote. But if you look at the goal again, 
Bamford's not really "marked." He moves into space for Costa to cut the ball 
back to him, but Costa chose the arguably more difficult pass, threading it 
past two retreating defenders to the waiting Nketiah.Bamford's movement made 
one of the defenders check back a half step, which made the difference. Great 
goal, and one that I hope we recreate on a regular basis.

Cheers!
Sean

-Original Message-
From: Richard walker via Leedslist 
To: nat...@sky.com 
Cc: Leeds List 
Sent: Thu, Aug 22, 2019 2:34 am
Subject: Re: [LU] Brentford

Few thoughts.

Good win against a lively Brentford team who were unlucky not to be 1 up at 
half time due to the woodwork. It was a fast paced, frantic game of low 
quality, especially from us at times. We gave the ball away time after time 
after getting in good positions. Pablo had his worst game for Leeds before 
being dragged off. He hardly contributed and when he did get the ball he 
frequently gave it away. Hopefully he’ll be back on song at the weekend but 
overalll his distribution has to improve.
I think Harrison’s position in the team is questionable with Costa breathing 
down his neck. For me Harrison has seen a lot the ball this season but hasn’t 
really produced. I thought he was poor last night and although it’s always 
easier coming on as a sub Costa has a yard extra of pace and acceleration.

Observation on the goal - as Costa breaks down the wing Bamford moves 
instinctively to the front post where he is marked, Eddie instinctively ghosts 
out to the back post unmarked. Easy pass to Eddie and goal and the very clear 
difference in natural goal poacher v unnatural goal poacher. Is there room for 
2 strikers ? I think so. For me Eddie cannot sit on the bench. He offers us 
something that we currently don’t have.

So good win but that’s the second time at home that we’ve struggled. You could 
say that Forest and Brentford might be play off contenders and they’re good 
wins or you could say that we’re not firing at home yet.

Still top of the league and unbeaten.



> On 22 Aug 2019, at 06:53, "nat...@sky.com"  wrote:
> 
> Costa to Nketiah and GOAL Commentators had better get used to saying that as 
> our 2 new players combined again 
> Over 35,000 fans ,for a game that would have been lucky to attract 20,000 a 
> few seasons ago,  24 years after Yeboah thunderbolt, saw new boy Eddie tap in 
> from a yard, but his goal was all about anticipation awareness and being 
> right place right time
> This could be the difference this season - players on the bench who can come 
> on and make a difference 
> First half was very even as they chased and harried us at every turn and we 
> missed that zip and sharpness. They had the best 2 chances, a shot that hit 
> the post when we allowed their midfielder time and space,  then a close range 
> shot that Kiko saved.
> Our main efforts were mis directed headers
> 2nd half they could not keep it up and we camped in their half but only 
> created half chances. Bielsa subbed pablo & Harrison both ineffectual on the 
> night and brought on Costa and Eddie. 
> Costa got to the byline and put in a sublime cross and Eddie became an 
> instant hero
> The crowd chanted Eddie  Eddie Eddie but followed it up with a song for 
> Bamford who had led the line well and put in the effort 
> So we turned a draw last season into a win and sent 35k fa s home happy (I 
> have heard Swansea game is sold out with 10 days to go)
> As for pontus, he ignored us and we ignored him- game wise I hardly noticed 
> him, whereas Ben white was excellent again 
> Dave
> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
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Re: [LU] Brentford

[Richard Walker via Leedslist]

 Yes it would be unfair, having criticised Hernandez for his passing last 
night, not to mention Philips. I thought Philips battled hard and as you say 
did a lot of mopping but his distibution was terrible at times. 
On Thursday, 22 August 2019, 07:54:12 BST, Jim Moran  
wrote:  
 
 I enjoyed the game, and good for my six year old to get a win for his first 
game at Elland Road. Another LUFC sufferer has joined the ranks!
Personally, I thought Bamford did OK against a back three on his own, but was 
always going to struggle especially when Pontus has briefed Brentford so well 
on exactly how we play. First half we weren’t able to pass and rotate out of 
defence to midfield and attack - credit to Brentford for easily spotting and 
killing every midfield rotation. Not helped by Pablo’s atrocious passing. 
Phillips had to mop up continually, almost playing as a third centre half most 
of the game. Not quite got the passing to be the Yorkshire Pirlo yet mind.  
When Costa and Eddie came on we switched formation with two up front, and 
allowed Alioski to push further up. 4 against 3 did the trick, and I believe 
it’s Bamford’s brilliant movement that draws two defenders to the near post 
allowing Eddie to tap in from well inside the far post. 


  
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Re: [LU] Brentford

[Jim Moran]

I enjoyed the game, and good for my six year old to get a win for his first
game at Elland Road. Another LUFC sufferer has joined the ranks!

Personally, I thought Bamford did OK against a back three on his own, but
was always going to struggle especially when Pontus has briefed Brentford
so well on exactly how we play. First half we weren’t able to pass and
rotate out of defence to midfield and attack - credit to Brentford for
easily spotting and killing every midfield rotation. Not helped by Pablo’s
atrocious passing. Phillips had to mop up continually, almost playing as a
third centre half most of the game. Not quite got the passing to be the
Yorkshire Pirlo yet mind.

When Costa and Eddie came on we switched formation with two up front, and
allowed Alioski to push further up. 4 against 3 did the trick, and I
believe it’s Bamford’s brilliant movement that draws two defenders to the
near post allowing Eddie to tap in from well inside the far post.

It’s a vulnerable system that pays off in the last 20 when the opposition
are tired, but I would like to see Eddie and Bamford together for 90
minutes.

On Thu, 22 Aug 2019 at 07:34, Richard walker via Leedslist <
leedslist@gn.apc.org> wrote:

> Few thoughts.
>
> Good win against a lively Brentford team who were unlucky not to be 1 up
> at half time due to the woodwork. It was a fast paced, frantic game of low
> quality, especially from us at times. We gave the ball away time after time
> after getting in good positions. Pablo had his worst game for Leeds before
> being dragged off. He hardly contributed and when he did get the ball he
> frequently gave it away. Hopefully he’ll be back on song at the weekend but
> overalll his distribution has to improve.
> I think Harrison’s position in the team is questionable with Costa
> breathing down his neck. For me Harrison has seen a lot the ball this
> season but hasn’t really produced. I thought he was poor last night and
> although it’s always easier coming on as a sub Costa has a yard extra of
> pace and acceleration.
>
> Observation on the goal - as Costa breaks down the wing Bamford moves
> instinctively to the front post where he is marked, Eddie instinctively
> ghosts out to the back post unmarked. Easy pass to Eddie and goal and the
> very clear difference in natural goal poacher v unnatural goal poacher. Is
> there room for 2 strikers ? I think so. For me Eddie cannot sit on the
> bench. He offers us something that we currently don’t have.
>
> So good win but that’s the second time at home that we’ve struggled. You
> could say that Forest and Brentford might be play off contenders and
> they’re good wins or you could say that we’re not firing at home yet.
>
> Still top of the league and unbeaten.
>
>
>
> > On 22 Aug 2019, at 06:53, "nat...@sky.com"  wrote:
> >
> > Costa to Nketiah and GOAL Commentators had better get used to saying
> that as our 2 new players combined again
> > Over 35,000 fans ,for a game that would have been lucky to attract
> 20,000 a few seasons ago,  24 years after Yeboah thunderbolt, saw new boy
> Eddie tap in from a yard, but his goal was all about anticipation awareness
> and being right place right time
> > This could be the difference this season - players on the bench who can
> come on and make a difference
> > First half was very even as they chased and harried us at every turn and
> we missed that zip and sharpness. They had the best 2 chances, a shot that
> hit the post when we allowed their midfielder time and space,  then a close
> range shot that Kiko saved.
> > Our main efforts were mis directed headers
> > 2nd half they could not keep it up and we camped in their half but only
> created half chances. Bielsa subbed pablo & Harrison both ineffectual on
> the night and brought on Costa and Eddie.
> > Costa got to the byline and put in a sublime cross and Eddie became an
> instant hero
> > The crowd chanted Eddie  Eddie Eddie but followed it up with a song for
> Bamford who had led the line well and put in the effort
> > So we turned a draw last season into a win and sent 35k fa s home happy
> (I have heard Swansea game is sold out with 10 days to go)
> > As for pontus, he ignored us and we ignored him- game wise I hardly
> noticed him, whereas Ben white was excellent again
> > Dave
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Re: [LU] Brentford

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Few thoughts.

Good win against a lively Brentford team who were unlucky not to be 1 up at 
half time due to the woodwork. It was a fast paced, frantic game of low 
quality, especially from us at times. We gave the ball away time after time 
after getting in good positions. Pablo had his worst game for Leeds before 
being dragged off. He hardly contributed and when he did get the ball he 
frequently gave it away. Hopefully he’ll be back on song at the weekend but 
overalll his distribution has to improve.
I think Harrison’s position in the team is questionable with Costa breathing 
down his neck. For me Harrison has seen a lot the ball this season but hasn’t 
really produced. I thought he was poor last night and although it’s always 
easier coming on as a sub Costa has a yard extra of pace and acceleration.

Observation on the goal - as Costa breaks down the wing Bamford moves 
instinctively to the front post where he is marked, Eddie instinctively ghosts 
out to the back post unmarked. Easy pass to Eddie and goal and the very clear 
difference in natural goal poacher v unnatural goal poacher. Is there room for 
2 strikers ? I think so. For me Eddie cannot sit on the bench. He offers us 
something that we currently don’t have.

So good win but that’s the second time at home that we’ve struggled. You could 
say that Forest and Brentford might be play off contenders and they’re good 
wins or you could say that we’re not firing at home yet.

Still top of the league and unbeaten.



> On 22 Aug 2019, at 06:53, "nat...@sky.com"  wrote:
> 
> Costa to Nketiah and GOAL Commentators had better get used to saying that as 
> our 2 new players combined again 
> Over 35,000 fans ,for a game that would have been lucky to attract 20,000 a 
> few seasons ago,  24 years after Yeboah thunderbolt, saw new boy Eddie tap in 
> from a yard, but his goal was all about anticipation awareness and being 
> right place right time
> This could be the difference this season - players on the bench who can come 
> on and make a difference 
> First half was very even as they chased and harried us at every turn and we 
> missed that zip and sharpness. They had the best 2 chances, a shot that hit 
> the post when we allowed their midfielder time and space,  then a close range 
> shot that Kiko saved.
> Our main efforts were mis directed headers
> 2nd half they could not keep it up and we camped in their half but only 
> created half chances. Bielsa subbed pablo & Harrison both ineffectual on the 
> night and brought on Costa and Eddie. 
> Costa got to the byline and put in a sublime cross and Eddie became an 
> instant hero
> The crowd chanted Eddie  Eddie Eddie but followed it up with a song for 
> Bamford who had led the line well and put in the effort 
> So we turned a draw last season into a win and sent 35k fa s home happy (I 
> have heard Swansea game is sold out with 10 days to go)
> As for pontus, he ignored us and we ignored him- game wise I hardly noticed 
> him, whereas Ben white was excellent again 
> Dave
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Re: [LU] Brentford

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 If by some miracle we do make the play-off final what is the process for 
tickets? Might have to come over from the US
Nick
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>I wish I hadn't witnessed the game at all - that bad! I didn't see the point 
>of Forshaw over Phillips, but would it have made a difference the other way 
>round? Who knows.

>Really cheesed off! It really is the hope that kills you!

>Move over Kev Lewis - I'm coming to sit next to you :-)

I think that taking Phillips off at half time v Wigan contributed to the number 
of times they picked up loose balls in midfield.
Also at Brentford he would have stifled some of their counter attacks earlier.

He makes the first challenge on so many attacks, when he is missing Cooper and 
Jansson don't seem to know when to step out, and when to  sit and cover.

Totally agree with Dave Nattan's assessment.  If Leeds squeeze past 
Derby/Boro/Bristol and if I qualify for ticket as a Gold-Member, it may be up 
for grabs.
I'm going on holiday the day after  the play-off final, and I don't want to  
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John Lee wrote.

>I wish I hadn't witnessed the game at all - that bad! I didn't see the point 
>of Forshaw over Phillips, but would it have made a difference the other way 
>round? Who knows.

>Really cheesed off! It really is the hope that kills you!

>Move over Kev Lewis - I'm coming to sit next to you :-)

I think that taking Phillips off at half time v Wigan contributed to the number 
of times they picked up loose balls in midfield.
Also at Brentford he would have stifled some of their counter attacks earlier.

He makes the first challenge on so many attacks, when he is missing Cooper and 
Jansson don't seem to know when to step out, and when to  sit and cover.

Totally agree with Dave Nattan's assessment.  If Leeds squeeze past 
Derby/Boro/Bristol and if I qualify for ticket as a Gold-Member, it may be up 
for grabs.
I'm going on holiday the day after  the play-off final, and I don't want to  
spoil it by having another shit day at a final.

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Re: [LU] Brentford

[Torrey Gilday]

Prior to today's game, Bamford was averaging a goal every 112 minutes.
Averaged over the whole season with a healthy Bamford, that probably is
enough to secure promotion.

On Mon, Apr 22, 2019 at 1:36 PM Nicholas Armit via Leedslist <
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> I think in January they thought Bamford was the striker we needed to get
> us up. Obviously that was not the case.
> Nick
>
>
> Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone
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> On Monday, April 22, 2019, 2:22 PM, Richard Walker via Leedslist <
> leedslist@gn.apc.org> wrote:
>
> That was a very depressing watch. You could see just the confidence
> draining away as the match ticked along. We had nothing to offer up front.
> Bamford is a touch player who needs confidence. In the match he was asked
> to roll up his sleeves and get stuck in. He couldn’t and he’s really gone
> down in my estimation.
>
> The subs again were poor. Jack Clarke came on a just slipped over every
> time he got the ball. What the fuck was going on with the pitch. Roofe also
> came on and contributed nothing other than slipping over a few times.
>
> It’s been a good season on the whole but we’re lacking quality and I don’t
> expect us to do anything in the Play offs. Just more expense and
> disappointment on the way.
>
> Very, very disappointing. A whole season thrown away by our two poorest
> performances of the season. Be interesting to see how Bielsa plays the
> final 2 games.
>
>
> > On 22 Apr 2019, at 18:13, John Boocock  wrote:
> >
> > At HT one nil down means that's now an 11-1 win..
> >
> >> On 22/04/2019 17:15, John Lee via Leedslist wrote:
> >> Well, it’s going to have to be THE motivational speech of his life
> tonight “come on lads, get 10 and we’re back in second”.
> >>
> >> I almost can’t face watching the game - a win would be brilliant, but
> this is going to be tense!
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPad
> >>
> >>> On 22 Apr 2019, at 15:25, Nicholas Armit via Leedslist <
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> >>>
> >>> already 2-0 up in 22 mins.
> >>> Nick
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Re: [LU] Brentford

[Nicholas Armit via Leedslist]

I think in January they thought Bamford was the striker we needed to get us up. 
Obviously that was not the case.
Nick


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On Monday, April 22, 2019, 2:22 PM, Richard Walker via Leedslist 
 wrote:

That was a very depressing watch. You could see just the confidence draining 
away as the match ticked along. We had nothing to offer up front. Bamford is a 
touch player who needs confidence. In the match he was asked to roll up his 
sleeves and get stuck in. He couldn’t and he’s really gone down in my 
estimation.

The subs again were poor. Jack Clarke came on a just slipped over every time he 
got the ball. What the fuck was going on with the pitch. Roofe also came on and 
contributed nothing other than slipping over a few times. 

It’s been a good season on the whole but we’re lacking quality and I don’t 
expect us to do anything in the Play offs. Just more expense and disappointment 
on the way.

Very, very disappointing. A whole season thrown away by our two poorest 
performances of the season. Be interesting to see how Bielsa plays the final 2 
games.


> On 22 Apr 2019, at 18:13, John Boocock  wrote:
> 
> At HT one nil down means that's now an 11-1 win..
> 
>> On 22/04/2019 17:15, John Lee via Leedslist wrote:
>> Well, it’s going to have to be THE motivational speech of his life tonight 
>> “come on lads, get 10 and we’re back in second”.
>> 
>> I almost can’t face watching the game - a win would be brilliant, but this 
>> is going to be tense!
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>>> On 22 Apr 2019, at 15:25, Nicholas Armit via Leedslist 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> already 2-0 up in 22 mins.
>>> Nick
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[John Lee via Leedslist]

The last two games have been, without any doubt, the most depressing for a long 
time, because we had promotion in our grasp, and at the very death the lack of 
quality caught up with us. OK, we should have had a penalty, but we missed 
against Wigan, and f*** me Hernandez couldn’t even deliver a decent corner 
today. Our passing was really bad, shockingly bad, and we have just bottled it!

I don’t expect us to proceed via the play-offs - it’ll be a very cruel irony if 
f***ing Derby beat us and get promoted! 

