Hi Curt, I hate to call you out on this, but the wave attachment / TK 
Reciprocator is not our exclusive item.  As you know, it was inspired by the 
Atkinson Reciprocator.  What makes it unique to our group is the ease of using 
a router to cut the pattern.  When can cut it deeper than the traditional 
equipment.  We can make the pattern on larger pieces, but I'll never claim that 
it is exclusive.

Now what has not been revealed by myself is that the reciprocator does not have 
to be    mounted on the duplex gear. It can be mounted on the leadscrew as 
well. One iteration of my design used that method.  It's also possible to make 
changes to the pattern as rarely discussed by changing the number of teeth on 
the duplex gear.  I did also have a method of of creating a fool proof DNA 
pattern based on flipping the adjustment rail 180 degrees.  That way tooth 
count and marking of the gears would not be needed. Since it was such a limited 
use feature, I never got around to implementing it. 

Hey Richard, I'm still not seeing the picture.  Did you attach it? You want to 
know what I think regarding making it more fancy? You made a pattern that I 
have never dreamed possible and your asking me? I have not made anything with 
the reciprocator for over 5 years! MAYBE its time to revisit the device from a 
different set of parameters like you are thinking. I do think that Bill is 
correct in saying 90 degrees of twist is the maximum. It would depend on the 
pitch mostly, not the amplitude.  Again, it's something I would have to look at 
again, but it's very low on my list of things to do. Probably right next to the 
colonoscopy! Hahahaha.

Tim

On Aug 29, 2019, 8:24 AM, at 8:24 AM, Richard Ellis <rchrd.ell...@gmail.com> 
wrote:
>Hi Tim
>Not the pic I meant to put on, but the finished article !
>How right you are, ---so i stopped thinking and did my wave pattern. It
>is 
>on a piece of wood about 1 3/4 inc dia. and is a three wave one way and
>
>then a reverse three. Looks o.k. but maybee should have been a little 
>deeper   (Me thinks )
>You can see that is the highest wave that I can get until I lengthen
>the 
>piston rod.____Don't know what you *think* and can I make it more fancy
>Richard
>
>On Thursday, August 29, 2019 at 12:22:10 PM UTC+1, Tim wrote:
>>
>> I was about to say that you all are thinking way too much anyway!
>> On Aug 29, 2019, at 4:19 AM, Richard Ellis <rchrd...@gmail.com 
>> <javascript:>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Tim 
>>> I posted a reply to a previous answer and it included the pic,
>>>  So this reply I* thought* wood have included the pic
>>> I shall have to stop thinking !!!!!!! and put the pic up again
>>> Richard
>>>
>>> On Thursday, August 29, 2019 at 12:06:39 PM UTC+1, Tim wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Am I the only one that does not see a picture or an attachment? 
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Sent from Samsung tablet
>>>>
>>>> -------- Original message --------
>>>> From: Richard Ellis <rchrd...@gmail.com> 
>>>> Date: 8/28/19 11:49 PM (GMT-08:00) 
>>>> To: Legacy Ornamental Mills <legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com> 
>>>> Subject: Re: TK Reciprocater long curves 
>>>>
>>>> Hi
>>>>  Here is the pic of my maximum height of wave. I don't need to go
>to the 
>>>> extreme but do need the waves to be more exaggerated i:e more 
>>>> stormy-------just want to rock the boat!!!!! Hence a longer piston
>rod , 
>>>> When I get one made .
>>>> Richard 
>>>>
>>>> On Tuesday, August 20, 2019 at 5:54:51 PM UTC+1, Richard Ellis
>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Here is a pic of the curves There are five curves and I was
>thinking of 
>>>>> putting a straight groove in between. All good practice !!
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tuesday, August 20, 2019 at 10:52:58 AM UTC+1, aussiman wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Looks good so far 
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Bill
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com <
>>>>>> legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Richard Ellis
>>>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, 20 August 2019 4:59 PM
>>>>>> *To:* Legacy Ornamental Mills <legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com>
>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: TK Reciprocater long curves
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Just taken a quick pic of the basic (start ) of a coat and hat
>stand.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It is 38 inches long X2 inch dia. May decde to make dia smaller
>!!! It 
>>>>>> of course only approx half of the stand height.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The four inch TK curve will be spaced eqidistance around the dia.
>but 
>>>>>> will have a straight flute between each curve,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Will take more pics Later if time permits !!??
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tuesday, August 20, 2019 at 7:09:38 AM UTC+1, Richard Ellis
>wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Bill Tim & Curt
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I will have to settle for a 4 inch curve When I have time to
>change 
>>>>>> the TK to the 2X .Need a different gear set up for anything
>longer ( Not 
>>>>>> LOM )
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I will update you when I take a pic of the wood I am using and
>it's 
>>>>>> purpose also the dimensions.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Bit too busy at the present time to do much with the Revo or 900.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Richard
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sunday, August 18, 2019 at 5:38:02 PM UTC+1, Curt George
>wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Here is the longest pitch with a wave that I have done. Is this
>like 
>>>>>> what you want to make?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> C.A.G.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [image: Inline image]
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sunday, August 18, 2019, 11:12:04 AM EDT, 'Curt George' via
>Legacy 
>>>>>> Ornamental Mills <legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com> wrote: 
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Good morning.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Richard, What router bit are you using?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What Tim and Bill already said are correct. but the type of cut
>you 
>>>>>> make also makes the wave look different.  depending on the
>diameter of the 
>>>>>> work piece and the cutter's size, as well as the depth of your
>cut will 
>>>>>> give you different looks. And also will the method of cutting.
>(Cutting for 
>>>>>> the top vs cutting form the side of the wood will also change the
>look.)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Here are a few different looks you can get with a long pitch and 
>>>>>> different cutters.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>
>>>>>> C.A.G. 
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sunday, August 18, 2019, 07:53:29 AM EDT,
><bulk...@mmnet.com.au> 
>>>>>> wrote: 
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If I remember correctly the wave or zigzag the biggest you can
>achieve 
>>>>>> as it travels along is around 90 degrees so virtually no degrees
>to 90.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But the pitch how long the waves are governed  by the pitch just
>the 
>>>>>> same as spirals are so do some waves at different pitches and
>see, so my 
>>>>>> guess would be yes 2x would give 4 inch  . please report how you
>go I would 
>>>>>> be greatly interested to see, if it wasn’t so dam cold here out
>in the shop 
>>>>>> I would try a few and report back.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Bill
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com <
>>>>>> legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Richard Ellis
>>>>>> *Sent:* Sunday, 18 August 2019 7:47 PM
>>>>>> *To:* Legacy Ornamental Mills <legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com>
>>>>>> *Subject:* TK Reciprocater long curves
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi all you LOM experts
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am trying to do a long (approx ) 6 inch flute with the TK at
>present 
>>>>>> with the standard index gear I get a 2 inch point to point curve 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If I change to the 2X gear I think it will only give me a four
>inch 
>>>>>> point to point  --- I have not tried but it's my guess !!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Am I trying to do the impossible???
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Richard
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