RE: [LegacyUG] Questions about reports
The Preview looks badly wrong, although I would prefer to see a measure so that I can see what the margin/indents actually are. Whilst I agree that it should be the same as the output, I prefer to check in the WP - when I create reports I always put them through OOo anyway. I would also check direct printing, but I ran out of ink yesterday! Will have a look at the rtf now. Ron Ferguson _ *New Tutorial* Create Standards Compliant CSS Pedigree web pages http://www.fergys.co.uk/ View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ From: kowal...@iglou.com To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Questions about reports Date: Sun, 3 May 2009 20:11:12 -0400 On Mon, 4 May 2009 00:51:49 +0100, ronald ferguson wrote: I have been having a look at the rtf file and on the face of it things do look a little funny, but I am uncertain and need to look at it more closely. At the moment what I see in the rtf file doesn't quite agree with what I am seeing on OOo. Since this cannot be true I wna t look with fresh eyes and it is very late here, so will look in the morning. Meanwhile if you look at http://www.fergys.co.uk/rtf_Check/ScreenShot.png I have put on the OOo output - with the scale in inches. The Legacy settings were margin 0.75 ins, indent 0.30 ins. This seems to be what I am getting with OOo. But what does Print Preview show? -- Dennis Kowallek (LTools) http://zippersoftware.com/ltools http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ltools _ Share your photos with Windows Live Photos – Free. http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/134665338/direct/01/ Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Warning that genders wrong in marriages
Bill, Please contact me through Genes and I will take a look for you. Please give me access to your tree and a couple of typical examples of individuals which are giving you problems. You should be able to find me by looking for a Jane Craison born 1766. (She may not be on the search list at present as I have only just added her). If you have a problem please contact me off list. Ron Ferguson _ *New Tutorial* Create Standards Compliant CSS Pedigree web pages http://www.fergys.co.uk/ View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ From: tas...@bigpond.com To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Warning that genders wrong in marriages Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 16:27:21 +1000 Just downloaded the free version to get a feel for Legacy, as I want to select an app to stand alone on my computer to allow reports etc and not rely entirely on a web site. Have my tree on the GenesReunited web site in England. Started by importing the gedcom file into Legacy and got an immediate page of warnings about wrong genders in marriages (husbands recorded as female, wives as male). There are about 1700 individuals on my tree so at a guess there are several hundred marriages. There were about a dozen warnings of wrong gender. I've checked the tree on GR, and no such errors. I've been through the Word file that is the gedcom, and can't find any errors in the allocation of M or F. I've wondered whether it's related to re-marriages, where a person has two or more partners shown, and those partners are of course the same sex as each other. Maybe Legacy thinks that each is the other's partner instead of both being partners of somebody else? Can anybody advise what is wrong, please? Or is nothing wrong, and I should just ignore the warnings? At this stage I haven't gone any further - don't like the try it and see if it seems to work approach. Bill Reynolds Australia [http://gfx1.hotmail.com/mail/w3/ltr/i_safe.gif] _ Share your photos with Windows Live Photos – Free. http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/134665338/direct/01/ Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Questions about reports
Dennis,
The figures corresponding to the screnshot I uploaded are:
\margl1080\margr1440\margt1080\margb1440
The first entry:
\par \pard\fi0\li1056\plain\f3\fs20 \b Mr William Arthur
The line before the second entry: \par \pard \li1056 \'95 She had a residence
in 1917
and the second entry
\par \pard\fi0\li1488\plain\f3\fs20 \b Miss Ivy Ferguson
What I find puzzling is that the indent/margin for the first entry is very
slightly less than the set margin. Otherwise these figures seem to be what I
would expect.
Ron Ferguson
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From: kowal...@iglou.com
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Questions about reports
Date: Sun, 3 May 2009 18:55:31 -0400
On Sun, 3 May 2009 22:48:58 +0100, ronald ferguson
wrote:
I don't know how you measured the margins in OO Writer, but I displayed the
non-printing charcters, which defines the left start - I also measured in
millimeters as this is easier to read accurately than inches.