I wish I hadn’t witnessed the game at all - that bad! I didn’t see the point of 
Forshaw over Phillips, but would it have made a difference the other way round? 
Who knows. 

Really cheesed off! It really is the hope that kills you! 

Move over Kev Lewis - I’m coming to sit next to you :-)


> On 22 Apr 2019, at 19:22, Richard Walker via Leedslist  
> wrote:
> 
> That was a very depressing watch. You could see just the confidence draining 
> away as the match ticked along. We had nothing to offer up front. Bamford is 
> a touch player who needs confidence. In the match he was asked to roll up his 
> sleeves and get stuck in. He couldn’t and he’s really gone down in my 
> estimation.
> 
> The subs again were poor. Jack Clarke came on a just slipped over every time 
> he got the ball. What the fuck was going on with the pitch. Roofe also came 
> on and contributed nothing other than slipping over a few times. 
> 
> It’s been a good season on the whole but we’re lacking quality and I don’t 
> expect us to do anything in the Play offs. Just more expense and 
> disappointment on the way.
> 
> Very, very disappointing. A whole season thrown away by our two poorest 
> performances of the season. Be interesting to see how Bielsa plays the final 
> 2 games.
> 
> 
>> On 22 Apr 2019, at 18:13, John Boocock  wrote:
>> 
>> At HT one nil down means that's now an 11-1 win..
>> 
>>> On 22/04/2019 17:15, John Lee via Leedslist wrote:
>>> Well, it’s going to have to be THE motivational speech of his life tonight 
>>> “come on lads, get 10 and we’re back in second”.
>>> 
>>> I almost can’t face watching the game - a win would be brilliant, but this 
>>> is going to be tense!
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>> 
 On 22 Apr 2019, at 15:25, Nicholas Armit via Leedslist 
  wrote:
 
 already 2-0 up in 22 mins.
 Nick
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[Simon McNally]

It’s so disappointing after such a good season and hard to be really negative 
after it and with the playoffs to come.
However, the way we’ve played the last two games and the results against 
Norwich and Sheff Utd at home fills me with no confidence for the playoffs.
We’ve had a good year but come up short in too many key games. Their confidence 
looks shot, it’s going to be a massive job to get them up for the remaining 
games.
Don’t want to sound like a broken record but lack of investment in January has 
cost us. Whoever’s decision it was not to sign another striker/defender/etc , 
whether it was Radz, Bielsa or Orta , it was a massive mistake. I still think 
if Pukki or Sharp or Gayle or even on today’s game Maupay played for Leeds we’d 
be up already.

I’m off to get wrecked 

S

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> On 22 Apr 2019, at 19:22, Richard Walker via Leedslist  
> wrote:
> 
> That was a very depressing watch. You could see just the confidence draining 
> away as the match ticked along. We had nothing to offer up front. Bamford is 
> a touch player who needs confidence. In the match he was asked to roll up his 
> sleeves and get stuck in. He couldn’t and he’s really gone down in my 
> estimation.
> 
> The subs again were poor. Jack Clarke came on a just slipped over every time 
> he got the ball. What the fuck was going on with the pitch. Roofe also came 
> on and contributed nothing other than slipping over a few times. 
> 
> It’s been a good season on the whole but we’re lacking quality and I don’t 
> expect us to do anything in the Play offs. Just more expense and 
> disappointment on the way.
> 
> Very, very disappointing. A whole season thrown away by our two poorest 
> performances of the season. Be interesting to see how Bielsa plays the final 
> 2 games.
> 
> 
>> On 22 Apr 2019, at 18:13, John Boocock  wrote:
>> 
>> At HT one nil down means that's now an 11-1 win..
>> 
>>> On 22/04/2019 17:15, John Lee via Leedslist wrote:
>>> Well, it’s going to have to be THE motivational speech of his life tonight 
>>> “come on lads, get 10 and we’re back in second”.
>>> 
>>> I almost can’t face watching the game - a win would be brilliant, but this 
>>> is going to be tense!
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>> 
 On 22 Apr 2019, at 15:25, Nicholas Armit via Leedslist 
  wrote:
 
 already 2-0 up in 22 mins.
 Nick
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Re: [LU] Brentford

[Richard Walker via Leedslist]

That was a very depressing watch. You could see just the confidence draining 
away as the match ticked along. We had nothing to offer up front. Bamford is a 
touch player who needs confidence. In the match he was asked to roll up his 
sleeves and get stuck in. He couldn’t and he’s really gone down in my 
estimation.

The subs again were poor. Jack Clarke came on a just slipped over every time he 
got the ball. What the fuck was going on with the pitch. Roofe also came on and 
contributed nothing other than slipping over a few times. 

It’s been a good season on the whole but we’re lacking quality and I don’t 
expect us to do anything in the Play offs. Just more expense and disappointment 
on the way.

Very, very disappointing. A whole season thrown away by our two poorest 
performances of the season. Be interesting to see how Bielsa plays the final 2 
games.


> On 22 Apr 2019, at 18:13, John Boocock  wrote:
> 
> At HT one nil down means that's now an 11-1 win..
> 
>> On 22/04/2019 17:15, John Lee via Leedslist wrote:
>> Well, it’s going to have to be THE motivational speech of his life tonight 
>> “come on lads, get 10 and we’re back in second”.
>> 
>> I almost can’t face watching the game - a win would be brilliant, but this 
>> is going to be tense!
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>>> On 22 Apr 2019, at 15:25, Nicholas Armit via Leedslist 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> already 2-0 up in 22 mins.
>>> Nick
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Re: [LU] Brentford

[John Boocock]

At HT one nil down means that's now an 11-1 win..

On 22/04/2019 17:15, John Lee via Leedslist wrote:

Well, it’s going to have to be THE motivational speech of his life tonight 
“come on lads, get 10 and we’re back in second”.

I almost can’t face watching the game - a win would be brilliant, but this is 
going to be tense!

Sent from my iPad


On 22 Apr 2019, at 15:25, Nicholas Armit via Leedslist  
wrote:

already 2-0 up in 22 mins.
Nick
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Re: [LU] Brentford

[{broken-address} Richard Walker]

He did well but ultimately it was an off target shot and that was the best he 
conjured up all game. I think he's got promise but at the moment I think he 
needs a bit of coaching on how to play in the box.


> On 7 Oct 2018, at 16:27, Robert Heath  wrote:
> 
> The one at the end was a brilliant effort...he shouldn't have even 
> have got to the ball ahead of the defender. If you have ever played football, 
> you will understand that he could not possibly wrap his foot around the ball 
> enough to get that on target, but he did really well to get it close.
> 
>> On Sun, Oct 7, 2018 at 11:23 AM Richard Walker  
>> wrote:
>> First one was the equivalent of a back pass to the keeper and the one at the 
>> end wasn’t even in target.
>> 
>> As I said he did ok but we need better up front if we’re considering 
>> promotion 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> > On 7 Oct 2018, at 11:00, Robert Heath  wrote:
>> > 
>> > " but never really threatened in their box "...er, apart from the
>> > one shot we had on target in the first half, and the moment near the end
>> > when he did brilliantly to get ahead of a defender to a cross which he had
>> > no right to reach and turned the ball inches past the post.
>> > 
>> > On Sun, Oct 7, 2018 at 10:07 AM {broken-address} Richard Walker <
>> > richleed...@yahoo.co.uk.is-broken.gn.apc.org> wrote:
>> > 
>> >> Missed Tyler Roberts who I thought looked tidy but never really threatened
>> >> in their box and I think that may be his problem in that he isn’t going to
>> >> score the tap-ins
>> >> 
>> >> Sent from my iPhone
>> >> 
>> >>> On 7 Oct 2018, at 08:29, Richard Walker  wrote:
>> >>> 
>> >>> Down to 3rd and form since Pablo got injured which is distinctively
>> >> Heckingbottomish (lower mid table)
>> >>> 
>> >>> I've said it before and I'll say it again but that starting 11 will be
>> >> lucky to make the play offs and today, for the first 70 minutes it was
>> >> clear that we were second best. Our passing was terrible led by Luke 
>> >> Ayling
>> >> whose performance levels have been plummeting all season. Yes I would say
>> >> that since he arrived, he has been a great signing but I'd say at the
>> >> moment he's not worth his place in the team. For the first 20 minutes he
>> >> hit new lows as all his passes went astray, he was out of position
>> >> frequently and then had to foul to recovery his position putting us under
>> >> pressure. Hopefully he'll come back strong after the break.
>> >>> 
>> >>> Mind you, he wasn't the only one who was finding them second best to a
>> >> very good Brentford team. With Brentford completely dominating midfield we
>> >> struggled to create with Allioski and Harrison ineffective and isolated 
>> >> and
>> >> an unbalanced left side with Dallas filling in for the injured Douglas who
>> >> I thought we missed. Too many times Dallas pushed forward leaving holes at
>> >> the back and it was left to Jansson to mop up. Playing Dallas at left back
>> >> was just a very poor managerial decision and all about accommodation of a
>> >> player who is in Bielsa's 22 rather than selecting Pearce who isn't a 
>> >> great
>> >> defender (although as good as Dallas) but would have provided much better
>> >> balance. I thought Bielsa was better than that. We did have one or two
>> >> chances the best falling to Philips who was denied by a great point blank
>> >> save by their keeper. At the other end they hit the bar and Peacock made a
>> >> great save to deny them.
>> >>> 
>> >>> The ref didn't help and from the start you could see he just didn't have
>> >> control of the game. Every free-kick was contentious and it seemed he was
>> >> reacting to players and the crowd for his decision rather than being on 
>> >> top
>> >> of it. Refs like that will ruin games and this ref should be sent back to
>> >> non-league to learn his trade before he ever takes charge of a league 
>> >> match.
>> >>> 
>> >>> Second half wasn't much better and Brentford continued to have the best
>> >> chances and look the more likely to score. Their goal looked at the time 
>> >> to
>> >> be a definite pen and I thought Peacock might have got his marching orders
>> >> but looking at it this morning their player conned the ref, however I 
>> >> don't
>> >> blame him for that decision just the 100 others that he got wrong.
>> >>> 
>> >>> The subs for Leeds - Clarke for Dallas, Forshaw for Siaz and Baker for
>> >> Klich did change things. Allioski went to left back and did ok and in
>> >> midfield we looked quicker and stronger and for the first time in the game
>> >> we began to control things in midfield and create chances. It made me
>> >> realise that the midfield of Siaz, Philips and Klich is too pedestrian.
>> >>> 
>> >>> We finally got the goal we deserved for some good play in the last 20
>> >> minutes with Jansson stooping to nod over the keeper into the net. Queue
>> >> some scenes in the stands and on the pitch.
>> >>> 
>> >>> Scores:
>> >>> 
>> >>> Peacock

Re: [LU] Brentford

[Robert Heath]

The one at the end was a brilliant effort...he shouldn't have even
have got to the ball ahead of the defender. If you have ever played
football, you will understand that he could not possibly wrap his foot
around the ball enough to get that on target, but he did really well to get
it close.

On Sun, Oct 7, 2018 at 11:23 AM Richard Walker 
wrote:

> First one was the equivalent of a back pass to the keeper and the one at
> the end wasn’t even in target.
>
> As I said he did ok but we need better up front if we’re considering
> promotion
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On 7 Oct 2018, at 11:00, Robert Heath  wrote:
> >
> > " but never really threatened in their box "...er, apart from the
> > one shot we had on target in the first half, and the moment near the end
> > when he did brilliantly to get ahead of a defender to a cross which he
> had
> > no right to reach and turned the ball inches past the post.
> >
> > On Sun, Oct 7, 2018 at 10:07 AM {broken-address} Richard Walker <
> > richleed...@yahoo.co.uk.is-broken.gn.apc.org> wrote:
> >
> >> Missed Tyler Roberts who I thought looked tidy but never really
> threatened
> >> in their box and I think that may be his problem in that he isn’t going
> to
> >> score the tap-ins
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >>
> >>> On 7 Oct 2018, at 08:29, Richard Walker 
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Down to 3rd and form since Pablo got injured which is distinctively
> >> Heckingbottomish (lower mid table)
> >>>
> >>> I've said it before and I'll say it again but that starting 11 will be
> >> lucky to make the play offs and today, for the first 70 minutes it was
> >> clear that we were second best. Our passing was terrible led by Luke
> Ayling
> >> whose performance levels have been plummeting all season. Yes I would
> say
> >> that since he arrived, he has been a great signing but I'd say at the
> >> moment he's not worth his place in the team. For the first 20 minutes he
> >> hit new lows as all his passes went astray, he was out of position
> >> frequently and then had to foul to recovery his position putting us
> under
> >> pressure. Hopefully he'll come back strong after the break.
> >>>
> >>> Mind you, he wasn't the only one who was finding them second best to a
> >> very good Brentford team. With Brentford completely dominating midfield
> we
> >> struggled to create with Allioski and Harrison ineffective and isolated
> and
> >> an unbalanced left side with Dallas filling in for the injured Douglas
> who
> >> I thought we missed. Too many times Dallas pushed forward leaving holes
> at
> >> the back and it was left to Jansson to mop up. Playing Dallas at left
> back
> >> was just a very poor managerial decision and all about accommodation of
> a
> >> player who is in Bielsa's 22 rather than selecting Pearce who isn't a
> great
> >> defender (although as good as Dallas) but would have provided much
> better
> >> balance. I thought Bielsa was better than that. We did have one or two
> >> chances the best falling to Philips who was denied by a great point
> blank
> >> save by their keeper. At the other end they hit the bar and Peacock
> made a
> >> great save to deny them.
> >>>
> >>> The ref didn't help and from the start you could see he just didn't
> have
> >> control of the game. Every free-kick was contentious and it seemed he
> was
> >> reacting to players and the crowd for his decision rather than being on
> top
> >> of it. Refs like that will ruin games and this ref should be sent back
> to
> >> non-league to learn his trade before he ever takes charge of a league
> match.
> >>>
> >>> Second half wasn't much better and Brentford continued to have the best
> >> chances and look the more likely to score. Their goal looked at the
> time to
> >> be a definite pen and I thought Peacock might have got his marching
> orders
> >> but looking at it this morning their player conned the ref, however I
> don't
> >> blame him for that decision just the 100 others that he got wrong.
> >>>
> >>> The subs for Leeds - Clarke for Dallas, Forshaw for Siaz and Baker for
> >> Klich did change things. Allioski went to left back and did ok and in
> >> midfield we looked quicker and stronger and for the first time in the
> game
> >> we began to control things in midfield and create chances. It made me
> >> realise that the midfield of Siaz, Philips and Klich is too pedestrian.
> >>>
> >>> We finally got the goal we deserved for some good play in the last 20
> >> minutes with Jansson stooping to nod over the keeper into the net. Queue
> >> some scenes in the stands and on the pitch.
> >>>
> >>> Scores:
> >>>
> >>> Peacock - 7. One or two decent saves, good kicking and also one or two
> >> moments of confusion with his defence.
> >>>
> >>> Ayling - 3. Very poor. His passing has deserted him and he looks
> >> vulnerable at the back. Weak link today.
> >>>
> >>> Dallas - 3. Kept going forward on his right foot leaving holes in the
> >> defence. Huge mistake to play him at left back.
> >>>
> 

Re: [LU] Brentford

[Nick]

Yes - their full back was good - but he got Harrison early with one of those 
‘welcome to the game’ challenges…and Harrison spent to next 70 minutes pulling 
out of tackles and conspicuously avoiding contact - this is one thing that 
Alioski, for whatever other faults he may have, can’t be accused of…don’t get 
me wrong, I think Harrison has promise, but he got chewed up and spat out 
yesterday.

