RE: Eccentric milling

2024-05-30 Thread bulkeley
Sorry curt I missed this email the chuck I used in the video is called an orbit 
chuck they used to be made here in Australia 

But sadly are not made any more I bought the last one made they were ahead of 
their time.

 

Bill

 

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 
Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2024 11:49 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Eccentric milling

 

Bill .

 

Who makes that off-set chuck that you use in the video?  

 

C.A.G.

 

On Monday, May 27, 2024 at 09:43:21 PM EDT, mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote: 

 

 

Thanks Curt it was fun to do

 

Bill

 

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > 
Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2024 10:10 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Eccentric milling

 

I am glad you re-posted this Bill.

 

I always liked the skill and craftsmanship you show in this video.

Thank you.

 

C.A.G.

 

On Monday, May 27, 2024 at 07:24:22 PM EDT, bulke...@mmnet.com.au 
<mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au>  mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote: 

 

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZeUVSzVQqus 
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZeUVSzVQqus&ab_channel=aussiman77181> 
&ab_channel=aussiman77181 

 

this came up in an email I received about Eccentric chucks  so I thought I 
would repost this video its been over 2 years since I made this I first saw the 
idea done on a wood lathe so I thought why not do it on the legacy so I did, 
always good to show the many possibilities of our mills.

this was done on the revo model only because the open front is good for 
videoing nothing more, most of my videos were done on a revo for that reason

 

Bill

 

 

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Re: Eccentric milling

2024-05-28 Thread Tim Ziegler
Thanks Curt
Just messing around lol. RnD
Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Tue, May 28, 2024 at 8:16 AM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Now that is Neat! Tim.
> I really like that Horizontal router.
> Keep up the good work.
>
> C.A.G.
>
> On Tuesday, May 28, 2024 at 06:55:57 AM EDT, Tim Ziegler <
> timjzieg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> I kind of like that one though? Hm may have to check that out.
> Kind Regards,
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
> On Tue, May 28, 2024 at 1:40 AM  wrote:
>
> Yea it is not the best I know but there just isn’t much out there in the
> way of eccentric chucks
>
> This is the best I found lately
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jni6Qnth844&t=313s&ab_channel=TokyoCraftsman
>
>
>
>
> https://www.woodworkersemporium.com/shop-by-category/chucks/eccentric-turning/
>
>
>
> seems to be lots of attachments too like a face plate makes it similar to
> my orbit chuck but as always pricy
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 28, 2024 12:49 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: Eccentric milling
>
>
>
> I have the axminster style. I had a smaller piece today I was messing with
> and could change the
>
> eccentric without taking it off but its only about 3 inches in diameter.
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, May 27, 2024 at 9:19 PM  wrote:
>
> Indexing might be a problem you would have to remove it from the chuck to
> index it and there would be no way to set it all running true again because
> its set off centre you really need an  eccentric chuck of some kind to keep
> everything running true and eccentric to the previous cuts AXMINSTER
>
> wakes an ok one the only annoying bit is you have to remove and replace a
> part to index it each time
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *cdkr...@gmail.com
> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 28, 2024 11:55 AM
> *To:* Legacy Ornamental Mills 
> *Subject:* Re: Eccentric milling
>
>
>
> This could be done with a four jaw machinist chuck with independent jaws,
> yes?  I have a small 4" four jaw chuck that will screw right onto the REVO
> drive spindle.  Indexing could be direct on the driven gear ring (factory
> stock) or with my high index count mod. Possibilities get wild with
> templates and bed taper
>
> DanK
>
>
>
> On Monday, May 27, 2024 at 9:48:43 PM UTC-4 Curt George wrote:
>
> Bill .
>
>
>
> Who makes that off-set chuck that you use in the video?
>
>
>
> C.A.G.
>
>
>
> On Monday, May 27, 2024 at 09:43:21 PM EDT,  wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> Thanks Curt it was fun to do
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 28, 2024 10:10 AM
> *To:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: Eccentric milling
>
>
>
> I am glad you re-posted this Bill.
>
>
>
> I always liked the skill and craftsmanship you show in this video.
>
> Thank you.
>
>
>
> C.A.G.
>
>
>
> On Monday, May 27, 2024 at 07:24:22 PM EDT, bulk...@mmnet.com.au <
> bulk...@mmnet.com.au> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZeUVSzVQqus&ab_channel=aussiman77181
>
>
>
> this came up in an email I received about Eccentric chucks  so I thought I
> would repost this video its been over 2 years since I made this I first saw
> the idea done on a wood lathe so I thought why not do it on the legacy so I
> did, always good to show the many possibilities of our mills.
>
> this was done on the revo model only because the open front is good for
> videoing nothing more, most of my videos were done on a revo for that reason
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: Eccentric milling

2024-05-28 Thread 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills
 Now that is Neat! Tim.I really like that Horizontal router.Keep up the good 
work.
C.A.G.
On Tuesday, May 28, 2024 at 06:55:57 AM EDT, Tim Ziegler 
 wrote:  
 
 I kind of like that one though? Hm may have to check that out. 
Kind Regards,
Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & SpecialtyZiegler Laser Worx LLC14171 160th 
Ave.Foreston MN 56330
320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cell

On Tue, May 28, 2024 at 1:40 AM  wrote:


Yea it is not the best I know but there just isn’t much out there in the way of 
eccentric chucks 

This is the best I found lately 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jni6Qnth844&t=313s&ab_channel=TokyoCraftsman

 

https://www.woodworkersemporium.com/shop-by-category/chucks/eccentric-turning/

 

seems to be lots of attachments too like a face plate makes it similar to my 
orbit chuck but as always pricy 

 

Bill

 

 

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2024 12:49 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Eccentric milling

 

I have the axminster style. I had a smaller piece today I was messing with and 
could change the 

eccentric without taking it off but its only about 3 inches in diameter.




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

Ziegler Laser Worx LLC

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Mon, May 27, 2024 at 9:19 PM  wrote:


Indexing might be a problem you would have to remove it from the chuck to index 
it and there would be no way to set it all running true again because its set 
off centre you really need an  eccentric chuck of some kind to keep everything 
running true and eccentric to the previous cuts AXMINSTER

wakes an ok one the only annoying bit is you have to remove and replace a part 
to index it each time

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of cdkr...@gmail.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2024 11:55 AM
To: Legacy Ornamental Mills 
Subject: Re: Eccentric milling

 

This could be done with a four jaw machinist chuck with independent jaws, yes?  
I have a small 4" four jaw chuck that will screw right onto the REVO drive 
spindle.  Indexing could be direct on the driven gear ring (factory stock) or 
with my high index count mod. Possibilities get wild with templates and bed 
taper

DanK

 

On Monday, May 27, 2024 at 9:48:43 PM UTC-4 Curt George wrote:


Bill .

 

Who makes that off-set chuck that you use in the video?  

 

C.A.G.

 

On Monday, May 27, 2024 at 09:43:21 PM EDT,  wrote: 

 

 

Thanks Curt it was fun to do

 

Bill

 

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 
Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2024 10:10 AM
To: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Eccentric milling

 

I am glad you re-posted this Bill.

 

I always liked the skill and craftsmanship you show in this video.

Thank you.

 

C.A.G.

 

On Monday, May 27, 2024 at 07:24:22 PM EDT, bulk...@mmnet.com.au 
 wrote: 

 

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZeUVSzVQqus&ab_channel=aussiman77181 

 

this came up in an email I received about Eccentric chucks  so I thought I 
would repost this video its been over 2 years since I made this I first saw the 
idea done on a wood lathe so I thought why not do it on the legacy so I did, 
always good to show the many possibilities of our mills.

this was done on the revo model only because the open front is good for 
videoing nothing more, most of my videos were done on a revo for that reason

 

Bill

 

 

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Re: Eccentric milling

2024-05-28 Thread Tim Ziegler
I kind of like that one though? Hm may have to check that out.
Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Tue, May 28, 2024 at 1:40 AM  wrote:

> Yea it is not the best I know but there just isn’t much out there in the
> way of eccentric chucks
>
> This is the best I found lately
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jni6Qnth844&t=313s&ab_channel=TokyoCraftsman
>
>
>
>
> https://www.woodworkersemporium.com/shop-by-category/chucks/eccentric-turning/
>
>
>
> seems to be lots of attachments too like a face plate makes it similar to
> my orbit chuck but as always pricy
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 28, 2024 12:49 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: Eccentric milling
>
>
>
> I have the axminster style. I had a smaller piece today I was messing with
> and could change the
>
> eccentric without taking it off but its only about 3 inches in diameter.
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, May 27, 2024 at 9:19 PM  wrote:
>
> Indexing might be a problem you would have to remove it from the chuck to
> index it and there would be no way to set it all running true again because
> its set off centre you really need an  eccentric chuck of some kind to keep
> everything running true and eccentric to the previous cuts AXMINSTER
>
> wakes an ok one the only annoying bit is you have to remove and replace a
> part to index it each time
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *cdkr...@gmail.com
> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 28, 2024 11:55 AM
> *To:* Legacy Ornamental Mills 
> *Subject:* Re: Eccentric milling
>
>
>
> This could be done with a four jaw machinist chuck with independent jaws,
> yes?  I have a small 4" four jaw chuck that will screw right onto the REVO
> drive spindle.  Indexing could be direct on the driven gear ring (factory
> stock) or with my high index count mod. Possibilities get wild with
> templates and bed taper
>
> DanK
>
>
>
> On Monday, May 27, 2024 at 9:48:43 PM UTC-4 Curt George wrote:
>
> Bill .
>
>
>
> Who makes that off-set chuck that you use in the video?
>
>
>
> C.A.G.
>
>
>
> On Monday, May 27, 2024 at 09:43:21 PM EDT,  wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> Thanks Curt it was fun to do
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 28, 2024 10:10 AM
> *To:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: Eccentric milling
>
>
>
> I am glad you re-posted this Bill.
>
>
>
> I always liked the skill and craftsmanship you show in this video.
>
> Thank you.
>
>
>
> C.A.G.
>
>
>
> On Monday, May 27, 2024 at 07:24:22 PM EDT, bulk...@mmnet.com.au <
> bulk...@mmnet.com.au> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZeUVSzVQqus&ab_channel=aussiman77181
>
>
>
> this came up in an email I received about Eccentric chucks  so I thought I
> would repost this video its been over 2 years since I made this I first saw
> the idea done on a wood lathe so I thought why not do it on the legacy so I
> did, always good to show the many possibilities of our mills.
>
> this was done on the revo model only because the open front is good for
> videoing nothing more, most of my videos were done on a revo for that reason
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
>
>
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RE: Eccentric milling

2024-05-27 Thread bulkeley
Yea it is not the best I know but there just isn’t much out there in the way of 
eccentric chucks 

This is the best I found lately https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jni6Qnth844 
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jni6Qnth844&t=313s&ab_channel=TokyoCraftsman> 
&t=313s&ab_channel=TokyoCraftsman

 

https://www.woodworkersemporium.com/shop-by-category/chucks/eccentric-turning/

 

seems to be lots of attachments too like a face plate makes it similar to my 
orbit chuck but as always pricy 

 

Bill

 

 

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2024 12:49 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Eccentric milling

 

I have the axminster style. I had a smaller piece today I was messing with and 
could change the 

eccentric without taking it off but its only about 3 inches in diameter.




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

Ziegler Laser Worx LLC

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Mon, May 27, 2024 at 9:19 PM mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote:

Indexing might be a problem you would have to remove it from the chuck to index 
it and there would be no way to set it all running true again because its set 
off centre you really need an  eccentric chuck of some kind to keep everything 
running true and eccentric to the previous cuts AXMINSTER

wakes an ok one the only annoying bit is you have to remove and replace a part 
to index it each time

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
cdkr...@gmail.com <mailto:cdkr...@gmail.com> 
Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2024 11:55 AM
To: Legacy Ornamental Mills mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> >
Subject: Re: Eccentric milling

 

This could be done with a four jaw machinist chuck with independent jaws, yes?  
I have a small 4" four jaw chuck that will screw right onto the REVO drive 
spindle.  Indexing could be direct on the driven gear ring (factory stock) or 
with my high index count mod. Possibilities get wild with templates and bed 
taper

DanK

 

On Monday, May 27, 2024 at 9:48:43 PM UTC-4 Curt George wrote:

Bill .

 

Who makes that off-set chuck that you use in the video?  

 

C.A.G.

 

On Monday, May 27, 2024 at 09:43:21 PM EDT, mailto:bulk...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote: 

 

 

Thanks Curt it was fun to do

 

Bill

 

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
mailto:legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com> > 
Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2024 10:10 AM
To: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com <mailto:legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Eccentric milling

 

I am glad you re-posted this Bill.

 

I always liked the skill and craftsmanship you show in this video.

Thank you.

 

C.A.G.

 

On Monday, May 27, 2024 at 07:24:22 PM EDT, bulk...@mmnet.com.au 
<mailto:bulk...@mmnet.com.au>  mailto:bulk...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote: 

 

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZeUVSzVQqus 
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZeUVSzVQqus&ab_channel=aussiman77181> 
&ab_channel=aussiman77181 

 

this came up in an email I received about Eccentric chucks  so I thought I 
would repost this video its been over 2 years since I made this I first saw the 
idea done on a wood lathe so I thought why not do it on the legacy so I did, 
always good to show the many possibilities of our mills.

this was done on the revo model only because the open front is good for 
videoing nothing more, most of my videos were done on a revo for that reason

 

Bill

 

 

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RE: Eccentric milling

2024-05-27 Thread bulkeley
Ok sounds good pics are always good

 

Bill

 

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Subject: Re: Eccentric milling

 

Thanks Bill yeah this was great thats actually what I worked on today. 

Trying to figure things out. I did not get where I wanted to go. But I was 

more interested in the end grain. Spirals. I will post some pics.




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

Ziegler Laser Worx LLC

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Foreston MN 56330

 

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On Mon, May 27, 2024 at 6:24 PM mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZeUVSzVQqus 
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZeUVSzVQqus&ab_channel=aussiman77181> 
&ab_channel=aussiman77181 

 

this came up in an email I received about Eccentric chucks  so I thought I 
would repost this video its been over 2 years since I made this I first saw the 
idea done on a wood lathe so I thought why not do it on the legacy so I did, 
always good to show the many possibilities of our mills.

this was done on the revo model only because the open front is good for 
videoing nothing more, most of my videos were done on a revo for that reason

 

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Re: Eccentric milling

2024-05-27 Thread Tim Ziegler
Thanks for sharing those Bill.

Kind Regards,

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On Mon, May 27, 2024 at 9:35 PM  wrote:

>
>
> This was a project for me so I didn’t take many pics but I did find these
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *M.W.Foscue
> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 28, 2024 12:12 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: Eccentric milling
>
>
>
> Bill,
>
>
>
> Nice video - thanks for sharing!
>
> Now - if you will just post a photo or two of the finished product.
>
>
>
> Thanks.
>
> Mac
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> Subject: Eccentric milling
>
>
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZeUVSzVQqus&ab_channel=aussiman77181
>
>
>
> this came up in an email I received about Eccentric chucks  so I thought I
> would repost this video its been over 2 years since I made this I first saw
> the idea done on a wood lathe so I thought why not do it on the legacy so I
> did, always good to show the many possibilities of our mills.
>
> this was done on the revo model only because the open front is good for
> videoing nothing more, most of my videos were done on a revo for that reason
>
>
>
> Bill
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Re: Eccentric milling

2024-05-27 Thread Tim Ziegler
I have the axminster style. I had a smaller piece today I was messing with
and could change the
eccentric without taking it off but its only about 3 inches in diameter.

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On Mon, May 27, 2024 at 9:19 PM  wrote:

> Indexing might be a problem you would have to remove it from the chuck to
> index it and there would be no way to set it all running true again because
> its set off centre you really need an  eccentric chuck of some kind to keep
> everything running true and eccentric to the previous cuts AXMINSTER
>
> wakes an ok one the only annoying bit is you have to remove and replace a
> part to index it each time
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *cdkr...@gmail.com
> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 28, 2024 11:55 AM
> *To:* Legacy Ornamental Mills 
> *Subject:* Re: Eccentric milling
>
>
>
> This could be done with a four jaw machinist chuck with independent jaws,
> yes?  I have a small 4" four jaw chuck that will screw right onto the REVO
> drive spindle.  Indexing could be direct on the driven gear ring (factory
> stock) or with my high index count mod. Possibilities get wild with
> templates and bed taper
>
> DanK
>
>
>
> On Monday, May 27, 2024 at 9:48:43 PM UTC-4 Curt George wrote:
>
> Bill .
>
>
>
> Who makes that off-set chuck that you use in the video?
>
>
>
> C.A.G.
>
>
>
> On Monday, May 27, 2024 at 09:43:21 PM EDT,  wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> Thanks Curt it was fun to do
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 28, 2024 10:10 AM
> *To:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: Eccentric milling
>
>
>
> I am glad you re-posted this Bill.
>
>
>
> I always liked the skill and craftsmanship you show in this video.
>
> Thank you.
>
>
>
> C.A.G.
>
>
>
> On Monday, May 27, 2024 at 07:24:22 PM EDT, bulk...@mmnet.com.au <
> bulk...@mmnet.com.au> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZeUVSzVQqus&ab_channel=aussiman77181
>
>
>
> this came up in an email I received about Eccentric chucks  so I thought I
> would repost this video its been over 2 years since I made this I first saw
> the idea done on a wood lathe so I thought why not do it on the legacy so I
> did, always good to show the many possibilities of our mills.
>
> this was done on the revo model only because the open front is good for
> videoing nothing more, most of my videos were done on a revo for that reason
>
>
>
> Bill
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>
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Re: Eccentric milling

2024-05-27 Thread Tim Ziegler
Hey I would like to see some of that done that way too.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
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Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
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On Mon, May 27, 2024 at 8:55 PM cdkr...@gmail.com 
wrote:

> This could be done with a four jaw machinist chuck with independent jaws,
> yes?  I have a small 4" four jaw chuck that will screw right onto the REVO
> drive spindle.  Indexing could be direct on the driven gear ring (factory
> stock) or with my high index count mod. Possibilities get wild with
> templates and bed taper
> DanK
>
> On Monday, May 27, 2024 at 9:48:43 PM UTC-4 Curt George wrote:
>
>> Bill .
>>
>> Who makes that off-set chuck that you use in the video?
>>
>> C.A.G.
>>
>> On Monday, May 27, 2024 at 09:43:21 PM EDT, 
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Thanks Curt it was fun to do
>>
>>
>>
>> Bill
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
>> legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com>
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 28, 2024 10:10 AM
>> *To:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com
>> *Subject:* Re: Eccentric milling
>>
>>
>>
>> I am glad you re-posted this Bill.
>>
>>
>>
>> I always liked the skill and craftsmanship you show in this video.
>>
>> Thank you.
>>
>>
>>
>> C.A.G.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Monday, May 27, 2024 at 07:24:22 PM EDT, bulk...@mmnet.com.au <
>> bulk...@mmnet.com.au> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZeUVSzVQqus&ab_channel=aussiman77181
>>
>>
>>
>> this came up in an email I received about Eccentric chucks  so I thought
>> I would repost this video its been over 2 years since I made this I first
>> saw the idea done on a wood lathe so I thought why not do it on the legacy
>> so I did, always good to show the many possibilities of our mills.
>>
>> this was done on the revo model only because the open front is good for
>> videoing nothing more, most of my videos were done on a revo for that reason
>>
>>
>>
>> Bill
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Re: Eccentric milling

2024-05-27 Thread Tim Ziegler
Thanks Bill yeah this was great thats actually what I worked on today.
Trying to figure things out. I did not get where I wanted to go. But I was
more interested in the end grain. Spirals. I will post some pics.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
14171 160th Ave.
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320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Mon, May 27, 2024 at 6:24 PM  wrote:

> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZeUVSzVQqus&ab_channel=aussiman77181
>
>
>
> this came up in an email I received about Eccentric chucks  so I thought I
> would repost this video its been over 2 years since I made this I first saw
> the idea done on a wood lathe so I thought why not do it on the legacy so I
> did, always good to show the many possibilities of our mills.
>
> this was done on the revo model only because the open front is good for
> videoing nothing more, most of my videos were done on a revo for that reason
>
>
>
> Bill
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RE: Eccentric milling

2024-05-27 Thread bulkeley
Indexing might be a problem you would have to remove it from the chuck to index 
it and there would be no way to set it all running true again because its set 
off centre you really need an  eccentric chuck of some kind to keep everything 
running true and eccentric to the previous cuts AXMINSTER

wakes an ok one the only annoying bit is you have to remove and replace a part 
to index it each time

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of cdkr...@gmail.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2024 11:55 AM
To: Legacy Ornamental Mills 
Subject: Re: Eccentric milling

 

This could be done with a four jaw machinist chuck with independent jaws, yes?  
I have a small 4" four jaw chuck that will screw right onto the REVO drive 
spindle.  Indexing could be direct on the driven gear ring (factory stock) or 
with my high index count mod. Possibilities get wild with templates and bed 
taper

DanK

 

On Monday, May 27, 2024 at 9:48:43 PM UTC-4 Curt George wrote:

Bill .

 

Who makes that off-set chuck that you use in the video?  

 

C.A.G.

 

On Monday, May 27, 2024 at 09:43:21 PM EDT, mailto:bulk...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote: 

 

 

Thanks Curt it was fun to do

 

Bill

 

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
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Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2024 10:10 AM
To: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com <mailto:legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Eccentric milling

 

I am glad you re-posted this Bill.

 

I always liked the skill and craftsmanship you show in this video.

Thank you.

 

C.A.G.

 

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZeUVSzVQqus 
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZeUVSzVQqus&ab_channel=aussiman77181> 
&ab_channel=aussiman77181 

 

this came up in an email I received about Eccentric chucks  so I thought I 
would repost this video its been over 2 years since I made this I first saw the 
idea done on a wood lathe so I thought why not do it on the legacy so I did, 
always good to show the many possibilities of our mills.

this was done on the revo model only because the open front is good for 
videoing nothing more, most of my videos were done on a revo for that reason

 

Bill

 

 

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Re: Eccentric milling

2024-05-27 Thread M.W.Foscue
Bill,

Nice video - thanks for sharing!
Now - if you will just post a photo or two of the finished product.

Thanks.
Mac
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZeUVSzVQqus&ab_channel=aussiman77181 
 
this came up in an email I received about Eccentric chucks  so I thought I 
would repost this video its been over 2 years since I made this I first saw the 
idea done on a wood lathe so I thought why not do it on the legacy so I did, 
always good to show the many possibilities of our mills.
this was done on the revo model only because the open front is good for 
videoing nothing more, most of my videos were done on a revo for that reason
 
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Re: Eccentric milling

2024-05-27 Thread cdkr...@gmail.com
This could be done with a four jaw machinist chuck with independent jaws, 
yes?  I have a small 4" four jaw chuck that will screw right onto the REVO 
drive spindle.  Indexing could be direct on the driven gear ring (factory 
stock) or with my high index count mod. Possibilities get wild with 
templates and bed taper
DanK

On Monday, May 27, 2024 at 9:48:43 PM UTC-4 Curt George wrote:

> Bill .
>
> Who makes that off-set chuck that you use in the video?  
>
> C.A.G.
>
> On Monday, May 27, 2024 at 09:43:21 PM EDT,  wrote: 
>
>
> Thanks Curt it was fun to do
>
>  
>
> Bill
>
>  
>
> *From:* 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com> 
> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 28, 2024 10:10 AM
> *To:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: Eccentric milling
>
>  
>
> I am glad you re-posted this Bill.
>
>  
>
> I always liked the skill and craftsmanship you show in this video.
>
> Thank you.
>
>  
>
> C.A.G.
>
>  
>
> On Monday, May 27, 2024 at 07:24:22 PM EDT, bulk...@mmnet.com.au <
> bulk...@mmnet.com.au> wrote: 
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>
>  
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZeUVSzVQqus&ab_channel=aussiman77181 
>
>  
>
> this came up in an email I received about Eccentric chucks  so I thought I 
> would repost this video its been over 2 years since I made this I first saw 
> the idea done on a wood lathe so I thought why not do it on the legacy so I 
> did, always good to show the many possibilities of our mills.
>
> this was done on the revo model only because the open front is good for 
> videoing nothing more, most of my videos were done on a revo for that reason
>
>  
>
> Bill
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Re: Eccentric milling

2024-05-27 Thread 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills
 Bill .
Who makes that off-set chuck that you use in the video?  
C.A.G.
On Monday, May 27, 2024 at 09:43:21 PM EDT,  wrote:  
 
 
Thanks Curt it was fun to do

  

Bill

  

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 
Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2024 10:10 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Eccentric milling

  

I am glad you re-posted this Bill.

  

I always liked the skill and craftsmanship you show in this video.

Thank you.

  

C.A.G.

  

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZeUVSzVQqus&ab_channel=aussiman77181 

 

this came up in an email I received about Eccentric chucks  so I thought I 
would repost this video its been over 2 years since I made this I first saw the 
idea done on a wood lathe so I thought why not do it on the legacy so I did, 
always good to show the many possibilities of our mills.

this was done on the revo model only because the open front is good for 
videoing nothing more, most of my videos were done on a revo for that reason

 

Bill

 

 

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RE: Eccentric milling

2024-05-27 Thread bulkeley
Thanks Curt it was fun to do

 

Bill

 

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 
Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2024 10:10 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Eccentric milling

 

I am glad you re-posted this Bill.

 

I always liked the skill and craftsmanship you show in this video.

Thank you.

 

C.A.G.

 

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZeUVSzVQqus 
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZeUVSzVQqus&ab_channel=aussiman77181> 
&ab_channel=aussiman77181 

 

this came up in an email I received about Eccentric chucks  so I thought I 
would repost this video its been over 2 years since I made this I first saw the 
idea done on a wood lathe so I thought why not do it on the legacy so I did, 
always good to show the many possibilities of our mills.

this was done on the revo model only because the open front is good for 
videoing nothing more, most of my videos were done on a revo for that reason

 

Bill

 

 

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Re: Eccentric milling

2024-05-27 Thread 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills
 I am glad you re-posted this Bill.
I always liked the skill and craftsmanship you show in this video.Thank you.
C.A.G.
On Monday, May 27, 2024 at 07:24:22 PM EDT, bulke...@mmnet.com.au 
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZeUVSzVQqus&ab_channel=aussiman77181 

  

this came up in an email I received about Eccentric chucks  so I thought I 
would repost this video its been over 2 years since I made this I first saw the 
idea done on a wood lathe so I thought why not do it on the legacy so I did, 
always good to show the many possibilities of our mills.

this was done on the revo model only because the open front is good for 
videoing nothing more, most of my videos were done on a revo for that reason

  

Bill

  

  
 

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Eccentric milling

2024-05-27 Thread bulkeley
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZeUVSzVQqus

&ab_channel=aussiman77181 

 

this came up in an email I received about Eccentric chucks  so I thought I
would repost this video its been over 2 years since I made this I first saw
the idea done on a wood lathe so I thought why not do it on the legacy so I
did, always good to show the many possibilities of our mills.

this was done on the revo model only because the open front is good for
videoing nothing more, most of my videos were done on a revo for that reason

 

Bill

 

 

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Re: eccentric milling

2023-11-24 Thread Tim Ziegler
Yeah I recall you talking about not having to remove the chuck to make
adjustments.
I have to look at directions on all the different things I can do and how
to adjust it.
I watched your videos again too so now I have an idea of what I should
experiment with.
Was making Rosettes last night.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
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On Fri, Nov 24, 2023 at 7:33 AM  wrote:

>
>
> I remember that eccentric chuck you have nice and strong all steel wasn’t
> it ? but I think I like this one I found a little better
>
> it seems to cover a larger amount of offset and indexes finer but its
> aluminium not steel if I had to choose I think I would
>
> go with the JOYNER OFF-CENTER JIG just my opinion , but the orbit chuck I
> have is a much superior jig than both
>
> you don’t even have to remove it to change the offset or the indexing and
> its all steel as well such a shame they are no longer made
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Friday, November 24, 2023 11:26 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: eccentric milling
>
>
>
> Good stuff Bill,
>
> and thanks for sharing. I have an to that I bought through Crafts Supplies
> USA.
>
> Around the same price. I will try to post that link as well. I have not
> done anything with it yet but
>
> during one of my tooling up times I picked it up. Seems to me it was only
> around $140.00 too.
>
> So I added the link to mine chuck too. I best give it a try now after
> watching your video Bill.
>
>
> https://www.woodturnerscatalog.com/p/183/1523/axminster-Eccentric-Chuck-System
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Nov 24, 2023 at 2:19 AM  wrote:
>
> Hey guys remember my eccentric milling using my orbit chuck
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZeUVSzVQqus&ab_channel=aussiman77181
>
>
>
> Well I was looking on the net today and found this
> https://nilesbottlestoppers.com/product/joyner-off-set-complete-kit/
>
> It is a bit different but does the same thing so now  everyone can now do
> it too with this jig, I remember members asking me where they could get a
> chuck like mine I hadn’t forgotten so here it is the best I have found so
> far its made for pendants and such but I cant see why it wont work on the
> legacy
>
> Here is Carl Jacobson showing how it works
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bkzlkYxoJ5s&ab_channel=NilesBottleStoppers
>
> Not too expensive either I didn’t think.
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
>
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RE: eccentric milling

2023-11-24 Thread bulkeley
 

I remember that eccentric chuck you have nice and strong all steel wasn’t it ? 
but I think I like this one I found a little better

it seems to cover a larger amount of offset and indexes finer but its aluminium 
not steel if I had to choose I think I would

go with the JOYNER OFF-CENTER JIG just my opinion , but the orbit chuck I have 
is a much superior jig than both

you don’t even have to remove it to change the offset or the indexing and its 
all steel as well such a shame they are no longer made

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Friday, November 24, 2023 11:26 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: eccentric milling

 

Good stuff Bill, 

and thanks for sharing. I have an to that I bought through Crafts Supplies USA. 

