Re: Posting to LOM group

[Jeff Richmond]

Interesting design Dan. Yes, apple wood is very dense.Jeff from Connecticut Sent from my iPhoneOn Dec 18, 2023, at 11:12 PM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:Here is some of Dan's work. He tried posting but it did not go through. Please check it out and let us know if your getting posts?Kind Regards,Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & SpecialtyZiegler Laser Worx LLC14171 160th Ave.Foreston MN 56330320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cell-- Forwarded message -From: Dan Krager <cdkra...@gmail.com>Date: Mon, Dec 18, 2023 at 4:10 PMSubject: Posting to LOM groupTo: timjzieg...@gmail.com <timjzieg...@gmail.com>Here's what I try to post.  No error message, just blinks and doesn't post.
Merry Christmas, everyone!It's been 
pretty quiet for wood projects using the mill, so here's a random one 
completed today for no other reason than that it was there.The role of 
the mill was to index the five flutes and establish the taper of the 
flutes.  The rest was turned on wood lathe and carved detail touchup.  
There is a hole to accommodate the 3 1/2" test tube so a live flower bud
 could be displayed for a bit. Spalted apple wood.  Man, that stuff is 
HARD!  DanK

DanK 




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Re: Posting to LOM group

[Tim Ziegler]

Hey Dan,

Yes that is an absolutely beautiful LOM turning combo.
I really appreciate the fact you left the color original and let the beauty
of the wood show.
Nice job. Do you have any local woodworking shows you will be showing it?
I'd like to see another picture with the bud glass and flower in it.
Thanks for sharing some of your work.
Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Mon, Dec 18, 2023 at 10:44 PM  wrote:

> Very nice Dan sorry I missed it
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 19, 2023 3:13 PM
> *To:* LOM Group 
> *Subject:* Fwd: Posting to LOM group
>
>
>
> Here is some of Dan's work. He tried posting but it did not go through.
>
> Please check it out and let us know if your getting posts?
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
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> From: *Dan Krager* 
> Date: Mon, Dec 18, 2023 at 4:10 PM
> Subject: Posting to LOM group
> To: timjzieg...@gmail.com 
>
>
>
> Here's what I try to post.  No error message, just blinks and doesn't post.
>
> Merry Christmas, everyone!
>
>
>
> It's been pretty quiet for wood projects using the mill, so here's a
> random one completed today for no other reason than that it was there.The
> role of the mill was to index the five flutes and establish the taper of
> the flutes.  The rest was turned on wood lathe and carved detail touchup.
> There is a hole to accommodate the 3 1/2" test tube so a live flower bud
> could be displayed for a bit. Spalted apple wood.  Man, that stuff is HARD!
>
>
>
> DanK
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> DanK
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RE: Posting to LOM group

[bulkeley]

Very nice Dan sorry I missed it

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2023 3:13 PM
To: LOM Group 
Subject: Fwd: Posting to LOM group

 

Here is some of Dan's work. He tried posting but it did not go through. 

Please check it out and let us know if your getting posts?




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

Ziegler Laser Worx LLC

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

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Date: Mon, Dec 18, 2023 at 4:10 PM
Subject: Posting to LOM group
To: timjzieg...@gmail.com <mailto:timjzieg...@gmail.com>  
mailto:timjzieg...@gmail.com> >

 

Here's what I try to post.  No error message, just blinks and doesn't post.

Merry Christmas, everyone!

 

It's been pretty quiet for wood projects using the mill, so here's a random one 
completed today for no other reason than that it was there.The role of the mill 
was to index the five flutes and establish the taper of the flutes.  The rest 
was turned on wood lathe and carved detail touchup.  There is a hole to 
accommodate the 3 1/2" test tube so a live flower bud could be displayed for a 
bit. Spalted apple wood.  Man, that stuff is HARD!

  

DanK

DanK

  
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Re: Posting to LOM group

['Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills]

 Sorry about the problems posting, Dan.
Very Nice vase. 
I like to turn fruit wood, its always a challenge. 
Good job. ;-)
thanks for sharing.
C.A.G.
On Monday, December 18, 2023 at 11:12:49 PM EST, Tim Ziegler 
 wrote:  
 
 Here is some of Dan's work. He tried posting but it did not go through. Please 
check it out and let us know if your getting posts?
Kind Regards,
Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & SpecialtyZiegler Laser Worx LLC14171 160th 
Ave.Foreston MN 56330
320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cell

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From: Dan Krager 
Date: Mon, Dec 18, 2023 at 4:10 PM
Subject: Posting to LOM group
To: timjzieg...@gmail.com 


Here's what I try to post.  No error message, just blinks and doesn't 
post.Merry Christmas, everyone!
It's been pretty quiet for wood projects using the mill, so here's a random one 
completed today for no other reason than that it was there.The role of the mill 
was to index the five flutes and establish the taper of the flutes.  The rest 
was turned on wood lathe and carved detail touchup.  There is a hole to 
accommodate the 3 1/2" test tube so a live flower bud could be displayed for a 
bit. Spalted apple wood.  Man, that stuff is HARD!
  
DanK
DanK


 

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Fwd: Posting to LOM group

[Tim Ziegler]

Here is some of Dan's work. He tried posting but it did not go through.
Please check it out and let us know if your getting posts?

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


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From: Dan Krager 
Date: Mon, Dec 18, 2023 at 4:10 PM
Subject: Posting to LOM group
To: timjzieg...@gmail.com 


Here's what I try to post.  No error message, just blinks and doesn't post.
Merry Christmas, everyone!

It's been pretty quiet for wood projects using the mill, so here's a random
one completed today for no other reason than that it was there.The role of
the mill was to index the five flutes and establish the taper of the
flutes.  The rest was turned on wood lathe and carved detail touchup.
There is a hole to accommodate the 3 1/2" test tube so a live flower bud
could be displayed for a bit. Spalted apple wood.  Man, that stuff is HARD!
[image: image.jpeg]  [image: FlowerVase2.JPG]
DanK
DanK

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Re: Our archives and posting ...

['Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills]

 Also for this New members, here is a link to our old archives. 
https://ornamentalmills.com/turningaround/index.html  Just go to the photo and 
click on it to start reading some of the old topic.   Its a lot of fun, and I 
personally have used this for a good deal of info. or as+ a refresher for new 
ideas. (sorta like a spin-off, Something Old becomes, New again .)The New 
archives are not as easy to excise as the old one where ,(mainly due to the 
size and amount of info, in it.)But I hope the goal can still be used by 
others, who want to re-read or look up a topic that we have talked about in the 
past.  
I'm going to bed now, talk to you all more tomorrow.Have a good night.
C.A.G.
On Wednesday, April 12, 2023 at 12:40:43 AM EDT, 'Curt George' via Legacy 
Ornamental Mills  wrote:  
 
 
Greetings all,

 

Since we have had a number of  "newbies" (and lurkers) join in topical 
discussions here over the past several months, I think it worthwhile to remind 
everyone PLEASE keep any postings relative to the SUBJECT line topic.

 

We realize we all have things we want to ask about, contribute to The Group, 
etc. - but PLEASE make them relaitve to the SUBJECT at hand.

 

If some of the discussions set your creative juices flowing and you want to 
bring up an off-topic thought - feel free to do so when ever you want.  Just 
PLEASE start it by giving it a "SUBJECT" line that will best represent the meat 
of your input.

 

Our reason for asking this is that it will make it MUCH EASIER for a Group 
member to search back through The Group's archives to find previous discussions 
related to your topic.

 

Hopefully one of our Group members (Tim K., Mike P., or Curtis?) will chime in 
and further discuss our Archives, how to search through them, etc. - and the 
importance of the above request.

They will (hopefully) provide us with a hyperlink to the archives - making it 
easy for all of us to access them and conduct searches.

 

One other admin request:  When replying to a subject - please cut off all the 
"unnecessary stuff" relative to your reply/input - usually found towards the 
end of the email.  A good example being:  "You received this message because 
you are subscribed to the Google Groups ...". 

 

Thank you to all for your understanding and cooperation/assistance with this 
request.

 

Mac

Hello Mac.Thank you.  I should have posted this earlier myself.
One other note along these lines, Our archives, It makes things much easer to 
find things,if the topic are all in there proper areas. Once the topic has died 
down, trying to findsomething that someone  posted earlier is very hard to find 
in the archives if the topic bouncearound.  An Example. Mikes walking sticks.  
I think this is an AWESOME topic, One that everyoneshould read and talk about. 
but in a year form now How can you find it, if it was posted under another 
topic all together?So people Please try to either stay on topic when posting 
or, post your own topic as a new heading, It will make life much easer in the 
Long run for everyone.;-)Have a good night.
C.A.G



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Our archives and posting ...

['Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills]

Greetings all,

 

Since we have had a number of  "newbies" (and lurkers) join in topical 
discussions here over the past several months, I think it worthwhile to remind 
everyone PLEASE keep any postings relative to the SUBJECT line topic.

 

We realize we all have things we want to ask about, contribute to The Group, 
etc. - but PLEASE make them relaitve to the SUBJECT at hand.

 

If some of the discussions set your creative juices flowing and you want to 
bring up an off-topic thought - feel free to do so when ever you want.  Just 
PLEASE start it by giving it a "SUBJECT" line that will best represent the meat 
of your input.

 

Our reason for asking this is that it will make it MUCH EASIER for a Group 
member to search back through The Group's archives to find previous discussions 
related to your topic.

 

Hopefully one of our Group members (Tim K., Mike P., or Curtis?) will chime in 
and further discuss our Archives, how to search through them, etc. - and the 
importance of the above request.

They will (hopefully) provide us with a hyperlink to the archives - making it 
easy for all of us to access them and conduct searches.

 

One other admin request:  When replying to a subject - please cut off all the 
"unnecessary stuff" relative to your reply/input - usually found towards the 
end of the email.  A good example being:  "You received this message because 
you are subscribed to the Google Groups ...". 

 

Thank you to all for your understanding and cooperation/assistance with this 
request.

 

Mac

Hello Mac.Thank you.  I should have posted this earlier myself.
One other note along these lines, Our archives, It makes things much easer to 
find things,if the topic are all in there proper areas. Once the topic has died 
down, trying to findsomething that someone  posted earlier is very hard to find 
in the archives if the topic bouncearound.  An Example. Mikes walking sticks.  
I think this is an AWESOME topic, One that everyoneshould read and talk about. 
but in a year form now How can you find it, if it was posted under another 
topic all together?So people Please try to either stay on topic when posting 
or, post your own topic as a new heading, It will make life much easer in the 
Long run for everyone.;-)Have a good night.
C.A.G

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Re: Face Book Marketplace posting of a 8ft. Legacy LOM

[Tim Ziegler]

lol for sure right.
Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Thu, Dec 3, 2020 at 2:00 AM M.W.Foscue  wrote:

> Mark Suckerberg must have you "flagged" as a conservative!
> LoL!  Big Tech is SCAREY!!
> Mac
> --
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Tim Ziegler
> Sent: Nov 30, 2020 4:34 PM
> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Face Book Marketplace posting of a 8ft. Legacy LOM
>
> I'm currently having all kinds of FaceBook problems on computer but can
> get in on my phone.
> So something must be blocked h
> Kind Regards,
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 30, 2020 at 1:58 PM Ray Leaman  wrote:
>
>> Yes.  Got right in.
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 30, 2020 at 1:58 PM Tim Ziegler 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> let me know Ray if FaceBook let you on or not.
>>> Kind Regards,
>>>
>>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>>> 14171 160th Ave.
>>> Foreston MN 56330
>>>
>>> 320-294-5798 shop
>>> 320-630-2243 cell
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Nov 30, 2020 at 11:42 AM Ray Leaman  wrote:
>>>
>>>> Curtain Pole Rods?!? I'd not think of that on such a mill.  The length
>>>> makes sense.  The customer is always right.  They must be commercial
>>>> enterprises to need poles that long.
>>>>
>>>> I've added your facebook site to my desktop.  While I have seen some of
>>>> the pics before I'm much interested in your upgrades.  I'm assuming your
>>>> chain and sprocket router tower revolves around the CNC Upgrade?
>>>>
>>>> RFay
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Nov 30, 2020 at 11:39 AM 'joe biunno' via Legacy Ornamental
>>>> Mills  wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> hey to Mac, Ray and the rest in Legacy land... haven't posted to the
>>>>> group because not much to post as far as what I might be doing with my
>>>>> machine and dealing with complications on the general business end of what
>>>>> we do... but, if anyone wants to see photos of my modified Legacy, they 
>>>>> can
>>>>> check it out on my Legacy facebook page... here is the link  Legacy
>>>>> ornamental mill | Facebook
>>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/legacyornamentalmill>  ... and here are
>>>>> some questions answered... why that long of a machine?... curtain 
>>>>> poles!...
>>>>> mostly twisted designs(fluted, reeded, harlequin, etc.)... we can do
>>>>> straight work on our expanded shaper, but the Legacy can do those easily 
>>>>> as
>>>>> well... sometimes the lengths are 12 feet, occasionally longer... and the
>>>>> customers do not want a pole that is comprised of a number of pieces, i.e.
>>>>> no joints... why 15 1/2 feet then?... I purchased used, an 1800 and then a
>>>>> 1500, and when laying out combining the two, it did not make sense to cut
>>>>> down the 1500 to achieve a 12 foot center-to-center, so I just combined 
>>>>> the
>>>>> two full machines and got the 15 1/2 foot length... at first I only
>>>>> lengthened the machine... then, for reasons I still can't remember, I
>>>>> decided to enlarge the diameter capacity... why?, because it seemed the
>>>>> logical thing to do and from a technical standpoint, not that difficult to
>>>>> achieve... and it was fun!, LOL!... have yet to do a column, as we are not
>>>>> known for doing columns and there are specialists who do column work... 
>>>>> and
>>>>> Mac, thanks for asking if I'm still around, LOL!... had my fair share of
>>>>> economic challenges, as most of us have had, but I'm focused on surviving
>>>>> economically with no time to "play" with my machine... but I do follow the
>>>>> group, always... Joe B.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thursday, November 26, 2020 at 4:51:27 PM UTC-5 vie...@gmail.com
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks.  No, I didn't see his posts.  Still wondering what you do
>>>>>> with that beast other than huge columns,
>>>>>>
>>>

Re: Face Book Marketplace posting of a 8ft. Legacy LOM

[M.W.Foscue]

Mark Suckerberg must have you "flagged" as a conservative!LoL!  Big Tech is SCAREY!!Mac-Original Message-
From: Tim Ziegler 
Sent: Nov 30, 2020 4:34 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Face Book Marketplace posting of a 8ft. Legacy LOM

I'm currently having all kinds of FaceBook problems on computer but can get in on my phone. So something must be blocked hKind Regards,Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & Specialty14171 160th Ave.Foreston MN 56330320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cellOn Mon, Nov 30, 2020 at 1:58 PM Ray Leaman <view...@gmail.com> wrote:Yes.  Got right in. On Mon, Nov 30, 2020 at 1:58 PM Tim Ziegler <timjzieg...@gmail.com> wrote:let me know Ray if FaceBook let you on or not. Kind Regards,Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & Specialty14171 160th Ave.Foreston MN 56330320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cellOn Mon, Nov 30, 2020 at 11:42 AM Ray Leaman <view...@gmail.com> wrote:Curtain Pole Rods?!? I'd not think of that on such a mill.  The length makes sense.  The customer is always right.  They must be commercial enterprises to need poles that long.I've added your facebook site to my desktop.  While I have seen some of the pics before I'm much interested in your upgrades.  I'm assuming your chain and sprocket router tower revolves around the CNC Upgrade?RFay On Mon, Nov 30, 2020 at 11:39 AM 'joe biunno' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:hey to Mac, Ray and the rest in Legacy land... haven't posted to the group because not much to post as far as what I might be doing with my machine and dealing with complications on the general business end of what we do... but, if anyone wants to see photos of my modified Legacy, they can check it out on my Legacy facebook page... here is the link 

Legacy ornamental mill | Facebook  ... and here are some questions answered... why that long of a machine?... curtain poles!... mostly twisted designs(fluted, reeded, harlequin, etc.)... we can do straight work on our expanded shaper, but the Legacy can do those easily as well... sometimes the lengths are 12 feet, occasionally longer... and the customers do not want a pole that is comprised of a number of pieces, i.e. no joints... why 15 1/2 feet then?... I purchased used, an 1800 and then a 1500, and when laying out combining the two, it did not make sense to cut down the 1500 to achieve a 12 foot center-to-center, so I just combined the two full machines and got the 15 1/2 foot length... at first I only lengthened the machine... then, for reasons I still can't remember, I decided to enlarge the diameter capacity... why?, because it seemed the logical thing to do and from a technical standpoint, not that difficult to achieve... and it was fun!, LOL!... have yet to do a column, as we are not known for doing columns and there are specialists who do column work... and Mac, thanks for asking if I'm still around, LOL!... had my fair share of economic challenges, as most of us have had, but I'm focused on surviving economically with no time to "play" with my machine... but I do follow the group, always... Joe B.On Thursday, November 26, 2020 at 4:51:27 PM UTC-5 vie...@gmail.com wrote:Thanks.  No, I didn't see his posts.  Still wondering what you do with that beast other than huge columns,By the way some of those capitol columns now reside at the US National Arboretum off New York Avenue in Wash., DC.. My old agency manages the Aboretum and when they were moved I was able to pick up a chunk left over from them being fitted into their new home. Use it as a point of interest in my garden.On Thu, Nov 26, 2020 at 3:25 PM M.W.Foscue <mwfo...@earthlink.net> wrote:Ray,Apparently you did not see the postings here by NY Joe (Biuno).  He built the King Kong of LOM's a couple years ago.I think he was hoping to get a contract to replace those big columns on "The White House" with it.If we are lucky, Joe will see this and post a photo or two of his creation.Buy the way - I think someone posted here, about 2 days after it was first shared here, that the listing was gone.  I guess the assumption is that it was sold.Yes - it would be nice to know if a member of The Group bought it.  (Joe - was it you?)Happy Thanksgiving.Mac-Original Message-
From: Ray Leaman 
Sent: Nov 26, 2020 2:43 PM
To: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Face Book Marketplace posting of a 8ft. Legacy LOM

I lost track of this auction and it was closed by the time I wanted to check back.Did anyone on here buy it?  I'm wondering what someone would do with such a large machine.  I get columns and all but would it be an all around user or more of a specialty mill.RayOn Thu, Nov 19, 2020 at 10:56 PM Tim Ziegler <timjz...@gmail.com> wrote:Yea better start ckg in with people for sure. Kind Regards,Timothy J. ZieglerOn Thu, Nov 19, 2020 at 6:51

Re: Face Book Marketplace posting of a 8ft. Legacy LOM

[Ray Leaman]

Joe,

Been going thru your facebook page for the past couple of hours.  Your shop
(or shops if you will) is/are amazing.  Spent most of the time perusing
your legacy ornamental  mill posts and comments. As others here have, that
mill (actually two mills) of yours is as amazing as billed.  I see what you
meant by building a box support for a mill.  The three 8' sliding box
sections for your 16' mill look strong.  A wealth of information for
ornamental mill owners.
Just started to look at the Finials Unlimited section of your business as I
was about to leave the site.  Again amazing.  The history of your gathering
some of these items from other crafts men/women(?) over the years needs to
be preserved somehow. It looks like a lot of articles have been written on
your business over the years but some of your stuff belongs in the
Metropolitan Art Museum in the furniture curated section or somewhere.
Really.
I will be going back to your site again and again. Too much to take in in
one sitting.  Thanks.

Ray

On Mon, Nov 30, 2020 at 5:46 PM 'joe biunno' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> click on the link, then the actual link will appear, and then click on
> that... Joe B.
>
>
> (1) Legacy ornamental mill | Facebook
> <https://www.facebook.com/legacyornamentalmill>
> (2) Finials Unlimited | Facebook
> <https://www.facebook.com/Finials-Unlimited-202845983134202>
> On Monday, November 30, 2020 at 1:56:02 PM UTC-5 timjz...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Hey Mac, Joe<
>>
>> I can not get that link to work. Could you get it to open?
>>
>> Kind Regards,
>>
>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>> 14171 160th Ave.
>> Foreston MN 56330
>>
>> 320-294-5798 <(320)%20294-5798> shop
>> 320-630-2243 <(320)%20630-2243> cell
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 30, 2020 at 11:18 AM M.W.Foscue 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Joe,
>>> Great hearing from you.  Was getting concerned - since you live smack in
>>> the middle of  "Virus Land".
>>> Hang in there - your business will pick back up.
>>> Thanks for explaining the background info on your "King Kong" Mill!
>>> I'm sure a lot of the new folks have no idea about its existence.
>>> Can't let THAT go unmentioned!
>>> Be Safe & Stay Healthy!
>>> Mac
>>> --
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: 'joe biunno' via Legacy Ornamental Mills
>>> Sent: Nov 30, 2020 11:39 AM
>>> To: Legacy Ornamental Mills
>>> Subject: Re: Face Book Marketplace posting of a 8ft. Legacy LOM
>>>
>>> hey to Mac, Ray and the rest in Legacy land... haven't posted to the
>>> group because not much to post as far as what I might be doing with my
>>> machine and dealing with complications on the general business end of what
>>> we do... but, if anyone wants to see photos of my modified Legacy, they can
>>> check it out on my Legacy facebook page... here is the link  Legacy
>>> ornamental mill | Facebook
>>> <https://www.facebook.com/legacyornamentalmill>  ... and here are some
>>> questions answered... why that long of a machine?... curtain poles!...
>>> mostly twisted designs(fluted, reeded, harlequin, etc.)... we can do
>>> straight work on our expanded shaper, but the Legacy can do those easily as
>>> well... sometimes the lengths are 12 feet, occasionally longer... and the
>>> customers do not want a pole that is comprised of a number of pieces, i.e.
>>> no joints... why 15 1/2 feet then?... I purchased used, an 1800 and then a
>>> 1500, and when laying out combining the two, it did not make sense to cut
>>> down the 1500 to achieve a 12 foot center-to-center, so I just combined the
>>> two full machines and got the 15 1/2 foot length... at first I only
>>> lengthened the machine... then, for reasons I still can't remember, I
>>> decided to enlarge the diameter capacity... why?, because it seemed the
>>> logical thing to do and from a technical standpoint, not that difficult to
>>> achieve... and it was fun!, LOL!... have yet to do a column, as we are not
>>> known for doing columns and there are specialists who do column work... and
>>> Mac, thanks for asking if I'm still around, LOL!... had my fair share of
>>> economic challenges, as most of us have had, but I'm focused on surviving
>>> economically with no time to "play" with my machine... but I do follow the
>>> group, always... Joe B.
>>>
>

