Re: [LegacyUG] V7 Legacy - mapping outside USA?
Go to: http://www.microsoft.com/virtualearth/product/coverage.aspxhttp://www.microsoft.com/virtualearth/product/coverage.aspx You get an idea coverage On 5/27/08, Kimberly Ryan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks, Cathy and everyone who responded. I checked out Virtual Earth and it does provide excellent aerial images of the regions that interest me. Looking forward to trying this in V7. 2008/5/25 Cathy [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi Kimberly, I have very few USA locations. How well Virtual Earth is mapping the locations you've entered into Legacy varies. Virtual Earth works on current location names so it is much worse at automatically mapping an historic location. There is an option to ask to have all locations without coordinates automatically mapped. I haven't and wouldn't because Virtual Earth likes guessing and often guesses wrong. Any location that already has coordinates is simply mapped to those coordinates. If on looking you decide the pin is a little misplaced and would like to reposition it, you just right click on the spot you want and OK the shift. I understand that the coordinates given in the Legacy 6 Geo-location list are not as precise as VE but it's something I never used. Like Google Earth, VE varies in how close you can zoom in to various places. In London you can get a Birds Eye view and look at each side of a building from about 20m. For the place I grew up near Margaret River in Western Australia (how times change, when I was growing up it was the poor relation and anyone who wanted to complete high school had to bus to Busselton, now it is known for fine wine around the world) you can only zoom to 2km in Aerial view but with the map view you can go in and see the street names. So if you want all your locations resolved automatically, it's not so good, even for the USA. If you're prepared to get to know the locations and zoom in on the map or Aerial or Bird's Eye view, you can put the pin wherever you want across the whole world. However depending on where, you get more or less help. Looking at Africa - most of Africa you only get aerial from 2.5km whereas the Island of Mauritius can be viewed from 150m much better than where I live in the Perth Hills. Cheers, Cathy At 08:12 PM 25/05/2008, you wrote: All the talk about V7 mapping has me wondering. How well will it work for non-USA locations? How *does* it work? Will it use the coordinates I have entered? How will it handle coordinates that seem to map to the middle of the ocean? (Land masses that show up on satellite maps but are missing from other maps.) I ask because I've been disappointed before with mapping features of other software. If they do anything at all, they tend to move my locations at the next recognisable higher level location which is not helpful. Thanks. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] V7 Legacy - mapping outside USA?
Thanks, Cathy and everyone who responded. I checked out Virtual Earth and it does provide excellent aerial images of the regions that interest me. Looking forward to trying this in V7. 2008/5/25 Cathy [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi Kimberly, I have very few USA locations. How well Virtual Earth is mapping the locations you've entered into Legacy varies. Virtual Earth works on current location names so it is much worse at automatically mapping an historic location. There is an option to ask to have all locations without coordinates automatically mapped. I haven't and wouldn't because Virtual Earth likes guessing and often guesses wrong. Any location that already has coordinates is simply mapped to those coordinates. If on looking you decide the pin is a little misplaced and would like to reposition it, you just right click on the spot you want and OK the shift. I understand that the coordinates given in the Legacy 6 Geo-location list are not as precise as VE but it's something I never used. Like Google Earth, VE varies in how close you can zoom in to various places. In London you can get a Birds Eye view and look at each side of a building from about 20m. For the place I grew up near Margaret River in Western Australia (how times change, when I was growing up it was the poor relation and anyone who wanted to complete high school had to bus to Busselton, now it is known for fine wine around the world) you can only zoom to 2km in Aerial view but with the map view you can go in and see the street names. So if you want all your locations resolved automatically, it's not so good, even for the USA. If you're prepared to get to know the locations and zoom in on the map or Aerial or Bird's Eye view, you can put the pin wherever you want across the whole world. However depending on where, you get more or less help. Looking at Africa - most of Africa you only get aerial from 2.5km whereas the Island of Mauritius can be viewed from 150m much better than where I live in the Perth Hills. Cheers, Cathy At 08:12 PM 25/05/2008, you wrote: All the talk about V7 mapping has me wondering. How well will it work for non-USA locations? How *does* it work? Will it use the coordinates I have entered? How will it handle coordinates that seem to map to the middle of the ocean? (Land masses that show up on satellite maps but are missing from other maps.) I ask because I've been disappointed before with mapping features of other software. If they do anything at all, they tend to move my locations at the next recognisable higher level location which is not helpful. Thanks. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] V7 Legacy - mapping outside USA?
All the talk about V7 mapping has me wondering. How well will it work for non-USA locations? How *does* it work? Will it use the coordinates I have entered? How will it handle coordinates that seem to map to the middle of the ocean? (Land masses that show up on satellite maps but are missing from other maps.) I ask because I've been disappointed before with mapping features of other software. If they do anything at all, they tend to move my locations at the next recognisable higher level location which is not helpful. Thanks. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] V7 Legacy - mapping outside USA?
I can only refer to the UK at present and I have not tried entering Latitude and Longitudes at present as they ar something I don't use, but I see no reason why they should cause a problem - I'll have look and let you know. Using auto-find it works very well indeed (again in the UK) Similarly I will look up some very obscure island (I don't think I have any in my DB) and will let you know of any problems. Ron Ferguson _ New Blog: Free Contacts Database for use with Open Office http://www.fergys.co.uk View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ Date: Sun, 25 May 2008 08:12:02 -0400 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: [LegacyUG] V7 Legacy - mapping outside USA? All the talk about V7 mapping has me wondering. How well will it work for non-USA locations? How *does* it work? Will it use the coordinates I have entered? How will it handle coordinates that seem to map to the middle of the ocean? (Land masses that show up on satellite maps but are missing from other maps.) I ask because I've been disappointed before with mapping features of other software. If they do anything at all, they tend to move my locations at the next recognisable higher level location which is not helpful. Thanks. _ http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/msnnkmgl001002ukm/direct/01/ Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] V7 Legacy - mapping outside USA?
Hi Kimberly, I have very few USA locations. How well Virtual Earth is mapping the locations you've entered into Legacy varies. Virtual Earth works on current location names so it is much worse at automatically mapping an historic location. There is an option to ask to have all locations without coordinates automatically mapped. I haven't and wouldn't because Virtual Earth likes guessing and often guesses wrong. Any location that already has coordinates is simply mapped to those coordinates. If on looking you decide the pin is a little misplaced and would like to reposition it, you just right click on the spot you want and OK the shift. I understand that the coordinates given in the Legacy 6 Geo-location list are not as precise as VE but it's something I never used. Like Google Earth, VE varies in how close you can zoom in to various places. In London you can get a Birds Eye view and look at each side of a building from about 20m. For the place I grew up near Margaret River in Western Australia (how times change, when I was growing up it was the poor relation and anyone who wanted to complete high school had to bus to Busselton, now it is known for fine wine around the world) you can only zoom to 2km in Aerial view but with the map view you can go in and see the street names. So if you want all your locations resolved automatically, it's not so good, even for the USA. If you're prepared to get to know the locations and zoom in on the map or Aerial or Bird's Eye view, you can put the pin wherever you want across the whole world. However depending on where, you get more or less help. Looking at Africa - most of Africa you only get aerial from 2.5km whereas the Island of Mauritius can be viewed from 150m much better than where I live in the Perth Hills. Cheers, Cathy At 08:12 PM 25/05/2008, you wrote: All the talk about V7 mapping has me wondering. How well will it work for non-USA locations? How *does* it work? Will it use the coordinates I have entered? How will it handle coordinates that seem to map to the middle of the ocean? (Land masses that show up on satellite maps but are missing from other maps.) I ask because I've been disappointed before with mapping features of other software. If they do anything at all, they tend to move my locations at the next recognisable higher level location which is not helpful. Thanks. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] V7 Legacy - mapping outside USA?
On 25 May 2008 Kimberly Ryan wrote: All the talk about V7 mapping has me wondering. How well will it work for non-USA locations? It works well. I have many non-USA locations, including lots in England, Canada and even the Titanic sinking in the Atlantic (a cousin's death), most mapped accurately but some (including the Titanic) needed manual correction of the auto geo-coded Lat/Long coordinates. Be prepared to spend a lot of time going through all your locations to verify that each has been mapped correctly and, where necessary, to correct them. Cheers, -- Dave N. -- David Naylor, Halton Hills, Ontario, Canada. --- Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] V7 Legacy - mapping outside USA?
Kimberly, I have now tried it using (a) Using The Times World Atlas to get the Lat and Long for Preston, Lancashire, England. It was close but not exact (the pins are easy to move, however). So it was OK if one wanted to see where a town is but not close enough if you were looking for a specific area. (b) I then looked for an Island called Anda in Indonesia. This is not in the index so I had to again get the Lat and Long but this time it did not give it in the book's index so I had to estimate from its Map grid. Having put the information in, it did a pretty good job of finding the place. Admittedly it was a good bit out in miles but close enough for me to see where it should be, and to put it in about the right place in the sea! I must emphasise that the Lat and Long I got from the map were only estimates so I was reasonably happy with the outcome. Ron Ferguson _ New Blog: Free Contacts Database for use with Open Office http://www.fergys.co.uk View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] V7 Legacy - mapping outside USA? Date: Sun, 25 May 2008 15:41:22 +0100 I can only refer to the UK at present and I have not tried entering Latitude and Longitudes at present as they ar something I don't use, but I see no reason why they should cause a problem - I'll have look and let you know. Using auto-find it works very well indeed (again in the UK) Similarly I will look up some very obscure island (I don't think I have any in my DB) and will let you know of any problems. Ron Ferguson _ New Blog: Free Contacts Database for use with Open Office http://www.fergys.co.uk View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ Date: Sun, 25 May 2008 08:12:02 -0400 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: [LegacyUG] V7 Legacy - mapping outside USA? All the talk about V7 mapping has me wondering. How well will it work for non-USA locations? How *does* it work? Will it use the coordinates I have entered? How will it handle coordinates that seem to map to the middle of the ocean? (Land masses that show up on satellite maps but are missing from other maps.) I ask because I've been disappointed before with mapping features of other software. If they do anything at all, they tend to move my locations at the next recognisable higher level location which is not helpful. Thanks. _ _ http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/msnnkmgl001007ukm/direct/01/ Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] V7 Legacy - mapping outside USA?
I have found the mapping feature to work great outside of the US locations. If the location is wrong, you can correct it by using your own coordinates or by moving the push-pin location to the correct location if it is nearby. You will like it. Chap On Sun, May 25, 2008 at 5:12 AM, Kimberly Ryan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: All the talk about V7 mapping has me wondering. How well will it work for non-USA locations? How *does* it work? Will it use the coordinates I have entered? How will it handle coordinates that seem to map to the middle of the ocean? (Land masses that show up on satellite maps but are missing from other maps.) I ask because I've been disappointed before with mapping features of other software. If they do anything at all, they tend to move my locations at the next recognisable higher level location which is not helpful. Thanks. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp -- Leon Chapman [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] V7 Legacy - mapping outside USA?
Kimberly, The mapping system uses Microsoft's Virtual Earth program. You can go online and check to see how it does with your international sites, and that is about how well it will do with Legacy. Keep in mind that the locations as entered in Legacy is how VE will be processing them. Here is the web site: http://www.microsoft.com/virtualearth/ Susan On Sun, May 25, 2008 at 7:12 AM, Kimberly Ryan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: All the talk about V7 mapping has me wondering. How well will it work for non-USA locations? How *does* it work? Will it use the coordinates I have entered? How will it handle coordinates that seem to map to the middle of the ocean? (Land masses that show up on satellite maps but are missing from other maps.) I ask because I've been disappointed before with mapping features of other software. If they do anything at all, they tend to move my locations at the next recognisable higher level location which is not helpful. Thanks. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] V7 Legacy - mapping outside USA?
Ron The problems I have found are numerous insofar that when they moved UK Isle of Man from county series map to the current Ordnance Survey series and the to the digital mapping spelling of names have changed and in a few instance locations have gone off the face of this earth. This makes life a little interesting matching old locations to modern locations. Having worked with all three I hit on the problems with the Geo Location Database Virtual Earth but Google Earth has a more up to database. Brendan Caley -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ronald ferguson Sent: 25 May 2008 15:41 To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] V7 Legacy - mapping outside USA? I can only refer to the UK at present and I have not tried entering Latitude and Longitudes at present as they ar something I don't use, but I see no reason why they should cause a problem - I'll have look and let you know. Using auto-find it works very well indeed (again in the UK) Similarly I will look up some very obscure island (I don't think I have any in my DB) and will let you know of any problems. Ron Ferguson _ New Blog: Free Contacts Database for use with Open Office http://www.fergys.co.uk View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ Date: Sun, 25 May 2008 08:12:02 -0400 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: [LegacyUG] V7 Legacy - mapping outside USA? All the talk about V7 mapping has me wondering. How well will it work for non-USA locations? How *does* it work? Will it use the coordinates I have entered? How will it handle coordinates that seem to map to the middle of the ocean? (Land masses that show up on satellite maps but are missing from other maps.) I ask because I've been disappointed before with mapping features of other software. If they do anything at all, they tend to move my locations at the next recognisable higher level location which is not helpful. Thanks. _ http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/msnnkmgl001002ukm/direct/01/ Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] V7 Legacy - mapping outside USA?
Brendan, I know what you mean! I am fortunate in that I have had the opportunity to travel pretty well all of the British Isles both socially and in business and have, therefore, personal knowledge of its geography. Additionally, I also have maps of many areas, not only the OS maps but also town maps dating back some 50 years, which are also a great help. Around 1974 I was personally invloved in the reorganisation of the Counties (or at least its effects) and am, therefore, reasonably familiar with those as well. Without those experiences I am sure I would find it a steep learning curve! Ron Ferguson _ New Blog: Free Contacts Database for use with Open Office http://www.fergys.co.uk View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] V7 Legacy - mapping outside USA? Date: Sun, 25 May 2008 17:44:10 +0100 Ron The problems I have found are numerous insofar that when they moved UK Isle of Man from county series map to the current Ordnance Survey series and the to the digital mapping spelling of names have changed and in a few instance locations have gone off the face of this earth. This makes life a little interesting matching old locations to modern locations. Having worked with all three I hit on the problems with the Geo Location Database Virtual Earth but Google Earth has a more up to database. Brendan Caley -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ronald ferguson Sent: 25 May 2008 15:41 To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] V7 Legacy - mapping outside USA? I can only refer to the UK at present and I have not tried entering Latitude and Longitudes at present as they ar something I don't use, but I see no reason why they should cause a problem - I'll have look and let you know. Using auto-find it works very well indeed (again in the UK) Similarly I will look up some very obscure island (I don't think I have any in my DB) and will let you know of any problems. Ron Ferguson _ New Blog: Free Contacts Database for use with Open Office http://www.fergys.co.uk View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ Date: Sun, 25 May 2008 08:12:02 -0400 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: [LegacyUG] V7 Legacy - mapping outside USA? All the talk about V7 mapping has me wondering. How well will it work for non-USA locations? How *does* it work? Will it use the coordinates I have entered? How will it handle coordinates that seem to map to the middle of the ocean? (Land masses that show up on satellite maps but are missing from other maps.) I ask because I've been disappointed before with mapping features of other software. If they do anything at all, they tend to move my locations at the next recognisable higher level location which is not helpful. Thanks. _ _ http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/msnnkmgl001007ukm/direct/01/ Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
