subject:"Re\: \[LU\] Sheff Utd"

Re: [LU] SHeff Utd

2019-02-25 Thread Jim Moran

I’m regretting not getting the half season ticket myself, but I miss the
craic more than the football.

If any ST holders or Gold Members (heh) wants to get me a ticket for any
games I’d be really grateful. Only seen us play twice this season.

On Mon, 25 Feb 2019 at 17:33, Richard Walker 
wrote:

> its no laughing matter - I've shelled out £60 this year on Silver an Gold
> memberships just for the right to buy tickets. Yeah I should have got a
> season ticket but with games being played at ridiculous days and times I
> feel I need to the right to tell them to fuck off if I want.
>
> Good news is I've got Blades tickets.
>
> On Monday, 25 February 2019, 16:44:35 GMT, Simon McNally <
> simon_mcna...@sky.com> wrote:
>
>
> Made me laugh out loud!
> Post of the year!
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On 25 Feb 2019, at 08:12, Jim Moran  wrote:
> >
> > Gold member? Is this some kind of joke from when Mini Me was a Leeds fan?
> >
> > On Mon, 25 Feb 2019 at 06:21, Richard Walker via Leedslist <
> > leedslist@gn.apc.org> wrote:
> >
> >> up early and waiting for tickets to come online. I'm not missing out on
> >> this one. Had to watch Bolton on the internet because I messed up with
> >> tickets. Wiggy got me tickets for Friday night (WBA) and Ive now
> upgraded
> >> to Gold membership. I wonder how may Gold members they are now ?
> >>On Sunday, 24 February 2019, 21:37:22 GMT, Richard Walker via
> >> Leedslist  wrote:
> >>
> >>  cheers MIck.
> >>On Sunday, 24 February 2019, 19:55:53 GMT, Robinson, Mick <
> >> mick.robin...@miq.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> https://www.leedsunited.com/news/ticket-news/24576/tickets-sheffield-united-h
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> From: Leedslist  On Behalf Of Richard
> >> Walker via Leedslist
> >> Sent: 24 February 2019 19:36
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> >> Subject: [LU] SHeff Utd
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> >> Does anyone know if Sheff Utd tickets go on sale tomorrow ?
> >> No mention on the website but given match is only 2 and half weeks away
> I
> >> thought it would be tomorrow ?
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Re: [LU] SHeff Utd

2019-02-25 Thread Richard Walker via Leedslist

 its no laughing matter - I've shelled out £60 this year on Silver an Gold 
memberships just for the right to buy tickets. Yeah I should have got a season 
ticket but with games being played at ridiculous days and times I feel I need 
to the right to tell them to fuck off if I want. 
Good news is I've got Blades tickets. 
On Monday, 25 February 2019, 16:44:35 GMT, Simon McNally 
 wrote:  
 
 Made me laugh out loud!
Post of the year!

Sent from my iPhone

> On 25 Feb 2019, at 08:12, Jim Moran  wrote:
> 
> Gold member? Is this some kind of joke from when Mini Me was a Leeds fan?
> 
> On Mon, 25 Feb 2019 at 06:21, Richard Walker via Leedslist <
> leedslist@gn.apc.org> wrote:
> 
>> up early and waiting for tickets to come online. I'm not missing out on
>> this one. Had to watch Bolton on the internet because I messed up with
>> tickets. Wiggy got me tickets for Friday night (WBA) and Ive now upgraded
>> to Gold membership. I wonder how may Gold members they are now ?
>>    On Sunday, 24 February 2019, 21:37:22 GMT, Richard Walker via
>> Leedslist  wrote:
>> 
>>  cheers MIck.
>>    On Sunday, 24 February 2019, 19:55:53 GMT, Robinson, Mick <
>> mick.robin...@miq.com> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> https://www.leedsunited.com/news/ticket-news/24576/tickets-sheffield-united-h
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> From: Leedslist  On Behalf Of Richard
>> Walker via Leedslist
>> Sent: 24 February 2019 19:36
>> To: Leeds List 
>> Subject: [LU] SHeff Utd
>> 
>> [EXTERNAL]
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>> 
>> Does anyone know if Sheff Utd tickets go on sale tomorrow ?
>> No mention on the website but given match is only 2 and half weeks away I
>> thought it would be tomorrow ?
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Re: [LU] SHeff Utd

2019-02-25 Thread Simon McNally

Made me laugh out loud!
Post of the year!

Sent from my iPhone

> On 25 Feb 2019, at 08:12, Jim Moran  wrote:
> 
> Gold member? Is this some kind of joke from when Mini Me was a Leeds fan?
> 
> On Mon, 25 Feb 2019 at 06:21, Richard Walker via Leedslist <
> leedslist@gn.apc.org> wrote:
> 
>> up early and waiting for tickets to come online. I'm not missing out on
>> this one. Had to watch Bolton on the internet because I messed up with
>> tickets. Wiggy got me tickets for Friday night (WBA) and Ive now upgraded
>> to Gold membership. I wonder how may Gold members they are now ?
>>On Sunday, 24 February 2019, 21:37:22 GMT, Richard Walker via
>> Leedslist  wrote:
>> 
>>  cheers MIck.
>>On Sunday, 24 February 2019, 19:55:53 GMT, Robinson, Mick <
>> mick.robin...@miq.com> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> https://www.leedsunited.com/news/ticket-news/24576/tickets-sheffield-united-h
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> From: Leedslist  On Behalf Of Richard
>> Walker via Leedslist
>> Sent: 24 February 2019 19:36
>> To: Leeds List 
>> Subject: [LU] SHeff Utd
>> 
>> [EXTERNAL]
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>> 
>> Does anyone know if Sheff Utd tickets go on sale tomorrow ?
>> No mention on the website but given match is only 2 and half weeks away I
>> thought it would be tomorrow ?
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Re: [LU] SHeff Utd

2019-02-25 Thread Jim Moran

Gold member? Is this some kind of joke from when Mini Me was a Leeds fan?

On Mon, 25 Feb 2019 at 06:21, Richard Walker via Leedslist <
leedslist@gn.apc.org> wrote:

>  up early and waiting for tickets to come online. I'm not missing out on
> this one. Had to watch Bolton on the internet because I messed up with
> tickets. Wiggy got me tickets for Friday night (WBA) and Ive now upgraded
> to Gold membership. I wonder how may Gold members they are now ?
> On Sunday, 24 February 2019, 21:37:22 GMT, Richard Walker via
> Leedslist  wrote:
>
>   cheers MIck.
> On Sunday, 24 February 2019, 19:55:53 GMT, Robinson, Mick <
> mick.robin...@miq.com> wrote:
>
>
> https://www.leedsunited.com/news/ticket-news/24576/tickets-sheffield-united-h
>
>
>
> From: Leedslist  On Behalf Of Richard
> Walker via Leedslist
> Sent: 24 February 2019 19:36
> To: Leeds List 
> Subject: [LU] SHeff Utd
>
> [EXTERNAL]
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> Does anyone know if Sheff Utd tickets go on sale tomorrow ?
> No mention on the website but given match is only 2 and half weeks away I
> thought it would be tomorrow ?
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Re: [LU] SHeff Utd

2019-02-24 Thread Richard Walker via Leedslist

 up early and waiting for tickets to come online. I'm not missing out on this 
one. Had to watch Bolton on the internet because I messed up with tickets. 
Wiggy got me tickets for Friday night (WBA) and Ive now upgraded to Gold 
membership. I wonder how may Gold members they are now ?
On Sunday, 24 February 2019, 21:37:22 GMT, Richard Walker via Leedslist 
 wrote:  
 
  cheers MIck. 
    On Sunday, 24 February 2019, 19:55:53 GMT, Robinson, Mick 
 wrote:  
 
 https://www.leedsunited.com/news/ticket-news/24576/tickets-sheffield-united-h



From: Leedslist  On Behalf Of Richard Walker via 
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Subject: [LU] SHeff Utd

[EXTERNAL]


Does anyone know if Sheff Utd tickets go on sale tomorrow ?
No mention on the website but given match is only 2 and half weeks away I 
thought it would be tomorrow ?
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Re: [LU] SHeff Utd

2019-02-24 Thread Richard Walker via Leedslist

 cheers MIck. 
On Sunday, 24 February 2019, 19:55:53 GMT, Robinson, Mick 
 wrote:  
 
 https://www.leedsunited.com/news/ticket-news/24576/tickets-sheffield-united-h



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Does anyone know if Sheff Utd tickets go on sale tomorrow ?
No mention on the website but given match is only 2 and half weeks away I 
thought it would be tomorrow ?
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Re: [LU] SHeff Utd

2019-02-24 Thread Robinson, Mick

https://www.leedsunited.com/news/ticket-news/24576/tickets-sheffield-united-h

From: Leedslist  On Behalf Of Richard Walker via 
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Subject: [LU] SHeff Utd

[EXTERNAL]

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No mention on the website but given match is only 2 and half weeks away I 
thought it would be tomorrow ?
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Re: [LU] SHeff Utd

2019-02-24 Thread Ted

I read an article last Thursday on the Official site saying they go on sale
tomorrow? It didn't say a time though.
 Strange if the article has gone, it was in the "News" section?

Ted.


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> No mention on the website but given match is only 2 and half weeks away I
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Re: [LU] Sheff Utd

2017-10-29 Thread {broken-address} Richard Walker

Have to agree. 
We were 1 down when there was supposed to be some sort of applause on 4 
minutes. Guy behind me shouts 'Fuck Toby, we're one-nil down' - made me laugh 
anyway. 

  From: Michael Benjamin <m...@myray.com>
 To: "nat...@sky.com" <nat...@sky.com>; {broken-address} 
<seanscr...@aol.com-is-broken.gn.apc.org>; "richleed...@yahoo.co.uk" 
<richleed...@yahoo.co.uk>; "leedslist@gn.apc.org" <leedslist@gn.apc.org> 
 Sent: Saturday, 28 October 2017, 17:40
 Subject: RE: [LU] Sheff Utd

I am sorry about your niece. 
I think the club should be involved in the community -- and should take a high 
profile. This feels very different though.  If you are going to give, do it 
anonymously; that is true charity. This reeked of PR management and 
exploitation of a tragedy.  Sure if the kid wanted to go out on the pitch then 
do it-- but why tell the world who he is and what he has? 
The club is rich enough to donate, and so are the players.And there are enough 
executive boxes to put the bight on.  If the parents want to set up a charity 
fine, then do so. Nevertheless, this all had a touchy-feely PR spin; I really 
did not like it. And I am not saying don't help the kid. I am saying it gave me 
a bad taste. 
Head long into  another banning? 

