Re: [LegacyUG] "Of" a location

[RICHARD SCHULTHIES]

What I do to avoid the confusion, is, when the location needs an explanation, 
I  quote the verbiage in the Source details,  and then use the location without 
any modifiers in the Location list. Example: a relative was shot in front of 
423 25th Street, Chicago (which was near to his apartment 427).  I include the 
whole news article (photocopy) in the photos.  So anyone who receives the whole 
package can decide to edit it to taste.
Rich in LA CA




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Sent: Sat, October 31, 2009 2:26:29 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] "Of" a location

I have recently changed most of my "of" locations by creating an event called 
"residence" in the Events/Facts section.  For example, for a marriage where 
someone is listed as Of a location:  the marriage entry will give the location 
where the marriage took place, while the Residence event/fact states where the 
bride or groom was "of".

This is especially helpful in recording German records which nearly always give 
the community where the parents of the bride and groom reside which may not 
necessarily be the one where they were born/baptized. 

Jennifer
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Re: [LegacyUG] "Of" a location

[Jenny M Benson]

Dale E. Rich wrote
How should I record the location of an event, such as a birth, when all 
I have is that they are "Of" that location?  It seems that leaving the 
location out entirely is doing a disservice to those who come behind me 
looking for information, but neither does it seem right for the 
location to be "of city, county, state".  Which also messes up my 
master locations list.


Just describing someone as "Of Anytown" is far too vague to be used as 
the location of any particular event.  You don't know whether it means 
the person was born there or just lived there for a long time or maybe 
even only for a short time.


I would definitely not add that place as a location for any event but as 
a reminder to myself I would mention the "of Anytown" reference in 
Research Notes as it would give me a suggestion of where to start 
looking.  And/or for the benefit of those coming after you, record it in 
General Notes or in the Source Comments.

--
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RE: [LegacyUG] Tidying Up Addresses

[Bill Anderson]

Or Scotland, Wales or Northern Ireland :-)

Bill

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Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Tidying Up Addresses


Hello Ron - everything is fine thanks, Bruce and Jenny both gave me ways to
solve my problem. My comment was based on a comment that I may have 'set you off
again'' which initially left me wondering what I had done.

All is well and sorted out though, I realise that I need to be putting England
and not UK or United Kingdom.

Thank you for your kind offer of help.

Regards - June



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Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Tidying Up Addresses

Sorry, June, but you have now lost me - not too difficult btw.

I thought that you did not know which way to go, rather than having specific

problems, both Bruce and Jenny have given different ways, which I though would
have answered your question.

If you are having a specific problem for which either of these ways do not work
then please give a detailed example of the Location and how you are trying to
change it, what the outcome you require is and what you are getting. We may then
be able to help.


Ron Ferguson
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RE: [LegacyUG] Tidying Up Addresses

[June Chan]

Most definitely :-)

June

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Or Scotland, Wales or Northern Ireland :-)

Bill





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RE: [LegacyUG] Tidying Up Addresses

[June Chan]

Hello Ron - everything is fine thanks, Bruce and Jenny both gave me ways to
solve my problem. My comment was based on a comment that I may have 'set you
off again'' which initially left me wondering what I had done.

All is well and sorted out though, I realise that I need to be putting
England and not UK or United Kingdom.

Thank you for your kind offer of help.

Regards - June



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Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Tidying Up Addresses

Sorry, June, but you have now lost me - not too difficult btw.

I thought that you did not know which way to go, rather than having specific

problems, both Bruce and Jenny have given different ways, which I though 
would have answered your question.

If you are having a specific problem for which either of these ways do not 
work then please give a detailed example of the Location and how you are 
trying to change it, what the outcome you require is and what you are 
getting. We may then be able to help.

Ron Ferguson
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Re: [LegacyUG] "Of" a location

[CLARK1528]

I have recently changed most of my "of" locations by creating an event  
called "residence" in the Events/Facts section.  For example, for a  marriage 
where someone is listed as Of a location:  the marriage entry will  give the 
location where the marriage took place, while the Residence event/fact  
states where the bride or groom was "of".
 
This is especially helpful in recording German records which nearly always  
give the community where the parents of the bride and groom reside which 
may not  necessarily be the one where they were born/baptized. 
 
Jennifer
 
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Re: [LegacyUG] "Of" a location

[Ron Ferguson]

Yet another example of dogmatically using the four field convention Dale :-).

To answer your question, I would never use the word "of" in the Location field, 
but  there are various ways of dealing with the problem and none is perfect. 
For me, it depends on the context in which the location is found, and in 
general, in the England, it is for one of the spouses in a marriage, in which 
case I would give this as the residence of that person at the time of marriage.

I do recognise that it could also relate to another time so I make a note, if 
the official document doesn't make it clear.

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  I need some advice.

