Re: [LegacyUG] How do I turn this off??

[Leon Chapman]

You will have to wait until the next update comes out.
Currently, you cannot turn it off.
Chap

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> How do I globally turn off the prompt for Source Citation detail?? I've
> combed through the customize options and several other places but can't seem
> to locate it. The detail window keeps popping up when I do a source copy and
> I have to unclick the prompt. I don't want it to pop up at all.
> Thanks, Nancy
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RE: [LegacyUG] Margaret Married Someone

[Kirsten Bowman]

Wendy:

True, it's a very easy item to correct--when you're aware of it.  My core
concern was that the term "someone" is automatically generated by the
software (apparently in more than just this one situation) and isn't
overwritten when the corresponding field is filled in but is only combined
with the new field contents.  It seems this is something that should be
corrected in programming.  It's really a very small problem (unless you're
printing a large book as Ruth did), but when we find these little buglets I
think it's worth confirming them with other users and then reporting them so
that Legacy operates as smoothly as possible.

Kirsten

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Hi Kirsten,

You may find satisfaction by entering the spouse before the marriage
information.  When you add a spouse to a person in your database, you
will be prompted to enter the marriage data when you save the spouse, so
you won't forget to do that step.  This will prevent your problem of
"someone" showing in your reports.

Hope this helps.  :-)

Kind Regards,
Wendy Howard
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Re: [LegacyUG] Margaret Married Someone

[Wendy Howard]

Hi Kirsten,

You may find satisfaction by entering the spouse before the marriage 
information.  When you add a spouse to a person in your database, you 
will be prompted to enter the marriage data when you save the spouse, so 
you won't forget to do that step.  This will prevent your problem of 
"someone" showing in your reports.


Hope this helps.  :-)

Kind Regards,
Wendy Howard
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[LegacyUG] How do I turn this off??

[Nancy]

How do I globally turn off the prompt for Source Citation detail?? I've 
combed through the customize options and several other places but can't seem 
to locate it. The detail window keeps popping up when I do a source copy and 
I have to unclick the prompt. I don't want it to pop up at all.

Thanks, Nancy





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RE: [LegacyUG] Re: Security Question

[ronald ferguson]

Mark,
 
I've found it's always worth checking the obvious (which is why I ask obvious 
questions) particularly after an upgrade/installation; it's surprising what can 
get changed in the process!

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> Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2008 14:33:46 -0600
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Re: Security Question
> 
> Thanks, Ron! That did the trick. I "thought" that I already had the
> 'never connect' radio button selected, but it wasn't.  Thanks
> again!
> 
> Mark Wilson
> 
> 
> ronald ferguson wrote:
>> Mark,
>> 
>> I was looking for your post this morning, but couldn't find it. I agree with 
>> Tim, and would suggest that you go to the tab Legacy Home>Options>Options 
>> and check the rado button "never contact the internet..".
>>
>> Ron Ferguson
>> 
>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
>>> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Re: Security Question
>>> Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2008 08:01:16 -0700
>>>
>>> Legacy News from the "Home Tab" is being sent as well as your version check 
>>> would be my best guess. Also being no one else has reported that problem, I 
>>> would fine tune your firewall. BTW, is it the firewall built into XP or 
>>> another 3rd party program. Or are you not running XP with a third party 
>>> program.
>>> Tim
>>>
>>> - Original Message - 
>>> From: "Mark Wilson" 
>>> To: 
>>> Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 9:46 PM
>>> Subject: [LegacyUG] Re: Security Question
>>>
>>> 
 When Legacy v7.0.0.76 launches, my firewall gives a warning that Legacy
 Genealogy Software is sending my "home address" information to
 www.legacyfamilytree.com. As a security issue, what actual information
 is being sent? Is it used for anything more than just page requests and
 hot-links for the tabbed "Legacy Home" window?

 Thanks!
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RE: [LegacyUG] Margaret Married Someone

[Kirsten Bowman]

Marie:

In my case I had to delete husband and the marriage information, then
re-enter first the husband's name and then the marriage data.  I don't know
if something similar would help your situation.

Kirsten

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Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Margaret Married Someone


Married someone also appears in another situation in Decendant Book Report
through the publishing center and in a regulare Decendant report.  Entered a
child for an unwed mother. Report says she married someone then gives the
date of death of the previous entry in parenthesis next to the "Someone". 
Can't figure out at all how to fix this.
 
Marie

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From: Kirsten Bowman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Margaret Married Someone
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Date: Wednesday, December 3, 2008, 4:23 PM

Sorry about the report name Randolph.  And I'm afraid you'll have to
dispose
of those spurious people yourself; I already have more strays than I'd like
;-).

Thanks for verifying.

Kirsten

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Clark
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To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Margaret Married Someone


It is as you said but you gave us the wrong name of the report. It's
Descendant Book report.
What would you like me to do with these spurious people I just added?
They're yours for the asking.






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[LegacyUG] Endnote problem

[seaic2008-gen]

I have upgraded to the latest build.  Still having problems with RTF reports.  
This happens with Ancestor and Descendant reports and Ancestor and Descendant 
book reports through the publishing center.

Trying to get endnotes to print after each generation rather than at the end.  
No matter whether I customize the RTF Citation Style to link or unlink I get an 
error message.  If I check link I get the following message alert: Endnotes 
after each generation is not available when using linked RTF source citations.  
Only footnotes on each page and endnotes at end of the report are available.  
Do you want to continue (using endnotes at end of the book)  Yes or No.If I 
check unlink in customize the RTF Citation Style I get the same message but 
telling me endnotes after each generation is not available when using unlinked 
RTF source citations.


Any suggestions?

Marie




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RE: [LegacyUG] Margaret Married Someone

[seaic2008-gen]

Married someone also appears in another situation in Decendant Book Report 
through the publishing center and in a regulare Decendant report.  Entered a 
child for an unwed mother. Report says she married someone then gives the date 
of death of the previous entry in parenthesis next to the "Someone".  Can't 
figure out at all how to fix this.
 
Marie

--- On Wed, 12/3/08, Kirsten Bowman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

From: Kirsten Bowman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Margaret Married Someone
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Date: Wednesday, December 3, 2008, 4:23 PM

Sorry about the report name Randolph.  And I'm afraid you'll have to
dispose
of those spurious people yourself; I already have more strays than I'd like
;-).

Thanks for verifying.

Kirsten

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Clark
Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2008 12:22 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Margaret Married Someone


It is as you said but you gave us the wrong name of the report. It's
Descendant Book report.
What would you like me to do with these spurious people I just added?
They're yours for the asking.


On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 2:40 PM, Kirsten Bowman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Ron:

Try this:
(1)  Enter a new daughter (Jane) for a couple (just the name is enough).
(2)  On that daughter's  Marriage Screen, enter a date and location.
If you then preview a descendant report for Jane's father, it will show for
his child, "Jane married someone" and the date (which is what I would
expect).

(3)  Add a husband John Jones for Jane.  (Yes, the husband is a new person.)
Preview the descendant report for her father again and it will show "Jane
married someone John Jones" and the date.

I haven't changed any defaults, and the "someone" is added
automatically; I
didn't enter that.

I can reproduce this over and over, so it's pretty clearly a
glitch--although a very small one.  If the software is going to add
"someone" when the name is left blank, it should overwrite that word
when a
name is added.

Kirsten



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Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Margaret Married Someone



Kirsten,


I have tied to reproduce this, albeit a day late, but cannot. I have tried
various ways - including some which crashed Legacy.

I leave unknowns as blank, so maybe this was why I haven't spotted it, but
changing to the "Unknown" default made no difference. One question
though -
you say that the husband's name appears as "Someone Joe Blogs",
if it
actually uses "someone" then how are you putting that in, when the
default
is unknown?

The new husband is overwriting the "Unknown" btw. I also take it that
to
enter the husband's details you are using the "enter new person"
option.

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Re: [LegacyUG] Descendant Chart display

[John S. Adams]

Elizabeth,
As I usually select "Pack information on one line" for Descendant Charts, I 
have not encountered this problem.  I unchecked that box and still didn't 
see the gap.  Then I noticed that you had marriage info displayed and I 
didn't.  When I included marriage, the gap showed up.  It looks like a 
buglet.  The program has left a space for marriage info between the 
husband's b. and d. info.  Don't think you can delete it on screen.  If you 
are going to print it as a text or HTML doc, you would have to edit out the 
gaps.


John S. Adams
Hermosa Beach, CA
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Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2008 1:23 PM
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Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Descendant Chart display

Yes, certainly the gap is useful between husband and wife, it is the gap 
between birth and death - now marked with Xs - that I don't want.

Elizabeth

On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 1:30 PM, Hope Bagot Bees
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

This is an example of the preview of a Descendant chart in Legacy.   I
understand the gap between his death date and his wife's name is for
clarity, but how can I remove the line gap between born date and died
date for Charles, please?

Charles Berjew Brooke J.P. [29]
born: 5 May 1839, 13 Gilbert Street, Grosvenor Sq. Middlx
XX
died: 10 Aug 1922, Brantham, Suffolk

+ Jane ROBINSON [30]
born: 2 Feb 1840, Liverpool
marr: 24 Jun 1862, Lee Chapel, Lee, Kent
died: 27 Jun 1891, Highbury, Middlesex






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Re: [LegacyUG] Descendant Chart display

[Hope Bagot Bees]

Yes, I found I can do that too - I also discovered that my Text Editor 
hadn't been properly set so everything was opening in Notepad - making 
for no flexibility.  It used to be set correctly to open in Word so 
perhaps this is a result of upgrading to Legacy 7 and not checking all 
was in order.  Seems to be sorted now.



Eliz Hanebury wrote:

I find the gap easier to read and grasp, me I just backspace to bring
it together if I want to save space. I will be interested to hear how
the others do it.