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Subject: Re: [LU] Sheff Utd

That first paragraph is spot on - good to see the club playing  part in the 
community etc but what happens on the pitch has got to be the first and main 
priority - all the rest is just trimmings I feel for the lad and his parents (I 
lost my 6 year old neice a year ago after a long and painful illness) and it is 
good that the club and players are helping them BUT not when it may be to the 
detriment of what happens where it counts as far as LUFC goes DavePS great to 
see the u17s join the u20s as WORLD CHAMPIONS  - lets hope the Premier League 
teams do not ruin these lads careers by insisting on buying foreign players 
rather than giving the youngsters a chance. Great comeback from 2 down. Who 
knows, maybe , just maybe we will have a first team in Qatar or wherever that 
can genuinely compete

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 Sent: Saturday, 28 October 2017, 16:41
 Subject: Re: [LU] Sheff Utd

A couple of thoughts:

Christiansen has complained that the players' heads were still in the dressing 
room when the first goal went in. Has it crossed his mind at all that making 
the entire build up to kick-off about Toby, this terribly ill kid, complete 
with your central defender/captain carrying that kid out of the tunnel prior to 
kick off possibly distracted the players (and Cooper in particular) from 
getting their heads right for a really aggressive, tough Yorkshire derby?  I am 
all for the club getting involved with local charities, and I like the Russell 
Crowe "All Leeds Aren't We?" Twitter video for Toby, but I thought the 
pre-match stuff perhaps went a bit too far, and was a clear distraction to the 
players. Our players have a hard time being aggressive at the best of times. 
That build up virtually guaranteed they wouldn't be focused at kick-off.

As far as the rest of the game, well, I've been saying it since very early in 
the season: we are not aggressive enough, particularly in midfield. Even in the 
games we were winning in August and September, our midfielders in particular 
were being muscled off the ball too easily. Pass and move football is very 
difficult to play in the Championship if your players lack the physical 
strength and attitude to hold off a challenger prior to releasing the ball. We 
are crying out for a Roy Keane/Patrick Vieira type of midfield general (or if 
you prefer, a Billy Bremner/Johnny Giles/David Batty/Olivier Dacourt type). 
Someone who can receive a pass, hold off a challenger and then play a good, 
accurate pass to the feet of a teammate, while also being able to put in a few 
crunching, intimidating tackles early in the game to make the opposition 
players scared to be on the ball. I do not think we have any players remotely 
like that in our squad. Ronaldo Vieira is the closest. Buying someone to fill
  that role should be our January transfer priority.

In the meantime, we also have a distinct lack of height in midfield, which 
means that when the opposition press our defence, forcing Lonergan to kick it 
long, we stand almost no chance of winning the resulting aerial duels, I think 
it's worth thinking about a 3-2-4-1 formation that would at least mitigate some 
of these factors. I would plump for Lonergan in goal (Wiedwald appears to be a 
physical coward whose rel

Re: [LU] Sheff Utd

2017-10-28 Thread Richard Naef

Dropping Hernandez begin Alioski as an impact sun is quite a big call. I think 
despite the pesimists we have the strongest squad for years, just maybe waiting 
to get the best combination and TC needs more time to his ideas properly over 
in training.

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Subject: Re: [LU] Sheff Utd
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I see what you mean.

I should have said the final two out of Saiz, Hernandez, Phillips, Roofe, 
Alioski (and Cibicki, who I forgot was even in our squad).  For the record, I'd 
take Saiz and Phillips or Roofe to play behind Lasogga, with Alioski available 
as an impact sub if necessary.

Also for the record, unless the team gets more aggressive, I'm pretty sure we 
could play 13 or 14 against the 11 of Sheffield United last night and still 
lose.

Cheers!

Sean

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Sent: Sat, Oct 28, 2017 2:41 pm
Subject: Re: [LU] Sheff Utd

Actually - it seems to me you have choosen 14 players.  If we cant beat them 
with quality, we will take them with our numbers!  The fact that you call it 
3-2-4-1 will probably not be enough to convice the match officials…..

Lonergan
Cooper - Jansson - Pennington
Ayling - Dallas
Viera - Shaughnessy
Saiz - Henrnadez - Phillips - Roofe - Alioski
Lasogga

e.

On 28. Oct 2017, at 19:29, seanscr...@aol.com wrote:

Huh? Perhaps I wasn't clear enough. I said 3-2-4-1 That's 10 outfield players. 
Including a keeper, that's 11.

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I am sure we would be able to win some matches with 13 players on the field!

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> 28. okt. 2017 kl. 17:40 skrev {broken-address} 
> <seanscr...@aol.com-is-broken.gn.apc.org>:
>
>
I think it's worth thinking about a 3-2-4-1 formation that would at least 
mitigate some of these factors. I would plump for Lonergan in goal (Wiedwald 
appears to be a physical coward whose reluctance to put his body on the line 
for the team has directly led to at least two goals.) As a defensive three I'd 
go with Cooper, Jansson (we desperately need him back to his imperious best) 
and Pennington. At right wing-back I'd go for Ayling, who actually looks quite 
useful coming forward. Left-wing back is a bit harder, but I'd go for Dallas to 
inject a bit of British aggression. defensive central midfielders I'd go with 
Vieira and Shaughnessy.
>
> The four more advanced midfielders are tough choices. Saiz is a must. Against 
> teams where we might expect to see more of the ball, I'd probably go with 
> Hernandez, Phillips, Roofe and Alioski. If we're under the cosh, perhaps I'd 
> put Klich in. Up front I suppose I'd go with Lasogga,

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Re: [LU] Sheff Utd

2017-10-28 Thread {broken-address}

I see what you mean.

I should have said the final two out of Saiz, Hernandez, Phillips, Roofe, 
Alioski (and Cibicki, who I forgot was even in our squad).  For the record, I'd 
take Saiz and Phillips or Roofe to play behind Lasogga, with Alioski available 
as an impact sub if necessary. 

Also for the record, unless the team gets more aggressive, I'm pretty sure we 
could play 13 or 14 against the 11 of Sheffield United last night and still 
lose.

Cheers!

Sean

-Original Message-
From: Einar S. <einar.karlm...@gmail.com>
To: seanscribe <seanscr...@aol.com>
Cc: {broken-address} <seanscr...@aol.com-is-broken.gn.apc.org>; leedslist 
<leedslist@gn.apc.org>
Sent: Sat, Oct 28, 2017 2:41 pm
Subject: Re: [LU] Sheff Utd

Actually - it seems to me you have choosen 14 players.  If we cant beat them 
with quality, we will take them with our numbers!  The fact that you call it 
3-2-4-1 will probably not be enough to convice the match officials…..

Lonergan
Cooper - Jansson - Pennington
Ayling - Dallas
Viera - Shaughnessy
Saiz - Henrnadez - Phillips - Roofe - Alioski
Lasogga

e.

On 28. Oct 2017, at 19:29, seanscr...@aol.com wrote:

Huh? Perhaps I wasn't clear enough. I said 3-2-4-1 That's 10 outfield players. 
Including a keeper, that's 11.

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To: {broken-address} <seanscr...@aol.com-is-broken.gn.apc.org>
Cc: leedslist <leedslist@gn.apc.org>
Sent: Sat, Oct 28, 2017 12:51 pm
Subject: Re: [LU] Sheff Utd

I am sure we would be able to win some matches with 13 players on the field!

Sent in great haste from my iPhone

> 28. okt. 2017 kl. 17:40 skrev {broken-address} 
> <seanscr...@aol.com-is-broken.gn.apc.org>:
> 
> 
I think it's worth thinking about a 3-2-4-1 formation that would at least 
mitigate some of these factors. I would plump for Lonergan in goal (Wiedwald 
appears to be a physical coward whose reluctance to put his body on the line 
for the team has directly led to at least two goals.) As a defensive three I'd 
go with Cooper, Jansson (we desperately need him back to his imperious best) 
and Pennington. At right wing-back I'd go for Ayling, who actually looks quite 
useful coming forward. Left-wing back is a bit harder, but I'd go for Dallas to 
inject a bit of British aggression. defensive central midfielders I'd go with 
Vieira and Shaughnessy. 
> 
> The four more advanced midfielders are tough choices. Saiz is a must. Against 
> teams where we might expect to see more of the ball, I'd probably go with 
> Hernandez, Phillips, Roofe and Alioski. If we're under the cosh, perhaps I'd 
> put Klich in. Up front I suppose I'd go with Lasogga, 

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Re: [LU] Sheff Utd

2017-10-28 Thread Einar S.

Actually - it seems to me you have choosen 14 players.  If we cant beat them 
with quality, we will take them with our numbers!  The fact that you call it 
3-2-4-1 will probably not be enough to convice the match officials…..

Lonergan
Cooper - Jansson - Pennington
Ayling - Dallas
Viera - Shaughnessy
Saiz - Henrnadez - Phillips - Roofe - Alioski
Lasogga

e.

> On 28. Oct 2017, at 19:29, seanscr...@aol.com wrote:
> 
> Huh? Perhaps I wasn't clear enough. I said 3-2-4-1 That's 10 outfield 
> players. Including a keeper, that's 11.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Einar Solheim <einar.karlm...@gmail.com>
> To: {broken-address} <seanscr...@aol.com-is-broken.gn.apc.org>
> Cc: leedslist <leedslist@gn.apc.org>
> Sent: Sat, Oct 28, 2017 12:51 pm
> Subject: Re: [LU] Sheff Utd
> 
> I am sure we would be able to win some matches with 13 players on the field!
> 
> Sent in great haste from my iPhone
> 
> > 28. okt. 2017 kl. 17:40 skrev {broken-address} <seanscr...@aol.com 
> > <mailto:seanscr...@aol.com>-is-broken.gn.apc.org>:
> > 
> > 
> I think it's worth thinking about a 3-2-4-1 formation that would at least 
> mitigate some of these factors. I would plump for Lonergan in goal (Wiedwald 
> appears to be a physical coward whose reluctance to put his body on the line 
> for the team has directly led to at least two goals.) As a defensive three 
> I'd go with Cooper, Jansson (we desperately need him back to his imperious 
> best) and Pennington. At right wing-back I'd go for Ayling, who actually 
> looks quite useful coming forward. Left-wing back is a bit harder, but I'd go 
> for Dallas to inject a bit of British aggression. defensive central 
> midfielders I'd go with Vieira and Shaughnessy. 
> > 
> > The four more advanced midfielders are tough choices. Saiz is a must. 
> > Against teams where we might expect to see more of the ball, I'd probably 
> > go with Hernandez, Phillips, Roofe and Alioski. If we're under the cosh, 
> > perhaps I'd put Klich in. Up front I suppose I'd go with Lasogga, 
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Re: [LU] Sheff Utd

2017-10-28 Thread {broken-address}

Huh? Perhaps I wasn't clear enough. I said 3-2-4-1 That's 10 outfield players. 
Including a keeper, that's 11.



-Original Message-
From: Einar Solheim <einar.karlm...@gmail.com>
To: {broken-address} <seanscr...@aol.com-is-broken.gn.apc.org>
Cc: leedslist <leedslist@gn.apc.org>
Sent: Sat, Oct 28, 2017 12:51 pm
Subject: Re: [LU] Sheff Utd

I am sure we would be able to win some matches with 13 players on the field!