  How should I record the location of an event, such as a birth, when all I 
have is that they are "Of" that location?  It seems that leaving the location 
out entirely is doing a disservice to those who come behind me looking for 
information, but neither does it seem right for the location to be "of city, 
county, state".  Which also messes up my master locations list.

  What should I do?

  DR
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[LegacyUG] "Of" a location

[Dale E. Rich]

I need some advice.

How should I record the location of an event, such as a birth, when all I have 
is that they are "Of" that location?  It seems that leaving the location out 
entirely is doing a disservice to those who come behind me looking for 
information, but neither does it seem right for the location to be "of city, 
county, state".  Which also messes up my master locations list.

What should I do?

DR




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Re: [LegacyUG] Question about mass cleanup of location

[Ron Ferguson]

Dennis M. Kowallek wrote:

On Sat, 31 Oct 2009 16:12:05 -, "Ron Ferguson"
 wrote:


Sure you can Keith, but I don't have to as it's in the Burial
Location field, so I do not need the clutter of Burial Events.

Just out of interest, because I can think of two, or more, ways of
getting your output from the Events, which are you using (in detail
please - wrt the description, location, address fields).


One advantage to making it an Event would be the ability to print
tombstone photos in reports.


Very true, Dennis and, for me, that is about the only advantage of a 
separate Event. Although I often suggest this method for those who find they 
cannot attach pictures, I do not use it myself as whether in a report or on 
a webpage, I prefer to position them myself.


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Re: [LegacyUG] Question about mass cleanup of location

[Jenny M Benson]

Brian L. Lightfoot wrote
And don't forget, with "Cemetery" entered as an Event, you can now 
attach a photograph of the gravestone which will also print out in 
reports. You can also make the photograph a Source for your Cemetery 
event as well as a source for Burial location, Name, Birth date, and 
Death date.


Like Ron, I do not want the clutter of Burial Events but I do have 
photographs of gravestones etc which I might want to have show in a 
report and I think it is important to remember that gravestones are not 
*necessarily* proof of a burial in a particular place.


My solution is to have an Event named Memorial (this might be a standard 
Legacy one, I forget) with a sentence something like 
"‹b›[EventName]‹/b›:  [Desc] [inPlace] bears the inscription 
[Notes].[Sources]" which reads "Memorial:  a Gravestone in Flaybrick 
Hill Cemetery [full address here] bears the inscription ..."


This covers not only gravestones but memorial plaques, War Memorials, 
headstones which have been removed from their original site, etc.

--
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RE: [LegacyUG] Question about mass cleanup of location

[Brian L. Lightfoot]

And don't forget, with "Cemetery" entered as an Event, you can now attach a
photograph of the gravestone which will also print out in reports. You can
also make the photograph a Source for your Cemetery event as well as a
source for Burial location, Name, Birth date, and Death date.

Brian in CA


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To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Question about mass cleanup of location

Ron,
  I just prefer the way Events come out in a report.  For this - I
named the event Cemetery (just start typing and it pops up in Event) ;
under Description I put the cemetery name : under date I put the date
of burial (at least year) : under Place I put the location
(City,County,State,USA for most of mine) and finally in Notes I put
the Plot and/or Find-A-Grave number.
Keith
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On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 12:12 PM, Ron Ferguson 
wrote:
> Sure you can Keith, but I don't have to as it's in the Burial Location
> field, so I do not need the clutter of Burial Events.
>
> Just out of interest, because I can think of two, or more, ways of getting
> your output from the Events, which are you using (in detail please - wrt
the
> description, location, address fields).
>
> Ron Ferguson
> _
>
>
> GeoSci wrote:
>>
>> Ron,
>>
>>  EASY!  Make the burial an EVENT - for my Grandfather - Armor LeRoy
>> McKain is says:
>>
>> Events
>>
>>


>>   1. He was buried at the Greenwood Cemetery in Lancaster, PA.
>> Mifflin Section
>>   - Lot 559   Find-A-Grave # 38226479
>>
>> Works for me!
>> Keith
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 11:49 AM, Ron Ferguson
>>  wrote:
>>>
>>> Jim,
>>>
>>> Why is your option a better method? I accept that the method of
>>> including the cemetery, and indeed house and street names in the
>>> Location field, and then right sorting does mean that the output is
>>> not suitable for the Geolocation function, but then that American
>>> function does not work for most non American countries (and as I
>>> understand it many American ones as well). Nor do I like loads of
>>> commas in Locations. Hence I rarely use it, and can tolerate a
>>> temporary rewrite of a location to make it fit if I do. Furthermore
>>> the Geolocation detabase requires modern locations and is no good
>>> for the no longer valid historic ones. In my view, not sufficient
>>> reason to say that 2ndCD method is better.
>>>
>>> Also, I would be interested to know how you manage to get Legacy to
>>> write in a report or web page "place of burial: Peel Green Cemetery,
>>> Peel Green, Eccles, Lancashire, England", for example or even
>>> "Forest Glade Cemetery, Wakefield, Middlesex, Masshatusetts, U.S.A."
>>> if you prefer it
>>>
>>> Ron Ferguson
>>> _
>>> Jim Walton wrote:

 The problems with doing this are presented in the 2nd CD tutorial.
 If you try to sort your localities by county or state, having the
 cemetery in the city location will cause the city to sort as a
 county. A better option is to use the + symbol by the burial and
 then enter the cemetery location and address in the burial address
 field. This way the location field can be used as designed, and the
 complete address information is available.

