Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy on Portable Hard Drive
This is not always an option... Some people have raided their hard drives which require 2 drives to operate as one. Others may be like me and use a laptop for all of my genealogy. I can't add another hard drive to my laptop. Sorry.. Deb - Original Message - From: G. C. Oliver [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Monday, May 12, 2008 5:54 PM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy on Portable Hard Drive I don't disagree with buying an external hard drive for backup. My first purchase (and cheapest) would be a 2nd internal hard drive for your computer. I have two hard drives on mine, the second holds all My documents with data files. G.C. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of DLevenick Sent: Monday, May 12, 2008 12:10 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Legacy on Portable Hard Drive Yesterday, in the midst of scanning multi-page tiff images I drew the dreaded message -- you are running out of hard disk space. Obviously, I have to do something for my image files. I plan to buy a portable hard disk to hold scanned images to use with my laptop. My question is. . . if I want to link these files to my Legacy individuals, should I put my Legacy files on the portable drive as well? Or, will it slow things down too much? Would I run the application itself from the portable, too; or, leave the app on my main C Drive, and just put the data on the portable? I should say that I am using these images with a database program, and also with Clooz. My current Legacy file is tiny, still in its infancy, and I plan to migrate to Version 7 as soon as possible. Any comments gratefully accepted, Denise -- Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy on Portable Hard Drive
If you really are running out of hard disk space, a portable hard drive is the least of your concerns. Your computer itself will start acting really flaky if you have less that 10% free space. Here are a few things you need to do ASAP. 1. Empty the Recycle Bin 2. Clear the Internet Explorer cache (in version 7 it is Tools_Internet Options_Browsing History - click delete, and then delete all (checking the box to also delete things from add-on programs) While in the options, also click the Settings button in Browsing History and reduce the size for the stored files to something reasonable like 60-90 MB. 3. Clear out the Windows temporary files Note: Much of the above can be automated. I like to use a program like CleanUp! found at http://www.stevengould.org/index.php , but do a custom cleanup and check the settings so you do not delete things you want to keep, such as newsgroup subscriptions. It will not change the storage options 4. Uninstall any programs you no longer need. 5. Clear out old, unused files from My Documents, My Music, etc. 6. Run the Windows disk cleanup utility, which will also compress some files so they take up less space. Start_Programs_Accessories_System Tools_Disk Cleanup. 7. Defragment the drive. Finally, consider having a computer tech clone your existing HD onto a bigger one, then reformat the old drive and move your multimedia files onto it, if there is room in the case for a second drive, or a portable one if not. I couldn't tell from your message if the computer in question is a laptop or if you *also* have a laptop. Gary Templeman - Original Message - From: DLevenick [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2008 9:09 PM Subject: [LegacyUG] Legacy on Portable Hard Drive Yesterday, in the midst of scanning multi-page tiff images I drew the dreaded message -- you are running out of hard disk space. Obviously, I have to do something for my image files. I plan to buy a portable hard disk to hold scanned images to use with my laptop. My question is. . . if I want to link these files to my Legacy individuals, should I put my Legacy files on the portable drive as well? Or, will it slow things down too much? Would I run the application itself from the portable, too; or, leave the app on my main C Drive, and just put the data on the portable? I should say that I am using these images with a database program, and also with Clooz. My current Legacy file is tiny, still in its infancy, and I plan to migrate to Version 7 as soon as possible. Any comments gratefully accepted, Denise -- Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy on Portable Hard Drive