Re: Face Book Marketplace posting of a 8ft. Legacy LOM

[Tim Ziegler]

wow worked on this computer in shop nice
Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Mon, Nov 30, 2020 at 4:46 PM 'joe biunno' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> click on the link, then the actual link will appear, and then click on
> that... Joe B.
>
>
> (1) Legacy ornamental mill | Facebook
> <https://www.facebook.com/legacyornamentalmill>
> (2) Finials Unlimited | Facebook
> <https://www.facebook.com/Finials-Unlimited-202845983134202>
> On Monday, November 30, 2020 at 1:56:02 PM UTC-5 timjz...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Hey Mac, Joe<
>>
>> I can not get that link to work. Could you get it to open?
>>
>> Kind Regards,
>>
>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>> 14171 160th Ave.
>> Foreston MN 56330
>>
>> 320-294-5798 <(320)%20294-5798> shop
>> 320-630-2243 <(320)%20630-2243> cell
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 30, 2020 at 11:18 AM M.W.Foscue 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Joe,
>>> Great hearing from you.  Was getting concerned - since you live smack in
>>> the middle of  "Virus Land".
>>> Hang in there - your business will pick back up.
>>> Thanks for explaining the background info on your "King Kong" Mill!
>>> I'm sure a lot of the new folks have no idea about its existence.
>>> Can't let THAT go unmentioned!
>>> Be Safe & Stay Healthy!
>>> Mac
>>> --
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: 'joe biunno' via Legacy Ornamental Mills
>>> Sent: Nov 30, 2020 11:39 AM
>>> To: Legacy Ornamental Mills
>>> Subject: Re: Face Book Marketplace posting of a 8ft. Legacy LOM
>>>
>>> hey to Mac, Ray and the rest in Legacy land... haven't posted to the
>>> group because not much to post as far as what I might be doing with my
>>> machine and dealing with complications on the general business end of what
>>> we do... but, if anyone wants to see photos of my modified Legacy, they can
>>> check it out on my Legacy facebook page... here is the link  Legacy
>>> ornamental mill | Facebook
>>> <https://www.facebook.com/legacyornamentalmill>  ... and here are some
>>> questions answered... why that long of a machine?... curtain poles!...
>>> mostly twisted designs(fluted, reeded, harlequin, etc.)... we can do
>>> straight work on our expanded shaper, but the Legacy can do those easily as
>>> well... sometimes the lengths are 12 feet, occasionally longer... and the
>>> customers do not want a pole that is comprised of a number of pieces, i.e.
>>> no joints... why 15 1/2 feet then?... I purchased used, an 1800 and then a
>>> 1500, and when laying out combining the two, it did not make sense to cut
>>> down the 1500 to achieve a 12 foot center-to-center, so I just combined the
>>> two full machines and got the 15 1/2 foot length... at first I only
>>> lengthened the machine... then, for reasons I still can't remember, I
>>> decided to enlarge the diameter capacity... why?, because it seemed the
>>> logical thing to do and from a technical standpoint, not that difficult to
>>> achieve... and it was fun!, LOL!... have yet to do a column, as we are not
>>> known for doing columns and there are specialists who do column work... and
>>> Mac, thanks for asking if I'm still around, LOL!... had my fair share of
>>> economic challenges, as most of us have had, but I'm focused on surviving
>>> economically with no time to "play" with my machine... but I do follow the
>>> group, always... Joe B.
>>>
>>> On Thursday, November 26, 2020 at 4:51:27 PM UTC-5 vie...@gmail.com
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thanks.  No, I didn't see his posts.  Still wondering what you do with
>>>> that beast other than huge columns,
>>>>
>>>> By the way some of those capitol columns now reside at the US National
>>>> Arboretum off New York Avenue in Wash., DC.. My old agency manages the
>>>> Aboretum and when they were moved I was able to pick up a chunk left over
>>>> from them being fitted into their new home. Use it as a point of interest
>>>> in my garden.
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Nov 26, 2020 at 3:25 PM M.W.Foscue 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Ray,
>>>>> Apparently you d

Re: Face Book Marketplace posting of a 8ft. Legacy LOM

[Tim Ziegler]

yea I tried everything.
I have a business face  book and have more problems then its worth
some times.
Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Mon, Nov 30, 2020 at 4:46 PM 'joe biunno' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> click on the link, then the actual link will appear, and then click on
> that... Joe B.
>
>
> (1) Legacy ornamental mill | Facebook
> <https://www.facebook.com/legacyornamentalmill>
> (2) Finials Unlimited | Facebook
> <https://www.facebook.com/Finials-Unlimited-202845983134202>
> On Monday, November 30, 2020 at 1:56:02 PM UTC-5 timjz...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Hey Mac, Joe<
>>
>> I can not get that link to work. Could you get it to open?
>>
>> Kind Regards,
>>
>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>> 14171 160th Ave.
>> Foreston MN 56330
>>
>> 320-294-5798 <(320)%20294-5798> shop
>> 320-630-2243 <(320)%20630-2243> cell
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 30, 2020 at 11:18 AM M.W.Foscue 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Joe,
>>> Great hearing from you.  Was getting concerned - since you live smack in
>>> the middle of  "Virus Land".
>>> Hang in there - your business will pick back up.
>>> Thanks for explaining the background info on your "King Kong" Mill!
>>> I'm sure a lot of the new folks have no idea about its existence.
>>> Can't let THAT go unmentioned!
>>> Be Safe & Stay Healthy!
>>> Mac
>>> --
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: 'joe biunno' via Legacy Ornamental Mills
>>> Sent: Nov 30, 2020 11:39 AM
>>> To: Legacy Ornamental Mills
>>> Subject: Re: Face Book Marketplace posting of a 8ft. Legacy LOM
>>>
>>> hey to Mac, Ray and the rest in Legacy land... haven't posted to the
>>> group because not much to post as far as what I might be doing with my
>>> machine and dealing with complications on the general business end of what
>>> we do... but, if anyone wants to see photos of my modified Legacy, they can
>>> check it out on my Legacy facebook page... here is the link  Legacy
>>> ornamental mill | Facebook
>>> <https://www.facebook.com/legacyornamentalmill>  ... and here are some
>>> questions answered... why that long of a machine?... curtain poles!...
>>> mostly twisted designs(fluted, reeded, harlequin, etc.)... we can do
>>> straight work on our expanded shaper, but the Legacy can do those easily as
>>> well... sometimes the lengths are 12 feet, occasionally longer... and the
>>> customers do not want a pole that is comprised of a number of pieces, i.e.
>>> no joints... why 15 1/2 feet then?... I purchased used, an 1800 and then a
>>> 1500, and when laying out combining the two, it did not make sense to cut
>>> down the 1500 to achieve a 12 foot center-to-center, so I just combined the
>>> two full machines and got the 15 1/2 foot length... at first I only
>>> lengthened the machine... then, for reasons I still can't remember, I
>>> decided to enlarge the diameter capacity... why?, because it seemed the
>>> logical thing to do and from a technical standpoint, not that difficult to
>>> achieve... and it was fun!, LOL!... have yet to do a column, as we are not
>>> known for doing columns and there are specialists who do column work... and
>>> Mac, thanks for asking if I'm still around, LOL!... had my fair share of
>>> economic challenges, as most of us have had, but I'm focused on surviving
>>> economically with no time to "play" with my machine... but I do follow the
>>> group, always... Joe B.
>>>
>>> On Thursday, November 26, 2020 at 4:51:27 PM UTC-5 vie...@gmail.com
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thanks.  No, I didn't see his posts.  Still wondering what you do with
>>>> that beast other than huge columns,
>>>>
>>>> By the way some of those capitol columns now reside at the US National
>>>> Arboretum off New York Avenue in Wash., DC.. My old agency manages the
>>>> Aboretum and when they were moved I was able to pick up a chunk left over
>>>> from them being fitted into their new home. Use it as a point of interest
>>>> in my garden.
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Nov 26, 2020 at 3:25 PM M.W.Foscue 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>&

Re: Face Book Marketplace posting of a 8ft. Legacy LOM

['joe biunno' via Legacy Ornamental Mills]

click on the link, then the actual link will appear, and then click on 
that... Joe B.


(1) Legacy ornamental mill | Facebook 
<https://www.facebook.com/legacyornamentalmill>  
(2) Finials Unlimited | Facebook 
<https://www.facebook.com/Finials-Unlimited-202845983134202>  
On Monday, November 30, 2020 at 1:56:02 PM UTC-5 timjz...@gmail.com wrote:

> Hey Mac, Joe<
>
> I can not get that link to work. Could you get it to open?
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
>
> 320-294-5798 <(320)%20294-5798> shop
> 320-630-2243 <(320)%20630-2243> cell
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 30, 2020 at 11:18 AM M.W.Foscue  wrote:
>
>> Joe,
>> Great hearing from you.  Was getting concerned - since you live smack in 
>> the middle of  "Virus Land". 
>> Hang in there - your business will pick back up.
>> Thanks for explaining the background info on your "King Kong" Mill!  
>> I'm sure a lot of the new folks have no idea about its existence.
>> Can't let THAT go unmentioned!  
>> Be Safe & Stay Healthy!
>> Mac
>> --
>>
>> -Original Message- 
>> From: 'joe biunno' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
>> Sent: Nov 30, 2020 11:39 AM 
>> To: Legacy Ornamental Mills 
>> Subject: Re: Face Book Marketplace posting of a 8ft. Legacy LOM 
>>
>> hey to Mac, Ray and the rest in Legacy land... haven't posted to the 
>> group because not much to post as far as what I might be doing with my 
>> machine and dealing with complications on the general business end of what 
>> we do... but, if anyone wants to see photos of my modified Legacy, they can 
>> check it out on my Legacy facebook page... here is the link  Legacy 
>> ornamental mill | Facebook 
>> <https://www.facebook.com/legacyornamentalmill>  ... and here are some 
>> questions answered... why that long of a machine?... curtain poles!... 
>> mostly twisted designs(fluted, reeded, harlequin, etc.)... we can do 
>> straight work on our expanded shaper, but the Legacy can do those easily as 
>> well... sometimes the lengths are 12 feet, occasionally longer... and the 
>> customers do not want a pole that is comprised of a number of pieces, i.e. 
>> no joints... why 15 1/2 feet then?... I purchased used, an 1800 and then a 
>> 1500, and when laying out combining the two, it did not make sense to cut 
>> down the 1500 to achieve a 12 foot center-to-center, so I just combined the 
>> two full machines and got the 15 1/2 foot length... at first I only 
>> lengthened the machine... then, for reasons I still can't remember, I 
>> decided to enlarge the diameter capacity... why?, because it seemed the 
>> logical thing to do and from a technical standpoint, not that difficult to 
>> achieve... and it was fun!, LOL!... have yet to do a column, as we are not 
>> known for doing columns and there are specialists who do column work... and 
>> Mac, thanks for asking if I'm still around, LOL!... had my fair share of 
>> economic challenges, as most of us have had, but I'm focused on surviving 
>> economically with no time to "play" with my machine... but I do follow the 
>> group, always... Joe B.
>>
>> On Thursday, November 26, 2020 at 4:51:27 PM UTC-5 vie...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks.  No, I didn't see his posts.  Still wondering what you do with 
>>> that beast other than huge columns,
>>>
>>> By the way some of those capitol columns now reside at the US National 
>>> Arboretum off New York Avenue in Wash., DC.. My old agency manages the 
>>> Aboretum and when they were moved I was able to pick up a chunk left over 
>>> from them being fitted into their new home. Use it as a point of interest 
>>> in my garden.
>>>
>>> On Thu, Nov 26, 2020 at 3:25 PM M.W.Foscue  
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Ray,
>>>> Apparently you did not see the postings here by NY Joe (Biuno).  He 
>>>> built the King Kong of LOM's a couple years ago.
>>>> I think he was hoping to get a contract to replace those big columns on 
>>>> "The White House" with it.
>>>> If we are lucky, Joe will see this and post a photo or two of his 
>>>> creation.
>>>>
>>>> Buy the way - I think someone posted here, about 2 days after it was 
>>>> first shared here, that the listing was gone.  I guess the assumption is 
>>>> that it was 

Re: Face Book Marketplace posting of a 8ft. Legacy LOM

[Tim Ziegler]

Mac did you see my last pic's I sent out?
Also the other email?
Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Mon, Nov 30, 2020 at 4:12 PM M.W.Foscue  wrote:

> Some nice looking rods you've got there Joe.
> Thanks for sharing the photo of them.
> Mac
> --
>
> -Original Message-
> From: 'joe biunno' via Legacy Ornamental Mills
> Sent: Nov 30, 2020 2:20 PM
> To: Legacy Ornamental Mills
> Subject: Re: Face Book Marketplace posting of a 8ft. Legacy LOM
>
> [image: catalog page poles.jpg]
> hey Ray... here's a page from our first catalog we did back in the late
> 80's showing a selection of curtain pole styles... note the harlequinn in
> the center(#712)... all can be done on a legacy-type machine...the tree
> branch(#721) was a hand carved specialty... and the length is quite often
> used in residential homes in places in the south and midwest(Texas! has
> some huge homes with huge rooms!... LOL!)...  in regards to the roller
> chain setup, there is no CNC setup on my machine... it is strictly a
> manually operated machine... I felt the roller chain and counter weight was
> necessary because the router mount  with the rotary/tilt table was
> beginning to weigh a good amount... and even though the Z axis was on
> linear bearings and several thrust bearings were installed, it still took a
> lot to crank the crank the handle to raise and lower the router assembly...
> add to that I have a drill press attachment and a hollow chisel attachment
> that can easily be swapped out with the router, but due to the projection
> of each piece,  the laws of physics really put a strain on the Z axis tower
> assembly... so the counter balance setup was necessary... it is adjustable
> by adding or removing metal bars on the backside... good news was that,
> once balanced, it was so light to the touch, that I can consider doing
> template work with a router bit in the 12 o'clock position and the router
> going up and down when following a template... bad news was that I had to
> put in a way to lock the Z axis travel as any small vibration would turn
> the hand crank wheel!... LOL!... an easy fix but a bit of a PITA to work
> with... anyway, check out the facebook page and if there are any questions,
> please ask... also, I do have the Legacy CNC upgrade kit, as originally
> sold by Legacy(it came with the used 1800 I purchased), but was never
> installed(still in its original packing)... I myself do not understand the
> programming aspect of using the CNC and I certainly would not expect any of
> my men could operate the CNC... thus the reason to keep the machine in its
> manual mode... are you setting up your Legacy with CNC equipment?...
> regards... Joe B.
>
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Re: Face Book Marketplace posting of a 8ft. Legacy LOM

[M.W.Foscue]

Some nice looking rods you've got there Joe.Thanks for sharing the photo of them.Mac-Original Message-
From: 'joe biunno' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
Sent: Nov 30, 2020 2:20 PM
To: Legacy Ornamental Mills 
Subject: Re: Face Book Marketplace posting of a 8ft. Legacy LOM

hey Ray... here's a page from our first catalog we did back in the late 80's showing a selection of curtain pole styles... note the harlequinn in the center(#712)... all can be done on a legacy-type machine...the tree branch(#721) was a hand carved specialty... and the length is quite often used in residential homes in places in the south and midwest(Texas! has some huge homes with huge rooms!... LOL!)...  in regards to the roller chain setup, there is no CNC setup on my machine... it is strictly a manually operated machine... I felt the roller chain and counter weight was necessary because the router mount  with the rotary/tilt table was beginning to weigh a good amount... and even though the Z axis was on linear bearings and several thrust bearings were installed, it still took a lot to crank the crank the handle to raise and lower the router assembly... add to that I have a drill press attachment and a hollow chisel attachment that can easily be swapped out with the router, but due to the projection of each piece,  the laws of physics really put a strain on the Z axis tower assembly... so the counter balance setup was necessary... it is adjustable by adding or removing metal bars on the backside... good news was that, once balanced, it was so light to the touch, that I can consider doing template work with a router bit in the 12 o'clock position and the router going up and down when following a template... bad news was that I had to put in a way to lock the Z axis travel as any small vibration would turn the hand crank wheel!... LOL!... an easy fix but a bit of a PITA to work with... anyway, check out the facebook page and if there are any questions, please ask... also, I do have the Legacy CNC upgrade kit, as originally sold by Legacy(it came with the used 1800 I purchased), but was never installed(still in its original packing)... I myself do not understand the programming aspect of using the CNC and I certainly would not expect any of my men could operate the CNC... thus the reason to keep the machine in its manual mode... are you setting up your Legacy with CNC equipment?... regards... Joe B.






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Re: Face Book Marketplace posting of a 8ft. Legacy LOM

['joe biunno' via Legacy Ornamental Mills]

I was understanding that the "standard" Legacy CNC upgrade package had 
servo motors that were connected directly to the Acme lead screws on the 
X,Y and Z axis and the headstock... the "performance" package was a rack 
and pinion setup that basically replaced the acme screws on the X and Y 
axis, while the Z axis remained on its acme threaded rod... the problem was 
that being hooked up the acme rods wasn't quite fast enough to suit a CNC 
user's speed requirements... the rack and pinion made a big enough 
difference to warrant the switch... especially if you had an 1800 or larger 
Legacy machine... Joe B.

On Monday, November 30, 2020 at 3:43:44 PM UTC-5 Tracy Smith wrote:

> If you search for "Legacy Performance CNC Upgrade" on google, this first 
> link should point you to the assembly manual.  
>
> I found a bit more information about the CNC upgrades here: 
> http://benchmark.20m.com/tools/LegacyMill/LegacyOptions/Legacy_Options.html
> .
>
> Thanks,
> Tracy
>
> On Mon, Nov 30, 2020 at 1:31 PM Ray Leaman  wrote:
>
>> Where could one find out more about these packages.  I'd like to know 
>> just what they are but haven't run across anything that even mentioned 
>> there was more than one option.
>>
>> Thanks for pointing this out  Tracy.
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 30, 2020 at 3:23 PM Tracy Smith  wrote:
>>
>>> FYI, there were two CNC upgrade packages. I think one was called 
>>> "Standard" and the other is called Performance. I think the biggest 
>>> difference is Performance moves at a higher rate of speed but I don't 
>>> remember for sure.
>>>
>>> Tracy
>>>
>>> On Mon, Nov 30, 2020 at 1:11 PM Ray Leaman  wrote:
>>>
 Those are some really neat curtain poles.  I say poles and not rods!

 I'll certainly study your facebook entries. And, I'll want to know more 
 about the interchangeability of your drill press and mortising setups.

 You sometimes can make (I know I have) more problems with what was a 
 great solution,  The easy glide with a soft touch leading to the need to 
 attend to the side effect of the glidability Z - axis.  Sounds like a good 
 problem to have as it was not a hard fix.

 Yes, I am going to go the CNC route provided I can find all the parts 
 to do it.  Are you saying you have the original CNC Upgrade Kit still in 
 the packing?  Would you be interested in selling it?  If so let's talk.  
 I'd be interested. Maybe send me an email with the particulars and a 
 picture or two and we can go from there.

 Ray


 On Mon, Nov 30, 2020 at 2:20 PM 'joe biunno' via Legacy Ornamental 
 Mills  wrote:

> [image: catalog page poles.jpg]
> hey Ray... here's a page from our first catalog we did back in the 
> late 80's showing a selection of curtain pole styles... note the 
> harlequinn 
> in the center(#712)... all can be done on a legacy-type machine...the 
> tree 
> branch(#721) was a hand carved specialty... and the length is quite often 
> used in residential homes in places in the south and midwest(Texas! has 
> some huge homes with huge rooms!... LOL!)...  in regards to the roller 
> chain setup, there is no CNC setup on my machine... it is strictly a 
> manually operated machine... I felt the roller chain and counter weight 
> was 
> necessary because the router mount  with the rotary/tilt table was 
> beginning to weigh a good amount... and even though the Z axis was on 
> linear bearings and several thrust bearings were installed, it still took 
> a 
> lot to crank the crank the handle to raise and lower the router 
> assembly... 
> add to that I have a drill press attachment and a hollow chisel 
> attachment 
> that can easily be swapped out with the router, but due to the projection 
> of each piece,  the laws of physics really put a strain on the Z axis 
> tower 
> assembly... so the counter balance setup was necessary... it is 
> adjustable 
> by adding or removing metal bars on the backside... good news was that, 
> once balanced, it was so light to the touch, that I can consider doing 
> template work with a router bit in the 12 o'clock position and the router 
> going up and down when following a template... bad news was that I had to 
> put in a way to lock the Z axis travel as any small vibration would turn 
> the hand crank wheel!... LOL!... an easy fix but a bit of a PITA to work 
> with... anyway, check out the facebook page and if there are any 
> questions, 
> please ask... also, I do have the Legacy CNC upgrade kit, as originally 
> sold by Legacy(it came with the used 1800 I purchased), but was never 
> installed(still in its original packing)... I myself do not understand 
> the 
> programming aspect of using the CNC and I certainly would not expect any 
> of 
> my men could operate the CNC... thus the reason to keep the machine in 

Re: Face Book Marketplace posting of a 8ft. Legacy LOM

[Tim Ziegler]

I'm currently having all kinds of FaceBook problems on computer but can get
in on my phone.
So something must be blocked h
Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Mon, Nov 30, 2020 at 1:58 PM Ray Leaman  wrote:

> Yes.  Got right in.
>
> On Mon, Nov 30, 2020 at 1:58 PM Tim Ziegler  wrote:
>
>> let me know Ray if FaceBook let you on or not.
>> Kind Regards,
>>
>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>> 14171 160th Ave.
>> Foreston MN 56330
>>
>> 320-294-5798 shop
>> 320-630-2243 cell
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 30, 2020 at 11:42 AM Ray Leaman  wrote:
>>
>>> Curtain Pole Rods?!? I'd not think of that on such a mill.  The length
>>> makes sense.  The customer is always right.  They must be commercial
>>> enterprises to need poles that long.
>>>
>>> I've added your facebook site to my desktop.  While I have seen some of
>>> the pics before I'm much interested in your upgrades.  I'm assuming your
>>> chain and sprocket router tower revolves around the CNC Upgrade?
>>>
>>> RFay
>>>
>>> On Mon, Nov 30, 2020 at 11:39 AM 'joe biunno' via Legacy Ornamental
>>> Mills  wrote:
>>>
>>>> hey to Mac, Ray and the rest in Legacy land... haven't posted to the
>>>> group because not much to post as far as what I might be doing with my
>>>> machine and dealing with complications on the general business end of what
>>>> we do... but, if anyone wants to see photos of my modified Legacy, they can
>>>> check it out on my Legacy facebook page... here is the link  Legacy
>>>> ornamental mill | Facebook
>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/legacyornamentalmill>  ... and here are some
>>>> questions answered... why that long of a machine?... curtain poles!...
>>>> mostly twisted designs(fluted, reeded, harlequin, etc.)... we can do
>>>> straight work on our expanded shaper, but the Legacy can do those easily as
>>>> well... sometimes the lengths are 12 feet, occasionally longer... and the
>>>> customers do not want a pole that is comprised of a number of pieces, i.e.
>>>> no joints... why 15 1/2 feet then?... I purchased used, an 1800 and then a
>>>> 1500, and when laying out combining the two, it did not make sense to cut
>>>> down the 1500 to achieve a 12 foot center-to-center, so I just combined the
>>>> two full machines and got the 15 1/2 foot length... at first I only
>>>> lengthened the machine... then, for reasons I still can't remember, I
>>>> decided to enlarge the diameter capacity... why?, because it seemed the
>>>> logical thing to do and from a technical standpoint, not that difficult to
>>>> achieve... and it was fun!, LOL!... have yet to do a column, as we are not
>>>> known for doing columns and there are specialists who do column work... and
>>>> Mac, thanks for asking if I'm still around, LOL!... had my fair share of
>>>> economic challenges, as most of us have had, but I'm focused on surviving
>>>> economically with no time to "play" with my machine... but I do follow the
>>>> group, always... Joe B.
>>>>
>>>> On Thursday, November 26, 2020 at 4:51:27 PM UTC-5 vie...@gmail.com
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Thanks.  No, I didn't see his posts.  Still wondering what you do with
>>>>> that beast other than huge columns,
>>>>>
>>>>> By the way some of those capitol columns now reside at the US National
>>>>> Arboretum off New York Avenue in Wash., DC.. My old agency manages the
>>>>> Aboretum and when they were moved I was able to pick up a chunk left over
>>>>> from them being fitted into their new home. Use it as a point of interest
>>>>> in my garden.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Nov 26, 2020 at 3:25 PM M.W.Foscue 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Ray,
>>>>>> Apparently you did not see the postings here by NY Joe (Biuno).  He
>>>>>> built the King Kong of LOM's a couple years ago.
>>>>>> I think he was hoping to get a contract to replace those big columns
>>>>>> on "The White House" with it.
>>>>>> If we are lucky, Joe will see this and post a photo or 

Re: Face Book Marketplace posting of a 8ft. Legacy LOM

[Ray Leaman]

Yes.  Got right in.

