Re: [LegacyUG] Pictures -- sourcing, copying
So then, once the photo is in your family file, what do you do to see the source of the photo? -- Pat - Original Message - From: RICHARD SCHULTHIES [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Monday, September 24, 2007 9:29 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Pictures -- sourcing, copying I don't know why it doesn't work. I have done it. I will explain what I have done exactly. I have a photocopy of a census record. I originally added to my ggrandfather, since he is on it. I also added the same photo to each of the family members there. I then called up the Edit Master Source Definition, for the same census, clicked on the picture field on the above screen. By finding the photo in the directory tree, I added the same photo to the source. But I don't do this much since I have some census records where up to 150 family members are consecutively on the same pages, so too many photos for the same source. But this is how I do it. If you are refering to the citation added to the source, any such addition is added to EVERYONE using the source. I add the citation to the Assigned sources for the person with the variations of the same source in the detail. For example, I have books that mention 2000 of my family members. The details sections gives each persons' page numbers and some quotes as needed. I hope this clears up the mud a little. Rich in LA CA --- Pat Hickin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, I know how to do that. I just don't know how to attach to the image a citation that will show up in the Master Source List -- and as everyone has pointed out, it's not possible to do that. I'd like to know WHY!! -- Pat - Original Message - From: ronald ferguson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Monday, September 24, 2007 2:46 PM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Pictures -- sourcing, copying Pat, To display a picture in the Family View click the photo-frame icon and add it to the Gallery for that person. When it's in the Gallery and highlighted click the asterix. You may only display one. It is not possible to Display a picture attached to a source in the Family View unless you enter it twice - once in the Source and once in the Gallery. Ron Ferguson _ For Genealogy, Software and Social visit: http://www.fergys.co.uk *Over 650 Surnames from 11 Countries* View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Pictures -- sourcing, copying Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2007 13:23:47 -0400 OK, Let's say I have a photo of my grandfather that I want to appear in the Family View, on charts, etc. Is there a way to do that thru attaching it to a SOURCE??? I understand why attaching a picture to a source can be a good thing, but I absolutely do not understand why we can't attach a source to an image. -- Pat - Original Message - From: Brian/Support To: Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2007 11:31 AM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Pictures -- sourcing, copying Pat, 1. If I read the original question correctly you wanted to connect a source to a picture. Legacy does not have that feature. 2. Ron explained how you can attach a picture to a source. In fact the pictures can be attached to a Master Source and a different picture can be attached to the source detail linked to a person. Those pictures can be included in reports as part of the source list at the end of the report. Open the report options and select the sources tab to turn on source and source detail pictures. _ Celeb spotting - Play CelebMashup and win cool prizes https://www.celebmashup.com Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http
Re: [LegacyUG] Pictures -- sourcing, copying
I suppose you could create an event called Photo or Image, describe it and add the photo to the detail. Perhaps then for the master source you could just add Image- at the beginning of the Source List name for each of the master sources that has one or more photos attached. (And also keep the name minus the Image- prefix for other citations.) Pat - Original Message - From: RICHARD SCHULTHIES [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Monday, September 24, 2007 9:29 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Pictures -- sourcing, copying I don't know why it doesn't work. I have done it. I will explain what I have done exactly. I have a photocopy of a census record. I originally added to my ggrandfather, since he is on it. I also added the same photo to each of the family members there. I then called up the Edit Master Source Definition, for the same census, clicked on the picture field on the above screen. By finding the photo in the directory tree, I added the same photo to the source. But I don't do this much since I have some census records where up to 150 family members are consecutively on the same pages, so too many photos for the same source. But this is how I do it. If you are refering to the citation added to the source, any such addition is added to EVERYONE using the source. I add the citation to the Assigned sources for the person with the variations of the same source in the detail. For example, I have books that mention 2000 of my family members. The details sections gives each persons' page numbers and some quotes as needed. I hope this clears up the mud a