Sent in great haste from my iPhone

> 28. okt. 2017 kl. 17:40 skrev {broken-address} 
> <seanscr...@aol.com-is-broken.gn.apc.org>:
> 
> A couple of thoughts:
> 
> 
> Christiansen has complained that the players' heads were still in the 
> dressing room when the first goal went in. Has it crossed his mind at all 
> that making the entire build up to kick-off about Toby, this terribly ill 
> kid, complete with your central defender/captain carrying that kid out of the 
> tunnel prior to kick off possibly distracted the players (and Cooper in 
> particular) from getting their heads right for a really aggressive, tough 
> Yorkshire derby?  I am all for the club getting involved with local 
> charities, and I like the Russell Crowe "All Leeds Aren't We?" Twitter video 
> for Toby, but I thought the pre-match stuff perhaps went a bit too far, and 
> was a clear distraction to the players. Our players have a hard time being 
> aggressive at the best of times. That build up virtually guaranteed they 
> wouldn't be focused at kick-off.
> 
> 
> As far as the rest of the game, well, I've been saying it since very early in 
> the season: we are not aggressive enough, particularly in midfield. Even in 
> the games we were winning in August and September, our midfielders in 
> particular were being muscled off the ball too easily. Pass and move football 
> is very difficult to play in the Championship if your players lack the 
> physical strength and attitude to hold off a challenger prior to releasing 
> the ball. We are crying out for a Roy Keane/Patrick Vieira type of midfield 
> general (or if you prefer, a Billy Bremner/Johnny Giles/David Batty/Olivier 
> Dacourt type). Someone who can receive a pass, hold off a challenger and then 
> play a good, accurate pass to the feet of a teammate, while also being able 
> to put in a few crunching, intimidating tackles early in the game to make the 
> opposition players scared to be on the ball. I do not think we have any 
> players remotely like that in our squad. Ronaldo Vieira is the closest. 
> Buying someo
 ne to fi
 ll
>  that role should be our January transfer priority.
> 
> 
> In the meantime, we also have a distinct lack of height in midfield, which 
> means that when the opposition press our defence, forcing Lonergan to kick it 
> long, we stand almost no chance of winning the resulting aerial duels, I 
> think it's worth thinking about a 3-2-4-1 formation that would at least 
> mitigate some of these factors. I would plump for Lonergan in goal (Wiedwald 
> appears to be a physical coward whose reluctance to put his body on the line 
> for the team has directly led to at least two goals.) As a defensive three 
> I'd go with Cooper, Jansson (we desperately need him back to his imperious 
> best) and Pennington. At right wing-back I'd go for Ayling, who actually 
> looks quite useful coming forward. Left-wing back is a bit harder, but I'd go 
> for Dallas to inject a bit of British aggression. I'm willing to listen to 
> arguments for Berardi, I'm just not sure of his qualities going forward. 
> Anita doesn't impress me at all. Too lightweight. As the two defensive 
> central midfield
 ers I'd 
 go
>  with Vieira and Shaughnessy. The latter was a midfielder at Reading, is a 
> decent passer of the ball and, crucially, is 6'3" tall. It would be his job 
> to win every high ball pumped into the middle of the park.
> 
> 
> The four more advanced midfielders are tough choices. Saiz is a must. He has 
> the right attitude and almost got us a point on his own yesterday. The other 
> options - Phillips, Alioski, Klich, Hernandez, Roofe - all have their 
> weaknesses. Against teams where we might expect to see more of the ball, I'd 
> probably go with Hernandez, Phillips, Roofe and Alioski. If we're under the 
> cosh, perhaps I'd put Klich in. Up front I suppose I'd go with Lasogga, only 
> because there are no other options. A couple of games ago when Grot came on 
> as a sub the commentator said something about him being a very versatile 
> player, and I immediately thought, "Yes, he can play in a number of positions 
> and not score in any of them." 
> 
> 
> This team would feature six tall outfield players, so I would be playing for 
> every single set-piece possible, then getting Hernandez to s

Re: [LU] Sheff Utd

2017-10-28 Thread Einar Solheim

I am sure we would be able to win some matches with 13 players on the field!

Sent in great haste from my iPhone

> 28. okt. 2017 kl. 17:40 skrev {broken-address} 
> :
> 
> A couple of thoughts:
> 
> 
> Christiansen has complained that the players' heads were still in the 
> dressing room when the first goal went in. Has it crossed his mind at all 
> that making the entire build up to kick-off about Toby, this terribly ill 
> kid, complete with your central defender/captain carrying that kid out of the 
> tunnel prior to kick off possibly distracted the players (and Cooper in 
> particular) from getting their heads right for a really aggressive, tough 
> Yorkshire derby?  I am all for the club getting involved with local 
> charities, and I like the Russell Crowe "All Leeds Aren't We?" Twitter video 
> for Toby, but I thought the pre-match stuff perhaps went a bit too far, and 
> was a clear distraction to the players. Our players have a hard time being 
> aggressive at the best of times. That build up virtually guaranteed they 
> wouldn't be focused at kick-off.
> 
> 
> As far as the rest of the game, well, I've been saying it since very early in 
> the season: we are not aggressive enough, particularly in midfield. Even in 
> the games we were winning in August and September, our midfielders in 
> particular were being muscled off the ball too easily. Pass and move football 
> is very difficult to play in the Championship if your players lack the 
> physical strength and attitude to hold off a challenger prior to releasing 
> the ball. We are crying out for a Roy Keane/Patrick Vieira type of midfield 
> general (or if you prefer, a Billy Bremner/Johnny Giles/David Batty/Olivier 
> Dacourt type). Someone who can receive a pass, hold off a challenger and then 
> play a good, accurate pass to the feet of a teammate, while also being able 
> to put in a few crunching, intimidating tackles early in the game to make the 
> opposition players scared to be on the ball. I do not think we have any 
> players remotely like that in our squad. Ronaldo Vieira is the closest. 
> Buying someone to fi
 ll
>  that role should be our January transfer priority.
> 
> 
> In the meantime, we also have a distinct lack of height in midfield, which 
> means that when the opposition press our defence, forcing Lonergan to kick it 
> long, we stand almost no chance of winning the resulting aerial duels, I 
> think it's worth thinking about a 3-2-4-1 formation that would at least 
> mitigate some of these factors. I would plump for Lonergan in goal (Wiedwald 
> appears to be a physical coward whose reluctance to put his body on the line 
> for the team has directly led to at least two goals.) As a defensive three 
> I'd go with Cooper, Jansson (we desperately need him back to his imperious 
> best) and Pennington. At right wing-back I'd go for Ayling, who actually 
> looks quite useful coming forward. Left-wing back is a bit harder, but I'd go 
> for Dallas to inject a bit of British aggression. I'm willing to listen to 
> arguments for Berardi, I'm just not sure of his qualities going forward. 
> Anita doesn't impress me at all. Too lightweight. As the two defensive 
> central midfielders I'd 
 go
>  with Vieira and Shaughnessy. The latter was a midfielder at Reading, is a 
> decent passer of the ball and, crucially, is 6'3" tall. It would be his job 
> to win every high ball pumped into the middle of the park.
> 
> 
> The four more advanced midfielders are tough choices. Saiz is a must. He has 
> the right attitude and almost got us a point on his own yesterday. The other 
> options - Phillips, Alioski, Klich, Hernandez, Roofe - all have their 
> weaknesses. Against teams where we might expect to see more of the ball, I'd 
> probably go with Hernandez, Phillips, Roofe and Alioski. If we're under the 
> cosh, perhaps I'd put Klich in. Up front I suppose I'd go with Lasogga, only 
> because there are no other options. A couple of games ago when Grot came on 
> as a sub the commentator said something about him being a very versatile 
> player, and I immediately thought, "Yes, he can play in a number of positions 
> and not score in any of them." 
> 
> 
> This team would feature six tall outfield players, so I would be playing for 
> every single set-piece possible, then getting Hernandez to swing the ball 
> into the area for those guys to get their heads on it. If we need a goal in 
> the last ten, pull one of the shorties off and put Grot on. That way we'd 
> have seven 6-foot-plus players jockeying for space in the opposition's 
> penalty area. 
> 
> 
> I also wonder if the club has a sports psychologist. We do not play with 
> enough aggression. Somehow, that must change if we are to achieve anything 
> this season.
> 
> 
> MOT
> 
> 
> Sean
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: {broken-address} Richard Walker 
> 
> To: leedslist

Re: [LU] Sheff Utd

2017-10-28 Thread {broken-address} Nicholas Armit

 Russell Crowe could have stumped up the lot surely.
On Saturday, October 28, 2017, 12:41:12 PM EDT, Michael Benjamin 
<m...@myray.com> wrote:  
 
 I am sorry about your niece. 
I think the club should be involved in the community -- and should take a high 
profile. This feels very different though.  If you are going to give, do it 
anonymously; that is true charity. This reeked of PR management and 
exploitation of a tragedy.  Sure if the kid wanted to go out on the pitch then 
do it-- but why tell the world who he is and what he has? 
The club is rich enough to donate, and so are the players.And there are enough 
executive boxes to put the bight on.  If the parents want to set up a charity 
fine, then do so. Nevertheless, this all had a touchy-feely PR spin; I really 
did not like it. And I am not saying don't help the kid. I am saying it gave me 
a bad taste. 
Head long into  another banning? 

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From: Leedslist [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of 
nat...@sky.com
Sent: 28 October 2017 19:27
To: {broken-address} <seanscr...@aol.com-is-broken.gn.apc.org>; 
richleed...@yahoo.co.uk; leedslist@gn.apc.org
Subject: Re: [LU] Sheff Utd

That first paragraph is spot on - good to see the club playing  part in the 
community etc but what happens on the pitch has got to be the first and main 
priority - all the rest is just trimmings I feel for the lad and his parents (I 
lost my 6 year old neice a year ago after a long and painful illness) and it is 
good that the club and players are helping them BUT not when it may be to the 
detriment of what happens where it counts as far as LUFC goes DavePS great to 
see the u17s join the u20s as WORLD CHAMPIONS  - lets hope the Premier League 
teams do not ruin these lads careers by insisting on buying foreign players 
rather than giving the youngsters a chance. Great comeback from 2 down. Who 
knows, maybe , just maybe we will have a first team in Qatar or wherever that 
can genuinely compete

      From: {broken-address} <seanscr...@aol.com-is-broken.gn.apc.org>
 To: richleed...@yahoo.co.uk; leedslist@gn.apc.org
 Sent: Saturday, 28 October 2017, 16:41
 Subject: Re: [LU] Sheff Utd
  
A couple of thoughts:


Christiansen has complained that the players' heads were still in the dressing 
room when the first goal went in. Has it crossed his mind at all that making 
the entire build up to kick-off about Toby, this terribly ill kid, complete 
with your central defender/captain carrying that kid out of the tunnel prior to 
kick off possibly distracted the players (and Cooper in particular) from 
getting their heads right for a really aggressive, tough Yorkshire derby?  I am 
all for the club getting involved with local charities, and I like the Russell 
Crowe "All Leeds Aren't We?" Twitter video for Toby, but I thought the 
pre-match stuff perhaps went a bit too far, and was a clear distraction to the 
players. Our players have a hard time being aggressive at the best of times. 
That build up virtually guaranteed they wouldn't be focused at kick-off.


As far as the rest of the game, well, I've been saying it since very early in 
the season: we are not aggressive enough, particularly in midfield. Even in the 
games we were winning in August and September, our midfielders in particular 
were being muscled off the ball too easily. Pass and move football is very 
difficult to play in the Championship if your players lack the physical 
strength and attitude to hold off a challenger prior to releasing the ball. We 
are crying out for a Roy Keane/Patrick Vieira type of midfield general (or if 
you prefer, a Billy Bremner/Johnny Giles/David Batty/Olivier Dacourt type). 
Someone who can receive a pass, hold off a challenger and then play a good, 
accurate pass to the feet of a teammate, while also being able to put in a few 
crunching, intimidating tackles early in the game to make the opposition 
players scared to be on the ball. I do not think we have any players remotely 
like that in our squad. Ronaldo Vieira is the closest. Buying someone to fill
  that role should be our January transfer priority.


In the meantime, we also have a distinct lack of height in midfield, which 
means that when the opposition press our defence, forcing Lonergan to kick it 
long, we stand almost no chance of winning the resulting aerial duels, I think 
it's worth thinking about a 3-2-4-1 formation that would at least mitigate some 
of these factors. I would plump for Lonergan in goal (Wiedwald appears to be a 
physical coward whose reluctance to put his body on the line for the team has 
directly led to at least two goals.) As a defensive three I'd go with Cooper, 
Jansson (we desperately need him back to his imperious best) and Pennington. At 
right wing-back I'd go for Ayling, who actually looks quite useful coming 
forward. Left-wing back is a bit harder, but I'd go for Dallas to inject a bit 
of British aggression. I'm wi

Re: [LU] Sheff Utd

2017-10-28 Thread {broken-address} Nicholas Armit

 Yeah the U17s were really good all tournament. Beat Spain and Brazil.
On Saturday, October 28, 2017, 12:27:16 PM EDT, nat...@sky.com 
<nat...@sky.com> wrote:  
 
 That first paragraph is spot on - good to see the club playing  part in the 
community etc but what happens on the pitch has got to be the first and main 
priority - all the rest is just trimmings
I feel for the lad and his parents (I lost my 6 year old neice a year ago after 
a long and painful illness) and it is good that the club and players are 
helping them BUT not when it may be to the detriment of what happens where it 
counts as far as LUFC goes
DavePS great to see the u17s join the u20s as WORLD CHAMPIONS  - lets hope the 
Premier League teams do not ruin these lads careers by insisting on buying 
foreign players rather than giving the youngsters a chance. Great comeback from 
2 down. Who knows, maybe , just maybe we will have a first team in Qatar or 
wherever that can genuinely compete

      From: {broken-address} <seanscr...@aol.com-is-broken.gn.apc.org>
 To: richleed...@yahoo.co.uk; leedslist@gn.apc.org 
 Sent: Saturday, 28 October 2017, 16:41
 Subject: Re: [LU] Sheff Utd
  
A couple of thoughts:


Christiansen has complained that the players' heads were still in the dressing 
room when the first goal went in. Has it crossed his mind at all that making 
the entire build up to kick-off about Toby, this terribly ill kid, complete 
with your central defender/captain carrying that kid out of the tunnel prior to 
kick off possibly distracted the players (and Cooper in particular) from 
getting their heads right for a really aggressive, tough Yorkshire derby?  I am 
all for the club getting involved with local charities, and I like the Russell 
Crowe "All Leeds Aren't We?" Twitter video for Toby, but I thought the 
pre-match stuff perhaps went a bit too far, and was a clear distraction to the 
players. Our players have a hard time being aggressive at the best of times. 
That build up virtually guaranteed they wouldn't be focused at kick-off.


As far as the rest of the game, well, I've been saying it since very early in 
the season: we are not aggressive enough, particularly in midfield. Even in the 
games we were winning in August and September, our midfielders in particular 
were being muscled off the ball too easily. Pass and move football is very 
difficult to play in the Championship if your players lack the physical 
strength and attitude to hold off a challenger prior to releasing the ball. We 
are crying out for a Roy Keane/Patrick Vieira type of midfield general (or if 
you prefer, a Billy Bremner/Johnny Giles/David Batty/Olivier Dacourt type). 
Someone who can receive a pass, hold off a challenger and then play a good, 
accurate pass to the feet of a teammate, while also being able to put in a few 
crunching, intimidating tackles early in the game to make the opposition 
players scared to be on the ball. I do not think we have any players remotely 
like that in our squad. Ronaldo Vieira is the closest. Buying someone to fill
  that role should be our January transfer priority.


In the meantime, we also have a distinct lack of height in midfield, which 
means that when the opposition press our defence, forcing Lonergan to kick it 
long, we stand almost no chance of winning the resulting aerial duels, I think 
it's worth thinking about a 3-2-4-1 formation that would at least mitigate some 
of these factors. I would plump for Lonergan in goal (Wiedwald appears to be a 
physical coward whose reluctance to put his body on the line for the team has 
directly led to at least two goals.) As a defensive three I'd go with Cooper, 
Jansson (we desperately need him back to his imperious best) and Pennington. At 
right wing-back I'd go for Ayling, who actually looks quite useful coming 
forward. Left-wing back is a bit harder, but I'd go for Dallas to inject a bit 
of British aggression. I'm willing to listen to arguments for Berardi, I'm just 
not sure of his qualities going forward. Anita doesn't impress me at all. Too 
lightweight. As the two defensive central midfielders I'd go
  with Vieira and Shaughnessy. The latter was a midfielder at Reading, is a 
decent passer of the ball and, crucially, is 6'3" tall. It would be his job to 
win every high ball pumped into the middle of the park.


The four more advanced midfielders are tough choices. Saiz is a must. He has 
the right attitude and almost got us a point on his own yesterday. The other 
options - Phillips, Alioski, Klich, Hernandez, Roofe - all have their 
weaknesses. Against teams where we might expect to see more of the ball, I'd 
probably go with Hernandez, Phillips, Roofe and Alioski. If we're under the 
cosh, perhaps I'd put Klich in. Up front I suppose I'd go with Lasogga, only 
because there are no other options. A couple of games ago when Grot came on as 
a sub the commentator said something about him being a very versatile player, 
and I im

Re: [LU] Sheff Utd

2017-10-28 Thread Michael Benjamin

I am sorry about your niece. 
I think the club should be involved in the community -- and should take a high 
profile. This feels very different though.  If you are going to give, do it 
anonymously; that is true charity. This reeked of PR management and 
exploitation of a tragedy.  Sure if the kid wanted to go out on the pitch then 
do it-- but why tell the world who he is and what he has? 
The club is rich enough to donate, and so are the players.And there are enough 
executive boxes to put the bight on.  If the parents want to set up a charity 
fine, then do so. Nevertheless, this all had a touchy-feely PR spin; I really 
did not like it. And I am not saying don't help the kid. I am saying it gave me 
a bad taste. 
Head long into  another banning? 

-Original Message-
From: Leedslist [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of 
nat...@sky.com
Sent: 28 October 2017 19:27
To: {broken-address} <seanscr...@aol.com-is-broken.gn.apc.org>; 
richleed...@yahoo.co.uk; leedslist@gn.apc.org
Subject: Re: [LU] Sheff Utd

That first paragraph is spot on - good to see the club playing  part in the 
community etc but what happens on the pitch has got to be the first and main 
priority - all the rest is just trimmings I feel for the lad and his parents (I 
lost my 6 year old neice a year ago after a long and painful illness) and it is 
good that the club and players are helping them BUT not when it may be to the 
detriment of what happens where it counts as far as LUFC goes DavePS great to 
see the u17s join the u20s as WORLD CHAMPIONS  - lets hope the Premier League 
teams do not ruin these lads careers by insisting on buying foreign players 
rather than giving the youngsters a chance. Great comeback from 2 down. Who 
knows, maybe , just maybe we will have a first team in Qatar or wherever that 
can genuinely compete

  From: {broken-address} <seanscr...@aol.com-is-broken.gn.apc.org>
 To: richleed...@yahoo.co.uk; leedslist@gn.apc.org
 Sent: Saturday, 28 October 2017, 16:41
 Subject: Re: [LU] Sheff Utd
   
A couple of thoughts:


Christiansen has complained that the players' heads were still in the dressing 
room when the first goal went in. Has it crossed his mind at all that making 
the entire build up to kick-off about Toby, this terribly ill kid, complete 
with your central defender/captain carrying that kid out of the tunnel prior to 
kick off possibly distracted the players (and Cooper in particular) from 
getting their heads right for a really aggressive, tough Yorkshire derby?  I am 
all for the club getting involved with local charities, and I like the Russell 
Crowe "All Leeds Aren't We?" Twitter video for Toby, but I thought the 
pre-match stuff perhaps went a bit too far, and was a clear distraction to the 
players. Our players have a hard time being aggressive at the best of times. 
That build up virtually guaranteed they wouldn't be focused at kick-off.


As far as the rest of the game, well, I've been saying it since very early in 
the season: we are not aggressive enough, particularly in midfield. Even in the 
games we were winning in August and September, our midfielders in particular 
were being muscled off the ball too easily. Pass and move football is very 
difficult to play in the Championship if your players lack the physical 
strength and attitude to hold off a challenger prior to releasing the ball. We 
are crying out for a Roy Keane/Patrick Vieira type of midfield general (or if 
you prefer, a Billy Bremner/Johnny Giles/David Batty/Olivier Dacourt type). 
Someone who can receive a pass, hold off a challenger and then play a good, 
accurate pass to the feet of a teammate, while also being able to put in a few 
crunching, intimidating tackles early in the game to make the opposition 
players scared to be on the ball. I do not think we have any players remotely 
like that in our squad. Ronaldo Vieira is the closest. Buying someone to fill
  that role should be our January transfer priority.


In the meantime, we also have a distinct lack of height in midfield, which 
means that when the opposition press our defence, forcing Lonergan to kick it 
long, we stand almost no chance of winning the resulting aerial duels, I think 
it's worth thinking about a 3-2-4-1 formation that would at least mitigate some 
of these factors. I would plump for Lonergan in goal (Wiedwald appears to be a 
physical coward whose reluctance to put his body on the line for the team has 
directly led to at least two goals.) As a defensive three I'd go with Cooper, 
Jansson (we desperately need him back to his imperious best) and Pennington. At 
right wing-back I'd go for Ayling, who actually looks quite useful coming 
forward. Left-wing back is a bit harder, but I'd go for Dallas to inject a bit 
of British aggression. I'm willing to listen to arguments for Berardi, I'm just 
not sure of his qualities going forward. Anita doesn't impress me at all. Too 
lightweight. As the two defensi

Re: [LU] Sheff Utd

2017-10-28 Thread nat...@sky.com

That first paragraph is spot on - good to see the club playing  part in the 
community etc but what happens on the pitch has got to be the first and main 
priority - all the rest is just trimmings
I feel for the lad and his parents (I lost my 6 year old neice a year ago after 
a long and painful illness) and it is good that the club and players are 
helping them BUT not when it may be to the detriment of what happens where it 
counts as far as LUFC goes
DavePS great to see the u17s join the u20s as WORLD CHAMPIONS  - lets hope the 
Premier League teams do not ruin these lads careers by insisting on buying 
foreign players rather than giving the youngsters a chance. Great comeback from 
2 down. Who knows, maybe , just maybe we will have a first team in Qatar or 
wherever that can genuinely compete

  From: {broken-address} <seanscr...@aol.com-is-broken.gn.apc.org>
 To: richleed...@yahoo.co.uk; leedslist@gn.apc.org 
 Sent: Saturday, 28 October 2017, 16:41
 Subject: Re: [LU] Sheff Utd
   
A couple of thoughts:


Christiansen has complained that the players' heads were still in the dressing 
room when the first goal went in. Has it crossed his mind at all that making 
the entire build up to kick-off about Toby, this terribly ill kid, complete 
with your central defender/captain carrying that kid out of the tunnel prior to 
kick off possibly distracted the players (and Cooper in particular) from 
getting their heads right for a really aggressive, tough Yorkshire derby?  I am 
all for the club getting involved with local charities, and I like the Russell 
Crowe "All Leeds Aren't We?" Twitter video for Toby, but I thought the 
pre-match stuff perhaps went a bit too far, and was a clear distraction to the 
players. Our players have a hard time being aggressive at the best of times. 
That build up virtually guaranteed they wouldn't be focused at kick-off.