Around the same price. I will try to post that link as well. I have not done 
anything with it yet but 

during one of my tooling up times I picked it up. Seems to me it was only 
around $140.00 too. 

So I added the link to mine chuck too. I best give it a try now after watching 
your video Bill.

https://www.woodturnerscatalog.com/p/183/1523/axminster-Eccentric-Chuck-System




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

Ziegler Laser Worx LLC

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Fri, Nov 24, 2023 at 2:19 AM mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote:

Hey guys remember my eccentric milling using my orbit chuck 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZeUVSzVQqus 
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZeUVSzVQqus&ab_channel=aussiman77181> 
&ab_channel=aussiman77181

 

Well I was looking on the net today and found this 
https://nilesbottlestoppers.com/product/joyner-off-set-complete-kit/

It is a bit different but does the same thing so now  everyone can now do it 
too with this jig, I remember members asking me where they could get a chuck 
like mine I hadn’t forgotten so here it is the best I have found so far its 
made for pendants and such but I cant see why it wont work on the legacy

Here is Carl Jacobson showing how it works 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bkzlkYxoJ5s 
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bkzlkYxoJ5s&ab_channel=NilesBottleStoppers> 
&ab_channel=NilesBottleStoppers

Not too expensive either I didn’t think.

 

Bill

 

 

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Re: eccentric milling

2023-11-24 Thread Tim Ziegler
Good stuff Bill,
and thanks for sharing. I have an eccentric chuck to that I bought through
Crafts Supplies USA.
Around the same price. I will try to post that link as well. I have not
done anything with it yet but
during one of my tooling up times I picked it up. Seems to me it was only
around $140.00 too.
So I added the link to mine chuck too. I best give it a try now after
watching your video Bill.
https://www.woodturnerscatalog.com/p/183/1523/axminster-Eccentric-Chuck-System

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Fri, Nov 24, 2023 at 2:19 AM  wrote:

> Hey guys remember my eccentric milling using my orbit chuck
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZeUVSzVQqus&ab_channel=aussiman77181
>
>
>
> Well I was looking on the net today and found this
> https://nilesbottlestoppers.com/product/joyner-off-set-complete-kit/
>
> It is a bit different but does the same thing so now  everyone can now do
> it too with this jig, I remember members asking me where they could get a
> chuck like mine I hadn’t forgotten so here it is the best I have found so
> far its made for pendants and such but I cant see why it wont work on the
> legacy
>
> Here is Carl Jacobson showing how it works
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bkzlkYxoJ5s&ab_channel=NilesBottleStoppers
>
> Not too expensive either I didn’t think.
>
>
>
> Bill
>
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eccentric milling

2023-11-24 Thread bulkeley
Hey guys remember my eccentric milling using my orbit chuck
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZeUVSzVQqus
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZeUVSzVQqus&ab_channel=aussiman77181>
&ab_channel=aussiman77181

 

Well I was looking on the net today and found this
https://nilesbottlestoppers.com/product/joyner-off-set-complete-kit/

It is a bit different but does the same thing so now  everyone can now do it
too with this jig, I remember members asking me where they could get a chuck
like mine I hadn't forgotten so here it is the best I have found so far its
made for pendants and such but I cant see why it wont work on the legacy

Here is Carl Jacobson showing how it works
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bkzlkYxoJ5s
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bkzlkYxoJ5s&ab_channel=NilesBottleStoppers>
&ab_channel=NilesBottleStoppers

Not too expensive either I didn't think.

 

Bill

 

 

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Re: milling

2023-02-03 Thread 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills
 I got a reply to my comments. 
They were.  

| Couple of BunkysOk thanks!
;-)C.A.G. |


On Friday, February 3, 2023 at 09:28:18 PM EST, Tim Ziegler 
 wrote:  
 
 Thanks Tim for jumping in. I agree with you. I think Bill and I both commented 
on your youtube.
Kind Regards,
Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & Specialty14171 160th Ave.Foreston MN 56330
320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cell

On Fri, Feb 3, 2023 at 11:23 AM Tim Woodard  wrote:

Hey guys I'm sitting back here lurking and reading all the comment if you're 
really interested in helping us out leave these comments inside of our comments 
on the video This helps with engagement on the video and can get the video seen 
by more people
On Fri, Feb 3, 2023, 8:41 AM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 wrote:

 Good morning everyone.
Tim I agree 100%, Hats off to anyone who wants to try and show others something 
that they can do. I cant wait to see the next video.
C.A.G.
On Friday, February 3, 2023 at 06:48:02 AM EST, Tim Ziegler 
 wrote:  
 
 For sure, it took me a long time to get those things in my head. Hats of to 
him for trying.
Kind Regards,
Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & Specialty14171 160th Ave.Foreston MN 56330
320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cell

On Fri, Feb 3, 2023 at 1:58 AM  wrote:


He is new and as he wants a better and better job im sure he will ask questions 
and we can help

I did leave a comment during and after asking for more info on what he is doing 
like what bits and what pitches

He is using and he needs to learn the difference between a rope bit and a 
barley bit 

But we all had to learn right

 

Bill

 

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 
Sent: Friday, 3 February 2023 4:27 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: milling

 

Hey Bill.

 

My Mom use to tell me, "If you cant say something nice, Don't say anything at 
all". 

 

You are right about the camera angle. being a novel approach, One that I never 
though of trying.

 

There were quite of few suggestion that I would like to make While watching 
this video, In order to help this person get the most out of his Legacy. Simple 
little things, like plaining off the corners before you try to use the 
spiral/lead screw. Turning the headstock by hand/lever handle, and moving the 
Carriage by hand, to make the spindle round. Also, Making the spindle round 
first, so the spindle dose not have a flat spot, before you try to turn...  
(there are more, but I will stop there.) 

Over all I like the attempt, Perhaps his videos will bring in more people, to 
start using the Legacy? We can ONLY Hope. ;-)

 

Thanks for sharing this.

 

Have a good day.

C.A.G. 

 

On Thursday, February 2, 2023 at 06:43:29 PM EST, bulke...@mmnet.com.au 
 wrote: 

 

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Zy8Ll7FSM0&ab_channel=CoupleofBunkys

 

just watched this comments ?

 

needs a bit of info like bits used and pitches I think great camera angle 

 

Bill

 

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Re: milling

2023-02-03 Thread Tim Ziegler
Thanks Tim for jumping in. I agree with you. I think Bill and I both
commented on your youtube.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Fri, Feb 3, 2023 at 11:23 AM Tim Woodard  wrote:

> Hey guys I'm sitting back here lurking and reading all the comment if
> you're really interested in helping us out leave these comments inside of
> our comments on the video This helps with engagement on the video and can
> get the video seen by more people
>
> On Fri, Feb 3, 2023, 8:41 AM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>> Good morning everyone.
>>
>> Tim I agree 100%, Hats off to anyone who wants to try and show others
>> something that they can do. I cant wait to see the next video.
>>
>> C.A.G.
>>
>> On Friday, February 3, 2023 at 06:48:02 AM EST, Tim Ziegler <
>> timjzieg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> For sure, it took me a long time to get those things in my head. Hats of
>> to him for trying.
>>
>> Kind Regards,
>>
>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>> 14171 160th Ave.
>> Foreston MN 56330
>>
>> 320-294-5798 shop
>> 320-630-2243 cell
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 3, 2023 at 1:58 AM  wrote:
>>
>> He is new and as he wants a better and better job im sure he will ask
>> questions and we can help
>>
>> I did leave a comment during and after asking for more info on what he is
>> doing like what bits and what pitches
>>
>> He is using and he needs to learn the difference between a rope bit and a
>> barley bit
>>
>> But we all had to learn right
>>
>>
>>
>> Bill
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
>> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>
>> *Sent:* Friday, 3 February 2023 4:27 PM
>> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
>> *Subject:* Re: milling
>>
>>
>>
>> Hey Bill.
>>
>>
>>
>> My Mom use to tell me, "If you cant say something nice, Don't say
>> anything at all".
>>
>>
>>
>> You are right about the camera angle. being a novel approach, One that I
>> never though of trying.
>>
>>
>>
>> There were quite of few suggestion that I would like to make While
>> watching this video, In order to help this person get the most out of his
>> Legacy. Simple little things, like plaining off the corners before you try
>> to use the spiral/lead screw. Turning the headstock by hand/lever handle,
>> and moving the Carriage by hand, to make the spindle round. Also, Making
>> the spindle round first, so the spindle dose not have a flat spot, before
>> you try to turn...  (there are more, but I will stop there.)
>>
>> Over all I like the attempt, Perhaps his videos will bring in more
>> people, to start using the Legacy? We can ONLY Hope. ;-)
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks for sharing this.
>>
>>
>>
>> Have a good day.
>>
>> C.A.G.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, February 2, 2023 at 06:43:29 PM EST, bulke...@mmnet.com.au <
>> bulke...@mmnet.com.au> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Zy8Ll7FSM0&ab_channel=CoupleofBunkys
>>
>>
>>
>> just watched this comments ?
>>
>>
>>
>> needs a bit of info like bits used and pitches I think great camera angle
>>
>>
>>
>> Bill
>>
>>
>>
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RE: milling

2023-02-03 Thread bulkeley
I did and I will continue to do so on each video you do, and please come on 
here and ask us any thing you wish to know as well

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Tim Woodard
Sent: Saturday, 4 February 2023 4:24 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: milling

 

Hey guys I'm sitting back here lurking and reading all the comment if you're 
really interested in helping us out leave these comments inside of our comments 
on the video This helps with engagement on the video and can get the video seen 
by more people

 

On Fri, Feb 3, 2023, 8:41 AM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > wrote:

Good morning everyone.

 

Tim I agree 100%, Hats off to anyone who wants to try and show others something 
that they can do. I cant wait to see the next video.

 

C.A.G.

 

On Friday, February 3, 2023 at 06:48:02 AM EST, Tim Ziegler 
mailto:timjzieg...@gmail.com> > wrote: 

 

 

For sure, it took me a long time to get those things in my head. Hats of to him 
for trying.




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Fri, Feb 3, 2023 at 1:58 AM mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote:

He is new and as he wants a better and better job im sure he will ask questions 
and we can help

I did leave a comment during and after asking for more info on what he is doing 
like what bits and what pitches

He is using and he needs to learn the difference between a rope bit and a 
barley bit 

But we all had to learn right

 

Bill

 

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > 
Sent: Friday, 3 February 2023 4:27 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: milling

 

Hey Bill.

 

My Mom use to tell me, "If you cant say something nice, Don't say anything at 
all". 

 

You are right about the camera angle. being a novel approach, One that I never 
though of trying.

 

There were quite of few suggestion that I would like to make While watching 
this video, In order to help this person get the most out of his Legacy. Simple 
little things, like plaining off the corners before you try to use the 
spiral/lead screw. Turning the headstock by hand/lever handle, and moving the 
Carriage by hand, to make the spindle round. Also, Making the spindle round 
first, so the spindle dose not have a flat spot, before you try to turn...  
(there are more, but I will stop there.) 

Over all I like the attempt, Perhaps his videos will bring in more people, to 
start using the Legacy? We can ONLY Hope. ;-)

 

Thanks for sharing this.

 

Have a good day.

C.A.G. 

 

On Thursday, February 2, 2023 at 06:43:29 PM EST, bulke...@mmnet.com.au 
<mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au>  mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote: 

 

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Zy8Ll7FSM0 
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Zy8Ll7FSM0&ab_channel=CoupleofBunkys> 
&ab_channel=CoupleofBunkys

 

just watched this comments ?

 

needs a bit of info like bits used and pitches I think great camera angle 

 

Bill

 

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Re: milling

2023-02-03 Thread Tim Ziegler
exactly.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Fri, Feb 3, 2023 at 7:41 AM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Good morning everyone.
>
> Tim I agree 100%, Hats off to anyone who wants to try and show others
> something that they can do. I cant wait to see the next video.
>
> C.A.G.
>
> On Friday, February 3, 2023 at 06:48:02 AM EST, Tim Ziegler <
> timjzieg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> For sure, it took me a long time to get those things in my head. Hats of
> to him for trying.
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 3, 2023 at 1:58 AM  wrote:
>
> He is new and as he wants a better and better job im sure he will ask
> questions and we can help
>
> I did leave a comment during and after asking for more info on what he is
> doing like what bits and what pitches
>
> He is using and he needs to learn the difference between a rope bit and a
> barley bit
>
> But we all had to learn right
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>
> *Sent:* Friday, 3 February 2023 4:27 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: milling
>
>
>
> Hey Bill.
>
>
>
> My Mom use to tell me, "If you cant say something nice, Don't say anything
> at all".
>
>
>
> You are right about the camera angle. being a novel approach, One that I
> never though of trying.
>
>
>
> There were quite of few suggestion that I would like to make While
> watching this video, In order to help this person get the most out of his
> Legacy. Simple little things, like plaining off the corners before you try
> to use the spiral/lead screw. Turning the headstock by hand/lever handle,
> and moving the Carriage by hand, to make the spindle round. Also, Making
> the spindle round first, so the spindle dose not have a flat spot, before
> you try to turn...  (there are more, but I will stop there.)
>
> Over all I like the attempt, Perhaps his videos will bring in more people,
> to start using the Legacy? We can ONLY Hope. ;-)
>
>
>
> Thanks for sharing this.
>
>
>
> Have a good day.
>
> C.A.G.
>
>
>
> On Thursday, February 2, 2023 at 06:43:29 PM EST, bulke...@mmnet.com.au <
> bulke...@mmnet.com.au> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Zy8Ll7FSM0&ab_channel=CoupleofBunkys
>
>
>
> just watched this comments ?
>
>
>
> needs a bit of info like bits used and pitches I think great camera angle
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
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Re: milling

2023-02-03 Thread Tim Woodard
Hey guys I'm sitting back here lurking and reading all the comment if
you're really interested in helping us out leave these comments inside of
our comments on the video This helps with engagement on the video and can
get the video seen by more people

On Fri, Feb 3, 2023, 8:41 AM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Good morning everyone.
>
> Tim I agree 100%, Hats off to anyone who wants to try and show others
> something that they can do. I cant wait to see the next video.
>
> C.A.G.
>
> On Friday, February 3, 2023 at 06:48:02 AM EST, Tim Ziegler <
> timjzieg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> For sure, it took me a long time to get those things in my head. Hats of
> to him for trying.
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 3, 2023 at 1:58 AM  wrote:
>
> He is new and as he wants a better and better job im sure he will ask
> questions and we can help
>
> I did leave a comment during and after asking for more info on what he is
> doing like what bits and what pitches
>
> He is using and he needs to learn the difference between a rope bit and a
> barley bit
>
> But we all had to learn right
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>
> *Sent:* Friday, 3 February 2023 4:27 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: milling
>
>
>
> Hey Bill.
>
>
>
> My Mom use to tell me, "If you cant say something nice, Don't say anything
> at all".
>
>
>
> You are right about the camera angle. being a novel approach, One that I
> never though of trying.
>
>
>
> There were quite of few suggestion that I would like to make While
> watching this video, In order to help this person get the most out of his
> Legacy. Simple little things, like plaining off the corners before you try
> to use the spiral/lead screw. Turning the headstock by hand/lever handle,
> and moving the Carriage by hand, to make the spindle round. Also, Making
> the spindle round first, so the spindle dose not have a flat spot, before
> you try to turn...  (there are more, but I will stop there.)
>
> Over all I like the attempt, Perhaps his videos will bring in more people,
> to start using the Legacy? We can ONLY Hope. ;-)
>
>
>
> Thanks for sharing this.
>
>
>
> Have a good day.
>
> C.A.G.
>
>
>
> On Thursday, February 2, 2023 at 06:43:29 PM EST, bulke...@mmnet.com.au <
> bulke...@mmnet.com.au> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Zy8Ll7FSM0&ab_channel=CoupleofBunkys
>
>
>
> just watched this comments ?
>
>
>
> needs a bit of info like bits used and pitches I think great camera angle
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
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Re: milling

2023-02-03 Thread 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills
 Good morning everyone.
Tim I agree 100%, Hats off to anyone who wants to try and show others something 
that they can do. I cant wait to see the next video.
C.A.G.
On Friday, February 3, 2023 at 06:48:02 AM EST, Tim Ziegler 
 wrote:  
 
 For sure, it took me a long time to get those things in my head. Hats of to 
him for trying.
Kind Regards,
Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & Specialty14171 160th Ave.Foreston MN 56330
320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cell

On Fri, Feb 3, 2023 at 1:58 AM  wrote:


He is new and as he wants a better and better job im sure he will ask questions 
and we can help

I did leave a comment during and after asking for more info on what he is doing 
like what bits and what pitches

He is using and he needs to learn the difference between a rope bit and a 
barley bit 

But we all had to learn right

 

Bill

 

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 
Sent: Friday, 3 February 2023 4:27 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: milling

 

Hey Bill.

 

My Mom use to tell me, "If you cant say something nice, Don't say anything at 
all". 

 

You are right about the camera angle. being a novel approach, One that I never 
though of trying.

 

There were quite of few suggestion that I would like to make While watching 
this video, In order to help this person get the most out of his Legacy. Simple 
little things, like plaining off the corners before you try to use the 
spiral/lead screw. Turning the headstock by hand/lever handle, and moving the 
Carriage by hand, to make the spindle round. Also, Making the spindle round 
first, so the spindle dose not have a flat spot, before you try to turn...  
(there are more, but I will stop there.) 

Over all I like the attempt, Perhaps his videos will bring in more people, to 
start using the Legacy? We can ONLY Hope. ;-)

 

Thanks for sharing this.

 

Have a good day.

C.A.G. 

 

On Thursday, February 2, 2023 at 06:43:29 PM EST, bulke...@mmnet.com.au 
 wrote: 

 

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Zy8Ll7FSM0&ab_channel=CoupleofBunkys

 

just watched this comments ?

 

needs a bit of info like bits used and pitches I think great camera angle 

 

Bill

 

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Re: milling

2023-02-03 Thread Tim Ziegler
For sure, it took me a long time to get those things in my head. Hats of to
him for trying.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Fri, Feb 3, 2023 at 1:58 AM  wrote:

> He is new and as he wants a better and better job im sure he will ask
> questions and we can help
>
> I did leave a comment during and after asking for more info on what he is
> doing like what bits and what pitches
>
> He is using and he needs to learn the difference between a rope bit and a
> barley bit
>
> But we all had to learn right
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>
> *Sent:* Friday, 3 February 2023 4:27 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: milling
>
>
>
> Hey Bill.
>
>
>
> My Mom use to tell me, "If you cant say something nice, Don't say anything
> at all".
>
>
>
> You are right about the camera angle. being a novel approach, One that I
> never though of trying.
>
>
>
> There were quite of few suggestion that I would like to make While
> watching this video, In order to help this person get the most out of his
> Legacy. Simple little things, like plaining off the corners before you try
> to use the spiral/lead screw. Turning the headstock by hand/lever handle,
> and moving the Carriage by hand, to make the spindle round. Also, Making
> the spindle round first, so the spindle dose not have a flat spot, before
> you try to turn...  (there are more, but I will stop there.)
>
> Over all I like the attempt, Perhaps his videos will bring in more people,
> to start using the Legacy? We can ONLY Hope. ;-)
>
>
>
> Thanks for sharing this.
>
>
>
> Have a good day.
>
> C.A.G.
>
>
>
> On Thursday, February 2, 2023 at 06:43:29 PM EST, bulke...@mmnet.com.au <
> bulke...@mmnet.com.au> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Zy8Ll7FSM0&ab_channel=CoupleofBunkys
>
>
>
> just watched this comments ?
>
>
>
> needs a bit of info like bits used and pitches I think great camera angle
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
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Re: milling

2023-02-03 Thread Tim Ziegler
yup looks like learn and video as you go.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
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Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Fri, Feb 3, 2023 at 1:51 AM  wrote:

> Well we all have to learn I’m sure he will get better over time and we are
> here to answer any questions
>
>
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *M.W.Foscue
> *Sent:* Friday, 3 February 2023 4:25 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: milling
>
>
>
> Yes - GREAT position for the camera.  Not sure why he seemed to plow a
> channel up from the tailstock end (our right to left - to a bit shy of 40%
> of the length).  Then he milled the twist - almost completely removing that
> channel.
>
> Mac
> --
> --
>
> -Original Message-
> From: 
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> To: 
> Subject: milling
>
>
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Zy8Ll7FSM0&ab_channel=CoupleofBunkys
>
>
>
> just watched this comments ?
>
>
>
> needs a bit of info like bits used and pitches I think great camera angle
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Re: milling

2023-02-03 Thread Tim Ziegler
Yeah we all started somewhere. You should see my first sticks. uff.
Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
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Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Thu, Feb 2, 2023 at 11:27 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Hey Bill.
>
> My Mom use to tell me, "If you cant say something nice, Don't say anything
> at all".
>
> You are right about the camera angle. being a novel approach, One that I
> never though of trying.
>
> There were quite of few suggestion that I would like to make While
> watching this video, In order to help this person get the most out of his
> Legacy. Simple little things, like plaining off the corners before you try
> to use the spiral/lead screw. Turning the headstock by hand/lever handle,
> and moving the Carriage by hand, to make the spindle round. Also, Making
> the spindle round first, so the spindle dose not have a flat spot, before
> you try to turn...  (there are more, but I will stop there.)
> Over all I like the attempt, Perhaps his videos will bring in more people,
> to start using the Legacy? We can ONLY Hope. ;-)
>
> Thanks for sharing this.
>
> Have a good day.
> C.A.G.
>
> On Thursday, February 2, 2023 at 06:43:29 PM EST, bulke...@mmnet.com.au <
> bulke...@mmnet.com.au> wrote:
>
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Zy8Ll7FSM0&ab_channel=CoupleofBunkys
>
>
>
> just watched this comments ?
>
>
>
> needs a bit of info like bits used and pitches I think great camera angle
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
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RE: milling

2023-02-02 Thread bulkeley
He is new and as he wants a better and better job im sure he will ask questions 
and we can help

I did leave a comment during and after asking for more info on what he is doing 
like what bits and what pitches

He is using and he needs to learn the difference between a rope bit and a 
barley bit 

But we all had to learn right

 

Bill

 

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 
Sent: Friday, 3 February 2023 4:27 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: milling

 

Hey Bill.

 

My Mom use to tell me, "If you cant say something nice, Don't say anything at 
all". 

 

You are right about the camera angle. being a novel approach, One that I never 
though of trying.

 

There were quite of few suggestion that I would like to make While watching 
this video, In order to help this person get the most out of his Legacy. Simple 
little things, like plaining off the corners before you try to use the 
spiral/lead screw. Turning the headstock by hand/lever handle, and moving the 
Carriage by hand, to make the spindle round. Also, Making the spindle round 
first, so the spindle dose not have a flat spot, before you try to turn...  
(there are more, but I will stop there.) 

Over all I like the attempt, Perhaps his videos will bring in more people, to 
start using the Legacy? We can ONLY Hope. ;-)

 

Thanks for sharing this.

 

Have a good day.

C.A.G. 

 

On Thursday, February 2, 2023 at 06:43:29 PM EST, bulke...@mmnet.com.au 
<mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au>  mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote: 

 

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Zy8Ll7FSM0 
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Zy8Ll7FSM0&ab_channel=CoupleofBunkys> 
&ab_channel=CoupleofBunkys

 

just watched this comments ?

 

needs a bit of info like bits used and pitches I think great camera angle 

 

Bill

 

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RE: milling

2023-02-02 Thread bulkeley
Well we all have to learn I’m sure he will get better over time and we are here 
to answer any questions

 

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of M.W.Foscue
Sent: Friday, 3 February 2023 4:25 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: milling

 

Yes - GREAT position for the camera.  Not sure why he seemed to plow a channel 
up from the tailstock end (our right to left - to a bit shy of 40% of the 
length).  Then he milled the twist - almost completely removing that channel.

Mac

  _  

  _  

-Original Message-
From: mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> >
Sent: Feb 2, 2023 6:43 PM
To: mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> >
Subject: milling

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Zy8Ll7FSM0 
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Zy8Ll7FSM0&ab_channel=CoupleofBunkys> 
&ab_channel=CoupleofBunkys

 

just watched this comments ?

 

needs a bit of info like bits used and pitches I think great camera angle 

 

Bill

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Re: milling

2023-02-02 Thread M.W.Foscue
Curtis,
I noticed the same as you - I liked the camera position.  It was apparent the 
stock (Bill - for you - "timber"?) was not mounted centered on the mounting dog 
and tailstock center.  If it were, he'd have eliminated all the flats at very 
close to the same time - versus still having a flat well after the other 3 were 
milled to cylindrical.
Mac
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From: 
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To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 

Subject: Re: milling

 
Hey Bill.
 
My Mom use to tell me, "If you cant say something nice, Don't say anything at 
all". 
 
You are right about the camera angle. being a novel approach, One that I never 
though of trying.
 
There were quite of few suggestion that I would like to make While watching 
this video, In order to help this person get the most out of his Legacy. Simple 
little things, like plaining off the corners before you try to use the 
spiral/lead screw. Turning the headstock by hand/lever handle, and moving the 
Carriage by hand, to make the spindle round. Also, Making the spindle round 
first, so the spindle dose not have a flat spot, before you try to turn...  
(there are more, but I will stop there.) 
Over all I like the attempt, Perhaps his videos will bring in more people, to 
start using the Legacy? We can ONLY Hope. ;-)
 
Thanks for sharing this.
 
Have a good day.
C.A.G. 
 

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 wrote:
 
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Zy8Ll7FSM0&ab_channel=CoupleofBunkys
  
just watched this comments ?
  
needs a bit of info like bits used and pitches I think great camera angle 
  
Bill
  



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Re: milling

2023-02-02 Thread 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills
 Hey Bill.
My Mom use to tell me, "If you cant say something nice, Don't say anything at 
all". 
You are right about the camera angle. being a novel approach, One that I never 
though of trying.
There were quite of few suggestion that I would like to make While watching 
this video, In order to help this person get the most out of his Legacy. Simple 
little things, like plaining off the corners before you try to use the 
spiral/lead screw. Turning the headstock by hand/lever handle, and moving the 
Carriage by hand, to make the spindle round. Also, Making the spindle round 
first, so the spindle dose not have a flat spot, before you try to turn...  
(there are more, but I will stop there.) Over all I like the attempt, Perhaps 
his videos will bring in more people, to start using the Legacy? We can ONLY 
Hope. ;-)
Thanks for sharing this.
Have a good day.C.A.G. 
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 wrote:  
 
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Zy8Ll7FSM0&ab_channel=CoupleofBunkys

  

just watched this comments ?

  

needs a bit of info like bits used and pitches I think great camera angle 

  

Bill

  
 

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Re: milling

2023-02-02 Thread M.W.Foscue
Yes - GREAT position for the camera.  Not sure why he seemed to plow a channel 
up from the tailstock end (our right to left - to a bit shy of 40% of the 
length).  Then he milled the twist - almost completely removing that channel.
Mac
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Zy8Ll7FSM0&ab_channel=CoupleofBunkys
 
just watched this comments ?
 
needs a bit of info like bits used and pitches I think great camera angle 
 
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Re: milling

2023-02-02 Thread Tim Ziegler
Yup good to see him doing another though and stepping out a bit.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Thu, Feb 2, 2023 at 5:43 PM  wrote:

> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Zy8Ll7FSM0&ab_channel=CoupleofBunkys
>
>
>
> just watched this comments ?
>
>
>
> needs a bit of info like bits used and pitches I think great camera angle
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
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milling

2023-02-02 Thread bulkeley
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Zy8Ll7FSM0

&ab_channel=CoupleofBunkys

 

just watched this comments ?

 

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Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5

2022-10-18 Thread Rick Boeing
Thanks Bill just ordered one.

