Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy 7 - Maiden Names and Married Names

2008-06-08 Thread Tracy Skegg
Thanks Ron, I feel a little better about it now. I'll leave the AKAs
in, but still use the global change for married names.

I don't mind having extra AKAs in my file, although I do use an event
for spelling errors in names from research provided by family where
they were guessing at spelling etc.
Cheers
Tracy



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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy 7 - Maiden Names and Married Names

2008-06-07 Thread Cathy

OK,
It's not working for newly added relationships but is still working 
for those already entered.


Have you reported it as a bug?

Cathy

At 01:23 AM 7/06/2008, you wrote:

Cathy,

You can set the wording in options customise as you say - but it has not
effect on Family View, you still get Husband and Wife

Jack





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RE: [Bulk] Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy 7 - Maiden Names and Married Names

2008-06-07 Thread ronald ferguson

Jack,

It took me a while to work this one out, partly because I could not be sure 
whether entries I had already made were affecting the results of changing the 
Default in Customise. They do! But it was only when I started to change the 
married status of couples that I saw what you are getting at.

I now agree that in Family View the Husband/Wife labels do not change to (in my 
case) Partner/Partner when the "this couple did not marry" flag is turned on 
and off.

Yup, it's a bug!


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> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Subject: RE: [Bulk] Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy 7 - Maiden Names and Married Names
> Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2008 21:35:52 +0100
>
> Ron
>
> Although it might be possible to alter each marriage individually, there is
> also an option to set the global wording in Options/Customise/View - but it
> seems to have no effect on Family View! Only for reports
>
> Jack
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ronald
> ferguson
> Sent: 04 June 2008 23:48
> To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com
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>
>
> Jack,
>
> On the Marriage Screen there is a new tab at the top called "Wording
> Options" where you can insert what you wish.
>
>
> Ron Ferguson
>
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>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
>> Subject: RE: [Bulk] Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy 7 - Maiden Names and Married
> Names
>> Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2008 16:11:52 +0100
>>
>> So why do my unmarrieds, with both status as unmarried and the checkbox
>> ticked, still show up as Husband and Wife on the Family View?
>>
>> Jack
>>
>> -Original Message-
>>
>> You will see that the marriage wording fields are more flexible. Just
>> be aware that L7 determines if a couple is married or not by the
>> "This couple did not marry" checkbox, not the marriage status.
>>
>>
>
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RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy 7 - Maiden Names and Married Names

2008-06-07 Thread ronald ferguson

Bill,

Something similar has been suggested but is definitely something which I would 
not want. If it is ever done then I hope it will be optional.


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> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy 7 - Maiden Names and Married Names
> Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2008 09:01:31 -0400
>
> To the list:
>
> Was an option ever considered for married name changes to place the maiden
> names in parentheses and append the husband's surname, i.e. Jane Doe married
> John Smith and her married name changed to Jane (Doe) Smith?
>
>
> Bill
>
> Bill Bienia, PLCGS
> www.CobblestoneLegacies.com
>
> Robert57P via Gmail wrote:
>
> Actually there are now 3 AKAs:
> * The "true" AKAs that we put under the AKA button (actually the "Alternate
> Names" button)
> * The Marriage - maiden name changed to male's last name that the system
> generates
> * The nick-name in quotes in the GIVEN field (ie: William Blake "Bill"
> Patton)
>
> Bob
>
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RE: [Bulk] Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy 7 - Maiden Names and Married Names

2008-06-07 Thread Jack Earnshaw
Ron

Although it might be possible to alter each marriage individually, there is
also an option to set the global wording in Options/Customise/View - but it
seems to have no effect on Family View! Only for reports

Jack


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Jack,

On the Marriage Screen there is a new tab at the top called "Wording
Options" where you can insert what you wish.


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> Subject: RE: [Bulk] Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy 7 - Maiden Names and Married
Names
> Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2008 16:11:52 +0100
>
> So why do my unmarrieds, with both status as unmarried and the checkbox
> ticked, still show up as Husband and Wife on the Family View?
>
> Jack
>
> -Original Message-
>
> You will see that the marriage wording fields are more flexible. Just
> be aware that L7 determines if a couple is married or not by the
> "This couple did not marry" checkbox, not the marriage status.
>
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RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy 7 - Maiden Names and Married Names

2008-06-07 Thread ronald ferguson

Tracy,

No. I also have married names in the old AKA list and intend to continue my 
practice of including them there. Apart from not wishing to spend the time 
deleting them there is a serious reason for this.