Left margin set to 0.5inch margin abt 1.3 mm
Indent set to 0.3inch total margin+indent abt 2.0mm
Left margin set to 0.0 inch margin abt 0.0mm
Indent set to 0.3inch total margin+indent abt 0.8mm
To me, these seem to be correct. If Word is not showing the same then perhaps
it has something to do with the Word set up - but I do not know the product
to be able to comment.
Ron:
Here is a Print Preview from Word ...
http://kowallekfamily.com/temp/20090503182521.jpg
... and here is the same file from OO Writer ...
http://kowallekfamily.com/temp/20090503182849.jpg
They look about the same to me.
I looked at the .rtf in a text editor and the following line sets the
left margin ...
\margl1800\margr1800\margt1080\margb2880
\margl1800 is the token of interest.
The following line sets the left indent (from the margin) for the first
generation ...
\par \pard\fi0\li1584\plain\f3\fs20 \b 1-John Bales\b0 {\pard\plain \v
{\xe BALES\:John}}\up5\super 1, 2, 3\up0\nosupersub was born about 1772
in North Carolina\up5\super 2, 3, 4\up0\nosupersub and died on 11 Dec
1857\up5\super 1\up0\nosupersub about age 85.
\li1584 is the token of interest.
Measurement is in twips. 1440 twips = 1 inch. So 1584 twips = 1.1
inches.
I had left margin in Legacy set to 1.25 inches (1800 twips). So Legacy
is telling Word and OO Writer to indent 1.25 + 1.1 = 2.35 inches. This
looks like what I am seeing.
Definitely a Legacy bug IMO. The OP should write it up and submit a bug
report.
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Re: [LegacyUG] Warning that genders wrong in marriages
Hi Ron, Message sent via GR. Also see attached file of Legacy warnings. Cheers, Bill - Original Message - From: ronald ferguson To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Monday, May 04, 2009 6:42 PM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Warning that genders wrong in marriages Bill, Please contact me through Genes and I will take a look for you. Please give me access to your tree and a couple of typical examples of individuals which are giving you problems. You should be able to find me by looking for a Jane Craison born 1766. (She may not be on the search list at present as I have only just added her). If you have a problem please contact me off list. Ron Ferguson _ *New Tutorial* Create Standards Compliant CSS Pedigree web pages http://www.fergys.co.uk/ View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ From: tas...@bigpond.com To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Warning that genders wrong in marriages Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 16:27:21 +1000 Just downloaded the free version to get a feel for Legacy, as I want to select an app to stand alone on my computer to allow reports etc and not rely entirely on a web site. Have my tree on the GenesReunited web site in England. Started by importing the gedcom file into Legacy and got an immediate page of warnings about wrong genders in marriages (husbands recorded as female, wives as male). There are about 1700 individuals on my tree so at a guess there are several hundred marriages. There were about a dozen warnings of wrong gender. I've checked the tree on GR, and no such errors. I've been through the Word file that is the gedcom, and can't find any errors in the allocation of M or F. I've wondered whether it's related to re-marriages, where a person has two or more partners shown, and those partners are of course the same sex as each other. Maybe Legacy thinks that each is the other's partner instead of both being partners of somebody else? Can anybody advise what is wrong, please? Or is nothing wrong, and I should just ignore the warnings? At this stage I haven't gone any further - don't like the try it and see if it seems to work approach. Bill Reynolds Australia [http://gfx1.hotmail.com/mail/w3/ltr/i_safe.gif] _ Share your photos with Windows Live Photos – Free. http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/134665338/direct/01/ Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy error report for GR gedcom.doc Description: MS-Word document
RE: [LegacyUG] Warning that genders wrong in marriages
Bill, Sorry, but attachments are not allowed on this list, apart from which I block them on mailing lists. Please send to ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk Many thanks. Ron Ferguson _ *New Tutorial* Create Standards Compliant CSS Pedigree web pages http://www.fergys.co.uk/ View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ From: tas...@bigpond.com To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Warning that genders wrong in marriages Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 19:07:44 +1000 Hi Ron, Message sent via GR. Also see attached file of Legacy warnings. Cheers, Bill - Original Message - From: ronald ferguson To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Monday, May 04, 2009 6:42 PM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Warning that genders wrong in marriages Bill, Please contact me through Genes and I will take a look for you. Please give me access to your tree and a couple of typical examples of individuals which are giving you problems. You should be able to find me by looking for a Jane Craison born 1766. (She may not be on the search list at present as I have only just added her). If you have a problem please contact me off list. Ron Ferguson _ *New Tutorial* Create Standards Compliant CSS Pedigree web pages http://www.fergys.co.uk/ View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ From: tas...