On Tue, Oct 18, 2022, 1:14 AM  wrote:

> Its called an Xtreme Xtension
>
> http://www.routertechnologies.com/extreme%20extension.htm
>
>
>
> and yes it does tighten up with a Allen wrench
>
> I used it on the videos to get the cutters nice and low so you guys
>
> Can clearly see what’s going on as the work is being milled
>
> Also good when you have a long reach to get to the work
>
> Originally made for router tables but some of us use them on their mills
>
>
>
> https://www.ebay.com/p/1700112129
>
>
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Rick Boeing
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 18 October 2022 1:38 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5
>
>
>
> Hey guys I have a question for you. Bill is making videos for us newbies
> and in the one video he put a bit in his router and it looked like it was
> an extension type collet. It also looked like he just tighten up with a
> Allen wrench. Is this a thing and where do you get it from? Thanks Rick
>
>
>
> On Mon, Oct 17, 2022, 10:28 PM 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills
>  wrote:
>
> Thanks Tim. I’ll make a list of my extra LOM items tmrw and post or let
> you know.
>
> Denson
>
> Sent from Denson's iPhone
>
>
>
> On Oct 17, 2022, at 9:08 PM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:
>
> 
>
> I'll check tomorrow but I think I put most of my extra's to use for
> running from one machine to the other.
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Oct 17, 2022 at 8:37 PM 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental
> Mills  wrote:
>
> If anyone has an extra female dog plate I would be interested in a
> purchase or trade perhaps. I have some extra LOM parts that I would
> consider trading.
>
> Thanks
>
> Denson
>
> Sent from Denson's iPhone
>
>
>
> On Oct 17, 2022, at 7:57 PM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:
>
> 
>
> Good luck with that but you never know
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 18 October 2022 11:53 AM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5
>
>
>
> I have everything but the female side of LOM dog plate. I’ll call legacy
> tmrw and see if they have one they will sell me.
>
> Thanks for all the help guys.
>
> I’ll show the finish part when complete.
>
> Denson
>
> Sent from Denson's iPhone
>
>
>
> On Oct 17, 2022, at 6:18 PM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:
>
> 
>
> Something like this for the polish wheel adaptor ?
>
>
> https://www.amazon.com/Spindle-Adapter-mounting-polishing-Woodworking/dp/B07RT5NG3N
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Okla Mike
> (Liltwisted)
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 18 October 2022 9:49 AM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5
>
>
>
> Here you go, I knew I wasn't going to get away with just a post.
>
> On 10/17/2022 5:21 PM, Tim Ziegler wrote:
>
> Mike can you send a pic or so of your design too?
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Oct 17, 2022 at 5:19 PM Okla Mike (Liltwisted) <
> legacym...@iglide.net> wrote:
>
> Shop Smith has a 5/8" smooth shaft.  What I did was use the #2mt to 5/8"
> adapter SS uses to put a drill chuck into the tail stock.  I installed it
> on the Legacy drive so then I could just use the SS normal drive spur on
> both machines.  If you are wanting to use the drive dogs on the SS look at
> motor accessories and find a polish wheel adapter that will fit a 5/8"
> motor shaft.  Then I ordered a unmounted female side dog plate from Legacy
> and welded it onto the polish wheel shaft.  I trimmed off the excess shaft
> and now I was ready to set-screw it onto the SS.  These two set-ups will
> allow you to use either a spur or drive dogs.
&

Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5

2022-10-18 Thread Tim Ziegler
I would recommend this one Bill just mentioned over the muscle chuck. I had
some challenges
with them getting them to balance out well. I have about 4 of the
"Extremes" and work great.
And yes Welcome Rick.
Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Tue, Oct 18, 2022 at 12:14 AM  wrote:

> Its called an Xtreme Xtension
>
> http://www.routertechnologies.com/extreme%20extension.htm
>
>
>
> and yes it does tighten up with a Allen wrench
>
> I used it on the videos to get the cutters nice and low so you guys
>
> Can clearly see what’s going on as the work is being milled
>
> Also good when you have a long reach to get to the work
>
> Originally made for router tables but some of us use them on their mills
>
>
>
> https://www.ebay.com/p/1700112129
>
>
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Rick Boeing
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 18 October 2022 1:38 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5
>
>
>
> Hey guys I have a question for you. Bill is making videos for us newbies
> and in the one video he put a bit in his router and it looked like it was
> an extension type collet. It also looked like he just tighten up with a
> Allen wrench. Is this a thing and where do you get it from? Thanks Rick
>
>
>
> On Mon, Oct 17, 2022, 10:28 PM 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills
>  wrote:
>
> Thanks Tim. I’ll make a list of my extra LOM items tmrw and post or let
> you know.
>
> Denson
>
> Sent from Denson's iPhone
>
>
>
> On Oct 17, 2022, at 9:08 PM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:
>
> 
>
> I'll check tomorrow but I think I put most of my extra's to use for
> running from one machine to the other.
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Oct 17, 2022 at 8:37 PM 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental
> Mills  wrote:
>
> If anyone has an extra female dog plate I would be interested in a
> purchase or trade perhaps. I have some extra LOM parts that I would
> consider trading.
>
> Thanks
>
> Denson
>
> Sent from Denson's iPhone
>
>
>
> On Oct 17, 2022, at 7:57 PM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:
>
> 
>
> Good luck with that but you never know
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 18 October 2022 11:53 AM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5
>
>
>
> I have everything but the female side of LOM dog plate. I’ll call legacy
> tmrw and see if they have one they will sell me.
>
> Thanks for all the help guys.
>
> I’ll show the finish part when complete.
>
> Denson
>
> Sent from Denson's iPhone
>
>
>
> On Oct 17, 2022, at 6:18 PM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:
>
> 
>
> Something like this for the polish wheel adaptor ?
>
>
> https://www.amazon.com/Spindle-Adapter-mounting-polishing-Woodworking/dp/B07RT5NG3N
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Okla Mike
> (Liltwisted)
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 18 October 2022 9:49 AM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5
>
>
>
> Here you go, I knew I wasn't going to get away with just a post.
>
> On 10/17/2022 5:21 PM, Tim Ziegler wrote:
>
> Mike can you send a pic or so of your design too?
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Oct 17, 2022 at 5:19 PM Okla Mike (Liltwisted) <
> legacym...@iglide.net> wrote:
>
> Shop Smith has a 5/8" smooth shaft.  What I did was use the #2mt to 5/8"
> adapter SS uses to put a drill chuck into the tail stock.  I installed it
> on the Legacy drive so then I could just use the SS normal drive spur on
> both machines.  If you are wanting to use the drive dogs on the SS look at
> motor accessories and find a polish wheel ada

RE: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5

2022-10-17 Thread bulkeley
Its called an Xtreme Xtension 

http://www.routertechnologies.com/extreme%20extension.htm

 

and yes it does tighten up with a Allen wrench

I used it on the videos to get the cutters nice and low so you guys 

Can clearly see what’s going on as the work is being milled

Also good when you have a long reach to get to the work

Originally made for router tables but some of us use them on their mills

 

https://www.ebay.com/p/1700112129

 

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Rick Boeing
Sent: Tuesday, 18 October 2022 1:38 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5

 

Hey guys I have a question for you. Bill is making videos for us newbies and in 
the one video he put a bit in his router and it looked like it was an extension 
type collet. It also looked like he just tighten up with a Allen wrench. Is 
this a thing and where do you get it from? Thanks Rick

 

On Mon, Oct 17, 2022, 10:28 PM 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > wrote:

Thanks Tim. I’ll make a list of my extra LOM items tmrw and post or let you 
know.

Denson

Sent from Denson's iPhone





On Oct 17, 2022, at 9:08 PM, Tim Ziegler mailto:timjzieg...@gmail.com> > wrote:



I'll check tomorrow but I think I put most of my extra's to use for running 
from one machine to the other. 




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Mon, Oct 17, 2022 at 8:37 PM 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > wrote:

If anyone has an extra female dog plate I would be interested in a purchase or 
trade perhaps. I have some extra LOM parts that I would consider trading.

Thanks

Denson

Sent from Denson's iPhone





On Oct 17, 2022, at 7:57 PM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au 
<mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au>  wrote:



Good luck with that but you never know

 

Bill

 

From: 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > 
Sent: Tuesday, 18 October 2022 11:53 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5

 

I have everything but the female side of LOM dog plate. I’ll call legacy tmrw 
and see if they have one they will sell me.

Thanks for all the help guys.

I’ll show the finish part when complete.

Denson

Sent from Denson's iPhone

 

On Oct 17, 2022, at 6:18 PM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au 
<mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au>  wrote:



Something like this for the polish wheel adaptor ?

https://www.amazon.com/Spindle-Adapter-mounting-polishing-Woodworking/dp/B07RT5NG3N

 

Bill

 

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Okla Mike 
(Liltwisted)
Sent: Tuesday, 18 October 2022 9:49 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5

 

Here you go, I knew I wasn't going to get away with just a post.

On 10/17/2022 5:21 PM, Tim Ziegler wrote:

Mike can you send a pic or so of your design too?


Kind Regards, 

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Mon, Oct 17, 2022 at 5:19 PM Okla Mike (Liltwisted) mailto:legacym...@iglide.net> > wrote:

Shop Smith has a 5/8" smooth shaft.  What I did was use the #2mt to 5/8" 
adapter SS uses to put a drill chuck into the tail stock.  I installed it on 
the Legacy drive so then I could just use the SS normal drive spur on both 
machines.  If you are wanting to use the drive dogs on the SS look at motor 
accessories and find a polish wheel adapter that will fit a 5/8" motor shaft.  
Then I ordered a unmounted female side dog plate from Legacy and welded it onto 
the polish wheel shaft.  I trimmed off the excess shaft and now I was ready to 
set-screw it onto the SS.  These two set-ups will allow you to use either a 
spur or drive dogs.

Mike
OK

On 10/17/2022 10:59 AM, 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills wrote:

Thank you Bill for the great info for us beginners. 

I’m sure this has been brought up before but how is the best way to go from LOM 
to Shopsmith lathe or vice versa. And if special made connectors could you send 
pics?

Thanks

Denson

Sent from Denson's iPhone





On Oct 17, 2022, at 7:32 AM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au 
<mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au>  wrote:

 

I wouldn’t say toolmaker we learnt how to silver braze tips as an apprentice 
and hand 

Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5

2022-10-17 Thread Rick Boeing
Hey guys I have a question for you. Bill is making videos for us newbies
and in the one video he put a bit in his router and it looked like it was
an extension type collet. It also looked like he just tighten up with a
Allen wrench. Is this a thing and where do you get it from? Thanks Rick

On Mon, Oct 17, 2022, 10:28 PM 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Thanks Tim. I’ll make a list of my extra LOM items tmrw and post or let
> you know.
> Denson
>
> Sent from Denson's iPhone
>
> On Oct 17, 2022, at 9:08 PM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:
>
> 
> I'll check tomorrow but I think I put most of my extra's to use for
> running from one machine to the other.
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
> On Mon, Oct 17, 2022 at 8:37 PM 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental
> Mills  wrote:
>
>> If anyone has an extra female dog plate I would be interested in a
>> purchase or trade perhaps. I have some extra LOM parts that I would
>> consider trading.
>> Thanks
>> Denson
>>
>> Sent from Denson's iPhone
>>
>> On Oct 17, 2022, at 7:57 PM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:
>>
>> 
>>
>> Good luck with that but you never know
>>
>>
>>
>> Bill
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
>> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, 18 October 2022 11:53 AM
>> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
>> *Subject:* Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5
>>
>>
>>
>> I have everything but the female side of LOM dog plate. I’ll call legacy
>> tmrw and see if they have one they will sell me.
>>
>> Thanks for all the help guys.
>>
>> I’ll show the finish part when complete.
>>
>> Denson
>>
>> Sent from Denson's iPhone
>>
>>
>>
>> On Oct 17, 2022, at 6:18 PM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:
>>
>> 
>>
>> Something like this for the polish wheel adaptor ?
>>
>>
>> https://www.amazon.com/Spindle-Adapter-mounting-polishing-Woodworking/dp/B07RT5NG3N
>>
>>
>>
>> Bill
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
>> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Okla Mike
>> (Liltwisted)
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, 18 October 2022 9:49 AM
>> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
>> *Subject:* Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5
>>
>>
>>
>> Here you go, I knew I wasn't going to get away with just a post.
>>
>> On 10/17/2022 5:21 PM, Tim Ziegler wrote:
>>
>> Mike can you send a pic or so of your design too?
>>
>> Kind Regards,
>>
>>
>>
>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>>
>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>>
>> 14171 160th Ave.
>>
>> Foreston MN 56330
>>
>>
>>
>> 320-294-5798 shop
>>
>> 320-630-2243 cell
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 17, 2022 at 5:19 PM Okla Mike (Liltwisted) <
>> legacym...@iglide.net> wrote:
>>
>> Shop Smith has a 5/8" smooth shaft.  What I did was use the #2mt to 5/8"
>> adapter SS uses to put a drill chuck into the tail stock.  I installed it
>> on the Legacy drive so then I could just use the SS normal drive spur on
>> both machines.  If you are wanting to use the drive dogs on the SS look at
>> motor accessories and find a polish wheel adapter that will fit a 5/8"
>> motor shaft.  Then I ordered a unmounted female side dog plate from Legacy
>> and welded it onto the polish wheel shaft.  I trimmed off the excess shaft
>> and now I was ready to set-screw it onto the SS.  These two set-ups will
>> allow you to use either a spur or drive dogs.
>>
>> Mike
>> OK
>>
>> On 10/17/2022 10:59 AM, 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills wrote:
>>
>> Thank you Bill for the great info for us beginners.
>>
>> I’m sure this has been brought up before but how is the best way to go
>> from LOM to Shopsmith lathe or vice versa. And if special made connectors
>> could you send pics?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Denson
>>
>> Sent from Denson's iPhone
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Oct 17, 2022, at 7:32 AM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:
>>

Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5

2022-10-17 Thread Tim Ziegler
Sounds good Denson

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Mon, Oct 17, 2022 at 9:28 PM 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills
 wrote:

> Thanks Tim. I’ll make a list of my extra LOM items tmrw and post or let
> you know.
> Denson
>
> Sent from Denson's iPhone
>
> On Oct 17, 2022, at 9:08 PM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:
>
> 
> I'll check tomorrow but I think I put most of my extra's to use for
> running from one machine to the other.
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
> On Mon, Oct 17, 2022 at 8:37 PM 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental
> Mills  wrote:
>
>> If anyone has an extra female dog plate I would be interested in a
>> purchase or trade perhaps. I have some extra LOM parts that I would
>> consider trading.
>> Thanks
>> Denson
>>
>> Sent from Denson's iPhone
>>
>> On Oct 17, 2022, at 7:57 PM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:
>>
>> 
>>
>> Good luck with that but you never know
>>
>>
>>
>> Bill
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
>> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, 18 October 2022 11:53 AM
>> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
>> *Subject:* Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5
>>
>>
>>
>> I have everything but the female side of LOM dog plate. I’ll call legacy
>> tmrw and see if they have one they will sell me.
>>
>> Thanks for all the help guys.
>>
>> I’ll show the finish part when complete.
>>
>> Denson
>>
>> Sent from Denson's iPhone
>>
>>
>>
>> On Oct 17, 2022, at 6:18 PM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:
>>
>> 
>>
>> Something like this for the polish wheel adaptor ?
>>
>>
>> https://www.amazon.com/Spindle-Adapter-mounting-polishing-Woodworking/dp/B07RT5NG3N
>>
>>
>>
>> Bill
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
>> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Okla Mike
>> (Liltwisted)
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, 18 October 2022 9:49 AM
>> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
>> *Subject:* Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5
>>
>>
>>
>> Here you go, I knew I wasn't going to get away with just a post.
>>
>> On 10/17/2022 5:21 PM, Tim Ziegler wrote:
>>
>> Mike can you send a pic or so of your design too?
>>
>> Kind Regards,
>>
>>
>>
>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>>
>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>>
>> 14171 160th Ave.
>>
>> Foreston MN 56330
>>
>>
>>
>> 320-294-5798 shop
>>
>> 320-630-2243 cell
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 17, 2022 at 5:19 PM Okla Mike (Liltwisted) <
>> legacym...@iglide.net> wrote:
>>
>> Shop Smith has a 5/8" smooth shaft.  What I did was use the #2mt to 5/8"
>> adapter SS uses to put a drill chuck into the tail stock.  I installed it
>> on the Legacy drive so then I could just use the SS normal drive spur on
>> both machines.  If you are wanting to use the drive dogs on the SS look at
>> motor accessories and find a polish wheel adapter that will fit a 5/8"
>> motor shaft.  Then I ordered a unmounted female side dog plate from Legacy
>> and welded it onto the polish wheel shaft.  I trimmed off the excess shaft
>> and now I was ready to set-screw it onto the SS.  These two set-ups will
>> allow you to use either a spur or drive dogs.
>>
>> Mike
>> OK
>>
>> On 10/17/2022 10:59 AM, 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills wrote:
>>
>> Thank you Bill for the great info for us beginners.
>>
>> I’m sure this has been brought up before but how is the best way to go
>> from LOM to Shopsmith lathe or vice versa. And if special made connectors
>> could you send pics?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Denson
>>
>> Sent from Denson's iPhone
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Oct 17, 2022, at 7:32 AM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:
>>
>> 
>>
>> I wouldn’t say toolmaker we learnt how to silver braze tips as an
>> apprentice and hand grinding tools for the metal lathe as
>>
>> Part of the

Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5

2022-10-17 Thread 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills
Thanks Tim. I’ll make a list of my extra LOM items tmrw and post or let you 
know.
Denson

Sent from Denson's iPhone

> On Oct 17, 2022, at 9:08 PM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:
> 
> 
> I'll check tomorrow but I think I put most of my extra's to use for running 
> from one machine to the other. 
> 
> Kind Regards,
> 
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
> 
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
> 
> 
>> On Mon, Oct 17, 2022 at 8:37 PM 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
>>  wrote:
>> If anyone has an extra female dog plate I would be interested in a purchase 
>> or trade perhaps. I have some extra LOM parts that I would consider trading.
>> Thanks
>> Denson
>> 
>> Sent from Denson's iPhone
>> 
>>>> On Oct 17, 2022, at 7:57 PM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> Good luck with that but you never know
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Bill
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> From: 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
>>>  
>>> Sent: Tuesday, 18 October 2022 11:53 AM
>>> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> I have everything but the female side of LOM dog plate. I’ll call legacy 
>>> tmrw and see if they have one they will sell me.
>>> 
>>> Thanks for all the help guys.
>>> 
>>> I’ll show the finish part when complete.
>>> 
>>> Denson
>>> 
>>> Sent from Denson's iPhone
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Oct 17, 2022, at 6:18 PM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Something like this for the polish wheel adaptor ?
>>> 
>>> https://www.amazon.com/Spindle-Adapter-mounting-polishing-Woodworking/dp/B07RT5NG3N
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Bill
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
>>>  On Behalf Of Okla Mike 
>>> (Liltwisted)
>>> Sent: Tuesday, 18 October 2022 9:49 AM
>>> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Here you go, I knew I wasn't going to get away with just a post.
>>> 
>>> On 10/17/2022 5:21 PM, Tim Ziegler wrote:
>>> 
>>> Mike can you send a pic or so of your design too?
>>> 
>>> Kind Regards,
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>>> 
>>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>>> 
>>> 14171 160th Ave.
>>> 
>>> Foreston MN 56330
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> 320-294-5798 shop
>>> 
>>> 320-630-2243 cell
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> On Mon, Oct 17, 2022 at 5:19 PM Okla Mike (Liltwisted) 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Shop Smith has a 5/8" smooth shaft.  What I did was use the #2mt to 5/8" 
>>> adapter SS uses to put a drill chuck into the tail stock.  I installed it 
>>> on the Legacy drive so then I could just use the SS normal drive spur on 
>>> both machines.  If you are wanting to use the drive dogs on the SS look at 
>>> motor accessories and find a polish wheel adapter that will fit a 5/8" 
>>> motor shaft.  Then I ordered a unmounted female side dog plate from Legacy 
>>> and welded it onto the polish wheel shaft.  I trimmed off the excess shaft 
>>> and now I was ready to set-screw it onto the SS.  These two set-ups will 
>>> allow you to use either a spur or drive dogs.
>>> 
>>> Mike
>>> OK
>>> 
>>> On 10/17/2022 10:59 AM, 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills wrote:
>>> 
>>> Thank you Bill for the great info for us beginners.
>>> 
>>> I’m sure this has been brought up before but how is the best way to go from 
>>> LOM to Shopsmith lathe or vice versa. And if special made connectors could 
>>> you send pics?
>>> 
>>> Thanks
>>> 
>>> Denson
>>> 
>>> Sent from Denson's iPhone
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Oct 17, 2022, at 7:32 AM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>&g

Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5

2022-10-17 Thread Tim Ziegler
I'll check tomorrow but I think I put most of my extra's to use for running
from one machine to the other.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Mon, Oct 17, 2022 at 8:37 PM 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills
 wrote:

> If anyone has an extra female dog plate I would be interested in a
> purchase or trade perhaps. I have some extra LOM parts that I would
> consider trading.
> Thanks
> Denson
>
> Sent from Denson's iPhone
>
> On Oct 17, 2022, at 7:57 PM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:
>
> 
>
> Good luck with that but you never know
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 18 October 2022 11:53 AM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5
>
>
>
> I have everything but the female side of LOM dog plate. I’ll call legacy
> tmrw and see if they have one they will sell me.
>
> Thanks for all the help guys.
>
> I’ll show the finish part when complete.
>
> Denson
>
> Sent from Denson's iPhone
>
>
>
> On Oct 17, 2022, at 6:18 PM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:
>
> 
>
> Something like this for the polish wheel adaptor ?
>
>
> https://www.amazon.com/Spindle-Adapter-mounting-polishing-Woodworking/dp/B07RT5NG3N
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Okla Mike
> (Liltwisted)
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 18 October 2022 9:49 AM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5
>
>
>
> Here you go, I knew I wasn't going to get away with just a post.
>
> On 10/17/2022 5:21 PM, Tim Ziegler wrote:
>
> Mike can you send a pic or so of your design too?
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Oct 17, 2022 at 5:19 PM Okla Mike (Liltwisted) <
> legacym...@iglide.net> wrote:
>
> Shop Smith has a 5/8" smooth shaft.  What I did was use the #2mt to 5/8"
> adapter SS uses to put a drill chuck into the tail stock.  I installed it
> on the Legacy drive so then I could just use the SS normal drive spur on
> both machines.  If you are wanting to use the drive dogs on the SS look at
> motor accessories and find a polish wheel adapter that will fit a 5/8"
> motor shaft.  Then I ordered a unmounted female side dog plate from Legacy
> and welded it onto the polish wheel shaft.  I trimmed off the excess shaft
> and now I was ready to set-screw it onto the SS.  These two set-ups will
> allow you to use either a spur or drive dogs.
>
> Mike
> OK
>
> On 10/17/2022 10:59 AM, 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills wrote:
>
> Thank you Bill for the great info for us beginners.
>
> I’m sure this has been brought up before but how is the best way to go
> from LOM to Shopsmith lathe or vice versa. And if special made connectors
> could you send pics?
>
> Thanks
>
> Denson
>
> Sent from Denson's iPhone
>
>
>
>
> On Oct 17, 2022, at 7:32 AM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:
>
> 
>
> I wouldn’t say toolmaker we learnt how to silver braze tips as an
> apprentice and hand grinding tools for the metal lathe as
>
> Part of the trade.
>
> Insertable carbide tips were just becoming popular back then there were no
> where near the amount of different shapes
>
> There is now so brazed carbide was still around and in use, recycling used
> inserts wasn’t the thing much then
>
> So I could get handfuls of old used inserts which I still have all these
> years later. insert tools were expensive back then
>
> So making your own was the logical thing to do I don’t know why it hasn’t
> become popular in wood turning tools today
>
> A nice piece of high tensile steel and some old used inserts and you can
> have a $300 lathe tool it’s a no brainer really.
>
> But after saying all this I couldn’t make router bits you need specialised
> grinding and milling machines for that.
>
> Much easier just to buy them or insert router bits.
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> 
>  *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Monday, 17 October 2022 9:41 PM
> *To:* legacy-orn

Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5

2022-10-17 Thread 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills
If anyone has an extra female dog plate I would be interested in a purchase or 
trade perhaps. I have some extra LOM parts that I would consider trading.
Thanks
Denson

Sent from Denson's iPhone

> On Oct 17, 2022, at 7:57 PM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:
> 
> 
> Good luck with that but you never know
>  
> Bill
>  
> From: 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
>  
> Sent: Tuesday, 18 October 2022 11:53 AM
> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5
>  
> I have everything but the female side of LOM dog plate. I’ll call legacy tmrw 
> and see if they have one they will sell me.
> Thanks for all the help guys.
> I’ll show the finish part when complete.
> Denson
> 
> Sent from Denson's iPhone
> 
> 
> On Oct 17, 2022, at 6:18 PM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:
> 
> 
> Something like this for the polish wheel adaptor ?
> https://www.amazon.com/Spindle-Adapter-mounting-polishing-Woodworking/dp/B07RT5NG3N
>  
> Bill
>  
>  
> From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
>  On Behalf Of Okla Mike (Liltwisted)
> Sent: Tuesday, 18 October 2022 9:49 AM
> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5
>  
> Here you go, I knew I wasn't going to get away with just a post.
> 
> On 10/17/2022 5:21 PM, Tim Ziegler wrote:
> Mike can you send a pic or so of your design too?
> Kind Regards,
>  
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
>  
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
>  
>  
> On Mon, Oct 17, 2022 at 5:19 PM Okla Mike (Liltwisted) 
>  wrote:
> Shop Smith has a 5/8" smooth shaft.  What I did was use the #2mt to 5/8" 
> adapter SS uses to put a drill chuck into the tail stock.  I installed it on 
> the Legacy drive so then I could just use the SS normal drive spur on both 
> machines.  If you are wanting to use the drive dogs on the SS look at motor 
> accessories and find a polish wheel adapter that will fit a 5/8" motor shaft. 
>  Then I ordered a unmounted female side dog plate from Legacy and welded it 
> onto the polish wheel shaft.  I trimmed off the excess shaft and now I was 
> ready to set-screw it onto the SS.  These two set-ups will allow you to use 
> either a spur or drive dogs.
> 
> Mike
> OK
> 
> On 10/17/2022 10:59 AM, 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills wrote:
> Thank you Bill for the great info for us beginners.
> I’m sure this has been brought up before but how is the best way to go from 
> LOM to Shopsmith lathe or vice versa. And if special made connectors could 
> you send pics?
> Thanks
> Denson
> 
> Sent from Denson's iPhone
> 
> 
> 
> On Oct 17, 2022, at 7:32 AM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:
> 
> 
> I wouldn’t say toolmaker we learnt how to silver braze tips as an apprentice 
> and hand grinding tools for the metal lathe as
> Part of the trade.
> Insertable carbide tips were just becoming popular back then there were no 
> where near the amount of different shapes
> There is now so brazed carbide was still around and in use, recycling used 
> inserts wasn’t the thing much then
> So I could get handfuls of old used inserts which I still have all these 
> years later. insert tools were expensive back then
> So making your own was the logical thing to do I don’t know why it hasn’t 
> become popular in wood turning tools today
> A nice piece of high tensile steel and some old used inserts and you can have 
> a $300 lathe tool it’s a no brainer really.
> But after saying all this I couldn’t make router bits you need specialised 
> grinding and milling machines for that.
> Much easier just to buy them or insert router bits.
>  
> Bill
>  
>  
>  
>  
> From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
>  On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
> Sent: Monday, 17 October 2022 9:41 PM
> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5
>  
> Wow Bill, so your a tool maker too. Now I'm even more impressed. lol
> I agree there are plenty of imports that can be as good, if they have good 
> quality control for sure. 
> 
> Kind Regards,
>  
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
>  
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
>  
>  
> On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 10:48 PM  wrote:
> I do remember the silver brazed on bits I used them lots in my days in the 
> metal trade
> And I make them still in my shop they were great when you needed a custom 
> shape tool
> I use used blunt inserts a

RE: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5

2022-10-17 Thread bulkeley
Good luck with that but you never know

 

Bill

 

From: 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 
Sent: Tuesday, 18 October 2022 11:53 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5

 

I have everything but the female side of LOM dog plate. I’ll call legacy tmrw 
and see if they have one they will sell me.

Thanks for all the help guys.

I’ll show the finish part when complete.

Denson

Sent from Denson's iPhone





On Oct 17, 2022, at 6:18 PM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au 
<mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au>  wrote:



Something like this for the polish wheel adaptor ?

https://www.amazon.com/Spindle-Adapter-mounting-polishing-Woodworking/dp/B07RT5NG3N

 

Bill

 

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Okla Mike 
(Liltwisted)
Sent: Tuesday, 18 October 2022 9:49 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5

 

Here you go, I knew I wasn't going to get away with just a post.

On 10/17/2022 5:21 PM, Tim Ziegler wrote:

Mike can you send a pic or so of your design too?


Kind Regards, 

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Mon, Oct 17, 2022 at 5:19 PM Okla Mike (Liltwisted) mailto:legacym...@iglide.net> > wrote:

Shop Smith has a 5/8" smooth shaft.  What I did was use the #2mt to 5/8" 
adapter SS uses to put a drill chuck into the tail stock.  I installed it on 
the Legacy drive so then I could just use the SS normal drive spur on both 
machines.  If you are wanting to use the drive dogs on the SS look at motor 
accessories and find a polish wheel adapter that will fit a 5/8" motor shaft.  
Then I ordered a unmounted female side dog plate from Legacy and welded it onto 
the polish wheel shaft.  I trimmed off the excess shaft and now I was ready to 
set-screw it onto the SS.  These two set-ups will allow you to use either a 
spur or drive dogs.