little. Rich in LA CA --- Pat Hickin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, I know how to do that. I just don't know how to attach to the image a citation that will show up in the Master Source List -- and as everyone has pointed out, it's not possible to do that. I'd like to know WHY!! -- Pat - Original Message - From: ronald ferguson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Monday, September 24, 2007 2:46 PM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Pictures -- sourcing, copying Pat, To display a picture in the Family View click the photo-frame icon and add it to the Gallery for that person. When it's in the Gallery and highlighted click the asterix. You may only display one. It is not possible to Display a picture attached to a source in the Family View unless you enter it twice - once in the Source and once in the Gallery. Ron Ferguson _ For Genealogy, Software and Social visit: http://www.fergys.co.uk *Over 650 Surnames from 11 Countries* View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Pictures -- sourcing, copying Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2007 13:23:47 -0400 OK, Let's say I have a photo of my grandfather that I want to appear in the Family View, on charts, etc. Is there a way to do that thru attaching it to a SOURCE??? I understand why attaching a picture to a source can be a good thing, but I absolutely do not understand why we can't attach a source to an image. -- Pat - Original Message - From: Brian/Support To: Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2007 11:31 AM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Pictures -- sourcing, copying Pat, 1. If I read the original question correctly you wanted to connect a source to a picture. Legacy does not have that feature. 2. Ron explained how you can attach a picture to a source. In fact the pictures can be attached to a Master Source and a different picture can be attached to the source detail linked to a person. Those pictures can be included in reports as part of the source list at the end of the report. Open the report options and select the sources tab to turn on source and source detail pictures. _ Celeb spotting - Play CelebMashup and win cool prizes https://www.celebmashup.com Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup
RE: [LegacyUG] Pictures -- sourcing, copying
I put the Details and the Source in the Description, and when I click on the photo, the quick look box pops up with the data that I have entered in the description. Otherwise I click on the family photo icon and view the gallery photo's for other pictures and descriptions -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Pat Hickin Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2007 5:59 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Pictures -- sourcing, copying So then, once the photo is in your family file, what do you do to see the source of the photo? -- Pat - Original Message - From: RICHARD SCHULTHIES [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Monday, September 24, 2007 9:29 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Pictures -- sourcing, copying I don't know why it doesn't work. I have done it. I will explain what I have done exactly. I have a photocopy of a census record. I originally added to my ggrandfather, since he is on it. I also added the same photo to each of the family members there. I then called up the Edit Master Source Definition, for the same census, clicked on the picture field on the above screen. By finding the photo in the directory tree, I added the same photo to the source. But I don't do this much since I have some census records where up to 150 family members are consecutively on the same pages, so too many photos for the same source. But this is how I do it. If you are refering to the citation added to the source, any such addition is added to EVERYONE using the source. I add the citation to the Assigned sources for the person with the variations of the same source in the detail. For example, I have books that mention 2000 of my family members. The details sections gives each persons' page numbers and some quotes as needed. I hope this clears up the mud a little. Rich in LA CA --- Pat Hickin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, I know how to do that. I just don't know how to attach to the image a citation that will show up in the Master Source List -- and as everyone has pointed out, it's not possible to do that. I'd like to know WHY!! -- Pat - Original Message - From: ronald ferguson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Monday, September 24, 2007 2:46 PM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Pictures -- sourcing, copying Pat, To display a picture in the Family View click the photo-frame icon and add it to the Gallery for that person. When it's in the Gallery and highlighted click the asterix. You may only display one. It is not possible to Display a picture attached to a source in the Family View unless you enter it twice - once in the Source and once in the Gallery. Ron Ferguson _ For Genealogy, Software and Social visit: http://www.fergys.co.uk *Over 650 Surnames from 11 Countries* View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Pictures -- sourcing, copying Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2007 13:23:47 -0400 OK, Let's say I have a photo of my grandfather that I want to appear in the Family View, on charts, etc. Is there a way to do that thru attaching it to a SOURCE??? I understand why attaching a picture to a source can be a good thing, but I absolutely do not understand why we can't attach a source to an image. -- Pat - Original Message - From: Brian/Support To: Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2007 11:31 AM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Pictures -- sourcing, copying Pat, 1. If I read the original question correctly you wanted to connect a source to a picture. Legacy does not have that feature. 2. Ron explained how you can attach a picture to a source. In fact the pictures can be attached to a Master Source and a different picture can be attached to the source detail linked to a person. Those pictures can be included in reports as part of the source list at the end of the report. Open the report options and select the sources tab to turn on source and source detail pictures. _ Celeb spotting - Play CelebMashup and win cool prizes https://www.celebmashup.com Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived
Re: [LegacyUG] Pictures -- sourcing, copying
The issue I was talking about is the ability or lack of same to apply source citations to pictures in Legacy. If there's any capability for citations in Legacy Charting, I don't know about it. -- Pat - Original Message - From: RICHARD SCHULTHIES [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Monday, September 24, 2007 10:02 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Pictures -- sourcing, copying If you have Beta, and others don't, that group discusses this stuff on the separate list running for the fixing of the program. I don't have it and didn't want it. Rich in LA CA --- Pat Hickin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, I have photos in the Picture Gallery, and have starred the ones I want to show. The charts I'm talking about the ones available in the Legacy Charting Beta program and that will be added to Legacy 7, if I understand things correctly. -- Pat - Original Message - From: RICHARD SCHULTHIES [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Monday, September 24, 2007 9:07 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Pictures -- sourcing, copying Have you put the photo in the Picture Gallery? What charts are we talking about? Some of the reports do not allow photos. Most of the 'charts' in Legacy are blank forms for printing and hand filling in. Print outs with data in then are called reports (most of the time). When they are added to the Gallery, and choosen as the preferred one, and you have to then look to the reports, the photos should show up. Each report style has a place to choose yes/no print things. But one photo must be there before the program gives you choices. Why? I don't know. Rich in LA CA --- Pat Hickin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Richard wrote Add his photo to his individual page, then order the reports, choosing to display various photos. By reports, are you talking about charts?? This still doesn't explain how I'm to get an image from a source to display on the family page, pedigree chart etc. What am I missing?? Richard wrote Not sure what you are actually looking to do. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Pictures -- sourcing, copying
Pat, 1. If I read the original question correctly you wanted to connect a source to a picture. Legacy does not have that feature. 2. Ron explained how you can attach a picture to a source. In fact the pictures can be attached to a Master Source and a different picture can be attached to the source detail linked to a person. Those pictures can be included in reports as part of the source list at the end of the report. Open the report options and select the sources tab to turn on source and source detail pictures. Brian Customer Support Legacy Family Tree www.legacyfamilytree.com I will be on the Legacy Cruise from 19 Sep - 2 Oct with very limited access to the internet. I will respond to your questions as soon as possible after our return. For self help with common problems check our website at http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp You will find many hints and tips on using Legacy on this page: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Tips.asp. Pat Hickin wrote: 2) This question rather puzzles me. On the Source Clipboard there is a Picture Icon, clicking that enables you to attach a picture(s) which stay attached when the Sourced is linked to somebody else. Thanks, Ron, for your response. But if the picture is just in the source, how does it appear in any sort of report?? Pat From: Pat Hickin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Pictures -- sourcing, copying Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2007 15:45:47 -0400 1) I can't seem to find the place to give the sourcing info for the pictures. Sometimes I just stick it in under description but of course that doesn't get it into the Master Source List. 2) Also is there a way to copy picture, caption etc. to a clipboard in order to attach it to another individual, location or what have you? Am I blind to some things?? 3) And Does copying reduce the quality? -- Pat - Original Message - From: Phil Hawkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Monday, September 10, 2007 7:50 AM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Pictures Nancy Bender wrote: Phil, I don't know if you can do what you want from the individual's picture gallery, but you can do it from the Picture Center. When it the Picture Center for the individual in question, go to the tab on the far right that says Attached Pictures. Then in the box on the bottom of the center column select the picture you want to move. Under the view of the picture in the right hand column there are up and down arrows next to Order. By using those arrows you can move the pictures within an event or continue moving up or down into the event desired. Nancy Thanks That is just what I wanted regards -- Phil Hawkins (Rather be Fishing) Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Pictures -- sourcing, copying
OK, Let's say I have a photo of my grandfather that I want to appear in the Family View, on charts, etc. Is there a way to do that thru attaching it to a SOURCE??? I understand why attaching a picture to a source can be a good thing, but I absolutely do not understand why we can't attach a source to an image. -- Pat - Original Message - From: Brian/Support [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2007 11:31 AM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Pictures -- sourcing, copying Pat, 1. If I read the original question correctly you wanted to connect a source to a picture. Legacy does not have that feature. 2. Ron explained how you can attach a picture to a source. In fact the pictures can be attached to a Master Source and a different picture can be attached to the source detail linked to a person. Those pictures can be included in reports as part of the source list at the end of the report. Open the report options and select the sources tab to turn on source and source detail pictures. Brian Customer Support Legacy Family Tree www.legacyfamilytree.com I will be on the Legacy Cruise from 19 Sep - 2 Oct with very limited access to the internet. I will respond to your questions as soon as possible after our return. For self help with common problems check our website at http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp You will find many hints and tips on using Legacy on this page: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Tips.asp. Pat Hickin wrote: 2) This question rather puzzles me. On the Source Clipboard there is a Picture Icon, clicking that enables you to attach a picture(s) which stay attached when the Sourced is linked to somebody else. Thanks, Ron, for your response. But if the picture is just in the source, how does it appear in any sort of report?? Pat From: Pat Hickin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Pictures -- sourcing, copying Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2007 15:45:47 -0400 1) I can't seem to find the place to give the sourcing info for the pictures. Sometimes I just stick it in under description but of course that doesn't get it into the Master Source List. 2) Also is there a way to copy picture, caption etc. to a clipboard in order to attach it to another individual, location or what have you? Am I blind to some things?? 3) And Does copying reduce the quality? -- Pat - Original Message - From: Phil Hawkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Monday, September 10, 2007 7:50 AM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Pictures Nancy Bender wrote: Phil, I don't know if you can do what you want from the individual's picture gallery, but you can do it from the Picture Center. When it the Picture Center for the individual in question, go to the tab on the far right that says Attached Pictures. Then in the box on the bottom of the center column select the picture you want to move. Under the view of the picture in the right hand column there are up and down arrows next to Order. By using those arrows you can move the pictures within an event or continue moving up or down into the event desired. Nancy Thanks That is just what I wanted regards -- Phil Hawkins (Rather be Fishing) Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Pictures -- sourcing, copying
Pat, To display a picture in the Family View click the photo-frame icon and add it to the Gallery for that person. When it's in the Gallery and highlighted click the asterix. You may only display one. It is not possible to Display a picture attached to a source in the Family View unless you enter it twice - once in the Source and once in the Gallery. Ron Ferguson _ For Genealogy, Software and Social visit: http://www.fergys.co.uk *Over 650 Surnames from 11 Countries* View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Pictures -- sourcing, copying Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2007 13:23:47 -0400 OK, Let's say I have a photo of my grandfather that I want to appear in the Family View, on charts, etc. Is there a way to do that thru attaching it to a SOURCE??? I understand why attaching a picture to a source can be a good thing, but I absolutely do not understand why we can't attach a source to an image. -- Pat - Original Message - From: Brian/Support To: Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2007 11:31 AM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Pictures -- sourcing, copying Pat, 1. If I read the original question correctly you wanted to connect a source to a picture. Legacy does not have that feature. 2. Ron explained how you can attach a picture to a source. In fact the pictures can be attached to a Master Source and a different picture can be attached to the source detail linked to a person. Those pictures can be included in reports as part of the source list at the end of the report. Open the report options and select the sources tab to turn on source and source detail pictures. _ Celeb spotting – Play CelebMashup and win cool prizes https://www.celebmashup.com Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Pictures -- sourcing, copying
Yes, I know how to do that. I just don't know how to attach to the image a citation that will show up in the Master Source List -- and as everyone has pointed out, it's not possible to do that. I'd like to know WHY!! -- Pat - Original Message - From: ronald ferguson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Monday, September 24, 2007 2:46 PM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Pictures -- sourcing, copying Pat, To display a picture in the Family View click the photo-frame icon and add it to the Gallery for that person. When it's in the Gallery and highlighted click the asterix. You may only display one. It is not possible to Display a picture attached to a source in the Family View unless you enter it twice - once in the Source and once in the Gallery. Ron Ferguson _ For Genealogy, Software and Social visit: http://www.fergys.co.uk *Over 650 Surnames from 11 Countries* View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Pictures -- sourcing, copying Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2007 13:23:47 -0400 OK, Let's say I have a photo of my grandfather that I want to appear in the Family View, on charts, etc. Is there a way to do that thru attaching it to a SOURCE??? I understand why attaching a picture to a source can be a good thing, but I absolutely do not understand why we can't attach a source to an image. -- Pat - Original Message - From: Brian/Support To: Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2007 11:31 AM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Pictures -- sourcing, copying Pat, 1. If I read the original question correctly you wanted to connect a source to a picture. Legacy does not have that feature. 2. Ron explained how you can attach a picture to a source. In fact the pictures can be attached to a Master Source and a different picture can be attached to the source detail linked to a person. Those pictures can be included in reports as part of the source list at the end of the report. Open the report options and select the sources tab to turn on source and source detail pictures. _ Celeb spotting – Play CelebMashup and win cool prizes https://www.celebmashup.com Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Pictures -- sourcing, copying
Richard wrote Add his photo to his individual page, then order the reports, choosing to display various photos. By reports, are you talking about charts?? This still doesn't explain how I'm to get an image from a source to display on the family page, pedigree chart etc. What am I missing?? Richard wrote Not sure what you are actually looking to do. OK, I frequently save an online image and then use it in my family file. If I ever wanted to publish the, I'd want to get rid of many of these (or get permission to use them) because of copyright violations, but I don't have an easy way to search and eliminate these since there's no way to make a source citation. Besides, if you had a verbal description of a person, you could enter a source, right?? Don't books and magazines mostly give the sources of their photos? If someone doesn't WANT to include a source, no one is forcing them to do it. I have no objections to adding images to source, but I still don't know of ANY reason why we can't add a source for an image?? Unless it's a programming issue. But we can add text in the captions and descriptions. So if we can't add a source for the image for programming reasons, why can't we add a source for the caption or description?? -- Pat - Original Message - From: RICHARD SCHULTHIES [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Monday, September 24, 2007 2:48 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Pictures -- sourcing, copying Yes you can. But why. The program is set up to add photos to the persons file, then you can copy the location of the photo to as many different places as desired. Sources are for documenting data you have found. A photo of a person winning an award could be proof, and thus a source. Not sure what you are actually looking to do. Add his photo to his individual page, then order the reports, choosing to display various photos. Rich in LA CA --- Pat Hickin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK, Let's say I have a photo of my grandfather that I want to appear in the Family View, on charts, etc. Is there a way to do that thru attaching it to a SOURCE??? Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Pictures -- sourcing, copying
Have you put the photo in the Picture Gallery? What charts are we talking about? Some of the reports do not allow photos. Most of the 'charts' in Legacy are blank forms for printing and hand filling in. Print outs with data in then are called reports (most of the time). When they are added to the Gallery, and choosen as the preferred one, and you have to then look to the reports, the photos should show up. Each report style has a place to choose yes/no print things. But one photo must be there before the program gives you choices. Why? I don't know. Rich in LA CA --- Pat Hickin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Richard wrote Add his photo to his individual page, then order the reports, choosing to display various photos. By reports, are you talking about charts?? This still doesn't explain how I'm to get an image from a source to display on the family page, pedigree chart etc. What am I missing?? Richard wrote Not sure what you are actually looking to do. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Pictures -- sourcing, copying
Yes, I have photos in the Picture Gallery, and have starred the ones I want to show. The charts I'm talking about the ones available in the Legacy Charting Beta program and that will be added to Legacy 7, if I understand things correctly. -- Pat - Original Message - From: RICHARD SCHULTHIES [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Monday, September 24, 2007 9:07 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Pictures -- sourcing, copying Have you put the photo in the Picture Gallery? What charts are we talking about? Some of the reports do not allow photos. Most of the 'charts' in Legacy are blank forms for printing and hand filling in. Print outs with data in then are called reports (most of the time). When they are added to the Gallery, and choosen as the preferred one, and you have to then look to the reports, the photos should show up. Each report style has a place to choose yes/no print things. But one photo must be there before the program gives you choices. Why? I don't know. Rich in LA CA --- Pat Hickin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Richard wrote Add his photo to his individual page, then order the reports, choosing to display various photos. By reports, are you talking about charts?? This still doesn't explain how I'm to get an image from a source to display on the family page, pedigree chart etc. What am I missing?? Richard wrote Not sure what you are actually looking to do. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Pictures -- sourcing, copying
I don't know why it doesn't work. I have done it. I will explain what I have done exactly. I have a photocopy of a census record. I originally added to my ggrandfather, since he is on it. I also added the same photo to each of the family members there. I then called up the Edit Master Source Definition, for the same census, clicked on the picture field on the above screen. By finding the photo in the directory tree, I added the same photo to the source. But I don't do this much since I have some census records where up to 150 family members are consecutively on the same pages, so too many photos for the same source. But this is how I do it. If you are refering to the citation added to the source, any such addition is added to EVERYONE using the source. I add the citation to the Assigned sources for the person with the variations of the same source in the detail. For example, I have books that mention 2000 of my family members. The details sections gives each persons' page numbers and some quotes as needed. I hope this clears up the mud a little. Rich in LA CA --- Pat Hickin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, I know how to do that. I just don't know how to attach to the image a citation that will show up in the Master Source List -- and as everyone has pointed out, it's not possible to do that. I'd like to know WHY!! -- Pat - Original Message - From: ronald ferguson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Monday, September 24, 2007 2:46 PM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Pictures -- sourcing, copying Pat, To display a picture in the Family View click the photo-frame icon and add it to the Gallery for that person. When it's in the Gallery and highlighted click the asterix. You may only display one. It is not possible to Display a picture attached to a source in the Family View unless you enter it twice - once in the Source and once in the Gallery. Ron Ferguson _ For Genealogy, Software and Social visit: http://www.fergys.co.uk *Over 650 Surnames from 11 Countries* View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Pictures -- sourcing, copying Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2007 13:23:47 -0400 OK, Let's say I have a photo of my grandfather that I want to appear in the Family View, on charts, etc. Is there a way to do that thru attaching it to a SOURCE??? I understand why attaching a picture to a source can be a good thing, but I absolutely do not understand why we can't attach a source to an image. -- Pat - Original Message - From: Brian/Support To: Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2007 11:31 AM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Pictures -- sourcing, copying Pat, 1. If I read the original question correctly you wanted to connect a source to a picture. Legacy does not have that feature. 2. Ron explained how you can attach a picture to a source. In fact the pictures can be attached to a Master Source and a different picture can be attached to the source detail linked to a person. Those pictures can be included in reports as part of the source list at the end of the report. Open the report options and select the sources tab to turn on source and source detail pictures. _ Celeb spotting Play CelebMashup and win cool prizes https://www.celebmashup.com Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Pictures -- sourcing, copying
If you have Beta, and others don't, that group discusses this stuff on the separate list running for the fixing of the program. I don't have it and didn't want it. Rich in LA CA --- Pat Hickin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, I have photos in the Picture Gallery, and have starred the ones I want to show. The charts I'm talking about the ones available in the Legacy Charting Beta program and that will be added to Legacy 7, if I understand things correctly. -- Pat - Original Message - From: RICHARD SCHULTHIES [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Monday, September 24, 2007 9:07 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Pictures -- sourcing, copying Have you put the photo in the Picture Gallery? What charts are we talking about? Some of the reports do not allow photos. Most of the 'charts' in Legacy are blank forms for printing and hand filling in. Print outs with data in then are called reports (most of the time). When they are added to the Gallery, and choosen as the preferred one, and you have to then look to the reports, the photos should show up. Each report style has a place to choose yes/no print things. But one photo must be there before the program gives you choices. Why? I don't know. Rich in LA CA --- Pat Hickin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Richard wrote Add his photo to his individual page, then order the reports, choosing to display various photos. By reports, are you talking about charts?? This still doesn't explain how I'm to get an image from a source to display on the family page, pedigree chart etc. What am I missing?? Richard wrote Not sure what you are actually looking to do. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Pictures -- sourcing, copying
Hi Pat, Occasionally I'd like to be able to note the source of a picture as well. Currently I mainly include my source in the picture filename. eg all the photos I've scanned from my aunt's photo albums begin eva### where the ### is sequential numbers. Legacy currently doesn't have the ability to source a picture. It simply wasn't thought of by the programmers when they began. Legacy 6 included sourcing for other bits of information that were being stored by the program but weren't able to be sourced - like the never married During the last few years sourcing has been seen as more and more important. One of the reasons I swapped to Legacy years ago was the superior sourcing ability. The first genealogy computer program I used didn't have any provision for sources at all. Being able to source pictures is on the requested enhancements list. You could be very professional and use the IPTC embedded fields to record the data. This of course doesn't show in Legacy but does travel with the pic. Cathy At 06:13 AM 25/09/2007, you wrote: Yes, I know how to do that. I just don't know how to attach to the image a citation that will show up in the Master Source List -- and as everyone has pointed out, it's not possible to do that. I'd like to know WHY!! -- Pat Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Pictures -- sourcing, copying
2) This question rather puzzles me. On the Source Clipboard there is a Picture Icon, clicking that enables you to attach a picture(s) which stay attached when the Sourced is linked to somebody else. Thanks, Ron, for your response. But if the picture is just in the source, how does it appear in any sort of report?? Pat _ For Genealogy, Software and Social visit: http://www.fergys.co.uk *Over 650 Surnames from 11 Countries* View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ From: Pat Hickin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Pictures -- sourcing, copying Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2007 15:45:47 -0400 1) I can't seem to find the place to give the sourcing info for the pictures. Sometimes I just stick it in under description but of course that doesn't get it into the Master Source List. 2) Also is there a way to copy picture, caption etc. to a clipboard in order to attach it to another individual, location or what have you? Am I blind to some things?? 3) And Does copying reduce the quality? -- Pat - Original Message - From: Phil Hawkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Monday, September 10, 2007 7:50 AM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Pictures Nancy Bender wrote: Phil, I don't know if you can do what you want from the individual's picture gallery, but you can do it from the Picture Center. When it the Picture Center for the individual in question, go to the tab on the far right that says Attached Pictures. Then in the box on the bottom of the center column select the picture you want to move. Under the view of the picture in the right hand column there are up and down arrows next to Order. By using those arrows you can move the pictures within an event or continue moving up or down into the event desired. Nancy Thanks That is just what I wanted regards -- Phil Hawkins (Rather be Fishing) _ The next generation of Hotmail is here! http://www.newhotmail.co.uk Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Pictures -- sourcing, copying
1) I can't seem to find the place to give the sourcing info for the pictures. Sometimes I just stick it in under description but of course that doesn't get it into the Master Source List. 2) Also is there a way to copy picture, caption etc. to a clipboard in order to attach it to another individual, location or what have you? Am I blind to some things?? 3) And Does copying reduce the quality? -- Pat - Original Message - From: Phil Hawkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Monday, September 10, 2007 7:50 AM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Pictures Nancy Bender wrote: Phil, I don't know if you can do what you want from the individual's picture gallery, but you can do it from the Picture Center. When it the Picture Center for the individual in question, go to the tab on the far right that says Attached Pictures. Then in the box on the bottom of the center column select the picture you want to move. Under the view of the picture in the right hand column there are up and down arrows next to Order. By using those arrows you can move the pictures within an event or continue moving up or down into the event desired. Nancy Thanks That is just what I wanted regards -- Phil Hawkins (Rather be Fishing) Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Pictures -- sourcing, copying
If you use photoshop, you can put the sourcing in the info - if you pass the photo on to a fellow photoshop user, it will convey (I believe some other programs may read it, as well.) However, many people espouse the view that you should attach a source to the bottom of the photo, by extending the canvas and entering the full source in text. I have not done this, but am considering it - after I do the million and one other things that I need to do! Janis -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Pat Hickin Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 3:46 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Pictures -- sourcing, copying 1) I can't seem to find the place to give the sourcing info for the pictures. Sometimes I just stick it in under description but of course that doesn't get it into the Master Source List. 2) Also is there a way to copy picture, caption etc. to a clipboard in order to attach it to another individual, location or what have you? Am I blind to some things?? 3) And Does copying reduce the quality? -- Pat - Original Message - From: Phil Hawkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Monday, September 10, 2007 7:50 AM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Pictures Nancy Bender wrote: Phil, I don't know if you can do what you want from the individual's picture gallery, but you can do it from the Picture Center. When it the Picture Center for the individual in question, go to the tab on the far right that says Attached Pictures. Then in the box on the bottom of the center column select the picture you want to move. Under the view of the picture in the right hand column there are up and down arrows next to Order. By using those arrows you can move the pictures within an event or continue moving up or down into the event desired. Nancy Thanks That is just what I wanted regards -- Phil Hawkins (Rather be Fishing) Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Pictures -- sourcing, copying
Pat, 1) For pictures attached to an event there is no other way that I am aware of. 2) This question rather puzzles me. On the Source Clipboard there is a Picture Icon, clicking that enables you to attach a picture(s) which stay attached when the Sourced is linked to somebody else. 3) Copying does not affect the quality but continual editing and saving does. Ron Ferguson _ For Genealogy, Software and Social visit: http://www.fergys.co.uk *Over 650 Surnames from 11 Countries* View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ From: Pat Hickin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Pictures -- sourcing, copying Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2007 15:45:47 -0400 1) I can't seem to find the place to give the sourcing info for the pictures. Sometimes I just stick it in under description but of course that doesn't get it into the Master Source List. 2) Also is there a way to copy picture, caption etc. to a clipboard in order to attach it to another individual, location or what have you? Am I blind to some things?? 3) And Does copying reduce the quality? -- Pat - Original Message - From: Phil Hawkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Monday, September 10, 2007 7:50 AM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Pictures Nancy Bender wrote: Phil, I don't know if you can do what you want from the individual's picture gallery, but you can do it from the Picture Center. When it the Picture Center for the individual in question, go to the tab on the far right that says Attached Pictures. Then in the box on the bottom of the center column select the picture you want to move. Under the view of the picture in the right hand column there are up and down arrows next to Order. By using those arrows you can move the pictures within an event or continue moving up or down into the event desired. Nancy Thanks That is just what I wanted regards -- Phil Hawkins (Rather be Fishing) _ The next generation of Hotmail is here! http://www.newhotmail.co.uk Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp