date:20190829

RE: New Members and Moderation

2019-08-29 Thread bulkeley

Welcome to the group earl I’m sure you will be able to teach us a thing or 2 as 
well.ask any thing as many times as you need we always try to answer 

 

Bill

 

From: 'Earl Jones' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 
Sent: Friday, 30 August 2019 12:06 AM
To: Legacy Ornamental Mills 
Subject: Re: New Members and Moderation

 

Hi Tim,

I have a model 1200 mill that I purchased in 2005. I haven't been able to get a 
lot of use out of it due to unforeseen life events. I am getting ready to start 
using it again. I am strictly a hobbyist woodworker with a garage full of 
woodworking equipment. I have been a woodworker for more years than I can 
count. I do wish that I would have had my mill upgraded to a CNC mill when that 
was an option. I live just North of Houston, in Conroe, Texas. I look forward 
to picking people's brains for techniques and tricks. Ops, I hope that doesn't 
sound too goolish!   

 

Regards,

 

Earl Jones

On Saturday, March 31, 2012 at 7:07:09 PM UTC-5, Tim wrote:

Hello New Members, 

 

This is a reminder that until you post a message, your messages must be 
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messages, but please be aware it can be a very long delay.   

 

Getting off the moderated list is easy as posting a message introducing 
yourself.  Asking a question related to the equipment or posting a photo is 
always good for getting instant approval.  I still believe this is a family 
friendly place so please don't be shy.  

 

As of today, there are 63 members that have joined since 2010 that have never 
posted a message.  I sure would like to hear from them either here in this 
thread, or feel free to send me a note off the list so I can update your 
status.  

 

-Tim

 

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Re: New Members and Moderation

2019-08-29 Thread 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills

Welcome to the group Earl.
Don't worry about the goolish effect. There are NO DUMB questions here. (Well?
perhaps the only dumb question was the one not asked.) OUR goal as a group. Is
to Share, Learn and Grow. The Legacy Ornamental Mill is one tool in which we
all have chosen to use to achieve (at least in some part,) our goals to become
better then what we are, NOW. ;-).
Have a good night.
C.A.G.
On Thursday, August 29, 2019, 11:59:37 PM EDT, 'Earl Jones' via Legacy
Ornamental Mills wrote:

Hi Tim,I have a model 1200 mill that I purchased in 2005. I haven't been able
to get a lot of use out of it due to unforeseen life events. I am getting ready
to start using it again. I am strictly a hobbyist woodworker with a garage full
of woodworking equipment. I have been a woodworker for more years than I can
count. I do wish that I would have had my mill upgraded to a CNC mill when that
was an option. I live just North of Houston, in Conroe, Texas. I look forward
to picking people's brains for techniques and tricks. Ops, I hope that doesn't
sound too goolish!
Regards,
Earl Jones

On Saturday, March 31, 2012 at 7:07:09 PM UTC-5, Tim wrote:
Hello New Members, This is a reminder that until you post a message, your
messages must be approved by either an owner or moderators of this group to be
posted. Google sends an automated message to the people that are responsible
for approving messages, but please be aware it can be a very long delay.
Getting off the moderated list is easy as posting a message introducing
yourself. Asking a question related to the equipment or posting a photo is
always good for getting instant approval. I still believe this is a family
friendly place so please don't be shy. As of today, there are 63 members that
have joined since 2010 that have never posted a message. I sure would like to
hear from them either here in this thread, or feel free to send me a note off
the list so I can update your status. -Tim

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Re: TK Reciprocater long curves

2019-08-29 Thread 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills

Hey that everyone. (Just got home from work.)
Genius??? Not me ! Perhaps clever? or persistent could describe me better.(
How about just LUCKY? I have some smart friends who help me out went they
can... ) ;-)
Tim the slide and piston arm on the lead screw would be very easy to MAKE, but
you would not be able to slow down the wave length, the only thing you would be
able to do is effect the wave width. The Only way, I have been able to
lengthen the wave is with , One a larger duplex gear, and Two, slowing down the
gears, by the use of the poor mans gear multiplier..
Now the term Genius,would fit you better. After all the Acme screw, which the
Legacy uses, is not used very much in the OT world. this is why the Atkinson
Reciprocator only has adjustment for the wave width in the design.It was you
who saw how to pair the two up to make your sign wave patterns.NOW you have me
thinking... I need more time to think about your idea... There may be some
method , that I do not see at this time..?
Im going to have to sleep on it. (It's late for me, I am going to hit the hay
now.)
Have a good night.
C.A.G.

On Thursday, August 29, 2019, 07:19:07 PM EDT, artmarbles
wrote:

Too kind Bill. I'm just trying to add to the conversation so others can run
with it. After all, it was my words that made Curt understand the process that
he was able to build a version before seeing mine. Either he is a genius or I'm
really good at describing things. Maybe a bit of both.
Thanks for the complement.
Tim

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Re: New Members and Moderation

2019-08-29 Thread 'Earl Jones' via Legacy Ornamental Mills

Hi Tim,
I have a model 1200 mill that I purchased in 2005. I haven't been able to 
get a lot of use out of it due to unforeseen life events. I am getting 
ready to start using it again. I am strictly a hobbyist woodworker with a 
garage full of woodworking equipment. I have been a woodworker for more 
years than I can count. I do wish that I would have had my mill upgraded to 
a CNC mill when that was an option. I live just North of Houston, in 
Conroe, Texas. I look forward to picking people's brains for techniques and 
tricks. Ops, I hope that doesn't sound too goolish!   