Mike
OK

On 10/17/2022 10:59 AM, 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills wrote:

Thank you Bill for the great info for us beginners. 

I’m sure this has been brought up before but how is the best way to go from LOM 
to Shopsmith lathe or vice versa. And if special made connectors could you send 
pics?

Thanks

Denson

Sent from Denson's iPhone






On Oct 17, 2022, at 7:32 AM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au 
<mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au>  wrote:

 

I wouldn’t say toolmaker we learnt how to silver braze tips as an apprentice 
and hand grinding tools for the metal lathe as 

Part of the trade.

Insertable carbide tips were just becoming popular back then there were no 
where near the amount of different shapes

There is now so brazed carbide was still around and in use, recycling used 
inserts wasn’t the thing much then 

So I could get handfuls of old used inserts which I still have all these years 
later. insert tools were expensive back then

So making your own was the logical thing to do I don’t know why it hasn’t 
become popular in wood turning tools today

A nice piece of high tensile steel and some old used inserts and you can have a 
$300 lathe tool it’s a no brainer really.

But after saying all this I couldn’t make router bits you need specialised 
grinding and milling machines for that.

Much easier just to buy them or insert router bits.

 

Bill

 

 

 

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>   
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
 On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Monday, 17 October 2022 9:41 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5

 

Wow Bill, so your a tool maker too. Now I'm even more impressed. lol

I agree there are plenty of imports that can be as good, if they have good 
quality control for sure. 




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 10:48 PM mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote:

I do remember the silver brazed on bits I used them lots in my days in the 
metal trade 

And I make them still in my shop they were great when you needed a custom shape 
tool

I use used blunt inserts and braze them on to a blank and they work as good as 
any insert 

Because they are an insert.

Anyway that tool your showing here is only a 2 flute where mine is 3 

Because I am poor I would buy the cheaper cutter but buy the high quality 
inserts and put in it 

Provided they fit, easy wood lathe tool inserts fit in min

Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5

2022-10-17 Thread 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills
I have everything but the female side of LOM dog plate. I’ll call legacy tmrw 
and see if they have one they will sell me.
Thanks for all the help guys.
I’ll show the finish part when complete.
Denson

Sent from Denson's iPhone

> On Oct 17, 2022, at 6:18 PM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:
> 
> 
> Something like this for the polish wheel adaptor ?
> https://www.amazon.com/Spindle-Adapter-mounting-polishing-Woodworking/dp/B07RT5NG3N
>  
> Bill
>  
>  
> From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
>  On Behalf Of Okla Mike (Liltwisted)
> Sent: Tuesday, 18 October 2022 9:49 AM
> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5
>  
> Here you go, I knew I wasn't going to get away with just a post.
> 
> On 10/17/2022 5:21 PM, Tim Ziegler wrote:
> Mike can you send a pic or so of your design too?
> Kind Regards,
>  
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
>  
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
>  
>  
> On Mon, Oct 17, 2022 at 5:19 PM Okla Mike (Liltwisted) 
>  wrote:
> Shop Smith has a 5/8" smooth shaft.  What I did was use the #2mt to 5/8" 
> adapter SS uses to put a drill chuck into the tail stock.  I installed it on 
> the Legacy drive so then I could just use the SS normal drive spur on both 
> machines.  If you are wanting to use the drive dogs on the SS look at motor 
> accessories and find a polish wheel adapter that will fit a 5/8" motor shaft. 
>  Then I ordered a unmounted female side dog plate from Legacy and welded it 
> onto the polish wheel shaft.  I trimmed off the excess shaft and now I was 
> ready to set-screw it onto the SS.  These two set-ups will allow you to use 
> either a spur or drive dogs.
> 
> Mike
> OK
> 
> On 10/17/2022 10:59 AM, 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills wrote:
> Thank you Bill for the great info for us beginners.
> I’m sure this has been brought up before but how is the best way to go from 
> LOM to Shopsmith lathe or vice versa. And if special made connectors could 
> you send pics?
> Thanks
> Denson
> 
> Sent from Denson's iPhone
> 
> 
> On Oct 17, 2022, at 7:32 AM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:
> 
> 
> I wouldn’t say toolmaker we learnt how to silver braze tips as an apprentice 
> and hand grinding tools for the metal lathe as
> Part of the trade.
> Insertable carbide tips were just becoming popular back then there were no 
> where near the amount of different shapes
> There is now so brazed carbide was still around and in use, recycling used 
> inserts wasn’t the thing much then
> So I could get handfuls of old used inserts which I still have all these 
> years later. insert tools were expensive back then
> So making your own was the logical thing to do I don’t know why it hasn’t 
> become popular in wood turning tools today
> A nice piece of high tensile steel and some old used inserts and you can have 
> a $300 lathe tool it’s a no brainer really.
> But after saying all this I couldn’t make router bits you need specialised 
> grinding and milling machines for that.
> Much easier just to buy them or insert router bits.
>  
> Bill
>  
>  
>  
>  
> From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
>  On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
> Sent: Monday, 17 October 2022 9:41 PM
> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5
>  
> Wow Bill, so your a tool maker too. Now I'm even more impressed. lol
> I agree there are plenty of imports that can be as good, if they have good 
> quality control for sure. 
> 
> Kind Regards,
>  
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
>  
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
>  
>  
> On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 10:48 PM  wrote:
> I do remember the silver brazed on bits I used them lots in my days in the 
> metal trade
> And I make them still in my shop they were great when you needed a custom 
> shape tool
> I use used blunt inserts and braze them on to a blank and they work as good 
> as any insert
> Because they are an insert.
> Anyway that tool your showing here is only a 2 flute where mine is 3
> Because I am poor I would buy the cheaper cutter but buy the high quality 
> inserts and put in it
> Provided they fit, easy wood lathe tool inserts fit in mine and I find them 
> quite good.
>  
> Bill
>  
> From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
>  On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
> Sent: Monday, 17 October 2022 1:09 PM
> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: ornamental milling for beginners

RE: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5

2022-10-17 Thread bulkeley
Something like this for the polish wheel adaptor ?

https://www.amazon.com/Spindle-Adapter-mounting-polishing-Woodworking/dp/B07RT5NG3N

 

Bill

 

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Okla Mike (Liltwisted)
Sent: Tuesday, 18 October 2022 9:49 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5

 

Here you go, I knew I wasn't going to get away with just a post.

On 10/17/2022 5:21 PM, Tim Ziegler wrote:

Mike can you send a pic or so of your design too?


Kind Regards, 

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Mon, Oct 17, 2022 at 5:19 PM Okla Mike (Liltwisted)  
wrote:

Shop Smith has a 5/8" smooth shaft.  What I did was use the #2mt to 5/8" 
adapter SS uses to put a drill chuck into the tail stock.  I installed it on 
the Legacy drive so then I could just use the SS normal drive spur on both 
machines.  If you are wanting to use the drive dogs on the SS look at motor 
accessories and find a polish wheel adapter that will fit a 5/8" motor shaft.  
Then I ordered a unmounted female side dog plate from Legacy and welded it onto 
the polish wheel shaft.  I trimmed off the excess shaft and now I was ready to 
set-screw it onto the SS.  These two set-ups will allow you to use either a 
spur or drive dogs.

Mike
OK

On 10/17/2022 10:59 AM, 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills wrote:

Thank you Bill for the great info for us beginners. 

I’m sure this has been brought up before but how is the best way to go from LOM 
to Shopsmith lathe or vice versa. And if special made connectors could you send 
pics?

Thanks

Denson

Sent from Denson's iPhone





On Oct 17, 2022, at 7:32 AM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au 
<mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au>  wrote:

 

I wouldn’t say toolmaker we learnt how to silver braze tips as an apprentice 
and hand grinding tools for the metal lathe as 

Part of the trade.

Insertable carbide tips were just becoming popular back then there were no 
where near the amount of different shapes

There is now so brazed carbide was still around and in use, recycling used 
inserts wasn’t the thing much then 

So I could get handfuls of old used inserts which I still have all these years 
later. insert tools were expensive back then

So making your own was the logical thing to do I don’t know why it hasn’t 
become popular in wood turning tools today

A nice piece of high tensile steel and some old used inserts and you can have a 
$300 lathe tool it’s a no brainer really.

But after saying all this I couldn’t make router bits you need specialised 
grinding and milling machines for that.

Much easier just to buy them or insert router bits.

 

Bill

 

 

 

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>   
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
 On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Monday, 17 October 2022 9:41 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5

 

Wow Bill, so your a tool maker too. Now I'm even more impressed. lol

I agree there are plenty of imports that can be as good, if they have good 
quality control for sure. 




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 10:48 PM mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote:

I do remember the silver brazed on bits I used them lots in my days in the 
metal trade 

And I make them still in my shop they were great when you needed a custom shape 
tool

I use used blunt inserts and braze them on to a blank and they work as good as 
any insert 

Because they are an insert.

Anyway that tool your showing here is only a 2 flute where mine is 3 

Because I am poor I would buy the cheaper cutter but buy the high quality 
inserts and put in it 

Provided they fit, easy wood lathe tool inserts fit in mine and I find them 
quite good.

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Monday, 17 October 2022 1:09 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5

 

Well in my opinion and this will go back a while back on carbide. 

Brazed on Carbide is not usually as hard of grade, as the inserts. 

The insert carbide is a better bet and will out last a brazed on but

at least 4 times as long on just one edge. then you have 3 more edges to 

change out. But you have to buy a good brand. As the china carbide is

not as good as other brands.  See li

Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5

2022-10-17 Thread Tim Ziegler
of course not lol. Don't want to make it easy on ya Mike.
Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Mon, Oct 17, 2022 at 5:49 PM Okla Mike (Liltwisted) <
legacym...@iglide.net> wrote:

> Here you go, I knew I wasn't going to get away with just a post.
> On 10/17/2022 5:21 PM, Tim Ziegler wrote:
>
> Mike can you send a pic or so of your design too?
> Kind Regards,
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
> On Mon, Oct 17, 2022 at 5:19 PM Okla Mike (Liltwisted) <
> legacym...@iglide.net> wrote:
>
>> Shop Smith has a 5/8" smooth shaft.  What I did was use the #2mt to 5/8"
>> adapter SS uses to put a drill chuck into the tail stock.  I installed it
>> on the Legacy drive so then I could just use the SS normal drive spur on
>> both machines.  If you are wanting to use the drive dogs on the SS look at
>> motor accessories and find a polish wheel adapter that will fit a 5/8"
>> motor shaft.  Then I ordered a unmounted female side dog plate from Legacy
>> and welded it onto the polish wheel shaft.  I trimmed off the excess shaft
>> and now I was ready to set-screw it onto the SS.  These two set-ups will
>> allow you to use either a spur or drive dogs.
>>
>> Mike
>> OK
>> On 10/17/2022 10:59 AM, 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills wrote:
>>
>> Thank you Bill for the great info for us beginners.
>> I’m sure this has been brought up before but how is the best way to go
>> from LOM to Shopsmith lathe or vice versa. And if special made connectors
>> could you send pics?
>> Thanks
>> Denson
>>
>> Sent from Denson's iPhone
>>
>> On Oct 17, 2022, at 7:32 AM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:
>>
>> 
>>
>> I wouldn’t say toolmaker we learnt how to silver braze tips as an
>> apprentice and hand grinding tools for the metal lathe as
>>
>> Part of the trade.
>>
>> Insertable carbide tips were just becoming popular back then there were
>> no where near the amount of different shapes
>>
>> There is now so brazed carbide was still around and in use, recycling
>> used inserts wasn’t the thing much then
>>
>> So I could get handfuls of old used inserts which I still have all these
>> years later. insert tools were expensive back then
>>
>> So making your own was the logical thing to do I don’t know why it hasn’t
>> become popular in wood turning tools today
>>
>> A nice piece of high tensile steel and some old used inserts and you can
>> have a $300 lathe tool it’s a no brainer really.
>>
>> But after saying all this I couldn’t make router bits you need
>> specialised grinding and milling machines for that.
>>
>> Much easier just to buy them or insert router bits.
>>
>>
>>
>> Bill
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
>> 
>>  *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
>> *Sent:* Monday, 17 October 2022 9:41 PM
>> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
>> *Subject:* Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5
>>
>>
>>
>> Wow Bill, so your a tool maker too. Now I'm even more impressed. lol
>>
>> I agree there are plenty of imports that can be as good, if they have
>> good quality control for sure.
>>
>>
>> Kind Regards,
>>
>>
>>
>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>>
>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>>
>> 14171 160th Ave.
>>
>> Foreston MN 56330
>>
>>
>>
>> 320-294-5798 shop
>>
>> 320-630-2243 cell
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 10:48 PM  wrote:
>>
>> I do remember the silver brazed on bits I used them lots in my days in
>> the metal trade
>>
>> And I make them still in my shop they were great when you needed a custom
>> shape tool
>>
>> I use used blunt inserts and braze them on to a blank and they work as
>> good as any insert
>>
>> Because they are an insert.
>>
>> Anyway that tool your showing here is only a 2 flute where mine is 3
>>
>> Because I am poor I would buy the cheaper cutter but buy the high quality
>> inserts and put in it
>>
>> Provided they fit, easy wood lathe tool inserts fit in mine and I find
>> them quite good.
>>
>>
>>
>> B

Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5

2022-10-17 Thread Tim Ziegler
Mike can you send a pic or so of your design too?
Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Mon, Oct 17, 2022 at 5:19 PM Okla Mike (Liltwisted) <
legacym...@iglide.net> wrote:

> Shop Smith has a 5/8" smooth shaft.  What I did was use the #2mt to 5/8"
> adapter SS uses to put a drill chuck into the tail stock.  I installed it
> on the Legacy drive so then I could just use the SS normal drive spur on
> both machines.  If you are wanting to use the drive dogs on the SS look at
> motor accessories and find a polish wheel adapter that will fit a 5/8"
> motor shaft.  Then I ordered a unmounted female side dog plate from Legacy
> and welded it onto the polish wheel shaft.  I trimmed off the excess shaft
> and now I was ready to set-screw it onto the SS.  These two set-ups will
> allow you to use either a spur or drive dogs.
>
> Mike
> OK
> On 10/17/2022 10:59 AM, 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills wrote:
>
> Thank you Bill for the great info for us beginners.
> I’m sure this has been brought up before but how is the best way to go
> from LOM to Shopsmith lathe or vice versa. And if special made connectors
> could you send pics?
> Thanks
> Denson
>
> Sent from Denson's iPhone
>
> On Oct 17, 2022, at 7:32 AM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:
>
> 
>
> I wouldn’t say toolmaker we learnt how to silver braze tips as an
> apprentice and hand grinding tools for the metal lathe as
>
> Part of the trade.
>
> Insertable carbide tips were just becoming popular back then there were no
> where near the amount of different shapes
>
> There is now so brazed carbide was still around and in use, recycling used
> inserts wasn’t the thing much then
>
> So I could get handfuls of old used inserts which I still have all these
> years later. insert tools were expensive back then
>
> So making your own was the logical thing to do I don’t know why it hasn’t
> become popular in wood turning tools today
>
> A nice piece of high tensile steel and some old used inserts and you can
> have a $300 lathe tool it’s a no brainer really.
>
> But after saying all this I couldn’t make router bits you need specialised
> grinding and milling machines for that.
>
> Much easier just to buy them or insert router bits.
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> 
>  *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Monday, 17 October 2022 9:41 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5
>
>
>
> Wow Bill, so your a tool maker too. Now I'm even more impressed. lol
>
> I agree there are plenty of imports that can be as good, if they have good
> quality control for sure.
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 10:48 PM  wrote:
>
> I do remember the silver brazed on bits I used them lots in my days in the
> metal trade
>
> And I make them still in my shop they were great when you needed a custom
> shape tool
>
> I use used blunt inserts and braze them on to a blank and they work as
> good as any insert
>
> Because they are an insert.
>
> Anyway that tool your showing here is only a 2 flute where mine is 3
>
> Because I am poor I would buy the cheaper cutter but buy the high quality
> inserts and put in it
>
> Provided they fit, easy wood lathe tool inserts fit in mine and I find
> them quite good.
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Monday, 17 October 2022 1:09 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5
>
>
>
> Well in my opinion and this will go back a while back on carbide.
>
> Brazed on Carbide is not usually as hard of grade, as the inserts.
>
> The insert carbide is a better bet and will out last a brazed on but
>
> at least 4 times as long on just one edge. then you have 3 more edges to
>
> change out. But you have to buy a good brand. As the china carbide is
>
> not as good as other brands.  See link:
>
>
> https://www.acmetools.com/freud-spoilboard-surfacing-rabbeting-bit-tm1465/008925135593.html
>
>
>
> Freud's bits are expensive but I tend to favor them, having most of my
> everyday router bit

Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5

2022-10-17 Thread Tim Ziegler
that's a great start, too.
Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Mon, Oct 17, 2022 at 4:35 PM  wrote:

> Something like this
> https://www.amazon.com/Steel-Lathe-Plate-Shopsmith-machines/dp/B07YM2Q96R
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *
> bulke...@mmnet.com.au
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 18 October 2022 8:33 AM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* RE: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5
>
>
>
> If I needed an adaptor I would turn one on the metal lathe
>
>
>
> A shop smith face plate that slips on that shaft  with 4 even holes
> drilled in its face that fit the legacy drive hub
>
> Would be where I would start.
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 18 October 2022 5:43 AM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5
>
>
>
> No our shopsmiths have a straight shaft with a flat. No place for a taper.
>
> You can get an adapter for the shopsmith that you can get from PennState
> exclusive for the shopsmith.
>
>
>
> *https://www.pennstateind.com/store/L5818.html
> <https://www.pennstateind.com/store/L5818.html>*
>
>
>
> then you can spin a chuck on the Shopsmith and then maybe you could turn a
> #2 morse taper down to
>
> 1/2 and chuck it up
>
> Just thoughts but that is what I'd do.
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Oct 17, 2022 at 12:06 PM  wrote:
>
> Curt can answer that one he does it all the time I don’t have a shop smith
>
> But if your shopsmith has a number 2 morse taper in its headstock
>
> Legacys drive hub will fit right in it. That’s what I do in my nova wood
> lathe
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 18 October 2022 2:59 AM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5
>
>
>
> Thank you Bill for the great info for us beginners.
>
> I’m sure this has been brought up before but how is the best way to go
> from LOM to Shopsmith lathe or vice versa. And if special made connectors
> could you send pics?
>
> Thanks
>
> Denson
>
> Sent from Denson's iPhone
>
>
>
> On Oct 17, 2022, at 7:32 AM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:
>
> 
>
> I wouldn’t say toolmaker we learnt how to silver braze tips as an
> apprentice and hand grinding tools for the metal lathe as
>
> Part of the trade.
>
> Insertable carbide tips were just becoming popular back then there were no
> where near the amount of different shapes
>
> There is now so brazed carbide was still around and in use, recycling used
> inserts wasn’t the thing much then
>
> So I could get handfuls of old used inserts which I still have all these
> years later. insert tools were expensive back then
>
> So making your own was the logical thing to do I don’t know why it hasn’t
> become popular in wood turning tools today
>
> A nice piece of high tensile steel and some old used inserts and you can
> have a $300 lathe tool it’s a no brainer really.
>
> But after saying all this I couldn’t make router bits you need specialised
> grinding and milling machines for that.
>
> Much easier just to buy them or insert router bits.
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Monday, 17 October 2022 9:41 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5
>
>
>
> Wow Bill, so your a tool maker too. Now I'm even more impressed. lol
>
> I agree there are plenty of imports that can be as good, if they have good
> quality control for sure.
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Oct

Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5

2022-10-17 Thread Tim Ziegler
hey now there you go coming up with solutions for our problems again. Wow
Bill "Johnny on the spot"
Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Mon, Oct 17, 2022 at 4:32 PM  wrote:

> If I needed an adaptor I would turn one on the metal lathe
>
>
>
> A shop smith face plate that slips on that shaft  with 4 even holes
> drilled in its face that fit the legacy drive hub
>
> Would be where I would start.
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 18 October 2022 5:43 AM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5
>
>
>
> No our shopsmiths have a straight shaft with a flat. No place for a taper.
>
> You can get an adapter for the shopsmith that you can get from PennState
> exclusive for the shopsmith.
>
>
>
> *https://www.pennstateind.com/store/L5818.html
> <https://www.pennstateind.com/store/L5818.html>*
>
>
>
> then you can spin a chuck on the Shopsmith and then maybe you could turn a
> #2 morse taper down to
>
> 1/2 and chuck it up
>
> Just thoughts but that is what I'd do.
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Oct 17, 2022 at 12:06 PM  wrote:
>
> Curt can answer that one he does it all the time I don’t have a shop smith
>
> But if your shopsmith has a number 2 morse taper in its headstock
>
> Legacys drive hub will fit right in it. That’s what I do in my nova wood
> lathe
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 18 October 2022 2:59 AM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5
>
>
>
> Thank you Bill for the great info for us beginners.
>
> I’m sure this has been brought up before but how is the best way to go
> from LOM to Shopsmith lathe or vice versa. And if special made connectors
> could you send pics?
>
> Thanks
>
> Denson
>
> Sent from Denson's iPhone
>
>
>
> On Oct 17, 2022, at 7:32 AM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:
>
> 
>
> I wouldn’t say toolmaker we learnt how to silver braze tips as an
> apprentice and hand grinding tools for the metal lathe as
>
> Part of the trade.
>
> Insertable carbide tips were just becoming popular back then there were no
> where near the amount of different shapes
>
> There is now so brazed carbide was still around and in use, recycling used
> inserts wasn’t the thing much then
>
> So I could get handfuls of old used inserts which I still have all these
> years later. insert tools were expensive back then
>
> So making your own was the logical thing to do I don’t know why it hasn’t
> become popular in wood turning tools today
>
> A nice piece of high tensile steel and some old used inserts and you can
> have a $300 lathe tool it’s a no brainer really.
>
> But after saying all this I couldn’t make router bits you need specialised
> grinding and milling machines for that.
>
> Much easier just to buy them or insert router bits.
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Monday, 17 October 2022 9:41 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5
>
>
>
> Wow Bill, so your a tool maker too. Now I'm even more impressed. lol
>
> I agree there are plenty of imports that can be as good, if they have good
> quality control for sure.
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 10:48 PM  wrote:
>
> I do remember the silver brazed on bits I used them lots in my days in the
> metal trade
>
> And I make them still in my shop they were great when you needed a custom
> shape tool
>
> I use used blunt inserts and braze them on to a blank and they work as
> good as any insert
>
> Because they are an insert.
>
> Anyway that to

Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5

2022-10-17 Thread Tim Ziegler
Yes he will Bill but not till late tonight when he gets off work.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Mon, Oct 17, 2022 at 4:12 PM  wrote:

> I’m almost positive curt made something that makes it happen I’m sure he
> will jump in and answer that
>
> Soon
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 18 October 2022 5:23 AM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5
>
>
>
> Thanks Bill. The SS does not have a 2MT.
>
> Denson
>
> Sent from Denson's iPhone
>
>
>
> On Oct 17, 2022, at 12:06 PM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:
>
> 
>
> Curt can answer that one he does it all the time I don’t have a shop smith
>
> But if your shopsmith has a number 2 morse taper in its headstock
>
> Legacys drive hub will fit right in it. That’s what I do in my nova wood
> lathe
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 18 October 2022 2:59 AM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5
>
>
>
> Thank you Bill for the great info for us beginners.
>
> I’m sure this has been brought up before but how is the best way to go
> from LOM to Shopsmith lathe or vice versa. And if special made connectors
> could you send pics?
>
> Thanks
>
> Denson
>
> Sent from Denson's iPhone
>
>
>
>
> On Oct 17, 2022, at 7:32 AM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:
>
> 
>
> I wouldn’t say toolmaker we learnt how to silver braze tips as an
> apprentice and hand grinding tools for the metal lathe as
>
> Part of the trade.
>
> Insertable carbide tips were just becoming popular back then there were no
> where near the amount of different shapes
>
> There is now so brazed carbide was still around and in use, recycling used
> inserts wasn’t the thing much then
>
> So I could get handfuls of old used inserts which I still have all these
> years later. insert tools were expensive back then
>
> So making your own was the logical thing to do I don’t know why it hasn’t
> become popular in wood turning tools today
>
> A nice piece of high tensile steel and some old used inserts and you can
> have a $300 lathe tool it’s a no brainer really.
>
> But after saying all this I couldn’t make router bits you need specialised
> grinding and milling machines for that.
>
> Much easier just to buy them or insert router bits.
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Monday, 17 October 2022 9:41 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5
>
>
>
> Wow Bill, so your a tool maker too. Now I'm even more impressed. lol
>
> I agree there are plenty of imports that can be as good, if they have good
> quality control for sure.
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 10:48 PM  wrote:
>
> I do remember the silver brazed on bits I used them lots in my days in the
> metal trade
>
> And I make them still in my shop they were great when you needed a custom
> shape tool
>
> I use used blunt inserts and braze them on to a blank and they work as
> good as any insert
>
> Because they are an insert.
>
> Anyway that tool your showing here is only a 2 flute where mine is 3
>
> Because I am poor I would buy the cheaper cutter but buy the high quality
> inserts and put in it
>
> Provided they fit, easy wood lathe tool inserts fit in mine and I find
> them quite good.
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Monday, 17 October 2022 1:09 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5
>
>
>
> Well in my opinion and this will go back a while back on carbide.
>
> Brazed on Carbide is not usually as hard of grade, as the inserts.
>
> The insert carbide is a bett

Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5

2022-10-17 Thread Tim Ziegler
Don't be so hard on yourself Bill. You're a man with a wealth of
knowledge and skill. Don't you forget it lol.
Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Mon, Oct 17, 2022 at 4:02 PM  wrote:

> Don’t know about that I’m just an old bloke fooling
>
> Around in a shed lol
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 18 October 2022 5:05 AM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5
>
>
>
> Thanks Bill good info. Now I can grind HSS router bits here at the shop,
> and face grind carbide.
>
> I'd have to get another wheel for my grinder to to profiles on router
> bits.
>
> Does sound like your a "Jack of all Trades" for sure.
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Oct 17, 2022 at 7:04 AM  wrote:
>
> I wouldn’t say toolmaker we learnt how to silver braze tips as an
> apprentice and hand grinding tools for the metal lathe as
>
> Part of the trade.
>
> Insertable carbide tips were just becoming popular back then there were no
> where near the amount of different shapes
>
> There is now so brazed carbide was still around and in use, recycling used
> inserts wasn’t the thing much then
>
> So I could get handfuls of old used inserts which I still have all these
> years later. insert tools were expensive back then
>
> So making your own was the logical thing to do I don’t know why it hasn’t
> become popular in wood turning tools today
>
> A nice piece of high tensile steel and some old used inserts and you can
> have a $300 lathe tool it’s a no brainer really.
>
> But after saying all this I couldn’t make router bits you need specialised
> grinding and milling machines for that.
>
> Much easier just to buy them or insert router bits.
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Monday, 17 October 2022 9:41 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5
>
>
>
> Wow Bill, so your a tool maker too. Now I'm even more impressed. lol
>
> I agree there are plenty of imports that can be as good, if they have good
> quality control for sure.
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 10:48 PM  wrote:
>
> I do remember the silver brazed on bits I used them lots in my days in the
> metal trade
>
> And I make them still in my shop they were great when you needed a custom
> shape tool
>
> I use used blunt inserts and braze them on to a blank and they work as
> good as any insert
>
> Because they are an insert.
>
> Anyway that tool your showing here is only a 2 flute where mine is 3
>
> Because I am poor I would buy the cheaper cutter but buy the high quality
> inserts and put in it
>
> Provided they fit, easy wood lathe tool inserts fit in mine and I find
> them quite good.
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Monday, 17 October 2022 1:09 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5
>
>
>
> Well in my opinion and this will go back a while back on carbide.
>
> Brazed on Carbide is not usually as hard of grade, as the inserts.
>
> The insert carbide is a better bet and will out last a brazed on but
>
> at least 4 times as long on just one edge. then you have 3 more edges to
>
> change out. But you have to buy a good brand. As the china carbide is
>
> not as good as other brands.  See link:
>
>
> https://www.acmetools.com/freud-spoilboard-surfacing-rabbeting-bit-tm1465/008925135593.html
>
>
>
> Freud's bits are expensive but I tend to favor them, having most of my
> everyday router bits being freud.
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler Wood

RE: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5

2022-10-17 Thread bulkeley
Something like this 
https://www.amazon.com/Steel-Lathe-Plate-Shopsmith-machines/dp/B07YM2Q96R

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of bulke...@mmnet.com.au
Sent: Tuesday, 18 October 2022 8:33 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5

 

If I needed an adaptor I would turn one on the metal lathe 

 

A shop smith face plate that slips on that shaft  with 4 even holes drilled in 
its face that fit the legacy drive hub 

Would be where I would start.

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Tuesday, 18 October 2022 5:43 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5

 

No our shopsmiths have a straight shaft with a flat. No place for a taper. 

