Re: [LegacyUG] Employment Event vs Occupation Event

[Sharon Perdue]

The default wording for each event is very similar.  


Occupation:
He worked as a mailman.

Employment:
He was employed as a mailman.

You can change the wording, and set your own default.

Employment:
[HeShe] was employed by [Desc] ...

This would fit in with everyone's definition of Employment.


- Original Message - 
From: "M. Brenzel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Friday, April 11, 2008 10:19 PM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Employment Event vs Occupation Event


My thoughts are that Occupation is what is your job.  Employment is where
do/did you work for what dates.

For example, your occupation might be Nurse.  Employment would be the dates
that you worked at a particular hospital.


Mary

Such a wise man...
"A government big enough to give you everything you want is strong
enough to take everything you have."
"All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience
to remain silent."
"The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and
bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in
government."
- Thomas Jefferson



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Donna
Goldstein
Sent: Friday, April 11, 2008 9:20 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Employment Event vs Occupation Event


As far as Legacy is concerned, what is the difference between an Occupation
event and an Employment event? 
Or more generally, is there a cheat sheet somewhere that lists all the

predefined event names and what they actually mean?
Donna 
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Re: [LegacyUG] Unique Events you have made

[Sharon Perdue]

Physical Description might be a good event to record the height, build, eye 
color, hair color - all that are found recorded in the World War I Draft 
Registrations.



- Original Message - 
From: "Tracy Skegg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

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Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2007 12:59 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Unique Events you have made



I have added an event "Exemption from the Aboriginal Protection Act"
the proper name for the Act is "Aboriginal Protection and the
Restriction of the Sale of Opium Act 1897", I think its a very odd
name for an Act, so I just shorten it.

I've just noticed the "Physical description" event, never seen it
before, but was curious how people used it.  For my great grandmother
who was Aboriginal, one of her forms shows that she had a crooked
index finger on her right hand, this event would be a good place to
show this, I had it in general notes previously.
Cheers
Tracy



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Re: [LegacyUG] Unique Events you have made

[Sharon Perdue]

You could use Occupation for moonshiner since that's probably how he made his 
living. ;-)
  - Original Message - 
  From: Allen Prunty 
  To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com 
  Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2007 9:24 AM
  Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Unique Events you have made


  My event for jail is simply called jail.

  The sentence that it generates is...

  [HeShe] was incarcerated at [Desc], [onDate] [inPlace].[Sources] [Notes]

  My moonshie event reads

  [HeShe] was a moonshiner [onDate] [inPlace].[Sources] [Notes]

  I usually on the jail event use the Between Jan 1, 1920 and Feb 14, 1920 for 
the time he was in jail... then freeform sentences as to why in the Notes 
field.  Looks good on the reports.

  My Grandparents actually met running moonshine from Tennessee to Chicago.  
Grandma told me stories of putting it in tires and doing all kinds of things to 
get it up there during prohibition.  How else did a Country Irish boy and a 
city mob family-girl get together.  The only things they had in common was 
moonshine and Catholicism.

  Allen

  marilyn E B wrote: 
Allen,

How do you handle the "jail" issue, actually mine was "workhouse"  and
then there would be "moonshine" that contributed to the workhouse.
Then I also have the problem
that the family members were scattered all over that census year. Well
one son was
also in the workhouse with his father. Various family members have
verified that they not only made the moonshine, they ran the
moonshine. I do not think any of these folks
were aligned with anyone as infamous as Capone, this was just their
way of making a
living.

Smiles,
Marilyn

On 10/6/07, Allen Prunty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  Just to add a bit of levity here...

How many of you have made unique events?

Like I have one that I created called "Jail" where I logged the jail
time that one of my ancestors spent in jail.  I have another called
"Prison" and one called "Moonshine"

(My family was intwined with the capones)

Allen



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Re: [LegacyUG] Unique Events you have made - LAND and MILITARY related

[Sharon Perdue]

I have added events for "Land - Sold", "Land - Inherited" , "Land - Sold" 
and others so I could have the sentences worded how I wanted them, instead 
of trying to find another record where someone inherited land to see how I 
worded that "sentence override".




Also added various military events for the same reason - "Military - POW", 
"Military - Battle", "Military - Wounded", etc.




Sharon





- Original Message - 
From: "Allen Prunty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

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Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2007 6:07 PM
Subject: [LegacyUG] Unique Events you have made



Just to add a bit of levity here...

How many of you have made unique events?

Like I have one that I created called "Jail" where I logged the jail time 
that one of my ancestors spent in jail.  I have another called "Prison" 
and one called "Moonshine"


(My family was intwined with the capones)

Allen



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[LegacyUG] Unique events - YEAR EVENT - timeline type info

[Sharon Perdue]

I just added an event called "Year Event".  Currently, I am using this for 
things of interest I have found for specific years. These are timeline type 
events, that I thought were interesting or fun, and wanted them in each 
report I do for the records to which I have attached them, without having to 
add a timeline report.




Linking to everyone with a birth year of 1957, born in US - announcement 
that appeared in newspapers across the United States that said:


"The birth of a new car, the Edsel, is announced by the Ford Motor Company 
of Dearborn, Michigan. You are cordially invited to see this new addition to 
the Ford Family of Fine Cars at your nearest Edsel dealer."




Linking to someone who was born (individual event) or married (marriage 
event) in 1904:


The average life expectancy in the US was 47 years.

Only 14% of the homes in the US had a bathtub.

Only 8% of the homes had a telephone. A three-minute call from Denver to New 
York City cost $11.00.


There were only 8,000 cars in the US, and only 144 miles of paved roads. The 
maximum speed limit in most cities was 10 mph.


Alabama, Mississippi, Iowa, and Tennessee were each more heavily populated 
than California. With a mere 1.4 million residents, California was only the 
21st most populous state in the Union. The population of Las Vegas, Nevada, 
was 30!




Sharon




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Re: [LegacyUG] Unique events - YEAR EVENT - timeline type info

[Sharon Perdue]

I got the info about the Edsel ad from The Red Cloud Chief (Red Cloud, 
Nebraska) newspaper - they have a column called "Down Thru The Years" where 
they go back to the old newspapers and print items from them each week.

I got the 1904 data in an e-mail.  I just now googled 1904 statistics and found 
this type of data on infoplease.com/year/1904.html.  You can go backwards and 
forwards by year at this site.  Things are broken out into World Events/US 
Events/Economics/Sports/Entertainment/
Science/Deaths.  

There are probably many more sites with this type of information.

Sharon

  - Original Message - 
  From: Jim Keener 
  To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com 
  Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2007 2:17 PM
  Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Unique events - YEAR EVENT - timeline type info


  That's some very interesting information, Sharon.  I would love to have info 
like that in the form that you displayed here.  I have Personal Historian but 
its information is not as broad as what you've shown.

  Thanks,

  Jim

   
  On 10/7/07, Sharon Perdue <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
I just added an event called "Year Event".  Currently, I am using this for
things of interest I have found for specific years. These are timeline type 
events, that I thought were interesting or fun, and wanted them in each
report I do for the records to which I have attached them, without having to
add a timeline report.



Linking to everyone with a birth year of 1957, born in US - announcement 
that appeared in newspapers across the United States that said:

"The birth of a new car, the Edsel, is announced by the Ford Motor Company
of Dearborn, Michigan. You are cordially invited to see this new addition 
to 
the Ford Family of Fine Cars at your nearest Edsel dealer."



Linking to someone who was born (individual event) or married (marriage
event) in 1904:

The average life expectancy in the US was 47 years. 

Only 14% of the homes in the US had a bathtub.

Only 8% of the homes had a telephone. A three-minute call from Denver to New
York City cost $11.00.

There were only 8,000 cars in the US, and only 144 miles of paved roads. 
The 
maximum speed limit in most cities was 10 mph.

Alabama, Mississippi, Iowa, and Tennessee were each more heavily populated
than California. With a mere 1.4 million residents, California was only the
21st most populous state in the Union. The population of Las Vegas, Nevada, 
was 30!



Sharon




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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy Training CD's question

[Sharon Perdue]

Karima said: I have found them to be very useful and worth the price I paid 
for them.


I agree with Karima.  I guess Legacy could jack up the price and include the 
training CD's, or keep the price as it is and let only those who want the 
training CD's to purchase them separately.


Sharon

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To: 
Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2007 1:59 PM
Subject: [LegacyUG] Legacy Training CD's question



I am hesitant to purchase the training CD collection,
and wanted feedback on whether LUG members feel they
are worth the cost.

I am one with a mindset that feels tutorials and
training should be free with purchase of software for
adequate usage.

Thanks,
Jess M

Jess M
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CJ-9
Jo-7






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Re: [LegacyUG] Event sorting

[Sharon Perdue]

By date - so that they appear in order of occurrence in all reports

Sharon

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Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2007 6:07 PM
Subject: [LegacyUG] Event sorting



Do people sort their events by type or
chronologically?

I was sorting by type (censuses, residences,
occupations), but you end up duplicating information
following this method.



Thanks,

Ralf


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Re: [LegacyUG] Location list

[Sharon Perdue]

I use the county that matches the date and then have my location like this:

Mount Pleasant, Montgomery County (Stanly County 1841), North Carolina, USA

with the new county name and the year that happened in parentheses.  In some 
cases, the 2nd county also changed at a later time, which looks like this:

Anytown, First County (Second County 1841/Third County 1950), North Carolina, 
USA
  - Original Message - 
  From: Toni Sano 
  To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com 
  Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2007 6:52 PM
  Subject: [LegacyUG] Location list


  I have been reviewing my master location list (mostly English places) and I 
realize I have some locations that refer to the same physical location (eg a 
street address) but the county has changed.  I would like to know how people 
handle this situation.
  Cathy
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Re: [LegacyUG] Citing Cemetery Source

[Sharon Perdue]

Sourcing cemetery trip:
Source List Name:  Cemetery NC 2007 photo
Type: Personal Knowledge
Title: North Carolina Cemetery Visit And Tombstone Photo Taken By Sharon 
Payne Perdue

Publication Facts: September 23-24, 2007

This way I can see what photos I took on each trip.  Some have no death 
date, so I check those when I get to that cemetery again, but I do take a 
photo the first time.  I may never get to that cemetery again!


