Re: Congratulations to all and here is your trophy!

[Tim]

Critical dimensions, getting picky huh.  The center hub is 1/2" x 3/4".  
The index holes are .200" on a 4.0 diameter spaced a 18.947º.  In the old 
days I would be happy to say, just buy an index plate from me :-).

On Tuesday, January 2, 2018 at 12:22:39 PM UTC-8, Va Oak wrote:
>
> Tim,
>
> Thanks - someone will appreciate it.   I'm going to save/file this and 
> hold - in case I ever need a 19-hole index plate.
> For "accuracy" purposes, can you tell us what some of the key (critical) 
> measurements should be.  A number of the printers & copier/printers out 
> there do not necessarily print at a true 100%.  Thus, if you tried to make 
> an exact copy of a printout, the key distances could be off - resulting in 
> less than satisfactory results.
>
> Mac
> --
> --
>
> -Original Message-
> >From: Tim Krause 
> >Sent: Jan 2, 2018 1:34 PM
> >To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> >Subject: Re: Congratulations to all and here is your trophy!
> >
> >Here's a template for an index plate that has 19 holes.  The time spent 
> >was trivial.
> >
> >-Tim
>
>

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Re: Congratulations to all and here is your trophy!

[MWF]

Tim,Thanks - someone will appreciate it.   I'm going to save/file this and hold - in case I ever need a 19-hole index plate.For "accuracy" purposes, can you tell us what some of the key (critical) measurements should be.  A number of the printers & copier/printers out there do not necessarily print at a true 100%.  Thus, if you tried to make an exact copy of a printout, the key distances could be off - resulting in less than satisfactory results.Mac-Original Message->From: Tim Krause >Sent: Jan 2, 2018 1:34 PM>To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>Subject: Re: Congratulations to all and here is your trophy!>>Here's a template for an index plate that has 19 holes.  The time spent >was trivial.>>-Tim



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Re: Congratulations to all and here is your trophy!

[Tim Krause]

Here's a template for an index plate that has 19 holes.  The time spent 
was trivial.


-Tim



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RE: Congratulations to all and here is your trophy!

[Tim Krause]

Mike, I knew you would be using crank handle method.  My first thought is to 
simply make a 19 hole index plate.  Those prime numbers really throw things 
off.  In my mind I multiplied 19 x 2 to equal a 38" pitch.  Then you could 
figure out the number of cranks.  Ah, but then we have a new problem, how do we 
get that long of a pitch?  We would have to make a new gear.  Too much work, I 
say, back to my index plate.  

Tim

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On Jan 1, 2018, 12:41 PM, at 12:41 PM, Bill Bulkeley  
wrote:
>Mike
>
>You got me the closest I can get is 18 divisions using a 4.5inch pitch
>1 crank, not 19 too yearly in the year for my poor old brain you will
>have to enlighten me on this one
>
> 
>
>Bill
>
> 
>
>From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
>[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Okla
>Mike (Liltwisted)
>Sent: Tuesday, 2 January 2018 5:59 AM
>To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
>Subject: Re: Congratulations to all and here is your trophy!
>
> 
>
>You are correct that I used the "Crank Handle Indexing"  But what math
>would you use to create 19 indexes?
>
>I have no idea how heavy they turned out but I did what I could to
>lessen the load.
>
>Mike OK
>
> 
>
> 
>
>On 1/1/2018 12:50 PM, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills wrote:
>
>Very Nice Mike!
>
>I very much like your gear indexing concept... (Just for those who have
>not seen Mike's video... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHgzEKnON-o
> =7s )
>
> 
>
>Now one of these days we need to take a better look at the Radio lathe/
>wood chuck modifications  (but that's another topic.)  
>
> 
>
>How heavy are those trophy s ? they are huge! 
>
> 
>
>Thanks  for sharing with us Mike.  
>
>Happy New Year!
>
> 
>
>C.A.G.
>
> 
>
>On Monday, January 1, 2018 12:38 PM, Okla Mike (Liltwisted) 
>  wrote:
>
> 
>
>Well here is the first post of the year with my Wood Chuck.  I have
>been making many trophy bases over the years that have gone in a lot of
>important events.  Here are two of them.  The Nascar Quicktrip 500 and
>the Arena Football AFL trophys.  We will start with the 500.
>
>
>
>The black part that looks like a tire is what I make.  
>
>I use a bird mouth to assemble then turn it round.  Dyna-glide for
>scale
>
>
>
>You can see all I had to do to increase my Wood Chuck to swing 20"
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>then true up the ends and glue on the top
>
>
>
>then I flush trim, round over the corners and put a 14 inch inset for
>the trophy top to set.
>
>
>
>Ta Da!  Total of about 3 hours work.  They seem to like it cause they
>have been having me make them for the last 6 years.
>
> 
>
>Next we have the Arena Football trophy.  I don't have as many picture
>of it though.
>
>Again it is, as you can see, the part they painted.  Then they inlaid
>the flutes with polished metal and then assembled.
>
>
>
>On this one I just used a 22.5 cut, it's only 7.5" in diameter and was
>easy to control.  But here is the fun part, the flutes!
>
>
>
>
>They were supposed to be 5/8" flutes with 5/8 space.  Do the math, it's
>19 indexes.  
>How did I do it??
>I'll leave you with that.  More later
>Mike OK
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RE: Congratulations to all and here is your trophy!

