subject:"Checkering today"

Re: Checkering today

2023-11-01 Thread 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills

 Wow! on so many different levels! ;-)
C.A.G.
On Wednesday, November 1, 2023 at 11:06:03 AM EDT, cdkr...@gmail.com 
 wrote:  

 No motors, non desired.  While it's not CNC or even consistentwith my other 
motor driven lathe carriages, I'm reluctant to go into 
that black hole.  It's a hobby, a pleasant one, and while i really dodetest 
tedium, there is a place for it.  I've gotten used to breaking work periods 
into small portions anyway because of ADD.  This 
tedium is somehow different and I'm wondering if it can be used 
to train longer attention spans. It takes a great deal of focus to keeptrack of 
indexing at these high counts, so manual gives time to thinkabout it. That's 
probably the difference between this and other tedium that does drive me nuts.  
RE: checkering bulge.  The effect I'm looking for does not involvefollowing the 
profile.  The effect is the intersection of a straight carriage move along the 
helix curve of the rotating work piece and the curved surface of the bulge.  
The cut will start in the air, get deeper into the cut as it passes the bulge 
and end in the air on the other side.  The cuts will be tapered grooves that 
change the appearance of spacing. We'll see.  
Will be starting Christmas presents, so REVO tinkering will be intermittent. 
Maybe can work REVO into some of the designs.
DanK 

On Wednesday, November 1, 2023 at 9:47:55 AM UTC-4 Curt George wrote:

 Thank you Dan.
Yes a template would be the best way to do what you are thinking about for the 
bulged checkering. If you are going to go through all this troubles to make 
this, You might as well start figuring out a better way to keep the pressure on 
the spindle when cutting form the side. Perhaps a counter balance weight like I 
use with my 200 ? this would let you keep a constant contact with the spindle 
while cutting from the side with out having you push or pull the Carriage's/Y 
axis while turning.
Last question, you are using a motor drive to run your machine while cutting? 
Doing all that turning of the crank handle would drive anyone crazy! ;-)
Have a great day.
C.A.G.
On Wednesday, November 1, 2023 at 07:05:51 AM EDT, Tim Ziegler 
 wrote:  

 Great information Dan. Looking forward to what you create now that the R-N-D 
is winding down. Now putting it in action for products. Thanks again.
Kind Regards,
Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & SpecialtyZiegler Laser Worx LLC14171 160th 
Ave.Foreston MN 56330
320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cell

On Wed, Nov 1, 2023 at 5:32 AM cdkr...@gmail.com  wrote:

Mornin' Curt.  The cuts were unidirectional and the router turned off for the 
backstroke through the fresh cut, no other changes. Except for moving the index 
pin the sync was not broken at any time until the cross cut setup required 
changing the reverse gear. Once the RH cuts were done, then it really didn't 
matter if the LH cuts started in the same spot.  I did try to line the first 
cross cut to a previous start, but it wasn't critical. 

I'll be trying this out on various shapes, the first being a checkered 
"bulge"handle where the cuts run into and out of the bulge from above the 
restof the work. To keep the cuts from too much depth in the middle the 
bulge will be fairly shallow.
>From there I suppose the next challenge will be a template following setup.Is 
>there an end to all this?  LOL There's Christmas work to do! I 
>supposecheckered handles could make stocking stuffers?

All the encouragement and helpful comments are much appreciated. Thank you all.
 DanK
On Wednesday, November 1, 2023 at 12:13:32 AM UTC-4 Curt George wrote:

Hey Dan.I have a question?  when running your machine, do you cut to a stop and 
the reverse the screw to get back?Or do you in some way mark your gears, and 
then return the carriage to the beginning?
I understand orientation of the gears and back lash could be a problem with the 
screw, So I was wondering how you adjust for any slop/play/backlash in the 
Legacy mechanical movement ?
Again Awesome job on this checkering.
"And as Paul Harvey use to say, Now you know the rest of the story." ;-)
C.A.G.

On Friday, October 27, 2023 at 11:32:28 AM UTC-4 cdkr...@gmail.com wrote:

Finished the cross hatch. Look at how sharp and crisp thediamonds are.  This 
raw off the LOM, no hand touch up.  
The change in spacing is barely detectable from large to smallend of this 2 
3/4" stretch. 
DanK

On Thursday, October 26, 2023 at 11:05:41 PM UTC-4 Tim Ziegler wrote:

Very Good Dan. It's great to see a plan coming together. 

Kind Regards,
Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & SpecialtyZiegler Laser Worx LLC14171 160th 
Ave.Foreston MN 56330
320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cell
On Thu, Oct 26, 2023 at 4:56 PM cdkr...@gmail.com  wrote:

Here's the work so far.  The taper is just a hair over 2° and I wonderedhow 
much that would affect the spacing at the small end.  I probablywon't see it 
until touching up.  You can see the tilt of the spindle railsthat put the 
cutting surface

Re: Checkering today

2023-11-01 Thread cdkr...@gmail.com

No motors, non desired.  While it's not CNC or even consistent
with my other motor driven lathe carriages, I'm reluctant to go into 
that black hole.  It's a hobby, a pleasant one, and while i really do
detest tedium, there is a place for it.  I've gotten used to breaking 
work periods into small portions anyway because of ADD.  This 
tedium is somehow different and I'm wondering if it can be used 
to train longer attention spans. It takes a great deal of focus to keep
track of indexing at these high counts, so manual gives time to think
about it. That's probably the difference between this and other 
tedium that does drive me nuts.  
RE: checkering bulge.  The effect I'm looking for does not involve
following the profile.  The effect is the intersection of a straight 
carriage move along the helix curve of the rotating work piece 
and the curved surface of the bulge.  The cut will start in the air, 
get deeper into the cut as it passes the bulge and end in the air 
on the other side.  The cuts will be tapered grooves that change 
the appearance of spacing. We'll see.  

Will be starting Christmas presents, so REVO tinkering will be 
intermittent. Maybe can work REVO into some of the designs.
DanK 

On Wednesday, November 1, 2023 at 9:47:55 AM UTC-4 Curt George wrote:

> Thank you Dan.
>
> Yes a template would be the best way to do what you are thinking about for 
> the bulged checkering. 
> If you are going to go through all this troubles to make this, You might 
> as well start figuring out a better way to keep the pressure on the spindle 
> when cutting form the side. Perhaps a counter balance weight like I use 
> with my 200 ? this would let you keep a constant contact with the spindle 
> while cutting from the side with out having you push or pull the 
> Carriage's/Y axis while turning.
>
> Last question, you are using a motor drive to run your machine while 
> cutting? 
> Doing all that turning of the crank handle would drive anyone crazy! ;-)
>
> Have a great day.
>
> C.A.G.
>
> On Wednesday, November 1, 2023 at 07:05:51 AM EDT, Tim Ziegler <
> timjz...@gmail.com> wrote: 
>
>
> Great information Dan. 
> Looking forward to what you create now that the R-N-D is winding down. Now 
> putting it in action for products. 
> Thanks again.
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
>
> 320-294-5798 <(320)%20294-5798> shop
> 320-630-2243 <(320)%20630-2243> cell
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 1, 2023 at 5:32 AM cdkr...@gmail.com  
> wrote:
>
> Mornin' Curt.  The cuts were unidirectional and the router turned off for 
> the backstroke through the fresh cut, no other changes. Except for 
> moving the index pin the sync was not broken at any time until the 
> cross cut setup required changing the reverse gear. Once the RH 
> cuts were done, then it really didn't matter if the LH cuts started in 
> the same spot.  I did try to line the first cross cut to a previous start, 
> but it wasn't critical. 
>
> I'll be trying this out on various shapes, the first being a checkered 
> "bulge"
> handle where the cuts run into and out of the bulge from above the rest
> of the work. To keep the cuts from too much depth in the middle the 
> bulge will be fairly shallow.
>
> From there I suppose the next challenge will be a template following setup.
> Is there an end to all this?  LOL There's Christmas work to do! I suppose
> checkered handles could make stocking stuffers?
>
> All the encouragement and helpful comments are much appreciated. 
> Thank you all.
> DanK
> On Wednesday, November 1, 2023 at 12:13:32 AM UTC-4 Curt George wrote:
>
> Hey Dan.
> I have a question?  
> when running your machine, do you cut to a stop and the reverse the screw 
> to get back?
> Or do you in some way mark your gears, and then return the carriage to the 
> beginning?
>
> I understand orientation of the gears and back lash could be a problem 
> with the screw, So I was wondering 
> how you adjust for any slop/play/backlash in the Legacy mechanical 
> movement ?
>
> Again Awesome job on this checkering.
>
> "And as Paul Harvey use to say, Now you know the rest of the story." ;-)
>
> C.A.G.
>
> On Friday, October 27, 2023 at 11:32:28 AM UTC-4 cdkr...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> Finished the cross hatch. Look at how sharp and crisp the
> diamonds are.  This raw off the LOM, no hand touch up.  
> The change in spacing is barely detectable from large to small
> end of this 2 3/4" stretch. 
> [image: Capture.JPG]
> DanK
>
> On Thursday, October 26, 2023 at 11:05:41 PM UTC-4 Tim Ziegler wrote:
>
> Very Good Dan. It's great to see a plan coming together. 
>
>
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
> On Thu, Oct 26, 2023 at 4:56 PM cdkr...@gmail.com  
> wrote:
>
> Here's the work so far.  The taper is just a hair over 2° and I wondered
>

Re: Checkering today

2023-11-01 Thread 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills

Thank you Dan.
Yes a template would be the best way to do what you are thinking about for the
bulged checkering. If you are going to go through all this troubles to make
this, You might as well start figuring out a better way to keep the pressure on
the spindle when cutting form the side. Perhaps a counter balance weight like I
use with my 200 ? this would let you keep a constant contact with the spindle
while cutting from the side with out having you push or pull the Carriage's/Y
axis while turning.
Last question, you are using a motor drive to run your machine while cutting?
Doing all that turning of the crank handle would drive anyone crazy! ;-)
Have a great day.
C.A.G.
On Wednesday, November 1, 2023 at 07:05:51 AM EDT, Tim Ziegler
wrote:

Great information Dan. Looking forward to what you create now that the R-N-D
is winding down. Now putting it in action for products. Thanks again.
Kind Regards,
Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & SpecialtyZiegler Laser Worx LLC14171 160th
Ave.Foreston MN 56330
320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cell

On Wed, Nov 1, 2023 at 5:32 AM cdkr...@gmail.com wrote:

Mornin' Curt. The cuts were unidirectional and the router turned off for the
backstroke through the fresh cut, no other changes. Except for moving the index
pin the sync was not broken at any time until the cross cut setup required
changing the reverse gear. Once the RH cuts were done, then it really didn't
matter if the LH cuts started in the same spot. I did try to line the first
cross cut to a previous start, but it wasn't critical.

I'll be trying this out on various shapes, the first being a checkered
"bulge"handle where the cuts run into and out of the bulge from above the
restof the work. To keep the cuts from too much depth in the middle the
bulge will be fairly shallow.
>From there I suppose the next challenge will be a template following setup.Is
>there an end to all this? LOL There's Christmas work to do! I
>supposecheckered handles could make stocking stuffers?

All the encouragement and helpful comments are much appreciated. Thank you all.
DanK
On Wednesday, November 1, 2023 at 12:13:32 AM UTC-4 Curt George wrote:

Hey Dan.I have a question? when running your machine, do you cut to a stop and
the reverse the screw to get back?Or do you in some way mark your gears, and
then return the carriage to the beginning?
I understand orientation of the gears and back lash could be a problem with the
screw, So I was wondering how you adjust for any slop/play/backlash in the
Legacy mechanical movement ?
Again Awesome job on this checkering.
"And as Paul Harvey use to say, Now you know the rest of the story." ;-)
C.A.G.

On Friday, October 27, 2023 at 11:32:28 AM UTC-4 cdkr...@gmail.com wrote:

Finished the cross hatch. Look at how sharp and crisp thediamonds are. This
raw off the LOM, no hand touch up.
The change in spacing is barely detectable from large to smallend of this 2
3/4" stretch.
DanK

On Thursday, October 26, 2023 at 11:05:41 PM UTC-4 Tim Ziegler wrote:

Very Good Dan. It's great to see a plan coming together.

Kind Regards,
Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & SpecialtyZiegler Laser Worx LLC14171 160th
Ave.Foreston MN 56330
320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cell
On Thu, Oct 26, 2023 at 4:56 PM cdkr...@gmail.com wrote:

Here's the work so far. The taper is just a hair over 2° and I wonderedhow
much that would affect the spacing at the small end. I probablywon't see it
until touching up. You can see the tilt of the spindle railsthat put the
cutting surface parallel to the main frame. I'm going totry one with a
slightly increased taper and let the checkering fadeinto nothingness

And the chart update.DanKOn Thursday, October 26, 2023 at 5:27:07 PM UTC-4
cdkr...@gmail.com wrote:

Today I was motivated to checker an apple piece that I tapered in a typical
handle fashion. So using the Taper Chart sheet from the now named
"LegacyCharts_V10.4" I found that the upper limit to the REVO settings for
taper is 3/8", i.e. the spindle rails won't go clear up to the main frame
rails. So I altered the chart to give a warning about values that can't be
used. And while I was versioning, I decided that the name should be adjusted
to better reflect content.

These are the settings I went with and was anxious about accuracy of the taper
calcs. They're dead on!
This is what it looks like to set up. Needs pretty precise measuring.

My picture of the work got corrupted in transfer, so after supper.DanK

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Re: Checkering today

2023-11-01 Thread Tim Ziegler

Great information Dan.
Looking forward to what you create now that the R-N-D is winding down. Now
putting it in action for products.
Thanks again.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Wed, Nov 1, 2023 at 5:32 AM cdkr...@gmail.com  wrote:

> Mornin' Curt.  The cuts were unidirectional and the router turned off for
> the backstroke through the fresh cut, no other changes. Except for
> moving the index pin the sync was not broken at any time until the
> cross cut setup required changing the reverse gear. Once the RH
> cuts were done, then it really didn't matter if the LH cuts started in
> the same spot.  I did try to line the first cross cut to a previous start,
> but it wasn't critical.
>
> I'll be trying this out on various shapes, the first being a checkered
> "bulge"
> handle where the cuts run into and out of the bulge from above the rest
> of the work. To keep the cuts from too much depth in the middle the
> bulge will be fairly shallow.
>
> From there I suppose the next challenge will be a template following setup.
> Is there an end to all this?  LOL There's Christmas work to do! I suppose
> checkered handles could make stocking stuffers?
>
> All the encouragement and helpful comments are much appreciated.
> Thank you all.
> DanK
> On Wednesday, November 1, 2023 at 12:13:32 AM UTC-4 Curt George wrote:
>
>> Hey Dan.
>> I have a question?
>> when running your machine, do you cut to a stop and the reverse the screw
>> to get back?
>> Or do you in some way mark your gears, and then return the carriage to
>> the beginning?
>>
>> I understand orientation of the gears and back lash could be a problem
>> with the screw, So I was wondering
>> how you adjust for any slop/play/backlash in the Legacy mechanical
>> movement ?
>>
>> Again Awesome job on this checkering.
>>
>> "And as Paul Harvey use to say, Now you know the rest of the story." ;-)
>>
>> C.A.G.
>>
>> On Friday, October 27, 2023 at 11:32:28 AM UTC-4 cdkr...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Finished the cross hatch. Look at how sharp and crisp the
>>> diamonds are.  This raw off the LOM, no hand touch up.
>>> The change in spacing is barely detectable from large to small
>>> end of this 2 3/4" stretch.
>>> [image: Capture.JPG]
>>> DanK
>>>
>>> On Thursday, October 26, 2023 at 11:05:41 PM UTC-4 Tim Ziegler wrote:
>>>
 Very Good Dan. It's great to see a plan coming together.




 Kind Regards,

 Timothy J. Ziegler
 Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
 Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
 14171 160th Ave.
 Foreston MN 56330

 320-294-5798 <(320)%20294-5798> shop
 320-630-2243 <(320)%20630-2243> cell

 On Thu, Oct 26, 2023 at 4:56 PM cdkr...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

> Here's the work so far.  The taper is just a hair over 2° and I
> wondered
> how much that would affect the spacing at the small end.  I probably
> won't see it until touching up.  You can see the tilt of the spindle
> rails
> that put the cutting surface parallel to the main frame.  I'm going to
> try one with a slightly increased taper and let the checkering fade
> into nothingness
> [image: Capture.JPG]
>
> And the chart update.
> DanK
> On Thursday, October 26, 2023 at 5:27:07 PM UTC-4 cdkr...@gmail.com
> wrote:
>
>> Today I was motivated to checker an apple piece that I tapered in a
>> typical handle fashion.  So using the Taper Chart sheet from the now 
>> named
>> "LegacyCharts_V10.4" I found that the upper limit to the REVO settings 
>> for
>> taper is 3/8", i.e. the spindle rails won't go clear up to the main frame
>> rails. So I altered the chart to give a warning about values that can't 
>> be
>> used.  And while I was versioning, I decided that the name should be
>> adjusted to better reflect content.
>> [image: Capture.JPG]
>>
>> These are the settings I went with and was anxious about accuracy of
>> the taper calcs.  They're dead on!
>> [image: Capture.JPG]
>>
>> This is what it looks like to set up.  Needs pretty precise
>> measuring.
>> [image: Capture.JPG]
>>
>> My picture of the work got corrupted in transfer, so after supper.
>> DanK
>>
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Re: Checkering today

2023-11-01 Thread cdkr...@gmail.com

meant to add "unidirectional between stops", yes.
DanK
On Wednesday, November 1, 2023 at 6:32:42 AM UTC-4 cdkr...@gmail.com wrote:

> Mornin' Curt.  The cuts were unidirectional and the router turned off for 
> the backstroke through the fresh cut, no other changes. Except for 
> moving the index pin the sync was not broken at any time until the 
> cross cut setup required changing the reverse gear. Once the RH 
> cuts were done, then it really didn't matter if the LH cuts started in 
> the same spot.  I did try to line the first cross cut to a previous start, 
> but it wasn't critical. 
>
> I'll be trying this out on various shapes, the first being a checkered 
> "bulge"
> handle where the cuts run into and out of the bulge from above the rest
> of the work. To keep the cuts from too much depth in the middle the 
> bulge will be fairly shallow.
>
> From there I suppose the next challenge will be a template following setup.
> Is there an end to all this?  LOL There's Christmas work to do! I suppose
> checkered handles could make stocking stuffers?
>
> All the encouragement and helpful comments are much appreciated. 
> Thank you all.
> DanK
> On Wednesday, November 1, 2023 at 12:13:32 AM UTC-4 Curt George wrote:
>
>> Hey Dan.
>> I have a question?  
>> when running your machine, do you cut to a stop and the reverse the screw 
>> to get back?
>> Or do you in some way mark your gears, and then return the carriage to 
>> the beginning?
>>
>> I understand orientation of the gears and back lash could be a problem 
>> with the screw, So I was wondering 
>> how you adjust for any slop/play/backlash in the Legacy mechanical 
>> movement ?
>>
>> Again Awesome job on this checkering.
>>
>> "And as Paul Harvey use to say, Now you know the rest of the story." ;-)
>>
>> C.A.G.
>>
>> On Friday, October 27, 2023 at 11:32:28 AM UTC-4 cdkr...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Finished the cross hatch. Look at how sharp and crisp the
>>> diamonds are.  This raw off the LOM, no hand touch up.  
>>> The change in spacing is barely detectable from large to small
>>> end of this 2 3/4" stretch. 
>>> [image: Capture.JPG]
>>> DanK
>>>
>>> On Thursday, October 26, 2023 at 11:05:41 PM UTC-4 Tim Ziegler wrote:
>>>
 Very Good Dan. It's great to see a plan coming together. 




 Kind Regards,

 Timothy J. Ziegler
 Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
 Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
 14171 160th Ave.
 Foreston MN 56330

 320-294-5798 <(320)%20294-5798> shop
 320-630-2243 <(320)%20630-2243> cell

 On Thu, Oct 26, 2023 at 4:56 PM cdkr...@gmail.com  
 wrote:

> Here's the work so far.  The taper is just a hair over 2° and I 
> wondered
> how much that would affect the spacing at the small end.  I probably
> won't see it until touching up.  You can see the tilt of the spindle 
> rails
> that put the cutting surface parallel to the main frame.  I'm going to
> try one with a slightly increased taper and let the checkering fade
> into nothingness 
> [image: Capture.JPG]
>
> And the chart update.
> DanK
> On Thursday, October 26, 2023 at 5:27:07 PM UTC-4 cdkr...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Today I was motivated to checker an apple piece that I tapered in a 
>> typical handle fashion.  So using the Taper Chart sheet from the now 
>> named 
>> "LegacyCharts_V10.4" I found that the upper limit to the REVO settings 
>> for 
>> taper is 3/8", i.e. the spindle rails won't go clear up to the main 
>> frame 
>> rails. So I altered the chart to give a warning about values that can't 
>> be 
>> used.  And while I was versioning, I decided that the name should be 
>> adjusted to better reflect content.  
>> [image: Capture.JPG]
>>
>> These are the settings I went with and was anxious about accuracy of 
>> the taper calcs.  They're dead on!
>> [image: Capture.JPG]
>>
>> This is what it looks like to set up.  Needs pretty precise 
>> measuring. 
>> [image: Capture.JPG]
>>
>> My picture of the work got corrupted in transfer, so after supper.
>> DanK
>>
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Re: Checkering today

2023-11-01 Thread cdkr...@gmail.com

Mornin' Curt.  The cuts were unidirectional and the router turned off for 
the backstroke through the fresh cut, no other changes. Except for 
moving the index pin the sync was not broken at any time until the 
cross cut setup required changing the reverse gear. Once the RH 
cuts were done, then it really didn't matter if the LH cuts started in 
the same spot.  I did try to line the first cross cut to a previous start, 
but it wasn't critical. 

I'll be trying this out on various shapes, the first being a checkered 
"bulge"
handle where the cuts run into and out of the bulge from above the rest
of the work. To keep the cuts from too much depth in the middle the 
bulge will be fairly shallow.

>From there I suppose the next challenge will be a template following setup.
Is there an end to all this?  LOL There's Christmas work to do! I suppose
checkered handles could make stocking stuffers?

All the encouragement and helpful comments are much appreciated. 
Thank you all.
DanK
On Wednesday, November 1, 2023 at 12:13:32 AM UTC-4 Curt George wrote:

> Hey Dan.
> I have a question?  
> when running your machine, do you cut to a stop and the reverse the screw 
> to get back?
> Or do you in some way mark your gears, and then return the carriage to the 
> beginning?
>
> I understand orientation of the gears and back lash could be a problem 
> with the screw, So I was wondering 
> how you adjust for any slop/play/backlash in the Legacy mechanical 
> movement ?
>
> Again Awesome job on this checkering.
>
> "And as Paul Harvey use to say, Now you know the rest of the story." ;-)
>
> C.A.G.
>
> On Friday, October 27, 2023 at 11:32:28 AM UTC-4 cdkr...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Finished the cross hatch. Look at how sharp and crisp the
>> diamonds are.  This raw off the LOM, no hand touch up.  
>> The change in spacing is barely detectable from large to small
>> end of this 2 3/4" stretch. 
>> [image: Capture.JPG]
>> DanK
>>
>> On Thursday, October 26, 2023 at 11:05:41 PM UTC-4 Tim Ziegler wrote:
>>
>>> Very Good Dan. It's great to see a plan coming together. 
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Kind Regards,
>>>
>>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>>> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
>>> 14171 160th Ave.
>>> Foreston MN 56330
>>>
>>> 320-294-5798 <(320)%20294-5798> shop
>>> 320-630-2243 <(320)%20630-2243> cell
>>>
>>> On Thu, Oct 26, 2023 at 4:56 PM cdkr...@gmail.com  
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Here's the work so far.  The taper is just a hair over 2° and I wondered
 how much that would affect the spacing at the small end.  I probably
 won't see it until touching up.  You can see the tilt of the spindle 
 rails
 that put the cutting surface parallel to the main frame.  I'm going to
 try one with a slightly increased taper and let the checkering fade
 into nothingness 
 [image: Capture.JPG]

 And the chart update.
 DanK
 On Thursday, October 26, 2023 at 5:27:07 PM UTC-4 cdkr...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

> Today I was motivated to checker an apple piece that I tapered in a 
> typical handle fashion.  So using the Taper Chart sheet from the now 
> named 
> "LegacyCharts_V10.4" I found that the upper limit to the REVO settings 
> for 
> taper is 3/8", i.e. the spindle rails won't go clear up to the main frame 
> rails. So I altered the chart to give a warning about values that can't 
> be 
> used.  And while I was versioning, I decided that the name should be 
> adjusted to better reflect content.  
> [image: Capture.JPG]
>
> These are the settings I went with and was anxious about accuracy of 
> the taper calcs.  They're dead on!
> [image: Capture.JPG]
>
> This is what it looks like to set up.  Needs pretty precise measuring. 
> [image: Capture.JPG]
>
> My picture of the work got corrupted in transfer, so after supper.
> DanK
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Re: Checkering today

2023-10-31 Thread 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills

Hey Dan.
I have a question?  
when running your machine, do you cut to a stop and the reverse the screw 
to get back?
Or do you in some way mark your gears, and then return the carriage to the 
beginning?

I understand orientation of the gears and back lash could be a problem with 
the screw, So I was wondering 
how you adjust for any slop/play/backlash in the Legacy mechanical movement 
?

Again Awesome job on this checkering.

"And as Paul Harvey use to say, Now you know the rest of the story." ;-)

C.A.G.

On Friday, October 27, 2023 at 11:32:28 AM UTC-4 cdkr...@gmail.com wrote:

> Finished the cross hatch. Look at how sharp and crisp the
> diamonds are.  This raw off the LOM, no hand touch up.  
> The change in spacing is barely detectable from large to small
> end of this 2 3/4" stretch. 
> [image: Capture.JPG]
> DanK
>
> On Thursday, October 26, 2023 at 11:05:41 PM UTC-4 Tim Ziegler wrote:
>
>> Very Good Dan. It's great to see a plan coming together. 
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Kind Regards,
>>
>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
>> 14171 160th Ave.
>> Foreston MN 56330
>>
>> 320-294-5798 <(320)%20294-5798> shop
>> 320-630-2243 <(320)%20630-2243> cell
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 26, 2023 at 4:56 PM cdkr...@gmail.com  
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Here's the work so far.  The taper is just a hair over 2° and I wondered
>>> how much that would affect the spacing at the small end.  I probably
>>> won't see it until touching up.  You can see the tilt of the spindle 
>>> rails
>>> that put the cutting surface parallel to the main frame.  I'm going to
>>> try one with a slightly increased taper and let the checkering fade
>>> into nothingness 
>>> [image: Capture.JPG]
>>>
>>> And the chart update.
>>> DanK
>>> On Thursday, October 26, 2023 at 5:27:07 PM UTC-4 cdkr...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Today I was motivated to checker an apple piece that I tapered in a 
 typical handle fashion.  So using the Taper Chart sheet from the now named 
 "LegacyCharts_V10.4" I found that the upper limit to the REVO settings for 
 taper is 3/8", i.e. the spindle rails won't go clear up to the main frame 
 rails. So I altered the chart to give a warning about values that can't be 
 used.  And while I was versioning, I decided that the name should be 
 adjusted to better reflect content.  
 [image: Capture.JPG]

 These are the settings I went with and was anxious about accuracy of 
 the taper calcs.  They're dead on!
 [image: Capture.JPG]

 This is what it looks like to set up.  Needs pretty precise measuring. 
 [image: Capture.JPG]

 My picture of the work got corrupted in transfer, so after supper.
 DanK

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Re: Checkering today

2023-10-28 Thread M.W.Foscue

Dan,
VERY Nice!
Thanks for sharing.

You can employ it as a "Home Defense Cudgel" if need be. 
Let's hope you don't need to!

Mac
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From: 
Sent: Oct 28, 2023 2:34 PM
To: Legacy Ornamental Mills 
Subject: Re: Checkering today

Yes, 720 index positions was my ambitious goal and I realized either a 
giant plate, a second duplex set, or (Eureka) a 72 hole plate with a 10
hole vernier would get the 1/2 resolution needed to get into the 
checkering ballpark. Y'all witnessed the struggle. :)
This handle took about 2 hours.  It would take me (a relatively inexperienced
checker-er) about two days to lay out, cut, and dress this rather large
field.  
This handle really comes alive with a Danish oil finish!  Haven't decided 
what to use it for.  In the mean time, I'll just enjoy looking at it and feeling
the crisp texture.  Opens up some design features. 
DanK

On Saturday, October 28, 2023 at 11:14:35 AM UTC-4 Curt George wrote:
 
Very nice job. 36 starts is way beyond anything that I've made over the years.
Awesome work.
thank you.
C.A.G.
On Saturday, October 28, 2023 at 09:31:53 AM EDT, cdkr...@gmail.com 
 wrote:


 



Curt, this is the same process used on the proof of concept test pieces.  It is 
a 
60 magnate router bit with three carbide lips sharpened to a very crisp
point.  The wood is apple which is a fine wood for carving.  I used 36
holes of the 72 hole index ring I made on the standard index gear because 
the diameter is much smaller than the test pieces.  The
spacing changes as it proceeds down the taper, almost imperceptibly but
the depth of cut is the same all the way.  The depth of cut is fairly deep at
0.063" (1/16").  Precision at every point is paramount.  Even the imperceptible
backlash of my REVO was too much.  Had to cut unidirectional.  Tedious.
But this handle went quickly because it's short and only 36 starts. 
DanKOn Saturday, October 28, 2023 at 6:55:36 AM UTC-4 Ccm Ccm wrote:
Very nice On Friday, October 27, 2023, cdkr...@gmail.com  
wrote: 
Finished the cross hatch. Look at how sharp and crisp the
diamonds are.  This raw off the LOM, no hand touch up.  
The change in spacing is barely detectable from large to small
end of this 2 3/4" stretch. 

DanK
On Thursday, October 26, 2023 at 11:05:41 PM UTC-4 Tim Ziegler wrote:
Very Good Dan. It's great to see a plan coming together. 
 
Kind Regards,Timothy J. Ziegler





On Thu, Oct 26, 2023 at 4:56 PM cdkr...@gmail.com  wrote:

Here's the work so far.  The taper is just a hair over 2 and I wondered
how much that would affect the spacing at the small end.  I probably
won't see it until touching up.  You can see the tilt of the spindle rails
that put the cutting surface parallel to the main frame.  I'm going to
try one with a slightly increased taper and let the checkering fade
into nothingness 

 
And the chart update.
DanK
On Thursday, October 26, 2023 at 5:27:07 PM UTC-4 cdkr...@gmail.com wrote:
Today I was motivated to checker an apple piece that I tapered in a typical 
handle fashion.  So using the Taper Chart sheet from the now named 
"LegacyCharts_V10.4" I found that the upper limit to the REVO settings for 
taper is 3/8", i.e. the spindle rails won't go clear up to the main frame 
rails. So I altered the chart to give a warning about values that can't be 
used.  And while I was versioning, I decided that the name should be adjusted 
to better reflect content.  

 
These are the settings I went with and was anxious about accuracy of the taper 
calcs.  They're dead on!

 
This is what it looks like to set up.  Needs pretty precise measuring. 

 
My picture of the work got corrupted in transfer, so after supper.
DanK












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Re: Checkering today

2023-10-28 Thread Tim Ziegler

Yup quite a feat. As I've mentioned.before. great work.

On Sat, Oct 28, 2023, 1:34 PM cdkr...@gmail.com  wrote:

> Yes, 720 index positions was my ambitious goal and I realized either a
> giant plate, a second duplex set, or (Eureka) a 72 hole plate with a 10
> hole vernier would get the 1/2° resolution needed to get into the
> checkering ballpark. Y'all witnessed the struggle. :)
> This handle took about 2 hours.  It would take me (a relatively
> inexperienced
> checker-er) about two days to lay out, cut, and dress this rather large
> field.
> This handle really comes alive with a Danish oil finish!  Haven't decided
> what to use it for.  In the mean time, I'll just enjoy looking at it and
> feeling
> the crisp texture.  Opens up some design features.
> DanK
>
> On Saturday, October 28, 2023 at 11:14:35 AM UTC-4 Curt George wrote:
>
>> Very nice job. 36 starts is way beyond anything that I've made over the
>> years.
>> Awesome work.
>>
>> thank you.
>>
>> C.A.G.
>>
>> On Saturday, October 28, 2023 at 09:31:53 AM EDT, cdkr...@gmail.com <
>> cdkr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Curt, this is the same process used on the proof of concept test pieces.
>> It is a
>> 60° magnate router bit with three carbide lips sharpened to a very crisp
>> point.  The wood is apple which is a fine wood for carving.  I used 36
>> holes of the 72 hole index ring I made on the standard index gear because
>> the diameter is much smaller than the test pieces.  The
>> spacing changes as it proceeds down the taper, almost imperceptibly but
>> the depth of cut is the same all the way.  The depth of cut is fairly
>> deep at
>> 0.063" (1/16").  Precision at every point is paramount.  Even the
>> imperceptible
>> backlash of my REVO was too much.  Had to cut unidirectional.  Tedious.
>> But this handle went quickly because it's short and only 36 starts.
>> DanK
>>
>>
>> On Saturday, October 28, 2023 at 6:55:36 AM UTC-4 Ccm Ccm wrote:
>>
>> Very nice
>>
>> On Friday, October 27, 2023, cdkr...@gmail.com  wrote:
>>
>> Finished the cross hatch. Look at how sharp and crisp the
>> diamonds are.  This raw off the LOM, no hand touch up.
>> The change in spacing is barely detectable from large to small
>> end of this 2 3/4" stretch.
>> [image: Capture.JPG]
>> DanK
>>
>> On Thursday, October 26, 2023 at 11:05:41 PM UTC-4 Tim Ziegler wrote:
>>
>> Very Good Dan. It's great to see a plan coming together.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Kind Regards,
>>
>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
>> 14171 160th Ave.
>> 
>> Foreston MN 56330
>> 
>>
>> 320-294-5798 shop
>> 320-630-2243 cell
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 26, 2023 at 4:56 PM cdkr...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Here's the work so far.  The taper is just a hair over 2° and I wondered
>> how much that would affect the spacing at the small end.  I probably
>> won't see it until touching up.  You can see the tilt of the spindle rails
>> that put the cutting surface parallel to the main frame.  I'm going to
>> try one with a slightly increased taper and let the checkering fade
>> into nothingness
>> [image: Capture.JPG]
>>
>> And the chart update.
>> DanK
>> On Thursday, October 26, 2023 at 5:27:07 PM UTC-4 cdkr...@gmail.com
>> wrote:
>>
>> Today I was motivated to checker an apple piece that I tapered in a
>> typical handle fashion.  So using the Taper Chart sheet from the now named
>> "LegacyCharts_V10.4" I found that the upper limit to the REVO settings for
>> taper is 3/8", i.e. the spindle rails won't go clear up to the main frame
>> rails. So I altered the chart to give a warning about values that can't be
>> used.  And while I was versioning, I decided that the name should be
>> adjusted to better reflect content.
>> [image: Capture.JPG]
>>
>> These are the settings I went with and was anxious about accuracy of the
>> taper calcs.  They're dead on!
>> [image: Capture.JPG]
>>
>> This is what it looks like to set up.  Needs pretty precise measuring.
>> [image: Capture.JPG]
>>
>> My picture of the work got corrupted in transfer, so after supper.
>> DanK
>>
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Re: Checkering today

2023-10-28 Thread cdkr...@gmail.com

Yes, 720 index positions was my ambitious goal and I realized either a 
giant plate, a second duplex set, or (Eureka) a 72 hole plate with a 10
hole vernier would get the 1/2° resolution needed to get into the 
checkering ballpark. Y'all witnessed the struggle. :)
This handle took about 2 hours.  It would take me (a relatively 
inexperienced
checker-er) about two days to lay out, cut, and dress this rather large
field.  
This handle really comes alive with a Danish oil finish!  Haven't decided 
what to use it for.  In the mean time, I'll just enjoy looking at it and 
feeling
the crisp texture.  Opens up some design features. 
DanK

On Saturday, October 28, 2023 at 11:14:35 AM UTC-4 Curt George wrote:

> Very nice job. 36 starts is way beyond anything that I've made over the 
> years.
> Awesome work.
>
> thank you.
>
> C.A.G.
>
> On Saturday, October 28, 2023 at 09:31:53 AM EDT, cdkr...@gmail.com <
> cdkr...@gmail.com> wrote: 
>
>
> Curt, this is the same process used on the proof of concept test pieces.  
> It is a 
> 60° magnate router bit with three carbide lips sharpened to a very crisp
> point.  The wood is apple which is a fine wood for carving.  I used 36
> holes of the 72 hole index ring I made on the standard index gear because 
> the diameter is much smaller than the test pieces.  The
> spacing changes as it proceeds down the taper, almost imperceptibly but
> the depth of cut is the same all the way.  The depth of cut is fairly deep 
> at
> 0.063" (1/16").  Precision at every point is paramount.  Even the 
> imperceptible
> backlash of my REVO was too much.  Had to cut unidirectional.  Tedious.
> But this handle went quickly because it's short and only 36 starts. 
> DanK
>
>
> On Saturday, October 28, 2023 at 6:55:36 AM UTC-4 Ccm Ccm wrote:
>
> Very nice 
>
> On Friday, October 27, 2023, cdkr...@gmail.com  wrote:
>
> Finished the cross hatch. Look at how sharp and crisp the
> diamonds are.  This raw off the LOM, no hand touch up.  
> The change in spacing is barely detectable from large to small
> end of this 2 3/4" stretch. 
> [image: Capture.JPG]
> DanK
>
> On Thursday, October 26, 2023 at 11:05:41 PM UTC-4 Tim Ziegler wrote:
>
> Very Good Dan. It's great to see a plan coming together. 
>
>
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
> 14171 160th Ave. 
> 
> Foreston MN 56330 
> 
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
> On Thu, Oct 26, 2023 at 4:56 PM cdkr...@gmail.com  
> wrote:
>
> Here's the work so far.  The taper is just a hair over 2° and I wondered
> how much that would affect the spacing at the small end.  I probably
> won't see it until touching up.  You can see the tilt of the spindle rails
> that put the cutting surface parallel to the main frame.  I'm going to
> try one with a slightly increased taper and let the checkering fade
> into nothingness 
> [image: Capture.JPG]
>
> And the chart update.
> DanK
> On Thursday, October 26, 2023 at 5:27:07 PM UTC-4 cdkr...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> Today I was motivated to checker an apple piece that I tapered in a 
> typical handle fashion.  So using the Taper Chart sheet from the now named 
> "LegacyCharts_V10.4" I found that the upper limit to the REVO settings for 
> taper is 3/8", i.e. the spindle rails won't go clear up to the main frame 
> rails. So I altered the chart to give a warning about values that can't be 
> used.  And while I was versioning, I decided that the name should be 
> adjusted to better reflect content.  
> [image: Capture.JPG]
>
> These are the settings I went with and was anxious about accuracy of the 
> taper calcs.  They're dead on!
> [image: Capture.JPG]
>
> This is what it looks like to set up.  Needs pretty precise measuring. 
> [image: Capture.JPG]
>
> My picture of the work got corrupted in transfer, so after supper.
> DanK
>
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Re: Checkering today

2023-10-28 Thread 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills

Very nice job. 36 starts is way beyond anything that I've made over the
years.Awesome work.
thank you.
C.A.G.
On Saturday, October 28, 2023 at 09:31:53 AM EDT, cdkr...@gmail.com
wrote:

Curt, this is the same process used on the proof of concept test pieces. It
is a
60° magnate router bit with three carbide lips sharpened to a very crisppoint.
The wood is apple which is a fine wood for carving. I used 36holes of the 72
hole index ring I made on the standard index gear because the diameter is much
smaller than the test pieces. Thespacing changes as it proceeds down the
taper, almost imperceptibly butthe depth of cut is the same all the way. The
depth of cut is fairly deep at0.063" (1/16"). Precision at every point is
paramount. Even the imperceptiblebacklash of my REVO was too much. Had to cut
unidirectional. Tedious.But this handle went quickly because it's short and
only 36 starts.
DanK

On Saturday, October 28, 2023 at 6:55:36 AM UTC-4 Ccm Ccm wrote:

Very nice

On Friday, October 27, 2023, cdkr...@gmail.com wrote:

On Thursday, October 26, 2023 at 11:05:41 PM UTC-4 Tim Ziegler wrote:

Very Good Dan. It's great to see a plan coming together.

And the chart update.DanKOn Thursday, October 26, 2023 at 5:27:07 PM UTC-4
cdkr...@gmail.com wrote:

These are the settings I went with and was anxious about accuracy of the taper
calcs. They're dead on!
This is what it looks like to set up. Needs pretty precise measuring.

My picture of the work got corrupted in transfer, so after supper.DanK

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Re: Checkering today

2023-10-28 Thread cdkr...@gmail.com

Curt, this is the same process used on the proof of concept test pieces.  
It is a 
60° magnate router bit with three carbide lips sharpened to a very crisp
point.  The wood is apple which is a fine wood for carving.  I used 36
holes of the 72 hole index ring I made on the standard index gear because 
the diameter is much smaller than the test pieces.  The
spacing changes as it proceeds down the taper, almost imperceptibly but
the depth of cut is the same all the way.  The depth of cut is fairly deep 
at
0.063" (1/16").  Precision at every point is paramount.  Even the 
imperceptible
backlash of my REVO was too much.  Had to cut unidirectional.  Tedious.
But this handle went quickly because it's short and only 36 starts. 
DanK


On Saturday, October 28, 2023 at 6:55:36 AM UTC-4 Ccm Ccm wrote:

> Very nice 
>
> On Friday, October 27, 2023, cdkr...@gmail.com  wrote:
>
>> Finished the cross hatch. Look at how sharp and crisp the
>> diamonds are.  This raw off the LOM, no hand touch up.  
>> The change in spacing is barely detectable from large to small
>> end of this 2 3/4" stretch. 
>> [image: Capture.JPG]
>> DanK
>>
>> On Thursday, October 26, 2023 at 11:05:41 PM UTC-4 Tim Ziegler wrote:
>>
>>> Very Good Dan. It's great to see a plan coming together. 
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Kind Regards,
>>>
>>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>>> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
>>> 14171 160th Ave. 
>>> 
>>> Foreston MN 56330 
>>> 
>>>
>>> 320-294-5798 <(320)%20294-5798> shop
>>> 320-630-2243 <(320)%20630-2243> cell
>>>
>>> On Thu, Oct 26, 2023 at 4:56 PM cdkr...@gmail.com  
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Here's the work so far.  The taper is just a hair over 2° and I wondered
 how much that would affect the spacing at the small end.  I probably
 won't see it until touching up.  You can see the tilt of the spindle 
 rails
 that put the cutting surface parallel to the main frame.  I'm going to
 try one with a slightly increased taper and let the checkering fade
 into nothingness 
 [image: Capture.JPG]

 And the chart update.
 DanK
 On Thursday, October 26, 2023 at 5:27:07 PM UTC-4 cdkr...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

> Today I was motivated to checker an apple piece that I tapered in a 
> typical handle fashion.  So using the Taper Chart sheet from the now 
> named 
> "LegacyCharts_V10.4" I found that the upper limit to the REVO settings 
> for 
> taper is 3/8", i.e. the spindle rails won't go clear up to the main frame 
> rails. So I altered the chart to give a warning about values that can't 
> be 
> used.  And while I was versioning, I decided that the name should be 
> adjusted to better reflect content.  
> [image: Capture.JPG]
>
> These are the settings I went with and was anxious about accuracy of 
> the taper calcs.  They're dead on!
> [image: Capture.JPG]
>
> This is what it looks like to set up.  Needs pretty precise measuring. 
> [image: Capture.JPG]
>
> My picture of the work got corrupted in transfer, so after supper.
> DanK
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Re: Checkering today

2023-10-28 Thread Ccm Ccm

Very nice

On Friday, October 27, 2023, cdkr...@gmail.com  wrote:

> Finished the cross hatch. Look at how sharp and crisp the
> diamonds are.  This raw off the LOM, no hand touch up.
> The change in spacing is barely detectable from large to small
> end of this 2 3/4" stretch.
> [image: Capture.JPG]
> DanK
>
> On Thursday, October 26, 2023 at 11:05:41 PM UTC-4 Tim Ziegler wrote:
>
>> Very Good Dan. It's great to see a plan coming together.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Kind Regards,
>>
>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
>> 14171 160th Ave.
>> 
>> Foreston MN 56330
>> 
>>
>> 320-294-5798 <(320)%20294-5798> shop
>> 320-630-2243 <(320)%20630-2243> cell
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 26, 2023 at 4:56 PM cdkr...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Here's the work so far.  The taper is just a hair over 2° and I wondered
>>> how much that would affect the spacing at the small end.  I probably
>>> won't see it until touching up.  You can see the tilt of the spindle
>>> rails
>>> that put the cutting surface parallel to the main frame.  I'm going to
>>> try one with a slightly increased taper and let the checkering fade
>>> into nothingness
>>> [image: Capture.JPG]
>>>
>>> And the chart update.
>>> DanK
>>> On Thursday, October 26, 2023 at 5:27:07 PM UTC-4 cdkr...@gmail.com
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Today I was motivated to checker an apple piece that I tapered in a
 typical handle fashion.  So using the Taper Chart sheet from the now named
 "LegacyCharts_V10.4" I found that the upper limit to the REVO settings for
 taper is 3/8", i.e. the spindle rails won't go clear up to the main frame
 rails. So I altered the chart to give a warning about values that can't be
 used.  And while I was versioning, I decided that the name should be
 adjusted to better reflect content.
 [image: Capture.JPG]

 These are the settings I went with and was anxious about accuracy of
 the taper calcs.  They're dead on!
 [image: Capture.JPG]

 This is what it looks like to set up.  Needs pretty precise measuring.
 [image: Capture.JPG]

 My picture of the work got corrupted in transfer, so after supper.
 DanK

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Re: Checkering today

2023-10-27 Thread 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills

 Yes. Very well done Dan.
Awesome job.
Was  that any tricks that you used this time that was not done before? New 
different router bit? type of wood  used? different spacing?...
Curious minds what to know. ;-)
C.A.G.
On Friday, October 27, 2023 at 06:15:24 PM EDT,  
wrote:  
 
 
Well done Dan very impressive 

  

Bill

  

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of cdkr...@gmail.com
Sent: Saturday, October 28, 2023 2:32 AM
To: Legacy Ornamental Mills 
Subject: Re: Checkering today

  

Finished the cross hatch. Look at how sharp and crisp the

diamonds are.  This raw off the LOM, no hand touch up.  

The change in spacing is barely detectable from large to small

end of this 2 3/4" stretch. 



DanK

  

On Thursday, October 26, 2023 at 11:05:41 PM UTC-4 Tim Ziegler wrote:


Very Good Dan. It's great to see a plan coming together. 

  

  

  




Kind Regards,

  

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

Ziegler Laser Worx LLC

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

  

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

  

On Thu, Oct 26, 2023 at 4:56 PM cdkr...@gmail.com  wrote:


Here's the work so far.  The taper is just a hair over 2° and I wondered

how much that would affect the spacing at the small end.  I probably

won't see it until touching up.  You can see the tilt of the spindle rails

that put the cutting surface parallel to the main frame.  I'm going to

try one with a slightly increased taper and let the checkering fade

into nothingness 



  

And the chart update.

DanK

On Thursday, October 26, 2023 at 5:27:07 PM UTC-4 cdkr...@gmail.com wrote:


Today I was motivated to checker an apple piece that I tapered in a typical 
handle fashion.  So using the Taper Chart sheet from the now named 
"LegacyCharts_V10.4" I found that the upper limit to the REVO settings for 
taper is 3/8", i.e. the spindle rails won't go clear up to the main frame 
rails. So I altered the chart to give a warning about values that can't be 
used.  And while I was versioning, I decided that the name should be adjusted 
to better reflect content.  



  

These are the settings I went with and was anxious about accuracy of the taper 
calcs.  They're dead on!



  

This is what it looks like to set up.  Needs pretty precise measuring. 



  

My picture of the work got corrupted in transfer, so after supper.

DanK




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RE: Checkering today

2023-10-27 Thread bulkeley

Well done Dan very impressive 

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of cdkr...@gmail.com
Sent: Saturday, October 28, 2023 2:32 AM
To: Legacy Ornamental Mills 
Subject: Re: Checkering today

 

Finished the cross hatch. Look at how sharp and crisp the

diamonds are.  This raw off the LOM, no hand touch up.  

The change in spacing is barely detectable from large to small

end of this 2 3/4" stretch. 



DanK

 

On Thursday, October 26, 2023 at 11:05:41 PM UTC-4 Tim Ziegler wrote:

Very Good Dan. It's great to see a plan coming together. 

 

 

 




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

Ziegler Laser Worx LLC

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798   shop

320-630-2243   cell

 

On Thu, Oct 26, 2023 at 4:56 PM cdkr...@gmail.com <mailto:cdkr...@gmail.com>  
mailto:cdkr...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Here's the work so far.  The taper is just a hair over 2° and I wondered

how much that would affect the spacing at the small end.  I probably

won't see it until touching up.  You can see the tilt of the spindle rails

that put the cutting surface parallel to the main frame.  I'm going to

try one with a slightly increased taper and let the checkering fade

into nothingness 

  
<https://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills/attach/2a995c5325a3a/Capture.JPG?part=0.1=1>
 

 

And the chart update.

DanK

On Thursday, October 26, 2023 at 5:27:07 PM UTC-4 cdkr...@gmail.com 
<mailto:cdkr...@gmail.com>  wrote:

Today I was motivated to checker an apple piece that I tapered in a typical 
handle fashion.  So using the Taper Chart sheet from the now named 
"LegacyCharts_V10.4" I found that the upper limit to the REVO settings for 
taper is 3/8", i.e. the spindle rails won't go clear up to the main frame 
rails. So I altered the chart to give a warning about values that can't be 
used.  And while I was versioning, I decided that the name should be adjusted 
to better reflect content.  

  
<https://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills/attach/2971bcfcd1a4f/Capture.JPG?part=0.1=1>
 

 

These are the settings I went with and was anxious about accuracy of the taper 
calcs.  They're dead on!

  
<https://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills/attach/2971bcfcd1a4f/Capture.JPG?part=0.2=1>
 

 

This is what it looks like to set up.  Needs pretty precise measuring. 

  
<https://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills/attach/2971bcfcd1a4f/Capture.JPG?part=0.3=1>
 

 

My picture of the work got corrupted in transfer, so after supper.

DanK

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Re: Checkering today

2023-10-27 Thread Milt

NiceSent from my iPhoneOn Oct 27, 2023, at 11:35 AM, Tim Ziegler wrote:Wow I am so impressed Dan. Great job. Those look absolutely beautiful Very Clean cuts too. Kind Regards,Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & SpecialtyZiegler Laser Worx LLC14171 160th Ave.Foreston MN 56330320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cellOn Fri, Oct 27, 2023 at 10:32 AM cdkr...@gmail.com wrote:Finished the cross hatch. Look at how sharp and crisp thediamonds are. This raw off the LOM, no hand touch up. The change in spacing is barely detectable from large to smallend of this 2 3/4" stretch. DanKOn Thursday, October 26, 2023 at 11:05:41 PM UTC-4 Tim Ziegler wrote:Very Good Dan. It's great to see a plan coming together. Kind Regards,Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & SpecialtyZiegler Laser Worx LLC14171 160th Ave.Foreston MN 56330320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cellOn Thu, Oct 26, 2023 at 4:56 PM cdkr...@gmail.com wrote:Here's the work so far. The taper is just a hair over 2° and I wonderedhow much that would affect the spacing at the small end. I probablywon't see it until touching up. You can see the tilt of the spindle railsthat put the cutting surface parallel to the main frame. I'm going totry one with a slightly increased taper and let the checkering fadeinto nothingness And the chart update.DanKOn Thursday, October 26, 2023 at 5:27:07 PM UTC-4 cdkr...@gmail.com wrote:Today I was motivated to checker an apple piece that I tapered in a typical handle fashion. So using the Taper Chart sheet from the now named "LegacyCharts_V10.4" I found that the upper limit to the REVO settings for taper is 3/8", i.e. the spindle rails won't go clear up to the main frame rails. So I altered the chart to give a warning about values that can't be used. And while I was versioning, I decided that the name should be adjusted to better reflect content. These are the settings I went with and was anxious about accuracy of the taper calcs. They're dead on!This is what it looks like to set up. Needs pretty precise measuring. My picture of the work got corrupted in transfer, so after supper.DanK

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Re: Checkering today

2023-10-27 Thread Tim Ziegler

Wow I am so impressed Dan. Great job. Those look absolutely beautiful
Very Clean cuts too.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
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320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Fri, Oct 27, 2023 at 10:32 AM cdkr...@gmail.com 
wrote:

> Finished the cross hatch. Look at how sharp and crisp the
> diamonds are.  This raw off the LOM, no hand touch up.
> The change in spacing is barely detectable from large to small
> end of this 2 3/4" stretch.
> [image: Capture.JPG]
> DanK
>
> On Thursday, October 26, 2023 at 11:05:41 PM UTC-4 Tim Ziegler wrote:
>
>> Very Good Dan. It's great to see a plan coming together.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Kind Regards,
>>
>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
>> 14171 160th Ave.
>> Foreston MN 56330
>>
>> 320-294-5798 <(320)%20294-5798> shop
>> 320-630-2243 <(320)%20630-2243> cell
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 26, 2023 at 4:56 PM cdkr...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Here's the work so far.  The taper is just a hair over 2° and I wondered
>>> how much that would affect the spacing at the small end.  I probably
>>> won't see it until touching up.  You can see the tilt of the spindle
>>> rails
>>> that put the cutting surface parallel to the main frame.  I'm going to
>>> try one with a slightly increased taper and let the checkering fade
>>> into nothingness
>>> [image: Capture.JPG]
>>>
>>> And the chart update.
>>> DanK
>>> On Thursday, October 26, 2023 at 5:27:07 PM UTC-4 cdkr...@gmail.com
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Today I was motivated to checker an apple piece that I tapered in a
 typical handle fashion.  So using the Taper Chart sheet from the now named
 "LegacyCharts_V10.4" I found that the upper limit to the REVO settings for
 taper is 3/8", i.e. the spindle rails won't go clear up to the main frame
 rails. So I altered the chart to give a warning about values that can't be
 used.  And while I was versioning, I decided that the name should be
 adjusted to better reflect content.
 [image: Capture.JPG]

 These are the settings I went with and was anxious about accuracy of
 the taper calcs.  They're dead on!
 [image: Capture.JPG]

 This is what it looks like to set up.  Needs pretty precise measuring.
 [image: Capture.JPG]

 My picture of the work got corrupted in transfer, so after supper.
 DanK

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Re: Checkering today

2023-10-27 Thread cdkr...@gmail.com


Finished the cross hatch. Look at how sharp and crisp the
diamonds are.  This raw off the LOM, no hand touch up.  
The change in spacing is barely detectable from large to small
end of this 2 3/4" stretch. 
[image: Capture.JPG]
DanK

On Thursday, October 26, 2023 at 11:05:41 PM UTC-4 Tim Ziegler wrote:

> Very Good Dan. It's great to see a plan coming together. 
>
>
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
>
> 320-294-5798 <(320)%20294-5798> shop
> 320-630-2243 <(320)%20630-2243> cell
>
> On Thu, Oct 26, 2023 at 4:56 PM cdkr...@gmail.com  
> wrote:
>
>> Here's the work so far.  The taper is just a hair over 2° and I wondered
>> how much that would affect the spacing at the small end.  I probably
>> won't see it until touching up.  You can see the tilt of the spindle rails
>> that put the cutting surface parallel to the main frame.  I'm going to
>> try one with a slightly increased taper and let the checkering fade
>> into nothingness 
>> [image: Capture.JPG]
>>
>> And the chart update.
>> DanK
>> On Thursday, October 26, 2023 at 5:27:07 PM UTC-4 cdkr...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Today I was motivated to checker an apple piece that I tapered in a 
>>> typical handle fashion.  So using the Taper Chart sheet from the now named 
>>> "LegacyCharts_V10.4" I found that the upper limit to the REVO settings for 
>>> taper is 3/8", i.e. the spindle rails won't go clear up to the main frame 
>>> rails. So I altered the chart to give a warning about values that can't be 
>>> used.  And while I was versioning, I decided that the name should be 
>>> adjusted to better reflect content.  
>>> [image: Capture.JPG]
>>>
>>> These are the settings I went with and was anxious about accuracy of the 
>>> taper calcs.  They're dead on!
>>> [image: Capture.JPG]
>>>
>>> This is what it looks like to set up.  Needs pretty precise measuring. 
>>> [image: Capture.JPG]
>>>
>>> My picture of the work got corrupted in transfer, so after supper.
>>> DanK
>>>
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Re: Checkering today

2023-10-26 Thread Tim Ziegler

Very Good Dan. It's great to see a plan coming together.




Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
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On Thu, Oct 26, 2023 at 4:56 PM cdkr...@gmail.com 
wrote:

> Here's the work so far.  The taper is just a hair over 2° and I wondered
> how much that would affect the spacing at the small end.  I probably
> won't see it until touching up.  You can see the tilt of the spindle rails
> that put the cutting surface parallel to the main frame.  I'm going to
> try one with a slightly increased taper and let the checkering fade
> into nothingness
> [image: Capture.JPG]
>
> And the chart update.
> DanK
> On Thursday, October 26, 2023 at 5:27:07 PM UTC-4 cdkr...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Today I was motivated to checker an apple piece that I tapered in a
>> typical handle fashion.  So using the Taper Chart sheet from the now named
>> "LegacyCharts_V10.4" I found that the upper limit to the REVO settings for
>> taper is 3/8", i.e. the spindle rails won't go clear up to the main frame
>> rails. So I altered the chart to give a warning about values that can't be
>> used.  And while I was versioning, I decided that the name should be
>> adjusted to better reflect content.
>> [image: Capture.JPG]
>>
>> These are the settings I went with and was anxious about accuracy of the
>> taper calcs.  They're dead on!
>> [image: Capture.JPG]
>>
>> This is what it looks like to set up.  Needs pretty precise measuring.
>> [image: Capture.JPG]
>>
>> My picture of the work got corrupted in transfer, so after supper.
>> DanK
>>
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