RE: [LegacyUG] Attached Files
Hi Gary, Two newby questions for you. When I am looking at your header, From: Sent: To: Subject: I am still confused as to how to find out what program is used. I have been wondering what my progam is so your comment was timely and will be useful. What is x-mailer? Where do I find it? Does Office XP have this feature? Next question: when I reply to this or any other e-mail from the mailing group, am I replying in plain text because your e-mail is plain test or must I attempt to reformat each reply as I send one? How would I do that? Helen -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gary Templeman Sent: Monday, July 30, 2007 7:40 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Attached Files If you ever want to know what program someone is using, simply look at the full header. The x-mailer will state the program. Pat is using Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138. Gary Templeman - Original Message - I don't know which email program you're using and how it works, but I know when I try to paste a graphic in a plain text message, it just won't happen! Thanks for using Legacy. Sherry Customer Support Millennia Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com Have you unlocked the real power of Legacy? Legacy 6.0 Deluxe has 92 features not found in the Standard Edition. Learn more about these features at http://legacyfamilytree.com/DeluxeEdition.asp. Legacy User Group guidelines can be found at: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp To find past messages, please go to our searchable archives at: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ For online technical support, please visit http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe please visit: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Have you unlocked the real power of Legacy? Legacy 6.0 Deluxe has 92 features not found in the Standard Edition. Learn more about these features at http://legacyfamilytree.com/DeluxeEdition.asp. Legacy User Group guidelines can be found at: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp To find past messages, please go to our searchable archives at: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ For online technical support, please visit http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe please visit: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Attached Files
Helen, For Plain Text in Outlook Express for *all* emails to a particular address eg LUG then go to the name in your address book and under the Name tab there is a check box which can be set to Plain Text Only. Ron Ferguson _ For Genealogy, Software and Social visit: http://www.fergys.co.uk *New Site, New Blog!* Create Legacy Web Pages Trilogy! View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ From: Helen Barton [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Attached Files Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2007 13:29:01 -0700 Hi Gary, Two newby questions for you. When I am looking at your header, From: Sent: To: Subject: I am still confused as to how to find out what program is used. I have been wondering what my progam is so your comment was timely and will be useful. What is x-mailer? Where do I find it? Does Office XP have this feature? Next question: when I reply to this or any other e-mail from the mailing group, am I replying in plain text because your e-mail is plain test or must I attempt to reformat each reply as I send one? How would I do that? Helen _ Got a favourite clothes shop, bar or restaurant? Share your local knowledge http://www.backofmyhand.com Have you unlocked the real power of Legacy? Legacy 6.0 Deluxe has 92 features not found in the Standard Edition. Learn more about these features at http://legacyfamilytree.com/DeluxeEdition.asp. Legacy User Group guidelines can be found at: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp To find past messages, please go to our searchable archives at: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ For online technical support, please visit http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe please visit: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Attached Files
Helen, Wendy and Jack already answered most of your questions. When any email is sent, it has to have routing information. Consider the full header sort of like a mailing address, return address, and information about what language and type of script is being used. Your full header looks like this: Received: from mail.legacyfamilytree.com ([209.139.208.142]) by sccrmxc19.comcast.net (sccrmxc19) with ESMTP id 20070731203146s1900iphjee; Tue, 31 Jul 2007 20:31:46 + X-Originating-IP: [209.139.208.142] Received: from sccrmhc12.comcast.net ([63.240.77.82]) by legacyfamilytree.com with MailEnable ESMTP; Tue, 31 Jul 2007 13:26:50 -0700 Received: from helen0q7qs9vnq (c-24-17-235-99.hsd1.mn.comcast.net[24.17.235.99]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc12) with SMTP id 2007073120285601200mu5fse; Tue, 31 Jul 2007 20:28:56 + From: Helen Barton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Attached Files Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2007 13:29:01 -0700 Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: AcfTIJEXNSbQsPhiTKKMuZhvqiEFvAAj4QSQ X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3138 In-reply-to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Precedence: list Reply-To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] As you can see, there is a lot of technical stuff that most people never need to worry about. Pertaining to your second question, you will need to refer to the help file for Outlook or top someone else on this list as I do not use Outlok and cannot give you specific information. In Outlook Express there are settings that control the format for sent messages for email and newsgroups, and there is an additional option to Reply to messages using the format in which they were sent. If I had that option checked, then even though messages *I* created would be in plain text, if I received an HTML message and clicked reply, it would stay as HTML. Gary - Original Message - From: Helen Barton To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2007 1:29 