[Bill Bulkeley]

It’s actually Tims document he made it after looking at what mike did credit to 
both i think

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of MWF
Sent: Tuesday, 2 January 2018 2:11 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Congratulations to all and here is your trophy!

 

Bill,

Thanks for dredging that up.  It is very useful.
A huge "Thank you" is in order to Mike Pung for having produced this document.
Happy New Year to all!

Mac

  _  

  _  

-Original Message- 
From: Bill Bulkeley 
Sent: Jan 1, 2018 9:11 PM 
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: Congratulations to all and here is your trophy! 




Digging around the archives i found this for you all that are interested in 
crank handle indexing but might be having trouble following it

And how to do it

http://artscopes.com/legacyornamentalmill/tools/pungs_index_method/pungs_index_method.html

 

there is a nice chart tim did years ago that i think makes it easier to follow 
how to do it..

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Okla Mike 
(Liltwisted)
Sent: Tuesday, 2 January 2018 12:33 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Congratulations to all and here is your trophy!

 

Thanks Bill, By backing it off 1/19 per revolution, every flute gave up just a 
little but that .05", 19 times was enough to add a flute.  There is always a 
way, CNC would have just been a number but I am See and SEE.  LOL Oh and a 
little math.

Mike OK

 

On 1/1/2018 6:22 PM, Bill Bulkeley wrote:

I see very clever mike I think I would have just done 18 and had the spaces a 
little wider than the flutes or widen the flutes a little

Very clever your still the man

 

Bill

 

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Okla Mike 
(Liltwisted)
Sent: Tuesday, 2 January 2018 10:56 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Congratulations to all and here is your trophy!

 

That is right, a 4.5 inch pitch when cranked on a 4 turns per inch acme thread 
will give you 18 turns to complete one revolution.  

Here's what I did.  I clamped a piece of cardboard to the rail to use as a 
pointer and placed it to where I could point at the duplex gear face.  Then on 
the duplex gear I made 19 marks, math was involved. I used a compass to draw a 
6.05" circle. 6.05" X 3.14= a 19 inch circumference.  So then I made a mark 
every inch with a whiteboard marker.  I make my first cut on a mark, crank the 
handle and back it off one mark and rub off that mark.  Repeat and it will give 
you the one extra index per revolution.  If I had to make more than one, I 
would number them and keep track that way.  Could you imagine trying to do this 
job with trying to find a pin and hole set-up?  OK now let's see some cool 
stuff this year.

Mike OK

 

On 1/1/2018 2:41 PM, Bill Bulkeley wrote:

Mike

You got me the closest I can get is 18 divisions using a 4.5inch pitch 1 crank, 
not 19 too yearly in the year for my poor old brain you will have to enlighten 
me on this one

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Okla Mike 
(Liltwisted)
Sent: Tuesday, 2 January 2018 5:59 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Congratulations to all and here is your trophy!

 

You are correct that I used the "Crank Handle Indexing"  But what math would 
you use to create 19 indexes?

I have no idea how heavy they turned out but I did what I could to lessen the 
load.

Mike OK

 

 

On 1/1/2018 12:50 PM, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills wrote:

Very Nice Mike!

I very much like your gear indexing concept... (Just for those who have not 
seen Mike's video... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHgzEKnON-o 
 =7s )

 

Now one of these days we need to take a better look at the Radio lathe/ wood 
chuck modifications  (but that's another topic.)  

 

How heavy are those trophy s ? they are huge! 

 

Thanks  for sharing with us Mike.  

Happy New Year!

 

C.A.G.

 

On Monday, January 1, 2018 12:38 PM, Okla Mike (Liltwisted)  
  wrote:

 

Well here is the first post of the year with my Wood Chuck.  I have been making 
many trophy bases over the years that have gone in a lot of important events.  
Here are two of them.  The Nascar Quicktrip 500 and the Arena Football AFL 
trophys.  We will start with the 500.



