[LegacyUG] What I learned about renaming backups
I thought someone might be interested in knowing how I resolved a maddening problem posted here on Dec 6 (10:46, "Mirrored marriages - spreading like a disease"). First, thanks to Paul Croteau and Ron Ferguson for responding with detailed, informative suggestions. In reply to Paul, yes, my backup file was also corrupt; I hadn't noticed until then (a more savvy user certainly would have). And it was the only one I had on my hard drive; a few months ago I'd cleaned out old backups (too much clutter!) and just kept one, updating with the "replace" option. That was a mistake; spoiling chances of keeping a clean copy at hand. Fortunately, my houscleaning hadn't yet got to portable storage, but I'd been thinking about it. From now on I'll rename every backup with a visible date tag and just let them all pile up. In answer to Ron, no I wasn't using the latest version but am now; and I've saved your tips for any emergency . *** Holiday discounts on Legacy 7.0, add-ons, books, and more. Visit http://tinyurl.com/65rpbt. *** Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
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Re: [LegacyUG] Locations - when a village becomes a city
This is a classic issue of accuracy versus clarity, and there are people on this group that fall on both sides of the divide, so you'll probably get a few different opinions on this question. My own take is that genealogy is an attempt to record events and facts in their contemporary setting (variant spellings and all), and not to second-guess details or "bring them into the present", so to speak. Thus, your proposed solution of using several location names makes the most sense to me, with the added suggestion that you use the location notes field (accessible via the Master Location List) to provide some of the historical detail that you've mentioned here about Tonawanda and North Tonawanda. The downside to this solution is that it can be difficult to locate old records based on the location, because although a person might have died in Wheatfield in 1865, you'll need to know that the records are now located in the City of North Tonawanda. Thus you will need to be careful about adding notes with such details regarding the current setting of locations that no longer exist or have changed names (and don't even get me started on the added complication of there also being a Town of Tonawanda!) The converse argument suggests that you stick with modern names for events regardless of the time when they occurred, which can make things somewhat easier to read through (thus it reads that the person lived in NT for their entire life, versus jumping around to various location names which at first glance can make it seem like they moved, even though it was merely the civil boundaries that moved.) Taking this route can lead to complications down the road when someone realizes that there was no such location as North Tonawanda in 1855, and questions the accuracy of your data. Best of luck, Steve On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 5:29 PM, M. Brenzel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I guess that the "List Posting Error Notification" was true for me. I > somehow was unsubscribed from the list. I have received no messages for > days. I sent this message to the list on Saturday and when I didn't get it > back, I realized that I hadn't received messages in awhile. > > --- > > Just wondering whether others have encountered something like this and if > so, how they've handled it - > > The city in which I live became a city in 1897. Prior to that, it was a > village. Would you list it once without the title of village or city, add > it to all events and facts that occurred there regardless of when in its > history and add location notes giving the dates in which the transition took > place? > > Prior to being a village, it was part of a neighboring town. This occurred > when it split from other wards of another village. And to further > complicate things, the 3 other wards were in a different county across the > Erie Canal! > > Here are the details - > > 1854 - Village of Tonawanda formed with 3 wards in Erie County (which later > became City of Tonawanda) and 1 ward in Niagara County > 1857 - ward in Niagara County split from village and became part of Town of > Wheatfield > 1865 - Village of North Tonawanda formed > 1897 - City of North Tonawanda established > > I was thinking of having the following locations: > > Tonawanda, Erie County, New York, USA (for all events that occurred in the 3 > wards of the village and in the future City of Tonawanda) Tonawanda, Niagara > County, New York, USA (for those events in the 1 ward of the village between > 1854 and 1857) Wheatfield, Niagara County, New York, USA (for those events > between 1857 and 1865) North Tonawanda, Niagara County, New York, USA (for > everything since 1865) > > Does this make sense? > > Thanks! > > Mary *** Holiday discounts on Legacy 7.0, add-ons, books, and more. Visit http://tinyurl.com/65rpbt. *** Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] Error 3314
This posting is "a" solution to the occurrence of Error 3314 which I have seen in a number of postings, mostly in quite different circumstances. It seems that Error 3314 reflects some type of database corruption that is not easy to find. I am using Legacy 7.0.0.76 and using the Basic Source System. I have no Pictures linked to the Family File database in question. In my case I had a Source Clipboard citing a Master source, and with Source detail assigned. The Source Clipboard had been saved. Whenever I tried to add the Clipboard Source to any appropriate data field, the following message and selection box appeared: Error saving Picture. Error 3314: The field 'tblBR.IDBPPic' cannot contain a Null value because the Required property for this field is set to True. Enter a value in this field. Would you like to TRY IT AGAIN? Yes No Quit Choosing Yes or No just regenerates the message. Choosing Quit assigns the source to the field and crashes out of Legacy. No amount of checking/database repair/re-entry of Source/ etc etc affects the problem, which only applies to the one Family File Database. I was only able to correct the problem by exporting the Family File database to a gedcom file, deleting the original Family File, and then importing it back. Peter *** Holiday discounts on Legacy 7.0, add-ons, books, and more. Visit http://tinyurl.com/65rpbt. *** Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
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RE: [LegacyUG] Error 3314
Peter, The message says that your picture file is corrupted and you have an empty field where one is not allowed. It is possible that this may have been resolved by going to View>Master Lists>Picture Locations>Options and selecting "Purge Unused" may have resolved the problem. Ron Ferguson _ *New Tutorial* Publish your Web Pages - Blogs http://www.fergys.co.uk View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com > Subject: [LegacyUG] Error 3314 > Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2008 22:53:03 +1100 > > This posting is "a" solution to the occurrence of Error 3314 > which I have seen in a number of postings, mostly in quite > different circumstances. It seems that Error 3314 reflects > some type of database corruption that is not easy to find. > > I am using Legacy 7.0.0.76 > and using the Basic Source System. > I have no Pictures linked to the Family File database in > question. > > In my case I had a Source Clipboard citing a Master source, > and with Source detail assigned. The Source Clipboard > had been saved. Whenever I tried to add the Clipboard > Source to any appropriate data field, the following message > and selection box appeared: > Error saving Picture. > Error 3314: The field 'tblBR.IDBPPic' cannot contain > a Null value because the Required property for this > field is set to True. Enter a value in this field. > Would you like to TRY IT AGAIN? > Yes No Quit > > Choosing Yes or No just regenerates the message. > Choosing Quit assigns the source to the field and crashes > out of Legacy. > > No amount of checking/database repair/re-entry of Source/ > etc etc affects the problem, which only applies to the one > Family File Database. > > I was only able to correct the problem by exporting the Family > File database to a gedcom file, deleting the original Family File, > and then importing it back. > > Peter > > > > > *** Holiday discounts on Legacy 7.0, add-ons, books, and more. Visit > http://tinyurl.com/65rpbt. *** > Legacy User Group guidelines: > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp > Archived messages: > http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ > Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp > To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp > > > _ Live Search presents Big Snap II - win John Lewis vouchers http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/117442309/direct/01/ *** Holiday discounts on Legacy 7.0, add-ons, books, and more. Visit http://tinyurl.com/65rpbt. *** Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Master Source Subsequent Citation Issue
