RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy vs. TMG

2009-10-27 Thread Charles Apple
Hi Jackie,
 
Welcome to the list. Yes, I switched from TMG 7 to Legacy 7.0 Deluxe, and I
would definitely "NOT" switch back to TMG for a variety of reasons. I had
been using TMG for about 15 years. Although it is a daunting task to clean
up all the records, the finished product is well worth the effort. I would
suggest asking yourself one question, and let the answer to that question
dictate your actions. What is your Vision for the final outcome of all of
your research? Finally a Quote from Stephen Covey "Keep the End in Mind."
 
Hope this helps and good luck.
 
Charles

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From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf
Of Jackie
Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 10:03 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Legacy vs. TMG


Please don't boo me off the list yet. I used Legacy 4 and liked it. Then I
switched to TMG because at that time I thought it was better.  I took a look
at Legacy 7 last night, and am thinking of switching back. Except for all
the data entry work. I do realize I can import some, but there will still be
cleanup work.  Have any of you switched from TMG 7 to Legacy 7? And what are
your thoughts? If you prefer to email me off-list, I'm at
bakerj...@gmail.com.
 
Thanks,
Jackie Baker

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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy vs. TMG

2009-10-27 Thread WALTER D. CONNER
You may want to wait a bit longer, I just discovered bad problems with printing 
Source Reference numbers, the Sources are listed appropriately but not all of 
the reference numbers appear in the Report when printed out.

I am afraid they may put too much emphasis on adding gee haws and not enough on 
making sure that what they already have really works as it should. Been a 
Legacy user since early Legacy 2. This is not the first time this sort of thing 
has happened. I just wasted about $100 on paper, binding and postage of reports 
to libraries to find out that they are no good.

Walt Conner
  - Original Message - 
  From: Jackie 
  To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com 
  Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 9:02 PM
  Subject: [LegacyUG] Legacy vs. TMG


  Please don't boo me off the list yet. I used Legacy 4 and liked it. Then I 
switched to TMG because at that time I thought it was better.  I took a look at 
Legacy 7 last night, and am thinking of switching back. Except for all the data 
entry work. I do realize I can import some, but there will still be cleanup 
work.  Have any of you switched from TMG 7 to Legacy 7? And what are your 
thoughts? If you prefer to email me off-list, I'm at bakerj...@gmail.com.

  Thanks,
  Jackie Baker
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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy vs. TMG

2009-10-27 Thread linda chapman
Hi

I would also like your thoughts, if thats ok?

 Regards

Lin
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From: Jackie 
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Sent: Tuesday, 27 October, 2009 2:02:33
Subject: [LegacyUG] Legacy vs. TMG

 
Please don't boo me off the list yet. I used 
Legacy 4 and liked it. Then I switched to TMG because at that time I 
thought it was better.  I took a look at Legacy 7 last night, and am 
thinking of switching back. Except for all the data entry work. I do realize I 
can import some, but there will still be cleanup work.  Have any of you 
switched from TMG 7 to Legacy 7? And what are your thoughts? If you prefer to 
email me off-list, I'm at bakerj...@gmail.com.
 
Thanks,
Jackie Baker
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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy vs TMG and then some

2008-06-01 Thread Allen Prunty
The new version of FTM does -NOT- require the older program to import... you 
can directly import from any older format however, it is a one way 
import... any changes in data done via FTM2008 must be exported to GEDCOM in 
order to re-load into older versions of FTM.

Allen


From: m absalom 
Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2008 3:10 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy vs TMG and then some


  Cathy,
  Thanks for the comments and I am looking forward to trying V7.  For the 
FTM problem, I have reinstalled it on three drives now always from the original 
FTM disk. The problem may come from the bug patch (?) that had to be down 
loaded and I have that on disk also. I have tried all export and import options 
but nothing effects the fragmentation problem in the slightest. FTM was bought 
out after V.11 and they refused to address my problem. Their solution is to 
upgrade to 2008. Someone told me that 2008 required the older programs to 
export to a GED. If that is the case than the FTM people have their heads in 
the wrong place and I have heard nothing good about 2008. I could, if I felt 
bold (don't really) try to make corrections to the code but I really don't know 
what I am doing and I have a lot of large family files (since FTM doesn't 
handle well over 15,000 people). I don't want to mess with it right now.  As 
for mapping. My husband is a Linux geek and my son is a programmer. Neither 
care much about "MY" research so if I want them to be of any Tech Support, I 
have to stay clear of anything  "MS" if at all possible and that includes 
anything "IE".  My husband in particular keeps pointing me toward the Linux 
screen. He has even given me programs that run on both OS's to make the 
transition easier. LOL {Laugh Out Loud}
  I don't yet understand how Gramps (Linux program written in Python, a 
programing language) can read my GEDCOM when others can't. Chalk one up for the 
Linux people. But there is a positive side to this. I can import to Gramps 
(Windows version) and then export to Legacy with very few, minor, problems to 
correct. (No more fragmented families!)  This is why I am exploring Gramps and 
Legacy side by side. Thus, it would not be much of a problem to import some of 
my smaller, less developed projects in to Legacy. I will be trying that latter 
this summer.
  Wishing us all happy trails in all our V.7 adventures!
  Jane

  --- On Fri, 5/30/08, Cathy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

    From: Cathy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy vs TMG and then some
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Date: Friday, May 30, 2008, 6:07 PM