> On 7 Oct 2018, at 15:15, Nicholas Armit  wrote:
> 
> Don't know if Harrison being lightweight is fair. Their left back was very 
> good. Sometimes you have just to give credit where credit is due.
> 
> On Sunday, October 7, 2018, 6:46:16 AM EDT, Nick  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> The problem with the ref was not so much the penalty decision (which he got 
> conned on) but the twenty or thirty other challenges - some of them really 
> good clean tackles - that he blew for…he just gave the impression that he 
> didn’t know what he was doing - Brentford taking the free kick when Ayling 
> hadn’t left the pitch…as Dave mentioned I’ve never heard a crowd a sing "you 
> don’t know what you’re doing” when the ref gives a free kick to their team…
> 
> Ayling was a bag of shite all game
> Pontus had one of his best games
> Harrison was lightweight and invisible for much of it
> They didn’t run the midfield in the first half…it was a 50-50 thing…Klich was 
> causing them as many nightmares as they were causing us, but he faded badly.
> 
>   
> 
> > On 7 Oct 2018, at 11:25, {broken-address} 
> >  > > wrote:
> > 
> > I don’t think we’re being hyper critical by pointing out the fact that 
> > passing a ball seems beyond Ayling (for one). Like Rich, I thought we 
> > didn’t deserve even a point, but was ecstatic when Pontus scored. First 
> > half we kind of matched Brentford - second half was a very different story. 
> > What Bielsa has done with the resources at hand has been miraculous, but 
> > when Dallas is first reserve at left back the deficiencies in the squad are 
> > pretty clear. 
> > 
> > The ref was bad, for both teams, but Ayling was stupid beyond belief - 20 
> > seconds from the end kicking one of their players on the thigh with studs 
> > showing! What an utter bell-end! OK, the ref was rubbish, and was conned 
> > for the penalty (although there was contact) but that’s just an excuse 
> > really - no doubt Janssons post match interview will land him in bother, 
> > but if he thinks the ref robbed us he is seriously deluded! 
> > 
> > There is plenty to hope for with this team, and maybe reality is that we’re 
> > not strong enough yet, but if we can get a couple of decent ball players 
> > and integrate a couple of the juniors then it looks good. Passing the ball 
> > to our own players is a must though!
> > 
> > John
> >> 
> >> From: Leedslist  >> > on behalf of nat...@sky.com 
> >>  mailto:nat...@sky.com>>
> >> Sent: Saturday, October 6, 2018 11:23:14 PM
> >> To: Leeds List
> >> Subject: [LU] Brentford
> >> 
> >> Wow - there are some ultra critical fans on here. OK we were not at out 
> >> best today and we were  very lapse at timesHaving said that apart from the 
> >> last 15 minutes when we battered them it was a very even, up and down game 
> >> with both teams being on top for periods here and there
> >> The referee was as bad as I have seen - in 40 + years of watching LUFC 
> >> week after week  I cannot recall fans ever singing' you don't know what 
> >> you're doing' and 'you're not fit to referee' after a ref has given a free 
> >> kick OUR way ! Yes, we have had plenty of sarcastic cheering when we get a 
> >> decision and lots of ironic 'handball ' shouts but nothing like today. The 
> >> ref was totally clueless and out of his depth, and like many a ref, seemed 
> >> to be out to show he would not be intimidated by the home crowd. At one 
> >> point Alioski lost his footing with their lad at least 2 yards away and 
> >> the ref gave us a free-kick which led to laughter and the aforementioned 
> >> chants
> >> The penalty was at the opposite end to where I am so hard to determine 
> >> live but I have seen it on peoples phones since and that was never a pen 
> >> in a million years - the lad got his shot off (would ref have given a pen 
> >> if it had gone it) and Ayling made a great goal line clearanceI hate it 
> >> when managers blame the ref for one decision so I am not going to say it 
> >> was his fault here , BUT in addition to the wrong penalty decision the ref 
> >> was pulling us for foul after foul any time players came into contact and 
> >> was card happy when it came to Leeds players (no idea why Ayling got sent 
> >> off but not seen it since so not going to comment)
> >> Anyway back to the game itself. Like I say we had a poor day at the office 
> >> and our passing was just that bit wayward - under or over hit too often, 
> >> or taking the wrong

Re: [LU] Brentford

[{broken-address} Nicholas Armit]

 Don't know if Harrison being lightweight is fair. Their left back was very 
good. Sometimes you have just to give credit where credit is due.
On Sunday, October 7, 2018, 6:46:16 AM EDT, Nick  
wrote:  
 
 The problem with the ref was not so much the penalty decision (which he got 
conned on) but the twenty or thirty other challenges - some of them really good 
clean tackles - that he blew for…he just gave the impression that he didn’t 
know what he was doing - Brentford taking the free kick when Ayling hadn’t left 
the pitch…as Dave mentioned I’ve never heard a crowd a sing "you don’t know 
what you’re doing” when the ref gives a free kick to their team…

Ayling was a bag of shite all game
Pontus had one of his best games
Harrison was lightweight and invisible for much of it
They didn’t run the midfield in the first half…it was a 50-50 thing…Klich was 
causing them as many nightmares as they were causing us, but he faded badly.

  

> On 7 Oct 2018, at 11:25, {broken-address} 
>  wrote:
> 
> I don’t think we’re being hyper critical by pointing out the fact that 
> passing a ball seems beyond Ayling (for one). Like Rich, I thought we didn’t 
> deserve even a point, but was ecstatic when Pontus scored. First half we kind 
> of matched Brentford - second half was a very different story. What Bielsa 
> has done with the resources at hand has been miraculous, but when Dallas is 
> first reserve at left back the deficiencies in the squad are pretty clear. 
> 
> The ref was bad, for both teams, but Ayling was stupid beyond belief - 20 
> seconds from the end kicking one of their players on the thigh with studs 
> showing! What an utter bell-end! OK, the ref was rubbish, and was conned for 
> the penalty (although there was contact) but that’s just an excuse really - 
> no doubt Janssons post match interview will land him in bother, but if he 
> thinks the ref robbed us he is seriously deluded! 
> 
> There is plenty to hope for with this team, and maybe reality is that we’re 
> not strong enough yet, but if we can get a couple of decent ball players and 
> integrate a couple of the juniors then it looks good. Passing the ball to our 
> own players is a must though!
> 
> John
>> 
>> From: Leedslist  on behalf of nat...@sky.com 
>> 
>> Sent: Saturday, October 6, 2018 11:23:14 PM
>> To: Leeds List
>> Subject: [LU] Brentford
>> 
>> Wow - there are some ultra critical fans on here. OK we were not at out best 
>> today and we were  very lapse at timesHaving said that apart from the last 
>> 15 minutes when we battered them it was a very even, up and down game with 
>> both teams being on top for periods here and there
>> The referee was as bad as I have seen - in 40 + years of watching LUFC week 
>> after week  I cannot recall fans ever singing' you don't know what you're 
>> doing' and 'you're not fit to referee' after a ref has given a free kick OUR 
>> way ! Yes, we have had plenty of sarcastic cheering when we get a decision 
>> and lots of ironic 'handball ' shouts but nothing like today. The ref was 
>> totally clueless and out of his depth, and like many a ref, seemed to be out 
>> to show he would not be intimidated by the home crowd. At one point Alioski 
>> lost his footing with their lad at least 2 yards away and the ref gave us a 
>> free-kick which led to laughter and the aforementioned chants
>> The penalty was at the opposite end to where I am so hard to determine live 
>> but I have seen it on peoples phones since and that was never a pen in a 
>> million years - the lad got his shot off (would ref have given a pen if it 
>> had gone it) and Ayling made a great goal line clearanceI hate it when 
>> managers blame the ref for one decision so I am not going to say it was his 
>> fault here , BUT in addition to the wrong penalty decision the ref was 
>> pulling us for foul after foul any time players came into contact and was 
>> card happy when it came to Leeds players (no idea why Ayling got sent off 
>> but not seen it since so not going to comment)
>> Anyway back to the game itself. Like I say we had a poor day at the office 
>> and our passing was just that bit wayward - under or over hit too often, or 
>> taking the wrong option.
>> 
>> They were a decent team and got the rub of the green most of the time, much 
>> of it deserved - for example the scramble where Phillips nearly scored but 
>> the keeper did really well and got the luck he needed
>> Harrison was off the pace and out of form and has as much chance of playing 
>> for Man City as Pennington has of playing for Everton - none !
>> We huffed and puffed but at times were out Leeds' by a very decent team
>> The missing players caught up with us today but you cannot fault us for 
>> effort and we never gave it up - in fact we created more in the last 15 
>> minutes than the previous 75 with Roberts and Baker (twice) coming close to 
>> getting us a winner
>> MB made all 3 subs with 20mins or more to go - non

Re: [LU] Brentford

[{broken-address} Nicholas Armit]

 I am not a Phillips fan but I thought tis was his best game in ages. And 
Alisoski won the free kick that led to the goal and and took the free kisk. 
Also thought this was his best game. Ayling poor thoughout.
On Sunday, October 7, 2018, 3:29:20 AM EDT, {broken-address} Richard Walker 
 wrote:  
 
 Down to 3rd and form since Pablo got injured which is distinctively 
Heckingbottomish (lower mid table)

I've said it before and I'll say it again but that starting 11 will be lucky to 
make the play offs and today, for the first 70 minutes it was clear that we 
were second best. Our passing was terrible led by Luke Ayling whose performance 
levels have been plummeting all season. Yes I would say that since he arrived, 
he has been a great signing but I'd say at the moment he's not worth his place 
in the team. For the first 20 minutes he hit new lows as all his passes went 
astray, he was out of position frequently and then had to foul to recovery his 
position putting us under pressure. Hopefully he'll come back strong after the 
break. 

Mind you, he wasn't the only one who was finding them second best to a very 
good Brentford team. With Brentford completely dominating midfield we struggled 
to create with Allioski and Harrison ineffective and isolated and an unbalanced 
left side with Dallas filling in for the injured Douglas who I thought we 
missed. Too many times Dallas pushed forward leaving holes at the back and it 
was left to Jansson to mop up. Playing Dallas at left back was just a very poor 
managerial decision and all about accommodation of a player who is in Bielsa's 
22 rather than selecting Pearce who isn't a great defender (although as good as 
Dallas) but would have provided much better balance. I thought Bielsa was 
better than that. We did have one or two chances the best falling to Philips 
who was denied by a great point blank save by their keeper. At the other end 
they hit the bar and Peacock made a great save to deny them. 

The ref didn't help and from the start you could see he just didn't have 
control of the game. Every free-kick was contentious and it seemed he was 
reacting to players and the crowd for his decision rather than being on top of 
it. Refs like that will ruin games and this ref should be sent back to 
non-league to learn his trade before he ever takes charge of a league match.
Second half wasn't much better and Brentford continued to have the best chances 
and look the more likely to score. Their goal looked at the time to be a 
definite pen and I thought Peacock might have got his marching orders but 
looking at it this morning their player conned the ref, however I don't blame 
him for that decision just the 100 others that he got wrong. 
The subs for Leeds - Clarke for Dallas, Forshaw for Siaz and Baker for Klich 
did change things. Allioski went to left back and did ok and in midfield we 
looked quicker and stronger and for the first time in the game we began to 
control things in midfield and create chances. It made me realise that the 
midfield of Siaz, Philips and Klich is too pedestrian. 
 We finally got the goal we deserved for some good play in the last 20 minutes 
with Jansson stooping to nod over the keeper into the net. Queue some scenes in 
the stands and on the pitch.
Scores:
Peacock - 7. One or two decent saves, good kicking and also one or two moments 
of confusion with his defence.
Ayling - 3. Very poor. His passing has deserted him and he looks vulnerable at 
the back. Weak link today. 
Dallas - 3. Kept going forward on his right foot leaving holes in the defence. 
Huge mistake to play him at left back. 
Cooper - 4. Bad mistake for their pen. Same old Cooper will fuck up when the 
pressure is on. 
Jansson - 8. Held us together time and time again. 
Philips - 5. Battled hard but offers little. 
Klich - 5. Definitely not himself today. 
Siaz - 4. Didn't contribute. 
Harrison - 4. Don't rate him. He has no real pace and rarely beats his man. 
Allioski - 5. Offered nothing going forward but when moved to left back he 
seemed to be more at home. 
Subs:
Clarke - LIke the look of the lad. A tall James Milner type player.
Forshaw - Does everything Philips can't
Baker - decent free-kick and he looks like a player to me. 

Did we deserve a point ? I don't think so. Brentford are a better side than us 
and I think we will slip out of the play off places if we continue with this 
starting 11.


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Re: [LU] Brentford

[Nick]

The problem with the ref was not so much the penalty decision (which he got 
conned on) but the twenty or thirty other challenges - some of them really good 
clean tackles - that he blew for…he just gave the impression that he didn’t 
know what he was doing - Brentford taking the free kick when Ayling hadn’t left 
the pitch…as Dave mentioned I’ve never heard a crowd a sing "you don’t know 
what you’re doing” when the ref gives a free kick to their team…

Ayling was a bag of shite all game
Pontus had one of his best games
Harrison was lightweight and invisible for much of it
They didn’t run the midfield in the first half…it was a 50-50 thing…Klich was 
causing them as many nightmares as they were causing us, but he faded badly.

  

> On 7 Oct 2018, at 11:25, {broken-address} 
>  wrote:
> 
> I don’t think we’re being hyper critical by pointing out the fact that 
> passing a ball seems beyond Ayling (for one). Like Rich, I thought we didn’t 
> deserve even a point, but was ecstatic when Pontus scored. First half we kind 
> of matched Brentford - second half was a very different story. What Bielsa 
> has done with the resources at hand has been miraculous, but when Dallas is 
> first reserve at left back the deficiencies in the squad are pretty clear. 
> 
> The ref was bad, for both teams, but Ayling was stupid beyond belief - 20 
> seconds from the end kicking one of their players on the thigh with studs 
> showing! What an utter bell-end! OK, the ref was rubbish, and was conned for 
> the penalty (although there was contact) but that’s just an excuse really - 
> no doubt Janssons post match interview will land him in bother, but if he 
> thinks the ref robbed us he is seriously deluded! 
> 
> There is plenty to hope for with this team, and maybe reality is that we’re 
> not strong enough yet, but if we can get a couple of decent ball players and 
> integrate a couple of the juniors then it looks good. Passing the ball to our 
> own players is a must though!
> 
> John
>> 
>> From: Leedslist  on behalf of nat...@sky.com 
>> 
>> Sent: Saturday, October 6, 2018 11:23:14 PM
>> To: Leeds List
>> Subject: [LU] Brentford
>> 
>> Wow - there are some ultra critical fans on here. OK we were not at out best 
>> today and we were  very lapse at timesHaving said that apart from the last 
>> 15 minutes when we battered them it was a very even, up and down game with 
>> both teams being on top for periods here and there
>> The referee was as bad as I have seen - in 40 + years of watching LUFC week 
>> after week  I cannot recall fans ever singing' you don't know what you're 
>> doing' and 'you're not fit to referee' after a ref has given a free kick OUR 
>> way ! Yes, we have had plenty of sarcastic cheering when we get a decision 
>> and lots of ironic 'handball ' shouts but nothing like today. The ref was 
>> totally clueless and out of his depth, and like many a ref, seemed to be out 
>> to show he would not be intimidated by the home crowd. At one point Alioski 
>> lost his footing with their lad at least 2 yards away and the ref gave us a 
>> free-kick which led to laughter and the aforementioned chants
>> The penalty was at the opposite end to where I am so hard to determine live 
>> but I have seen it on peoples phones since and that was never a pen in a 
>> million years - the lad got his shot off (would ref have given a pen if it 
>> had gone it) and Ayling made a great goal line clearanceI hate it when 
>> managers blame the ref for one decision so I am not going to say it was his 
>> fault here , BUT in addition to the wrong penalty decision the ref was 
>> pulling us for foul after foul any time players came into contact and was 
>> card happy when it came to Leeds players (no idea why Ayling got sent off 
>> but not seen it since so not going to comment)
>> Anyway back to the game itself. Like I say we had a poor day at the office 
>> and our passing was just that bit wayward - under or over hit too often, or 
>> taking the wrong option.
>> 
>> They were a decent team and got the rub of the green most of the time, much 
>> of it deserved - for example the scramble where Phillips nearly scored but 
>> the keeper did really well and got the luck he needed
>> Harrison was off the pace and out of form and has as much chance of playing 
>> for Man City as Pennington has of playing for Everton - none !
>> We huffed and puffed but at times were out Leeds' by a very decent team
>> The missing players caught up with us today but you cannot fault us for 
>> effort and we never gave it up - in fact we created more in the last 15 
>> minutes than the previous 75 with Roberts and Baker (twice) coming close to 
>> getting us a winner
>> MB made all 3 subs with 20mins or more to go - none of this sitting back and 
>> letting the game pass us by. The best of the subs was giving Clarke a run 
>> out. He looks  brilliant and the stand out player for the u23s and for the 
>> brief time he was on t

Re: [LU] Brentford

[{broken-address}]

I don’t think we’re being hyper critical by pointing out the fact that passing 
a ball seems beyond Ayling (for one). Like Rich, I thought we didn’t deserve 
even a point, but was ecstatic when Pontus scored. First half we kind of 
matched Brentford - second half was a very different story. What Bielsa has 
done with the resources at hand has been miraculous, but when Dallas is first 
reserve at left back the deficiencies in the squad are pretty clear. 

The ref was bad, for both teams, but Ayling was stupid beyond belief - 20 
seconds from the end kicking one of their players on the thigh with studs 
showing! What an utter bell-end! OK, the ref was rubbish, and was conned for 
the penalty (although there was contact) but that’s just an excuse really - no 
doubt Janssons post match interview will land him in bother, but if he thinks 
the ref robbed us he is seriously deluded! 

There is plenty to hope for with this team, and maybe reality is that we’re not 
strong enough yet, but if we can get a couple of decent ball players and 
integrate a couple of the juniors then it looks good. Passing the ball to our 
own players is a must though!