Hi everyone, Firstly, before I start, please understand that in relation to many who are members of the LUG, I spend much less time on family history and secondly, my area of expertise definitely lies elsewhere. I have not followed this thread fully, but have been delighted to read a couple of recent posts by Elizabeth Shown Mills. I agree entirely that we should have a standard method of citing sources (at least in theory!). The opening section of Evidence Explained includes some very sound advice which can and should be applied to the areas of research in most disciplines. I know I have mentioned some of the points below before, but would value Elizabeth's input. This is specifically to do with the 'Letter' template, but may well be applicable to other templates. If you fill in the field boxes 'correctly', at the end of the Footnote/Endnote Citation, the information could read: "privately held by Brookes" and the Subsequent Citation could read "Brookes to Brookes, 11 Mar 2008". Apart from the issue that I hate being referred to by my surname, there are many Brookes surnames in my database, therefore the clarity one hopes to achieve by being consistent with sources has straight away been compromised. To override the source citation would mean it would no longer conform to the 'suggested standard format'. I remember reading a light-hearted book, that professed to help people pass exams, where it suggested that in desperation, the writer might even make a statement up and attribute it to, for example, someone like Churchill. By using, just the surname, firstly one is not telling the reader that it is specifically Winston Churchill, and secondly, it would be difficult to prove - because he said so much, nobody would be able to deny that he ever made the remark just attributed to him. Surely a similar vagueness is achieved by just using the surname in our family histories. I know there are occasions when surnames are used as a form of identification/protocol, but my argument is that, while we are questioning the standard way we record sources and how those sources are cited, we ought to question whether this should be acceptable. The way Legacy is set up encourages me to split sources up into very small units. This has implications for the way sources are cited. In Legacy the master source is attached to the individual but the detailed source is copied. This means that any alteration to a master source is done once only, but individuals who are using the same detailed source have to be first of all located, and then altered separately. I know there is a clipboard to help, but, for me, this is sometimes a bit fiddly and occasionally has not worked correctly. As a consequence, I have a census source for each individual address - that way I can easily locate individual living at the same address, by view list, and if necessary make the appropriate alterations. If the software was set up in a different way (i.e. by attaching the same detail sources rather than copying them), I would be more inclined to lump sources together in the way Elizabeth Shone Mills suggests (into year and county, for the U.K). As it is, because of the software I go against what Elizabeth says on pg 259 of 'Evidence Explained', that "Most researchers find that the Source List is not the place to list census entries by household or personal name. That level of detail in a Source List soon makes the list unmanageable." For me, it makes it unmanageable for me to lump households together in Legacy. The implication that a source for a census should be on a year/county 'level' and that a source for a letter (or as it was, for an email) should be on an individual letter 'level' to me seems somewhat unequal. Under these terms, a single source for a census might be shared by a hundred people or more, but a letter might only be a source for one individual. Having each letters or email as an individual source would generate just as much of a problem for some as lots of census sources. We have discussed this many times before on the LUG, but how we use the software has an implication for how our sources are cited. It's easy for me - my database is small and probably always will be, my aim being to find out more detail about how my ancestors lived rather that adding hundreds of names that mean little to me - I would not have the time to research thousands of people in detail (and I know some of you do), but at least I will be able to leave my children a little knowledge about their ancestors and how they lived. If we are to adhere to or to create a standard for citing sources, does it automatically follow that we should adopt a standard method for inputting information into the software which we choose? I we did this the software would automatically generate our citations in the correct and acceptable way, which will presumably allow others to find the information once more. Or perhaps we all get too hung up on these thing
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[LegacyUG] source for cause of death isn't showing up in reports
I have sourced a cause of death in the Medical Notes, it shows in the Assigned Sources dialog box, but not in the Individual or FG report. It looks like it worked before the last upgrade. Suggestions? Elaine *** Holiday discounts on Legacy 7.0, add-ons, books, and more. Visit http://tinyurl.com/65rpbt. *** Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Update 7.0.0.76
Jan Roberts wrote After getting your first response I double checked all the options for the Individual Report, and I can't see the option to use and / or remove quoted names. Where do you see it? Report Options, on the Format tab, left hand side near the bottom of the first block of options. For most Reports I will have both the Quoted Names options checked, which means that Reports will read something like "Jennifer Margaret Dodd was born ...Jenny was married...Noted Events in Jenny's life were ..." -- Jenny M Benson *** Holiday discounts on Legacy 7.0, add-ons, books, and more. Visit http://tinyurl.com/65rpbt. *** Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
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Re: [LegacyUG] What I learned about renaming backups
You don't have to name the backups yourself. The latest version of Legacy does that for you. - JL JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists http://www.jgen.ws/jlog Roy Ferguson wrote: I thought someone might be interested in knowing how I resolved a maddening problem posted here on Dec 6 (10:46, "Mirrored marriages - spreading like a disease"). First, thanks to Paul Croteau and Ron Ferguson for responding with detailed, informative suggestions. In reply to Paul, yes, my backup file was also corrupt; I hadn't noticed until then (a more savvy user certainly would have). And it was the only one I had on my hard drive; a few months ago I'd cleaned out old backups (too much clutter!) and just kept one, updating with the "replace" option. That was a mistake; spoiling chances of keeping a clean copy at hand. Fortunately, my houscleaning hadn't yet got to portable storage, but I'd been thinking about it. From now on I'll rename every backup with a visible date tag and just let them all pile up. In answer to Ron, no I wasn't using the latest version but am now; and I've saved your tips for any emergency . *** Holiday discounts on Legacy 7.0, add-ons, books, and more. Visit http://tinyurl.com/65rpbt. *** Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp *** Holiday discounts on Legacy 7.0, add-ons, books, and more. Visit http://tinyurl.com/65rpbt. *** Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] source for cause of death isn't showing up in reports
I just cleaned up some missing citations, so I'll jump in on this. (I assume that the cause of death, itself, is showing up, just without the source citation.) On the Source Detail panel, ensure that the box is checked for "Include this Citation on Reports". If this is not checked, the citation previews at the bottom of the Assigned Sources panel will be blank, and the footnotes will be missing from reports. Ward - Original Message - From: "Elaine Shuman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2008 10:54 AM Subject: [LegacyUG] source for cause of death isn't showing up in reports I have sourced a cause of death in the Medical Notes, it shows in the Assigned Sources dialog box, but not in the Individual or FG report. It looks like it worked before the last upgrade. Suggestions? Elaine *** Holiday discounts on Legacy 7.0, add-ons, books, and more. Visit http://tinyurl.com/65rpbt. *** Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Report Problems
Both Individual Report and Family Group Record work fine for me (7.0.0.76Deluxe, XP, 2 Gb RAM) On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 10:01 PM, John S. Adams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have been playing around with Individual Reports and Family Reports in > preparation for sending some info to a group of new found cousins and > discovered the following problems: > > 1. Indiv Rpt: > Whether or not any notes are checked on the "Include" tab, "Marriage Notes" > show up > If "Show other spouses" is checked, "Marriage Notes" for all spouses are > displayed > The "Marriage Notes" choices are greyed out, as I think they should be--but > the notes should not be included in an Individual Report > > 2. Family Group Record > The "Marriage Notes" perform as expected--no apparent problem > If "General," "Research," or "Medical Notes" are selected, they appear as > follows: > General Notes: Husband - Esther Lee > General Notes: Wife - Esther Lee > Can't get the husband's name to display for notes. > > I have only viewed in Preview, have not printed. > > I have version 7.0.0.76 Deluxe; XP, 1 Gb RAM. > > Anyone else experience these problems? > > John S. Adams > Hermosa Beach, CA > > > > > > *** Holiday discounts on Legacy 7.0, add-ons, books, and more. Visit > http://tinyurl.com/65rpbt. *** > Legacy User Group guidelines: > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp > Archived messages: > http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ > Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp > To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp > > > > *** Holiday discounts on Legacy 7.0, add-ons, books, and more. Visit http://tinyurl.com/65rpbt. *** Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
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RE: [LegacyUG] Update 7.0.0.76
Oops! Thanks Jenny. I couldn't see the wood for the trees - or perhaps just didn't have my glasses on! Cheers, Jan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jenny M Benson Sent: Wednesday, 10 December 2008 3:34:AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyFamilyTree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Update 7.0.0.76 Jan Roberts wrote >After getting your first response I double checked all the options for >the Individual Report, and I can't see the option to use and / or >remove quoted names. Where do you see it? Report Options, on the Format tab, left hand side near the bottom of the first block of options. For most Reports I will have both the Quoted Names options checked, which means that Reports will read something like "Jennifer Margaret Dodd was born ...Jenny was married...Noted Events in Jenny's life were ..." -- Jenny M Benson *** Holiday discounts on Legacy 7.0, add-ons, books, and more. Visit http://tinyurl.com/65rpbt. *** Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp *** Holiday discounts on Legacy 7.0, add-ons, books, and more. Visit http://tinyurl.com/65rpbt. *** Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
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RE: [LegacyUG] Master Source Subsequent Citation Issue
Elizabeth, At last I have found the time to consider your thoughts, and there is little difference between our points of view. When I first replied I was looking from the point of view of website publishing, in a form which would hopefully assist others in their own research rather than as a research treatise. In this context I do not believe in spoon-feeding the visitor, indeed, I am less than sure that this would be beneficial to him/her in the long run. I entirely agree with your comments regarding the standards of proof being the same irrespective of whether the work is for one's own use or publication, and it would have been better, and more accurate, had I written "EG. so others might find them" rather than using "ie.". The latter does imply that that is the only or main reason for sourcing, and that is not my belief. I take your point on "bare bones citations", but that is not what I do for my personal records - eg. I attach census images to the census Source Details, but do not publish these. In any case, the publication of British census images, without a license, is a breach of crown copyright. For my own work I do much as you suggest in your subsequent paragraphs, but this work I store in my ToDos. These cannot be sourced directly but I do include full source details. For the last year I have been involved in a discussion with someone as to whether we share the same nth grandfather. He has approached the family from the female side and myself from the male side. We are both agreed the the grandfather married a woman called Ann, but which Ann? By a process of elimination he arrived at an Ann who married my grandfather, and to be fair he has checked and doubled checked but cannot find a marriage that is an 'exact' fit and he may well be correct, probably is, but that does not meet my standard of proof, As a result I will not publish the result. That is not to say I haven't got things wrong though, and my favourite character is a relation who was a daughter, then a grand-daughter to the same mother (only after her father died though, ah, ie. her grandfather), whose birth name was totally different, and who had a few children before marrying. I am still sure there is also another (female) child I have yet to find! That scenario changed several times before the current position was determined - I hesitate to say "before I got it right"! It would seem to be that our different reasons for publishing (in whatever form) lead to different conclusions as to what standard of sourcing is appropriate for the published output. This inevitably poses the question as to what should be stored in our respected sources. A decision has to be made at the outset because one cannot pick and choose what to exclude or include when compiling a report. The answer, for me the "bare bones", whereas for yourself (I think) a full citation. One could run two databases with differing 'quality' of sources, but not for me, thank you. I hope that I have made it clear that wrt standards we probably have few differences, maybe not the same approach, mais c'est la vie. I freely confess that I have not read your books, and my main problem lies not with what I believe to be their contents, but with the dogmatic way in which some people insist that the "standards" *must* be applied to all sourcing within our databases rather than as research standards. I was reasonably sure that was not your intention, and I am grateful that you have clarified your position. And, hopefully, that you feel I have clarified mine. Geoff and his team, as you say, have done a great job in programming the source templates to meet your recommendations, and we are each free to include or exclude fields (or even use them in a manner not foreseen), to suit our own objectives. IMO it was never going to be possible for the templates to cover all eventualities, but there is plenty there for us to find something which can be adapted by the user. Which is exactly why I am proceeding very slowly in changing from the old style. The tortoise did beat the hare after all. Ron Ferguson _ *New Tutorial* Publish your Web Pages - Blogs http://www.fergys.co.uk View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com > Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Master Source Subsequent Citation Issue > Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2008 04:15:47 -0600 > > Ron, > > This is the "follow up" message I promised. Side diversions came along in > the meanwhile. (Someone actually presented me with real dead people to > think about, instead of dull, dry theory :). > > You wrote: >>one day I would love to debate with you the extent to which the detail
RE: [LegacyUG] Master Source Subsequent Citation Issue
Elizabeth, At last I have found the time to consider your thoughts, and there is little difference between our points of view. When I first replied I was looking from the point of view of website publishing, in a form which would hopefully assist others in their own research rather than as a research treatise. In this context I do not believe in spoon-feeding the visitor, indeed, I am less than sure that this would be beneficial to him/her in the long run. I entirely agree with your comments regarding the standards of proof being the same irrespective of whether the work is for one's own use or publication, and it would have been better, and more accurate, had I written "EG. so others might find them" rather than using "ie.". The latter does imply that that is the only or main reason for sourcing, and that is not my belief. I take your point on "bare bones citations", but that is not what I do for my personal records - eg. I attach census images to the census Source Details, but do not publish these. In any case, the publication of British census images, without a license, is a breach of crown copyright. For my own work I do much as you suggest in your subsequent paragraphs, but this work I store in my ToDos. These cannot be sourced directly but I do include full source details. For the last year I have been involved in a discussion with someone as to whether we share the same nth grandfather. He has approached the family from the female side and myself from the male side. We are both agreed the the grandfather married a woman called Ann, but which Ann? By a process of elimination he arrived at an Ann who married my grandfather, and to be fair he has checked and doubled checked but cannot find a marriage that is an 'exact' fit and he may well be correct, probably is, but that does not meet my standard of proof, As a result I will not publish the result. That is not to say I haven't got things wrong though, and my favourite character is a relation who was a daughter, then a grand-daughter to the same mother (only after her father died though, ah, ie. her grandfather), whose birth name was totally different, and who had a few children before marrying. I am still sure there is also another (female) child I have yet to find! That scenario changed several times before the current position was determined - I hesitate to say "before I got it right"! It would seem to be that our different reasons for publishing (in whatever form) lead to different conclusions as to what standard of sourcing is appropriate for the published output. This inevitably poses the question as to what should be stored in our respected sources. A decision has to be made at the outset because one cannot pick and choose what to exclude or include when compiling a report. The answer, for me the "bare bones", whereas for yourself (I think) a full citation. One could run two databases with differing 'quality' of sources, but not for me, thank you. I hope that I have made it clear that wrt standards we probably have few differences, maybe not the same approach, mais c'est la vie. I freely confess that I have not read your books, and my main problem lies not with what I believe to be their contents, but with the dogmatic way in which some people insist that the "standards" *must* be applied to all sourcing within our databases rather than as research standards. I was reasonably sure that was not your intention, and I am grateful that you have clarified your position. And, hopefully, that you feel I have clarified mine. Geoff and his team, as you say, have done a great job in programming the source templates to meet your recommendations, and we are each free to include or exclude fields (or even use them in a manner not foreseen), to suit our own objectives. IMO it was never going to be possible for the templates to cover all eventualities, but there is plenty there for us to find something which can be adapted by the user. Which is exactly why I am proceeding very slowly in changing from the old style. The tortoise did beat the hare after all. Ron Ferguson _ *New Tutorial* Publish your Web Pages - Blogs http://www.fergys.co.uk View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com > Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Master Source Subsequent Citation Issue > Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2008 04:15:47 -0600 > > Ron, > > This is the "follow up" message I promised. Side diversions came along in > the meanwhile. (Someone actually presented me with real dead people to > think about, instead of dull, dry theory :). > > You wrote: >>one day I would love to debate with you the extent to which the detail