As far as the rest of the game, well, I've been saying it since very early in 
the season: we are not aggressive enough, particularly in midfield. Even in the 
games we were winning in August and September, our midfielders in particular 
were being muscled off the ball too easily. Pass and move football is very 
difficult to play in the Championship if your players lack the physical 
strength and attitude to hold off a challenger prior to releasing the ball. We 
are crying out for a Roy Keane/Patrick Vieira type of midfield general (or if 
you prefer, a Billy Bremner/Johnny Giles/David Batty/Olivier Dacourt type). 
Someone who can receive a pass, hold off a challenger and then play a good, 
accurate pass to the feet of a teammate, while also being able to put in a few 
crunching, intimidating tackles early in the game to make the opposition 
players scared to be on the ball. I do not think we have any players remotely 
like that in our squad. Ronaldo Vieira is the closest. Buying someone to fill
  that role should be our January transfer priority.


In the meantime, we also have a distinct lack of height in midfield, which 
means that when the opposition press our defence, forcing Lonergan to kick it 
long, we stand almost no chance of winning the resulting aerial duels, I think 
it's worth thinking about a 3-2-4-1 formation that would at least mitigate some 
of these factors. I would plump for Lonergan in goal (Wiedwald appears to be a 
physical coward whose reluctance to put his body on the line for the team has 
directly led to at least two goals.) As a defensive three I'd go with Cooper, 
Jansson (we desperately need him back to his imperious best) and Pennington. At 
right wing-back I'd go for Ayling, who actually looks quite useful coming 
forward. Left-wing back is a bit harder, but I'd go for Dallas to inject a bit 
of British aggression. I'm willing to listen to arguments for Berardi, I'm just 
not sure of his qualities going forward. Anita doesn't impress me at all. Too 
lightweight. As the two defensive central midfielders I'd go
  with Vieira and Shaughnessy. The latter was a midfielder at Reading, is a 
decent passer of the ball and, crucially, is 6'3" tall. It would be his job to 
win every high ball pumped into the middle of the park.


The four more advanced midfielders are tough choices. Saiz is a must. He has 
the right attitude and almost got us a point on his own yesterday. The other 
options - Phillips, Alioski, Klich, Hernandez, Roofe - all have their 
weaknesses. Against teams where we might expect to see more of the ball, I'd 
probably go with Hernandez, Phillips, Roofe and Alioski. If we're under the 
cosh, perhaps I'd put Klich in. Up front I suppose I'd go with Lasogga, only 
because there are no other options. A couple of games ago when Grot came on as 
a sub the commentator said something about him being a very versatile player, 
and I immediately thought, "Yes, he can play in a number of positions and not 
score in any of them." 


This team would feature six tall outfield players, so I would b

Re: [LU] Sheff Utd

2017-10-28 Thread {broken-address}

A couple of thoughts:


Christiansen has complained that the players' heads were still in the dressing 
room when the first goal went in. Has it crossed his mind at all that making 
the entire build up to kick-off about Toby, this terribly ill kid, complete 
with your central defender/captain carrying that kid out of the tunnel prior to 
kick off possibly distracted the players (and Cooper in particular) from 
getting their heads right for a really aggressive, tough Yorkshire derby?  I am 
all for the club getting involved with local charities, and I like the Russell 
Crowe "All Leeds Aren't We?" Twitter video for Toby, but I thought the 
pre-match stuff perhaps went a bit too far, and was a clear distraction to the 
players. Our players have a hard time being aggressive at the best of times. 
That build up virtually guaranteed they wouldn't be focused at kick-off.


As far as the rest of the game, well, I've been saying it since very early in 
the season: we are not aggressive enough, particularly in midfield. Even in the 
games we were winning in August and September, our midfielders in particular 
were being muscled off the ball too easily. Pass and move football is very 
difficult to play in the Championship if your players lack the physical 
strength and attitude to hold off a challenger prior to releasing the ball. We 
are crying out for a Roy Keane/Patrick Vieira type of midfield general (or if 
you prefer, a Billy Bremner/Johnny Giles/David Batty/Olivier Dacourt type). 
Someone who can receive a pass, hold off a challenger and then play a good, 
accurate pass to the feet of a teammate, while also being able to put in a few 
crunching, intimidating tackles early in the game to make the opposition 
players scared to be on the ball. I do not think we have any players remotely 
like that in our squad. Ronaldo Vieira is the closest. Buying someone to fill
  that role should be our January transfer priority.


In the meantime, we also have a distinct lack of height in midfield, which 
means that when the opposition press our defence, forcing Lonergan to kick it 
long, we stand almost no chance of winning the resulting aerial duels, I think 
it's worth thinking about a 3-2-4-1 formation that would at least mitigate some 
of these factors. I would plump for Lonergan in goal (Wiedwald appears to be a 
physical coward whose reluctance to put his body on the line for the team has 
directly led to at least two goals.) As a defensive three I'd go with Cooper, 
Jansson (we desperately need him back to his imperious best) and Pennington. At 
right wing-back I'd go for Ayling, who actually looks quite useful coming 
forward. Left-wing back is a bit harder, but I'd go for Dallas to inject a bit 
of British aggression. I'm willing to listen to arguments for Berardi, I'm just 
not sure of his qualities going forward. Anita doesn't impress me at all. Too 
lightweight. As the two defensive central midfielders I'd go
  with Vieira and Shaughnessy. The latter was a midfielder at Reading, is a 
decent passer of the ball and, crucially, is 6'3" tall. It would be his job to 
win every high ball pumped into the middle of the park.


The four more advanced midfielders are tough choices. Saiz is a must. He has 
the right attitude and almost got us a point on his own yesterday. The other 
options - Phillips, Alioski, Klich, Hernandez, Roofe - all have their 
weaknesses. Against teams where we might expect to see more of the ball, I'd 
probably go with Hernandez, Phillips, Roofe and Alioski. If we're under the 
cosh, perhaps I'd put Klich in. Up front I suppose I'd go with Lasogga, only 
because there are no other options. A couple of games ago when Grot came on as 
a sub the commentator said something about him being a very versatile player, 
and I immediately thought, "Yes, he can play in a number of positions and not 
score in any of them." 


This team would feature six tall outfield players, so I would be playing for 
every single set-piece possible, then getting Hernandez to swing the ball into 
the area for those guys to get their heads on it. If we need a goal in the last 
ten, pull one of the shorties off and put Grot on. That way we'd have seven 
6-foot-plus players jockeying for space in the opposition's penalty area. 


I also wonder if the club has a sports psychologist. We do not play with enough 
aggression. Somehow, that must change if we are to achieve anything this season.


MOT


Sean



-Original Message-
From: {broken-address} Richard Walker 

To: leedslist 
Sent: Sat, Oct 28, 2017 5:03 am
Subject: [LU] Sheff Utd

a few thoughts I was very impressed with the way Sheff Utd started. They played 
some of the best football I've seen for a while and all their players seemed to 
know where each other were and in Duffy they had the man of the match and the 
most intelligent footballer I've seen for a while. I'd get a bid in for him in

Re: [LU] Sheff Utd

2017-10-28 Thread {broken-address}

Lasogga - a big man who plays like a fairy ;-) Absolutely spot on. Given how 
frustrated he must have been you’d think he’d try and knack a defender or two, 
but he falls over way too easily and APPEARS to not give a sh*t. 

I’m a big fan of playing your best players in their best positions - build the 
team around Saiz and stop f*cking around, get 2 up front, and get on the phone 
to George Graham for some advice. This manager may well have something, but if 
he doesn’t learn quickly, he’ll be gone. 

Really pissed me off last night. 

Sent from my iPad

> On 28 Oct 2017, at 10:53, {broken-address} Richard Walker 
> <richleed...@yahoo.co.uk.is-broken.gn.apc.org> wrote:
> 
> It's definitely Garry Monk tactics - one up front. Just don't understand it ? 
> 
>  From: Jim Moran <j...@jimmoran.co.uk>
> To: Richard Walker <richleed...@yahoo.co.uk>; "leedslist@gn.apc.org" 
> <leedslist@gn.apc.org> 
> Sent: Saturday, 28 October 2017, 10:27
> Subject: Re: [LU] Sheff Utd
> 
> Cooper went off with a dead leg. Looked like he started with one to me. 
> I think we lost because we played one up front against 3 centre halves. That 
> allowed two of them to easily manage Lasogga and gave them an extra man in 
> midfield. Every loose ball in the middle was picked up by them. 
> I can see them going up. I can see us top half, but need a lot of new players 
> next season and another coach for the defence. 
> Boro supporting mate of mine went and said it looked like a Garry Monk side!
> 
> On Sat, 28 Oct 2017 at 10:03, {broken-address} Richard Walker 
> <richleed...@yahoo.co.uk.is-broken.gn.apc.org> wrote:
> 
> a few thoughts 
> I was very impressed with the way Sheff Utd started. They played some of the 
> best football I've seen for a while and all their players seemed to know 
> where each other were and in Duffy they had the man of the match and the most 
> intelligent footballer I've seen for a while. I'd get a bid in for him in 
> January. If only our midfielders had the awareness and poise of Duffy. He 
> found time on the ball and used it effectively however that applied to just 
> about everyone in their team. Billy Sharpe, who I always thought was lively 
> but never convincing at Leeds, looked like a totally different player and if 
> it wasn't for Lonergan he could have / should have had a hatful in the first 
> half.
> The Blades played with 2 effective wingers and full backs who also came 
> forward and contributed. It was actually good to watch and I rarely say that 
> about the opposition. Their style is similar to what we are trying to achieve 
> but I don't think we have the players to do it at the moment.
> Their goal was a result of great link up play and good movement from Sharpe 
> in the box but it looked like he wasn't marked ? Need to see it again but if 
> a little bloke like Sharp gets a free header from 4 yards you have to ask 
> questions of our 6 ft central defenders. 
> I thought our defence crumbled under the attacks. Cooper and Pennington as 
> first choice is as bad a decision as selling Rob Green and I'm losing faith 
> in our attacker manager who doesn't seem to know who are the best defenders.. 
> Cooper for me is 4th in line at the moment yet if he is fit he plays and to 
> top it all he is captain. Bad decision after bad decision. 
> I also think we have to look a bit further than the central two who were not 
> helped by Ayling who I thought had a poor game defensively. Anita also 
> struggled against lively attackers. I like Anita but I don't think he's a 
> left back. 
> In midfield, we started with Philips playing as the 'no 10' and Saiz on the 
> left wing. Another bad decision, Philips hardly touching the ball and I 
> didn't know Saiz was on the pitch in the first 30 minutes. As for Lasogga, 
> big questions have to be asked. Can he really play as a lone striker in this 
> league when he's constantly outbattled and out muscled off the ball so easily 
> ? He looks powder puff to me. 
> Allioski saw a lot of the ball on the right but he failed to deliver on every 
> occasion.
> Any positives ? 
> Well, yes. I thought we responded really well to going 1 down and unlike some 
> performances we didn't crumble. TC made a good decision in moving Saiz into 
> the 'no 10' position however this meant Philips was asked to play as a left 
> winger which rendered him even more useless than he had been previous to 
> that. 
> At one point after we equalised I thought we had them on the ropes and their 
> slick football stopped and we did take control but a mixture of an inability 
> to pass and keep the ball (Lasogga, Allioski, Ayling) let them back into it 
> and normally service was resumed when their 10 year old sub came on and 
> showed Lasogga