The Marriage Names will not appear in pretty well any of the reports (I exclude 
Name Reports and similar) and I do wish to have Jane Smith is also known as 
Jane Jones in my webpages/reports.

Should I wish I can also Search using the AKA Surnames and combine this with 
other searches.


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> Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2008 22:39:23 +1000
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy 7 - Maiden Names and Married Names
>
> I've added AKAs in v6 for married names. If I use v7 global change to
> married name (because I like the look of the name index format for
> married names), do I then have to go into my file and delete all the
> AKAs for married names I added in previous versions? (thousands
> unfortunately)
>
> Cheers
> Tracy
>

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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy 7 - Maiden Names and Married Names

2008-06-06 Thread Cathy

Hi Tracy,

How you handle all the married AKAs you've entered it up to you - but 
it depends a bit on whether you've also used AKA for real AKAs or 
just married names.
If not, just turn off including AKAs in reports and on name list etc 
and they'll not bother you and you can delete them at your leisure.


If you can use Access, you could remove them from the relevant table. 
If not, the quickest way is from a search list with the edit tab to the front.


Search on Alt. Surnamenot equal to[leave blank]


Cathy

At 08:39 PM 5/06/2008, you wrote:

I've added AKAs in v6 for married names.  If I use v7 global change to
married name (because I like the look of the name index format for
married names), do I then have to go into my file and delete all the
AKAs for married names I added in previous versions? (thousands
unfortunately)

Cheers
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RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy 7 - Maiden Names and Married Names

2008-06-06 Thread Larry Wilson
If not, it should have. 
 
---Original Message--- 
 
From: Bill Bienia 
Date: 6/5/2008 10:55:15 PM 
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.Com 
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy 7 - Maiden Names and Married Names 
 
To the list: 
 
Was an option ever considered for married name changes to place the maiden 
Names in parentheses and append the husband's surname, I.e. Jane Doe married

John Smith and her married name changed to Jane (Doe) Smith? 
 
 
Bill 
 
Bill Bienia, PLCGS 
WWW.CobblestoneLegacies.Com 
 
Robert57P via Gmail wrote: 
 
Actually there are now 3 AKAs: 
* The "true" AKAs that we put under the AKA button (actually the "Alternate 
Names" button) 
* The Marriage - maiden name changed to male's last name that the system 
Generates 
* The nick-name in quotes in the GIVEN field (I.e.: William Blake "Bill" 
Patton) 
 
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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy 7 - Maiden Names and Married Names

2008-06-06 Thread Jack Earnshaw
Cathy,

You can set the wording in options customise as you say - but it has not
effect on Family View, you still get Husband and Wife

Jack

-Original Message-
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Sent: 05 June 2008 10:47
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: RE: [Bulk] Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy 7 - Maiden Names and Married Names

Jack there are two places where the wording can be changed.

One is now in Options > Customise - view tab - set default marriage 
wording - this has been expanded beyond the Legacy 6 options.

The second is in the Marriage Information Screen - Wording Options tab.

Cathy

At 11:11 PM 4/06/2008, you wrote:
>So why do my unmarrieds, with both status as unmarried and the checkbox
>ticked, still show up as Husband and Wife on the Family View?
>
>Jack
>
>-Original Message-
>
>You will see that the marriage wording fields are more flexible. Just
>be aware that L7 determines if a couple is married or not by the
>"This couple did not marry" checkbox, not the marriage status.




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RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy 7 - Maiden Names and Married Names

2008-06-06 Thread John B. Lisle

Bill,

What you are asking is more going to get handled with custom 
sentences for reports and events.


However, an additional married name rule has been requested that 
would be a variation of the current second married name rule that 
would include, for wives, her birth name after her given names; eg,


Wife Married name : [HerGivenNames] [HerSurname]/[HisSurname]/

eg. If Jane Doe married John Smith, her married name would be changed 
to Jane Doe Smith by this rule?


john.

At 09:01 AM 6/5/2008, Bill Bienia wrote:

To the list:

Was an option ever considered for married name changes to place the maiden
names in parentheses and append the husband's surname, i.e. Jane Doe married
John Smith and her married name changed to Jane (Doe) Smith?


Bill

Bill Bienia, PLCGS
www.CobblestoneLegacies.com

Robert57P via Gmail wrote:

Actually there are now 3 AKAs:
* The "true" AKAs that we put under the AKA button (actually the "Alternate
Names" button)
* The Marriage - maiden name changed to male's last name that the system
generates
* The nick-name in quotes in the GIVEN field (ie:  William Blake "Bill"
Patton)

Bob






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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy 7 - Maiden Names and Married Names

2008-06-05 Thread Tracy Skegg
I've added AKAs in v6 for married names.  If I use v7 global change to
married name (because I like the look of the name index format for
married names), do I then have to go into my file and delete all the
AKAs for married names I added in previous versions? (thousands
unfortunately)

Cheers
Tracy



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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy 7 - Maiden Names and Married Names

2008-06-05 Thread Robert57P via Gmail

Actually there are now 3 AKAs:
* The "true" AKAs that we put under the AKA button (actually the "Alternate 
Names" button)
* The Marriage - maiden name changed to male's last name that the system 
generates
* The nick-name in quotes in the GIVEN field (ie:  William Blake "Bill" 
Patton)


Bob
- Original Message - 
From: "RICHARD SCHULTHIES" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2008 10:51 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy 7 - Maiden Names and Married Names


We might call them 'entered' and 'generated' to differentiate.
Rich in LA CA

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Sent: Wednesday, June 4, 2008 2:02:57 AM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy 7 - Maiden Names and Married Names



To help avoid future confusion: in Legacy 7 there are now two AKAs the one 
which we all love/loath and the new one for married names of spouses. It 
might be helpful to say to which one is referring.


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Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2008 23:44:11 -0400
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy 7 - Maiden Names and Married Names

Belinda,
I think you can pick the married name thing globally - but each
individual can be set to ignore - so it should work for you. I do not
use the feature since quite some time ago - I put an AKA in for each
married female using their married name. I can include AKA (or not)
as I wish in any list (even under Legacy 6). There are LOTS of neat
things in the new Legacy 7 -- I have spent several weeks trying to
make parts crash - found a few - but most of the bugs are gone!
Enjoy!
Keith

On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 9:51 PM, Belinda wrote:
I've just finished watching the video online for some of the new features 
of
Legacy 7 and I love the inclusion of the married names in indexes etc 
which
is relevant for the vast majority of marriages in my file. But haven't 
been

able to download the program yet so I'm not able to check this out for
myself but what I'm wondering is there a solution to or if, not any
suggestions for work arounds for the following.

I like more and more women have retained my maiden name on marriage. What
I'm wondering does the program have a check box or something for each 
women

that you can tick if name was not changed on marriage (which would then
alter indexes etc) or if not what would LUG members suggest as a work 
around

for this situation.

Thanks in advance.

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RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy 7 - Maiden Names and Married Names

2008-06-05 Thread Bill Bienia
To the list:

Was an option ever considered for married name changes to place the maiden
names in parentheses and append the husband's surname, i.e. Jane Doe married
John Smith and her married name changed to Jane (Doe) Smith?


Bill

Bill Bienia, PLCGS
www.CobblestoneLegacies.com

Robert57P via Gmail wrote:

Actually there are now 3 AKAs:
* The "true" AKAs that we put under the AKA button (actually the "Alternate 
Names" button)
* The Marriage - maiden name changed to male's last name that the system 
generates
* The nick-name in quotes in the GIVEN field (ie:  William Blake "Bill" 
Patton)

Bob




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RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy 7 - Maiden Names and Married Names

2008-06-05 Thread ronald ferguson

Bob,

You can globally change all the marriage names at Options>Customise>Data Entry. 
I only use the individuals' marriage screen if I wish to make an excemption for 
some reason rather than to predict the future.


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> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy 7 - Maiden Names and Married Names
> Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2008 10:11:07 -0400
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> At the bottom of the MARRIAGE screen is a pull down list. It only includes
> 2 items:
> 0-None - don't generate married names
> 1-Replace wife's surname with husband's surname
> Only problem is it then brings up a dialogue box asking if you want it to be
> the default. Since they made it a pull-down (and not just a check box), it
> would have been nice if they changed it to:
> 0-None - don't generate married names for this person
> 1-Replace wife's surname with husband's surname for this person
> 2-None - don't generate married names for ALL FUTURE people
> 3-Replace wife's surname with husband's surname for ALL FUTURE people
> or something like that
> But that is a VERY minor quibble!
>
> You can also totally override the marriage name for either the male and the
> female on this same screen, just above this pull down list.
>
> Bob
>
> - Original Message -----
> From: "GeoSci" 
> To: 
> Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2008 11:44 PM
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy 7 - Maiden Names and Married Names
>
>
>> Belinda,
>> I think you can pick the married name thing globally - but each
>> individual can be set to ignore - so it should work for you. I do not
>> use the feature since quite some time ago - I put an AKA in for each
>> married female using their married name. I can include AKA (or not)
>> as I wish in any list (even under Legacy 6). There are LOTS of neat
>> things in the new Legacy 7 -- I have spent several weeks trying to
>> make parts crash - found a few - but most of the bugs are gone!
>> Enjoy!
>> Keith
>>
>> On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 9:51 PM, Belinda  wrote:
>>> I've just finished watching the video online for some of the new features
>>> of
>>> Legacy 7 and I love the inclusion of the married names in indexes etc
>>> which
>>> is relevant for the vast majority of marriages in my file. But haven't
>>> been
>>> able to download the program yet so I'm not able to check this out for
>>> myself but what I'm wondering is there a solution to or if, not any
>>> suggestions for work arounds for the following.
>>>
>>> I like more and more women have retained my maiden name on marriage. What
>>> I'm wondering does the program have a check box or something for each
>>> women
>>> that you can tick if name was not changed on marriage (which would then
>>> alter indexes etc) or if not what would LUG members suggest as a work
>>> around
>>> for this situation.
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance.
>>>
>>> Belinda

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RE: [Bulk] Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy 7 - Maiden Names and Married Names

2008-06-05 Thread Cathy

Jack there are two places where the wording can be changed.

One is now in Options > Customise - view tab - set default marriage 
wording - this has been expanded beyond the Legacy 6 options.


The second is in the Marriage Information Screen - Wording Options tab.

Cathy

At 11:11 PM 4/06/2008, you wrote:

So why do my unmarrieds, with both status as unmarried and the checkbox
ticked, still show up as Husband and Wife on the Family View?

Jack

-Original Message-

You will see that the marriage wording fields are more flexible. Just
be aware that L7 determines if a couple is married or not by the
"This couple did not marry" checkbox, not the marriage status.





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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy 7 - Maiden Names and Married Names

2008-06-05 Thread RICHARD SCHULTHIES
We might call them 'entered' and 'generated' to differentiate. 
Rich in LA CA

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To help avoid future confusion: in Legacy 7 there are now two AKAs the one 
which we all love/loath and the new one for married names of spouses. It might 
be helpful to say to which one is referring.

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> Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2008 23:44:11 -0400
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy 7 - Maiden Names and Married Names
>
> Belinda,
> I think you can pick the married name thing globally - but each
> individual can be set to ignore - so it should work for you. I do not
> use the feature since quite some time ago - I put an AKA in for each
> married female using their married name. I can include AKA (or not)
> as I wish in any list (even under Legacy 6). There are LOTS of neat
> things in the new Legacy 7 -- I have spent several weeks trying to
> make parts crash - found a few - but most of the bugs are gone!
> Enjoy!
> Keith
>
> On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 9:51 PM, Belinda  wrote:
>> I've just finished watching the video online for some of the new features of
>> Legacy 7 and I love the inclusion of the married names in indexes etc which
>> is relevant for the vast majority of marriages in my file. But haven't been
>> able to download the program yet so I'm not able to check this out for
>> myself but what I'm wondering is there a solution to or if, not any
>> suggestions for work arounds for the following.
>>
>> I like more and more women have retained my maiden name on marriage. What
>> I'm wondering does the program have a check box or something for each women
>> that you can tick if name was not changed on marriage (which would then
>> alter indexes etc) or if not what would LUG members suggest as a work around
>> for this situation.
>>
>> Thanks in advance.
>>
>> Belinda
>>
>>