I make a Cemetery Event for each person and attach their tombstone photo to 
that event.  In the event NOTES, I describe the tombstone with something 
like this - Upright stone marker with open Bible at top.
And then I have Inscription: and put the wording and any other description 
here.  If the photo is too small in some reports, someone can still see what 
is on the tombstone. I also update the Address Information (Address Icon), 
and attach a photo of the cemetery entrance to the address, and under NOTES 
here I usually write the directions from a central nearby place - ex: from 
123 North Main Street in Mt Pleasant, go west to the stoplight and turn left 
onto Franklin Street 


Example of one of the NOTES in one of my cemetery events:
Upright double stone marker. Inscription: SAFRIT at top; left side Milas 
Safrit Dec 17, 1853 Aug 7, 1938;  right side Etta S Ritchie wife of Milas 
Safrit Mar 15, 1856 Aug 15, 1920.


Sharon Perdue

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From: "Jess M" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2007 5:35 PM
Subject: [LegacyUG] Citing Cemetery Source



I made some trips to family cemeteries recently, and
photographed the tombstones, so that I could
incorporate the information into my Legacy file.

How do you all source a trip to the cemetery, or do
you?

I'm in the master source screen, trying to set this
right. I've clicked on the pictures tab, then the
pictures box. I'm trying to add the pictures to the
source citation, but don't see a button that allows me
to do that.
What am I doing wrong?

Jess M
Proud to be Single Mom to
CJ-9
Jo-7






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Re: [LegacyUG] Giving thanks on the list (was: Died unmarried)

[Sharon Perdue]

Valerie said: "The other thing about this Wendy is if you reply to the 
person personally you will have to cut and paste the original message."


I do a reply and then cut/paste (the e-mail address of the person I am 
directing thanks to) over the Legacy address under To:


Sharon


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To: 
Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2007 5:37 PM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Giving thanks on the list (was: Died unmarried)



The other thing about this Wendy is if you reply to the person
personally you will have to cut and paste the original message.

Regards from Valerie in sunny Sydney.
Researching: BEDDY, CULLODEN, DYAS and ROWAN in Dublin, Wicklow &
Wexford

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Wendy
Howard
Sent: Sunday, 28 October 2007 8:19 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Giving thanks on the list (was: Died unmarried)


Valerie asked "Is it better to acknowledge the help given or does this
add unnecessarily to the list ?"

Saying "thank you" and acknowledging the help you've received is always
a polite thing to do, and not doing so can have a detrimental effect on
future requests.  Someone who helped you once may decide it isn't worth
their while to help you another time if you don't show this common
courtesy.

Posting a thanks to the list for each individual response is a bit much,

and can clutter the list.  Better, in my view, to wait a while and post
once acknowledging the names involved in helping you, or post a generic
one thanking all but not naming them.  Or reply privately to each poster

who has helped you - this last one requires a little more work on your
part when it's a discussion on the LUG, because you have to remember to
replace the list address in the To: field with the poster's address to
make it a private email - but with a little thought and care it can be
done.

Hope this helps.  :-)

Kind Regards,
Wendy Howard
--
Kaiwaka, Northland, New Zealand
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Re: [LegacyUG] How to omit blank line at the end of the events when printed ?

[Sharon Perdue]

In the event notes, go to the LAST character and hit the delete key on your 
keyboard and hold it down for a couple of seconds.  As I create events, I 
ALWAYS do this after I type in the last character.


Sharon

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Sent: Friday, November 02, 2007 7:55 PM
Subject: [LegacyUG] How to omit blank line at the end of the events when 
printed ?




Can some one please tell me how to omit these blank lines that print in
the event section at the end and also those at the end of all notes.

I have been in to the print options and can not see how to do this.

Regards from Valerie in sunny Sydney.
Researching: BEDDY, CULLODEN, DYAS and ROWAN in Dublin, Wicklow &
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Re: [LegacyUG] Printing Source Comments Correctly

[Sharon Perdue]

Some possibilities:
1) make source comments italics as you enter/update each (highlight all, 
then CTRL & I)

2) start all comments with the word Comments:


- Original Message - 
From: "Deck and Margot" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2007 2:29 PM
Subject: [LegacyUG] Printing Source Comments Correctly



Hi everyone,
When printing source "comments" on a report, it prints immediately after 
source "text". That is all well and good, except there is no formatting in 
the report that distinguishes the difference between the two. The source 
"comments" begin as another regular sentence after the last sentence from 
the source "text".
Is there anyway to separate source "comments" ? A different line? 
Different font? hanging indent??

Any input is appreciated.
Deck

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Re: [LegacyUG] Re: Holiday Reports

[Sharon Perdue]

I did a birthday calendar for a reunion.  I had ALL the descendants of my 
great grandparents (who are the link for the reunion).  I was surprised how 
most people were VERY interested.  It was fun for them to see who shared 
their birthday.



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To: 
Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2007 4:00 AM
Subject: [LegacyUG] Re: Holiday Reports



Hi all,

Do you have any suggestions/ideas/hints on genealogical reports I can
generate from Legacy that
are popular with the family for the holidays?

Perhaps birthday calendars, or neat looking family trees, or
fill-in-the-blank questionnaires, or something else similar and fun?

Thanks.
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Re: [LegacyUG] Re: Holiday Reports

[Sharon Perdue]

You can do either one.  Reports - Calendar Creator and Calendar List Report. 
Mine was a calendar format, not a list.


Sharon

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Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2007 2:38 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Re: Holiday Reports



Hi Sharon,
Is the only style for the birthday calendar a page by page calendar
that looks like the type you hang on a wall?

I would like one that just prints out the birthdays and anniversaries
in a list format. I think I had this capability with the old Family
Roots. I have the previous version of FTM - maybe that does it?

Thanks,
Susan

On 11/17/07, Sharon Perdue <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

I did a birthday calendar for a reunion.  I had ALL the descendants of my
great grandparents (who are the link for the reunion).  I was surprised 
how

most people were VERY interested.  It was fun for them to see who shared
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Re: [LegacyUG] Alternate names one more time

[Sharon Perdue]

yes
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  From: Michele Lewis 
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  Sent: Friday, November 23, 2007 10:11 AM
  Subject: [LegacyUG] Alternate names one more time


  Do you think it is a good idea to put a woman's married name as an AKA for 
searching purposes?

  Carolyn Corrine Simmons 

  and then as an AKA
  Carolyn Corrine Crow
  Carolyn Crow
  Carolyn Simmons Crow
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Re: [LegacyUG] Individual's Information Screen

[Sharon Perdue]

Been using Legacy for several years and I never knew this, and never noticed 
that the field names were actually a different color.  Very cool!  Love this 
list.

Sharon
  - Original Message - 
  From: Jim Keener 
  To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com 
  Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2007 11:14 AM
  Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Individual's Information Screen


  That fixed it George.  

  Thank you,

  Jim


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Jim,
I had this problem quite a while ago and if I remember
correctly I think I fixed it by changing the color scheme 
back to the Legacy default. Not sure which scheme I had
changed to that seemed to have caused the problem.
George


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Subject: [LegacyUG] Individual's Information Screen


I know the field names are supposed to be turned blue when
there is a source
entered for that field, but I just noticed that my field
names are now
black, regardless of whether there is a source listed for
the event or not.
I've searched through my manual and online help files and I 
can't figure out
what has happened.  I'm sure the problem is probably in the
customize
section, but I can't seem to find it.  Can someone please
help?

Thanks to everyone who posts here.  I love it.  Rarely post, 
read every day.

Jim

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Re: [LegacyUG] Emigration/Immigration

[Sharon Perdue]

How about Travel?
  - Original Message - 
  From: Ruth Nerud 
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  Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2007 11:41 AM
  Subject: [LegacyUG] Emigration/Immigration


  I'm having enough trouble keeping straight when a person emigrates and when 
he/she immigrates, but what do I call it when a naturalized American citizen 
sails back to his home country for a visit? I looked through all the Event 
Definitions and can't find anything. Is there an Event Definition for a citizen 
sailing? I've just added an Event Definition for Passport because that's where 
I found this information.

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Re: [LegacyUG] Hollerith

[Sharon Perdue]

I DO have an event!!  Here it is:
Sharon learned her trade on the job.  There was a mainframe computer onsite, 
and everyone had to submit their jobs through punched cards, putting up 
large tapes on tape drives, inserting a large computer disk, and retreiving 
the printed output.  Programs were keyed on keypunch machines, which 
produced punched cards. Data to be input through these programs was also on 
punched cards, large tapes or computer disks. Here, she worked on the first 
automated systems in the Commonwealth of Virginia for tracking diseases of 
cattle (brucelosis and mastitis), paint registration (tracking every brand 
and color of paint sold in the state, the ingredients of each, locations of 
buying and selling) and a system to track the sale of milk and the farm of 
orgination. Sharon's grandfather Ritchie had said to her when he learned of 
her new job, that he had heard she was working on a "glorified adding 
machine".




Side note: When I first started as a programmer, a computer system was on 
order, but not on site.  So the sales people would drive from Richmond VA to 
Baltimore MD each night with boxes of punched cards to run through the 
computer.  Then they would drive back to Richmond, and the next morning we 
would get our boxes of cards and the program print outs - only to discover 
all our own keypunch errors (no keypunch staff) and the nightly routine 
would start all over again.  When the computer was finally delivered, there 
were no computer operators, so the programmers were also the own operators.


- Original Message - 
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To: 
Sent: Friday, December 14, 2007 6:04 PM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Hollerith



On topic - of course you have all this information recorded under Event -
occupation for the younger generation to read and marvel at?! :-)

--
Margaret Couch
NZ

Ed Lawler wrote:

I apologize for being totally off topic (I don't encourage it, and I
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Re: [LegacyUG] Commercially printing a 15 Generation Pedigree Chart

[Sharon Perdue]

Legacy Charting Companion will do this for you.  


Sharon Perdue

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To: 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 12:24 PM
Subject: [LegacyUG] Commercially printing a 15 Generation Pedigree Chart


I have an old 15 Generation Pedigree Chart (25" x 27") 
<http://www.thefamilyhistorystore.com/product_info.php?products_id=157> 
which I filled out manually back in the days of my old DOS 
genealogical program. Now I am wondering if one can print a 15 
Generation Pedigree Chart via a "modern" genealogical program. I am 
thinking of using Kinkos with its large format printers.


How do I produce a file to make a 15 Generation Pedigree Chart which 
Kinkos, for example, can use to print it. Does Legacy 6.x provide 
this? Will Legacy 7.x provide this? Is there an intermediary program 
that provides this?


  Arnold





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Re: [LegacyUG] Commercially printing a 15 Generation Pedigree Chart

[Sharon Perdue]

- Original Message - 
From: "Arnold Sprague" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 1:22 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Commercially printing a 15 Generation Pedigree Chart



Sharon,
What do you mean by "Legacy Charting Companion will do this for you"?
Does it provide a pdf file? Can I take the file to most any large print 
shop, such as Kinkos? Is this an easy task? Are there some tips and tricks 
I should be aware of?

I really need some detailed answers from those who have been there.
Arnold


At 11:58 AM 12/28/2007, you wrote:

Legacy Charting Companion will do this for you.

Sharon Perdue

- Original Message - From: "Arnold Sprague" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 12:24 PM
Subject: [LegacyUG] Commercially printing a 15 Generation Pedigree Chart


I have an old 15 Generation Pedigree Chart (25" x 27") 
<http://www.thefamilyhistorystore.com/product_info.php?products_id=157> 
which I filled out manually back in the days of my old DOS genealogical 
program. Now I am wondering if one can print a 15 Generation Pedigree 
Chart via a "modern" genealogical program. I am thinking of using Kinkos 
with its large format printers.
How do I produce a file to make a 15 Generation Pedigree Chart which 
Kinkos, for example, can use to print it. Does Legacy 6.x provide this? 
Will Legacy 7.x provide this? Is there an intermediary program that 
provides this?

  Arnold






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Re: [LegacyUG] Commercially printing a 15 Generation Pedigree Chart

[Sharon Perdue]

It creates a file that you can bring to Kinko's.  That is exactly what I 
did.  One I created was about 6 feet long. It was not difficult - I fooled 
around with choices for about an hour or so until I got it like I wanted it 
to look.  You can preview it as one long chart, which I kept doing until I 
was happy with it.  When I went to Kinko's, I told them the size (the 
software tell you what size you have.)


It's been over a year since I did the last one.

Sharon

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To: 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 1:22 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Commercially printing a 15 Generation Pedigree Chart



Sharon,
What do you mean by "Legacy Charting Companion will do this for you"?
Does it provide a pdf file? Can I take the file to most any large print 
shop, such as Kinkos? Is this an easy task? Are there some tips and tricks 
I should be aware of?

I really need some detailed answers from those who have been there.
Arnold


At 11:58 AM 12/28/2007, you wrote:

Legacy Charting Companion will do this for you.

Sharon Perdue

- Original Message - From: "Arnold Sprague" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 12:24 PM
Subject: [LegacyUG] Commercially printing a 15 Generation Pedigree Chart


I have an old 15 Generation Pedigree Chart (25" x 27") 
<http://www.thefamilyhistorystore.com/product_info.php?products_id=157> 
which I filled out manually back in the days of my old DOS genealogical 
program. Now I am wondering if one can print a 15 Generation Pedigree 
Chart via a "modern" genealogical program. I am thinking of using Kinkos 
with its large format printers.
How do I produce a file to make a 15 Generation Pedigree Chart which 
Kinkos, for example, can use to print it. Does Legacy 6.x provide this? 
Will Legacy 7.x provide this? Is there an intermediary program that 
provides this?

  Arnold






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Re: [LegacyUG] Large Files Size of Files and Plain text

[Sharon Perdue]

You are right about too lazy to spell them out.  I think it all started with 
instant messaging (IM).  It seems children will soon not be able to spell 
words correctly.  I know that one of my daughter's teachers let these 
abbreviations go in a paper she wrote without marking them as wrong!


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Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Large Files Size of Files and Plain text



Sorry,
but with al your LETTERwords, I hate them, take 3 letters ad random and 
english speaking people find a meaning to it; to leazy to type it out so 
people whos natural language is not English do not have to hope they are 
correct in the interpretation?

Guido
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Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Large Files Size of Files and Plain text



Oh - I thought LOL meant Lots of Love - it does in England!
Elizabeth

Gary Brown wrote:

LOL = Laugh Out Loud.
BTW = By The Way
IMHO = In My Humble Opinion

(Or so my daughter tells me.)
GB

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What does LOL mean??  I'm new.




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Re: [LegacyUG] Multiple Sources - same event

[Sharon Perdue]

Name field.  The name of a person has several parts - first, middle, last, 
suffix.  Various sources only have parts of the name.  In the detail source, 
I list the parts of the name that this particular source is showing. 
Example:
Richard Thornton Perdue Seniorsource detail: first, middle, 
last, suffix
Richard T. Perdue source detail: first, 
middle initial, last
Richard Perdue source detail: first, 
last
Dick Perdue  source detail: 
nickname, last
Each of these are from totally different sources - birth certificate, death 
certificate, census, newspaper article, etc.


Sharon Perdue



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To: 
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Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Multiple Sources - same event


I have a similar question. One may for example have multiple secondary 
sources for a piece of information, but no primary source. Multiple census 
records for example might be used to calculate a birth year. Or they may or 
may not all agree.  Absent a birth certificate sometimes it is the sum of 
other evidence that leads to a tentative conclusion. Is there a way to 
assign more than one source to things such as the name, birth date, place, 
etc?


Gary Templeman

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From: Tim Willis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Hello Listers,

I just wanted to get an opinion on something.  This afternoon, I hold in 
my
hand, a computer marriage report print out from a cousin who is doing 
much of
the same research I am.  For some people in my database, it will be the 
only
source (not yet verified, but it is a source never the less), and for 
others, it

is just one more confirmation that others have the same dates I do.

So, does a good family historian cite the marriage report on top of all 
the
other (in some cases primary) sources?  It seems if I did this for every 
piece

of paper I receive from both sides of the family, I would end up with a
confusing mound of sources for.. say.. my parents marriage!  Or am I 
being too..

what's the word?

Tim





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Re: [LegacyUG] First wife - I still need help please

[Sharon Perdue]

Family View
Husband
Look at the icons below the box of his info and above the marriage line
First icon (at least on my screen) shows a person with a blue jacket and 
white blouse - it shows the number of wives he has

Click on that icon
In the box that pops up, look at the lower right hand corner, it says 
"Order" with little arrows

Click on a person and then move her up or down using the "Order" buttons


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To: 
Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2008 5:45 AM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] First wife - I still need help please



Please see previous message

Regards from Valerie in sunny Sydney.
Researching: BEDDY, CULLODEN, DYAS and ROWAN in Belfast, Dublin, Wicklow
& Wexford
Guild of One-Name Studies No: 4825 for CULLODEN & HIGGINSON

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Wayne
Boian
Sent: Wednesday, 26 March 2008 2:05 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] First wife


If I understand your question correctly you need to  click on the icon
that
show multiple wife's and select sort to put them in the correct order of

marriage. Also you need to indicate on the first wife it the marriage
ended
in divorce or death.
I am still new at this so take it with a grain of salt.

Wayne


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To: 
Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2008 9:15 PM
Subject: [LegacyUG] First wife



I can not find [ having looked at the help menu ] how to make the first



wife the first wife in the reports.

Regards from Valerie in sunny Sydney.
Researching: BEDDY, CULLODEN, DYAS and ROWAN in Belfast, Dublin,
Wicklow & Wexford Guild of One-Name Studies No: 4825 for CULLODEN &
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Re: [LegacyUG] Report of Death Dates

[Sharon Perdue]

And don't forget the married names
- Original Message - 
From: "JLB" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2008 3:50 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Report of Death Dates


If you want your entire database, use the Print Options in the Name List. 
Customize the columns to show names and death dates, assuming that's what 
you want.  Click Customize and put surname in the first column, given 
names in the second and death date in the third.


JL
JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists
http://www3.telus.net/Jgen/jlog.html

Margaret Hope wrote:



Hi All,

I want to do a Legacy report for Death Dates in my Legacy Database.

The reason for this is so I can go to the library and look up obituaries.

Can someone please guide me?