[LegacyUG] questions on Legacy
Hello. I'm asking for an acquaintance -- does the "free" Legacy standard download include any beginner how-to, such as the getting started lesson that is free online? I just want to be sure I'm giving her correct information. For myself: Is the current Deluxe "SourceWriter" a final version? (I understand there will always be tweaks and improvements.) > ...when Legacy's FamilySearch functionality is ready, it will be included in > the free Standard Edition. Is there a target date for this? I'm new here, and technotimid. Thanks. Dee *** Holiday discounts on Legacy 7.0, add-ons, books, and more. Visit http://tinyurl.com/65rpbt. *** Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] [LegacyUserGroup] List Posting Error Notification
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[LegacyUG] Picture links importing into Passage Express
Hi Listers Its that time of year again when a lot of us send off reports to family members with latest updates on research. So I've been working with Passage Express, importing my pictures, files and sounds from my Legacy database. After I updated to the 28 Nov build, some of my source pictures began displaying under a different individual. I've got some source pictures with a marriage event as a test, the couple aren't displaying the pictures but someone else is - who doesn't have any links to the source pictures. I've checked all the sources, the links with those three individuals and through the picture centre, run check repair and tested my multimedia paths. Passage Express doesn't change my data or links, it just imports them, so I'm at a loss as to why the links are displaying incorrectly. As a short term fix, I'll delete the pictures from the incorrect person in PE. Its a slight nuisance, I'll check all my pictures again to make sure they have come across correctly. I like the way PE works with Legacy and creates various CD/DVDs, many of my relatives who I send reports to aren't very computer savvy and the autorun CD-ROMs are a wonderful way to help them see the information in a user friendly way. Cheers Tracy *** Holiday discounts on Legacy 7.0, add-ons, books, and more. Visit http://tinyurl.com/65rpbt. *** Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] Re: Picture links importing into Passage Express
I guess my other query is - would the picture linking issue occur with other exports from Legacy, such as to gedcom files? Cheers Tracy *** Holiday discounts on Legacy 7.0, add-ons, books, and more. Visit http://tinyurl.com/65rpbt. *** Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] Index Sorting
Because of various spellings of a surname or variations of a given name there may be two individuals in the index that are actually the same person. These may be difficult to find, but sorting the index by date of birth rather than alphabetically will allow easier comparison of names in the same time frame which will sometimes reveal this duplication. This was a feature of FTM that I used quite often, but appears to be missing in Legacy. Is there any way to sort and/or search the index by date of birth? If not, what are chances for a future enhancement? *** Holiday discounts on Legacy 7.0, add-ons, books, and more. Visit http://tinyurl.com/65rpbt. *** Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Index Sorting
Chick, I haven't a clue as to whether it is likely to be a future enhancement, but if you are looking for everybody born between two dates then you can use Search>Detailed search and enter the two dates where appropriate. You can also use wildcards in the search - see the Help Files (search for wildcard and check Detailed Search in the options) for a third condition. Hence: you would search for an individual, born after AND 2nd condition born before AND 3rd condition surname Equal To Jones (with wildcard if wanted) Ron Ferguson _ *New Tutorial* Publish your Web Pages - Blogs http://www.fergys.co.uk View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ > Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2008 15:28:24 -0800 > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com > Subject: [LegacyUG] Index Sorting > > Because of various spellings of a surname or variations of a given > name there may be two individuals in the index that are actually the > same person. These may be difficult to find, but sorting the index by > date of birth rather than alphabetically will allow easier comparison > of names in the same time frame which will sometimes reveal this > duplication. This was a feature of FTM that I used quite often, but > appears to be missing in Legacy. Is there any way to sort and/or > search the index by date of birth? If not, what are chances for a > future enhancement? > .asp > > > _ Live Search presents Big Snap II - win John Lewis vouchers http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/117442309/direct/01/ *** Holiday discounts on Legacy 7.0, add-ons, books, and more. Visit http://tinyurl.com/65rpbt. *** Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Index Sorting
Ron, If you could sort by date you may find duplicates that you are unaware of. You would almost have to know who you were looking for and when they were born to find them by search. The ability to sort by date of birth is something I have long wished for, for that reason. Art Seddon Chick, I haven't a clue as to whether it is likely to be a future enhancement, but if you are looking for everybody born between two dates then you can use Search>Detailed search and enter the two dates where appropriate. You can also use wildcards in the search - see the Help Files (search for wildcard and check Detailed Search in the options) for a third condition. Hence: you would search for an individual, born after AND 2nd condition born before AND 3rd condition surname Equal To Jones (with wildcard if wanted) Ron Ferguson *** Holiday discounts on Legacy 7.0, add-ons, books, and more. Visit http://tinyurl.com/65rpbt. *** Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Index Sorting
Chick: Oh, how I miss that FTM feature and wish that Legacy would do it. My workaround is to GEDCOM my database from Legacy to an old version of FTM to do that sort and check for duplicates. Other than that, the only thing that would take me back to FTM would be if they included a seance feature or a digital crystal ball. Kirsten -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Chick Lewis Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2008 3:28 PM To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Index Sorting Because of various spellings of a surname or variations of a given name there may be two individuals in the index that are actually the same person. These may be difficult to find, but sorting the index by date of birth rather than alphabetically will allow easier comparison of names in the same time frame which will sometimes reveal this duplication. This was a feature of FTM that I used quite often, but appears to be missing in Legacy. Is there any way to sort and/or search the index by date of birth? If not, what are chances for a future enhancement? *** Holiday discounts on Legacy 7.0, add-ons, books, and more. Visit http://tinyurl.com/65rpbt. *** Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Index Sorting
We certainly do research differently. Sometimes I know a date of birth and sometimes I don't (and sometimes the date of birth I know is incorrect), so I don' t think ordering the index by DOB would necessarily put people together who might be duplicates. And certainly not if their surnames are spelled differently. Elizabeth researching the descendants of William and Sarah (Patterson) Thompson - Original Message - From: "Art Seddon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2008 4:22 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Index Sorting Ron, If you could sort by date you may find duplicates that you are unaware of. You would almost have to know who you were looking for and when they were born to find them by search. The ability to sort by date of birth is something I have long wished for, for that reason. Art Seddon Chick, I haven't a clue as to whether it is likely to be a future enhancement, but if you are looking for everybody born between two dates then you can use Search>Detailed search and enter the two dates where appropriate. You can also use wildcards in the search - see the Help Files (search for wildcard and check Detailed Search in the options) for a third condition. Hence: you would search for an individual, born after AND 2nd condition born before AND 3rd condition surname Equal To Jones (with wildcard if wanted) Ron Ferguson *** Holiday discounts on Legacy 7.0, add-ons, books, and more. Visit http://tinyurl.com/65rpbt. *** Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] Sourcewriter Template
Can anyone tell me the difference between the E-mail template for group by individual e-mails and group by correspondant? I just tried using group by correspondant and it just didn't seem to work correctly. I looked in the help files but didn't find anything. I'm using the latest build of Legacy 7. Melanie Armstrong *** Holiday discounts on Legacy 7.0, add-ons, books, and more. Visit http://tinyurl.com/65rpbt. *** Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Index Sorting
Art, I did not say that it should not be an option. What I did was to give an option that could be used if you knew the approximate name for which you were looking - and if one didn't the question would not arise - and the approximate date range. Ron Ferguson _ *New Tutorial* Publish your Web Pages - Blogs http://www.fergys.co.uk View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com > Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Index Sorting > Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2008 17:22:22 -0800 > > Ron, > > If you could sort by date you may find duplicates that you are unaware of. > You would almost have to know who you were looking for and when they were > born to find them by search. > > The ability to sort by date of birth is something I have long wished for, > for that reason. > > Art Seddon > > Chick, > > I haven't a clue as to whether it is likely to be a future enhancement, but > if you are looking for everybody born between two dates then you can use > Search>Detailed search and enter the two dates where appropriate. You can > also use wildcards in the search - see the Help Files (search for wildcard > and check Detailed Search in the options) for a third condition. > > Hence: > you would search for an individual, born after AND 2nd condition born > before AND 3rd condition surname Equal To Jones (with wildcard if wanted) > > Ron Ferguson > > _ Get a bird’s eye view of the world with Multimap http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/115454059/direct/01/ *** Holiday discounts on Legacy 7.0, add-ons, books, and more. Visit http://tinyurl.com/65rpbt. *** Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Sourcewriter Template
Well, Melanie, I know what and e-mail is, so I guess the other is snail mail :-). But that is off the top of my head as I've not looked at the latter. Ron Ferguson _ *New Tutorial* Publish your Web Pages - Blogs http://www.fergys.co.uk View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ > Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2008 17:51:51 -0800 > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [LegacyUG] Sourcewriter Template > To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyFamilyTree.com > > Can anyone tell me the difference between the E-mail template for group by > individual e-mails and group by correspondant? I just tried using group by > correspondant and it just didn't seem to work correctly. I looked in the help > files but didn't find anything. I'm using the latest build of Legacy 7. > Melanie Armstrong > _ Are you a PC? Upload your PC story and show the world http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/122465942/direct/01/ *** Holiday discounts on Legacy 7.0, add-ons, books, and more. Visit http://tinyurl.com/65rpbt. *** Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Index Sorting
Not necessarily duplicates, but comparing individuals by birth date rather than name will sometimes reveal the existence of an un-connected individual with a different name or even a name change, but enough other info to defintely place him in the correct family. Thanks for your Search Details tip, Ron, but it won't accomplish the same thing. Art and Kristen see the value of Date indexing. That is one of the reasons I keep FTM16 around. Chick On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 5:30 PM, Elizabeth Richardson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > We certainly do research differently. Sometimes I know a date of birth and > sometimes I don't (and sometimes the date of birth I know is incorrect), so > I don' t think ordering the index by DOB would necessarily put people > together who might be duplicates. And certainly not if their surnames are > spelled differently. > > Elizabeth > researching the descendants of William and Sarah (Patterson) Thompson > > - Original Message - From: "Art Seddon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2008 4:22 PM > Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Index Sorting > > >> Ron, >> >> If you could sort by date you may find duplicates that you are unaware of. >> You would almost have to know who you were looking for and when they were >> born to find them by search. >> >> The ability to sort by date of birth is something I have long wished for, >> for that reason. >> >> Art Seddon >> >> Chick, >> >> I haven't a clue as to whether it is likely to be a future enhancement, >> but >> if you are looking for everybody born between two dates then you can use >> Search>Detailed search and enter the two dates where appropriate. You can >> also use wildcards in the search - see the Help Files (search for wildcard >> and check Detailed Search in the options) for a third condition. >> >> Hence: >> you would search for an individual, born after AND 2nd condition born >> before AND 3rd condition surname Equal To Jones (with wildcard if wanted) >> >> Ron Ferguson >> > > > > *** Holiday discounts on Legacy 7.0, add-ons, books, and more. Visit > http://tinyurl.com/65rpbt. *** > Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp > Archived messages: > http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ > Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp > To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp > > > > *** Holiday discounts on Legacy 7.0, add-ons, books, and more. Visit http://tinyurl.com/65rpbt. *** Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Index Sorting
Chick, I will add to my response to Art, I am *not* against the option to sort by date. In fact I do it directly, from the database using OpenOffice.org. I was merely observing that one can search for a date range using Detailed Search. Ron Ferguson _ *New Tutorial* Publish your Web Pages - Blogshttp://www.fergys.co.uk View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ > Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2008 18:13:37 -0800> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Index Sorting> > Not necessarily duplicates, but comparing individuals by birth date> rather than name will sometimes reveal the existence of an> un-connected individual with a different name or even a name change,> but enough other info to defintely place him in the correct family.> > Thanks for your Search Details tip, Ron, but it won't accomplish the> same thing. Art and Kristen see the value of Date indexing.> That is one of the reasons I keep FTM16 around.> > Chick> > > On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 5:30 PM, Elizabeth Richardson> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> > We certainly do research differently. Sometimes I know a date of birth and> > sometimes I don't (and sometimes the date of birth I know is incorrect), so> > I don' t think ordering the index by DOB would necessarily put people> > together who might be duplicates. And certainly not if their surnames are> > spelled differently.> >> > Elizabeth> > researching the descendants of William and Sarah (Patterson) Thompson> >> > - Original Message - From: "Art Seddon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> > To: > > Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2008 4:22 PM> > Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Index Sorting> >> >> >> Ron,> >>> >> If you could sort by date you may find duplicates that you are unaware of.> >> You would almost have to know who you were looking for and when they were> >> born to find them by search.> >>> >> The ability to sort by date of birth is something I have long wished for,> >> for that reason.> >>> >> Art Seddon> >>> >> Chick,> >>> >> I haven't a clue as to whether it is likely to be a future enhancement,> >> but> >> if you are looking for everybody born between two dates then you can use> >> Search>Detailed search and enter the two dates where appropriate. You can> >> also use wildcards in the search - see the Help Files (search for wildcard> >> and check Detailed Search in the options) for a third condition.> >>> >> Hence:> >> you would search for an individual, born after AND 2nd condition born> >> before AND 3rd condition surname Equal To Jones (with wildcard if wanted)> >>> >> Ron Ferguson> _ Get Windows Live Messenger on your Mobile http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/msnnkmgl001001ukm/direct/01/ *** Holiday discounts on Legacy 7.0, add-ons, books, and more. Visit http://tinyurl.com/65rpbt. *** Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Locations - when a village becomes a city
Steve, Thank you for your response. I will continue on my current path. I started on this long trek almost 30 years ago (with many breaks in the action). I always had the locations as they are in present day but once I ran the county verifier, I found the errors in that line of thinking. So I am now in the process of fixing all of my locations, adding as you suggested, notes giving the historical changes. Not an easy task but I'm making progress. I've got 3 centuries of events in Detroit which started as a French fort, then became part of British North America, Northwest Territory, Indiana Territory and Michigan Territory before the State of Michigan was formed. Imagine straightening all of those events out! Mary -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Voght Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2008 3:43 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Locations - when a village becomes a city This is a classic issue of accuracy versus clarity, and there are people on this group that fall on both sides of the divide, so you'll probably get a few different opinions on this question. My own take is that genealogy is an attempt to record events and facts in their contemporary setting (variant spellings and all), and not to second-guess details or "bring them into the present", so to speak. Thus, your proposed solution of using several location names makes the most sense to me, with the added suggestion that you use the location notes field (accessible via the Master Location List) to provide some of the historical detail that you've mentioned here about Tonawanda and North Tonawanda. The downside to this solution is that it can be difficult to locate old records based on the location, because although a person might have died in Wheatfield in 1865, you'll need to know that the records are now located in the City of North Tonawanda. Thus you will need to be careful about adding notes with such details regarding the current setting of locations that no longer exist or have changed names (and don't even get me started on the added complication of there also being a Town of Tonawanda!) The converse argument suggests that you stick with modern names for events regardless of the time when they occurred, which can make things somewhat easier to read through (thus it reads that the person lived in NT for their entire life, versus jumping around to various location names which at first glance can make it seem like they moved, even though it was merely the civil boundaries that moved.) Taking this route can lead to complications down the road when someone realizes that there was no such location as North Tonawanda in 1855, and questions the accuracy of your data. Best of luck, Steve On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 5:29 PM, M. Brenzel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I guess that the "List Posting Error Notification" was true for me. I > somehow was unsubscribed from the list. I have received no messages for > days. I sent this message to the list on Saturday and when I didn't get it > back, I realized that I hadn't received messages in awhile. > > --- > > Just wondering whether others have encountered something like this and if > so, how they've handled it - > > The city in which I live became a city in 1897. Prior to that, it was a > village. Would you list it once without the title of village or city, add > it to all events and facts that occurred there regardless of when in its > history and add location notes giving the dates in which the transition took > place? > > Prior to being a village, it was part of a neighboring town. This occurred > when it split from other wards of another village. And to further > complicate things, the 3 other wards were in a different county across the > Erie Canal! > > Here are the details - > > 1854 - Village of Tonawanda formed with 3 wards in Erie County (which later > became City of Tonawanda) and 1 ward in Niagara County > 1857 - ward in Niagara County split from village and became part of Town of > Wheatfield > 1865 - Village of North Tonawanda formed > 1897 - City of North Tonawanda established > > I was thinking of having the following locations: > > Tonawanda, Erie County, New York, USA (for all events that occurred in the 3 > wards of the village and in the future City of Tonawanda) Tonawanda, Niagara > County, New York, USA (for those events in the 1 ward of the village between > 1854 and 1857) Wheatfield, Niagara County, New York, USA (for those events > between 1857 and 1865) North Tonawanda, Niagara County, New York, USA (for > everything since 1865) > > Does this make sense? > > Thanks! > > Mary *** Holiday discounts on Legacy 7.0, add-ons, books, and more. Visit http://tinyurl.com/65rpbt. *** Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/
Re: [LegacyUG] Sourcewriter Template
If you have 5 e-mails from the same person, group by corresponded provides you one Master Source to be used 5 times (with different Detail Source). Group by e-mail provides 5 Master Sources. Hope that heps. On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 5:51 PM, Melanie Armstrong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > Can anyone tell me the difference between the E-mail template for group by > individual e-mails and group by correspondant? I just tried using group by > correspondant and it just didn't seem to work correctly. I looked in the > help files but didn't find anything. I'm using the latest build of Legacy 7. > Melanie Armstrong > > > > *** Holiday discounts on Legacy 7.0, add-ons, books, and more. Visit > http://tinyurl.com/65rpbt. *** > Legacy User Group guidelines: > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp > Archived messages: > http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ > Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp > To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp > > > > *** Holiday discounts on Legacy 7.0, add-ons, books, and more. Visit http://tinyurl.com/65rpbt. *** Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Sourcewriter Template
Hi Melanie, The was I see it is, if you wish to site an individual email as a source you use 'group by individual emails'. If you have a series of emails to/from one person you need to use 'group by correspondant'. Personally, it is unlikely that I would use one email as a source, so I have only used the 'group by correspondant'. The way I do it is, after selecting the template, fill in as much as is necessary/ possible for the Source info. I then attach each email (from me and the correspondant) to the multimedia section, in chronological order. One problem is that people often keep the same subject line for a series of emails, so I name each attached email in the following way: e.g. "2005 12 23 (09.28) - Alice Bloggs - RE Bloggs FH" This represents the date the email is sent (which for sorting purposes I always put as MM DD), the time (in case you get more than one email on the same day with the same subject line, the person who sent the email (either me or the correspondant), and the subject line. For ease, I use the 'name' of the email as the 'caption'. (I know it means you get a really long file name, but it works for me) I do use the 'overrides' in the Master source section to read something like: Foot/Endnote: Joe Bloggs [(E-ADDRESS) FOR PRIVATE USE,] to Alice Bloggs, e-mail; privately held by Alice Bloggs. Subsequent Citation: Joe Bloggs [(E-ADDRESS) FOR PRIVATE USE,] to Alice Bloggs, e-mail; privately held by Alice Bloggs. Bibliography: Bloggs, Joe. E-mail correspondence with Alice Bloggs. Privately held by Alice Bloggs. (I do hate the surname only 'default', especially if you have a family database, where half of your surnames happen to be 'Bloggs'. It just seems lunacy to me!) When I come to cite the source to individuals and the detail screen comes up, for the 'subject line' I put: "Email Reference: 2005 11 27 (06.38) - Joe Brookes - RE Brookes FH". (Fill in the rest as you feel inclined.) I then copy the text of the particular email I am citing, in the 'Texts/Comments' section. I then have the option of using the text if I want to print out the text with the source list. (By the way, when I do this, I always leave 2 blank lines at the top of the 'Texts/Comments' box. This has the effect of leaving one line blank between the citation and the text.) Personally, I hate using the 'Detailed screen' in Legacy, because it is fiddly if you want to edit it later. Now, I'm sure many would disagree with my way of working, so please read any other responding posts before making your final decision. I would hate for you to try and use this system if there are others that appear much better. Best of luck! Best wishes David * David S Brookes Musical Director, The Brewood Singers www.brewoodsingers.co.uk Organist & Choirmaster, Polesworth Abbey www.polesworthabbey.co.uk * -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Melanie Armstrong Sent: 10 December 2008 01:52 To: Legacy user group Subject: [LegacyUG] Sourcewriter Template Can anyone tell me the difference between the E-mail template for group by individual e-mails and group by correspondant? I just tried using group by correspondant and it just didn't seem to work correctly. I looked in the help files but didn't find anything. I'm using the latest build of Legacy 7. Melanie Armstrong *** Holiday discounts on Legacy 7.0, add-ons, books, and more. Visit http://tinyurl.com/65rpbt. *** Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp *** Holiday discounts on Legacy 7.0, add-ons, books, and more. Visit http://tinyurl.com/65rpbt. *** Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] Questions on Legacy
Hello. I'm asking for an acquaintance -- does the "free" Legacy standard download include any beginner how-to, such as the getting started lesson that is free online? I just want to be sure I'm giving her correct information. For myself: Is the current Deluxe "SourceWriter" a final version? (I understand there will always be tweaks and improvements.) > ...when Legacy's FamilySearch functionality is ready, it will be included in > the free Standard Edition. Is there a target date for this? I'm new here, and technotimid. Thanks. *** Holiday discounts on Legacy 7.0, add-ons, books, and more. Visit http://tinyurl.com/65rpbt. *** Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Master Source Subsequent Citation Issue
Ron and David, I've seen your thoughtful postings of earlier today, but I'm swamped right now. It will probably be tomorrow night before I can answer. I'll be in touch then. Elizabeth *** Holiday discounts on Legacy 7.0, add-ons, books, and more. Visit http://tinyurl.com/65rpbt. *** Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Index Sorting
