Re: [LegacyUG] Version 7 Lat/Long format
I was hoping someone else would answer 'cause I didn't know. But I didn't see any answer so I did some playing. Rather than calling the conversion tool from the menu, here's one way to do it, but it doesn't put it into the "IN" or "PLACE" field - it puts it into the ADDRESS field instead: * Edit the person * Edit the event * Click the house icon * Fill in info if its blank (LEGACY SUPPORT - why isn't the city, state, county, country automatically passed to and/or from this box to the IN or PLACE field?) * Click the "world/binoculars" icon if desired * Click the calculator icon * Put your decimal value in * Click CONVERT * Click LAT 1 to put it into the top LATITUDE box, or click LONG 1 to put it in the LONGITUDE box * repeat for the other LAT/LONG if needed * Click RETURN 1ST have this carry into the address box Ah ha - just found this method also - puts it into the IN or PLACE box: * Edit the person * Edit the event if applicable * Click the down arrow next to the IN or PLACE field ("IN" for 4 primary, "PLACE" for event) * You are now in the master location list with the place highlighted (so you could probably start here???) * Click EDIT * Click the calculator (bottom center of box) * (I can't figure out how to get the current figures into the Deg/Min/Sec box without copy/paste - but you aren't looking for this anyway, right?) * Put in your decimal LATITUDE degrees in the DECIMAL box * Click CONVERT * Click LAT 1 to put it into the appropriate box in top-left * Put in your decimal LONGITUDE degrees in the DECIMAL box * click CONVERT * Click LONG 1 to put it into the appropriate box in top left * Click RETURN 1ST to send this pair to the MASTER LIST * Click SAVE * Click YES to change all A lot of clicking, but no copy/paste Bob - Original Message - From: "Art Seddon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, June 16, 2008 2:59 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Version 7 Lat/Long format Bob. Is there a way to have the program transfer these numbers to a location without cut and paste back and forth? Art Seddon Robert57P via Gmail wrote: Note that the deluxe version includes a converter from degrees-minutes-seconds to decimal degrees. It is under Tools, Distance and Bearing calculator Bob Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 8.0.100 / Virus Database: 270.3.0/1504 - Release Date: 6/15/2008 5:52 PM Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Version 7 Lat/Long format
- Original Message - From: "Robert Carneal USA" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> For just a few locations, 50 or so or fewer, it is not too bad. But if you have 100s or 1,000s of locations to convert, it is trying to do conversion for that many! Robert After opening the Legacy database in Access, someone more clever than me should be able to figure out how to use these instructions ( http://en.allexperts.com/q/Using-MS-Access-1440/2008/4/convert-decimal-latitude-longitude.htm ) to convert an entire goup of decimal coordinates. Gary Templeman Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Version 7 Lat/Long format
Before anyone gets really excited about the accuracy of GPS, let me point out that commercial units are only accurate to about 3 meters (~10 ft.). Different people with the same/different unit can get different readings. This may be due to the time of the day that the reading was taken, the person using the device and probably several other possibilities. This means that the location of the reading could be as much as 10 ft. off when checked by a second person or even if the user took another measurement. In most cases this is accurate enough, but the chance of being spot on is rather slim. Personally I would not depend on the GPS unit to give me a position to within inches, within feet yes, but never within inches. Most GPS units will measure in degrees; degrees & minutes; and degree, minutes & seconds. The decimal portion is part of the smallest unit of measurement. The usefulness of decimal seconds could be argumentative. Some devices use +/- for north & south and east & west measurements. Other devices use N, E, S & W appended to the beginning or end of the measurement. Of course all this does not answer how to convert the data found in a listing. There are many sites that have conversion tools that will convert among the various measurements. One that I have used is found at: http://www.cosports.com/index.php/tool/tools/latlong It seems to work quite well. FL Rose From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Clare Sent: Monday, June 16, 2008 1:41 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Version 7 Lat/Long format .001 of a minute of arc is about 1 inch. Should be accurate enough for most purposes. John 2008/6/16 Larry Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Hi David, You may have missed my point I recognize degrees, minutes and decimals of minutes is a good form of GPS. My point is that when gathering GPS locations, from the Internet and books, most are in decimals of degrees