Cheers


*M*/arg/ //


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Re: [LegacyUG] Global Find and Replace

[Sharon Perdue]

view/master list/location then go to the one you want to change, make the change
On 6/24/06, hpandjl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I found a while ago that I had inadvertently misspelled a place name or madea slight alteration, creating extra, inaccurate, entries. I was thrilled to
find that you can go to View>Master Lists>Location and perform a "find" forwords in the name of the place that has multiple entries, and either chooseor create an accurate one, then merge all the others into that one. It
works!JudieFrom: Greenvale [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Saturday, June 24, 2006 4:55 PMTo: 
LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.comSubject: [LegacyUG] Global Find and Replace* Replies will be sent through Spamex toLegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
* For additional info click -> www.spamex.com/i/?v=10251942Can anyone tell me if there is a way to replace all occurrences of a placename and correct the spelling and add the county, or does one have to find
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Re: [LegacyUG] Relationships not Husband/Wife

[Sharon Perdue]

Wikipedia:

"Genealogy is the study and tracing of family pedigrees. This involves the 
collection of the names of relatives, both living and deceased, and 
establishing the relationships between them based on primary, secondary 
and/or circumstantial evidence or documentation, thus building up a cohesive 
family tree. Genealogy is sometimes also referred to as family history, 
although these terms may be used distinctly: the former being the basic 
study of who is related to whom; the latter involving more "fleshing out" of 
the life and family histories of the individuals involved."


"A family consists of a domestic group of people (or a number of domestic 
groups), typically affiliated by birth or marriage, or by comparable legal 
relationships — including domestic partnership, adoption, surname and (in 
some cases) ownership (as occurred in the Roman Empire).


Although many people (including social scientists) have understood familial 
relationships in terms of "blood", many anthropologists have argued that one 
must understand the notion of "blood" metaphorically, and that many 
societies understand 'family' through other concepts rather than through 
genetics."


- Original Message - 
From: "Tom Montgomery" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Friday, July 21, 2006 12:32 PM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Relationships not Husband/Wife


Genelogy is all about "genes" - i.e. the bloodline. Either an individual 
is

in the bloodline or not. In this case if the mother of the child is indeed
in the bloodline then the partner relationship actually has no bearing on
the situation. But if the mother is not in the bloodline then actually 
none
should be included in the data base as there is no blood relationship to 
the

ancestors. The child will be eligible for inclusion in the fathers
biologicial line but not the mothers. If you wish to make an inelegible
exception and include the nuclear family for social reasons just make sure
that all is well documented.

TomM

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Anne
Hildrum
Sent: Friday, July 21, 2006 8:02 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Relationships not Husband/Wife


From: "C.G. Ouimet" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>




A recurring theme ...

While it may be legally possible and socially acceptable to have
partners of the same gender, it is biologically and genealogically

impossible.

Legacy currently operates on biology/genealogy principles as all
genealogy programs and databases should.

Allowing same gender parents would lead to much confusion as files
containing such relationships get passed on.


I wonder why. It is as you say legally possble, one is the biological and
the other has adopted the child and they live together, why would the
adoptive female be so much different than an adoptive male?

Actually what is confusing is when you do send a tree on its way today it
contain errors as in the commented case, one of the females ends up as a
male. My solution is just to make a comment that the person is in fact
female/male, but Legacy can't deal with todays reality. Some other 
programs

do handle this.

You say "Legacy currently operates on biology/genealogy principles  as all
genealogy programs and databases should"

That of course is not entirely correct as it do accept adoptions as long 
as
they are between two of different sex, but that does not have anything to 
do
with biology/genealogy principles. It does also have a isp name 
familytree,

so I guess they didn't think only biology when they started it.

Anne




At 2006/07/21 05:29, you wrote:

I have scoured every corner of Legacy and can't work out this problem.
I assume that it cannot be done, but wonder if anyone else has faced
this situation and found a solution.

In my tree, I have a family with two female parents who have a child.
One is the biological parent, the other has adopted the child. I have
been able to set the labels for the two women as Partners and their
relationship as a life partnership, but cannot assign a correct gender
for both of them.
Legacy seems to insist that they are husband and wife and married, and
tells me that I cannot assign the same gender to a husband and wife
This despite checking the box "This couple never married."

I also have a few family members who kept their maiden names. I can't
find a place to have them show up with their maiden names if they have
a husband.

I guess I just have a strange family, eh?

Judie



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Re: [LegacyUG] Where to Enter Obits?

[Sharon Perdue]

Here is a sample of what I do with obits from my grandmother's scrapbook:

Source List Name: Newspaper NC - Obituary
Type: Newspaper
Title: Obituary
Publication Facts: Newspaper name unknown; Cabarrus County, North Carolina 
area

Comments: Clipping from scrapbook of Mittie HAHN RITCHIE

Sharon


- Original Message - 
From: "Patricia Hickin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2006 11:39 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Where to Enter Obits?


What about UNC? (unidentified newspaper clipping), which no doubt would 
have appeared in the local newspaper where the person lived and the 
approximate date -- soon after the person died.


If reasonably recent you can do a Google search and find the name of 
newspaper, date, and obituary itself.  Most cities have only one or two 
newspapers and maintain obituary archives.


Pat

- Original Message - 
From: "Mike" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Sunday, July 23, 2006 3:37 PM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Where to Enter Obits?


Richard,

I use the Obituary event and have changed the default Event Definition for
If Desc, Date and Place are empty to the following:

[HisHer] obituary was published in an unknown newspaper [Sources] [cr]
[cr][Notes]

Mike

Hi LUG'ies!

Just curious--where do most of you enter the actual text of an obituary?

Should the obituary text be entered under a person's Events, cite the
Source, then in the Source Details window, do most of you enter the obit
under the Text tab?

Further, I have this nice person in my family who sends me tons of
obituaries (what a blessing!)of family members, many of whom I am
unfamiliar. It's great to get the obits, but she doesn't include any of 
the

source infomation: eg. newspaper name, published date, page, column.

How would you enter this obituary information? Create an "Unknown" source,
or create an "Obituary-on-File" source, then enter the obit in the Source
Details window?

Just wanna know what most of you do in these situations.

Thanks for the input!

Richard Heckman
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Re: [LegacyUG] Composing Reports

[Sharon Perdue]

The pictures and captions are left justified, and every picture says 
underneath it >>[caption: John Doe].

In Report Options/Pictures
 unclick "include caption" and "include description"


We also have the problem of when a spouse is not known, Legacy reports
'John Doe married'.
 Click on the Marriage for the person and change the "Report Phrases" 
near the bottom to what you want it to say.  Example:  I have a woman who 
had a child and I do not know who the father was, and the child was put up 
for adoption.   I changed "married" to "had a relationship with a man 
(Unknown Name)".  For their marriage status, I have chosen "Unmarried", 
which also prints.  The report reads as: "Mary had a relationship with a man 
(Unknown Name).  Marriage Status: Unmarried.  They had one son: (No Given 
Name)."
 If you know the person was married but don't know the name of the 
person, you can change the wording to "married unknown", but what it is 
currently showing seems fine - "John Doe married".


Sharon



- Original Message - 
From: "Alastair Lack" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "Legacy Letters" 
Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2006 9:13 AM
Subject: [LegacyUG] Composing Reports



Hi,

I'm trying to publish my family history by sending a report to Lulu.com - 
an

excellent on-line print-on-demand service that produces one-off books
extremely well and very economically. However, I have some problems in
providing Lulu with the necessary pdf.

If I produce a report as an rtf from Legacy first, I have a lot of
manual labor. Using MS Word, The pictures and captions are left
justified, and every picture says underneath it [caption: John Doe].
This of course needs to be removed, which one can do using search and
replace, but nevertheless it's still a lot of work to correct. Or is
there a short cut with which I am unfamiliar?

We also have the problem of when a spouse is not known, Legacy reports
'John Doe married'. That may or may not be true, but it is rather
unhelpful on its own. Can one get it omitted? I've looked in the event
formatting, but so far unsuccessfully.

I would of course like to use the pdf produced by Legacy reports -
it's very nice. But when I upload it, I get a message that the fonts
are wrong - something that does not happen if I take the same rtf and
convert it using my own copy of Acrobat. So is there something
different about the way Legacy handles fonts when creating pdfs?

Any help most welcome

Warm regards :-)

Alastair Lack


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Re: [LegacyUG] To-Do-List

[Sharon Perdue]

What is your reminder date?  From Help "Legacy Home 
Tab":  You can select the to-do tasks that you would like to be reminded 
of.  These reminders are displayed on the day you specify in the to-do item 
itself and remain visible until you either reschedule or cancel the 
reminder.  
 
 

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
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  Zamora 
  To: Legacy Mailing List 
  
  Sent: Friday, August 11, 2006 5:08 
  AM
  Subject: [LegacyUG] To-Do-List
  
  I just added a to-do item to someone in my database and I put a reminder 
  date on it.  I looked on Legacy home page and it's not showing up.  
  It there some kind of problem with the To-Do-Items list on Legacy Home 
  Page.  My last to-do item is dated  11 Jun 2006.  I'm not 
  sure if I added anyone since then or not.  Suggestions?
   
  Renee Zamora
  www.harrisena.com 
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Re: [LegacyUG] Event Definition & Timeline Sharing

[Sharon Perdue]

I have added several, mostly so I could make the sentence structure fit the 
source.


For instance "Land" - this could be bought sold, inherited in addition to 
owned, so I added:

Land - bought
   [HeShe] bought land [Desc] [onDate] [inPlace].[Sources] [Notes]
Land - inherited
   [HeShe] inherited land [Desc] [onDate] [inPlace].[Sources] [Notes]
Land - sold
   [HeShe] sold land [Desc] [onDate] [inPlace].[Sources] [Notes]
sample:
Christian Hurlocker sold land to Daniel Walker consisting of a 4 acre corner 
lot located at the intersection of Fayetteville Road and Charleston Road on 
21 Jan 1832 in Mount Pleasant, Cabarrus County, North Carolina.  Charleston 
Road was the main supply route from Salisbury to the port of Charleston. It 
is now called North Main Street.


Another is "Military".  I have added:
Military - battle
[HeShe] was in a military war battle [Desc] [onDate] 
[inPlace].[Sources] [Notes]
  Desc could be "during the US Civil War" or "in which he was 
killed"

  sample:
John Howard was in a military battle which lasted From 19 Sep 1863 to 20 Sep 
1863 in Chickamauga, Walker County, Georgia.  This last major battle in the 
summer of 1863 happened along a small northern creek called Chicamauga. 
General Braxton Bragg's forces attacked the Union army headed by General 
Rosecrans on September 19, 1863. During the two days of bitter fighting, 
there were 35,000 casualties. The confederate troops routed the federal 
troops on the second day, causing President Lincoln to say that Rosecrans 
was "confused and stunned, like a duck hit on the head." Family history has 
it that John was shot in the chin during this battle.


Military - prisoner of war
Military - wounded
and
Military draft registration  (now that ancestry.com has these records 
easily accessible for the US).
I added most of these so I could show the different locations the person 
could be found, and so I could find all people who fought in the same 
battles, or were in the same prison camps, etc.


Sharon Perdue

- Original Message - 
From: "Keith Bage" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Saturday, August 12, 2006 5:15 AM
Subject: [LegacyUG] Event Definition & Timeline Sharing




Bert's e-mail regarding the [FromDate] code has reminded me about a 
question

I wanted to ask. I have seen some instances of TMG users sharing event
definitions and wondered, does anyone have any Legacy ones to share?

I assume that many people will have created new events and/or changed
existing ones. It would be great to see how people are putting these to 
use.

Anyone care to share?

Also it seemed to me that with the release of V6 we would start to see an
influx of Timelines created by each other, but this doesn't seem to be the
case and may be an under used function. Does anyone have any timelines to
share?

Personally I have created only one, which may be of limitied use to 
others,

it is a timeline of the town Middlesbrough in England. Middlesbrough is a
relatively young town which developed quickly due to heavy industry. Of
course if anyone has any relatives in this town it could be useful. Please
let me know if you'd like a copy of it.


Keith Bage
BAGE One Name Study (GOONS registered # 4451)
www.bage.org.uk



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Re: [LegacyUG] Census tracking

[Sharon Perdue]

yes
- Original Message - 
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2006 5:12 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Census tracking



My thanks for the list of the official  enumeration dates; I had not
previously had a complete list!  However, as  an aside here, when I record 
a census
enumeration for a person, I use the date  recorded by the enumerator when 
the

family was counted.

This is for a  simple reason.  Assume the official census date is June 1. 
A
family  might have been living in Town A on June 1, but could have moved 
to

Town  B by June 3 when they were enumerated.

Do others use this  practice?

Jon Raymond
St Paul Park, MN
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Re: [LegacyUG] free edition of Passenger Express

[Sharon Perdue]

There is a new button on the toolbar at the top of your screen - round, red, 
with PE in center and underneath it.  Click on it and you can download the 
software and then run it.



- Original Message - 
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To: 
Sent: Monday, August 28, 2006 10:50 AM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] free edition of Passenger Express



I would like to check this out also and can't find it.
Melody

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike
Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2006 9:53 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] free edition of Passenger Express

Bill,

Click on the new Create CD button and it will direct you to the proper 
site

for the download.

Mike

-

I have seen several references to a free edition of "Passenger
Express".I have been searching the Legacy website but am unable to
locate it. Could someone point me in the right direction?

Thanks much!

Bill Rhodes




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Re: [LegacyUG] Passage Express

[Sharon Perdue]

Do the people who get the CD or DVD have to download Legacy to enable them 
to read the "data"?  It appears to me that that is the case.


Sharon

- Original Message - 
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To: "LegacyUserGroup@mail.millenniacorp.com" 


Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2006 2:24 AM
Subject: [LegacyUG] Passage Express


Downloaded Basic version. Made a project and burned DVD-ROM. Plays back OK 
on computer CD/DVD reader.


It will open Legacy  file, which I could edit. Do not want recipient to 
do. Do I burn a DVD to avoid others editing???


Jack

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Re: [LegacyUG] Long names & short names

[Sharon Perdue]

Look at  View/Master Lists/Location
  select any location and click EDIT
  you will see a Location field and underneath it is a Short Location 
field.
The Short Location is identical to the Location unless YOU change it.  On 
screens and reports you can choose to use the Short Location.  You may want 
to do this since it is easier to read.

Example:
Mount Pleasant, Cabarrus County, North Carolina, USA
vs
Mt Pleasant, NC

Sharon Perdue


- Original Message - 
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To: "LegacyUserGroup" 
Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2006 11:52 AM
Subject: [LegacyUG] Long names & short names



List,

On several occasions I have seen references to "Long name locations and 
Short name locations". Could someone explain what these are and 
when/where/why/how they are used?


Thanks,

Bill Rhodes


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Re: [LegacyUG] Morris Town, NJ, USA

[Sharon Perdue]

For any US city/town, you can find the county using the 
following site.  Enter the name of the town/city and the state abbreviation 
and it will show you the name of the county.  You can then click on the 
county name and it takes you to the rootsweb website for the county.  

 
http://resources.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/townco.cgi
 
Sharon Perdue

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  SKL 1750 
  
  To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com 
  
  Sent: Friday, September 01, 2006 6:04 
  AM
  Subject: [LegacyUG] Morris Town, NJ, 
  USA
  
  
  Hi everyone,
  I am looking for the full Legacy location for a town called Morris 
  Town in New Jersey, USA. I have one entry in the database for this town, and 
  prefer not to download the entire US location file just for one entry (for 
  space, time and similar reason).
   
  Could any one of you please kindly help?
   
  Thank you!
  nina
  PS I'm researching Belgium, so I can help anyone please let me 
  know.
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Re: [LegacyUG] Quarter Dates

[Sharon Perdue]

Glenn - go to the bottom of this e-mail and follow the instructions to 
unsubscribe.  Then you will get no more e-mails from this list.  If you don't 
do that, you will continue to get them.


  - Original Message - 
  From: GLENN BLUEMEL 
  To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 11:14 AM
  Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Quarter Dates


  Quit sending any more Legacy E-Mail 
- Original Message - 
From: Alice L McVearry 
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com 
Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2007 4:57 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Quarter Dates


I just bought two from the GRO in England and paid a little under $14 for
each.  -- Alice


> [Original Message]
> From: ronald ferguson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Date: 3/11/2007 6:32:33 PM
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Quarter Dates
>
> Rich,
>
> Don't know the current shipped price in $US but currently £7.00UK
delivered 
> UK ie approx $3.70US
>
> Ron Ferguson

>
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> http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/Grimshaw/
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> >From: RICHARD SCHULTHIES <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Reply-To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
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> >Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Quarter Dates
> >Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 15:16:20 -0700 (PDT)
> >
> >Money$$ You have to pay for the actual date/record the
> >the 'British record office'.
> >When I was needing to buy certificates it was running
> >about $35.00US I don't know what it is now. Pay or use
> >the 'Q' system.
> >Rich




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Re: [LegacyUG] To Do items

[Sharon Perdue]

I have a record for each of my direct line surnames -
example:
given name field - Surname of
surname field -  RITCHIE
In this record, I have events such as meaning of the surname, origin of the 
surname, distrubution of the surname in various US censuses, all of the 
different spellings I have found, etc.  In the case of RITCHIE, there is a 
town currently named Richfield, but originally named Ritchie or Ritchie 
Fields, North Carolina - as a NOTES event, I have the town history from a 
county publication, which gives the original settlers named RITCHIE.  When I 
print reports, I use this "record" as an introduction.


You could use something like this for your surname to-do's.

Sharon Perdue

- Original Message - 
From: "Elsie Saar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Sunday, April 01, 2007 11:39 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] To Do items


Could you use the general To Do list found under View? You could list the 
item with the surname first: Ex: Smith - find 1850 Wyoming census for John 
Smith, etc. Then all the Smiths would be together. Just a suggestion.

Elsie

Genealogy research
American: Parks, Avann, Bulson, Soden, Menkens
German: Wienecke, Storz, Scharpf, Saar, Stelzer

- Original Message - 
From: "Tracy Skegg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "LegacyUserGroup" 
Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2007 11:37 PM
Subject: [LegacyUG] To Do items



Hi Listers
Can someone please let me know if there is a way to set up Surname
only to do items? Rather than link it to a particular person.

I've been using Access db tables for my research logs and I'd like to
change it.  I prefer To Do items over the Research Guidance area
because I can add my own repositaries for To Dos and the American
sites aren't particularly useful to me in Australia.
Cheers
Tracy


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Re: [LegacyUG] Re Family Group Record - Events

[Sharon Perdue]

Whenever I add or change notes in an event, I always hold down the delete 
key after the last character.  This will prevent the blank lines.  I have 
done this so many times that I don't even think about it anymore, it is just 
a habit.


Sharon Perdue
Manakin-Sabot Virginia


- Original Message - 
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To: "LegacyUserGroup" 
Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2007 4:37 AM
Subject: [LegacyUG] Re Family Group Record - Events



Hi Group

When I print a FGR report there appears to be two unnecessary blank lines
following each of the events - almost as if I have a couple of cursor
returns within each event!

I cannot see a way of removing them through the "report options". Is there 
a

way of removing these? I wouldn't worry normally but the family I am
creating a report for has 11 children with 2 to 3 events each!

Regards

John J Groome
Upper Hutt
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Re: [LegacyUG] digitized articles and books

[Sharon Perdue]

http://books.google.com/  you can enter a name of a book, or a surname that 
might be in a book.  Some hits will show you  there is a "snippet view" - this 
is a few pages or just the page on which your search criteria appears.  Others 
show "full view" where you can look at all pages in the book.


  - Original Message - 
  From: Patricia Hickin 
  To: LEGACY 
  Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 3:24 PM
  Subject: [LegacyUG] digitized articles and books


  (This is off-topic so you can email me directly if you prefer, but please do 
so at [EMAIL PROTECTED] instead of my usual email address as I get an 
incredible amount ofspam at my regular email address and weed out anybody not 
in my addressbook.)

  But what I'm wondering if there's anyway to find out whether a 
genealogical/historical, etc., book or article is digitized and online?  I know 
some good websites that have a lot of that kind of thing, but I don't know a 
way of searching to find out whether a particular book/article is available 
ANYwhere on the Internet?

  I don't know whether I'm explaining what I want very clearly or not!

  But thanks for any help!

  Pat




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Re: [LegacyUG] New name to thread! - learning how to create a web site for our data

[Sharon Perdue]

yes there will be a demand for it

- Original Message - 
From: "ronald ferguson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2007 5:58 PM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] New name to thread! - learning how to create a web 
site for our data





Myrna,

That is an interesting suggestion. Two thoughts spring ti mind:

(1) I could put an illustrated blog on my Website on getting started with 
the Legacy Create Web Pages function.


(2) Your suggestion about a message board. Again I could probably put this 
on my site as well (although I'll need to check with my server what coding 
they allow as it's a free site)


WRT the first I can probably publish something basic when I update my site 
at the end of the month, but not the second as I am away for most of next 
week doing some research on Parish Registers.


Having said that, maybe a better way would be to open a Yahoo Group 
specifically concerned with answering questions relating to Legacy Web 
Pages. Would there be a demand for this? If so I would be happy to set one 
up by the end of the month.


Ron Ferguson



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To: 
Subject: [LegacyUG] New name to thread! - learning how to create a web 
site for our data

Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2007 15:20:26 -0500

Hello Ron,
Maybe you could set up a group msg board where we could "pick
your brain." I would be very interested in learning how to create
a website but just do not have enough nerve to try it out. Seems
like there are plenty of us on this users group that are in that
situation. Since we are using Legacy for our data maybe the staff
could set up a separate site for just this type of thing. If so,
please put me down as numero uno on the list!
Thanks,
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Re: [LegacyUG] 3 Legacy problems

[Sharon Perdue]

Plus, if you keep the year in the source, you can see in which censuses the 
person appeared.


Sharon Perdue

- Original Message - 
From: "Roxanne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2007 2:06 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] 3 Legacy problems



Dave, you know I just might go back to including the
year in my source(s), as yours was an angle of
reasoning  I had not considered. AThanks!

Roxanne Baird

--- Dave Naylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



I prefer to keep the year as part of the Master
Source and so have
Master Sources such as "Census - USA 1900 Federal"
and then have the
state, etc. as the Detail.

The reason for me doing it this way is that a Show
List for a Master
Source can then identify which individuals have been
found for a
particular census year.  Then a further search for
individuals living
during that year (and country) can identify those
that still need to
be found in each census.

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Re: [LegacyUG] Searching IGI

[Sharon Perdue]

Melanie said:  "I realize you can click on the Update Legacy Individual button, 
and if you have clicked "Assign sources when saving individuals," the IGI will 
appear as a source and the new info will be transferred to your legacy file."

How do you update Legacy with IGI info automatically?  I can find nothing to 
"click"

Sharon - Original Message - 
  From: Melanie Tucker 
  To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2007 8:07 AM
  Subject: [LegacyUG] Searching IGI


  Yesterday I began using the search IGI feature.  I realize you can click on 
the Update Legacy Individual button, and if you have clicked "Assign sources 
when saving individuals," the IGI will appear as a source and the new info will 
be transferred to your legacy file.  Is there any way to automatically source 
the text/detail of the IGI record?  Sometimes it's helpful to source all of 
that information, especially when it is an extracted record so that you can go 
back later to verify.  If not, has this been suggested to the programmers?  I 
know you can click on the @ button to see the record, but then you'd have to 
type out all the source detail. 

  I also noticed that the IGI search is not finding most things I search, even 
when I know a correct record is on the IGI because I've previously found 
records by searching manually on the familysearch site.  I always make sure I 
have set options that allow for spelling variations and a range of years.  One 
example that it didn't find was when I had searched under Clark S. Burgett, and 
the name on the IGI was Clark Stephen Burgette.  Shouldn't Legacy be able to 
recognize variations like this as a possible match?  

  When I had PAF I used PAF Insight, which offered some really excellent 
features and searched more quickly than the Legacy IGI search.  I hope there 
are plans for some enhancements in the future--unless I'm missing some step 
here. 

  Thanks in advance,

  Melanie


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Re: [LegacyUG] Master Source Data Entry Consistency

[Sharon Perdue]

Set up census Master Source - "Census 1790" - and get it how you want it to 
look/read on EACH tab.  TO add an 1800 census, you open  "Census 1790" and 
make appropriate changes for it to be 1800, then when you click save, a pop 
up box shows with 2 options - CHOOSE OPTION 2.  You now have a 1790 and an 
1800 census master source.


I do this all the time to make same type sources consistent.  The important 
thing to remember is to choose option 2.


Below is how I have my 1800 census master source set up.  I have a census 
event for each person, with the entire "family" info in the notes field on 
the record for the head of household.  The other people listed only have 
their specific info in the notes portion of the same event, but the rest of 
the event data is the same. I type the head of household first, then save it 
and copy it into the record for each person named, and delete all of the 
info for everyone except that person.


I used to have a master source for each county within each state, but 
figured all of the info was in the event, so I now only keep a master source 
for each year.



Source info Tab:
Source List Name  Census 1800
Type Census/Tax
Author
Title  United Stated Federal Population 
Census

Publication Facts   1800

Comments Tab:
The 1800 census was to begin August 4 1800 and to be completed within 9 
months. Most entries are arranged in the order of visitation but some were 
rearranged alphabetically. It called for the name of the county, parish, 
township, town, or city where the family resides; the name of the head of 
the family; a statement for each family of the number of free White males 
and females under 10 years of age, of 10 and under 16, of 16 and under 26, 
of 26 and under 45, and 45 years and older; the number of all other free 
persons (except Indians not taxed); and the number of slaves.


Repository Tab:

Location   National Archives And Records Administration  ...



Sharon


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To: 
Sent: Monday, June 25, 2007 8:21 PM
Subject: [LegacyUG] Master Source Data Entry Consistency



I want to ensure my Master Sources are formatted consistently. For
example I want my census entries to have the source list name, author,
title to be the same format. Is there a way to set up a template for
this. Sort of like Endnotes for Legacy.  Otherwise I find myself
opening one master source and then copying the source list name and
then pasting it and modifying it in the new source.  I end up doing a
lot of back and forth work. Or am I missing something obvious?


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Re: [LegacyUG] Documentation personal family records

[Sharon Perdue]

I have notes I found in a book that belonged to my great grandmother.  Here 
is how I sourced it:


Title:  Notes - handwritten
Comments:  Found in a book that belonged to Ollie BEAN WISECARVER, yellowed 
paper, showing death dates of her father's siblings and his parents and her 
father. These are not in any order that I can determine. Copied onto this 
same paper is an autobiography written by Garrett Bean. Presumably, these 
pages were written by Ollie or her mother, but I have no way of knowing for 
sure.


- Original Message - 
From: "Helen Barton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Monday, July 30, 2007 4:12 PM
Subject: [LegacyUG] Documentation personal family records



Hi,
I'm brand new at this.  I would like to find out if any one knows how to
properly document those important scraps of paper from family genealogies
that aren't e-mails or letters and are just as important to keep and
document.  I've checked Elizabeth Shown Mills book "Evidence" with no
success. In many cases I suspect, and don't always know, who has written
down the family genealogical information.  Usually there is no date or
signed name.  Any suggestions for me?  Thanks for your help.
Helen Barton




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Re: [LegacyUG] County Didn't Exist Then

[Sharon Perdue]

Person was born in 1850 at the indicated location in Virginia, which in June 
1863 became West Virginia.

Capon Springs, Hampshire County, Virginia (West Virginia/Jun 1863), USA

Person resided in 1841 at the indicated location in Lincoln County, which 
became Catawba County in 1842.

Leepers Creek, Lincoln County (Catawba County 1842), North Carolina, USA


Is anyone putting a different country (CSA?) than USA for states that 
seceded during the Civil War?
ex: born 25 Sep 1861   Mount Pleasant, Cabarrus County, North Carolina, CSA 
(USA/Jul 1868)



- Original Message - 
From: "Gail Nestor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2007 8:29 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] County Didn't Exist Then



I agree that there is a benefit in knowing the original jurisdiction
for research purposes and in knowing the current (or at least a later)
jurisdiction for plotting and viewing on a map.

In Legacy, I list each location by its name at the time a specific
event occurred.  If a person, for example, was born 15 Nov 1755 in
"Granville County, North Carolina Province" and that county later had
changes which can reliably be traced forward, I list the location as:
, Granville (later Bute now Warren) County, North Carolina Province,
Colonial America.

This preserves the 4-digit placeholders, lets the reader know there
were boundary changes, and gives an accurate (if wordy) location
description at the time of the event.  I would not list it this way in
a book (way too unwieldy), but I publish (for now) solely to the web.

I then create an event called "County Formation" to show the boundary
changed.  For example, I show in 1764 "Granville County became Bute
County."  In 1776, I show a Move "from Bute County to Surry County"
and note "In 1779, Bute was dissolved and was replaced by Warren and
Franklin Counties."  Finally, in 1777 I note "Wilkes County was formed
out of Surry County."  This allows the reader to see exactly what
happened and which jurisdictions should be searched for evidence at
what time.