Hi Jane,Three comments.Legacy 7 reports give the option to have sources as 
footnotes, endnotes or endnotes at the end of each section/generation.Re 
importing an FTM generated GEDCOM into Legacy. There are notes on the Legacy 
Web pages on what options to choose
 when exporting the Gedcom and I think there are also notes about the import. I 
know that you need to check the notes after import. If they have developed 
strange spaces, then you've used the wrong option for notes and need to import 
again.Legacy 6 works far better on XP - and a computer with more RAM. Legacy 7 
requires much the same although for mapping you need IE7 and I think it would 
drive you mad without broadband connection. I don't understand people not being 
interested in maps. :-) To have the relevant map available with a click or two 
is wonderful. Perhaps you haven't seen the zoom level and the Aerial and Bird's 
Eye views you can switch to.Cheers,CathyAt 12:57 AM 31/05/2008, you 
wrote:>Hello again Legacy,>I have been lurking now for a few months and though 
the recent posts >concerning OS and genealogy programs were something I could 
comment on.>Back
 in the early part of this year I decided to begin weaning my >self off Win 98 
and begin exploring OS and genealogy programs. I had >been a Win 98 and FTM 
V.11 user. I have worked on Linux and Win XP >and because I haven't come to a 
conclusion as to what the best >genealogy program is for me, I am still using 
FTM V.11 but now on >Win XP. (Legacy  definitely works better on Win XP than on 
Win 98.)>If Legacy became compatible with Linux, developed import filters >that 
allowed import direct from program specific files including FTM >as doses TMG 
and offers an option to create footnotes at the end of >the page as TMG does, 
then Legacy will have a new deluxe customer.>For now I am still trying to find 
the easiest way to convert my >corrupted V.11 files to Legacy with out having 
it completely >fragment my file. I should note here that Gramps, (a free Linux 
user >built
 program also available experimentally for windows), produces a >near perfect 
import of my presumed 

Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy vs TMG and then some

2008-05-31 Thread m absalom
Cathy,
Thanks for the comments and I am looking forward to trying V7.  For the 
FTM problem, I have reinstalled it on three drives now always from the original 
FTM disk. The problem may come from the bug patch (?) that had to be down 
loaded and I have that on disk also. I have tried all export and import options 
but nothing effects the fragmentation problem in the slightest. FTM was bought 
out after V.11 and they refused to address my problem. Their solution is to 
upgrade to 2008. Someone told me that 2008 required the older programs to 
export to a GED. If that is the case than the FTM people have their heads in 
the wrong place and I have heard nothing good about 2008. I could, if I felt 
bold (don't really) try to make corrections to the code but I really don't know 
what I am doing and I have a lot of large family files (since FTM doesn't 
handle well over 15,000 people). I don't want to mess with it right now.  
As for mapping. My husband is a Linux
 geek and my son is a programmer. Neither care much about "MY" research so if I 
want them to be of any Tech Support, I have to stay clear of anything  
"MS" if at all possible and that includes anything "IE".  My husband in 
particular keeps pointing me toward the Linux screen. He has even given me 
programs that run on both OS's to make the transition easier. LOL {Laugh Out 
Loud}
I don't yet understand how Gramps (Linux program written in Python, a 
programing language) can read my GEDCOM when others can't. Chalk one up for the 
Linux people. But there is a positive side to this. I can import to Gramps  
(Windows version) and then export to Legacy with very few, minor, problems to 
correct. (No more fragmented families!)  This is why I am exploring Gramps 
and Legacy side by side. Thus, it would not be much of a problem to import some 
of my smaller, less developed projects in to Legacy. I will be trying that 
latter this summer.
Wishing us all happy trails in all our V.7 adventures!
Jane

--- On Fri, 5/30/08, Cathy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
From: Cathy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy vs TMG and then some
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Date: Friday, May 30, 2008, 6:07 PM

Hi Jane,

Three comments.

Legacy 7 reports give the option to have sources as footnotes, 
endnotes or endnotes at the end of each section/generation.

Re importing an FTM generated GEDCOM into Legacy. There are notes on 
the Legacy Web pages on what options to choose when exporting the 
Gedcom and I think there are also notes about the import. I know that 
you need to check the notes after import. If they have developed 
strange spaces, then you've used the wrong option for notes and need 
to import again.

Legacy 6 works far better on XP - and a computer with more RAM. 
Legacy 7 requires much the same although for mapping you need IE7 and 
I think it would drive you mad without broadband connection. I don't 
understand people not being interested in maps. :-) To have the 
relevant map available with a click or two is wonderful. Perhaps you 
haven't seen the zoom level and the Aerial and Bird's Eye views you 
can switch to.

Cheers,
Cathy

At 12:57 AM 31/05/2008, you wrote:
>Hello again Legacy,
>I have been lurking now for a few months and though the recent posts 
>concerning OS and genealogy programs were something I could comment on.
>Back in the early part of this year I decided to begin weaning my 
>self off Win 98 and begin exploring OS and genealogy programs. I had 
>been a Win 98 and FTM V.11 user. I have worked on Linux and Win XP 
>and because I haven't come to a conclusion as to what the best 
>genealogy program is for me, I am still using FTM V.11 but now on 
>Win XP. (Legacy  definitely works better on Win XP than on Win 98.)
>If Legacy became compatible with Linux, developed import filters 
>that allowed import direct from program specific files including FTM 
>as doses TMG and offers an option to create footnotes at the end of 
>the page as TMG does, then Legacy will have a new deluxe customer.
>For now I am still trying to find the easiest way to convert my 
>corrupted V.11 files to Legacy with out having it completely 
>fragment my file. I should note here that Gramps, (a free Linux user 
>built program also available experimentally for windows), produces a 
>near perfect import of my presumed corrupted FTM v.11 files in, 
>GEDCOM formate. TMG is second near perfect with the ability to 
>import directly from FTM files with out converting it to the 
>problematic GEDCOM. (Something that might have been useful in 
>opening that FTM  2008 back-up file being discussed.)
>But with all the fuss involved, I will continue with FTM until I 
>have finished the large projects that I have going and start the 
>newer smaller files in both Gramps and Legacy. I keep up 

Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy vs TMG and then some

2008-05-31 Thread Cathy

Hi Elizabeth,

Because they're not just street maps. You can see the countryside and 
in 3D the elevation. But even modern roads mostly follow old routes.

Of course old maps are invaluable but modern are not irrelevant.

Cathy

At 03:20 PM 31/05/2008, you wrote:


From: "Cathy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


Legacy 7 requires much the same although for mapping you need IE7 
and I think it would drive you mad without broadband connection. I 
don't understand people not being interested in maps. :-)


I don't understand people being interested in current maps. I am, 
however, interested in maps relevant to the time period in which the 
people lived. Old maps are truly fascinating.


Elizabeth
researching the descendants of William and Sarah (Patterson) Thompson




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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy vs TMG and then some

2008-05-31 Thread Elizabeth Richardson


From: "Cathy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


Legacy 7 requires much the same although for mapping you need IE7 and I 
think it would drive you mad without broadband connection. I don't 
understand people not being interested in maps. :-)


I don't understand people being interested in current maps. I am, however, 
interested in maps relevant to the time period in which the people lived. 
Old maps are truly fascinating.


Elizabeth
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RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy vs TMG

2008-05-30 Thread Janis Gilmore
I totally endorse an event-driven approach. I try to maintain that approach,
even within the parameters of the Legacy software.

Janis Walker Gilmore

-Original Message-
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ferguson
Sent: Friday, May 30, 2008 3:32 PM
To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy vs TMG


Penny,

I agree. I do not want an event driven style of database but, like you, one
that is people/family driven. I would think also that it would be extremely
difficult to combine the two approaches into a unified database


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> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy vs TMG
> Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 12:08:12 -0500
>
> This was my experience with TMG, as well. I even got the TMG training
> videos in hopes they would help sort out why this thing was harder-to-use
> than any genealogy program should be.
>
> And ... Oh my gosh. Those stupid films they made us watch (to keep us
busy)
> in 6th grade were not as yawn-inducing as the TMG training videos are.
I've
> hung onto them to use as sure-fire insomnia relief. (Thank you, Millenia
> for, not only making a user-friendly program, but for making training
> interesting, easy to watch, and enjoyable!)
>
> I also do not look at genealogy as event-oriented with people attached to
> said events; this is the TMG approach to genealogy db creation. Legacy is
> much more intuitive and user-friendly; furthermore, it looks at gen. db
> creation as people first, with events that happened to those people
second.
> Legacy is much more my style and continues to fulfill all my needs and
then
> some; I was quite relieved to have found it after my bummer-experience
with
> TMG.
>
> As I see it, Legacy and TMG use two different approaches and, therefore,
> fill two different niches in the gen-db world.
>
> Penny
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "G. C. Oliver" 
> To: 
> Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2008 5:57 PM
> Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy vs TMG
>
>
>>I have TMG 6 that I upgraded from TMG 5. I have tried on many occasions to
>> work with it and cannot.
>> If you want to spend you time fooling around with the software and forget
>> about Genealogy it's the program for you. You can dot your I's twice and
>> cross you T's three times.
>> In all honesty I am sure TMG works well for a lot of (A__L) people but it
>> is
>> way too complex and the learning curve too steep for me. I would rather
>> spend my time researching than worrying about the punctuation in a
>> descendent report.
>> G.C.

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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy vs TMG and then some

2008-05-30 Thread Cathy

Hi Jane,

Three comments.

Legacy 7 reports give the option to have sources as footnotes, 
endnotes or endnotes at the end of each section/generation.


Re importing an FTM generated GEDCOM into Legacy. There are notes on 
the Legacy Web pages on what options to choose when exporting the 
Gedcom and I think there are also notes about the import. I know that 
you need to check the notes after import. If they have developed 
strange spaces, then you've used the wrong option for notes and need 
to import again.


Legacy 6 works far better on XP - and a computer with more RAM. 
Legacy 7 requires much the same although for mapping you need IE7 and 
I think it would drive you mad without broadband connection. I don't 
understand people not being interested in maps. :-) To have the 
relevant map available with a click or two is wonderful. Perhaps you 
haven't seen the zoom level and the Aerial and Bird's Eye views you 
can switch to.


Cheers,
Cathy

At 12:57 AM 31/05/2008, you wrote:

Hello again Legacy,
I have been lurking now for a few months and though the recent posts 
concerning OS and genealogy programs were something I could comment on.
Back in the early part of this year I decided to begin weaning my 
self off Win 98 and begin exploring OS and genealogy programs. I had 
been a Win 98 and FTM V.11 user. I have worked on Linux and Win XP 
and because I haven't come to a conclusion as to what the best 
genealogy program is for me, I am still using FTM V.11 but now on 
Win XP. (Legacy  definitely works better on Win XP than on Win 98.)
If Legacy became compatible with Linux, developed import filters 
that allowed import direct from program specific files including FTM 
as doses TMG and offers an option to create footnotes at the end of 
the page as TMG does, then Legacy will have a new deluxe customer.
For now I am still trying to find the easiest way to convert my 
corrupted V.11 files to Legacy with out having it completely 
fragment my file. I should note here that Gramps, (a free Linux user 
built program also available experimentally for windows), produces a 
near perfect import of my presumed corrupted FTM v.11 files in, 
GEDCOM formate. TMG is second near perfect with the ability to 
import directly from FTM files with out converting it to the 
problematic GEDCOM. (Something that might have been useful in 
opening that FTM  2008 back-up file being discussed.)
But with all the fuss involved, I will continue with FTM until I 
have finished the large projects that I have going and start the 
newer smaller files in both Gramps and Legacy. I keep up with the 
messageboards for all three programs. (ouch!)
I agree that despite the do-able learning curve in TMG, it is 
clunky, slow and cumbersome and it is somewhat based on an old 
formate the may well date back as far as the old Atari days (not 
sure about that). I don't have a problem with appearances since all 
but FTM allow for easy customizing. I am not interested in Charting, 
Mapping and uploading to a Website at this point. For my purposes 
all have something that will do. I do like the ability to quickly 
create and copy a simple descent tree in FTM for quick sharing and 
prefer its report format the best. However, I have decided that it 
may be best to use the reports with sources as a beginning draft in 
my word processor and customize my own stile report. (I haven't 
found one that I am 100% happy with). I also for this propose like 
the FTM option to print sources in line and attached to individual 
facts allowing for customized footnoting and subscripting on a page 
by page bases.
Although, Legacy and Gramps should really not be compared, I find 
both to be somewhat between FTM and TMG. I am looking foreword to 
trying the new Gramps V.3 and Legacy V.7 later this summer. I may 
have some new thoughts at that point.
I hope my thoughts and observation here are taken constructively and 
applied to future Legacy improvements.

Jane





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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy vs TMG

2008-05-30 Thread Kris
Hi, Penny -- You obviously have a lot more experience with it than I do. 
 I tried TMG (and a bunch of others, like PAF, Roots Magic and GenBox) 
before I "committed" to Legacy.  It was a no-brainer for me.   Legacy 
was user-friendly enough that I could start using it right away, without 
any tips, training videos, manuals, etc.  The tips on the site (and from 
this list) are certainly valuable and very helpful, but you can use it 
right out of the box, so to speak, without a steep learning curve.


I tried TMG because it was so highly recommended.  But I want to spend 
my time researching, not trying to figure out how to use the program. 
It didn't take the 30-day trial to realize it wasn't going to work for 
me.  I think I messed with it for about 24 hours.


Penny wrote:
This was my experience with TMG, as well.  I even got the TMG training 
videos in hopes they would help sort out why this thing was 
harder-to-use than any genealogy program should be.


And ... Oh my gosh.  Those stupid films they made us watch (to keep us 
busy) in 6th grade were not as yawn-inducing as the TMG training videos 
are.  I've hung onto them to use as sure-fire insomnia relief.  (Thank 
you, Millenia for, not only making a user-friendly program, but for 
making training interesting, easy to watch, and enjoyable!)


I also do not look at genealogy as event-oriented with people attached 
to said events; this is the TMG approach to genealogy db creation.  
Legacy is much more intuitive and user-friendly; furthermore, it looks 
at gen. db creation as people first, with events that happened to those 
people second. Legacy is much more my style and continues to fulfill all 
my needs and then some; I was quite relieved to have found it after my 
bummer-experience with TMG.


As I see it, Legacy and TMG use two different approaches and, therefore, 
fill two different niches in the gen-db world.


Penny




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RE: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy vs TMG

2008-05-30 Thread Rodney Hall
Charting is an *integral* part of Legacy7. It is also available as a
stand-alone program.

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Suaviter sed fortiter
Agreeably but powerfully 
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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thorne
Sent: 30 May 2008 16:00
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy vs TMG


Rodney Hall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Legacy 7 does not yet support witness, but it does have a very good CHARTING
addition.
See for an example http://rmhh.co.uk/descendants_of_john_hall.pdf

Thanks for the link to the PDF.  For years TMG could print that kind of
chart and many more.  In fact I'd often imported my Legacy file into TMG in
order to print out charts.  Anyway just to be clear charting is now part of
7 not an additional pieces of software?

Regarding witnesses I wrote to Legacy asking for that well over a year ago
as did others and I'm surprised that it still hasn't been added.

Take care,

Phil





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RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy vs TMG

2008-05-30 Thread ronald ferguson

Penny,

I agree. I do not want an event driven style of database but, like you, one 
that is people/family driven. I would think also that it would be extremely 
difficult to combine the two approaches into a unified database


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> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy vs TMG
> Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 12:08:12 -0500
>
> This was my experience with TMG, as well. I even got the TMG training
> videos in hopes they would help sort out why this thing was harder-to-use
> than any genealogy program should be.
>
> And ... Oh my gosh. Those stupid films they made us watch (to keep us busy)
> in 6th grade were not as yawn-inducing as the TMG training videos are. I've
> hung onto them to use as sure-fire insomnia relief. (Thank you, Millenia
> for, not only making a user-friendly program, but for making training
> interesting, easy to watch, and enjoyable!)
>
> I also do not look at genealogy as event-oriented with people attached to
> said events; this is the TMG approach to genealogy db creation. Legacy is
> much more intuitive and user-friendly; furthermore, it looks at gen. db
> creation as people first, with events that happened to those people second.
> Legacy is much more my style and continues to fulfill all my needs and then
> some; I was quite relieved to have found it after my bummer-experience with
> TMG.
>
> As I see it, Legacy and TMG use two different approaches and, therefore,
> fill two different niches in the gen-db world.
>
> Penny
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "G. C. Oliver" 
> To: 
> Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2008 5:57 PM
> Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy vs TMG
>
>
>>I have TMG 6 that I upgraded from TMG 5. I have tried on many occasions to
>> work with it and cannot.
>> If you want to spend you time fooling around with the software and forget
>> about Genealogy it's the program for you. You can dot your I's twice and
>> cross you T's three times.
>> In all honesty I am sure TMG works well for a lot of (A__L) people but it
>> is
>> way too complex and the learning curve too steep for me. I would rather
>> spend my time researching than worrying about the punctuation in a
>> descendent report.
>> G.C.

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RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy vs TMG

2008-05-30 Thread ronald ferguson

Phil,

In Legacy 7 Delux, Legacy Charting is sort of both. It is a separate program to 
which Legacy has a direct link via the Tool Bar Icon. It will directly read 
your .fdb files and also files from other sources.

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Subject: Re: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy vs TMG



Rodney Hall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



Legacy 7 does not yet support witness, but it does have a very good CHARTING 
addition.

See for an example http://rmhh.co.uk/descendants_of_john_hall.pdf



Thanks for the link to the PDF.  For years TMG could print that kind of chart 
and many more.  In fact I'd often imported my Legacy file into TMG in order to 
print out charts.  Anyway just to be clear charting is now part of 7 not an 
additional pieces of software?

Regarding witnesses I wrote to Legacy asking for that well over a year ago as 
did others and I'm surprised that it still hasn't been added.

Take care,

Phil




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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy vs TMG

2008-05-30 Thread Penny
This was my experience with TMG, as well.  I even got the TMG training 
videos in hopes they would help sort out why this thing was harder-to-use 
than any genealogy program should be.


And ... Oh my gosh.  Those stupid films they made us watch (to keep us busy) 
in 6th grade were not as yawn-inducing as the TMG training videos are.  I've 
hung onto them to use as sure-fire insomnia relief.  (Thank you, Millenia 
for, not only making a user-friendly program, but for making training 
interesting, easy to watch, and enjoyable!)


I also do not look at genealogy as event-oriented with people attached to 
said events; this is the TMG approach to genealogy db creation.  Legacy is 
much more intuitive and user-friendly; furthermore, it looks at gen. db 
creation as people first, with events that happened to those people second. 
Legacy is much more my style and continues to fulfill all my needs and then 
some; I was quite relieved to have found it after my bummer-experience with 
TMG.


As I see it, Legacy and TMG use two different approaches and, therefore, 
fill two different niches in the gen-db world.


Penny

- Original Message - 
From: "G. C. Oliver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2008 5:57 PM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy vs TMG



I have TMG 6 that I upgraded from TMG 5. I have tried on many occasions to
work with it and cannot.
If you want to spend you time fooling around with the software and forget
about Genealogy it's the program for you. You can dot your I's twice and
cross you T's three times.
In all honesty I am sure TMG works well for a lot of (A__L) people but it 
is

way too complex and the learning curve too steep for me. I would rather
spend my time researching than worrying about the punctuation in a
descendent report.
G.C.





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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy vs TMG and then some

2008-05-30 Thread m absalom
Hello again Legacy,
I have been lurking now for a few months and though the recent posts concerning 
OS and genealogy programs were something I could comment on.
Back in the early part of this year I decided to begin weaning my self off Win 
98 and begin exploring OS and genealogy programs. I had been a Win 98 and FTM 
V.11 user. I have worked on Linux and Win XP and because I haven't come to a 
conclusion as to what the best genealogy program is for me, I am still using 
FTM V.11 but now on Win XP. (Legacy  definitely works better on Win XP 
than on Win 98.)
If Legacy became compatible with Linux, developed import filters that allowed 
import direct from program specific files including FTM as doses TMG and offers 
an option to create footnotes at the end of the page as TMG does, then Legacy 
will have a new deluxe customer. 
For now I am still trying to find the easiest way to convert my corrupted V.11 
files to Legacy with out having it completely fragment my file. I should note 
here that Gramps, (a free Linux user built program also available 
experimentally for windows), produces a near perfect import of my presumed 
corrupted FTM v.11 files in, GEDCOM formate. TMG is second near perfect with 
the ability to import directly from FTM files with out converting it to the 
problematic GEDCOM. (Something that might have been useful in opening that 
FTM  2008 back-up file being discussed.)
But with all the fuss involved, I will continue with FTM until I have finished 
the large projects that I have going and start the newer smaller files in both 
Gramps and Legacy. I keep up with the messageboards for all three programs. 
(ouch!) 
I agree that despite the do-able learning curve in TMG, it is clunky, slow and 
cumbersome and it is somewhat based on an old formate the may well date back as 
far as the old Atari days (not sure about that). I don't have a problem with 
appearances since all but FTM allow for easy customizing. I am not interested 
in Charting, Mapping and uploading to a Website at this point. For my purposes 
all have something that will do. I do like the ability to quickly create and 
copy a simple descent tree in FTM for quick sharing and prefer its report 
format the best. However, I have decided that it may be best to use the reports 
with sources as a beginning draft in my word processor and customize my own 
stile report. (I haven't found one that I am 100% happy with). I also for this 
propose like the FTM option to print sources in line and attached to individual 
facts allowing for customized footnoting and subscripting on a page by page 
bases.
Although, Legacy and Gramps should really not be compared, I find both to be 
somewhat between FTM and TMG. I am looking foreword to trying the new Gramps 
V.3 and Legacy V.7 later this summer. I may have some new thoughts at that 
point.
I hope my thoughts and observation here are taken constructively and applied to 
future Legacy improvements. 
Jane



  



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Re: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy vs TMG

2008-05-30 Thread philip thorne
Rodney Hall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>
> Legacy 7 does not yet support witness, but it does have a very good
> CHARTING addition.
>
> See for an example http://rmhh.co.uk/descendants_of_john_hall.pdf
>

Thanks for the link to the PDF.  For years TMG could print that kind of
chart and many more.  In fact I'd often imported my Legacy file into TMG in
order to print out charts.  Anyway just to be clear charting is now part of
7 not an additional pieces of software?

Regarding witnesses I wrote to Legacy asking for that well over a year ago
as did others and I'm surprised that it still hasn't been added.

Take care,

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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy vs TMG

2008-05-30 Thread Bill

Hi
I am one who has used practically every Genealogy software,all have some 
features that are better than others, but overall Legacy is for me , the 
best. I cannot fatom all the whingers who are not even Legacy users, yet 
are members of the LUG. Strange or what ?

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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy vs TMG

2008-05-30 Thread Rodney Hall
<>

Legacy 7 does not yet support witness, but it does have a very good CHARTING
addition. 

See for an example http://rmhh.co.uk/ Descendants_of_John_HALL.pdf 

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On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 10:10 PM, philip thorne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> I have used both programs and yes TMG has a major learning curve but 
> as stated it goes way beyond Legacy however the majority of us will 
> never need the in-depth functionality of TMG.
>
> Speaking of which does the new version of Legacy include an entry for 
> witnesses and can it print family trees?




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RE: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy vs TMG

2008-05-30 Thread Rodney Hall
<>

Legacy 7 does not yet support witness, but it does have a very good CHARTING
addition. 

See for an example http://rmhh.co.uk/descendants_of_john_hall.pdf
 

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On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 10:10 PM, philip thorne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> I have used both programs and yes TMG has a major learning curve but 
> as stated it goes way beyond Legacy however the majority of us will 
> never need the in-depth functionality of TMG.
>
> Speaking of which does the new version of Legacy include an entry for 
> witnesses and can it print family trees?




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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy vs TMG

2008-05-30 Thread Rodney Hall
Legacy 7 does not yet support witness, but it does have a very good CHARTING
addition. 

See for an example http://rmhh.co.uk/ Descendants_of_John_HALL.pdf

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On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 10:10 PM, philip thorne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> I have used both programs and yes TMG has a major learning curve but 
> as stated it goes way beyond Legacy however the majority of us will 
> never need the in-depth functionality of TMG.
>
> Speaking of which does the new version of Legacy include an entry for 
> witnesses and can it print family trees?




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RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy vs TMG

2008-05-30 Thread Steve Ayres

Then how come you are still a member of the "LEGACY USERS GROUP" and not the 
tmg group.  Oh, I know you've seen the errors of your way and want to come 
back

Steve

Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 15:48:05 -0700
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy vs TMG
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com



to all,
My whole family switched to TMG, by Wholly Genes!
TMG is orders of magnitudes better than Legacy!
TMG handles duplicates much better!
TMG handles and sorts on aliases!
TMG has a bigger learning curve.
In TMG, you can customize your working screen(s) - better than Legacy ever will 
be. 
Legacy is pretty and quickbut, Legacy can not compare to TMG!
Down size is the entry price of 70 USD.
Plus, 20 USD per seat for file collaboration - ie: file locking!
If you need a lot of data per person. Go to TMG!

ERB, a long time Legacy user!
Now living in the TMG world!



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Subject: [LegacyUG] Legacy vs TMG

 


Can anyone tell me what functionality that Legacy offers
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RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy vs TMG

2008-05-30 Thread Keith Bage
Thanks to all for the comments on Legacy vs TMG. I must say that I am a long
time legacy user and advocate of the program. My main aim here was simply to
get a view of what is seen to be in one program and not in the another. 

 

My personal view on TMG is that it has some great features, but is very
"clunky". Personally I don't find the learning curve a problem it's just the
quirky implementation of some of the features.

 

I have tried hard to love TMG and there are many thing's I do like about it,
but it's just so uninspiring to look at and navigate. 

 

Keith

 

 

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Sent: 30 May 2008 03:45
To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy vs TMG

 

Roberta, about a month ago I did the same after a number of comments on the
LUG, I didn't have any trouble importing my db into TMG but I found it to be
a very unfriendly interface as compared to Legacy.   It reminded me of the
sort of interfaces one would see in the days of my old Atari 1040 or
Commodore 64 computers so I uninstalled it and now I sit here updating my
familytree in Legacy waiting for the new version to become available.  

Steve

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Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 14:43:11 -0400
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy vs TMG

I downloaded a trial of TMG last night to see what all the fuss about
Witness' was about.

 

Took quite awhile to download, quite awhile to install, and after an
enormous amount of time waiting for the process to  import my current
database - I got tired of waiting and went to bed, this morning the computer
was locked up and still no database. 

 

I poked around the sample database and was not impressed.Very Busy
Interface. Relationships are scattered all over the place. Adding People to
events instead of events to people as in Legacy did not seem to save me much
in the way of time/effort. I found it hard to look at people as family units
with TMG's layout. I perused the Manual for TMG and was not overly excited
about anything I found there either.

 

I am not looking to change from Legacy just browsing, Killing a bit of time,
and hopefully learning a few things but I'll delete the whole thing when I
get home tonight, as definately not for me.

 

Roberta Wunder

 

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Can anyone tell me what functionality that Legacy offers over and above TMG?
Has anyone moved over from TMG to Legacy recently and if so why? 
 
Of course I'm also happy to hear what TMG can do that Legacy can't but that
might be slightly off topic (not sure).
 
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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy vs TMG

2008-05-29 Thread D Fretwell
"Legacy 7 does include CHARTING - it does not use witnesses.
Keith"


.. and pretty awful it is too

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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy vs TMG

2008-05-29 Thread GeoSci
Legacy 7 does include CHARTING - it does not use witnesses.
Keith

On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 10:10 PM, philip thorne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have used both programs and yes TMG has a major learning curve but as
> stated it goes way beyond Legacy however the majority of us will never need
> the in-depth functionality of TMG.
>
> Speaking of which does the new version of Legacy include an entry for
> witnesses and can it print family trees?
>
> Take care,
>
> Phil
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RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy vs TMG

2008-05-29 Thread Steve Ayres

Roberta, about a month ago I did the same after a number of comments on the 
LUG, I didn't have any trouble importing my db into TMG but I found it to be a 
very unfriendly interface as compared to Legacy.   It reminded me of the sort 
of interfaces one would see in the days of my old Atari 1040 or Commodore 64 
computers so I uninstalled it and now I sit here updating my familytree in 
Legacy waiting for the new version to become available.  

Steve

Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 14:43:11 -0400
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy vs TMG

I downloaded a trial of TMG last night to see what all the fuss about Witness' 
was about.
 
Took quite awhile to download, quite awhile to install, and after an enormous 
amount of time waiting for the process to  import my current database - I got 
tired of waiting and went to bed, this morning the computer was locked up and 
still no database. 

 
I poked around the sample database and was not impressed.Very Busy Interface. 
Relationships are scattered all over the place. Adding People to events instead 
of events to people as in Legacy did not seem to save me much in the way of 
time/effort. I found it hard to look at people as family units with TMG's 
layout. I perused the Manual for TMG and was not overly excited about anything 
I found there either.

 
I am not looking to change from Legacy just browsing, Killing a bit of time,  
and hopefully learning a few things but I'll delete the whole thing when I get 
home tonight, as definately not for me.
 
Roberta Wunder

 
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Can anyone tell me what functionality that Legacy offers over and above TMG? 
Has anyone moved over from TMG to Legacy recently and if so why? 
 
Of course I'm also happy to hear what TMG can do that Legacy can't but that 
might be slightly off topic (not sure).
 
Keith
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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy vs TMG

2008-05-29 Thread philip thorne
I have used both programs and yes TMG has a major learning curve but as
stated it goes way beyond Legacy however the majority of us will never need
the in-depth functionality of TMG.

Speaking of which does the new version of Legacy include an entry for
witnesses and can it print family trees?

Take care,

Phil




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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy vs TMG

2008-05-29 Thread E.R. Brunson
to all,
My whole family switched to TMG, by Wholly Genes!
TMG is orders of magnitudes better than Legacy!
TMG handles duplicates much better!
TMG handles and sorts on aliases!
TMG has a bigger learning curve.
In TMG, you can customize your working screen(s) - better than Legacy ever will 
be. 
Legacy is pretty and quickbut, Legacy can not compare to TMG!
Down size is the entry price of 70 USD.
Plus, 20 USD per seat for file collaboration - ie: file locking!
If you need a lot of data per person. Go to TMG!

ERB, a long time Legacy user!
Now living in the TMG world!




- Original Message 
From: Keith Bage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2008 1:21:07 PM
Subject: [LegacyUG] Legacy vs TMG

 
Can anyone tell me what functionality that Legacy offers
over and above TMG? Has anyone moved over from TMG to Legacy recently and if so
why? 
 
Of course I’m also happy to hear what TMG can do that
Legacy can’t but that might be slightly off topic (not sure).
 
Keith
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RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy vs TMG

2008-05-29 Thread G. C. Oliver
I have TMG 6 that I upgraded from TMG 5. I have tried on many occasions to
work with it and cannot.
If you want to spend you time fooling around with the software and forget
about Genealogy it's the program for you. You can dot your I's twice and
cross you T's three times.
In all honesty I am sure TMG works well for a lot of (A__L) people but it is
way too complex and the learning curve too steep for me. I would rather
spend my time researching than worrying about the punctuation in a
descendent report.
G.C.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Keith Bage
Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2008 3:40 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy vs TMG

Thanks Geoff! And completely "unbiased" eh.

To be fair it did "remind" me of some damn good options TMG doesn't have.
Still, very interested to see how the sourcewriter compares. Obviously I
still haven't seen that BUT I think it was a big "miss" not to allow the
user to create their own source types (and I do know we can override them).

Keith




> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Geoff 
> Rasmussen
> Sent: 29 May 2008 18:23
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy vs TMG
> 
> Keith,
> 
> For an extremely "unbiased" :) comparison see our comparison chart at 
> http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/Compare.asp.
> 
> Geoff (...still...at the Las Vegas airport...)
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: Keith Bage [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Sent: Thu, 29 May 2008 18:21:07 +0100
> Subject: [LegacyUG] Legacy vs TMG
> 
> Can anyone tell me what functionality that Legacy offers over and 
> above TMG?
> Has anyone moved over from TMG to Legacy recently and if so why?
> 
> Of course I'm also happy to hear what TMG can do that Legacy can't but 
> that might be slightly off topic (not sure).
> 
> Keith
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy vs TMG

2008-05-29 Thread Robert57P via Gmail

Hmmm - interesting:
* This page of the website has been updated for Legacy 7.
* The Videos webpage has been updated for Legacy 7.
* Some of the Help Center pages now include Legacy 7
But the Legacy Store, the Legacy home page, and some other pages still only 
reference version 6.


They are getting there.

Bob

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To: 
Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2008 1:23 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy vs TMG


Keith,

For an extremely "unbiased" :) comparison see our comparison chart at 
http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/Compare.asp.


Geoff (...still...at the Las Vegas airport...)

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To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Thu, 29 May 2008 18:21:07 +0100
Subject: [LegacyUG] Legacy vs TMG

Can anyone tell me what functionality that Legacy offers over and above TMG?
Has anyone moved over from TMG to Legacy recently and if so why?

Of course I'm also happy to hear what TMG can do that Legacy can't but that
might be slightly off topic (not sure).

Keith






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RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy vs TMG

2008-05-29 Thread Janis Gilmore
What Ann is referring to in her final paragraph is the TMG witness feature
that someone was asking about earlier today (or yesterday?)

Janis Walker Gilmore

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Anne
Hildrum
Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2008 3:06 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy vs TMG

I Moved from TMG to Legacy, but that was a long time ago.
The main reason I have a large file, and making a GEDCOM of that file in TMG
took
more than 4 days, in Legacy abt 2 hours. Making the report I always use took
in TMG 4 days, in Legacy less than 2 hours.

The one thing I miss in Legacy is the possiblity to connect several people
to the same event,
or many people to one person where none is related. Other than that Legacy
is faster, easy to
use.

Anne




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RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy vs TMG

2008-05-29 Thread Brendan Caley
Keith

This link may help

 

http://genealogy-software-review.toptenreviews.com/

 

 

Brendan Caley

 

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Sent: 29 May 2008 18:21
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Legacy vs TMG

 

Can anyone tell me what functionality that Legacy offers over and above TMG?
Has anyone moved over from TMG to Legacy recently and if so why? 

 

Of course I'm also happy to hear what TMG can do that Legacy can't but that
might be slightly off topic (not sure).

 

Keith

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RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy vs TMG

2008-05-29 Thread Keith Bage
Thanks Geoff! And completely "unbiased" eh.

To be fair it did "remind" me of some damn good options TMG doesn't have.
Still, very interested to see how the sourcewriter compares. Obviously I
still haven't seen that BUT I think it was a big "miss" not to allow the
user to create their own source types (and I do know we can override them).

Keith




> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Geoff
> Rasmussen
> Sent: 29 May 2008 18:23
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy vs TMG
> 
> Keith,
> 
> For an extremely "unbiased" :) comparison see our comparison chart at
> http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/Compare.asp.
> 
> Geoff (...still...at the Las Vegas airport...)
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: Keith Bage [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Sent: Thu, 29 May 2008 18:21:07 +0100
> Subject: [LegacyUG] Legacy vs TMG
> 
> Can anyone tell me what functionality that Legacy offers over and above
> TMG?
> Has anyone moved over from TMG to Legacy recently and if so why?
> 
> Of course I'm also happy to hear what TMG can do that Legacy can't but
> that
> might be slightly off topic (not sure).
> 
> Keith
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy vs TMG

2008-05-29 Thread Roberta Wunder
I downloaded a trial of TMG last night to see what all the fuss about
Witness' was about.

Took quite awhile to download, quite awhile to install, and after an
enormous amount of time waiting for the process to  import my current
database - I got tired of waiting and went to bed, this morning the computer
was locked up and still no database.

I poked around the sample database and was not impressed.Very Busy
Interface. Relationships are scattered all over the place. Adding People to
events instead of events to people as in Legacy did not seem to save me much
in the way of time/effort. I found it hard to look at people as family units
with TMG's layout. I perused the Manual for TMG and was not overly excited
about anything I found there either.

I am not looking to change from Legacy just browsing, Killing a bit of time,
 and hopefully learning a few things but I'll delete the whole thing when I
get home tonight, as definately not for me.

Roberta Wunder


On 5/29/08, Keith Bage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>  Can anyone tell me what functionality that Legacy offers over and above
> TMG? Has anyone moved over from TMG to Legacy recently and if so why?
>
>
>
> Of course I'm also happy to hear what TMG can do that Legacy can't but that
> might be slightly off topic (not sure).
>
>
>
> Keith
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy vs TMG

2008-05-29 Thread Anne Hildrum

I Moved from TMG to Legacy, but that was a long time ago.
The main reason I have a large file, and making a GEDCOM of that file in TMG 
took
more than 4 days, in Legacy abt 2 hours. Making the report I always use took
in TMG 4 days, in Legacy less than 2 hours.

The one thing I miss in Legacy is the possiblity to connect several people to 
the same event,
or many people to one person where none is related. Other than that Legacy is 
faster, easy to
use.

Anne

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Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2008 7:21 PM
Subject: [LegacyUG] Legacy vs TMG



Can anyone tell me what functionality that Legacy offers over and above TMG?
Has anyone moved over from TMG to Legacy recently and if so why? 




Of course I'm also happy to hear what TMG can do that Legacy can't but that
might be slightly off topic (not sure).



Keith





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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy vs TMG

2008-05-29 Thread Geoff Rasmussen
Keith,

For an extremely "unbiased" :) comparison see our comparison chart at 
http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/Compare.asp.

Geoff (...still...at the Las Vegas airport...)

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From: Keith Bage [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Thu, 29 May 2008 18:21:07 +0100
Subject: [LegacyUG] Legacy vs TMG

Can anyone tell me what functionality that Legacy offers over and above TMG?
Has anyone moved over from TMG to Legacy recently and if so why?

Of course I'm also happy to hear what TMG can do that Legacy can't but that
might be slightly off topic (not sure).

Keith






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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy vs TMG

2008-05-29 Thread Robert Carneal USA

Keith-  I imagine we all could. Instead, please go to this page:
http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/Compare.asp

There, Legacy is compared against several others. It is compared against 
PAF, FTM, RM, and TMG.


Thanks.

Robert


Keith Bage wrote:


Can anyone tell me what functionality that Legacy offers over and 
above TMG? Has anyone moved over from TMG to Legacy recently and if so 
why?


 

Of course I'm also happy to hear what TMG can do that Legacy can't but 
that might be slightly off topic (not sure).


 


Keith







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