 Jim


 On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 8:05 PM, Jenny M Benson
  wrote:
>
> Randy Clark wrote
>>
>> OK, testing your method, I have a location:
>> Warrington Reformed Lutheren Church, Dover Twp, York Co,
>> Pennsylvania
>> So I click on Sort (which has been set to right-to-left) and then
>> can't find the location at all. This is why I thought that the use
>> of parentheses was necessary. Am I wrong?
>
> Your list should still be alphabetical and if you slide down to the
> Ps you should find all the Pennsylvanias together and near the
> bottom of them Pennsylvania, York County and if you have several
> locations in York Country Dover Twp is probably one of the first
> and again, if you have several locations in Dover Twp I suspect
> Warrington Reformed Lutheran Church is one of the last. (It's
> simply a case of knowing your alphabet, you see!) --
> Jenny M Benson
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Re: [LegacyUG] Question about mass cleanup of location

[Dennis M . Kowallek]

On Sat, 31 Oct 2009 16:12:05 -, "Ron Ferguson"
 wrote:

>Sure you can Keith, but I don't have to as it's in the Burial Location
>field, so I do not need the clutter of Burial Events.
>
>Just out of interest, because I can think of two, or more, ways of getting
>your output from the Events, which are you using (in detail please - wrt the
>description, location, address fields).

One advantage to making it an Event would be the ability to print
tombstone photos in reports.
 
-- 

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[LegacyUG] Can't download updates in Legacy Home

[Jane Fabiano-Turner]

I am unable to download updates. When I click on "Download and Install Now",
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Re: [LegacyUG] Question about mass cleanup of location

[RICHARD SCHULTHIES]

The main point is being missed of the Geo tool. If you put in the 'current' 
place name, get the actual long/lat and save those numbers. Then you can change 
the spelling (to Lutheren) or previous names (Massachusetts Bay Colony). I 
copy/duplicate the L/L into the notes. I don't open Geo again (for the same 
place). You can then use as many fields as you prefer.
Rich in LA CA



- Original Message 
From: Ron Ferguson 
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Sat, October 31, 2009 8:49:47 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Question about mass cleanup of location

Jim,

Why is your option a better method? I accept that the method of including the 
cemetery, and indeed house and street names in the Location field, and then 
right sorting does mean that the output is not suitable for the Geolocation 
function, but then that American function does not work for most non American 
countries (and as I understand it many American ones as well). Nor do I like 
loads of commas in Locations. Hence I rarely use it, and can tolerate a 
temporary rewrite of a location to make it fit if I do. Furthermore the 
Geolocation detabase requires modern locations and is no good  for the no 
longer valid historic ones. In my view, not sufficient reason to say that 2ndCD 
method is better.

Also, I would be interested to know how you manage to get Legacy to write in a 
report or web page "place of burial: Peel Green Cemetery, Peel Green, Eccles, 
Lancashire, England", for example or even "Forest Glade Cemetery, Wakefield, 
Middlesex, Masshatusetts, U.S.A." if you prefer it

Ron Ferguson
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Jim Walton wrote:
> The problems with doing this are presented in the 2nd CD tutorial. If
> you try to sort your localities by county or state, having the
> cemetery in the city location will cause the city to sort as a county.
> A better option is to use the + symbol by the burial and then enter
> the cemetery location and address in the burial address field. This
> way the location field can be used as designed, and the complete
> address information is available.
> 
> Jim
> 
> 
> On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 8:05 PM, Jenny M Benson
>  wrote:
>> Randy Clark wrote
>>> 
>>> OK, testing your method, I have a location:
>>> Warrington Reformed Lutheren Church, Dover Twp, York Co,
>>> Pennsylvania
>>> So I click on Sort (which has been set to right-to-left) and then
>>> can't find the location at all. This is why I thought that the use
>>> of parentheses was necessary. Am I wrong?
>> 
>> Your list should still be alphabetical and if you slide down to the
>> Ps you should find all the Pennsylvanias together and near the
>> bottom of them Pennsylvania, York County and if you have several
>> locations in York Country Dover Twp is probably one of the first and
>> again, if you have several locations in Dover Twp I suspect
>> Warrington Reformed Lutheran Church is one of the last. (It's simply
>> a case of knowing your alphabet, you see!) --
>> Jenny M Benson
>> 

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Re: [LegacyUG] Question about mass cleanup of location

[GeoSci]

