Re: [LegacyUG] Problems with Name Index in Book
Tom, I do not have the knowledge to help solve your mysteries, but if I have any problem with any record, I find it interesting to see the date when the individual was added, marriage added and when modified. Might help to see if the record was imported, or if all problem records were modified or added on the same date and time. Regards, Jane Tripp To see the dates and times on the Family view, right click on the date in the lower right hand corner. - Original Message - From: Thomas Herson To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Friday, August 22, 2008 12:57 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Problems with Name Index in Book Ron, Thanks for your thoughts. I have the other two mysteries solved. One involved a marrage to an unknown ((that never happened) and the other involved a previous marriage and children assigned to the wrong husband. Don't know how that happened, Tom Herson Ithaca, NY - Original Message - From: "ronald ferguson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, August 22, 2008 12:28 PM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Problems with Name Index in Book Tom, Good to see it's getting sorted. It's quite easy to get a ghost marriage eg. if a child is imcorrectly given to a woman, and then unlinked or deleted to correct the error, the "marriage" to an unknown also needs to be deleted. I am not clear about the two you have left. Do you have the maiden names for both and if so are they also included in the index as well as their married names? If so it would appear that you have ghost marriages for these also. Have you checked to see how many husbands they have, both in the marriage list and indicated on the spouse icon in Family View? It may also be worthwhile having a look to see what happens if you turn off the show married names. Ron Ferguson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Problems with Name Index in Book
Ron, Thanks for your thoughts. I have the other two mysteries solved. One involved a marrage to an unknown ((that never happened) and the other involved a previous marriage and children assigned to the wrong husband. Don't know how that happened, Tom Herson Ithaca, NY - Original Message - From: "ronald ferguson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, August 22, 2008 12:28 PM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Problems with Name Index in Book Tom, Good to see it's getting sorted. It's quite easy to get a ghost marriage eg. if a child is imcorrectly given to a woman, and then unlinked or deleted to correct the error, the "marriage" to an unknown also needs to be deleted. I am not clear about the two you have left. Do you have the maiden names for both and if so are they also included in the index as well as their married names? If so it would appear that you have ghost marriages for these also. Have you checked to see how many husbands they have, both in the marriage list and indicated on the spouse icon in Family View? It may also be worthwhile having a look to see what happens if you turn off the show married names. Ron Ferguson _ *New* Insert Pictures Into your Web Pages - Blogs http://www.fergys.co.uk View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Problems with Name Index in Book Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 11:07:53 -0400 I don't know how it occurred, but I solved the problem of the unamrried people who were appearing in the Surname Unknown section. I thought I'd take a look at the Family Group Sheet for these six people. The unmarried people each had an MRIN showing even theough they were not and never had been married. I went to the MRIN list and deleted that MRIN. The Surname Uknown section is now down to two names. Both thse people are married but I don't dare delete the MRIN and don't see that the MRIN is a duplicate. Any ideas? Tom Herson Ithaca, NY - Original Message - From: "ronald ferguson" To: Sent: Friday, August 22, 2008 10:12 AM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Problems with Name Index in Book Tom, I cannot tell. What were your index settings? Is there any connection between your sister and Anderson eg AKA, married name, step father etc. etc. even in error (no offence to your family meant btw. just options)? I cannot offer an explanation as to why the first and second run were different, but sometimes things do seem to stick a bit and check/repair or closing/reopening can sort of bump start it. Ron Ferguson _ *New* Insert Pictures Into your Web Pages - Blogs http://www.fergys.co.uk View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Problems with Name Index in Book Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 09:15:21 -0400 Continuing to work with the Publishing Center's book feature, I just printed out Name Index for my major family. The first time one (1) name was shown at the beginning of the list in the (No surname) section. It was an "aka" name and I went to the proper place and fixed that. I re-ran and printed the Name Index. This time there were six (6) names listed in the (No Surname) section at the beginning of the index. I wondered why those six names weren't there the first time. I checked the Individual Information Screen for each of the six but didn't see a problem. I also noticed that the Name Index was longer the 2nd time I ran the report. There were more people under several of the Surname headings then there had been the first time. I'll mention one instance - The2nd time my sister was included under Anderson as "Shirley Lou (Herson) (1928- )." She was not in the first printing, nor were several others, although she should have been. I made NO changes to the settings between the first and 2nd printing of the report. I did the File Maintainence/Check Report thing and the 3rd printing was the same as the 2nd with six individual showing under the (No Surname) section of the Name Index for no apparent reason. Does anyone have any thoughts on this? I've submitted this as a Problem Report. It would be nice to try something in the Publishing Center that didn't disclose a problem ;-) Tom Herson Ithaca, NY _ Win New York ho
RE: [LegacyUG] Problems with Name Index in Book