Regards,

Earl Jones

On Saturday, March 31, 2012 at 7:07:09 PM UTC-5, Tim wrote:
>
> Hello New Members, 
>  
> This is a reminder that until you post a message, your messages must be 
> approved by either an owner or moderators of this group to be 
> posted.  Google sends an automated message to the people that 
> are responsible for approving messages, but please be aware it can be a 
> very long delay.   
>  
> Getting off the moderated list is easy as posting a message introducing 
> yourself.  Asking a question related to the equipment or posting a photo is 
> always good for getting instant approval.  I still believe this is a family 
> friendly place so please don't be shy.  
>  
> As of today, there are 63 members that have joined since 2010 that have 
> never posted a message.  I sure would like to hear from them either here in 
> this thread, or feel free to send me a note off the list so I can update 
> your status.  
>  
> -Tim
>  
>

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RE: TK Reciprocater long curves

2019-08-29 Thread artmarbles

Too kind Bill.  I'm just trying to add to the conversation so others can run 
with it.  After all, it was my words that made Curt understand the process that 
he was able to build a version before seeing mine. Either he is a genius or I'm 
really good at describing things. Maybe a bit of both.Thanks for the 
complement. Tim
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RE: TK Reciprocater long curves

2019-08-29 Thread bulkeley

As usual we have to hang our heads master yoda as you continue to display you 
are always the master legacy jedi  ha ha 

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Tim Krause
Sent: Friday, 30 August 2019 2:47 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: TK Reciprocater long curves

 

Hi Curt, I hate to call you out on this, but the wave attachment / TK 
Reciprocator is not our exclusive item.  As you know, it was inspired by the 
Atkinson Reciprocator.  What makes it unique to our group is the ease of using 
a router to cut the pattern.  When can cut it deeper than the traditional 
equipment.  We can make the pattern on larger pieces, but I'll never claim that 
it is exclusive.

Now what has not been revealed by myself is that the reciprocator does not have 
to bemounted on the duplex gear. It can be mounted on the leadscrew as 
well. One iteration of my design used that method.  It's also possible to make 
changes to the pattern as rarely discussed by changing the number of teeth on 
the duplex gear.  I did also have a method of of creating a fool proof DNA 
pattern based on flipping the adjustment rail 180 degrees.  That way tooth 
count and marking of the gears would not be needed. Since it was such a limited 
use feature, I never got around to implementing it. 

Hey Richard, I'm still not seeing the picture.  Did you attach it? You want to 
know what I think regarding making it more fancy? You made a pattern that I 
have never dreamed possible and your asking me? I have not made anything with 
the reciprocator for over 5 years! MAYBE its time to revisit the device from a 
different set of parameters like you are thinking. I do think that Bill is 
correct in saying 90 degrees of twist is the maximum. It would depend on the 
pitch mostly, not the amplitude.  Again, it's something I would have to look at 
again, but it's very low on my list of things to do. Probably right next to the 
colonoscopy! Hahahaha.

Tim

On Aug 29, 2019, at 8:24 AM, Richard Ellis mailto:rchrd.ell...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Hi Tim

Not the pic I meant to put on, but the finished article !

How right you are, ---so i stopped thinking and did my wave pattern. It is on a 
piece of wood about 1 3/4 inc dia. and is a three wave one way and then a 
reverse three. Looks o.k. but maybee should have been a little deeper   (Me 
thinks )

You can see that is the highest wave that I can get until I lengthen the piston 
rod.Don't know what you think and can I make it more fancy

Richard

On Thursday, August 29, 2019 at 12:22:10 PM UTC+1, Tim wrote:

I was about to say that you all are thinking way too much anyway!

On Aug 29, 2019, at 4:19 AM, Richard Ellis  > 
wrote:

Tim 

I posted a reply to a previous answer and it included the pic,

 So this reply I thought wood have included the pic

I shall have to stop thinking !!! and put the pic up again

Richard

On Thursday, August 29, 2019 at 12:06:39 PM UTC+1, Tim wrote:

Am I the only one that does not see a picture or an attachment? 

 

 

 

Sent from Samsung tablet

 

 Original message 

From: Richard Ellis mailto:rchrd...@gmail.com> > 

Date: 8/28/19 11:49 PM (GMT-08:00) 

To: Legacy Ornamental Mills mailto:legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com> > 

Subject: Re: TK Reciprocater long curves 

 

Hi

 Here is the pic of my maximum height of wave. I don't need to go to the 
extreme but do need the waves to be more exaggerated i:e more stormy---just 
want to rock the boat! Hence a longer piston rod , When I get one made .

Richard 

On Tuesday, August 20, 2019 at 5:54:51 PM UTC+1, Richard Ellis wrote:

Here is a pic of the curves There are five curves and I was thinking of putting 
a straight groove in between. All good practice !!

On Tuesday, August 20, 2019 at 10:52:58 AM UTC+1, aussiman wrote:

Looks good so far 

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com   
mailto:legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com> > On 
Behalf Of Richard Ellis
Sent: Tuesday, 20 August 2019 4:59 PM
To: Legacy Ornamental Mills 
Subject: Re: TK Reciprocater long curves

 

Just taken a quick pic of the basic (start ) of a coat and hat stand.