Ron,
  I just prefer the way Events come out in a report.  For this - I
named the event Cemetery (just start typing and it pops up in Event) ;
under Description I put the cemetery name : under date I put the date
of burial (at least year) : under Place I put the location
(City,County,State,USA for most of mine) and finally in Notes I put
the Plot and/or Find-A-Grave number.
Keith
-- 
Find-A-Grave "County Keeper" for Schuylkill County, PA

Keith A. McKain
McCain-McKane-O'Kane DNA Group 1 - # Mc17936

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On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 12:12 PM, Ron Ferguson  wrote:
> Sure you can Keith, but I don't have to as it's in the Burial Location
> field, so I do not need the clutter of Burial Events.
>
> Just out of interest, because I can think of two, or more, ways of getting
> your output from the Events, which are you using (in detail please - wrt the
> description, location, address fields).
>
> Ron Ferguson
> _
>
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> 
>
>
> GeoSci wrote:
>>
>> Ron,
>>
>>  EASY!  Make the burial an EVENT - for my Grandfather - Armor LeRoy
>> McKain is says:
>>
>> Events
>>
>> 
>>   1. He was buried at the Greenwood Cemetery in Lancaster, PA.
>> Mifflin Section
>>   - Lot 559   Find-A-Grave # 38226479
>>
>> Works for me!
>> Keith
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 11:49 AM, Ron Ferguson
>>  wrote:
>>>
>>> Jim,
>>>
>>> Why is your option a better method? I accept that the method of
>>> including the cemetery, and indeed house and street names in the
>>> Location field, and then right sorting does mean that the output is
>>> not suitable for the Geolocation function, but then that American
>>> function does not work for most non American countries (and as I
>>> understand it many American ones as well). Nor do I like loads of
>>> commas in Locations. Hence I rarely use it, and can tolerate a
>>> temporary rewrite of a location to make it fit if I do. Furthermore
>>> the Geolocation detabase requires modern locations and is no good
>>> for the no longer valid historic ones. In my view, not sufficient
>>> reason to say that 2ndCD method is better.
>>>
>>> Also, I would be interested to know how you manage to get Legacy to
>>> write in a report or web page "place of burial: Peel Green Cemetery,
>>> Peel Green, Eccles, Lancashire, England", for example or even
>>> "Forest Glade Cemetery, Wakefield, Middlesex, Masshatusetts, U.S.A."
>>> if you prefer it
>>>
>>> Ron Ferguson
>>> _
>>>
>>> New Tutorial: Embed Blogger RSS feed into your Website
>>> http://www.fergys.co.uk
>>> Includes the family tree for Alan J Grimshaw
>>> http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/
>>> For The Fergusons of N.W. England
>>> http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/
>>> 
>>>
>>>
>>> Jim Walton wrote:

 The problems with doing this are presented in the 2nd CD tutorial.
 If you try to sort your localities by county or state, having the
 cemetery in the city location will cause the city to sort as a
 county. A better option is to use the + symbol by the burial and
 then enter the cemetery location and address in the burial address
 field. This way the location field can be used as designed, and the
 complete address information is available.

 Jim


 On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 8:05 PM, Jenny M Benson
  wrote:
>
> Randy Clark wrote
>>
>> OK, testing your method, I have a location:
>> Warrington Reformed Lutheren Church, Dover Twp, York Co,
>> Pennsylvania
>> So I click on Sort (which has been set to right-to-left) and then
>> can't find the location at all. This is why I thought that the use
>> of parentheses was necessary. Am I wrong?
>
> Your list should still be alphabetical and if you slide down to the
> Ps you should find all the Pennsylvanias together and near the
> bottom of them Pennsylvania, York County and if you have several
> locations in York Country Dover Twp is probably one of the first
> and again, if you have several locations in Dover Twp I suspect
> Warrington Reformed Lutheran Church is one of the last. (It's
> simply a case of knowing your alphabet, you see!) --
> Jenny M Benson
>
>>>
>>> _
>>>
>>> New Tutorial: Embed Blogger RSS feed into your Website
>>> http://www.fergys.co.uk
>>> Includes the family tree for Alan J Grimshaw
>>> http://www.fergys.c

Re: [LegacyUG] Question about mass cleanup of location

[Ron Ferguson]

Sure you can Keith, but I don't have to as it's in the Burial Location
field, so I do not need the clutter of Burial Events.

Just out of interest, because I can think of two, or more, ways of getting
your output from the Events, which are you using (in detail please - wrt the
description, location, address fields).