The black part that looks like a tire is what I make.  

I use a bird mouth to assemble then turn it round.  Dyna-glide for scale



You can see all I had to do to increase my Wood Chuck to swing 20"







then true up the ends and glue on the top



then I flush trim, round over the 

RE: Congratulations to all and here is your trophy!

[MWF]

Bill,Thanks for dredging that up.  It is very useful.A huge "Thank you" is in order to Mike Pung for having produced this document.Happy New Year to all!Mac-Original Message-
From: Bill Bulkeley 
Sent: Jan 1, 2018 9:11 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Congratulations to all and here is your trophy!











 

 
  
 






Digging around the
archives i found this for you all that are interested in crank handle indexing
but might be having trouble following it

And how to do it

http://artscopes.com/legacyornamentalmill/tools/pungs_index_method/pungs_index_method.html

 

there is a nice chart
tim did years ago that i think makes it easier to follow how to do it..

 

Bill

 





From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Okla Mike (Liltwisted)
Sent: Tuesday, 2 January 2018
12:33 PM
To:
legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Congratulations to
all and here is your trophy!





 

Thanks
Bill, By backing it off 1/19 per revolution, every flute gave up just a little
but that .05", 19 times was enough to add a flute.  There is always a
way, CNC would have just been a number but I am See and SEE.  LOL Oh and a
little math.

Mike
OK

 



On 1/1/2018 6:22 PM, Bill Bulkeley wrote:





I see very clever
mike I think I would have just done 18 and had the spaces a little wider than
the flutes or widen the flutes a little

Very clever your
still the man

 

Bill

 

 





From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com]
On Behalf Of Okla Mike
(Liltwisted)
Sent: Tuesday, 2 January 2018 10:56
AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Congratulations to
all and here is your trophy!





 

That
is right, a 4.5 inch pitch when cranked on a 4 turns per inch acme thread will
give you 18 turns to complete one revolution.  

Here's
what I did.  I clamped a piece of cardboard to the rail to use as a
pointer and placed it to where I could point at the duplex gear face. 
Then on the duplex gear I made 19 marks, math was involved. I used a compass to
draw a 6.05" circle. 6.05" X 3.14= a 19 inch circumference.  So
then I made a mark every inch with a whiteboard marker.  I make my first
cut on a mark, crank the handle and back it off one mark and rub off that
mark.  Repeat and it will give you the one extra index per
revolution.  If I had to make more than one, I would number them and keep
track that way.  Could you imagine trying to do this job with trying to
find a pin and hole set-up?  OK now let's see some cool stuff this year.

Mike
OK

 



On 1/1/2018 2:41 PM, Bill Bulkeley wrote:





Mike

You got me the
closest I can get is 18 divisions using a 4.5inch pitch 1 crank, not 19 too
yearly in the year for my poor old brain you will have to enlighten me on this
one

 

Bill

 





From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com]
On Behalf Of Okla Mike
(Liltwisted)
Sent: Tuesday, 2 January 2018 5:59
AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Congratulations to
all and here is your trophy!





 

You
are correct that I used the "Crank Handle Indexing"  But what
math would you use to create 19 indexes?

I
have no idea how heavy they turned out but I did what I could to lessen the
load.

Mike
OK

 

 



On 1/1/2018 12:50 PM, 'Curt George' via Legacy
Ornamental Mills wrote:









Very
Nice Mike!





I
very much like your gear indexing concept... (Just for those who have not seen
Mike's video... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHgzEKnON-o=7s )





 





Now
one of these days we need to take a better look at the Radio lathe/ wood chuck
modifications  (but that's another topic.)  





 





How
heavy are those trophy s ? they are huge! 





 





Thanks 
for sharing with us Mike.  





Happy
New Year!





 





C.A.G.





 











On
Monday, January 1, 2018 12:38 PM, Okla Mike (Liltwisted)  wrote:



 









Well
here is the first post of the year with my Wood Chuck.  I have been making
many trophy bases over the years that have gone in a lot of important
events.  Here are two of them.  The Nascar Quicktrip 500 and the
Arena Football AFL trophys.  We will start with the 500.











The
black part that looks like a tire is what I make.  





I
use a bird mouth to assemble then turn it round.  Dyna-glide for scale











You
can see all I had to do to increase my Wood Chuck to swing 20"























then
true up the ends and glue on the top











then
I flush trim, round over the corners and put a 14 inch inset for the trophy top
to set.