Ugh, sounds like I really have a problem. I also discovered that my Mirra Personal Server has coincidentally (??) failed and is now a piece of scrap. It last backed up my files on Friday May 9, and the next day I scanned about 40 multi-tif documents. Truly, it is enough to make one become a Luddite. Thanks for the clear tips of how to limp along for now. My files are on a laptop, thus the plan for a portable hard drive. Maybe I should switch to a desktop? Denise -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gary Templeman Sent: Monday, May 12, 2008 8:43 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy on Portable Hard Drive If you really are running out of hard disk space, a portable hard drive is the least of your concerns. Your computer itself will start acting really flaky if you have less that 10% free space. Here are a few things you need to do ASAP. 1. Empty the Recycle Bin 2. Clear the Internet Explorer cache (in version 7 it is Tools_Internet Options_Browsing History - click delete, and then delete all (checking the box to also delete things from add-on programs) While in the options, also click the Settings button in Browsing History and reduce the size for the stored files to something reasonable like 60-90 MB. 3. Clear out the Windows temporary files Note: Much of the above can be automated. I like to use a program like CleanUp! found at http://www.stevengould.org/index.php , but do a custom cleanup and check the settings so you do not delete things you want to keep, such as newsgroup subscriptions. It will not change the storage options 4. Uninstall any programs you no longer need. 5. Clear out old, unused files from My Documents, My Music, etc. 6. Run the Windows disk cleanup utility, which will also compress some files so they take up less space. Start_Programs_Accessories_System Tools_Disk Cleanup. 7. Defragment the drive. Finally, consider having a computer tech clone your existing HD onto a bigger one, then reformat the old drive and move your multimedia files onto it, if there is room in the case for a second drive, or a portable one if not. I couldn't tell from your message if the computer in question is a laptop or if you *also* have a laptop. Gary Templeman - Original Message - From: DLevenick [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2008 9:09 PM Subject: [LegacyUG] Legacy on Portable Hard Drive Yesterday, in the midst of scanning multi-page tiff images I drew the dreaded message -- you are running out of hard disk space. Obviously, I have to do something for my image files. I plan to buy a portable hard disk to hold scanned images to use with my laptop. My question is. . . if I want to link these files to my Legacy individuals, should I put my Legacy files on the portable drive as well? Or, will it slow things down too much? Would I run the application itself from the portable, too; or, leave the app on my main C Drive, and just put the data on the portable? I should say that I am using these images with a database program, and also with Clooz. My current Legacy file is tiny, still in its infancy, and I plan to migrate to Version 7 as soon as possible. Any comments gratefully accepted, Denise -- Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy on Portable Hard Drive
Nope -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of JLB Sent: Monday, May 12, 2008 9:45 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy on Portable Hard Drive For a laptop? -- JL JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists http://www3.telus.net/Jgen/jlog.html G. C. Oliver wrote: I don't disagree with buying an external hard drive for backup. My first purchase (and cheapest) would be a 2nd internal hard drive for your computer. I have two hard drives on mine, the second holds all My documents with data files. G.C. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of DLevenick Sent: Monday, May 12, 2008 12:10 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Legacy on Portable Hard Drive Yesterday, in the midst of scanning multi-page tiff images I drew the dreaded message -- you are running out of hard disk space. Obviously, I have to do something for my image files. I plan to buy a portable hard disk to hold scanned images to use with my laptop. My question is. . . if I want to link these files to my Legacy individuals, should I put my Legacy files on the portable drive as well? Or, will it slow things down too much? Would I run the application itself from the portable, too; or, leave the app on my main C Drive, and just put the data on the portable? I should say that I am using these images with a database program, and also with Clooz. My current Legacy file is tiny, still in its infancy, and I plan to migrate to Version 7 as soon as possible. Any comments gratefully accepted, Denise -- Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy on Portable Hard Drive
For whatever my 2 cents is worth... I would NOT backup up my files to an internal hard disk drive. That is just asking for problems. Being in the IT industry for many years (more than I care to think about) I have seen people make some major mistakes and one of them is backing up files to an internal drive. It gives you a false sense of security. Always prepare for the worse type of disasterand then go from there. You may be playing it save by using a different drive to hold your backups, but if it is an internal drive it will not do you any good if the PC is stolen, caught in a fire, flood or other natural disasters. External drives are better only if you store them some place away from the PC...preferablyin a different location. You might want to consider taking the external hard disk drive to work or some other location that is away from your research PC. Flash Drives (Thumb Drives) are