Re: [LU] Well

[Richard Walker via Leedslist]

Everyone near me were commenting on the Madeley comparison- that’s some 
compliment cos Madeley was the best 


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On Friday, May 17, 2024, 7:16 AM, Richard Walker via Leedslist 
 wrote:

Superb night. Ashley Barnes being the highlight for me. Not heard abuse like 
that since Stevie Archibald.
Anyone managed to book a train to Wembley this morning - no luck on Trainline 
or Seat frog so far. 


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On Friday, May 17, 2024, 12:14 AM, John Lee via Leedslist 
 wrote:

A truly magnificent stop.

Tonight we played to our strengths - attack, attack, attack! I know Rutter got 
MOTM, but Archie was mightily impressive tonight - whilst still raw, there’s a 
bit of the Paul Madeley about him!

On this form, we can dare to dream again :-) 



> On 16 May 2024, at 23:04, Nick Allen  wrote:
> 
> Let’s hear it for Meslier, one on one at  2-0.
> 
> Yours, falling apart.
> 
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Re: [LU] Well

[Richard Walker via Leedslist]

Superb night. Ashley Barnes being the highlight for me. Not heard abuse like 
that since Stevie Archibald.
Anyone managed to book a train to Wembley this morning - no luck on Trainline 
or Seat frog so far. 


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On Friday, May 17, 2024, 12:14 AM, John Lee via Leedslist 
 wrote:

A truly magnificent stop.

Tonight we played to our strengths - attack, attack, attack! I know Rutter got 
MOTM, but Archie was mightily impressive tonight - whilst still raw, there’s a 
bit of the Paul Madeley about him!

On this form, we can dare to dream again :-) 



> On 16 May 2024, at 23:04, Nick Allen  wrote:
> 
> Let’s hear it for Meslier, one on one at  2-0.
> 
> Yours, falling apart.
> 
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Re: [LU] Well

[Peter Castlehouse]

Stop it!  Just stop this silly dreaming stuff!   And you a member of the cloth!
On this form we can dream again INDEED!

The only thing that will be making you dream will be the alcoholic haze of 
sacrificial wine that you find yourself plundering and seeking solace within!   
Either alcohol or a ketamine haze anyways!

Cheers
Outback Pete
With his feet firmly on the ground, no alcohol or drugs anywhere in sight!

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From: Leedslist  On Behalf Of John Lee via 
Leedslist
Sent: Friday, 17 May 2024 9:14 AM
To: Nick Allen 
Cc: leedslist@gn.apc.org
Subject: Re: [LU] Well

A truly magnificent stop.

Tonight we played to our strengths - attack, attack, attack! I know Rutter got 
MOTM, but Archie was mightily impressive tonight - whilst still raw, there’s a 
bit of the Paul Madeley about him!

On this form, we can dare to dream again :-) 



> On 16 May 2024, at 23:04, Nick Allen  wrote:
> 
> Let’s hear it for Meslier, one on one at  2-0.
> 
> Yours, falling apart.

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Re: [LU] Well

[John Lee via Leedslist]

A truly magnificent stop.

Tonight we played to our strengths - attack, attack, attack! I know Rutter got 
MOTM, but Archie was mightily impressive tonight - whilst still raw, there’s a 
bit of the Paul Madeley about him!

On this form, we can dare to dream again :-) 



> On 16 May 2024, at 23:04, Nick Allen  wrote:
> 
> Let’s hear it for Meslier, one on one at  2-0.
> 
> Yours, falling apart.
> 
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Re: [LU] Well that’s that then…

[Michael Benjamin]

Statistically speaking we are all of little significance

--Michael

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Sent: Tuesday, May 9, 2023 12:14:46 PM
To: Leeds List 2010 
Subject: Re: [LU] Well that’s that then…

Exactly - until something is mathematically impossible, it remains possible. (a 
statement of the bleeding obvious, I know)

Nick

> On 9 May 2023, at 10:08, John Lee via Leedslist  wrote:
>
> We have 3 games to go. We need to win between 1-3 games. It is do-able! 
> There’s time aplenty to muse on other leagues, but for now, let’s concentrate 
> on staying in the Prem, which will much easier than getting there again! If 
> Everton can stick 5 past Brighton, then anything is clearly possible!
>
>
>> On 9 May 2023, at 06:05, Michael Benjamin  wrote:
>>
>> Would you rather be us or NCastle?
>> We are playing consecutively against football-washed decadents. Chelsea will 
>> get their uppance in full from dallying with Putin's toy boy.
>> This is not football, its soccer's equivalent of the Harlem Trotters for 
>> suitcase bandits.
>> The second division seems far less tainted & thank God we are no longer ( & 
>> hopefully never will be) Leeds United States.
>> There is nowt wrong with West Yorkshire that needs improving. And the German 
>> model of ownership without these vermin work perfectly well.
>> We go down, -- the first time that the rats stayed on the stinking ship.
>> --Michael
>>
>>
>>
>> Dr  Michael Benjamin,
>> Community Psychiatrist.
>> Oranit,
>> ISRAEL
>>
>> SKYPE: BEDENOGA
>> PHONE: +972-505-317772
>> Online CBT ||   Online Consultations
>> BLOG: Times Of Israel || Quora || Jerusalem Post || MYCYBERTHERAPY BLOG
>> AMAZON AUTHORS PAGE.
>>
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Leedslist  On Behalf Of Alec McQueen
>> Sent: Tuesday, May 9, 2023 1:33 AM
>> To: Leeds leedslist 
>> Subject: [LU] Well that’s that then…
>>
>> … we are now well and truly fucked. Chance of survival: 5%. Bugger! At least 
>> we’ll win more games than we lose next season… silver linings.
>>
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Re: [LU] Well that’s that then…

[Robert Heath]

Yeah. Brighton (a town which should be obliterated from the map for Crimes
Against Leeds United) were clearly on the beach last night. We've all got 3
games left. I think Wham & Totteringham should both be officially OTB by
the time we play them. Unfortunately, all the other teams have 2 OTB games
out of the 3...except Leicester who only have 1. I am classifying
Chelsea v Notts as an OTB game which I expect Chelsea to lose, but you
never know with them. That one game could decide our fate!