On Mon, Nov 30, 2020 at 1:58 PM Tim Ziegler  wrote:

> let me know Ray if FaceBook let you on or not.
> Kind Regards,
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 30, 2020 at 11:42 AM Ray Leaman  wrote:
>
>> Curtain Pole Rods?!? I'd not think of that on such a mill.  The length
>> makes sense.  The customer is always right.  They must be commercial
>> enterprises to need poles that long.
>>
>> I've added your facebook site to my desktop.  While I have seen some of
>> the pics before I'm much interested in your upgrades.  I'm assuming your
>> chain and sprocket router tower revolves around the CNC Upgrade?
>>
>> RFay
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 30, 2020 at 11:39 AM 'joe biunno' via Legacy Ornamental Mills
>>  wrote:
>>
>>> hey to Mac, Ray and the rest in Legacy land... haven't posted to the
>>> group because not much to post as far as what I might be doing with my
>>> machine and dealing with complications on the general business end of what
>>> we do... but, if anyone wants to see photos of my modified Legacy, they can
>>> check it out on my Legacy facebook page... here is the link  Legacy
>>> ornamental mill | Facebook
>>> <https://www.facebook.com/legacyornamentalmill>  ... and here are some
>>> questions answered... why that long of a machine?... curtain poles!...
>>> mostly twisted designs(fluted, reeded, harlequin, etc.)... we can do
>>> straight work on our expanded shaper, but the Legacy can do those easily as
>>> well... sometimes the lengths are 12 feet, occasionally longer... and the
>>> customers do not want a pole that is comprised of a number of pieces, i.e.
>>> no joints... why 15 1/2 feet then?... I purchased used, an 1800 and then a
>>> 1500, and when laying out combining the two, it did not make sense to cut
>>> down the 1500 to achieve a 12 foot center-to-center, so I just combined the
>>> two full machines and got the 15 1/2 foot length... at first I only
>>> lengthened the machine... then, for reasons I still can't remember, I
>>> decided to enlarge the diameter capacity... why?, because it seemed the
>>> logical thing to do and from a technical standpoint, not that difficult to
>>> achieve... and it was fun!, LOL!... have yet to do a column, as we are not
>>> known for doing columns and there are specialists who do column work... and
>>> Mac, thanks for asking if I'm still around, LOL!... had my fair share of
>>> economic challenges, as most of us have had, but I'm focused on surviving
>>> economically with no time to "play" with my machine... but I do follow the
>>> group, always... Joe B.
>>>
>>> On Thursday, November 26, 2020 at 4:51:27 PM UTC-5 vie...@gmail.com
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thanks.  No, I didn't see his posts.  Still wondering what you do with
>>>> that beast other than huge columns,
>>>>
>>>> By the way some of those capitol columns now reside at the US National
>>>> Arboretum off New York Avenue in Wash., DC.. My old agency manages the
>>>> Aboretum and when they were moved I was able to pick up a chunk left over
>>>> from them being fitted into their new home. Use it as a point of interest
>>>> in my garden.
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Nov 26, 2020 at 3:25 PM M.W.Foscue 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Ray,
>>>>> Apparently you did not see the postings here by NY Joe (Biuno).  He
>>>>> built the King Kong of LOM's a couple years ago.
>>>>> I think he was hoping to get a contract to replace those big columns
>>>>> on "The White House" with it.
>>>>> If we are lucky, Joe will see this and post a photo or two of his
>>>>> creation.
>>>>>
>>>>> Buy the way - I think someone posted here, about 2 days after it was
>>>>> first shared here, that the listing was gone.  I guess the assumption is
>>>>> that it was sold.
>>>>> Yes - it would be nice to know if a member of The Group bought it.
>>>>> (Joe - was it you?)
>>>>>
>>>>> Happy Thanksgiving.
>>>>> Mac
>>>>> --
>>>>>
>>>>> -Original Message-
>>>>> From: Ray Leaman
>>>>

Re: Face Book Marketplace posting of a 8ft. Legacy LOM

[Tim Ziegler]

let me know Ray if FaceBook let you on or not.
Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Mon, Nov 30, 2020 at 11:42 AM Ray Leaman  wrote:

> Curtain Pole Rods?!? I'd not think of that on such a mill.  The length
> makes sense.  The customer is always right.  They must be commercial
> enterprises to need poles that long.
>
> I've added your facebook site to my desktop.  While I have seen some of
> the pics before I'm much interested in your upgrades.  I'm assuming your
> chain and sprocket router tower revolves around the CNC Upgrade?
>
> RFay
>
> On Mon, Nov 30, 2020 at 11:39 AM 'joe biunno' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>> hey to Mac, Ray and the rest in Legacy land... haven't posted to the
>> group because not much to post as far as what I might be doing with my
>> machine and dealing with complications on the general business end of what
>> we do... but, if anyone wants to see photos of my modified Legacy, they can
>> check it out on my Legacy facebook page... here is the link  Legacy
>> ornamental mill | Facebook
>> <https://www.facebook.com/legacyornamentalmill>  ... and here are some
>> questions answered... why that long of a machine?... curtain poles!...
>> mostly twisted designs(fluted, reeded, harlequin, etc.)... we can do
>> straight work on our expanded shaper, but the Legacy can do those easily as
>> well... sometimes the lengths are 12 feet, occasionally longer... and the
>> customers do not want a pole that is comprised of a number of pieces, i.e.
>> no joints... why 15 1/2 feet then?... I purchased used, an 1800 and then a
>> 1500, and when laying out combining the two, it did not make sense to cut
>> down the 1500 to achieve a 12 foot center-to-center, so I just combined the
>> two full machines and got the 15 1/2 foot length... at first I only
>> lengthened the machine... then, for reasons I still can't remember, I
>> decided to enlarge the diameter capacity... why?, because it seemed the
>> logical thing to do and from a technical standpoint, not that difficult to
>> achieve... and it was fun!, LOL!... have yet to do a column, as we are not
>> known for doing columns and there are specialists who do column work... and
>> Mac, thanks for asking if I'm still around, LOL!... had my fair share of
>> economic challenges, as most of us have had, but I'm focused on surviving
>> economically with no time to "play" with my machine... but I do follow the
>> group, always... Joe B.
>>
>> On Thursday, November 26, 2020 at 4:51:27 PM UTC-5 vie...@gmail.com
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks.  No, I didn't see his posts.  Still wondering what you do with
>>> that beast other than huge columns,
>>>
>>> By the way some of those capitol columns now reside at the US National
>>> Arboretum off New York Avenue in Wash., DC.. My old agency manages the
>>> Aboretum and when they were moved I was able to pick up a chunk left over
>>> from them being fitted into their new home. Use it as a point of interest
>>> in my garden.
>>>
>>> On Thu, Nov 26, 2020 at 3:25 PM M.W.Foscue 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Ray,
>>>> Apparently you did not see the postings here by NY Joe (Biuno).  He
>>>> built the King Kong of LOM's a couple years ago.
>>>> I think he was hoping to get a contract to replace those big columns on
>>>> "The White House" with it.
>>>> If we are lucky, Joe will see this and post a photo or two of his
>>>> creation.
>>>>
>>>> Buy the way - I think someone posted here, about 2 days after it was
>>>> first shared here, that the listing was gone.  I guess the assumption is
>>>> that it was sold.
>>>> Yes - it would be nice to know if a member of The Group bought it.
>>>> (Joe - was it you?)
>>>>
>>>> Happy Thanksgiving.
>>>> Mac
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: Ray Leaman
>>>> Sent: Nov 26, 2020 2:43 PM
>>>> To: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: Re: Face Book Marketplace posting of a 8ft. Legacy LOM
>>>>
>>>> I lost track of this auction and it was closed by the time I wanted to
>>>> check back.
>>>>
>>>> Did anyone on here buy it?  I'm wondering what someone

Re: Face Book Marketplace posting of a 8ft. Legacy LOM

[Tim Ziegler]

Hey Mac, Joe<

I can not get that link to work. Could you get it to open?

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Mon, Nov 30, 2020 at 11:18 AM M.W.Foscue  wrote:

> Joe,
> Great hearing from you.  Was getting concerned - since you live smack in
> the middle of  "Virus Land".
> Hang in there - your business will pick back up.
> Thanks for explaining the background info on your "King Kong" Mill!
> I'm sure a lot of the new folks have no idea about its existence.
> Can't let THAT go unmentioned!
> Be Safe & Stay Healthy!
> Mac
> --
>
> -Original Message-
> From: 'joe biunno' via Legacy Ornamental Mills
> Sent: Nov 30, 2020 11:39 AM
> To: Legacy Ornamental Mills
> Subject: Re: Face Book Marketplace posting of a 8ft. Legacy LOM
>
> hey to Mac, Ray and the rest in Legacy land... haven't posted to the group
> because not much to post as far as what I might be doing with my machine
> and dealing with complications on the general business end of what we do...
> but, if anyone wants to see photos of my modified Legacy, they can check it
> out on my Legacy facebook page... here is the link  Legacy ornamental
> mill | Facebook <https://www.facebook.com/legacyornamentalmill>  ... and
> here are some questions answered... why that long of a machine?... curtain
> poles!... mostly twisted designs(fluted, reeded, harlequin, etc.)... we can
> do straight work on our expanded shaper, but the Legacy can do those easily
> as well... sometimes the lengths are 12 feet, occasionally longer... and
> the customers do not want a pole that is comprised of a number of pieces,
> i.e. no joints... why 15 1/2 feet then?... I purchased used, an 1800 and
> then a 1500, and when laying out combining the two, it did not make sense
> to cut down the 1500 to achieve a 12 foot center-to-center, so I just
> combined the two full machines and got the 15 1/2 foot length... at first I
> only lengthened the machine... then, for reasons I still can't remember, I
> decided to enlarge the diameter capacity... why?, because it seemed the
> logical thing to do and from a technical standpoint, not that difficult to
> achieve... and it was fun!, LOL!... have yet to do a column, as we are not
> known for doing columns and there are specialists who do column work... and
> Mac, thanks for asking if I'm still around, LOL!... had my fair share of
> economic challenges, as most of us have had, but I'm focused on surviving
> economically with no time to "play" with my machine... but I do follow the
> group, always... Joe B.
>
> On Thursday, November 26, 2020 at 4:51:27 PM UTC-5 vie...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Thanks.  No, I didn't see his posts.  Still wondering what you do with
>> that beast other than huge columns,
>>
>> By the way some of those capitol columns now reside at the US National
>> Arboretum off New York Avenue in Wash., DC.. My old agency manages the
>> Aboretum and when they were moved I was able to pick up a chunk left over
>> from them being fitted into their new home. Use it as a point of interest
>> in my garden.
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 26, 2020 at 3:25 PM M.W.Foscue  wrote:
>>
>>> Ray,
>>> Apparently you did not see the postings here by NY Joe (Biuno).  He
>>> built the King Kong of LOM's a couple years ago.
>>> I think he was hoping to get a contract to replace those big columns on
>>> "The White House" with it.
>>> If we are lucky, Joe will see this and post a photo or two of his
>>> creation.
>>>
>>> Buy the way - I think someone posted here, about 2 days after it was
>>> first shared here, that the listing was gone.  I guess the assumption is
>>> that it was sold.
>>> Yes - it would be nice to know if a member of The Group bought it.  (Joe
>>> - was it you?)
>>>
>>> Happy Thanksgiving.
>>> Mac
>>> --
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Ray Leaman
>>> Sent: Nov 26, 2020 2:43 PM
>>> To: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Face Book Marketplace posting of a 8ft. Legacy LOM
>>>
>>> I lost track of this auction and it was closed by the time I wanted to
>>> check back.
>>>
>>> Did anyone on here buy it?  I'm wondering what someone would do with
>>> such a large machine.  I get columns and all but would it be an all around
>>> user or more of a specialty mill.
>>>
>>> Ray
>&

Re: Face Book Marketplace posting of a 8ft. Legacy LOM

[Tim Ziegler]

Hey Joe,

Great to hear from you. Yes I will check out the FaceBook posts you made.
I have a part I am going to post for someone to identify here next too.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Mon, Nov 30, 2020 at 10:39 AM 'joe biunno' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> hey to Mac, Ray and the rest in Legacy land... haven't posted to the group
> because not much to post as far as what I might be doing with my machine
> and dealing with complications on the general business end of what we do...
> but, if anyone wants to see photos of my modified Legacy, they can check it
> out on my Legacy facebook page... here is the link  Legacy ornamental
> mill | Facebook <https://www.facebook.com/legacyornamentalmill>  ... and
> here are some questions answered... why that long of a machine?... curtain
> poles!... mostly twisted designs(fluted, reeded, harlequin, etc.)... we can
> do straight work on our expanded shaper, but the Legacy can do those easily
> as well... sometimes the lengths are 12 feet, occasionally longer... and
> the customers do not want a pole that is comprised of a number of pieces,
> i.e. no joints... why 15 1/2 feet then?... I purchased used, an 1800 and
> then a 1500, and when laying out combining the two, it did not make sense
> to cut down the 1500 to achieve a 12 foot center-to-center, so I just
> combined the two full machines and got the 15 1/2 foot length... at first I
> only lengthened the machine... then, for reasons I still can't remember, I
> decided to enlarge the diameter capacity... why?, because it seemed the
> logical thing to do and from a technical standpoint, not that difficult to
> achieve... and it was fun!, LOL!... have yet to do a column, as we are not
> known for doing columns and there are specialists who do column work... and
> Mac, thanks for asking if I'm still around, LOL!... had my fair share of
> economic challenges, as most of us have had, but I'm focused on surviving
> economically with no time to "play" with my machine... but I do follow the
> group, always... Joe B.
>
> On Thursday, November 26, 2020 at 4:51:27 PM UTC-5 vie...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Thanks.  No, I didn't see his posts.  Still wondering what you do with
>> that beast other than huge columns,
>>
>> By the way some of those capitol columns now reside at the US National
>> Arboretum off New York Avenue in Wash., DC.. My old agency manages the
>> Aboretum and when they were moved I was able to pick up a chunk left over
>> from them being fitted into their new home. Use it as a point of interest
>> in my garden.
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 26, 2020 at 3:25 PM M.W.Foscue  wrote:
>>
>>> Ray,
>>> Apparently you did not see the postings here by NY Joe (Biuno).  He
>>> built the King Kong of LOM's a couple years ago.
>>> I think he was hoping to get a contract to replace those big columns on
>>> "The White House" with it.
>>> If we are lucky, Joe will see this and post a photo or two of his
>>> creation.
>>>
>>> Buy the way - I think someone posted here, about 2 days after it was
>>> first shared here, that the listing was gone.  I guess the assumption is
>>> that it was sold.
>>> Yes - it would be nice to know if a member of The Group bought it.  (Joe
>>> - was it you?)
>>>
>>> Happy Thanksgiving.
>>> Mac
>>> --
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Ray Leaman
>>> Sent: Nov 26, 2020 2:43 PM
>>> To: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Face Book Marketplace posting of a 8ft. Legacy LOM
>>>
>>> I lost track of this auction and it was closed by the time I wanted to
>>> check back.
>>>
>>> Did anyone on here buy it?  I'm wondering what someone would do with
>>> such a large machine.  I get columns and all but would it be an all around
>>> user or more of a specialty mill.
>>>
>>> Ray
>>> --
>>>
>>> On Thu, Nov 19, 2020 at 10:56 PM Tim Ziegler  wrote:
>>>
>>>> Yea better start ckg in with people for sure.
>>>>
>>>> Kind Regards,
>>>>
>>>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>>>> --
>>>> On Thu, Nov 19, 2020 at 6:51 PM M.W.Foscue 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I wonder if  "NY Joe" Biuno snagged it up.  LoL!
&g

Re: Face Book Marketplace posting of a 8ft. Legacy LOM

[Ray Leaman]

Curtain Pole Rods?!? I'd not think of that on such a mill.  The length
makes sense.  The customer is always right.  They must be commercial
enterprises to need poles that long.

I've added your facebook site to my desktop.  While I have seen some of the
pics before I'm much interested in your upgrades.  I'm assuming your chain
and sprocket router tower revolves around the CNC Upgrade?

RFay

On Mon, Nov 30, 2020 at 11:39 AM 'joe biunno' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> hey to Mac, Ray and the rest in Legacy land... haven't posted to the group
> because not much to post as far as what I might be doing with my machine
> and dealing with complications on the general business end of what we do...
> but, if anyone wants to see photos of my modified Legacy, they can check it
> out on my Legacy facebook page... here is the link  Legacy ornamental
> mill | Facebook <https://www.facebook.com/legacyornamentalmill>  ... and
> here are some questions answered... why that long of a machine?... curtain
> poles!... mostly twisted designs(fluted, reeded, harlequin, etc.)... we can
> do straight work on our expanded shaper, but the Legacy can do those easily
> as well... sometimes the lengths are 12 feet, occasionally longer... and
> the customers do not want a pole that is comprised of a number of pieces,
> i.e. no joints... why 15 1/2 feet then?... I purchased used, an 1800 and
> then a 1500, and when laying out combining the two, it did not make sense
> to cut down the 1500 to achieve a 12 foot center-to-center, so I just
> combined the two full machines and got the 15 1/2 foot length... at first I
> only lengthened the machine... then, for reasons I still can't remember, I
> decided to enlarge the diameter capacity... why?, because it seemed the
> logical thing to do and from a technical standpoint, not that difficult to
> achieve... and it was fun!, LOL!... have yet to do a column, as we are not
> known for doing columns and there are specialists who do column work... and
> Mac, thanks for asking if I'm still around, LOL!... had my fair share of
> economic challenges, as most of us have had, but I'm focused on surviving
> economically with no time to "play" with my machine... but I do follow the
> group, always... Joe B.
>
> On Thursday, November 26, 2020 at 4:51:27 PM UTC-5 vie...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Thanks.  No, I didn't see his posts.  Still wondering what you do with
>> that beast other than huge columns,
>>
>> By the way some of those capitol columns now reside at the US National
>> Arboretum off New York Avenue in Wash., DC.. My old agency manages the
>> Aboretum and when they were moved I was able to pick up a chunk left over
>> from them being fitted into their new home. Use it as a point of interest
>> in my garden.
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 26, 2020 at 3:25 PM M.W.Foscue  wrote:
>>
>>> Ray,
>>> Apparently you did not see the postings here by NY Joe (Biuno).  He
>>> built the King Kong of LOM's a couple years ago.
>>> I think he was hoping to get a contract to replace those big columns on
>>> "The White House" with it.
>>> If we are lucky, Joe will see this and post a photo or two of his
>>> creation.
>>>
>>> Buy the way - I think someone posted here, about 2 days after it was
>>> first shared here, that the listing was gone.  I guess the assumption is
>>> that it was sold.
>>> Yes - it would be nice to know if a member of The Group bought it.  (Joe
>>> - was it you?)
>>>
>>> Happy Thanksgiving.
>>> Mac
>>> --
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Ray Leaman
>>> Sent: Nov 26, 2020 2:43 PM
>>> To: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Face Book Marketplace posting of a 8ft. Legacy LOM
>>>
>>> I lost track of this auction and it was closed by the time I wanted to
>>> check back.
>>>
>>> Did anyone on here buy it?  I'm wondering what someone would do with
>>> such a large machine.  I get columns and all but would it be an all around
>>> user or more of a specialty mill.
>>>
>>> Ray
>>> --
>>>
>>> On Thu, Nov 19, 2020 at 10:56 PM Tim Ziegler  wrote:
>>>
>>>> Yea better start ckg in with people for sure.
>>>>
>>>> Kind Regards,
>>>>
>>>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>>>> --
>>>> On Thu, Nov 19, 2020 at 6:51 PM M.W.Foscue 
>>>> wr

Re: Face Book Marketplace posting of a 8ft. Legacy LOM

[M.W.Foscue]

Joe,Great hearing from you.  Was getting concerned - since you live smack in the middle of  "Virus Land". Hang in there - your business will pick back up.Thanks for explaining the background info on your "King Kong" Mill!  I'm sure a lot of the new folks have no idea about its existence.Can't let THAT go unmentioned!  Be Safe & Stay Healthy!Mac-Original Message-
From: 'joe biunno' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
Sent: Nov 30, 2020 11:39 AM
To: Legacy Ornamental Mills 
Subject: Re: Face Book Marketplace posting of a 8ft. Legacy LOM

hey to Mac, Ray and the rest in Legacy land... haven't posted to the group because not much to post as far as what I might be doing with my machine and dealing with complications on the general business end of what we do... but, if anyone wants to see photos of my modified Legacy, they can check it out on my Legacy facebook page... here is the link 

Legacy ornamental mill | Facebook  ... and here are some questions answered... why that long of a machine?... curtain poles!... mostly twisted designs(fluted, reeded, harlequin, etc.)... we can do straight work on our expanded shaper, but the Legacy can do those easily as well... sometimes the lengths are 12 feet, occasionally longer... and the customers do not want a pole that is comprised of a number of pieces, i.e. no joints... why 15 1/2 feet then?... I purchased used, an 1800 and then a 1500, and when laying out combining the two, it did not make sense to cut down the 1500 to achieve a 12 foot center-to-center, so I just combined the two full machines and got the 15 1/2 foot length... at first I only lengthened the machine... then, for reasons I still can't remember, I decided to enlarge the diameter capacity... why?, because it seemed the logical thing to do and from a technical standpoint, not that difficult to achieve... and it was fun!, LOL!... have yet to do a column, as we are not known for doing columns and there are specialists who do column work... and Mac, thanks for asking if I'm still around, LOL!... had my fair share of economic challenges, as most of us have had, but I'm focused on surviving economically with no time to "play" with my machine... but I do follow the group, always... Joe B.On Thursday, November 26, 2020 at 4:51:27 PM UTC-5 vie...@gmail.com wrote:Thanks.  No, I didn't see his posts.  Still wondering what you do with that beast other than huge columns,By the way some of those capitol columns now reside at the US National Arboretum off New York Avenue in Wash., DC.. My old agency manages the Aboretum and when they were moved I was able to pick up a chunk left over from them being fitted into their new home. Use it as a point of interest in my garden.On Thu, Nov 26, 2020 at 3:25 PM M.W.Foscue <mwfo...@earthlink.net> wrote:Ray,Apparently you did not see the postings here by NY Joe (Biuno).  He built the King Kong of LOM's a couple years ago.I think he was hoping to get a contract to replace those big columns on "The White House" with it.If we are lucky, Joe will see this and post a photo or two of his creation.Buy the way - I think someone posted here, about 2 days after it was first shared here, that the listing was gone.  I guess the assumption is that it was sold.Yes - it would be nice to know if a member of The Group bought it.  (Joe - was it you?)Happy Thanksgiving.Mac-Original Message-
From: Ray Leaman 
Sent: Nov 26, 2020 2:43 PM
To: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Face Book Marketplace posting of a 8ft. Legacy LOM

I lost track of this auction and it was closed by the time I wanted to check back.Did anyone on here buy it?  I'm wondering what someone would do with such a large machine.  I get columns and all but would it be an all around user or more of a specialty mill.RayOn Thu, Nov 19, 2020 at 10:56 PM Tim Ziegler <timjz...@gmail.com> wrote:Yea better start ckg in with people for sure. Kind Regards,Timothy J. ZieglerOn Thu, Nov 19, 2020 at 6:51 PM M.W.Foscue <mwfo...@earthlink.net> wrote:I wonder if  "NY Joe" Biuno snagged it up.  LoL!Joe, Haven't heard from you in a while.  Are you OK?Mac-Original Message-
From: Ray Leaman 
Sent: Nov 19, 2020 3:18 PM
To: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Face Book Marketplace posting of a 8ft. Legacy LOM

No longer listed Curt.On Thu, Nov 19, 2020 at 8:51 AM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com> wrote:Hello everyone, 8 foot Legacy with motor drive. Price is a little high? but if you are looking for a big unit, and if you live around PA.? this could be something for you to look at?C.A.G.8 ft.³ Legacy woodworking machine$3,500Listed a day ago in Chambersburg, PAhttps://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/3609311552425344/?ref=buy_sell_group_home&referral_code=undefined 

WjVN0ZJXy%2B02aATzJyXYNajrt60Q%40mail.gmail.com.





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Re: Face Book Marketplace posting of a 8ft. Legacy LOM

['joe biunno' via Legacy Ornamental Mills]

hey to Mac, Ray and the rest in Legacy land... haven't posted to the group 
because not much to post as far as what I might be doing with my machine 
and dealing with complications on the general business end of what we do... 
but, if anyone wants to see photos of my modified Legacy, they can check it 
out on my Legacy facebook page... here is the link  Legacy ornamental mill 
| Facebook <https://www.facebook.com/legacyornamentalmill>  ... and here 
are some questions answered... why that long of a machine?... curtain 
poles!... mostly twisted designs(fluted, reeded, harlequin, etc.)... we can 
do straight work on our expanded shaper, but the Legacy can do those easily 
as well... sometimes the lengths are 12 feet, occasionally longer... and 
the customers do not want a pole that is comprised of a number of pieces, 
i.e. no joints... why 15 1/2 feet then?... I purchased used, an 1800 and 
then a 1500, and when laying out combining the two, it did not make sense 
to cut down the 1500 to achieve a 12 foot center-to-center, so I just 
combined the two full machines and got the 15 1/2 foot length... at first I 
only lengthened the machine... then, for reasons I still can't remember, I 
decided to enlarge the diameter capacity... why?, because it seemed the 
logical thing to do and from a technical standpoint, not that difficult to 
achieve... and it was fun!, LOL!... have yet to do a column, as we are not 
known for doing columns and there are specialists who do column work... and 
Mac, thanks for asking if I'm still around, LOL!... had my fair share of 
economic challenges, as most of us have had, but I'm focused on surviving 
economically with no time to "play" with my machine... but I do follow the 
group, always... Joe B.

On Thursday, November 26, 2020 at 4:51:27 PM UTC-5 vie...@gmail.com wrote:

> Thanks.  No, I didn't see his posts.  Still wondering what you do with 
> that beast other than huge columns,
>
> By the way some of those capitol columns now reside at the US National 
> Arboretum off New York Avenue in Wash., DC.. My old agency manages the 
> Aboretum and when they were moved I was able to pick up a chunk left over 
> from them being fitted into their new home. Use it as a point of interest 
> in my garden.
>
> On Thu, Nov 26, 2020 at 3:25 PM M.W.Foscue  wrote:
>
>> Ray,
>> Apparently you did not see the postings here by NY Joe (Biuno).  He built 
>> the King Kong of LOM's a couple years ago.
>> I think he was hoping to get a contract to replace those big columns on 
>> "The White House" with it.
>> If we are lucky, Joe will see this and post a photo or two of his 
>> creation.
>>
>> Buy the way - I think someone posted here, about 2 days after it was 
>> first shared here, that the listing was gone.  I guess the assumption is 
>> that it was sold.
>> Yes - it would be nice to know if a member of The Group bought it.  (Joe 
>> - was it you?)
>>
>> Happy Thanksgiving.
>> Mac
>> ------
>>
>> -Original Message- 
>> From: Ray Leaman 
>> Sent: Nov 26, 2020 2:43 PM 
>> To: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com 
>> Subject: Re: Face Book Marketplace posting of a 8ft. Legacy LOM 
>>
>> I lost track of this auction and it was closed by the time I wanted to 
>> check back.
>>
>> Did anyone on here buy it?  I'm wondering what someone would do with such 
>> a large machine.  I get columns and all but would it be an all around user 
>> or more of a specialty mill.
>>
>> Ray
>> --
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 19, 2020 at 10:56 PM Tim Ziegler  wrote:
>>
>>> Yea better start ckg in with people for sure. 
>>>
>>> Kind Regards,
>>>
>>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>>> --
>>> On Thu, Nov 19, 2020 at 6:51 PM M.W.Foscue  
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I wonder if  "NY Joe" Biuno snagged it up.  LoL!
>>>> Joe, Haven't heard from you in a while.  Are you OK?
>>>> Mac
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>> -Original Message- 
>>>> From: Ray Leaman 
>>>> Sent: Nov 19, 2020 3:18 PM 
>>>> To: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com 
>>>> Subject: Re: Face Book Marketplace posting of a 8ft. Legacy LOM 
>>>>
>>>> No longer listed Curt.
>>>> --
>>>> On Thu, Nov 19, 2020 at 8:51 AM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental 
>>>> Mills  wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hello everyone, 8 foot Legacy with motor drive. Price is a little 
&g

Re: Face Book Marketplace posting of a 8ft. Legacy LOM

[Ray Leaman]

Thanks.  No, I didn't see his posts.  Still wondering what you do with that
beast other than huge columns,

By the way some of those capitol columns now reside at the US National
Arboretum off New York Avenue in Wash., DC.. My old agency manages the
Aboretum and when they were moved I was able to pick up a chunk left over
from them being fitted into their new home. Use it as a point of interest
in my garden.

On Thu, Nov 26, 2020 at 3:25 PM M.W.Foscue  wrote:

> Ray,
> Apparently you did not see the postings here by NY Joe (Biuno).  He built
> the King Kong of LOM's a couple years ago.
> I think he was hoping to get a contract to replace those big columns on
> "The White House" with it.
> If we are lucky, Joe will see this and post a photo or two of his creation.
>
> Buy the way - I think someone posted here, about 2 days after it was first
> shared here, that the listing was gone.  I guess the assumption is that it
> was sold.
> Yes - it would be nice to know if a member of The Group bought it.  (Joe -
> was it you?)
>
> Happy Thanksgiving.
> Mac
> --
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Ray Leaman
> Sent: Nov 26, 2020 2:43 PM
> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Face Book Marketplace posting of a 8ft. Legacy LOM
>
> I lost track of this auction and it was closed by the time I wanted to
> check back.
>
> Did anyone on here buy it?  I'm wondering what someone would do with such
> a large machine.  I get columns and all but would it be an all around user
> or more of a specialty mill.
>
> Ray
> --
>
> On Thu, Nov 19, 2020 at 10:56 PM Tim Ziegler 
> wrote:
>
>> Yea better start ckg in with people for sure.
>>
>> Kind Regards,
>>
>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>> --
>> On Thu, Nov 19, 2020 at 6:51 PM M.W.Foscue 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I wonder if  "NY Joe" Biuno snagged it up.  LoL!
>>> Joe, Haven't heard from you in a while.  Are you OK?
>>> Mac
>>> --
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Ray Leaman
>>> Sent: Nov 19, 2020 3:18 PM
>>> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Face Book Marketplace posting of a 8ft. Legacy LOM
>>>
>>> No longer listed Curt.
>>> --
>>> On Thu, Nov 19, 2020 at 8:51 AM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental
>>> Mills  wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hello everyone, 8 foot Legacy with motor drive. Price is a little high?
>>>> but if you are looking for a big unit, and if you live around PA.? this
>>>> could be something for you to look at?
>>>>
>>>> C.A.G.
>>>>
>>>> 8 ft.³ Legacy woodworking machine
>>>> $3,500
>>>> Listed a day ago in Chambersburg, PA
>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/103764679662725/>
>>>>
>>>> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/3609311552425344/?ref=buy_sell_group_home&referral_code=undefined
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> WjVN0ZJXy%2B02aATzJyXYNajrt60Q%40mail.gmail.com
>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/CAEnRCd%2B%2B6RmYnscEwFAbJ1WjVN0ZJXy%2B02aATzJyXYNajrt60Q%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer>
>>>> .
>>>
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Re: Face Book Marketplace posting of a 8ft. Legacy LOM

[M.W.Foscue]

Ray,Apparently you did not see the postings here by NY Joe (Biuno).  He built the King Kong of LOM's a couple years ago.I think he was hoping to get a contract to replace those big columns on "The White House" with it.If we are lucky, Joe will see this and post a photo or two of his creation.Buy the way - I think someone posted here, about 2 days after it was first shared here, that the listing was gone.  I guess the assumption is that it was sold.Yes - it would be nice to know if a member of The Group bought it.  (Joe - was it you?)Happy Thanksgiving.Mac-Original Message-
From: Ray Leaman 
Sent: Nov 26, 2020 2:43 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Face Book Marketplace posting of a 8ft. Legacy LOM

I lost track of this auction and it was closed by the time I wanted to check back.Did anyone on here buy it?  I'm wondering what someone would do with such a large machine.  I get columns and all but would it be an all around user or more of a specialty mill.RayOn Thu, Nov 19, 2020 at 10:56 PM Tim Ziegler <timjzieg...@gmail.com> wrote:Yea better start ckg in with people for sure. Kind Regards,Timothy J. ZieglerOn Thu, Nov 19, 2020 at 6:51 PM M.W.Foscue <mwfos...@earthlink.net> wrote:I wonder if  "NY Joe" Biuno snagged it up.  LoL!Joe, Haven't heard from you in a while.  Are you OK?Mac-Original Message-
From: Ray Leaman 
Sent: Nov 19, 2020 3:18 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Face Book Marketplace posting of a 8ft. Legacy LOM

No longer listed Curt.On Thu, Nov 19, 2020 at 8:51 AM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:Hello everyone, 8 foot Legacy with motor drive. Price is a little high? but if you are looking for a big unit, and if you live around PA.? this could be something for you to look at?C.A.G.8 ft.³ Legacy woodworking machine$3,500Listed a day ago in Chambersburg, PAhttps://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/3609311552425344/?ref=buy_sell_group_home&referral_code=undefined 

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Re: Face Book Marketplace posting of a 8ft. Legacy LOM

[Ray Leaman]

I lost track of this auction and it was closed by the time I wanted to
check back.

Did anyone on here buy it?  I'm wondering what someone would do with such a
large machine.  I get columns and all but would it be an all around user or
more of a specialty mill.

Ray

On Thu, Nov 19, 2020 at 10:56 PM Tim Ziegler  wrote:

> Yea better start ckg in with people for sure.
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
> On Thu, Nov 19, 2020 at 6:51 PM M.W.Foscue  wrote:
>
>> I wonder if  "NY Joe" Biuno snagged it up.  LoL!
>> Joe, Haven't heard from you in a while.  Are you OK?
>> Mac
>> --
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Ray Leaman
>> Sent: Nov 19, 2020 3:18 PM
>> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Face Book Marketplace posting of a 8ft. Legacy LOM
>>
>> No longer listed Curt.
>> --
>> On Thu, Nov 19, 2020 at 8:51 AM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills
>>  wrote:
>>
>>> Hello everyone, 8 foot Legacy with motor drive. Price is a little high?
>>> but if you are looking for a big unit, and if you live around PA.? this
>>> could be something for you to look at?
>>>
>>> C.A.G.
>>>
>>> 8 ft.³ Legacy woodworking machine
>>> $3,500
>>> Listed a day ago in Chambersburg, PA
>>> <https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/103764679662725/>
>>>
>>> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/3609311552425344/?ref=buy_sell_group_home&referral_code=undefined
>>>
>>>
>>> WjVN0ZJXy%2B02aATzJyXYNajrt60Q%40mail.gmail.com
>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/CAEnRCd%2B%2B6RmYnscEwFAbJ1WjVN0ZJXy%2B02aATzJyXYNajrt60Q%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer>
>>> .
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Re: Face Book Marketplace posting of a 8ft. Legacy LOM

[Tim Ziegler]

Yea better start ckg in with people for sure.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Thu, Nov 19, 2020 at 6:51 PM M.W.Foscue  wrote:

> I wonder if  "NY Joe" Biuno snagged it up.  LoL!
> Joe, Haven't heard from you in a while.  Are you OK?
> Mac
> --
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Ray Leaman
> Sent: Nov 19, 2020 3:18 PM
> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Face Book Marketplace posting of a 8ft. Legacy LOM
>
> No longer listed Curt.
> --
> On Thu, Nov 19, 2020 at 8:51 AM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>> Hello everyone, 8 foot Legacy with motor drive. Price is a little high?
>> but if you are looking for a big unit, and if you live around PA.? this
>> could be something for you to look at?
>>
>> C.A.G.
>>
>> 8 ft.³ Legacy woodworking machine
>> $3,500
>> Listed a day ago in Chambersburg, PA
>> <https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/103764679662725/>
>>
>> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/3609311552425344/?ref=buy_sell_group_home&referral_code=undefined
>>
>>
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Re: Face Book Marketplace posting of a 8ft. Legacy LOM

[M.W.Foscue]

I wonder if  "NY Joe" Biuno snagged it up.  LoL!Joe, Haven't heard from you in a while.  Are you OK?Mac-Original Message-
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No longer listed Curt.On Thu, Nov 19, 2020 at 8:51 AM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:Hello everyone, 8 foot Legacy with motor drive. Price is a little high? but if you are looking for a big unit, and if you live around PA.? this could be something for you to look at?C.A.G.8 ft.³ Legacy woodworking machine$3,500Listed a day ago in Chambersburg, PAhttps://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/3609311552425344/?ref=buy_sell_group_home&referral_code=undefined 

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Re: Face Book Marketplace posting of a 8ft. Legacy LOM

[Ray Leaman]

No longer listed Curt.

On Thu, Nov 19, 2020 at 8:51 AM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
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> Hello everyone, 8 foot Legacy with motor drive. Price is a little high?
> but if you are looking for a big unit, and if you live around PA.? this
> could be something for you to look at?
>
> C.A.G.
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Re: Face Book Marketplace posting of a 8ft. Legacy LOM

[Tim Ziegler]

Hey Curt it shows gone. No longer listed. Nice and clean though


On Thu, Nov 19, 2020, 7:51 AM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
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> Hello everyone, 8 foot Legacy with motor drive. Price is a little high?
> but if you are looking for a big unit, and if you live around PA.? this
> could be something for you to look at?
>
> C.A.G.
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RE: Posting replies to members

[bulkeley]

Yes got this message too

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Hi Bill

 This is strange I have tried to post by the REPLY method as I am doing now. 
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Re: Posting replies to members

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Hi Bill
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now. Will see if it works!!!

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RE: Posting replies to members

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I can see this message Richard

 

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Posting replies to members

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For some reason I can't post a Reply to Bill or Roger on the Group I can of 
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Re: Problem with posting pictures

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Send the photos to my email address- artmarb...@comcast.net .  I'll check for 
anything odd.

Tim

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Problem with posting pictures

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I have tried several times to post a picture on the group site and google keeps 
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posting

[Bill Bulkeley]

I have a guy emailing me by the name of Dan and he is following the group
but can't seem to post
Can someone post how to get started posting for him I don't have a clue I
just receive and reply to the emails
To post
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Re: Newbie posting

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Thanks to all for the responses and information.
I am located in Cocoa Beach, Fl.
Bought the mill south of here.
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Re: Newbie posting

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ID of your machine should be pretty easy.  I have a hidden history page
here. http://ornamentalmills.com/history/index.html .  Also the missing
handle for the y-axis is available at several industrial suppliers but
McMaster-Carr is my preferred source for that part.

-Tim


- Original Message - 
From: "Ron" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2013 5:23 AM
Subject: Newbie posting


Hello,
I wanted to post an introductory message to get started with this group.
My name is Ron and I acquired an old steel Legacy recently but have not yet
set it up. I couldn't pass it up for $200 including 6 or 8 Magnate bits.
It is about 9 ft long overall and is fairly complete though lacking a
support table. So one of my first tasks after I have thoroughly cleaned the
machine will be to fabricate a mobile cabinet style base for it.
My big concern is the lack of support for older models like mine. I don't
have a manual or parts list so I'm not sure of what is missing other than
the obvious things like the y axis handle.
When I have fully identified the model I have, I will post my needs in more
detail then perhaps someone in the group can give me some help.
I have a mechanical engineering and machinist background as well as machine
tool design and modification including CNC programming and use (although
it's been a few years). The point is I'm not too concerned about designing
or making the parts I need, but would appreciate all the help I can get
understanding the uses and nuances of this machine. With all the experienced
and skilled users posting here there appears to be no reason to reinvent the
wheel by going it alone.
So thanks in advance to all and hopefully I can add something as well once I
get going.
Regards,
Ron

"I want to die in my sleep like my grandfather and not screaming and crying
like his passengers"
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Re: Newbie posting

[Tim Krause]

Welcome to the group Ron.  You will find using your older machine is the
same principle as all the so called newer manual machines.  Did you get any
training videos with the machine? If not, www.legacywoodworking.com has two
places that you should have seen already.  The first place to get started is
with the techniques http://legacywoodworking.com/techniques.cfm .  Learn to
mount the stock and turn a piece round.  Then add some beads and coves and
move on to doing some flutes.  Don't use expensive wood or try to make a
master piece, just shred some pine and see how things handle.   Then if
you're ready to just jump in you can look at the 10 skill building projects.
http://legacywoodworking.com/ProjectPlans.cfm .Then you can move on to the
Legacy Academy http://legacywoodworking.com/classProjects.cfm

I will send you a link to download the manual for the steel machines in
private.  We are authorized to share the manual within the group.

The most important thing, if something feels awkward or unsafe, it
probablably is.  Ask questions!  I have yet to see a really dumb question.

-Tim

- Original Message - 
From: "Ron" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2013 5:23 AM
Subject: Newbie posting


Hello,
I wanted to post an introductory message to get started with this group.
My name is Ron and I acquired an old steel Legacy recently but have not yet
set it up. I couldn't pass it up for $200 including 6 or 8 Magnate bits.
It is about 9 ft long overall and is fairly complete though lacking a
support table. So one of my first tasks after I have thoroughly cleaned the
machine will be to fabricate a mobile cabinet style base for it.
My big concern is the lack of support for older models like mine. I don't
have a manual or parts list so I'm not sure of what is missing other than
the obvious things like the y axis handle.
When I have fully identified the model I have, I will post my needs in more
detail then perhaps someone in the group can give me some help.
I have a mechanical engineering and machinist background as well as machine
tool design and modification including CNC programming and use (although
it's been a few years). The point is I'm not too concerned about designing
or making the parts I need, but would appreciate all the help I can get
understanding the uses and nuances of this machine. With all the experienced
and skilled users posting here there appears to be no reason to reinvent the
wheel by going it alone.
So thanks in advance to all and hopefully I can add something as well once I
get going.
Regards,
Ron

"I want to die in my sleep like my grandfather and not screaming and crying
like his passengers"
Herb Shriner.

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Re: Newbie posting

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Hello Ron,Welcome!  And congrats on you recent acquisition.  You have come to the right place - and you started out on a high note by "introducing" yourself and sharing how you might "relate" to the Group.Now for some good news (That's what you get for "joining" us).  A couple months ago I emailed Tim Krause, one of our Group's "Gurus" and our Group moderator, a complete scanned copy of a "steely" Legacy Mill.  I expect he will reply to your email welcoming you in the next 24 hours.  I am sure there are other Steely owners - but you are the only one I have seen mention it so far.Do not be afraid to pose your questions and concerns.  I suggest you go to the Group's Home page and find the link for placing your "location pin" on the Owners Map.  By the way where are you located?  And where did you acquire the mill? Again, welcome.Mac-Original Message->From: Ron >Sent: Apr 4, 2013 9:23 AM>To: "legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com" >Subject: Newbie posting>>Hello,>I wanted to post an introductory message to get started with this group.>My name is Ron and I acquired an old steel Legacy recently but have not yet set it up. I couldn't pass it up for $200 including 6 or 8 Magnate bits.>It is about 9 ft long overall and is fairly complete though lacking a support table. So one of my first tasks after I have thoroughly cleaned the machine will be to fabricate a mobile cabinet style base for it.>My big concern is the lack of support for older models like mine. I don't have a manual or parts list so I'm not sure of what is missing other than the obvious things like the y axis handle.>When I have fully identified the model I have, I will post my needs in more detail then perhaps someone in the group can give me some help.>I have a mechanical engineering and machinist background as well as machine tool design and modification including CNC programming and use (although it's been a few years). The point is I'm not too concerned about designing or making the parts I need, but would appreciate all the help I can get understanding the uses and nuances of this machine. With all the experienced and skilled users posting here there appears to be no reason to reinvent the wheel by going it alone.>So thanks in advance to all and hopefully I can add something as well once I get going.>Regards,>Ron



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Newbie posting

[Ron]

Hello,
I wanted to post an introductory message to get started with this group.
My name is Ron and I acquired an old steel Legacy recently but have not yet set 
it up. I couldn't pass it up for $200 including 6 or 8 Magnate bits.
It is about 9 ft long overall and is fairly complete though lacking a support 
table. So one of my first tasks after I have thoroughly cleaned the machine 
will be to fabricate a mobile cabinet style base for it.
My big concern is the lack of support for older models like mine. I don't have 
a manual or parts list so I'm not sure of what is missing other than the 
obvious things like the y axis handle.
When I have fully identified the model I have, I will post my needs in more 
detail then perhaps someone in the group can give me some help.
I have a mechanical engineering and machinist background as well as machine 
tool design and modification including CNC programming and use (although it's 
been a few years). The point is I'm not too concerned about designing or making 
the parts I need, but would appreciate all the help I can get understanding the 
uses and nuances of this machine. With all the experienced and skilled users 
posting here there appears to be no reason to reinvent the wheel by going it 
alone.
So thanks in advance to all and hopefully I can add something as well once I 
get going.
Regards,
Ron

"I want to die in my sleep like my grandfather and not screaming and crying 
like his passengers"
Herb Shriner.

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Posting Images to the group

[Tim Krause]

This is one long winded post!  It's almost off topic in a way.  It deals with 
posting images to the group.  Because of the complexities involved and the 
variables I've skipped even starting to write about this topic for years.  
Here's my first crack at it.  Keep in mind, we have members with a wide range 
of computer knowledge.  There are many ways to deal with images on the group.  
There are just as many options for posting images to the group.  What I'm going 
to attempt to do is talk about the process and some of the problems you may 
encounter when sharing photos.  This is a rough draft but it might turn into a 
full blown web page.  
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Posting Images in the Ornamental Mills Group

It comes down to these steps:

Part One: Taking Photos
1. Photographing the Subject.
2. Original size consideration.
3. Transferring photos to your computer.

Part Two: Editing Photos
1. Cropping.
2. Sizing for Web and Email

Part Three: Posting Photos
1. Email with images inline.
2. Email with images attached.
3. Linking to an image stored on a web site or free host.

Part One: Taking Photos

When taking a photo consider what the subject is and focus on that subject.  
Excessive background is not needed in most cases.  Consider the scale of the 
item.  Another common object can be included in your photograph to give the 
viewer an idea of how big or small an object is.  For example, a ruler or a 
pencil could show the size of a small box.  

Digital cameras have a setting that allow you to select image size.  Usually 
you will see options like VGA, 1m, 3m, 5m etc.  Those numbers refer to the 
amount of pixel stored for an image. For our use, 1mp or VGA is a good choice.  
The resulting image will be sized 1280 x 960.  The amount of file space it 
takes up would be about 1mb.  Google has a 10mb file size limit (that 
constantly changes) but as a general rule smaller files are better for sharing 
photos on the web.  

What happens if you use a camera in say the 7mp mode? Simple, the photo becomes 
3072 x 2304 in size.  This is three times the size of most computer monitors 
used today.  The file size also becomes 7mb per photo.  Remember Google's 
limit? You could only post one of those pictures.  We will talk about sizing 
images in part two.  If you cannot figure out how to change the setting on you 
camera, we will take care of it in the editing phase.

The final part of getting the picture posted on line is getting the photos from 
your camera to your computer.  I don't think I can tell you how to do this.  I 
will say it usually involves plugging your camera into a port on your computer 
with a cable or taking your camera and placing it in a cradle for your camera 
that is hooked up to your computer.  From there it become a drive just like 
your hard drive.  When you open "My Computer" you will see either a new device 
or drive that you may not recognize.  Explore that option and see if you see a 
folder named DCIM.  Inside that folder you will possibly see another folder 
labeled 101MSDCF.  Inside of that folder you will see files that are the actual 
pictures.  Select and copy them to your hard drive for you to edit them with.   
This advice is really camera dependant.  Manufactures all do things 
differently. 

This is where things get a little complicated.  I would suggest naming a folder 
on your hard drive where you store your images.  For example you could have a 
legacy folder.  Inside of that folder you could have one called images that you 
create.  Inside of that you could create a folder called "roped column".  There 
is where you would store your pictures of a roped column project.  Paste the 
photos there.  If this is a problem for you, editing and posting will be a 
problem as well.  Where you store the photos is called a "Path".  I'm going to 
skip explaining that and refer you to google to search for "working with 
folders" or some basic computer tutorial.  

The other option that might happen when you plug your camera in to your 
computer is that a program may automatically fire up and transfer the photos 
for you to some place that you tell it too.  Once again, that is called a path 
and you will need to write it down so when you go to grab the file you will no 
where it is stored.  

Wrapping up this section, you have taken a photo and you now have it stored on 
your computer.  Let's move on.

Part 2: Editing photos

A photo taken from your camera depending on the cameras setting can be all 
sorts of sizes.  It's possible you got too much background in the photo.  We 
can fix all of that and make the images easier to view and download by using a 
photo editing software.  This can be as complicated as you would like to make 
it.  You can choose from buying commercial software or using tools built into 
windows or that came with yo