date:20080227

I have some serious census sourcing clean-up that needs to be done, to bring
them into conformity with the Mills templates. I had done a great deal of it
prior to hearing that Legacy 7 will offer better Mills sourcing
capabilities. I have been putting the census clean-up on the back burner, so
to speak, for some time now as I wait for the new version.

 

I am wondering if I should just abandon the wait, and forge ahead? If I had
some idea of what the changes will entail, I could make a better decision on
this. 

 

Am curious if others find themselves in the same limbo, and what you have
decided to do?

 

Janis Walker Gilmore





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Re: [LegacyUG] Speaking of alternate names...

2008-02-27 Thread Jessica Morgan

I'm curious of this answer too. I'm currently debating myself on this.

My current project is converting a 300+ bound volume of family history
on my mother's side to a Legacy database. Where I've found documented
AKA's I've entered those. But I also found myself entering some AKA's
for unnamed people (Joe Bundy married _ Shumacker).
Once I get all the data in the database I'm going to attach the actual
bound book as the source to everything in the database, then merge it
to my personal family one.

So do I cull the AKA's I've put in there for easier reference purposes
when viewing people through these files, or do I source the AKA's
too?? (I'm thinking remove the AKA's sources unless they are actually
showing in the book)


On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 8:44 AM, Michele Lewis
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 When you record AKAs do you only record those names you have actually seen
 on a document or do you include POSSIBLE name variations?

 I am just starting to record AKAs and I notice there is a source attached to
 each AKA so I am thinking you are supposed to be only recording the name
 variations you have actually seen.

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RE: [LegacyUG] Speaking of alternate names...

2008-02-27 Thread ronald ferguson


Michele,

Since it means Also Known As I have always taken it to mean another name by 
which a person was also known, as distinct from a name by which they might 
possibly (or possibly not) have been known.


Ron Ferguson

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 Subject: [LegacyUG] Speaking of alternate names...
 Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2008 09:44:24 -0500

 When you record AKAs do you only record those names you have actually seen
 on a document or do you include POSSIBLE name variations?

 I am just starting to record AKAs and I notice there is a source attached to
 each AKA so I am thinking you are supposed to be only recording the name
 variations you have actually seen.

 michele



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Re: [LegacyUG] Organising unlinked people

2008-02-27 Thread John Roose

Valarie -

I understand your question/problem because I have over 30 John Trump
individuals that are unlinked in my database.

What I have done is enter each with a unique suffix identifier (eg, [A],
[B], [AA], etc) so that I can keep them seperate and easily identify them in
the name list, etc. As I find new info I try to associate it with one of
them (parents, siblings, birth or death info). This results in some linkage
but not to my main family. Sometimes this permits me to combine two or more
of these individuals. Obviously, when I find a link to my main family, I
link them and drop the identifier.

This has worked well for me.

John Roose, Lancaster, PA, US
On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 5:52 AM, Valerie Garton [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

I have been through the archives and can not find what I thought was
there.

In the past I think there have been conversations about how you have
deal with unlinked people.

For instance I have 45 entires for Patrick CULLODEN coming from marriage
licences, LDS, directories, entries in Registry of Deeds, entries on
websites, electoral roll, hearth money roll etc.

Many of these people could be the same person.

I would be interested in hearing other peoples thoughts on how to deal
with all these entires eg create a father and add each entry as a child
?

Regards from Valerie in sunny Sydney.
Researching: BEDDY, CULLODEN, DYAS and ROWAN in Belfast, Dublin, Wicklow
Wexford
Guild of One-Name Studies No: 4825 for CULLODEN HIGGINSON

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Re: [LegacyUG] Speaking of alternate names...

2008-02-27 Thread Joseph



Personally, I only use what I've found on documents, or as in those whom 
I've known, I will include nicknames and/or other names by which they 
were known.  My grandfather, for instance, was Luther Ambrose Snurr, but 
everyone called him Jim.  So I've added that into the AKA's even though 
it was not on official documents.  He even had a brother named James who 
was not called Jim, but rather HE was called Tuin


I think it's interesting to find information like that because it gives 
us a better look at our ancestors and who they were.  Who knows, one day 
we might find a News article about Tuin Snurr   but without this 
information, we might miss something about James Snurr.


So yes, I do keep as much identifying information as possible.

Joseph


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Michele Lewis wrote:
When you record AKAs do you only record those names you have actually 
seen on a document or do you include POSSIBLE name variations?


I am just starting to record AKAs and I notice there is a source 
attached to each AKA so I am thinking you are supposed to be only 
recording the name variations you have actually seen.


michele



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RE: [LegacyUG] Organising unlinked people

2008-02-27 Thread ronald ferguson


Valerie,

You can sort as you want using Access or Open Office. You can also get close by 
using FindSearch for say, Surname and then Given Name and using Print to give 
the final results


Ron Ferguson

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 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
 Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Organising unlinked people
 Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2008 22:45:15 +1100

 The reason I had the thought as below was so that I could print out a
 dropdown chart and compare them all along in a straight line which then
 might allow me to move them up or down a generation.

 This has been my ongoing problem since I first started with Legacy not
 being able to sort a list and then re-sort it by births of what ever.
 The lists that are created are static but I want to be able to change
 the sort criteria within the sorted list.

 I must admit this is very hard to explain. I have had continual
 criticism on this list of  not understanding what you are
 asking/seeking  but I have never had this problem on any other list and
 I go back to the very beginning of the very cumbersome bulletin boards
 days.

 Regards from Valerie in sunny Sydney.
 Researching: BEDDY, CULLODEN, DYAS and ROWAN in Belfast, Dublin, Wicklow
  Wexford
 Guild of One-Name Studies No: 4825 for CULLODEN  HIGGINSON

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 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ronald
 ferguson
 Sent: Wednesday, 27 February 2008 10:19 PM
 To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com
 Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Organising unlinked people



 Valerie,

 I see that you are a member of The Guild for One Name Studies and as
 such you are likely to come across this question with increasing
 frequency, as do I with my researches into the Fergusons.

 I do not see what can be gained by creating a father, nor do I quite
 understand what you are saying. Surely not linking them all to the same
 father? This would not be accurate.

 The way I deal with them is to leave them as individuals and put a note
 against the person ( I use Research Notes) to say that that person may
 be a duplicate of Name RIN or Name User IDxxx You may also like
 to put them in the TODos as work to be done.


 Ron Ferguson

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 England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/
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 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
 Subject: [LegacyUG] Organising unlinked people
 Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2008 21:52:46 +1100

 I have been through the archives and can not find what I thought was
 there.

 In the past I think there have been conversations about how you have
 deal with unlinked people.

 For instance I have 45 entires for Patrick CULLODEN coming from
 marriage licences, LDS, directories, entries in Registry of Deeds,
 entries on websites, electoral roll, hearth money roll etc.

 Many of these people could be the same person.

 I would be interested in hearing other peoples thoughts on how to deal

 with all these entires eg create a father and add each entry as a
 child ?

 Regards from Valerie in sunny Sydney.
 Researching: BEDDY, CULLODEN, DYAS and ROWAN in Belfast, Dublin,
 Wicklow  Wexford Guild of One-Name Studies No: 4825 for CULLODEN 
 HIGGINSON


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RE: [LegacyUG] census clean-up

2008-02-27 Thread cnurc

I have the same problem. For the moment Im continuing to enter my sources
as I always have done, and I hope that there will be some sort of merge that
will let me change the master source format for all existing sources (as
today where you make a change and have the option of making a new source or
modify existing). I assume there will be more to do on the source detail,
but it would be nice to know if there will be some sort of import or
conversion function so I dont need to retype it all.

Im waiting, if only to see what the templates look like. Im not sure Ill
use them, but I remember something about being able to make your own. If I
dont like them at all I guess Ill bite the v6 bullet  redo them there,
but I dont think I have anything to lose by waiting (in addition to which
Im an enormous procrastinator!)

Claire

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Gilmore
Sent: mercredi 27 février 2008 15:54
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] census clean-up

I have some serious census sourcing clean-up that needs to be done, to bring
them into conformity with the Mills templates. I had done a great deal of it
prior to hearing that Legacy 7 will offer better Mills sourcing
capabilities. I have been putting the census clean-up on the back burner, so
to speak, for some time now as I wait for the new version.

I am wondering if I should just abandon the wait, and forge ahead? If I had
some idea of what the changes will entail, I could make a better decision on
this. 