Eliz

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<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

This is an example of the preview of a Descendant chart in Legacy.   I
understand the gap between his death date and his wife's name is for
clarity, but how can I remove the line gap between born date and died
date for Charles, please?

Charles Berjew Brooke J.P. [29]
born: 5 May 1839, 13 Gilbert Street, Grosvenor Sq. Middlx

died: 10 Aug 1922, Brantham, Suffolk

+ Jane ROBINSON [30]
born: 2 Feb 1840, Liverpool
marr: 24 Jun 1862, Lee Chapel, Lee, Kent
died: 27 Jun 1891, Highbury, Middlesex
parents: Thomas ROBINSON [1001] and Catharine QUIRK [1002]






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Re: [LegacyUG] Listserv spam/HTML issues (Was: Legacy Question)

[Mike Fry]

Ward Walker wrote:
That's ridiculous. If I am sending e-mails to family and close friends, 
all of whom have broadband, I should be able to take advantage of modern 
formatting such as indenting, bolding, underlining, etc. Also, the word 
wrapping and general appearance of original messages should look a lot 
better than what we see below. Among other features. Why stay in the 
dark ages?


Agreed.

I also like to receive e-mail newsletters that are highly formatted with 
pictures and links, such as Legacy News. I don't mind the extra click to 
enable the pictures if I trust the sender.


Agreed.

My only complaint is that Windows Mail does not offer the preference to 
configure individual contact addresses to be plain text for outgoing 
e-mails (i.e., for mail list addresses). Fortunately, it does support 
automatic plain text replies to original plain text e-mails.


Then use something that does provide that flexibility! Thunderbird for 
example. HTML or plain text is selectable by each separate entry in the 
multiple address books.


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Re: [LegacyUG] Place names not as entered

[Hope Bagot Bees]

Many thanks - I was pressing the wrong edit button and kept getting the 
person concerned with Pas-de-Calais and not the location list.  I think 
it's time I went to bed!



Steve Voght wrote:

Even without the Geo-location database, you should be able to revise
short location names by highlighting the offending entry in the Master
Location List and selecting the 'Edit...' button at the bottom.  After
revising it and selecting 'Save' you'll get a warning that all entries
using the location will be affected; simply select 'OK' and you're
set!

Cheers,
Steve

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<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Thanks Steve (and Ron).

I see it is listed as the short location name but I don't have the option in
the Master Location list to change the short name - where do I change this,
please?  I removed the Geo Location Database a few months ago when I was
having memory problems (computer ones I mean, mine are another matter!).
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Re: [LegacyUG] Place names not as entered

[Steve Voght]

Even without the Geo-location database, you should be able to revise
short location names by highlighting the offending entry in the Master
Location List and selecting the 'Edit...' button at the bottom.  After
revising it and selecting 'Save' you'll get a warning that all entries
using the location will be affected; simply select 'OK' and you're
set!

Cheers,
Steve

On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 1:21 PM, Hope Bagot Bees
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Thanks Steve (and Ron).
>
> I see it is listed as the short location name but I don't have the option in
> the Master Location list to change the short name - where do I change this,
> please?  I removed the Geo Location Database a few months ago when I was
> having memory problems (computer ones I mean, mine are another matter!).
>  Should I re-install it to find short location names?
>
> Elizabeth



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RE: [LegacyUG] Margaret Married Someone

[Kirsten Bowman]

Sorry about the report name Randolph.  And I'm afraid you'll have to dispose
of those spurious people yourself; I already have more strays than I'd like
;-).

Thanks for verifying.

Kirsten

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Randolph
Clark
Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2008 12:22 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Margaret Married Someone


It is as you said but you gave us the wrong name of the report. It's
Descendant Book report.
What would you like me to do with these spurious people I just added?
They're yours for the asking.


On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 2:40 PM, Kirsten Bowman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Ron:

Try this:
(1)  Enter a new daughter (Jane) for a couple (just the name is enough).
(2)  On that daughter's  Marriage Screen, enter a date and location.
If you then preview a descendant report for Jane's father, it will show for
his child, "Jane married someone" and the date (which is what I would
expect).

(3)  Add a husband John Jones for Jane.  (Yes, the husband is a new person.)
Preview the descendant report for her father again and it will show "Jane
married someone John Jones" and the date.

I haven't changed any defaults, and the "someone" is added automatically; I
didn't enter that.

I can reproduce this over and over, so it's pretty clearly a
glitch--although a very small one.  If the software is going to add
"someone" when the name is left blank, it should overwrite that word when a
name is added.

Kirsten



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of ronald
ferguson

Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2008 4:16 AM
To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Margaret Married Someone



Kirsten,


I have tied to reproduce this, albeit a day late, but cannot. I have tried
various ways - including some which crashed Legacy.

I leave unknowns as blank, so maybe this was why I haven't spotted it, but
changing to the "Unknown" default made no difference. One question though -
you say that the husband's name appears as "Someone Joe Blogs", if it
actually uses "someone" then how are you putting that in, when the default
is unknown?

The new husband is overwriting the "Unknown" btw. I also take it that to
enter the husband's details you are using the "enter new person" option.

Ron Ferguson

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Re: [LegacyUG] Descendant Chart display

[Hope Bagot Bees]

Yes, certainly the gap is useful between husband and wife, it is the gap 
between birth and death - now marked with Xs - that I don't want.

Elizabeth

Eliz Hanebury wrote:

I find the gap easier to read and grasp, me I just backspace to bring
it together if I want to save space. I will be interested to hear how
the others do it.


Eliz

On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 1:30 PM, Hope Bagot Bees
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

This is an example of the preview of a Descendant chart in Legacy.   I
understand the gap between his death date and his wife's name is for
clarity, but how can I remove the line gap between born date and died
date for Charles, please?

Charles Berjew Brooke J.P. [29]
born: 5 May 1839, 13 Gilbert Street, Grosvenor Sq. Middlx
XX
died: 10 Aug 1922, Brantham, Suffolk

+ Jane ROBINSON [30]
born: 2 Feb 1840, Liverpool
marr: 24 Jun 1862, Lee Chapel, Lee, Kent
died: 27 Jun 1891, Highbury, Middlesex





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Re: [LegacyUG] Place names not as entered

[Hope Bagot Bees]

Thanks Steve (and Ron).

I see it is listed as the short location name but I don't have the 
option in the Master Location list to change the short name - where do I 
change this, please?  I removed the Geo Location Database a few months 
ago when I was having memory problems (computer ones I mean, mine are 
another matter!).  Should I re-install it to find short location names?


Elizabeth


Steve Voght wrote:

Elizabeth,

Have you verified that this isn't a difference between the full and
short location names for this location in the Master Location list?
The reports might be using the short name, while the individual
display typically uses the full name.  There are also some location
settings in the Options > Customize >Data Format page (under Letter
Case of Locations) -- check those settings to "don't change what I
enter" and see if that makes a difference.

Steve




Although I have entered a death as taking place in Pas-de-Calais, France,
Legacy insists on displaying it as Pas-DE-Calais.  The individual (editing)
screen shows the lowercase 'de' but the family view and descendant chart use
uppercase.





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Re: [LegacyUG] Security Question

[Steve Voght]

More than likely you saw the firewall message after updating because
most firewalls are also designed to detect changes in programs sending
internet requests and flag them (since the change could potentially be
malicious spyware or a virus that modified the program.)  Thus, you
might not even remember a firewal request way back when you installed
7.0.0.55, and it's been following whatever policy you set ever since.
Finally thanks to the big update to 76, the firewall setting was
reset, much to your surprise!  Version 55 definitely also connects to
the internet to update the Home tab and check for updates, if
permitted by local firewall settings.

You probably see a similar firewall request whenever IE or Firefox
downloads an update, but don't think twice about it because you expect
them to be connecting to the internet :)

That's not to say there aren't legitimate questions about what data is
being sent out from the program, of course; privacy and security are
always important!

Steve

On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 12:26 PM, Mark Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi Tim,
>
> I use ZoneAlarm Internet Security Suite v8.0.059.000 on WinXP32-SP3.  My
> concern was whether or not Legacy was trying to send more than just page
> requests.  Some programs are intentionally written to "call home" for
> various verifications, for error reports, to establish legitimacy, or to
> share usage data.  I had just installed Legacy v7.0.0.76 and when it
> restarted, ZoneAlarm notified me that "Legacy Genealogy Software is
> sending my 'home address' information to www.legacyfamilytree.com."  I
> hadn't even clicked on anything for Legacy yet to send a page request.
> Since that was the first time that ZoneAlarm had given that particular
> alert., it raised the question as to what was going on with Legacy.
>
> Since computer security is imperative, I didn't want to ignore the
> issue.  It's always better to be proactive rather than to look back and
> ask "Why didn't I"
>
> Thanks, Tim!
>
>
> Mark Wilson



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RE: [LegacyUG] Help with deleting a family

[June Chan]

Thank you Steve, Sandra and Carl 

It all worked once I unlinked the couple and then I double checked as to who
was tagged.

Many thanks.

June







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[LegacyUG] Security Question

[Mark Wilson]

Hi Tim,

I use ZoneAlarm Internet Security Suite v8.0.059.000 on WinXP32-SP3.  My
concern was whether or not Legacy was trying to send more than just page
requests.  Some programs are intentionally written to "call home" for
various verifications, for error reports, to establish legitimacy, or to
share usage data.  I had just installed Legacy v7.0.0.76 and when it
restarted, ZoneAlarm notified me that "Legacy Genealogy Software is
sending my 'home address' information to www.legacyfamilytree.com."  I
hadn't even clicked on anything for Legacy yet to send a page request. 
Since that was the first time that ZoneAlarm had given that particular
alert., it raised the question as to what was going on with Legacy.

Since computer security is imperative, I didn't want to ignore the
issue.  It's always better to be proactive rather than to look back and
ask "Why didn't I"

Thanks, Tim!