@bigpond.com To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Warning that genders wrong in marriages Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 16:27:21 +1000 Just downloaded the free version to get a feel for Legacy, as I want to select an app to stand alone on my computer to allow reports etc and not rely entirely on a web site. Have my tree on the GenesReunited web site in England. Started by importing the gedcom file into Legacy and got an immediate page of warnings about wrong genders in marriages (husbands recorded as female, wives as male). There are about 1700 individuals on my tree so at a guess there are several hundred marriages. There were about a dozen warnings of wrong gender. I've checked the tree on GR, and no such errors. I've been through the Word file that is the gedcom, and can't find any errors in the allocation of M or F. I've wondered whether it's related to re-marriages, where a person has two or more partners shown, and those partners are of course the same sex as each other. Maybe Legacy thinks that each is the other's partner instead of both being partners of somebody else? Can anybody advise what is wrong, please? Or is nothing wrong, and I should just ignore the warnings? At this stage I haven't gone any further - don't like the try it and see if it seems to work approach. Bill Reynolds Australia _ View your Twitter and Flickr updates from one place – Learn more! http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/137984870/direct/01/ Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Questions about reports
On Mon, 4 May 2009 00:51:49 +0100, ronald ferguson ronfe...@msn.com wrote: Meanwhile if you look at http://www.fergys.co.uk/rtf_Check/ScreenShot.png I have put on the OOo output - with the scale in inches. The Legacy settings were margin 0.75 ins, indent 0.30 ins. This seems to be what I am getting with OOo. The screenshot you posted is hard to decipher because it does not appear to start at the top of a page. Is this the 1st generation in the report? It appears to start with a couple of events and then starts another generation? But, not being an expert on OO Writer, isn't the solid vertical line on the left your page margin? So the actual left side of the physical page would be .75 inches to the left of the solid vertical line? -- Dennis Kowallek (LTools) http://zippersoftware.com/ltools http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ltools Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] RINs showing up incorrectly in INDEX and SEARCH for 3 women's married names
On Sun, 03 May 2009 17:37:02 -0700, Cathy Vallevieni cathyv...@cox.net wrote: Ron: Thanks for trying to help. At least it isn't really affecting anything as long as I remember it when I do searches or look at the Index. I think I'll leave it alone for now. Maybe it will go away on it's own! (I don't expect that but we can always hope.) Cathy: Send me a snapshot of the index screen with the bad entry along with a copy of your .fdb off-list and I will look at it. I don't have 7.0 deluxe so I can't duplicate the conditions you are describing. -- Dennis Kowallek (LTools) http://zippersoftware.com/ltools http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ltools Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Questions about reports
On Mon, 4 May 2009 10:55:29 +0100, ronald ferguson ronfe...@msn.com wrote: The figures corresponding to the screnshot I uploaded are: \margl1080\margr1440\margt1080\margb1440 The first entry: \par \pard\fi0\li1056\plain\f3\fs20 \b Mr William Arthur The line before the second entry: \par \pard \li1056 \'95 She had a residence in 1917 and the second entry \par \pard\fi0\li1488\plain\f3\fs20 \b Miss Ivy Ferguson What I find puzzling is that the indent/margin for the first entry is very slightly less than the set margin. Otherwise these figures seem to be what I would expect. The \li1056 is the left indent relative to the left margin of \margl1080. So it is saying indent 1080 + 1056 twips, or about 1.5 inches. -- Dennis Kowallek (LTools) http://zippersoftware.com/ltools http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ltools Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Questions about reports