great if you get one of sufficient capacity to hold all your data. The prices of these little gems has dropped considerably in the last couple of year where one can purchase a 4GB Flash Drive for under $25. But to me the best and most reliable type of backup is using an on-line backup service (I use Carboniteat http://www.carbonite.com). The backup software works in the background and will backup your data religiously on a daily basis. You configure the backup on what files to backup the time to back them up and it does it, that simple. The service I use encrypts the data prior to transferring it to the backup service site. The cost is surprisingly cheap. Carboniteoffers backup services for under $50 per year. That is more than a flash drive, but less than an internal or external disk drive. They offer a 30 day free trial and you don''t have to use a credit card to try it. So how much is your research data worth to you? - Original Message From: Tim Rosenlof [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2008 11:34:35 AM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy on Portable Hard Drive Nope -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of JLB Sent: Monday, May 12, 2008 9:45 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy on Portable Hard Drive For a laptop? -- JL JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists http://www3.telus.net/Jgen/jlog.html G. C. Oliver wrote: I don't disagree with buying an external hard drive for backup. My first purchase (and cheapest) would be a 2nd internal hard drive for your computer. I have two hard drives on mine, the second holds all My documents with data files. G.C. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of DLevenick Sent: Monday, May 12, 2008 12:10 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Legacy on Portable Hard Drive Yesterday, in the midst of scanning multi-page tiff images I drew the dreaded message -- you are running out of hard disk space. Obviously, I have to do something for my image files. I plan to buy a portable hard disk to hold scanned images to use with my laptop. My question is. . . if I want to link these files to my Legacy individuals, should I put my Legacy files on the portable drive as well? Or, will it slow things down too much? Would I run the application itself from the portable, too; or, leave the app on my main C Drive, and just put the data on the portable? I should say that I am using these images with a database program, and also with Clooz. My current Legacy file is tiny, still in its infancy, and I plan to migrate to Version 7 as soon as possible. Any comments gratefully accepted, Denise -- Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com
RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy on Portable Hard Drive
I thought it was a desktop she was having trouble with. My mistake, obviously you cannot add another harddrive to a laptop. G.C. Tim Rosenlof [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nope -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of JLB Sent: Monday, May 12, 2008 9:45 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy on Portable Hard Drive For a laptop? -- JL JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists http://www3.telus.net/Jgen/jlog.html G. C. Oliver wrote: I don't disagree with buying an external hard drive for backup. My first purchase (and cheapest) would be a 2nd internal hard drive for your computer. I have two hard drives on mine, the second holds all My documents with data files. G.C. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of DLevenick Sent: Monday, May 12, 2008 12:10 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Legacy on Portable Hard Drive Yesterday, in the midst of scanning multi-page tiff images I drew the dreaded message -- you are running out of hard disk space. Obviously, I have to do something for my image files. I plan to buy a portable hard disk to hold scanned images to use with my laptop. My question is. . . if I want to link these files to my Legacy individuals, should I put my Legacy files on the portable drive as well? Or, will it slow things down too much? Would I run the application itself from the portable, too; or, leave the app on my main C Drive, and just put the data on the portable? I should say that I am using these images with a database program, and also with Clooz. My current Legacy file is tiny, still in its infancy, and I plan to migrate to Version 7 as soon as possible. Any comments gratefully accepted, Denise -- Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy on Portable Hard Drive
Also to consider with truly portable hard drives (the new ones that power from your computer instead of plugging into the wall) is that they require TWO USB ports to obtain enough power on most laptops. That said I have two portables the traditional plug into the wall type and a new Power from Computer type. Makes a great backup drive. I keep all my files backed up on it and purchased an USB double cable on eBay to keep in my car and I just slip the drive in my pocket when heading to the library. The file access is no different than my computer at home. After Ver. 7 arrives, it would be awesome for the developers to put some attention to a portable version of Legacy even if it had limited features. Roberta Wunder -Original Message- I plan to buy a portable hard disk to hold scanned images to use with my laptop. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy on Portable Hard Drive
Before buying anything, check whether your scanner creates temptorary files during scanning and never deletes them. I've used a Visioneer One Touch scanner that creates a 25MB or larger temporary file in C:\Documents and Settings\your-user-id\Local Settings\Temp\OneTouch for each page scanned - but *never* deletes them. This will rapidly fill a hard drive - 50 scanned pages * 25MB/page = 1.25GB in temp files, plus the size of the files you named and saved. Remember that each new version of almost any software needs more disk space than the previous version - all those great new features add to the size of the program. Upgrading to Legacy 7 will have some cost in disk space. If you're using a desktop PC, then get another hard drive installed. 500GB drives are in the $100US range. If you're not comfortable opening the case on your PC, have a computer savvy friend do it and buy him/her a nice lunch. If you're using a laptop, an external drive is usually the easiest option. If it's an older laptop with USB 1.X ports (instead of the newer USB 2.0), the external drive will be much slower than the internal drive. With USB 2.0 ports, you won't see much difference in the speed of the external drive. However, I would suggest using the external drive for storing pictures, not the basic Legacy data. John Yesterday, in the midst of scanning multi-page tiff images I drew the dreaded message -- you are running out of hard disk space. Obviously, I have to do something for my image files. I plan to buy a portable hard disk to hold scanned images to use with my laptop. My question is. . . if I want to link these files to my Legacy individuals, should I put my Legacy files on the portable drive as well? Or, will it slow things down too much? Would I run the application itself from the portable, too; or, leave the app on my main C Drive, and just put the data on the portable? I should say that I am using these images with a database program, and also with Clooz. My current Legacy file is tiny, still in its infancy, and I plan to migrate to Version 7 as soon as possible. Any comments gratefully accepted, Denise -- Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy on Portable Hard Drive
I've never had that problem. Just the scanned ones are saved. I've used a cannon portable scanner (Awesome for places that have no power close by)and also have a epson visioneer. Niether does what you claim. -Tim -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Carter Sent: Monday, May 12, 2008 7:18 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy on Portable Hard Drive Before buying anything, check whether your scanner creates temptorary files during scanning and never deletes them. I've used a Visioneer One Touch scanner that creates a 25MB or larger temporary file in C:\Documents and Settings\your-user-id\Local Settings\Temp\OneTouch for each page scanned - but *never* deletes them. This will rapidly fill a hard drive - 50 scanned pages * 25MB/page = 1.25GB in temp files, plus the size of the files you named and saved. Remember that each new version of almost any software needs more disk space than the previous version - all those great new features add to the size of the program. Upgrading to Legacy 7 will have some cost in disk space. If you're using a desktop PC, then get another hard drive installed. 500GB drives are in the $100US range. If you're not comfortable opening the case on your PC, have a computer savvy friend do it and buy him/her a nice lunch. If you're using a laptop, an external drive is usually the easiest option. If it's an older laptop with USB 1.X ports (instead of the newer USB 2.0), the external drive will be much slower than the internal drive. With USB 2.0 ports, you won't see much difference in the speed of the external drive. However, I would suggest using the external drive for storing pictures, not the basic Legacy data. John Yesterday, in the midst of scanning multi-page tiff images I drew the dreaded message -- you are running out of hard disk space. Obviously, I have to do something for my image files. I plan to buy a portable hard disk to hold scanned images to use with my laptop. My question is. . . if I want to link these files to my Legacy individuals, should I put my Legacy files on the portable drive as well? Or, will it slow things down too much? Would I run the application itself from the portable, too; or, leave the app on my main C Drive, and just put the data on the portable? I should say that I am using these images with a database program, and also with Clooz. My current Legacy file is tiny, still in its infancy, and I plan to migrate to Version 7 as soon as possible. Any comments gratefully accepted, Denise -- Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy on Portable Hard Drive
Thanks, John, for the tip on temp files. I will check it out. I am using a newer Dell laptop, so I think a Portable Drive will be my best bet. I don't know if I have the stamina to complete this project, however, it is very time-consuming. I am making multi-tiff files for archiving purposes, then jpg for sharing. Next week my high school students will be transcribing the letters as part of a spring special project -- I am calling it Reading Women's Lives as the letters were to/from my gmother's family. Should be very exciting. Denise Before buying anything, check whether your scanner creates temptorary files during scanning and never deletes them. I've used a Visioneer One Touch scanner that creates a 25MB or larger temporary file in C:\Documents and Settings\your-user-id\Local Settings\Temp\OneTouch for each page scanned - but *never* deletes them. This will rapidly fill a hard drive - 50 scanned pages * 25MB/page = 1.25GB in temp files, plus the size of the files you named and saved. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy on Portable Hard Drive
Here's my take on this.. 1) get 2 external drives. Download the latest version of Legacy to the hard drives. Intellishare mark you data files. Copy all photos, scanned document files and files etc to the hard drives. Continue to keep the data on the computer, but update to the hard drives. That way, If you are visiting family, you can plug your hard drive into their computer, temporarily install Legacy on their computer and have access to all of your data. Be sure to uninstall the program before you leave. - Original Message - From: John Carter [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Monday, May 12, 2008 9:18 AM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy on Portable Hard Drive Before buying anything, check whether your scanner creates temptorary files during scanning and never deletes them. I've used a Visioneer One Touch scanner that creates a 25MB or larger temporary file in C:\Documents and Settings\your-user-id\Local Settings\Temp\OneTouch for each page scanned - but *never* deletes them. This will rapidly fill a hard drive - 50 scanned pages * 25MB/page = 1.25GB in temp files, plus the size of the files you named and saved. Remember that each new version of almost any software needs more disk space than the previous version - all those great new features add to the size of the program. Upgrading to Legacy 7 will have some cost in disk space. If you're using a desktop PC, then get another hard drive installed. 500GB drives are in the $100US range. If you're not comfortable opening the case on your PC, have a computer savvy friend do it and buy him/her a nice lunch. If you're using a laptop, an external drive is usually the easiest option. If it's an older laptop with USB 1.X ports (instead of the newer USB 2.0), the external drive will be much slower than the internal drive. With USB 2.0 ports, you won't see much difference in the speed of the external drive. However, I would suggest using the external drive for storing pictures, not the basic Legacy data. John Yesterday, in the midst of scanning multi-page tiff images I drew the dreaded message -- you are running out of hard disk space. Obviously, I have to do something for my image files. I plan to buy a portable hard disk to hold scanned images to use with my laptop. My question is. . . if I want to link these files to my Legacy individuals, should I put my Legacy files on the portable drive as well? Or, will it slow things down too much? Would I run the application itself from the portable, too; or, leave the app on my main C Drive, and just put the data on the portable? I should say that I am using these images with a database program, and also with Clooz. My current Legacy file is tiny, still in its infancy, and I plan to migrate to Version 7 as soon as possible. Any comments gratefully accepted, Denise -- Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy on Portable Hard Drive
Tim Rosenlof wrote: I've never had that problem. Just the scanned ones are saved. I've used a cannon portable scanner (Awesome for places that have no power close by)and also have a epson visioneer. Niether does what you claim. -Tim My Lexmark does. -- Gene Y. n2kvs Researching Young, Zies, Harer Cox with Legacy Family Tree http://h1.ripway.com/egptech/ Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy on Portable Hard Drive
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy on Portable Hard Drive You can get a pcmcia card with 2 usb 2.0 ports for those with 1.1 -Tim If you're using a laptop, an external drive is usually the easiest option. If it's an older laptop with USB 1.X ports (instead of the newer USB 2.0), the external drive will be much slower than the internal drive. With USB 2.0 ports, you won't see much difference in the speed of the external drive. However, I would suggest using the external drive for storing pictures, not the basic Legacy data. John Yesterday, in the midst of scanning multi-page tiff images I drew the dreaded message -- you are running out of hard disk space. Obviously, I have to do something for my image files. I plan to buy a portable hard disk to hold scanned images to use with my laptop. My question is. . . if I want to link these files to my Legacy individuals, should I put my Legacy files on the portable drive as well? Or, will it slow things down too much? Would I run the application itself from the portable, too; or, leave the app on my main C Drive, and just put the data on the portable? I should say that I am using these images with a database program, and also with Clooz. My current Legacy file is tiny, still in its infancy, and I plan to migrate to Version 7 as soon as possible. Any comments gratefully accepted, Denise -- Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy on Portable Hard Drive
I don't disagree with buying an external hard drive for backup. My first purchase (and cheapest) would be a 2nd internal hard drive for your computer. I have two hard drives on mine, the second holds all My documents with data files. G.C. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of DLevenick Sent: Monday, May 12, 2008 12:10 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Legacy on Portable Hard Drive Yesterday, in the midst of scanning multi-page tiff images I drew the dreaded message -- you are running out of hard disk space. Obviously, I have to do something for my image files. I plan to buy a portable hard disk to hold scanned images to use with my laptop. My question is. . . if I want to link these files to my Legacy individuals, should I put my Legacy files on the portable drive as well? Or, will it slow things down too much? Would I run the application itself from the portable, too; or, leave the app on my main C Drive, and just put the data on the portable? I should say that I am using these images with a database program, and also with Clooz. My current Legacy file is tiny, still in its infancy, and I plan to migrate to Version 7 as soon as possible. Any comments gratefully accepted, Denise -- Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy on Portable Hard Drive
For a laptop? -- JL JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists http://www3.telus.net/Jgen/jlog.html G. C. Oliver wrote: I don't disagree with buying an external hard drive for backup. My first purchase (and cheapest) would be a 2nd internal hard drive for your computer. I have two hard drives on mine, the second holds all My documents with data files. G.C. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of DLevenick Sent: Monday, May 12, 2008 12:10 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Legacy on Portable Hard Drive Yesterday, in the midst of scanning multi-page tiff images I drew the dreaded message -- you are running out of hard disk space. Obviously, I have to do something for my image files. I plan to buy a portable hard disk to hold scanned images to use with my laptop. My question is. . . if I want to link these files to my Legacy individuals, should I put my Legacy files on the portable drive as well? Or, will it slow things down too much? Would I run the application itself from the portable, too; or, leave the app on my main C Drive, and just put the data on the portable? I should say that I am using these images with a database program, and also with Clooz. My current Legacy file is tiny, still in its infancy, and I plan to migrate to Version 7 as soon as possible. Any comments gratefully accepted, Denise -- Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy on Portable Hard Drive
You can store images on whatever drive you want to. As long as it's plugged into your computer the images will link up to where you want them same as if they were on your C-drive. I would suggest having a second copy though, not just counting on one external hard-drive. One other suggestion. If you're plugging into a laptop, you may have to plug directly, not through a hub, in order to have enough power. Can your laptop handle this? To your second question: Unless you're running specifically portable applications, you have to have your programs installed on your C-drive. -- JL JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists http://www3.telus.net/Jgen/jlog.html DLevenick wrote: Yesterday, in the midst of scanning multi-page tiff images I drew the dreaded message -- you are running out of hard disk space. Obviously, I have to do something for my image files. I plan to buy a portable hard disk to hold scanned images to use with my laptop. My question is. . . if I want to link these files to my Legacy individuals, should I put my Legacy files on the portable drive as well? Or, will it slow things down too much? Would I run the application itself from the portable, too; or, leave the app on my main C Drive, and just put the data on the portable? I should say that I am using these images with a database program, and also with Clooz. My current Legacy file is tiny, still in its infancy, and I plan to migrate to Version 7 as soon as possible. Any comments gratefully accepted, Denise -- Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