As a final touch, my web site software, TNG (The Next Generation of
Genealogy Sitebuilding) has given me the ability to create Google Maps
for all my imported locations.  Now, when I see:
, Granville (later Bute now Warren) County, North Carolina Province,
Colonial America,
I can map this location to current day Warren County, NC and know
fairly closely where my ancestor was.

Most of the county changes were not nearly as complex as the example
above, but if there is a smaller county carved out of a bigger one,
and I know that my ancestor was in the area of the bigger county that
later became a specific smaller county, I can list the location as:
, Big (later Small) County, Georgia, USA
and that will help me put my map pin in the right place.  Plus, by
creating an event to show the county change, I let the reader know
that the ancestor has not moved an inch, even though they were listed
in a different county.

This is still a bit clumsy and causes Legacy to tell me the county
never existed, but it has worked well for me in publishing to the web
and in keeping my geography straight.  For a list of all my locations,
please see: http://www.roots2buds.net/places.php.  You'll see the
Colonial America locations listed separately from "USA" locations.
Click on a specific person to see how the map pins work.  It's so
cool!

Gail Rich Nestor
Smyrna, GA
www.roots2buds.net


On 8/7/07, Kirsten Bowman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Bill:

If you search at RootsWeb WorldConnect for any of the Founding Fathers
you'll see many examples of how others do it.  (Try Thomas Jefferson with
wife Martha Wayles.)  Personally I think it looks a little silly to list
someone born in the 1600's with a USA birthplace and/or a county that 
didn't
exist.  Ani-Map is a big help in identifying the proper place names but 
the

maps don't begin until 1643.  Another good source is Wikipedia.

Kirsten

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of William
Range
Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2007 1:04 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] County Didn't Exist Then


I agree, but I have never seen where someone uses the colonial place 
naming.
All the place naming that I have seen for colonial times use town, 
county,

state, USA.
Can someone show me a website that use the colonial names for places?

Bill Range




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Re: [LegacyUG] Searching surname, etc., in Events, Notes

[Sharon Perdue]

If you use search and replace, I know of no way to know what record you have 
found.  Can anyone tell me if there is a way to identify the record found in 
the search?  I am trying to clean up some sources and am using search and 
replace (with no replacing) to look for words in the citation-details.  I 
can see how many records, but don't know what records they are.



- Original Message - 
From: "Dave Naylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2007 5:50 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Searching surname, etc., in Events, Notes



On 11 Aug 2007  Pat H wrote:


Is there any way to search for a proper name/noun in Events &/or notes.
 If so, how.  I looked in Help but it didn't help me at all.


Legacy has the feature you need but doesn't have it where users would
look for it!  You need to use Search & Replace.  Just don't make a
"replacement".

For years now I've requested Millennia to add a menu item for just
the "Search" part of Search & Replace, but it never appears (or I
can't find it!)

Cheers, -- Dave N.
--
 David Naylor, Halton Hills, Ontario, Canada.
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[LegacyUG] find records with a specific source AND a specific word(s) in the comments section

[Sharon Perdue]

What I am trying to find are specific words in the "comments" tab of the 
source - for instance "family tree by Robert Smith".


I know my main source is "Tree", so I did the following steps:
view
master lists
source
Find the "Tree" source
show list
tag everyone in the list with tag 9
got out of that
search function - look for tag 9's
this shows my 394 people with "Tree" as the source
BUT
what I want to do now is find ONLY those with "family tree by Robert Smith" 
in the Comments tab


Can this be done? 





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Re: [LegacyUG] find records with a specific source AND a specific word(s) in the comments section

[Sharon Perdue]

Thank you - this is EXACTLY what I needed.  I tagged the one source, and 
selected to print the comments.  It's 29 pages, but I can easily do a find 
and skip through the whole thing.
I have been using Legacy for years, and proably only used this report once 
or twice.  Amazing what you don't remember!!  Thanks again.


- Original Message - 
From: "Susan Daily" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2007 8:04 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] find records with a specific source AND a specific 
word(s) in the comments section




You could do a source report, export it to a text file and then search
that file for the words you are looking for.

Susan

On 8/12/07, Sharon Perdue <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

What I am trying to find are specific words in the "comments" tab of the
source - for instance "family tree by Robert Smith".

I know my main source is "Tree", so I did the following steps:
view
master lists
source
Find the "Tree" source
show list
tag everyone in the list with tag 9
got out of that
search function - look for tag 9's
this shows my 394 people with "Tree" as the source
BUT
what I want to do now is find ONLY those with "family tree by Robert 
Smith"

in the Comments tab

Can this be done?




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Re: [LegacyUG] About dates

[Sharon Perdue]

Example of sources for Birth Date/location
I use Master Sources with estimate wording such as:
MASTER SOURCE:
SOURCE LIST NAME
Births - Estimate - Marriage Courthouse Record
TYPE
Estimate/Assumption
TITLE
Calculation=subtract age at marriage from date of marriage

I would use this one (above) for my "guess" as to the birth date - in the 
Source Detail/Detail Information I would put: estimated year.


Then I would have a second Master Source for the Courthouse Marriage Record, 
where in the Source Detail/Detail Information I would put: city/county/state


Example of sources for name:
Many times I have a source (1) for a person's name that shows first, middle 
initial and last name, with another source (2) having the full name.   For 
source 1, in the Source Detail/Detail Information I would put: first, middle 
initial, last.   For source 2, in the Source Detail/Detail Information I 
would put: full name.


- Original Message - 
From: "Pat H" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2007 3:48 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] About dates


What do you do about sourcing info-- let's say you have a source for the 
location but not for the date.  How do you indicate it's YOUR guesstimate 
and that the source is silent on the matter  (since Legacy groups date & 
location together as far as sources go for births, deaths, etc)?



From: "Mitch Mackrory" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


For example, once I have a child (any child) in a family, I assume it
is the eldest child and that the parents were likely married a year
prior to this.  Let's say the child was born in 1856.  I set the date
for the marriage as BEF 1855.  I now have some information to do
further work on.  I would record this with a Surety Level of 1
(marginal evidence).  Let's assume that this helps me find the family
and I now figure out that there were two older children born in 1852
and 1855.  I would now change the marriage date to BEF 1851 and I may
change my Surety Level to 2 (probable conclusion) if I am happy this
is the whole family.  If this helps me narrow down when to look for
the marriage record, this is useful.  Let's say I now find the index
record of the marriage record.  I'll use UK terminology since that is
what I work on.  I find an index record dated in the second quarter of
1850 and it looks good.  I'll record this index info in the marriage
and likely change my marriage date to Jun Q 1850; possibly even
updating my Surety Level to 3 (Almost Certain Conclusion).  When I get
a copy of the certificate, let's say there are witnesses that confirm
this is the right marriage.  At that stage my marriage date changes to
14 Apr 1850 and my Surety Level might even go to 4 (Convincing
Evidence).

If I came across other evidence I may change my date to AFT or ABT,
but I always try to estimate a reasonable date as soon as I can and
then classify that assessment using the Surety Level system in Legacy.

Note that if my marriage date is BEF 1851 as an example, I will likely
start searching the marriage records from 1853 and work backwards for
20 plus years.

Also, once I have the marriage date fixed I move on to census records
(for example) to confirm that the decisions I have made are correct.

I hope that helps, Mitch Mackrory
Colorado, USA

On 8/12/07, Valeris Garton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

I have many people in my database that I do not know when they were born
nor when they died  but have an idea as to when they were around e.g. in
a directory, witness to a marriage or last child born etc.

How does everyone handle this problem.

If I look at the index I could have 7 John CULLODENS so it is helpful to
know that he was for example born before birth of first child and/or
that he died after birth of a child.

I tried putting all the different events of John CULLODDEN as events in
a family name but that did not work because when it was printed all
these events belonged to the same person so poor John CULLODEN died 5
times etc.

I hope some one an understand what I am trying to say.

Regards from Valerie in sunny Sydney.
Researching: BEDDY, CULLODEN, DYAS and ROWAN in Dublin, Wicklow &
Wexford - please ???




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Re: [LegacyUG] Cemetary and Headstone data in Legacy

[Sharon Perdue]

I have a cemetery event and attach the tombstone photo to it.  In the notes 
section of this event, I describe the marker (upright double marker; in ground 
metal marker; military marker, etc) and then put  Inscription: ...

   
  Does anyone maintain records about the cemetaries, churchs, and headstones 
important to their family within Legacy?  If so, how do you to this and how do 
you link individuals?

  thank you
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Re: [LegacyUG] County without city

[Sharon Perdue]

I think Co. is the standard abbreviation for county.  If you look at county 
government 
e-mail addresses and websites, they use co.
www.co.goochland.va.us is the website for Goochland County, Virginia government.

Cty. could be interpreted as city.  In Virginia, the large cities are separate 
from any county - an entity in themselves.  For example, there is a Richmond 
County in Virginia - not near the city of Richmond - AND people living in the 
surrounding counties to the city of Richmond have Richmond, Virginia addresses, 
but they are in a county!  Richmond, Henrico County, Virginia, USA; Richmond, 
Chesterfield County, Virginia, USA; Richmond, Goochland County, Virginia, USA; 
Richmond, Hanover County, Virginia, USA - and probably a couple of others!  I 
use Richmond, Richmond (city), Virginia, USA for locations in the city.


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Re: [LegacyUG] Favorite Legacy Tip

[Sharon Perdue]

Renee - I have know about the surname, given name forever BUT NEVER knew about 
your "rotating" tip.  The is so cool - thanks!!
  - Original Message - 
  From: Renee Zamora 
  To: Legacy Mailing List 
  Sent: Friday, August 17, 2007 7:00 PM
  Subject: [LegacyUG] Favorite Legacy Tip


  I was surprised when I read that people didn't know about typing the surname, 
given name in the index to go quickly to that name.  It gave me the idea to 
send everyone in the group my favorite legacy tip.