Tom, Good to see it's getting sorted. It's quite easy to get a ghost marriage eg. if a child is imcorrectly given to a woman, and then unlinked or deleted to correct the error, the "marriage" to an unknown also needs to be deleted. I am not clear about the two you have left. Do you have the maiden names for both and if so are they also included in the index as well as their married names? If so it would appear that you have ghost marriages for these also. Have you checked to see how many husbands they have, both in the marriage list and indicated on the spouse icon in Family View? It may also be worthwhile having a look to see what happens if you turn off the show married names. Ron Ferguson _ *New* Insert Pictures Into your Web Pages - Blogs http://www.fergys.co.uk View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com > Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Problems with Name Index in Book > Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 11:07:53 -0400 > > I don't know how it occurred, but I solved the problem of the unamrried > people who were appearing in the Surname Unknown section. I thought I'd take > a look at the Family Group Sheet for these six people. The unmarried people > each had an MRIN showing even theough they were not and never had been > married. I went to the MRIN list and deleted that MRIN. The Surname Uknown > section is now down to two names. Both thse people are married but I don't > dare delete the MRIN and don't see that the MRIN is a duplicate. > > Any ideas? > > Tom Herson > Ithaca, NY > - Original Message ----- > From: "ronald ferguson" > To: > Sent: Friday, August 22, 2008 10:12 AM > Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Problems with Name Index in Book > > > > Tom, > > I cannot tell. What were your index settings? Is there any connection > between your sister and Anderson eg AKA, married name, step father etc. etc. > even in error (no offence to your family meant btw. just options)? > > I cannot offer an explanation as to why the first and second run were > different, but sometimes things do seem to stick a bit and check/repair or > closing/reopening can sort of bump start it. > > > Ron Ferguson > > _ > > *New* Insert Pictures Into your Web Pages - Blogs > http://www.fergys.co.uk > View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: > http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ > For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: > http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ > _ > > > > >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com >> Subject: [LegacyUG] Problems with Name Index in Book >> Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 09:15:21 -0400 >> >> Continuing to work with the Publishing Center's book feature, I just >> printed >> out Name Index for my major family. >> >> The first time one (1) name was shown at the beginning of the list in the >> (No surname) section. It was an "aka" name and I went to the proper place >> and fixed that. >> >> I re-ran and printed the Name Index. This time there were six (6) names >> listed in the (No Surname) section at the beginning of the index. I >> wondered >> why those six names weren't there the first time. I checked the Individual >> Information Screen for each of the six but didn't see a problem. >> >> I also noticed that the Name Index was longer the 2nd time I ran the >> report. >> There were more people under several of the Surname headings then there >> had >> been the first time. I'll mention one instance - The2nd time my sister was >> included under Anderson as "Shirley Lou (Herson) (1928- )." She was not >> in the first printing, nor were several others, although she should have >> been. I made NO changes to the settings between the first and 2nd printing >> of the report. >> >> I did the File Maintainence/Check Report thing and the 3rd printing was >> the >> same as the 2nd with six individual showing under the (No Surname) section >> of the Name Index for no apparent reason. >> >> Does anyone have any thoughts on this? I've submitted this as a Problem >> Report. It would be nice to try something in the Publishing Center that >> didn't disclose a problem ;-) >> >> Tom Herson >> It
Re: [LegacyUG] Problems with Name Index in Book
I don't know how it occurred, but I solved the problem of the unamrried people who were appearing in the Surname Unknown section. I thought I'd take a look at the Family Group Sheet for these six people. The unmarried people each had an MRIN showing even theough they were not and never had been married. I went to the MRIN list and deleted that MRIN. The Surname Uknown section is now down to two names. Both thse people are married but I don't dare delete the MRIN and don't see that the MRIN is a duplicate. Any ideas? Tom Herson Ithaca, NY - Original Message - From: "ronald ferguson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, August 22, 2008 10:12 AM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Problems with Name Index in Book Tom, I cannot tell. What were your index settings? Is there any connection between your sister and Anderson eg AKA, married name, step father etc. etc. even in error (no offence to your family meant btw. just options)? I cannot offer an explanation as to why the first and second run were different, but sometimes things do seem to stick a bit and check/repair or closing/reopening can sort of bump start it. Ron Ferguson _ *New* Insert Pictures Into your Web Pages - Blogs http://www.fergys.co.uk View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Problems with Name Index in Book Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 09:15:21 -0400 Continuing to work with the Publishing Center's book feature, I just printed out Name Index for my major family. The first time one (1) name was shown at the beginning of the list in the (No surname) section. It was an "aka" name and I went to the proper place and fixed that. I re-ran and printed the Name Index. This time there were six (6) names listed in the (No Surname) section at the beginning of the index. I wondered why those six names weren't there the first time. I checked the Individual Information Screen for each of the six but didn't see a problem. I also noticed that the Name Index was longer the 2nd time I ran the report. There were more people under several of the Surname headings then there had been the first time. I'll mention one instance - The2nd time my sister was included under Anderson as "Shirley Lou (Herson) (1928- )." She was not in the first printing, nor were several others, although she should have been. I made NO changes to the settings between the first and 2nd printing of the report. I did the File Maintainence/Check Report thing and the 3rd printing was the same as the 2nd with six individual showing under the (No Surname) section of the Name Index for no apparent reason. Does anyone have any thoughts on this? I've submitted this as a Problem Report. It would be nice to try something in the Publishing Center that didn't disclose a problem ;-) Tom Herson Ithaca, NY _ Win New York holidays with Kellogg’s & Live Search http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/107571440/direct/01/ Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Problems with Name Index in Book