Am curious if others find themselves in the same limbo, and what you have
decided to do?

Janis Walker Gilmore
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Re: [LegacyUG] Speaking of alternate names...

2008-02-27 Thread Heather Stovold

People seem to do the AKA's differently - kind of a personal choice thing.

I put married names into AKA's, and I also put in any spelling variations,
nicknames, and total misspellings that I have FOUND used for a person.   I
don't put in spelling variations that are common for the surname, if I
haven't found them listed by that name.

So, for instance, for my ancestor Ellen McCaslin - her name is listed as
Ellen McCaslin   I have:

Ellen Dixon[married name]
Ellen Caslin   [1851 census]
Ellen McCasline  [medical records]
Ellen McCastin  [index to 1881 census - took me a while to find the family
because of that one!)

For Sarah Anne Dixon  (married name McCaslin) - because she was sometimes
called Anne or Ann, there are entries like

Sara Ann Dixon
Sarah Anne McCaslin
Anne Dixon
Annie Dixon
Ann McCaslin

and various other combinations - but again - only the ones that I've seen
her called by in a document






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wrote:

 When you record AKAs do you only record those names you have actually seen
 on a document or do you include POSSIBLE name variations?

 I am just starting to record AKAs and I notice there is a source attached
 to
 each AKA so I am thinking you are supposed to be only recording the name
 variations you have actually seen.

 michele




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Re: [LegacyUG] census clean-up

2008-02-27 Thread Penny

I am in exactly the same place with census sources, Janis.  

I have split them too much in the past and would like to lump them more as I 
clean up these entries and add others.  At present, I'm simply noting the 
census finds I have (that aren't already entered as sources) in the research 
notes section.  I'm going to wait out the nice Millenia folks and hold off 
until version 7 gets here.  

I'll wait with as much patience as I can muster - which isn't what anyone could 
quantify as abundant.  grin

Penny Hayes
  - Original Message - 
  From: Janis Gilmore 
  Subject: [LegacyUG] census clean-up


  I have some serious census sourcing clean-up that needs to be done, to bring 
them into conformity with the Mills templates. I had done a great deal of it 
prior to hearing that Legacy 7 will offer better Mills sourcing capabilities. I 
have been putting the census clean-up on the back burner, so to speak, for some 
time now as I wait for the new version.

   

  I am wondering if I should just abandon the wait, and forge ahead? If I had 
some idea of what the changes will entail, I could make a better decision on 
this. 

   

  Am curious if others find themselves in the same limbo, and what you have 
decided to do?

   

  Janis Walker Gilmore





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Re: [LegacyUG] census clean-up

I have absolutely major census clean-up to do - a 5,000 person database and not 
one census cited well enough for another person to locate the original. The 
ease of citing sources in Legacy is one of the things I like best about it. I 
watched Geoff's video on sources, and, although I do not cite my federal census 
the way he does, I think I've got it about right.

Source List Name - Census 1930 Census
Author - United States of America, Bureau of the Census
Title - 1930 United States Federal Census
Publication Facts - Ancestry.com. [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: The 
Generations Network, Inc., 2002. Original data: United States of America, 
Bureau of the Census. Fifteenth Census of the United States, 1930. Washington, 
D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, 1930. T626, 2,667 rolls.

In my detail for things like name, birth, marriage info, I add the location and 
ED, Sheet, or, in the case of the census event itself, just the ED, Sheet. The 
detail information displays at the end of the publication information.

On Geoff's video, he suggested going to online libraries or other repositories 
and copying and pasting the citation information given for any of your sources 
for which you may not have copied everything you should have. 

I don't think we should be so afraid we might have a period, comma, or date in 
the wrong place that it should keep us from continuing our work. The primary 
purpose of citing sources is so that another person will be able to duplicate 
your work if necessary. Elizabeth Shown Mills may be the final word on the 
subject, but she shouldn't keep you from citing a source out of fear you'll 
have something just not quite right.

Elizabeth

  - Original Message - 
  From: Janis Gilmore 
  To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2008 5:53 AM
  Subject: [LegacyUG] census clean-up


  I have some serious census sourcing clean-up that needs to be done, to bring 
them into conformity with the Mills templates. I had done a great deal of it 
prior to hearing that Legacy 7 will offer better Mills sourcing capabilities. I 
have been putting the census clean-up on the back burner, so to speak, for some 
time now as I wait for the new version.

   

  I am wondering if I should just abandon the wait, and forge ahead? If I had 
some idea of what the changes will entail, I could make a better decision on 
this. 

   

  Am curious if others find themselves in the same limbo, and what you have 
decided to do?

   

  Janis Walker Gilmore

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Re: [LegacyUG] census clean-up

2008-02-27 Thread gcoliver

Janis,

When I first started  with the LUG last July the following was in the Legacy 
news for July 27th 2007  Legacy version 7 is getting closer to its release. 
We're still putting on the finishing touches. After that statement I started 
slowing down entering new people. I learned a little later about the sourceing 
change and I stopped all together. 
Currently I am only entering new information (mostly census data, pictures and 
Vitals) into my Clooz data base so I can print it out later when Legacy 7 
arrives. Clooz will make things go alot faster. I really hate doing things 
twice so I am only doing picture links and non source maintenance right now.

Still in a holding pattern.

G.C. Oliver

 Janis Gilmore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
 I have some serious census sourcing clean-up that needs to be done, to bring
 them into conformity with the Mills templates. I had done a great deal of it
 prior to hearing that Legacy 7 will offer better Mills sourcing
 capabilities. I have been putting the census clean-up on the back burner, so
 to speak, for some time now as I wait for the new version.
 
  
 
 I am wondering if I should just abandon the wait, and forge ahead? If I had
 some idea of what the changes will entail, I could make a better decision on
 this. 
 
  
 
 Am curious if others find themselves in the same limbo, and what you have
 decided to do?
 
  
 
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[LegacyUG] Speaking of alternate names...

2008-02-27 Thread Georgia

My question is how do you decide which of the various names one has 
is in the main entry and which are AKAs if you did not know the 
person?  I have relatives who sometimes use a first name, sometimes a 
middle name (in the census) and I do not have birth records for 
them.  I also have a great grandmother whose grave I have seen (sworn 
by other relatives it is the correct grave) that lists a name 
(Mollie) that is never in the census (Roxie or Roxanne).  I know the 
census lists are the right person because of siblings and 
parents.  How do I decide which name is the main name?


Many thanks

G E O R G I A  H A L L  C H U N
Researching Hall, Thomas, Attaway, Brewer
Ohio and Mississippi




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RE: [LegacyUG] Organising unlinked people

2008-02-27 Thread Kirsten Bowman

Valerie:

There have been some brief discussions on this topic but they might be
disguised under a different subject line.  For my own one-name study I have
a couple of different methods of handling unlinked individuals.

1)  A definite family cluster can, of course, be added to Legacy as a small
unlinked tree.

2)  I keep miscellaneous records in a separate Stray file under My
Documents (Windows).  If there are several records for individuals of the
same given name I create a folder and put all the Patricks, for example,
together.  In a case like yours, if I wanted to analyze the records I would
put them on a spreadsheet.

3)  Someone also suggested grouping strays within Legacy by location.  In
that case you would create an artificial patriarch named perhaps Belfast
Patrick CULLODEN and possibly another called Dublin Patrick CULLODEN.  You
might then put your miscellaneous records under the appropriate patriarch,
perhaps in the Notes.  This could help to sort and organize the records but
wouldn't be of much help in comparing or analyzing in cases where your
people may have moved from one city to another.

Kirsten


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Garton
Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2008 2:53 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Organising unlinked people


I have been through the archives and can not find what I thought was
there.

In the past I think there have been conversations about how you have
deal with unlinked people.

For instance I have 45 entires for Patrick CULLODEN coming from marriage
licences, LDS, directories, entries in Registry of Deeds, entries on
websites, electoral roll, hearth money roll etc.

Many of these people could be the same person.

I would be interested in hearing other peoples thoughts on how to deal
with all these entires eg create a father and add each entry as a child
?

Regards from Valerie in sunny Sydney.
Researching: BEDDY, CULLODEN, DYAS and ROWAN in Belfast, Dublin, Wicklow
 Wexford
Guild of One-Name Studies No: 4825 for CULLODEN  HIGGINSON








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Re: [LegacyUG] Speaking of alternate names...

2008-02-27 Thread Joseph



I use the one which is most reliable   it would be most often used 
in the census, birth, death, and/or marriage records.


Joseph

_
Georgia wrote:
My question is how do you decide which of the various names one has is 
in the/ main/ entry and which are AKAs if you did not know the 
person?  I have relatives who sometimes use a first name, sometimes a 
middle name (in the census) and I do not have birth records for them.  
I also have a great grandmother whose grave I have seen (sworn by 
other relatives it is the correct grave) that lists a name (Mollie) 
that is never in the census (Roxie or Roxanne).  I know the census 
lists are the right person because of siblings and parents.  How do I 
decide which name is the main name?


Many thanks

G E O R G I A  H A L L  C H U N
Researching Hall, Thomas, Attaway, Brewer
Ohio and Mississippi

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RE: [LegacyUG] census clean-up

2008-02-27 Thread Kirsten Bowman

Janis:

This wait for v.7 could bring back the Limbo as a dance fad!

I was also re-working sources but stopped.  Now I'm picking around the edges
by cleaning up locations, grouping and sorting Master Sources, correcting
repositories, and other little housekeeping chores that possibly won't be
affected by the new sourcing templates.

Kirsten

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To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] census clean-up


I have some serious census sourcing clean-up that needs to be done, to bring
them into conformity with the Mills templates. I had done a great deal of it
prior to hearing that Legacy 7 will offer better Mills sourcing
capabilities. I have been putting the census clean-up on the back burner, so
to speak, for some time now as I wait for the new version.

I am wondering if I should just abandon the wait, and forge ahead? If I had
some idea of what the changes will entail, I could make a better decision on
this.

Am curious if others find themselves in the same limbo, and what you have
decided to do?

Janis Walker Gilmore





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Re: [LegacyUG] census clean-up

2008-02-27 Thread Randolph Clark

What happens then when you find another family in the 1930 census? Don't you
run the risk of having the details from the first source overwrite those of
the second?

On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 11:30 AM, Elizabeth Richardson 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  I have absolutely *major* census clean-up to do - a 5,000 person database
 and not one census cited well enough for another person to locate the
 original. The ease of citing sources in Legacy is one of the things I like
 best about it. I watched Geoff's video on sources, and, although I do not
 cite my federal census the way he does, I think I've got it about right.

 *Source List Name* - Census 1930 Census
 *Author* - United States of America, Bureau of the Census
 *Title* - 1930 United States Federal Census
 *Publication Facts* - Ancestry.com. [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA:
 The Generations Network, Inc., 2002. Original data: United States of
 America, Bureau of the Census. Fifteenth Census of the United States, 1930.
 Washington, D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, 1930.
 T626, 2,667 rolls.

 In my detail for things like name, birth, marriage info, I add the
 location and ED, Sheet, or, in the case of the census event itself, just the
 ED, Sheet. The detail information displays at the end of the publication
 information.

 On Geoff's video, he suggested going to online libraries or other
 repositories and copying and pasting the citation information given for any
 of your sources for which you may not have copied everything you should
 have.

 I don't think we should be so afraid we might have a period, comma, or
 date in the wrong place that it should keep us from continuing our work. The
 primary purpose of citing sources is so that another person will be able to
 duplicate your work if necessary. Elizabeth Shown Mills may be the final
 word on the subject, but she shouldn't keep you from citing a source out of
 fear you'll have something just not quite right.

 Elizabeth


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 *From:* Janis Gilmore [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 *To:* LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
 *Sent:* Wednesday, February 27, 2008 5:53 AM
 *Subject:* [LegacyUG] census clean-up

  I have some serious census sourcing clean-up that needs to be done, to
 bring them into conformity with the Mills templates. I had done a great deal
 of it prior to hearing that Legacy 7 will offer better Mills sourcing
 capabilities. I have been putting the census clean-up on the back burner, so
 to speak, for some time now as I wait for the new version.



 I am wondering if I should just abandon the wait, and forge ahead? If I
 had some idea of what the changes will entail, I could make a better
 decision on this.



 Am curious if others find themselves in the same limbo, and what you have
 decided to do?



 Janis Walker Gilmore

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Re: [LegacyUG] Speaking of alternate names...

2008-02-27 Thread Penny

Personally, I record the ones I know were in use, even though they don't 
show up on any official documents.


Two examples:
I was researching an uncle who was U.S. Army tank commander, KIA in Europe 
in WWII.  As you know, most of those official records were destroyed in a 
fire.  Someone in Arthur Erwin Hayes' tank batallion wrote a history of 
their unit; but I'd never have found my uncle in it if I had only searched 
for Arthur E. Hayes.  I found him because I was aware he was known by 
everyone both in and out of the family as Bud Hayes and that's how he was 
referred to in the book.  Sometimes the un-official records can tell you as 
much as the official ones!


My father's birth name was Orval; his nick name was Punch.  We were at a 
family reunion when he and his cousins were in their 70s.  Somebody (I 
forget who) referred to him as Orval and two other cousins' mouths dropped 
open.  They had never known what his real name was until then.


Just another take on it to consider.  I have several people in my lineage 
who fit this situation; your mileage may vary.

Penny


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From: Michele Lewis [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Subject: [LegacyUG] Speaking of alternate names...


When you record AKAs do you only record those names you have actually seen 
on a document or do you include POSSIBLE name variations?


I am just starting to record AKAs and I notice there is a source attached to 
each AKA so I am thinking you are supposed to be only recording the name 
variations you have actually seen.


michele




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Re: [LegacyUG] census clean-up

There's a difference between Source Detail and Source Detail Text.  The 
first is for the source itself, the second for an individual instance of 
the first.


JL
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http://www3.telus.net/Jgen/jlog.html

Randolph Clark wrote:
What happens then when you find another family in the 1930 census? 
Don't you run the risk of having the details from the first source 
overwrite those of the second?


On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 11:30 AM, Elizabeth Richardson 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


I have absolutely *major* census clean-up to do - a 5,000 person
database and not one census cited well enough for another person
to locate the original. The ease of citing sources in Legacy is
one of the things I like best about it. I watched Geoff's video on
sources, and, although I do not cite my federal census the way he
does, I think I've got it about right.
 
_Source List Name_ - Census 1930 Census

_Author_ - United States of America, Bureau of the Census
_Title_ - 1930 United States Federal Census
_Publication Facts_ - Ancestry.com http://Ancestry.com.
[database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: The Generations Network, Inc.,
2002. Original data: United States of America, Bureau of the
Census. Fifteenth Census of the United States, 1930. Washington,
D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, 1930. T626,
2,667 rolls.
 
In my detail for things like name, birth, marriage info, I add the

location and ED, Sheet, or, in the case of the census event
itself, just the ED, Sheet. The detail information displays at the
end of the publication information.
 
On Geoff's video, he suggested going to online libraries or other

repositories and copying and pasting the citation information
given for any of your sources for which you may not have copied
everything you should have.
 
I don't think we should be so afraid we might have a period,

comma, or date in the wrong place that it should keep us from
continuing our work. The primary purpose of citing sources is so
that another person will be able to duplicate your work if
necessary. Elizabeth Shown Mills may be the final word on the
subject, but she shouldn't keep you from citing a source out of
fear you'll have something just not quite right.
 
Elizabeth
 


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*To:* LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
mailto:LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
*Sent:* Wednesday, February 27, 2008 5:53 AM
*Subject:* [LegacyUG] census clean-up

I have some serious census sourcing clean-up that needs to be
done, to bring them into conformity with the Mills templates.
I had done a great deal of it prior to hearing that Legacy 7
will offer better Mills sourcing capabilities. I have been
putting the census clean-up on the back burner, so to speak,
for some time now as I wait for the new version.

 


I am wondering if I should just abandon the wait, and forge
ahead? If I had some idea of what the changes will entail, I
could make a better decision on this.

 


Am curious if others find themselves in the same limbo, and
what you have decided to do?

 


Janis Walker Gilmore

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Re: [LegacyUG] Organising unlinked people

2008-02-27 Thread Jana Robinson

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From: Keith Bage [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2008 12:29:22 PM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Organising unlinked people

Valerie,

I am a fellow member of the Guild of One-Name studies and wonder if you have
asked this question on their forum. You may get answers there more in line
with recording one name studies.

Whilst adding in Legacy is one possibility is is possibly not the most ideal
place to do this. Most one namers tend to use a second package more focused
on recording such large amounts of data and use packages like Legacy purely
for the recording of trees.

This is pretty much what I do myself and it works well though there is an
element of double entry.

If you wish to discuss this further please drop me a line or stop by the
GOONS Forum.

Regards

Keith Bage
BAGE one-name study (Goons registered #4451)
www.bage.org.uk

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 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
 Valerie Garton
 Sent: 27 February 2008 10:53
 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
 Subject: [LegacyUG] Organising unlinked people

 I have been through the archives and can not find what I thought was
 there.

 In the past I think there have been conversations about how you have
 deal with unlinked people.

 For instance I have 45 entires for Patrick CULLODEN coming from
 marriage
 licences, LDS, directories, entries in Registry of Deeds, entries on
 websites, electoral roll, hearth money roll etc.

 Many of these people could be the same person.

 I would be interested in hearing other peoples thoughts on how to deal
 with all these entires eg create a father and add each entry as a child
 ?

 Regards from Valerie in sunny Sydney.
 Researching: BEDDY, CULLODEN, DYAS and ROWAN in Belfast, Dublin,
 Wicklow
  Wexford
 Guild of One-Name Studies No: 4825 for CULLODEN  HIGGINSON

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RE: [LegacyUG] Organising unlinked people

2008-02-27 Thread Keith Bage

Valerie,

I am a fellow member of the Guild of One-Name studies and wonder if you have
asked this question on their forum. You may get answers there more in line
with recording one name studies.

Whilst adding in Legacy is one possibility is is possibly not the most ideal
place to do this. Most one namers tend to use a second package more focused
on recording such large amounts of data and use packages like Legacy purely
for the recording of trees.

This is pretty much what I do myself and it works well though there is an
element of double entry.

If you wish to discuss this further please drop me a line or stop by the
GOONS Forum.

Regards


Keith Bage
BAGE one-name study (Goons registered #4451)
www.bage.org.uk


 

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 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
 Valerie Garton
 Sent: 27 February 2008 10:53
 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
 Subject: [LegacyUG] Organising unlinked people
 
 I have been through the archives and can not find what I thought was
 there.
 
 In the past I think there have been conversations about how you have
 deal with unlinked people.
 
 For instance I have 45 entires for Patrick CULLODEN coming from
 marriage
 licences, LDS, directories, entries in Registry of Deeds, entries on
 websites, electoral roll, hearth money roll etc.
 
 Many of these people could be the same person.
 
 I would be interested in hearing other peoples thoughts on how to deal
 with all these entires eg create a father and add each entry as a child
 ?
 
 Regards from Valerie in sunny Sydney.
 Researching: BEDDY, CULLODEN, DYAS and ROWAN in Belfast, Dublin,
 Wicklow
  Wexford
 Guild of One-Name Studies No: 4825 for CULLODEN  HIGGINSON
 
 
 
 
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RE: [LegacyUG] Speaking of alternate names...

2008-02-27 Thread Keith Bage

I would record only names that I have documented evidence of, with the
exception of adding the married name of females.

I would not add all the possible variations of spellings for instance,
unless verified as actually being used or your name list will be swamped.

Regards

Keith

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 To: Legacy E-Mail List
 Subject: [LegacyUG] Speaking of alternate names...
 
 When you record AKAs do you only record those names you have actually
 seen
 on a document or do you include POSSIBLE name variations?
 
 I am just starting to record AKAs and I notice there is a source
 attached to
 each AKA so I am thinking you are supposed to be only recording the
 name
 variations you have actually seen.
 
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Re: [LegacyUG] census clean-up

2008-02-27 Thread Michele Lewis

I have been wanting the Version 7 improved source templates but at the same 
time dreading it!  I will end out having to look up a gazillion census 
records just to get all of the required info off of them that I didn't get 
the first time around :) :) :)


michele




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Re: [LegacyUG] census clean-up

I don't enter anything in Source Detail Text. I enter detail in the Source 
Detail through the Source Clipboard. When I save my source to the clipboard, 
in this case the 1930 census, it is set up to prompt for detail. I can keep 
the detail that is already entered or I can change it. I am currently making 
entries for 294 individuals. The detail differs from family to family.


Elizabeth
researching the descendants of William and Sarah (Patterson) Thompson

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To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2008 9:46 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] census clean-up


There's a difference between Source Detail and Source Detail Text.  The 
first is for the source itself, the second for an individual instance of 
the first.


JL
JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists
http://www3.telus.net/Jgen/jlog.html

Randolph Clark wrote:
What happens then when you find another family in the 1930 census? Don't 
you run the risk of having the details from the first source overwrite 
those of the second?


On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 11:30 AM, Elizabeth Richardson 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


I have absolutely *major* census clean-up to do - a 5,000 person
database and not one census cited well enough for another person
to locate the original. The ease of citing sources in Legacy is
one of the things I like best about it. I watched Geoff's video on
sources, and, although I do not cite my federal census the way he
does, I think I've got it about right.
 _Source List Name_ - Census 1930 Census
_Author_ - United States of America, Bureau of the Census
_Title_ - 1930 United States Federal Census
_Publication Facts_ - Ancestry.com http://Ancestry.com.
[database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: The Generations Network, Inc.,
2002. Original data: United States of America, Bureau of the
Census. Fifteenth Census of the United States, 1930. Washington,
D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, 1930. T626,
2,667 rolls.
 In my detail for things like name, birth, marriage info, I add the
location and ED, Sheet, or, in the case of the census event
itself, just the ED, Sheet. The detail information displays at the
end of the publication information.
 On Geoff's video, he suggested going to online libraries or other
repositories and copying and pasting the citation information
given for any of your sources for which you may not have copied
everything you should have.
 I don't think we should be so afraid we might have a period,
comma, or date in the wrong place that it should keep us from
continuing our work. The primary purpose of citing sources is so
that another person will be able to duplicate your work if
necessary. Elizabeth Shown Mills may be the final word on the
subject, but she shouldn't keep you from citing a source out of
fear you'll have something just not quite right.
 Elizabeth

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*To:* LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
mailto:LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
*Sent:* Wednesday, February 27, 2008 5:53 AM
*Subject:* [LegacyUG] census clean-up

I have some serious census sourcing clean-up that needs to be
done, to bring them into conformity with the Mills templates.
I had done a great deal of it prior to hearing that Legacy 7
will offer better Mills sourcing capabilities. I have been
putting the census clean-up on the back burner, so to speak,
for some time now as I wait for the new version.


I am wondering if I should just abandon the wait, and forge
ahead? If I had some idea of what the changes will entail, I
could make a better decision on this.


Am curious if others find themselves in the same limbo, and
what you have decided to do?


Janis Walker Gilmore

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RE: [LegacyUG] Relationship Indicator problem

2008-02-27 Thread Tim Rosenlof

That is a pedigree collapse. My 2 children are 8th, 9th, 13th and 14th
cousin from each other. Then it works it way back through my wifes line.
It took me hours if not days to unlink different ancestors to find what
you are looking for the Look at the help file under relationship
calculator.

-Tim

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 Of Richard Van Wasshnova
 Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2008 11:06 PM
 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
 Subject: [LegacyUG] Relationship Indicator problem
 
  
 A couple years back I noticed a Relationship Indicator 
 problem (or not).
 
 I showed a 9th Great-Grandfather in Family View. When I 
 clicked on his 
 parents I got a 8th Great-Granduncle married to a 10th 
 Great-Grandmother. 
 The 8th Great-Granduncle was also a 10th Great-Grandfather 
 but his brother 
 was a 8th Great-Grandfather which made all brothers 8th 
 Great-Granduncle. Genetically a 8th Great-Granduncle is 
 closer than a 10th Great-Grandfather 
 so I didn't consider it a bug to indicate that way.
 
 At the time I exported to a Legacy file of all ancestors but a couple 
 indicated Xth Great-Granduncle. Now all ancestor's 
 Relationship Indicator 
 show as such not as Great-Granduncle.
 
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Re: [LegacyUG] census clean-up

I guess I didn't really understand. I think you mean that in the Source 
Detail Text I could add the information to a 1930 census entry, for 
instance, Line 24. Have you run into many source types where you would use 
this additional layer of detail?


Elizabeth
Researching the descendants of William and Sarah (Patterson) Thompson

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To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2008 12:03 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] census clean-up


I don't enter anything in Source Detail Text. I enter detail in the Source 
Detail through the Source Clipboard. When I save my source to the 
clipboard, in this case the 1930 census, it is set up to prompt for detail. 
I can keep the detail that is already entered or I can change it. I am 
currently making entries for 294 individuals. The detail differs from 
family to family.


Elizabeth
researching the descendants of William and Sarah (Patterson) Thompson

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To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2008 9:46 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] census clean-up


There's a difference between Source Detail and Source Detail Text.  The 
first is for the source itself, the second for an individual instance of 
the first.


JL
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Randolph Clark wrote:
What happens then when you find another family in the 1930 census? Don't 
you run the risk of having the details from the first source overwrite 
those of the second?


On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 11:30 AM, Elizabeth Richardson 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


I have absolutely *major* census clean-up to do - a 5,000 person
database and not one census cited well enough for another person
to locate the original. The ease of citing sources in Legacy is
one of the things I like best about it. I watched Geoff's video on
sources, and, although I do not cite my federal census the way he
does, I think I've got it about right.
 _Source List Name_ - Census 1930 Census
_Author_ - United States of America, Bureau of the Census
_Title_ - 1930 United States Federal Census
_Publication Facts_ - Ancestry.com http://Ancestry.com.
[database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: The Generations Network, Inc.,
2002. Original data: United States of America, Bureau of the
Census. Fifteenth Census of the United States, 1930. Washington,
D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, 1930. T626,
2,667 rolls.
 In my detail for things like name, birth, marriage info, I add the
location and ED, Sheet, or, in the case of the census event
itself, just the ED, Sheet. The detail information displays at the
end of the publication information.
 On Geoff's video, he suggested going to online libraries or other
repositories and copying and pasting the citation information
given for any of your sources for which you may not have copied
everything you should have.
 I don't think we should be so afraid we might have a period,
comma, or date in the wrong place that it should keep us from
continuing our work. The primary purpose of citing sources is so
that another person will be able to duplicate your work if
necessary. Elizabeth Shown Mills may be the final word on the
subject, but she shouldn't keep you from citing a source out of
fear you'll have something just not quite right.
 Elizabeth

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*Sent:* Wednesday, February 27, 2008 5:53 AM
*Subject:* [LegacyUG] census clean-up

I have some serious census sourcing clean-up that needs to be
done, to bring them into conformity with the Mills templates.
I had done a great deal of it prior to hearing that Legacy 7
will offer better Mills sourcing capabilities. I have been
putting the census clean-up on the back burner, so to speak,
for some time now as I wait for the new version.


I am wondering if I should just abandon the wait, and forge
ahead? If I had some idea of what the changes will entail, I
could make a better decision on this.


Am curious if others find themselves in the same limbo, and
what you have decided to do?


Janis Walker Gilmore

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Re: [LegacyUG] Relationship Indicator problem

2008-02-27 Thread Joseph



Tim, you've GOT to be from ARKANSAS!!!   GRIN


_
Tim Rosenlof wrote:

That is a pedigree collapse. My 2 children are 8th, 9th, 13th and 14th
cousin from each other. Then it works it way back through my wifes line.
It took me hours if not days to unlink different ancestors to find what
you are looking for the Look at the help file under relationship
calculator.

-Tim

  

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Of Richard Van Wasshnova

Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2008 11:06 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Relationship Indicator problem

 
A couple years back I noticed a Relationship Indicator 
problem (or not).


I showed a 9th Great-Grandfather in Family View. When I 
clicked on his 
parents I got a 8th Great-Granduncle married to a 10th 
Great-Grandmother. 
The 8th Great-Granduncle was also a 10th Great-Grandfather 
but his brother 
was a 8th Great-Grandfather which made all brothers 8th 
Great-Granduncle. Genetically a 8th Great-Granduncle is 
closer than a 10th Great-Grandfather 
so I didn't consider it a bug to indicate that way.


At the time I exported to a Legacy file of all ancestors but a couple 
indicated Xth Great-Granduncle. Now all ancestor's 
Relationship Indicator 
show as such not as Great-Granduncle.


Richard




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[LegacyUG] Source Detail

This has been an interesting discussion on citing sources. I'm still working 
toward a better understanding of the way Legacy works. I decided to look at the 
help file about the Source Detail and Source Detail Text and found the 
following:

You might find a book or bible that contains hundreds of family members.  The 
location of each piece of information for each individual should be recorded.  
Rather than record the entire source description hundreds (or thousands) of 
times, taking up huge amounts of storage space, it is much more efficient to 
enter a general source description once, point to it in the master list and 
record just the unique information for each piece's place within that source.

Source Detail: This is usually a page number or range of page numbers.  It can 
also include the item number of a microfilm roll, a line number entry, etc.

Detail Text:  Use this field to enter the actual text found in the master 
source pertaining to this citation.  This is an optional field and is not 
included in the sources portion of reports.

So, when you cite a Master Source, Legacy intends for you to have some detail 
that would be unique for that specific event, but that you could cite that same 
Master Source other times, with different detail.

Elizabeth
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Re: [LegacyUG] Source Detail

2008-02-27 Thread JRAYMOND651

I'm confused.  Is there no way to include  the detail text of the source in 
the sources portion of a given report or am I  missing something?

Jon Raymond
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Re: [LegacyUG] Source Detail

It might depend on which report, (I don't know them all) but for 
instance a Desc Book report does not include that option.  If you want 
to print out a list of sources that include the Detail Text, which might 
be for another genealogist, not just a regular reader, you can do that 
with a Source Citation report.  Under Books/Other in the report options.


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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm confused.  Is there no way to include  the detail text of the source in 
the sources portion of a given report or am I  missing something?


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Re: [LegacyUG] Source Detail

2008-02-27 Thread JRAYMOND651

JL,
That the detail text doesn't appear on  all reports makes no sense to me.  
If one adds a source citation to an  event and adds detail text, there is a 
check box that states: add this Text  to the Source Citation on Reports.  
The implication here is that the  detail text will appear in **all** reports. 
 
If that is not the case,  then the user's manual needs to be clarified.

Frankly, I'd want that  detail text to appear in all reports.

Sherry, can you help us  here?

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RE: [LegacyUG] census clean-up

Elizabeth,

For me the thing is that the more I have studied the Mills sourcing, the
more I agree with it. It is somewhat simpler, and more to the point (for me)
than the recommended ancestry source. 

Your source (below) didnt specify state and county, so I am thinking that
you are a lumper, whereas I am a splitter  more of a splitter than I
would like to be.

For me it would be more like this:

Source list name: Campbell, James B. - Census 1930 Howell Co MO
Author: [none]
Title: [none]
Publication facts: 1930 U.S. census, Howell County, Missouri, population
schedule, Chapel Township, ED 46-3, p. 4B (penned), dwelling 89, family 89.
James B. Campbell household : digital image by subscription,
«i»Ancestry.com«/i» (http://www.ancestry.com : accessed 31 July 2007);
citing National Archives microfilm T626, roll 1191.

Resulting in this output:

1. 1930 U.S. census, Howell County, Missouri, population schedule,
Chapel Township, ED 46-3, p. 4B (penned), dwelling 89, family 89. James B.
Campbell household : digital image by subscription, «i»Ancestry.com«/i»
(http://www.ancestry.com : accessed 31 July 2007); citing National Archives
microfilm T626, roll 1191.

I agree with you- I don't want to be obsessive, but I do desire clarity, in
assembling all necessary elements for finding the source again, and
eliminating all unnecessary elements (like the number of rolls in the T626
microfilm).

Ah, gee, what a tough task, huh? And all of us working our way that
direction, according to our own lights - and all of us being regarded by
most of the rest of the world as complete nuts. I know none of my friends
really get it at all. I am lucky to have my dad in my corner, the guy who
got me started.

Janis

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Elizabeth
Richardson
Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2008 11:30 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] census clean-up

I have absolutely major census clean-up to do - a 5,000 person database and
not one census cited well enough for another person to locate the original.
The ease of citing sources in Legacy is one of the things I like best about
it. I watched Geoff's video on sources, and, although I do not cite my
federal census the way he does, I think I've got it about right.
 
Source List Name - Census 1930 Census
Author - United States of America, Bureau of the Census
Title - 1930 United States Federal Census
Publication Facts - Ancestry.com. [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: The
Generations Network, Inc., 2002. Original data: United States of America,
Bureau of the Census. Fifteenth Census of the United States, 1930.
Washington, D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, 1930. T626,
2,667 rolls.
 
In my detail for things like name, birth, marriage info, I add the location
and ED, Sheet, or, in the case of the census event itself, just the ED,
Sheet. The detail information displays at the end of the publication
information.
 
On Geoff's video, he suggested going to online libraries or other
repositories and copying and pasting the citation information given for any
of your sources for which you may not have copied everything you should
have. 
 
I don't think we should be so afraid we might have a period, comma, or date
in the wrong place that it should keep us from continuing our work. The
primary purpose of citing sources is so that another person will be able to
duplicate your work if necessary. Elizabeth Shown Mills may be the final
word on the subject, but she shouldn't keep you from citing a source out of
fear you'll have something just not quite right.
 
Elizabeth
 
- Original Message - 
From: Janis Gilmore 
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com 
Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2008 5:53 AM
Subject: [LegacyUG] census clean-up

I have some serious census sourcing clean-up that needs to be done, to bring
them into conformity with the Mills templates. I had done a great deal of it
prior to hearing that Legacy 7 will offer better Mills sourcing
capabilities. I have been putting the census clean-up on the back burner, so
to speak, for some time now as I wait for the new version.

I am wondering if I should just abandon the wait, and forge ahead? If I had
some idea of what the changes will entail, I could make a better decision on
this. 

Am curious if others find themselves in the same limbo, and what you have
decided to do?

Janis Walker Gilmore
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Re: [LegacyUG] Relationship Indicator problem


At 03:06 PM 27/02/2008, you wrote:


A couple years back I noticed a Relationship Indicator problem (or not).

I showed a 9th Great-Grandfather in Family View. When I clicked on 
his parents I got a 8th Great-Granduncle married to a 10th 
Great-Grandmother. The 8th Great-Granduncle was also a 10th 
Great-Grandfather but his brother was a 8th Great-Grandfather which 
made all brothers 8th Great-Granduncle.
Genetically a 8th Great-Granduncle is closer than a 10th 
Great-Grandfather so I didn't consider it a bug to indicate that way.


At the time I exported to a Legacy file of all ancestors but a 
couple indicated Xth Great-Granduncle. Now all ancestor's 
Relationship Indicator show as such not as Great-Granduncle.


Richard


Hi Richard,

What do you mean by: Now all ancestor's Relationship Indicator show 
as such not as Great-Granduncle.?
Are you saying that the relationships showing are incorrect or simply 
that a different relationship is being shown?

Have you reset relationships?

Cathy 





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RE: [LegacyUG] census clean-up

Whoops. Well, there you go. Misplaced period causes wrong format. I have
just fixed it. 

(A good argument for pdf-ing reports before printing reports...)

The source should have looked like this:

1. 1930 U.S. census, Howell County, Missouri, population schedule,
Chapel Township, ED 46-3, p. 4B (penned), dwelling 89, family 89, James B.
Campbell household : digital image by subscription, «i»Ancestry.com«/i»
(http://www.ancestry.com : accessed 31 July 2007); citing National Archives
microfilm T626, roll 1191.

Janis

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Janis
Gilmore
Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2008 7:19 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] census clean-up

Elizabeth,

For me the thing is that the more I have studied the Mills sourcing, the
more I agree with it. It is somewhat simpler, and more to the point (for me)
than the recommended ancestry source. 

Your source (below) didnt specify state and county, so I am thinking that
you are a lumper, whereas I am a splitter  more of a splitter than I
would like to be.

For me it would be more like this:

Source list name: Campbell, James B. - Census 1930 Howell Co MO
Author: [none]
Title: [none]
Publication facts: 1930 U.S. census, Howell County, Missouri, population
schedule, Chapel Township, ED 46-3, p. 4B (penned), dwelling 89, family 89.
James B. Campbell household : digital image by subscription,
«i»Ancestry.com«/i» (http://www.ancestry.com : accessed 31 July 2007);
citing National Archives microfilm T626, roll 1191.

Resulting in this output:

1. 1930 U.S. census, Howell County, Missouri, population schedule,
Chapel Township, ED 46-3, p. 4B (penned), dwelling 89, family 89. James B.
Campbell household : digital image by subscription, «i»Ancestry.com«/i»
(http://www.ancestry.com : accessed 31 July 2007); citing National Archives
microfilm T626, roll 1191.

I agree with you- I don't want to be obsessive, but I do desire clarity, in
assembling all necessary elements for finding the source again, and
eliminating all unnecessary elements (like the number of rolls in the T626
microfilm).

Ah, gee, what a tough task, huh? And all of us working our way that
direction, according to our own lights - and all of us being regarded by
most of the rest of the world as complete nuts. I know none of my friends
really get it at all. I am lucky to have my dad in my corner, the guy who
got me started.

Janis

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Elizabeth
Richardson
Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2008 11:30 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] census clean-up

I have absolutely major census clean-up to do - a 5,000 person database and
not one census cited well enough for another person to locate the original.
The ease of citing sources in Legacy is one of the things I like best about
it. I watched Geoff's video on sources, and, although I do not cite my
federal census the way he does, I think I've got it about right.
 
Source List Name - Census 1930 Census
Author - United States of America, Bureau of the Census
Title - 1930 United States Federal Census
Publication Facts - Ancestry.com. [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: The
Generations Network, Inc., 2002. Original data: United States of America,
Bureau of the Census. Fifteenth Census of the United States, 1930.
Washington, D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, 1930. T626,
2,667 rolls.
 
In my detail for things like name, birth, marriage info, I add the location
and ED, Sheet, or, in the case of the census event itself, just the ED,
Sheet. The detail information displays at the end of the publication
information.
 
On Geoff's video, he suggested going to online libraries or other
repositories and copying and pasting the citation information given for any
of your sources for which you may not have copied everything you should
have. 
 
I don't think we should be so afraid we might have a period, comma, or date
in the wrong place that it should keep us from continuing our work. The
primary purpose of citing sources is so that another person will be able to
duplicate your work if necessary. Elizabeth Shown Mills may be the final
word on the subject, but she shouldn't keep you from citing a source out of
fear you'll have something just not quite right.
 
Elizabeth
 
- Original Message - 
From: Janis Gilmore 
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com 
Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2008 5:53 AM
Subject: [LegacyUG] census clean-up

I have some serious census sourcing clean-up that needs to be done, to bring
them into conformity with the Mills templates. I had done a great deal of it
prior to hearing that Legacy 7 will offer better Mills sourcing
capabilities. I have been putting the census clean-up on the back burner, so
to speak, for some time now as I wait for the new version.

I am wondering if I should just abandon the wait, and forge ahead? If I

RE: [LegacyUG] Source Detail

Thats true. But for a Bible detailing many people, I would be more likely
to create a master source, transcribe the data, then scan and attach the
original pages as jpgs. As I attached this very complete source to a
variety of people, I might, for convenience, lift the particular sentence or
paragraph pertinent to that individual, and put it in the source detail text
box.

For a book, of course, I would create a master source for the book and
author, and then use page numbers and source detail text to the individual.

Janis

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Richardson
Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2008 6:27 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Source Detail

This has been an interesting discussion on citing sources. I'm still working
toward a better understanding of the way Legacy works. I decided to look at
the help file about the Source Detail and Source Detail Text and found the
following:
 
You might find a book or bible that contains hundreds of family members. 
The location of each piece of information for each individual should be
recorded.  Rather than record the entire source description hundreds (or
thousands) of times, taking up huge amounts of storage space, it is much
more efficient to enter a general source description once, point to it in
the master list and record just the unique information for each piece's
place within that source.
 
Source Detail: This is usually a page number or range of page numbers.  It
can also include the item number of a microfilm roll, a line number entry,
etc.
 
Detail Text:  Use this field to enter the actual text found in the master
source pertaining to this citation.  This is an optional field and is not
included in the sources portion of reports.
 
So, when you cite a Master Source, Legacy intends for you to have some
detail that would be unique for that specific event, but that you could cite
that same Master Source other times, with different detail.
 
Elizabeth
researching the descendants of William and Sarah (Patterson) Thompson
 
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Re: [LegacyUG] Source Detail

2008-02-27 Thread Don Cook

The determination to include the text on reports is made on the screen 
where the Master or Detail text is entered, not on Report Options.

Don

- Original Message - 
From: JLB [EMAIL PROTECTED]


It might depend on which report, (I don't know them all) but for 
instance a Desc Book report does not include that option.  If you want 
to print out a list of sources that include the Detail Text, which 
might be for another genealogist, not just a regular reader, you can 
do that with a Source Citation report.  Under Books/Other in the 
report options.


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm confused.  Is there no way to include  the detail text of the 
source in the sources portion of a given report or am I  missing 
something?





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Re: [LegacyUG] Speaking of alternate names...

2008-02-27 Thread Wynthner

As Leto II once said:

Once you start including undocumented possibilities in your database you enter 
a neverending world of parallel universes; each of which will be replete with 
possible errors. Down that path lies madness!

(GRIN!)



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Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2008 8:44:24 AM
Subject: [LegacyUG] Speaking of alternate names...

When you record AKAs do you only record those names you have actually seen 
on a document or do you include POSSIBLE name variations?

I am just starting to record AKAs and I notice there is a source attached to 
each AKA so I am thinking you are supposed to be only recording the name 
variations you have actually seen.

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Re: [LegacyUG] Source Detail

There is a box to check on the Detail Text tab Add this Text to the Source 
Citation on Reports, but you would have to check that on each entry. There 
is no general provision for it's inclusion - at least not now. Keep in mind 
I'm referencing the Detail Text tab of the Detail information, not the Text 
of Source tab of a Master Source.


Elizabeth
researching the descendants of William and Sarah (Patterson) Thompson


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I'm confused.  Is there no way to include  the detail text of the source 
in

the sources portion of a given report or am I  missing something?

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RE: [LegacyUG] census clean-up

Me, too, Michelle. Honestly, I write the most meticulous sources these days
(well - I am still learning, but I really work hard at it). But I
occasionally run across an old one that says something like:

Howell Co Mo marriage license. Viewed it.

Didn't copy it, didn't record the specific data other than date (spelling of
names, etc), didn't do anything but lamely write down that I saw it. Cringe,
cringe, cringe. Not to mention all those census rolls I did not record.
Can't wait to get at them. Some days I decide I'm just going to power
through, and forget waiting for V. 7. Then my more reasonable side pulls me
back. 

If I don't like the new sourcing features, I'm really going to regret the
lost time.

(This sounds whiney. Sorry. I really like Legacy. I used TMG for several
years before moving over to Legacy, largely due to an odd circumstance not
worth detailing, not a decision that I made. Now I prefer Legacy, not
because it is more powerful, which it probably isn't, but because it has a
more grown-up, less choppy interface. I do still love the TMG individual
screen, which is more atomic in nature.)

Janis


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I have been wanting the Version 7 improved source templates but at the same 
time dreading it!  I will end out having to look up a gazillion census 
records just to get all of the required info off of them that I didn't get 
the first time around :) :) :)

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RE: [LegacyUG] Source Detail

I don't want that detail text to appear in a formal document, because I want
my sources to conform to convention. For my own in-house reports, however, I
do kind of like to see all that detail, despite the ridiculous amounts of
paper that it might require

Janis

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JL,
That the detail text doesn't appear on  all reports makes no sense to me.

If one adds a source citation to an  event and adds detail text, there is
a 
check box that states: add this Text  to the Source Citation on Reports.  
The implication here is that the  detail text will appear in **all**
reports.  
If that is not the case,  then the user's manual needs to be clarified.

Frankly, I'd want that  detail text to appear in all reports.

Sherry, can you help us  here?

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RE: [LegacyUG] Source Detail

On the Source Detail text tab, there is a box near the bottom, which you can
check to add that detail to the source, or uncheck to prevent that text from
being attached to the Source.

Janis

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I'm confused.  Is there no way to include  the detail text of the source
in 
the sources portion of a given report or am I  missing something?

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Re: [LegacyUG] Source Detail

I looked again.  There's an add to the Source Citation on Reports on 
each screen (Information, Text, Comments, Pictures.)  Each one would 
have to be checked to include everything into Sources and it does work.


JL
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JL,
That the detail text doesn't appear on  all reports makes no sense to me.  
If one adds a source citation to an  event and adds detail text, there is a 
check box that states: add this Text  to the Source Citation on Reports.  
The implication here is that the  detail text will appear in **all** reports.  
If that is not the case,  then the user's manual needs to be clarified.


Frankly, I'd want that  detail text to appear in all reports.

Sherry, can you help us  here?

Jon Raymond
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Re: [LegacyUG] Source Detail

You're right.  I hadn't thought of that.  Nevertheless, the source 
detail text does not show up on a Desc Book report under Sources.  
However, since the Source Detail Text is what I've already put under 
Notes (General, Birth, Death, etc) I would not want it also showing at 
the end of a report.  Still, there appears to be a choice, and it 
doesn't function the way you'd think.


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JL,
That the detail text doesn't appear on  all reports makes no sense to me.  
If one adds a source citation to an  event and adds detail text, there is a 
check box that states: add this Text  to the Source Citation on Reports.  
The implication here is that the  detail text will appear in **all** reports.  
If that is not the case,  then the user's manual needs to be clarified.


Frankly, I'd want that  detail text to appear in all reports.

Sherry, can you help us  here?

Jon Raymond
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[LegacyUG] A Census Question

2008-02-27 Thread GeoSci

Depending upon where I get my information - US Census rcords seem to
have very different numbers.  For some - the only numbers I could get
might read:

Series T623, Roll 1393, Page 59

while for another it might read:

Family History Library # 1255207, NA Film # T9-1207, Page 523D

and yet for another:

Roll T9-1043, Page 294C

Obviously these are from different sources (Heritage Quest,
FamilySearchLabs, Family Search, Lost Cousins, etc.) - but are they
coordinated anywhere?  Which of these are needed and which are a waste
of time and energy?  I do have State, County and Town (or Township) -
so that detail is there...

Advise?  Clarification?

Thanks
Keith
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Re: [LegacyUG] census clean-up

The State and County are included as part of the citation, but at the end of 
the entry if the citation refers to an event other than the census event 
itself. The census event includes the state and county, so I see no reason to 
duplicate that information in the source, as a researcher would have to be 
rather dense not to look in the appropriate location for an individual, for 
instance, who is reported as being on the census in Brea, Orange, California. 

Thus, the source for an individual's birth as it prints on a report would 
appear as:

United States of America, Bureau of the Census, 1930 United States Federal 
Census (Ancestry.com [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: The Generation 
network, Inc., 2002. Original data: United States of America, Bureau of the 
Census. Fifteenth Census of the United States, 1930. Washington, D.C.: National 
Archives and Records Administration, 1920. T626, 2,667 rolls.), Brea, Orange, 
California, ED 30-22, sheet 11B.

I haven't failed to include any pertinent detail in this citation, except 
perhaps your inclusion of the reference to the household. I choose not to have 
100 or more sources which reference the 1930 census, then another 100 which 
reference the 1920 census, and another 100 referencing the 1910 census, etc. 
The Master Sources file will become unwieldy if I do that. Instead, I choose to 
have a Master Source for the 1930 census (and I'll have one only for the 1920, 
1910, etc.) and use the Source Detail tab to provide details of the source for 
each event.

Elizabeth
researching the descendants of William and Sarah (Patterson) Thompson

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Elizabeth,

For me the thing is that the more I have studied the Mills sourcing, the
more I agree with it. It is somewhat simpler, and more to the point (for me)
than the recommended ancestry source. 

Your source (below) didn't specify state and county, so I am thinking that
you are a lumper, whereas I am a splitter - more of a splitter than I
would like to be.

For me it would be more like this:

Source list name: Campbell, James B. - Census 1930 Howell Co MO
Author: [none]
Title: [none]
Publication facts: 1930 U.S. census, Howell County, Missouri, population
schedule, Chapel Township, ED 46-3, p. 4B (penned), dwelling 89, family 89.
James B. Campbell household : digital image by subscription,
«i»Ancestry.com«/i» (http://www.ancestry.com : accessed 31 July 2007);
citing National Archives microfilm T626, roll 1191.

Resulting in this output:

1. 1930 U.S. census, Howell County, Missouri, population schedule,
Chapel Township, ED 46-3, p. 4B (penned), dwelling 89, family 89. James B.
Campbell household : digital image by subscription, «i»Ancestry.com«/i»
(http://www.ancestry.com : accessed 31 July 2007); citing National Archives
microfilm T626, roll 1191.

I agree with you- I don't want to be obsessive, but I do desire clarity, in
assembling all necessary elements for finding the source again, and
eliminating all unnecessary elements (like the number of rolls in the T626
microfilm).

Ah, gee, what a tough task, huh? And all of us working our way that
direction, according to our own lights - and all of us being regarded by
most of the rest of the world as complete nuts. I know none of my friends
really get it at all. I am lucky to have my dad in my corner, the guy who
got me started.

Janis

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I have absolutely major census clean-up to do - a 5,000 person database and
not one census cited well enough for another person to locate the original.
The ease of citing sources in Legacy is one of the things I like best about
it. I watched Geoff's video on sources, and, although I do not cite my
federal census the way he does, I think I've got it about right.

Source List Name - Census 1930 Census
Author - United States of America, Bureau of the Census
Title - 1930 United States Federal Census
Publication Facts - Ancestry.com. [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: The
Generations Network, Inc., 2002. Original data: United States of America,
Bureau of the Census. Fifteenth Census of the United States, 1930.
Washington, D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, 1930. T626,
2,667 rolls.

In my detail for things like name, birth, marriage info, I add the location
and ED, Sheet, or, in the case of the census event itself, just the ED,
Sheet. The detail information displays at the end of the publication
information.

On Geoff's video, he suggested going to online libraries or other
repositories and copying and pasting the citation information given for any
of your sources for which you may not have copied everything you should
have.

Re: [LegacyUG] Speaking of alternate names...

2008-02-27 Thread Heather Stovold

Yes, I probably said that I had found in documents - but I would have
recorded those nicknames in the AKA's as well  (or maybe used the nickname
feature of the main name if they were pretty much used all the time)  -
I'd probably put in a few people as sources (or the person themself as the
source, if still alive) - and a note that they were generally called that -
or called that by buddies in the military, or whatever.

Basically, I used the AKA's to make sure that I would recognize that person
in another source if they were done the same.  I don't put all the spelling
variations that might exist (just the ones that I've seen for the person) -
as I generally know the variations, etc.

And, from the last time AKA's were mentioned, I'd really like to see these
broken up a bit in the future   Married names seperate from AKA's,
Spelling variations/mistakes in another area, and then Nicknames, and name
changes.   I'd like them seperate so that I can turn on the different types
individually in the index view.  (Ie, I'd like to see just the main names,
the name changes/nick names, and sometimes the married names - but not all
the spelling variations - or whatever combination makes the most sense)

On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 10:52 AM, Penny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Personally, I record the ones I know were in use, even though they don't
 show up on any official documents.

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[LegacyUG] Print in color

2008-02-27 Thread ArnieAbr


For every application on my computer  including,  Legacy Charting Companion 
and FTM,  I can print in color.  However, in all Legacy applications I cannot 
print in color.  When in  Legacy, I set the printer to color, go to the report, 
then go back and   check, and the color is deselected and BW is selected. I 
do not remember if  I ever printed a Legacy chart or report in color or not. 
Any way, my printer  is HP deskjet 870Cse, I use Legacy 4 Deluxe (WAITING FOR 
 7) and windows  XP.

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Re: [LegacyUG] A Census Question

I don't write the numbers at all.  I keep the documents themselves in 
digital form.


JL
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GeoSci wrote:

Depending upon where I get my information - US Census rcords seem to
have very different numbers.  For some - the only numbers I could get
might read:

Series T623, Roll 1393, Page 59

while for another it might read:

Family History Library # 1255207, NA Film # T9-1207, Page 523D

and yet for another:

Roll T9-1043, Page 294C

Obviously these are from different sources (Heritage Quest,
FamilySearchLabs, Family Search, Lost Cousins, etc.) - but are they
coordinated anywhere?  Which of these are needed and which are a waste
of time and energy?  I do have State, County and Town (or Township) -
so that detail is there...

Advise?  Clarification?

Thanks
Keith
  





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Re: [LegacyUG] A Census Question

2008-02-27 Thread John Carter

If your interest in citing a source is to allow others to find it, then I
would consider a citation such as
1930 US Census, Chicago, Lincoln County, Illinois, HeritageQuest, link
here, series, roll, page, line

Others will have their own preferences (order of state, county, township,
etc).

John


 Depending upon where I get my information - US Census rcords seem to
 have very different numbers.  For some - the only numbers I could get
 might read:

 Series T623, Roll 1393, Page 59

 while for another it might read:

 Family History Library # 1255207, NA Film # T9-1207, Page 523D

 and yet for another:

 Roll T9-1043, Page 294C

 Obviously these are from different sources (Heritage Quest,
 FamilySearchLabs, Family Search, Lost Cousins, etc.) - but are they
 coordinated anywhere?  Which of these are needed and which are a waste
 of time and energy?  I do have State, County and Town (or Township) -
 so that detail is there...

 Advise?  Clarification?

 Thanks
 Keith
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Re: [LegacyUG] Print in color

2008-02-27 Thread John Carter

I don't know how much difference there is in the Setup functions between
Legacy 4 and Legacy 6, but I'm guessing that it hasn't changed much.

At the top of the Legacy window, click File, then Print Setup.  Verify
that the correct printer is selected, then click Properties.

In Legacy 6, selecting Properties with a color printer gives a screen with
an option to select greyscale printing.  If the greyscale box is checked,
then you won't get color.

John


 For every application on my computer  including,  Legacy Charting
 Companion
 and FTM,  I can print in color.  However, in all Legacy applications I
 cannot
 print in color.  When in  Legacy, I set the printer to color, go to the
 report,
 then go back and   check, and the color is deselected and BW is selected.
 I
 do not remember if  I ever printed a Legacy chart or report in color or
 not.
 Any way, my printer  is HP deskjet 870Cse, I use Legacy 4 Deluxe (WAITING
 FOR
  7) and windows  XP.

 Any Help,

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Re: [LegacyUG] A Census Question

You seem to have different publications for the same census. If that were my 
case, I would create a Master Source record for each because the publication 
information is different. Then, your detail information will directly tie to 
the publication information you cite.


I do have some paper copies of the 1850-1900 census in my files, and when I 
get to those years, I'll have to decide whether to cite NARA, the FHL, or 
use Ancestry. I have copies of all the Ancestry census on my computer, so I 
suspect I'll retrieve them electronically, but it remains to be seen if I'll 
feel that ambitious.


Elizabeth
researching the descendants of William and Sarah (Patterson) Thompson

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Subject: [LegacyUG] A Census Question



Depending upon where I get my information - US Census rcords seem to
have very different numbers.  For some - the only numbers I could get
might read:

Series T623, Roll 1393, Page 59

while for another it might read:

Family History Library # 1255207, NA Film # T9-1207, Page 523D

and yet for another:

Roll T9-1043, Page 294C

Obviously these are from different sources (Heritage Quest,
FamilySearchLabs, Family Search, Lost Cousins, etc.) - but are they
coordinated anywhere?  Which of these are needed and which are a waste
of time and energy?  I do have State, County and Town (or Township) -
so that detail is there...

Advise?  Clarification?

Thanks
Keith
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EMail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: [LegacyUG] RIN Numbers

If you save a copy of the usr files and any report formats you save, 
then you can always recover if you lose your settings.


usr files are found in the Legacy program folder. Report format saves 
are wherever you chose to save them.


Cathy

At 11:10 PM 26/02/2008, you wrote:


I remember putting RIN numbers next to names,  but I cannot find how to do it
again.  Should one keep a template with the  customized options, so you don't
have to change it all the time?





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RE: [LegacyUG] Line Spacing


Hi Ron,

If you use General Notes for a Biography and wish it to be headed 
like that, in Book Reports, you simply change the Wording for General 
Notes (or Research Notes etc) on the Wording tabs.


It sounds as if webpages don't have that facility as you're more 
familiar with web pages from Legacy than I am.


Cathy

At 09:09 PM 26/02/2008, you wrote:



Bob,

1) I do not know and would need to check, but as this may be 
different depending on which Book Report you are using please can you specify.


2) I haven't used Legacy to do any biographical Reports as yet, but 
have reserved all my General Notes for this purpose. I can then 
change General Notes to Biography either in a word processor or, 
in my case, in my webpages. In effect I use Research Notes for 
general notes and use ToDo's for research. I do not regard a 
biography as an Event and would not, therefore, use Events.



Ron Ferguson





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