Ron Ferguson
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GeoSci wrote:

Ron,

  EASY!  Make the burial an EVENT - for my Grandfather - Armor LeRoy
McKain is says:

Events

   1. He was buried at the Greenwood Cemetery in Lancaster, PA.
Mifflin Section
   - Lot 559   Find-A-Grave # 38226479

Works for me!
Keith


On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 11:49 AM, Ron Ferguson
 wrote:

Jim,

Why is your option a better method? I accept that the method of
including the cemetery, and indeed house and street names in the
Location field, and then right sorting does mean that the output is
not suitable for the Geolocation function, but then that American
function does not work for most non American countries (and as I
understand it many American ones as well). Nor do I like loads of
commas in Locations. Hence I rarely use it, and can tolerate a
temporary rewrite of a location to make it fit if I do. Furthermore
the Geolocation detabase requires modern locations and is no good
for the no longer valid historic ones. In my view, not sufficient
reason to say that 2ndCD method is better.

Also, I would be interested to know how you manage to get Legacy to
write in a report or web page "place of burial: Peel Green Cemetery,
Peel Green, Eccles, Lancashire, England", for example or even
"Forest Glade Cemetery, Wakefield, Middlesex, Masshatusetts, U.S.A."
if you prefer it

Ron Ferguson
_

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http://www.fergys.co.uk
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http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/
For The Fergusons of N.W. England
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Jim Walton wrote:


The problems with doing this are presented in the 2nd CD tutorial.
If you try to sort your localities by county or state, having the
cemetery in the city location will cause the city to sort as a
county. A better option is to use the + symbol by the burial and
then enter the cemetery location and address in the burial address
field. This way the location field can be used as designed, and the
complete address information is available.

Jim


On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 8:05 PM, Jenny M Benson
 wrote:


Randy Clark wrote


OK, testing your method, I have a location:
Warrington Reformed Lutheren Church, Dover Twp, York Co,
Pennsylvania
So I click on Sort (which has been set to right-to-left) and then
can't find the location at all. This is why I thought that the use
of parentheses was necessary. Am I wrong?


Your list should still be alphabetical and if you slide down to the
Ps you should find all the Pennsylvanias together and near the
bottom of them Pennsylvania, York County and if you have several
locations in York Country Dover Twp is probably one of the first
and again, if you have several locations in Dover Twp I suspect
Warrington Reformed Lutheran Church is one of the last. (It's
simply a case of knowing your alphabet, you see!) --
Jenny M Benson



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Re: [LegacyUG] Question about mass cleanup of location

[GeoSci]

Ron,

  EASY!  Make the burial an EVENT - for my Grandfather - Armor LeRoy
McKain is says:

Events

   1. He was buried at the Greenwood Cemetery in Lancaster, PA. Mifflin Section
   - Lot 559   Find-A-Grave # 38226479

Works for me!
Keith

-- 
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Keith A. McKain
McCain-McKane-O'Kane DNA Group 1 - # Mc17936

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On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 11:49 AM, Ron Ferguson  wrote:
> Jim,
>
> Why is your option a better method? I accept that the method of including
> the cemetery, and indeed house and street names in the Location field, and
> then right sorting does mean that the output is not suitable for the
> Geolocation function, but then that American function does not work for most
> non American countries (and as I understand it many American ones as well).
> Nor do I like loads of commas in Locations. Hence I rarely use it, and can
> tolerate a temporary rewrite of a location to make it fit if I do.
> Furthermore the Geolocation detabase requires modern locations and is no
> good  for the no longer valid historic ones. In my view, not sufficient
> reason to say that 2ndCD method is better.
>
> Also, I would be interested to know how you manage to get Legacy to write in
> a report or web page "place of burial: Peel Green Cemetery, Peel Green,
> Eccles, Lancashire, England", for example or even "Forest Glade Cemetery,
> Wakefield, Middlesex, Masshatusetts, U.S.A." if you prefer it
>
> Ron Ferguson
> _
>
> New Tutorial: Embed Blogger RSS feed into your Website
> http://www.fergys.co.uk
> Includes the family tree for Alan J Grimshaw
> http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/
> For The Fergusons of N.W. England
> http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/
> 
>
>
> Jim Walton wrote:
>>
>> The problems with doing this are presented in the 2nd CD tutorial. If
>> you try to sort your localities by county or state, having the
>> cemetery in the city location will cause the city to sort as a county.
>> A better option is to use the + symbol by the burial and then enter
>> the cemetery location and address in the burial address field. This
>> way the location field can be used as designed, and the complete
>> address information is available.
>>
>> Jim
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 8:05 PM, Jenny M Benson
>>  wrote:
>>>
>>> Randy Clark wrote

 OK, testing your method, I have a location:
 Warrington Reformed Lutheren Church, Dover Twp, York Co,
 Pennsylvania
 So I click on Sort (which has been set to right-to-left) and then
 can't find the location at all. This is why I thought that the use
 of parentheses was necessary. Am I wrong?
>>>
>>> Your list should still be alphabetical and if you slide down to the
>>> Ps you should find all the Pennsylvanias together and near the
>>> bottom of them Pennsylvania, York County and if you have several
>>> locations in York Country Dover Twp is probably one of the first and
>>> again, if you have several locations in Dover Twp I suspect
>>> Warrington Reformed Lutheran Church is one of the last. (It's simply
>>> a case of knowing your alphabet, you see!) --
>>> Jenny M Benson
>>>
>
> _
>
> New Tutorial: Embed Blogger RSS feed into your Website
> http://www.fergys.co.uk
> Includes the family tree for Alan J Grimshaw
> http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/
> For The Fergusons of N.W. England
> http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/
> Follow me on twitter
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> 
>
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Question about mass cleanup of location

[Ron Ferguson]

Jim,

Why is your option a better method? I accept that the method of including 
the cemetery, and indeed house and street names in the Location field, and 
then right sorting does mean that the output is not suitable for the 
Geolocation function, but then that American function does not work for most 
non American countries (and as I understand it many American ones as well). 
Nor do I like loads of commas in Locations. Hence I rarely use it, and can 
tolerate a temporary rewrite of a location to make it fit if I do. 
Furthermore the Geolocation detabase requires modern locations and is no 
good  for the no longer valid historic ones. In my view, not sufficient 
reason to say that 2ndCD method is better.


Also, I would be interested to know how you manage to get Legacy to write in 
a report or web page "place of burial: Peel Green Cemetery, Peel Green, 
Eccles, Lancashire, England", for example or even "Forest Glade Cemetery, 
Wakefield, Middlesex, Masshatusetts, U.S.A." if you prefer it


Ron Ferguson
_

New Tutorial: Embed Blogger RSS feed into your Website
http://www.fergys.co.uk
Includes the family tree for Alan J Grimshaw
http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/
For The Fergusons of N.W. England
http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/



Jim Walton wrote:

The problems with doing this are presented in the 2nd CD tutorial. If
you try to sort your localities by county or state, having the
cemetery in the city location will cause the city to sort as a county.
A better option is to use the + symbol by the burial and then enter
the cemetery location and address in the burial address field. This
way the location field can be used as designed, and the complete
address information is available.

Jim


On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 8:05 PM, Jenny M Benson
 wrote:

Randy Clark wrote


OK, testing your method, I have a location:
Warrington Reformed Lutheren Church, Dover Twp, York Co,
Pennsylvania
So I click on Sort (which has been set to right-to-left) and then
can't find the location at all. This is why I thought that the use
of parentheses was necessary. Am I wrong?


Your list should still be alphabetical and if you slide down to the
Ps you should find all the Pennsylvanias together and near the
bottom of them Pennsylvania, York County and if you have several
locations in York Country Dover Twp is probably one of the first and
again, if you have several locations in Dover Twp I suspect
Warrington Reformed Lutheran Church is one of the last. (It's simply
a case of knowing your alphabet, you see!) --
Jenny M Benson



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Re: [LegacyUG] Tidying Up Addresses

[Ron Ferguson]

Sorry, June, but you have now lost me - not too difficult btw.

I thought that you did not know which way to go, rather than having specific 
problems, both Bruce and Jenny have given different ways, which I though 
would have answered your question.


If you are having a specific problem for which either of these ways do not 
work then please give a detailed example of the Location and how you are 
trying to change it, what the outcome you require is and what you are 
getting. We may then be able to help.


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June Chan wrote:

I wait with baited breath to find out what I am doing wrong..

Thanks for the search and replace suggestion Jenny.

Regards

June


What I would do is each time across a location with, say, UK that I
wanted to be United Kingdom(*) is use Search and Replace, selecting
Lists - Location for the "Find where".  Then repeat for Lists -
Location Short and Lists - Location Sorted.

(*) Except, of course, that I wouldn't have used UK or United
Kingdom in a location name!  Oh dear, I'm afraid you might have set
Ron off again!!!
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[LegacyUG] Cal vs. Ber Issue - Legacy Programmers

[Kay Fordham]

Please fix the glitch reported below earlier in the year in the new Legacy 
update. This is a real problem for me as it is sometimes necessary to change 
language to French or German for oversees relatives. When I change back to 
English then I forever see Ber instead of Cal in all printed reports. As 
Brian stated ,"Once you change language however the error in the .trn file 
changes Legacy's term for Calculated from Cal to Ber in all the future chart 
style reports you create."


Thank you,
Kay Fordham

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Re: [LegacyUG] Family Group Sheet Error - Calculated Date Terminology
Brian/Support
Tue, 28 Apr 2009 13:41:48 -0700
Kay,


Problem confirmed. There is an error in the .trn files which control the 
chart type reports wording. I have submitted a problem report on the issue. 
You will only see the error if you change the report language. So long as 
you were using the default language you used to install Legacy the term is 
correct. Once you change language however the error in the .trn file changes 
Legacy's term for Calculated from Cal to Ber in all the future chart style 
reports you create.