format. Thus, converting them to Legacy format is a pain in the a--. I use these GPS locations for all my rural cemeteries and farm locations, in my family they mostly farmers and all were buried in small local (family)cemeteries. With decimals of degrees I can get down the feet of finding any thing. I hope you understand my concern It's just the converting. When Legacy was gathering input for the new version 7, I suggested having the choice (option) of either degrees, minutes and decimals of minutes or decimals of degrees, Geoff liked the idea and e-mail me to say so. But it never happened. I was just wondering why. I have copied Geoff on this matter, but he has not to responded. Best, Larry Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Version 7 Lat/Long format
Larry, I see your point. I guess I'm just *too* traditional but I hate Lat/Long being decimalised. Having said that, we do use degrees, minutes and decimals of minutes so I haven't really got a leg to stand on have I? Since degrees and decimals of degrees are being used in the world I'll get over it and agree with you, the choice between degrees/decimals and the present system would be very nice to have and would suit everyone. Regards, Dave. From: Larry Wilson Sent: Tue 17/06/2008 02:14 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Version 7 Lat/Long format Hi David, You may have missed my point I recognize degrees, minutes and decimals of minutes is a good form of GPS. My point is that when gathering GPS locations, from the Internet and books, most are in decimals of degrees format. Thus, converting them to Legacy format is a pain in the a--. I use these GPS locations for all my rural cemeteries and farm locations, in my family they mostly farmers and all were buried in small local (family)cemeteries. With decimals of degrees I can get down the feet of finding any thing. I hope you understand my concern It's just the converting. When Legacy was gathering input for the new version 7, I suggested having the choice (option) of either degrees, minutes and decimals of minutes or decimals of degrees, Geoff liked the idea and e-mail me to say so. But it never happened. I was just wondering why. I have copied Geoff on this matter, but he has not to responded. Best, Larry Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Version 7 Lat/Long format
Bob. Is there a way to have the program transfer these numbers to a location without cut and paste back and forth? Art Seddon Robert57P via Gmail wrote: Note that the deluxe version includes a converter from degrees-minutes-seconds to decimal degrees. It is under Tools, Distance and Bearing calculator Bob Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 8.0.100 / Virus Database: 270.3.0/1504 - Release Date: 6/15/2008 5:52 PM Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Version 7 Lat/Long format
Hello. Don't forget that Legacy provides a way for you to convert DMS to decimal degrees, and vice versa! Quite a few people are pleasantly pleased to discover this. To find it, go to "Add/Edit Location." For just a few locations, 50 or so or fewer, it is not too bad. But if you have 100s or 1,000s of locations to convert, it is trying to do conversion for that many! I am positive Geoff will respond. They do have tens of thousands of email to respond to. Robert Larry Wilson wrote: Hi David, You may have missed my point I recognize degrees, minutes and decimals of minutes is a good form of GPS. My point is that when gathering GPS locations, from the Internet and books, most are in decimals of degrees format. Thus, converting them to Legacy format is a pain in the a--. I use these GPS locations for all my rural cemeteries and farm locations, in my family they mostly farmers and all were buried in small local (family)cemeteries. With decimals of degrees I can get down the feet of finding any thing. I hope you understand my concern It's just the converting. When Legacy was gathering input for the new version 7, I suggested having the choice (option) of either degrees, minutes and decimals of minutes or decimals of degrees, Geoff liked the idea and e-mail me to say so. But it never happened. I was just wondering why. I have copied Geoff on this matter, but he has not to responded. Best, Larry Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Version 7 Lat/Long format