Ron, Anderson was my sister's married name so her entry is correct but just wasn't included the first time around. I mentioned that and similar occurance just to point out that there were differences between the first and scond printings (on screen). The real problem is with those six listed in the No Surname section. Five were never married and one was married. In the Name Index all six have their maiden names in parentheses following their given name. The index settings in the publishing center for this book are: Birth and Death Years on Names Include Alternate Names Include married names for wives It's really troublesome when obvious unexplained errors like this happen because it makes one wonder how many not so obvious errors occur. Tom Herson Ithaca, NY - Original Message - From: "ronald ferguson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, August 22, 2008 10:12 AM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Problems with Name Index in Book Tom, I cannot tell. What were your index settings? Is there any connection between your sister and Anderson eg AKA, married name, step father etc. etc. even in error (no offence to your family meant btw. just options)? I cannot offer an explanation as to why the first and second run were different, but sometimes things do seem to stick a bit and check/repair or closing/reopening can sort of bump start it. Ron Ferguson _ *New* Insert Pictures Into your Web Pages - Blogs http://www.fergys.co.uk View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Problems with Name Index in Book Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 09:15:21 -0400 Continuing to work with the Publishing Center's book feature, I just printed out Name Index for my major family. The first time one (1) name was shown at the beginning of the list in the (No surname) section. It was an "aka" name and I went to the proper place and fixed that. I re-ran and printed the Name Index. This time there were six (6) names listed in the (No Surname) section at the beginning of the index. I wondered why those six names weren't there the first time. I checked the Individual Information Screen for each of the six but didn't see a problem. I also noticed that the Name Index was longer the 2nd time I ran the report. There were more people under several of the Surname headings then there had been the first time. I'll mention one instance - The2nd time my sister was included under Anderson as "Shirley Lou (Herson) (1928- )." She was not in the first printing, nor were several others, although she should have been. I made NO changes to the settings between the first and 2nd printing of the report. I did the File Maintainence/Check Report thing and the 3rd printing was the same as the 2nd with six individual showing under the (No Surname) section of the Name Index for no apparent reason. Does anyone have any thoughts on this? I've submitted this as a Problem Report. It would be nice to try something in the Publishing Center that didn't disclose a problem ;-) Tom Herson Ithaca, NY _ Win New York holidays with Kellogg’s & Live Search http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/107571440/direct/01/ Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Problems with Name Index in Book
Tom, I cannot tell. What were your index settings? Is there any connection between your sister and Anderson eg AKA, married name, step father etc. etc. even in error (no offence to your family meant btw. just options)? I cannot offer an explanation as to why the first and second run were different, but sometimes things do seem to stick a bit and check/repair or closing/reopening can sort of bump start it. Ron Ferguson _ *New* Insert Pictures Into your Web Pages - Blogs http://www.fergys.co.uk View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com > Subject: [LegacyUG] Problems with Name Index in Book > Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 09:15:21 -0400 > > Continuing to work with the Publishing Center's book feature, I just printed > out Name Index for my major family. > > The first time one (1) name was shown at the beginning of the list in the > (No surname) section. It was an "aka" name and I went to the proper place > and fixed that. > > I re-ran and printed the Name Index. This time there were six (6) names > listed in the (No Surname) section at the beginning of the index. I wondered > why those six names weren't there the first time. I checked the Individual > Information Screen for each of the six but didn't see a problem. > > I also noticed that the Name Index was longer the 2nd time I ran the report. > There were more people under several of the Surname headings then there had > been the first time. I'll mention one instance - The2nd time my sister was > included under Anderson as "Shirley Lou (Herson) (1928- )." She was not > in the first printing, nor were several others, although she should have > been. I made NO changes to the settings between the first and 2nd printing > of the report. > > I did the File Maintainence/Check Report thing and the 3rd printing was the > same as the 2nd with six individual showing under the (No Surname) section > of the Name Index for no apparent reason. > > Does anyone have any thoughts on this? I've submitted this as a Problem > Report. It would be nice to try something in the Publishing Center that > didn't disclose a problem ;-) > > Tom Herson > Ithaca, NY > _ Win New York holidays with Kellogg’s & Live Search http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/107571440/direct/01/ Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