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RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy 7 - Maiden Names and Married Names

2008-06-05 Thread ronald ferguson

To change the married surname of either partner tp to the Marriage Information 
Screen and click Change


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> Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2008 07:16:09 -0400
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy 7 - Maiden Names and Married Names
>
> When I installed V7 (on Monday!), it prompted for whether to
> automatically created the married names for women (can't remember the
> exact wording). So, that would be a global setting. However, this
> option appears to be for NEW marriages created. You can apply to all
> existing marriage from the Options>Customise>Data Entry> "Rule for
> generating default married names" and clicking Apply.
>
> They show up very nicely identified in the Index view when the option
> "Include married names" is selected. However, I noted it seems to only
> use the main surname (and not any alternates) of the husband.
>
> I didn't see a way to set it at the individual level. For me, this
> isn't a problem. The dominate cultural practice of my ancestors was to
> change the woman's surname upon marriage. So, today, even women who
> keep their birth surname often use both names legally (one socially
> and one professionally). Even if the woman doesn't choose to use both
> or only her birth surname, she will still likely receive
> correspondence in her husband's surname.
>
> 2008/6/3 Belinda :
>> I've just finished watching the video online for some of the new features of
>> Legacy 7 and I love the inclusion of the married names in indexes etc which
>> is relevant for the vast majority of marriages in my file. But haven't been
>> able to download the program yet so I'm not able to check this out for
>> myself but what I'm wondering is there a solution to or if, not any
>> suggestions for work arounds for the following.
>>
>> I like more and more women have retained my maiden name on marriage. What
>> I'm wondering does the program have a check box or something for each women
>> that you can tick if name was not changed on marriage (which would then
>> alter indexes etc) or if not what would LUG members suggest as a work around
>> for this situation.
>>
>> Thanks in advance.
>>
>> Belinda
>>

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RE: [Bulk] Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy 7 - Maiden Names and Married Names

2008-06-04 Thread Jack Earnshaw
So why do my unmarrieds, with both status as unmarried and the checkbox
ticked, still show up as Husband and Wife on the Family View?

Jack

-Original Message-

You will see that the marriage wording fields are more flexible. Just 
be aware that L7 determines if a couple is married or not by the 
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RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy 7 - Maiden Names and Married Names

2008-06-04 Thread Jay S. Van Zeeland
When viewing the Name list with Married names turned on, I do see that there
is (for lack of a better term) a squiggly icon in front of the names
generated with the Husband's last name. The person's name is listed as both
the Married name and the maiden name as two individuals, both pointing to
the same record. 





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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy 7 - Maiden Names and Married Names

2008-06-04 Thread Robert57P via Gmail
At the bottom of the MARRIAGE screen is a pull down list.  It only includes 
2 items:

0-None - don't generate married names
1-Replace wife's surname with husband's surname
Only problem is it then brings up a dialogue box asking if you want it to be 
the default.  Since they made it a pull-down (and not just a check box), it 
would have been nice if they changed it to:

0-None - don't generate married names for this person
1-Replace wife's surname with husband's surname for this person
2-None - don't generate married names for ALL FUTURE people
3-Replace wife's surname with husband's surname for ALL FUTURE people
or something like that
But that is a VERY minor quibble!

You can also totally override the marriage name for either the male and the 
female on this same screen, just above this pull down list.


Bob

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From: "GeoSci" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2008 11:44 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy 7 - Maiden Names and Married Names



Belinda,
 I think you can pick the married name thing globally - but each
individual can be set to ignore - so it should work for you.  I do not
use the feature since quite some time ago - I put an AKA in for each
married female using their married name.  I can include AKA (or not)
as I wish in any list (even under Legacy 6).  There are LOTS of neat
things in the new Legacy 7 -- I have spent several weeks trying to
make parts crash - found a few - but most of the bugs are gone!
Enjoy!
Keith

On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 9:51 PM, Belinda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I've just finished watching the video online for some of the new features 
of
Legacy 7 and I love the inclusion of the married names in indexes etc 
which
is relevant for the vast majority of marriages in my file. But haven't 
been

able to download the program yet so I'm not able to check this out for
myself but what I'm wondering is there a solution to or if, not any
suggestions for work arounds for the following.

I like more and more women have retained my maiden name on marriage. What
I'm wondering does the program have a check box or something for each 
women

that you can tick if name was not changed on marriage (which would then
alter indexes etc) or if not what would LUG members suggest as a work 
around

for this situation.

Thanks in advance.

Belinda



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RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy 7 - Maiden Names and Married Names

2008-06-04 Thread Jack Earnshaw
Yes, the name is preceded by a "Section" character § - looks like 2
intertwined "S"s in case plain text loses it.

Jack



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Will the name list have any sign to show if the name is a maiden name or 
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RE: [Bulk] Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy 7 - Maiden Names and Married Names

2008-06-04 Thread ronald ferguson

Jack,

On the Marriage Screen there is a new tab at the top called "Wording Options" 
where you can insert what you wish.


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> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Subject: RE: [Bulk] Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy 7 - Maiden Names and Married Names
> Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2008 16:11:52 +0100
>
> So why do my unmarrieds, with both status as unmarried and the checkbox
> ticked, still show up as Husband and Wife on the Family View?
>
> Jack
>
> -Original Message-
>
> You will see that the marriage wording fields are more flexible. Just
> be aware that L7 determines if a couple is married or not by the
> "This couple did not marry" checkbox, not the marriage status.
>
>

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RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy 7 - Maiden Names and Married Names

2008-06-04 Thread ronald ferguson

Belinda,

There is an override for individual pages


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> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Subject: [LegacyUG] Legacy 7 - Maiden Names and Married Names
> Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2008 11:51:14 +1000
>
> I've just finished watching the video online for some of the new features of
> Legacy 7 and I love the inclusion of the married names in indexes etc which
> is relevant for the vast majority of marriages in my file. But haven't been
> able to download the program yet so I'm not able to check this out for
> myself but what I'm wondering is there a solution to or if, not any
> suggestions for work arounds for the following.
>
> I like more and more women have retained my maiden name on marriage. What
> I'm wondering does the program have a check box or something for each women
> that you can tick if name was not changed on marriage (which would then
> alter indexes etc) or if not what would LUG members suggest as a work around
> for this situation.
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Belinda

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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy 7 - Maiden Names and Married Names

2008-06-04 Thread Kimberly Ryan
Not Belinda, but thanks Cathy. I part I was missing was "on the
Marriage Information Screen".

2008/6/4 Cathy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Hi Belinda,
>
> You can set the default setting on install or by going to Options >
> Customise - Data Entry tab.
>
> However, on the Marriage Information Screen, you can change both male and
> female names in any way you like for a particular relationship.
>
> Cathy
>
> At 09:51 AM 4/06/2008, you wrote:
>>
>> I've just finished watching the video online for some of the new features
>> of
>> Legacy 7 and I love the inclusion of the married names in indexes etc
>> which
>> is relevant for the vast majority of marriages in my file. But haven't
>> been
>> able to download the program yet so I'm not able to check this out for
>> myself but what I'm wondering is there a solution to or if, not any
>> suggestions for work arounds for the following.
>>
>> I like more and more women have retained my maiden name on marriage. What
>> I'm wondering does the program have a check box or something for each
>> women
>> that you can tick if name was not changed on marriage (which would then
>> alter indexes etc) or if not what would LUG members suggest as a work
>> around
>> for this situation.
>>
>> Thanks in advance.
>>
>> Belinda
>>
>>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy 7 - Maiden Names and Married Names

2008-06-04 Thread Cathy
Yes, there are symbols to show which are Married 
names added to the index or name list (§) and 
which are AKAs (~) and of course no symbol for the birth name.


Cathy

At 05:59 PM 4/06/2008, you wrote:
Will the name list have any sign to show if the 
name is a maiden name or married name?


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RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy 7 - Maiden Names and Married Names

2008-06-04 Thread ronald ferguson

Yes, on the married name.