.001 of a minute of arc is about 1 inch. Should be accurate enough for most purposes. John 2008/6/16 Larry Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Hi David, > > You may have missed my point I recognize degrees, minutes and decimals > of minutes is a good form of GPS. My point is that when gathering GPS > locations, from the Internet and books, most are in decimals of degrees > format. Thus, converting them to Legacy format is a pain in the a--. > > I use these GPS locations for all my rural cemeteries and farm locations, > in > my family they mostly farmers and all were buried in small local > (family)cemeteries. With decimals of degrees I can get down the feet of > finding any thing. > > I hope you understand my concern It's just the converting. > > When Legacy was gathering input for the new version 7, I suggested having > the choice (option) of either degrees, minutes and decimals of minutes or > decimals of degrees, Geoff liked the idea and e-mail me to say so. But > it never happened. > > I was just wondering why. I have copied Geoff on this matter, but he has > not > to responded. > > Best, > > Larry > > ---Original Message--- > > From: David > Date: 06/16/08 00:03:20 > To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.Com > Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Version 7 Lat/Long format > > > Larry, > As a mariner/navigator my opinion is that Millennia are doing it exactly > right. We use degrees, minutes and decimals of minutes. One minute of Lat. > = > 1 nautical mile so when we talk in minutes we are talking in miles, as it > always has been. The Lat. Scale on the side of nautical charts is in > degrees > and minutes therefore, when we measure off that scale we get miles. > It's just one area where decimalisation doesn't work. Using decimals of > degrees is, to me, all wrong. I don't know why some people do it. > I'd like to think that Millennia are doing it right for my reasons but I > honestly don't know. > > Regards, > Dave (NZ). > > > > > > From: Larry Wilson > Sent: Mon 16/06/2008 02:05 > To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.Com > Subject: [LegacyUG] Version 7 Lat/Long format > > > Since most of the Internet sites use decimal GPS locations (Latitude: 37 > 59778 : Longitude: -92.9), I was wondering why Legacy is locked into > (DDMMSS.xxx) GPS? > > > > > > > > > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp > Archived messages: > http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ > Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp > To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp > > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Version 7 Lat/Long format
Note that the deluxe version includes a converter from degrees-minutes-seconds to decimal degrees. It is under Tools, Distance and Bearing calculator Bob - Original Message - From: "Larry Wilson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, June 16, 2008 10:14 AM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Version 7 Lat/Long format Hi David, You may have missed my point I recognize degrees, minutes and decimals of minutes is a good form of GPS. My point is that when gathering GPS locations, from the Internet and books, most are in decimals of degrees format. Thus, converting them to Legacy format is a pain in the a--. I use these GPS locations for all my rural cemeteries and farm locations, in my family they mostly farmers and all were buried in small local (family)cemeteries. With decimals of degrees I can get down the feet of finding any thing. I hope you understand my concern It's just the converting. When Legacy was gathering input for the new version 7, I suggested having the choice (option) of either degrees, minutes and decimals of minutes or decimals of degrees, Geoff liked the idea and e-mail me to say so. But it never happened. I was just wondering why. I have copied Geoff on this matter, but he has not to responded. Best, Larry ---Original Message--- From: David Date: 06/16/08 00:03:20 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.Com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Version 7 Lat/Long format Larry, As a mariner/navigator my opinion is that Millennia are doing it exactly right. We use degrees, minutes and decimals of minutes. One minute of Lat. = 1 nautical mile so when we talk in minutes we are talking in miles, as it always has been. The Lat. Scale on the side of nautical charts is in degrees and minutes therefore, when we measure off that scale we get miles. It's just one area where decimalisation doesn't work. Using decimals of degrees is, to me, all wrong. I don't know why some people do it. I'd like to think that Millennia are doing it right for my reasons but I honestly don't know. Regards, Dave (NZ). From: Larry Wilson Sent: Mon 16/06/2008 02:05 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.Com Subject: [LegacyUG] Version 7 Lat/Long format Since most of the Internet sites use decimal GPS locations (Latitude: 37 59778 : Longitude: -92.9), I was wondering why Legacy is locked into (DDMMSS.xxx) GPS? Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Version 7 Lat/Long format
Hi David, You may have missed my point I recognize degrees, minutes and decimals of minutes is a good form of GPS. My point is that when gathering GPS locations, from the Internet and books, most are in decimals of degrees format. Thus, converting them to Legacy format is a pain in the a--. I use these GPS locations for all my rural cemeteries and farm locations, in my family they mostly farmers and all were buried in small local (family)cemeteries. With decimals of degrees I can get down the feet of finding any thing. I hope you understand my concern It's just the converting. When Legacy was gathering input for the new version 7, I suggested having the choice (option) of either degrees, minutes and decimals of minutes or decimals of degrees, Geoff liked the idea and e-mail me to say so. But it never happened. I was just wondering why. I have copied Geoff on this matter, but he has not to responded. Best, Larry ---Original Message--- From: David Date: 06/16/08 00:03:20 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.Com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Version 7 Lat/Long format Larry, As a mariner/navigator my opinion is that Millennia are doing it exactly right. We use degrees, minutes and decimals of minutes. One minute of Lat. = 1 nautical mile so when we talk in minutes we are talking in miles, as it always has been. The Lat. Scale on the side of nautical charts is in degrees and minutes therefore, when we measure off that scale we get miles. It's just one area where decimalisation doesn't work. Using decimals of degrees is, to me, all wrong. I don't know why some people do it. I'd like to think that Millennia are doing it right for my reasons but I honestly don't know. Regards, Dave (NZ). From: Larry Wilson Sent: Mon 16/06/2008 02:05 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.Com Subject: [LegacyUG] Version 7 Lat/Long format Since most of the Internet sites use decimal GPS locations (Latitude: 37 59778 : Longitude: -92.9), I was wondering why Legacy is locked into (DDMMSS.xxx) GPS? Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Version 7 Lat/Long format
Larry, As a mariner/navigator my opinion is that Millennia are doing it exactly right. We use degrees, minutes and decimals of minutes. One minute of Lat. = 1 nautical mile so when we talk in minutes we are talking in miles, as it always has been. The Lat. scale on the side of nautical charts is in degrees and minutes therefore, when we measure off that scale we get miles. It's just one area where decimalisation doesn't work. Using decimals of degrees is, to me, all wrong. I don't know why some people do it. I'd like to think that Millennia are doing it right for my reasons but I honestly don't know. Regards, Dave (NZ). From: Larry Wilson Sent: Mon 16/06/2008 02:05 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Version 7 Lat/Long format Since most of the Internet sites use decimal GPS locations (Latitude: 37 59778 : Longitude: -92.9), I was wondering why Legacy is locked into (DDMMSS.xxx) GPS? Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] Version 7 Lat/Long format
Since most of the Internet sites use decimal GPS locations (Latitude: 37 59778 : Longitude: -92.9), I was wondering why Legacy is locked into (DDMMSS.xxx) GPS? Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Version 7 Lat/Long format
Debbie Freeman wrote I have Legacy 6, with the longitude and latitude in the location screen. From this message the format L6 requires is opposite to what L7 requires. I'm not sure what you mean by "in the location screen" but I have just looked at the Address fields in Legacy 6 and the Lat & Long are entered exactly as in Legacy 7 - DDMMSS.xxx and DDDMMSS.xxx. -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Version 7 Lat/Long format
Hello All, Now I am really confused. I have Legacy 6, with the longitude and latitude in the location screen. >From this message the format L6 requires is opposite to what L7 requires. When I buy and download Legacy 7 Deluxe. What happens? What do I need to do? Do I retype the locations longitude and latitude? Does the program somehow convert it to the new format? Does MS Virtual Earth break down? Thank You for any input. Still Confused, Debbie Freeman -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dede Holden Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2008 3:14 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Version 7 Lat/Long format Okay, I'm going to answer my own question. I went to the Locations window and clicked "Add." At the bottom of the screen, where you add latitude and longitude, I see the explanation of this lengthy number. Latitude = DDMMSS.xxx and Longitude = DDDMMSS.xxx So 681234.293 is 68 degrees, 12 minutes and 34.293 seconds. Now it makes sense. Dede On Sat, Jun 14, 2008 at 4:00 PM, Dede Holden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Jenny and Jon, > > I must be a math/geognoramus. Here's a quote taken from the Help file > in Legacy. > > "The latitude and longitude must be in the form of degrees, minutes > and seconds. The degrees must be between 0 and 90, if a latitude, and > between 0 and 180, if a longitude. The minutes and seconds must be > between 0 and 59. The seconds can have up to three decimal places > after it. e.g. 681234.293." > > If the degrees must be between 0 and 90 or (0 and 180 for longitude), > and the minutes and seconds must be between 0 and 59 then where do > you get the number 681234? It's not between 0 and 59 or 90 or 180! > > I understand latitude and longitude, but I don't understand this > number format. Is there someone who can put it in 6th grade math > terms? > > Thanks! > Dede Holden > > On Fri, Jun 13, 2008 at 6:38 AM, Jenny M Benson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> John Gregson wrote >>> >>> What is the correct format when entering Lat/Long into Legacy? >>> I've checked the archives and the Help but can't find a simple answer., >>> probably missed something. >> >> Tes, I think you have. >> >> In the Help Index, look for Latitude and Longitude and after you click >> Display select Latitude and Longitude again. Scroll down to the paragraph >> in bold type which explains how Lat and Long must be expressed in degrees, >> minutes and seconds. When you enter the Lat and Long there are separate >> drop-downs for selecting N/s and E/W respectively. >> >> I found all the explanations of Lat & Long in the Help system very useful, >> being as I am a geognoramus! >> -- >> Jenny M Benson >> >> >> >> Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp >> Archived messages: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ >> Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp >> To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Version 7 Lat/Long format
Dede Holden wrote: Jenny and Jon, I must be a math/geognoramus. Here's a quote taken from the Help file in Legacy. "The latitude and longitude must be in the form of degrees, minutes and seconds. The degrees must be between 0 and 90, if a latitude, and between 0 and 180, if a longitude. The minutes and seconds must be between 0 and 59. The seconds can have up to three decimal places after it. e.g. 681234.293." If the degrees must be between 0 and 90 or (0 and 180 for longitude), and the minutes and seconds must be between 0 and 59 then where do you get the number 681234? It's not between 0 and 59 or 90 or 180! I understand latitude and longitude, but I don't understand this number format. Is there someone who can put it in 6th grade math terms? Split it up - 68 degrees 12 minutes 34 seconds. -- Regards, Mike Fry Johannesburg. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Version 7 Lat/Long format
Dede, 681234.293 is 68 deg 12 min 34 sec (the .293 is a refinement calibration for the seconds) Therefore the seconds component is actually 34.293 Kind Regards, Mark > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dede > Holden > Sent: Sunday, 15 June 2008 6:31 AM > To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com > Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Version 7 Lat/Long format > > Jenny and Jon, > > I must be a math/geognoramus. Here's a quote taken from the Help file > in Legacy. > > "The latitude and longitude must be in the form of degrees, minutes > and seconds. The degrees must be between 0 and 90, if a latitude, and > between 0 and 180, if a longitude. The minutes and seconds must be > between 0 and 59. The seconds can have up to three decimal places > after it. e.g. 681234.293." > > If the degrees must be between 0 and 90 or (0 and 180 for longitude), > and the minutes and seconds must be between 0 and 59 then where do > you get the number 681234? It's not between 0 and 59 or 90 or 180! > > I understand latitude and longitude, but I don't understand this > number format. Is there someone who can put it in 6th grade math > terms? > > Thanks! > Dede Holden > > On Fri, Jun 13, 2008 at 6:38 AM, Jenny M Benson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > John Gregson wrote > >> > >> What is the correct format when entering Lat/Long into Legacy? > >> I've checked the archives and the Help but can't find a simple > answer., > >> probably missed something. > > > > Tes, I think you have. > > > > In the Help Index, look for Latitude and Longitude and after you click > > Display select Latitude and Longitude again. Scroll down to the > paragraph > > in bold type which explains how Lat and Long must be expressed in > degrees, > > minutes and seconds. When you enter the Lat and Long there are > separate > > drop-downs for selecting N/s and E/W respectively. > > > > I found all the explanations of Lat & Long in the Help system very > useful, > > being as I am a geognoramus! > > -- > > Jenny M Benson > > > > > > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp > > Archived messages: > > http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ > > Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp > > To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp > > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: >http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp > Archived messages: >http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ > Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp > To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Version 7 Lat/Long format
And is that 68 degrees north or 68 degrees south? Either way, close to the pole! Elizabeth researching the descendants of William and Sarah (Patterson) Thompson - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2008 3:14 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Version 7 Lat/Long format 681234.293 = 68 degrees, 12 minutes, and 34.293 seconds. John Brockman -- "Dede Holden" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Jenny and Jon, I must be a math/geognoramus. Here's a quote taken from the Help file in Legacy. "The latitude and longitude must be in the form of degrees, minutes and seconds. The degrees must be between 0 and 90, if a latitude, and between 0 and 180, if a longitude. The minutes and seconds must be between 0 and 59. The seconds can have up to three decimal places after it. e.g. 681234.293." If the degrees must be between 0 and 90 or (0 and 180 for longitude), and the minutes and seconds must be between 0 and 59 then where do you get the number 681234? It's not between 0 and 59 or 90 or 180! I understand latitude and longitude, but I don't understand this number format. Is there someone who can put it in 6th grade math terms? Thanks! Dede Holden On Fri, Jun 13, 2008 at 6:38 AM, Jenny M Benson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: John Gregson wrote What is the correct format when entering Lat/Long into Legacy? I've checked the archives and the Help but can't find a simple answer., probably missed something. Tes, I think you have. In the Help Index, look for Latitude and Longitude and after you click Display select Latitude and Longitude again. Scroll down to the paragraph in bold type which explains how Lat and Long must be expressed in degrees, minutes and seconds. When you enter the Lat and Long there are separate drop-downs for selecting N/s and E/W respectively. I found all the explanations of Lat & Long in the Help system very useful, being as I am a geognoramus! -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Save up to 10% - 30% on Moving Supplies. Click here. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/Ioyw6i3oij8Yadds5EQwlH2YDD8dphWQ8ZWWVQYgPKATXpHjLNTh5K/ Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Version 7 Lat/Long format
Dede Holden wrote If the degrees must be between 0 and 90 or (0 and 180 for longitude), and the minutes and seconds must be between 0 and 59 then where do you get the number 681234? It's not between 0 and 59 or 90 or 180! If you look at the Add/Edit Master Location screen or at an address screen, you will see that above the Lat & Long fields it says DDMMSS.xxx and DDDMMSS.xxx. This is an indication of how the fields are to be filled in. In other words, for Longitude it is DegDegDegMinMinSecSec.decimaldecimaldecimal. In your example, the number 681234 equates to 68 degrees 12 minutes and 34 seconds with no decimal places. If your Latitude, say, was 1 degree 4 seconds and 2 minutes you would enter it as 010402. If you are entering a Lat or Long which does not include decimal places, you do not need to add the full stop and 000, you just enter the whole number. Hope that's clear! -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Version 7 Lat/Long format
681234.293 = 68 degrees, 12 minutes, and 34.293 seconds. John Brockman -- "Dede Holden" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Jenny and Jon, I must be a math/geognoramus. Here's a quote taken from the Help file in Legacy. "The latitude and longitude must be in the form of degrees, minutes and seconds. The degrees must be between 0 and 90, if a latitude, and between 0 and 180, if a longitude. The minutes and seconds must be between 0 and 59. The seconds can have up to three decimal places after it. e.g. 681234.293." If the degrees must be between 0 and 90 or (0 and 180 for longitude), and the minutes and seconds must be between 0 and 59 then where do you get the number 681234? It's not between 0 and 59 or 90 or 180! I understand latitude and longitude, but I don't understand this number format. Is there someone who can put it in 6th grade math terms? Thanks! Dede Holden On Fri, Jun 13, 2008 at 6:38 AM, Jenny M Benson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > John Gregson wrote >> >> What is the correct format when entering Lat/Long into Legacy? >> I've checked the archives and the Help but can't find a simple answer., >> probably missed something. > > Tes, I think you have. > > In the Help Index, look for Latitude and Longitude and after you click > Display select Latitude and Longitude again. Scroll down to the paragraph > in bold type which explains how Lat and Long must be expressed in degrees, > minutes and seconds. When you enter the Lat and Long there are separate > drop-downs for selecting N/s and E/W respectively. > > I found all the explanations of Lat & Long in the Help system very useful, > being as I am a geognoramus! > -- > Jenny M Benson > > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp > Archived messages: > http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ > Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp > To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Save up to 10% - 30% on Moving Supplies. Click here. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/Ioyw6i3oij8Yadds5EQwlH2YDD8dphWQ8ZWWVQYgPKATXpHjLNTh5K/ Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Version 7 Lat/Long format
Okay, I'm going to answer my own question. I went to the Locations window and clicked "Add." At the bottom of the screen, where you add latitude and longitude, I see the explanation of this lengthy number. Latitude = DDMMSS.xxx and Longitude = DDDMMSS.xxx So 681234.293 is 68 degrees, 12 minutes and 34.293 seconds. Now it makes sense. Dede On Sat, Jun 14, 2008 at 4:00 PM, Dede Holden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Jenny and Jon, > > I must be a math/geognoramus. Here's a quote taken from the Help file > in Legacy. > > "The latitude and longitude must be in the form of degrees, minutes > and seconds. The degrees must be between 0 and 90, if a latitude, and > between 0 and 180, if a longitude. The minutes and seconds must be > between 0 and 59. The seconds can have up to three decimal places > after it. e.g. 681234.293." > > If the degrees must be between 0 and 90 or (0 and 180 for longitude), > and the minutes and seconds must be between 0 and 59 then where do > you get the number 681234? It's not between 0 and 59 or 90 or 180! > > I understand latitude and longitude, but I don't understand this > number format. Is there someone who can put it in 6th grade math > terms? > > Thanks! > Dede Holden > > On Fri, Jun 13, 2008 at 6:38 AM, Jenny M Benson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> John Gregson wrote >>> >>> What is the correct format when entering Lat/Long into Legacy? >>> I've checked the archives and the Help but can't find a simple answer., >>> probably missed something. >> >> Tes, I think you have. >> >> In the Help Index, look for Latitude and Longitude and after you click >> Display select Latitude and Longitude again. Scroll down to the paragraph >> in bold type which explains how Lat and Long must be expressed in degrees, >> minutes and seconds. When you enter the Lat and Long there are separate >> drop-downs for selecting N/s and E/W respectively. >> >> I found all the explanations of Lat & Long in the Help system very useful, >> being as I am a geognoramus! >> -- >> Jenny M Benson >> >> >> >> Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp >> Archived messages: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ >> Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp >> To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Version 7 Lat/Long format
Jenny and Jon, I must be a math/geognoramus. Here's a quote taken from the Help file in Legacy. "The latitude and longitude must be in the form of degrees, minutes and seconds. The degrees must be between 0 and 90, if a latitude, and between 0 and 180, if a longitude. The minutes and seconds must be between 0 and 59. The seconds can have up to three decimal places after it. e.g. 681234.293." If the degrees must be between 0 and 90 or (0 and 180 for longitude), and the minutes and seconds must be between 0 and 59 then where do you get the number 681234? It's not between 0 and 59 or 90 or 180! I understand latitude and longitude, but I don't understand this number format. Is there someone who can put it in 6th grade math terms? Thanks! Dede Holden On Fri, Jun 13, 2008 at 6:38 AM, Jenny M Benson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > John Gregson wrote >> >> What is the correct format when entering Lat/Long into Legacy? >> I've checked the archives and the Help but can't find a simple answer., >> probably missed something. > > Tes, I think you have. > > In the Help Index, look for Latitude and Longitude and after you click > Display select Latitude and Longitude again. Scroll down to the paragraph > in bold type which explains how Lat and Long must be expressed in degrees, > minutes and seconds. When you enter the Lat and Long there are separate > drop-downs for selecting N/s and E/W respectively. > > I found all the explanations of Lat & Long in the Help system very useful, > being as I am a geognoramus! > -- > Jenny M Benson > > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp > Archived messages: > http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ > Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp > To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Version 7 Lat/Long format
John Gregson wrote What is the correct format when entering Lat/Long into Legacy? I've checked the archives and the Help but can't find a simple answer., probably missed something. Tes, I think you have. In the Help Index, look for Latitude and Longitude and after you click Display select Latitude and Longitude again. Scroll down to the paragraph in bold type which explains how Lat and Long must be expressed in degrees, minutes and seconds. When you enter the Lat and Long there are separate drop-downs for selecting N/s and E/W respectively. I found all the explanations of Lat & Long in the Help system very useful, being as I am a geognoramus! -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] Version 7 Lat/Long format
What is the correct format when entering Lat/Long into Legacy? I've checked the archives and the Help but can't find a simple answer., probably missed something. The format that I've used in the past (in TMG) is: Example -495300N0970900W John. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp