Fwd: NEW TOOL ALERT! EZ∙Drive System for Woodpeckers Slab Flattening Mills.

[Tim Ziegler]

Now look at what they have come up with.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
14171 160th Ave.
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From: Woodpeckers 
Date: Tue, Jul 9, 2024 at 1:49 AM
Subject: NEW TOOL ALERT! EZ∙Drive System for Woodpeckers Slab Flattening
Mills.
To: 


Stop pushing and pulling your Slab Flattening Mill. Feed it with EZ∙Drive!
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[image: Woodpeckers EZ-Drive System]


*If you want to mill more slabs in less time and with less effort, add
Woodpeckers new EZ∙Drive to your Slab Flattening Mill. *With EZ∙Drive,
advancing your router is as easy as turning a couple small cranks…one moves
the router carriage across the slab and the other moves it end to end. You
can get EZ∙Drive packaged with a new Slab Flattening Mill Pro or you can
add EZ∙Drive to any Woodpeckers Slab Flattening Mill you already own…any
model of any age. EZ∙-Drive uses cogged belts to move the router carriage.
Once installed, all the original features of the Slab Flattening Mill are
still there, but you're no longer pushing and pulling the carriage. You're
feeding it with EZ∙Drive.
[image: Woodpeckers EZ-Drive System]


*From concept through production model,* the plan has always been for
EZ∙Drive to be user-installed on any Woodpeckers Slab Flattening Mill. Most
folks have their mill converted in a couple hours using nothing but common
toolbox items and the hex keys provided. Once installed, moving your router
carriage is about like raising the blade on a brand-new table saw…only with
a better gear ratio. No more reaching across those 4' slabs. No more
guessing about moving the carriage along the length, just crank and go.
[image: Woodpeckers EZ-Drive System]


*EZ∙Drive's cogged belts are the key. *The sprockets on the crank handles
mesh with the belts to ensure positive movement with no slippage. Belts
synchronized on both sides of the carriage and along both base rails keep
things moving in straight lines. We include enough belting to take care of
any width or length configuration possible with any of the Slab Flattening
Mill models…no matter how new or how old.
[image: Woodpeckers EZ-Drive System]


*Imagine milling slabs without ever leaning *out over the bed and only
touching the router to turn it on and off. You'll get more done in less
time and with less wear and tear on your body.
[image: Woodpeckers EZ-Drive System]


*Like all Woodpeckers products, the EZ∙Drive System for the Slab Flattening
Mills *is precisely machined and carefully inspected in our Strongsville,
Ohio, facility, just south of Cleveland. We're launching EZ∙-Drive with
special introductory pricing for a limited time. *Order before July 29,
2024 to take advantage of the special and take the stretching and leaning
out of your slab projects.  Delivery is scheduled for August.*
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Fwd: Lecture and Demo at Yale University!

[Tim Ziegler]

Just sharing for those interested.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
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Foreston MN 56330

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From: Plumier Foundation 
Date: Mon, Jan 22, 2024 at 6:17 PM
Subject: Lecture and Demo at Yale University!
To: 


We are giving a lecture for the Yale University Art Gallery.

>From Kings to Craftsmen:

Ornamental Turning and the Rose Engine Lathe

Greetings!

We are excited and proud to announce that we've been asked to give a
lecture and demo at the Yale University furniture archive on the history of
complex turning along with a demo of the rose engine lathe.



Admission is free, but you must sign up. You can get tickets here: Tickets
to Lecture



The Lecture is March 22, 2024, at 12:30-2:00pm.


We hope to see a number of you there.

If you come to the lecture, you may also want to visit the Yale Art Museum
afterwards. It's a world class museum with a lot to offer. The museum
closes at 5.


If you have questions, give me a call at (570) 352-7137 or email me at
da...@plumier.org.

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Fwd: Posting to LOM group

[Tim Ziegler]

Here is some of Dan's work. He tried posting but it did not go through.
Please check it out and let us know if your getting posts?

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
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From: Dan Krager 
Date: Mon, Dec 18, 2023 at 4:10 PM
Subject: Posting to LOM group
To: timjzieg...@gmail.com 


Here's what I try to post.  No error message, just blinks and doesn't post.
Merry Christmas, everyone!

It's been pretty quiet for wood projects using the mill, so here's a random
one completed today for no other reason than that it was there.The role of
the mill was to index the five flutes and establish the taper of the
flutes.  The rest was turned on wood lathe and carved detail touchup.
There is a hole to accommodate the 3 1/2" test tube so a live flower bud
could be displayed for a bit. Spalted apple wood.  Man, that stuff is HARD!
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DanK
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Fwd: In Case You Missed It...NEW TOOL ALERT: Rout-N-Plane Bench Top Board Mill.

[Tim Ziegler]

Well here is something else new they came out with. Reasonable price even.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
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320-294-5798 shop
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From: Woodpeckers 
Date: Sat, Nov 25, 2023 at 9:52 AM
Subject: In Case You Missed It...NEW TOOL ALERT: Rout-N-Plane Bench Top
Board Mill.
To: 


Level end grain cutting boards safely and accurately with almost any
router.
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[image: Woodpeckers Rout-N-Plane Bench Top Board Mill]


*In the last few months, *we've launched several router bits engineered for
leveling and smoothing end grain cutting boards…sized to work with
everything from cordless palm routers to the biggest plunge routers on the
market. Now here's the next piece of the puzzle. *Woodpeckers New
Rout-N-Plane Bench Top Board Mill.* Just fix your cutting board to a flat
table at least 22-1/2" wide, adjust the Rout-N-Plane height just above the
board and set your router depth of cut to shave a little off the top. In
minutes you'll have a flat board ready for finish sanding. You'll knock out
your Christmas present list in a couple easy weekends.
[image: Woodpeckers Rout-N-Plane Bench Top Board Mill]


*End grain cutting boards *stand up to heavy work in the kitchen better
than edge grain or face grain boards. But leveling an end grain board
should never be done on a jointer or thickness planer. It's not only
ineffective, it's potentially dangerous to both you and your planer (and
the cutting board won't survive, either). Leveling them with a router sled
isn't exactly a new idea, but Rout-N-Plane offers convenience and
flexibility you can't get with shop-built sleds. Rout-N-Plane adjusts in
seconds to safely guide any router across your board. It adjusts for board
thicknesses from 3/4" to a full 3". It works on boards up to 15 " wide
(based on a 6" diameter base with a 1" diameter cutter). And length is only
limited by how much table you have.
[image: Woodpeckers Rout-N-Plane Bench Top Board Mill]


*Adjusting the height of Rout-N-Plane* couldn't be simpler. Just find the
tab setting on the ends that puts the router support just above your board
and spin in the locking knobs. The powder-coat finish slides easily across
benchtop surfaces and provides a low-friction surface for your router base,
too. A centering guide is provided to properly set the router edge guides.
And a sacrificial fence is provided to keep Rout-N-Plane square to your
project.
[image: Woodpeckers Rout-N-Plane Bench Top Board Mill]


*While we focused of end grain cutting boards *when we engineered
Rout-N-Plane, it turns out they're only the beginning. Think of a twisted
plank wider than your jointer with grain too beautiful to cut up and glue
into a panel. Fix it to a piece of MDF with shims and hot-melt glue and
surface it flat with Rout-N-Plane. The same thing can be done with 15" and
under natural edge slabs. If it's under 3" thick and narrower than 15", you
can level it with Rout-N-Plane.
[image: Woodpeckers Rout-N-Plane Bench Top Board Mill]


*Like all Woodpeckers products, the Rout-N-Plane Bench Top Board Mill *is
precisely machined and carefully inspected in our Strongsville, Ohio
factory (just south of Cleveland). We're launching Rout-N-Plane with
special introductory pricing and while supplies last we're shipping within
a few days of your order. *Order before Tuesday, December 12, 2023 to take
advantage of the special pricing and be among the first to put Rout-N-Plane
to work in your shop. *
[image: Woodpeckers Rout-N-Plane Bench Top Board Mill]

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Fwd: Monday, November 27th is the Last Day to Save on the Newest Ultra-Shear 1" 3-Flute Carbide Insert Spoilboard Bit

[Tim Ziegler]

Check out these bits that WoodPecker has come out with now.
They are really going places with their bits. wow.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


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From: Ultra∙Shear Bits 
Date: Sat, Nov 25, 2023 at 8:01 AM
Subject: Monday, November 27th is the Last Day to Save on the Newest
Ultra-Shear 1" 3-Flute Carbide Insert Spoilboard Bit
To: 


Always cut with a sharp tool, but never buy another!
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*Ultra-Shear's 1" Carbide Insert Spoilboard Bit *brings the advantages of
carbide inserts to even the smallest routers. Carbide insert bits last
almost forever, because when the edges dull, you just rotate the inserts
and get right back to work. These have been around a while in 2" and larger
diameters, but this clever design fits three inserts into a 1" cutting
circle that even cordless palm routers can handle. If you're intimidated by
larger routers…or your project doesn’t call for one…the Ultra-Shear 1"
Carbide Insert Spoilboard Bit lets you tackle surface milling projects with
any router. And today's most popular surface milling projects are end grain
cutting boards.
[image: Ultra∙Shear Carbide Insert Spoilboard Bits]


*End grain cutting boards* stand up to heavy work in the kitchen better
than edge grain or face grain boards. But leveling an end grain board
should never be done on a jointer or thickness planer. It's not only
ineffective, it's potentially dangerous. Until now your choices were to use
a heavy router with a 2" spoilboard bit or worse, try to flatten it with a
belt sander. Our new 1" Carbide Insert Spoilboard Bit changes that, letting
you safely and effectively level an end grain cutting board with something
as small as a cordless trim router. To make sure you can use it in whatever
router you have, we make it in three shank sizes, 1/4", 8mm and 1/2".
[image: Ultra∙Shear Carbide Insert Spoilboard Bits]


*Replaceable carbide inserts *originated in metal working. Among
woodworkers, turners first embraced them for lathe tools that never need
sharpening. Now more and more are showing up in router bits, and why not?
Why keep throwing money away every time a router bit gets dull? With insert
bits, a new set of razor-sharp cutting edges is just a few seconds away,
anytime, day or night.
[image: Ultra∙Shear Carbide Insert Spoilboard Bits]


*Woodpeckers manufactures Ultra-Shear Router Bits* right here in our
Strongsville, Ohio facility and ships them directly, saving you time and
money. You get top-quality American-made bits at extremely competitive
prices. *The regular price for the Compact Spoilboard Bit is $59.61, but if
you order before November 27, 2023 it's only $49.99 saving you over $9 +
FREE** Shipping! *
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Fwd: Woodturning Newsletter - What You Don't Know

[Tim Ziegler]

Turning accessories we all could use. I have his LongWorth Chuck. And its
the one I mounted on my Rotary Table on my 1200.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


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From: Ron Brown's Best, LLC 
Date: Fri, Oct 27, 2023 at 11:03 PM
Subject: Woodturning Newsletter - What You Don't Know
To: 


*Happy Halloween 2023*


*You Don't Know What You Don't Know*



I've had the privilege of speaking to an unusual number of folks at the
beginning of their journeys over the past couple of weeks. Some are new
turners, some new flat workers, and some just beginning their walk with the
one true God. One of the hard lessons I've taken from 13 years on the
Woodworking Show Circuit is to listen and evaluate each person's
perspective before I formulate an answer. Don't automatically assume they
know as much as you do.



Today we delight in speaking to our customers by phone when they have
questions about any of our products or turning in general. I've learned to
never assume anyone knows the proper terminology (jargon) or fully
understands how something is supposed to work.  By listening to their
questions and answers I am able to relate the solutions to their particular
situation at their level of understanding.



Many years ago, Sweet Janice and I were on a California lake in our Hobie
Cat catamaran sailboat in a pretty good breeze. Suddenly a strong gust of
wind threatened to capsize us as I shouted "Loose the sheet!!!" After
nearly 50 years I still remember her response, "What's a sheet???" as we
pitchpoled stern over bow and entered the cold cold water of a clear
mountain lake. We survived even though she didn't release the rope in time
due to my unclear instructions.



When you have an opportunity to explain something to folks who are just
beginning their adventure or those not as experienced as you are, use terms
they can understand and use examples appropriate for their level of
understanding and do it on purpose. Don't automatically assume someone
knows what an MT2 means, or 1x8 vs 1.25. When you talk about swing
sometimes you can see their eyes glaze over right in front of you. There
was a time when you didn't know either.



Don't be afraid to ask simple questions to evaluate their level of
understanding. Effective communication has two basic parts; the message
sent clearly and the message received and understood. Using terms and
examples that are inconsistent with someone's level of understanding is
almost the same as speaking Chinese to a non-Chinese-speaking person.



*“Our business is infested with idiots who try to impress by using
pretentious jargon”. David Ogilvy*



Any time we start something new it can be particularly intimidating. Resist
the urge to show off how much you know, but rather choose to deliver an
answer they can understand. In the beginning, most people don't even know
what questions to ask; they don't know what they don't know. Be patient
because you were new once too. Remember that wherever you go, there you are.



Here is my inspiration for this week's message:



Prov 18:13 AMP

He who answers a matter before he hears the facts—it is folly and shame to
him.



Jer 33:3 MSG

'Call to me and I will answer you. I'll tell you marvelous and wondrous
things that you could never figure out on your own.'



Col 4:6 AMP

Let your speech at all times be gracious (pleasant and winsome), seasoned
[as it were] with salt, [so that you may never be at a loss] to know how
you ought to answer anyone [who puts a question to you].




We love helping our customers with turning questions. You can speak to a
live person when you call. If we are not available, we will return your
call as soon as possible. Don't hesitate to pick up the phone. If you have
difficulty checking out, call us and we will be happy to complete your
order on the phone. (770) 962-3821.



*Tool Review By The Wyoming Woodturner - Sam Angelo
*



Sam will release his review of our New Parting Tool Kit on Sunday Oct 29,
2023 around lunch time. I've linked to his channel so you can watch it if
you are interested. If you are curious to see the P Type parting tool in
action, Sam makes shavings for you.



Sam is a longtime friend and excellent highly skilled woodturner. He has
785 videos and 68.5K subscribers. This video is worth your time. Check it
out after church.


*New Accessory for the Bowl From A Board Easy Cut System*



*Premium Brass Parting Tool Guide Upgrade Kit*



Some customers expressed concern about using HDPE for the adjustable guide
assembly. So, we introduced a steel pin solution that is not affected by
heat. If you are using the parting tool correctly, heat shouldn’t be an
issue in the first place.



The 

Fwd: Up To 12% OFF! | Fall Sale Live Now

[Tim Ziegler]

Here you go guys. Includes that awesome insert bit too.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


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From: SpeTool 
Date: Mon, Sep 25, 2023 at 7:16 AM
Subject: Up To 12% OFF! | Fall Sale Live Now
To: 


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Double Bearings 32mm Dia x 1/2" Shank x 65mm Cutting Length x 5" Long
Pattern Template Router Bit

Fwd: Tim, Legacy's recommended Barley Twist cutter size guide.

[Tim Ziegler]

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
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From: Legacy Woodworking Machinery 
Date: Fri, Sep 8, 2023 at 4:41 PM
Subject: Tim, Legacy's recommended Barley Twist cutter size guide.
To: Tim Ziegler 


Hi Tim,


Recently we demonstrated the Barley Twist router bits making single & multi
start barley twists and hollow spirals.  If you have not seen those videos,
jump over to Legacy's YouTube Channel

.
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The main question that came from those videos is what size barley twist
cutter should I buy?  Below, you can find a few recommendations to help you
decide.  Simply, choose how many spiral starts and the stock diameter, and
the charts will recommend which cutter to use.  You can also use
these formulas.


Determine Cutter Size For Single Start Barley Twist:

- Barley Twist Cutter Diameter = Diameter of Round Turned Stock


Determine Cutter Size For Multi Start Barley Twist:

- Barley Twist Cutter Diameter = 2 X Diameter of Stock / Number of Starts


Determine Cutter Size For Hollowing a Barley Twist:

- Long Straight Cutter Diameter = 25% X Barley Twist Cutter Diameter


You can order these cutters directly from *Magnate at 1-800-827-2316*


Recommended Barley Twist Router Bit for 1 or 2 Start Spirals

Recommended Barley Twist Router Bit for Three Start Spirals

Recommended Straight Cutter for Hollow Spirals

Call 801491 0010 or visit out website to learn more about CNC woodworking
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Re: Fwd: Tim, Making a Classic Barley Twist on a Legacy CNC

[Tim Ziegler]

Your welcome Mac,

Cool they are bringing all the things back that made the LOM popular in the
first place.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
14171 160th Ave.
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On Tue, Sep 5, 2023 at 9:15 PM M.W.Foscue  wrote:

> Tim.
>
> Thank you,
>
> VERY GOOD info.!
>
> Cheers!
>
> Mac
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>
> -Original Message-
> From: 
> Sent: Sep 5, 2023 10:06 PM
> To: LOM Group 
> Subject: Fwd: Tim, Making a Classic Barley Twist on a Legacy CNC
>
>
> Here's another one guys.
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
> -- Forwarded message -
> From: Legacy Woodworking Machinery 
> Date: Tue, Sep 5, 2023 at 5:27 PM
> Subject: Tim, Making a Classic Barley Twist on a Legacy CNC
> To: Tim Ziegler 
>
>
>
>
> Hi Tim,
>
>
> We're going to show the barley twist router bit in action. This
> video covers how to make classic barley twists using Legacy's CCAM software
> and Magnate's series of barley twist router bits.  Legacy developed both
> the router bit profiles and the software so you can easily go from a rough
> blank to a barley twist in minutes.
>
>
> <https://legacywoodworking.lt.acemlnb.com/Prod/link-tracker?redirectUrl=aHR0cHMlM0ElMkYlMkZ5b3V0dS5iZSUyRlJXSjFIdERzY3pN=%7C%7C252137679%7C%7C=legacywoodworking.activehosted.com=qAV%2FjzakDal2SZvZpQbTyPYEJsLhHBi8Sfl%2BTHwl%2F56O0kg1sQ%3D%3D%3Ai3k3QnlXAvUO98De%2FSj%2FMOSS6fu4UtiF=0f948c1abc41bcbf73a8fc168bb6c67f=924A5010A3A12465=3znfPABCk9FcekcHUsdsPwYtJRka3xM8baFcXe4aYCJu=1693952844>
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> Watch The Video
> <https://legacywoodworking.lt.acemlnb.com/Prod/link-tracker?redirectUrl=aHR0cHMlM0ElMkYlMkZ5b3V0dS5iZSUyRlJXSjFIdERzY3pN=%7C%7C252137679%7C%7C=legacywoodworking.activehosted.com=qAV%2FjzakDal2SZvZpQbTyPYEJsLhHBi8Sfl%2BTHwl%2F56O0kg1sQ%3D%3D%3Ai3k3QnlXAvUO98De%2FSj%2FMOSS6fu4UtiF=0f948c1abc41bcbf73a8fc168bb6c67f=924A5010A3A12465=3znfPABCk9FcekcHUsdsPwYtJRka3xM8baFcXe4aYCJu=1693952844>
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> [image: Magnate Rope Molding Router Bits]
>
> Magnate manufactures a series of rope molding router bits for the Legacy
> CNC.  The bits are made with high grade micrograin carbide.  You can
> purchase the bits directly from Magnate at www.magnate.net
> <https://legacywoodworking.lt.acemlnb.com/Prod/link-tracker?redirectUrl=aHR0cHMlM0ElMkYlMkZ3d3cubWFnbmF0ZS5uZXQlMkZTZWFyY2hSZXN1bHRzLmFzcCUzRkNhdCUzRDExNg%3D%3D=%7C%7C252137679%7C%7C=legacywoodworking.activehosted.com=qAV%2FjzakDal2SZvZpQbTyPYEJsLhHBi8Sfl%2BTHwl%2F56O0kg1sQ%3D%3D%3Ai3k3QnlXAvUO98De%2FSj%2FMOSS6fu4UtiF=0f948c1abc41bcbf73a8fc168bb6c67f=924A5010A3A12466=GP93DKKgFVoM1KtkfLFdqj3ADG4Cyt8K2a8XvqqAqXis=1693952844>
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>
>
>
> Call 801491 0010 or visit out website to learn more about CNC woodworking
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Re: Fwd: Tim, Making a Classic Barley Twist on a Legacy CNC

[M.W.Foscue]

Tim.
Thank you, 
VERY GOOD info.!
Cheers!
Mac
-Original Message-
From: 
Sent: Sep 5, 2023 10:06 PM
To: LOM Group 
Subject: Fwd: Tim, Making a Classic Barley Twist on a Legacy CNC

Here's another one guys. Kind Regards, 
Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork  Specialty
Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330
 
320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell





-- Forwarded message -
From: Legacy Woodworking Machinery mailto:j...@legacywoodworking.com)>
Date: Tue, Sep 5, 2023 at 5:27 PM
Subject: Tim, Making a Classic Barley Twist on a Legacy CNC
To: Tim Ziegler mailto:timjzieg...@gmail.com)>


 Hi Tim,

We're going to show the barley twist router bit in action. This video covers 
how to make classic barley twists using Legacy's CCAM software and Magnate's 
series of barley twist router bits.  Legacy developed both the router bit 
profiles and the software so you can easily go from a rough blank to a barley 
twist in minutes.
  
(https://legacywoodworking.lt.acemlnb.com/Prod/link-tracker?redirectUrl=aHR0cHMlM0ElMkYlMkZ5b3V0dS5iZSUyRlJXSjFIdERzY3pNa=%7C%7C252137679%7C%7Caccount=legacywoodworking.activehosted.comemail=qAV%2FjzakDal2SZvZpQbTyPYEJsLhHBi8Sfl%2BTHwl%2F56O0kg1sQ%3D%3D%3Ai3k3QnlXAvUO98De%2FSj%2FMOSS6fu4UtiFs=0f948c1abc41bcbf73a8fc168bb6c67fi=924A5010A3A12465sig=3znfPABCk9FcekcHUsdsPwYtJRka3xM8baFcXe4aYCJuiat=1693952844)
 Watch The Video 
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 Magnate manufactures a series of rope molding router bits for the Legacy CNC.  
The bits are made with high grade micrograin carbide.  You can purchase the 
bits directly from Magnate at www.magnate.net 
(https://legacywoodworking.lt.acemlnb.com/Prod/link-tracker?redirectUrl=aHR0cHMlM0ElMkYlMkZ3d3cubWFnbmF0ZS5uZXQlMkZTZWFyY2hSZXN1bHRzLmFzcCUzRkNhdCUzRDExNg%3D%3Da=%7C%7C252137679%7C%7Caccount=legacywoodworking.activehosted.comemail=qAV%2FjzakDal2SZvZpQbTyPYEJsLhHBi8Sfl%2BTHwl%2F56O0kg1sQ%3D%3D%3Ai3k3QnlXAvUO98De%2FSj%2FMOSS6fu4UtiFs=0f948c1abc41bcbf73a8fc168bb6c67fi=924A5010A3A12466sig=GP93DKKgFVoM1KtkfLFdqj3ADG4Cyt8K2a8XvqqAqXisiat=1693952844)
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  Call 801491 0010 or visit out website to learn more about CNC woodworking 
without limitations
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Fwd: Tim, Making a Classic Barley Twist on a Legacy CNC

[Tim Ziegler]

Here's another one guys.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


-- Forwarded message -
From: Legacy Woodworking Machinery 
Date: Tue, Sep 5, 2023 at 5:27 PM
Subject: Tim, Making a Classic Barley Twist on a Legacy CNC
To: Tim Ziegler 


Hi Tim,


We're going to show the barley twist router bit in action. This
video covers how to make classic barley twists using Legacy's CCAM software
and Magnate's series of barley twist router bits.  Legacy developed both
the router bit profiles and the software so you can easily go from a rough
blank to a barley twist in minutes.

Watch The Video

[image: Magnate Rope Molding Router Bits]

Magnate manufactures a series of rope molding router bits for the Legacy
CNC.  The bits are made with high grade micrograin carbide.  You can
purchase the bits directly from Magnate at www.magnate.net

www.magnate.net


Call 801491 0010 or visit out website to learn more about CNC woodworking
without limitations
www.lwmcnc.com

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Re: Fwd: Tim, Making a Diamond Rope Twist on a Legacy CNC

[Tim Ziegler]

Hey Mac,

exactly why I sent it out. This is the second one in the last couple weeks.
but mostly Crickets.
Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Sun, Sep 3, 2023 at 11:25 AM M.W.Foscue  wrote:

> Tim,
>
>
>
> Thanks.
>
> If I received it - it ma have been in SPAM folder.
>
> Thanks for the forward.  For folks not on Legacy's email list - this
> should be useful from the standpoint of the router bits used.
>
> These are the same bits we use in our manual/pre-CNC Mills.
>
>
>
> Cheers!
>
> Mac
> --
> --
>
> -Original Message-----
> From: 
> Sent: Sep 1, 2023 9:57 PM
> To: LOM Group 
> Subject: Fwd: Tim, Making a Diamond Rope Twist on a Legacy CNC
>
>
> I forward this to the group last week too and received no response. Are
> there any interested Lurkers
> or do most of you receive this already?
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> --
> --
> -- Forwarded message -
> From: Legacy Woodworking Machinery 
> Date: Fri, Sep 1, 2023 at 1:40 PM
> Subject: Tim, Making a Diamond Rope Twist on a Legacy CNC
> To: Tim Ziegler 
>
>
>
>
> Hi Tim,
>
>
> We're going to continue our rope molding router bit discussion by
> showing another video. This video covers how to make rope twists in both
> directions using Legacy's CCAM software and Magnate's series of rope
> molding router bits.  Legacy developed both the router bit profiles and the
> software so you can easily go from a rough blank to a rope twist in minutes.
>
>
> <https://legacywoodworking.lt.acemlnb.com/Prod/link-tracker?redirectUrl=aHR0cHMlM0ElMkYlMkZ5b3V0dS5iZSUyRnZzNTF0aU1FSHk0=%7C%7C252137679%7C%7C=legacywoodworking.activehosted.com=6jEiiyC9PItQIeJQI%2BeNFGtNHChwBAeeRfzMlTN2jTBLjjkatw%3D%3D%3AD8v4uwmA%2BZ9V3s6JwybCun3WxxilQjdT=0f948c1abc41bcbf73a8fc168bb6c67f=923A5003A3A12451=7qc3YmSrwVEtoAokLdm1j6QfjScdbZG8yPvd2oFbKgwc=1693593474>
>
> Watch The Video
> <https://legacywoodworking.lt.acemlnb.com/Prod/link-tracker?redirectUrl=aHR0cHMlM0ElMkYlMkZ5b3V0dS5iZSUyRnZzNTF0aU1FSHk0=%7C%7C252137679%7C%7C=legacywoodworking.activehosted.com=6jEiiyC9PItQIeJQI%2BeNFGtNHChwBAeeRfzMlTN2jTBLjjkatw%3D%3D%3AD8v4uwmA%2BZ9V3s6JwybCun3WxxilQjdT=0f948c1abc41bcbf73a8fc168bb6c67f=923A5003A3A12451=7qc3YmSrwVEtoAokLdm1j6QfjScdbZG8yPvd2oFbKgwc=1693593474>
>
> [image: Magnate Rope Molding Router Bits]
>
> Magnate manufactures a series of rope molding router bits for the Legacy
> CNC.  The bits are made with high grade micrograin carbide.  You can
> purchase the bits directly from Magnate at www.magnate.net
> <https://legacywoodworking.lt.acemlnb.com/Prod/link-tracker?redirectUrl=aHR0cHMlM0ElMkYlMkZ3d3cubWFnbmF0ZS5uZXQlMkZTZWFyY2hSZXN1bHRzLmFzcCUzRkNhdCUzRDEwNg%3D%3D=%7C%7C252137679%7C%7C=legacywoodworking.activehosted.com=6jEiiyC9PItQIeJQI%2BeNFGtNHChwBAeeRfzMlTN2jTBLjjkatw%3D%3D%3AD8v4uwmA%2BZ9V3s6JwybCun3WxxilQjdT=0f948c1abc41bcbf73a8fc168bb6c67f=923A5003A3A12439=ETFCdW1HuBzFE2S5DEQz65xQBhjdMNpcf3i5JZtv9neR=1693593474>
>
> www.magnate.net
> <https://legacywoodworking.lt.acemlnb.com/Prod/link-tracker?redirectUrl=aHR0cHMlM0ElMkYlMkZ3d3cubWFnbmF0ZS5uZXQlMkZTZWFyY2hSZXN1bHRzLmFzcCUzRkNhdCUzRDEwNg%3D%3D=%7C%7C252137679%7C%7C=legacywoodworking.activehosted.com=6jEiiyC9PItQIeJQI%2BeNFGtNHChwBAeeRfzMlTN2jTBLjjkatw%3D%3D%3AD8v4uwmA%2BZ9V3s6JwybCun3WxxilQjdT=0f948c1abc41bcbf73a8fc168bb6c67f=923A5003A3A12439=ETFCdW1HuBzFE2S5DEQz65xQBhjdMNpcf3i5JZtv9neR=1693593474>
>
>
>
> Call 801491 0010 or visit out website to learn more about CNC woodworking
> without limitations
> www.lwmcnc.com
> <https://legacywoodworking.lt.acemlnb.com/Prod/link-tracker?redirectUrl=aHR0cHMlM0ElMkYlMkZ3d3cubHdtY25jLmNvbQ%3D%3D=%7C%7C252137679%7C%7C=legacywoodworking.activehosted.com=6jEiiyC9PItQIeJQI%2BeNFGtNHChwBAeeRfzMlTN2jTBLjjkatw%3D%3D%3AD8v4uwmA%2BZ9V3s6JwybCun3WxxilQjdT=0f948c1abc41bcbf73a8fc168bb6c67f=923A5003A3A12440=CQV4DG1ZmcS5XkRjn8C2WGizgrYnvyXWTzYMxSm5rAq=1693593474>
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Re: Fwd: Tim, Making a Diamond Rope Twist on a Legacy CNC

[M.W.Foscue]

Tim,

Thanks.
If I received it - it ma have been in SPAM folder.
Thanks for the forward.  For folks not on Legacy's email list - this should be 
useful from the standpoint of the router bits used.
These are the same bits we use in our manual/pre-CNC Mills.