  In the family view
  If you have the husband or wife highlighted and then click in the middle 
between them on the background it will rotate through the highlighted person's 
siblings. If you click on the background to left of the husband or right of the 
wife, depending on  who is highlighted it will rotate through their other 
spouses.  If you click on the background next to the highlighted person's 
parents it will rotate through any additional parents they might have. 

  I can't think of any more right now but I know I do a lot of right clicking 
on the screens to see what they will do. If you have a favorite tip why don't 
you share it with the rest of the group.

  Renee Zamora
  www.harrisena.com


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Re: [LegacyUG] To be a Lumper or a Splitter

[Sharon Perdue]

Anne Eccles commented:
Benefits to being a splitter would be easier to see who is attached to 
each

master source.


You can get a "source citation" report showing records attached to a master 
source, and it can also show the specific fields using the source.


Another lumper,
Sharon

- Original Message - 
From: "The Eccles Family" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Saturday, August 18, 2007 4:54 AM
Subject: [LegacyUG] To be a Lumper or a Splitter



Hi Everyone,
All this discussion has inspired me to take a look at my own sources - not
such a pretty site.
Up until now I have be a lumper eg one master source for New South Wales
Birth certificates with each certificate being given it's own File Id and
details given in the source detail window.
The benefit for being a lumper is less master sources.

Benefits to being a splitter would be easier to see who is attached to 
each

master source.
What would others recommend?
Regards
Anne Eccles
Australia





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Re: [LegacyUG] Family Name History

[Sharon Perdue]

Aha - you must be one of the grumpy people.

Her question does have to do with the subject line.  See Karl Plenge and 
June McDonaldl e-mails -  they use the suffix field for "EOB' for end of 
branch, "NO" for not ours, etc.


- Original Message - 
From: "Mike Fry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2007 8:27 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Family Name History



Tracy Skegg wrote:

For those who use the suffix box for acronyms - does it cause
confusion when you print out reports or charts?


Tracy,
What on earth has this to do with the subject that Jenny and I were 
talking about?


Don't *reply* or *follow-up* to a subject with another subject that should 
start a new thread. You should *write a NEW* message when the subject is 
entirely different.


--
Regards,
Mike Fry
Johannesburg.


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Re: [LegacyUG] Estimated Locations

[Sharon Perdue]

I use:
Concord (probably), Cabarrus County, North Carolina, USA
for the short location I put
   probably Concord, NC
, Cabarrus County (probably), North Carolina, USA
, , North Carolina (probably), USA

These sort right next to the actual location.  Only problem I have with it 
this way, is when I want to enter a location of   , Cabarrus County, North 
Carolina, USA, as I am typing, the (probably) one comes up first - so I have 
to be careful to NOT let the entry remain that way.



- Original Message - 
From: "Kirsten Bowman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "LegacyUserGroup" 
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 1:47 PM
Subject: [LegacyUG] Estimated Locations


I have a number of locations which are likely BMD places, but not proven. 
I
originally used angle brackets around these "iffy" places, but that 
doesn't

work for several reasons.  Then I switched to "probably" as in "probably
Aurora, Kane, Illinois."  Now my list of "probably" locations is getting 
out

of hand and I'd especially like them to sort near proven locations of the
same name.  Does anyone have a good method for handling probable locations
that will give a better sorting result?  Perhaps putting a question mark
after the probable city or county?  How do others do it?

Kirsten




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[LegacyUG] color scheme

[Sharon Perdue]

Legacy Help says "
Legacy comes with several color schemes.  The Select a Color Scheme window 
displays these schemes as well as any others that you have created and 
saved."






How do I fine this "Select a Color Scheme window"?



Sharon



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Re: [LegacyUG] color scheme

[Sharon Perdue]

I found it under Customize > Colors > Load


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From: "Sharon Perdue" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "Legacy Mail" 
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2007 11:57 AM
Subject: [LegacyUG] color scheme



Legacy Help says "
Legacy comes with several color schemes.  The Select a Color Scheme window 
displays these schemes as well as any others that you have created and 
saved."






How do I fine this "Select a Color Scheme window"?



Sharon



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Re: [LegacyUG] Elizabeth Shown Mills - Splitter or Lumper?

[Sharon Perdue]

I think the lumping can be defined several different ways.

I am a LUMPER.
I use Census-1930 as a master source, not identifying the county, state, 
detail info.  This is because I have a census event attached to the PERSON 
that contains ALL of the information she is putting in the source.  I do it 
my way because I personally do NOT want to have to keep flipping back to the 
sources to see what the Census data looked like, then back to the person - 
and this is applicable while I am using Legacy on the computer as well as 
reports I may print out.  It's probably not the right way to do it, but it 
is a LOT easier.


Seems to me that SPLITTERS have to be flippers, too. ;-)



- Original Message - 
From: "Ralf X" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Saturday, September 01, 2007 9:32 PM
Subject: [LegacyUG] Elizabeth Shown Mills - Splitter or Lumper?



Am I correct in assuming that since Elizabeth Shown
Mills includes the date a web page was accessed in the
PUBLICATION FACTS, she leans towards "splitting?
(meaning you can't reuse the Master Source later on)

EXAMPLE:(http://www.bobswebpage.com/cemetery :
accessed 01 September 2007), entry for John Doe,
section 1, plot 2, grave 3


But if she had included the accessed date in the
SOURCE DETAIL instead, this would have been "lumping"?
(meaning you can reuse the Master Source later on).

EXAMPLE:(http://www.bobswebpage.com/cemeterydatabase),
accessed 01 September 2007, entry for John Doe,
section 1, plot 2, grave 3

I hope I'm making sense. Being relatively new to
sourcing (okay bad me) I'm finding sourcing in this
POST "Evidence Explained" and PRE Legacy 7.0 world a
tad complicated.




Thanks,

Ralf


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Re: [LegacyUG] Lists in Legacy

[Sharon Perdue]

Every single thing on the screen for each tab of the source has to be 
idenitcal for the "combine duplicates" to work.


- Original Message - 
From: "Elizabeth Cunningham" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Friday, September 07, 2007 9:27 PM
Subject: [LegacyUG] Lists in Legacy


I have been trying to clean up discrepancies and duplications in my Master 
Lists.


When I find two addresses that are spelled slightly differently, and edit 
them so they are spelled the same, the addresses merge and I have one 
address.  When I do that with Source Lists, (like birth announcements for 
two children in the same family, and the Source is now titled the same) 
the sources do not merge.  Why is that?
If I am going to go lump things together, does this mean I need to go to 
every person connected to a source and fix them all individually?


Any information would be appreciated.

  Elizabeth C



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Re: [LegacyUG] Sourcing Question

[Sharon Perdue]

AND  Heritage Quest would be the repository.

- Original Message - 
From: "Dawn Crowley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Saturday, September 08, 2007 2:06 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Sourcing Question


Heritage Quest is the website visited, not the source.  Heritage Quest 
posts existing data, such as censuses and books.  Those are the source.  


Dawn

marilyn E B wrote:


I need to know how to include the proper information for an article I
found on Heritage
Quest concerning a relative.

I have saved the title page but how do I save the information for
Heritage Quest. First time trying to save an item from HQ.

I do have the Quick Sheet by Elizabeth Mills. Should I just refer to
her suggestions for how to do this?

Marilyn


 






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Re: [LegacyUG] Alternate Names in Index?

[Sharon Perdue]

You ALSO have to check, Alternate given and surnames under Report Options 
Include tab - third block down on left.

- Original Message - 
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  To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com 
  Sent: Monday, September 10, 2007 11:26 PM
  Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Alternate Names in Index?


  This still isn't working.  [And I don't see an option in AOL for sending 
email in plain text.]

  I've selected the following menu choices and still do not get the alternate 
names to appear in the index.  They do appear in the report.  

  Here's my sequence of selections in the drop-down boxes:  

  Reports - Books/other - Descendants - Options - Index Options - Include name 
index and include  alternate names.  I checked these last two items, so why do 
I still not see alternate names in the index!?

  Sign me PERPLEXED IN ATLANTA




  In a message dated 9/5/2007 5:59:17 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL 
PROTECTED] writes:
Publishing Center > Descendant Book Report > Additional > Index Options > 
Include a name index > Include alternate names.

I checked the above option, but the alternate names don't appear anywhere 
in the index.  Am I misunderstanding what this feature is? 






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Re: [LegacyUG] Alternate Names in Index?

[Sharon Perdue]

It works fine for me
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  Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 10:00 PM
  Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Alternate Names in Index?


  I did have "Alternate given and surnames' checked on the "Include" tab on the 
"Options for Descendant Books" screen.  And it still doesn't work.  

  Is everyone looking at the same report?  

  Or did I find a bug in the program for Descendant Book reports?  







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[LegacyUG] version 7 compatible with Mac??

[Sharon Perdue]

Does anyone know if the new version of Legacy will be compatible with a Mac 
machine?  Have a friend who wants to change her software.


Sharon Perdue 





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Re: [LegacyUG] version 7 compatible with Mac??

[Sharon Perdue]

thanks - I looked but did not see this.
  - Original Message - 
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2007 1:51 PM
  Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] version 7 compatible with Mac??



  This is taken from the Legacy websit - FAQs:
  Is there a version of Legacy for MAC?

  Currently there is no version of Legacy for the MAC. This is something we may 
consider for the future. In the meantime, Legacy can run on a MAC that has 
RealPC, SoftWindows, Virtual PC or similar Windows emulator installed.

  Bob
  ~MN~
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> Does anyone know if the new version of Legacy will be compatible with a 
Mac 
> machine? Have a friend who wants to change her software. 
> 
> Sharon Perdue 
> 
> 
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