date:20190908

No the revos rails don’t drop very far to fit taller jobs, moving the table out 
and down would give you more Hight but then you would need to put longer cross 
slide rails so you could reach the middle of the rotary table with the router 
which I do have. Moving the rotary table out and down might cause stability 
problems too I guess you could brace it underneath with a couple of small screw 
jacks anything is possible. I do that with the revos milling table when I’m 
planning large jobs on it.

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Tim
Sent: Monday, 9 September 2019 2:35 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Extended Revo And raiser

 

Isn’t the limit because of the limit of the router bit range?  Could the depth 
be improved with a different mounting of the rotary table?

 

Tim

 

From: bulke...@mmnet.com.au  
Sent: Sunday, September 8, 2019 3:45 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 
Subject: RE: Extended Revo And raiser

 

Nice Richard why the plexiglass top?

The only problem with the revo roatry table is you cant get a lot of height. on 
your 900 you will I have never tried the revos one on a 900 as I have 2 a revo 
one and a 900s one be interesting to see how you fit it

 

Bill

 

 

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
  
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Richard Ellis
Sent: Monday, 9 September 2019 12:35 AM
To: Legacy Ornamental Mills mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> >
Subject: Re: Extended Revo And raiser

 

Thought I would put a pic of my Revo Rotary Table. Note the visibility of it  
Have not tried it on the 900 so don't know if it would be better

Richard

On Saturday, September 7, 2019 at 5:01:24 AM UTC+1, Curt George wrote:

Pretty Slick! 

 

You almost make me wish I had bought the REVO. (Sadly they did not make it 
until I had owned my 1000ex for a few years,by then.) (its just tool envy!)  ;-)

 

(As a side note, I called the REVO, a side saddle unit, when Legacy first 
offered it.) ;-p  Today? Well its a different story.

 

NIce job on both your fine tune risers as well as your spindle work.

 

C.A.G.

 

On Friday, September 6, 2019, 01:34:06 PM EDT, Richard Ellis 
 > wrote: 

 

 

Hi Curt

I thought it best to start a new topic .The Revo is just the same but a bit 
longer. I have a drive to the spindle 414 v 3 ph. motor through an inverter  
Suitable for the U.K.

The raisers at each end are a great help .All they consist of are a long coach 
bolt with a nut  welded to a bit of angle iron. I drilled a small hole in the 
top of the bolt and epoxied a set screw in it. ,same size as the large legacy 
Allen wrench 

I can if a large up or down movement is needed use a cordless drill with a bit 
of Allen key in it. The wood work on the bolt enables a fine adjustment by hand 
 ( foregoing the Allen wrench, )

Hope you can understand it

Richard

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RE: Extended Revo And raiser

Isn’t the limit because of the limit of the router bit range?  Could the depth 
be improved with a different mounting of the rotary table?

Tim

From: bulke...@mmnet.com.au
Sent: Sunday, September 8, 2019 3:45 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Extended Revo And raiser

Nice Richard why the plexiglass top?
The only problem with the revo roatry table is you cant get a lot of height. on 
your 900 you will I have never tried the revos one on a 900 as I have 2 a revo 
one and a 900s one be interesting to see how you fit it

Bill



From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Richard Ellis
Sent: Monday, 9 September 2019 12:35 AM
To: Legacy Ornamental Mills 
Subject: Re: Extended Revo And raiser

Thought I would put a pic of my Revo Rotary Table. Note the visibility of it  
Have not tried it on the 900 so don't know if it would be better
Richard

On Saturday, September 7, 2019 at 5:01:24 AM UTC+1, Curt George wrote:
Pretty Slick! 

You almost make me wish I had bought the REVO. (Sadly they did not make it 
until I had owned my 1000ex for a few years,by then.) (its just tool envy!)  ;-)

(As a side note, I called the REVO, a side saddle unit, when Legacy first 
offered it.) ;-p  Today? Well its a different story.

NIce job on both your fine tune risers as well as your spindle work.

C.A.G.

On Friday, September 6, 2019, 01:34:06 PM EDT, Richard Ellis 
 wrote: 


Hi Curt
I thought it best to start a new topic .The Revo is just the same but a bit 
longer. I have a drive to the spindle 414 v 3 ph. motor through an inverter  
Suitable for the U.K.
The raisers at each end are a great help .All they consist of are a long coach 
bolt with a nut  welded to a bit of angle iron. I drilled a small hole in the 
top of the bolt and epoxied a set screw in it. ,same size as the large legacy 
Allen wrench 
I can if a large up or down movement is needed use a cordless drill with a bit 
of Allen key in it. The wood work on the bolt enables a fine adjustment by hand 
 ( foregoing the Allen wrench, )
Hope you can understand it
Richard
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RE: TK Made Items

2019-09-08 Thread 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills

After using the index ring on the rotary table for a while I learned that it’s 
useful only for the odd degrees.  A turn on the handle or ¼ turn is accurate 
enough.  I do also have a index wheel that mounts on the underside that engages 
a pin that works extremely well for a control freak.  Unfortunately, it’s 
limited to the number of index plates you own.  

If I were to buy another laser for engraving, I would find a guy that owns one 
and use him to cut your parts.  C02 lasers you see available for cheap die from 
simply sitting around.  The tubes are like a pop bottle, they loose their fiz 
and you have to buy another one.  So I think let the other guy spend his money. 
 Only problem is finding one that knows what they are doing.  

Tim
 

From: Tim Ziegler
Sent: Sunday, September 8, 2019 9:46 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: TK Made Items

That indexable table I am really interested in creating for my Rotary table. 
We are looking hard at a laser engraver for the business and may consider 
trying to cut those out. Thoughts? Tim

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Sun, Sep 8, 2019 at 7:08 AM Tim  wrote:
I found some other simple links.  Keep in mind, some of this is really old.  
 
Here’s some attempts at making the rotary table easier to use. 
 
This is one of my favorites.
https://www.ornamentalmills.com/tips/TK_rotary_table_indexing/index.html
 
This is a huge time saver for small parts and large a well.  Centering 
difficulties have been eliminated.  My only change after this was to add a low 
profile t-track (not shown) for additional clamping opportunities. 
 
https://www.ornamentalmills.com/tips/TK_rotary_table_indexing/index.html
 
 
I didn’t make this, but I discovered the harbor freight dial indicators fit 
perfect in the router from hell.  No need for my digital scale conversion. I’ll 
admit I mostly use my digital scale though.
 
https://www.ornamentalmills.com/tips/z-axis_dial_indicator/index.html
 
Well I  think that is all the simple links to my stuff.  There are so many 
pictures to come.
 
Tim
 
 
 
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Re: Ornamental News

2019-09-08 Thread artmarbles

Should have gone to the group...I'll check my sent file.Sent from Samsung tablet
 Original message From: Tim Ziegler  
Date: 9/8/19  8:59 AM  (GMT-08:00) To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Ornamental News Tim where you addressing this to me?Kind 
Regards,Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & Specialty14171 160th Ave.Foreston 
MN 56330320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cellOn Sun, Sep 8, 2019 at 5:46 AM Tim 
 wrote:I longtime ago Legacy made a simple magazine 
Called Ornamental News.  You can find what we have here.  
https://www.ornamentalmills.com/omnews/ please do not redistribute this hidden 
link.  Also, you will notice that many of the scans can be improved with todays 
technology.  If you have a complete set of these I will rescan them in there 
complete form which would include many of the ads for the equipment removed 
from these scans.  If you only have one or two, that would of course help.  
Send a note to me off the list and we can get these updated. Also if you have 
the really early OM newsletters that came with the Woodchuck, that would be 
really great to see those back in play. Tim  

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Re: Questionable E-bay sale

 Thank you.
C.A.G.
On Sunday, September 8, 2019, 06:25:21 PM EDT, Chainlink 
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 I emailed that user to ask for actual pictures of the mill. We will see

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RE: Extended Revo And raiser

Nice Richard why the plexiglass top?

The only problem with the revo roatry table is you cant get a lot of height. on 
your 900 you will I have never tried the revos one on a 900 as I have 2 a revo 
one and a 900s one be interesting to see how you fit it

 

Bill

 

 

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Richard Ellis
Sent: Monday, 9 September 2019 12:35 AM
To: Legacy Ornamental Mills 
Subject: Re: Extended Revo And raiser

 

Thought I would put a pic of my Revo Rotary Table. Note the visibility of it  
Have not tried it on the 900 so don't know if it would be better

Richard

On Saturday, September 7, 2019 at 5:01:24 AM UTC+1, Curt George wrote:

Pretty Slick! 

 

You almost make me wish I had bought the REVO. (Sadly they did not make it 
until I had owned my 1000ex for a few years,by then.) (its just tool envy!)  ;-)

 

(As a side note, I called the REVO, a side saddle unit, when Legacy first 
offered it.) ;-p  Today? Well its a different story.

 

NIce job on both your fine tune risers as well as your spindle work.

 

C.A.G.

 

On Friday, September 6, 2019, 01:34:06 PM EDT, Richard Ellis 
 > wrote: 

 

 

Hi Curt

I thought it best to start a new topic .The Revo is just the same but a bit 
longer. I have a drive to the spindle 414 v 3 ph. motor through an inverter  
Suitable for the U.K.

The raisers at each end are a great help .All they consist of are a long coach 
bolt with a nut  welded to a bit of angle iron. I drilled a small hole in the 
top of the bolt and epoxied a set screw in it. ,same size as the large legacy 
Allen wrench 

I can if a large up or down movement is needed use a cordless drill with a bit 
of Allen key in it. The wood work on the bolt enables a fine adjustment by hand 
 ( foregoing the Allen wrench, )

Hope you can understand it

Richard

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Re: Questionable E-bay sale

2019-09-08 Thread Chainlink

I emailed that user to ask for actual pictures of the mill. We will see

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RE: mill for sale

Home made liner milling table maybe 

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of MWF
Sent: Monday, 9 September 2019 1:40 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: mill for sale

 

Curt (and all),

 

I think I said this in an earlier comment on this Mill:  I would not be 
surprised if the owner of this Mill started to put it together and never got 
around to finishing the task.  I say this for a couple reasons.  It looks too 
"pristine" - no Mill I have seen posted for sale has looked this "new".  

 

The photos reflect that it was either: 

1. Not completely put together - which is why we don't see the X-Axis rod and 
its associated pieces on it, the Follower Nut for the Y-Axis Carriage, and the 
"gear train" installed.  Even the "Dust Collection" pieces are squeeky clean 
and some still in their wrappers.

or

2.  They put it together; used it; then took it apart and did an EXCEPTIONALLY 
GOOD job of cleaning it up for the photographs.  (Doesn't pass a "common sense 
test".) 

What do the rest of ya'll think?

 

Here is a question I asked earlier - and no one has addressed it.  Anyone have 
a guess or know what they are for?

"Go to the next to the last photo - the one with the 2 good sized pieces of MDF 
with bolts & wingnuts in them. 

Any idea what those two MDF pieces are for?  

My guess is they were to be put horizontally between the two lower frame 
extrusions - serving as a work surface for milling flat work pieces."

 

Thanks.

Mac

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-Original Message- 
From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
Sent: Sep 8, 2019 12:50 AM 
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
  
Subject: Re: mill for sale 

OK Mac.

I did not see that.  I was hoping it was there? after-all nothing would work 
without it... ;-) Now we need to look for the Acme nut for the carriage. ;-p

 

As I said earlier,From the posting, the man says he had to cut photo's out to 
make room in the E-bay posting.  

In Good faith, this looks to be a nice machine.

 

Have a good night.

 

C.A.G.


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On Sunday, September 8, 2019, 12:35:47 AM EDT, MWF mailto:mwfos...@earthlink.net> > wrote: 

 

Curtis,

 

 Then look over on the far left side, running parallel with the left edge of 
the MDF panels.  See the long Acme threaded X-Axis rod?  The Acme rod (Y-Axis) 
I referenced earlier (in a different thread about this Mill) as being rusty is 
rustier that this X-Axis rod.  

Any idea what these two MDF pieces are for?  My guess is they were to be put 
horizontally between the two lower frame extrusions - serving as a work surface 
for milling flat work pieces.

 

Mac


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From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
Sent: Sep 7, 2019 3:56 PM 
To: Legacy Ornamental Mills 
Subject: Re: mill for sale 

Hey guys one more NOTE.

On closer look, I do not see a acme screw in the photos.  I hope this is just a 
mistake? the owner stated like new, and limit on photos. perhaps it is just not 
on the unit when the photo was taken? (photo #3.)

 

C.A.G.


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On Saturday, September 7, 2019, 03:47:29 PM EDT, Curt George 
mailto:curt.geo...@yahoo.com> > wrote: 

 

Thanks Bill

I missed this one. Not a bad price if it stays where it is at?

 

some good points are this is an older 1000ex. it has a #2MT. on both the head 
and tail-stock, so it can take  lathe adapters, like a drive spur and or live 
center I find this useful, On my Legacy. 

 

C.A.G.


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On Saturday, September 7, 2019, 03:27:12 AM EDT, bulke...@mmnet.com.au 
  mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote: 

 

 

Has every one seen this one for sale  
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Wood-Work-Legacy-Ornamental-Wood-Working-Machine-With-Router-Porter-Cable/303267408835?hash=item469c256bc3:g:~NEAAOSwTLpdUvlK

 

 

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Re: TK Made Items

2019-09-08 Thread Steven Jacobs

I. Have the height adjustment for the 900. Excellent and super easy! 

Steve Jacobs

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> On Sep 8, 2019, at 8:55 AM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:
> 
> I agree, 
> Wow he has made some incredible add on's and mods for sure. Very impressed!
> Kind Regards,
> 
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
> 
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
> 
> 
>> On Sun, Sep 8, 2019 at 8:37 AM  wrote:
>> Now your just showing off we all know you’re the master jedi of legacy mods
>> 
>> 😊😊😊
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Bill
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> 
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>>  
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
>>  On Behalf Of Tim
>> Sent: Sunday, 8 September 2019 10:32 PM
>> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: TK Made Items
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Did your tailstock get destroyed from using the pilaster kit?  My did so I 
>> made these.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> http://artscopes.com/legacyornamentalmill/tools/tailstock_hub/end_view_tailstock_hub.jpg
>> 
>> http://artscopes.com/legacyornamentalmill/tools/tailstock_hub/headstock_view.jpg
>> 
>> http://artscopes.com/legacyornamentalmill/tools/tailstock_hub/tailstock_view_installed.jpg
>> 
>> http://artscopes.com/legacyornamentalmill/tools/tailstock_hub/tailstock_view_side_installed.jpg
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> these were not my idea.  When I met Tracy Anderson at a Woodworking show and 
>> told him about the problem, he informed me they included a part similar to 
>> mine to fix this problem.  This started When Bill Bulkely noticed the part 
>> in on of the demos.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> All of this information will be melded into Ornamentalmills.com when I get a 
>> chance.  Things are changing on the web that I need to catch up on before I 
>> make anymore hidden updates.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Here’s one I’ve never shown or used but made sense at the time.  A method to 
>> use a turning chuck to hold work upright on a legacy aluminum rail.  I don’t 
>> recall anyone wanting to buy one either!
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> All right, that is enough for today.  Enjoy the guided tour of things you 
>> may not have seen.
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>> Tim
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Re: Ornamental News

2019-09-08 Thread Ray Leaman

Once again, this very good information to someone like me who is in the
process of figuring out all that the LOM can do.  Appreciate your doing
this very much!

Ray

On Sun, Sep 8, 2019 at 6:46 AM Tim  wrote:

> I longtime ago Legacy made a simple magazine Called Ornamental News.  You
> can find what we have here.  https://www.ornamentalmills.com/omnews/
> please do not redistribute this hidden link.
>
>
>
> Also, you will notice that many of the scans can be improved with todays
> technology.  If you have a complete set of these I will rescan them in
> there complete form which would include many of the ads for the equipment
> removed from these scans.  If you only have one or two, that would of
> course help.  Send a note to me off the list and we can get these updated.
>
>
>
> Also if you have the really early OM newsletters that came with the
> Woodchuck, that would be really great to see those back in play.
>
>
>
> Tim
>
>
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Re: Lathe Centers Sale - Check this out.

Thanks Mike, yes beautiful fall weather is upon us for sure. It's always
nice to be able to slip on a sweat shirt or something rather then wishing
it wasn't so hot out.
Do you ever get to Minnesota? I guess we have a wood turners guild or
something in the St Cloud area. Same area as the Central Minnesota Wood
Workers Association.
Rollie has said that several of our members also belong to the turner's
club. I'm turning more and more but always production or replacement parts
for furniture.
Let me know if you'd ever consider coming this way we could put you up.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Sun, Sep 8, 2019 at 8:12 AM Michael Kratky 
wrote:

> Tim,
>
> We think the same I also have a Vega duplicator on my 4224B, I use the
> Shop Smith on my Jet 1220 that I use pretty much for demos on the road that
> I do at various wood turning Clubs here in eastern upper NY and adjacent
> Massachusetts, in fact I’m doing one this Wednesday for the Western Mass
> Woodturners making a burial urn which is a deviation from spindle turning
> that LOM owners are accustomed to using a outstanding system called the
> Visualizer that is sold my good friend in Colorado Trent Bosch,
> www.trentbosch.com
>
>
>
> Enjoy the beautiful fall like weather,
>
>
>
> Mike K
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com [mailto:
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Saturday, September 07, 2019 9:23 AM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: Lathe Centers Sale - Check this out.
>
>
>
> Sorry Mike,
>
>
>
> Yes for sure thanks for the input. I have one and I love it. but tend to
> use the Vega more now.
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sat, Sep 7, 2019 at 7:48 AM Michael Kratky 
> wrote:
>
> Hi Tim,
>
> Shop Smith has the best duplicator for those of you doing any kind of
> production work or prepping for the LOM, adaptable to most midsized lathes,
> just my 2₵ of advice,
>
> BTW, I also have a 4224B Powermatic
>
>
>
> Mike K
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com [mailto:
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Friday, September 06, 2019 9:44 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: Lathe Centers Sale - Check this out.
>
>
>
> Thanks Mac,
>
>
>
> Yes several of us tool junkies have far to many toys e I mean tools
> lol.
>
> LOM, WC, Shop Smith and 4224 B by PM. but who counts.
>
> Thanks for the sale tip.
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Sep 6, 2019 at 7:51 PM MWF  wrote:
>
> Greetings everyone,
>
>
>
> Scroll to the bottom of the email at the below link to a "Turning Sale"
> that Shopsmith is having. (EVEN if you do not own a Shopsmith.)
>
> There you will find they have their lathe centers on sale - as well as
> their faceplates.
>
>
>
> I know that many of our Group Members own at least one Shopsmith in
> addition to their Legacy Mill.
>
> In any case, I think the lathe centers should work on both machines.
> Their quality has always been very good - and these prices are good
> considering what you are getting.  And, like with Legacy, I have found
> Shopsmith's Customer Service to be very good.
>
> Enjoy!
>
> Mac
>
>
>
> Here's the link:  https://www.shopsmith.com/ownersite/specials/7DV366
>
>
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Re: TK Made Items

2019-09-08 Thread Ray Leaman

This was the kind of information I was hoping to find when I joined this
group. I look forward to seeing your other innovations as you can put them
on line here. Thanks for sharing your knowledge and skills with the rest of
us.

Ray

On Sun, Sep 8, 2019 at 7:55 AM Tim  wrote:

>
>
> I’ve been asked by a lot of members in the group if I have a catalog of
> everything I’ve ever made for the Legacy Mill.  I don’t.  So I’m starting a
> topic of items that I’ve made and have long forgotten or still would make
> if there is enough Interest.  I’m going to post them slowly over the next
> few weeks as I find them.  There will be no specific order.  So here it
> goes.
>
>
>
> Taller Legs for model 900 2” extension, also made 3” and a 4” extension
> legs.
>
>
> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/legacy-ornamental-mills/LukcjELgxvg/Owpgaq7DxeoJ
>
>
>
> My QC Direction changer.  After talking with Curt George about the idea of
> a better direction changer I came up with this.
>
>
>
>
> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/legacy-ornamental-mills/LHkNujx8wkc/eewTSJa8wNoJ
>
>
>
> That Post shows my TK Reciprocator inspired by the Atkins reciprocator
> from an antique machine. Mine has more travel and options.  It needs to be
> updated.
>
>
>
>
> http://www.artscopes.com/legacyornamentalmill/tools/waveattachment/waveattachment.html
>
>
>
> where does the time go…
>
>
>
> One of the easiest way to level you 900 bed was with my TK Bed Height
> Adjustment Tool.  Four plates with a specific hole pattern to enable close
> to infinite adjustments My extended height legs shown already implemented a
> similar hole pattern so the rods could still be used for leveling your bed.
>
>
>
>
> http://www.artscopes.com/legacyornamentalmill/tools/bedheightadjustment/bedheightadjustment.html
>
>
>
> An extended gear set that fills in some holes in the standard set of
> pitches.  The truth is I can cut gear from about the 16 tooth to 120. I
> don’t cut Legacy gears that are available from the factory.
>
>
>
> http://www.artscopes.com/legacyornamentalmill/tools/extra_legacy_gears/
>
>
>
> I made some horizontal clamps using 80/20 and a shopfox clamp.  They
> worked like champs and cost less than the legacy versions and had a quicker
> setup.
>
>
>
> http://www.artscopes.com/legacyornamentalmill/tools/horizontal_clamps/
>
>
>
> Then I really started thinking to much about indexing.  I made a couple
> pages that some people have not seen.
>
>
>
> http://www.artscopes.com/legacyornamentalmill/tools/index_system/
>
>
>
> This is different than from crank handle indexing, that’s Mike Input.
>
>
>
> Here’s another thing I made for my rotary table.  I don’t like having the
> handle in the inside of the machine so I made two versions, and sold the
> second.  It makes so much sense to just shim your rotary table and direct
> connect to the spindle and therefore the crank.  So Simple!
>
>
>
> http://www.artscopes.com/legacyornamentalmill/tools/rotary_table_mods/
>
>
>
> Making life even easier I sold and x and y lock system for the 900’s
> Simple lock plates and knobs and a bracket and you can ditch your slipping
> shaft collars on the acme screws. The nob on the y axis has been replaced
> with the 5 star comfort fit knob.
>
>
>
> http://www.artscopes.com/legacyornamentalmill/tools/x_axis_lock/
>
>
>
> So that’s the easy stuff that I have found.  I’ll continue to show other
> items as I dig into some old computers and flash drives.  I hope this helps
> others.
>
>
>
> Tim
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: TK Made Items

That indexable table I am really interested in creating for my Rotary
table.
We are looking hard at a laser engraver for the business and may consider
trying to cut those out. Thoughts? Tim
Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Sun, Sep 8, 2019 at 7:08 AM Tim  wrote:

> I found some other simple links.  Keep in mind, some of this is really
> old.
>
>
>
> Here’s some attempts at making the rotary table easier to use.
>
>
>
> This is one of my favorites.
>
> https://www.ornamentalmills.com/tips/TK_rotary_table_indexing/index.html
>
>
>
> This is a huge time saver for small parts and large a well.  Centering
> difficulties have been eliminated.  My only change after this was to add a
> low profile t-track (not shown) for additional clamping opportunities.
>
>
>
> https://www.ornamentalmills.com/tips/TK_rotary_table_indexing/index.html
>
>
>
>
>
> I didn’t make this, but I discovered the harbor freight dial indicators
> fit perfect in the router from hell.  No need for my digital scale
> conversion. I’ll admit I mostly use my digital scale though.
>
>
>
> https://www.ornamentalmills.com/tips/z-axis_dial_indicator/index.html
>
>
>
> Well I  think that is all the simple links to my stuff.  There are so many
> pictures to come.
>
>
>
> Tim
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: TK Made Items

2019-09-08 Thread 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills

Tim this is awesome and will help carry on the legacy of the "LEGACY". I
wished I would have bought one when they first come
out but I didn't so I am like a 57 year old kid with a new toy. Though I
bought it for my business I sure want to do everything I can
with it. So again thanks for keeping the LEGACY alive Tim.
Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Sun, Sep 8, 2019 at 6:55 AM Tim  wrote:

>
>
> I’ve been asked by a lot of members in the group if I have a catalog of
> everything I’ve ever made for the Legacy Mill.  I don’t.  So I’m starting a
> topic of items that I’ve made and have long forgotten or still would make
> if there is enough Interest.  I’m going to post them slowly over the next
> few weeks as I find them.  There will be no specific order.  So here it
> goes.
>
>
>
> Taller Legs for model 900 2” extension, also made 3” and a 4” extension
> legs.
>
>
> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/legacy-ornamental-mills/LukcjELgxvg/Owpgaq7DxeoJ
>
>
>
> My QC Direction changer.  After talking with Curt George about the idea of
> a better direction changer I came up with this.
>
>
>
>
> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/legacy-ornamental-mills/LHkNujx8wkc/eewTSJa8wNoJ
>
>
>
> That Post shows my TK Reciprocator inspired by the Atkins reciprocator
> from an antique machine. Mine has more travel and options.  It needs to be
> updated.
>
>
>
>
> http://www.artscopes.com/legacyornamentalmill/tools/waveattachment/waveattachment.html
>
>
>
> where does the time go…
>
>
>
> One of the easiest way to level you 900 bed was with my TK Bed Height
> Adjustment Tool.  Four plates with a specific hole pattern to enable close
> to infinite adjustments My extended height legs shown already implemented a
> similar hole pattern so the rods could still be used for leveling your bed.
>
>
>
>
> http://www.artscopes.com/legacyornamentalmill/tools/bedheightadjustment/bedheightadjustment.html
>
>
>
> An extended gear set that fills in some holes in the standard set of
> pitches.  The truth is I can cut gear from about the 16 tooth to 120. I
> don’t cut Legacy gears that are available from the factory.
>
>
>
> http://www.artscopes.com/legacyornamentalmill/tools/extra_legacy_gears/
>
>
>
> I made some horizontal clamps using 80/20 and a shopfox clamp.  They
> worked like champs and cost less than the legacy versions and had a quicker
> setup.
>
>
>
> http://www.artscopes.com/legacyornamentalmill/tools/horizontal_clamps/
>
>
>
> Then I really started thinking to much about indexing.  I made a couple
> pages that some people have not seen.
>
>
>
> http://www.artscopes.com/legacyornamentalmill/tools/index_system/
>
>
>
> This is different than from crank handle indexing, that’s Mike Input.
>
>
>
> Here’s another thing I made for my rotary table.  I don’t like having the
> handle in the inside of the machine so I made two versions, and sold the
> second.  It makes so much sense to just shim your rotary table and direct
> connect to the spindle and therefore the crank.  So Simple!
>
>
>
> http://www.artscopes.com/legacyornamentalmill/tools/rotary_table_mods/
>
>
>
> Making life even easier I sold and x and y lock system for the 900’s
> Simple lock plates and knobs and a bracket and you can ditch your slipping
> shaft collars on the acme screws. The nob on the y axis has been replaced
> with the 5 star comfort fit knob.
>
>
>
> http://www.artscopes.com/legacyornamentalmill/tools/x_axis_lock/
>
>
>
> So that’s the easy stuff that I have found.  I’ll continue to show other
> items as I dig into some old computers and flash drives.  I hope this helps
> others.
>
>
>
> Tim
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Questionable E-bay sale

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Legacy-Ornamental-mill-machines-Model-1200/143371383252?hash=item216199b1d4:g:o-UAAOSwp8RdaFAE

| Legacy Ornamental Mill, model 1200. Unit creates various wood moldings such
as spindles, spirals, and fluted rope moldings. Many other molding profiles can
be made on the mill. Create moldings and turnings without using a lathe.
Included with the mill are many optional accessories such as a z-axis carriage,
mobility kit, thin template and thin stock follower, 5 router bits, and 4x gear
package and several more. All of which when purchased new totaling over
$2,150.00. All of the assembly, operation, and accessory documents as well as
training videos are included as well as web site access. Can make CNC quality
moldings for a fraction of the cost. The mil sold new for $2,995 plus over
$2,150.00 in optional accessories. Free shipping with full sale price only.If
not picked up locally, time will be needed to disassemble and carefully
identify the sub-assemblies for shipment so that the purchaser will be able to
reassemble the unit without much difficulty. Additionally, the complete
original assembly instructions will be provided. |

Hello Everyone, Yesterday I posted this one. but it was placed under the other
e-bay 1000ex. posting.
This one has me wondering??? To me it looks to be. A military grade case of
Dis-information. There is just enough proof that this is real. (Parts that are
shown) you would only have if you owned the machine. like the Z axis
templates... Only three router bits look to have been used, everything else
looks brand new.The only thing I know to be sure is, A design kit. and a set of
Plaster dogs. (AND For Tim Z. the only set of steady rest plastic guides that
I have ever seen, out side of a catalog.)
This might be a scam? or its a new machine that was NEVER Put together. Other
wise you would see pictures for the machine not photos form the Legacy Catalog.
Something to think about?
A X4 gear package!!! ( I missed that on the first view!)
When someone offer's you EVERYTHING with out proof. the Yankee Trader Motto
comes to mind. "Buyer Beware".
C.A.G.

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Re: Ornamental News

2019-09-08 Thread 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills

Tim where you addressing this to me?

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Sun, Sep 8, 2019 at 5:46 AM Tim  wrote:

> I longtime ago Legacy made a simple magazine Called Ornamental News.  You
> can find what we have here.  https://www.ornamentalmills.com/omnews/
> please do not redistribute this hidden link.
>
>
>
> Also, you will notice that many of the scans can be improved with todays
> technology.  If you have a complete set of these I will rescan them in
> there complete form which would include many of the ads for the equipment
> removed from these scans.  If you only have one or two, that would of
> course help.  Send a note to me off the list and we can get these updated.
>
>
>
> Also if you have the really early OM newsletters that came with the
> Woodchuck, that would be really great to see those back in play.
>
>
>
> Tim
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Re: mill for sale

 Good morning Mac.
You could be right, about this mill not being put into use before.  (I will 
also point out that there are plastic sides that should be in the carriage 
assembly.)
I think the boards were made to do, flat work milling.(again looks to be 
un-used)
NOW on to the BIG Question. WHO needs this  unit?  It could make someone a very 
nice machine.( But I cant use it. even though the price looks affordable.)
C.A.G.
On Sunday, September 8, 2019, 11:40:31 AM EDT, MWF  
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p{margin:0px;}Curt (and all),
I think I said this in an earlier comment on this Mill:  I would not be 
surprised if the owner of this Mill started to put it together and never got 
around to finishing the task.  I say this for a couple reasons.  It looks too 
"pristine" - no Mill I have seen posted for sale has looked this "new".  

The photos reflect that it was either: 
1. Not completely put together - which is why we don't see the X-Axis rod and 
its associated pieces on it, the Follower Nut for the Y-Axis Carriage, and the 
"gear train" installed.  Even the "Dust Collection" pieces are squeeky clean 
and some still in their wrappers.
or2.  They put it together; used it; then took it apart and did an 
EXCEPTIONALLY GOOD job of cleaning it up for the photographs.  (Doesn't pass a 
"common sense test".) 
What do the rest of ya'll think?
Here is a question I asked earlier - and no one has addressed it.  Anyone have 
a guess or know what they are for?"Go to the next to the last photo - the one 
with the 2 good sized pieces of MDF with bolts & wingnuts in them. 
Any idea what those two MDF pieces are for?  
My guess is they were to be put horizontally between the two lower frame 
extrusions - serving as a work surface for milling flat work pieces."
Thanks.
Mac

-Original Message-
From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
Sent: Sep 8, 2019 12:50 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: mill for sale

 OK Mac.I did not see that.  I was hoping it was there? after-all nothing would 
work without it... ;-) Now we need to look for the Acme nut for the carriage. 
;-p
As I said earlier,From the posting, the man says he had to cut photo's out to 
make room in the E-bay posting.  In Good faith, this looks to be a nice machine.
Have a good night.
C.A.G.On Sunday, September 8, 2019, 12:35:47 AM EDT, MWF 
 wrote:  
 Curtis,
 Then look over on the far left side, running parallel with the left edge of 
the MDF panels.  See the long Acme threaded X-Axis rod?  The Acme rod (Y-Axis) 
I referenced earlier (in a different thread about this Mill) as being rusty is 
rustier that this X-Axis rod.  
Any idea what these two MDF pieces are for?  My guess is they were to be put 
horizontally between the two lower frame extrusions - serving as a work surface 
for milling flat work pieces.
Mac

-Original Message-
From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
Sent: Sep 7, 2019 3:56 PM
To: Legacy Ornamental Mills 
Subject: Re: mill for sale

 Hey guys one more NOTE.On closer look, I do not see a acme screw in the 
photos.  I hope this is just a mistake? the owner stated like new, and limit on 
photos. perhaps it is just not on the unit when the photo was taken? (photo #3.)
C.A.G.On Saturday, September 7, 2019, 03:47:29 PM EDT, Curt George 
 wrote:  
  Thanks BillI missed this one. Not a bad price if it stays where it is at?
some good points are this is an older 1000ex. it has a #2MT. on both the head 
and tail-stock, so it can take  lathe adapters, like a drive spur and or live 
center I find this useful, On my Legacy. 
C.A.G.On Saturday, September 7, 2019, 03:27:12 AM EDT, 
bulke...@mmnet.com.au  wrote:  
 
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Has every one seen this one for sale  
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Wood-Work-Legacy-Ornamental-Wood-Working-Machine-With-Router-Porter-Cable/303267408835?hash=item469c256bc3:g:~NEAAOSwTLpdUvlK

  

  

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Re: mill for sale

2019-09-08 Thread MWF

Curt (and all),I think I said this in an earlier comment on this Mill:  I would not be surprised if the owner of this Mill started to put it together and never got around to finishing the task.  I say this for a couple reasons.  It looks too "pristine" - no Mill I have seen posted for sale has looked this "new".  The photos reflect that it was either: 1. Not completely put together - which is why we don't see the X-Axis rod and its associated pieces on it, the Follower Nut for the Y-Axis Carriage, and the "gear train" installed.  Even the "Dust Collection" pieces are squeeky clean and some still in their wrappers.or2.  They put it together; used it; then took it apart and did an EXCEPTIONALLY GOOD job of cleaning it up for the photographs.  (Doesn't pass a "common sense test".) What do the rest of ya'll think?Here is a question I asked earlier - and no one has addressed it.  Anyone have a guess or know what they are for?"Go to the next to the last photo - the one with the 2 good sized pieces of MDF with bolts & wingnuts in them. Any idea what those two MDF pieces are for?  My guess is they were to be
 put horizontally between the two lower frame extrusions - serving as a 
work surface for milling flat work pieces."Thanks.Mac-Original Message-
From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
Sent: Sep 8, 2019 12:50 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: mill for sale

OK Mac.I did not see that.  I was hoping it was there? after-all nothing would work without it... ;-) Now we need to look for the Acme nut for the carriage. ;-pAs I said earlier,From the posting, the man says he had to cut photo's out to make room in the E-bay posting.  In Good faith, this looks to be a nice machine.Have a good night.C.A.G.

On Sunday, September 8, 2019, 12:35:47 AM EDT, MWF  wrote:

Curtis, Then look over on the far left side, running parallel with the left edge of the MDF panels.  See the long Acme threaded X-Axis rod?  The Acme rod (Y-Axis) I referenced earlier (in a different thread about this Mill) as being rusty is rustier that this X-Axis rod.  Any idea what these two MDF pieces are for?  My guess is they were to be put horizontally between the two lower frame extrusions - serving as a work surface for milling flat work pieces.Mac-Original Message-
From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
Sent: Sep 7, 2019 3:56 PM
To: Legacy Ornamental Mills 
Subject: Re: mill for sale

Hey guys one more NOTE.On closer look, I do not see a acme screw in the photos.  I hope this is just a mistake? the owner stated like new, and limit on photos. perhaps it is just not on the unit when the photo was taken? (photo #3.)C.A.G.

On Saturday, September 7, 2019, 03:47:29 PM EDT, Curt George  wrote:

Thanks BillI missed this one. Not a bad price if it stays where it is at?some good points are this is an older 1000ex. it has a #2MT. on both the head and tail-stock, so it can take  lathe adapters, like a drive spur and or live center I find this useful, On my Legacy. C.A.G.

On Saturday, September 7, 2019, 03:27:12 AM EDT, bulke...@mmnet.com.au  wrote:

Has every one seen this one for sale  https://www.ebay.com/itm/Wood-Work-Legacy-Ornamental-Wood-Working-Machine-With-Router-Porter-Cable/303267408835?hash=item469c256bc3:g:~NEAAOSwTLpdUvlK    Bill

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Re: Extended Revo And raiser

2019-09-08 Thread 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills

Very Nice!
C.A.G.
On Sunday, September 8, 2019, 10:34:45 AM EDT, Richard Ellis
wrote:

Thought I would put a pic of my Revo Rotary Table. Note the visibility of it
Have not tried it on the 900 so don't know if it would be betterRichard

On Saturday, September 7, 2019 at 5:01:24 AM UTC+1, Curt George wrote:
Pretty Slick!
You almost make me wish I had bought the REVO. (Sadly they did not make it
until I had owned my 1000ex for a few years,by then.) (its just tool envy!) ;-)
(As a side note, I called the REVO, a side saddle unit, when Legacy first
offered it.) ;-p Today? Well its a different story.
NIce job on both your fine tune risers as well as your spindle work.
C.A.G.
On Friday, September 6, 2019, 01:34:06 PM EDT, Richard Ellis
wrote:

Hi CurtI thought it best to start a new topic .The Revo is just the same but a
bit longer. I have a drive to the spindle 414 v 3 ph. motor through an inverter
Suitable for the U.K.The raisers at each end are a great help .All they
consist of are a long coach bolt with a nut welded to a bit of angle iron. I
drilled a small hole in the top of the bolt and epoxied a set screw in it.
,same size as the large legacy Allen wrench I can if a large up or down
movement is needed use a cordless drill with a bit of Allen key in it. The wood
work on the bolt enables a fine adjustment by hand ( foregoing the Allen
wrench, )Hope you can understand itRichard

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RE: Lathe Centers Sale - Check this out.

2019-09-08 Thread Michael Kratky

Tim,

We think the same I also have a Vega duplicator on my 4224B, I use the Shop 
Smith on my Jet 1220 that I use pretty much for demos on the road that I do at 
various wood turning Clubs here in eastern upper NY and adjacent Massachusetts, 
in fact I’m doing one this Wednesday for the Western Mass Woodturners making a 
burial urn which is a deviation from spindle turning that LOM owners are 
accustomed to using a outstanding system called the Visualizer that is sold my 
good friend in Colorado Trent Bosch, www.trentbosch.com

 

Enjoy the beautiful fall like weather,

 

Mike K 

 

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Saturday, September 07, 2019 9:23 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Lathe Centers Sale - Check this out.

 

Sorry Mike,

 

Yes for sure thanks for the input. I have one and I love it. but tend to use 
the Vega more now. 




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Sat, Sep 7, 2019 at 7:48 AM Michael Kratky  wrote:

Hi Tim,

Shop Smith has the best duplicator for those of you doing any kind of 
production work or prepping for the LOM, adaptable to most midsized lathes, 
just my 2₵ of advice,

BTW, I also have a 4224B Powermatic

 

Mike K

 

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[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Friday, September 06, 2019 9:44 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Lathe Centers Sale - Check this out.

 

Thanks Mac,

 

Yes several of us tool junkies have far to many toys e I mean tools lol. 

LOM, WC, Shop Smith and 4224 B by PM. but who counts. 

Thanks for the sale tip. 




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Fri, Sep 6, 2019 at 7:51 PM MWF  wrote:

Greetings everyone,

 

Scroll to the bottom of the email at the below link to a "Turning Sale" that 
Shopsmith is having. (EVEN if you do not own a Shopsmith.)

There you will find they have their lathe centers on sale - as well as their 
faceplates.

 

I know that many of our Group Members own at least one Shopsmith in addition to 
their Legacy Mill.

In any case, I think the lathe centers should work on both machines.  Their 
quality has always been very good - and these prices are good considering what 
you are getting.  And, like with Legacy, I have found Shopsmith's Customer 
Service to be very good.

Enjoy!

Mac

 

Here's the link:  https://www.shopsmith.com/ownersite/specials/7DV366

 


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RE: TK Made Items

I found some other simple links.  Keep in mind, some of this is really old.  

Here’s some attempts at making the rotary table easier to use. 

This is one of my favorites.
https://www.ornamentalmills.com/tips/TK_rotary_table_indexing/index.html

This is a huge time saver for small parts and large a well.  Centering 
difficulties have been eliminated.  My only change after this was to add a low 
profile t-track (not shown) for additional clamping opportunities. 

https://www.ornamentalmills.com/tips/TK_rotary_table_indexing/index.html


I didn’t make this, but I discovered the harbor freight dial indicators fit 
perfect in the router from hell.  No need for my digital scale conversion. I’ll 
admit I mostly use my digital scale though.

https://www.ornamentalmills.com/tips/z-axis_dial_indicator/index.html

Well I  think that is all the simple links to my stuff.  There are so many 
pictures to come.

Tim



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TK Made Items

I’ve been asked by a lot of members in the group if I have a catalog of
everything I’ve ever made for the Legacy Mill. I don’t. So I’m starting a
topic of items that I’ve made and have long forgotten or still would make if
there is enough Interest. I’m going to post them slowly over the next few
weeks as I find them. There will be no specific order. So here it goes.

Taller Legs for model 900 2” extension, also made 3” and a 4” extension legs.
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/legacy-ornamental-mills/LukcjELgxvg/Owpgaq7DxeoJ

My QC Direction changer. After talking with Curt George about the idea of a
better direction changer I came up with this.

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/legacy-ornamental-mills/LHkNujx8wkc/eewTSJa8wNoJ

That Post shows my TK Reciprocator inspired by the Atkins reciprocator from an
antique machine. Mine has more travel and options. It needs to be updated.

http://www.artscopes.com/legacyornamentalmill/tools/waveattachment/waveattachment.html

where does the time go…

One of the easiest way to level you 900 bed was with my TK Bed Height
Adjustment Tool. Four plates with a specific hole pattern to enable close to
infinite adjustments My extended height legs shown already implemented a
similar hole pattern so the rods could still be used for leveling your bed.

http://www.artscopes.com/legacyornamentalmill/tools/bedheightadjustment/bedheightadjustment.html

An extended gear set that fills in some holes in the standard set of pitches.
The truth is I can cut gear from about the 16 tooth to 120. I don’t cut Legacy
gears that are available from the factory.

http://www.artscopes.com/legacyornamentalmill/tools/extra_legacy_gears/

I made some horizontal clamps using 80/20 and a shopfox clamp. They worked
like champs and cost less than the legacy versions and had a quicker setup.

http://www.artscopes.com/legacyornamentalmill/tools/horizontal_clamps/

Then I really started thinking to much about indexing. I made a couple pages
that some people have not seen.

http://www.artscopes.com/legacyornamentalmill/tools/index_system/

This is different than from crank handle indexing, that’s Mike Input.

Here’s another thing I made for my rotary table. I don’t like having the
handle in the inside of the machine so I made two versions, and sold the
second. It makes so much sense to just shim your rotary table and direct
connect to the spindle and therefore the crank. So Simple!

http://www.artscopes.com/legacyornamentalmill/tools/rotary_table_mods/

Making life even easier I sold and x and y lock system for the 900’s Simple
lock plates and knobs and a bracket and you can ditch your slipping shaft
collars on the acme screws. The nob on the y axis has been replaced with the 5
star comfort fit knob.

http://www.artscopes.com/legacyornamentalmill/tools/x_axis_lock/

So that’s the easy stuff that I have found. I’ll continue to show other items
as I dig into some old computers and flash drives. I hope this helps others.

Tim

Ornamental News

I longtime ago Legacy made a simple magazine Called Ornamental News.  You can 
find what we have here.  https://www.ornamentalmills.com/omnews/ please do not 
redistribute this hidden link. 

Also, you will notice that many of the scans can be improved with todays 
technology.  If you have a complete set of these I will rescan them in there 
complete form which would include many of the ads for the equipment removed 
from these scans.  If you only have one or two, that would of course help.  
Send a note to me off the list and we can get these updated.

Also if you have the really early OM newsletters that came with the Woodchuck, 
that would be really great to see those back in play.

Tim


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RE: mill for sale

2019-09-08 Thread artmarbles

Joe has extra nuts 😀Sent from Samsung tablet
 Original message From: bulke...@mmnet.com.au Date: 9/8/19  
12:04 AM  (GMT-08:00) To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: 
mill for sale  Well hawkeye mac I missed that too lolol Bill From: 'Curt 
George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills  
Sent: Sunday, 8 September 2019 2:51 PMTo: 
legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: mill for sale OK Mac.I did 
not see that.  I was hoping it was there? after-all nothing would work without 
it... ;-) Now we need to look for the Acme nut for the carriage. ;-p As I said 
earlier,From the posting, the man says he had to cut photo's out to make room 
in the E-bay posting.  In Good faith, this looks to be a nice machine. Have a 
good night. C.A.G. On Sunday, September 8, 2019, 12:35:47 AM EDT, MWF 
 wrote:   Curtis, Go to the next to the last photo - 
the one with the 2 good sized pieces of MDF with bolts & wingnuts in them.  
Then look over on the far left side, running parallel with the left edge of the 
MDF panels.  See the long Acme threaded X-Axis rod?  The Acme rod (Y-Axis) I 
referenced earlier (in a different thread about this Mill) as being rusty is 
rustier that this X-Axis rod.  Any idea what these two MDF pieces are for?  My 
guess is they were to be put horizontally between the two lower frame 
extrusions - serving as a work surface for milling flat work pieces. 
Mac-Original Message- From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
Sent: Sep 7, 2019 3:56 PM To: Legacy Ornamental Mills Subject: Re: mill for 
sale Hey guys one more NOTE.On closer look, I do not see a acme screw in the 
photos.  I hope this is just a mistake? the owner stated like new, and limit on 
photos. perhaps it is just not on the unit when the photo was taken? (photo 
#3.) C.A.G.On Saturday, September 7, 2019, 03:47:29 PM EDT, Curt George 
 wrote:  Thanks BillI missed this one. Not a bad price 
if it stays where it is at? some good points are this is an older 1000ex. it 
has a #2MT. on both the head and tail-stock, so it can take  lathe adapters, 
like a drive spur and or live center I find this useful, On my Legacy.  
C.A.G.On Saturday, September 7, 2019, 03:27:12 AM EDT, bulke...@mmnet.com.au 
 wrote:   Has every one seen this one for sale  
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Wood-Work-Legacy-Ornamental-Wood-Working-Machine-With-Router-Porter-Cable/303267408835?hash=item469c256bc3:g:~NEAAOSwTLpdUvlK
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