That I understood, but from where did the 1056 come? 0.73 inch is not the margin (0.75inch), nor the indent (0.3inch). Having also looked again at different margins from 0 to .75inch the added indent for the first entry seems to vary wrt the set margin. Incidentally this also answers your point about my screenshot. If this is what you meant by a bug then I can see what you mean, but there does seem to be some sort of logic to it even though I cannot see the whys and wherefores at the moment. Ron Ferguson _ *New Tutorial* Create Standards Compliant CSS Pedigree web pages http://www.fergys.co.uk/ View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ From: kowal...@iglou.com To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Questions about reports Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 08:12:22 -0400 On Mon, 4 May 2009 10:55:29 +0100, ronald ferguson wrote: The figures corresponding to the screnshot I uploaded are: \margl1080\margr1440\margt1080\margb1440 The first entry: \par \pard\fi0\li1056\plain\f3\fs20 \b Mr William Arthur The line before the second entry: \par \pard \li1056 \'95 She had a residence in 1917 and the second entry \par \pard\fi0\li1488\plain\f3\fs20 \b Miss Ivy Ferguson What I find puzzling is that the indent/margin for the first entry is very slightly less than the set margin. Otherwise these figures seem to be what I would expect. The \li1056 is the left indent relative to the left margin of \margl1080. So it is saying indent 1080 + 1056 twips, or about 1.5 inches. -- Dennis Kowallek (LTools) http://zippersoftware.com/ltools http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ltools _ View your Twitter and Flickr updates from one place – Learn more! http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/137984870/direct/01/ Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Questions about reports
On Mon, 4 May 2009 14:09:25 +0100, ronald ferguson ronfe...@msn.com wrote: That I understood, but from where did the 1056 come? That is the $64,000 question. This value for the 1st generation should be either right up against the margin (\li0) or fairly close (if the programmer wants to add a little padding from the margin). But I wouldn't think this value would vary with your margin selection! Maybe Dave or whomever is the RTF Report guru will jump in and put an end to the speculation. I assume the OP has reported this as a bug by now. -- Dennis Kowallek (LTools) http://zippersoftware.com/ltools http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ltools Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Backing Up To MSN SkyDrive
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Re: [LegacyUG] Questions about reports
I am the OP but have not reported it as a bug because until recently no one else seemed to be able to even see that there was a problem at all. I am still not sure I can explain clearly what the problem is in a bug report without the programmers also ignoring it because (as was the case only a few days ago in this newsgroup) they do not see the problem and assume I have just not set the margins or the indents correctly. Perhaps one you Legacy gurus who actually figured out the problem could report it better than I could. Jeff Dennis M. Kowallek wrote: On Mon, 4 May 2009 14:09:25 +0100, ronald ferguson ronfe...@msn.com wrote: That I understood, but from where did the 1056 come? That is the $64,000 question. This value for the 1st generation should be either right up against the margin (\li0) or fairly close (if the programmer wants to add a little padding from the margin). But I wouldn't think this value would vary with your margin selection! Maybe Dave or whomever is the RTF Report guru will jump in and put an end to the speculation. I assume the OP has reported this as a bug by now. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] How to scan and copy a text record int Legacy Events
I have some copies of Revolutionary War military records, typewritten from the original, which I have been trying to scan to a file, then copy paste into Legacy Events. I am trying to avoid time consuming re-typing. Even though I change the image from jpg to text or PDF I cannot copy them - I am unable to highlight the text and do a control c. I've tried every trick I know but no luck. What am I doing wrong and what is the correct way? Bill Rhodes
RE: [LegacyUG] How to scan and copy a text record int Legacy Events
Bill, To do what you require you need an optical text reader to convert the image to text. These are often supplied with the scanner software so I would first check that you haven't got one. Failing that Google will find some (including free downloads) Ron Ferguson _ *New Tutorial* Create Standards Compliant CSS Pedigree web pages http://www.fergys.co.uk/ View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 15:07:27 -0400 Subject: [LegacyUG] How to scan and copy a text record int Legacy Events From: wlrho...@gmail.com To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com I have some copies of Revolutionary War military records, typewritten from the original, which I have been trying to scan to a file, then copy paste into Legacy Events. I am trying to avoid time consuming re-typing. Even though I change the image from jpg to text or PDF I cannot copy them - I am unable to highlight the text and do a control c. I've tried every trick I know but no luck. What am I doing wrong and what is the correct way? Bill Rhodes _ View your Twitter and Flickr updates from one place – Learn more! http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/137984870/direct/01/ Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] How to scan and copy a text record int Legacy Events