John
> 
> From: Leedslist  on behalf of nat...@sky.com 
> 
> Sent: Saturday, October 6, 2018 11:23:14 PM
> To: Leeds List
> Subject: [LU] Brentford
> 
> Wow - there are some ultra critical fans on here. OK we were not at out best 
> today and we were  very lapse at timesHaving said that apart from the last 15 
> minutes when we battered them it was a very even, up and down game with both 
> teams being on top for periods here and there
> The referee was as bad as I have seen - in 40 + years of watching LUFC week 
> after week  I cannot recall fans ever singing' you don't know what you're 
> doing' and 'you're not fit to referee' after a ref has given a free kick OUR 
> way ! Yes, we have had plenty of sarcastic cheering when we get a decision 
> and lots of ironic 'handball ' shouts but nothing like today. The ref was 
> totally clueless and out of his depth, and like many a ref, seemed to be out 
> to show he would not be intimidated by the home crowd. At one point Alioski 
> lost his footing with their lad at least 2 yards away and the ref gave us a 
> free-kick which led to laughter and the aforementioned chants
> The penalty was at the opposite end to where I am so hard to determine live 
> but I have seen it on peoples phones since and that was never a pen in a 
> million years - the lad got his shot off (would ref have given a pen if it 
> had gone it) and Ayling made a great goal line clearanceI hate it when 
> managers blame the ref for one decision so I am not going to say it was his 
> fault here , BUT in addition to the wrong penalty decision the ref was 
> pulling us for foul after foul any time players came into contact and was 
> card happy when it came to Leeds players (no idea why Ayling got sent off but 
> not seen it since so not going to comment)
> Anyway back to the game itself. Like I say we had a poor day at the office 
> and our passing was just that bit wayward - under or over hit too often, or 
> taking the wrong option.
> 
> They were a decent team and got the rub of the green most of the time, much 
> of it deserved - for example the scramble where Phillips nearly scored but 
> the keeper did really well and got the luck he needed
> Harrison was off the pace and out of form and has as much chance of playing 
> for Man City as Pennington has of playing for Everton - none !
> We huffed and puffed but at times were out Leeds' by a very decent team
> The missing players caught up with us today but you cannot fault us for 
> effort and we never gave it up - in fact we created more in the last 15 
> minutes than the previous 75 with Roberts and Baker (twice) coming close to 
> getting us a winner
> MB made all 3 subs with 20mins or more to go - none of this sitting back and 
> letting the game pass us by. The best of the subs was giving Clarke a run 
> out. He looks  brilliant and the stand out player for the u23s and for the 
> brief time he was on the pitch he showed enough to suggest he is the real 
> deal and should get more game time in the future
> So another 2 pts dropped at home and, on paper, we have not got many points 
> per game over the last 6 or 7 BUT it is so different from last season - we 
> have not been found out, we can not be bullied and we are not falling apart 
> again- we should have won many of the drawn games and today even though we 
> were far from our best we could easily have had all 3 pts
> Hopefully when we play next Roofe, Douglas and Hernandez will start and 
> Berardi will replace the suspended Ayling
> This is time to get behind the team and buy into the Bielsaball not panic and 
> get on the teams back
> One final comment - for a 12.30 kick off the fans were a bit mental. Lots of 
> plastic bottles thrown from SS after the little shit jumped into them to 
> celebrate his penalty, anot

Re: [LU] Brentford

[{broken-address} Richard Walker]

First one was the equivalent of a back pass to the keeper and the one at the 
end wasn’t even in target.

As I said he did ok but we need better up front if we’re considering promotion 

Sent from my iPhone

> On 7 Oct 2018, at 11:00, Robert Heath  wrote:
> 
> " but never really threatened in their box "...er, apart from the
> one shot we had on target in the first half, and the moment near the end
> when he did brilliantly to get ahead of a defender to a cross which he had
> no right to reach and turned the ball inches past the post.
> 
> On Sun, Oct 7, 2018 at 10:07 AM {broken-address} Richard Walker <
> richleed...@yahoo.co.uk.is-broken.gn.apc.org> wrote:
> 
>> Missed Tyler Roberts who I thought looked tidy but never really threatened
>> in their box and I think that may be his problem in that he isn’t going to
>> score the tap-ins
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On 7 Oct 2018, at 08:29, Richard Walker  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Down to 3rd and form since Pablo got injured which is distinctively
>> Heckingbottomish (lower mid table)
>>> 
>>> I've said it before and I'll say it again but that starting 11 will be
>> lucky to make the play offs and today, for the first 70 minutes it was
>> clear that we were second best. Our passing was terrible led by Luke Ayling
>> whose performance levels have been plummeting all season. Yes I would say
>> that since he arrived, he has been a great signing but I'd say at the
>> moment he's not worth his place in the team. For the first 20 minutes he
>> hit new lows as all his passes went astray, he was out of position
>> frequently and then had to foul to recovery his position putting us under
>> pressure. Hopefully he'll come back strong after the break.
>>> 
>>> Mind you, he wasn't the only one who was finding them second best to a
>> very good Brentford team. With Brentford completely dominating midfield we
>> struggled to create with Allioski and Harrison ineffective and isolated and
>> an unbalanced left side with Dallas filling in for the injured Douglas who
>> I thought we missed. Too many times Dallas pushed forward leaving holes at
>> the back and it was left to Jansson to mop up. Playing Dallas at left back
>> was just a very poor managerial decision and all about accommodation of a
>> player who is in Bielsa's 22 rather than selecting Pearce who isn't a great
>> defender (although as good as Dallas) but would have provided much better
>> balance. I thought Bielsa was better than that. We did have one or two
>> chances the best falling to Philips who was denied by a great point blank
>> save by their keeper. At the other end they hit the bar and Peacock made a
>> great save to deny them.
>>> 
>>> The ref didn't help and from the start you could see he just didn't have
>> control of the game. Every free-kick was contentious and it seemed he was
>> reacting to players and the crowd for his decision rather than being on top
>> of it. Refs like that will ruin games and this ref should be sent back to
>> non-league to learn his trade before he ever takes charge of a league match.
>>> 
>>> Second half wasn't much better and Brentford continued to have the best
>> chances and look the more likely to score. Their goal looked at the time to
>> be a definite pen and I thought Peacock might have got his marching orders
>> but looking at it this morning their player conned the ref, however I don't
>> blame him for that decision just the 100 others that he got wrong.
>>> 
>>> The subs for Leeds - Clarke for Dallas, Forshaw for Siaz and Baker for
>> Klich did change things. Allioski went to left back and did ok and in
>> midfield we looked quicker and stronger and for the first time in the game
>> we began to control things in midfield and create chances. It made me
>> realise that the midfield of Siaz, Philips and Klich is too pedestrian.
>>> 
>>> We finally got the goal we deserved for some good play in the last 20
>> minutes with Jansson stooping to nod over the keeper into the net. Queue
>> some scenes in the stands and on the pitch.
>>> 
>>> Scores:
>>> 
>>> Peacock - 7. One or two decent saves, good kicking and also one or two
>> moments of confusion with his defence.
>>> 
>>> Ayling - 3. Very poor. His passing has deserted him and he looks
>> vulnerable at the back. Weak link today.
>>> 
>>> Dallas - 3. Kept going forward on his right foot leaving holes in the
>> defence. Huge mistake to play him at left back.
>>> 
>>> Cooper - 4. Bad mistake for their pen. Same old Cooper will fuck up when
>> the pressure is on.
>>> 
>>> Jansson - 8. Held us together time and time again.
>>> 
>>> Philips - 5. Battled hard but offers little.
>>> 
>>> Klich - 5. Definitely not himself today.
>>> 
>>> Siaz - 4. Didn't contribute.
>>> 
>>> Harrison - 4. Don't rate him. He has no real pace and rarely beats his
>> man.
>>> 
>>> Allioski - 5. Offered nothing going forward but when moved to left back
>> he seemed to be more at home.
>>> 
>>> Subs:
>>> 
>>> Clarke - LIke the look of the lad

Re: [LU] Brentford

[Robert Heath]

" but never really threatened in their box "...er, apart from the
one shot we had on target in the first half, and the moment near the end
when he did brilliantly to get ahead of a defender to a cross which he had
no right to reach and turned the ball inches past the post.

On Sun, Oct 7, 2018 at 10:07 AM {broken-address} Richard Walker <
richleed...@yahoo.co.uk.is-broken.gn.apc.org> wrote:

> Missed Tyler Roberts who I thought looked tidy but never really threatened
> in their box and I think that may be his problem in that he isn’t going to
> score the tap-ins
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On 7 Oct 2018, at 08:29, Richard Walker  wrote:
> >
> > Down to 3rd and form since Pablo got injured which is distinctively
> Heckingbottomish (lower mid table)
> >
> > I've said it before and I'll say it again but that starting 11 will be
> lucky to make the play offs and today, for the first 70 minutes it was
> clear that we were second best. Our passing was terrible led by Luke Ayling
> whose performance levels have been plummeting all season. Yes I would say
> that since he arrived, he has been a great signing but I'd say at the
> moment he's not worth his place in the team. For the first 20 minutes he
> hit new lows as all his passes went astray, he was out of position
> frequently and then had to foul to recovery his position putting us under
> pressure. Hopefully he'll come back strong after the break.
> >
> > Mind you, he wasn't the only one who was finding them second best to a
> very good Brentford team. With Brentford completely dominating midfield we
> struggled to create with Allioski and Harrison ineffective and isolated and
> an unbalanced left side with Dallas filling in for the injured Douglas who
> I thought we missed. Too many times Dallas pushed forward leaving holes at
> the back and it was left to Jansson to mop up. Playing Dallas at left back
> was just a very poor managerial decision and all about accommodation of a
> player who is in Bielsa's 22 rather than selecting Pearce who isn't a great
> defender (although as good as Dallas) but would have provided much better
> balance. I thought Bielsa was better than that. We did have one or two
> chances the best falling to Philips who was denied by a great point blank
> save by their keeper. At the other end they hit the bar and Peacock made a
> great save to deny them.
> >
> > The ref didn't help and from the start you could see he just didn't have
> control of the game. Every free-kick was contentious and it seemed he was
> reacting to players and the crowd for his decision rather than being on top
> of it. Refs like that will ruin games and this ref should be sent back to
> non-league to learn his trade before he ever takes charge of a league match.
> >
> > Second half wasn't much better and Brentford continued to have the best
> chances and look the more likely to score. Their goal looked at the time to
> be a definite pen and I thought Peacock might have got his marching orders
> but looking at it this morning their player conned the ref, however I don't
> blame him for that decision just the 100 others that he got wrong.
> >
> > The subs for Leeds - Clarke for Dallas, Forshaw for Siaz and Baker for
> Klich did change things. Allioski went to left back and did ok and in
> midfield we looked quicker and stronger and for the first time in the game
> we began to control things in midfield and create chances. It made me
> realise that the midfield of Siaz, Philips and Klich is too pedestrian.
> >
> >  We finally got the goal we deserved for some good play in the last 20
> minutes with Jansson stooping to nod over the keeper into the net. Queue
> some scenes in the stands and on the pitch.
> >
> > Scores:
> >
> > Peacock - 7. One or two decent saves, good kicking and also one or two
> moments of confusion with his defence.
> >
> > Ayling - 3. Very poor. His passing has deserted him and he looks
> vulnerable at the back. Weak link today.
> >
> > Dallas - 3. Kept going forward on his right foot leaving holes in the
> defence. Huge mistake to play him at left back.
> >
> > Cooper - 4. Bad mistake for their pen. Same old Cooper will fuck up when
> the pressure is on.
> >
> > Jansson - 8. Held us together time and time again.
> >
> > Philips - 5. Battled hard but offers little.
> >
> > Klich - 5. Definitely not himself today.
> >
> > Siaz - 4. Didn't contribute.
> >
> > Harrison - 4. Don't rate him. He has no real pace and rarely beats his
> man.
> >
> > Allioski - 5. Offered nothing going forward but when moved to left back
> he seemed to be more at home.
> >
> > Subs:
> >
> > Clarke - LIke the look of the lad. A tall James Milner type player.
> >
> > Forshaw - Does everything Philips can't
> >
> > Baker - decent free-kick and he looks like a player to me.
> >
> >
> > Did we deserve a point ? I don't think so. Brentford are a better side
> than us and I think we will slip out of the play off places if we continue
> with this starting 11.
> >
> >

Re: [LU] Brentford

[{broken-address} Richard Walker]

Missed Tyler Roberts who I thought looked tidy but never really threatened in 
their box and I think that may be his problem in that he isn’t going to score 
the tap-ins

Sent from my iPhone

> On 7 Oct 2018, at 08:29, Richard Walker  wrote:
> 
> Down to 3rd and form since Pablo got injured which is distinctively 
> Heckingbottomish (lower mid table)
> 
> I've said it before and I'll say it again but that starting 11 will be lucky 
> to make the play offs and today, for the first 70 minutes it was clear that 
> we were second best. Our passing was terrible led by Luke Ayling whose 
> performance levels have been plummeting all season. Yes I would say that 
> since he arrived, he has been a great signing but I'd say at the moment he's 
> not worth his place in the team. For the first 20 minutes he hit new lows as 
> all his passes went astray, he was out of position frequently and then had to 
> foul to recovery his position putting us under pressure. Hopefully he'll come 
> back strong after the break. 
> 
> Mind you, he wasn't the only one who was finding them second best to a very 
> good Brentford team. With Brentford completely dominating midfield we 
> struggled to create with Allioski and Harrison ineffective and isolated and 
> an unbalanced left side with Dallas filling in for the injured Douglas who I 
> thought we missed. Too many times Dallas pushed forward leaving holes at the 
> back and it was left to Jansson to mop up. Playing Dallas at left back was 
> just a very poor managerial decision and all about accommodation of a player 
> who is in Bielsa's 22 rather than selecting Pearce who isn't a great defender 
> (although as good as Dallas) but would have provided much better balance. I 
> thought Bielsa was better than that. We did have one or two chances the best 
> falling to Philips who was denied by a great point blank save by their 
> keeper. At the other end they hit the bar and Peacock made a great save to 
> deny them. 
> 
> The ref didn't help and from the start you could see he just didn't have 
> control of the game. Every free-kick was contentious and it seemed he was 
> reacting to players and the crowd for his decision rather than being on top 
> of it. Refs like that will ruin games and this ref should be sent back to 
> non-league to learn his trade before he ever takes charge of a league match.
> 
> Second half wasn't much better and Brentford continued to have the best 
> chances and look the more likely to score. Their goal looked at the time to 
> be a definite pen and I thought Peacock might have got his marching orders 
> but looking at it this morning their player conned the ref, however I don't 
> blame him for that decision just the 100 others that he got wrong. 
> 
> The subs for Leeds - Clarke for Dallas, Forshaw for Siaz and Baker for Klich 
> did change things. Allioski went to left back and did ok and in midfield we 
> looked quicker and stronger and for the first time in the game we began to 
> control things in midfield and create chances. It made me realise that the 
> midfield of Siaz, Philips and Klich is too pedestrian. 
> 
>  We finally got the goal we deserved for some good play in the last 20 
> minutes with Jansson stooping to nod over the keeper into the net. Queue some 
> scenes in the stands and on the pitch.
> 
> Scores:
> 
> Peacock - 7. One or two decent saves, good kicking and also one or two 
> moments of confusion with his defence.
> 
> Ayling - 3. Very poor. His passing has deserted him and he looks vulnerable 
> at the back. Weak link today. 
> 
> Dallas - 3. Kept going forward on his right foot leaving holes in the 
> defence. Huge mistake to play him at left back. 
> 
> Cooper - 4. Bad mistake for their pen. Same old Cooper will fuck up when the 
> pressure is on. 
> 
> Jansson - 8. Held us together time and time again. 
> 
> Philips - 5. Battled hard but offers little. 
> 
> Klich - 5. Definitely not himself today. 
> 
> Siaz - 4. Didn't contribute. 
> 
> Harrison - 4. Don't rate him. He has no real pace and rarely beats his man. 
> 
> Allioski - 5. Offered nothing going forward but when moved to left back he 
> seemed to be more at home. 
> 
> Subs:
> 
> Clarke - LIke the look of the lad. A tall James Milner type player.
> 
> Forshaw - Does everything Philips can't
> 
> Baker - decent free-kick and he looks like a player to me. 
> 
> 
> Did we deserve a point ? I don't think so. Brentford are a better side than 
> us and I think we will slip out of the play off places if we continue with 
> this starting 11.
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [LU] Brentford

[Simon McNally]

I think that is a fair assessment of the game. 
Hernandez would always be the first name on the team sheet for me and we always 
miss him when he’s not playing.
Ayling had a shocker but has been one of our better players since he arrived. 
Hopefully Berardi will be fit for the Blackburn game or maybe he’ll play 
Shackleton there. More likely I suppose would be Dallas to right back but I 
just don’t rate him. I’m not convinced he can play the way Bielsa wants to. His 
touch is poor he’s often out of position and he can’t cross to save his life.
I think our first choice 11 is decent but back up players not at same level

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> On 7 Oct 2018, at 08:29, {broken-address} Richard Walker 
>  wrote:
> 
> Down to 3rd and form since Pablo got injured which is distinctively 
> Heckingbottomish (lower mid table)
> 
> I've said it before and I'll say it again but that starting 11 will be lucky 
> to make the play offs and today, for the first 70 minutes it was clear that 
> we were second best. Our passing was terrible led by Luke Ayling whose 
> performance levels have been plummeting all season. Yes I would say that 
> since he arrived, he has been a great signing but I'd say at the moment he's 
> not worth his place in the team. For the first 20 minutes he hit new lows as 
> all his passes went astray, he was out of position frequently and then had to 
> foul to recovery his position putting us under pressure. Hopefully he'll come 
> back strong after the break. 
> 
> Mind you, he wasn't the only one who was finding them second best to a very 
> good Brentford team. With Brentford completely dominating midfield we 
> struggled to create with Allioski and Harrison ineffective and isolated and 
> an unbalanced left side with Dallas filling in for the injured Douglas who I 
> thought we missed. Too many times Dallas pushed forward leaving holes at the 
> back and it was left to Jansson to mop up. Playing Dallas at left back was 
> just a very poor managerial decision and all about accommodation of a player 
> who is in Bielsa's 22 rather than selecting Pearce who isn't a great defender 
> (although as good as Dallas) but would have provided much better balance. I 
> thought Bielsa was better than that. We did have one or two chances the best 
> falling to Philips who was denied by a great point blank save by their 
> keeper. At the other end they hit the bar and Peacock made a great save to 
> deny them. 
> 
> The ref didn't help and from the start you could see he just didn't have 
> control of the game. Every free-kick was contentious and it seemed he was 
> reacting to players and the crowd for his decision rather than being on top 
> of it. Refs like that will ruin games and this ref should be sent back to 
> non-league to learn his trade before he ever takes charge of a league match.
> Second half wasn't much better and Brentford continued to have the best 
> chances and look the more likely to score. Their goal looked at the time to 
> be a definite pen and I thought Peacock might have got his marching orders 
> but looking at it this morning their player conned the ref, however I don't 
> blame him for that decision just the 100 others that he got wrong. 
> The subs for Leeds - Clarke for Dallas, Forshaw for Siaz and Baker for Klich 
> did change things. Allioski went to left back and did ok and in midfield we 
> looked quicker and stronger and for the first time in the game we began to 
> control things in midfield and create chances. It made me realise that the 
> midfield of Siaz, Philips and Klich is too pedestrian. 
>  We finally got the goal we deserved for some good play in the last 20 
> minutes with Jansson stooping to nod over the keeper into the net. Queue some 
> scenes in the stands and on the pitch.
> Scores:
> Peacock - 7. One or two decent saves, good kicking and also one or two 
> moments of confusion with his defence.
> Ayling - 3. Very poor. His passing has deserted him and he looks vulnerable 
> at the back. Weak link today. 
> Dallas - 3. Kept going forward on his right foot leaving holes in the 
> defence. Huge mistake to play him at left back. 
> Cooper - 4. Bad mistake for their pen. Same old Cooper will fuck up when the 
> pressure is on. 
> Jansson - 8. Held us together time and time again. 
> Philips - 5. Battled hard but offers little. 
> Klich - 5. Definitely not himself today. 
> Siaz - 4. Didn't contribute. 
> Harrison - 4. Don't rate him. He has no real pace and rarely beats his man. 
> Allioski - 5. Offered nothing going forward but when moved to left back he 
> seemed to be more at home. 
> Subs:
> Clarke - LIke the look of the lad. A tall James Milner type player.
> Forshaw - Does everything Philips can't
> Baker - decent free-kick and he looks like a player to me. 
> 
> Did we deserve a point ? I don't think so. Brentford are a better side than 
> us and I think we will slip out of the play off places if we continue with 
> this starting 11.
> 
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Re: [LU] Brentford

[Michael Benjamin]

Totally agree
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Sent: Saturday, October 6, 2018 11:23:14 PM
To: Leeds List
Subject: [LU] Brentford

Wow - there are some ultra critical fans on here. OK we were not at out best 
today and we were  very lapse at timesHaving said that apart from the last 15 
minutes when we battered them it was a very even, up and down game with both 
teams being on top for periods here and there
The referee was as bad as I have seen - in 40 + years of watching LUFC week 
after week  I cannot recall fans ever singing' you don't know what you're 
doing' and 'you're not fit to referee' after a ref has given a free kick OUR 
way ! Yes, we have had plenty of sarcastic cheering when we get a decision and 
lots of ironic 'handball ' shouts but nothing like today. The ref was totally 
clueless and out of his depth, and like many a ref, seemed to be out to show he 
would not be intimidated by the home crowd. At one point Alioski lost his 
footing with their lad at least 2 yards away and the ref gave us a free-kick 
which led to laughter and the aforementioned chants
The penalty was at the opposite end to where I am so hard to determine live but 
I have seen it on peoples phones since and that was never a pen in a million 
years - the lad got his shot off (would ref have given a pen if it had gone it) 
and Ayling made a great goal line clearanceI hate it when managers blame the 
ref for one decision so I am not going to say it was his fault here , BUT in 
addition to the wrong penalty decision the ref was pulling us for foul after 
foul any time players came into contact and was card happy when it came to 
Leeds players (no idea why Ayling got sent off but not seen it since so not 
going to comment)
Anyway back to the game itself. Like I say we had a poor day at the office and 
our passing was just that bit wayward - under or over hit too often, or taking 
the wrong option.

They were a decent team and got the rub of the green most of the time, much of 
it deserved - for example the scramble where Phillips nearly scored but the 
keeper did really well and got the luck he needed
Harrison was off the pace and out of form and has as much chance of playing for 
Man City as Pennington has of playing for Everton - none !
We huffed and puffed but at times were out Leeds' by a very decent team
The missing players caught up with us today but you cannot fault us for effort 
and we never gave it up - in fact we created more in the last 15 minutes than 
the previous 75 with Roberts and Baker (twice) coming close to getting us a 
winner
MB made all 3 subs with 20mins or more to go - none of this sitting back and 
letting the game pass us by. The best of the subs was giving Clarke a run out. 
He looks  brilliant and the stand out player for the u23s and for the brief 
time he was on the pitch he showed enough to suggest he is the real deal and 
should get more game time in the future
So another 2 pts dropped at home and, on paper, we have not got many points per 
game over the last 6 or 7 BUT it is so different from last season - we have not 
been found out, we can not be bullied and we are not falling apart again- we 
should have won many of the drawn games and today even though we were far from 
our best we could easily have had all 3 pts
Hopefully when we play next Roofe, Douglas and Hernandez will start and Berardi 
will replace the suspended Ayling
This is time to get behind the team and buy into the Bielsaball not panic and 
get on the teams back
One final comment - for a 12.30 kick off the fans were a bit mental. Lots of 
plastic bottles thrown from SS after the little shit jumped into them to 
celebrate his penalty, another Lucazade bottle thrown (and hit) the keeper from 
the Kop and then a mini pitch invasion when we equalised including one lad 
fighting with 4 or 5 stewards over a few minutes- long enough that the police 
decided to step in. Why would someone run on the pitch and get a criminal 
conviciton and a 3 year ban for an 88th minute equaliser against a mid table 
team in Ocotber  Not that it would be OK to do it with a last minute winner 
in the last game in May but you know what I mean
Dave
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[Jim Moran]

Plan A is plan A.

Bielsa won’t change the plan. He would betray the players if he said the
system that did work in the games we did win is all of a sudden no longer
valid.

Don’t know if it’ll work, but that’s the system.

On Sat, 6 Oct 2018 at 16:42, {broken-address} <
bruvvalee...@yahoo.co.uk.is-broken.gn.apc.org> wrote:

> Hard to argue with that Rich. Ayling was utterly shite - his passing has
> been shite for weeks, but his positives outweighed the negatives until
> today. His sending off capped a shit afternoon. I hope Bielsa will have a
> rethink about the fannying around at the back - he must have shat himself
> when Cooper was doing his oak tree impression!
>
> We were very lucky to get a point, despite the penalty that shouldn’t have
> been.
>
> Siaz is so slow - that’s why he’s playing in England in the second
> tier and not in Spain.
>
> Found out by a better ‘team’ for sure, but we didn’t lose, so if this
> speeds up the introduction of younger players in their ‘natural’ position
> rather than seeing Dallas criss crossing the pitch then getting caught out
> time and again, then maybe some good will come from it?
>
> Surely Bielsa must see the dangers of inadequate players trying to play
> out from the back against good pressing teams?
>
>
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> > On 6 Oct 2018, at 14:14, {broken-address} gcwhite2001 <
> gcwhite2...@yahoo.com-is-broken.gn.apc.org> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > Worst performance I've seen so far this season.
> >
> >
> > Sent from my Samsung device
> >
> >  Original message 
> > From: {broken-address} Richard Walker <
> richleed...@yahoo.co.uk.is-broken.gn.apc.org>
> > Date: 06/10/2018  14:29  (GMT+01:00)
> > To: leedslist@gn.apc.org
> > Subject: [LU] Brentford
> >
> > 2nd best all over pitch .
> >
> > Ayling awful again, passing poor from us. They look like a team to me.
> >
> > Dallas at left back is just a really bad managerial decision when Pearce
> is sat on bench.
> >
> > We’ve got a lack of pace I. Midfield - Siaz and Philips are pedestrian
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [LU] Brentford

[Michael Benjamin]

We are very dependent on Barradi and Hernandez.


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Sent: Saturday, October 6, 2018 6:42:26 PM
To: {broken-address} gcwhite2001
Cc: leedslist@gn.apc.org; {broken-address} Richard Walker
Subject: Re: [LU] Brentford

Hard to argue with that Rich. Ayling was utterly shite - his passing has been 
shite for weeks, but his positives outweighed the negatives until today. His 
sending off capped a shit afternoon. I hope Bielsa will have a rethink about 
the fannying around at the back - he must have shat himself when Cooper was 
doing his oak tree impression!

We were very lucky to get a point, despite the penalty that shouldn’t have been.

Siaz is so slow - that’s why he’s playing in England in the second tier and 
not in Spain.

Found out by a better ‘team’ for sure, but we didn’t lose, so if this speeds up 
the introduction of younger players in their ‘natural’ position rather than 
seeing Dallas criss crossing the pitch then getting caught out time and again, 
then maybe some good will come from it?

Surely Bielsa must see the dangers of inadequate players trying to play out 
from the back against good pressing teams?



Sent from my iPad

> On 6 Oct 2018, at 14:14, {broken-address} gcwhite2001 
>  wrote:
>
>
>
> Worst performance I've seen so far this season.
>
>
> Sent from my Samsung device
>
>  Original message 
> From: {broken-address} Richard Walker 
> 
> Date: 06/10/2018  14:29  (GMT+01:00)
> To: leedslist@gn.apc.org
> Subject: [LU] Brentford
>
> 2nd best all over pitch .
>
> Ayling awful again, passing poor from us. They look like a team to me.
>
> Dallas at left back is just a really bad managerial decision when Pearce is 
> sat on bench.
>
> We’ve got a lack of pace I. Midfield - Siaz and Philips are pedestrian
>
>
>
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [LU] Brentford

[{broken-address}]

Hard to argue with that Rich. Ayling was utterly shite - his passing has been 
shite for weeks, but his positives outweighed the negatives until today. His 
sending off capped a shit afternoon. I hope Bielsa will have a rethink about 
the fannying around at the back - he must have shat himself when Cooper was 
doing his oak tree impression!

We were very lucky to get a point, despite the penalty that shouldn’t have 
been. 

Siaz is so slow - that’s why he’s playing in England in the second tier and 
not in Spain. 

Found out by a better ‘team’ for sure, but we didn’t lose, so if this speeds up 
the introduction of younger players in their ‘natural’ position rather than 
seeing Dallas criss crossing the pitch then getting caught out time and again, 
then maybe some good will come from it?

Surely Bielsa must see the dangers of inadequate players trying to play out 
from the back against good pressing teams?



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> On 6 Oct 2018, at 14:14, {broken-address} gcwhite2001 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> Worst performance I've seen so far this season.
> 
> 
> Sent from my Samsung device
> 
>  Original message 
> From: {broken-address} Richard Walker 
>  
> Date: 06/10/2018  14:29  (GMT+01:00) 
> To: leedslist@gn.apc.org 
> Subject: [LU] Brentford 
> 
> 2nd best all over pitch .
> 
> Ayling awful again, passing poor from us. They look like a team to me.
> 
> Dallas at left back is just a really bad managerial decision when Pearce is 
> sat on bench.
> 
> We’ve got a lack of pace I. Midfield - Siaz and Philips are pedestrian 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [LU] Brentford

[Jim Moran]

Playing against 12 men as well. Referee was a complete joke.

On Sat, 6 Oct 2018 at 14:21, Richard Naef 
wrote:

>
> > Worst performance I've seen so far this season.
>
>
> True, And yet we still get a point about the best team (other than us at
> times) I've seen this season. and we've 5 of our best players out
> injured.
>
> ttfn
>
> Richard
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Leedslist  On Behalf Of
> {broken-address} gcwhite2001
> Sent: 06 October 2018 14:14
> To: {broken-address} Richard Walker <
> richleed...@yahoo.co.uk.is-broken.gn.apc.org>; leedslist@gn.apc.org
> Subject: Re: [LU] Brentford
>
>
>
> Worst performance I've seen so far this season.
>
>
> Sent from my Samsung device
>
>  Original message 
> From: {broken-address} Richard Walker <
> richleed...@yahoo.co.uk.is-broken.gn.apc.org>
> Date: 06/10/2018  14:29  (GMT+01:00)
> To: leedslist@gn.apc.org
> Subject: [LU] Brentford
>
> 2nd best all over pitch .
>
> Ayling awful again, passing poor from us. They look like a team to me.
>
> Dallas at left back is just a really bad managerial decision when Pearce
> is sat on bench.
>
> We’ve got a lack of pace I. Midfield - Siaz and Philips are pedestrian
>
>
>
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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[Richard Naef]

> Worst performance I've seen so far this season.


True, And yet we still get a point about the best team (other than us at times) 
I've seen this season. and we've 5 of our best players out injured.

ttfn

Richard

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gcwhite2001
Sent: 06 October 2018 14:14
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; leedslist@gn.apc.org
Subject: Re: [LU] Brentford



Worst performance I've seen so far this season.


Sent from my Samsung device

 Original message 
From: {broken-address} Richard Walker 
 
Date: 06/10/2018  14:29  (GMT+01:00) 
To: leedslist@gn.apc.org 
Subject: [LU] Brentford 

2nd best all over pitch .

Ayling awful again, passing poor from us. They look like a team to me.

Dallas at left back is just a really bad managerial decision when Pearce is sat 
on bench.

We’ve got a lack of pace I. Midfield - Siaz and Philips are pedestrian 





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[{broken-address} gcwhite2001]

Worst performance I've seen so far this season.


Sent from my Samsung device

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From: {broken-address} Richard Walker 
 
Date: 06/10/2018  14:29  (GMT+01:00) 
To: leedslist@gn.apc.org 
Subject: [LU] Brentford 

2nd best all over pitch .

Ayling awful again, passing poor from us. They look like a team to me.

Dallas at left back is just a really bad managerial decision when Pearce is sat 
on bench.

We’ve got a lack of pace I. Midfield - Siaz and Philips are pedestrian 





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We won and that is what counts. This was almost a game of two halves , the 
first half we were second best throughout and really rode our luck, second half 
we were the better team and only some odd refereeing decisions stopped us 
extending the lead
From the first whistle we were awful , unable to string two passes together as 
we faced wave after wave of attacks, mainly down our left as Anita, in for De 
Bock, looked like a fish out of water. It all came down that side and we 
struggled to get any foot hold in the game as they looked faster, sharper and 
just generally better than us. 

Having said that chances were at a premium and they kept messing up the final 
ball and no clear cut opportunites arose. The best chance was a clearance that 
fell to their lad on the edge of the box who volleyed it goal wards- it was a 
nice height for the keeper and indeed, Felix went at it full stretch and made a 
great save, one that will look better on TV than it was in reality
At the other end we never got going. We had Saiz, possibly the best player in 
the league, certainly the best player at ER and we never gave him the ball. 
Also Lassogga, up there with the best goals per minutes ratio in the league got 
no service. 