Mark Wilson


Tim Rosenlof wrote:
> Legacy News from the "Home Tab" is being sent as well as your version
> check would be my best guess. Also being no one else has reported that
> problem, I would fine tune your firewall. BTW, is it the firewall
> built into XP or another 3rd party program. Or are you not running XP
> with a third party program.
> Tim
>
> - Original Message - From: "Mark Wilson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 9:46 PM
> Subject: [LegacyUG] Re: Security Question
>>
>> When Legacy v7.0.0.76 launches, my firewall gives a warning that Legacy
>> Genealogy Software is sending my "home address" information to
>> www.legacyfamilytree.com.  As a security issue, what actual information
>> is being sent?  Is it used for anything more than just page requests and
>> hot-links for the tabbed "Legacy Home" window?
>>
>> Thanks!
>> Mark Wilson
yUG] Re: Security Question
  
  
When Legacy v7.0.0.76 launches, my firewall gives a warning that Legacy

Genealogy Software is sending my "home address" information to

www.legacyfamilytree.com.  As a security issue, what actual information

is being sent?  Is it used for anything more than just page requests
and

hot-links for the tabbed "Legacy Home" window?


Thanks!

Mark Wilson

  






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Re: [LegacyUG] Re: Security Question

[Mark Wilson]

Thanks, Ron!  That did the trick.  I "thought" that I already had the
'never connect' radio button selected, but it wasn't.Thanks
again!

Mark Wilson


ronald ferguson wrote:
> Mark,
>  
> I was looking for your post this morning, but couldn't find it. I agree with 
> Tim, and would suggest that you go to the tab Legacy Home>Options>Options and 
> check the rado button "never contact the internet..".
>
> Ron Ferguson
>   
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
>> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Re: Security Question
>> Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2008 08:01:16 -0700
>>
>> Legacy News from the "Home Tab" is being sent as well as your version check 
>> would be my best guess. Also being no one else has reported that problem, I 
>> would fine tune your firewall. BTW, is it the firewall built into XP or 
>> another 3rd party program. Or are you not running XP with a third party 
>> program.
>> Tim
>>
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "Mark Wilson" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 9:46 PM
>> Subject: [LegacyUG] Re: Security Question
>>
>> 
>>> When Legacy v7.0.0.76 launches, my firewall gives a warning that Legacy
>>> Genealogy Software is sending my "home address" information to
>>> www.legacyfamilytree.com. As a security issue, what actual information
>>> is being sent? Is it used for anything more than just page requests and
>>> hot-links for the tabbed "Legacy Home" window?
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>> Mark Wilson
>>>   



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RE: [LegacyUG] Listserv spam/HTML issues (Was: Legacy Question)

[John B. Lisle]

Hi,

It is correct that they use Mailman; however, it has been modified 
either by RootsWeb programmers or the company to support several of 
RootsWeb's specific requirements.


And, yes, RootsWeb does not permit use of many of Mailman's features 
as they are considered not compatible with RootsWeb's requirements.


Legacy is a much smaller company than RootsWeb/Ancestry. I hope that 
Legacy staff does not spend a lot of extra ergs of energy to build 
and maintain an email system.


I am sure they are dealing with this somehow.

john.

At 02:30 PM 12/3/2008, Wynthner wrote:
Rootsweb uses the Mailman Mailing List program which is a commercial 
program and has, in fact, restricted a lot of the bells and whistles it allows.



--- On Wed, 12/3/08, John B. Lisle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> From: John B. Lisle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Listserv spam/HTML issues (Was: Legacy Question)
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Date: Wednesday, December 3, 2008, 4:01 PM
> Ron and others,
>
> I am sure that Legacy staff is well aware of the problems
> and are working with their vendors to resolve the issues,
> but it takes time.
>
> I assume that we want the Legacy Staff to focus on Legacy,
> not Email. Their Email vendors should be resolving those
> problems.
>
> So... I suggest patience and an active use of the delete
> key until these issues get resolved.
>
> As to the HTML vs. Plain Text war...
>
> Using Plain Text only on email for PUBLIC mailing lists is
> courtesy both to the rest of the subscribers and to the list
> operator. List subscribers benefit by smaller messages, and
> list operators benefit by more effective list management.
>
> RootsWeb has had a policy for 10+ years that all of the
> messages in their email  list system be plain text only with
> no attachments. I suspect most online genealogists subscribe
> to one or more of those lists. If they do, they have learned
> both how to send and how to receive messages to their list
> with whatever email client they have.
>
> Administrators (I admin dozens of lists) get all of the bad
> messages sent to the list - messages from non-subscribers,
> HTML, messages with attachments, messages too long, etc. and
> have to review them.
>
> The only times that garbage gets to the lists is when a
> spammer subscribes to the list or hijacks a legitimate
> subscriber email address.
>
> As an admin, I can put a spammer on moderate mode or unsub
> them. I can also moderate new subscriptions for a while to
> prevent a spammer from continually trying to subscribe from
> a new address.
>
> But that is for RootsWeb lists. RootsWeb maintains 1000s of
> lists with likely millions of messages every month. They
> need to be on top of their game and have highly customized
> it for the RootsWeb environment.
>
> What we are talking about with the LUG list is a list
> maintained by a private server, likely using some type of
> commercial, off-the-shelf, mailing list software. It may not
> have all of the bells and whistles that RootsWeb has.
>
> And obviously, the LUG list has come under continuing
> attack, and, as such, the problems mount.
>
> We just need patience...
>
> john.
>





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Re: [LegacyUG] Margaret Married Someone

[Randolph Clark]

It is as you said but you gave us the wrong name of the report. It's
Descendant Book report.
What would you like me to do with these spurious people I just added?
They're yours for the asking.

On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 2:40 PM, Kirsten Bowman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Ron:
>
> Try this:
> (1)  Enter a new daughter (Jane) for a couple (just the name is enough).
> (2)  On that daughter's  Marriage Screen, enter a date and location.
> If you then preview a descendant report for Jane's father, it will show for
> his child, "Jane married someone" and the date (which is what I would
> expect).
>
> (3)  Add a husband John Jones for Jane.  (Yes, the husband is a new
> person.)
> Preview the descendant report for her father again and it will show "Jane
> married someone John Jones" and the date.
>
> I haven't changed any defaults, and the "someone" is added automatically; I
> didn't enter that.
>
> I can reproduce this over and over, so it's pretty clearly a
> glitch--although a very small one.  If the software is going to add
> "someone" when the name is left blank, it should overwrite that word when a
> name is added.
>
> Kirsten
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of ronald
> ferguson
> Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2008 4:16 AM
> To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Margaret Married Someone
>
>
>
> Kirsten,
>
> I have tied to reproduce this, albeit a day late, but cannot. I have tried
> various ways - including some which crashed Legacy.
>
> I leave unknowns as blank, so maybe this was why I haven't spotted it, but
> changing to the "Unknown" default made no difference. One question though -
> you say that the husband's name appears as "Someone Joe Blogs", if it
> actually uses "someone" then how are you putting that in, when the default
> is unknown?
>
> The new husband is overwriting the "Unknown" btw. I also take it that to
> enter the husband's details you are using the "enter new person" option.
>
> Ron Ferguson
>
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> http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/
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>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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RE: [LegacyUG] Margaret Married Someone

[Kirsten Bowman]

Ron:

Try this:
(1)  Enter a new daughter (Jane) for a couple (just the name is enough).
(2)  On that daughter's  Marriage Screen, enter a date and location.
If you then preview a descendant report for Jane's father, it will show for
his child, "Jane married someone" and the date (which is what I would
expect).

(3)  Add a husband John Jones for Jane.  (Yes, the husband is a new person.)
Preview the descendant report for her father again and it will show "Jane
married someone John Jones" and the date.

I haven't changed any defaults, and the "someone" is added automatically; I
didn't enter that.

I can reproduce this over and over, so it's pretty clearly a
glitch--although a very small one.  If the software is going to add
"someone" when the name is left blank, it should overwrite that word when a
name is added.

Kirsten


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of ronald
ferguson
Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2008 4:16 AM
To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Margaret Married Someone



Kirsten,

I have tied to reproduce this, albeit a day late, but cannot. I have tried
various ways - including some which crashed Legacy.

I leave unknowns as blank, so maybe this was why I haven't spotted it, but
changing to the "Unknown" default made no difference. One question though -
you say that the husband's name appears as "Someone Joe Blogs", if it
actually uses "someone" then how are you putting that in, when the default
is unknown?

The new husband is overwriting the "Unknown" btw. I also take it that to
enter the husband's details you are using the "enter new person" option.

Ron Ferguson

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RE: [LegacyUG] Listserv spam/HTML issues (Was: Legacy Question)

[Wynthner]

Rootsweb uses the Mailman Mailing List program which is a commercial program 
and has, in fact, restricted a lot of the bells and whistles it allows.