Cheers!
Mac
-Original Message-
From: 
Sent: Sep 1, 2023 9:57 PM
To: LOM Group 
Subject: Fwd: Tim, Making a Diamond Rope Twist on a Legacy CNC

I forward this to the group last week too and received no response. Are there 
any interested Lurkers or do most of you receive this already?
Kind Regards, 
Timothy J. Ziegler



-- Forwarded message -
From: Legacy Woodworking Machinery mailto:j...@legacywoodworking.com)>
Date: Fri, Sep 1, 2023 at 1:40 PM
Subject: Tim, Making a Diamond Rope Twist on a Legacy CNC
To: Tim Ziegler mailto:timjzieg...@gmail.com)>


 Hi Tim,

We're going to continue our rope molding router bit discussion by showing 
another video. This video covers how to make rope twists in both directions 
using Legacy's CCAM software and Magnate's series of rope molding router bits.  
Legacy developed both the router bit profiles and the software so you can 
easily go from a rough blank to a rope twist in minutes.
  
(https://legacywoodworking.lt.acemlnb.com/Prod/link-tracker?redirectUrl=aHR0cHMlM0ElMkYlMkZ5b3V0dS5iZSUyRnZzNTF0aU1FSHk0a=%7C%7C252137679%7C%7Caccount=legacywoodworking.activehosted.comemail=6jEiiyC9PItQIeJQI%2BeNFGtNHChwBAeeRfzMlTN2jTBLjjkatw%3D%3D%3AD8v4uwmA%2BZ9V3s6JwybCun3WxxilQjdTs=0f948c1abc41bcbf73a8fc168bb6c67fi=923A5003A3A12451sig=7qc3YmSrwVEtoAokLdm1j6QfjScdbZG8yPvd2oFbKgwciat=1693593474)
 Watch The Video 
(https://legacywoodworking.lt.acemlnb.com/Prod/link-tracker?redirectUrl=aHR0cHMlM0ElMkYlMkZ5b3V0dS5iZSUyRnZzNTF0aU1FSHk0a=%7C%7C252137679%7C%7Caccount=legacywoodworking.activehosted.comemail=6jEiiyC9PItQIeJQI%2BeNFGtNHChwBAeeRfzMlTN2jTBLjjkatw%3D%3D%3AD8v4uwmA%2BZ9V3s6JwybCun3WxxilQjdTs=0f948c1abc41bcbf73a8fc168bb6c67fi=923A5003A3A12451sig=7qc3YmSrwVEtoAokLdm1j6QfjScdbZG8yPvd2oFbKgwciat=1693593474)
 Magnate manufactures a series of rope molding router bits for the Legacy CNC.  
The bits are made with high grade micrograin carbide.  You can purchase the 
bits directly from Magnate at www.magnate.net 
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Fwd: Tim, Making a Diamond Rope Twist on a Legacy CNC

[Tim Ziegler]

I forward this to the group last week too and received no response. Are
there any interested Lurkers
or do most of you receive this already?

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

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From: Legacy Woodworking Machinery 
Date: Fri, Sep 1, 2023 at 1:40 PM
Subject: Tim, Making a Diamond Rope Twist on a Legacy CNC
To: Tim Ziegler 


Hi Tim,


We're going to continue our rope molding router bit discussion by
showing another video. This video covers how to make rope twists in both
directions using Legacy's CCAM software and Magnate's series of rope
molding router bits.  Legacy developed both the router bit profiles and the
software so you can easily go from a rough blank to a rope twist in minutes.

Watch The Video

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Magnate manufactures a series of rope molding router bits for the Legacy
CNC.  The bits are made with high grade micrograin carbide.  You can
purchase the bits directly from Magnate at www.magnate.net

www.magnate.net


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Fwd: Tim, See the Rope Molding Cutter in action on a Legacy CNC

[Tim Ziegler]

Here we go all.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
14171 160th Ave.
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From: Legacy Woodworking Machinery 
Date: Tue, Aug 29, 2023 at 7:00 PM
Subject: Tim, See the Rope Molding Cutter in action on a Legacy CNC
To: Tim Ziegler 


Hi Tim,


Have you ever wondered how to create a rope twist without modeling and
carving the part.  Legacy's CCAM software and Magnate's series of rope
molding router bits enable you to machine rope twist on parts ranging in
size for a pen to a column.  Legacy developed both the router bit profiles
and the software so you can easily go from a rough blank to a rope twist in
minutes.

Watch The Video

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Magnate manufactures a series of rope molding router bits for the Legacy
CNC.  The bits are made with high grade micrograin carbide.  You can
purchase the bits directly from Magnate at www.magnate.net

www.magnate.net


Call 801491 0010 or visit out website to learn more about CNC woodworking
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Fwd: Free Shipping on Your Next Order

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French Rolling Pin blanks anyone
Free shipping to boot!
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14171 160th Ave.
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Fwd: Open Shop Saturday!! February 11, 2023

[Tim Ziegler]

Hey, any of you guys close to New York could take this show in?

Kind Regards,

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Subject: Open Shop Saturday!! February 11, 2023
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Join Us For a Day in the Shop on Saturday, February 11, 2023

Greetings!


Open Shop Saturday!


Join Us...


Saturday, February 11, 2023 at the Plumier shop for a day of ornamental
turning and our first Open Shop of the year. Open Shop Saturdays have been
well received, and we've seen many new relationships form as well as the
deepening of those previously begun. It's a great opportunity to introduce
yourself to what the Plumier Foundation has to offer by not only seeing the
machines in action but also actually trying your hand at them. You'll meet
like minded people as well.



Frank Dorion and Kelsey Watson Commiserating at one of our previous
meetings.




We’ll have two MADE Lathes set up and running as well as others.

We've hosted many of these Open Shops and are pleased that may of you are
returning over and over, even from great distances; and we hope you do
again.





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Below: The results of some impromptu Engine Turning from one of our
previous meetings.

If you enjoy seeing ornamental turning online and have been wanting to see
it in action or try it yourself, make your way over to Plumier on Saturday,
February 11, to see what's going on. No special skills required. Just come
by and join us for a day of great conversation with kindred spirits and
hands-on turning using the Plumier Foundation's ornamental turning
masterpieces of the Victorian era and their modern equivalents.





The G. Plant and Son straight line engine we received as part of the Peter
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We'll get started about 9 a.m. and be done when we get tired (last time it
was about 7:00 p.m.). Come for all of the day or just part of it. If your
day is busy, just stop by for a few minutes to see what's going on. You
don't need a ticket or to sign up and attendance is free.


There is free parking at the shop. We will issue you a parking pass when
you get here.


As we did with the last Open Shops we'll eat around a work bench or two.



We can't wait to see you. Please consider a donation to support our
organization.Donate Here

Your help will make us stronger and even more supportive of the ornamental
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Fwd:  Couple of Bunkys just started a Premiere: Legacy Ornamental Mill Making a rope twist cane #walkingstick

[Tim Ziegler]

Here you go guys eat it up.
New LOM owner having fun.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


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Subject:  Couple of Bunkys just started a Premiere: Legacy Ornamental
Mill Making a rope twist cane #walkingstick
To: Tim Ziegler 


Live on YouTube: Couple of Bunkys - Legacy Ornamental Mill Making a rope
twist cane #walkingstick!
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Re: Fwd: .50 set

[Tim Ziegler]

yeah you should check that out Bill, being your the only one with at X 4
gear set it seems.

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Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
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On Wed, Jan 11, 2023 at 4:30 PM  wrote:

> Yes mac you would hardly ever use them it would be only be if you were
> trying to match an existing spiral I believe
>
> But it would be nice just to have a set .
>
> I think if you changed out the small gear bolted on the standard gear set
> to one double that dia
>
> It would convert the standard set to a .5 gear set something I been
> thinking about for a while I have several standard gear sets
>
> I have yet to see if that is true but I think it might
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *M.W.Foscue
> *Sent:* Thursday, 12 January 2023 8:51 AM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: Fwd: .50 set
>
>
>
> Very nice.  Thanks.
>
> Who made them - and how?
>
>
>
> Now for the "important" question:  Where do they fit in as far as
> usability - what do you make with them that you can't with the Standard or
> the .25 set?  Or are they like the 4X set - that folks own but only use
> once or twice - if at all<
>
>
>
> Thanks.
>
> Mac
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> -Original Message-
> From: 
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> Subject: Fwd: .50 set
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> Denson's .5 gear set
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>
> Kind Regards,
>
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> Timothy J. Ziegler
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> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
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>
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> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
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> Date: Wed, Jan 11, 2023 at 10:18 AM
> Subject: .50 set
> To: Tim Ziegler 
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RE: Fwd: .50 set

[bulkeley]

Yes mac you would hardly ever use them it would be only be if you were trying 
to match an existing spiral I believe

But it would be nice just to have a set .

I think if you changed out the small gear bolted on the standard gear set to 
one double that dia

It would convert the standard set to a .5 gear set something I been thinking 
about for a while I have several standard gear sets

I have yet to see if that is true but I think it might

 

Bill

 

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 On Behalf Of M.W.Foscue
Sent: Thursday, 12 January 2023 8:51 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Fwd: .50 set

 

Very nice.  Thanks.

Who made them - and how?

 

Now for the "important" question:  Where do they fit in as far as usability - 
what do you make with them that you can't with the Standard or the .25 set?  Or 
are they like the 4X set - that folks own but only use once or twice - if at 
all<

 

Thanks.

Mac

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Subject: Fwd: .50 set

 

Denson's .5 gear set  

 

 




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Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

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Re: Fwd: .50 set

[Tim Ziegler]

Legacy made them as I got mine with my WoodChuck,

Yeah maybe something that got replaced Curt, Mike or Bill can answer that
one.

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On Wed, Jan 11, 2023 at 3:51 PM M.W.Foscue  wrote:

> Very nice.  Thanks.
>
> Who made them - and how?
>
>
>
> Now for the "important" question:  Where do they fit in as far as
> usability - what do you make with them that you can't with the Standard or
> the .25 set?  Or are they like the 4X set - that folks own but only use
> once or twice - if at all<
>
>
>
> Thanks.
>
> Mac
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> -Original Message-
> From: 
> Sent: Jan 11, 2023 2:26 PM
> To: LOM Group 
> Subject: Fwd: .50 set
>
>
> Denson's .5 gear set
>
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
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Re: Fwd: .50 set

[M.W.Foscue]

Very nice.  Thanks.
Who made them - and how?

Now for the "important" question:  Where do they fit in as far as usability - 
what do you make with them that you can't with the Standard or the .25 set?  Or 
are they like the 4X set - that folks own but only use once or twice - if at 
all<

Thanks.
Mac
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Denson's .5 gear set  
 
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Fwd: FLASH SALE | Artisan Razor Kits and Accessories

[Tim Ziegler]

Here is some good idea's for bone turning Curt,
And its on sale
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Fwd: Introduction to Ornamental Turning in Two Weeks

[Tim Ziegler]

Just something to share.
Curt I know your big about this type of lathe.

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Fwd: Carbide quality, router bits, & brands - things to know

[Tim Ziegler]

Trend sale
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From: Tim Ziegler 
Date: Mon, Mar 7, 2022 at 5:59 AM
Subject: Re: Carbide quality, router bits, & brands - things to know
To: LOM Group 


Thanks Bill nice contribution to this discussion.
I know you clean your bits but if anyone out there does not, that is one
thing you can do to
aid in keeping your bits sharp longer.

Also Hardware Distributors has the Trend Sharpening sticks, cards, cleaners
etc... on sale this month.
I will attempt to download that ad.

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Timothy J. Ziegler
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On Mon, Mar 7, 2022 at 2:18 AM  wrote:

> Ok so mico grain carbide is harder
> http://carbide.mmc.co.jp/permanent/courses/91/micro-grain-cemented-carbide.html#:~:text=Properties,as%20micro%2Dgrain%20cemented%20carbides
> .
>
>
>
> Read this above mac  and yes also finer grain sharpens sharper which cuts
> better leaving a better finish see below
>
>
>
>  Micro-Grain Carbide is *characterized by an extremely small grain size
> (less than 1μm)*. This achieves high toughness with a perfect hardness at
> the same time. This produces extremely sharp cutting edges.
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *M.W.Foscue
> *Sent:* Monday, 7 March 2022 5:25 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: Carbide quality, router bits, & brands - things to know
>
>
>
> Ok - please "educate" me/us.  What's "micro grain"got to do with this?
>
> Please explain what it is - and its positive & negative attributes.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Mac
> --
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: 
> Sent: Mar 6, 2022 9:30 PM
> To: LOM Group 
> Subject: Re: Carbide quality, router bits, & brands - things to know
>
>
>
> I recall asking him a lot of questions when I started buying them and have
> bought several since.
>
> they do seem to be a pretty good quality but as mentioned not sure they
> are C2 or higher.
>
> I do think they could be a micro grain. As I mentioned they are good.
>
> We certainly don't want Magnate thinking we don't like them.
>
> So the catolog states both Micro grain and just carbide tipped so both for
> sure.
>
> Solids and spirals for sure said Micro and our profiles just say Carbide.
>
> If I find out more I'll add it.
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
> On Sun, Mar 6, 2022 at 7:04 PM M.W.Foscue  wrote:
>
> Bill,
>
>
>
> Thank you.
>
> Has anyone researched the carbide used in the Magnate bit lineup?
>
> Anybody have had any "testing" done to determine the "C-level" of it.
>
> Or lastly - anyone ever talk with a *knowledgeable person* at Magnate -
> and asked them about their carbide?  They may not know; or they may look on
> that info as a "trade secret" and not tell you.
>
> If that's the case, I'll bet it will be because the quality is not high.
>
> If I were using "high quality" materials, I'd be letting everyone know
> that I do!!
>
>
>
> I agree Bill - there are times that you can get away with using a high
> speed steel or lower quality carbide bit.  Then there are times where, if
> possible, using the best quality available is the route to take.
>
>
>
> Mac
> --
> --
>
> -Original Message-
> From: 
> Sent: Mar 6, 2022 5:33 PM
> To: 
> Subject: RE: Carbide quality, router bits, & brands - things to know
>
>
>
> I find the as a general rule the more expensive a carbide router bit the
> better the quality carbide the router bit has and the less you have to
> sharpen them but that’s not to say the cheap bits are useless.
>
> It depends on how much work you do with the bit, now the planeing bit is
> your legacy work horse the bit your always using so a good better quality
> bit here I mostly use a carbide insert bit here to hog off all the wood and
> finish with the legacy planeing bit if I need a nice finish
>
> The insert router bit is good you can choose cheap or expensive inserts I
> have both but mainly use the cheap because I can buy a box of 10 for the
> price of 1 better quality insert and they last a reasonable time even more
> with resharpening.
>
> Now magnate are a good router bit with quite good carbide in the bits and
> have the specialised shapes we mostly need on the legacy for spirals and
> such and are pretty much the only company out there that do. But for some
> jobs I will use cheap Chinese lower quality carbide  even high speed steel
> bits you just have to sharpen after every couple of jobs I know Curt
> favours high speed steel bits and the work fine for him. That’s my take on
> 

Fwd: New Project Kits for Your Kitchen

[Tim Ziegler]

Maybe these would look great with a Bone handle?
Well not the rolling pins lol.
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Fwd: 2022 Woodturners Worldwide Online Symposium

[Tim Ziegler]

Wow check this out
This would be exciting to watch at least for me.
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Fwd: Newest OneTIME Tool: The Adjustable Setup Block

[Tim Ziegler]

look at WoodPecker's newest one time tool??