You have two options: 1. Attach the PDF or jpg or text doc to the event (or to the Source or Source Detail) 2. If your scan software has the option of OCR, you can convert the scan to text, then paste it into the event (or Source or Source Detail). [My impression from what you said is that you simply changed the filename extension to .txt but didn't actually convert it.] Mike Michael J Method family research of: Method, Feehily, Fredrick, Herzog, tenEyck, Belsley In a message dated 5/4/2009 3:08:42 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, wlrho...@gmail.com writes: I have some copies of Revolutionary War military records, typewritten from the original, which I have been trying to scan to a file, then copy paste into Legacy Events. I am trying to avoid time consuming re-typing. Even though I change the image from jpg to text or PDF I cannot copy them - I am unable to highlight the text and do a control c. I've tried every trick I know but no luck. What am I doing wrong and what is the correct way? Bill Rhodes **2009 3 Free CREDIT SCORES: See Your 3 Credit Scores from All 3 Bureaus FREE! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1221797372x1201397989/aol?redir=https:%2F%2Fwww.freescore.com%2FOffers%2FStart%2FFreeCreditRepor tAndScore.aspx%3FID%3D91831F371F138345B53A153F49D4D872%26siteid%3De927580bf7 ) Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] How to scan and copy a text record int Legacy Events
Bill Rhodes wrote: I have some copies of Revolutionary War military records, typewritten from the original, which I have been trying to scan to a file, then copy paste into Legacy Events. I am trying to avoid time consuming re-typing. Even though I change the image from jpg to text or PDF I cannot copy them - I am unable to highlight the text and do a control c. I've tried every trick I know but no luck. What am I doing wrong and what is the correct way? That won't work. Scanning produces an image. To cut and paste text you need to be able to convert your image into a document. To do that, you need an extra piece of software that performs OCR (Optical Character Recognition). The basic idea is that the software can, given some basic details about the image, translate individual patterns of pixels into an ASCII character. Be aware, most OCR software is not very good at this because of the poor images they have to work from, and you'll spend a lot of time correcting what the OCR software thinks it has read. -- Regards, Mike Fry Johannesburg. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] How to scan and copy a text record int Legacy Events
After you scan your image you can link it into Events Pictures, the same as you would link any other image. You can't copy them into Notes or anything like that. If you want to turn your image into text, that requires OCR software, which either comes with your scanner, or you can buy or possibly find for free. You cannot scan an image and then highlight the text, per se. It takes special software to turn image text into text-text. - JL JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists http://www.jgen.ws/jlog Bill Rhodes wrote: I have some copies of Revolutionary War military records, typewritten from the original, which I have been trying to scan to a file, then copy paste into Legacy Events. I am trying to avoid time consuming re-typing. Even though I change the image from jpg to text or PDF I cannot copy them - I am unable to highlight the text and do a control c. I've tried every trick I know but no luck. What am I doing wrong and what is the correct way? Bill Rhodes Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] How to scan and copy a text record int Legacy Events
Bill, You could check your printer information and see if an OCR file is included. If so, just install it and when you scan the item it will give you the option to save as text. Mine works great. Pam Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 21:34:38 +0200 From: mike...@iafrica.com To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] How to scan and copy a text record int Legacy Events Bill Rhodes wrote: I have some copies of Revolutionary War military records, typewritten from the original, which I have been trying to scan to a file, then copy paste into Legacy Events. I am trying to avoid time consuming re-typing. Even though I change the image from jpg to text or PDF I cannot copy them - I am unable to highlight the text and do a control c. I've tried every trick I know but no luck. What am I doing wrong and what is the correct way? That won't work. Scanning produces an image. To cut and paste text you need to be able to convert your image into a document. To do that, you need an extra piece of software that performs OCR (Optical Character Recognition). The basic idea is that the software can, given some basic details about the image, translate individual patterns of pixels into an ASCII character. Be aware, most OCR software is not very good at this because of the poor images they have to work from, and you'll spend a lot of time correcting what the OCR software thinks it has read. -- Regards, Mike Fry Johannesburg. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp _ Windows Live™: Keep your life in sync. http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_BR_life_in_synch_052009 Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] How to scan and copy a text record int Legacy Events
I would suggest copying them as images (jpg) and save them as pictures. Works for me! Keith On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 3:07 PM, Bill Rhodes wlrho...@gmail.com wrote: I have some copies of Revolutionary War military records, typewritten from the original, which I have been trying to scan to a file, then copy paste into Legacy Events. I am trying to avoid time consuming re-typing. Even though I change the image from jpg to text or PDF I cannot copy them - I am unable to highlight the text and do a control c. I've tried every trick I know but no luck. What am I doing wrong and what is the correct way? Bill Rhodes -- Surnames: McKain, Horn, Riale, Ulrich, Erisman, Leiphart, Reed and Henry Website: http://home.comcast.net/~geosci64 EMail: geosc...@gmail.com McCain-McKane-O'Kane DNA Group 1 Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] How to scan and copy a text record int Legacy Events
The magic phrase here is OCR - optical character recognition. Some scanner software includes entry level OCR software. If the original is good quality (letters evenly dark, etc) then the supplied OCR software may be adequate. My experiences with the OCR software that comes with scanners indicate that these programs work for at most 85% of the text on a page unless the original is very good quality and the font is one that the OCR software is optimzed for. Really good OCR software is typically in the $400 and up (and up and up)range. Try what you have; adjust the scanner resolution as the OCR software directs; play with the scanner brightness, contrast, and gamma controls to get the best scan. Of course, this could take more time than retyping the originals - there is (as yet) no device that translates ink or pencil on paper better than the human eye and brain. John I have some copies of Revolutionary War military records, typewritten from the original, which I have been trying to scan to a file, then copy paste into Legacy Events. I am trying to avoid time consuming re-typing. Even though I change the image from jpg to text or PDF I cannot copy them - I am unable to highlight the text and do a control c. I've tried every trick I know but no luck. What am I doing wrong and what is the correct way? Bill Rhodes Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] Bulk sourcing
Newbie working with Free Legacy7 here: I just began a new Family File with about a dozen people. I'd like to put a single master source on each bit of information (name, dob, dod, etc) that is identical. For example: the Master Source name would be Recollections of John Doe and it's from an email from John Doe to me. I tried tagging all the individuals in the Family File, but now I don't know how to proceed to bulk-add the identical Master Source to each person and his various fields. Any suggestions? Marilyn Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] How to scan and copy a text record int Legacy Events
Bill, It sounds like you only have an image. Your scanner should come with an OCR option, which performs character recognition during or after the scan. If not, look for a third party OCR program. Ward - Original Message - From: Bill Rhodes To: Legacy Users Group Sent: Monday, May 04, 2009 3:07 PM Subject: [LegacyUG] How to scan and copy a text record int Legacy Events I have some copies of Revolutionary War military records, typewritten from the original, which I have been trying to scan to a file, then copy paste into Legacy Events. I am trying to avoid time consuming re-typing. Even though I change the image from jpg to text or PDF I cannot copy them - I am unable to highlight the text and do a control c. I've tried every trick I know but no luck. What am I doing wrong and what is the correct way? Bill Rhodes Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] How to scan and copy a text record int Legacy Events
You can try the OCR - but my experience is not good. I have MANY documents saved as jpg and (if you leave them big enough) - you can easily zoom to see the detail with no problems. I still think that is the best solution. Keith On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 3:54 PM, Pam O'Dell pamodel...@hotmail.com wrote: Bill, You could check your printer information and see if an OCR file is included. If so, just install it and when you scan the item it will give you the option to save as text. Mine works great. Pam Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 21:34:38 +0200 From: mike...@iafrica.com To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] How to scan and copy a text record int Legacy Events Bill Rhodes wrote: I have some copies of Revolutionary War military records, typewritten from the original, which I have been trying to scan to a file, then copy paste into Legacy Events. I am trying to avoid time consuming re-typing. Even though I change the image from jpg to text or PDF I cannot copy them - I am unable to highlight the text and do a control c. I've tried every trick I know but no luck. What am I doing wrong and what is the correct way? That won't work. Scanning produces an image. To cut and paste text you need to be able to convert your image into a document. To do that, you need an extra piece of software that performs OCR (Optical Character Recognition). The basic idea is that the software can, given some basic details about the image, translate individual patterns of pixels into an ASCII character. Be aware, most OCR software is not very good at this because of the poor images they have to work from, and you'll spend a lot of time correcting what the OCR software thinks it has read. -- Regards, Mike Fry Johannesburg. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Windows Live™: Keep your life in sync. Check it out. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp -- Surnames: McKain, Horn, Riale, Ulrich, Erisman, Leiphart, Reed and Henry Website: http://home.comcast.net/~geosci64 EMail: geosc...@gmail.com McCain-McKane-O'Kane DNA Group 1 Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Bulk sourcing
Marilyn, Advanced Sourcing is only available in the Delux Version, so I'm afraid that you will have to use the Source Clipboard for each individual entry. Ron Ferguson _ *New Tutorial* Create Standards Compliant CSS Pedigree web pages http://www.fergys.co.uk/ View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 13:11:09 -0700 From: paddypeppe...@yahoo.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Bulk sourcing To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Newbie working with Free Legacy7 here: I just began a new Family File with about a dozen people. I'd like to put a single master source on each bit of information (name, dob, dod, etc) that is identical. For example: the Master Source name would be Recollections of John Doe and it's from an email from John Doe to me. I tried tagging all the individuals in the Family File, but now I don't know how to proceed to bulk-add the identical Master Source to each person and his various fields. Any suggestions? Marilyn _ Beyond Hotmail — see what else you can do with Windows Live. http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/134665375/direct/01/ Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] How to scan and copy a text record int Legacy Events
As has been said, attaching the image is quick, easy and 100% accurate. Even from a clear image of good typescript, OCR results are rarely 100%. Bottom line: OCR takes time, will introduce errors and lose formatting. I can see one only advantage - the resulting text will be searchable in Legacy. -- Mary Young
RE: [LegacyUG] Bulk sourcing
Thanks, Ron. Will do. Marilyn --- On Mon, 5/4/09, ronald ferguson ronfe...@msn.com wrote: From: ronald ferguson ronfe...@msn.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Bulk sourcing To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com Date: Monday, May 4, 2009, 3:10 PM Marilyn, Advanced Sourcing is only available in the Delux Version, so I'm afraid that you will have to use the Source Clipboard for each individual entry. Ron Ferguson _ *New Tutorial* Create Standards Compliant CSS Pedigree web pages http://www.fergys.co.uk/ View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 13:11:09 -0700 From: paddypeppe...@yahoo.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Bulk sourcing To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Newbie working with Free Legacy7 here: I just began a new Family File with about a dozen people. I'd like to put a single master source on each bit of information (name, dob, dod, etc) that is identical. For example: the Master Source name would be Recollections of John Doe and it's from an email from John Doe to me. I tried tagging all the individuals in the Family File, but now I don't know how to proceed to bulk-add the identical Master Source to each person and his various fields. Any suggestions? Marilyn _ Beyond Hotmail — see what else you can do with Windows Live. http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/134665375/direct/01/ Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] Time warp for LUG e-mails
Am I the only one receiving LUG e-mails badly out of order, sometimes several hours late, and occasionally not at all? I replied to the thread 'How to scan and copy a text record int Legacy Events' about 2 hours after the OP, thinking nobody else had responded yet. Now I see from the archive that several people had responded before me. I see 10 replies in the archive at the moment, and I have only received about 5 in my inbox, in random order and not including my own. The pattern is not correlated with geographical location. I have corresponded with Legacy Support about this, previously. They do not think the cause is at their end. I guess I'll have to visit the archive before firing off replies to future threads. Ward Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Time warp for LUG e-mails
Ward Walker wrote: Am I the only one receiving LUG e-mails badly out of order, sometimes several hours late, and occasionally not at all? I replied to the thread 'How to scan and copy a text record int Legacy Events' about 2 hours after the OP, thinking nobody else had responded yet. Now I see from the archive that several people had responded before me. I see 10 replies in the archive at the moment, and I have only received about 5 in my inbox, in random order and not including my own. The pattern is not correlated with geographical location. I have corresponded with Legacy Support about this, previously. They do not think the cause is at their end. I guess I'll have to visit the archive before firing off replies to future threads. This sort of problem is not usually the fault of the originator of the messages i.e. the mailing list, but can be attributed to problems that exist somewhere between the list server and you. Depending on the route selected to transfer a particular message, transmission problems somewhere along the route can cause some messages to be delayed whilst other, later messages travel on a different route and arrive earlier. If you want to gain some idea of where the hold-ups are occurring, look at a full set of message headers and you'll see which servers your messages are passing through. Timestamps will give you some idea of where the delay occurred. -- Regards, Mike Fry Johannesburg. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Bulk sourcing
How is it done in Deluxe please? Dave ronald ferguson wrote: Marilyn, Advanced Sourcing is only available in the Delux Version, so I'm afraid that you will have to use the Source Clipboard for each individual entry. Ron Ferguson _ *New Tutorial* Create Standards Compliant CSS Pedigree web pages http://www.fergys.co.uk/ View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 13:11:09 -0700 From: paddypeppe...@yahoo.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Bulk sourcing To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Newbie working with Free Legacy7 here: I just began a new Family File with about a dozen people. I'd like to put a single master source on each bit of information (name, dob, dod, etc) that is identical. For example: the Master Source name would be Recollections of John Doe and it's from an email from John Doe to me. I tried tagging all the individuals in the Family File, but now I don't know how to proceed to bulk-add the identical Master Source to each person and his various fields. Any suggestions? Marilyn _ Beyond Hotmail — see what else you can do with Windows Live. http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/134665375/direct/01/ Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Time warp for LUG e-mails
Hi ward, Time warps are usually your mail host problem. I've had various times when they would deliver multiple copies etc. NevP 2009/5/5 Ward Walker wnkwal...@rogers.com Am I the only one receiving LUG e-mails badly out of order, sometimes several hours late, and occasionally not at all? I replied to the thread 'How to scan and copy a text record int Legacy Events' about 2 hours after the OP, thinking nobody else had responded yet. Now I see from the archive that several people had responded before me. I see 10 replies in the archive at the moment, and I have only received about 5 in my inbox, in random order and not including my own. The pattern is not correlated with geographical location. I have corresponded with Legacy Support about this, previously. They do not think the cause is at their end. I guess I'll have to visit the archive before firing off replies to future threads. Ward Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Time warp for LUG e-mails
I have also had this happen to me. Part of it has to do with our/your browser, and other issues out of our immediate control, so I try to not worry about it. If under a dozen answers come in, I will respond if I have additional info, but if less come in, will do it if I know the solution. Keeping file size minimal, for our dial up friends. --- On Mon, 5/4/09, Ward Walker wnkwal...@rogers.com wrote: From: Ward Walker wnkwal...@rogers.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Time warp for LUG e-mails To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Date: Monday, May 4, 2009, 3:44 PM Am I the only one receiving LUG e-mails badly out of order, sometimes several hours late, and occasionally not at all? I replied to the thread 'How to scan and copy a text record int Legacy Events' about 2 hours after the OP, thinking nobody else had responded yet. Now I see from the archive that several people had responded before me. I see 10 replies in the archive at the moment, and I have only received about 5 in my inbox, in random order and not including my own. The pattern is not correlated with geographical location. I have corresponded with Legacy Support about this, previously. They do not think the cause is at their end. I guess I'll have to visit the archive before firing off replies to future threads. Ward Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