--- On Wed, 12/3/08, John B. Lisle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> From: John B. Lisle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Listserv spam/HTML issues (Was: Legacy Question)
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Date: Wednesday, December 3, 2008, 4:01 PM
> Ron and others,
> 
> I am sure that Legacy staff is well aware of the problems
> and are working with their vendors to resolve the issues,
> but it takes time.
> 
> I assume that we want the Legacy Staff to focus on Legacy,
> not Email. Their Email vendors should be resolving those
> problems.
> 
> So... I suggest patience and an active use of the delete
> key until these issues get resolved.
> 
> As to the HTML vs. Plain Text war...
> 
> Using Plain Text only on email for PUBLIC mailing lists is
> courtesy both to the rest of the subscribers and to the list
> operator. List subscribers benefit by smaller messages, and
> list operators benefit by more effective list management.
> 
> RootsWeb has had a policy for 10+ years that all of the
> messages in their email  list system be plain text only with
> no attachments. I suspect most online genealogists subscribe
> to one or more of those lists. If they do, they have learned
> both how to send and how to receive messages to their list
> with whatever email client they have.
> 
> Administrators (I admin dozens of lists) get all of the bad
> messages sent to the list - messages from non-subscribers,
> HTML, messages with attachments, messages too long, etc. and
> have to review them.
> 
> The only times that garbage gets to the lists is when a
> spammer subscribes to the list or hijacks a legitimate
> subscriber email address.
> 
> As an admin, I can put a spammer on moderate mode or unsub
> them. I can also moderate new subscriptions for a while to
> prevent a spammer from continually trying to subscribe from
> a new address.
> 
> But that is for RootsWeb lists. RootsWeb maintains 1000s of
> lists with likely millions of messages every month. They
> need to be on top of their game and have highly customized
> it for the RootsWeb environment.
> 
> What we are talking about with the LUG list is a list
> maintained by a private server, likely using some type of
> commercial, off-the-shelf, mailing list software. It may not
> have all of the bells and whistles that RootsWeb has.
> 
> And obviously, the LUG list has come under continuing
> attack, and, as such, the problems mount.
> 
> We just need patience...
> 
> john.
> 
> 
> At 06:27 AM 12/3/2008, ronald ferguson wrote:
> > This is not possible for many web based email senders,
> and I, for one will only use this type on for public emails.
> > 
> > Ron Ferguson
> > 
> > 
> > > Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 22:06:30 -0800
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Listserv spam/HTML issues
> (Was: Legacy Question)
> > > To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> > >
> > > Sorry, but ALL users ahould have their e-mail
> client set to send ONLY in text. HTML should never, Never,
> NEVER, be used in e-mail-for *any* reason-period.
> > >
> > > Truth be told, Emails clients shouldn't even
> recognize HTML. Browsers yes- E-Mail clients no.
> > >
> > >
> > > --- On Tue, 12/2/08, Steve Voght
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > > From: Steve Voght
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Listserv spam/HTML
> issues (Was: Legacy Question)
> > > > To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> > > > Date: Tuesday, December 2, 2008, 10:13 PM
> > > > With all due respect to everyone who keeps
> arguing that HTML
> > > > messages
> > > > are the bane of the world and the cause of
> problems on this
> > > > list, the
> > > > two biggest issues with the spam flagging
> are undoubtedly
> > > > the
> > > > onslaught of repetitive error messages about
> not being
> > > > subscribed to
> > > > the list (spam heuristics look for frequent
> message
> > > > repetition as a
> > > > sign of spam), and the spamming issue last
> month when
> > > > someone hijacked
> > > > Geoff's Legacy email address and was
> using it to send
> > > > fake Rolex
> > > > messages to the list. As people kept tagging
> those
> > > > messages as spam,
> > > > filters were learning that messages
> originating from LUG
> > > > were likely
> > > > to be spam and thus the spam score goes up
> on all LUG
> > > > messages.
> > > >
> > > > Whoever maintains this list needs to deal
> with the error
> > > > messages
> > > > because it is dramatically adding to the
> burden on end
> > > > users
> > > > downloading the messages, and it is also
> adding extra
> > > > messages as
> > > > people keep responding asking why they are
> receiving them
> > > > in the first
> > > > place and what they did wrong.
> > > >
> > > > With regard to HTML messages, virtually
> every mailing list
> > > > management
> > > > program has an option to st

Re: [LegacyUG] Place names not as entered

[Bert van Kootwijk]

Change that entry in the Master Location List

Bert


- Original Message - 
From: "Hope Bagot Bees" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Wednesday 3 December 2008 19:32
Subject: [LegacyUG] Place names not as entered


Although I have entered a death as taking place in Pas-de-Calais, France, 
Legacy insists on displaying it as Pas-DE-Calais.  The individual 
(editing) screen shows the lowercase 'de' but the family view and 
descendant chart use uppercase.


I think this looks odd - any ideas as to how I can change it please?
Elizabeth



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Re: [LegacyUG] Place names not as entered

[Steve Voght]

Elizabeth,

Have you verified that this isn't a difference between the full and
short location names for this location in the Master Location list?
The reports might be using the short name, while the individual
display typically uses the full name.  There are also some location
settings in the Options > Customize >Data Format page (under Letter
Case of Locations) -- check those settings to "don't change what I
enter" and see if that makes a difference.

Steve

On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 10:32 AM, Hope Bagot Bees
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Although I have entered a death as taking place in Pas-de-Calais, France,
> Legacy insists on displaying it as Pas-DE-Calais.  The individual (editing)
> screen shows the lowercase 'de' but the family view and descendant chart use
> uppercase.
>
> I think this looks odd - any ideas as to how I can change it please?
> Elizabeth
>
>
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RE: [LegacyUG] Place names not as entered

[ronald ferguson]

Elizabeth,
 
I think you will find on going to View>Master Lists>Location that you have Pas 
De Calais in the master list. If you also have Pas de Calais then combine the 
former into the latter. If you only have Pas De Calais then use Edit to change.
 
My guess is that you have both.

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> Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2008 18:32:29 +
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Subject: [LegacyUG] Place names not as entered
> 
> Although I have entered a death as taking place in Pas-de-Calais, 
> France, Legacy insists on displaying it as Pas-DE-Calais. The 
> individual (editing) screen shows the lowercase 'de' but the family view 
> and descendant chart use uppercase.
> 
> I think this looks odd - any ideas as to how I can change it please?
> Elizabeth
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Descendant Chart display

[Eliz Hanebury]

I find the gap easier to read and grasp, me I just backspace to bring
it together if I want to save space. I will be interested to hear how
the others do it.


Eliz

On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 1:30 PM, Hope Bagot Bees
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> This is an example of the preview of a Descendant chart in Legacy.   I
> understand the gap between his death date and his wife's name is for
> clarity, but how can I remove the line gap between born date and died
> date for Charles, please?
>
> Charles Berjew Brooke J.P. [29]
> born: 5 May 1839, 13 Gilbert Street, Grosvenor Sq. Middlx
>
> died: 10 Aug 1922, Brantham, Suffolk
>
> + Jane ROBINSON [30]
> born: 2 Feb 1840, Liverpool
> marr: 24 Jun 1862, Lee Chapel, Lee, Kent
> died: 27 Jun 1891, Highbury, Middlesex
> parents: Thomas ROBINSON [1001] and Catharine QUIRK [1002]
>
>
>
>
>
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[LegacyUG] Place names not as entered

[Hope Bagot Bees]

Although I have entered a death as taking place in Pas-de-Calais, 
France, Legacy insists on displaying it as Pas-DE-Calais.  The 
individual (editing) screen shows the lowercase 'de' but the family view 
and descendant chart use uppercase.


I think this looks odd - any ideas as to how I can change it please?
Elizabeth



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[LegacyUG] Re: Help Please on Source Template Overrides

[Kay Fordham]

Jenny

I should have put the issue aside when tired and frustrated.  I had problems 
with the overrides one time and not the next, and was not able to 
efficiently analyze what was going wrong.  Will have a go at it today with a 
clear mind.  Thanks for your helpful feedback and hope you feel better soon.


Kay

Jenny Wrote:

My brain's a bit fuzzy at the moment (combination of heavy cold and cold 
cures!) but I think I have worked through this correctly:
Working in the Source Detail screen, if you enter the Details on the first 
tab, then click the Override tab there will be nothing entered in the boxes, 
but if you click on "click here to go to the overrides tab" the boxes will 
have the citations entered ready for you to edit.
If you copy a Source which has overrides to the Source Clipboard, then paste 
it, it will paste with the overrides included and the checkbox ticked for 
using that override. If you make changes to the Source Detail and then want 
to incorporate these into an Override, you need to make your Detail changes, 
then click "the output has been overridden by the user. Click here ..." and 
then re-write your override sentence, not just change the bits you have 
changed on the details screen.

I hope that makes sense!
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[LegacyUG] Descendant Chart display

[Hope Bagot Bees]

This is an example of the preview of a Descendant chart in Legacy.   I
understand the gap between his death date and his wife's name is for
clarity, but how can I remove the line gap between born date and died
date for Charles, please?

Charles Berjew Brooke J.P. [29]
born: 5 May 1839, 13 Gilbert Street, Grosvenor Sq. Middlx

died: 10 Aug 1922, Brantham, Suffolk

+ Jane ROBINSON [30]
born: 2 Feb 1840, Liverpool
marr: 24 Jun 1862, Lee Chapel, Lee, Kent
died: 27 Jun 1891, Highbury, Middlesex
parents: Thomas ROBINSON [1001] and Catharine QUIRK [1002]






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[LegacyUG] [LegacyUserGroup] List Posting Error Notification

[LegacyUserGroup-owner]

-
 MailEnable: You are not permitted to post to the list 
(LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com).


 This list may be password protected, or you may need to have previously 
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Re: [LegacyUG] Help with deleting a family

[Steve Voght]

June,

After a quick test I realize you need to follow Sandra's advice about
unlinking the incorrect marriage before attempting this process, or
else your g-g-g-grandfather will also be tagged and deleted (that
tricky "tag everyone in the ancestor chart including spouses" thing!)

Once you have unlinked the false grandmother from your correct
ancestors, select her and then the steps provided above should work
properly.  Teach me to provide instructions without first
double-checking it myself!

Cheers,
Steve

On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 1:11 AM, June Chan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello Steve
>
> I followed your steps - but think that I must have misunderstood who the
> root person was/is because I clicked on my non great great grandmother but
> still ended up deleting my great great grandfather and all his ancestors.
>
> Could you please advise.
>
> Thank you - June



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Re: [LegacyUG] Help with deleting a family

[Carl Cox]

<>

Before you delete any of the tagged individuals, check to see that only the 
ones you want to delete are tagged. You can tag each individual on the 
family screen by just clicking the tag box. In individual Edit, you have 
access to all 9 tags, and can tag or untag there.


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Re: [LegacyUG] Listserv spam/HTML issues (Was: Legacy Question)

[Dennis Kowallek]

On Wed, 3 Dec 2008 00:27:16 -0800, "Steve Voght" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

>(Below is a bit of speculation on my part, so all you Legacy users can
>just ignore this and let the tech people laugh at my wild theories...)
>
>Perhaps Ken is sending messages to a listserv address associated with
>[LegacyUserGroup], which is then forwarding the messages to the
>correct [LegacyUG] group, but [LegacyUG] rejects them because it
>doesn't recognize Ken's address (or perhaps the [LegacyUserGroup]
>listserv address) as a subscriber to [LegacyUG].  Meanwhile, because
>the mailing lists are set up to REPLY-TO the listserv address, the
>[LegacyUG] rejection message is sent back to the [LegacyUserGroup]
>list (using the REPLY-TO instead of the FROM).  Then [LegacyUserGroup]
>receives it and treats it like any other message, again forwarding it
>to [LegacyUG] like outlined above.  This time the FROM address matches
>a subscribed user (the [LegacyUG] listserv address itself!), so
>finally these rejection messages get sent along to all of us, and we
>get frustrated.

Just to continue the speculation...

[[I tried to email Ken yesterday but apparently his telephone is off the
hook.]]

Several other strange things about the "spam":

1) Up until one I received this morning, they all are associated with
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] This seems odd to me.

2) The bounce emails have all had minimal headers. They only have 1
   "receive" header.

3) Yesterday I tried sending an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Later in
   the day, I received what appeared to be 4 LUG bounce messages. But
   these were different than the previous bounce messages. These had
   several additional intermediate "receive" headers (from
   centerbeam.com and messagelabs.com). I don't know if there is any
   connection between my sending the email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and
   these 4 strange emails I received, but I checked the LUG archives and
   don't see these 4 bounces anywhere. I assume they went to me but not
   to the LUG.

I also have been suspect of some kind of feedback loop. But I wonder if
[EMAIL PROTECTED] isn't somehow involved in this loop. Maybe some
sort of auto-forward? And does this account even belong to our Ken?

-- 

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Re: [LegacyUG] Listserv spam/HTML issues (Was: Legacy Question)

[Ward Walker]

That's ridiculous. If I am sending e-mails to family and close friends, all 
of whom have broadband, I should be able to take advantage of modern 
formatting such as indenting, bolding, underlining, etc. Also, the word 
wrapping and general appearance of original messages should look a lot 
better than what we see below. Among other features. Why stay in the dark 
ages?


I also like to receive e-mail newsletters that are highly formatted with 
pictures and links, such as Legacy News. I don't mind the extra click to 
enable the pictures if I trust the sender.


My only complaint is that Windows Mail does not offer the preference to 
configure individual contact addresses to be plain text for outgoing e-mails 
(i.e., for mail list addresses). Fortunately, it does support automatic 
plain text replies to original plain text e-mails.


  Ward

- Original Message - 
From: "Wynthner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2008 1:06 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Listserv spam/HTML issues (Was: Legacy Question)


Sorry, but ALL users ahould have their e-mail client set to send ONLY in 
text. HTML should never, Never, NEVER, be used in e-mail-for *any* 
reason-period.


Truth be told, Emails clients shouldn't even recognize HTML. Browsers yes- 
E-Mail clients no.



--- On Tue, 12/2/08, Steve Voght <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


From: Steve Voght <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Listserv spam/HTML issues (Was: Legacy Question)
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Date: Tuesday, December 2, 2008, 10:13 PM
With all due respect to everyone who keeps arguing that HTML
messages
are the bane of the world and the cause of problems on this
list, the
two biggest issues with the spam flagging are undoubtedly
the
onslaught of repetitive error messages about not being
subscribed to
the list (spam heuristics look for frequent message
repetition as a
sign of spam), and the spamming issue last month when
someone hijacked
Geoff's Legacy email address and was using it to send
fake Rolex
messages to the list.  As people kept tagging those
messages as spam,
filters were learning that messages originating from LUG
were likely
to be spam and thus the spam score goes up on all LUG
messages.

Whoever maintains this list needs to deal with the error
messages
because it is dramatically adding to the burden on end
users
downloading the messages, and it is also adding extra
messages as
people keep responding asking why they are receiving them
in the first
place and what they did wrong.

With regard to HTML messages, virtually every mailing list
management
program has an option to strip the HTML from messages
before passing
them on, and if a list actually wants to implement a
'no HTML' policy
then that is really the only way to do it properly.
Expecting end
users to maintain compliance is asking for trouble, both in
terms of
new users getting regularly chided by seasoned listers when
they make
a mistake by sending an HTML message, and additionally
because one of
the stated concerns about HTML email is that it might
contain a virus
(an extremely remote possibility, but still of potential
concern to
some people.)  In that case, having the list server strip
HTML is the
*only* way to ensure this is prevented. Otherwise you give
end users a
false sense of security because they think they are on a
list that
bans HTML, yet it still comes through with high frequency
(I know I've
been guilty of sending an HTML message or two by mistake!)

Furthermore concerning the other, more legitimate, issue
with HTML
messages (file size), having the list software strip it out
before
sending has the added advantage of decreasing the size of
the messages
before passing them to the end users, which improves the
speed they
are downloaded for dial-up users.

I don't know what program Millennium uses to maintain
this list so I
can't be absolutely certain such a feature is included,
but if it
isn't then perhaps it's time to switch us to
something more robust and
better able to deal with these frequent errors that crop
up.  In the
end we'll all be able to talk more about genealogy
research and spend
less time discussing the mailing list itself.

Cheers,
Steve

On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 1:22 PM, Mike Fry
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hope Bagot Bees wrote:
>>
>> Has your spam or antivirus blocked Legacy
postings?  I keep getting a
>> message from Thunderbird suggesting that Legacy
postings are a scam, which I
>> have to refute.
>
> That's because people insist on using HTML and
they express the latest
> version as 7.0.0.76 which in HTML looks like an IP
address. The implication
> according to Thunderbird, is that the message wants
you to go to that web
> site. Hence, a possible scam!
>
> --
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RE: [LegacyUG] Listserv spam/HTML issues (Was: Legacy Question)

[John B. Lisle]

Ron and others,

I am sure that Legacy staff is well aware of the problems and are 
working with their vendors to resolve the issues, but it takes time.


I assume that we want the Legacy Staff to focus on Legacy, not Email. 
Their Email vendors should be resolving those problems.


So... I suggest patience and an active use of the delete key until 
these issues get resolved.


As to the HTML vs. Plain Text war...

Using Plain Text only on email for PUBLIC mailing lists is courtesy 
both to the rest of the subscribers and to the list operator. List 
subscribers benefit by smaller messages, and list operators benefit 
by more effective list management.


RootsWeb has had a policy for 10+ years that all of the messages in 
their email  list system be plain text only with no attachments. I 
suspect most online genealogists subscribe to one or more of those 
lists. If they do, they have learned both how to send and how to 
receive messages to their list with whatever email client they have.


Administrators (I admin dozens of lists) get all of the bad messages 
sent to the list - messages from non-subscribers, HTML, messages with 
attachments, messages too long, etc. and have to review them.


The only times that garbage gets to the lists is when a spammer 
subscribes to the list or hijacks a legitimate subscriber email address.


As an admin, I can put a spammer on moderate mode or unsub them. I 
can also moderate new subscriptions for a while to prevent a spammer 
from continually trying to subscribe from a new address.


But that is for RootsWeb lists. RootsWeb maintains 1000s of lists 
with likely millions of messages every month. They need to be on top 
of their game and have highly customized it for the RootsWeb environment.


What we are talking about with the LUG list is a list maintained by a 
private server, likely using some type of commercial, off-the-shelf, 
mailing list software. It may not have all of the bells and whistles 
that RootsWeb has.


And obviously, the LUG list has come under continuing attack, and, as 
such, the problems mount.


We just need patience...

john.


At 06:27 AM 12/3/2008, ronald ferguson wrote:
This is not possible for many web based email senders, and I, for 
one will only use this type on for public emails.


Ron Ferguson


> Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 22:06:30 -0800
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Listserv spam/HTML issues (Was: Legacy Question)
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
>
> Sorry, but ALL users ahould have their e-mail client set to send 
ONLY in text. HTML should never, Never, NEVER, be used in 
e-mail-for *any* reason-period.

>
> Truth be told, Emails clients shouldn't even recognize HTML. 
Browsers yes- E-Mail clients no.

>
>
> --- On Tue, 12/2/08, Steve Voght <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > From: Steve Voght <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Listserv spam/HTML issues (Was: Legacy Question)
> > To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> > Date: Tuesday, December 2, 2008, 10:13 PM
> > With all due respect to everyone who keeps arguing that HTML
> > messages
> > are the bane of the world and the cause of problems on this
> > list, the
> > two biggest issues with the spam flagging are undoubtedly
> > the
> > onslaught of repetitive error messages about not being
> > subscribed to
> > the list (spam heuristics look for frequent message
> > repetition as a
> > sign of spam), and the spamming issue last month when
> > someone hijacked
> > Geoff's Legacy email address and was using it to send
> > fake Rolex
> > messages to the list. As people kept tagging those
> > messages as spam,
> > filters were learning that messages originating from LUG
> > were likely
> > to be spam and thus the spam score goes up on all LUG
> > messages.
> >
> > Whoever maintains this list needs to deal with the error
> > messages
> > because it is dramatically adding to the burden on end
> > users
> > downloading the messages, and it is also adding extra
> > messages as
> > people keep responding asking why they are receiving them
> > in the first
> > place and what they did wrong.
> >
> > With regard to HTML messages, virtually every mailing list
> > management
> > program has an option to strip the HTML from messages
> > before passing
> > them on, and if a list actually wants to implement a
> > 'no HTML' policy
> > then that is really the only way to do it properly.
> > Expecting end
> > users to maintain compliance is asking for trouble, both in
> > terms of
> > new users getting regularly chided by seasoned listers when
> > they make
> > a mistake by sending an HTML message, and additionally
> > because one of
> > the stated concerns about HTML email is that it might
> > contain a virus
> > (an extremely remote possibility, but still of potential
> > concern to
> > some people.) In that case, having the list server strip
> > HTML is the
> > *only* way to ensure this is prevented. Otherwise you give
> > end users a
> > false sense of securi

Re: [LegacyUG] [LegacyUserGroup] List Posting Error Notification

[GeoSci]

In GMAIL (Let me know if you want an account) - I just (in a minute or
less) set up a (SETTINGS, FILTER) filter that simply scans all
incoming Emails for the word " MailEnable: " and sends any message
with that to TRASH - I never ever see it!  EASY WAY OUT!

Keith

On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 4:29 AM,  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I am getting tired of receiving these messages so I am going to unsubscribe
> from this list until it is fixed. It used to not be much of a problem but
> now I can click the delete button and it is still there. I have to click
> delete 3 or 4 times before it is deleted.
> Lloyd
>
> In a message dated 12/2/2008 1:06:54 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>
> -
> MailEnable: You are not permitted to post to the list
> (LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com).
>
>
> This list may be password protected, or you may need to have previously
> subscribed to
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>
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Help with deleting a family

[Sandra Vaneldik]

Hi June,

I would agree with the tagging idea but would first start with the marriage 
and unlink the spouse you want to delete. This will separate her from your 
gggrandfather first and all should be well.


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Re: [LegacyUG] [LegacyUserGroup] List Posting Error Notification

[Ward Walker]

Your comment makes me question how you are reading your e-mails. If you do 
it as follows, the MailEnable e-mails will not bother you at all.
 - Automatically filter all [LegacyUG] e-mails off to a separate folder 
from your Inbox folder.
 - When you choose to scan the Legacy UG e-mails, be sure to temporarily 
set the viewing mode to a threaded view, or at least sort the e-mails by 
subject. All the MailEnable error e-mails will be grouped together and that 
thread can be ignored. (In the Windows Mail or Outlook Express readers, use 
View --> Current View --> Group Messages by Conversation.)
 - Scan down the list and read the threads that interest you. If you want 
to reply to an e-mail, do so or else flag it for later. If you want to 
permanently save an e-mail, move it to another folder or flag it in place.
 - Bulk delete all non-flagged e-mails in that folder. This just takes a 
few clicks.


This suggestion applies for any busy mail list (such as LegacyUG).

Hope this helps.

  Ward

P.S.: If you have to click 3-4 times to delete, it is probably because 3-4 
separate but identical e-mails arrived a few minutes apart.
P.P.S.: If you do scan in a true threaded (hierarchical) view, and if this 
view defaults to unexpanded threads, you might want to quickly expand each 
thread to see if someone has accidentally hijacked the thread (that you were 
not interested in) for a new subject (that you are interested in). This 
happens every few days.


- Original Message - 
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2008 4:29 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] [LegacyUserGroup] List Posting Error Notification


I am getting tired of receiving these messages so I am going to unsubscribe 
from this list until it is fixed. It used to not be much of a problem but 
now I can click the delete button and it is still there. I have to click 
delete 3 or 4 times before it is deleted.

Lloyd

In a message dated 12/2/2008 1:06:54 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy question

[Dermot McGlone]

Folks,

I received the following (which I've edited slightly for privacy
reasons) from Gary Crull, as a further update on the problems he's
having.

If anyone wants to reply to the problems he's having, you can do so to
the list, and I'll consolidate any/all the responses and forward them
to Gary tomorrow (Thursday 4 December).  I've also forwarded a copy of
this e-mail to Gary and to Sherry/Support as there may be an issue
there.

Regards,

Dermot.


2008/12/3 Gary Crull <@.com>:
> Dermot,
>
> Thanks for taking the time to be my go-between.
>
> I have a filter set up in my ISP with the word LEGACY included in
> either the SUBJECT line or FROM line to be routed to a Legacy folder  I've
> changed nothing in my ISP filters. Everything was working until 28
> Nov. I haven't received any Legacy postings since. Obviously my posting did
> show up on the list but I never saw it nor any replies it generated, other
> than those sent directly to me. I considered UNsubscribing and then
> Subscribing again, but that seems to be useless since everybody else can see
> my postings I'm obviously still subscribedI'm just excluded from all
> postings!!
>
> I contacted My ISPs TECH and really didn't get any positive feed back from
> them. That correspondence is included below.
>
> As to the question of Legacy being so sluggish. I checked that I have the
> most recent update. I'm considering uninstalling Legacy and then doing a
> reinstall. I feel this might remedy the problem, but I'm a little hesitant
> in doing so. I have my DATA stored in a separate location (ie. not in the
> Legacy folder, or sub folders), so that's not much of a concern. My BIG
> concern in doing a total uninstall is losing all my customized settings that
> have been tweaked over the years. I'd be hard pressed to try and remember
> how I got all of them set to the way I have/want them now! ha
>
> If I uninstall, using the Windows XP (SP3) uninstall ADD/REMOVE program
> feature or the Legacy Uninstall feature do I reinstall the application using
> my original Legacy 7 CD or download/install from the Legacy web site?
>
> You can use any portion of this in anyway you see fit to post to the group,
> answer directly or give me a "digest" of any replies if you post it to the
> group. Looks like I'm locked out of participation for the foreseeable
> future... :(
>
> gc
>
>
> * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Correspondence from Security & Abuse
> team * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
>
> Hello,
>
> Thanks for contacting email support and bringing this matter to our
> attention.
>
> Our most recent records indicate that you have received messages having the
> word "LEGACY" in the "From" field and the "Subject" line.
>
> However, if you are referring to any particular message (posting) that you
> have not received, then in order to fix this issue, please contact the
> domain and ask them to provide us with the following information:
>
> 1.A copy of the delivery failure notice (Exact transcript of the error
> message).
> 2.All the outbound IP addresses from which these messages are sent.
> 3.The sending email address.
> 4.The exact dates on which these messages were sent.
> 5.The Subject line of the messages.
>
> The above information will help us investigate this matter and take
> appropriate action.
>
> Should you require any further assistance, please write back.
>
> Sincerely,
>
>
> Replied Message
>
>>Problem Type: I can't receive email
>>OS : XPSP2
>>Browser :mozilla1x
>>Email App :eow
>>Firewall version :Zone Alarm
>>Viewed Online : No
>>Description : Postings to a group I subscribe to have quit coming to me the
>> last 4 days. I found out from personal >correspondence with some of the
>> members that postings have been quite active in this time.
>>I have checked my settings and found nothing in my filters that would cause
>> me to not be getting these postings.
>>All my other folders are receiving mail.
>>Have you instituted a new procedure the last few days that would be
>> blocking these messages?
>>The unreceived postings have the word "LEGACY" in the "From" or "Subject"
>> lines
>>I would appreciate a prompt reply to this problem if possible.
>>Thank you
>>Gary Crull



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RE: [LegacyUG] Re: Security Question

[ronald ferguson]

Mark,
 
I was looking for your post this morning, but couldn't find it. I agree with 
Tim, and would suggest that you go to the tab Legacy Home>Options>Options and 
check the rado button "never contact the internet..".

Ron Ferguson
 
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> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Re: Security Question
> Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2008 08:01:16 -0700
> 
> Legacy News from the "Home Tab" is being sent as well as your version check 
> would be my best guess. Also being no one else has reported that problem, I 
> would fine tune your firewall. BTW, is it the firewall built into XP or 
> another 3rd party program. Or are you not running XP with a third party 
> program.
> Tim
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Mark Wilson" 
> To: 
> Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 9:46 PM
> Subject: [LegacyUG] Re: Security Question
> 
> 
>>
>> When Legacy v7.0.0.76 launches, my firewall gives a warning that Legacy
>> Genealogy Software is sending my "home address" information to
>> www.legacyfamilytree.com. As a security issue, what actual information
>> is being sent? Is it used for anything more than just page requests and
>> hot-links for the tabbed "Legacy Home" window?
>>
>> Thanks!
>> Mark Wilson
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[LegacyUG] Descendant Book Register Report that Includes Address and Contact Info ?

[Stuart Einbinder]

I was very disappointed that the new version did not include the following
suggestion that I made in early July and was to be passed on to the
programmers. "Please allow for the check boxes in the "Individual Addresses"
to be included in the printed Descendent Books reports. That option is
greyed out now." 

 

 

Is there any instance where the option (using the check boxes) of including
"Individual Addresses" in the printed Descendent Books reports is NOT greyed
out? 

 

Does anyone know of any way to get a Descendant Report (Book Style - not a
chart) that includes address and contact info?

 

Thanks!

 

Stu E.

 





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[LegacyUG] [LegacyUserGroup] List Posting Error Notification

[LegacyUserGroup-owner]

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Re: [LegacyUG] Heritage collector Suite

[Mary Figgins]

I don't know why my message when through 3 times but thank you for the 
responses.  I was able to get a couple email addresses for them and have 
received snapshots from them.

Mary Beth Figgin

Mary Figgins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I'm thinking about getting this program 
but can't find any contact information for the publisher on their website.  Is 
anyone else using it?  I'd like to get an idea of the information it records 
about the photo.  Would it be possible for someone to email me direct with 
snapshots of some of the data screens?

Thank you for any help.

Mary Beth Figgins

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Re: [LegacyUG] Can't use certain reports

[Tim Rosenlof]

Changed to list text format

Arleen,
This has already been reported and confirmed.
Tim

- Original Message - 
From: Arleen Huesman

To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 6:28 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Can't use certain reports


I am also having this problem. This is happening on the Vista OS computer. 
The XP OS computer is working fine. Is it a problem with Legacy and Vista?


Thanks. Arleen Huesman


On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 9:31 AM, Bernard Doddema <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:


When I go to Reports, All Reports, there are two reports that I cannot 
access: Form Center and Interview Questions


I receive no errors, I'm just not directed to the requested forms.

Does anybody have any ideas what could be wrong?

Thank you.

PS: Just installed the update 7.0.0.76
--
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Re: [LegacyUG] Re: Security Question

[Tim Rosenlof]

Legacy News from the "Home Tab" is being sent as well as your version check 
would be my best guess. Also being no one else has reported that problem, I 
would fine tune your firewall. BTW, is it the firewall built into XP or 
another 3rd party program. Or are you not running XP with a third party 
program.

Tim

- Original Message - 
From: "Mark Wilson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 9:46 PM
Subject: [LegacyUG] Re: Security Question




When Legacy v7.0.0.76 launches, my firewall gives a warning that Legacy
Genealogy Software is sending my "home address" information to
www.legacyfamilytree.com.  As a security issue, what actual information
is being sent?  Is it used for anything more than just page requests and
hot-links for the tabbed "Legacy Home" window?

Thanks!
Mark Wilson


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[LegacyUG] [LegacyUserGroup] List Posting Error Notification

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Re: [LegacyUG] Source text not showing in reports when useing New SourceWriter

[Grover Oliver]

Good point.
I'll have to check tonight when I get home for the exact template and
if it occures on more than one template. I was working with online
Newspaper obituaries. I had two examples one created yesterday and one
several months ago but both used the same template.
Thanks,
G.C.

On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 6:40 AM, ronald ferguson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Using which template, or all, and in which report, or all?
>
> Ron Ferguson
>
> _
>
> *New Tutorial* Publish your Web Pages  - Blogs
> http://www.fergys.co.uk
> View the Grimshaw Family Tree at:
> http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/
> For The Fergusons of N.W. England See:
> http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/
> _
>
>
>
>
>
>
>> Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2008 06:34:48 -0500
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
>> Subject: [LegacyUG] Source text not showing in reports when useing New 
>> SourceWriter
>>
>> I have just noticed that the text of sources I have created in the new
>> SourceWriter will not print. I have the include first time box
>> checked, both on the Master Source and in global options . This is not
>> a problem with sources created before sourcewriter. I have the latest
>> build (7.0.0.76).
>> Is there another place to look?
>> G.C. Oliver
>>
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RE: [LegacyUG] Margaret Married Someone

[ronald ferguson]

Kirsten,
 
I have tied to reproduce this, albeit a day late, but cannot. I have tried 
various ways - including some which crashed Legacy.
 
I leave unknowns as blank, so maybe this was why I haven't spotted it, but 
changing to the "Unknown" default made no difference. One question though - you 
say that the husband's name appears as "Someone Joe Blogs", if it actually uses 
"someone" then how are you putting that in, when the default is unknown?
 
The new husband is overwriting the "Unknown" btw. I also take it that to enter 
the husband's details you are using the "enter new person" option.

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> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Margaret Married Someone
> Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 18:45:54 -0800
> 
> Ron:
> 
> I could follow that logic if it did indeed result in two marriages--one to
> "someone" and another to William Hood--but it doesn't. To start afresh, one
> might have a bride's name and date of marriage but no name for the groom
> (unlikely, but possible). Entering that would result in "Margaret married
> someone." No problem. If you later found and entered the groom's name,
> that should result in "Margaret married William Hood" rather than "Margaret
> married someone William Hood."
> 
> Kirsten
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of
> ronald ferguson
> Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 5:08 PM
> To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Margaret Married Someone
> 
> 
> 
> Kirsten,
> 
> With respect you are not using computer logic. You are telling the computer
> to marry the daughter. So it does just that, but since it knows that for a
> marriage to exist there must be a partner it kindly provides one.
> 
> You then tell the computer to marrry a guy to that same woman, so not
> knowing that the guy is the partner which it had previously arranged, it
> does exactly as requested. Hence by complying with the requests - two
> husbands.
> 
> It really isn't based on a matter of sequence but a matter of logic .
> 
> Ron Ferguson
> 
> _
> 
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> http://www.fergys.co.uk
> View the Grimshaw Family Tree at:
> http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/
> For The Fergusons of N.W. England See:
> http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/
> _
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
>> Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Margaret Married Someone
>> Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 16:33:39 -0800
>>
>> Ron:
>>
>> In a sense I am marrying her to an unknown person for a moment. From the
>> Family View I'm adding a new daughter. Then I go to her Individual
>> Information and enter her date and place of birth, go back to her Family
>> View and click on Marriage Information and add that, then added her
>> husband's name in his Individual Information screen.
>>
>> It's a matter of sequence: I entered the marriage date and place before
> the
>> husband's name, which is what triggered the "someone." I would expect that
>> then adding the husband's name would override the "someone" rather than
>> leaving both in the report.
>>
>> Kirsten
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of
>> ronald ferguson
>> Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 1:38 PM
>> To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com
>> Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Margaret Married Someone
>>
>>
>> Kirsten,
>>
>> Your procedure is not clear. When you add the child - how, are you
> clicking
>> the space for children below the parents or one of the alternative
> methods?
>> How are you getting to the marriage screen - are you going to the child
> and
>> clicking the husbands box or another method - if so which?
>>
>> It sounds as though what you are doing is clicking the marriage bar below
>> the child to enter the marriage details - if so you are marrying her to an
>> unknown person. It's the same as at church, the vicar needs to know who
>> somone is marrying :-)
>>
>> Ron Ferguson
>>
>> _
>>
>> *New Tutorial* Publish your Web Pages - Blogs
>> http://www.fergys.co.uk
>> View the Grimshaw Family Tree at:
>> http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/
>> For The Fergusons of N.W. England See:
>> http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/
>> _
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfa

RE: [LegacyUG] Source text not showing in reports when useing New SourceWriter

[ronald ferguson]

Using which template, or all, and in which report, or all?

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> Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2008 06:34:48 -0500
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Subject: [LegacyUG] Source text not showing in reports when useing New 
> SourceWriter
> 
> I have just noticed that the text of sources I have created in the new
> SourceWriter will not print. I have the include first time box
> checked, both on the Master Source and in global options . This is not
> a problem with sources created before sourcewriter. I have the latest
> build (7.0.0.76).
> Is there another place to look?
> G.C. Oliver
> 
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[LegacyUG] Source text not showing in reports when useing New SourceWriter

[Grover Oliver]

I have just noticed that the text of sources I have created in the new
SourceWriter will not print. I have the include first time box
checked, both on the Master Source and in global options . This is not
a problem with sources created before sourcewriter. I have the latest
build (7.0.0.76).
Is there another place to look?
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RE: [LegacyUG] Help with deleting a family

[ronald ferguson]

June
 
If you do not have many, in Index View just right click on them and delete.

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> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Subject: [LegacyUG] Help with deleting a family
> Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2008 19:11:29 +1000
> 
> Hello Steve
> 
> I followed your steps - but think that I must have misunderstood who the
> root person was/is because I clicked on my non great great grandmother but
> still ended up deleting my great great grandfather and all his ancestors.
> 
> Could you please advise.
> 
> Thank you - June
> 
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RE: [LegacyUG] Listserv spam/HTML issues (Was: Legacy Question)

[ronald ferguson]

This is not possible for many web based email senders, and I, for one will only 
use this type on for public emails. Ron Ferguson 
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_ > Date: 
Tue, 2 Dec 2008 22:06:30 -0800> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: 
[LegacyUG] Listserv spam/HTML issues (Was: Legacy Question)> To: 
LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com> > Sorry, but ALL users ahould have their 
e-mail client set to send ONLY in text. HTML should never, Never, NEVER, be 
used in e-mail-for *any* reason-period.> > Truth be told, Emails clients 
shouldn't even recognize HTML. Browsers yes- E-Mail clients no.> > > --- On 
Tue, 12/2/08, Steve Voght <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> > > From: Steve Voght 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> > Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Listserv spam/HTML issues (Was: 
Legacy Question)> > To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com> > Date: Tuesday, 
December 2, 2008, 10:13 PM> > With all due respect to everyone who keeps 
arguing that HTML> > messages> > are the bane of the world and the cause of 
problems on this> > list, the> > two biggest issues with the spam flagging are 
undoubtedly> > the> > onslaught of repetitive error messages about not being> > 
subscribed to> > the list (spam heuristics look for frequent message> > 
repetition as a> > sign of spam), and the spamming issue last month when> > 
someone hijacked> > Geoff's Legacy email address and was using it to send> > 
fake Rolex> > messages to the list. As people kept tagging those> > messages as 
spam,> > filters were learning that messages originating from LUG> > were 
likely> > to be spam and thus the spam score goes up on all LUG> > messages.> > 
> > Whoever maintains this list needs to deal with the error> > messages> > 
because it is dramatically adding to the burden on end> > users> > downloading 
the messages, and it is also adding extra> > messages as> > people keep 
responding asking why they are receiving them> > in the first> > place and what 
they did wrong.> > > > With regard to HTML messages, virtually every mailing 
list> > management> > program has an option to strip the HTML from messages> > 
before passing> > them on, and if a list actually wants to implement a> > 'no 
HTML' policy> > then that is really the only way to do it properly. > > 
Expecting end> > users to maintain compliance is asking for trouble, both in> > 
terms of> > new users getting regularly chided by seasoned listers when> > they 
make> > a mistake by sending an HTML message, and additionally> > because one 
of> > the stated concerns about HTML email is that it might> > contain a virus> 
> (an extremely remote possibility, but still of potential> > concern to> > 
some people.) In that case, having the list server strip> > HTML is the> > 
*only* way to ensure this is prevented. Otherwise you give> > end users a> > 
false sense of security because they think they are on a> > list that> > bans 
HTML, yet it still comes through with high frequency> > (I know I've> > been 
guilty of sending an HTML message or two by mistake!)> > > > Furthermore 
concerning the other, more legitimate, issue> > with HTML> > messages (file 
size), having the list software strip it out> > before> > sending has the added 
advantage of decreasing the size of> > the messages> > before passing them to 
the end users, which improves the> > speed they> > are downloaded for dial-up 
users.> > > > I don't know what program Millennium uses to maintain> > this 
list so I> > can't be absolutely certain such a feature is included,> > but if 
it> > isn't then perhaps it's time to switch us to> > something more robust 
and> > better able to deal with these frequent errors that crop> > up. In the> 
> end we'll all be able to talk more about genealogy> > research and spend> > 
less time discussing the mailing list itself.> > > > Cheers,> > Steve> > > > On 
Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 1:22 PM, Mike Fry> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> > > Hope 
Bagot Bees wrote:> > >>> > >> Has your spam or antivirus blocked Legacy> > 
postings? I keep getting a> > >> message from Thunderbird suggesting that 
Legacy> > postings are a scam, which I> > >> have to refute.> > >> > > That's 
because people insist on using HTML and> > they express the latest> > > version 
as 7.0.0.76 which in HTML looks like an IP> > address. The implication> > > 
according to Thunderbird, is that the message wants> > you to go to that web> > 
> site. Hence, a possible scam!> > >> > > --> > > Regards,> > > Mike Fry> > > 
Johannesburg.> > 
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Re: [LegacyUG] Error Message 3021

[Dermot McGlone]

Vicki,

I've seen this happen a few times.  try a Check/Repair.  it usually
fixes it.  If not, come back to the LUG.

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2008/12/2 v pedersen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Hello Again,
>
>
> Now that I am starting to understand the backup procedure, I notice that I am 
> on to the next problem.
>
> When I try to add a new individual to my family file, I am getting the 
> following Error Message:
>
> Error getting next deleted RIN.
> Error 3021: No current record.
> Would you like to TRY IT AGAIN?
>
>
> If I select Yes, it just keeps giving me the same error message.
> If I select No, it goes to the normal Add screen and then proceeds normally.  
> When I proceed to add an individual, an RIN number is assigned, and so I'm 
> not sure what is going on.
>
> Why am I getting this error message and what can I do to stop getting it?
>
>
> I apologize for having to ask so many questions.
>
>
> Vicki
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy question

[Dermot McGlone]

Gary replied to me personally with the following message:


2008/12/2 Gary Crull <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Dermot,
>
> No, the question wasn't directed to you personally, ...


> I BCC'd myself on my posting. I got that one, but the posting to the group
> never showed up, nor did my reply to the 4 of you who took the time to
> answer me personally. I don't know what the screw up is.
>
> The question I was going to pose to the group was that it's taking me
> FOREVER to get Legacy to open - like up to 2 minutes! It seems to 'lock
> down' everything (even the clock freezes up) but eventually does open and
> works correctly.
>
> I was wondering if anyone else had had this problem.
>
> gc
>
So if anyone can answer Gary's 2 questions, I can pass them back to
him if he doesn't get them.  The 2 questions are (1) why is Legacy
locking up and (2) why isn't he getting messages, although he can send
messages.

In answer to your second question, Gary, have you checked your spam or
antivirus for blocked posts?  Is it somehow blocking all posts from
the LUG.  Perhaps you marked the messages coming from "Ken" as spam
and now it has blocked all LUG messages.

Regards,

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Re: [LegacyUG] how to number docs on screen

[Gen Searcher]

Hello  Jay
Thanks for your response it seems like the idea I had 
Regards
John
- Original Message - 
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To: 
Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 9:58 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] how to number docs on screen


> John,
> 
> I make an image copy of the Census and name it according to year, location, 
> Enumeration district and page.
> 
> 1900WisconsinBrownGreenBayED09Page07b
> 
> Then I have an Event called Census and in the description field I add the 
> same info  AND the Line #
>SNIP 
> Jay




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Re: [LegacyUG] Help Please on Source Template Overrides

[Jenny M Benson]

Kay Fordham wrote
I'm seeing another problem that may have compounded my confusion 
previously. I just copied the below-mentioned source to the clipboard, 
then applied it to another individual.  The detail screen then popped 
up and I changed the information as appropriate for the new individual 
and saved it.  The Output Preview still shows the details for the 
original Detail Screen - not the change made.


Is anyone else having this problem?  Doesn't seem feasible that I would 
need to do an override on the detail screen rather than just change 
data and save it.  Or is this the way it works?


My brain's a bit fuzzy at the moment (combination of heavy cold and cold 
cures!) but I think I have worked through this correctly:


Working in the Source Detail screen, if you enter the Details on the 
first tab, then click the Override tab there will be nothing entered in 
the boxes, but if you click on "click here to go to the overrides tab" 
the boxes will have the citations entered ready for you to edit.


If you copy a Source which has overrides to the Source Clipboard, then 
paste it, it will paste with the overrides included and the checkbox 
ticked for using that override.  If you make changes to the Source 
Detail and then want to incorporate these into an Override, you need to 
make your Detail changes, then click "the output has been overridden by 
the user.  Click here ..." and then re-write your override sentence, not 
just change the bits you have changed on the details screen.


I hope that makes sense!
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Re: [LegacyUG] [LegacyUserGroup] List Posting Error Notification

[Lhite31]

I am getting tired of receiving these messages so I am going to unsubscribe  
from this list until it is fixed. It used to not be much of a problem but now 
I  can click the delete button and it is still there. I have to click delete 3 
or 4  times before it is deleted.
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[LegacyUG] Help with deleting a family

[June Chan]

Hello Steve

I followed your steps - but think that I must have misunderstood who the
root person was/is because I clicked on my non great great grandmother but
still ended up deleting my great great grandfather and all his ancestors.

Could you please advise.

Thank you - June






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Re: [LegacyUG] Listserv spam/HTML issues (Was: Legacy Question)

[Steve Voght]

One thing to note with those error messages is that their subject line
has two list names prefixing it: [LegacyUG] and [LegacyUserGroup].
All legitimate group messages are only prefixed by [LegacyUG]. This
implies to me that there's an old (or alternate) list with the name
[LegacyUserGroup] and somehow there is cross-talk between them.

(Below is a bit of speculation on my part, so all you Legacy users can
just ignore this and let the tech people laugh at my wild theories...)

Perhaps Ken is sending messages to a listserv address associated with
[LegacyUserGroup], which is then forwarding the messages to the
correct [LegacyUG] group, but [LegacyUG] rejects them because it
doesn't recognize Ken's address (or perhaps the [LegacyUserGroup]
listserv address) as a subscriber to [LegacyUG].  Meanwhile, because
the mailing lists are set up to REPLY-TO the listserv address, the
[LegacyUG] rejection message is sent back to the [LegacyUserGroup]
list (using the REPLY-TO instead of the FROM).  Then [LegacyUserGroup]
receives it and treats it like any other message, again forwarding it
to [LegacyUG] like outlined above.  This time the FROM address matches
a subscribed user (the [LegacyUG] listserv address itself!), so
finally these rejection messages get sent along to all of us, and we
get frustrated.

Or maybe it's something really silly, like a case-sensitive address?
LegacyUserGroup@ versus [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 9:47 PM, Sherry/Support
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Steve,
>
> Ken is trying to figure out what's going on with the rejection messages.
>
> Our mailing list software doesn't give us the option to strip or block HTML
> messages or attachments, unfortunately.



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RE: [LegacyUG] Help with deleting a family

[June Chan]

Thank you Steve - I am using 7 Deluxe so all should be well.

Regards

June

-Original Message-
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To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Help with deleting a family


Hi June,

You should be able to do this with advanced tagging and deleting.
These instructions work for Legacy 7 Deluxe -- I can't speak for which
features are available in Legacy 6 or the basic version. You need to
find a tag you aren't using for other purposes (and enable tagging
options from Options > Customize > General if you have not done so.)






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Re: [LegacyUG] Help with deleting a family

[Steve Voght]

Hi June,

You should be able to do this with advanced tagging and deleting.
These instructions work for Legacy 7 Deluxe -- I can't speak for which
features are available in Legacy 6 or the basic version. You need to
find a tag you aren't using for other purposes (and enable tagging
options from Options > Customize > General if you have not done so.)

First select the root individual of the family you want to delete.
Then go to Edit > Tag Records... (or ctrl-T), select the tag number to
use, then select the Ancestors... button, and select the "Entire
Ancestor Line" button.  Hit OK, and now the non-grandmother and all of
her family should be tagged.  Close the tagging window.

Next go to Tools > Advanced Deleting... and select the tag number that
you assigned above.  To be safe you can leave the "confirm each
deletion" button checked, and then it will prompt you for each
individual as it queues them up to be deleted from the database.
Simply confirm until they are all gone!

When you're done, you might want to verify there aren't any stray
individuals remaining from that branch by going to View > Tree Finder,
select "Refresh" and make sure that you don't have any unexpected
unlinked individuals.

Cheers,
Steve

On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 10:50 PM, June Chan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Could someone please assist me (in simple sentences) to deleting a family.
>
> I have a great great grandfather with a wife attached, I also have much
> information included about the wife's family, ancestors, siblings etc.
> However I have now found out that that person is not the wife and that whole
> family grouping is of no connection to me and so I want to delete them.  I
> tried to delete them this morning but instead managed to delete not only my
> great great grandfather but everyone from him back. Thank goodness for a
> backup. I then went to unlink but again managed only to make my great great
> grandfather disappear again. Any restore has put things back the way they
> were.
>
> I am obviously doing something wrong but am unable to find who it is. Any
> help would be appreciated.
>
> Thank you - June



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