On Tue, May 9, 2023 at 10:11 AM John Lee via Leedslist 
wrote:

> We have 3 games to go. We need to win between 1-3 games. It is do-able!
> There’s time aplenty to muse on other leagues, but for now, let’s
> concentrate on staying in the Prem, which will much easier than getting
> there again! If Everton can stick 5 past Brighton, then anything is clearly
> possible!
>
>
> > On 9 May 2023, at 06:05, Michael Benjamin  wrote:
> >
> > Would you rather be us or NCastle?
> > We are playing consecutively against football-washed decadents. Chelsea
> will get their uppance in full from dallying with Putin's toy boy.
> > This is not football, its soccer's equivalent of the Harlem Trotters for
> suitcase bandits.
> > The second division seems far less tainted & thank God we are no longer
> ( & hopefully never will be) Leeds United States.
> > There is nowt wrong with West Yorkshire that needs improving. And the
> German model of ownership without these vermin work perfectly well.
> > We go down, -- the first time that the rats stayed on the stinking
> ship.
> > --Michael
> >
> >
> >
> > Dr  Michael Benjamin,
> > Community Psychiatrist.
> > Oranit,
> > ISRAEL
> >
> > SKYPE: BEDENOGA
> > PHONE: +972-505-317772
> > Online CBT ||   Online Consultations
> > BLOG: Times Of Israel || Quora || Jerusalem Post || MYCYBERTHERAPY BLOG
> > AMAZON AUTHORS PAGE.
> >
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Leedslist  On Behalf Of Alec McQueen
> > Sent: Tuesday, May 9, 2023 1:33 AM
> > To: Leeds leedslist 
> > Subject: [LU] Well that’s that then…
> >
> > … we are now well and truly fucked. Chance of survival: 5%. Bugger! At
> least we’ll win more games than we lose next season… silver linings.
> >
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Re: [LU] Well that’s that then…

[Nick]

Exactly - until something is mathematically impossible, it remains possible. (a 
statement of the bleeding obvious, I know)

Nick

> On 9 May 2023, at 10:08, John Lee via Leedslist  wrote:
> 
> We have 3 games to go. We need to win between 1-3 games. It is do-able! 
> There’s time aplenty to muse on other leagues, but for now, let’s concentrate 
> on staying in the Prem, which will much easier than getting there again! If 
> Everton can stick 5 past Brighton, then anything is clearly possible!
> 
> 
>> On 9 May 2023, at 06:05, Michael Benjamin  wrote:
>> 
>> Would you rather be us or NCastle? 
>> We are playing consecutively against football-washed decadents. Chelsea will 
>> get their uppance in full from dallying with Putin's toy boy. 
>> This is not football, its soccer's equivalent of the Harlem Trotters for 
>> suitcase bandits. 
>> The second division seems far less tainted & thank God we are no longer ( & 
>> hopefully never will be) Leeds United States. 
>> There is nowt wrong with West Yorkshire that needs improving. And the German 
>> model of ownership without these vermin work perfectly well. 
>> We go down, -- the first time that the rats stayed on the stinking ship.  
>> --Michael
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Dr  Michael Benjamin, 
>> Community Psychiatrist.
>> Oranit,
>> ISRAEL
>> 
>> SKYPE: BEDENOGA
>> PHONE: +972-505-317772
>> Online CBT ||   Online Consultations 
>> BLOG: Times Of Israel || Quora || Jerusalem Post || MYCYBERTHERAPY BLOG
>> AMAZON AUTHORS PAGE. 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Leedslist  On Behalf Of Alec McQueen
>> Sent: Tuesday, May 9, 2023 1:33 AM
>> To: Leeds leedslist 
>> Subject: [LU] Well that’s that then…
>> 
>> … we are now well and truly fucked. Chance of survival: 5%. Bugger! At least 
>> we’ll win more games than we lose next season… silver linings. 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
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Re: [LU] Well that’s that then…

[John Lee via Leedslist]

We have 3 games to go. We need to win between 1-3 games. It is do-able! There’s 
time aplenty to muse on other leagues, but for now, let’s concentrate on 
staying in the Prem, which will much easier than getting there again! If 
Everton can stick 5 past Brighton, then anything is clearly possible!


> On 9 May 2023, at 06:05, Michael Benjamin  wrote:
> 
> Would you rather be us or NCastle? 
> We are playing consecutively against football-washed decadents. Chelsea will 
> get their uppance in full from dallying with Putin's toy boy. 
> This is not football, its soccer's equivalent of the Harlem Trotters for 
> suitcase bandits. 
> The second division seems far less tainted & thank God we are no longer ( & 
> hopefully never will be) Leeds United States. 
> There is nowt wrong with West Yorkshire that needs improving. And the German 
> model of ownership without these vermin work perfectly well. 
> We go down, -- the first time that the rats stayed on the stinking ship.  
> --Michael
> 
> 
> 
> Dr  Michael Benjamin, 
> Community Psychiatrist.
> Oranit,
> ISRAEL
> 
> SKYPE: BEDENOGA
> PHONE: +972-505-317772
> Online CBT ||   Online Consultations 
> BLOG: Times Of Israel || Quora || Jerusalem Post || MYCYBERTHERAPY BLOG
> AMAZON AUTHORS PAGE. 
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Leedslist  On Behalf Of Alec McQueen
> Sent: Tuesday, May 9, 2023 1:33 AM
> To: Leeds leedslist 
> Subject: [LU] Well that’s that then…
> 
> … we are now well and truly fucked. Chance of survival: 5%. Bugger! At least 
> we’ll win more games than we lose next season… silver linings. 
> 
> Sent from my iPad
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Re: [LU] Well that’s that then…

[Michael Benjamin]

Would you rather be us or NCastle? 
We are playing consecutively against football-washed decadents. Chelsea will 
get their uppance in full from dallying with Putin's toy boy. 
This is not football, its soccer's equivalent of the Harlem Trotters for 
suitcase bandits. 
The second division seems far less tainted & thank God we are no longer ( & 
hopefully never will be) Leeds United States. 
There is nowt wrong with West Yorkshire that needs improving. And the German 
model of ownership without these vermin work perfectly well. 
We go down, -- the first time that the rats stayed on the stinking ship.  
--Michael



Dr  Michael Benjamin, 
Community Psychiatrist.
Oranit,
ISRAEL

SKYPE: BEDENOGA
PHONE: +972-505-317772
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AMAZON AUTHORS PAGE. 



-Original Message-
From: Leedslist  On Behalf Of Alec McQueen
Sent: Tuesday, May 9, 2023 1:33 AM
To: Leeds leedslist 
Subject: [LU] Well that’s that then…

… we are now well and truly fucked. Chance of survival: 5%. Bugger! At least 
we’ll win more games than we lose next season… silver linings. 

Sent from my iPad
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Re: [LU] Well

[Paul Cundell]

It's ok Rich, Monday isn't really midweek

On Tue, 18 Apr 2023, 08:39 Richard Walker via Leedslist, <
leedslist@gn.apc.org> wrote:

>  Yes, the cutting out mid-week drinking plan for me went astray last
> night. I just feel totally empty after that performance which was one of
> the worst.
>
>
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Re: [LU] Well

[Michael Benjamin]

Let's hope Rutger and Aaronson come good

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From: Leedslist  on behalf of MATTHEW GAYNOR via 
Leedslist 
Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2023 6:27:46 PM
To: Richard Walker ; Simon McNally 
; bruvvalee...@yahoo.co.uk 
Cc: Leeds List 2010 
Subject: Re: [LU] Well


There's 4 players i'd be happy to see in the team at the moment -
problem is they are all wingers.

I think we can cope upfront and centre-back if Wober and Bamford are fit
but we dont have a single full-back or midfielder available i have
confidence in at the moment.

We might be back to chucking a centre-back into midfield to give some
presence, then McKennie could move forward into Aaronson's spot or we
could play Greenwood there.

Completely stuck at full-back. Whilst other teams have perfected moving
a full-back into midfield - we have perfected having the full-back who
is never where he is meant to be.

Matt

-- Original Message --
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To: "bruvvalee...@yahoo.co.uk" ; "Richard
Walker" 
Cc: "Leeds List 2010" 
Sent: Tuesday, 18 Apr, 23 At 12:33
Subject: Re: [LU] Well
Absolute shambles, mostly of the club’s own making.
Don’t back Bielsa with signings then sack Bielsa.
Appoint Ted talk vibe merchant and buy bang average players from a one
team pub league. Unsurprisingly they turn out not to be any good.
Sign a fat midfielder from juve and break transfer record on a “project”
who looks like he hasn’t seen a football before.
Sack vibe merchant too late and waste three more games looking for a
replacement.
I was encouraged by Gracia to start with but that was truly awful
yesterday.
I heard Neil Redfearn on the radio on the way home discussing our
tactics.
He was on about the low block we were trying to play but felt you need
good and athletic players to make it work.
You need to be able to get up the pitch quickly to counter when you win
the ball back and then get back into the low block quickly when you lose
it. A midfield of McKennie and Roca isn’t ever going to be able to do
that. Roca looked knackered after about ten minutes and McKennie is
about as mobile as a fridge.
Madness to set up like that.
Saw a shocking stat too. Apparently of the last 13 shots on target
Meslier has faced, 12 have been goals. I had him at fault for at least 3
of them yesterday. He looks shot and I’d play Robles at Fulham.
Right back is like choosing between being punched in the face or the
stomach. Ayling, great servant to the club, but legs have gone and
there’s mistake in him every game or Kristienson who looks like he’s won
a raffle to get a game and has a mistake in him every game.
Midfield garbage but virtually no alternatives. Gyabi has been great for
the 21s, is he worth a go at Fulham? Can’t be worse than Roca and
McKennie.
Aaronson might be the weakest player I’ve seen on a pitch. Looks like a
stiff breeze might knock him over. Runs around, falls over, doesn’t
release the ball quick enough, always makes the wrong decision. Did we
really pay £20m for him?
I’m struggling to see where the points come from for us to stay up.
Simon

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Re: [LU] Well

[MATTHEW GAYNOR via Leedslist]

There's 4 players i'd be happy to see in the team at the moment - 
problem is they are all wingers.


I think we can cope upfront and centre-back if Wober and Bamford are fit 
but we dont have a single full-back or midfielder available i have 
confidence in at the moment.


We might be back to chucking a centre-back into midfield to give some 
presence, then McKennie could move forward into Aaronson's spot or we 
could play Greenwood there.


Completely stuck at full-back. Whilst other teams have perfected moving 
a full-back into midfield - we have perfected having the full-back who 
is never where he is meant to be.


Matt

-- Original Message --
From: "Simon McNally via Leedslist" 
To: "bruvvalee...@yahoo.co.uk" ; "Richard 
Walker" 

Cc: "Leeds List 2010" 
Sent: Tuesday, 18 Apr, 23 At 12:33
Subject: Re: [LU] Well
Absolute shambles, mostly of the club’s own making.
Don’t back Bielsa with signings then sack Bielsa.
Appoint Ted talk vibe merchant and buy bang average players from a one 
team pub league. Unsurprisingly they turn out not to be any good.
Sign a fat midfielder from juve and break transfer record on a “project” 
who looks like he hasn’t seen a football before.
Sack vibe merchant too late and waste three more games looking for a 
replacement.
I was encouraged by Gracia to start with but that was truly awful 
yesterday.
I heard Neil Redfearn on the radio on the way home discussing our 
tactics.
He was on about the low block we were trying to play but felt you need 
good and athletic players to make it work.
You need to be able to get up the pitch quickly to counter when you win 
the ball back and then get back into the low block quickly when you lose 
it. A midfield of McKennie and Roca isn’t ever going to be able to do 
that. Roca looked knackered after about ten minutes and McKennie is 
about as mobile as a fridge.

Madness to set up like that.
Saw a shocking stat too. Apparently of the last 13 shots on target 
Meslier has faced, 12 have been goals. I had him at fault for at least 3 
of them yesterday. He looks shot and I’d play Robles at Fulham.
Right back is like choosing between being punched in the face or the 
stomach. Ayling, great servant to the club, but legs have gone and 
there’s mistake in him every game or Kristienson who looks like he’s won 
a raffle to get a game and has a mistake in him every game.
Midfield garbage but virtually no alternatives. Gyabi has been great for 
the 21s, is he worth a go at Fulham? Can’t be worse than Roca and 
McKennie.
Aaronson might be the weakest player I’ve seen on a pitch. Looks like a 
stiff breeze might knock him over. Runs around, falls over, doesn’t 
release the ball quick enough, always makes the wrong decision. Did we 
really pay £20m for him?

I’m struggling to see where the points come from for us to stay up.
Simon

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Re: [LU] Well

[Simon McNally via Leedslist]

Absolute shambles, mostly of the club’s own making.
Don’t back Bielsa with signings then sack Bielsa.
Appoint Ted talk vibe merchant and buy bang average players from a one team pub 
league. Unsurprisingly they turn out not to be any good.
Sign a fat midfielder from juve and break transfer record on a “project” who 
looks like he hasn’t seen a football before.
Sack vibe merchant too late and waste three more games looking for a 
replacement.
I was encouraged by Gracia to start with but that was truly awful yesterday.
I heard Neil Redfearn on the radio on the way home discussing our tactics.
He was on about the low block we were trying to play but felt you need good and 
athletic players to make it work.
You need to be able to get up the pitch quickly to counter when you win the 
ball back and then get back into the low block quickly when you lose it. A 
midfield of McKennie and Roca isn’t ever going to be able to do that. Roca 
looked knackered after about ten minutes and McKennie is about as mobile as a 
fridge.
Madness to set up like that.
Saw a shocking stat too. Apparently of the last 13 shots on target Meslier has 
faced, 12 have been goals. I had him at fault for at least 3 of them yesterday. 
He looks shot and I’d play Robles at Fulham.
Right back is like choosing between being punched in the face or the stomach. 
Ayling, great servant to the club, but legs have gone and there’s mistake in 
him every game or Kristienson who looks like he’s won a raffle to get a game 
and has a mistake in him every game.
Midfield garbage but virtually no alternatives. Gyabi has been great for the 
21s, is he worth a go at Fulham? Can’t be worse than Roca and McKennie.
Aaronson might be the weakest player I’ve seen on a pitch. Looks like a stiff 
breeze might knock him over. Runs around, falls over, doesn’t release the ball 
quick enough, always makes the wrong decision. Did we really pay £20m for him?
I’m struggling to see where the points come from for us to stay up.

Simon

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Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2023 9:28:39 AM
To: Richard Walker 
Cc: Leeds List 2010 
Subject: Re: [LU] Well

Agree re Cooper coming back, but I’d move Struijk to right back.

I think we’re going down, but I thought that last season too. We’re worse now!

McKennie / Roca in midfield - p*ss poor!

Tottenham putting us down will not be a good look!

> On 18 Apr 2023, at 08:39, Richard Walker via Leedslist  
> wrote:
>
> Yes, the cutting out mid-week drinking plan for me went astray last night. I 
> just feel totally empty after that performance which was one of the worst. I 
> think we've 2 maion problems:
> 1) The manager 2) The players
> First of all, have you ever seen a Leeds team set up so negatively at home 
> for a match. I can't rememeber. We just let Liverpool have the run of the 
> park and then tried to feed on scraps when their attacks broke down. It was 
> quite effective for a while but it was only ever going to end one way. After 
> half time, Gracia tried to get his players to step up the pitch and we looked 
> better for 10 mins but then they just took control. Liverpool's away record 
> is poor. Why did we show them so much respect ? Surely we should have gone 
> after them from the start with Summerville, Gnonto and Sinisterra leading the 
> line. Rodrigo isn't fit.I think he has to go today and yes that's seems 
> impossible but how can we stay up with such a negative manager ?
> As for the players, it's desperate. Mckennie and Roca is like watching Okon 
> and Aizlewood. Neither can run, neither have got the fight or the ability to 
> get us out of this mess and control the midfield. Roca can pass a ball when 
> he's got oceans of space and isn't under pressure (Forest) but put him under 
> a bit of pressure and he crumbles. Mckennie is a fat lad who without his 
> lacky Adams looks lost.
> Meslier looks like a keeper who has given up - I would be tempted to put the 
> reserve keeper in.
> I've never been convinced about Struijk and I think we all know now he's not 
> a PL centre back. His best performance have come at left back but even there 
> he looks uncomfortable.
> It's come to the point when actually I think Cooper and Ayling have to play. 
> At very least, you know they are going to die for the cause. Last night, we 
> saw Rutter come on and tippy toe around the park to the final whistel where 
> he rushed to Firmino to get his shirt and congratulate him. £35 million ! 
> Beggars belief
> Aaronson is a trier but the fact is he isn't good enough. Far too lightweight.
> I could go on, but I think we're doomed. Not sure where we go from here.
> 12:30 Saturday I suppose.
>
>
>On Tuesday, 18 April 2023 at 01:36:10 BST, Nicholas Armit via Leedslist 
>  wrote:
&g

Re: [LU] Well

[John Lee via Leedslist]

Agree re Cooper coming back, but I’d move Struijk to right back. 

I think we’re going down, but I thought that last season too. We’re worse now!

McKennie / Roca in midfield - p*ss poor! 
 
Tottenham putting us down will not be a good look!

> On 18 Apr 2023, at 08:39, Richard Walker via Leedslist  
> wrote:
> 
> Yes, the cutting out mid-week drinking plan for me went astray last night. I 
> just feel totally empty after that performance which was one of the worst. I 
> think we've 2 maion problems:
> 1) The manager 2) The players 
> First of all, have you ever seen a Leeds team set up so negatively at home 
> for a match. I can't rememeber. We just let Liverpool have the run of the 
> park and then tried to feed on scraps when their attacks broke down. It was 
> quite effective for a while but it was only ever going to end one way. After 
> half time, Gracia tried to get his players to step up the pitch and we looked 
> better for 10 mins but then they just took control. Liverpool's away record 
> is poor. Why did we show them so much respect ? Surely we should have gone 
> after them from the start with Summerville, Gnonto and Sinisterra leading the 
> line. Rodrigo isn't fit.I think he has to go today and yes that's seems 
> impossible but how can we stay up with such a negative manager ? 
> As for the players, it's desperate. Mckennie and Roca is like watching Okon 
> and Aizlewood. Neither can run, neither have got the fight or the ability to 
> get us out of this mess and control the midfield. Roca can pass a ball when 
> he's got oceans of space and isn't under pressure (Forest) but put him under 
> a bit of pressure and he crumbles. Mckennie is a fat lad who without his 
> lacky Adams looks lost. 
> Meslier looks like a keeper who has given up - I would be tempted to put the 
> reserve keeper in. 
> I've never been convinced about Struijk and I think we all know now he's not 
> a PL centre back. His best performance have come at left back but even there 
> he looks uncomfortable. 
> It's come to the point when actually I think Cooper and Ayling have to play. 
> At very least, you know they are going to die for the cause. Last night, we 
> saw Rutter come on and tippy toe around the park to the final whistel where 
> he rushed to Firmino to get his shirt and congratulate him. £35 million ! 
> Beggars belief 
> Aaronson is a trier but the fact is he isn't good enough. Far too 
> lightweight. 
> I could go on, but I think we're doomed. Not sure where we go from here. 
> 12:30 Saturday I suppose. 
> 
> 
>On Tuesday, 18 April 2023 at 01:36:10 BST, Nicholas Armit via Leedslist 
>  wrote:  
> 
>  Utter shambles.
> On Monday, April 17, 2023 at 07:03:21 PM EDT, n...@6haroldplace.co.uk 
>  wrote:  
> 
> I’m just sitting here drinking, because that was as fucking woeful and 
> clueless as anything I have ever seen in a Leeds shirt.
> 
> Dreadful. 
> 
> Only possibly Koch, Firpo and Harrison deserve to even be considered for the 
> next game.
> 
> Nick
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [LU] Well

[Richard Walker via Leedslist]

 Yes, the cutting out mid-week drinking plan for me went astray last night. I 
just feel totally empty after that performance which was one of the worst. I 
think we've 2 maion problems:
1) The manager 2) The players 
First of all, have you ever seen a Leeds team set up so negatively at home for 
a match. I can't rememeber. We just let Liverpool have the run of the park and 
then tried to feed on scraps when their attacks broke down. It was quite 
effective for a while but it was only ever going to end one way. After half 
time, Gracia tried to get his players to step up the pitch and we looked better 
for 10 mins but then they just took control. Liverpool's away record is poor. 
Why did we show them so much respect ? Surely we should have gone after them 
from the start with Summerville, Gnonto and Sinisterra leading the line. 
Rodrigo isn't fit.I think he has to go today and yes that's seems impossible 
but how can we stay up with such a negative manager ? 
As for the players, it's desperate. Mckennie and Roca is like watching Okon and 
Aizlewood. Neither can run, neither have got the fight or the ability to get us 
out of this mess and control the midfield. Roca can pass a ball when he's got 
oceans of space and isn't under pressure (Forest) but put him under a bit of 
pressure and he crumbles. Mckennie is a fat lad who without his lacky Adams 
looks lost. 
Meslier looks like a keeper who has given up - I would be tempted to put the 
reserve keeper in. 
I've never been convinced about Struijk and I think we all know now he's not a 
PL centre back. His best performance have come at left back but even there he 
looks uncomfortable. 
It's come to the point when actually I think Cooper and Ayling have to play. At 
very least, you know they are going to die for the cause. Last night, we saw 
Rutter come on and tippy toe around the park to the final whistel where he 
rushed to Firmino to get his shirt and congratulate him. £35 million ! Beggars 
belief 
Aaronson is a trier but the fact is he isn't good enough. Far too lightweight. 
I could go on, but I think we're doomed. Not sure where we go from here. 
12:30 Saturday I suppose. 

    
On Tuesday, 18 April 2023 at 01:36:10 BST, Nicholas Armit via Leedslist 
 wrote:  
 
  Utter shambles.
    On Monday, April 17, 2023 at 07:03:21 PM EDT, n...@6haroldplace.co.uk 
 wrote:  
 
 I’m just sitting here drinking, because that was as fucking woeful and 
clueless as anything I have ever seen in a Leeds shirt.

Dreadful. 

Only possibly Koch, Firpo and Harrison deserve to even be considered for the 
next game.

Nick



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[Nicholas Armit via Leedslist]

 Utter shambles.
On Monday, April 17, 2023 at 07:03:21 PM EDT, n...@6haroldplace.co.uk 
 wrote:  
 
 I’m just sitting here drinking, because that was as fucking woeful and 
clueless as anything I have ever seen in a Leeds shirt.

Dreadful. 

Only possibly Koch, Firpo and Harrison deserve to even be considered for the 
next game.

Nick



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Re: [LU] Well

[John Lee via Leedslist]

I think it’s an elaborate double-bluff, which will see Bamford & Wober 
recalled, McKennie given a 1 way fare back to Italy, and maybe an attempt to 
play some football. Admittedly the last part of that is a stretch?

In a game which I expected to lose, to see the same capitulation was pretty 
unbelievable, as was seeing the same kind of substitutions, which made the team 
even worse as per the Palace game. As for Rutter, if you’d told me the local 
school had run a competition to give their most useless f*cker a game, I’d 
believe it! He is a man with no idea, in a team with no ideas, and looks 
utterly lost. Firpo looked like he was feigning injury trying to get off, 
Sinisterra is starting to make Paddy look tough, and Rodrigo - well, did he 
play?

We may, undeservedly, somehow avoid relegation, but we are bloody awful, and 
can’t complain if we do go down. 2 years of mainly miserable football and you 
really do wonder what’s the point? 

As for Gracia, he must be wondering exactly what kind of professional 
footballers he’s working with? 

In summary, not our finest hour ;-)

Oh, and how could their first goal stand? Fair enough with the other 5, 
but..



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> On 18 Apr 2023, at 00:02, "n...@6haroldplace.co.uk"  
> wrote:
> 
> I’m just sitting here drinking, because that was as fucking woeful and 
> clueless as anything I have ever seen in a Leeds shirt.
> 
> Dreadful. 
> 
> Only possibly Koch, Firpo and Harrison deserve to even be considered for the 
> next game.
> 
> Nick
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [LU] Well....

[{broken-address} Richard Walker]

Did we have a forward playing today ! Didn't notice him.


> On 11 Feb 2017, at 16:57, {broken-address} Nicholas Armit 
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> 
> Agreed two holding midfielders, one forward at home. Not good.
> 
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>> 
>> A bit !? Fucking atrocious - no plan B from Monk at all
>> 
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>>> To clarify ...it's a bit shit ..
>>> 
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[{broken-address} Nicholas Armit]

This does not bode well for the rest if the season

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> Agreed two holding midfielders, one forward at home. Not good.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Feb 11, 2017, at 11:44 AM, {broken-address} Richard Walker 
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>> A bit !? Fucking atrocious - no plan B from Monk at all
>> 
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>>> To clarify ...it's a bit shit ..
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[{broken-address} Nicholas Armit]

Agreed two holding midfielders, one forward at home. Not good.

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> On Feb 11, 2017, at 11:44 AM, {broken-address} Richard Walker 
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> A bit !? Fucking atrocious - no plan B from Monk at all
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> To clarify ...it's a bit shit ..
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Re: [LU] Well....

[{broken-address} Richard Walker]

A bit !? Fucking atrocious - no plan B from Monk at all

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> On 11 Feb 2017, at 16:40, wayne callaghan  wrote:
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> To clarify ...it's a bit shit ..
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> This I'd a bit shit
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Re: [LU] Well....

[wayne callaghan]

To clarify ...it's a bit shit ..

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This I'd a bit shit
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Re: [LU] Well that's a surprise (not)

[Michael Gardiner]

“Not” is, sadly, right.  Having coached over on these shores for many years it 
seems that hardly a year goes by without one of these stories coming up.  My 
daughter played on a team coached by one who, a couple of years later, was done 
for having diddled (or tried to diddle) some of the players.  I coached a 
player who’s older brother was done for getting drunk and having an orgy with 
several of his female players.  And it’s definitely not limited to football.

It seems that, at least over here, while the overwhelming majority of youth 
coaches are admirable, hard-working individuals,  there’s also a certain type 
of person drawn to working with kids for all the wrong reasons.  I doubt that 
will change.

But what CAN change is to tighten the system of licensing, relicensing and 
notification to make sure that it does not happen again and again involving the 
same individual.

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Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2016 12:48:06 +
From: Forsake ends <forzale...@aol.com<mailto:forzale...@aol.com>>
To: Ian Murray <ianjamesmur...@hotmail.com<mailto:ianjamesmur...@hotmail.com>>
Cc: "leedslist@gn.apc.org<mailto:leedslist@gn.apc.org>" 
<leedslist@gn.apc.org<mailto:leedslist@gn.apc.org>>
Subject: Re: [LU] Well that's a surprise (not)
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They'll deduct us 15 points just in case.

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On 27 Nov 2016, at 11:49, Ian Murray 
<ianjamesmur...@hotmail.com<mailto:ianjamesmur...@hotmail.com>> wrote:

Sorry - here in the colonies I have missed this...do tell.



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Date: 27/11/2016 19:47 (GMT+08:00)
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Subject: [LU] Well that's a surprise (not)

There couldn't be a nationwide football scandal without us being involved
could there?
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Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2016 12:55:06 + (UTC)
From: "nat...@sky.com<mailto:nat...@sky.com>" 
<nat...@sky.com<mailto:nat...@sky.com>>
To: Ian Murray <ianjamesmur...@hotmail.com<mailto:ianjamesmur...@hotmail.com>>, 
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Subject: Re: [LU] Well that's a surprise (not)
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A footballer - Andy Woodward has come forward with allegations that he was 
sexuallyy abused by his coach at Crewe (Bary Bennell who has served time for 
it) - since then Paul Stewart (Spurs) and david White (Man City and us ) have 
made the same claims, so it has now escalatedFor first couple of days only 
Crewe were named but the PFA have set up a hotline and lots of ex players have 
come forward (very similar to the Saville stuff) - and a number of clubs have 
been mentioned , and as expected LUFC are one of them (Stoke Man CIty Blckpool, 
Southampton and Newcastle) over 20 players have come forward so far
Going to be massive and plenty of jail for those convicted
Dave

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<ianjamesmur...@hotmail.com<mailto:ianjame

Re: [LU] Well that's a surprise (not)

[{broken-address}]

Agreed Ted, how did he keep his job working with children? Inevitably it'll be 
'well we all knew but...' - it'll be interesting to know why Crewe sacked him 
and how he kept working  in football? As for any LUFC issue, I pray it isn't 
true, but like others have said, we usually arn't that lucky to be on the right 
side of the fence!

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> On 27 Nov 2016, at 13:04, Ted <tedhea...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I just find it incredible that Bennell has been jailed at least 3 times,
> yes, that's 3 times for sex crimes against young boys. How on earth did he
> keep getting employed as a coach
> 
> Hanging's too good for him.
> 
>> On 27 Nov 2016 12:55 p.m., "nat...@sky.com" <nat...@sky.com> wrote:
>> 
>> A footballer - Andy Woodward has come forward with allegations that he was
>> sexuallyy abused by his coach at Crewe (Bary Bennell who has served time
>> for it) - since then Paul Stewart (Spurs) and david White (Man City and us
>> ) have made the same claims, so it has now escalatedFor first couple of
>> days only Crewe were named but the PFA have set up a hotline and lots of ex
>> players have come forward (very similar to the Saville stuff) - and a
>> number of clubs have been mentioned , and as expected LUFC are one of them
>> (Stoke Man CIty Blckpool, Southampton and Newcastle) over 20 players have
>> come forward so far
>> Going to be massive and plenty of jail for those convicted
>> Dave
>> 
>>  From: Ian Murray <ianjamesmur...@hotmail.com>
>> To: Rob Heath <rhe...@hkis.edu.hk>; "leedslist@gn.apc.org" <
>> leedslist@gn.apc.org>
>> Sent: Sunday, 27 November 2016, 11:49
>> Subject: Re: [LU] Well that's a surprise (not)
>> 
>> Sorry - here in the colonies I have missed this...do tell.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.
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>>  Original message 
>> From: Rob Heath <rhe...@hkis.edu.hk>
>> Date: 27/11/2016 19:47 (GMT+08:00)
>> To: leedslist@gn.apc.org
>> Subject: [LU] Well that's a surprise (not)
>> 
>> There couldn't be a nationwide football scandal without us being involved
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Re: [LU] Well that's a surprise (not)

[Ted]

I just find it incredible that Bennell has been jailed at least 3 times,
yes, that's 3 times for sex crimes against young boys. How on earth did he
keep getting employed as a coach

Hanging's too good for him.

On 27 Nov 2016 12:55 p.m., "nat...@sky.com" <nat...@sky.com> wrote:

> A footballer - Andy Woodward has come forward with allegations that he was
> sexuallyy abused by his coach at Crewe (Bary Bennell who has served time
> for it) - since then Paul Stewart (Spurs) and david White (Man City and us
> ) have made the same claims, so it has now escalatedFor first couple of
> days only Crewe were named but the PFA have set up a hotline and lots of ex
> players have come forward (very similar to the Saville stuff) - and a
> number of clubs have been mentioned , and as expected LUFC are one of them
> (Stoke Man CIty Blckpool, Southampton and Newcastle) over 20 players have
> come forward so far
> Going to be massive and plenty of jail for those convicted
> Dave
>
>   From: Ian Murray <ianjamesmur...@hotmail.com>
>  To: Rob Heath <rhe...@hkis.edu.hk>; "leedslist@gn.apc.org" <
> leedslist@gn.apc.org>
>  Sent: Sunday, 27 November 2016, 11:49
>  Subject: Re: [LU] Well that's a surprise (not)
>
> Sorry - here in the colonies I have missed this...do tell.
>
>
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> Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.
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>  Original message 
> From: Rob Heath <rhe...@hkis.edu.hk>
> Date: 27/11/2016 19:47 (GMT+08:00)
> To: leedslist@gn.apc.org
> Subject: [LU] Well that's a surprise (not)
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Re: [LU] Well that's a surprise (not)

[nat...@sky.com]

A footballer - Andy Woodward has come forward with allegations that he was 
sexuallyy abused by his coach at Crewe (Bary Bennell who has served time for 
it) - since then Paul Stewart (Spurs) and david White (Man City and us ) have 
made the same claims, so it has now escalatedFor first couple of days only 
Crewe were named but the PFA have set up a hotline and lots of ex players have 
come forward (very similar to the Saville stuff) - and a number of clubs have 
been mentioned , and as expected LUFC are one of them (Stoke Man CIty Blckpool, 
Southampton and Newcastle) over 20 players have come forward so far
Going to be massive and plenty of jail for those convicted
Dave

  From: Ian Murray <ianjamesmur...@hotmail.com>
 To: Rob Heath <rhe...@hkis.edu.hk>; "leedslist@gn.apc.org" 
<leedslist@gn.apc.org> 
 Sent: Sunday, 27 November 2016, 11:49
 Subject: Re: [LU] Well that's a surprise (not)
   
Sorry - here in the colonies I have missed this...do tell.



Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.


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Date: 27/11/2016 19:47 (GMT+08:00)
To: leedslist@gn.apc.org
Subject: [LU] Well that's a surprise (not)

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Re: [LU] Well done Burnley

[Richard Walker]

I think it will be bedlam.

 On 11 Feb 2014, at 00:17, Eric B barl...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 lets hope it doesnt backfire with shit off pitch. but yeah, the
 fearmongering from authorities.. I ve had enough of it for sure.
 
 
 On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 2:54 AM, nat...@sky.com nat...@sky.com wrote:
 
 Would be great if other clubs follow suit - maybe our mad authority hating
 new owner will do the same for our 'high profile' games
 
 
 
 http://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/sport/football/burnley_fc/news/10999608._/
 ?
 
 
 
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Re: [LU] Well done Burnley

[Eric B]

lets hope it doesnt backfire with shit off pitch. but yeah, the
fearmongering from authorities.. I ve had enough of it for sure.


On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 2:54 AM, nat...@sky.com nat...@sky.com wrote:

 Would be great if other clubs follow suit - maybe our mad authority hating
 new owner will do the same for our 'high profile' games



 http://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/sport/football/burnley_fc/news/10999608._/
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Re: [LU] Well Bugger Me

[Chris Nickson]

A merry Christmas to all of you and peace among men and women, at least for
today. Tomorrow, thoughand given that my OH is a lifelong Forest fan
I'm not holding out hopes of a calm domestic afternoon.

Chris
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Re: [LU] Well, that's the last time...

[Peter Hudson]

I just saw the advert:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gT0QGgd7vbg

Delivering Manchester United to the world no less.

On 07/07/2012 11:36, Steve Mosley wrote:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2011/aug/22/manchester-united-kit-deal-dhl

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You'll have to explain that one to me?


   


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Re: [LU] Well, that's the last time...

[Ian Murray]

Return to sender 

Sent from my iPhone

On 7 Jul 2012, at 17:42, Peter Hudson m...@mag.net.ar wrote:

 I just saw the advert:
 
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gT0QGgd7vbg
 
 Delivering Manchester United to the world no less.
 
 On 07/07/2012 11:36, Steve Mosley wrote:
 http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2011/aug/22/manchester-united-kit-deal-dhl
 
 -Original Message-
 From: leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On 
 Behalf Of Andy Clayton
 Sent: 07 July 2012 11:23
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 Cc: leedslist@gn.apc.org
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 You'll have to explain that one to me?
 
 
   
 
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Re: [LU] Well, that's the last time...

[Robert Heath]

I saw something a few weeks ago about some researchers had figured out that
there are 639 million MU supporters in the world.

What they failed to say was that the other 6 billion 361 million people
hate them!

On 7 July 2012 18:41, Peter Hudson m...@mag.net.ar wrote:

 I just saw the advert:

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?**v=gT0QGgd7vbghttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gT0QGgd7vbg

 Delivering Manchester United to the world no less.


 On 07/07/2012 11:36, Steve Mosley wrote:

 http://www.guardian.co.uk/**football/2011/aug/22/**
 manchester-united-kit-deal-dhlhttp://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2011/aug/22/manchester-united-kit-deal-dhl

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 From: leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org 
 [mailto:leedslist-bounces@gn.**apc.orgleedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org]
 On Behalf Of Andy Clayton
 Sent: 07 July 2012 11:23
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Re: [LU] Well that's alright then

[Damian Walsh]

Reading yesterday's Guardian I see that he has been nominated for the
Premiership's best left back over the last 20 years.

Damian

On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 11:42 PM, markbu...@aol.com wrote:

 READING ARE PROMOTED TO THE PREMIER LEAGUE.

 That left back of theirs looks a good  prospect...
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Re: [LU] Well that's alright then

[Dr. Michael Benjamin.]

Are you in Homeland ? J

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Community  Psychiatrist. 

On 18 Apr 2012, at 09:56, Damian Walsh pussaydam...@gmail.com wrote:

 Reading yesterday's Guardian I see that he has been nominated for the
 Premiership's best left back over the last 20 years.
 
 Damian
 
 On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 11:42 PM, markbu...@aol.com wrote:
 
 READING ARE PROMOTED TO THE PREMIER LEAGUE.
 
 That left back of theirs looks a good  prospect...
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Re: [LU] Well that's alright then

[Tim Leslie]

 Are you in Homeland ? J

Has anyone been watching Homeland? I think it's brilliant, Damien Lewis
plays brooding menace very well!

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Re: [LU] Well that's alright then non LU

[Dr. Michael Benjamin.]

You're right. All in all a riveting series. Another one is The Good Wife. 

Sent from my iPhone. 
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On 18 Apr 2012, at 12:30, Tim Leslie t...@3leafieldvillas.co.uk wrote:

 Are you in Homeland ? J
 
 Has anyone been watching Homeland? I think it's brilliant, Damien Lewis
 plays brooding menace very well!
 
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Re: [LU] Well that's alright then

[Richard Naef]

 Are you in Homeland ? J

Has anyone been watching Homeland? I think it's brilliant, Damien Lewis
plays brooding menace very well!

Well yes it is pretty good, but for fuck sake do they have to make them so
long? - I know the reason actually its to make more money of course.  A lot
of the suspense is squeezed out by subplots and general noddling about.  I
see there is a second series planned!

They could learn a lot from something like the Shadowline on the BBC
recently, covered similar themes of betrayal but a lot more tense and
surprising.  

 Damien Lewis
plays brooding menace very well!

true, the female lead does nutjob very well.

Anyway for what it is worth I reckon Saul did it.
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 Are you in Homeland ? J

Has anyone been watching Homeland? I think it's brilliant, Damien Lewis
plays brooding menace very well!

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Re: [LU] Well that's alright then

[Nigel Barber]

Isn't it just self-serving propaganda to promote the war on terror?
All-American heroes against dem murderous A-rabs?


Nigel.


On 18 April 2012 10:53, Richard Naef rich...@triumph-computers.co.ukwrote:

  Are you in Homeland ? J
 
 Has anyone been watching Homeland? I think it's brilliant, Damien Lewis
 plays brooding menace very well!

 Well yes it is pretty good, but for fuck sake do they have to make them so
 long? - I know the reason actually its to make more money of course.  A lot
 of the suspense is squeezed out by subplots and general noddling about.  I
 see there is a second series planned!

 They could learn a lot from something like the Shadowline on the BBC
 recently, covered similar themes of betrayal but a lot more tense and
 surprising.

  Damien Lewis
 plays brooding menace very well!

 true, the female lead does nutjob very well.

 Anyway for what it is worth I reckon Saul did it.
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  Are you in Homeland ? J
 
 Has anyone been watching Homeland? I think it's brilliant, Damien Lewis
 plays brooding menace very well!
 
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Re: [LU] Well that's alright then

[Nigel Sykes]

 Isn't it just self-serving propaganda to promote the war on terror?
 All-American heroes against dem murderous A-rabs?

I watch a LOT of US shows and you certainly get to the point where the
appearance of a brown skinned guy usually signals a plot about terrorism one
way or the other.

Not a big fan of Homeland just because it is SO slow.  Would have made a
good 2-hour movie, but 8 hours???  

Also, a good point someone made about them stretching things out and ruining
them.  I remember reading that the original season of 24 was only
commissioned to be 13 episodes and when it was a success and they asked for
the remaining 11 to be written, the writers had to scramble to think of how
to finish it!  Rather put me off watching it to be honest...

Nigel

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Re: [LU] Well that's alright then

[Tim Leslie]

Unless (And I'm very open to someone putting me straight here) I'm totally
reading it wrong, but this is completely the opposite angle! The central
question is Why are we doing this and Who, if anyone, is the good guy?
There are a number of referneces that suggest the masses are being told
the whole 'Good American Bad Muslim' line because the powers that be need
this in place (a sort of 21st Century religious suppression and control),
the internet has removed the need for suppression from above and
basically, left to their own devices, An Al Quida fighter can get on quite
famously with An All American hero if you chop out the brainwashing powers
that be.
I thought it was quite clever to be honest!


 Isn't it just self-serving propaganda to promote the war on terror?
 All-American heroes against dem murderous A-rabs?

 I watch a LOT of US shows and you certainly get to the point where the
 appearance of a brown skinned guy usually signals a plot about terrorism
 one
 way or the other.

 Not a big fan of Homeland just because it is SO slow.  Would have made a
 good 2-hour movie, but 8 hours???

 Also, a good point someone made about them stretching things out and
 ruining
 them.  I remember reading that the original season of 24 was only
 commissioned to be 13 episodes and when it was a success and they asked
 for
 the remaining 11 to be written, the writers had to scramble to think of
 how
 to finish it!  Rather put me off watching it to be honest...

 Nigel

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Re: [LU] Well that's alright then non LU

[Nicholas Armit]

Enjoyed the original Homeland Heimat (not that they are connected...)



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Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2012 5:33 AM
Subject: Re: [LU] Well that's alright then non LU
 
You're right. All in all a riveting series. Another one is The Good Wife. 

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Dr Michael Benjamin. 
Community  Psychiatrist. 

On 18 Apr 2012, at 12:30, Tim Leslie t...@3leafieldvillas.co.uk wrote:

 Are you in Homeland ? J
 
 Has anyone been watching Homeland? I think it's brilliant, Damien Lewis
 plays brooding menace very well!
 
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Re: [LU] Well that's alright then

[Ed Morrish]

 Also, a good point someone made about them stretching things out and ruining
 them.  I remember reading that the original season of 24 was only
 commissioned to be 13 episodes and when it was a success and they asked for
 the remaining 11 to be written, the writers had to scramble to think of how
 to finish it!  Rather put me off watching it to be honest...

I think from then on they plotted in four-hour arcs. However, series one is 
definitely worth watching as it's about Bauer's ingenuity; by series three he 
can fly any aircraft and has an infinite bag of ammo...

You can understand the networks' desire to wring as much out of their hits as 
possible - it's expensive to develop a new show and they might not work so 
let's do THAT again... And as the show runner of Everybody Hates Chris once 
said, If more people want to watch a still shot of a glass of water than your 
programme, then say hello to The Glass Of Water Show.

We're housebound at the moment, with a two-week old daughter. So we've been 
cracking through Game of Thrones, Mad Men, Alatraz and Grimm on TV, and Psych 
and Burn Notice on DVD. I cannot in all honesty recommend any to the casual 
viewer, but GoT is worth making the effort...

Ed.
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Re: [LU] Well that's alright then

[Ian Murray]

I thought 24 was really really poor after bout 6 episodes of it being quite 
gripping. I never got through the first series and serious 2 is unopened on my 
shelves. Free to good home if buyer (bauer) will collect.

Sent from my iPhone

On 18 Apr 2012, at 13:39, Ed Morrish edmorr...@gmail.com wrote:

 Also, a good point someone made about them stretching things out and ruining
 them.  I remember reading that the original season of 24 was only
 commissioned to be 13 episodes and when it was a success and they asked for
 the remaining 11 to be written, the writers had to scramble to think of how
 to finish it!  Rather put me off watching it to be honest...
 
 I think from then on they plotted in four-hour arcs. However, series one is 
 definitely worth watching as it's about Bauer's ingenuity; by series three he 
 can fly any aircraft and has an infinite bag of ammo...
 
 You can understand the networks' desire to wring as much out of their hits as 
 possible - it's expensive to develop a new show and they might not work so 
 let's do THAT again... And as the show runner of Everybody Hates Chris once 
 said, If more people want to watch a still shot of a glass of water than your 
 programme, then say hello to The Glass Of Water Show.
 
 We're housebound at the moment, with a two-week old daughter. So we've been 
 cracking through Game of Thrones, Mad Men, Alatraz and Grimm on TV, and Psych 
 and Burn Notice on DVD. I cannot in all honesty recommend any to the casual 
 viewer, but GoT is worth making the effort...
 
 Ed.
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Re: [LU] Well that's alright then

[Nigel Sykes]

 I thought 24 was really really poor after bout 6 episodes of it 
 being quite gripping. I never got through the first series and 
 serious 2 is unopened on my shelves.

After hearing many people rave about it, I finally took the plunge with 24 a
while back.  I enjoyed Season 1, less so Season 2 and gave up on Season 3
after about 5 episodes.

Since others are giving their recommendations... of the current crop of US
dramas that we watch, the missus  I quite enjoy Blue Bloods.  Does nothing
you haven't seen before, but does it better than most.  She enjoys G.C.B.
and Hart of Dixie as well.  Not sure if they're on in the UK yet though.  I
watch loads of US comedies too - for me, Modern Family continues to be the
pick of the bunch.

Nigel



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Re: [LU] Well that's alright then

[Jeremy Adams]

Boardwalk Empire with Steve Buscemi has been my recent fave US series, not on 
at the mo but coming soon again I think. Series 3 of Game of Thrones has got 
off to a rather dull start so far.
Jeremy

  
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Re: [LU] Well that's alright then

[Damian Walsh]

After getting through the books last autumn (and waiting for the next
volume with impatience - hope it's not years like the last one...) I'm not
sure if I could watch the telly series. I don't really like the books
overall but there are some likeable characters and you always want to know
what happens next, so I suppose it was made for telly really.

If you like the not-quite-reality fantasy novels I wholeheartedly recommend
Neal Stephenson's Baroque cycle which repays the effort of getting into the
books in the first place (takes about 500 pages or so ;))

Damian

On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 3:05 PM, Jeremy Adams jeremyadam...@hotmail.comwrote:
Series 3 of Game of Thrones has got off to a rather dull start so far.

 Jeremy


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Re: [LU] Well that's alright then

[DAVID WATSON]

Agree with this wholeheartedly .  Series 1 and 2 were both tremendous. 
Looking forward to Season 3.


Always a rather high body count per episode too -  usual stabbings, 
shootings and the odd scalping!


Regards
David


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Boardwalk Empire with Steve Buscemi has been my recent fave US series, not 
on at the mo but coming soon again I think. Series 3 of Game of Thrones 
has got off to a rather dull start so far.

Jeremy


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Re: [LU] Well that's alright then

[MarkBursa]

READING ARE PROMOTED TO THE PREMIER LEAGUE.
 
That left back of theirs looks a good  prospect...
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Re: [LU] Well that's alright then

[Paul Cundell]

 
 READING ARE PROMOTED TO THE PREMIER LEAGUE.
 
 That left back of theirs looks a good  prospect...

So does the centre back - unfortunately Grayson thought so and Bates didn't


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Re: [LU] Well that's alright then

[Nicholas Armit]

Yeah pleased with this. Went to Uni there so good on them. And doubtful West 
Ham will now go up automatically so another good thing.



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READING ARE PROMOTED TO THE PREMIER LEAGUE.
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