Kay Fordham wrote:

Using  7.0.0.90
Build Date of: 13 March 2009


When I use the calendar feature to calculate a date (in this case birth), it 
shows properly as "cal 3 April 1849" in the Family View; however, in the 
print preview and printed copy it shows up as "ber 3 April 1849." No problem 
with the others; i.e., bef, abt, aft. Can anyone else duplicate this 
anomaly?
Thanks, Kay Fordham 





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Re: [LegacyUG] Question about mass cleanup of location

[Jim Walton]

The problems with doing this are presented in the 2nd CD tutorial. If
you try to sort your localities by county or state, having the
cemetery in the city location will cause the city to sort as a county.
A better option is to use the + symbol by the burial and then enter
the cemetery location and address in the burial address field. This
way the location field can be used as designed, and the complete
address information is available.

Jim


On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 8:05 PM, Jenny M Benson  wrote:
> Randy Clark wrote
>>
>> OK, testing your method, I have a location:
>> Warrington Reformed Lutheren Church, Dover Twp, York Co, Pennsylvania
>> So I click on Sort (which has been set to right-to-left) and then can't
>> find the location at all. This is why I thought that the use of parentheses
>> was necessary. Am I wrong?
>
> Your list should still be alphabetical and if you slide down to the Ps you
> should find all the Pennsylvanias together and near the bottom of them
> Pennsylvania, York County and if you have several locations in York Country
> Dover Twp is probably one of the first and again, if you have several
> locations in Dover Twp I suspect Warrington Reformed Lutheran Church is one
> of the last.  (It's simply a case of knowing your alphabet, you see!)
> --
> Jenny M Benson
>
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Question about mass cleanup of location

[Randy Clark]

OK, it's working. Whoever said that parentheses needed to be used needs to
come over right now and help me remove them[?]. BTW I left Lutheran
misspelled as that's how it was in the original.
Thanks.

On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 7:05 AM, Jenny M Benson wrote:

> Randy Clark wrote
>
>  OK, testing your method, I have a location:
>> Warrington Reformed Lutheren Church, Dover Twp, York Co, Pennsylvania
>> So I click on Sort (which has been set to right-to-left) and then can't
>> find the location at all. This is why I thought that the use of parentheses
>> was necessary. Am I wrong?
>>
>
> Your list should still be alphabetical and if you slide down to the Ps you
> should find all the Pennsylvanias together and near the bottom of them
> Pennsylvania, York County and if you have several locations in York Country
> Dover Twp is probably one of the first and again, if you have several
> locations in Dover Twp I suspect Warrington Reformed Lutheran Church is one
> of the last.  (It's simply a case of knowing your alphabet, you see!)
>
> --
> Jenny M Benson
>
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Tidying Up Addresses

[Jim Walton]

The country name generally erroneously entered as United Kingdom or
Great Britain is actually England. Great Britain is the island that
includes England, Scotland, and Wales. The United Kingdom includes
these three countries and adds Northern Ireland. I'm sure Ron will
correct me if I'm wrong, at least I hope he will...

You probably need to change your references to England as the country.

Jim


On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 7:47 PM, June Chan  wrote:
> I wait with baited breath to find out what I am doing wrong..
>
> Thanks for the search and replace suggestion Jenny.
>
> Regards
>
> June
>
>
> What I would do is each time across a location with, say, UK that I
> wanted to be United Kingdom(*) is use Search and Replace, selecting
> Lists - Location for the "Find where".  Then repeat for Lists - Location
> Short and Lists - Location Sorted.
>
> (*) Except, of course, that I wouldn't have used UK or United Kingdom in
> a location name!  Oh dear, I'm afraid you might have set Ron off
> again!!!
> --
> Jenny M Benson
>
>
>
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Question about mass cleanup of location

[Jenny M Benson]

Randy Clark wrote

OK, testing your method, I have a location:
Warrington Reformed Lutheren Church, Dover Twp, York Co, Pennsylvania
So I click on Sort (which has been set to right-to-left) and then can't 
find the location at all. This is why I thought that the use of 
parentheses was necessary. Am I wrong?


Your list should still be alphabetical and if you slide down to the Ps 
you should find all the Pennsylvanias together and near the bottom of 
them Pennsylvania, York County and if you have several locations in York 
Country Dover Twp is probably one of the first and again, if you have 
several locations in Dover Twp I suspect Warrington Reformed Lutheran 
Church is one of the last.  (It's simply a case of knowing your 
alphabet, you see!)

--
Jenny M Benson



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RE: [LegacyUG] Tidying Up Addresses

[June Chan]

Point taken.

Regards

June


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Of Ron Ferguson
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To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Tidying Up Addresses
>>

It's very, very close, Jenny, but I would like to see an example location 
first, at this stage I would only add that we do not use GB either, neither 
being countries!

Ron Ferguson




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Re: [LegacyUG] Tidying Up Addresses

[Ron Ferguson]

Jenny M Benson wrote:

June Chan wrote

I am trying to tidy up the addresses in my database as I want to
standardise them (ie I have some where I have put UK and others
United Kingdrom) but I cannot remember how to do this. I have
checked the help file but am obviously not explaining myself very
well to it.