It is 38 inches long X2 inch dia. May decde to make dia smaller !!! It of 
course only approx half of the stand height.

The four inch TK curve will be spaced eqidistance around the dia. but will have 
a straight flute between each curve,

Will take more pics Later if time permits !!??

On Tuesday, August 20, 2019 at 7:09:38 AM UTC+1, Richard Ellis wrote:

Hi Bill Tim & Curt

I will have to settle for a 4 inch curve When I have time to change the TK to 
the 2X .Need a different gear set up for anything longer ( Not LOM )

I will update you when I take a pic of the wood I am using and it's purpose 
also the dimensions.

Bit too busy at the present time to do much with the Revo or 900.

Richard

On Sunday, August 18, 2019 at 5:38:02 PM UTC+1, Curt George wrote:

Re: TK Reciprocater long curves

2019-08-29 Thread Tim Krause

Hi Curt, I hate to call you out on this, but the wave attachment / TK 
Reciprocator is not our exclusive item.  As you know, it was inspired by the 
Atkinson Reciprocator.  What makes it unique to our group is the ease of using 
a router to cut the pattern.  When can cut it deeper than the traditional 
equipment.  We can make the pattern on larger pieces, but I'll never claim that 
it is exclusive.

Now what has not been revealed by myself is that the reciprocator does not have 
to be    mounted on the duplex gear. It can be mounted on the leadscrew as 
well. One iteration of my design used that method.  It's also possible to make 
changes to the pattern as rarely discussed by changing the number of teeth on 
the duplex gear.  I did also have a method of of creating a fool proof DNA 
pattern based on flipping the adjustment rail 180 degrees.  That way tooth 
count and marking of the gears would not be needed. Since it was such a limited 
use feature, I never got around to implementing it. 

Hey Richard, I'm still not seeing the picture.  Did you attach it? You want to 
know what I think regarding making it more fancy? You made a pattern that I 
have never dreamed possible and your asking me? I have not made anything with 
the reciprocator for over 5 years! MAYBE its time to revisit the device from a 
different set of parameters like you are thinking. I do think that Bill is 
correct in saying 90 degrees of twist is the maximum. It would depend on the 
pitch mostly, not the amplitude.  Again, it's something I would have to look at 
again, but it's very low on my list of things to do. Probably right next to the 
colonoscopy! Hahahaha.

Tim

On Aug 29, 2019, 8:24 AM, at 8:24 AM, Richard Ellis  
wrote:
>Hi Tim
>Not the pic I meant to put on, but the finished article !
>How right you are, ---so i stopped thinking and did my wave pattern. It
>is 
>on a piece of wood about 1 3/4 inc dia. and is a three wave one way and
>
>then a reverse three. Looks o.k. but maybee should have been a little 
>deeper   (Me thinks )
>You can see that is the highest wave that I can get until I lengthen
>the 
>piston rod.Don't know what you *think* and can I make it more fancy
>Richard
>
>On Thursday, August 29, 2019 at 12:22:10 PM UTC+1, Tim wrote:
>>
>> I was about to say that you all are thinking way too much anyway!
>> On Aug 29, 2019, at 4:19 AM, Richard Ellis > > wrote:
>>>
>>> Tim 
>>> I posted a reply to a previous answer and it included the pic,
>>>  So this reply I* thought* wood have included the pic
>>> I shall have to stop thinking !!! and put the pic up again
>>> Richard
>>>
>>> On Thursday, August 29, 2019 at 12:06:39 PM UTC+1, Tim wrote:

 Am I the only one that does not see a picture or an attachment? 

 Sent from Samsung tablet

  Original message 
 From: Richard Ellis  
 Date: 8/28/19 11:49 PM (GMT-08:00) 
 To: Legacy Ornamental Mills  
 Subject: Re: TK Reciprocater long curves 

 Hi
  Here is the pic of my maximum height of wave. I don't need to go
>to the 
 extreme but do need the waves to be more exaggerated i:e more 
 stormy---just want to rock the boat! Hence a longer piston
>rod , 
 When I get one made .
 Richard 

 On Tuesday, August 20, 2019 at 5:54:51 PM UTC+1, Richard Ellis
>wrote:
>
> Here is a pic of the curves There are five curves and I was
>thinking of 
> putting a straight groove in between. All good practice !!
>
> On Tuesday, August 20, 2019 at 10:52:58 AM UTC+1, aussiman wrote:
>>
>> Looks good so far 
>>
>>  
>>
>> Bill
>>
>>  
>>
>> *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com <
>> legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Richard Ellis
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, 20 August 2019 4:59 PM
>> *To:* Legacy Ornamental Mills 
>> *Subject:* Re: TK Reciprocater long curves
>>
>>  
>>
>> Just taken a quick pic of the basic (start ) of a coat and hat
>stand.
>>
>> It is 38 inches long X2 inch dia. May decde to make dia smaller
>!!! It 
>> of course only approx half of the stand height.
>>
>> The four inch TK curve will be spaced eqidistance around the dia.
>but 
>> will have a straight flute between each curve,
>>
>> Will take more pics Later if time permits !!??
>>
>> On Tuesday, August 20, 2019 at 7:09:38 AM UTC+1, Richard Ellis
>wrote:
>>
>> Hi Bill Tim & Curt
>>
>> I will have to settle for a 4 inch curve When I have time to
>change 
>> the TK to the 2X .Need a different gear set up for anything
>longer ( Not 
>> LOM )
>>
>> I will update you when I take a pic of the wood I am using and
>it's 
>> purpose also the dimensions.
>>
>> Bit too busy at the present time to do much with the Revo or 900.
>>
>> Richard
>>
>> On Sunday, August 18, 2019 at 5:38:02 PM UTC+1, Curt George
>wrote:
>>
>> Here

RE: TK Reciprocater long curves

2019-08-29 Thread bulkeley

Richard none of your pictures are coming through on the emails copy and attach 
them to the emails before you end them

 

Bill

 

 

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Richard Ellis
Sent: Friday, 30 August 2019 1:24 AM
To: Legacy Ornamental Mills 
Subject: Re: TK Reciprocater long curves

 

Hi Tim

Not the pic I meant to put on, but the finished article !

How right you are, ---so i stopped thinking and did my wave pattern. It is on a 
piece of wood about 1 3/4 inc dia. and is a three wave one way and then a 
reverse three. Looks o.k. but maybee should have been a little deeper   (Me 
thinks )

You can see that is the highest wave that I can get until I lengthen the piston 
rod.Don't know what you think and can I make it more fancy

Richard

On Thursday, August 29, 2019 at 12:22:10 PM UTC+1, Tim wrote:

I was about to say that you all are thinking way too much anyway!

On Aug 29, 2019, at 4:19 AM, Richard Ellis  > 
wrote:

Tim 

I posted a reply to a previous answer and it included the pic,

 So this reply I thought wood have included the pic

I shall have to stop thinking !!! and put the pic up again

Richard

On Thursday, August 29, 2019 at 12:06:39 PM UTC+1, Tim wrote:

Am I the only one that does not see a picture or an attachment? 

 

 

 

Sent from Samsung tablet

 

 Original message 

From: Richard Ellis mailto:rchrd...@gmail.com> > 

Date: 8/28/19 11:49 PM (GMT-08:00) 

To: Legacy Ornamental Mills mailto:legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com> > 

Subject: Re: TK Reciprocater long curves 

 

Hi

 Here is the pic of my maximum height of wave. I don't need to go to the 
extreme but do need the waves to be more exaggerated i:e more stormy---just 
want to rock the boat! Hence a longer piston rod , When I get one made .

Richard 

On Tuesday, August 20, 2019 at 5:54:51 PM UTC+1, Richard Ellis wrote:

Here is a pic of the curves There are five curves and I was thinking of putting 
a straight groove in between. All good practice !!

On Tuesday, August 20, 2019 at 10:52:58 AM UTC+1, aussiman wrote:

Looks good so far 

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com   
mailto:legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com> > On 
Behalf Of Richard Ellis
Sent: Tuesday, 20 August 2019 4:59 PM
To: Legacy Ornamental Mills mailto:legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com> >
Subject: Re: TK Reciprocater long curves

 

Just taken a quick pic of the basic (start ) of a coat and hat stand.

It is 38 inches long X2 inch dia. May decde to make dia smaller !!! It of 
course only approx half of the stand height.

The four inch TK curve will be spaced eqidistance around the dia. but will have 
a straight flute between each curve,

Will take more pics Later if time permits !!??

On Tuesday, August 20, 2019 at 7:09:38 AM UTC+1, Richard Ellis wrote:

Hi Bill Tim & Curt

I will have to settle for a 4 inch curve When I have time to change the TK to 
the 2X .Need a different gear set up for anything longer ( Not LOM )

I will update you when I take a pic of the wood I am using and it's purpose 
also the dimensions.

Bit too busy at the present time to do much with the Revo or 900.

Richard

On Sunday, August 18, 2019 at 5:38:02 PM UTC+1, Curt George wrote:

Here is the longest pitch with a wave that I have done. Is this like what you 
want to make?

C.A.G.

  

 

On Sunday, August 18, 2019, 11:12:04 AM EDT, 'Curt George' via Legacy 
Ornamental Mills mailto:legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com> > wrote: 

 

 

Good morning.

Richard, What router bit are you using?

 

What Tim and Bill already said are correct. but the type of cut you make also 
makes the wave look different.  depending on the diameter of the work piece and 
the cutter's size, as well as the depth of your cut will give you different 
looks. And also will the method of cutting. (Cutting for the top vs cutting 
form the side of the wood will also change the look.)

 

Here are a few different looks you can get with a long pitch and different 
cutters.

 

C.A.G. 

 

On Sunday, August 18, 2019, 07:53:29 AM EDT, mailto:bulk...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote: 

 

 

If I remember correctly the wave or zigzag the biggest you can achieve as it 
travels along is around 90 degrees so virtually no degrees to 90.

 

But the pitch how long the waves are governed  by the pitch just the same as 
spirals are so do some waves at different pitches and see, so my guess would be 
yes 2x would give 4 inch  . please report how you go I would be greatly 
interested to see, if it wasn’t so dam cold here out in the shop I would try a 
few and report back.

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com   
mailto:legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com> > On 
Behalf Of Richard Ellis
Sent: Sunday, 18 August 2019 7:47 PM
To: Legacy Ornamental Mills

Re: Round 2: Woodchuck for sale

2019-08-29 Thread Rick Waters

Well, Steve Drake has expressed an interest also.
I'm not too concerned as to who gets it, rather that it doesn't wind up in
a dumpster.
Steve, can you chime in as to if you are going to be able to pick it up?