You can get an adapter for the shopsmith that you can get from PennState 
exclusive for the shopsmith.

 

https://www.pennstateind.com/store/L5818.html

 

then you can spin a chuck on the Shopsmith and then maybe you could turn a #2 
morse taper down to 

1/2 and chuck it up

Just thoughts but that is what I'd do. 


Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Mon, Oct 17, 2022 at 12:06 PM mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote:

Curt can answer that one he does it all the time I don’t have a shop smith 

But if your shopsmith has a number 2 morse taper in its headstock 

Legacys drive hub will fit right in it. That’s what I do in my nova wood lathe

 

Bill

 

From: 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > 
Sent: Tuesday, 18 October 2022 2:59 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5

 

Thank you Bill for the great info for us beginners.

I’m sure this has been brought up before but how is the best way to go from LOM 
to Shopsmith lathe or vice versa. And if special made connectors could you send 
pics?

Thanks

Denson

Sent from Denson's iPhone

 

On Oct 17, 2022, at 7:32 AM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au 
<mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au>  wrote:



I wouldn’t say toolmaker we learnt how to silver braze tips as an apprentice 
and hand grinding tools for the metal lathe as 

Part of the trade.

Insertable carbide tips were just becoming popular back then there were no 
where near the amount of different shapes

There is now so brazed carbide was still around and in use, recycling used 
inserts wasn’t the thing much then 

So I could get handfuls of old used inserts which I still have all these years 
later. insert tools were expensive back then

So making your own was the logical thing to do I don’t know why it hasn’t 
become popular in wood turning tools today

A nice piece of high tensile steel and some old used inserts and you can have a 
$300 lathe tool it’s a no brainer really.

But after saying all this I couldn’t make router bits you need specialised 
grinding and milling machines for that.

Much easier just to buy them or insert router bits.

 

Bill

 

 

 

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Monday, 17 October 2022 9:41 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5

 

Wow Bill, so your a tool maker too. Now I'm even more impressed. lol

I agree there are plenty of imports that can be as good, if they have good 
quality control for sure. 




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 10:48 PM mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote:

I do remember the silver brazed on bits I used them lots in my days in the 
metal trade 

And I make them still in my shop they were great when you needed a custom shape 
tool

I use used blunt inserts and braze them on to a blank and they work as good as 
any insert 

Because they are an insert.

Anyway that tool your showing here is only a 2 flute where mine is 3 

Because I am poor I would buy the cheaper cutter but buy the high quality 
inserts and put in it 

Provided they fit, easy wood lathe tool inserts fit in mine and I find them 
quite good.

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googl

RE: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5

2022-10-17 Thread bulkeley
If I needed an adaptor I would turn one on the metal lathe 

 

A shop smith face plate that slips on that shaft  with 4 even holes drilled in 
its face that fit the legacy drive hub 

Would be where I would start.

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Tuesday, 18 October 2022 5:43 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5

 

No our shopsmiths have a straight shaft with a flat. No place for a taper. 

You can get an adapter for the shopsmith that you can get from PennState 
exclusive for the shopsmith.

 

https://www.pennstateind.com/store/L5818.html

 

then you can spin a chuck on the Shopsmith and then maybe you could turn a #2 
morse taper down to 

1/2 and chuck it up

Just thoughts but that is what I'd do. 


Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Mon, Oct 17, 2022 at 12:06 PM mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote:

Curt can answer that one he does it all the time I don’t have a shop smith 

But if your shopsmith has a number 2 morse taper in its headstock 

Legacys drive hub will fit right in it. That’s what I do in my nova wood lathe

 

Bill

 

From: 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > 
Sent: Tuesday, 18 October 2022 2:59 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5

 

Thank you Bill for the great info for us beginners.

I’m sure this has been brought up before but how is the best way to go from LOM 
to Shopsmith lathe or vice versa. And if special made connectors could you send 
pics?

Thanks

Denson

Sent from Denson's iPhone

 

On Oct 17, 2022, at 7:32 AM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au 
<mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au>  wrote:



I wouldn’t say toolmaker we learnt how to silver braze tips as an apprentice 
and hand grinding tools for the metal lathe as 

Part of the trade.

Insertable carbide tips were just becoming popular back then there were no 
where near the amount of different shapes

There is now so brazed carbide was still around and in use, recycling used 
inserts wasn’t the thing much then 

So I could get handfuls of old used inserts which I still have all these years 
later. insert tools were expensive back then

So making your own was the logical thing to do I don’t know why it hasn’t 
become popular in wood turning tools today

A nice piece of high tensile steel and some old used inserts and you can have a 
$300 lathe tool it’s a no brainer really.

But after saying all this I couldn’t make router bits you need specialised 
grinding and milling machines for that.

Much easier just to buy them or insert router bits.

 

Bill

 

 

 

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Monday, 17 October 2022 9:41 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5

 

Wow Bill, so your a tool maker too. Now I'm even more impressed. lol

I agree there are plenty of imports that can be as good, if they have good 
quality control for sure. 




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 10:48 PM mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote:

I do remember the silver brazed on bits I used them lots in my days in the 
metal trade 

And I make them still in my shop they were great when you needed a custom shape 
tool

I use used blunt inserts and braze them on to a blank and they work as good as 
any insert 

Because they are an insert.

Anyway that tool your showing here is only a 2 flute where mine is 3 

Because I am poor I would buy the cheaper cutter but buy the high quality 
inserts and put in it 

Provided they fit, easy wood lathe tool inserts fit in mine and I find them 
quite good.

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Monday, 17 October 2022 1:09 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5

 

Well in my opinion and this will go back a while back on carbide. 

Brazed on Carbide is not usually as hard of grade, as the inserts. 

The insert carbide is a better bet and will out last a brazed on but

at least 4 times as long on just one edge. then you have 3 mo

RE: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5

2022-10-17 Thread bulkeley
I’m almost positive curt made something that makes it happen I’m sure he will 
jump in and answer that 

Soon

 

Bill

 

From: 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 
Sent: Tuesday, 18 October 2022 5:23 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5

 

Thanks Bill. The SS does not have a 2MT.

Denson

Sent from Denson's iPhone





On Oct 17, 2022, at 12:06 PM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au 
<mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au>  wrote:



Curt can answer that one he does it all the time I don’t have a shop smith 

But if your shopsmith has a number 2 morse taper in its headstock 

Legacys drive hub will fit right in it. That’s what I do in my nova wood lathe

 

Bill

 

From: 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > 
Sent: Tuesday, 18 October 2022 2:59 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5

 

Thank you Bill for the great info for us beginners.

I’m sure this has been brought up before but how is the best way to go from LOM 
to Shopsmith lathe or vice versa. And if special made connectors could you send 
pics?

Thanks

Denson

Sent from Denson's iPhone






On Oct 17, 2022, at 7:32 AM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au 
<mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au>  wrote:



I wouldn’t say toolmaker we learnt how to silver braze tips as an apprentice 
and hand grinding tools for the metal lathe as 

Part of the trade.

Insertable carbide tips were just becoming popular back then there were no 
where near the amount of different shapes

There is now so brazed carbide was still around and in use, recycling used 
inserts wasn’t the thing much then 

So I could get handfuls of old used inserts which I still have all these years 
later. insert tools were expensive back then

So making your own was the logical thing to do I don’t know why it hasn’t 
become popular in wood turning tools today

A nice piece of high tensile steel and some old used inserts and you can have a 
$300 lathe tool it’s a no brainer really.

But after saying all this I couldn’t make router bits you need specialised 
grinding and milling machines for that.

Much easier just to buy them or insert router bits.

 

Bill

 

 

 

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Monday, 17 October 2022 9:41 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5

 

Wow Bill, so your a tool maker too. Now I'm even more impressed. lol

I agree there are plenty of imports that can be as good, if they have good 
quality control for sure. 




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 10:48 PM mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote:

I do remember the silver brazed on bits I used them lots in my days in the 
metal trade 

And I make them still in my shop they were great when you needed a custom shape 
tool

I use used blunt inserts and braze them on to a blank and they work as good as 
any insert 

Because they are an insert.

Anyway that tool your showing here is only a 2 flute where mine is 3 

Because I am poor I would buy the cheaper cutter but buy the high quality 
inserts and put in it 

Provided they fit, easy wood lathe tool inserts fit in mine and I find them 
quite good.

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Monday, 17 October 2022 1:09 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5

 

Well in my opinion and this will go back a while back on carbide. 

Brazed on Carbide is not usually as hard of grade, as the inserts. 

The insert carbide is a better bet and will out last a brazed on but

at least 4 times as long on just one edge. then you have 3 more edges to 

change out. But you have to buy a good brand. As the china carbide is

not as good as other brands.  See link:

https://www.acmetools.com/freud-spoilboard-surfacing-rabbeting-bit-tm1465/008925135593.html

 

Freud's bits are expensive but I tend to favor them, having most of my everyday 
router bits being freud. 




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 8:32 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamenta

RE: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5

2022-10-17 Thread bulkeley
Don’t know about that I’m just an old bloke fooling

Around in a shed lol

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Tuesday, 18 October 2022 5:05 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5

 

Thanks Bill good info. Now I can grind HSS router bits here at the shop, and 
face grind carbide. 

I'd have to get another wheel for my grinder to to profiles on router bits. 

Does sound like your a "Jack of all Trades" for sure. 




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Mon, Oct 17, 2022 at 7:04 AM mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote:

I wouldn’t say toolmaker we learnt how to silver braze tips as an apprentice 
and hand grinding tools for the metal lathe as 

Part of the trade.

Insertable carbide tips were just becoming popular back then there were no 
where near the amount of different shapes

There is now so brazed carbide was still around and in use, recycling used 
inserts wasn’t the thing much then 

So I could get handfuls of old used inserts which I still have all these years 
later. insert tools were expensive back then

So making your own was the logical thing to do I don’t know why it hasn’t 
become popular in wood turning tools today

A nice piece of high tensile steel and some old used inserts and you can have a 
$300 lathe tool it’s a no brainer really.

But after saying all this I couldn’t make router bits you need specialised 
grinding and milling machines for that.

Much easier just to buy them or insert router bits.

 

Bill

 

 

 

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Monday, 17 October 2022 9:41 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5

 

Wow Bill, so your a tool maker too. Now I'm even more impressed. lol

I agree there are plenty of imports that can be as good, if they have good 
quality control for sure. 




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 10:48 PM mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote:

I do remember the silver brazed on bits I used them lots in my days in the 
metal trade 

And I make them still in my shop they were great when you needed a custom shape 
tool

I use used blunt inserts and braze them on to a blank and they work as good as 
any insert 

Because they are an insert.

Anyway that tool your showing here is only a 2 flute where mine is 3 

Because I am poor I would buy the cheaper cutter but buy the high quality 
inserts and put in it 

Provided they fit, easy wood lathe tool inserts fit in mine and I find them 
quite good.

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Monday, 17 October 2022 1:09 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5

 

Well in my opinion and this will go back a while back on carbide. 

Brazed on Carbide is not usually as hard of grade, as the inserts. 

The insert carbide is a better bet and will out last a brazed on but

at least 4 times as long on just one edge. then you have 3 more edges to 

change out. But you have to buy a good brand. As the china carbide is

not as good as other brands.  See link:

https://www.acmetools.com/freud-spoilboard-surfacing-rabbeting-bit-tm1465/008925135593.html

 

Freud's bits are expensive but I tend to favor them, having most of my everyday 
router bits being freud. 




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 8:32 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > wrote:

I agree that one is not badly priced. But what I want it first hand info. 

Do you OR anyone in this group, think the replicable blades are as good or 
better then the normal carbide router bit? I would really like to know what you 
think?

 

C.A.G.

 

On Sunday, October 16, 2022 at 09:27:03 PM EDT, Tim Ziegler 
mailto:timjzieg...@gmail.com> > wrote: 

 

 

https://www.amazon.com/Spoilboard-Router-Bit-Carbide-NITOMAK/dp/B085QGLHB4/ref=sr_1_10?crid=1Y7QN81UFU3J1
 
<https://www.amazon.com/Spoilboard-Router-Bit-Carbide-NITOMAK/dp/B085QGLHB4/ref=sr_1_10?crid=1Y7QN81UFU3J1&

Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5

2022-10-17 Thread Tim Ziegler
Yup and I am pretty sure Curt will be your man. I thought he showed a pic
of one a while back.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Mon, Oct 17, 2022 at 2:08 PM 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills
 wrote:

> Thanks Tim. I was thinking someone here has fab one that can go from SS to
> LOM but I can’t remember who.
> Thanks
> Denson
>
>
>
> Sent from Denson's iPhone
>
> On Oct 17, 2022, at 1:44 PM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:
>
> 
> oh and I think Curt welded up an adapter and yes he'd have pix.
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
> On Mon, Oct 17, 2022 at 12:06 PM  wrote:
>
>> Curt can answer that one he does it all the time I don’t have a shop
>> smith
>>
>> But if your shopsmith has a number 2 morse taper in its headstock
>>
>> Legacys drive hub will fit right in it. That’s what I do in my nova wood
>> lathe
>>
>>
>>
>> Bill
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
>> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, 18 October 2022 2:59 AM
>> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
>> *Subject:* Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5
>>
>>
>>
>> Thank you Bill for the great info for us beginners.
>>
>> I’m sure this has been brought up before but how is the best way to go
>> from LOM to Shopsmith lathe or vice versa. And if special made connectors
>> could you send pics?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Denson
>>
>> Sent from Denson's iPhone
>>
>>
>>
>> On Oct 17, 2022, at 7:32 AM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:
>>
>> 
>>
>> I wouldn’t say toolmaker we learnt how to silver braze tips as an
>> apprentice and hand grinding tools for the metal lathe as
>>
>> Part of the trade.
>>
>> Insertable carbide tips were just becoming popular back then there were
>> no where near the amount of different shapes
>>
>> There is now so brazed carbide was still around and in use, recycling
>> used inserts wasn’t the thing much then
>>
>> So I could get handfuls of old used inserts which I still have all these
>> years later. insert tools were expensive back then
>>
>> So making your own was the logical thing to do I don’t know why it hasn’t
>> become popular in wood turning tools today
>>
>> A nice piece of high tensile steel and some old used inserts and you can
>> have a $300 lathe tool it’s a no brainer really.
>>
>> But after saying all this I couldn’t make router bits you need
>> specialised grinding and milling machines for that.
>>
>> Much easier just to buy them or insert router bits.
>>
>>
>>
>> Bill
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
>> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
>> *Sent:* Monday, 17 October 2022 9:41 PM
>> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
>> *Subject:* Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5
>>
>>
>>
>> Wow Bill, so your a tool maker too. Now I'm even more impressed. lol
>>
>> I agree there are plenty of imports that can be as good, if they have
>> good quality control for sure.
>>
>>
>> Kind Regards,
>>
>>
>>
>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>>
>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>>
>> 14171 160th Ave.
>>
>> Foreston MN 56330
>>
>>
>>
>> 320-294-5798 shop
>>
>> 320-630-2243 cell
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 10:48 PM  wrote:
>>
>> I do remember the silver brazed on bits I used them lots in my days in
>> the metal trade
>>
>> And I make them still in my shop they were great when you needed a custom
>> shape tool
>>
>> I use used blunt inserts and braze them on to a blank and they work as
>> good as any insert
>>
>> Because they are an insert.
>>
>> Anyway that tool your showing here is only a 2 flute where mine is 3
>>
>> Because I am poor I would buy the cheaper cutter but buy the high quality
>> inserts and put in it
>>
>> Provided they fit, easy wood lathe tool inserts fit in mine and I find
>> them quite good.
>

Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5

2022-10-17 Thread 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills
Thanks Tim. I was thinking someone here has fab one that can go from SS to LOM 
but I can’t remember who.
Thanks
Denson



Sent from Denson's iPhone

> On Oct 17, 2022, at 1:44 PM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:
> 
> 
> oh and I think Curt welded up an adapter and yes he'd have pix. 
> 
> Kind Regards,
> 
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
> 
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
> 
> 
>> On Mon, Oct 17, 2022 at 12:06 PM  wrote:
>> Curt can answer that one he does it all the time I don’t have a shop smith
>> 
>> But if your shopsmith has a number 2 morse taper in its headstock
>> 
>> Legacys drive hub will fit right in it. That’s what I do in my nova wood 
>> lathe
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Bill
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> From: 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
>>  
>> Sent: Tuesday, 18 October 2022 2:59 AM
>> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Thank you Bill for the great info for us beginners.
>> 
>> I’m sure this has been brought up before but how is the best way to go from 
>> LOM to Shopsmith lathe or vice versa. And if special made connectors could 
>> you send pics?
>> 
>> Thanks
>> 
>> Denson
>> 
>> Sent from Denson's iPhone
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Oct 17, 2022, at 7:32 AM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I wouldn’t say toolmaker we learnt how to silver braze tips as an apprentice 
>> and hand grinding tools for the metal lathe as
>> 
>> Part of the trade.
>> 
>> Insertable carbide tips were just becoming popular back then there were no 
>> where near the amount of different shapes
>> 
>> There is now so brazed carbide was still around and in use, recycling used 
>> inserts wasn’t the thing much then
>> 
>> So I could get handfuls of old used inserts which I still have all these 
>> years later. insert tools were expensive back then
>> 
>> So making your own was the logical thing to do I don’t know why it hasn’t 
>> become popular in wood turning tools today
>> 
>> A nice piece of high tensile steel and some old used inserts and you can 
>> have a $300 lathe tool it’s a no brainer really.
>> 
>> But after saying all this I couldn’t make router bits you need specialised 
>> grinding and milling machines for that.
>> 
>> Much easier just to buy them or insert router bits.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Bill
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
>>  On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
>> Sent: Monday, 17 October 2022 9:41 PM
>> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Wow Bill, so your a tool maker too. Now I'm even more impressed. lol
>> 
>> I agree there are plenty of imports that can be as good, if they have good 
>> quality control for sure. 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Kind Regards,
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>> 
>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>> 
>> 14171 160th Ave.
>> 
>> Foreston MN 56330
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> 320-294-5798 shop
>> 
>> 320-630-2243 cell
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 10:48 PM  wrote:
>> 
>> I do remember the silver brazed on bits I used them lots in my days in the 
>> metal trade
>> 
>> And I make them still in my shop they were great when you needed a custom 
>> shape tool
>> 
>> I use used blunt inserts and braze them on to a blank and they work as good 
>> as any insert
>> 
>> Because they are an insert.
>> 
>> Anyway that tool your showing here is only a 2 flute where mine is 3
>> 
>> Because I am poor I would buy the cheaper cutter but buy the high quality 
>> inserts and put in it
>> 
>> Provided they fit, easy wood lathe tool inserts fit in mine and I find them 
>> quite good.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Bill
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
>>  On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
>> Sent: Monday, 17 October 2022 1:09 PM
>> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> W

Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5

2022-10-17 Thread Tim Ziegler
oh and I think Curt welded up an adapter and yes he'd have pix.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Mon, Oct 17, 2022 at 12:06 PM  wrote:

> Curt can answer that one he does it all the time I don’t have a shop smith
>
> But if your shopsmith has a number 2 morse taper in its headstock
>
> Legacys drive hub will fit right in it. That’s what I do in my nova wood
> lathe
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 18 October 2022 2:59 AM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5
>
>
>
> Thank you Bill for the great info for us beginners.
>
> I’m sure this has been brought up before but how is the best way to go
> from LOM to Shopsmith lathe or vice versa. And if special made connectors
> could you send pics?
>
> Thanks
>
> Denson
>
> Sent from Denson's iPhone
>
>
>
> On Oct 17, 2022, at 7:32 AM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:
>
> 
>
> I wouldn’t say toolmaker we learnt how to silver braze tips as an
> apprentice and hand grinding tools for the metal lathe as
>
> Part of the trade.
>
> Insertable carbide tips were just becoming popular back then there were no
> where near the amount of different shapes
>
> There is now so brazed carbide was still around and in use, recycling used
> inserts wasn’t the thing much then
>
> So I could get handfuls of old used inserts which I still have all these
> years later. insert tools were expensive back then
>
> So making your own was the logical thing to do I don’t know why it hasn’t
> become popular in wood turning tools today
>
> A nice piece of high tensile steel and some old used inserts and you can
> have a $300 lathe tool it’s a no brainer really.
>
> But after saying all this I couldn’t make router bits you need specialised
> grinding and milling machines for that.
>
> Much easier just to buy them or insert router bits.
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Monday, 17 October 2022 9:41 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5
>
>
>
> Wow Bill, so your a tool maker too. Now I'm even more impressed. lol
>
> I agree there are plenty of imports that can be as good, if they have good
> quality control for sure.
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 10:48 PM  wrote:
>
> I do remember the silver brazed on bits I used them lots in my days in the
> metal trade
>
> And I make them still in my shop they were great when you needed a custom
> shape tool
>
> I use used blunt inserts and braze them on to a blank and they work as
> good as any insert
>
> Because they are an insert.
>
> Anyway that tool your showing here is only a 2 flute where mine is 3
>
> Because I am poor I would buy the cheaper cutter but buy the high quality
> inserts and put in it
>
> Provided they fit, easy wood lathe tool inserts fit in mine and I find
> them quite good.
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Monday, 17 October 2022 1:09 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5
>
>
>
> Well in my opinion and this will go back a while back on carbide.
>
> Brazed on Carbide is not usually as hard of grade, as the inserts.
>
> The insert carbide is a better bet and will out last a brazed on but
>
> at least 4 times as long on just one edge. then you have 3 more edges to
>
> change out. But you have to buy a good brand. As the china carbide is
>
> not as good as other brands.  See link:
>
>
> https://www.acmetools.com/freud-spoilboard-surfacing-rabbeting-bit-tm1465/008925135593.html
>
>
>
> Freud's bits are expensive but I tend to favor them, having most of my
> everyday router bits being freud.
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
&g

Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5

2022-10-17 Thread Tim Ziegler
No our shopsmiths have a straight shaft with a flat. No place for a taper.
You can get an adapter for the shopsmith that you can get from PennState
exclusive for the shopsmith.

*https://www.pennstateind.com/store/L5818.html
<https://www.pennstateind.com/store/L5818.html>*

then you can spin a chuck on the Shopsmith and then maybe you could turn a
#2 morse taper down to
1/2 and chuck it up
Just thoughts but that is what I'd do.
Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Mon, Oct 17, 2022 at 12:06 PM  wrote:

> Curt can answer that one he does it all the time I don’t have a shop smith
>
> But if your shopsmith has a number 2 morse taper in its headstock
>
> Legacys drive hub will fit right in it. That’s what I do in my nova wood
> lathe
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 18 October 2022 2:59 AM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5
>
>
>
> Thank you Bill for the great info for us beginners.
>
> I’m sure this has been brought up before but how is the best way to go
> from LOM to Shopsmith lathe or vice versa. And if special made connectors
> could you send pics?
>
> Thanks
>
> Denson
>
> Sent from Denson's iPhone
>
>
>
> On Oct 17, 2022, at 7:32 AM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:
>
> 
>
> I wouldn’t say toolmaker we learnt how to silver braze tips as an
> apprentice and hand grinding tools for the metal lathe as
>
> Part of the trade.
>
> Insertable carbide tips were just becoming popular back then there were no
> where near the amount of different shapes
>
> There is now so brazed carbide was still around and in use, recycling used
> inserts wasn’t the thing much then
>
> So I could get handfuls of old used inserts which I still have all these
> years later. insert tools were expensive back then
>
> So making your own was the logical thing to do I don’t know why it hasn’t
> become popular in wood turning tools today
>
> A nice piece of high tensile steel and some old used inserts and you can
> have a $300 lathe tool it’s a no brainer really.
>
> But after saying all this I couldn’t make router bits you need specialised
> grinding and milling machines for that.
>
> Much easier just to buy them or insert router bits.
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Monday, 17 October 2022 9:41 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5
>
>
>
> Wow Bill, so your a tool maker too. Now I'm even more impressed. lol
>
> I agree there are plenty of imports that can be as good, if they have good
> quality control for sure.
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 10:48 PM  wrote:
>
> I do remember the silver brazed on bits I used them lots in my days in the
> metal trade
>
> And I make them still in my shop they were great when you needed a custom
> shape tool
>
> I use used blunt inserts and braze them on to a blank and they work as
> good as any insert
>
> Because they are an insert.
>
> Anyway that tool your showing here is only a 2 flute where mine is 3
>
> Because I am poor I would buy the cheaper cutter but buy the high quality
> inserts and put in it
>
> Provided they fit, easy wood lathe tool inserts fit in mine and I find
> them quite good.
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Monday, 17 October 2022 1:09 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5
>
>
>
> Well in my opinion and this will go back a while back on carbide.
>
> Brazed on Carbide is not usually as hard of grade, as the inserts.
>
> The insert carbide is a better bet and will out last a brazed on but
>
> at least 4 times as long on just one edge. then you have 3 more edges to
>
> change out. But you have to buy a good brand. As the china carbide is
>
> not as good as other brands.  See link:
>
>
> https://www.acmetools.

Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5

2022-10-17 Thread Tim Ziegler
Hey Denson,

I'm sure someone should have some pix. I have an adapter for my big lathe
and also an adapter for
the shopsmith but is not set up yet to do the LOM dogs .