Ron, I was responding to Elizabeth, who I think missed the point of a date search, before I saw your response to Art. I appreciated your comment about using detailed search. It is a good tool. Being new to Legacy, I was not aware of it. Thanks again. Chick On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 6:32 PM, ronald ferguson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Chick, > > I will add to my response to Art, I am *not* against the option to sort by > date. In fact I do it directly, from the database using OpenOffice.org. > > I was merely observing that one can search for a date range using Detailed > Search. > > Ron Ferguson > > _ > > *New Tutorial* Publish your Web Pages - Blogs > http://www.fergys.co.uk > View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: > http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ > For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: > http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ > _ > > > > > > >> Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2008 18:13:37 -0800 >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com >> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Index Sorting >> >> Not necessarily duplicates, but comparing individuals by birth date >> rather than name will sometimes reveal the existence of an >> un-connected individual with a different name or even a name change, >> but enough other info to defintely place him in the correct family. >> >> Thanks for your Search Details tip, Ron, but it won't accomplish the >> same thing. Art and Kristen see the value of Date indexing. >> That is one of the reasons I keep FTM16 around. >> >> Chick >> >> >> On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 5:30 PM, Elizabeth Richardson >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > We certainly do research differently. Sometimes I know a date of birth >> > and >> > sometimes I don't (and sometimes the date of birth I know is incorrect), >> > so >> > I don' t think ordering the index by DOB would necessarily put people >> > together who might be duplicates. And certainly not if their surnames >> > are >> > spelled differently. >> > >> > Elizabeth >> > researching the descendants of William and Sarah (Patterson) Thompson >> > >> > - Original Message - From: "Art Seddon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> > To: >> > Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2008 4:22 PM >> > Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Index Sorting >> > >> > >> >> Ron, >> >> >> >> If you could sort by date you may find duplicates that you are unaware >> >> of. >> >> You would almost have to know who you were looking for and when they >> >> were >> >> born to find them by search. >> >> >> >> The ability to sort by date of birth is something I have long wished >> >> for, >> >> for that reason. >> >> >> >> Art Seddon >> >> >> >> Chick, >> >> >> >> I haven't a clue as to whether it is likely to be a future enhancement, >> >> but >> >> if you are looking for everybody born between two dates then you can >> >> use >> >> Search>Detailed search and enter the two dates where appropriate. You >> >> can >> >> also use wildcards in the search - see the Help Files (search for >> >> wildcard >> >> and check Detailed Search in the options) for a third condition. >> >> >> >> Hence: >> >> you would search for an individual, born after AND 2nd condition >> >> born >> >> before AND 3rd condition surname Equal To Jones (with wildcard if >> >> wanted) >> >> >> >> Ron Ferguson >> > > > Read amazing stories to your kids on Messenger. Try it Now! > > *** Holiday discounts on Legacy 7.0, add-ons, books, and more.*** > > Legacy User Group guidelines: >http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp > Archived messages: >http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ > Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp > To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp *** Holiday discounts on Legacy 7.0, add-ons, books, and more. Visit http://tinyurl.com/65rpbt. *** Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Index Sorting
Chick, you're right. I completely fail to understand why a date search (as you describe) would be useful. I happen to be currently working a Ferguson line in Richland County, Wisconsin. I suspect that most of the gazillion or so there are mine, though I believe there was one small family who isn't related. However, there is no way I'd just enter them all and sort them out later, especially not by birth date. I spent quite a bit of time last week trying to sort out two Ray Fergusons who were born on the same date a year apart. But I didn't need a date search to see the problem, and knowing the dates didn't solve my problem (they were my problem!). So, maybe you can go into a little detail. Elizabeth researching the descendants of William and Sarah (Patterson) Thompson - Original Message - From: "Chick Lewis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2008 7:20 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Index Sorting Ron, I was responding to Elizabeth, who I think missed the point of a date search, before I saw your response to Art. I appreciated your comment about using detailed search. It is a good tool. Being new to Legacy, I was not aware of it. Thanks again. Chick On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 6:32 PM, ronald ferguson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Chick, I will add to my response to Art, I am *not* against the option to sort by date. In fact I do it directly, from the database using OpenOffice.org. I was merely observing that one can search for a date range using Detailed Search. Ron Ferguson _ *New Tutorial* Publish your Web Pages - Blogs http://www.fergys.co.uk View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2008 18:13:37 -0800 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Index Sorting Not necessarily duplicates, but comparing individuals by birth date rather than name will sometimes reveal the existence of an un-connected individual with a different name or even a name change, but enough other info to defintely place him in the correct family. Thanks for your Search Details tip, Ron, but it won't accomplish the same thing. Art and Kristen see the value of Date indexing. That is one of the reasons I keep FTM16 around. Chick On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 5:30 PM, Elizabeth Richardson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > We certainly do research differently. Sometimes I know a date of birth > and > sometimes I don't (and sometimes the date of birth I know is > incorrect), > so > I don' t think ordering the index by DOB would necessarily put people > together who might be duplicates. And certainly not if their surnames > are > spelled differently. > > Elizabeth > researching the descendants of William and Sarah (Patterson) Thompson > > - Original Message - From: "Art Seddon" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2008 4:22 PM > Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Index Sorting > > >> Ron, >> >> If you could sort by date you may find duplicates that you are >> unaware >> of. >> You would almost have to know who you were looking for and when they >> were >> born to find them by search. >> >> The ability to sort by date of birth is something I have long wished >> for, >> for that reason. >> >> Art Seddon >> >> Chick, >> >> I haven't a clue as to whether it is likely to be a future >> enhancement, >> but >> if you are looking for everybody born between two dates then you can >> use >> Search>Detailed search and enter the two dates where appropriate. You >> can >> also use wildcards in the search - see the Help Files (search for >> wildcard >> and check Detailed Search in the options) for a third condition. >> >> Hence: >> you would search for an individual, born after AND 2nd condition >> born >> before AND 3rd condition surname Equal To Jones (with wildcard if >> wanted) >> >> Ron Ferguson Read amazing stories to your kids on Messenger. Try it Now! *** Holiday discounts on Legacy 7.0, add-ons, books, and more.*** Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp *** Holiday discounts on Legacy 7.0, add-ons, books, and more. Visit http://tinyurl.com/65rpbt. *** Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp *** Holiday discounts o
Re: [LegacyUG] Index Sorting
That is one feature I really do miss. I used it extensively when I used FTM. I didn't expect to find duplcates right next to each other, since year of birth might often be off, but I often found people who were the same, but had their names spelled slightly different. It sure was a helpful feature I really do miss. Anne - Original Message - From: "Art Seddon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2008 2:22 AM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Index Sorting Ron, If you could sort by date you may find duplicates that you are unaware of. You would almost have to know who you were looking for and when they were born to find them by search. The ability to sort by date of birth is something I have long wished for, for that reason. Art Seddon Chick, I haven't a clue as to whether it is likely to be a future enhancement, but if you are looking for everybody born between two dates then you can use Search>Detailed search and enter the two dates where appropriate. You can also use wildcards in the search - see the Help Files (search for wildcard and check Detailed Search in the options) for a third condition. Hence: you would search for an individual, born after AND 2nd condition born before AND 3rd condition surname Equal To Jones (with wildcard if wanted) Ron Ferguson *** Holiday discounts on Legacy 7.0, add-ons, books, and more. Visit http://tinyurl.com/65rpbt. *** Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp *** Holiday discounts on Legacy 7.0, add-ons, books, and more. Visit http://tinyurl.com/65rpbt. *** Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Index Sorting
It has always been my belief that *any* database should be both searchable *and* sortable on any field in said database... otherwise why bother to build one? --- On Wed, 12/10/08, ronald ferguson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > From: ronald ferguson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Index Sorting > To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com > Date: Wednesday, December 10, 2008, 12:03 AM > Chick, > > I haven't a clue as to whether it is likely to be a > future enhancement, but if you are looking for everybody > born between two dates then you can use Search>Detailed > search and enter the two dates where appropriate. You can > also use wildcards in the search - see the Help Files > (search for wildcard and check Detailed Search in the > options) for a third condition. > > Hence: > you would search for an individual, born after AND 2nd > condition born before AND 3rd condition surname Equal To > Jones (with wildcard if wanted) > > Ron Ferguson > > _ > > > *New Tutorial* Publish your Web Pages - Blogs > http://www.fergys.co.uk > View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: > http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ > For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: > http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ > _ > > > > > > > > > Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2008 15:28:24 -0800 > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com > > Subject: [LegacyUG] Index Sorting > > > > Because of various spellings of a surname or > variations of a given > > name there may be two individuals in the index that > are actually the > > same person. These may be difficult to find, but > sorting the index by > > date of birth rather than alphabetically will allow > easier comparison > > of names in the same time frame which will sometimes > reveal this > > duplication. This was a feature of FTM that I used > quite often, but > > appears to be missing in Legacy. Is there any way to > sort and/or > > search the index by date of birth? If not, what are > chances for a > > future enhancement? > > > .asp > > > > > > > _ > Live Search presents Big Snap II - win John Lewis vouchers > > http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/117442309/direct/01/ > > > *** Holiday discounts on Legacy 7.0, add-ons, books, and > more. Visit http://tinyurl.com/65rpbt. *** > Legacy User Group guidelines: >http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp > Archived messages: > > http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ > Online technical support: > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp > To unsubscribe: > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp *** Holiday discounts on Legacy 7.0, add-ons, books, and more. Visit http://tinyurl.com/65rpbt. *** Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Questions on Legacy
There is a tutorial in the Legacy Help file and the video "Legacy for Beginners" can always be viewed on the website at http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Videos.asp. I don't know what you mean by "final version" for the SourceWriter - you're correct in that there will always be tweaks and updates as well as new templates for this feature. New Family Search will be part of Legacy Standard and Deluxe hopefully by the time the roll-out of NFS is complete. Thanks for using Legacy. Sherry Customer Support Millennia Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com We are changing the world of genealogy! When replying to this message, please include all previous correspondence. Thanks. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dee Ziegler Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2008 7:44 PM To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [LegacyUG] Questions on Legacy Hello. I'm asking for an acquaintance -- does the "free" Legacy standard download include any beginner how-to, such as the getting started lesson that is free online? I just want to be sure I'm giving her correct information. For myself: Is the current Deluxe "SourceWriter" a final version? (I understand there will always be tweaks and improvements.) > ...when Legacy's FamilySearch functionality is ready, it will be included in the free Standard Edition. Is there a target date for this? I'm new here, and technotimid. Thanks. *** Holiday discounts on Legacy 7.0, add-ons, books, and more. Visit http://tinyurl.com/65rpbt. *** Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Index Sorting
Elizabeth: I'll give you an example from my own experience. In tracking an Acadian line back to the 1600s I have many individuals who were married 2-3 times and the spelling variations and 2nd cousin marriages are mind-boggling. Fortunately the basic records are pretty good, and there's usually at least an approximate date of birth associated with the individuals. It's very easy to enter a marriage for Andre Therrien to Marguerite Rousseau and not realize that this is a second marriage for the Andre Therrien that I had already entered as marrying Jeanne Calle 10 years earlier. Eplaining how it comes to that while even using good research practices would take a long time and go far OT, but suffice it to say that being able to sort by dob is a very handy tool under certain circumstances. Kirsten -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Elizabeth Richardson Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2008 8:37 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Index Sorting Chick, you're right. I completely fail to understand why a date search (as you describe) would be useful. I happen to be currently working a Ferguson line in Richland County, Wisconsin. I suspect that most of the gazillion or so there are mine, though I believe there was one small family who isn't related. However, there is no way I'd just enter them all and sort them out later, especially not by birth date. I spent quite a bit of time last week trying to sort out two Ray Fergusons who were born on the same date a year apart. But I didn't need a date search to see the problem, and knowing the dates didn't solve my problem (they were my problem!). So, maybe you can go into a little detail. Elizabeth researching the descendants of William and Sarah (Patterson) Thompson - Original Message - From: "Chick Lewis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2008 7:20 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Index Sorting *** Holiday discounts on Legacy 7.0, add-ons, books, and more. Visit http://tinyurl.com/65rpbt. *** Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] What I learned about renaming backups
Now I realize why Ron wondered if I had the latest version!!! 2008/12/9 JLB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > You don't have to name the backups yourself. The latest version of Legacy > does that for you. > - > JL > JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists > http://www.jgen.ws/jlog > > Roy Ferguson wrote: >> >> I thought someone might be interested in knowing how I resolved a >> maddening problem posted here on Dec 6 (10:46, "Mirrored marriages - >> spreading like a disease"). First, thanks to Paul Croteau and Ron >> Ferguson for responding with detailed, informative suggestions. >> >> In reply to Paul, yes, my backup file was also corrupt; I hadn't >> noticed until then (a more savvy user certainly would have). And it >> was the only one I had on my hard drive; a few months ago I'd cleaned >> out old backups (too much clutter!) and just kept one, updating with >> the "replace" option. That was a mistake; spoiling chances of keeping >> a clean copy at hand. Fortunately, my houscleaning hadn't yet got to >> portable storage, but I'd been thinking about it. From now on I'll >> rename every backup with a visible date tag and just let them all pile >> up. In answer to Ron, no I wasn't using the latest version but am now; >> and I've saved your tips for any emergency >> . >> >> >> >> *** Holiday discounts on Legacy 7.0, add-ons, books, and more. Visit >> http://tinyurl.com/65rpbt. *** >> Legacy User Group guidelines: >> http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp >> Archived messages: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ >> Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp >> To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp >> >> >> >> >> > > > > > *** Holiday discounts on Legacy 7.0, add-ons, books, and more. Visit > http://tinyurl.com/65rpbt. *** > Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp > Archived messages: > http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ > Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp > To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp > > > > *** Holiday discounts on Legacy 7.0, add-ons, books, and more. Visit http://tinyurl.com/65rpbt. *** Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] Uninstall the old Legacy?
I don't recall being asked to UNinstall Legacy 6 when I upgraded, so it seems to be still around. In the main Legacy 7 folder, which otherwise is up-do-date. I see 2 files thee named "Uninstall Legacy 6." and "Legacy 6 Setup". Common sense tell me to delete them, since Legacy 7 is working just fine, but I'd feel better if someone would first confirm that I should. I worry there may be a reason for them being there. *** Holiday discounts on Legacy 7.0, add-ons, books, and more. Visit http://tinyurl.com/65rpbt. *** Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