It was looking like it would be a long afternoon when suddenly, against the run 
of play we got a free kick just inside their half, Alioski put it into the box 
and, not for the first time League One Liam (as my lad calls him) met it 
brilliantly, but, for the first time in a long time, he got it on target and 
into the net.1 up and we never looked back
Second half with the crowd trying to replicate last Sundays atmosphere, we 
looked a different team with Saiz pulling all the strings and looking like a 
player from a different planet. 

For all that we did not create too much, our best chance being an awful bit 
from the referee. The ball was passed forward to Lassogga who was clean through 
and took it towards the keeper. Surely he would score?
We never found out as the ref pulled it back for a foul on Siaz (?) and booked 
the Brentford player. What happened to advantage ? We were robbed. Even worse a 
bit later on Saiz had his shirt pulled but stayed on his feet and carried on 
with the ball but the ref pulled it back- ridiculous
We did look as if, for once, we would hold out,as their only chance was a free 
kick from distance that Felix should have caught but decided to parry- poor 
keeping.
Anyway we made a few subs with Ekuban and Sacko both coming on to no great 
affect , (I think I am the last of the Sacko fans) and we saw the game out
Not the best performance but we just about shaded it and a useful three points. 
Too late perhaps but welcome nontheless.
DaveIn the West Ridings pre game there was a collection and some lovely cakes 
in aid of some Leeds fan who has had some sort of brain tumour that has cost 
him the use of one eye 

  From: Simon McNally 
 To: Richard Walker  
Cc: Leeds List 
 Sent: Saturday, 24 February 2018, 19:24
 Subject: Re: [LU] Brentford
   
Agree with most of that.
When I heard O’Kane and Cooper were starting I was tempted to stay in the car 
rather than going into the ground.
I was impressed with the Heck’s comments the other day about using the 
remaining games to make a judgement about who is going to be here next season.
Weidwald - good save first half but why doesn’t he catch that free kick? He’s 
made too many mistakes this season and we need an upgrade next season.
Berardi - did ok, steady performance 
Anita - was really worried early on, particularly when he got booked, but stuck 
at it and at least does the basics well
Jansson - our best defender, looked solid. Only panic was when him and Cooper 
went for the same ball 
Cooper - first time for ages he actually got a header on target. Played well 
today but I hope it doesn’t fool Heck. He is not a regular player in a team 
pushing for promotion 
Dallas - solid if unspectacular. Does a job and works hard
Alioski - falls over too much but a lot better today. Great cross for goal
O’Kane - did a few things well but a lot wrong. Nearly gifted them a goal early 
on, messed up a good chance late on. A league one player at best
Phillips - thought he had a good game. Broke up play and won a few second balls
Saiz - head and shoulders above everyone else on the pitch
Big Pete - looks more interested, linked up play and nearly scored

Disappointed to hear Roofe was injured - thought the Heck had dropped him and 
wouldn’t have to watch him again!

Sent from my iPhone

> On 24 Feb 2018, at 18:50, {broken-address} Richard Walker 
>  wrote:
> 
> Lots of changes today and I feared the worst when I saw O'Kane, Philips, 
> Allioski and Dallas lining up in midfield. Nobody will ever convince me that 
> midfield is one to push for promotion. Pedestrian and lacking in ability is 
> my description. Also we dropped our international left back signing for Anita 
> a makeshift left back. Surel

Re: [LU] Brentford

[Simon McNally]

Agree with most of that.
When I heard O’Kane and Cooper were starting I was tempted to stay in the car 
rather than going into the ground.
I was impressed with the Heck’s comments the other day about using the 
remaining games to make a judgement about who is going to be here next season.
Weidwald - good save first half but why doesn’t he catch that free kick? He’s 
made too many mistakes this season and we need an upgrade next season.
Berardi - did ok, steady performance 
Anita - was really worried early on, particularly when he got booked, but stuck 
at it and at least does the basics well
Jansson - our best defender, looked solid. Only panic was when him and Cooper 
went for the same ball 
Cooper - first time for ages he actually got a header on target. Played well 
today but I hope it doesn’t fool Heck. He is not a regular player in a team 
pushing for promotion 
Dallas - solid if unspectacular. Does a job and works hard
Alioski - falls over too much but a lot better today. Great cross for goal
O’Kane - did a few things well but a lot wrong. Nearly gifted them a goal early 
on, messed up a good chance late on. A league one player at best
Phillips - thought he had a good game. Broke up play and won a few second balls
Saiz - head and shoulders above everyone else on the pitch
Big Pete - looks more interested, linked up play and nearly scored

Disappointed to hear Roofe was injured - thought the Heck had dropped him and 
wouldn’t have to watch him again!

Sent from my iPhone

> On 24 Feb 2018, at 18:50, {broken-address} Richard Walker 
>  wrote:
> 
> Lots of changes today and I feared the worst when I saw O'Kane, Philips, 
> Allioski and Dallas lining up in midfield. Nobody will ever convince me that 
> midfield is one to push for promotion. Pedestrian and lacking in ability is 
> my description. Also we dropped our international left back signing for Anita 
> a makeshift left back. Surely Orta didn't get his January wages after that 
> signing ?
> And so my fears were realised as Brentford played us off the park for most of 
> the first half. Yes they didn't create that many chances due to poor last 
> pass choices but they played football that we can only dream of. Everytime we 
> got the ball we seemed to give it away and Anita was having a torrid time 
> against Josefzoon (or someone with a name like that). Siaz hardly touched the 
> ball and we really struggled. Brentford has one great shot excellently saved 
> by Wieldwald. 
> Then just like Derby, completely against the run of play, we scored. This 
> time from a free-kick and unbelievable Cooper who must have had 52 easier 
> headers like this that he didn't even get on target, decided today to place 
> header in the far corner. It was a superb header.
> In a half where Brentford must have had 70% of the play and possession we 
> were 1 up and we didn't even shit ourselves in the last few minutes of the 
> half. 
> Second half was much better as Brentford lost their early swagger but I still 
> felt that we were playing on the counter which is not what you want at home 
> against a mid table team. Siaz came in to the game and suddenly we started 
> playing like we did second half against Derby. Everyone suddenly looked a bit 
> better. Even the hapless O'Kane was contributing and Dallas who worked hard 
> throughout started to win the ball and contribute going forward. Allioski 
> showed little quality but was busy and annoyed the hell out of Brentford. 
> Pistol Pete crafted a great chance for himself when he danced around everyone 
> and then decided to side foot it with no conviction towards the net - should 
> have scored. We also were unlucky when the ref called play back for a foul on 
> Siaz when advantage would have left PP in the clear. 
> Brentford did try to get that equaliser but we defended well if desperately 
> at times. Sometimes we just seemed to get in each others way when clearing - 
> very key stone cops at times. Their most dangerous attack came from a free 
> kick on the edge of the box. It was a decent free-kick, nothing special, but 
> our keeper made a meal and instead of catching it (I could have) he punched 
> it !!! Luckily we cleared but it could have gone anywhere. This is not 
> goalkeeping as we know it.
> Surprisingly we saw the game out fairly comfortably which amazed me and the 
> crowd who did their bit second half were very relieved to see the first win 
> since boxing day.
> Did we deserve it ? Not really, but I'm not complaining as we are rock bottom 
> on confidence and this can only be a step in the right direction. I don't 
> think we can progress too far in this league with that midfield but hopefully.
> Scores:
> Wiedwald - 6. A clean sheet and a top class save but that doesn't convince me 
> I'm afraid when he's pushing balls that he should be catching. 
> Beradi - 7. We know he's got his weaknesses and he had the easier job of the 
> full backs bur second half he put a few tackles in that summed up wha

Re: [LU] Brentford etc

[{broken-address} Nicholas Armit]

Far better today. Awesome atmosphere and good team performance. Thought 
Hernandez and Jannson were the pick of the bunch. Great day out with other 
fellow Leeds fans from the states. 

Nick

Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 7, 2017, at 10:54 AM, Richard Naef  
> wrote:
> 
> Thanks Dave for the pep talk, perhaps next time you need to share the morph 
> around as well :) 
> 
> ttfn
> 
> Richard
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Leedslist [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of 
> nat...@sky.com
> Sent: 05 April 2017 10:43
> To: Leeds List 
> Subject: [LU] Brentford etc
> 
> Luckily I was out last night so did not have to suffer listening to it on the 
> radio, but everything I have seen and read makes it seem as if we were very 
> poor.
> I am not sure if Monk is now struggling to work out his best team or if he 
> just (over) re-acted to the Reading defeat and dropped all those who were 
> poor - we all agreed Cooper, Veirra and Sacko were pretty awful, most thought 
> the same about Pedraza and Taylor was at fault for the goal. Whatever it was 
> a bad result and performance last night
> 
> Having said that , when I was swimming today, I though back to the 3 
> 'successes' LUFC have had in my watching  lifetime and all 3 had  a game when 
> I thought we had blown it
> 
> The 89 promotion season - last home game, a night game v Barnsley - us 
> unbeaten at home, them not a single away victory all season - a nailed on 3 
> points and almost certain promotion. I remember them turning to religion and 
> bringing on Archdeacon and Bishop who both scored and suddenly our title was 
> hanging by a thread. Then BOOM ! Bournemouth and promotion
> 
> 
> The League title -a  trip to Maine Road, Man City not scored for 3 or 4 
> games, us flying, beaten there 4 1 the previous year 'well it cannot be as 
> bad as last year' we all said, and '3 pts and the title is coming our way" - 
> 90mins and 4 goals later it was all 'Man City have handed the title to their 
> red rivals' - all doom and gloom. The BOOM! Sheff Utd and the title
> 
> 
> Then the promotion from the 3rd Division - at home to Bristol Rovers - 
> needing to win to avoid the playoffs (and almost certain defeat in them) - 
> Max sent off and 0 0 at half time. "we can still do it as long as we do not 
> go behind" was mine and most peoples thoughts. A few minutes later there it 
> was 0 1 and us in big trouble - we all thought we had blown it. Then BOOM ! 
> Johnny Howson (the answer to our prayers- as i sarcastically said at the 
> time) and Beckford and promotion
> 
> So fear not fellow listers - Reading and Brentford was the big scare - the 
> Barnsley , the Man City, the Bristol goal and  Saturday v Preston will be the 
> BOOM ! and Wood's hat trick will sort it all out*
> Dave* disclaimer - this is after a load of morphine to get me through my 
> exercises and can in no way be treated as FACT !
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Re: [LU] Brentford etc

[Richard Naef]

Thanks Dave for the pep talk, perhaps next time you need to share the morph 
around as well :) 

ttfn

Richard

-Original Message-
From: Leedslist [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of 
nat...@sky.com
Sent: 05 April 2017 10:43
To: Leeds List 
Subject: [LU] Brentford etc

Luckily I was out last night so did not have to suffer listening to it on the 
radio, but everything I have seen and read makes it seem as if we were very 
poor.
I am not sure if Monk is now struggling to work out his best team or if he just 
(over) re-acted to the Reading defeat and dropped all those who were poor - we 
all agreed Cooper, Veirra and Sacko were pretty awful, most thought the same 
about Pedraza and Taylor was at fault for the goal. Whatever it was a bad 
result and performance last night

Having said that , when I was swimming today, I though back to the 3 
'successes' LUFC have had in my watching  lifetime and all 3 had  a game when I 
thought we had blown it

The 89 promotion season - last home game, a night game v Barnsley - us unbeaten 
at home, them not a single away victory all season - a nailed on 3 points and 
almost certain promotion. I remember them turning to religion and bringing on 
Archdeacon and Bishop who both scored and suddenly our title was hanging by a 
thread. Then BOOM ! Bournemouth and promotion


The League title -a  trip to Maine Road, Man City not scored for 3 or 4 games, 
us flying, beaten there 4 1 the previous year 'well it cannot be as bad as last 
year' we all said, and '3 pts and the title is coming our way" - 90mins and 4 
goals later it was all 'Man City have handed the title to their red rivals' - 
all doom and gloom. The BOOM! Sheff Utd and the title


Then the promotion from the 3rd Division - at home to Bristol Rovers - needing 
to win to avoid the playoffs (and almost certain defeat in them) - Max sent off 
and 0 0 at half time. "we can still do it as long as we do not go behind" was 
mine and most peoples thoughts. A few minutes later there it was 0 1 and us in 
big trouble - we all thought we had blown it. Then BOOM ! Johnny Howson (the 
answer to our prayers- as i sarcastically said at the time) and Beckford and 
promotion

So fear not fellow listers - Reading and Brentford was the big scare - the 
Barnsley , the Man City, the Bristol goal and  Saturday v Preston will be the 
BOOM ! and Wood's hat trick will sort it all out*
Dave* disclaimer - this is after a load of morphine to get me through my 
exercises and can in no way be treated as FACT !
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Re: [LU] Brentford

[{broken-address} Richard Walker]

I agree with that Dave, in fact, all of us who went to the game yesterday 
thought in terms of the football on the show, this was a step backwards and was 
the worst we've seen for some while.
Brentford were a very average team but I thought they had a couple of players 
that were lively.

The result and the goal flattered us and there's no way I'm getting carried 
away by this, some of our players are not up to it in my opinion.

I thought all our defence did well again, but in midfield Philips was bloody 
awful. He kept giving the ball away or firing it into touch. I think he's 
improved but I'd put him back in the reserves for now. Bridcutt steadied the 
ship when he came on and I think the excellent Vierra needs to play alongside 
Bridcutt not Philips.

I thought Sacko had his usual game, he terrified them, made some good runs but 
there was no end product. 

Dallas - not sure what he is ? I thought he was bang average.

Doukara worked hard and did one or two good things but I was actually left 
questioning whether we missed Wood which is not good for the Duke.

Sorry for shit match report I'm feeling rough, the drinking yesterday was 
better than the footy.



> On 17 Dec 2016, at 20:20, "nat...@sky.com"  wrote:
> 
> 3 valuable points -making it 6 in a week - and we go into Christmas in a play 
> off place so I have no real complaintsHaving said that , today was awful with 
> barely a shot on target all game. The first half was dire and we thought that 
> Monk would really lay into them and send them out all fired up after a half 
> when there was a real lack of commitment and skill, but the second half was 
> nearly as bad.The general apathy and poor play was as bad as anything seen 
> under Evans, Rosler or Redfearn with one big difference, under all those 
> managers we would have lost - but today there was a belief in the crowd and 
> more  mportantly on the pitch that even if we never found our rythmn etc we 
> would not conceed and we would get at least a point/A few volleys from 
> Ayling- that went miles over - apart we never really created any chances but 
> there was a feeling that we could play all night and they would never score 
> and so there could be only one winner.We did up the tempo towards the end and 
> really w
 ent for it as they reaslied that a 0 0 was the best they could hope for , and 
, sure enough, as the clock ticked down a good cross into the box was well met 
by captian Bartley and he headed home - a great finish for him and a great 
finish to a poor gameSo a win wihtout our top scorer (wood) and our most 
creative player (Hernandez) - a game that will soon be forgotten but oen that 
shows we are genuine contenders for a play off place
> Dave
> 
> 
>  From: Rob Heath 
> To: [broken-address] Nicholas Armit  
> Cc: Leeds List ; {broken-address} Richard Walker 
> 
> Sent: Saturday, 17 December 2016, 19:51
> Subject: Re: [LU] Brentford
> 
> My first live game of the season (ergo 9 players were making their "debuts"
> for me). I was very impressed with how we stuck at it. It was agonising how
> many really good ideas and moves just failed to come off, but we never
> stopped trying to play football. I think Brentford deserve some credit for
> being so tough to crack. A lot of performances were a bit patchy but I
> don't think anybody played badly.
> 
> The back 5 were superb.
> 
> Vieira was also excellent..Phillips mercurial but did a lot of good
> things..
> but it was noticeable how Bridcutts presence lifted the urgency level.
> 
> Dallas had a poor first half but much better second..and made the goal
> with a lovely little dink onto Bartleys head.
> 
> Sacko.wow! Now I understand what people have been saying about
> him...but potentially what a player! Has a fantastic attitude...he
> is never disheartened by his multiple fuckups and is always ready to try
> again.
> 
> Roofe...superb but we couldn't get him in possession enough in areas
> where he could hurt them.
> 
> The Duke..my man of the match. He has such a superb and delicate
> touch and absolutely runs his socks off. He was right in front of us when
> his number went up to be subbed and I saw his shoulders slump for a second
> in disappointment..then he immediately sprinted across the pitch
> clapping the fans and gave Antonsson a good luck embrace. That epitmises
> the magnificent team spirit I saw through all 14 lads who played.
> On 17 Dec 2016 19:11, "{broken-address} Nicholas Armit" <
> arm...@yahoo.com-is-broken.gn.apc.org> wrote:
> 
>> Yeah I thought that about the crowd too. Crazy.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>>> On Dec 17, 2016, at 2:04 PM, wayne callaghan 
>>> 

Re: [LU] Brentford

[nat...@sky.com]

3 valuable points -making it 6 in a week - and we go into Christmas in a play 
off place so I have no real complaintsHaving said that , today was awful with 
barely a shot on target all game. The first half was dire and we thought that 
Monk would really lay into them and send them out all fired up after a half 
when there was a real lack of commitment and skill, but the second half was 
nearly as bad.The general apathy and poor play was as bad as anything seen 
under Evans, Rosler or Redfearn with one big difference, under all those 
managers we would have lost - but today there was a belief in the crowd and 
more  mportantly on the pitch that even if we never found our rythmn etc we 
would not conceed and we would get at least a point/A few volleys from Ayling- 
that went miles over - apart we never really created any chances but there was 
a feeling that we could play all night and they would never score and so there 
could be only one winner.We did up the tempo towards the end and really went 
for it as they reaslied that a 0 0 was the best they could hope for , and , 
sure enough, as the clock ticked down a good cross into the box was well met by 
captian Bartley and he headed home - a great finish for him and a great finish 
to a poor gameSo a win wihtout our top scorer (wood) and our most creative 
player (Hernandez) - a game that will soon be forgotten but oen that shows we 
are genuine contenders for a play off place
Dave


  From: Rob Heath 
 To: [broken-address] Nicholas Armit  
Cc: Leeds List ; {broken-address} Richard Walker 

 Sent: Saturday, 17 December 2016, 19:51
 Subject: Re: [LU] Brentford
   
My first live game of the season (ergo 9 players were making their "debuts"
for me). I was very impressed with how we stuck at it. It was agonising how
many really good ideas and moves just failed to come off, but we never
stopped trying to play football. I think Brentford deserve some credit for
being so tough to crack. A lot of performances were a bit patchy but I
don't think anybody played badly.

The back 5 were superb.

Vieira was also excellent..Phillips mercurial but did a lot of good
things..
but it was noticeable how Bridcutts presence lifted the urgency level.

Dallas had a poor first half but much better second..and made the goal
with a lovely little dink onto Bartleys head.

Sacko.wow! Now I understand what people have been saying about
him...but potentially what a player! Has a fantastic attitude...he
is never disheartened by his multiple fuckups and is always ready to try
again.

Roofe...superb but we couldn't get him in possession enough in areas
where he could hurt them.

The Duke..my man of the match. He has such a superb and delicate
touch and absolutely runs his socks off. He was right in front of us when
his number went up to be subbed and I saw his shoulders slump for a second
in disappointment..then he immediately sprinted across the pitch
clapping the fans and gave Antonsson a good luck embrace. That epitmises
the magnificent team spirit I saw through all 14 lads who played.
On 17 Dec 2016 19:11, "{broken-address} Nicholas Armit" <
arm...@yahoo.com-is-broken.gn.apc.org> wrote:

> Yeah I thought that about the crowd too. Crazy.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Dec 17, 2016, at 2:04 PM, wayne callaghan 
> wrote:
> >
> >
> > For the most part dreadful to watch., but I don't understand why so many
> left the ground with 5 mins plus stoppage time to go, it's like leaving the
> cinema just before the film ends..
> >
> > Ayling worked his bollocks off... we won... we kept a clean sheet ,not
> sure there were any more positives.
> >
> > Wayne
> >
> > Sent from BlueMail<http://www.bluemail.me/r>
> > On 17 Dec 2016, at 16:54, Alec mailto:alec
> m...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> >
> > I don't care how crap we keep playing. I do care that we keep winning. I
> had a hunch we were going to nick this one. Zero shots on target until
> Bartley.
> >
> > Monk is a proper manager.
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> > On 18 Dec 2016, at 3:50 AM, Jim Moran  wrote:
> >
> > 1-0. Bartley.
> >
> > Monk is magic.
> >
> >
> > On Sat, 17 Dec 2016 at 16:44, {broken-address} Richard Walker <
> > richleed...@yahoo.co.uk.is-broken.gn.apc.org> wrote:
> >
> > This is terrible - awful fucking football - no idea
> >
> >
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> >
> >
> > On 17 Dec 2016, at 15:48, {broken-address} Nicholas Armit <
> > arm...@yahoo.com-is-broken.gn.apc.org> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Phillips has to come off
> >
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> >
> > On Dec 17, 2016, at 10:44

Re: [LU] Brentford

[Rob Heath]

My first live game of the season (ergo 9 players were making their "debuts"
for me). I was very impressed with how we stuck at it. It was agonising how
many really good ideas and moves just failed to come off, but we never
stopped trying to play football. I think Brentford deserve some credit for
being so tough to crack. A lot of performances were a bit patchy but I
don't think anybody played badly.

The back 5 were superb.

Vieira was also excellent..Phillips mercurial but did a lot of good
things..
but it was noticeable how Bridcutts presence lifted the urgency level.

Dallas had a poor first half but much better second..and made the goal
with a lovely little dink onto Bartleys head.

Sacko.wow! Now I understand what people have been saying about
him...but potentially what a player! Has a fantastic attitude...he
is never disheartened by his multiple fuckups and is always ready to try
again.

Roofe...superb but we couldn't get him in possession enough in areas
where he could hurt them.

The Duke..my man of the match. He has such a superb and delicate
touch and absolutely runs his socks off. He was right in front of us when
his number went up to be subbed and I saw his shoulders slump for a second
in disappointment..then he immediately sprinted across the pitch
clapping the fans and gave Antonsson a good luck embrace. That epitmises
the magnificent team spirit I saw through all 14 lads who played.
On 17 Dec 2016 19:11, "{broken-address} Nicholas Armit" <
arm...@yahoo.com-is-broken.gn.apc.org> wrote:

> Yeah I thought that about the crowd too. Crazy.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Dec 17, 2016, at 2:04 PM, wayne callaghan 
> wrote:
> >
> >
> > For the most part dreadful to watch., but I don't understand why so many
> left the ground with 5 mins plus stoppage time to go, it's like leaving the
> cinema just before the film ends..
> >
> > Ayling worked his bollocks off... we won... we kept a clean sheet ,not
> sure there were any more positives.
> >
> > Wayne
> >
> > Sent from BlueMail
> > On 17 Dec 2016, at 16:54, Alec mailto:alec
> m...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> >
> > I don't care how crap we keep playing. I do care that we keep winning. I
> had a hunch we were going to nick this one. Zero shots on target until
> Bartley.
> >
> > Monk is a proper manager.
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> > On 18 Dec 2016, at 3:50 AM, Jim Moran  wrote:
> >
> > 1-0. Bartley.
> >
> > Monk is magic.
> >
> >
> > On Sat, 17 Dec 2016 at 16:44, {broken-address} Richard Walker <
> > richleed...@yahoo.co.uk.is-broken.gn.apc.org> wrote:
> >
> > This is terrible - awful fucking football - no idea
> >
> >
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> >
> >
> > On 17 Dec 2016, at 15:48, {broken-address} Nicholas Armit <
> > arm...@yahoo.com-is-broken.gn.apc.org> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Phillips has to come off
> >
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> >
> > On Dec 17, 2016, at 10:44 AM, {broken-address} Nicholas Armit <
> > arm...@yahoo.com-is-broken.gn.apc.org> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Yep lucky there
> >
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> >
> > On Dec 17, 2016, at 10:42 AM, {broken-address} Richard Walker <
> > richleed...@yahoo.co.uk.is-broken.gn.apc.org> wrote:
> >
> >
> > He's worse than poor he's shit.
> >
> >
> > This is really fucking poor ! We have no idea / plan
> >
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> >
> > On 17 Dec 2016, at 15:26, {broken-address} Nicholas Armit <
> > arm...@yahoo.com-is-broken.gn.apc.org> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Phillips is poor
> >
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
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Re: [LU] Brentford

[{broken-address} Nicholas Armit]

Yeah I thought that about the crowd too. Crazy.

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> On Dec 17, 2016, at 2:04 PM, wayne callaghan  wrote:
> 
> 
> For the most part dreadful to watch., but I don't understand why so many left 
> the ground with 5 mins plus stoppage time to go, it's like leaving the cinema 
> just before the film ends..
> 
> Ayling worked his bollocks off... we won... we kept a clean sheet ,not sure 
> there were any more positives.
> 
> Wayne
> 
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> On 17 Dec 2016, at 16:54, Alec mailto:alec...@gmail.com>> 
> wrote:
> 
> I don't care how crap we keep playing. I do care that we keep winning. I had 
> a hunch we were going to nick this one. Zero shots on target until Bartley.
> 
> Monk is a proper manager.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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> On 18 Dec 2016, at 3:50 AM, Jim Moran  wrote:
> 
> 1-0. Bartley.
> 
> Monk is magic.
> 
> 
> On Sat, 17 Dec 2016 at 16:44, {broken-address} Richard Walker <
> richleed...@yahoo.co.uk.is-broken.gn.apc.org> wrote:
> 
> This is terrible - awful fucking football - no idea
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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> On 17 Dec 2016, at 15:48, {broken-address} Nicholas Armit <
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> 
> Phillips has to come off
> 
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> Sent from my iPhone
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> On Dec 17, 2016, at 10:44 AM, {broken-address} Nicholas Armit <
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> Yep lucky there
> 
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> 
> 
> He's worse than poor he's shit.
> 
> 
> This is really fucking poor ! We have no idea / plan
> 
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> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [LU] Brentford

[wayne callaghan]

For the most part dreadful to watch., but I don't understand why so many left 
the ground with 5 mins plus stoppage time to go, it's like leaving the cinema 
just before the film ends..

Ayling worked his bollocks off... we won... we kept a clean sheet ,not sure 
there were any more positives.

Wayne

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On 17 Dec 2016, at 16:54, Alec mailto:alec...@gmail.com>> 
wrote:

I don't care how crap we keep playing. I do care that we keep winning. I had a 
hunch we were going to nick this one. Zero shots on target until Bartley.

Monk is a proper manager.

Sent from my iPhone

 On 18 Dec 2016, at 3:50 AM, Jim Moran  wrote:

 1-0. Bartley.

 Monk is magic.


 On Sat, 17 Dec 2016 at 16:44, {broken-address} Richard Walker <
 richleed...@yahoo.co.uk.is-broken.gn.apc.org> wrote:

 This is terrible - awful fucking football - no idea



 Sent from my iPhone



 On 17 Dec 2016, at 15:48, {broken-address} Nicholas Armit <
 arm...@yahoo.com-is-broken.gn.apc.org> wrote:


 Phillips has to come off


 Sent from my iPhone


 On Dec 17, 2016, at 10:44 AM, {broken-address} Nicholas Armit <
 arm...@yahoo.com-is-broken.gn.apc.org> wrote:


 Yep lucky there


 Sent from my iPhone


 On Dec 17, 2016, at 10:42 AM, {broken-address} Richard Walker <
 richleed...@yahoo.co.uk.is-broken.gn.apc.org> wrote:


 He's worse than poor he's shit.


 This is really fucking poor ! We have no idea / plan


 Sent from my iPhone


 On 17 Dec 2016, at 15:26, {broken-address} Nicholas Armit <
 arm...@yahoo.com-is-broken.gn.apc.org> wrote:


 Phillips is poor


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Re: [LU] Brentford

[Alec]

I don't care how crap we keep playing. I do care that we keep winning. I had a 
hunch we were going to nick this one. Zero shots on target until Bartley. 

Monk is a proper manager. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On 18 Dec 2016, at 3:50 AM, Jim Moran  wrote:
> 
> 1-0. Bartley.
> 
> Monk is magic.
> 
> 
> On Sat, 17 Dec 2016 at 16:44, {broken-address} Richard Walker <
> richleed...@yahoo.co.uk.is-broken.gn.apc.org> wrote:
> 
>> This is terrible - awful fucking football - no idea
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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>>> On 17 Dec 2016, at 15:48, {broken-address} Nicholas Armit <
>> arm...@yahoo.com-is-broken.gn.apc.org> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>>> Phillips has to come off
>> 
>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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 On Dec 17, 2016, at 10:44 AM, {broken-address} Nicholas Armit <
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>> 
>> 
 Yep lucky there
>> 
>> 
 Sent from my iPhone
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> On Dec 17, 2016, at 10:42 AM, {broken-address} Richard Walker <
>> richleed...@yahoo.co.uk.is-broken.gn.apc.org> wrote:
>> 
>> 
> He's worse than poor he's shit.
>> 
>> 
> This is really fucking poor ! We have no idea / plan
>> 
>> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On 17 Dec 2016, at 15:26, {broken-address} Nicholas Armit <
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Re: [LU] Brentford

[{broken-address} Richard Walker]

We're going up

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> On 17 Dec 2016, at 16:50, Jim Moran  wrote:
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> 1-0. Bartley.
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> On Sat, 17 Dec 2016 at 16:44, {broken-address} Richard Walker <
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> 
>> This is terrible - awful fucking football - no idea
>> 
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>>> On 17 Dec 2016, at 15:48, {broken-address} Nicholas Armit <
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>> 
>>> Phillips has to come off
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 On Dec 17, 2016, at 10:44 AM, {broken-address} Nicholas Armit <
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>> 
>> 
 Yep lucky there
>> 
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> On Dec 17, 2016, at 10:42 AM, {broken-address} Richard Walker <
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>> 
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> He's worse than poor he's shit.
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Re: [LU] Brentford

[Jim Moran]

1-0. Bartley.

Monk is magic.


On Sat, 17 Dec 2016 at 16:44, {broken-address} Richard Walker <
richleed...@yahoo.co.uk.is-broken.gn.apc.org> wrote:

> This is terrible - awful fucking football - no idea
>
>
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> > On 17 Dec 2016, at 15:48, {broken-address} Nicholas Armit <
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Re: [LU] Brentford

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This is terrible - awful fucking football - no idea 

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> On 17 Dec 2016, at 15:48, {broken-address} Nicholas Armit 
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>>> This is really fucking poor ! We have no idea / plan
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  wrote:
 
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Phillips has to come off

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Yep lucky there

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He's worse than poor he's shit.

This is really fucking poor ! We have no idea / plan

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Re: [LU] Brentford

[Robinson, Mick]

New Inn was a good call last night, taxi dropped us @ 19:25 and we got two 
pints in before KO as they had loads of bar staff on.



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> 
> Not great but not as awful as some recent games.
> Deserved the point but Brentford were pretty poor especially second half.
> 'Dave' looks to be a cult hero in the making.
> 
> Matt

Due to late working and train delays I only had time for 1 pint before the 
match so, for the first time in ages I was sober - big mistake.

The first half was really dreadful, and we were lucky that Brentford seemed to 
be playing with no attackers so we went in only 1 down.  Their goal was 
dreadful defending from the whole team let the guy run and run. Second half was 
better in most respects, but we still only troubled the keeper 3 times, one of 
which was the goal and the other two belters from Doukara.

Leeds fans in decent voice, especially at half time bantering with the subs 
kicking about.  Started to get a bit restless midway through 2nd half, until 
goal went in and mentalness ensued!  Definitely going to make an effort to get 
to the pub on time next time.

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Re: [LU] Brentford

[Richard Naef]

> 
> Not great but not as awful as some recent games.
> Deserved the point but Brentford were pretty poor especially second half.
> 'Dave' looks to be a cult hero in the making.
> 
> Matt

Due to late working and train delays I only had time for 1 pint before the
match so, for the first time in ages I was sober - big mistake.

The first half was really dreadful, and we were lucky that Brentford seemed
to be playing with no attackers so we went in only 1 down.  Their goal was
dreadful defending from the whole team let the guy run and run. Second half
was better in most respects, but we still only troubled the keeper 3 times,
one of which was the goal and the other two belters from Doukara.

Leeds fans in decent voice, especially at half time bantering with the subs
kicking about.  Started to get a bit restless midway through 2nd half, until
goal went in and mentalness ensued!  Definitely going to make an effort to
get to the pub on time next time.

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Re: [LU] Brentford

[Kevin Lewis (UK SBS)]

It seems clear to me that Antenucci is one of the better players, and Rosler 
needs to find a way to accommodate him in a 4-3-3 somehow, or change the system 
to accommodate the players at his disposal.  I like the pressing game that 
Rosler seems to favour, and would worry that 4-4-2 would make the team too easy 
to pick off in midfield.

Perhaps he could try Antennuci on the left of the 3 up front, with a role where 
he is allowed to wander across between the left wing and inside right 
positions.  Mowatt and Taylor between them could provide width on the left.  
Have an orthodox winger on the other side, so that Berardi is able to stay back 
with the C Backs.  Cooper would be covering the left if Taylor got caught 
forward.
If need be, the same players could switch to 4-4-2 or 4-2-3-1 if it wasn't 
working.

It relies on Mowatt getting a bit of form back and Wood/Antenucci understanding 
that one of them (whoever is closest) has to chase back with the opposition 
right back.  Not sure where that leaves Byram though.








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Re: [LU] Brentford

[Nick Allen]

Agree with pretty much all of that...probably slightly less on the doom and 
gloom side, the two things I'd add, would be that it was the bringing on of 
both Murphy and Antenucci that made the difference...and yes Murphy was high 
wide and handsome with two efforts, but he comes in a poor second to Sam 
Byram's 3 "shots on goal" in about 20 minutes...which were abject and wasteful.

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> On 13 Sep 2015, at 08:32, Richard walker  wrote:
> 
> For me this was a poor game,littered with mistakes and very few shots / goal 
> scoring chances.
> We started with a 4-3-3 formation. How many managers at Leeds in the past 
> have tried this? You can't go looking for a win at home with this formation 
> especially when you consider Byram is no right winger and Woods is not 
> exactly quick and actually not the best target man.
> 
> For the first 30 minutes we had a lot of possession and tried to play 
> football, unfortunately this just highlighted our weaknesses and also the 
> failure of the system. In midfield we played with Adeyemi and Mowatt, who in 
> my opinion when playing together look very pedestrian. They are both one 
> paced and offer very little going forward, Adeyemi would argue he is in the 
> team to break up the play and get the tackles in which to be fair he does at 
> times however what is Mowatt's excuse ? Too fat?
> 
> Dallas and Taylor tried their best to get things going down the left and did 
> force a few corners but not much was happening. At the other end it took 
> Brentford 35 minutes to start playing and it was mainly due to poor play and 
> mistakes from us. Sol Bamba decided that today would be a Bambi on ice 
> performance. Poor back passes and poor control kept putting us under 
> pressure. When your captain is playing like a novice you're going to 
> struggle. 
> 
> On the ball Brentford appeared to be quicker and more decisive. Again I think 
> this might be a reflection of how pedestrian some of our midfielders were in 
> comparison but in Alan Judge they had a tricky left winger who looked a yard 
> quicker than us.
> 
> Their goal was simple pass and move football that carved us apart and it was 
> clear to me that they were better side and would go on to win this 
> comfortably.
> 
> Half-time Rosler changed the line up and formation and all credit to him 
> because I know quite a few managers who would have continued until 53 minutes 
> after the half time bollocking (Simon Grayson for one). Antenucci came on and 
> Mowatt off and we started to play as a 4-4-2 with Antenucci coming deep to 
> pick up the ball.
> 
> It transformed our play and we looked a different team with Antenucci looking 
> dangerous with every touch. Woods got more involved and was unlucky with a 
> deflected shot which hit the post and with the crowd now up for it an 
> equaliser was inevitable. It was also inevitable that Antenucci would get it. 
> He was the difference and his goal showed he can score a bucket load this 
> season with both feet. It wasn't quite as good as the Burnley goal but it was 
> similar and a very well taken, top quality goal.
> 
> Brentford continued to look for the win at the other end and had a few half 
> chances. There was a bit of a melee amongst the players when Judge tried a 
> bit of play acting which didn't go down too well. At the end we had a shout 
> for a penalty when their player used his arm to control the bar. It was a 
> penalty but it would have been harsh on Brentford who over 99 minutes were 
> the better team for me. We relied on Antenucci and didn't look like a team at 
> all. Unbeaten yes but I think there's a lot of work to do.
> 
> Scores:
> 
> Silvestri - 5. Didn't have a lot to do other than pick the ball out of the 
> net and come out quick to intercept some miscalculated back passes. The 
> reason I've marked him low is his kicking which was the worst I've seen since 
> the rule change ruined John Lukic.
> 
> Beradi -6. I think he had a difficult job against MOTM Judge but stuck to his 
> task well.
> 
> Taylor - 7. I thought he did very well. He is getting stronger and rarely 
> comes off worse in 50:50s. I still think he has more to offer in midfield.
> 
> Bamba - 4. I thought his first half performance was his worst since he 
> joined. He played like a pissed up Roque- Junior. Terrible. He did improve 
> second half but we can't afford our captain to have off days like this.
> 
> Cooper - 7. I thought he played well and he needed to because his partner 
> didn't turn up in the first half. Tries to get forward and is actually pretty 
> effective but surely that is the midfield's job ?
> 
> Adeyemi - 5. Limited footballer, pedestrian. Doesn't offer much. I don't 
> think there's room for players like this in a promotion chasing team (are we 
> ?).
> 
> Mowatt - 3. Again he disappointed. I hate the short corners and I hate 
> watching him running through treacle. He's a young lad with a nice left foot 
> but I'm not sure he's going t

Re: [LU] Brentford

[Simon McNally]

I thought this was a really poor game. It was somewhere in the second half 
before we had a shot on target. 
There was no urgency or pace about anything we did first half.
I'm all for giving players and managers time to gel but 6 games in I'm not sure 
what we are getting from rosler that we weren't getting from redfearn. He was a 
bit arsey when asked on the radio whether he regretted not starting antenucci. 
He seems really attached to his 433 and fair play to him for changing it at 
half time but we could have been 3 down by then - we can't afford to only turn 
up for half a game. He also said Mowatt was carrying an injury - why play him 
then if you've got Murphy fit?
I also don't understand why doukara is even in the 18 - does he have a member 
of rosler's family hostage? Last time he came on he looked even more overweight 
and uninterested than before. Why not get Erwin in the squad?
I know people will say we're still unbeaten but we've dropped 6 points already 
against poor teams that will be in the bottom half of the table.

Simon 

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> On 13 Sep 2015, at 08:32, Richard walker  wrote:
> 
> For me this was a poor game,littered with mistakes and very few shots / goal 
> scoring chances.
> We started with a 4-3-3 formation. How many managers at Leeds in the past 
> have tried this? You can't go looking for a win at home with this formation 
> especially when you consider Byram is no right winger and Woods is not 
> exactly quick and actually not the best target man.
> 
> For the first 30 minutes we had a lot of possession and tried to play 
> football, unfortunately this just highlighted our weaknesses and also the 
> failure of the system. In midfield we played with Adeyemi and Mowatt, who in 
> my opinion when playing together look very pedestrian. They are both one 
> paced and offer very little going forward, Adeyemi would argue he is in the 
> team to break up the play and get the tackles in which to be fair he does at 
> times however what is Mowatt's excuse ? Too fat?
> 
> Dallas and Taylor tried their best to get things going down the left and did 
> force a few corners but not much was happening. At the other end it took 
> Brentford 35 minutes to start playing and it was mainly due to poor play and 
> mistakes from us. Sol Bamba decided that today would be a Bambi on ice 
> performance. Poor back passes and poor control kept putting us under 
> pressure. When your captain is playing like a novice you're going to 
> struggle. 
> 
> On the ball Brentford appeared to be quicker and more decisive. Again I think 
> this might be a reflection of how pedestrian some of our midfielders were in 
> comparison but in Alan Judge they had a tricky left winger who looked a yard 
> quicker than us.
> 
> Their goal was simple pass and move football that carved us apart and it was 
> clear to me that they were better side and would go on to win this 
> comfortably.
> 
> Half-time Rosler changed the line up and formation and all credit to him 
> because I know quite a few managers who would have continued until 53 minutes 
> after the half time bollocking (Simon Grayson for one). Antenucci came on and 
> Mowatt off and we started to play as a 4-4-2 with Antenucci coming deep to 
> pick up the ball.
> 
> It transformed our play and we looked a different team with Antenucci looking 
> dangerous with every touch. Woods got more involved and was unlucky with a 
> deflected shot which hit the post and with the crowd now up for it an 
> equaliser was inevitable. It was also inevitable that Antenucci would get it. 
> He was the difference and his goal showed he can score a bucket load this 
> season with both feet. It wasn't quite as good as the Burnley goal but it was 
> similar and a very well taken, top quality goal.
> 
> Brentford continued to look for the win at the other end and had a few half 
> chances. There was a bit of a melee amongst the players when Judge tried a 
> bit of play acting which didn't go down too well. At the end we had a shout 
> for a penalty when their player used his arm to control the bar. It was a 
> penalty but it would have been harsh on Brentford who over 99 minutes were 
> the better team for me. We relied on Antenucci and didn't look like a team at 
> all. Unbeaten yes but I think there's a lot of work to do.
> 
> Scores:
> 
> Silvestri - 5. Didn't have a lot to do other than pick the ball out of the 
> net and come out quick to intercept some miscalculated back passes. The 
> reason I've marked him low is his kicking which was the worst I've seen since 
> the rule change ruined John Lukic.
> 
> Beradi -6. I think he had a difficult job against MOTM Judge but stuck to his 
> task well.
> 
> Taylor - 7. I thought he did very well. He is getting stronger and rarely 
> comes off worse in 50:50s. I still think he has more to offer in midfield.
> 
> Bamba - 4. I thought his first half performance was his worst since he 
> joined. He played like a pissed up Roque- Ju

Re: [LU] Brentford

[Richard walker]

The day was rounded off in the Sports bar  watching scum win and Leeds rugby 
putting in the worst performance for years. Not a great day out.


> On 13 Sep 2015, at 08:32, Richard walker  wrote:
> 
> For me this was a poor game,littered with mistakes and very few shots / goal 
> scoring chances.
> We started with a 4-3-3 formation. How many managers at Leeds in the past 
> have tried this? You can't go looking for a win at home with this formation 
> especially when you consider Byram is no right winger and Woods is not 
> exactly quick and actually not the best target man.
> 
> For the first 30 minutes we had a lot of possession and tried to play 
> football, unfortunately this 
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Re: [LU] Brentford

[davidwoolmer]

4 points wouldn't be a bad haul in the context of our season as long as 3 come 
against Millwall. 

As for tomorrow 4-5-1 all the way for me. We look better playing it and 
Brentford over-ran us in midfield at their place and we horribly lacked cover 
in front of our defence that day. If that keeps things solid and 0-0 for Sharp 
to then come off the bench and win it then lovely. 


  Original Message  
From: nat...@sky.com
Sent: Friday, 6 February 2015 16:30
To: leeds list
Reply To: nat...@sky.com
Subject: Re: [LU] Brentford

Difficult one - on the one hand, don't change a winning team etc, but the 4 5 1 
set up is better suited to play away from home. On top of that Redders has to 
look to reward Sharp for doing exactly what was needed and what he is there for 
last week.Plus despite how well Morison is doing as the one up front he does 
not look like scoring and to win the home games (which we need to do) we need 
to score at least one goal.I agree that Rudy does look much better rampaging 
forward as part of a midfield 5 than he does as a defensive midfielder either 
in a 4 or as part of a 4 2 3 1 alongside Cook.
I worry that of the 3 new loanees, one is likely to start , one is injured and 
out for at least a month and according to Redders the other one is 2 weeks 
training from being part of the squad (although I would not be surprised to see 
him on the bench)
Whatever the case we need 6 or 7 points this week - 3 each in the home games v 
Brentford and Millwall (a 6 pointer on its own) and maybe one point v ReadingI 
suppose 2 draws and a victory over Millwall may not be a bad haul, but the 
sooner we get safe the sooner we can look to next season, or even get all 9 
points and go on a bit of a run to give us at least the hope and optimism of a 
possible, albeit unlikely, play off place.
Looking forward to it
dave
From: Richard Naef 
To: leedslist  
Sent: Friday, 6 February 2015, 15:15
Subject: [LU] Brentford

some talk that we will revert to a 442, with Sharp & Antenucci or Morison
upfront, presumably for Mowatt.  That leaves Cook, Murphy, Austin and Byram
in midfield and I guess means Rudy will be playing a more defensive midfield
role.  Just wonder if it's sensible to change a winning formula (4-5-1)
against a team close to the top?  



ttfn



Richard





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[nat...@sky.com]

Difficult one - on the one hand, don't change a winning team etc, but the 4 5 1 
set up is better suited to play away from home. On top of that Redders has to 
look to reward Sharp for doing exactly what was needed and what he is there for 
last week.Plus despite how well Morison is doing as the one up front he does 
not look like scoring and to win the home games (which we need to do) we need 
to score at least one goal.I agree that Rudy does look much better rampaging 
forward as part of a midfield 5 than he does as a defensive midfielder either 
in a 4 or as part of a 4 2 3 1 alongside Cook.
I worry that of the 3 new loanees, one is likely to start , one is injured and 
out for at least a month and according to Redders the other one is 2 weeks 
training from being part of the squad (although I would not be surprised to see 
him on the bench)
Whatever the case we need 6 or 7 points this week - 3 each in the home games v 
Brentford and Millwall (a 6 pointer on its own) and maybe one point v ReadingI 
suppose 2 draws and a victory over Millwall may not be a bad haul, but the 
sooner we get safe the sooner we can look to next season, or even get all 9 
points and go on a bit of a run to give us at least the hope and optimism of a 
possible, albeit unlikely, play off place.
Looking forward to it
dave
  From: Richard Naef 
 To: leedslist  
 Sent: Friday, 6 February 2015, 15:15
 Subject: [LU] Brentford
   
some talk that we will revert to a 442, with Sharp & Antenucci or Morison
upfront, presumably for Mowatt.  That leaves Cook, Murphy, Austin and Byram
in midfield and I guess means Rudy will be playing a more defensive midfield
role.  Just wonder if it's sensible to change a winning formula (4-5-1)
against a team close to the top?  

 

ttfn

 

Richard

 

 

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Re: [LU] Brentford

[Phill Shields]

Thanks Dave, pretty much how it sounded on the radio.

Apparently Redders didn't travel with team which is worrying.

MOT

On 27 Sep 2014 18:03, davidwool...@gmail.com wrote:
Pretty awful all round.

In a vain bid for bright sides, Silvestri was excellent. Warnock put the 
proverbial shift in. Austin at least make a few lung busting attempts to join 
the attack.

Doukara was god awful. Who knows how he didn't get subbed.

In general far too passive, playing our football far too deep in ineffective 
positions in our own half, such that when it broke down we put ourselves under 
pressure. Balls forward were long and straight and easy to defend.

Didn't close them down. The very few occasions we did Brentford looked 
flustered.

Substitutions were poor, unimaginative and didn't do anything to change the 
game.

Those are the plus points.

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  Original Message
From: Richard Walker
Sent: Saturday, 27 September 2014 17:39
To: Richard Naef
Cc: leedslist
Subject: Re: [LU] Brentford

Very disappointing result. Darko obviously bored the poor fuckers into a dismal 
performance.

I am assuming this is the occasional one step backwards that Reddrs warned us 
about.

Still ruined my weekend . Will never get my head around that we've been 
comprehensively beaten by fucking Brentford.

I'm going to the pub for some Leeds pale ale. Much of it.

> On 27 Sep 2014, at 17:02, "Richard Naef"  
> wrote:
>
> by the sounds of it, as bad as we have played since Millwall.
>
>
>
> ttfn
>
>
>
> Richard
>
>
>
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Re: [LU] Brentford

[davidwoolmer]

Pretty awful all round. 

In a vain bid for bright sides, Silvestri was excellent. Warnock put the 
proverbial shift in. Austin at least make a few lung busting attempts to join 
the attack. 

Doukara was god awful. Who knows how he didn't get subbed. 

In general far too passive, playing our football far too deep in ineffective 
positions in our own half, such that when it broke down we put ourselves under 
pressure. Balls forward were long and straight and easy to defend. 

Didn't close them down. The very few occasions we did Brentford looked 
flustered. 

Substitutions were poor, unimaginative and didn't do anything to change the 
game. 

Those are the plus points.

Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone.
  Original Message  
From: Richard Walker
Sent: Saturday, 27 September 2014 17:39
To: Richard Naef
Cc: leedslist
Subject: Re: [LU] Brentford

Very disappointing result. Darko obviously bored the poor fuckers into a dismal 
performance.

I am assuming this is the occasional one step backwards that Reddrs warned us 
about.

Still ruined my weekend . Will never get my head around that we've been 
comprehensively beaten by fucking Brentford.

I'm going to the pub for some Leeds pale ale. Much of it.

> On 27 Sep 2014, at 17:02, "Richard Naef"  
> wrote:
> 
> by the sounds of it, as bad as we have played since Millwall.
> 
> 
> 
> ttfn
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [LU] Brentford

[Richard Walker]

Very disappointing result. Darko obviously bored the poor fuckers into a dismal 
performance.

I am assuming this is the occasional one step backwards that Reddrs warned us 
about.

Still ruined my weekend . Will never get my head around that we've been 
comprehensively beaten by fucking Brentford.

I'm going to the pub for some Leeds pale ale. Much of it.

> On 27 Sep 2014, at 17:02, "Richard Naef"  
> wrote:
> 
> by the sounds of it, as bad as we have played since Millwall.
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> 
> ttfn
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> 
> Richard
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Re: [LU] Brentford

[Jim Moran]

Redfearn back!

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> On 27 Sep 2014, at 17:02, Richard Naef  
> wrote:
> 
> by the sounds of it, as bad as we have played since Millwall.
> 
> 
> 
> ttfn
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
> 
> 
> 
> 
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