On Thu, Aug 29, 2019 at 10:47 AM 'Bill Hallow' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Rick,
>If it’s not already spoken for I would like to have it.   I live close
> enough to York for it to be an easy pick it up.  I will be in York on
> September 16 which will be the most convenient time for me to pick it up,
> but if necessary I could make a separate trip next week to pick it up.
>Bill Hallow
>
>
> On Wednesday, August 28, 2019, 05:07:15 PM EDT, Ray Leaman <
> view...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> OK.  Thanks.  I'll pass.
>
> On Friday, July 19, 2019 at 3:01:03 PM UTC-4, Rick Waters wrote:
>
> OK, so I won that auction, where the "flutter" (LOL) or more
> appropriately, the Woodchuck, was for sale on IRS Auctions.  I got it for a
> steal, $50.  $72 total, with tax and stuff.  But, I'm not sure why I
> thought it was located in Indian, but I did.  It's actually in York, PA.
>
> It's going to cost way too much for me to go to York, pick it up and
> transport it back.  Also, it's not worth it to pay someone to package it up
> and ship it.
>
> So...  It may be your lucky day!  If you are near enough to York, PA, to
> pick it up.  You can have this 'parts' machine for the low, low price of 1
> Thank You.  I know it's a high price for some, but that's the price.  Firm
> :)
>
> I might be able to send pic, if I can still access the auction.  But, it's
> an old woodchuck with a crank handle.  Plus an external motor attached to
> the large gear.  Original stand included.
>
> Rick W.
>
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Re: Round 2: Woodchuck for sale

2019-08-29 Thread 'Bill Hallow' via Legacy Ornamental Mills

Rick,
If it’s not already spoken for I would like to have it. I live close
enough to York for it to be an easy pick it up. I will be in York on September
16 which will be the most convenient time for me to pick it up, but if
necessary I could make a separate trip next week to pick it up.
Bill Hallow

On Wednesday, August 28, 2019, 05:07:15 PM EDT, Ray Leaman
wrote:

OK. Thanks. I'll pass.

On Friday, July 19, 2019 at 3:01:03 PM UTC-4, Rick Waters wrote:
OK, so I won that auction, where the "flutter" (LOL) or more appropriately, the
Woodchuck, was for sale on IRS Auctions. I got it for a steal, $50. $72
total, with tax and stuff. But, I'm not sure why I thought it was located in
Indian, but I did. It's actually in York, PA.
It's going to cost way too much for me to go to York, pick it up and transport
it back. Also, it's not worth it to pay someone to package it up and ship it.
So... It may be your lucky day! If you are near enough to York, PA, to pick
it up. You can have this 'parts' machine for the low, low price of 1 Thank
You. I know it's a high price for some, but that's the price. Firm :)
I might be able to send pic, if I can still access the auction. But, it's an
old woodchuck with a crank handle. Plus an external motor attached to the
large gear. Original stand included.
Rick W.

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Re: TK Reciprocater long curves

2019-08-29 Thread Richard Ellis

Hi Tim
Not the pic I meant to put on, but the finished article !
How right you are, ---so i stopped thinking and did my wave pattern. It is 
on a piece of wood about 1 3/4 inc dia. and is a three wave one way and 
then a reverse three. Looks o.k. but maybee should have been a little 
deeper   (Me thinks )
You can see that is the highest wave that I can get until I lengthen the 
piston rod.Don't know what you *think* and can I make it more fancy
Richard

On Thursday, August 29, 2019 at 12:22:10 PM UTC+1, Tim wrote:
>
> I was about to say that you all are thinking way too much anyway!
> On Aug 29, 2019, at 4:19 AM, Richard Ellis  > wrote:
>>
>> Tim 
>> I posted a reply to a previous answer and it included the pic,
>>  So this reply I* thought* wood have included the pic
>> I shall have to stop thinking !!! and put the pic up again
>> Richard
>>
>> On Thursday, August 29, 2019 at 12:06:39 PM UTC+1, Tim wrote:
>>>
>>> Am I the only one that does not see a picture or an attachment? 
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent from Samsung tablet
>>>
>>>  Original message 
>>> From: Richard Ellis  
>>> Date: 8/28/19 11:49 PM (GMT-08:00) 
>>> To: Legacy Ornamental Mills  
>>> Subject: Re: TK Reciprocater long curves 
>>>
>>> Hi
>>>  Here is the pic of my maximum height of wave. I don't need to go to the 
>>> extreme but do need the waves to be more exaggerated i:e more 
>>> stormy---just want to rock the boat! Hence a longer piston rod , 
>>> When I get one made .
>>> Richard 
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, August 20, 2019 at 5:54:51 PM UTC+1, Richard Ellis wrote:

 Here is a pic of the curves There are five curves and I was thinking of 
 putting a straight groove in between. All good practice !!

 On Tuesday, August 20, 2019 at 10:52:58 AM UTC+1, aussiman wrote:
>
> Looks good so far 
>
>  
>
> Bill
>
>  
>
> *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Richard Ellis
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 20 August 2019 4:59 PM
> *To:* Legacy Ornamental Mills 
> *Subject:* Re: TK Reciprocater long curves
>
>  
>
> Just taken a quick pic of the basic (start ) of a coat and hat stand.
>
> It is 38 inches long X2 inch dia. May decde to make dia smaller !!! It 
> of course only approx half of the stand height.
>
> The four inch TK curve will be spaced eqidistance around the dia. but 
> will have a straight flute between each curve,
>
> Will take more pics Later if time permits !!??
>
> On Tuesday, August 20, 2019 at 7:09:38 AM UTC+1, Richard Ellis wrote:
>
> Hi Bill Tim & Curt
>
> I will have to settle for a 4 inch curve When I have time to change 
> the TK to the 2X .Need a different gear set up for anything longer ( Not 
> LOM )
>
> I will update you when I take a pic of the wood I am using and it's 
> purpose also the dimensions.
>
> Bit too busy at the present time to do much with the Revo or 900.
>
> Richard
>
> On Sunday, August 18, 2019 at 5:38:02 PM UTC+1, Curt George wrote:
>
> Here is the longest pitch with a wave that I have done. Is this like 
> what you want to make?
>
> C.A.G.
>
> [image: Inline image]
>
> On Sunday, August 18, 2019, 11:12:04 AM EDT, 'Curt George' via Legacy 
> Ornamental Mills  wrote: 
>
>  
>
>  
>
> Good morning.
>
> Richard, What router bit are you using?
>
>  
>
> What Tim and Bill already said are correct. but the type of cut you 
> make also makes the wave look different.  depending on the diameter of 
> the 
> work piece and the cutter's size, as well as the depth of your cut will 
> give you different looks. And also will the method of cutting. (Cutting 
> for 
> the top vs cutting form the side of the wood will also change the look.)
>
>  
>
> Here are a few different looks you can get with a long pitch and 
> different cutters.
>
>  
>
> C.A.G. 
>
>  
>
> On Sunday, August 18, 2019, 07:53:29 AM EDT,  
> wrote: 
>
>  
>
>  
>
> If I remember correctly the wave or zigzag the biggest you can achieve 
> as it travels along is around 90 degrees so virtually no degrees to 90.
>
>  
>
> But the pitch how long the waves are governed  by the pitch just the 
> same as spirals are so do some waves at different pitches and see, so my 
> guess would be yes 2x would give 4 inch  . please report how you go I 
> would 
> be greatly interested to see, if it wasn’t so dam cold here out in the 
> shop 
> I would try a few and report back.
>
>  
>
> Bill
>
>  
>
> *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Richard Ellis
> *Sent:* Sunday, 18 August 2019 7:47 PM

Re: TK Reciprocater long curves

2019-08-29 Thread Tim Krause

I was about to say that you all are thinking way too much anyway!

On Aug 29, 2019, 4:19 AM, at 4:19 AM, Richard Ellis  
wrote:
>Tim 
>I posted a reply to a previous answer and it included the pic,
> So this reply I* thought* wood have included the pic
>I shall have to stop thinking !!! and put the pic up again
>Richard
>
>On Thursday, August 29, 2019 at 12:06:39 PM UTC+1, Tim wrote:
>>
>> Am I the only one that does not see a picture or an attachment? 
>>
>>
>>
>> Sent from Samsung tablet
>>
>>  Original message 
>> From: Richard Ellis > 
>> Date: 8/28/19 11:49 PM (GMT-08:00) 
>> To: Legacy Ornamental Mills > 
>>
>> Subject: Re: TK Reciprocater long curves 
>>
>> Hi
>>  Here is the pic of my maximum height of wave. I don't need to go to
>the 
>> extreme but do need the waves to be more exaggerated i:e more 
>> stormy---just want to rock the boat! Hence a longer piston
>rod , 
>> When I get one made .
>> Richard 
>>
>> On Tuesday, August 20, 2019 at 5:54:51 PM UTC+1, Richard Ellis wrote:
>>>
>>> Here is a pic of the curves There are five curves and I was thinking
>of 
>>> putting a straight groove in between. All good practice !!
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, August 20, 2019 at 10:52:58 AM UTC+1, aussiman wrote:

 Looks good so far 

  

 Bill

  

 *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com
> 
 *On Behalf Of *Richard Ellis
 *Sent:* Tuesday, 20 August 2019 4:59 PM
 *To:* Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 *Subject:* Re: TK Reciprocater long curves

  

 Just taken a quick pic of the basic (start ) of a coat and hat
>stand.

 It is 38 inches long X2 inch dia. May decde to make dia smaller !!!
>It 
 of course only approx half of the stand height.

 The four inch TK curve will be spaced eqidistance around the dia.
>but 
 will have a straight flute between each curve,

 Will take more pics Later if time permits !!??

 On Tuesday, August 20, 2019 at 7:09:38 AM UTC+1, Richard Ellis
>wrote:

 Hi Bill Tim & Curt

 I will have to settle for a 4 inch curve When I have time to change
>the 
 TK to the 2X .Need a different gear set up for anything longer (
>Not LOM )

 I will update you when I take a pic of the wood I am using and it's
>
 purpose also the dimensions.

 Bit too busy at the present time to do much with the Revo or 900.

 Richard

 On Sunday, August 18, 2019 at 5:38:02 PM UTC+1, Curt George wrote:

 Here is the longest pitch with a wave that I have done. Is this
>like 
 what you want to make?

 C.A.G.

 [image: Inline image]

 On Sunday, August 18, 2019, 11:12:04 AM EDT, 'Curt George' via
>Legacy 
 Ornamental Mills  wrote: 

  

  

 Good morning.

 Richard, What router bit are you using?

  

 What Tim and Bill already said are correct. but the type of cut you
>make 
 also makes the wave look different.  depending on the diameter of
>the work 
 piece and the cutter's size, as well as the depth of your cut will
>give you 
 different looks. And also will the method of cutting. (Cutting for
>the top 
 vs cutting form the side of the wood will also change the look.)

  

 Here are a few different looks you can get with a long pitch and 
 different cutters.

  

 C.A.G. 

  

 On Sunday, August 18, 2019, 07:53:29 AM EDT, 
>
 wrote: 

  

  

 If I remember correctly the wave or zigzag the biggest you can
>achieve 
 as it travels along is around 90 degrees so virtually no degrees to
>90.

  

 But the pitch how long the waves are governed  by the pitch just
>the 
 same as spirals are so do some waves at different pitches and see,
>so my 
 guess would be yes 2x would give 4 inch  . please report how you go
>I would 
 be greatly interested to see, if it wasn’t so dam cold here out in
>the shop 
 I would try a few and report back.

  

 Bill

  

 *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com
> 
 *On Behalf Of *Richard Ellis
 *Sent:* Sunday, 18 August 2019 7:47 PM
 *To:* Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 *Subject:* TK Reciprocater long curves

  

 Hi all you LOM experts

 I am trying to do a long (approx ) 6 inch flute with the TK at
>present 
 with the standard index gear I get a 2 inch point to point curve 

 If I change to the 2X gear I think it will only give me a four inch
>
 point to point  --- I have not tried but it's my guess !!

 Am I trying to do the impossible???

 Richard

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Re: TK Reciprocater long curves

2019-08-29 Thread Richard Ellis

Tim 
I posted a reply to a previous answer and it included the pic,
 So this reply I* thought* wood have included the pic
I shall have to stop thinking !!! and put the pic up again
Richard

On Thursday, August 29, 2019 at 12:06:39 PM UTC+1, Tim wrote:
>
> Am I the only one that does not see a picture or an attachment? 
>
>
>
> Sent from Samsung tablet
>
>  Original message 
> From: Richard Ellis > 
> Date: 8/28/19 11:49 PM (GMT-08:00) 
> To: Legacy Ornamental Mills > 
>
> Subject: Re: TK Reciprocater long curves 
>
> Hi
>  Here is the pic of my maximum height of wave. I don't need to go to the 
> extreme but do need the waves to be more exaggerated i:e more 
> stormy---just want to rock the boat! Hence a longer piston rod , 
> When I get one made .
> Richard 
>
> On Tuesday, August 20, 2019 at 5:54:51 PM UTC+1, Richard Ellis wrote:
>>
>> Here is a pic of the curves There are five curves and I was thinking of 
>> putting a straight groove in between. All good practice !!
>>
>> On Tuesday, August 20, 2019 at 10:52:58 AM UTC+1, aussiman wrote:
>>>
>>> Looks good so far 
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> Bill
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com  
>>> *On Behalf Of *Richard Ellis
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, 20 August 2019 4:59 PM
>>> *To:* Legacy Ornamental Mills 
>>> *Subject:* Re: TK Reciprocater long curves
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> Just taken a quick pic of the basic (start ) of a coat and hat stand.
>>>
>>> It is 38 inches long X2 inch dia. May decde to make dia smaller !!! It 
>>> of course only approx half of the stand height.
>>>
>>> The four inch TK curve will be spaced eqidistance around the dia. but 
>>> will have a straight flute between each curve,
>>>
>>> Will take more pics Later if time permits !!??
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, August 20, 2019 at 7:09:38 AM UTC+1, Richard Ellis wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Bill Tim & Curt
>>>
>>> I will have to settle for a 4 inch curve When I have time to change the 
>>> TK to the 2X .Need a different gear set up for anything longer ( Not LOM )
>>>
>>> I will update you when I take a pic of the wood I am using and it's 
>>> purpose also the dimensions.
>>>
>>> Bit too busy at the present time to do much with the Revo or 900.
>>>
>>> Richard
>>>
>>> On Sunday, August 18, 2019 at 5:38:02 PM UTC+1, Curt George wrote:
>>>
>>> Here is the longest pitch with a wave that I have done. Is this like 
>>> what you want to make?
>>>
>>> C.A.G.
>>>
>>> [image: Inline image]
>>>
>>> On Sunday, August 18, 2019, 11:12:04 AM EDT, 'Curt George' via Legacy 
>>> Ornamental Mills  wrote: 
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> Good morning.
>>>
>>> Richard, What router bit are you using?
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> What Tim and Bill already said are correct. but the type of cut you make 
>>> also makes the wave look different.  depending on the diameter of the work 
>>> piece and the cutter's size, as well as the depth of your cut will give you 
>>> different looks. And also will the method of cutting. (Cutting for the top 
>>> vs cutting form the side of the wood will also change the look.)
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> Here are a few different looks you can get with a long pitch and 
>>> different cutters.
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> C.A.G. 
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> On Sunday, August 18, 2019, 07:53:29 AM EDT,  
>>> wrote: 
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> If I remember correctly the wave or zigzag the biggest you can achieve 
>>> as it travels along is around 90 degrees so virtually no degrees to 90.
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> But the pitch how long the waves are governed  by the pitch just the 
>>> same as spirals are so do some waves at different pitches and see, so my 
>>> guess would be yes 2x would give 4 inch  . please report how you go I would 
>>> be greatly interested to see, if it wasn’t so dam cold here out in the shop 
>>> I would try a few and report back.
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> Bill
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com  
>>> *On Behalf Of *Richard Ellis
>>> *Sent:* Sunday, 18 August 2019 7:47 PM
>>> *To:* Legacy Ornamental Mills 
>>> *Subject:* TK Reciprocater long curves
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> Hi all you LOM experts
>>>
>>> I am trying to do a long (approx ) 6 inch flute with the TK at present 
>>> with the standard index gear I get a 2 inch point to point curve 
>>>
>>> If I change to the 2X gear I think it will only give me a four inch 
>>> point to point  --- I have not tried but it's my guess !!
>>>
>>> Am I trying to do the impossible???
>>>
>>> Richard
>>>
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Re: TK Reciprocater long curves