If someone could point me in the right direction it would be
appreciated.


What I would do is each time across a location with, say, UK that I
wanted to be United Kingdom(*) is use Search and Replace, selecting
Lists - Location for the "Find where".  Then repeat for Lists -
Location Short and Lists - Location Sorted.

(*) Except, of course, that I wouldn't have used UK or United
Kingdom in a location name!  Oh dear, I'm afraid you might have set
Ron off again!!!
--
Jenny M Benson



It's very, very close, Jenny, but I would like to see an example location 
first, at this stage I would only add that we do not use GB either, neither 
being countries!


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RE: [LegacyUG] Tidying Up Addresses

[June Chan]

I wait with baited breath to find out what I am doing wrong..

Thanks for the search and replace suggestion Jenny.

Regards

June


What I would do is each time across a location with, say, UK that I 
wanted to be United Kingdom(*) is use Search and Replace, selecting 
Lists - Location for the "Find where".  Then repeat for Lists - Location 
Short and Lists - Location Sorted.

(*) Except, of course, that I wouldn't have used UK or United Kingdom in 
a location name!  Oh dear, I'm afraid you might have set Ron off 
again!!!
-- 
Jenny M Benson





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Re: [LegacyUG] Question about mass cleanup of location

[Randy Clark]

OK, testing your method, I have a location:
Warrington Reformed Lutheren Church, Dover Twp, York Co, Pennsylvania
So I click on Sort (which has been set to right-to-left) and then can't find
the location at all. This is why I thought that the use of parentheses was
necessary. Am I wrong?

On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 8:03 PM, Jenny M Benson wrote:

> Arnold Sprague wrote
>
>I take a different approach to this and list the cemetery as a
>> *location*, but in a different order from what you have done in the past.
>> Here are two examples:
>> 1. Chicago, Cook, IL, USA, Graceland Cemetery
>> 2. Chicago, Cook, IL, USA, Graceland Cemetery, Sprague plot
>>   What is good, *for me*, is that, in the Master Location List, the
>> sort is based on state, city, county, country, etc., so this particular
>> cemetery is part of the Chicago "crowd."
>>
>
> But if you entered them in the normal way - Graceland Cemetery, Chicago,
> Cook, IL, USA - and then sorted from right to left that entry would still be
> part of the Chicago "crowd" as you put it!  Plus you'd have a normal-looking
> address.
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Re: [LegacyUG] Tidying Up Addresses

[Jenny M Benson]

June Chan wrote
I am trying to tidy up the addresses in my database as I want to 
standardise them (ie I have some where I have put UK and others United 
Kingdrom) but I cannot remember how to do this. I have checked the help 
file but am obviously not explaining myself very well to it.


If someone could point me in the right direction it would be 
appreciated.


What I would do is each time across a location with, say, UK that I 
wanted to be United Kingdom(*) is use Search and Replace, selecting 
Lists - Location for the "Find where".  Then repeat for Lists - Location 
Short and Lists - Location Sorted.


(*) Except, of course, that I wouldn't have used UK or United Kingdom in 
a location name!  Oh dear, I'm afraid you might have set Ron off 
again!!!

--
Jenny M Benson



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Re: [LegacyUG] Remarriage

[Jim Walton]

Duh, why didn't I think of that 

Thanks, Ken, I was negligent in not searching the archives first. I
can always claim the onset of senility, but I'll try not to let it
happen again. The last answer there was just what I was looking for.

Thanks all.

Jim


On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 1:48 AM, Ken  wrote:
> Jim,
>
> Regarding the handling of couples remarrying each other following a divorce, 
> you may
> want to follow this thread which appeared in the Legacy Archives back in 2007
> http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/msg09867.html
>
> Ken in Ottawa
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Jim Walton" 
> To: 
> Sent: Friday, October 30, 2009 9:25 AM
> Subject: [LegacyUG] Remarriage
>
>
> I have a cousin that married, divorced, then remarried the same
> individual several years later. Should I treat this as two separate
> marriages or merely add divorce and remarriage events? I keep
> vacillating back and forth so would like to hear how some of our
> professionals handle this situation.
>
> Jim
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Re: [LegacyUG] Tidying Up Addresses

[Bruce Jones]

Make your change in the "Master Location List".  If one location is
used by 10 people, one change in the "Master Location List" will
change the location for all 10 individuals.

On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 7:52 PM, June Chan  wrote:
>
> I am trying to tidy up the addresses in my database as I want to standardise
> them (ie I have some where I have put UK and others United Kingdrom) but I
> cannot remember how to do this. I have checked the help file but am
> obviously not explaining myself very well to it.
>
> If someone could point me in the right direction it would be appreciated.
>
> Thank you
>
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