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Mon, Oct 17, 2022 at 10:59 AM 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental
Mills  wrote:

> Thank you Bill for the great info for us beginners.
> I’m sure this has been brought up before but how is the best way to go
> from LOM to Shopsmith lathe or vice versa. And if special made connectors
> could you send pics?
> Thanks
> Denson
>
> Sent from Denson's iPhone
>
> On Oct 17, 2022, at 7:32 AM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:
>
> 
>
> I wouldn’t say toolmaker we learnt how to silver braze tips as an
> apprentice and hand grinding tools for the metal lathe as
>
> Part of the trade.
>
> Insertable carbide tips were just becoming popular back then there were no
> where near the amount of different shapes
>
> There is now so brazed carbide was still around and in use, recycling used
> inserts wasn’t the thing much then
>
> So I could get handfuls of old used inserts which I still have all these
> years later. insert tools were expensive back then
>
> So making your own was the logical thing to do I don’t know why it hasn’t
> become popular in wood turning tools today
>
> A nice piece of high tensile steel and some old used inserts and you can
> have a $300 lathe tool it’s a no brainer really.
>
> But after saying all this I couldn’t make router bits you need specialised
> grinding and milling machines for that.
>
> Much easier just to buy them or insert router bits.
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Monday, 17 October 2022 9:41 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5
>
>
>
> Wow Bill, so your a tool maker too. Now I'm even more impressed. lol
>
> I agree there are plenty of imports that can be as good, if they have good
> quality control for sure.
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 10:48 PM  wrote:
>
> I do remember the silver brazed on bits I used them lots in my days in the
> metal trade
>
> And I make them still in my shop they were great when you needed a custom
> shape tool
>
> I use used blunt inserts and braze them on to a blank and they work as
> good as any insert
>
> Because they are an insert.
>
> Anyway that tool your showing here is only a 2 flute where mine is 3
>
> Because I am poor I would buy the cheaper cutter but buy the high quality
> inserts and put in it
>
> Provided they fit, easy wood lathe tool inserts fit in mine and I find
> them quite good.
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Monday, 17 October 2022 1:09 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5
>
>
>
> Well in my opinion and this will go back a while back on carbide.
>
> Brazed on Carbide is not usually as hard of grade, as the inserts.
>
> The insert carbide is a better bet and will out last a brazed on but
>
> at least 4 times as long on just one edge. then you have 3 more edges to
>
> change out. But you have to buy a good brand. As the china carbide is
>
> not as good as other brands.  See link:
>
>
> https://www.acmetools.com/freud-spoilboard-surfacing-rabbeting-bit-tm1465/008925135593.html
>
>
>
> Freud's bits are expensive but I tend to favor them, having most of my
> everyday router bits being freud.
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 8:32 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> I agree that one is not badly priced. But what I want it first hand info.
>
> Do you OR anyone in this group, think the replicable blades are as good or
> better then the normal carbide router bi

Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5

2022-10-17 Thread 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills
Thanks Bill. The SS does not have a 2MT.
Denson

Sent from Denson's iPhone

> On Oct 17, 2022, at 12:06 PM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:
> 
> 
> Curt can answer that one he does it all the time I don’t have a shop smith
> But if your shopsmith has a number 2 morse taper in its headstock
> Legacys drive hub will fit right in it. That’s what I do in my nova wood lathe
>  
> Bill
>  
> From: 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
>  
> Sent: Tuesday, 18 October 2022 2:59 AM
> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5
>  
> Thank you Bill for the great info for us beginners.
> I’m sure this has been brought up before but how is the best way to go from 
> LOM to Shopsmith lathe or vice versa. And if special made connectors could 
> you send pics?
> Thanks
> Denson
> 
> Sent from Denson's iPhone
> 
> 
> On Oct 17, 2022, at 7:32 AM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:
> 
> 
> I wouldn’t say toolmaker we learnt how to silver braze tips as an apprentice 
> and hand grinding tools for the metal lathe as
> Part of the trade.
> Insertable carbide tips were just becoming popular back then there were no 
> where near the amount of different shapes
> There is now so brazed carbide was still around and in use, recycling used 
> inserts wasn’t the thing much then
> So I could get handfuls of old used inserts which I still have all these 
> years later. insert tools were expensive back then
> So making your own was the logical thing to do I don’t know why it hasn’t 
> become popular in wood turning tools today
> A nice piece of high tensile steel and some old used inserts and you can have 
> a $300 lathe tool it’s a no brainer really.
> But after saying all this I couldn’t make router bits you need specialised 
> grinding and milling machines for that.
> Much easier just to buy them or insert router bits.
>  
> Bill
>  
>  
>  
>  
> From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
>  On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
> Sent: Monday, 17 October 2022 9:41 PM
> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5
>  
> Wow Bill, so your a tool maker too. Now I'm even more impressed. lol
> I agree there are plenty of imports that can be as good, if they have good 
> quality control for sure. 
> 
> Kind Regards,
>  
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
>  
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
>  
>  
> On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 10:48 PM  wrote:
> I do remember the silver brazed on bits I used them lots in my days in the 
> metal trade
> And I make them still in my shop they were great when you needed a custom 
> shape tool
> I use used blunt inserts and braze them on to a blank and they work as good 
> as any insert
> Because they are an insert.
> Anyway that tool your showing here is only a 2 flute where mine is 3
> Because I am poor I would buy the cheaper cutter but buy the high quality 
> inserts and put in it
> Provided they fit, easy wood lathe tool inserts fit in mine and I find them 
> quite good.
>  
> Bill
>  
> From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
>  On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
> Sent: Monday, 17 October 2022 1:09 PM
> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5
>  
> Well in my opinion and this will go back a while back on carbide. 
> Brazed on Carbide is not usually as hard of grade, as the inserts. 
> The insert carbide is a better bet and will out last a brazed on but
> at least 4 times as long on just one edge. then you have 3 more edges to 
> change out. But you have to buy a good brand. As the china carbide is
> not as good as other brands.  See link:
> https://www.acmetools.com/freud-spoilboard-surfacing-rabbeting-bit-tm1465/008925135593.html
>  
> Freud's bits are expensive but I tend to favor them, having most of my 
> everyday router bits being freud. 
> 
> Kind Regards,
>  
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
>  
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
>  
>  
> On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 8:32 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
>  wrote:
> I agree that one is not badly priced. But what I want it first hand info. 
> Do you OR anyone in this group, think the replicable blades are as good or 
> better then the normal carbide router bit? I would really like to know what 
> you think?
>  
> C.A.G.
>  
> On Sunday, October 16, 2022 at 09:27:03 PM EDT, Tim Ziegler 
>  wrote:
>  
>  
> https://www.am

Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5

2022-10-17 Thread Tim Ziegler
Thanks Bill good info. Now I can grind HSS router bits here at the shop,
and face grind carbide.
I'd have to get another wheel for my grinder to to profiles on router bits.
Does sound like your a "Jack of all Trades" for sure.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Mon, Oct 17, 2022 at 7:04 AM  wrote:

> I wouldn’t say toolmaker we learnt how to silver braze tips as an
> apprentice and hand grinding tools for the metal lathe as
>
> Part of the trade.
>
> Insertable carbide tips were just becoming popular back then there were no
> where near the amount of different shapes
>
> There is now so brazed carbide was still around and in use, recycling used
> inserts wasn’t the thing much then
>
> So I could get handfuls of old used inserts which I still have all these
> years later. insert tools were expensive back then
>
> So making your own was the logical thing to do I don’t know why it hasn’t
> become popular in wood turning tools today
>
> A nice piece of high tensile steel and some old used inserts and you can
> have a $300 lathe tool it’s a no brainer really.
>
> But after saying all this I couldn’t make router bits you need specialised
> grinding and milling machines for that.
>
> Much easier just to buy them or insert router bits.
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Monday, 17 October 2022 9:41 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5
>
>
>
> Wow Bill, so your a tool maker too. Now I'm even more impressed. lol
>
> I agree there are plenty of imports that can be as good, if they have good
> quality control for sure.
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 10:48 PM  wrote:
>
> I do remember the silver brazed on bits I used them lots in my days in the
> metal trade
>
> And I make them still in my shop they were great when you needed a custom
> shape tool
>
> I use used blunt inserts and braze them on to a blank and they work as
> good as any insert
>
> Because they are an insert.
>
> Anyway that tool your showing here is only a 2 flute where mine is 3
>
> Because I am poor I would buy the cheaper cutter but buy the high quality
> inserts and put in it
>
> Provided they fit, easy wood lathe tool inserts fit in mine and I find
> them quite good.
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Monday, 17 October 2022 1:09 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5
>
>
>
> Well in my opinion and this will go back a while back on carbide.
>
> Brazed on Carbide is not usually as hard of grade, as the inserts.
>
> The insert carbide is a better bet and will out last a brazed on but
>
> at least 4 times as long on just one edge. then you have 3 more edges to
>
> change out. But you have to buy a good brand. As the china carbide is
>
> not as good as other brands.  See link:
>
>
> https://www.acmetools.com/freud-spoilboard-surfacing-rabbeting-bit-tm1465/008925135593.html
>
>
>
> Freud's bits are expensive but I tend to favor them, having most of my
> everyday router bits being freud.
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 8:32 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> I agree that one is not badly priced. But what I want it first hand info.
>
> Do you OR anyone in this group, think the replicable blades are as good or
> better then the normal carbide router bit? I would really like to know what
> you think?
>
>
>
> C.A.G.
>
>
>
> On Sunday, October 16, 2022 at 09:27:03 PM EDT, Tim Ziegler <
> timjzieg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
> https://www.amazon.com/Spoilboard-Router-Bit-Carbide-NITOMAK/dp/B085QGLHB4/ref=sr_1_10?crid=1Y7QN81UFU3J1&keywords=3+flute+spoilboard+planin

RE: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5

2022-10-17 Thread bulkeley
Curt can answer that one he does it all the time I don’t have a shop smith 

But if your shopsmith has a number 2 morse taper in its headstock 

Legacys drive hub will fit right in it. That’s what I do in my nova wood lathe

 

Bill

 

From: 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 
Sent: Tuesday, 18 October 2022 2:59 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5

 

Thank you Bill for the great info for us beginners.

I’m sure this has been brought up before but how is the best way to go from LOM 
to Shopsmith lathe or vice versa. And if special made connectors could you send 
pics?

Thanks

Denson

Sent from Denson's iPhone





On Oct 17, 2022, at 7:32 AM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au 
<mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au>  wrote:



I wouldn’t say toolmaker we learnt how to silver braze tips as an apprentice 
and hand grinding tools for the metal lathe as 

Part of the trade.

Insertable carbide tips were just becoming popular back then there were no 
where near the amount of different shapes

There is now so brazed carbide was still around and in use, recycling used 
inserts wasn’t the thing much then 

So I could get handfuls of old used inserts which I still have all these years 
later. insert tools were expensive back then

So making your own was the logical thing to do I don’t know why it hasn’t 
become popular in wood turning tools today

A nice piece of high tensile steel and some old used inserts and you can have a 
$300 lathe tool it’s a no brainer really.

But after saying all this I couldn’t make router bits you need specialised 
grinding and milling machines for that.

Much easier just to buy them or insert router bits.

 

Bill

 

 

 

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Monday, 17 October 2022 9:41 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5

 

Wow Bill, so your a tool maker too. Now I'm even more impressed. lol

I agree there are plenty of imports that can be as good, if they have good 
quality control for sure. 




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 10:48 PM mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote:

I do remember the silver brazed on bits I used them lots in my days in the 
metal trade 

And I make them still in my shop they were great when you needed a custom shape 
tool

I use used blunt inserts and braze them on to a blank and they work as good as 
any insert 

Because they are an insert.

Anyway that tool your showing here is only a 2 flute where mine is 3 

Because I am poor I would buy the cheaper cutter but buy the high quality 
inserts and put in it 

Provided they fit, easy wood lathe tool inserts fit in mine and I find them 
quite good.

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Monday, 17 October 2022 1:09 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5

 

Well in my opinion and this will go back a while back on carbide. 

Brazed on Carbide is not usually as hard of grade, as the inserts. 

The insert carbide is a better bet and will out last a brazed on but

at least 4 times as long on just one edge. then you have 3 more edges to 

change out. But you have to buy a good brand. As the china carbide is

not as good as other brands.  See link:

https://www.acmetools.com/freud-spoilboard-surfacing-rabbeting-bit-tm1465/008925135593.html

 

Freud's bits are expensive but I tend to favor them, having most of my everyday 
router bits being freud. 




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 8:32 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > wrote:

I agree that one is not badly priced. But what I want it first hand info. 

Do you OR anyone in this group, think the replicable blades are as good or 
better then the normal carbide router bit? I would really like to know what you 
think?

 

C.A.G.

 

On Sunday, October 16, 2022 at 09:27:03 PM EDT, Tim Ziegler 
mailto:timjzieg...@gmail.com> > wrote: 

 

 

https://www.amazon.com/Spoilboard-Router-Bit-Carbide-NITOMAK/dp/B085QGLHB4/ref=sr_1_10?crid=1Y7QN81UFU3J1
 
<https://www.amazon.com/Spoilboard-Router-Bit-Carbide-NITOM

Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5

2022-10-17 Thread Steven Jacobs
Awesome Bill! Thanks for all of the time and effort to put these together!Steve JacobsBrighton, TNSent from my iPhoneOn Oct 17, 2022, at 10:59 AM, 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills  wrote:Thank you Bill for the great info for us beginners.I’m sure this has been brought up before but how is the best way to go from LOM to Shopsmith lathe or vice versa. And if special made connectors could you send pics?ThanksDensonSent from Denson's iPhoneOn Oct 17, 2022, at 7:32 AM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:I wouldn’t say toolmaker we learnt how to silver braze tips as an apprentice and hand grinding tools for the metal lathe as Part of the trade.Insertable carbide tips were just becoming popular back then there were no where near the amount of different shapesThere is now so brazed carbide was still around and in use, recycling used inserts wasn’t the thing much then So I could get handfuls of old used inserts which I still have all these years later. insert tools were expensive back thenSo making your own was the logical thing to do I don’t know why it hasn’t become popular in wood turning tools todayA nice piece of high tensile steel and some old used inserts and you can have a $300 lathe tool it’s a no brainer really.But after saying all this I couldn’t make router bits you need specialised grinding and milling machines for that.Much easier just to buy them or insert router bits. BillFrom: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Tim ZieglerSent: Monday, 17 October 2022 9:41 PMTo: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5 Wow Bill, so your a tool maker too. Now I'm even more impressed. lolI agree there are plenty of imports that can be as good, if they have good quality control for sure. Kind Regards, Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & Specialty14171 160th Ave.Foreston MN 56330 320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cell  On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 10:48 PM <bulke...@mmnet.com.au> wrote:I do remember the silver brazed on bits I used them lots in my days in the metal trade And I make them still in my shop they were great when you needed a custom shape toolI use used blunt inserts and braze them on to a blank and they work as good as any insert Because they are an insert.Anyway that tool your showing here is only a 2 flute where mine is 3 Because I am poor I would buy the cheaper cutter but buy the high quality inserts and put in it Provided they fit, easy wood lathe tool inserts fit in mine and I find them quite good. Bill From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Tim ZieglerSent: Monday, 17 October 2022 1:09 PMTo: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5 Well in my opinion and this will go back a while back on carbide. Brazed on Carbide is not usually as hard of grade, as the inserts. The insert carbide is a better bet and will out last a brazed on butat least 4 times as long on just one edge. then you have 3 more edges to change out. But you have to buy a good brand. As the china carbide isnot as good as other brands.  See link:https://www.acmetools.com/freud-spoilboard-surfacing-rabbeting-bit-tm1465/008925135593.html Freud's bits are expensive but I tend to favor them, having most of my everyday router bits being freud. Kind Regards, Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & Specialty14171 160th Ave.Foreston MN 56330 320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cell  On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 8:32 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:I agree that one is not badly priced. But what I want it first hand info. Do you OR anyone in this group, think the replicable blades are as good or better then the normal carbide router bit? I would really like to know what you think? C.A.G. On Sunday, October 16, 2022 at 09:27:03 PM EDT, Tim Ziegler <timjzieg...@gmail.com> wrote:   https://www.amazon.com/Spoilboard-Router-Bit-Carbide-NITOMAK/dp/B085QGLHB4/ref=sr_1_10?crid=1Y7QN81UFU3J1&keywords=3+flute+spoilboard+planing+bit.&qid=1665969834&qu=eyJxc2MiOiIxLjI3IiwicXNhIjoiMC4wMCIsInFzcCI6IjAuMDAifQ%3D%3D&sprefix=3+flute+spoil+board+planing+bit.%2Caps%2C96&sr=8-10 They are not that expensive, off brand but looks ok.Kind Regards, Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & Specialty14171 160th Ave.Foreston MN 56330 320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cell  On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 7:25 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote: I know a few friends who ONLY buy cutters with replacement blades for there CNC Machines.But do you feel that this bit worth the price you paid for it?  C.A.G.   On Sunday, October 16, 2022 at 08:15:49 PM EDT, <bulke...@mmnet.com.au> wrote:   https://www.carbitool.com.au/product/3-flute-surface-planer/ this Bill From: legacy-ornamental-mills@

Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5

2022-10-17 Thread 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills
Thank you Bill for the great info for us beginners.
I’m sure this has been brought up before but how is the best way to go from LOM 
to Shopsmith lathe or vice versa. And if special made connectors could you send 
pics?
Thanks
Denson

Sent from Denson's iPhone

> On Oct 17, 2022, at 7:32 AM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:
> 
> 
> I wouldn’t say toolmaker we learnt how to silver braze tips as an apprentice 
> and hand grinding tools for the metal lathe as
> Part of the trade.
> Insertable carbide tips were just becoming popular back then there were no 
> where near the amount of different shapes
> There is now so brazed carbide was still around and in use, recycling used 
> inserts wasn’t the thing much then
> So I could get handfuls of old used inserts which I still have all these 
> years later. insert tools were expensive back then
> So making your own was the logical thing to do I don’t know why it hasn’t 
> become popular in wood turning tools today
> A nice piece of high tensile steel and some old used inserts and you can have 
> a $300 lathe tool it’s a no brainer really.
> But after saying all this I couldn’t make router bits you need specialised 
> grinding and milling machines for that.
> Much easier just to buy them or insert router bits.
>  
> Bill
>  
>  
>  
>  
> From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
>  On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
> Sent: Monday, 17 October 2022 9:41 PM
> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5
>  
> Wow Bill, so your a tool maker too. Now I'm even more impressed. lol
> I agree there are plenty of imports that can be as good, if they have good 
> quality control for sure. 
> 
> Kind Regards,
>  
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
>  
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
>  
>  
> On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 10:48 PM  wrote:
> I do remember the silver brazed on bits I used them lots in my days in the 
> metal trade
> And I make them still in my shop they were great when you needed a custom 
> shape tool
> I use used blunt inserts and braze them on to a blank and they work as good 
> as any insert
> Because they are an insert.
> Anyway that tool your showing here is only a 2 flute where mine is 3
> Because I am poor I would buy the cheaper cutter but buy the high quality 
> inserts and put in it
> Provided they fit, easy wood lathe tool inserts fit in mine and I find them 
> quite good.
>  
> Bill
>  
> From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
>  On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
> Sent: Monday, 17 October 2022 1:09 PM
> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5
>  
> Well in my opinion and this will go back a while back on carbide. 
> Brazed on Carbide is not usually as hard of grade, as the inserts. 
> The insert carbide is a better bet and will out last a brazed on but
> at least 4 times as long on just one edge. then you have 3 more edges to 
> change out. But you have to buy a good brand. As the china carbide is
> not as good as other brands.  See link:
> https://www.acmetools.com/freud-spoilboard-surfacing-rabbeting-bit-tm1465/008925135593.html
>  
> Freud's bits are expensive but I tend to favor them, having most of my 
> everyday router bits being freud. 
> 
> Kind Regards,
>  
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
>  
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
>  
>  
> On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 8:32 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
>  wrote:
> I agree that one is not badly priced. But what I want it first hand info. 
> Do you OR anyone in this group, think the replicable blades are as good or 
> better then the normal carbide router bit? I would really like to know what 
> you think?
>  
> C.A.G.
>  
> On Sunday, October 16, 2022 at 09:27:03 PM EDT, Tim Ziegler 
>  wrote:
>  
>  
> https://www.amazon.com/Spoilboard-Router-Bit-Carbide-NITOMAK/dp/B085QGLHB4/ref=sr_1_10?crid=1Y7QN81UFU3J1&keywords=3+flute+spoilboard+planing+bit.&qid=1665969834&qu=eyJxc2MiOiIxLjI3IiwicXNhIjoiMC4wMCIsInFzcCI6IjAuMDAifQ%3D%3D&sprefix=3+flute+spoil+board+planing+bit.%2Caps%2C96&sr=8-10
>  
> They are not that expensive, off brand but looks ok.
> Kind Regards,
>  
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
>  
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
>  
>  
> On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 7:25 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
>  wrote:
>  
> I know a few friends who ONLY b

RE: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5

2022-10-17 Thread bulkeley
I wouldn’t say toolmaker we learnt how to silver braze tips as an apprentice 
and hand grinding tools for the metal lathe as 

Part of the trade.

Insertable carbide tips were just becoming popular back then there were no 
where near the amount of different shapes

There is now so brazed carbide was still around and in use, recycling used 
inserts wasn’t the thing much then 

So I could get handfuls of old used inserts which I still have all these years 
later. insert tools were expensive back then

So making your own was the logical thing to do I don’t know why it hasn’t 
become popular in wood turning tools today

A nice piece of high tensile steel and some old used inserts and you can have a 
$300 lathe tool it’s a no brainer really.

But after saying all this I couldn’t make router bits you need specialised 
grinding and milling machines for that.

Much easier just to buy them or insert router bits.

 

Bill

 

 

 

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Monday, 17 October 2022 9:41 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5

 

Wow Bill, so your a tool maker too. Now I'm even more impressed. lol

I agree there are plenty of imports that can be as good, if they have good 
quality control for sure. 




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 10:48 PM mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote:

I do remember the silver brazed on bits I used them lots in my days in the 
metal trade 

And I make them still in my shop they were great when you needed a custom shape 
tool

I use used blunt inserts and braze them on to a blank and they work as good as 
any insert 

Because they are an insert.

Anyway that tool your showing here is only a 2 flute where mine is 3 

Because I am poor I would buy the cheaper cutter but buy the high quality 
inserts and put in it 

Provided they fit, easy wood lathe tool inserts fit in mine and I find them 
quite good.

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Monday, 17 October 2022 1:09 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5

 

Well in my opinion and this will go back a while back on carbide. 

Brazed on Carbide is not usually as hard of grade, as the inserts. 

The insert carbide is a better bet and will out last a brazed on but

at least 4 times as long on just one edge. then you have 3 more edges to 

change out. But you have to buy a good brand. As the china carbide is

not as good as other brands.  See link:

https://www.acmetools.com/freud-spoilboard-surfacing-rabbeting-bit-tm1465/008925135593.html

 

Freud's bits are expensive but I tend to favor them, having most of my everyday 
router bits being freud. 




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 8:32 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > wrote:

I agree that one is not badly priced. But what I want it first hand info. 

Do you OR anyone in this group, think the replicable blades are as good or 
better then the normal carbide router bit? I would really like to know what you 
think?

 

C.A.G.

 

On Sunday, October 16, 2022 at 09:27:03 PM EDT, Tim Ziegler 
mailto:timjzieg...@gmail.com> > wrote: 

 

 

https://www.amazon.com/Spoilboard-Router-Bit-Carbide-NITOMAK/dp/B085QGLHB4/ref=sr_1_10?crid=1Y7QN81UFU3J1
 
<https://www.amazon.com/Spoilboard-Router-Bit-Carbide-NITOMAK/dp/B085QGLHB4/ref=sr_1_10?crid=1Y7QN81UFU3J1&keywords=3+flute+spoilboard+planing+bit.&qid=1665969834&qu=eyJxc2MiOiIxLjI3IiwicXNhIjoiMC4wMCIsInFzcCI6IjAuMDAifQ%3D%3D&sprefix=3+flute+spoil+board+planing+bit.%2Caps%2C96&sr=8-10>
 
&keywords=3+flute+spoilboard+planing+bit.&qid=1665969834&qu=eyJxc2MiOiIxLjI3IiwicXNhIjoiMC4wMCIsInFzcCI6IjAuMDAifQ%3D%3D&sprefix=3+flute+spoil+board+planing+bit.%2Caps%2C96&sr=8-10

 

They are not that expensive, off brand but looks ok.


Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 7:25 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > wrote:

 

I know a few friends who ONLY buy cutters with replacement blades for there CNC 
Machines.

But do you feel that this bit worth the price you paid for it? 

 

C.A.G.

 

 

 

On Sunday

Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5

2022-10-17 Thread Tim Ziegler
Perfect and great information. I'll have to get my self some nice blanks
and test the waters
again. I have lots of items to get done before winter sets in.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 11:26 PM  wrote:

> I do seem to remember that, the correct router bits are important doing a
> hollow
>
> Also the wood don’t use laminated glued wood a nice one piece is best fine
> strait grain
>
> Also a reasonable dia, the router bits I used in the video were for a 2
> inch dia blank
>
> Where I used a 2 1/2 dia blank this made the spirals a little thicker and
> less prone
>
> To breaking and a longer pitch too helps for a more stiffer spiral
>
> Light cuts gently as you go is the key with the hollowing and a up cut
> spiral is the best bit
>
> Less vibration than a 2 flute strait bit.
>
> And one last thing don’t go past the middle very far like only 1/16 two
> rulers
>
> Lay one along the top of the blank and measure down into the slot with the
> other I forgot
>
> To show that in the video.
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Monday, 17 October 2022 1:15 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5
>
>
>
> Great Video too Bill, I like the step by step and gives me the motivation
> to want to try that
>
> again. The last one I did if you recall exploded on my last couple inches.
> I even still have that
>
> piece around for a casual reminder lol.
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 9:06 PM  wrote:
>
> Ps the quality of the carbide is the quality of the bit too
>
> Way cheaper to buy tips than replace the whole bit if it has crappy carbide
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>
> *Sent:* Monday, 17 October 2022 12:32 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5
>
>
>
> I agree that one is not badly priced. But what I want it first hand info.
>
> Do you OR anyone in this group, think the replicable blades are as good or
> better then the normal carbide router bit? I would really like to know what
> you think?
>
>
>
> C.A.G.
>
>
>
> On Sunday, October 16, 2022 at 09:27:03 PM EDT, Tim Ziegler <
> timjzieg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
> https://www.amazon.com/Spoilboard-Router-Bit-Carbide-NITOMAK/dp/B085QGLHB4/ref=sr_1_10?crid=1Y7QN81UFU3J1&keywords=3+flute+spoilboard+planing+bit.&qid=1665969834&qu=eyJxc2MiOiIxLjI3IiwicXNhIjoiMC4wMCIsInFzcCI6IjAuMDAifQ%3D%3D&sprefix=3+flute+spoil+board+planing+bit.%2Caps%2C96&sr=8-10
>
>
>
> They are not that expensive, off brand but looks ok.
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 7:25 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> I know a few friends who ONLY buy cutters with replacement blades for
> there CNC Machines.
>
> But do you feel that this bit worth the price you paid for it?
>
>
>
> C.A.G.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sunday, October 16, 2022 at 08:15:49 PM EDT, 
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> https://www.carbitool.com.au/product/3-flute-surface-planer/
>
>
>
> this
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Monday, 17 October 2022 10:34 AM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5
>
>
>
> Hey Bill what you using for the planning router bit
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 6:2

Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5

2022-10-17 Thread Tim Ziegler
Wow Bill, so your a tool maker too. Now I'm even more impressed. lol
I agree there are plenty of imports that can be as good, if they have good
quality control for sure.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 10:48 PM  wrote:

> I do remember the silver brazed on bits I used them lots in my days in the
> metal trade
>
> And I make them still in my shop they were great when you needed a custom
> shape tool
>
> I use used blunt inserts and braze them on to a blank and they work as
> good as any insert
>
> Because they are an insert.
>
> Anyway that tool your showing here is only a 2 flute where mine is 3
>
> Because I am poor I would buy the cheaper cutter but buy the high quality
> inserts and put in it
>
> Provided they fit, easy wood lathe tool inserts fit in mine and I find
> them quite good.
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Monday, 17 October 2022 1:09 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5
>
>
>
> Well in my opinion and this will go back a while back on carbide.
>
> Brazed on Carbide is not usually as hard of grade, as the inserts.
>
> The insert carbide is a better bet and will out last a brazed on but
>
> at least 4 times as long on just one edge. then you have 3 more edges to
>
> change out. But you have to buy a good brand. As the china carbide is
>
> not as good as other brands.  See link:
>
>
> https://www.acmetools.com/freud-spoilboard-surfacing-rabbeting-bit-tm1465/008925135593.html
>
>
>
> Freud's bits are expensive but I tend to favor them, having most of my
> everyday router bits being freud.
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 8:32 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> I agree that one is not badly priced. But what I want it first hand info.
>
> Do you OR anyone in this group, think the replicable blades are as good or
> better then the normal carbide router bit? I would really like to know what
> you think?
>
>
>
> C.A.G.
>
>
>
> On Sunday, October 16, 2022 at 09:27:03 PM EDT, Tim Ziegler <
> timjzieg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
> https://www.amazon.com/Spoilboard-Router-Bit-Carbide-NITOMAK/dp/B085QGLHB4/ref=sr_1_10?crid=1Y7QN81UFU3J1&keywords=3+flute+spoilboard+planing+bit.&qid=1665969834&qu=eyJxc2MiOiIxLjI3IiwicXNhIjoiMC4wMCIsInFzcCI6IjAuMDAifQ%3D%3D&sprefix=3+flute+spoil+board+planing+bit.%2Caps%2C96&sr=8-10
>
>
>
> They are not that expensive, off brand but looks ok.
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 7:25 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> I know a few friends who ONLY buy cutters with replacement blades for
> there CNC Machines.
>
> But do you feel that this bit worth the price you paid for it?
>
>
>
> C.A.G.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sunday, October 16, 2022 at 08:15:49 PM EDT, 
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> https://www.carbitool.com.au/product/3-flute-surface-planer/
>
>
>
> this
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Monday, 17 October 2022 10:34 AM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5
>
>
>
> Hey Bill what you using for the planning router bit
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 6:23 PM  wrote:
>
> Thank you
>
>
>
>
>
> Looks good
>
> On Sunday, October 16, 2022,  wrote:
>
> Yes it is longer than I wanted but I couldn’t shorten it much more and

RE: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5

2022-10-16 Thread bulkeley
I do seem to remember that, the correct router bits are important doing a hollow

Also the wood don’t use laminated glued wood a nice one piece is best fine 
strait grain

Also a reasonable dia, the router bits I used in the video were for a 2 inch 
dia blank

Where I used a 2 1/2 dia blank this made the spirals a little thicker and less 
prone

To breaking and a longer pitch too helps for a more stiffer spiral 

Light cuts gently as you go is the key with the hollowing and a up cut spiral 
is the best bit

Less vibration than a 2 flute strait bit.

And one last thing don’t go past the middle very far like only 1/16 two rulers 

Lay one along the top of the blank and measure down into the slot with the 
other I forgot

To show that in the video.

 

Bill

 

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Monday, 17 October 2022 1:15 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5

 

Great Video too Bill, I like the step by step and gives me the motivation to 
want to try that 

again. The last one I did if you recall exploded on my last couple inches. I 
even still have that

piece around for a casual reminder lol.




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 9:06 PM mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote:

Ps the quality of the carbide is the quality of the bit too

Way cheaper to buy tips than replace the whole bit if it has crappy carbide

 

Bill

 

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > 
Sent: Monday, 17 October 2022 12:32 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5

 

I agree that one is not badly priced. But what I want it first hand info. 

Do you OR anyone in this group, think the replicable blades are as good or 
better then the normal carbide router bit? I would really like to know what you 
think?

 

C.A.G.

 

On Sunday, October 16, 2022 at 09:27:03 PM EDT, Tim Ziegler 
mailto:timjzieg...@gmail.com> > wrote: 

 

 

https://www.amazon.com/Spoilboard-Router-Bit-Carbide-NITOMAK/dp/B085QGLHB4/ref=sr_1_10?crid=1Y7QN81UFU3J1
 
<https://www.amazon.com/Spoilboard-Router-Bit-Carbide-NITOMAK/dp/B085QGLHB4/ref=sr_1_10?crid=1Y7QN81UFU3J1&keywords=3+flute+spoilboard+planing+bit.&qid=1665969834&qu=eyJxc2MiOiIxLjI3IiwicXNhIjoiMC4wMCIsInFzcCI6IjAuMDAifQ%3D%3D&sprefix=3+flute+spoil+board+planing+bit.%2Caps%2C96&sr=8-10>
 
&keywords=3+flute+spoilboard+planing+bit.&qid=1665969834&qu=eyJxc2MiOiIxLjI3IiwicXNhIjoiMC4wMCIsInFzcCI6IjAuMDAifQ%3D%3D&sprefix=3+flute+spoil+board+planing+bit.%2Caps%2C96&sr=8-10

 

They are not that expensive, off brand but looks ok.


Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 7:25 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > wrote:

 

I know a few friends who ONLY buy cutters with replacement blades for there CNC 
Machines.

But do you feel that this bit worth the price you paid for it? 

 

C.A.G.

 

 

 

On Sunday, October 16, 2022 at 08:15:49 PM EDT, mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote: 

 

 

https://www.carbitool.com.au/product/3-flute-surface-planer/

 

this

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Monday, 17 October 2022 10:34 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5

 

Hey Bill what you using for the planning router bit 


Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 6:23 PM mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote:

Thank you

 

 

Looks good 

On Sunday, October 16, 2022, mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote:

Yes it is longer than I wanted but I couldn’t shorten it much more and keep all 
the steps in

For learners to follow  As it was a skipped a couple of things and just 
described what to do

 

Bill

 

Very nice work there Bill.

The video is a bit long, but I do think you covered every step.

 

Thank you.

 

C.A.G.

 

 

https://youtu.be/R8j8hcQg9bg

 

ok guys here is one more ornamental milling for beginners,

 

episode 5 this time its milling a 2 start barley and then turning it

 

into a hollow spiral. as they get more complex they are 

RE: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5

2022-10-16 Thread bulkeley
I do remember the silver brazed on bits I used them lots in my days in the 
metal trade 

And I make them still in my shop they were great when you needed a custom shape 
tool

I use used blunt inserts and braze them on to a blank and they work as good as 
any insert 

Because they are an insert.

Anyway that tool your showing here is only a 2 flute where mine is 3 

Because I am poor I would buy the cheaper cutter but buy the high quality 
inserts and put in it 

Provided they fit, easy wood lathe tool inserts fit in mine and I find them 
quite good.

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Monday, 17 October 2022 1:09 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5

 

Well in my opinion and this will go back a while back on carbide. 

Brazed on Carbide is not usually as hard of grade, as the inserts. 

The insert carbide is a better bet and will out last a brazed on but

at least 4 times as long on just one edge. then you have 3 more edges to 

change out. But you have to buy a good brand. As the china carbide is

not as good as other brands.  See link:

https://www.acmetools.com/freud-spoilboard-surfacing-rabbeting-bit-tm1465/008925135593.html

 

Freud's bits are expensive but I tend to favor them, having most of my everyday 
router bits being freud. 




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 8:32 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > wrote:

I agree that one is not badly priced. But what I want it first hand info. 

Do you OR anyone in this group, think the replicable blades are as good or 
better then the normal carbide router bit? I would really like to know what you 
think?

 

C.A.G.

 

On Sunday, October 16, 2022 at 09:27:03 PM EDT, Tim Ziegler 
mailto:timjzieg...@gmail.com> > wrote: 

 

 

https://www.amazon.com/Spoilboard-Router-Bit-Carbide-NITOMAK/dp/B085QGLHB4/ref=sr_1_10?crid=1Y7QN81UFU3J1
 
<https://www.amazon.com/Spoilboard-Router-Bit-Carbide-NITOMAK/dp/B085QGLHB4/ref=sr_1_10?crid=1Y7QN81UFU3J1&keywords=3+flute+spoilboard+planing+bit.&qid=1665969834&qu=eyJxc2MiOiIxLjI3IiwicXNhIjoiMC4wMCIsInFzcCI6IjAuMDAifQ%3D%3D&sprefix=3+flute+spoil+board+planing+bit.%2Caps%2C96&sr=8-10>
 
&keywords=3+flute+spoilboard+planing+bit.&qid=1665969834&qu=eyJxc2MiOiIxLjI3IiwicXNhIjoiMC4wMCIsInFzcCI6IjAuMDAifQ%3D%3D&sprefix=3+flute+spoil+board+planing+bit.%2Caps%2C96&sr=8-10

 

They are not that expensive, off brand but looks ok.


Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 7:25 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > wrote:

 

I know a few friends who ONLY buy cutters with replacement blades for there CNC 
Machines.

But do you feel that this bit worth the price you paid for it? 

 

C.A.G.

 

 

 

On Sunday, October 16, 2022 at 08:15:49 PM EDT, mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote: 

 

 

https://www.carbitool.com.au/product/3-flute-surface-planer/

 

this

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Monday, 17 October 2022 10:34 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5

 

Hey Bill what you using for the planning router bit 


Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 6:23 PM mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote:

Thank you

 

 

Looks good 

On Sunday, October 16, 2022, mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote:

Yes it is longer than I wanted but I couldn’t shorten it much more and keep all 
the steps in

For learners to follow  As it was a skipped a couple of things and just 
described what to do

 

Bill

 

Very nice work there Bill.

The video is a bit long, but I do think you covered every step.

 

Thank you.

 

C.A.G.

 

 

https://youtu.be/R8j8hcQg9bg

 

ok guys here is one more ornamental milling for beginners,

 

episode 5 this time its milling a 2 start barley and then turning it

 

into a hollow spiral. as they get more complex they are getting harder

to show and explain how to make them I’m sorry if anyone can’t understand or 
follow

it I did my best, I had a few problems too one was the ½ inch spiral bit was 
almost

stuffed so smoke and burnt wood was a bit of a 

Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5

2022-10-16 Thread Tim Ziegler
Great Video too Bill, I like the step by step and gives me the motivation
to want to try that
again. The last one I did if you recall exploded on my last couple inches.
I even still have that
piece around for a casual reminder lol.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 9:06 PM  wrote:

> Ps the quality of the carbide is the quality of the bit too
>
> Way cheaper to buy tips than replace the whole bit if it has crappy carbide
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>
> *Sent:* Monday, 17 October 2022 12:32 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5
>
>
>
> I agree that one is not badly priced. But what I want it first hand info.
>
> Do you OR anyone in this group, think the replicable blades are as good or
> better then the normal carbide router bit? I would really like to know what
> you think?
>
>
>
> C.A.G.
>
>
>
> On Sunday, October 16, 2022 at 09:27:03 PM EDT, Tim Ziegler <
> timjzieg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
> https://www.amazon.com/Spoilboard-Router-Bit-Carbide-NITOMAK/dp/B085QGLHB4/ref=sr_1_10?crid=1Y7QN81UFU3J1&keywords=3+flute+spoilboard+planing+bit.&qid=1665969834&qu=eyJxc2MiOiIxLjI3IiwicXNhIjoiMC4wMCIsInFzcCI6IjAuMDAifQ%3D%3D&sprefix=3+flute+spoil+board+planing+bit.%2Caps%2C96&sr=8-10
>
>
>
> They are not that expensive, off brand but looks ok.
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 7:25 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> I know a few friends who ONLY buy cutters with replacement blades for
> there CNC Machines.
>
> But do you feel that this bit worth the price you paid for it?
>
>
>
> C.A.G.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sunday, October 16, 2022 at 08:15:49 PM EDT, 
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> https://www.carbitool.com.au/product/3-flute-surface-planer/
>
>
>
> this
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Monday, 17 October 2022 10:34 AM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5
>
>
>
> Hey Bill what you using for the planning router bit
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 6:23 PM  wrote:
>
> Thank you
>
>
>
>
>
> Looks good
>
> On Sunday, October 16, 2022,  wrote:
>
> Yes it is longer than I wanted but I couldn’t shorten it much more and
> keep all the steps in
>
> For learners to follow  As it was a skipped a couple of things and just
> described what to do
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> Very nice work there Bill.
>
> The video is a bit long, but I do think you covered every step.
>
>
>
> Thank you.
>
>
>
> C.A.G.
>
>
>
>
>
> https://youtu.be/R8j8hcQg9bg
>
>
>
> ok guys here is one more ornamental milling for beginners,
>
>
>
> episode 5 this time its milling a 2 start barley and then turning it
>
>
>
> into a hollow spiral. as they get more complex they are getting harder
>
> to show and explain how to make them I’m sorry if anyone can’t understand
> or follow
>
> it I did my best, I had a few problems too one was the ½ inch spiral bit
> was almost
>
> stuffed so smoke and burnt wood was a bit of a problem also a crack opened
> up
>
> during milling but I managed to super glue it up before it got too bad and
> edit it
>
> out of the finished video. But I got there in the end
>
>
>
> Bill
>
> .
>
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Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5

2022-10-16 Thread Tim Ziegler
yup
Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 9:06 PM  wrote:

> Ps the quality of the carbide is the quality of the bit too
>
> Way cheaper to buy tips than replace the whole bit if it has crappy carbide
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>
> *Sent:* Monday, 17 October 2022 12:32 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5
>
>
>
> I agree that one is not badly priced. But what I want it first hand info.
>
> Do you OR anyone in this group, think the replicable blades are as good or
> better then the normal carbide router bit? I would really like to know what
> you think?
>
>
>
> C.A.G.
>
>
>
> On Sunday, October 16, 2022 at 09:27:03 PM EDT, Tim Ziegler <
> timjzieg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
> https://www.amazon.com/Spoilboard-Router-Bit-Carbide-NITOMAK/dp/B085QGLHB4/ref=sr_1_10?crid=1Y7QN81UFU3J1&keywords=3+flute+spoilboard+planing+bit.&qid=1665969834&qu=eyJxc2MiOiIxLjI3IiwicXNhIjoiMC4wMCIsInFzcCI6IjAuMDAifQ%3D%3D&sprefix=3+flute+spoil+board+planing+bit.%2Caps%2C96&sr=8-10
>
>
>
> They are not that expensive, off brand but looks ok.
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 7:25 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> I know a few friends who ONLY buy cutters with replacement blades for
> there CNC Machines.
>
> But do you feel that this bit worth the price you paid for it?
>
>
>
> C.A.G.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sunday, October 16, 2022 at 08:15:49 PM EDT, 
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> https://www.carbitool.com.au/product/3-flute-surface-planer/
>
>
>
> this
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Monday, 17 October 2022 10:34 AM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5
>
>
>
> Hey Bill what you using for the planning router bit
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 6:23 PM  wrote:
>
> Thank you
>
>
>
>
>
> Looks good
>
> On Sunday, October 16, 2022,  wrote:
>
> Yes it is longer than I wanted but I couldn’t shorten it much more and
> keep all the steps in
>
> For learners to follow  As it was a skipped a couple of things and just
> described what to do
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> Very nice work there Bill.
>
> The video is a bit long, but I do think you covered every step.
>
>
>
> Thank you.
>
>
>
> C.A.G.
>
>
>
>
>
> https://youtu.be/R8j8hcQg9bg
>
>
>
> ok guys here is one more ornamental milling for beginners,
>
>
>
> episode 5 this time its milling a 2 start barley and then turning it
>
>
>
> into a hollow spiral. as they get more complex they are getting harder
>
> to show and explain how to make them I’m sorry if anyone can’t understand
> or follow
>
> it I did my best, I had a few problems too one was the ½ inch spiral bit
> was almost
>
> stuffed so smoke and burnt wood was a bit of a problem also a crack opened
> up
>
> during milling but I managed to super glue it up before it got too bad and
> edit it
>
> out of the finished video. But I got there in the end
>
>
>
> Bill
>
> .
>
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Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5

2022-10-16 Thread Tim Ziegler
yup
Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 9:00 PM  wrote:

> Well my opinion they cut the same but the seller for me is I don’t have to
> pay for sharpening
>
> Just rotate the tip so for unknown woods or possible foren matter in the
> wood
>
> Or just plain out doing a great deal of work replaceable carbide wins
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>
> *Sent:* Monday, 17 October 2022 12:32 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5
>
>
>
> I agree that one is not badly priced. But what I want it first hand info.
>
> Do you OR anyone in this group, think the replicable blades are as good or
> better then the normal carbide router bit? I would really like to know what
> you think?
>
>
>
> C.A.G.
>
>
>
> On Sunday, October 16, 2022 at 09:27:03 PM EDT, Tim Ziegler <
> timjzieg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
> https://www.amazon.com/Spoilboard-Router-Bit-Carbide-NITOMAK/dp/B085QGLHB4/ref=sr_1_10?crid=1Y7QN81UFU3J1&keywords=3+flute+spoilboard+planing+bit.&qid=1665969834&qu=eyJxc2MiOiIxLjI3IiwicXNhIjoiMC4wMCIsInFzcCI6IjAuMDAifQ%3D%3D&sprefix=3+flute+spoil+board+planing+bit.%2Caps%2C96&sr=8-10
>
>
>
> They are not that expensive, off brand but looks ok.
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 7:25 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> I know a few friends who ONLY buy cutters with replacement blades for
> there CNC Machines.
>
> But do you feel that this bit worth the price you paid for it?
>
>
>
> C.A.G.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sunday, October 16, 2022 at 08:15:49 PM EDT, 
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> https://www.carbitool.com.au/product/3-flute-surface-planer/
>
>
>
> this
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Monday, 17 October 2022 10:34 AM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5
>
>
>
> Hey Bill what you using for the planning router bit
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 6:23 PM  wrote:
>
> Thank you
>
>
>
>
>
> Looks good
>
> On Sunday, October 16, 2022,  wrote:
>
> Yes it is longer than I wanted but I couldn’t shorten it much more and
> keep all the steps in
>
> For learners to follow  As it was a skipped a couple of things and just
> described what to do
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> Very nice work there Bill.
>
> The video is a bit long, but I do think you covered every step.
>
>
>
> Thank you.
>
>
>
> C.A.G.
>
>
>
>
>
> https://youtu.be/R8j8hcQg9bg
>
>
>
> ok guys here is one more ornamental milling for beginners,
>
>
>
> episode 5 this time its milling a 2 start barley and then turning it
>
>
>
> into a hollow spiral. as they get more complex they are getting harder
>
> to show and explain how to make them I’m sorry if anyone can’t understand
> or follow
>
> it I did my best, I had a few problems too one was the ½ inch spiral bit
> was almost
>
> stuffed so smoke and burnt wood was a bit of a problem also a crack opened
> up
>
> during milling but I managed to super glue it up before it got too bad and
> edit it
>
> out of the finished video. But I got there in the end
>
>
>
> Bill
>
> .
>
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Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5

2022-10-16 Thread Tim Ziegler
yup and check out the freud one. big price diff. uff
Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 8:51 PM  wrote:

> Looks like the exact bit to me and about the same price I paid for mine
> lol
>
> We are so expensive here
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Monday, 17 October 2022 12:27 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5
>
>
>
>
> https://www.amazon.com/Spoilboard-Router-Bit-Carbide-NITOMAK/dp/B085QGLHB4/ref=sr_1_10?crid=1Y7QN81UFU3J1&keywords=3+flute+spoilboard+planing+bit.&qid=1665969834&qu=eyJxc2MiOiIxLjI3IiwicXNhIjoiMC4wMCIsInFzcCI6IjAuMDAifQ%3D%3D&sprefix=3+flute+spoil+board+planing+bit.%2Caps%2C96&sr=8-10
>
>
>
> They are not that expensive, off brand but looks ok.
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 7:25 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> I know a few friends who ONLY buy cutters with replacement blades for
> there CNC Machines.
>
> But do you feel that this bit worth the price you paid for it?
>
>
>
> C.A.G.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sunday, October 16, 2022 at 08:15:49 PM EDT, 
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> https://www.carbitool.com.au/product/3-flute-surface-planer/
>
>
>
> this
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Monday, 17 October 2022 10:34 AM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5
>
>
>
> Hey Bill what you using for the planning router bit
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 6:23 PM  wrote:
>
> Thank you
>
>
>
>
>
> Looks good
>
> On Sunday, October 16, 2022,  wrote:
>
> Yes it is longer than I wanted but I couldn’t shorten it much more and
> keep all the steps in
>
> For learners to follow  As it was a skipped a couple of things and just
> described what to do
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> Very nice work there Bill.
>
> The video is a bit long, but I do think you covered every step.
>
>
>
> Thank you.
>
>
>
> C.A.G.
>
>
>
>
>
> https://youtu.be/R8j8hcQg9bg
>
>
>
> ok guys here is one more ornamental milling for beginners,
>
>
>
> episode 5 this time its milling a 2 start barley and then turning it
>
>
>
> into a hollow spiral. as they get more complex they are getting harder
>
> to show and explain how to make them I’m sorry if anyone can’t understand
> or follow
>
> it I did my best, I had a few problems too one was the ½ inch spiral bit
> was almost
>
> stuffed so smoke and burnt wood was a bit of a problem also a crack opened
> up
>
> during milling but I managed to super glue it up before it got too bad and
> edit it
>
> out of the finished video. But I got there in the end
>
>
>
> Bill
>
> .
>
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Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5

2022-10-16 Thread Tim Ziegler
exactly, But I'm pretty impressed and have found and posted a link to
Freud's too.
Lot more money but great bit too.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 8:42 PM  wrote:

> Yea it rips the wood off doesn’t it lol
>
> But it cuts no where near as smooth as the planeing bit
>
> Works well and cuts smooth on flat stock which is
>
> What it’s made for
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Monday, 17 October 2022 11:42 AM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5
>
>
>
> Wow I am going to get one of those. I love it.
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 7:15 PM  wrote:
>
> https://www.carbitool.com.au/product/3-flute-surface-planer/
>
>
>
> this
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Monday, 17 October 2022 10:34 AM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5
>
>
>
> Hey Bill what you using for the planning router bit
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 6:23 PM  wrote:
>
> Thank you
>
>
>
>
>
> Looks good
>
> On Sunday, October 16, 2022,  wrote:
>
> Yes it is longer than I wanted but I couldn’t shorten it much more and
> keep all the steps in
>
> For learners to follow  As it was a skipped a couple of things and just
> described what to do
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> Very nice work there Bill.
>
> The video is a bit long, but I do think you covered every step.
>
>
>
> Thank you.
>
>
>
> C.A.G.
>
>
>
>
>
> https://youtu.be/R8j8hcQg9bg
>
>
>
> ok guys here is one more ornamental milling for beginners,
>
>
>
> episode 5 this time its milling a 2 start barley and then turning it
>
>
>
> into a hollow spiral. as they get more complex they are getting harder
>
> to show and explain how to make them I’m sorry if anyone can’t understand
> or follow
>
> it I did my best, I had a few problems too one was the ½ inch spiral bit
> was almost
>
> stuffed so smoke and burnt wood was a bit of a problem also a crack opened
> up
>
> during milling but I managed to super glue it up before it got too bad and
> edit it
>
> out of the finished video. But I got there in the end
>
>
>
> Bill
>
> .
>
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Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5

2022-10-16 Thread Tim Ziegler
Well in my opinion and this will go back a while back on carbide.
Brazed on Carbide is not usually as hard of grade, as the inserts.
The insert carbide is a better bet and will out last a brazed on but
at least 4 times as long on just one edge. then you have 3 more edges to
change out. But you have to buy a good brand. As the china carbide is
not as good as other brands.  See link:
https://www.acmetools.com/freud-spoilboard-surfacing-rabbeting-bit-tm1465/008925135593.html

Freud's bits are expensive but I tend to favor them, having most of my
everyday router bits being freud.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 8:32 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> I agree that one is not badly priced. But what I want it first hand info.
> Do you OR anyone in this group, think the replicable blades are as good or
> better then the normal carbide router bit? I would really like to know what
> you think?
>
> C.A.G.
>
> On Sunday, October 16, 2022 at 09:27:03 PM EDT, Tim Ziegler <
> timjzieg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> https://www.amazon.com/Spoilboard-Router-Bit-Carbide-NITOMAK/dp/B085QGLHB4/ref=sr_1_10?crid=1Y7QN81UFU3J1&keywords=3+flute+spoilboard+planing+bit.&qid=1665969834&qu=eyJxc2MiOiIxLjI3IiwicXNhIjoiMC4wMCIsInFzcCI6IjAuMDAifQ%3D%3D&sprefix=3+flute+spoil+board+planing+bit.%2Caps%2C96&sr=8-10
>
> They are not that expensive, off brand but looks ok.
> Kind Regards,
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
> On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 7:25 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>
> I know a few friends who ONLY buy cutters with replacement blades for
> there CNC Machines.
> But do you feel that this bit worth the price you paid for it?
>
> C.A.G.
>
>
>
> On Sunday, October 16, 2022 at 08:15:49 PM EDT, 
> wrote:
>
>
> https://www.carbitool.com.au/product/3-flute-surface-planer/
>
>
>
> this
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Monday, 17 October 2022 10:34 AM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5
>
>
>
> Hey Bill what you using for the planning router bit
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 6:23 PM  wrote:
>
> Thank you
>
>
>
>
>
> Looks good
>
> On Sunday, October 16, 2022,  wrote:
>
> Yes it is longer than I wanted but I couldn’t shorten it much more and
> keep all the steps in
>
> For learners to follow  As it was a skipped a couple of things and just
> described what to do
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> Very nice work there Bill.
>
> The video is a bit long, but I do think you covered every step.
>
>
>
> Thank you.
>
>
>
> C.A.G.
>
>
>
>
>
> https://youtu.be/R8j8hcQg9bg
>
>
>
> ok guys here is one more ornamental milling for beginners,
>
>
>
> episode 5 this time its milling a 2 start barley and then turning it
>
>
>
> into a hollow spiral. as they get more complex they are getting harder
>
> to show and explain how to make them I’m sorry if anyone can’t understand
> or follow
>
> it I did my best, I had a few problems too one was the ½ inch spiral bit
> was almost
>
> stuffed so smoke and burnt wood was a bit of a problem also a crack opened
> up
>
> during milling but I managed to super glue it up before it got too bad and
> edit it
>
> out of the finished video. But I got there in the end
>
>
>
> Bill
>
> .
>
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RE: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5

2022-10-16 Thread bulkeley
Ps the quality of the carbide is the quality of the bit too

Way cheaper to buy tips than replace the whole bit if it has crappy carbide

 

Bill

 

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 
Sent: Monday, 17 October 2022 12:32 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5

 

I agree that one is not badly priced. But what I want it first hand info. 

Do you OR anyone in this group, think the replicable blades are as good or 
better then the normal carbide router bit? I would really like to know what you 
think?

 

C.A.G.

 

On Sunday, October 16, 2022 at 09:27:03 PM EDT, Tim Ziegler 
mailto:timjzieg...@gmail.com> > wrote: 

 

 

https://www.amazon.com/Spoilboard-Router-Bit-Carbide-NITOMAK/dp/B085QGLHB4/ref=sr_1_10?crid=1Y7QN81UFU3J1
 
<https://www.amazon.com/Spoilboard-Router-Bit-Carbide-NITOMAK/dp/B085QGLHB4/ref=sr_1_10?crid=1Y7QN81UFU3J1&keywords=3+flute+spoilboard+planing+bit.&qid=1665969834&qu=eyJxc2MiOiIxLjI3IiwicXNhIjoiMC4wMCIsInFzcCI6IjAuMDAifQ%3D%3D&sprefix=3+flute+spoil+board+planing+bit.%2Caps%2C96&sr=8-10>
 
&keywords=3+flute+spoilboard+planing+bit.&qid=1665969834&qu=eyJxc2MiOiIxLjI3IiwicXNhIjoiMC4wMCIsInFzcCI6IjAuMDAifQ%3D%3D&sprefix=3+flute+spoil+board+planing+bit.%2Caps%2C96&sr=8-10

 

They are not that expensive, off brand but looks ok.


Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 7:25 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > wrote:

 

I know a few friends who ONLY buy cutters with replacement blades for there CNC 
Machines.

But do you feel that this bit worth the price you paid for it? 

 

C.A.G.

 

 

 

On Sunday, October 16, 2022 at 08:15:49 PM EDT, mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote: 

 

 

https://www.carbitool.com.au/product/3-flute-surface-planer/

 

this

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Monday, 17 October 2022 10:34 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5

 

Hey Bill what you using for the planning router bit 


Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 6:23 PM mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote:

Thank you

 

 

Looks good 

On Sunday, October 16, 2022, mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote:

Yes it is longer than I wanted but I couldn’t shorten it much more and keep all 
the steps in

For learners to follow  As it was a skipped a couple of things and just 
described what to do

 

Bill

 

Very nice work there Bill.

The video is a bit long, but I do think you covered every step.

 

Thank you.

 

C.A.G.

 

 

https://youtu.be/R8j8hcQg9bg

 

ok guys here is one more ornamental milling for beginners,

 

episode 5 this time its milling a 2 start barley and then turning it

 

into a hollow spiral. as they get more complex they are getting harder

to show and explain how to make them I’m sorry if anyone can’t understand or 
follow

it I did my best, I had a few problems too one was the ½ inch spiral bit was 
almost

stuffed so smoke and burnt wood was a bit of a problem also a crack opened up 

during milling but I managed to super glue it up before it got too bad and edit 
it

out of the finished video. But I got there in the end

 

Bill

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Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5

2022-10-16 Thread 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills
 Thank you.
C.A.G.
On Sunday, October 16, 2022 at 10:00:14 PM EDT,  
wrote:  
 
 
Well my opinion they cut the same but the seller for me is I don’t have to pay 
for sharpening

Just rotate the tip so for unknown woods or possible foren matter in the wood

Or just plain out doing a great deal of work replaceable carbide wins

  

Bill

  

  

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 
Sent: Monday, 17 October 2022 12:32 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5

  

I agree that one is not badly priced. But what I want it first hand info. 

Do you OR anyone in this group, think the replicable blades are as good or 
better then the normal carbide router bit? I would really like to know what you 
think?

  

C.A.G.

  

On Sunday, October 16, 2022 at 09:27:03 PM EDT, Tim Ziegler 
 wrote: 

  

  

https://www.amazon.com/Spoilboard-Router-Bit-Carbide-NITOMAK/dp/B085QGLHB4/ref=sr_1_10?crid=1Y7QN81UFU3J1&keywords=3+flute+spoilboard+planing+bit.&qid=1665969834&qu=eyJxc2MiOiIxLjI3IiwicXNhIjoiMC4wMCIsInFzcCI6IjAuMDAifQ%3D%3D&sprefix=3+flute+spoil+board+planing+bit.%2Caps%2C96&sr=8-10

  

They are not that expensive, off brand but looks ok.


Kind Regards,

  

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

  

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

  

  

On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 7:25 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 wrote:


  

I know a few friends who ONLY buy cutters with replacement blades for there CNC 
Machines.

But do you feel that this bit worth the price you paid for it? 

  

C.A.G.

  

  

  

On Sunday, October 16, 2022 at 08:15:49 PM EDT,  wrote: 

  

  

https://www.carbitool.com.au/product/3-flute-surface-planer/

 

this

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Monday, 17 October 2022 10:34 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5

 

Hey Bill what you using for the planning router bit 


Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 6:23 PM  wrote:


Thank you

 

 

Looks good 

On Sunday, October 16, 2022,  wrote:


Yes it is longer than I wanted but I couldn’t shorten it much more and keep all 
the steps in

For learners to follow  As it was a skipped a couple of things and just 
described what to do

 

Bill

 

Very nice work there Bill.

The video is a bit long, but I do think you covered every step.

 

Thank you.

 

C.A.G.

 

 

https://youtu.be/R8j8hcQg9bg

 

ok guys here is one more ornamental milling for beginners,

 

episode 5 this time its milling a 2 start barley and then turning it

 

into a hollow spiral. as they get more complex they are getting harder

to show and explain how to make them I’m sorry if anyone can’t understand or 
follow

it I did my best, I had a few problems too one was the ½ inch spiral bit was 
almost

stuffed so smoke and burnt wood was a bit of a problem also a crack opened up 

during milling but I managed to super glue it up before it got too bad and edit 
it

out of the finished video. But I got there in the end

 

Bill


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RE: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5

2022-10-16 Thread bulkeley
Well my opinion they cut the same but the seller for me is I don’t have to pay 
for sharpening

Just rotate the tip so for unknown woods or possible foren matter in the wood

Or just plain out doing a great deal of work replaceable carbide wins

 

Bill

 

 

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 
Sent: Monday, 17 October 2022 12:32 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5

 

I agree that one is not badly priced. But what I want it first hand info. 

Do you OR anyone in this group, think the replicable blades are as good or 
better then the normal carbide router bit? I would really like to know what you 
think?

 

C.A.G.

 

On Sunday, October 16, 2022 at 09:27:03 PM EDT, Tim Ziegler 
mailto:timjzieg...@gmail.com> > wrote: 

 

 

https://www.amazon.com/Spoilboard-Router-Bit-Carbide-NITOMAK/dp/B085QGLHB4/ref=sr_1_10?crid=1Y7QN81UFU3J1
 
<https://www.amazon.com/Spoilboard-Router-Bit-Carbide-NITOMAK/dp/B085QGLHB4/ref=sr_1_10?crid=1Y7QN81UFU3J1&keywords=3+flute+spoilboard+planing+bit.&qid=1665969834&qu=eyJxc2MiOiIxLjI3IiwicXNhIjoiMC4wMCIsInFzcCI6IjAuMDAifQ%3D%3D&sprefix=3+flute+spoil+board+planing+bit.%2Caps%2C96&sr=8-10>
 
&keywords=3+flute+spoilboard+planing+bit.&qid=1665969834&qu=eyJxc2MiOiIxLjI3IiwicXNhIjoiMC4wMCIsInFzcCI6IjAuMDAifQ%3D%3D&sprefix=3+flute+spoil+board+planing+bit.%2Caps%2C96&sr=8-10

 

They are not that expensive, off brand but looks ok.


Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 7:25 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > wrote:

 

I know a few friends who ONLY buy cutters with replacement blades for there CNC 
Machines.

But do you feel that this bit worth the price you paid for it? 

 

C.A.G.

 

 

 

On Sunday, October 16, 2022 at 08:15:49 PM EDT, mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote: 

 

 

https://www.carbitool.com.au/product/3-flute-surface-planer/

 

this

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Monday, 17 October 2022 10:34 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5

 

Hey Bill what you using for the planning router bit 


Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 6:23 PM mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote:

Thank you

 

 

Looks good 

On Sunday, October 16, 2022, mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote:

Yes it is longer than I wanted but I couldn’t shorten it much more and keep all 
the steps in

For learners to follow  As it was a skipped a couple of things and just 
described what to do

 

Bill

 

Very nice work there Bill.

The video is a bit long, but I do think you covered every step.

 

Thank you.

 

C.A.G.

 

 

https://youtu.be/R8j8hcQg9bg

 

ok guys here is one more ornamental milling for beginners,

 

episode 5 this time its milling a 2 start barley and then turning it

 

into a hollow spiral. as they get more complex they are getting harder

to show and explain how to make them I’m sorry if anyone can’t understand or 
follow

it I did my best, I had a few problems too one was the ½ inch spiral bit was 
almost

stuffed so smoke and burnt wood was a bit of a problem also a crack opened up 

during milling but I managed to super glue it up before it got too bad and edit 
it

out of the finished video. But I got there in the end

 

Bill

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RE: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5

2022-10-16 Thread bulkeley
Looks like the exact bit to me and about the same price I paid for mine lol

We are so expensive here

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Monday, 17 October 2022 12:27 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5

 

https://www.amazon.com/Spoilboard-Router-Bit-Carbide-NITOMAK/dp/B085QGLHB4/ref=sr_1_10?crid=1Y7QN81UFU3J1
 
<https://www.amazon.com/Spoilboard-Router-Bit-Carbide-NITOMAK/dp/B085QGLHB4/ref=sr_1_10?crid=1Y7QN81UFU3J1&keywords=3+flute+spoilboard+planing+bit.&qid=1665969834&qu=eyJxc2MiOiIxLjI3IiwicXNhIjoiMC4wMCIsInFzcCI6IjAuMDAifQ%3D%3D&sprefix=3+flute+spoil+board+planing+bit.%2Caps%2C96&sr=8-10>
 
&keywords=3+flute+spoilboard+planing+bit.&qid=1665969834&qu=eyJxc2MiOiIxLjI3IiwicXNhIjoiMC4wMCIsInFzcCI6IjAuMDAifQ%3D%3D&sprefix=3+flute+spoil+board+planing+bit.%2Caps%2C96&sr=8-10

 

They are not that expensive, off brand but looks ok.


Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 7:25 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > wrote:

 

I know a few friends who ONLY buy cutters with replacement blades for there CNC 
Machines.

But do you feel that this bit worth the price you paid for it? 

 

C.A.G.

 

 

 

On Sunday, October 16, 2022 at 08:15:49 PM EDT, mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote: 

 

 

https://www.carbitool.com.au/product/3-flute-surface-planer/

 

this

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Monday, 17 October 2022 10:34 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5

 

Hey Bill what you using for the planning router bit 


Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 6:23 PM mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote:

Thank you

 

 

Looks good 

On Sunday, October 16, 2022, mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote:

Yes it is longer than I wanted but I couldn’t shorten it much more and keep all 
the steps in

For learners to follow  As it was a skipped a couple of things and just 
described what to do

 

Bill

 

Very nice work there Bill.

The video is a bit long, but I do think you covered every step.

 

Thank you.

 

C.A.G.

 

 

https://youtu.be/R8j8hcQg9bg

 

ok guys here is one more ornamental milling for beginners,

 

episode 5 this time its milling a 2 start barley and then turning it

 

into a hollow spiral. as they get more complex they are getting harder

to show and explain how to make them I’m sorry if anyone can’t understand or 
follow

it I did my best, I had a few problems too one was the ½ inch spiral bit was 
almost

stuffed so smoke and burnt wood was a bit of a problem also a crack opened up 

during milling but I managed to super glue it up before it got too bad and edit 
it

out of the finished video. But I got there in the end

 

Bill

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RE: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5

2022-10-16 Thread bulkeley
Yea it rips the wood off doesn’t it lol

But it cuts no where near as smooth as the planeing bit 

Works well and cuts smooth on flat stock which is

What it’s made for

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Monday, 17 October 2022 11:42 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5

 

Wow I am going to get one of those. I love it. 




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 7:15 PM mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote:

https://www.carbitool.com.au/product/3-flute-surface-planer/

 

this

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Monday, 17 October 2022 10:34 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5

 

Hey Bill what you using for the planning router bit 


Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 6:23 PM mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote:

Thank you

 

 

Looks good 

On Sunday, October 16, 2022, mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote:

Yes it is longer than I wanted but I couldn’t shorten it much more and keep all 
the steps in

For learners to follow  As it was a skipped a couple of things and just 
described what to do

 

Bill

 

Very nice work there Bill.

The video is a bit long, but I do think you covered every step.

 

Thank you.

 

C.A.G.

 

 

https://youtu.be/R8j8hcQg9bg

 

ok guys here is one more ornamental milling for beginners,

 

episode 5 this time its milling a 2 start barley and then turning it

 

into a hollow spiral. as they get more complex they are getting harder

to show and explain how to make them I’m sorry if anyone can’t understand or 
follow

it I did my best, I had a few problems too one was the ½ inch spiral bit was 
almost

stuffed so smoke and burnt wood was a bit of a problem also a crack opened up 

during milling but I managed to super glue it up before it got too bad and edit 
it

out of the finished video. But I got there in the end

 

Bill

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RE: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5

2022-10-16 Thread bulkeley
I didn’t say I paid that for it in fact I paid a great deal less it was a show 
special the last one another

Opposition company was selling because they couldn’t get tips for it

Which I easily got from the company in the link I sent you not

Sure what was the go there and I didn’t ask it was under $100 I couldn’t get my 
wallet out fast enough lol

 

Bill 

 

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 
Sent: Monday, 17 October 2022 11:25 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5

 

 

I know a few friends who ONLY buy cutters with replacement blades for there CNC 
Machines.

But do you feel that this bit worth the price you paid for it? 

 

C.A.G.

 

 

 

On Sunday, October 16, 2022 at 08:15:49 PM EDT, mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote: 

 

 

https://www.carbitool.com.au/product/3-flute-surface-planer/

 

this

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Monday, 17 October 2022 10:34 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5

 

Hey Bill what you using for the planning router bit 


Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 6:23 PM mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote:

Thank you

 

 

Looks good 

On Sunday, October 16, 2022, mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote:

Yes it is longer than I wanted but I couldn’t shorten it much more and keep all 
the steps in

For learners to follow  As it was a skipped a couple of things and just 
described what to do

 

Bill

 

Very nice work there Bill.

The video is a bit long, but I do think you covered every step.

 

Thank you.

 

C.A.G.

 

 

https://youtu.be/R8j8hcQg9bg

 

ok guys here is one more ornamental milling for beginners,

 

episode 5 this time its milling a 2 start barley and then turning it

 

into a hollow spiral. as they get more complex they are getting harder

to show and explain how to make them I’m sorry if anyone can’t understand or 
follow

it I did my best, I had a few problems too one was the ½ inch spiral bit was 
almost

stuffed so smoke and burnt wood was a bit of a problem also a crack opened up 

during milling but I managed to super glue it up before it got too bad and edit 
it

out of the finished video. But I got there in the end

 

Bill

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Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5

2022-10-16 Thread 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills
 I agree that one is not badly priced. But what I want it first hand info. Do 
you OR anyone in this group, think the replicable blades are as good or better 
then the normal carbide router bit? I would really like to know what you think?
C.A.G.
On Sunday, October 16, 2022 at 09:27:03 PM EDT, Tim Ziegler 
 wrote:  
 
 
https://www.amazon.com/Spoilboard-Router-Bit-Carbide-NITOMAK/dp/B085QGLHB4/ref=sr_1_10?crid=1Y7QN81UFU3J1&keywords=3+flute+spoilboard+planing+bit.&qid=1665969834&qu=eyJxc2MiOiIxLjI3IiwicXNhIjoiMC4wMCIsInFzcCI6IjAuMDAifQ%3D%3D&sprefix=3+flute+spoil+board+planing+bit.%2Caps%2C96&sr=8-10
They are not that expensive, off brand but looks ok.
Kind Regards,
Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & Specialty14171 160th Ave.Foreston MN 56330
320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cell

On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 7:25 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 wrote:

 
I know a few friends who ONLY buy cutters with replacement blades for there CNC 
Machines.But do you feel that this bit worth the price you paid for it? 
C.A.G.


On Sunday, October 16, 2022 at 08:15:49 PM EDT,  
wrote:  
 
 
https://www.carbitool.com.au/product/3-flute-surface-planer/

  

this

  

Bill

  

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Monday, 17 October 2022 10:34 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5

  

Hey Bill what you using for the planning router bit 


Kind Regards,

  

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

  

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

  

  

On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 6:23 PM  wrote:


Thank you

 

 

Looks good 

On Sunday, October 16, 2022,  wrote:


Yes it is longer than I wanted but I couldn’t shorten it much more and keep all 
the steps in

For learners to follow  As it was a skipped a couple of things and just 
described what to do

 

Bill

 

Very nice work there Bill.

The video is a bit long, but I do think you covered every step.

 

Thank you.

 

C.A.G.

 

 

https://youtu.be/R8j8hcQg9bg

 

ok guys here is one more ornamental milling for beginners,

 

episode 5 this time its milling a 2 start barley and then turning it

 

into a hollow spiral. as they get more complex they are getting harder

to show and explain how to make them I’m sorry if anyone can’t understand or 
follow

it I did my best, I had a few problems too one was the ½ inch spiral bit was 
almost

stuffed so smoke and burnt wood was a bit of a problem also a crack opened up 

during milling but I managed to super glue it up before it got too bad and edit 
it

out of the finished video. But I got there in the end

 

Bill


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Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5

2022-10-16 Thread Tim Ziegler
https://www.amazon.com/Spoilboard-Router-Bit-Carbide-NITOMAK/dp/B085QGLHB4/ref=sr_1_10?crid=1Y7QN81UFU3J1&keywords=3+flute+spoilboard+planing+bit.&qid=1665969834&qu=eyJxc2MiOiIxLjI3IiwicXNhIjoiMC4wMCIsInFzcCI6IjAuMDAifQ%3D%3D&sprefix=3+flute+spoil+board+planing+bit.%2Caps%2C96&sr=8-10

They are not that expensive, off brand but looks ok.
Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 7:25 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:

>
> I know a few friends who ONLY buy cutters with replacement blades for
> there CNC Machines.
> But do you feel that this bit worth the price you paid for it?
>
> C.A.G.
>
>
>
> On Sunday, October 16, 2022 at 08:15:49 PM EDT, 
> wrote:
>
>
> https://www.carbitool.com.au/product/3-flute-surface-planer/
>
>
>
> this
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Monday, 17 October 2022 10:34 AM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5
>
>
>
> Hey Bill what you using for the planning router bit
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 6:23 PM  wrote:
>
> Thank you
>
>
>
>
>
> Looks good
>
> On Sunday, October 16, 2022,  wrote:
>
> Yes it is longer than I wanted but I couldn’t shorten it much more and
> keep all the steps in
>
> For learners to follow  As it was a skipped a couple of things and just
> described what to do
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> Very nice work there Bill.
>
> The video is a bit long, but I do think you covered every step.
>
>
>
> Thank you.
>
>
>
> C.A.G.
>
>
>
>
>
> https://youtu.be/R8j8hcQg9bg
>
>
>
> ok guys here is one more ornamental milling for beginners,
>
>
>
> episode 5 this time its milling a 2 start barley and then turning it
>
>
>
> into a hollow spiral. as they get more complex they are getting harder
>
> to show and explain how to make them I’m sorry if anyone can’t understand
> or follow
>
> it I did my best, I had a few problems too one was the ½ inch spiral bit
> was almost
>
> stuffed so smoke and burnt wood was a bit of a problem also a crack opened
> up
>
> during milling but I managed to super glue it up before it got too bad and
> edit it
>
> out of the finished video. But I got there in the end
>
>
>
> Bill
>
> .
>
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Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5

2022-10-16 Thread Tim Ziegler
Wow I am going to get one of those. I love it.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 7:15 PM  wrote:

> https://www.carbitool.com.au/product/3-flute-surface-planer/
>
>
>
> this
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Monday, 17 October 2022 10:34 AM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5
>
>
>
> Hey Bill what you using for the planning router bit
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 6:23 PM  wrote:
>
> Thank you
>
>
>
>
>
> Looks good
>
> On Sunday, October 16, 2022,  wrote:
>
> Yes it is longer than I wanted but I couldn’t shorten it much more and
> keep all the steps in
>
> For learners to follow  As it was a skipped a couple of things and just
> described what to do
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> Very nice work there Bill.
>
> The video is a bit long, but I do think you covered every step.
>
>
>
> Thank you.
>
>
>
> C.A.G.
>
>
>
>
>
> https://youtu.be/R8j8hcQg9bg
>
>
>
> ok guys here is one more ornamental milling for beginners,
>
>
>
> episode 5 this time its milling a 2 start barley and then turning it
>
>
>
> into a hollow spiral. as they get more complex they are getting harder
>
> to show and explain how to make them I’m sorry if anyone can’t understand
> or follow
>
> it I did my best, I had a few problems too one was the ½ inch spiral bit
> was almost
>
> stuffed so smoke and burnt wood was a bit of a problem also a crack opened
> up
>
> during milling but I managed to super glue it up before it got too bad and
> edit it
>
> out of the finished video. But I got there in the end
>
>
>
> Bill
>
> .
>
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Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5

2022-10-16 Thread 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills
 
I know a few friends who ONLY buy cutters with replacement blades for there CNC 
Machines.But do you feel that this bit worth the price you paid for it? 
C.A.G.


On Sunday, October 16, 2022 at 08:15:49 PM EDT,  
wrote:  
 
 
https://www.carbitool.com.au/product/3-flute-surface-planer/

  

this

  

Bill

  

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Monday, 17 October 2022 10:34 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5

  

Hey Bill what you using for the planning router bit 


Kind Regards,

  

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

  

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

  

  

On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 6:23 PM  wrote:


Thank you

 

 

Looks good 

On Sunday, October 16, 2022,  wrote:


Yes it is longer than I wanted but I couldn’t shorten it much more and keep all 
the steps in

For learners to follow  As it was a skipped a couple of things and just 
described what to do

 

Bill

 

Very nice work there Bill.

The video is a bit long, but I do think you covered every step.

 

Thank you.

 

C.A.G.

 

 

https://youtu.be/R8j8hcQg9bg

 

ok guys here is one more ornamental milling for beginners,

 

episode 5 this time its milling a 2 start barley and then turning it

 

into a hollow spiral. as they get more complex they are getting harder

to show and explain how to make them I’m sorry if anyone can’t understand or 
follow

it I did my best, I had a few problems too one was the ½ inch spiral bit was 
almost

stuffed so smoke and burnt wood was a bit of a problem also a crack opened up 

during milling but I managed to super glue it up before it got too bad and edit 
it

out of the finished video. But I got there in the end

 

Bill


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RE: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5

2022-10-16 Thread bulkeley
https://www.carbitool.com.au/product/3-flute-surface-planer/

 

this

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Monday, 17 October 2022 10:34 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5

 

Hey Bill what you using for the planning router bit 


Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 6:23 PM mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote:

Thank you

 

 

Looks good 

On Sunday, October 16, 2022, mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote:

Yes it is longer than I wanted but I couldn’t shorten it much more and keep all 
the steps in

For learners to follow  As it was a skipped a couple of things and just 
described what to do

 

Bill

 

Very nice work there Bill.

The video is a bit long, but I do think you covered every step.

 

Thank you.

 

C.A.G.

 

 

https://youtu.be/R8j8hcQg9bg

 

ok guys here is one more ornamental milling for beginners,

 

episode 5 this time its milling a 2 start barley and then turning it

 

into a hollow spiral. as they get more complex they are getting harder

to show and explain how to make them I’m sorry if anyone can’t understand or 
follow

it I did my best, I had a few problems too one was the ½ inch spiral bit was 
almost

stuffed so smoke and burnt wood was a bit of a problem also a crack opened up 

during milling but I managed to super glue it up before it got too bad and edit 
it

out of the finished video. But I got there in the end

 

Bill

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Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5

2022-10-16 Thread Tim Ziegler
Hey Bill what you using for the planning router bit
Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
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On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 6:23 PM  wrote:

> Thank you
>
>
>
>
>
> Looks good
>
> On Sunday, October 16, 2022,  wrote:
>
> Yes it is longer than I wanted but I couldn’t shorten it much more and
> keep all the steps in
>
> For learners to follow  As it was a skipped a couple of things and just
> described what to do
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> Very nice work there Bill.
>
> The video is a bit long, but I do think you covered every step.
>
>
>
> Thank you.
>
>
>
> C.A.G.
>
>
>
>
>
> https://youtu.be/R8j8hcQg9bg
>
>
>
> ok guys here is one more ornamental milling for beginners,
>
>
>
> episode 5 this time its milling a 2 start barley and then turning it
>
>
>
> into a hollow spiral. as they get more complex they are getting harder
>
> to show and explain how to make them I’m sorry if anyone can’t understand
> or follow
>
> it I did my best, I had a few problems too one was the ½ inch spiral bit
> was almost
>
> stuffed so smoke and burnt wood was a bit of a problem also a crack opened
> up
>
> during milling but I managed to super glue it up before it got too bad and
> edit it
>
> out of the finished video. But I got there in the end
>
>
>
> Bill
>
> .
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RE: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5

2022-10-16 Thread bulkeley
Thank you

 

 

Looks good 

On Sunday, October 16, 2022, mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote:

Yes it is longer than I wanted but I couldn’t shorten it much more and keep all 
the steps in

For learners to follow  As it was a skipped a couple of things and just 
described what to do

 

Bill

 

Very nice work there Bill.

The video is a bit long, but I do think you covered every step.

 

Thank you.

 

C.A.G.

 

 

https://youtu.be/R8j8hcQg9bg

 

ok guys here is one more ornamental milling for beginners,

 

episode 5 this time its milling a 2 start barley and then turning it

 

into a hollow spiral. as they get more complex they are getting harder

to show and explain how to make them I’m sorry if anyone can’t understand or 
follow

it I did my best, I had a few problems too one was the ½ inch spiral bit was 
almost

stuffed so smoke and burnt wood was a bit of a problem also a crack opened up 

during milling but I managed to super glue it up before it got too bad and edit 
it

out of the finished video. But I got there in the end

 

Bill

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Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5

2022-10-16 Thread Tim Ziegler
Yeah but I'd rather it be slightly long than miss details.
I'm excited to watch it and I think I will watch it this evening.
I have been plumbing today.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
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On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 2:32 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Very nice work there Bill.
> The video is a bit long, but I do think you covered every step.
>
> Thank you.
>
> C.A.G.
>
> On Sunday, October 16, 2022 at 01:11:01 AM EDT, bulke...@mmnet.com.au <
> bulke...@mmnet.com.au> wrote:
>
>
> https://youtu.be/R8j8hcQg9bg
>
>
>
> ok guys here is one more ornamental milling for beginners,
>
>
>
> episode 5 this time its milling a 2 start barley and then turning it
>
>
>
> into a hollow spiral. as they get more complex they are getting harder
>
> to show and explain how to make them I’m sorry if anyone can’t understand
> or follow
>
> it I did my best, I had a few problems too one was the ½ inch spiral bit
> was almost
>
> stuffed so smoke and burnt wood was a bit of a problem also a crack opened
> up
>
> during milling but I managed to super glue it up before it got too bad and
> edit it
>
> out of the finished video. But I got there in the end
>
>
>
> Bill
>
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Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5

2022-10-16 Thread Ccm Ccm
Looks good

On Sunday, October 16, 2022,  wrote:

> Yes it is longer than I wanted but I couldn’t shorten it much more and
> keep all the steps in
>
> For learners to follow  As it was a skipped a couple of things and just
> described what to do
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>
> *Sent:* Monday, 17 October 2022 6:32 AM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5
>
>
>
> Very nice work there Bill.
>
> The video is a bit long, but I do think you covered every step.
>
>
>
> Thank you.
>
>
>
> C.A.G.
>
>
>
> On Sunday, October 16, 2022 at 01:11:01 AM EDT, bulke...@mmnet.com.au <
> bulke...@mmnet.com.au> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> https://youtu.be/R8j8hcQg9bg
>
>
>
> ok guys here is one more ornamental milling for beginners,
>
>
>
> episode 5 this time its milling a 2 start barley and then turning it
>
>
>
> into a hollow spiral. as they get more complex they are getting harder
>
> to show and explain how to make them I’m sorry if anyone can’t understand
> or follow
>
> it I did my best, I had a few problems too one was the ½ inch spiral bit
> was almost
>
> stuffed so smoke and burnt wood was a bit of a problem also a crack opened
> up
>
> during milling but I managed to super glue it up before it got too bad and
> edit it
>
> out of the finished video. But I got there in the end
>
>
>
> Bill
>
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RE: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5

2022-10-16 Thread bulkeley
Yes it is longer than I wanted but I couldn’t shorten it much more and keep all 
the steps in

For learners to follow  As it was a skipped a couple of things and just 
described what to do

 

Bill

 

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 
Sent: Monday, 17 October 2022 6:32 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5

 

Very nice work there Bill.

The video is a bit long, but I do think you covered every step.

 

Thank you.

 

C.A.G.

 

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<mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au>  mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote: 

 

 

https://youtu.be/R8j8hcQg9bg

 

ok guys here is one more ornamental milling for beginners,

 

episode 5 this time its milling a 2 start barley and then turning it

 

into a hollow spiral. as they get more complex they are getting harder

to show and explain how to make them I’m sorry if anyone can’t understand or 
follow

it I did my best, I had a few problems too one was the ½ inch spiral bit was 
almost

stuffed so smoke and burnt wood was a bit of a problem also a crack opened up 

during milling but I managed to super glue it up before it got too bad and edit 
it

out of the finished video. But I got there in the end

 

Bill

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Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5

2022-10-16 Thread 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills
 Very nice work there Bill.The video is a bit long, but I do think you covered 
every step.
Thank you.
C.A.G.
On Sunday, October 16, 2022 at 01:11:01 AM EDT, bulke...@mmnet.com.au 
 wrote:  
 
 
https://youtu.be/R8j8hcQg9bg

  

ok guys here is one more ornamental milling for beginners,

  

 episode 5 this time its milling a 2 start barley and then turning it

  

into a hollow spiral. as they get more complex they are getting harder

to show and explain how to make them I’m sorry if anyone can’t understand or 
follow

it I did my best, I had a few problems too one was the ½ inch spiral bit was 
almost

stuffed so smoke and burnt wood was a bit of a problem also a crack opened up 

during milling but I managed to super glue it up before it got too bad and edit 
it

out of the finished video. But I got there in the end

  

Bill
 

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Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5

2022-10-16 Thread Tim Ziegler
Awesome can't wait to get home and watch it Bill.
Tim

On Sun, Oct 16, 2022, 12:11 AM  wrote:

> https://youtu.be/R8j8hcQg9bg
>
>
>
> ok guys here is one more ornamental milling for beginners,
>
>
>
> episode 5 this time its milling a 2 start barley and then turning it
>
>
>
> into a hollow spiral. as they get more complex they are getting harder
>
> to show and explain how to make them I’m sorry if anyone can’t understand
> or follow
>
> it I did my best, I had a few problems too one was the ½ inch spiral bit
> was almost
>
> stuffed so smoke and burnt wood was a bit of a problem also a crack opened
> up
>
> during milling but I managed to super glue it up before it got too bad and
> edit it
>
> out of the finished video. But I got there in the end
>
>
>
> Bill
>
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ornamental milling for beginners episode 5

2022-10-15 Thread bulkeley
https://youtu.be/R8j8hcQg9bg

 

ok guys here is one more ornamental milling for beginners,

 

episode 5 this time its milling a 2 start barley and then turning it

 

into a hollow spiral. as they get more complex they are getting harder

to show and explain how to make them I’m sorry if anyone can’t understand or
follow

it I did my best, I had a few problems too one was the ½ inch spiral bit was
almost

stuffed so smoke and burnt wood was a bit of a problem also a crack opened
up 

during milling but I managed to super glue it up before it got too bad and
edit it

out of the finished video. But I got there in the end

 

Bill

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Milling a Karate Bo Staff

2022-03-26 Thread bulkeley
Ok updated video on youtube of milling the Bo Staff showing the finished
staff

https://youtu.be/TdcQtFDe3VI

 

Bill

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Re: milling a post longer than your mill

2021-11-29 Thread Jeff Richmond
Thanks for the tip. 

Jeff from Connecticut

> On Nov 28, 2021, at 9:07 PM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:
> 
> 
> If your post is square you can make up something similar to this (see pics) 
> to put at the end of your mill instead of the tailstock to hold the longer 
> than the mill post it runs on bearings on a base you could mount to your mill 
> so a cuck on one end the steady on the other and end for end and wola you 
> mill a post longer than your mill.
>  
> And don’t for get you can always join several shorter posts together to make 
> a longer post too.
> This is how I would do it just my opinion.
>  
> Bill
>  
>  
> From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
>  On Behalf Of bulke...@mmnet.com.au
> Sent: Monday, 29 November 2021 12:31 PM
> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: New member introduction
>  
> Also if you hold the work in a chuck and the other end in a steady rest you 
> can do it all in just the mill . do half then end for end and do the second 
> half
>  
> Bill
>  
> From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
>  
> Sent: Monday, 29 November 2021 12:19 PM
> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: New member introduction
>  
> Hello again Jeff
>  
> Your 900 can turn a 8' post if you only turn 4' at a time. It will take some 
> slight modifications, like removing your tailstock on the legacy and using 
> some time of object to hold the end of your stock. 
> I small hole in the wall in my garage did it first, to hold my live center.
> Then latter I extended my rails.
> Mike added another lathe tail stock to his Wood Chuck. 
>  
> When there is a will, there is Always a way! ;-)
>  
> C.A.G.
>  
> On Sunday, November 28, 2021, 08:08:06 PM EST, Jeff Richmond 
>  wrote:
>  
>  
> Thanks for the background Mike and the warm welcome. I think I saw some snow 
> coming down today. 
>  
> I have a goal of being able to do 8’ posts in the future (not on my stock 
> 900) but a 15’ post must be a sight to behold and a real bear to move around. 
> I am not familiar with the previous generation models and their compatibility 
> with the newer manual / driven mills. I am not sure what generation to call 
> these since Legacy improved something it seemed almost every year for a while 
> and came out with yet another model / package to offer.
>  
> Jeff from Connecticut 
>  
> 
> On Nov 28, 2021, at 6:43 PM, Okla Mike (Liltwisted)  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> Welcome to the group Jeff.  I'm with you on the smell of burnt   
> I don't like it at all.  Air exchange as well as a good filtered mask is a 
> must. 
> 
> The Wood Chuck in the picture has one very important mod that was made by the 
> owner.  He took the 1 X 2 steel rail off the front and replaced it with a 2 X 
> 2 That I am sure helped with a lot of the sway that would turn up in the big 
> bladed cuts.  The next model after the wood chuck was the Steely as we call 
> them.  They used square galvanized tubes to add strength.  I still use my 
> Woodchuck because I can do a lot more in the way of modifications when the 
> center points are raised and not trapped between rails.  I have done 15 foot 
> posts and table bases with a diameter of 25" All the way down to roping a 
> tooth pick.  Welcome to the group that does not accept "limitations"
> 
> Mike OK
> 
> On 11/28/2021 7:01 AM, Jeff Richmond wrote:
> Hello Everyone,
>  
> I recently joined this group in late October as a fellow owner of a Legacy 
> Ornamental Mill with the hopes of learning more about this tool and its 
> capabilities. Thanks in advance to everyone for sharing offering your 
> experiences and helpful tips that a user group like this provides. 
>  
> To add a little input to the recent group conversations
>  
> Bone Turning, I have turned some deer antler pens upon request which were 
> well seasoned (dry) but there was a distinct smell like burnt skin / 
> fingernail during the process. They came out well but it is not a medium I 
> prefer to focus on.
>  
> Lookout for used mills: I am always on the lookout for parts and accessories 
> for my mill as I am sure most of you are. I do not need another (at least 
> that what I have to keep telling myself) but in my searching, I did bump into 
> this one if anyone wants to expand their capability. It is a little older but 
> it appears to have a variety of gears as well as the manuals and 
> instructional videos ( including a VHS player )  Legacy ( Woodchuck ) 
> Ornamental Mill - tools - by owner - sale (craigslist.org)
>  
> Jeff from Connecticut
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