Ta
Da!  Total of about 3 hours work.  They seem to like it cause they
have been having me make them for the last 6 years.

RE: Congratulations to all and here is your trophy!

[Bill Bulkeley]

Digging around the archives i found this for you all that are interested in 
crank handle indexing but might be having trouble following it

And how to do it

http://artscopes.com/legacyornamentalmill/tools/pungs_index_method/pungs_index_method.html

 

there is a nice chart tim did years ago that i think makes it easier to follow 
how to do it..

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Okla Mike 
(Liltwisted)
Sent: Tuesday, 2 January 2018 12:33 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Congratulations to all and here is your trophy!

 

Thanks Bill, By backing it off 1/19 per revolution, every flute gave up just a 
little but that .05", 19 times was enough to add a flute.  There is always a 
way, CNC would have just been a number but I am See and SEE.  LOL Oh and a 
little math.

Mike OK

 

On 1/1/2018 6:22 PM, Bill Bulkeley wrote:

I see very clever mike I think I would have just done 18 and had the spaces a 
little wider than the flutes or widen the flutes a little

Very clever your still the man

 

Bill

 

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Okla Mike 
(Liltwisted)
Sent: Tuesday, 2 January 2018 10:56 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Congratulations to all and here is your trophy!

 

That is right, a 4.5 inch pitch when cranked on a 4 turns per inch acme thread 
will give you 18 turns to complete one revolution.  

Here's what I did.  I clamped a piece of cardboard to the rail to use as a 
pointer and placed it to where I could point at the duplex gear face.  Then on 
the duplex gear I made 19 marks, math was involved. I used a compass to draw a 
6.05" circle. 6.05" X 3.14= a 19 inch circumference.  So then I made a mark 
every inch with a whiteboard marker.  I make my first cut on a mark, crank the 
handle and back it off one mark and rub off that mark.  Repeat and it will give 
you the one extra index per revolution.  If I had to make more than one, I 
would number them and keep track that way.  Could you imagine trying to do this 
job with trying to find a pin and hole set-up?  OK now let's see some cool 
stuff this year.

Mike OK

 

On 1/1/2018 2:41 PM, Bill Bulkeley wrote:

Mike

You got me the closest I can get is 18 divisions using a 4.5inch pitch 1 crank, 
not 19 too yearly in the year for my poor old brain you will have to enlighten 
me on this one

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Okla Mike 
(Liltwisted)
Sent: Tuesday, 2 January 2018 5:59 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Congratulations to all and here is your trophy!

 

You are correct that I used the "Crank Handle Indexing"  But what math would 
you use to create 19 indexes?

I have no idea how heavy they turned out but I did what I could to lessen the 
load.

Mike OK

 

 

On 1/1/2018 12:50 PM, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills wrote:

Very Nice Mike!

I very much like your gear indexing concept... (Just for those who have not 
seen Mike's video... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHgzEKnON-o 
 =7s )

 

Now one of these days we need to take a better look at the Radio lathe/ wood 
chuck modifications  (but that's another topic.)  

 

How heavy are those trophy s ? they are huge! 

 

Thanks  for sharing with us Mike.  

Happy New Year!

 

C.A.G.

 

On Monday, January 1, 2018 12:38 PM, Okla Mike (Liltwisted)  
  wrote:

 

Well here is the first post of the year with my Wood Chuck.  I have been making 
many trophy bases over the years that have gone in a lot of important events.  
Here are two of them.  The Nascar Quicktrip 500 and the Arena Football AFL 
trophys.  We will start with the 500.



The black part that looks like a tire is what I make.  

I use a bird mouth to assemble then turn it round.  Dyna-glide for scale



You can see all I had to do to increase my Wood Chuck to swing 20"







then true up the ends and glue on the top



then I flush trim, round over the corners and put a 14 inch inset for the 
trophy top to set.



Ta Da!  Total of about 3 hours work.  They seem to like it cause they have been 
having me make them for the last 6 years.

 

Next we have the Arena Football trophy.  I don't have as many picture of it 
though.

Again it is, as you can see, the part they painted.  Then they inlaid the 
flutes with polished metal and then assembled.



On this one I just used a 22.5 cut, it's only 7.5" in diameter and was easy to 
control.  But here is the fun part, the flutes!




They were supposed to be 5/8" flutes with 5/8 space.  Do the math, it's 19 
indexes.  
How did I do it??
I'll leave you with that.  More later
Mike OK

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Re: Congratulations to all and here is your trophy!

[Okla Mike (Liltwisted)]

Thanks Bill, By backing it off 1/19 per revolution, every flute gave up 
just a little but that .05", 19 times was enough to add a flute.  There 
is always a way, CNC would have just been a number but I am See and 
SEE.  LOL Oh and a little math.