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> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy 7 - Maiden Names and Married Names
> Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2008 05:59:43 -0400
>
> Will the name list have any sign to show if the name is a maiden name or
> married name?
>
> Joan L.
> Potsdam, NY
>
>
>

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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy 7 - Maiden Names and Married Names

2008-06-04 Thread Joan Lalonde
Will the name list have any sign to show if the name is a maiden name or 
married name?


Joan L.
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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy 7 - Maiden Names and Married Names

2008-06-04 Thread Cathy

Hi Belinda,

You can set the default setting on install or by going to Options > 
Customise - Data Entry tab.


However, on the Marriage Information Screen, you can change both male 
and female names in any way you like for a particular relationship.


Cathy

At 09:51 AM 4/06/2008, you wrote:

I've just finished watching the video online for some of the new features of
Legacy 7 and I love the inclusion of the married names in indexes etc which
is relevant for the vast majority of marriages in my file. But haven't been
able to download the program yet so I'm not able to check this out for
myself but what I'm wondering is there a solution to or if, not any
suggestions for work arounds for the following.

I like more and more women have retained my maiden name on marriage. What
I'm wondering does the program have a check box or something for each women
that you can tick if name was not changed on marriage (which would then
alter indexes etc) or if not what would LUG members suggest as a work around
for this situation.

Thanks in advance.

Belinda



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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy 7 - Maiden Names and Married Names

2008-06-04 Thread Dede Holden
Belinda,
I have Legacy 7 and just checked this out for you.  From the main tool
bar, you can go to Options, Customize, Data Entry.  At the bottom of
the screen is the global setting for changing the wife's surname, or
not changing married names.  You can also make this change
individually at the Marriage info window.

Hope this helps.

Dede

On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 8:51 PM, Belinda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I've just finished watching the video online for some of the new features of
> Legacy 7 and I love the inclusion of the married names in indexes etc which
> is relevant for the vast majority of marriages in my file. But haven't been
> able to download the program yet so I'm not able to check this out for
> myself but what I'm wondering is there a solution to or if, not any
> suggestions for work arounds for the following.
>
> I like more and more women have retained my maiden name on marriage. What
> I'm wondering does the program have a check box or something for each women
> that you can tick if name was not changed on marriage (which would then
> alter indexes etc) or if not what would LUG members suggest as a work around
> for this situation.
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Belinda
>
>
>
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RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy 7 - Maiden Names and Married Names

2008-06-04 Thread ronald ferguson


To help avoid future confusion: in Legacy 7 there are now two AKAs the one 
which we all love/loath and the new one for married names of spouses. It might 
be helpful to say to which one is referring.

Ron Ferguson

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> Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2008 23:44:11 -0400
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy 7 - Maiden Names and Married Names
>
> Belinda,
> I think you can pick the married name thing globally - but each
> individual can be set to ignore - so it should work for you. I do not
> use the feature since quite some time ago - I put an AKA in for each
> married female using their married name. I can include AKA (or not)
> as I wish in any list (even under Legacy 6). There are LOTS of neat
> things in the new Legacy 7 -- I have spent several weeks trying to
> make parts crash - found a few - but most of the bugs are gone!
> Enjoy!
> Keith
>
> On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 9:51 PM, Belinda  wrote:
>> I've just finished watching the video online for some of the new features of
>> Legacy 7 and I love the inclusion of the married names in indexes etc which
>> is relevant for the vast majority of marriages in my file. But haven't been
>> able to download the program yet so I'm not able to check this out for
>> myself but what I'm wondering is there a solution to or if, not any
>> suggestions for work arounds for the following.
>>
>> I like more and more women have retained my maiden name on marriage. What
>> I'm wondering does the program have a check box or something for each women
>> that you can tick if name was not changed on marriage (which would then
>> alter indexes etc) or if not what would LUG members suggest as a work around
>> for this situation.
>>
>> Thanks in advance.
>>
>> Belinda
>>
>>

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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy 7 - Maiden Names and Married Names

2008-06-04 Thread Kimberly Ryan
When I installed V7 (on Monday!), it prompted for whether to
automatically created the married names for women (can't remember the
exact wording). So, that would be a global setting. However, this
option appears to be for NEW marriages created. You can apply to all
existing marriage from the Options>Customise>Data Entry> "Rule for
generating default married names" and clicking Apply.