Re: [LU] Sheff Utd

2017-10-28 Thread {broken-address} Nicholas Armit

Think Saiz let the crosser go?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 28, 2017, at 5:13 AM, Simon McNally  wrote:
> 
> First goal I thought was Anita and Viera letting their man go - he drifted 
> off the back of them and had acres of time and space to pick his cross. Not 
> sure you can blame the marking in the middle - one cb had to shift to cover 
> the bloke who crossed leaving the other with two to mark. Someone with 
> Sharp’s experience was always going to find space there 
> 
> S
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 28 Oct 2017, at 10:03, {broken-address} Richard Walker 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> a few thoughts 
>> I was very impressed with the way Sheff Utd started. They played some of the 
>> best football I've seen for a while and all their players seemed to know 
>> where each other were and in Duffy they had the man of the match and the 
>> most intelligent footballer I've seen for a while. I'd get a bid in for him 
>> in January. If only our midfielders had the awareness and poise of Duffy. He 
>> found time on the ball and used it effectively however that applied to just 
>> about everyone in their team. Billy Sharpe, who I always thought was lively 
>> but never convincing at Leeds, looked like a totally different player and if 
>> it wasn't for Lonergan he could have / should have had a hatful in the first 
>> half.
>> The Blades played with 2 effective wingers and full backs who also came 
>> forward and contributed. It was actually good to watch and I rarely say that 
>> about the opposition. Their style is similar to what we are trying to 
>> achieve but I don't think we have the players to do it at the moment.
>> Their goal was a result of great link up play and good movement from Sharpe 
>> in the box but it looked like he wasn't marked ? Need to see it again but if 
>> a little bloke like Sharp gets a free header from 4 yards you have to ask 
>> questions of our 6 ft central defenders. 
>> I thought our defence crumbled under the attacks. Cooper and Pennington as 
>> first choice is as bad a decision as selling Rob Green and I'm losing faith 
>> in our attacker manager who doesn't seem to know who are the best 
>> defenders.. Cooper for me is 4th in line at the moment yet if he is fit he 
>> plays and to top it all he is captain. Bad decision after bad decision. 
>> I also think we have to look a bit further than the central two who were not 
>> helped by Ayling who I thought had a poor game defensively. Anita also 
>> struggled against lively attackers. I like Anita but I don't think he's a 
>> left back. 
>> In midfield, we started with Philips playing as the 'no 10' and Saiz on the 
>> left wing. Another bad decision, Philips hardly touching the ball and I 
>> didn't know Saiz was on the pitch in the first 30 minutes. As for Lasogga, 
>> big questions have to be asked. Can he really play as a lone striker in this 
>> league when he's constantly outbattled and out muscled off the ball so 
>> easily ? He looks powder puff to me. 
>> Allioski saw a lot of the ball on the right but he failed to deliver on 
>> every occasion.
>> Any positives ? 
>> Well, yes. I thought we responded really well to going 1 down and unlike 
>> some performances we didn't crumble. TC made a good decision in moving Saiz 
>> into the 'no 10' position however this meant Philips was asked to play as a 
>> left winger which rendered him even more useless than he had been previous 
>> to that. 
>> At one point after we equalised I thought we had them on the ropes and their 
>> slick football stopped and we did take control but a mixture of an inability 
>> to pass and keep the ball (Lasogga, Allioski, Ayling) let them back into it 
>> and normally service was resumed when their 10 year old sub came on and 
>> showed Lasogga how to play as a centre forward. Very, very frustrating. 
>> Saiz tried as a one man show to win the game and he really had them worried 
>> but he can't do it on his own and we can't expect him week in week out to be 
>> the midfield and the attack. 
>> Overall, I'd say it was a fair result. I thought we battled well to get back 
>> in the game but ultimately key players let us down today. 
>> Lonergan - 8. Kept us in it first half. 
>> Ayling - 4. I thought it was his worst game for Leeds - he has always 
>> struggled IMO on the back foot against pacey opposition. Not a premier 
>> league defender as some think. 
>> Anita - 5. Struggled
>> Pennington - 6. I thought first 20 minutes he was all over the place but I 
>> wouldn't completely blame him. I thought he improved massively in the second 
>> half and I thought he defended pretty well overall. I'd settle for him and 
>> Jansson to be given a run in the team. Stopped fucking about with the 
>> pairings TC. 
>> Cooper - 3. I've never been convinced by him and against tricky and speedy 
>> opponents and lik Pennington he started really shakily but he didn't improve 
>> until he got

Re: [LU] Sheff Utd

2017-10-28 Thread {broken-address} Nicholas Armit

Very fair I would say. Except I still rate okane more than you. Phillips we 
agree on. I really want Alioski to come good probably cos of living in 
Switzerland and having some weird affinity for FC Lugano. But tbh he is really 
disappointing lately. Thought he started the season well. I am giving Lasogga 
more time as he was pretty class the first few games.

And the scum effin won. What a weekend!

Nick

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 28, 2017, at 5:03 AM, {broken-address} Richard Walker 
>  wrote:
> 
> a few thoughts 
> I was very impressed with the way Sheff Utd started. They played some of the 
> best football I've seen for a while and all their players seemed to know 
> where each other were and in Duffy they had the man of the match and the most 
> intelligent footballer I've seen for a while. I'd get a bid in for him in 
> January. If only our midfielders had the awareness and poise of Duffy. He 
> found time on the ball and used it effectively however that applied to just 
> about everyone in their team. Billy Sharpe, who I always thought was lively 
> but never convincing at Leeds, looked like a totally different player and if 
> it wasn't for Lonergan he could have / should have had a hatful in the first 
> half.
> The Blades played with 2 effective wingers and full backs who also came 
> forward and contributed. It was actually good to watch and I rarely say that 
> about the opposition. Their style is similar to what we are trying to achieve 
> but I don't think we have the players to do it at the moment.
> Their goal was a result of great link up play and good movement from Sharpe 
> in the box but it looked like he wasn't marked ? Need to see it again but if 
> a little bloke like Sharp gets a free header from 4 yards you have to ask 
> questions of our 6 ft central defenders. 
> I thought our defence crumbled under the attacks. Cooper and Pennington as 
> first choice is as bad a decision as selling Rob Green and I'm losing faith 
> in our attacker manager who doesn't seem to know who are the best defenders.. 
> Cooper for me is 4th in line at the moment yet if he is fit he plays and to 
> top it all he is captain. Bad decision after bad decision. 
> I also think we have to look a bit further than the central two who were not 
> helped by Ayling who I thought had a poor game defensively. Anita also 
> struggled against lively attackers. I like Anita but I don't think he's a 
> left back. 
> In midfield, we started with Philips playing as the 'no 10' and Saiz on the 
> left wing. Another bad decision, Philips hardly touching the ball and I 
> didn't know Saiz was on the pitch in the first 30 minutes. As for Lasogga, 
> big questions have to be asked. Can he really play as a lone striker in this 
> league when he's constantly outbattled and out muscled off the ball so easily 
> ? He looks powder puff to me. 
> Allioski saw a lot of the ball on the right but he failed to deliver on every 
> occasion.
> Any positives ? 
> Well, yes. I thought we responded really well to going 1 down and unlike some 
> performances we didn't crumble. TC made a good decision in moving Saiz into 
> the 'no 10' position however this meant Philips was asked to play as a left 
> winger which rendered him even more useless than he had been previous to 
> that. 
> At one point after we equalised I thought we had them on the ropes and their 
> slick football stopped and we did take control but a mixture of an inability 
> to pass and keep the ball (Lasogga, Allioski, Ayling) let them back into it 
> and normally service was resumed when their 10 year old sub came on and 
> showed Lasogga how to play as a centre forward. Very, very frustrating. 
> Saiz tried as a one man show to win the game and he really had them worried 
> but he can't do it on his own and we can't expect him week in week out to be 
> the midfield and the attack. 
> Overall, I'd say it was a fair result. I thought we battled well to get back 
> in the game but ultimately key players let us down today. 
> Lonergan - 8. Kept us in it first half. 
> Ayling - 4. I thought it was his worst game for Leeds - he has always 
> struggled IMO on the back foot against pacey opposition. Not a premier league 
> defender as some think. 
> Anita - 5. Struggled
> Pennington - 6. I thought first 20 minutes he was all over the place but I 
> wouldn't completely blame him. I thought he improved massively in the second 
> half and I thought he defended pretty well overall. I'd settle for him and 
> Jansson to be given a run in the team. Stopped fucking about with the 
> pairings TC. 
> Cooper - 3. I've never been convinced by him and against tricky and speedy 
> opponents and lik Pennington he started really shakily but he didn't improve 
> until he got injured. Is he playing with an injury ? He's very inconsistent 
> and the decision to make him captain is a really bad one. 
> Philips - 3. Another good goal masking a

Re: [LU] Sheff Utd

2017-10-28 Thread {broken-address} Nicholas Armit

Interestingly it seems Duffy is a bit of a journeyman and in his early 30s if I 
heard the commentary right. Strange how some players who look really good just 
don’t make it sometimes.

Nick

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 28, 2017, at 5:03 AM, {broken-address} Richard Walker 
>  wrote:
> 
> a few thoughts 
> I was very impressed with the way Sheff Utd started. They played some of the 
> best football I've seen for a while and all their players seemed to know 
> where each other were and in Duffy they had the man of the match and the most 
> intelligent footballer I've seen for a while. I'd get a bid in for him in 
> January. If only our midfielders had the awareness and poise of Duffy. He 
> found time on the ball and used it effectively however that applied to just 
> about everyone in their team. Billy Sharpe, who I always thought was lively 
> but never convincing at Leeds, looked like a totally different player and if 
> it wasn't for Lonergan he could have / should have had a hatful in the first 
> half.
> The Blades played with 2 effective wingers and full backs who also came 
> forward and contributed. It was actually good to watch and I rarely say that 
> about the opposition. Their style is similar to what we are trying to achieve 
> but I don't think we have the players to do it at the moment.
> Their goal was a result of great link up play and good movement from Sharpe 
> in the box but it looked like he wasn't marked ? Need to see it again but if 
> a little bloke like Sharp gets a free header from 4 yards you have to ask 
> questions of our 6 ft central defenders. 
> I thought our defence crumbled under the attacks. Cooper and Pennington as 
> first choice is as bad a decision as selling Rob Green and I'm losing faith 
> in our attacker manager who doesn't seem to know who are the best defenders.. 
> Cooper for me is 4th in line at the moment yet if he is fit he plays and to 
> top it all he is captain. Bad decision after bad decision. 
> I also think we have to look a bit further than the central two who were not 
> helped by Ayling who I thought had a poor game defensively. Anita also 
> struggled against lively attackers. I like Anita but I don't think he's a 
> left back. 
> In midfield, we started with Philips playing as the 'no 10' and Saiz on the 
> left wing. Another bad decision, Philips hardly touching the ball and I 
> didn't know Saiz was on the pitch in the first 30 minutes. As for Lasogga, 
> big questions have to be asked. Can he really play as a lone striker in this 
> league when he's constantly outbattled and out muscled off the ball so easily 
> ? He looks powder puff to me. 
> Allioski saw a lot of the ball on the right but he failed to deliver on every 
> occasion.
> Any positives ? 
> Well, yes. I thought we responded really well to going 1 down and unlike some 
> performances we didn't crumble. TC made a good decision in moving Saiz into 
> the 'no 10' position however this meant Philips was asked to play as a left 
> winger which rendered him even more useless than he had been previous to 
> that. 
> At one point after we equalised I thought we had them on the ropes and their 
> slick football stopped and we did take control but a mixture of an inability 
> to pass and keep the ball (Lasogga, Allioski, Ayling) let them back into it 
> and normally service was resumed when their 10 year old sub came on and 
> showed Lasogga how to play as a centre forward. Very, very frustrating. 
> Saiz tried as a one man show to win the game and he really had them worried 
> but he can't do it on his own and we can't expect him week in week out to be 
> the midfield and the attack. 
> Overall, I'd say it was a fair result. I thought we battled well to get back 
> in the game but ultimately key players let us down today. 
> Lonergan - 8. Kept us in it first half. 
> Ayling - 4. I thought it was his worst game for Leeds - he has always 
> struggled IMO on the back foot against pacey opposition. Not a premier league 
> defender as some think. 
> Anita - 5. Struggled
> Pennington - 6. I thought first 20 minutes he was all over the place but I 
> wouldn't completely blame him. I thought he improved massively in the second 
> half and I thought he defended pretty well overall. I'd settle for him and 
> Jansson to be given a run in the team. Stopped fucking about with the 
> pairings TC. 
> Cooper - 3. I've never been convinced by him and against tricky and speedy 
> opponents and lik Pennington he started really shakily but he didn't improve 
> until he got injured. Is he playing with an injury ? He's very inconsistent 
> and the decision to make him captain is a really bad one. 
> Philips - 3. Another good goal masking a performance that contributed 
> nothing.  Everyone will remember the goal and say that justifies why he is 
> one of the first names on the teamsheet. I say no ! His general play is not 
> good enough and putting in the odd

Re: [LU] Sheff Utd

2017-10-28 Thread Simon McNally

I’d play 3 at the back like they did.
Gives you 3/5 in midfield and 2 up front.
We’re also suffering for not buying a left back

Sent from my iPhone

> On 28 Oct 2017, at 10:53, {broken-address} Richard Walker 
> <richleed...@yahoo.co.uk.is-broken.gn.apc.org> wrote:
> 
> It's definitely Garry Monk tactics - one up front. Just don't understand it ? 
> 
>  From: Jim Moran <j...@jimmoran.co.uk>
> To: Richard Walker <richleed...@yahoo.co.uk>; "leedslist@gn.apc.org" 
> <leedslist@gn.apc.org> 
> Sent: Saturday, 28 October 2017, 10:27
> Subject: Re: [LU] Sheff Utd
> 
> Cooper went off with a dead leg. Looked like he started with one to me. 
> I think we lost because we played one up front against 3 centre halves. That 
> allowed two of them to easily manage Lasogga and gave them an extra man in 
> midfield. Every loose ball in the middle was picked up by them. 
> I can see them going up. I can see us top half, but need a lot of new players 
> next season and another coach for the defence. 
> Boro supporting mate of mine went and said it looked like a Garry Monk side!
> 
> On Sat, 28 Oct 2017 at 10:03, {broken-address} Richard Walker 
> <richleed...@yahoo.co.uk.is-broken.gn.apc.org> wrote:
> 
> a few thoughts 
> I was very impressed with the way Sheff Utd started. They played some of the 
> best football I've seen for a while and all their players seemed to know 
> where each other were and in Duffy they had the man of the match and the most 
> intelligent footballer I've seen for a while. I'd get a bid in for him in 
> January. If only our midfielders had the awareness and poise of Duffy. He 
> found time on the ball and used it effectively however that applied to just 
> about everyone in their team. Billy Sharpe, who I always thought was lively 
> but never convincing at Leeds, looked like a totally different player and if 
> it wasn't for Lonergan he could have / should have had a hatful in the first 
> half.
> The Blades played with 2 effective wingers and full backs who also came 
> forward and contributed. It was actually good to watch and I rarely say that 
> about the opposition. Their style is similar to what we are trying to achieve 
> but I don't think we have the players to do it at the moment.
> Their goal was a result of great link up play and good movement from Sharpe 
> in the box but it looked like he wasn't marked ? Need to see it again but if 
> a little bloke like Sharp gets a free header from 4 yards you have to ask 
> questions of our 6 ft central defenders. 
> I thought our defence crumbled under the attacks. Cooper and Pennington as 
> first choice is as bad a decision as selling Rob Green and I'm losing faith 
> in our attacker manager who doesn't seem to know who are the best defenders.. 
> Cooper for me is 4th in line at the moment yet if he is fit he plays and to 
> top it all he is captain. Bad decision after bad decision. 
> I also think we have to look a bit further than the central two who were not 
> helped by Ayling who I thought had a poor game defensively. Anita also 
> struggled against lively attackers. I like Anita but I don't think he's a 
> left back. 
> In midfield, we started with Philips playing as the 'no 10' and Saiz on the 
> left wing. Another bad decision, Philips hardly touching the ball and I 
> didn't know Saiz was on the pitch in the first 30 minutes. As for Lasogga, 
> big questions have to be asked. Can he really play as a lone striker in this 
> league when he's constantly outbattled and out muscled off the ball so easily 
> ? He looks powder puff to me. 
> Allioski saw a lot of the ball on the right but he failed to deliver on every 
> occasion.
> Any positives ? 
> Well, yes. I thought we responded really well to going 1 down and unlike some 
> performances we didn't crumble. TC made a good decision in moving Saiz into 
> the 'no 10' position however this meant Philips was asked to play as a left 
> winger which rendered him even more useless than he had been previous to 
> that. 
> At one point after we equalised I thought we had them on the ropes and their 
> slick football stopped and we did take control but a mixture of an inability 
> to pass and keep the ball (Lasogga, Allioski, Ayling) let them back into it 
> and normally service was resumed when their 10 year old sub came on and 
> showed Lasogga how to play as a centre forward. Very, very frustrating. 
> Saiz tried as a one man show to win the game and he really had them worried 
> but he can't do it on his own and we can't expect him week in week out to be 
> the midfield and the attack. 
> Overall, I'd say it was a fair result. I thought we battled well to get back 
> in the game but ultimately key players let us down today. 
>

Re: [LU] Sheff Utd

2017-10-28 Thread {broken-address} Richard Walker

It's definitely Garry Monk tactics - one up front. Just don't understand it ? 

  From: Jim Moran <j...@jimmoran.co.uk>
 To: Richard Walker <richleed...@yahoo.co.uk>; "leedslist@gn.apc.org" 
<leedslist@gn.apc.org> 
 Sent: Saturday, 28 October 2017, 10:27
 Subject: Re: [LU] Sheff Utd

Cooper went off with a dead leg. Looked like he started with one to me. 
I think we lost because we played one up front against 3 centre halves. That 
allowed two of them to easily manage Lasogga and gave them an extra man in 
midfield. Every loose ball in the middle was picked up by them. 
I can see them going up. I can see us top half, but need a lot of new players 
next season and another coach for the defence. 
Boro supporting mate of mine went and said it looked like a Garry Monk side!

On Sat, 28 Oct 2017 at 10:03, {broken-address} Richard Walker 
<richleed...@yahoo.co.uk.is-broken.gn.apc.org> wrote:

a few thoughts 
I was very impressed with the way Sheff Utd started. They played some of the 
best football I've seen for a while and all their players seemed to know where 
each other were and in Duffy they had the man of the match and the most 
intelligent footballer I've seen for a while. I'd get a bid in for him in 
January. If only our midfielders had the awareness and poise of Duffy. He found 
time on the ball and used it effectively however that applied to just about 
everyone in their team. Billy Sharpe, who I always thought was lively but never 
convincing at Leeds, looked like a totally different player and if it wasn't 
for Lonergan he could have / should have had a hatful in the first half.
The Blades played with 2 effective wingers and full backs who also came forward 
and contributed. It was actually good to watch and I rarely say that about the 
opposition. Their style is similar to what we are trying to achieve but I don't 
think we have the players to do it at the moment.
Their goal was a result of great link up play and good movement from Sharpe in 
the box but it looked like he wasn't marked ? Need to see it again but if a 
little bloke like Sharp gets a free header from 4 yards you have to ask 
questions of our 6 ft central defenders. 
I thought our defence crumbled under the attacks. Cooper and Pennington as 
first choice is as bad a decision as selling Rob Green and I'm losing faith in 
our attacker manager who doesn't seem to know who are the best defenders. 
Cooper for me is 4th in line at the moment yet if he is fit he plays and to top 
it all he is captain. Bad decision after bad decision. 
I also think we have to look a bit further than the central two who were not 
helped by Ayling who I thought had a poor game defensively. Anita also 
struggled against lively attackers. I like Anita but I don't think he's a left 
back. 
In midfield, we started with Philips playing as the 'no 10' and Saiz on the 
left wing. Another bad decision, Philips hardly touching the ball and I didn't 
know Saiz was on the pitch in the first 30 minutes. As for Lasogga, big 
questions have to be asked. Can he really play as a lone striker in this league 
when he's constantly outbattled and out muscled off the ball so easily ? He 
looks powder puff to me. 
Allioski saw a lot of the ball on the right but he failed to deliver on every 
occasion.
Any positives ? 
Well, yes. I thought we responded really well to going 1 down and unlike some 
performances we didn't crumble. TC made a good decision in moving Saiz into the 
'no 10' position however this meant Philips was asked to play as a left winger 
which rendered him even more useless than he had been previous to that. 
At one point after we equalised I thought we had them on the ropes and their 
slick football stopped and we did take control but a mixture of an inability to 
pass and keep the ball (Lasogga, Allioski, Ayling) let them back into it and 
normally service was resumed when their 10 year old sub came on and showed 
Lasogga how to play as a centre forward. Very, very frustrating. 
Saiz tried as a one man show to win the game and he really had them worried but 
he can't do it on his own and we can't expect him week in week out to be the 
midfield and the attack. 
Overall, I'd say it was a fair result. I thought we battled well to get back in 
the game but ultimately key players let us down today. 
Lonergan - 8. Kept us in it first half. 
Ayling - 4. I thought it was his worst game for Leeds - he has always struggled 
IMO on the back foot against pacey opposition. Not a premier league defender as 
some think. 
Anita - 5. Struggled
Pennington - 6. I thought first 20 minutes he was all over the place but I 
wouldn't completely blame him. I thought he improved massively in the second 
half and I thought he defended pretty well overall. I'd settle for him and 
Jansson to be given a run in the team. Stopped fucking about with the pairings 
TC. 
Cooper - 3. I've never been convinced by him and against tricky and speedy 
opponents an

Re: [LU] Sheff Utd

2017-10-28 Thread Jim Moran

Cooper went off with a dead leg. Looked like he started with one to me.

I think we lost because we played one up front against 3 centre halves.
That allowed two of them to easily manage Lasogga and gave them an extra
man in midfield. Every loose ball in the middle was picked up by them.

I can see them going up. I can see us top half, but need a lot of new
players next season and another coach for the defence.

Boro supporting mate of mine went and said it looked like a Garry Monk side!


On Sat, 28 Oct 2017 at 10:03, {broken-address} Richard Walker <
richleed...@yahoo.co.uk.is-broken.gn.apc.org> wrote:

> a few thoughts
> I was very impressed with the way Sheff Utd started. They played some of
> the best football I've seen for a while and all their players seemed to
> know where each other were and in Duffy they had the man of the match and
> the most intelligent footballer I've seen for a while. I'd get a bid in for
> him in January. If only our midfielders had the awareness and poise of
> Duffy. He found time on the ball and used it effectively however that
> applied to just about everyone in their team. Billy Sharpe, who I always
> thought was lively but never convincing at Leeds, looked like a totally
> different player and if it wasn't for Lonergan he could have / should have
> had a hatful in the first half.
> The Blades played with 2 effective wingers and full backs who also came
> forward and contributed. It was actually good to watch and I rarely say
> that about the opposition. Their style is similar to what we are trying to
> achieve but I don't think we have the players to do it at the moment.
> Their goal was a result of great link up play and good movement from
> Sharpe in the box but it looked like he wasn't marked ? Need to see it
> again but if a little bloke like Sharp gets a free header from 4 yards you
> have to ask questions of our 6 ft central defenders.
> I thought our defence crumbled under the attacks. Cooper and Pennington as
> first choice is as bad a decision as selling Rob Green and I'm losing faith
> in our attacker manager who doesn't seem to know who are the best
> defenders. Cooper for me is 4th in line at the moment yet if he is fit he
> plays and to top it all he is captain. Bad decision after bad decision.
> I also think we have to look a bit further than the central two who were
> not helped by Ayling who I thought had a poor game defensively. Anita also
> struggled against lively attackers. I like Anita but I don't think he's a
> left back.
> In midfield, we started with Philips playing as the 'no 10' and Saiz on
> the left wing. Another bad decision, Philips hardly touching the ball and I
> didn't know Saiz was on the pitch in the first 30 minutes. As for Lasogga,
> big questions have to be asked. Can he really play as a lone striker in
> this league when he's constantly outbattled and out muscled off the ball so
> easily ? He looks powder puff to me.
> Allioski saw a lot of the ball on the right but he failed to deliver on
> every occasion.
> Any positives ?
> Well, yes. I thought we responded really well to going 1 down and unlike
> some performances we didn't crumble. TC made a good decision in moving Saiz
> into the 'no 10' position however this meant Philips was asked to play as a
> left winger which rendered him even more useless than he had been previous
> to that.
> At one point after we equalised I thought we had them on the ropes and
> their slick football stopped and we did take control but a mixture of an
> inability to pass and keep the ball (Lasogga, Allioski, Ayling) let them
> back into it and normally service was resumed when their 10 year old sub
> came on and showed Lasogga how to play as a centre forward. Very, very
> frustrating.
> Saiz tried as a one man show to win the game and he really had them
> worried but he can't do it on his own and we can't expect him week in week
> out to be the midfield and the attack.
> Overall, I'd say it was a fair result. I thought we battled well to get
> back in the game but ultimately key players let us down today.
> Lonergan - 8. Kept us in it first half.
> Ayling - 4. I thought it was his worst game for Leeds - he has always
> struggled IMO on the back foot against pacey opposition. Not a premier
> league defender as some think.
> Anita - 5. Struggled
> Pennington - 6. I thought first 20 minutes he was all over the place but I
> wouldn't completely blame him. I thought he improved massively in the
> second half and I thought he defended pretty well overall. I'd settle for
> him and Jansson to be given a run in the team. Stopped fucking about with
> the pairings TC.
> Cooper - 3. I've never been convinced by him and against tricky and speedy
> opponents and lik Pennington he started really shakily but he didn't
> improve until he got injured. Is he playing with an injury ? He's very
> inconsistent and the decision to make him captain is a really bad one.
> Philips - 3. Another good goal masking a performance

Re: [LU] Sheff Utd

2017-10-28 Thread Simon McNally

First goal I thought was Anita and Viera letting their man go - he drifted off 
the back of them and had acres of time and space to pick his cross. Not sure 
you can blame the marking in the middle - one cb had to shift to cover the 
bloke who crossed leaving the other with two to mark. Someone with Sharp’s 
experience was always going to find space there 

S

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> On 28 Oct 2017, at 10:03, {broken-address} Richard Walker 
>  wrote:
> 
> a few thoughts 
> I was very impressed with the way Sheff Utd started. They played some of the 
> best football I've seen for a while and all their players seemed to know 
> where each other were and in Duffy they had the man of the match and the most 
> intelligent footballer I've seen for a while. I'd get a bid in for him in 
> January. If only our midfielders had the awareness and poise of Duffy. He 
> found time on the ball and used it effectively however that applied to just 
> about everyone in their team. Billy Sharpe, who I always thought was lively 
> but never convincing at Leeds, looked like a totally different player and if 
> it wasn't for Lonergan he could have / should have had a hatful in the first 
> half.
> The Blades played with 2 effective wingers and full backs who also came 
> forward and contributed. It was actually good to watch and I rarely say that 
> about the opposition. Their style is similar to what we are trying to achieve 
> but I don't think we have the players to do it at the moment.
> Their goal was a result of great link up play and good movement from Sharpe 
> in the box but it looked like he wasn't marked ? Need to see it again but if 
> a little bloke like Sharp gets a free header from 4 yards you have to ask 
> questions of our 6 ft central defenders. 
> I thought our defence crumbled under the attacks. Cooper and Pennington as 
> first choice is as bad a decision as selling Rob Green and I'm losing faith 
> in our attacker manager who doesn't seem to know who are the best defenders.. 
> Cooper for me is 4th in line at the moment yet if he is fit he plays and to 
> top it all he is captain. Bad decision after bad decision. 
> I also think we have to look a bit further than the central two who were not 
> helped by Ayling who I thought had a poor game defensively. Anita also 
> struggled against lively attackers. I like Anita but I don't think he's a 
> left back. 
> In midfield, we started with Philips playing as the 'no 10' and Saiz on the 
> left wing. Another bad decision, Philips hardly touching the ball and I 
> didn't know Saiz was on the pitch in the first 30 minutes. As for Lasogga, 
> big questions have to be asked. Can he really play as a lone striker in this 
> league when he's constantly outbattled and out muscled off the ball so easily 
> ? He looks powder puff to me. 
> Allioski saw a lot of the ball on the right but he failed to deliver on every 
> occasion.
> Any positives ? 
> Well, yes. I thought we responded really well to going 1 down and unlike some 
> performances we didn't crumble. TC made a good decision in moving Saiz into 
> the 'no 10' position however this meant Philips was asked to play as a left 
> winger which rendered him even more useless than he had been previous to 
> that. 
> At one point after we equalised I thought we had them on the ropes and their 
> slick football stopped and we did take control but a mixture of an inability 
> to pass and keep the ball (Lasogga, Allioski, Ayling) let them back into it 
> and normally service was resumed when their 10 year old sub came on and 
> showed Lasogga how to play as a centre forward. Very, very frustrating. 
> Saiz tried as a one man show to win the game and he really had them worried 
> but he can't do it on his own and we can't expect him week in week out to be 
> the midfield and the attack. 
> Overall, I'd say it was a fair result. I thought we battled well to get back 
> in the game but ultimately key players let us down today. 
> Lonergan - 8. Kept us in it first half. 
> Ayling - 4. I thought it was his worst game for Leeds - he has always 
> struggled IMO on the back foot against pacey opposition. Not a premier league 
> defender as some think. 
> Anita - 5. Struggled
> Pennington - 6. I thought first 20 minutes he was all over the place but I 
> wouldn't completely blame him. I thought he improved massively in the second 
> half and I thought he defended pretty well overall. I'd settle for him and 
> Jansson to be given a run in the team. Stopped fucking about with the 
> pairings TC. 
> Cooper - 3. I've never been convinced by him and against tricky and speedy 
> opponents and lik Pennington he started really shakily but he didn't improve 
> until he got injured. Is he playing with an injury ? He's very inconsistent 
> and the decision to make him captain is a really bad one. 
> Philips - 3. Another good goal masking a performance that contributed 
> nothing.  Everyone will

Re: [LU] Sheff Utd game live on Foxtel Australia

2017-10-24 Thread Richard Naef

£5 less to spend on Messi!

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Channel 514 BeIn Sports 2,  5.45am Saturday morning
Another five quid saved lol

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Re: [LU] Sheff Utd

2011-05-03 Thread Lee Jones

Likewise, how many Leeds players do we think Norwich/QPR will be targeting
in the summer?

On 3 May 2011 09:05, McWilliams, Brendan, VF-Group (bmcwill) 
brendan.mcwilli...@vodafone.com wrote:

 So how many Sheff Utd players could/should we pick up? Wasn't Montgomery a
 target last summer?

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 Sad to see Sheff Utd go down!

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Re: [LU] Sheff Utd match

2010-09-27 Thread Robert Heath

Totally agree re Kilkenny. I was thinking during the Donkeys match what a 
superb player he is, how he really ought to be playing at a higher level, and 
how lucky we are to have him. (Was it the Donkey manager who said that every 
time Kilkenny gets dropped at Leeds, he rings up and asks if he's available?)

I couldn't believe when people on this list started criticising him, and whilst 
I understand the logic of leaving him out of a blood-and-thunder game, like 
Dave, I don't agree with it. Killer is much more than a very good passer of the 
ball..he works hard and does his share of tackling as well.
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