Mike OK


On 1/1/2018 6:22 PM, Bill Bulkeley wrote:


I see very clever mike I think I would have just done 18 and had the 
spaces a little wider than the flutes or widen the flutes a little


Very clever your still the man

Bill

*From:*legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Okla 
Mike (Liltwisted)

*Sent:* Tuesday, 2 January 2018 10:56 AM
*To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* Re: Congratulations to all and here is your trophy!

That is right, a 4.5 inch pitch when cranked on a 4 turns per inch 
acme thread will give you 18 turns to complete one revolution.


Here's what I did.  I clamped a piece of cardboard to the rail to use 
as a pointer and placed it to where I could point at the duplex gear 
face. Then on the duplex gear I made 19 marks, math was involved. I 
used a compass to draw a 6.05" circle. 6.05" X 3.14= a 19 inch 
circumference.  So then I made a mark every inch with a whiteboard 
marker.  I make my first cut on a mark, crank the handle and back it 
off one mark and rub off that mark.  Repeat and it will give you the 
one extra index per revolution.  If I had to make more than one, I 
would number them and keep track that way.  Could you imagine trying 
to do this job with trying to find a pin and hole set-up?  OK now 
let's see some cool stuff this year.


Mike OK

On 1/1/2018 2:41 PM, Bill Bulkeley wrote:

Mike

You got me the closest I can get is 18 divisions using a 4.5inch
pitch 1 crank, not 19 too yearly in the year for my poor old brain
you will have to enlighten me on this one

Bill

*From:*legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com

[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of
*Okla Mike (Liltwisted)
*Sent:* Tuesday, 2 January 2018 5:59 AM
*To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com

*Subject:* Re: Congratulations to all and here is your trophy!

You are correct that I used the "Crank Handle Indexing"  But what
math would you use to create 19 indexes?

I have no idea how heavy they turned out but I did what I could to
lessen the load.

Mike OK

On 1/1/2018 12:50 PM, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills wrote:

Very Nice Mike!

I very much like your gear indexing concept... (Just for those
who have not seen Mike's video...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHgzEKnON-o=7s )

Now one of these days we need to take a better look at the
Radio lathe/ wood chuck modifications  (but that's another
topic.)

How heavy are those trophy s ? they are huge!

Thanks for sharing with us Mike.

Happy New Year!

C.A.G.

On Monday, January 1, 2018 12:38 PM, Okla Mike (Liltwisted)
  wrote:

Well here is the first post of the year with my Wood Chuck.  I
have been making many trophy bases over the years that have
gone in a lot of important events.  Here are two of them.  The
Nascar Quicktrip 500 and the Arena Football AFL trophys.  We
will start with the 500.

The black part that looks like a tire is what I make.

I use a bird mouth to assemble then turn it round.  Dyna-glide
for scale

You can see all I had to do to increase my Wood Chuck to swing 20"

then true up the ends and glue on the top

then I flush trim, round over the corners and put a 14 inch
inset for the trophy top to set.

Ta Da!  Total of about 3 hours work. They seem to like it
cause they have been having me make them for the last 6 years.

Next we have the Arena Football trophy.  I don't have as many
picture of it though.

Again it is, as you can see, the part they painted.  Then they
inlaid the flutes with polished metal and then assembled.

On this one I just used a 22.5 cut, it's only 7.5" in diameter
and was easy to control.  But here is the fun part, the flutes!


They were supposed to be 5/8" flutes with 5/8 space.  Do the
math, it's 19 indexes.
How did I do it??
I'll leave you with that.  More later
Mike OK

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Re: Congratulations to all and here is your trophy!

['Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills]

Thank you Mike.Ive been working  on this math problem for over an hour.  19 is 
a ...!@#. 18 is much easier TO work with. ;-) Again thank you.C.A.G. 

On Monday, January 1, 2018 6:55 PM, Okla Mike (Liltwisted) 
 wrote:
 

  That is right, a 4.5 inch pitch when cranked on a 4 turns per inch acme 
thread will give you 18 turns to complete one revolution.  
  Here's what I did.  I clamped a piece of cardboard to the rail to use as a 
pointer and placed it to where I could point at the duplex gear face.  Then on 
the duplex gear I made 19 marks, math was involved. I used a compass to draw a 
6.05" circle. 6.05" X 3.14= a 19 inch circumference.  So then I made a mark 
every inch with a whiteboard marker.  I make my first cut on a mark, crank the 
handle and back it off one mark and rub off that mark.  Repeat and it will give 
you the one extra index per revolution.  If I had to make more than one, I 
would number them and keep track that way.  Could you imagine trying to do this 
job with trying to find a pin and hole set-up?  OK now let's see some cool 
stuff this year. Mike OK
  
 On 1/1/2018 2:41 PM, Bill Bulkeley wrote:
  
 
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{}#yiv8014841988  Mike You got me the closest I can get is 18 divisions using a 
4.5inch pitch 1 crank, not 19 too yearly in the year for my poor old brain you 
will have to enlighten me on this one    Bill      From: 
legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Okla Mike 
(Liltwisted)
 Sent: Tuesday, 2 January 2018 5:59 AM
 To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Congratulations to all and here is your trophy!  You are 
correct that I used the "Crank Handle Indexing"  But what math would you use to 
create 19 indexes? I have no idea how heavy they turned out but I did what I 
could to lessen the load. Mike OK        On 1/1/2018 12:50 PM, 'Curt George' 
via Legacy Ornamental Mills wrote:  
   Very Nice Mike!   I very much like your gear indexing concept... (Just for 
those who have not seen Mike's video... 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHgzEKnON-o=7s )    Now one of these days 
we need to take a better look at the Radio lathe/ wood chuck modifications  
(but that's another topic.)      How heavy are those trophy s ? they are 
huge!     Thanks  for sharing with us Mike.     Happy New Year!    
C.A.G.   On Monday, January 1, 2018 12:38 PM, Okla Mike (Liltwisted) 
 wrote:     Well here is the first post of the year 
with my Wood Chuck.  I have been making many trophy bases over the years that 
have gone in a lot of important events.  Here are two of them.  The Nascar 
Quicktrip 500 and the Arena Football AFL trophys.  We will start with the 500.  
The black part that looks like a tire is what I make. I use a bird 
mouth to assemble then turn it round.  Dyna-glide for scale  You can see 
all I had to do to increase my Wood Chuck to swing 20"then true up 
the ends and glue on the top  then I flush trim, round over the corners and 
put a 14 inch inset for the trophy top  to set.  Ta Da!  Total of about 3 
hours work.  They seem to like it cause they have been having me make them for 
the last 6 years.    Next we have the Arena Football trophy.  I don't have 
as many picture of it though.   Again it is, as you can see, the part they 
painted.  Then they inlaid the flutes with polished metal and then assembled.   
   On this one I just used a 22.5 cut, it's only 7.5" in diameter and was easy 
to control.  But here is the fun part, the flutes! 
 They were supposed to be 5/8" flutes with 5/8 space.  Do the math, it's 19 
indexes.  
 How did I do it??
 I'll leave you with that.  More later
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RE: Congratulations to all and here is your trophy!

[Bill Bulkeley]

I see very clever mike I think I would have just done 18 and had the spaces a 
little wider than the flutes or widen the flutes a little

Very clever your still the man

 

Bill

 

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Okla Mike 
(Liltwisted)
Sent: Tuesday, 2 January 2018 10:56 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Congratulations to all and here is your trophy!

 

That is right, a 4.5 inch pitch when cranked on a 4 turns per inch acme thread 
will give you 18 turns to complete one revolution.  

Here's what I did.  I clamped a piece of cardboard to the rail to use as a 
pointer and placed it to where I could point at the duplex gear face.  Then on 
the duplex gear I made 19 marks, math was involved. I used a compass to draw a 
6.05" circle. 6.05" X 3.14= a 19 inch circumference.  So then I made a mark 
every inch with a whiteboard marker.  I make my first cut on a mark, crank the 
handle and back it off one mark and rub off that mark.  Repeat and it will give 
you the one extra index per revolution.  If I had to make more than one, I 
would number them and keep track that way.  Could you imagine trying to do this 
job with trying to find a pin and hole set-up?  OK now let's see some cool 
stuff this year.

Mike OK

 

On 1/1/2018 2:41 PM, Bill Bulkeley wrote:

Mike

You got me the closest I can get is 18 divisions using a 4.5inch pitch 1 crank, 
not 19 too yearly in the year for my poor old brain you will have to enlighten 
me on this one

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Okla Mike 
(Liltwisted)
Sent: Tuesday, 2 January 2018 5:59 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Congratulations to all and here is your trophy!

 

You are correct that I used the "Crank Handle Indexing"  But what math would 
you use to create 19 indexes?

I have no idea how heavy they turned out but I did what I could to lessen the 
load.

Mike OK

 

 

On 1/1/2018 12:50 PM, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills wrote:

Very Nice Mike!

I very much like your gear indexing concept... (Just for those who have not 
seen Mike's video... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHgzEKnON-o 
 =7s )

 

Now one of these days we need to take a better look at the Radio lathe/ wood 
chuck modifications  (but that's another topic.)  

 

How heavy are those trophy s ? they are huge! 

 

Thanks  for sharing with us Mike.  

Happy New Year!

 

C.A.G.

 

On Monday, January 1, 2018 12:38 PM, Okla Mike (Liltwisted)  
  wrote:

 

Well here is the first post of the year with my Wood Chuck.  I have been making 
many trophy bases over the years that have gone in a lot of important events.  
Here are two of them.  The Nascar Quicktrip 500 and the Arena Football AFL 
trophys.  We will start with the 500.



The black part that looks like a tire is what I make.  

I use a bird mouth to assemble then turn it round.  Dyna-glide for scale



You can see all I had to do to increase my Wood Chuck to swing 20"







then true up the ends and glue on the top



then I flush trim, round over the corners and put a 14 inch inset for the 
trophy top to set.



Ta Da!  Total of about 3 hours work.  They seem to like it cause they have been 
having me make them for the last 6 years.

 

Next we have the Arena Football trophy.  I don't have as many picture of it 
though.

Again it is, as you can see, the part they painted.  Then they inlaid the 
flutes with polished metal and then assembled.



On this one I just used a 22.5 cut, it's only 7.5" in diameter and was easy to 
control.  But here is the fun part, the flutes!




They were supposed to be 5/8" flutes with 5/8 space.  Do the math, it's 19 
indexes.  
How did I do it??
I'll leave you with that.  More later
Mike OK

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Re: Congratulations to all and here is your trophy!

[Okla Mike (Liltwisted)]

That is right, a 4.5 inch pitch when cranked on a 4 turns per inch acme 
thread will give you 18 turns to complete one revolution.


Here's what I did.  I clamped a piece of cardboard to the rail to use as 
a pointer and placed it to where I could point at the duplex gear face.  
Then on the duplex gear I made 19 marks, math was involved. I used a 
compass to draw a 6.05" circle. 6.05" X 3.14= a 19 inch circumference.  
So then I made a mark every inch with a whiteboard marker.  I make my 
first cut on a mark, crank the handle and back it off one mark and rub 
off that mark.  Repeat and it will give you the one extra index per 
revolution.  If I had to make more than one, I would number them and 
keep track that way.  Could you imagine trying to do this job with 
trying to find a pin and hole set-up?  OK now let's see some cool stuff 
this year.


Mike OK


On 1/1/2018 2:41 PM, Bill Bulkeley wrote:


Mike

You got me the closest I can get is 18 divisions using a 4.5inch pitch 
1 crank, not 19 too yearly in the year for my poor old brain you will 
have to enlighten me on this one


Bill

*From:*legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Okla 
Mike (Liltwisted)

*Sent:* Tuesday, 2 January 2018 5:59 AM
*To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* Re: Congratulations to all and here is your trophy!

You are correct that I used the "Crank Handle Indexing"  But what math 
would you use to create 19 indexes?


I have no idea how heavy they turned out but I did what I could to 
lessen the load.


Mike OK

On 1/1/2018 12:50 PM, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills wrote:

Very Nice Mike!

I very much like your gear indexing concept... (Just for those who
have not seen Mike's video...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHgzEKnON-o=7s )

Now one of these days we need to take a better look at the Radio
lathe/ wood chuck modifications  (but that's another topic.)

How heavy are those trophy s ? they are huge!

Thanks for sharing with us Mike.

Happy New Year!

C.A.G.

On Monday, January 1, 2018 12:38 PM, Okla Mike (Liltwisted)
  wrote:

Well here is the first post of the year with my Wood Chuck.  I
have been making many trophy bases over the years that have gone
in a lot of important events.  Here are two of them.  The Nascar
Quicktrip 500 and the Arena Football AFL trophys. We will start
with the 500.

The black part that looks like a tire is what I make.

I use a bird mouth to assemble then turn it round.  Dyna-glide for
scale

You can see all I had to do to increase my Wood Chuck to swing 20"

then true up the ends and glue on the top

then I flush trim, round over the corners and put a 14 inch inset
for the trophy top to set.

Ta Da!  Total of about 3 hours work.  They seem to like it cause
they have been having me make them for the last 6 years.

Next we have the Arena Football trophy.  I don't have as many
picture of it though.

Again it is, as you can see, the part they painted.  Then they
inlaid the flutes with polished metal and then assembled.

On this one I just used a 22.5 cut, it's only 7.5" in diameter and
was easy to control.  But here is the fun part, the flutes!


They were supposed to be 5/8" flutes with 5/8 space.  Do the math,
it's 19 indexes.
How did I do it??
I'll leave you with that.  More later
Mike OK

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RE: Congratulations to all and here is your trophy!

[Bill Bulkeley]

Mike

You got me the closest I can get is 18 divisions using a 4.5inch pitch 1 crank, 
not 19 too yearly in the year for my poor old brain you will have to enlighten 
me on this one

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Okla Mike 
(Liltwisted)
Sent: Tuesday, 2 January 2018 5:59 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Congratulations to all and here is your trophy!

 

You are correct that I used the "Crank Handle Indexing"  But what math would 
you use to create 19 indexes?

I have no idea how heavy they turned out but I did what I could to lessen the 
load.

Mike OK

 

 

On 1/1/2018 12:50 PM, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills wrote:

Very Nice Mike!

I very much like your gear indexing concept... (Just for those who have not 
seen Mike's video... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHgzEKnON-o 
 =7s )

 

Now one of these days we need to take a better look at the Radio lathe/ wood 
chuck modifications  (but that's another topic.)  

 

How heavy are those trophy s ? they are huge! 

 

Thanks  for sharing with us Mike.  

Happy New Year!

 

C.A.G.

 

On Monday, January 1, 2018 12:38 PM, Okla Mike (Liltwisted)  
  wrote:

 

Well here is the first post of the year with my Wood Chuck.  I have been making 
many trophy bases over the years that have gone in a lot of important events.  
Here are two of them.  The Nascar Quicktrip 500 and the Arena Football AFL 
trophys.  We will start with the 500.



The black part that looks like a tire is what I make.  

I use a bird mouth to assemble then turn it round.  Dyna-glide for scale



You can see all I had to do to increase my Wood Chuck to swing 20"







then true up the ends and glue on the top



then I flush trim, round over the corners and put a 14 inch inset for the 
trophy top to set.



Ta Da!  Total of about 3 hours work.  They seem to like it cause they have been 
having me make them for the last 6 years.

 

Next we have the Arena Football trophy.  I don't have as many picture of it 
though.

Again it is, as you can see, the part they painted.  Then they inlaid the 
flutes with polished metal and then assembled.



On this one I just used a 22.5 cut, it's only 7.5" in diameter and was easy to 
control.  But here is the fun part, the flutes!




They were supposed to be 5/8" flutes with 5/8 space.  Do the math, it's 19 
indexes.  
How did I do it??
I'll leave you with that.  More later
Mike OK

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Re: Congratulations to all and here is your trophy!

[Okla Mike (Liltwisted)]

You are correct that I used the "Crank Handle Indexing" But what math 
would you use to create 19 indexes?


I have no idea how heavy they turned out but I did what I could to 
lessen the load.


Mike OK



On 1/1/2018 12:50 PM, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills wrote:

Very Nice Mike!
I very much like your gear indexing concept... (Just for those who 
have not seen Mike's video... 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHgzEKnON-o=7s )


Now one of these days we need to take a better look at the Radio 
lathe/ wood chuck modifications  (but that's another topic.)


How heavy are those trophy s ? they are huge!

Thanks for sharing with us Mike.
Happy New Year!

C.A.G.


On Monday, January 1, 2018 12:38 PM, Okla Mike (Liltwisted) 
 wrote:



Well here is the first post of the year with my Wood Chuck.  I have 
been making many trophy bases over the years that have gone in a lot 
of important events.  Here are two of them.  The Nascar Quicktrip 500 
and the Arena Football AFL trophys.  We will start with the 500.


The black part that looks like a tire is what I make.
I use a bird mouth to assemble then turn it round.  Dyna-glide for scale
You can see all I had to do to increase my Wood Chuck to swing 20"


then true up the ends and glue on the top
then I flush trim, round over the corners and put a 14 inch inset for 
the trophy top to set.
Ta Da!  Total of about 3 hours work.  They seem to like it cause they 
have been having me make them for the last 6 years.


Next we have the Arena Football trophy.  I don't have as many picture 
of it though.
Again it is, as you can see, the part they painted.  Then they inlaid 
the flutes with polished metal and then assembled.
On this one I just used a 22.5 cut, it's only 7.5" in diameter and was 
easy to control.  But here is the fun part, the flutes!


They were supposed to be 5/8" flutes with 5/8 space.  Do the math, 
it's 19 indexes.

How did I do it??
I'll leave you with that.  More later
Mike OK
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