2019-08-29 Thread Richard Ellis

Hi
 Here is the pic of my maximum height of wave. I don't need to go to the 
extreme but do need the waves to be more exaggerated i:e more 
stormy---just want to rock the boat! Hence a longer piston rod , 
When I get one made .
Richard 

On Tuesday, August 20, 2019 at 5:54:51 PM UTC+1, Richard Ellis wrote:
>
> Here is a pic of the curves There are five curves and I was thinking of 
> putting a straight groove in between. All good practice !!
>
> On Tuesday, August 20, 2019 at 10:52:58 AM UTC+1, aussiman wrote:
>>
>> Looks good so far 
>>
>>  
>>
>> Bill
>>
>>  
>>
>> *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com  
>> *On Behalf Of *Richard Ellis
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, 20 August 2019 4:59 PM
>> *To:* Legacy Ornamental Mills 
>> *Subject:* Re: TK Reciprocater long curves
>>
>>  
>>
>> Just taken a quick pic of the basic (start ) of a coat and hat stand.
>>
>> It is 38 inches long X2 inch dia. May decde to make dia smaller !!! It of 
>> course only approx half of the stand height.
>>
>> The four inch TK curve will be spaced eqidistance around the dia. but 
>> will have a straight flute between each curve,
>>
>> Will take more pics Later if time permits !!??
>>
>> On Tuesday, August 20, 2019 at 7:09:38 AM UTC+1, Richard Ellis wrote:
>>
>> Hi Bill Tim & Curt
>>
>> I will have to settle for a 4 inch curve When I have time to change the 
>> TK to the 2X .Need a different gear set up for anything longer ( Not LOM )
>>
>> I will update you when I take a pic of the wood I am using and it's 
>> purpose also the dimensions.
>>
>> Bit too busy at the present time to do much with the Revo or 900.
>>
>> Richard
>>
>> On Sunday, August 18, 2019 at 5:38:02 PM UTC+1, Curt George wrote:
>>
>> Here is the longest pitch with a wave that I have done. Is this like what 
>> you want to make?
>>
>> C.A.G.
>>
>> [image: Inline image]
>>
>> On Sunday, August 18, 2019, 11:12:04 AM EDT, 'Curt George' via Legacy 
>> Ornamental Mills  wrote: 
>>
>>  
>>
>>  
>>
>> Good morning.
>>
>> Richard, What router bit are you using?
>>
>>  
>>
>> What Tim and Bill already said are correct. but the type of cut you make 
>> also makes the wave look different.  depending on the diameter of the work 
>> piece and the cutter's size, as well as the depth of your cut will give you 
>> different looks. And also will the method of cutting. (Cutting for the top 
>> vs cutting form the side of the wood will also change the look.)
>>
>>  
>>
>> Here are a few different looks you can get with a long pitch and 
>> different cutters.
>>
>>  
>>
>> C.A.G. 
>>
>>  
>>
>> On Sunday, August 18, 2019, 07:53:29 AM EDT,  
>> wrote: 
>>
>>  
>>
>>  
>>
>> If I remember correctly the wave or zigzag the biggest you can achieve as 
>> it travels along is around 90 degrees so virtually no degrees to 90.
>>
>>  
>>
>> But the pitch how long the waves are governed  by the pitch just the same 
>> as spirals are so do some waves at different pitches and see, so my guess 
>> would be yes 2x would give 4 inch  . please report how you go I would be 
>> greatly interested to see, if it wasn’t so dam cold here out in the shop I 
>> would try a few and report back.
>>
>>  
>>
>> Bill
>>
>>  
>>
>> *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com  
>> *On Behalf Of *Richard Ellis
>> *Sent:* Sunday, 18 August 2019 7:47 PM
>> *To:* Legacy Ornamental Mills 
>> *Subject:* TK Reciprocater long curves
>>
>>  
>>
>> Hi all you LOM experts
>>
>> I am trying to do a long (approx ) 6 inch flute with the TK at present 
>> with the standard index gear I get a 2 inch point to point curve 
>>
>> If I change to the 2X gear I think it will only give me a four inch point 
>> to point  --- I have not tried but it's my guess !!
>>
>> Am I trying to do the impossible???
>>
>> Richard
>>
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