PM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Attached Files Hi Gary, Two newby questions for you. When I am looking at your header, From: Sent: To: Subject: I am still confused as to how to find out what program is used. I have been wondering what my progam is so your comment was timely and will be useful. What is x-mailer? Where do I find it? Does Office XP have this feature? Next question: when I reply to this or any other e-mail from the mailing group, am I replying in plain text because your e-mail is plain test or must I attempt to reformat each reply as I send one? How would I do that? Helen -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gary Templeman Sent: Monday, July 30, 2007 7:40 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Attached Files If you ever want to know what program someone is using, simply look at the full header. The x-mailer will state the program. Pat is using Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138. Gary Templeman - Original Message - I don't know which email program you're using and how it works, but I know when I try to paste a graphic in a plain text message, it just won't happen! Thanks for using Legacy. Sherry Customer Support Millennia Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com Have you unlocked the real power of Legacy? Legacy 6.0 Deluxe has 92 features not found in the Standard Edition. Learn more about these features at http://legacyfamilytree.com/DeluxeEdition.asp. Legacy User Group guidelines can be found at: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp To find past messages, please go to our searchable archives at: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ For online technical support, please visit http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe please visit: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Have you unlocked the real power of Legacy? Legacy 6.0 Deluxe has 92 features not found in the Standard Edition. Learn more about these features at http://legacyfamilytree.com/DeluxeEdition.asp. Legacy User Group guidelines can be found at: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp To find past messages, please go to our searchable archives at: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ For online technical support, please visit http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe please visit: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Have you unlocked the real power of Legacy? Legacy 6.0 Deluxe has 92 features not found in the Standard Edition. Learn more about these features at http
Re: [LegacyUG] Attached Files
My apologies to Don and the rest of the group. That was not an attachment that was included with my message but an INCORPORATED picture of the EVENT screen; incorpirated within the message to help people understand better what I was trying to describe. I had no idea that it would come across as an attachment or I would not have sent it. And yes, I had my email set as plain text. Mea culpa. Pat - Original Message - From: Don Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Legacy User Group LegacyUserGroup@LegacyFamilyTree.com Sent: Monday, July 30, 2007 11:01 AM Subject: [LegacyUG] Attached Files What is going on with the Group. I have always thought that sending attachments was a huge no-no for the group but lately there seems to be a rash of attachments appearing. I was under the impression that people that failed to adhere to the guidelines of etiquette were going to be unsubscribed without notice. Perhaps the people at Legacy can clear this point up for me so I can decide whether continue without attachments or unsubscribe if attachments are being allowed. Don In hot, humid Ontario, canada Have you unlocked the real power of Legacy? Legacy 6.0 Deluxe has 92 features not found in the Standard Edition. Learn more about these features at http://legacyfamilytree.com/DeluxeEdition.asp. Legacy User Group guidelines can be found at: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp To find past messages, please go to our searchable archives at: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ For online technical support, please visit http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe please visit: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Have you unlocked the real power of Legacy? Legacy 6.0 Deluxe has 92 features not found in the Standard Edition. Learn more about these features at http://legacyfamilytree.com/DeluxeEdition.asp. Legacy User Group guidelines can be found at: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp To find past messages, please go to our searchable archives at: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ For online technical support, please visit http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe please visit: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Attached Files
Pat I was not referring to you alone as last week there were two other postings with attachments. Any time you attach anything, picture, text file, html file or anything, it arrives at everyone's mail box as an attachment. You could put it on a web page and then include the web address in the email. Don -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Pat Jones Sent: Monday, July 30, 2007 12:16 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Attached Files My apologies to Don and the rest of the group. That was not an attachment that was included with my message but an INCORPORATED picture of the EVENT screen; incorpirated within the message to help people understand better what I was trying to describe. I had no idea that it would come across as an attachment or I would not have sent it. And yes, I had my email set as plain text. Mea culpa. Pat - Original Message - From: Don Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Legacy User Group LegacyUserGroup@LegacyFamilyTree.com Sent: Monday, July 30, 2007 11:01 AM Subject: [LegacyUG] Attached Files (snip) Have you unlocked the real power of Legacy? Legacy 6.0 Deluxe has 92 features not found in the Standard Edition. Learn more about these features at http://legacyfamilytree.com/DeluxeEdition.asp. Legacy User Group guidelines can be found at: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp To find past messages, please go to our searchable archives at: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ For online technical support, please visit http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe please visit: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Attached Files
Don, Attachments are not allowed, but unfortunately when we switched servers, we weren't given the option to remove attachments nor can we convert HTML to plain text (we ask that users not send message in HTML either). We just have to trust that the listers will follow the LUG guidelines. It would be helpful if every new subscriber - heck even the old ones - would go to our LUG Etiquette Guidelines and review them. There's a link at the bottom of every email. Thanks for using Legacy. Sherry Customer Support Millennia Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com We are changing the world of genealogy! When replying to this message, please include all previous correspondence. Thanks. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Don Brown Sent: Monday, July 30, 2007 9:01 AM To: Legacy User Group Subject: [LegacyUG] Attached Files What is going on with the Group. I have always thought that sending attachments was a huge no-no for the group but lately there seems to be a rash of attachments appearing. I was under the impression that people that failed to adhere to the guidelines of etiquette were going to be unsubscribed without notice. Perhaps the people at Legacy can clear this point up for me so I can decide whether continue without attachments or unsubscribe if attachments are being allowed. Don In hot, humid Ontario, canada Have you unlocked the real power of Legacy? Legacy 6.0 Deluxe has 92 features not found in the Standard Edition. Learn more about these features at http://legacyfamilytree.com/DeluxeEdition.asp. Legacy User Group guidelines can be found at: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp To find past messages, please go to our searchable archives at: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ For online technical support, please visit http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe please visit: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Attached Files
Don, and any other interested parties, Not to be hard-nosed, but there is a difference between included within a message and an attachment to a message. I was able to cut and paste a picture of the EVENTS screen INSIDE the message (not as an attachment to). In fact, if you take a good hard look at my message, you can see the gap where the picture was. There was NO attachment. Somehow, the software on the LUG interpreted the inserted picture as an attachment. I'll let you computer geniuses figure that one out. So Sherry, we might need to add this escapade to the Etiquette info. And as I said before, yes, I did make certain I was using Plain text. And now we know another quirk of the Users Group setup. 'Nug said. - Original Message - From: Don Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Monday, July 30, 2007 11:25 AM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Attached Files Pat I was not referring to you alone as last week there were two other postings with attachments. Any time you attach anything, picture, text file, html file or anything, it arrives at everyone's mail box as an attachment. You could put it on a web page and then include the web address in the email. Don -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Pat Jones Sent: Monday, July 30, 2007 12:16 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Attached Files My apologies to Don and the rest of the group. That was not an attachment that was included with my message but an INCORPORATED picture of the EVENT screen; incorpirated within the message to help people understand better what I was trying to describe. I had no idea that it would come across as an attachment or I would not have sent it. And yes, I had my email set as plain text. Mea culpa. Pat - Original Message - From: Don Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Legacy User Group LegacyUserGroup@LegacyFamilyTree.com Sent: Monday, July 30, 2007 11:01 AM Subject: [LegacyUG] Attached Files (snip) Have you unlocked the real power of Legacy? Legacy 6.0 Deluxe has 92 features not found in the Standard Edition. Learn more about these features at http://legacyfamilytree.com/DeluxeEdition.asp. Legacy User Group guidelines can be found at: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp To find past messages, please go to our searchable archives at: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ For online technical support, please visit http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe please visit: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Have you unlocked the real power of Legacy? Legacy 6.0 Deluxe has 92 features not found in the Standard Edition. Learn more about these features at http://legacyfamilytree.com/DeluxeEdition.asp. Legacy User Group guidelines can be found at: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp To find past messages, please go to our searchable archives at: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ For online technical support, please visit http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe please visit: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Attached Files
No there is not a difference. An image is interpretted as an attachment in plain text mail. This is the way the e-mail standard works. You attached a jpg. You can not include images in plain text mail. ASCII won't support it. Jim On 7/30/07, Pat Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Don, and any other interested parties, Not to be hard-nosed, but there is a difference between included within a message and an attachment to a message. I was able to cut and paste a picture of the EVENTS screen INSIDE the message (not as an attachment to). In fact, if you take a good hard look at my message, you can see the gap where the picture was. There was NO attachment. Somehow, the software on the LUG interpreted the inserted picture as an attachment. I'll let you computer geniuses figure that one out. So Sherry, we might need to add this escapade to the Etiquette info. And as I said before, yes, I did make certain I was using Plain text. And now we know another quirk of the Users Group setup. 'Nug said. - Original Message - From: Don Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Monday, July 30, 2007 11:25 AM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Attached Files Pat I was not referring to you alone as last week there were two other postings with attachments. Any time you attach anything, picture, text file, html file or anything, it arrives at everyone's mail box as an attachment. You could put it on a web page and then include the web address in the email. Don -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Pat Jones Sent: Monday, July 30, 2007 12:16 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Attached Files My apologies to Don and the rest of the group. That was not an attachment that was included with my message but an INCORPORATED picture of the EVENT screen; incorpirated within the message to help people understand better what I was trying to describe. I had no idea that it would come across as an attachment or I would not have sent it. And yes, I had my email set as plain text. Mea culpa. Pat - Original Message - From: Don Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Legacy User Group LegacyUserGroup@LegacyFamilyTree.com Sent: Monday, July 30, 2007 11:01 AM Subject: [LegacyUG] Attached Files (snip) Have you unlocked the real power of Legacy? Legacy 6.0 Deluxe has 92 features not found in the Standard Edition. Learn more about these features at http://legacyfamilytree.com/DeluxeEdition.asp. Legacy User Group guidelines can be found at: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp To find past messages, please go to our searchable archives at: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ For online technical support, please visit http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe please visit: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Have you unlocked the real power of Legacy? Legacy 6.0 Deluxe has 92 features not found in the Standard Edition. Learn more about these features at http://legacyfamilytree.com/DeluxeEdition.asp. Legacy User Group guidelines can be found at: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp To find past messages, please go to our searchable archives at: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ For online technical support, please visit http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe please visit: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Have you unlocked the real power of Legacy? Legacy 6.0 Deluxe has 92 features not found in the Standard Edition. Learn more about these features at http://legacyfamilytree.com/DeluxeEdition.asp. Legacy User Group guidelines can be found at: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp To find past messages, please go to our searchable archives at: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ For online technical support, please visit http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe please visit: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Attached Files
It always fascinates me that someone makes a mistake and people on the list complain so much that there is far more time and bandwidth wasted chastising them than the original message took up. Why can't folks just let Sherry deal with it offline. Marty McMahon [EMAIL PROTECTED] NOTE: All messages scanned for virus using Norton Antivirus prior to sending. Have you unlocked the real power of Legacy? Legacy 6.0 Deluxe has 92 features not found in the Standard Edition. Learn more about these features at http://legacyfamilytree.com/DeluxeEdition.asp. Legacy User Group guidelines can be found at: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp To find past messages, please go to our searchable archives at: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ For online technical support, please visit http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe please visit: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
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As far as I know attachments aren't allowed in Yahoo groups either - a matter of computer 'security. My thought would be if someone wanted an attachment sent to them - then it should be sent to their actual e-mail address instead of through the legacy group Pami Taylor ** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour Have you unlocked the real power of Legacy? Legacy 6.0 Deluxe has 92 features not found in the Standard Edition. Learn more about these features at http://legacyfamilytree.com/DeluxeEdition.asp. Legacy User Group guidelines can be found at: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp To find past messages, please go to our searchable archives at: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ For online technical support, please visit http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe please visit: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Attached Files
It depends on how the administrator sets the group up. Thanks for using Legacy. Sherry Customer Support Millennia Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com We are changing the world of genealogy! When replying to this message, please include all previous correspondence. Thanks. Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 30, 2007 6:48 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Attached Files As far as I know attachments aren't allowed in Yahoo groups either - a matter of computer 'security. My thought would be if someone wanted an attachment sent to them - then it should be sent to their actual e-mail address instead of through the legacy group Pami Taylor Have you unlocked the real power of Legacy? Legacy 6.0 Deluxe has 92 features not found in the Standard Edition. Learn more about these features at http://legacyfamilytree.com/DeluxeEdition.asp. Legacy User Group guidelines can be found at: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp To find past messages, please go to our searchable archives at: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ For online technical support, please visit http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe please visit: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