Note the mill work on the sides of the aluminum!   we were just discussing
this
a few weeks ago. Looks pretty cool on a actual tool wow.


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Fwd: 60% OFF Exotic & Domestic Pen Blank Packs

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Any Pen turners out there that need to stalk up?
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Fwd: Fraud Alert: Fake Woodpeckers Web Pages

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New topic and many of you may not get this so please pass it on to others
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Fwd: Ultra-Shear Pen Mill is On Sale Now.

[Tim Ziegler]

anyone using this. pretty impressive
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Trimming your Pen Blanks has never been this easy.


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that has to be glued into the blank. Then the blank needs to be trimmed
perpendicular to and perfectly flush with both ends of the insert tube. The
trimming process is fundamentally important to get great results, but until
now, the tools available to pen turners for that job have left a lot to be
desired. *Ultra-Shear by Woodpeckers solved the challenge by introducing
the Ultra-Shear Pen Mill-Ci, a pen mill that effortlessly cuts every
material pen turners use…and through mountains of pen blanks.*



*The Ultra-Shear Pen Mill-Ci uses razor-sharp nano-grain carbide inserts*
mounted in a precision-machined milling head. These are exactly the same
inserts used on our Ultra-Shear Pen Size Square turning tools. The special
long-life carbide edges will shave through exotic hardwoods, acrylics,
polymers, stabilized woods, cast hybrids and even non-ferrous metals with
flawless results.  When the edges finally get dull, fresh cutting edges are
as simple as turning the insert.


*The Ultra-Shear Pilot-Reamers mate with the Pen Mill-Ci* milling head,
guiding it perpendicular to the pen blank’s brass insert tube. We offer the
12 most popular sizes covering virtually every pen kit on the market. In
addition to keeping the milling head perpendicular, the noses of the
Pilot-Reamers are fluted to carefully cut away any glue residue or brass
burrs inside the insert tube.


*The Ultra-Shear Pen Mill is On Sale Now! * No matter if you want the
Deluxe 13-Piece Set, 5-Piece Basic Set or if you just want to build your
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Fwd: Marking / "Signing" your work - for posterity

[Tom Dotta]

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Subject: Re: Marking / "Signing" your work - for posterity
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Happy Thanksgiving Guys & Gals
i mostly just do hobby & Gifts and find that signing with a contrasting
color metallic gel pen under the clear finish works for me.
Mostly I use either Gold or Silver and use first & middle names in script.
Thomas Edwin Dotta

On Thu, Nov 26, 2020 at 6:49 PM Tim Ziegler  wrote:

> This is the logo I'm currently using when I run them on the Laser,
> My electric branding Iron is similar but less information.
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
> On Thu, Nov 26, 2020 at 5:51 PM Ken Fisher  wrote:
>
>> Hello everyone. I don’t post much on any blogs I am subscribed to but
>> read them quite often. Thought I
>> Would chime in on signing my work. I actually sign in different ways. At
>> first I didn’t sign anything but was encouraged to do so by several of the
>> people that received my work. Didn’t seem to matter if it was a gift or
>> actually purchased. I do now ask before signing a commissioned piece. I
>> have yet to have someone say no but out of respect I still ask. Now on to
>> signing. On items like furniture or cutting boards I have an electric
>> branding iron that I bought from Woodcraft several years ago. For my work
>> that I do on my lathe or LOM I typically sign with a pen from my wood
>> burning set.
>>
>> Ken
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Nov 26, 2020, at 10:44 AM, M.W.Foscue  wrote:
>>
>> 
>> Happy Thanksgiving to all.
>>
>> Curtis mentioned he has two "irons" he uses to mark/"sign" his work.  And
>> that he embeds a penny in the work - using one from the current year.
>> I feel it is very worthwhile and important to mark / "sign" all projects
>> you make.  You may think "Oh, it's just a kid's footstool" or "it's just a
>> little toy truck".
>> But - that "toy truck" may end up a keepsake by whomever you gave it to -
>> even if you gave it to the Salvation Army's toy drive.  Wouldn't it be nice
>> for them to have that "reminder" of who made it and when?
>>
>> Now - for the Discussion part - and hopefully we will get a lot of input.
>> 1.  Do you mark /"sign" your work?
>> 2.  If yes, how do you mark /"sign" your work?
>> 3.  Do you have a "branding iron"?
>> 4.  If yes - Please tell us about it - Like:
>>  A.  Electric?  or heat it with a flame/torch?
>>  B.  Commercially made?  Or home made?
>>  C.  Pros & Cons of the one you have?
>>  D.  If commercially made, would you buy an identical as a
>> replacement - or go with another model or brand?
>>
>> Anything else that you feel you either want to share with us about your
>> branding iron.
>> or
>> Any questions you have about all of the above questions and discussion.
>>
>> Thank you in advance for your thoughts, questions, and input.
>> I hope the info discussed in this will be useful to many of us.
>> Blessings!
>> Mac
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Fwd: "Jeff Fleisher" would like your support for Charles Neil

[MWF]

Hello LOM Group members,I received the below a couple hours ago - regarding Charles Neil.For those of us that either knew him, took a class or two from him, or just appreciated/enjoyed his videos - I am forwarding this as an FYI.He obviously went "downhill" (health-wise) pretty fast - as you will read.I know he will be missed by many - especially his family and closest friends.MacFrom: "Jeff Fleisher" Date: December 24, 2019 at 10:36:43 AM ESTTo: Jeffrey Subject: "Jeff Fleisher" would like your support for Charles NeilReply-To: "Jeff Fleisher" 



Hi,
On December 21st, Charles Neil passed away after a long illness. Charles had been battling an infection and Sepsis for over eight months. As you may have seen on his weekly show, Charles lost over 100 pounds since last May. About four weeks ago cancer was discovered and he took a turn for the worse. He always had a very positive attitude which is why he kept in touch with many friends right up till the time he passed away. Much of the last eight months were spent visiting many doctors and specialists and numerous long stays in the hospital. The family now needs your support to help offset his medical expenses.     Charles was a gifted woodworker and exceptional wood finisher. He is best known for his stunning tiger maple furniture pieces and his love for teaching other woodworkers. He would always be going up into Pennsylvania and down to the Carolina's searching for that exceptional piece of wood. Charles was one of the first woodworkers to take advantage of Youtube and publishing DVDs. His many Youtube and Woodcraft videos led him into creating a weekly woodworking show that was videoed, editing and hosted all in-house. There are now over 500 shows created and posted online.     Charles was an inspiration to many, many woodworkers. He loved to teach whether it was via his videos, the classes he hosted in his shop or just by inviting people over to work on a project. There were always people 'dropping in' because they were in the area or made a little side trip to meet Charles in person. No matter the time of day or if visitors showed up unannounced he loved to chat about woodworking and made you feel welcome and at home in his shop.     As the sole proprietor of a single person shop an illness like this is devastating to the family's finances. Charles's wife Linda and the family would like your support to help offset the medical expenses that have accumulated over the past eight months. You can help by making a donation.Thank You!https://www.gofundme.com/f/charles-neil039s-medical-expenses?utm_source=customer_medium=email_campaign=p_cf+share-flow-1Your support would mean a lot to me.  He was a wonderful mentor and friend.  The woodworking community will miss him very much.  - Jeff Fleisher---Jeff's personal woodworking website:www.jeffswooddesigns.comHandtools at Shenandoah Tool Works:www.shenandoahtoolworks.comJeff's photography:www.shenandoahvalleyphotography.comModel Railroad Blog:
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Fwd: New Product Alert: Woodpeckers Board Mill

[MWF]

Hello LOM Group Members,It has been a bit quiet on "the Board" these past several days - so I thought I'd forward this email I received out for everyone to see & enjoy.I had already got it in my mind to take my Mill partly apart and construct a "Slab Mill" with the Y-Axis gantry and two pieces of the X-Axis rail.  Looks like Woodpeckers folks had a very similar idea.  Note that their Router Sled rides on TOP of the longitudinal rails - with those rails positioned with a corner "edge" up.  Interesting rig.  Has anyone signed up to buy one?By the way, I am still waiting to hear from anyone that has communicated with or visited the owner of the HUGE Mill in Gardena, California.  That Mill has been on eBay for at least 6 months!Work SAFE!MacFrom: Woodpeckers Date: September 17, 2019 at 04:00:00 EDTTo:Subject: New Product Alert: Woodpeckers Board MillReply-To: Woodpeckers 




















Flatten the face and joint the edge of your wide boards without a jointer.










If you don’t have the space or the budget for a $10,000, one-ton jointer in your shop (and, frankly, who does?), but you still want flat boards up to 16" wide, Woodpeckers new Board Mill is for you. Establishing that first flat face and straight, square edge can be a challenge on wider boards. How do you flatten a 12- or 15-inch wide board when you have a 6- or 8-inch jointer? Even within the capacity of your jointer, wide boards can be difficult to handle, particularly when it’s 1-1/2" thick white oak, rock maple or other gnarly hardwood.  Woodpeckers has taken a different approach to milling the first face and edge. Instead of wrestling your board across a jointer (that you probably don’t have), keep the board stationary and move the cutter.  





 












Our new Board Mill locks down that heavy, awkward board and puts your router in motion, following a defined plane to create flat faces and square edges accurately and safely. Your router will cut away warp, twist, bow and cupping on the face of your board.











Once the face is flat, lock the lateral travel of the router and cut the edge of the board square to the just-milled face. Now your thickness planer has a true reference to follow and you have a straight, square edge to ride along your table saw rip fence.











The Board Mill is optimized for stock from 3/4" to 1-3/4" in thickness. The cross-rail assembly rides directly on the long rails for stock up to 1-1/16". For stock between 1-1/16" and 1-3/4" just insert the riser blocks…no screws, nuts or bolts needed. The base model will handle stock up to 16" wide and 53-3/4" long. There are also units with extended length capacities of 77-3/4", 101-3/4" and 125-3/4".











Facing a board can sometimes mean removing a lot of material, so we built dust collection in as a standard feature. The dual-point pick-up collects chips equally well on either push cuts or pull cuts. The special Y-connector fits 2-1/2" dust hose on the outside, or slip a standard 2-1/4" shop vacuum hose-end inside.











The Board Mill is compatible with most any router, fixed base or plunge. While it works well with larger routers, we find it well suited to 1-3/4 HP models, such as the variable speed Porter-Cable 6902VS shown in the photos. We recommend the Amana RC-2250 replaceable insert spoilboard bit for machining faces and a 1/2" down-cut spiral straight bit for jointing edges. We also have larger spoilboard bits if you’re using a 3+HP router.


Already have Woodpeckers Slab Flattening Mill? The Conversion Kit includes the shorter-framed carriage, short cross rails and carriage stops you need to face and edge thinner stock. You’ll use the long rails that came with your Slab Flattening Mill. Just by switching cross rails and carriages you can surface thick, live edge slabs or straighten and square normal thickness stock.











Like all Woodpeckers tools, the Board Mill is precisely machined and carefully inspected in our Strongsville, Ohio factory (just south of Cleveland). For a limited time, we’re offering special savings on pre-orders. Delivery is scheduled for February 2020.












 






 






   

Re: Fwd:

['Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills]

 Looks like you guys are having a lot of fun!
Just got home from prospecting with mike last week.Found lots of small gold.  I 
still have a lot of work to do before I can let you know how much we got.
C.A.G. 
On Thursday, August 8, 2019, 04:34:23 PM EDT, Tim Ziegler 
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Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & Specialty14171 160th Ave.Foreston MN 56330
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Fwd: Re: Legacy parts and accessories for sale

[Tim Krause]

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Subject:Re: Legacy parts and accessories for sale
Date:   Wed, 15 May 2019 09:10:23 -0700
From:   Tim Krause 
To: Bill Bulkeley 



Vertical adjustable vise.

On 5/14/2019 2:31 PM, Bill Bulkeley wrote:


I think they are parts off one of the models of vertical vices I had 
one before my house fire it was adjustable similar  to the revos front 
rails


Bill

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*Sent:* Wednesday, 15 May 2019 6:29 AM
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*Subject:* Re: Legacy parts and accessories for sale

lost on these... anyone have an idea as to what these are?... fairly 
sure they are a Legacy item of some sort... two pieces... left and a 
right... thanks... Joe


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Fwd: Joining

[CURTIS GEORGE]

I'm Mike and have been a member for a while now without posting. The reason I 
joined is to get some help with my 900. I purchased it about 8 years ago ( with 
ALL the fixtures and attachments and a router) and have never been able to get 
it to work correctly. Over the years I have tried projects but the unit just 
never lived up to expectations. The first thing to note is that when I received 
my unit the carriage was assembled backwards. After dealing with customer 
service and emailing pictures they confirmed this and  after reversing it I was 
able to assemble it in accordance with the instruction. Since that time I have 
never been able to get the gears to align properly and backlash all over the 
unit is significant. The gear alignment problem was mentioned to customer 
service but they advised as long as they were turning each other this was 
normal.  When the gears are turning they make a grinding noise. I have also 
noted that the V shaped gears engagement unit rides back and forth on the 
head-stock spindle and lead-screw spindle. .  This travel is in the range of 
3/4 of an inch and it is what allows the gears to become misaligned. I have 
disassemble and reassembled the head gears several times and still can not get 
it right. I have been able to take the play out of the lead-screw spindle side 
by moving the upper guide rail to jam into the V unit. Anyone have any 
suggestions on how to fix this or what the check. 


         



From: CURTIS GEORGE  
Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2017 1:28 PM 
To: deputytay...@hotmail.com; Legacy-Ornamental-Mills 
Subject: Re: Joining 
  
Hello Mike 
My name is Curtis. 

What kind of problems are you running into? 
Our group has over 400 members now. I am sure someone out there has run into 
the same type of problems you are finding. 
Let us know what is going on, and Perhaps we can fix your problems? 

C.A.G. 

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Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2017 8:55:21 AM 
Subject: Joining 

Greetings 

 I may already be a member of this group. I believe I joined a couple years ago 
but then left the country for some time. Can you advise, is the group still 
active? Am I a member? (Michael Taylor deputytay...@hotmail.com). I am 
desperately in need of help with my 900. I have had the unit for about 10 years 
and it has never worked right. 

Thanks Mike   


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Fwd: Ornamental bowl twist (two sides to the same project.)

[CURTIS GEORGE]

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From: "CURTIS GEORGE"  
To: "Bill Bulkeley"  
Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2017 12:45:48 AM 
Subject: Re: Ornamental bowl twist (two sides to the same project.) 

HI Bill 
I have used plywood for many turnings, I've tried O.S.B. (chip board) with some 
Good success. 
I've seen wood turners find rotted wood, and then stabilize it with some kind 
of risen.(?) I've seen corn cob pipes, and pens made out of cat-tail ( a water 
grown weed) I know a man who uses old bowling balls to make pens for turning. 
and another who uses paint over spray,from a factory spray booth. to make 
pendents and small ornaments. and lets not forget our fire wood pile, there may 
be a treasure in there as well. 

I'm sure with a little luck and perhaps just a good eye, You Never know? 
anything is possible. 
I for one have been wanting to look into bone, horn and antler... as used as 
wood tuning idioms for projects. as a matter of fact, I just saw a knife handle 
made out of turned leather. 
Perhaps your bottles and caps idea could be made to work as well? Who knows 
perhaps plastic and wheat grass could be made to turn??? 

I have seen in the Legacy videos where they use a product called Float Stone. 
and Corrion, as well as Plexiglas was also used in a video. 
So you can see ANYTHING is possible. when there is a will to do something. 
Keep an open eye. 
talk to you more latter. 
Have a good night. 

C.A.G. 

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From: "Bill Bulkeley"  
To: curtgeo...@wowway.com 
Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2017 9:07:47 PM 
Subject: RE: Ornamental bowl twist (two sides to the same project.) 



Laminated pallet wood, old broken pallets are usually free here, its the 
disassembling milling and glueing so labour intensive im not fond of. I guess 
if there was anything better we would be using it instead of wood. Melting 
plastic bottles and caps but its too flexible to mill properly in lengths so i 
don’t know of anything yet 

Bill 




From: CURTIS GEORGE [mailto:curtgeo...@wowway.com] 
Sent: Thursday, 22 June 2017 9:41 AM 
To: Bill Bulkeley 
Subject: Re: Ornamental bowl twist (two sides to the same project.) 





Thank you. 


Bye the way those pods are not cheap now. I was thinking $7.00 each, but the 
price is closer to $17.00 and up. 





I will be looking for a new material to play with. 





C.A.G. 



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To: curtgeo...@wowway.com 
Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2017 6:18:30 PM 
Subject: RE: Ornamental bowl twist (two sides to the same project.) 





Again great the pod really does make a very interesting and different middle 




From: CURTIS GEORGE [mailto:curtgeo...@wowway.com] 
Sent: Thursday, 22 June 2017 2:00 AM 
To: Bulkeley, Bill; LATHAM, MAX 
Subject: Ornamental bowl twist (two sides to the same project.) 





there are two sides to this. 






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Fwd: going square/with a twist.

[CURTIS GEORGE]

Good morning Richard 
Those indexing disks will work with any type of cut, (cutting form the top, or 
side. roping, fluting...) The beauty is simplicity . 

Now if I could get Joe (and some others in our group.) to start playing around 
with this concept, I know we would all get to see, not only its full potential 
of the disks, but the Art of how it could be done, ( I have to admit, I can get 
things to work, but Joe makes things look better.) ;-) 

Hey guys! lets see if we can get something going? I have two ideas here. One 
the Pods, and the other the indexing disks. 
I would like the challenge you all to take a closer look, 
Try making some indexing plates, and use them, and or How many ways can you use 
these Pods? Even on the net, bowls and pens are mainly the only idioms being 
made with this product. can we start something here that no one has done 
before? how about glue ups, hollow turnings, do something different. The router 
cut this pod pretty nicely, just as long as you take light cuts. 
I want to go out and find out the how much these pods cost today, If they are 
cheap enough, I plan to play around with them more in the future, and see what 
I can do. 
If not... I plan to look for some kind of material s that are out of the 
ordinary that we can get to play with... What do you think? 
Who is up for the challenge? Lets see what you all can make... if We,, Think 
outside the box! ;-) 

C.A.G. 

- Original Message -

From: "Richard Ellis"  
To: "Legacy Ornamental Mills"  
Cc: curtgeo...@wowway.com 
Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2017 3:42:33 AM 
Subject: Re: going square/with a twist. 

Curtis 
I thought it very good, I do like experimental work, and for some reason I get 
sidetracked and did not comment on the POD. when you first posted the pic. 
Sorry!! 
When I get the chance to get to the workshop I will try that technique, if I 
can get the depth of side cutting with my extensions 
Cheers 
Richard 


On Wednesday, June 21, 2017 at 5:30:20 AM UTC+1, Curtis wrote: 


Thank you. 

I was starting to think now one was interested. 

If the truth be known, there are a number of different way to do almost 
anything. 
In my/this case what saved my bacon was the indexing disks, 

There is no math involved, I knew that I wanted 4 sides for this Banksia pod. 
all that I needed to do was add the shape onto my indexing plate, and then make 
a pointer to make sure I could line up the disk with the gearing. 
After my first cut, I returned the carriage to the starting point, and then 
with the carriage ,not hooked up the acme screw, I turned the gears until the 
next edge of the disk lined up with my pointer. form that point all I needed to 
do was re-engage the acme screw and make my second cut... it was so easy to do, 
I wanted everyone to know how it was done. 

With the method of cutting, "Well" that is in the books, There is nothing new 
there. (It may be Neat. But, Legacy did it before me and recorded it in there 
logs.) But With these disks, this is a new/er concept. (that few people know 
about.) They are so easy, to make or buy, and So Very easy to use. I just had 
to share it with everyone. 

I am going to play-around with this concept more in the future. 
Please let me know what you think? 
Thanks again. 
talk to you all more latter. 

C.A.G. 


From: "Ccm Ccm" < ccmde...@gmail.com > 
To: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2017 9:39:09 PM 
Subject: Re: going square/with a twist. 

curt nice ribbon twist 

On Sat, Jun 17, 2017 at 7:59 PM, CURTIS GEORGE < curtg...@wowway.com > wrote: 



Hello all. 
Another play day, 
I may not have spelled the name correctly in the photo nam e, Banksia pod is 
the correct spelling. 
As I understand its a seed pod (much like our pine cone, we have in the US) 
I got mine a number of years ago. 
So when I was cleaning my shop I found this one. since I have never worked with 
this, I figured why not try the Legacy? I am happy with my results. 

I used my indexing disks to get the correct spacing and number of starts, 
We have talked about these template before with the group. but for the newer 
members, these disks (square, triangle,hexagon ...) are a method the make sure 
you get the right number of starts every time with out using math. all you do 
is add the disk to the indexing plate, use a pointer, line up the edge of the 
template to the pointer, and start cutting. at the end of the cut, bring the 
carriage back to the starting position. run the gears until the next corner of 
the template aligns with the pointer. lock the carriage onto the acme screw, 
and then start the next cut. repeat until you have all the cuts made. (in this 
case I wanted 4 cuts to make a square.) 

Please let me know what you think? 

C.A.G. 



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Fwd: Woodchuck and Revo

[CURTIS GEORGE]

From: "CURTIS GEORGE"  
To: "Richard Ellis"  
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 8:34:53 AM 
Subject: Re: Woodchuck and Revo 

Richard I would skip the indexing pin altogether. and use Mikes gear indexing 
concept. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHgzEKnON-o=12s "If Life gives you a 
lemon, I say Make Lemonade. There is almost always more then one way to do 
anything... ;-) 

C.A.G. 

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From: "Richard Ellis"  
To: "Legacy Ornamental Mills"  
Cc: curtgeo...@wowway.com 
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 5:54:13 AM 
Subject: Re: Woodchuck and Revo 

Bill and other Revo owners. 
I know I said patience is a virtue, I am running out of it ,,, I have just been 
and tried to do a few flutes on each end of a cane and although my hands are 
not that big I find it near impossible to hold the indexing pin and at the same 
time count the index holes, when the router is close to the Headstock the view 
is blocked with the linkages even when I number them it is still difficult. to 
see. 
How do you do it? 
Thanks in anticipation 
Richard 

On Wednesday, May 17, 2017 at 9:46:10 AM UTC+1, Richard Ellis wrote: 


Bill & Curtis 
All in good time Patience is a virtue so they say. At present I am exploring 
thr Revo's possibilities and making lots of fire wood and sawdust 
Richard 

On Wednesday, May 17, 2017 at 3:17:25 AM UTC+1, Curtis wrote: 


I second that! I want to see some pictures as well. 
C.A.G. 


From: "Bill Bulkeley" < bulk...@mmnet.com.au > 
To: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 9:58:26 AM 
Subject: RE: Woodchuck and Revo 



Great if it looks good post a pic of the wave and let us know the settings and 
cutter always good for reference for us all with wave attachments 

Bill 






From: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com [mailto: 
legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com ] On Behalf Of Richard Ellis 
Sent: Tuesday, 16 May 2017 9:12 PM 
To: Legacy Ornamental Mills 
Subject: Re: Woodchuck and Revo 





Bill 


Where I was going wrong was too smaller gear on the leadscrew, Just changed it 
and a much better wave, Now all I have to do is put the blanks back on the 
Woodchuck and turn them to a smaller dia. Quite good having two mills saves 
cutter changing. 


Will then go back and change gears to see what waves I get without changing the 
reciprocater 


Richard 



On Monday, May 15, 2017 at 9:04:33 AM UTC+1, Richard Ellis wrote: 


Hi Everyone, 


Well, yesterday I needed quite a few blanks for testing out wave patterns on 
the Revo, using what limited cutters that I have. 


So went to the old Woodchuck using some rubbish pine wood, put a half inch 
spiral up-cut Milling cutter into the ER 20 collet extension . 


Set the limit switches, set the speed on the drive to the spindle. Don't trust 
the limit switches too much.!!!??? 


Two inch square blanks, two passes and a fairly clean cut surface. Nice not to 
crank handles all day-- just stand back and when near the end of the 
cuts, just make sure the switches work. 


Today I will use the Woodchuck again to prepare , size and taper the Dia.for 
the Revo for testing what cutters I have . 


I must think about limit switches and a drive for the spindle for the Revo. 
More expense !! 


What cutters are you folk using for Wave Patterns ? 


Richard 


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Re: Fwd: indexing hub modification

[MWF]

Hey Curtis,Based on what you said about your "better half" having a long list of chores that kept you busy over the weekend - you had better not ever retire or let her retire.  If she retires, you'd better keep working - or if you retire, you'd better pray she keeps working.  In cases of rriends of mine, where they both retired, the poor hubby never gets a break!  She ALWAYS has stuff for him to do. Hardly any time to hunt, fish, woodwork, etc. Mac-Original Message-
From: CURTIS GEORGE <curtgeo...@wowway.com>
Sent: Apr 23, 2017 8:53 PM
To: Legacy-Ornamental-Mills <legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Fwd: indexing hub modification

Hello EveryoneI thought today was going to be a play day. sadly I was wrong, my wife had my day all planed out, Yard work. removing the old shrubs in the front and re-working the hole front yard."Man" I am glad tomorrow is Monday,  I don't think I could handle another day like today again. at least at work I get two 15 min. breaks and an 1/2 hour for lunch for an 8 hour day. No such luck here! ;-(I know Expect the Greater Re Ward ...Any How , Now that the sun is down I can go out a play in the shop some.Which brings up the indexing hub modification.I got a milk container full of wood spindles out of the garbage last week. Its nothing special just  popular spindles, that the centers have already been drilled out. These spindles have a 1/4" hole on both ends, So what I did was to drill out a center of one of my indexing hubs and taped it for a 1/4"-20 screw.  The 1/4" screw fits the hole (centering the hub) and with just one or two screws I can have a spindle ready for ether my Legacy or lathe in min.'s.Sometimes the simple things are the best!Any how here are a few pix.Please let my know what you think?C.A.G.



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Re: Fwd: indexing hub modification

[Tim Krause]

FYI Curt, the hole in the index hubs are dimensionally close enough to just run 
the tap through and get a good fit for the 1/4-20.

-Tim

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On Apr 23, 2017, 5:53 PM, at 5:53 PM, CURTIS GEORGE  
wrote:
>
>
>Hello Everyone 
>I thought today was going to be a play day. sadly I was wrong, my wife
>had my day all planed out, Yard work. removing the old shrubs in the
>front and re-working the hole front yard. 
>
>"Man" I am glad tomorrow is Monday, I don't think I could handle
>another day like today again. at least at work I get two 15 min. breaks
>and an 1/2 hour for lunch for an 8 hour day. No such luck here! ;-( 
>I know Expect the Greater Re Ward ... 
>
>Any How , Now that the sun is down I can go out a play in the shop
>some. 
>
>Which brings up the indexing hub modification. 
>I got a milk container full of wood spindles out of the garbage last
>week. Its nothing special just popular spindles, that the centers have
>already been drilled out. 
>These spindles have a 1/4" hole on both ends, So what I did was to
>drill out a center of one of my indexing hubs and taped it for a
>1/4"-20 screw. The 1/4" screw fits the hole (centering the hub) and
>with just one or two screws I can have a spindle ready for ether my
>Legacy or lathe in min.'s. 
>Sometimes the simple things are the best! 
>
>Any how here are a few pix. 
>
>Please let my know what you think? 
>
>C.A.G. 
>
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Re: Fwd: indexing hub modification

[MWF]

Curtis,That's a great "find" you had.  Like you often say:  "Just get yourself some inexpensive/free wood and play with it - to develop you skills.You have shown us the you "practice what you preach".Now you have plenty of stock (free) that you can use to make some huge toothpicks with.Have fun - and improve your skills.Mac-Original Message-
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Sent: Apr 23, 2017 8:53 PM
To: Legacy-Ornamental-Mills <legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Fwd: indexing hub modification

Hello EveryoneI thought today was going to be a play day. sadly I was wrong, my wife had my day all planed out, Yard work. removing the old shrubs in the front and re-working the hole front yard."Man" I am glad tomorrow is Monday,  I don't think I could handle another day like today again. at least at work I get two 15 min. breaks and an 1/2 hour for lunch for an 8 hour day. No such luck here! ;-(I know Expect the Greater Re Ward ...Any How , Now that the sun is down I can go out a play in the shop some.Which brings up the indexing hub modification.I got a milk container full of wood spindles out of the garbage last week. Its nothing special just  popular spindles, that the centers have already been drilled out. These spindles have a 1/4" hole on both ends, So what I did was to drill out a center of one of my indexing hubs and taped it for a 1/4"-20 screw.  The 1/4" screw fits the hole (centering the hub) and with just one or two screws I can have a spindle ready for ether my Legacy or lathe in min.'s.Sometimes the simple things are the best!Any how here are a few pix.Please let my know what you think?C.A.G.






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Fwd: aluminum extrusions

[CURTIS GEORGE]

- Forwarded Message -

From: "CURTIS GEORGE"  
To: "Bawdsey 64"  
Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2017 5:09:51 PM 
Subject: Re: aluminum extrusions 

Roger I didn't hear any sarcasm THERE...? ;-P 

You know what, I would like to try? 
Is to add some linear bearings onto the extruded alum. rails. Or even better, 
Use what Legacy is making today, for there CNC units, only use the gears to run 
the unit instead of the electronics. ( I still have the itch to make a better 
mouse trap so to speak. I know that I could do it, if only Time and money.) 
;-) 
If I'm totally honest with you,( and all.) That's why I don't get down on 
Legacy more often, They have my gratitude for making me a better woodworker, 
There machines may not be prefect. (but nether are we, right?) But they did a 
pretty good job making a machine that works for way under what a production 
machine would cost ME TO BUY . 

I called Legacy a while back, and asked if??? they would sell me a set of 
rails/bearings and there EVO. head-stock. so I could put them onto my old 1000 
as an up-grade. I thought it would be a nice way to up-grade my machine, and 
still make them some money. I was told they/He didn't know? but he would get 
back to me. (which never happened.)(again customer service is still lacking 
...) 
Today the money just isn't there for me to look farther into this idea. But I 
do think This idea would work. I mean Legacy sold, X, amounts of old units over 
the years, if they offered an up-grade that was basically, part of what they 
normally make anyways, it could be a good way to bridge the gap between the old 
and new... And make some money for them. 

Its my day off, So I can dream, Reality hits when I have to go back to work. 
tomorrow, ;-) 

I hope you have a good day. 
talk to you and all more latter. 
C.A.G. 

- Forwarded Message -

From: "Bawdsey 64"  
To: "CURTIS GEORGE"  
Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2017 3:50:16 PM 
Subject: Re: aluminum extrusions 



Hi Curt 

I agree that not everything was perfect at Legacy. In fact the only person I 
know that is perfect is me. 




Now before you say anything I can justify this statement because I only have to 
quote my wife's often pronounce words​ " We can't all be perfect like you dear" 
. This proves the point but only because I ignore the sarcasm in her voice! 



​I agree the guys at 80/20 have excellent products that could be used instead 
of the Legacy custom extrusion and I have found similar products in the UK 
although I do have a few short lengths of Legacy extrusion for my own use. 

Cheers 

Roger 






From: CURTIS GEORGE 
Received: 21/01/2017 19:30:52 +00:00 
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
Hello Roger. 
I would rather say, Legacy found a new market, and leave it as that. There were 
also a lot of reasons why business fail. Legacy made a lot of mistakes... The 
lack of Customer support was one of them. That's why we made this group ... 

I still say that 80/20 would be a good replacement for the legacy rails. There 
would not be a lot of modulations needed to make this stuff work... 

C.A.G. 

- Forwarded Message -

From: "Bawdsey 64"  
To: "rob Stoddard" , "Mike Pung" 
 
Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2017 9:56:45 AM 
Subject: Re: aluminum extrusions 



Well I have not researched it because I have had direct from Andy Anderson that 
it was a custom extrusion. When Legacy were making lots of manual machines they 
were buying it in volume and then along came a recession and Legacy's volume of 
material dived and the price went sky high. Guess what happened next, along 
came CNC and Legacy moved out of manual machines and was the reason they 
survived. 




I hope that helps. 

Euro Roger ​ 



​ 




From: rob Stoddard 
Received: 21/01/2017 02:50:50 +00:00 
To: Legacy Ornamental Mills 
Has anyone ever researched and found who made the extruded aluminium rails for 
like the 900 mill? Just asking. 


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Fwd: Merry Christmas to everyone.

[CURTIS GEORGE]

"Well" Thank you. Bill 
The weather over here is also warm. 32 deg. F. (Yes, that is the temp that 
water freezes, and Believe me, it really feels worm con-paired to what we have 
for the last two weeks.) 

Again. Worm wishes to you and the hole group, over this holiday weekend. 

C.A.G. 


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Fwd: table for mill

[CURTIS GEORGE]

Part II 
C.A.G. 

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From: "Deborah Andrews"  
To: curtgeo...@wowway.com 
Sent: Monday, December 5, 2016 9:31:08 PM 
Subject: table for mill 



here is the first thing cut and tested , just practicing with a keyhole bit. 
This what really got me to looking for alternatives. one Clamp no tape , 
indexable and repetitive. 


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Fwd: 900 Mill for sale

[O2 PiArr]

Mine. I have had it for a couple of years, added missing parts and cleaned
it up. Never used. I have come to the realization that I'm just not going
to get to it, based on all the other irons I have in the fire. Located in
Simi Valley, CA.

http://ventura.craigslist.org/tls/5831309289.html

Steve

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Fwd: Old Cane

[CURTIS GEORGE]

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From: "CURTIS GEORGE"  
To: "Richard Ellis"  
Sent: Sunday, October 9, 2016 9:04:26 AM 
Subject: Re: Old Cane 

Hello Richard 
Both the Legacy and Wood chuck have there own ... (problems). 
I think of it this way, You have to treat them like a lady, Don't Ever take 
them for Granted. And like a lady, each-one has its own Quarks,(things that 
need to be taken care of all the time.) But once you know... They can do some 
Awesome things, and make you feel like the King of the Hill. ;-) 
Perhaps Mike would have an idea of how to help fix your rail problem? 
But I would think, if you believe the weight of your pattern board is the 
problem, then perhaps you could do something different? a lighter pattern board 
perhaps? 
Something more like a peg board (a lighter material. ) Or a different mounting 
or support for the pattern-board, could be made/ used? Perhaps an all thread 
rod that can support the board form the ground or lower rail could be made to 
take up the weight? Without seeing the problem, it all guess work. 

About your comments, being called away. Im one of 4 pipefitters/plumbers, at a 
Hospital, There is always something going on that you just cant plan for, 
Yesterday a man, with an electric wheel-chair ran into a toilet, breaking the 
mounting... Tomorrow is a holiday for me. but I need to be at work, to help 
with, some contractor's work that needs to be done,.. It never ends. 

I just got done reading a book that I think you would like, its called The 
100-Year-Old Man Who Climbed Out the Window ... Novel by Jonas Jonasson . 

It is a very cute book that give you a very different prospective on age,.. 
"Quote form the book. Allen said to him self, I have to be more careful now, 
You know I'm not 90 anymore..." ;-p 

I have to get ready for church now. 
I hope you have a good day. 
talk to you and all. latter. 
C.A.G. 

- Forwarded Message -

From: "Richard Ellis"  
To: "Legacy Ornamental Mills"  
Cc: curtgeo...@wowway.com 
Sent: Sunday, October 9, 2016 3:24:53 AM 
Subject: Re: Old Cane 

Hi Curt 
Now that is a good idea, 
I like the Jubilee clips. I have had to fit one to my leadscrew to keep the 
tiny grub screw in, at the end nearest to the headstock, the other end grub 
screws near the leadscrew motor came loose as well, so I have locktited them in 
with a non permanent type. 
The other problem I have to sort out is the fact that one of the top carriage 
rails is lower at the rear than the one at the front,. I think the 16 tpi 3/8 
inch threaded rod is not stiff enough the keep both rails level . The extra 
weight of the pattern board is the problem I think 
I am too old to get called any where , let alone work, my maker will call one 
day I suppose Be 82 soon 
Cheers 
Richard 

On Saturday, October 8, 2016 at 11:16:21 PM UTC+1, Curtis wrote: 


Hello Richard 
Just got home form work. (I got called in on my day off.) ;-( 
Any How here is my Cane handle adapter for my Legacy. Its pretty simple, its 
made for a 1" curved cane, Now this may not work for large diameter sticks, but 
the concept is easy enough to adapt to, find the center of what you are 
turning. and then mount it between centers, Ive seen people do pretty much the 
same things for spoons and other odd shaped turned idioms. Like these videos. 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5TF2h4bAys4 Making a jig for a spoon. 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QBugnYLPXdM turning a scoop. 
But one really nice thing about adding details on idoms with the Legacy, is the 
slow speed you are turning with. 
Please play with this idea, and Let us know how it turns out. ;-) 
Have a good day. 
C.A.G. 

From: "Richard Ellis" < rchrd@gmail.com > 
To: "Legacy Ornamental Mills" < legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com > 
Sent: Saturday, October 8, 2016 3:40:57 AM 
Subject: Re: Old Cane 

Thanks for the replies 
Bearing in mind how thin the cane is, how would you support it along its 
length. small rollers or just a U shape block of wood. The positioning of my 
large Triton router would be a pain,-- bad enough now on larger stuff, and then 
of course the limit switches. I do not think I have the patience to do a copy 
,it ,I think would take hours. 
I will have to think ways of mounting a Dremel onto the carriage it would be 
handy for intricate jobs such as this. 
Richard 

On Friday, October 7, 2016 at 11:58:29 PM UTC+1, aussiman wrote: 




I agree curt the different checkering is not a terribly hard thing to do and i 
think it could cut from a single larger piece of wood the handle end carved and 
the stick end milled and checked on the woodchuck 

Bill 




From: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com [mailto: 
legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com ] On Behalf Of CURTIS GEORGE 
Sent: Saturday, 8 October 2016 8:08 AM 
To: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Old Cane 





Richard you could make 

Fwd: Hey New Guys!

[CURTIS GEORGE]

Hello Richard. 
The rotary table needs not be complicated. depending on what you want to make, 
just a lazy sue son with a lock, and or an indexing plate. could work well for 
you in most cases. If I was going to spend the time to make a new turn table, I 
think I would try making a worm gear type of table. by using a piece of Alum. 
and free hobbing a thread onto the plate, 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J0o3W4_LRBw 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XIzlg_uObwQ Ive done a job in the past using 
this method, Its slow but works well. Perhaps this type of method could could 
work for your gear problem? 

C.A.G. 


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From: "rchrd ellis1"  
To: "Legacy Ornamental Mills"  
Cc: Legacy-Ornamental-Mills@googlegroups.com, curtgeo...@wowway.com 
Sent: Friday, September 2, 2016 4:01:52 AM 
Subject: Re: Hey New Guys! 

Hi Curtis, 
Funny you should mention a V8--- I did have ,for a very short while a 
U.S.made Jeep Honcho, I think it had a 3 speed auto box,very wide tires and was 
next to useless for driving through water and especially muddy water, that I 
frequently had to do. Forestry roads and tracks. 
The front tires hit the puddles and it came straight over the windshield, Could 
not see where I was going for a few seconds/minutes 
I sold it to someone in Virginia Water in the U.K. near London ( very apt ) 
Then I bought a V.W. Syncro pick-up and it was four wheel drive diff.locks 
front and rear, great truck and I kept it and well used it for 21 
years,no more dirty windscreens. 
My next job for the Woodchuck is to give it a Rotary Table, when I can think 
how to make it out of my plywood, the gears may be my problem !!!?? 
Regards 
Richard 

On Tuesday, August 30, 2016 at 10:38:48 PM UTC+1, Curtis wrote: 


WOW! I was only joking about a V-8 engine! Your 440 beats that any day of the 
week! 
Good job Richard! 
Keep up the good work. 
C.A.G. 


From: "rchrd ellis1" < rchrd@gmail.com > 
To: "Legacy Ornamental Mills" < legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com > 
Cc: curtg...@wowway.com 
Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2016 2:29:04 PM 
Subject: Re: Hey New Guys! 

Curtis 
The paint is " Two Pack" Ford radiant red, funny you should mention automobiles 
(old bangers ) The paint I got from my friend who was painting an old M.G. 
Sports car. He get some of the cars that he rebuilds from the U,S.A. 
Myself I would rather have a newer V.W. 
The Paint is very hard, but time will tell !!?? 
I enclose another pic of the spindle drive set up, 440Volt but driven by an 
inverter that converts it to single phase220 volt. 
I can control the speed from next to nothing right up to far too much for the 
Woodchuck. 
The caster wheels, each with a brake, are very handy for moving it around 
The drive pulley for the spindle is made from Birch Ply painted with aluminium 
paint.All the best 
Richard 

On Tuesday, August 30, 2016 at 2:21:39 PM UTC+1, Curtis wrote: 


Hello Richard. 
I like it ! What kind of paint did you use? My only concern is, if the paint 
will scratch or peal off, But she dose look Pretty! Remember to use lots of wax 
on the rails to keep them lubricated. 
I cant wait to see some projects coming off of this Newly restored Wood Chuck. 
What's Next? adding a V-8 engine , or having your gears chromed out ? ;-p 

I'm sorry, (I hope my comments are not mistaken here.) You see, I live right 
off of Woodward ave. the home of the Dream Cruse. (Motor city, Detroit MI. ) I 
see muscle cars, and all kinds of hot rod every day through out the summer 
months. I think , Your new Candy Apple red paint job, would make any, motor 
head go jealous. ;-) 

Good job Richard. 

C.A.G. 


From: "rchrd ellis1" < rchrd@gmail.com > 
To: "Legacy Ornamental Mills" < legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com > 
Cc: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2016 5:18:20 AM 
Subject: Re: Hey New Guys! 

Hi Tim 
How does my new paint job look??? 

On Monday, August 29, 2016 at 5:44:58 AM UTC+1, Tim wrote: 


Don't be shy, post a question! 
-Tim 






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Fwd: Hey New Guys!

[CURTIS GEORGE]

WOW! I was only joking about a V-8 engine! Your 440 beats that any day of the 
week! 
  
Good job Richard! 
Keep up the good work. 
  
C.A.G. 

- Original Message -

From: "rchrd ellis1"  
To: "Legacy Ornamental Mills"  
Cc: curtgeo...@wowway.com 
Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2016 2:29:04 PM 
Subject: Re: Hey New Guys! 

Curtis 
The paint is " Two Pack" Ford radiant red, funny you should mention automobiles 
(old bangers ) The paint I got from my friend who was painting an old M.G. 
Sports car. He get some of the cars that he rebuilds from the U,S.A. 
Myself I would rather have a newer V.W. 
The Paint is very hard, but time will tell !!?? 
I enclose another pic of the spindle drive set up, 440Volt but driven by an 
inverter that converts it to single phase220 volt. 
I can control the speed from next to nothing right up to far too much for the 
Woodchuck. 
The caster wheels, each with a brake, are very handy for moving it around 
The drive pulley for the spindle is made from Birch Ply painted with aluminium 
paint.All the best 
Richard 

On Tuesday, August 30, 2016 at 2:21:39 PM UTC+1, Curtis wrote: 


Hello Richard. 
I like it ! What kind of paint did you use? My only concern is, if the paint 
will scratch or peal off,  But she dose look Pretty!  Remember to use lots of 
wax on the rails to keep them lubricated.  
I cant wait to see some projects coming off of this Newly restored Wood Chuck. 
What's Next? adding a V-8  engine  , or having your gears chromed out ? ;-p   

I'm sorry, (I hope my comments are not mistaken here.) You see,  I live right 
off of Woodward ave. the home of the Dream Cruse. (Motor city, Detroit MI. ) I 
see muscle cars, and all kinds of hot rod every day through out the summer 
months.  I think , Your new Candy Apple red paint job, would make any, motor 
head go jealous. ;-) 

Good job Richard. 

C.A.G. 


From: "rchrd ellis1" < rchrd@gmail.com > 
To: "Legacy Ornamental Mills" < legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com > 
Cc: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2016 5:18:20 AM 
Subject: Re: Hey New Guys! 

Hi Tim  
How does my new paint job look??? 

On Monday, August 29, 2016 at 5:44:58 AM UTC+1, Tim wrote: 


Don't be shy, post a question! 
  
-Tim 
  






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Re: Fwd: Project idea, trail and Error.

[Okla Mike (Liltwisted)]

Curtis, use a very thin walled piece of conduit, 5/8" OD.  Slide all 
your pieces over it to create a glued stack and then pass a threaded rod 
through the middle to clamp them in a same manner as you did on the 
first one.  When the glue is dry, remove the threaded rod and replace it 
with a 1/2 steel rod that will now be your core to hold your turning 
onto your lathe as well as adding to the stability.  When you are 
finished milling, you will be able to remove the core, add ends, and 
have a strong light finished piece.  Comparably speaking, this is like 
turning a pen, but this would be the telephone pole of the pen world, so 
congratulations!  LOL



Mike

OK


On 6/28/2016 8:33 PM, CURTIS GEORGE wrote:
On Tue, Jun 28, 2016 at 2:25 PM, CURTIS GEORGE > wrote:


Thank you Richard
My glue up was all at one time. I glues each piece of wood and
then slid the wood down over the rod. and then using a set of
square washers and nuts, I tightened the ends to get the clamping
pressure I needed.
On the good side the all thread rod did a great job with the clamping.
On my next attempt, I think I will be using, 1/4" or 3/8"
stainless steel tubing? that should give me the stability that I
need as well as keeping this project as light as possible.
Like I said in the topic its all Trail and Error.
If I want to get crazy, I could use thicker all thread rod. and
make this really solid, but then this turning most likely could
not be used for canes, but would work out well for something like
lamp stands and or things like, stair case parts???

You know I just had a crazy idea. If I use two small rods for the
spine, and then I could use each rod for an axis, this would make
a oval/off set spindle, perhaps the shape of the cane would help
the stability problem? Or not... but it would be something fun to
play around with. ;-)

I have to run.
Have a great day.
talk to you , and everyone else latter.

C.A.G.

*From: *"rchrd ellis1" >
*To: *"Legacy Ornamental Mills"
>
*Cc: *curtgeo...@wowway.com 
*Sent: *Tuesday, June 28, 2016 2:50:18 AM
*Subject: *Re: Project idea, trail and Error.

Hi Curtis
How did you glue all the small pieces together?? in batches or by
all the pieces on the rod and then clamped by a nut at each end,  
I wonder if it was the latter did the clamp exert the same

pressure on the center pieces. I notice chip board is harder on
the outside than it is in the center, and their press must be huge.
I think alloy tube would be O.K. for the spine, it does bend but
does not stay bent as much as mild steel.
The slices cut at an angle !!! Would they try to slide about when
glued and clamped ??
I do like to see experiments
Regards
Richard

On Monday, June 27, 2016 at 2:34:52 PM UTC+1, Curtis wrote:

Thank you Mac
I will try your suggestions,  Perhaps you are right, that a
bigger surface glue joint could take up the play/slop in this
concept ?  You know the funny thing here is that My Wife
suggested the same things, but for different reasons, (He
suggestions were for appearance/comedic appeal. not structure.)

Thank you.
C.A.G.

*From: *"MWF" >
*To: *legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com 
*Sent: *Monday, June 27, 2016 3:15:06 AM
*Subject: *Re: Project idea, trail and Error.

Curtis,

Perhaps you could try cutting your pieces such that their glue
surfaces are at a "diagonal", like this: (Sort of like you
sometimes see some country-style small slabs of wood cut from
a tree branch and sanded down to serve as a small cheese
cutting board of a message painted on them - making them a
sort of sign - like sold at "Cracker Barrel" restaurants.)

/ ### / ### / ### / ### /  Only with more of a skew for the
cuts.  This will GREATLY increase the surface area of the
"glue joints" - which should help a lot in reducing the
flexing.  Cut your pieces at a 45 or 60 degree angle to the
end grain - then stack and glue them all together.

Another way to try is to get some *high quality* (many thin
laminations) thin plywood. Cut it into strips a bit wider than
your glue-up - and as long as the cane/stack of pieces. After
gluing up all the stack, rip it down the center - yielding two

Fwd: Good video. form my Russian friend. ;-)

[CURTIS GEORGE]

Hello Everyone, 
This is not a Legacy video, but this gentleman dose use an X axis, with his 
carriage and router. A simple jig to make, a Very nice project. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y96LziVJO6I 
  
  
"Always remember its the artist that make the art, not the machine." ;-) 
  
C.A.G. 

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Fwd: MA 12 legacy mill

[CURTIS GEORGE]

- Forwarded Message -

From: "CURTIS GEORGE"  
To: "rchrd ellis1"  
Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2016 10:40:08 AM 
Subject: Re: MA 12 legacy mill 

Good morning Richard 
Congratulations on you purchases, ( the Union Motto, Quality last long, after 
the price has been forgotten .) 
Have you seen Mike Pungs videos, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SjcFpO51upw 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHgzEKnON-o These videos should help you out a 
lot, the indexing video makes it so you do not have to use that indexing pin 
any more. I use both of these methods a lot. Plus Mike is using a WC in these 
videos. 
We have the gear pitch charts for your machine in our archives, (if you need 
them?) 
I would highly suggest that you buy an 1 1/2" or 1 1/4" flat bottomed router 
bit form Magnate https://www.magnate.net/SearchResults.asp?Cat=24 
https://www.magnate.net/SearchResults.asp?Cat=24 Magnate are quality bits, any 
plunging bit will work in the Legacy/Wood Chuck, but the flat bottomed bits are 
the work horse of the machine. ( YOU will be Pleased! ) :-) 

Have a great day. 
Send pictures when you can. 

C.A.G. 
- Forwarded Message -

From: "rchrd ellis1"  
To: "Legacy Ornamental Mills"  
Cc: curtgeo...@wowway.com 
Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2016 3:54:30 AM 
Subject: Re: MA 12 legacy mill 

Yep! I bought it ,paid far too much, I do like a challenge,? 
The split nut is hinged, however when the hinge is open the leadscrew must hit 
and wear out the thread (6 foot leadscrew sag ) if one wants to do planing or 
fluting cuts on a flat or round piece of wood. 
I am still cleaning it and checking everything before I make a cut. The 
indexing pin was bent, now straightened, the knob on the end of the spindle has 
been replaced with a small hand wheel ,to enable a continuous turn as with the 
knob one had to take fresh grip to complete a smooth turn whilst planing etc. 

It came with a Ryobi RE-601 router, also a 110volt drive motor to the leadscrew 
plus Transfomer 240 to 110 volts (I am in the U.K.) two limit switches for the 
travel stops (leadscrew). 

I have a Trend router that I will fit today as I have a few 1/4" cutters and 
don't as yet have a 1/2/ to1/4 collett for the Ryobi. 

The indexing pin, that was bent, is only held in the open position by a simple 
friction plate , a very very poor idea , maybe that is how it got bent or was 
left in by mistake. 

I am still getting my head round the gear set up, as the plate gears that go 
onto the spindle have just 12 indexing holes, how I can make a pepper mill as 
shown., is beyond me. 
I did take a pic. of the mill but will try to put it on show later. 

I will have to make a chart when I have time for the gear set up (have to do 
the sums ) 
Regards 
Richard 


On Saturday, June 11, 2016 at 2:31:55 PM UTC+1, Curtis wrote: 


Richard did you end up buying this Wood-Chuck mill? ON the WC mills that Ive 
seen the split nut was hinged on to the carriage assembly. Can you take some 
pictures of this mill for us? also was there more than one carriage assembly 
with your mill? Phantom at that time use to sell one than one carriage assembly 
for the mill. 
And One more question, do you have a motor drive? if so one or two motors? 
Have a great weekend. 
looking forward to hearing about your adventures. 
C.A.G. 


From: "rchrd ellis1" < rchrd@gmail.com > 
To: "Legacy Ornamental Mills" < legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com > 
Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2016 2:25:29 AM 
Subject: Re: MA 12 legacy mill 

Thanks Aussiman 
I have sent an email off to him, what I need is a half-nut however I can always 
make one from some delrin no doubt after a few tries!!!??? 

On Friday, June 10, 2016 at 3:10:08 AM UTC+1, aussiman wrote: 




Try this 
http://legacycnc.wpengine.com/legacy-associate-program/find-an-associate/?utm_source=Newsletter_medium=email_content=Legacy+CNC+July+4th+Sales+Event_campaign=4th+of+July+Promotion
 

Click on the red marker for uk 

This wayne guy is suppose to be the uk legacy man now but it is legacy cnc so i 
don’t know if he knows much about the old manual stuff like roger his 
predecessor did 

Bill 


From: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com [mailto: 
legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com ] On Behalf Of MWF 
Sent: Friday, 10 June 2016 3:06 AM 
To: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: MA 12 legacy mill 





Richard, 
Before I drove that far for that particular machine, I'd wait for comment to 
pop up from "The House of Roger" there in the UK. Before he ascended to the 
role of "HRH Roger" (meaning he retired - and his wife loves him dearly) Roger 
sold Legacy machines in the UK (and maybe even sold that earlier version.) 
He could probably give you the best info. 
Mac 






-Original Message- 
From: CURTIS GEORGE 
Sent: Jun 6, 2016 8:48 AM 
To: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: MA 12 legacy mill 




Hello 

Fwd: Member requesting to join Legacy Ornamental Mills

[CURTIS GEORGE]

Legacy Ornamental Mills Google Groups   
Philip Burns ( fillbu...@gmail.com ) has asked to join the Legacy Ornamental 
Mills group. 
Message from Philip Burns 


My name is Phil Burns. I am a wood worker and make custom cabinets and 
furniture. I just got an old Legacy manual ornamental mill and would like to 
learn to use it. In looking for video of how to use it, I found this site and 
hope I can find some good pointers in using the mill. 


- Original Message -

From: "CURTIS GEORGE"  
To: "Legacy Ornamental Mills" 
 
Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2016 9:16:25 PM 
Subject: Re: Member requesting to join Legacy Ornamental Mills 

Hello Phil. 
Welcome to the group! You are welcome to go through our archives, This group 
was formed with the intent, of helping people learn to get the most out of the 
Legacy Ornamental mill. 
Which mill did you buy? And do you have a motor drive on your machine?? 

The Legacy is a good tool, and it can do a lot of neat things. As a Furniture 
and cabinet maker. I would think split turnings and corner blocks and 
transition pieces would be the things that you would be most interested in. 
There are lot of things that the Legacy can do that could help you out in your 
business. 
Having said that. There is a slight learning curve to using this machine, I 
would advise you to "Play" with your mill a-bit, before trying to do any thing 
production. 
As a general rule, You have to go slow, before you can go fast. Spend some time 
experimenting with your mill to get a better feel of how it handles and learn 
the different types of cuts that you can make with your mill. 
For reading meteral I suggest looking at the Legacy builders series. (you can 
find them in our archives off our site. 
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/legacy-ornamental-mills 

As far as Videos I would highly suggest that you watch Mike Pung's videos 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHgzEKnON-o 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SjcFpO51upw . 

If you have any problems please feel free to ask any questions you may have. I 
am sure with all the talented people with in our group. someone out there will 
know a better way to get the job done. I know that Ive run into more then a few 
problems over the years. and I know that we have a good group of people out 
there who will be willing to talk you through any problems you may run into. 

Again Welcome to the group! 

I hope to talk to you soon. 

C.A.G. (Curtis A George.) 




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Fwd: Hello

[CURTIS GEORGE]

- Forwarded Message -

From: "CURTIS GEORGE"  
To: "Larry Bucklan"  
Sent: Friday, February 26, 2016 8:56:02 AM 
Subject: Re: Hello 

Hello Larry 
I am glad to hear, that things are starting to workout for you. 
Hey by the way, I dont know why but your last posting , I just found on the 
pending status on the Legacy group page, I just posted them for you. hopefully 
this will be the last time< and you will now be allowed to post freely for your 
self. 
"O" one more thing that I did that you might look into. when wiring my machine, 
I used speaker wire for my wiring, its good looking, dose not fray and its 
CHEAP to buy. also don't forger an over ride for you limit switches. so you can 
drive the carrage off of the limit switch with out loosing your 
placement/gearing/alignment. 
Have a great day. 
C.A.G. 

- Forwarded Message -

From: "Larry Bucklan"  
To: "Legacy Ornamental Mills"  
Cc: curtgeo...@wowway.com 
Sent: Friday, February 26, 2016 7:59:17 AM 
Subject: Re: Hello 

Hello Curtis, 

My local electric motor guy was able to direct me to Grainger to pick up a new 
controller, more expensive than the site you suggested but he also had to 
rewire it. Evidently the previous owner had fiddled with it, which was probably 
the cause of the controller to burn out. Just picked it up and it's working 
fine. 

Legacy still has the split nuts, so I ordered some from them. As to the clamp 
for the Z axis, I bought some 2 x 2 x 1/4" aluminum angle and I think I can 
replicate what I've seen in some pictures. I hope aluminum will be strong 
enough, if not, at least I'll have something to take to a machine shop for them 
to use as a model. 

Going to pick up a PC Speedmatic that I found on Craig's list, so I'm getting 
close to turning this thing on. 

Thanks for your compliment about my website. all the credit goes to Helen Kim 
of The Think Farm. She's as technically savvy as she is creative, and you won't 
meet a nicer human being. I feel very lucky to have met her. 

I'll keep you posted about my progress. 

Regards, 

L. 







On Sunday, February 21, 2016 at 3:35:35 PM UTC-8, Curtis wrote: 



Hello Larry 
Welcome to the group. 
I am sorry to hear that your Legacy is not quite ready for the job yet. Its the 
curse of the second hand owner. On E-bay KB electronics can replace your motor 
controller. 
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Input-AC110V-Output-DC0-90V-DC-Motor-Speed-Controller-/161979398333?hash=item25b6b978bd:g:57AAAOSwFNZWwoNf
 $35.00 is a hard price to beat. Ive bought a few over the years. 

Hopefully the Legacy will be able to replace the Lead screw "knob" part of the 
split nut for you? If not??? I have a few ideas, on this topic that we can 
explore, latter. 

Sadly I know very little about the Z axis parts. Hopefully someone out there 
can help you with that one? 

Sadly Im pressed for time at this min. So I need to keep things short. 

Again Welcome to the group. 

Talk to you more latter. 

C.A.G. 

P.S. 

You have a nice looking web site. Thank you. 





From: "Larry Bucklan" < la...@bucklandesign.com > 
To: "Legacy Ornamental Mills" < legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com > 
Sent: Sunday, February 21, 2016 11:54:15 AM 
Subject: Hello 

Hello All, 
I'm brand new to the group and to Legacy mills. I'm a cabinet maker and 
furniture builder in Los Angeles and just picked up a model 1800 - supposedly 
with all the bells and whistles and no issues - from a commercial shop here in 
town. While it may have once had all the bells and whistles, there are a couple 
of important pieces missing. I don't have the 2 pieces that clamp the 3 sets of 
"ribs" that hold the router in place on the Z axis setup and I'm missing the 
knob part of one of the split nuts. Also the controller for the DC motor drive 
is fried, but my electric motor guy tells me I can get a replacement from 
Grainger. I don't have a manual either, so no telling what else is missing. 
I've put in a call to the seller and I'm confident that if he can locate the 
parts, he'll get them to me. I've also talked with the nice folks at Legacy and 
I'm waiting to see what they have in the way of spare parts. So, I'm just sort 
of cleaning it up and dreaming about just how frustrating it will be in trying 
to learn how to use the thing... 

Curtis sent me a very nice welcome letter (Thank you, Curtis) and in it he 
suggested I post some pictures of my work. I'll take the lazy man's way out and 
direct anyone who may be interested to my website: bucklandesign.com . 

I've taken a quick trip through the pictures posted in the group and have seen 
some really beautiful things and clever modifications. My initial hopes for the 
machine are pretty meager by comparison; some fancy legs for a rolling butcher 
block table and creating some wedge shaped pieces for a table I've been 
thinking about for years. 

I look forward to "meeting" 

Fwd: The Maverick Video

[CURTIS GEORGE]

The Master of sales is at it again. I have to admit this unit and video look 
pretty good! 

C.A.G. 

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Fwd: Michael Hampton

[CURTIS GEORGE]

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From: "CURTIS GEORGE"  
To: "Michael Hampton"  
Sent: Monday, December 28, 2015 10:44:08 PM 
Subject: Re: Michael Hampton 

"HOLEY COW" YOU have linear slides on the rails!!! 
What a Dream Come True! 
Micheal your machine is Awesome! What a find. (Im starting to get tool envy 
here!) ;-p 
C.A.G. 

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Sent: Monday, December 28, 2015 9:11:45 PM 
Subject: Re: Michael Hampton 

Here are a couple of pictures. The glides that are on top of the square rails 
are the parts that I think were added by the old owner. 



On Sunday, December 27, 2015 at 1:57:30 PM UTC-8, Curtis wrote: 


Hello Everyone, We have a new member who has some questions, Can any of you all 
help him out? 
C.A.G. 

Hello, I just purchased a Model 1800 that was in pieces. Looking for a few 
parts to finish putting it together and any info on how to us it. I do have the 
manual and it came with a lot of upgrades. hopping this site would be useful. 





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Fwd: What would you do???

[CURTIS GEORGE]

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To: Dexter Bland dexterbl...@gmail.com 
Sent: Monday, May 11, 2015 11:07:15 AM 
Subject: Re: What would you do??? 


Hello Dexter getting it out of the shop will not be all that hard. And I may 
have a new owner for this table? 
The Funny thing about this is your suggestion of making a claw foot, I was also 
thinking along those lines as well. But I was thinking of trying the Legacy for 
that job ,AT least in part... 
If you took a reeding bit and an index plate. I think it would be possible to 
make a pretty rough claw foot. something these would be possible. Im sure with 
some trial and error, someone out there could make a nice looking claw foot on 
or with the Legacy. 

Hay guy! (people) How about it? Lets make it a challenge. who can make the best 
feet ? 
I will give it a shot, but it may take a few days, Im getting behind on my 
Honey do list. (I have to make some wooden shelf's for a cabinet and a new 
screen door, before I can play.) ;-) 

Just some Food for thought. 
Thanks Dexter. 
C.A.G. 
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Cc: curtgeo...@wowway.com 
Sent: Monday, May 11, 2015 10:18:43 AM 
Subject: Re: What would you do??? 

I like it. The only thing missing is pulling out a chisel and carving out the 
toe's and making it a claw-foot table. Now the only problem is how to get out 
of your shop. If yours is like mine, space is at premium. 
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Fwd: 12 Red Hot Holiday Offers in 12 Days

[CURTIS GEORGE]

WOW! I can afford the Warranty! ;-P 
Sorry guys! it struck me funny, the prices are a bit hard to swallow. 
I hope That Legacy dose well, but I for one am out of this race, These toys 
are a bit to expensive for my taste. 
C.A.G. 

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Sent: Wednesday, December 3, 2014 6:12:09 PM 
Subject: 12 Red Hot Holiday Offers in 12 Days 

12 Red Hot Holiday Offers in 12 Days 
For the next 12 days Legacy will be highlighting a used machine that has been 
traded in. All of these systems will be sold on a first come first serve basis. 
If you have been dreaming of a CNC Christmas then this is a great time to cash 
in on some amazing savings. Contact one of our sales professionals today! 
12 in 12 : The Systems 
MACHINE 

Original Price 

Special Offer 

Warranty 

Explorer 2 , 25 X 25 frame router ready, needs computer 
4495.00 3596.00 314.65 
Explorer 2 , 25 X 25 frame with Liquid cooled spindle, needs computer 
6995.00 5596.00 489.65 
Explorer 2 , 25 X 25 frame with Liquid cooled spindle, needs computer 
6995.00 5596.00 489.65 
Explorer 2 , 25 X 25 frame with Liquid cooled spindle, needs computer 
6995.00 5596.00 489.65 
Arty 36 ,18 Y axis capacity frame,for router, needs computer 
10225.007500.00 
715.75 
Arty 36 , 18 y axis capacity frame, LC spindle, two rail turning system with 
laptop computer 
13000.00 
9100.00 910.00 
Arty 58 , 18 Y axis capacity frame, mono rail turning system, router ready, 
needs computer 
11525.008643.75 987.00 
Arty 58 , 18 y axis capacity frame, two rail turning system with LC spindle, 
needs computer 
14100.009870.00 987.00 
Arty 58 , 18 Y axis capacity frame, mono rail turning system, with LC spindle 
and laptop computer 
14100.00 
9870.00 987.00 
Artisan 48 , mono-rail turning system, LC spindle, needs computer 
19215.0014411.251345.05 
Artisan 72 , mono-rail turning system, LC spindle, needs computer 
23340.0017505.001633.80 
Artisan 2 , ATC demonstation system 48X96X8 work envelop, new DynaLock spindle, 
some tooling. Warranty does not cover spindle. 
49635.0034744.503474.45 
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2. Warranty includes two days of factory training and access to Legacy's online 
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3. A PC laptop can be purchased for any holiday offer CNCs that require 
computers for $650.00. This price includes laptop and all control software 
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Fwd: My new Z axis

[CURTIS GEORGE]

I love it ! ;-) You are very funny Mac. 
But I many ways it was a marriage made in Heaven .(my workshop/ Man cave. As my 
wife calls it.) I wanted Rack-on-pinon for lifting and lowering of the router/Z 
axis, It just seemed right, and the shopsmith table top/lift system looked like 
it would work. I wielded uni-strut nuts inside of the Shopsmith rails, so that 
mount parts. by loosening the locking knob also allows me to adjust the 
distance that I can move away for the carriage assembly. Again the hole idea is 
make the hole set-up very user friendly for future project. (like the pivoting 
router idea.) 

Guys I have to get to work now. Thank you for all your comments and ideas. 
Please keep them coming. 
C.A.G. 

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Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2014 9:24:26 PM 
Subject: Re: My new Z axis 

Curtis and Mike, 
It has happened! Legacy Ornamental Mill and Shopsmith have married! With so 
many Shopsmiths spending the night in the shop with LOMs, it was bound to 
eventually happen. 
So, ya'll with both machines - be forewarned of the consequences of not 
practicing Safe Shop. 
Be sure to cover your machines when you are not present (make sure no holes in 
cover) - or you too may find a brilliant mix of the two in your shop one day. 
LoL. 
Wonderful creative thinking and a great job Curtis. I look forward to seeing 
more pics and descriptions of your hybrid. (Mike, I too am a fan and own a 
Shopsmith Mark V, model 520.) 

Mac 




-Original Message- 
From: Okla Mike (Liltwisted) 
Sent: Oct 21, 2014 6:59 PM 
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: My new Z axis 

I'm a ShopSmith fan and I think it's great to use the table lift system to 
accomplish your elevation. I am a big fan of re-purpose too. Great Job Curt 

Mike 
OK 
On 10/21/2014 5:55 PM, CURTIS GEORGE wrote: 

blockquote


Here is another photo for the side. 
C.A.G. 
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To: Legacy-Ornamental-Mills legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2014 6:47:37 PM 
Subject: My new Z axis 

Hello Everyone. 
Today I think Im ready to show everyone my new Z axis, for my Legacy ornamental 
mill. 
My Z axis has 9 of plunge depth, The rack-in-pinon movement give me a lot of 
control of my plunge , I have a fine adjustment knob on the rail for even 
greater control of my cut. 
This unit is very stable even at full extension. 
This Z axis was build to be modulator, meaning with two screws and four knobs 
loosened this unit comes off my machine very quickly and is easy to replace 
when/if needed. but what is even more important to me, is that I can add on to 
this set-up for future project ideas. 
You can see my Y movement is now linear bearings, which gives me a more free 
movement than what Legacy's slides gave me. 
I still have two more attachment that need to be made before I can start my 
newest idea, on how to make the Legacy do even more ornamental type of work. 
(but that is entirely a different topic, for latter conversations .) 
Please let me know what you all think of my contraption. 
All that I can tell you is, For now I really like my newest toy. ;-) 
C.A.G. 



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Fwd: New videos released just in time for Father's Day

[CURTIS GEORGE]

Hello Everyone 
this was sent to me. Ifs pretty nice fathers day gift to all of us. The video 
is entertaining I hope you all enjoy AS Much as I did.. 
C.A.G. 

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Re: Fwd: spiral cuts control

[Tim Krause]

Hi Bob,

How do you hold the pencil?  A while back I made a floating pen that could be 
installed in the router chuck.  It was designed to enable me to explore some 
rotary table possibilities without going through wood.  It works great when 
paper is used.  I was going to make a floating pencil version, but I never got 
around to making one.  

-Tim


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From: BobW weig...@hevanet.com
To: Legacy Ornamental Mills legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2011 11:24 AM
Subject: Re: Fwd: spiral cuts control


You know what I do? I set up the mill by the book then I take a pencil
and place it on the turned wood and run the machine a few inches. That
way i know the calculations are correct. I'm cheep when it comes to
wood. This way I don't screw it up.

On Jan 18, 12:10 pm, ronkir...@aol.com wrote:
 [ Attached Message ]From:Ronkir...@aol.comTo:curtgeo...@wowway.comDate:Tue, 
 18 Jan 2011 14:17:22 ESTLocal:Tues, Jan 18 2011 11:17 amSubject:spiral cuts 
 control

 Hi Curt
 I forgot to mention in my message how to use the X values for cutting. I 
 would draw a line on piece of paper whose length is the calculated spiral
 length based on your pitch and column diameter. I would then mark off the bit 
 centers based on the bit diameter and number of patterns desired. Spacing
 or how much overlap desired should also be considered. These bit positions
 should be equal to one another. I would then calculate the corresponding X
 axis values of the bit positions using the equation in my previous message.
 Now I would place some masking tape along the X axis((say on top of the
 existing X axis measuring tape) and measure off the X axis values you 
 calculated always measuring from the starting position. For example
 a = b x P/S , 2a = 2b x P/S etc. This way the error due to round up or
 down in the P/S doesn't accumulate. Then you can drive the router to first
 position lock the X axis and make your cut. Then unlock the X axis and moved
 the router the next mark on the tape and make your cut. I think this way
 you have more control with your stops. Let me know you think.
 Ron
 PS Once you perform all the cuts change the bit to a button bit. Using the
 same bit centers cut buttons in the center of each ring. I think that would
 look nice. However, if you are overlapping your rings you will have
 trouble unless the buttons are outside the overlap region.

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Re: Fwd: spiral cuts control

[BobW]

You know what I do? I set up the mill by the book then I take a pencil
and place it on the turned wood and run the machine a few inches. That
way i know the calculations are correct. I'm cheep when it comes to
wood. This way I don't screw it up.

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 [ Attached Message ]From:Ronkir...@aol.comTo:curtgeo...@wowway.comDate:Tue, 
 18 Jan 2011 14:17:22 ESTLocal:Tues, Jan 18 2011 11:17 amSubject:spiral cuts 
 control

 Hi Curt
 I forgot to mention in my message how to use the X values for cutting. I  
 would draw a line on piece of paper whose length is the calculated spiral
 length  based on your pitch and column diameter. I would then mark off the 
 bit  
 centers based on the bit diameter and number of patterns desired.  Spacing
 or how much overlap desired should also be considered.  These bit positions
 should be equal to one another. I would then calculate the  corresponding X
 axis values of the bit positions using the equation in my  previous message.
 Now I would place some masking tape along the X axis((say on  top of the
 existing X axis measuring tape) and measure off the X axis values you  
 calculated always measuring from the starting position. For example
 a = b x P/S , 2a = 2b x P/S etc. This way the error due  to round up or
 down in the P/S doesn't accumulate. Then you can drive the  router to first
 position lock the X axis and make your cut. Then  unlock the X axis and moved
 the router the next  mark on the tape and make  your cut. I think this way
 you have more control with your stops. Let me know  you think.
 Ron
 PS Once you perform all the cuts change the bit to a button bit. Using  the
 same bit centers cut buttons in the center of each ring. I think that would
  look nice. However, if you are overlapping your rings you will have
 trouble  unless the buttons are outside the overlap region.

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