They show up very nicely identified in the Index view when the option
"Include married names" is selected. However, I noted it seems to only
use the main surname (and not any alternates) of the husband.

I didn't see a way to set it at the individual level. For me, this
isn't a problem. The dominate cultural practice of my ancestors was to
change the woman's surname upon marriage. So, today, even women who
keep their birth surname often use both names legally (one socially
and one professionally). Even if the woman doesn't choose to use both
or only her birth surname, she will still likely receive
correspondence in her husband's surname.

2008/6/3 Belinda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> I've just finished watching the video online for some of the new features of
> Legacy 7 and I love the inclusion of the married names in indexes etc which
> is relevant for the vast majority of marriages in my file. But haven't been
> able to download the program yet so I'm not able to check this out for
> myself but what I'm wondering is there a solution to or if, not any
> suggestions for work arounds for the following.
>
> I like more and more women have retained my maiden name on marriage. What
> I'm wondering does the program have a check box or something for each women
> that you can tick if name was not changed on marriage (which would then
> alter indexes etc) or if not what would LUG members suggest as a work around
> for this situation.
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Belinda
>
>
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy 7 - Maiden Names and Married Names

2008-06-04 Thread John B. Lisle

Belinda,

Don't worry. Legacy 7 has you covered!

You can set a default rule for your data : currently, either no 
married names or use the traditional anglo-centric married name structure.


Then for each relationship, you can override the default rule OR you 
can change the name of either or BOTH spouses to whatever you need.


You will see that the marriage wording fields are more flexible. Just 
be aware that L7 determines if a couple is married or not by the 
"This couple did not marry" checkbox, not the marriage status.


john.

At 09:51 PM 6/3/2008, Belinda wrote:

I've just finished watching the video online for some of the new features of
Legacy 7 and I love the inclusion of the married names in indexes etc which
is relevant for the vast majority of marriages in my file. But haven't been
able to download the program yet so I'm not able to check this out for
myself but what I'm wondering is there a solution to or if, not any
suggestions for work arounds for the following.

I like more and more women have retained my maiden name on marriage. What
I'm wondering does the program have a check box or something for each women
that you can tick if name was not changed on marriage (which would then
alter indexes etc) or if not what would LUG members suggest as a work around
for this situation.

Thanks in advance.

Belinda






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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy 7 - Maiden Names and Married Names

2008-06-03 Thread GeoSci
Belinda,
  I think you can pick the married name thing globally - but each
individual can be set to ignore - so it should work for you.  I do not
use the feature since quite some time ago - I put an AKA in for each
married female using their married name.  I can include AKA (or not)
as I wish in any list (even under Legacy 6).  There are LOTS of neat
things in the new Legacy 7 -- I have spent several weeks trying to
make parts crash - found a few - but most of the bugs are gone!
Enjoy!
Keith

On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 9:51 PM, Belinda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I've just finished watching the video online for some of the new features of
> Legacy 7 and I love the inclusion of the married names in indexes etc which
> is relevant for the vast majority of marriages in my file. But haven't been
> able to download the program yet so I'm not able to check this out for
> myself but what I'm wondering is there a solution to or if, not any
> suggestions for work arounds for the following.
>
> I like more and more women have retained my maiden name on marriage. What
> I'm wondering does the program have a check box or something for each women
> that you can tick if name was not changed on marriage (which would then
> alter indexes etc) or if not what would LUG members suggest as a work around
> for this situation.
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Belinda
>
>
>
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[LegacyUG] Legacy 7 - Maiden Names and Married Names

2008-06-03 Thread Belinda
I've just finished watching the video online for some of the new features of
Legacy 7 and I love the inclusion of the married names in indexes etc which
is relevant for the vast majority of marriages in my file. But haven't been
able to download the program yet so I'm not able to check this out for
myself but what I'm wondering is there a solution to or if, not any
suggestions for work arounds for the following. 

I like more and more women have retained my maiden name on marriage. What
I'm wondering does the program have a check box or something for each women
that you can tick if name was not changed on marriage (which would then
alter indexes etc) or if not what would LUG members suggest as a work around
for this situation.

Thanks in advance.

Belinda



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