RE: [LegacyUG] Sourcing Father/Mother Relationship Problem

2008-08-28 Thread ronald ferguson

Jennifer,

Sorry about the delay in coming back to you. but I up-date my website at the 
end of the month so during the last week of the month I get pretty busy.

You comprehensive report seems to confirm the observations which I made and 
your conclusion seems reasonable. If you haven't done so already I would submit 
the whole of your e-mail as a bug report.

Ron Ferguson

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> Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 16:41:02 -0700
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Sourcing Father/Mother Relationship Problem
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
>
> Ron,
>
> Thanks for taking a look at it as well. I have come up with the following:
>
> Basic Source A used to cite only husband's relationship to father and mother:
>
> Husband relationships: Father and mother - correct
> Wife relationships: Father and mother - Not sourced - correct
> Child-Par. Rel. for husband - no line appears, correct
> Child-Par. Rel. for wife - line incorrectly appears with incorrect husband's 
> Basic Source A cited (same as your outcome)
> Child-Par. Rel. line for children: None shows - correct, as they were not 
> sourced
>
> Basic Source B used to cite only wife's relationship to father and mother:
>
> Husband relationships: Father and mother - Not sourced - correct
> Wife relationships: Father and mother - Cited correctly with Source B
> No Child-Par. Rel. line for husband, wife, or children - correct
>
> Basic Source C used to cite only son's relationship to father and mother:
>
> Husband relationships: Father and mother - Not sourced - correct
> Wife relationships: Father and mother - Not sourced - correct
> Son's relationships: Father and mother - Cited correctly with Source C on 
> Child-Par. Rel. line
> No Child-Par Rel. line for husband or wife - correct
>
> SourceWriter Source D used to cite only husband's relationship to father and 
> mother:
>
> Husband relationships: Father and mother - Cited correctly with Source D
> Wife relationships: Father and mother - Not sourced - correct
> No Child-Par. Rel. line for husband or children - correct
> Child-Par. Rel. line for wife incorrectly cites husband's Source D; there 
> should not be a Child-Par. Rel. line for wife
>
> SourceWriter Source E used to cite only wife's relationship to father and 
> mother:
>
> Husband relationships: Father and mother - Not sourced - correct
> Wife relationships: Father and mother - Cited correctly with Source E
> No Child-Par. Rel. lines for husband, wife, or children - correct
>
> SourceWriter Source F used to cite only son's relationship to father and 
> mother:
>
> Husband relationships: Father and mother - Not sourced - correct
> Wife relationships: Father and mother - Not sourced - correct
> Son's relationships: Father and mother - Both sourced correctly on Child-Par. 
> Rel. line with Source F.
> No Child-Par Rel. line for husband or wife - correct
>
> FYI, I've also figured out that if I use either SourceWriter or Basic to 
> source the relationship for the youngest child's father and mother, the 
> Child-Par. Rel. line shows up on the husband using the source for the 
> youngest child's relationship to the mother and father. It only works for the 
> youngest child. I've tried doing it on all others, and no Child-Par. Rel. 
> line shows up for the husband. So, actually, the problem lies with
>
> A) Placing a either a Basic or SourceWriter source for father and mother on 
> the the husband causes the wife to have a "Child-Par Rel." line on the FGR.
>
> B) Placing either a Basic or SourceWriter source for father and mother on the 
> youngest child causes the husband to have a "Child-Par. Rel." line on the FGR.
>
> It's not the SourceWriter vs. Basic Source, but rather the husband and 
> youngest child.
>
> Jennifer
>
>
>
>
> --- On Fri, 8/22/08, ronald ferguson  wrote:
>
>> From: ronald ferguson 
>> Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Sourcing Father/Mother Relationship Problem
>> To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com
>> Date: Friday, August 22, 2008, 5:53 AM
>> Jennifer,
>>
>> Congrats on all the work which you have put in on this. I
>> have now had a chance to study effects in my own files, so
>> firstly let us agree on one thing - that there is not a
>> problem with the old style sources (

RE: [LegacyUG] Sourcing Father/Mother Relationship Problem

2008-08-22 Thread Jennifer Trahan
Ron,

Thanks for taking a look at it as well. I have come up with the following:

Basic Source A used to cite only husband's relationship to father and mother:

Husband relationships: Father and mother - correct
Wife relationships: Father and mother - Not sourced - correct
Child-Par. Rel. for husband - no line appears, correct
Child-Par. Rel. for wife - line incorrectly appears with incorrect husband's 
Basic Source A cited (same as your outcome)
Child-Par. Rel. line for children: None shows - correct, as they were not 
sourced

Basic Source B used to cite only wife's relationship to father and mother:

Husband relationships: Father and mother - Not sourced - correct
Wife relationships: Father and mother - Cited correctly with Source B
No Child-Par. Rel. line for husband, wife, or children - correct

Basic Source C used to cite only son's relationship to father and mother:

Husband relationships: Father and mother - Not sourced - correct
Wife relationships: Father and mother - Not sourced - correct
Son's relationships: Father and mother - Cited correctly with Source C on 
Child-Par. Rel. line
No Child-Par Rel. line for husband or wife - correct

SourceWriter Source D used to cite only husband's relationship to father and 
mother:

Husband relationships: Father and mother - Cited correctly with Source D
Wife relationships: Father and mother - Not sourced - correct
No Child-Par. Rel. line for husband or children - correct
Child-Par. Rel. line for wife incorrectly cites husband's Source D; there 
should not be a Child-Par. Rel. line for wife

SourceWriter Source E used to cite only wife's relationship to father and 
mother:

Husband relationships: Father and mother - Not sourced - correct
Wife relationships: Father and mother - Cited correctly with Source E
No Child-Par. Rel. lines for husband, wife, or children - correct

SourceWriter Source F used to cite only son's relationship to father and 
mother: 

Husband relationships: Father and mother - Not sourced - correct
Wife relationships: Father and mother - Not sourced - correct
Son's relationships: Father and mother - Both sourced correctly on Child-Par. 
Rel. line with Source F.
No Child-Par Rel. line for husband or wife - correct

FYI, I've also figured out that if I use either SourceWriter or Basic to source 
the relationship for the youngest child's father and mother, the Child-Par. 
Rel. line shows up on the husband using the source for the youngest child's 
relationship to the mother and father. It only works for the youngest child. 
I've tried doing it on all others, and no Child-Par. Rel. line shows up for the 
husband. So, actually, the problem lies with 

A) Placing a either a Basic or SourceWriter source for father and mother on the 
the husband causes the wife to have a "Child-Par Rel." line on the FGR.

B) Placing either a Basic or SourceWriter source for father and mother on the 
youngest child causes the husband to have a "Child-Par. Rel." line on the FGR.

It's not the SourceWriter vs. Basic Source, but rather the husband and youngest 
child.

Jennifer




--- On Fri, 8/22/08, ronald ferguson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> From: ronald ferguson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Sourcing Father/Mother Relationship Problem
> To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Date: Friday, August 22, 2008, 5:53 AM
> Jennifer,
> 
> Congrats on all the work which you have put in on this. I
> have now had a chance to study effects in my own files, so
> firstly let us agree on one thing - that there is not a
> problem with the old style sources (please exclude Child-Par
> Rel from this for the moment).
> 
> From now one I only used the Source Writer created sources,
> all in newly created files.
> 
> The initial one I did seemed to produce a load of rubbish
> regarding the sources. I closed Legacy and reopened and they
> then seemed OK, although with some entries which puzzled me.
> So I then entered the details for another new family. This
> again was OK - again, exclude Child-Par Rel. In the first I
> has used the wife as the main person and in the second the
> husband, all references were different to enable
> recognition).
> 
> Summary for the second (husband as main person), excluding
> Child-Par Rel.
> 
> Husband Relationships: Father and Mother - correct
> Mother Relationships: Father and Mother - correct
> Son: Relationship to both Mother and Father not given.
> 
> Child-Par Rel.
> 
> Husband: not given
> Wife: used the sources for the husband's relationship
> to *his* parents
> Son: used the sources for his relationship to his parents.
> 
> Other Children: I did not enter sources for these and no
> entries were made for any of the relationships.
> 
> 
> I am not sure what this means except that more

RE: [LegacyUG] Sourcing Father/Mother Relationship Problem

2008-08-22 Thread ronald ferguson

Jennifer,

Congrats on all the work which you have put in on this. I have now had a chance 
to study effects in my own files, so firstly let us agree on one thing - that 
there is not a problem with the old style sources (please exclude Child-Par Rel 
from this for the moment).

>From now one I only used the Source Writer created sources, all in newly 
>created files.

The initial one I did seemed to produce a load of rubbish regarding the 
sources. I closed Legacy and reopened and they then seemed OK, although with 
some entries which puzzled me. So I then entered the details for another new 
family. This again was OK - again, exclude Child-Par Rel. In the first I has 
used the wife as the main person and in the second the husband, all references 
were different to enable recognition).

Summary for the second (husband as main person), excluding Child-Par Rel.

Husband Relationships: Father and Mother - correct
Mother Relationships: Father and Mother - correct
Son: Relationship to both Mother and Father not given.

Child-Par Rel.

Husband: not given
Wife: used the sources for the husband's relationship to *his* parents
Son: used the sources for his relationship to his parents.

Other Children: I did not enter sources for these and no entries were made for 
any of the relationships.


I am not sure what this means except that more work is required to establish 
exactly what is going on! It may be that different circumstances are producing 
varying outputs and if so it is going to be a heck of a job to track down. It 
is also not clear when the Child-Par Rel will be created and how it selects the 
source(s) to use.

To anyone joining this thread, please leave previous emails attached to help 
check questions and answers. Many thanks.


Ron Ferguson

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> Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 16:42:34 -0700
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Sourcing Father/Mother Relationship Problem
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
>
>
> Elizabeth et al:
>
> I think I am finally getting somewhere. My sources were all SourceWriter. I 
> deleted all sources for Charles, Blanche, and all children for Mother and 
> Father Relationship. I then used a Basic source to source Charles' 
> relationships with his mother and father. When I did this, the "Child-Par 
> Rel." line disappears from underneath Charles and all is well with him. The 
> relationship is sourced correctly on the lines showing his parents' names. 
> However, the wife, Blanche, still has a line called "Child-Par Rel." and the 
> Basic Source I used for Charles is showing up here, though it is not attached 
> to Blanche for Father Rel. or Mother Rel.
>
> Now, I also then went back and deleted this Basic Source from Charles for 
> Father Rel. and Mother Rel. I then put it on Blanche for Father Rel. and 
> Mother Rel. Now my family group sheet looks fine. So it appears to be a 
> problem with SourceWriter and with the husband. Whew! Bug found! Now I will 
> report it to Support. Thanks everyone for all your help!
>
> --- On Thu, 8/21/08, Elizabeth Richardson  wrote:
>
>> From: Elizabeth Richardson 
>> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Sourcing Father/Mother Relationship Problem
>> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
>> Date: Thursday, August 21, 2008, 6:18 PM
>> In a FGS, the parents of both the husband and wife are
>> shown, when known,
>> whether or not the relationship is defined and/or sourced.
>> If it is defined
>> and sourced, the source shows. When the child/parent
>> relationship is defined
>> and sourced, and the person is a child on the FGS, there is
>> a Child-Par.
>> Rel. line, the relationship is defined and the source
>> given. I use the Basic
>> Source only.
>>
>> Elizabeth
>> researching the descendants of William and Sarah
>> (Patterson) Thompson
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Jennifer Trahan"
>> 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2008 2:59 PM
>> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Sourcing Father/Mother Relationship
>> Problem
>>
>>
>>> Elizabeth,
>>>
>>> Yes, you are correct in understanding what I am
>> saying. Do you have an
>>> extra line on your family group sheet called
>> "Child-Par. Rel." under the
>>> wife's name? This is where I am finding the
>> problem. In the family group
>>> sheet with 

Re: [LegacyUG] Sourcing Father/Mother Relationship Problem

2008-08-21 Thread Jennifer Trahan

Elizabeth et al:

I think I am finally getting somewhere. My sources were all SourceWriter. I 
deleted all sources for Charles, Blanche, and all children for Mother and 
Father Relationship. I then used a Basic source to source Charles' 
relationships with his mother and father. When I did this, the "Child-Par Rel." 
line disappears from underneath Charles and all is well with him. The 
relationship is sourced correctly on the lines showing his parents' names. 
However, the wife, Blanche, still has a line called "Child-Par Rel." and the 
Basic Source I used for Charles is showing up here, though it is not attached 
to Blanche for Father Rel. or Mother Rel. 

Now, I also then went back and deleted this Basic Source from Charles for 
Father Rel. and Mother Rel. I then put it on Blanche for Father Rel. and Mother 
Rel. Now my family group sheet looks fine. So it appears to be a problem with 
SourceWriter and with the husband. Whew! Bug found! Now I will report it to 
Support. Thanks everyone for all your help!

--- On Thu, 8/21/08, Elizabeth Richardson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> From: Elizabeth Richardson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Sourcing Father/Mother Relationship Problem
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Date: Thursday, August 21, 2008, 6:18 PM
> In a FGS, the parents of both the husband and wife are
> shown, when known, 
> whether or not the relationship is defined and/or sourced.
> If it is defined 
> and sourced, the source shows. When the child/parent
> relationship is defined 
> and sourced, and the person is a child on the FGS, there is
> a Child-Par. 
> Rel. line, the relationship is defined and the source
> given. I use the Basic 
> Source only.
> 
> Elizabeth
> researching the descendants of William and Sarah
> (Patterson) Thompson
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Jennifer Trahan"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2008 2:59 PM
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Sourcing Father/Mother Relationship
> Problem
> 
> 
> > Elizabeth,
> >
> > Yes, you are correct in understanding what I am
> saying. Do you have an 
> > extra line on your family group sheet called
> "Child-Par. Rel." under the 
> > wife's name? This is where I am finding the
> problem. In the family group 
> > sheet with Charles as husband, the line containing
> Charles' father's name 
> > says "Jeremiah Pemberton...(Relationship)"
> and correctly sources the 
> > relationship here. I think this "Child-Par.
> Rel." line is only supposed to 
> > show up on the children and not on the husband and
> wife. Please let me 
> > know if you have this line. Thanks!
> >
> > Jennifer
> >
> >
> > --- On Thu, 8/21/08, Elizabeth Richardson
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> > wrote:
> >
> >> From: Elizabeth Richardson
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Sourcing Father/Mother
> Relationship Problem
> >> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> >> Date: Thursday, August 21, 2008, 2:31 PM
> >> If I understand what you are doing: you have
> Charles
> >> relationship to his
> >> parents sourced, but when you choose that option
> when he is
> >> the parent, you
> >> are expecting to see the source of this
> relationship in a
> >> family group
> >> sheet. When I do this, I get the anticipated
> result. That
> >> is, I have a child
> >> whose relationship is biological and have sourced
> that
> >> information. This
> >> relationship with her father, biological, is
> stated on her
> >> family group
> >> record when she is a mother, and it is sourced
> correctly. I
> >> have 7.0.0.55,
> >> so I do not think this is a bug, at least in the
> Basic
> >> Source system.
> >>
> >> Elizabeth
> >> researching the descendants of William and Sarah
> >> (Patterson) Thompson
> >>
> >> - Original Message - 
> >> From: "Jennifer Trahan"
> >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> To: 
> >> Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 5:50 PM
> >> Subject: [LegacyUG] Sourcing Father/Mother
> Relationship
> >> Problem
> >>
> >>
> >> >I recently began sourcing father and mother
> >> relationships since Legacy
> >> >gives the option to do so. For example,
> Charles
> >> Pemberton is shown in the
> >> >1860 U.S. Census with his father and mother,
> Jeremiah
> >> and Susanna
> >> &

Re: [LegacyUG] Sourcing Father/Mother Relationship Problem

2008-08-21 Thread Elizabeth Richardson
Let me try answering this again. I have sourced Sallie Thompson as the 
biological daughter of Andrew Thompson. On the FGS where Sallie is the wife 
is:


Father: Andrew Thompson (1780-abt1865) (Relationship: Biological[source#])

This is all on one line and there is not an additional line called 
Child-Par. Rel. on the FGS when Sallie is the wife. That line appears only 
when Sallie is the child.


Elizabeth
researching the descendants of William and Sarah (Patterson) Thompson

- Original Message - 
From: "Jennifer Trahan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2008 2:59 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Sourcing Father/Mother Relationship Problem



Elizabeth,

Yes, you are correct in understanding what I am saying. Do you have an 
extra line on your family group sheet called "Child-Par. Rel." under the 
wife's name? This is where I am finding the problem. In the family group 
sheet with Charles as husband, the line containing Charles' father's name 
says "Jeremiah Pemberton...(Relationship)" and correctly sources the 
relationship here. I think this "Child-Par. Rel." line is only supposed to 
show up on the children and not on the husband and wife. Please let me 
know if you have this line. Thanks!


Jennifer


--- On Thu, 8/21/08, Elizabeth Richardson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:



From: Elizabeth Richardson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Sourcing Father/Mother Relationship Problem
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Date: Thursday, August 21, 2008, 2:31 PM
If I understand what you are doing: you have Charles
relationship to his
parents sourced, but when you choose that option when he is
the parent, you
are expecting to see the source of this relationship in a
family group
sheet. When I do this, I get the anticipated result. That
is, I have a child
whose relationship is biological and have sourced that
information. This
relationship with her father, biological, is stated on her
family group
record when she is a mother, and it is sourced correctly. I
have 7.0.0.55,
so I do not think this is a bug, at least in the Basic
Source system.

Elizabeth
researching the descendants of William and Sarah
(Patterson) Thompson

- Original Message - 
From: "Jennifer Trahan"

<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 5:50 PM
Subject: [LegacyUG] Sourcing Father/Mother Relationship
Problem


>I recently began sourcing father and mother
relationships since Legacy
>gives the option to do so. For example, Charles
Pemberton is shown in the
>1860 U.S. Census with his father and mother, Jeremiah
and Susanna
>Pemberton. On the assigned sources screen for Charles,
I have Father Rel:
>1860 U.S. Census - Michigan, Wayne and the same thing
for Mother Rel. When
>I create Charles' family group record (with him as
husband), I go to report
>options and select "Child-Parent
Relationships" on the Include tab. In the
>family group record, a new line for Charles shows up
called "Child-Par
>Rel." I would expect to see the 1860 U.S. Census
source referenced here,
>but it is not. For Charles' youngest child, Nellie,
on her assigned sources
>screen, I have referenced 3 of her marriage records to
Father Rel. and
>Mother Rel. These 3 marriage records show up in the
Child-Par. Rel. field
>for Charles. They also show up for Nellie under
Child-Par. Rel. They are
>supposed to show up
> for Nellie in that field, but why are they showing up
for Charles?
> Shouldn't this field be for sources showing
Charles' relationship to his
> parents and not his children's relationship to
him?
>
> To confuse matters, for Charles' other children
(Susanna, Dewey,
> Whitfield, and Martha), I have sourced their
individual marriage records
> to Father Rel. and Mother Rel. on their individual
assigned sources
> screens. These do NOT show up in Charles'
Child-Par Rel. field on the
> Family Group Record. I have no idea why Nellie's
randomly shows up
> incorrectly and not the other childrens'. Why
don't they all show up
> incorrectly?
>
> And, finally, to confuse matters again, in the
Child-Par. Rel. field for
> Charles' wife, Blanche, the 1860 U.S. Census -
Michigan, Wayne for the
> household of Jeremiah and Susanna Pemberton is
referenced. However,
> Blanche was a child in 1860 and not yet married to
Charles. She did not
> live in the household of Charles and his parents, and
neither is this
> source accidentally attached to her anywhere in her
assigned sources
> screen.
>
> I have double checked all source citations on all the
individuals'
> assigned sources screen to make sure I did not attach
a source
> incorrectly.
>
> Is this a bug of some sort? Has anyone else had this
problem? I did a
> check/repair file just to make sure, a

Re: [LegacyUG] Sourcing Father/Mother Relationship Problem

2008-08-21 Thread Elizabeth Richardson
In a FGS, the parents of both the husband and wife are shown, when known, 
whether or not the relationship is defined and/or sourced. If it is defined 
and sourced, the source shows. When the child/parent relationship is defined 
and sourced, and the person is a child on the FGS, there is a Child-Par. 
Rel. line, the relationship is defined and the source given. I use the Basic 
Source only.


Elizabeth
researching the descendants of William and Sarah (Patterson) Thompson

- Original Message - 
From: "Jennifer Trahan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2008 2:59 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Sourcing Father/Mother Relationship Problem



Elizabeth,

Yes, you are correct in understanding what I am saying. Do you have an 
extra line on your family group sheet called "Child-Par. Rel." under the 
wife's name? This is where I am finding the problem. In the family group 
sheet with Charles as husband, the line containing Charles' father's name 
says "Jeremiah Pemberton...(Relationship)" and correctly sources the 
relationship here. I think this "Child-Par. Rel." line is only supposed to 
show up on the children and not on the husband and wife. Please let me 
know if you have this line. Thanks!


Jennifer


--- On Thu, 8/21/08, Elizabeth Richardson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:



From: Elizabeth Richardson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Sourcing Father/Mother Relationship Problem
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Date: Thursday, August 21, 2008, 2:31 PM
If I understand what you are doing: you have Charles
relationship to his
parents sourced, but when you choose that option when he is
the parent, you
are expecting to see the source of this relationship in a
family group
sheet. When I do this, I get the anticipated result. That
is, I have a child
whose relationship is biological and have sourced that
information. This
relationship with her father, biological, is stated on her
family group
record when she is a mother, and it is sourced correctly. I
have 7.0.0.55,
so I do not think this is a bug, at least in the Basic
Source system.

Elizabeth
researching the descendants of William and Sarah
(Patterson) Thompson

- Original Message - 
From: "Jennifer Trahan"

<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 5:50 PM
Subject: [LegacyUG] Sourcing Father/Mother Relationship
Problem


>I recently began sourcing father and mother
relationships since Legacy
>gives the option to do so. For example, Charles
Pemberton is shown in the
>1860 U.S. Census with his father and mother, Jeremiah
and Susanna
>Pemberton. On the assigned sources screen for Charles,
I have Father Rel:
>1860 U.S. Census - Michigan, Wayne and the same thing
for Mother Rel. When
>I create Charles' family group record (with him as
husband), I go to report
>options and select "Child-Parent
Relationships" on the Include tab. In the
>family group record, a new line for Charles shows up
called "Child-Par
>Rel." I would expect to see the 1860 U.S. Census
source referenced here,
>but it is not. For Charles' youngest child, Nellie,
on her assigned sources
>screen, I have referenced 3 of her marriage records to
Father Rel. and
>Mother Rel. These 3 marriage records show up in the
Child-Par. Rel. field
>for Charles. They also show up for Nellie under
Child-Par. Rel. They are
>supposed to show up
> for Nellie in that field, but why are they showing up
for Charles?
> Shouldn't this field be for sources showing
Charles' relationship to his
> parents and not his children's relationship to
him?
>
> To confuse matters, for Charles' other children
(Susanna, Dewey,
> Whitfield, and Martha), I have sourced their
individual marriage records
> to Father Rel. and Mother Rel. on their individual
assigned sources
> screens. These do NOT show up in Charles'
Child-Par Rel. field on the
> Family Group Record. I have no idea why Nellie's
randomly shows up
> incorrectly and not the other childrens'. Why
don't they all show up
> incorrectly?
>
> And, finally, to confuse matters again, in the
Child-Par. Rel. field for
> Charles' wife, Blanche, the 1860 U.S. Census -
Michigan, Wayne for the
> household of Jeremiah and Susanna Pemberton is
referenced. However,
> Blanche was a child in 1860 and not yet married to
Charles. She did not
> live in the household of Charles and his parents, and
neither is this
> source accidentally attached to her anywhere in her
assigned sources
> screen.
>
> I have double checked all source citations on all the
individuals'
> assigned sources screen to make sure I did not attach
a source
> incorrectly.
>
> Is this a bug of some sort? Has anyone else had this
problem? I did a
> check/repair file just to make sure, a

Re: [LegacyUG] Sourcing Father/Mother Relationship Problem

2008-08-21 Thread Jennifer Trahan
Elizabeth,

Yes, you are correct in understanding what I am saying. Do you have an extra 
line on your family group sheet called "Child-Par. Rel." under the wife's name? 
This is where I am finding the problem. In the family group sheet with Charles 
as husband, the line containing Charles' father's name says "Jeremiah 
Pemberton...(Relationship)" and correctly sources the relationship here. I 
think this "Child-Par. Rel." line is only supposed to show up on the children 
and not on the husband and wife. Please let me know if you have this line. 
Thanks!

Jennifer


--- On Thu, 8/21/08, Elizabeth Richardson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> From: Elizabeth Richardson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Sourcing Father/Mother Relationship Problem
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Date: Thursday, August 21, 2008, 2:31 PM
> If I understand what you are doing: you have Charles
> relationship to his 
> parents sourced, but when you choose that option when he is
> the parent, you 
> are expecting to see the source of this relationship in a
> family group 
> sheet. When I do this, I get the anticipated result. That
> is, I have a child 
> whose relationship is biological and have sourced that
> information. This 
> relationship with her father, biological, is stated on her
> family group 
> record when she is a mother, and it is sourced correctly. I
> have 7.0.0.55, 
> so I do not think this is a bug, at least in the Basic
> Source system.
> 
> Elizabeth
> researching the descendants of William and Sarah
> (Patterson) Thompson
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Jennifer Trahan"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 5:50 PM
> Subject: [LegacyUG] Sourcing Father/Mother Relationship
> Problem
> 
> 
> >I recently began sourcing father and mother
> relationships since Legacy 
> >gives the option to do so. For example, Charles
> Pemberton is shown in the 
> >1860 U.S. Census with his father and mother, Jeremiah
> and Susanna 
> >Pemberton. On the assigned sources screen for Charles,
> I have Father Rel: 
> >1860 U.S. Census - Michigan, Wayne and the same thing
> for Mother Rel. When 
> >I create Charles' family group record (with him as
> husband), I go to report 
> >options and select "Child-Parent
> Relationships" on the Include tab. In the 
> >family group record, a new line for Charles shows up
> called "Child-Par 
> >Rel." I would expect to see the 1860 U.S. Census
> source referenced here, 
> >but it is not. For Charles' youngest child, Nellie,
> on her assigned sources 
> >screen, I have referenced 3 of her marriage records to
> Father Rel. and 
> >Mother Rel. These 3 marriage records show up in the
> Child-Par. Rel. field 
> >for Charles. They also show up for Nellie under
> Child-Par. Rel. They are 
> >supposed to show up
> > for Nellie in that field, but why are they showing up
> for Charles? 
> > Shouldn't this field be for sources showing
> Charles' relationship to his 
> > parents and not his children's relationship to
> him?
> >
> > To confuse matters, for Charles' other children
> (Susanna, Dewey, 
> > Whitfield, and Martha), I have sourced their
> individual marriage records 
> > to Father Rel. and Mother Rel. on their individual
> assigned sources 
> > screens. These do NOT show up in Charles'
> Child-Par Rel. field on the 
> > Family Group Record. I have no idea why Nellie's
> randomly shows up 
> > incorrectly and not the other childrens'. Why
> don't they all show up 
> > incorrectly?
> >
> > And, finally, to confuse matters again, in the
> Child-Par. Rel. field for 
> > Charles' wife, Blanche, the 1860 U.S. Census -
> Michigan, Wayne for the 
> > household of Jeremiah and Susanna Pemberton is
> referenced. However, 
> > Blanche was a child in 1860 and not yet married to
> Charles. She did not 
> > live in the household of Charles and his parents, and
> neither is this 
> > source accidentally attached to her anywhere in her
> assigned sources 
> > screen.
> >
> > I have double checked all source citations on all the
> individuals' 
> > assigned sources screen to make sure I did not attach
> a source 
> > incorrectly.
> >
> > Is this a bug of some sort? Has anyone else had this
> problem? I did a 
> > check/repair file just to make sure, and the same
> problem occurs. I've 
> > also noticed once before on my file ID report that for
> father rel

Re: [LegacyUG] Sourcing Father/Mother Relationship Problem

2008-08-21 Thread Jessica Morgan
I'm on V 7.0.0.55 and can also confirm something not quite right I
tagged a set of about 20 people, half related, half not.
About 17 of the 20 people are sourced to the same document - with original
V6 sourcing, the rest are not.
I then CREATED a BRAND NEW source using the Source Writer and attached it to
ONE person's child-parent relationship. (Myself to my mother). I called this
source "Test" and filled in most of the data as test1, test2, etc. to be
absolutely certain of it's references.

I then ran the family group sheet on Tag 3.

All relationships were sourced correctly EXCEPT the Test source created with
the source writer. It was linked to my child-parent relationship with both
my mother and my father.

Jess M





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> On Wed, 20 Aug 2008 18:50:20 -0700 (PDT), Jennifer Trahan
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >Is this a bug of some sort?
>
> I have just tried sourcing a few child-parent relationships and am
> getting very strange results on the Family Group Record in V6.
>
> I sourced mine with source A and my daughter's with source B (I did not
> source my wife). The FGS shows me and my daughter with source B, and my
> wife with source A. So something is fishy...
>
> If you are using V7, I suggest you report your findings to
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] as a bug along with the steps they need to
> take to reproduce the problem.
>
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Sourcing Father/Mother Relationship Problem

2008-08-21 Thread Elizabeth Richardson
If I understand what you are doing: you have Charles relationship to his 
parents sourced, but when you choose that option when he is the parent, you 
are expecting to see the source of this relationship in a family group 
sheet. When I do this, I get the anticipated result. That is, I have a child 
whose relationship is biological and have sourced that information. This 
relationship with her father, biological, is stated on her family group 
record when she is a mother, and it is sourced correctly. I have 7.0.0.55, 
so I do not think this is a bug, at least in the Basic Source system.


Elizabeth
researching the descendants of William and Sarah (Patterson) Thompson

- Original Message - 
From: "Jennifer Trahan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 5:50 PM
Subject: [LegacyUG] Sourcing Father/Mother Relationship Problem


I recently began sourcing father and mother relationships since Legacy 
gives the option to do so. For example, Charles Pemberton is shown in the 
1860 U.S. Census with his father and mother, Jeremiah and Susanna 
Pemberton. On the assigned sources screen for Charles, I have Father Rel: 
1860 U.S. Census - Michigan, Wayne and the same thing for Mother Rel. When 
I create Charles' family group record (with him as husband), I go to report 
options and select "Child-Parent Relationships" on the Include tab. In the 
family group record, a new line for Charles shows up called "Child-Par 
Rel." I would expect to see the 1860 U.S. Census source referenced here, 
but it is not. For Charles' youngest child, Nellie, on her assigned sources 
screen, I have referenced 3 of her marriage records to Father Rel. and 
Mother Rel. These 3 marriage records show up in the Child-Par. Rel. field 
for Charles. They also show up for Nellie under Child-Par. Rel. They are 
supposed to show up
for Nellie in that field, but why are they showing up for Charles? 
Shouldn't this field be for sources showing Charles' relationship to his 
parents and not his children's relationship to him?


To confuse matters, for Charles' other children (Susanna, Dewey, 
Whitfield, and Martha), I have sourced their individual marriage records 
to Father Rel. and Mother Rel. on their individual assigned sources 
screens. These do NOT show up in Charles' Child-Par Rel. field on the 
Family Group Record. I have no idea why Nellie's randomly shows up 
incorrectly and not the other childrens'. Why don't they all show up 
incorrectly?


And, finally, to confuse matters again, in the Child-Par. Rel. field for 
Charles' wife, Blanche, the 1860 U.S. Census - Michigan, Wayne for the 
household of Jeremiah and Susanna Pemberton is referenced. However, 
Blanche was a child in 1860 and not yet married to Charles. She did not 
live in the household of Charles and his parents, and neither is this 
source accidentally attached to her anywhere in her assigned sources 
screen.


I have double checked all source citations on all the individuals' 
assigned sources screen to make sure I did not attach a source 
incorrectly.


Is this a bug of some sort? Has anyone else had this problem? I did a 
check/repair file just to make sure, and the same problem occurs. I've 
also noticed once before on my file ID report that for father rel. and 
mother rel. citations, the wrong name shows up for a particular file ID. I 
think I will quit sourcing father/mother relationships for now and not 
include them in my family group record. However, I would like to be able 
to do so in the future.


Jennifer Trahan






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Re: [LegacyUG] Sourcing Father/Mother Relationship Problem

2008-08-21 Thread Dennis M . Kowallek
On Wed, 20 Aug 2008 18:50:20 -0700 (PDT), Jennifer Trahan
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>Is this a bug of some sort?

I have just tried sourcing a few child-parent relationships and am
getting very strange results on the Family Group Record in V6.

I sourced mine with source A and my daughter's with source B (I did not
source my wife). The FGS shows me and my daughter with source B, and my
wife with source A. So something is fishy...

If you are using V7, I suggest you report your findings to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] as a bug along with the steps they need to
take to reproduce the problem.
 
-- 

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Re: [LegacyUG] Sourcing Father/Mother Relationship Problem

2008-08-21 Thread Jennifer Trahan
Dennis:

Sorry, forgot to mention that. It is 7.0.0.55. I never tried sourcing 
relationships in any previous version, so I couldn't say whether there was a 
problem or not in the past.

Jennifer


--- On Thu, 8/21/08, Dennis M. Kowallek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> From: Dennis M. Kowallek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Sourcing Father/Mother Relationship Problem
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Date: Thursday, August 21, 2008, 1:23 PM
> On Thu, 21 Aug 2008 10:59:48 -0700 (PDT), Jennifer Trahan
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> >Dennis: I have done a file maintenance/check repair.
> The same thing keeps occuring. I ran some other family group
> sheets on other families, and the same kinds of things also
> occurred. I have a second database. I will try it with that
> one tonight. 
> >
> >Ron: Thanks in advance for taking a look at it when you
> get time.
> >
> >It's almost like Legacy is taking the youngest
> child's sources for Child-Parent Relationship and moving
> them to the husband and taking the husband's and moving
> them to the wife. What I didn't add earlier is that
> under the husband, Charles, on the line for his father,
> after his father's name, it shows
> "(Relationship)" with the 1860 U.S. Census
> properly cited here. This does the same thing for the wife,
> Blanche, with the sources for her properly cited. I am
> beginning to think this is what the Child-Parent
> Relatiosnhips is supposed to look like on the family group
> sheet for the husband and wife, so I'm not sure why it
> adds an extra line called "Child-Par Rel." with
> the wrong sources attached. Maybe this extra line called
> "Child-Par Rel." is only supposed to be added for
> the children of Charles and Blanche, since there would be no
> line under each child for "Father" and
> "Mother." The children all seem to have the proper
> sources on this "Child-Par Rel." line.
> 
> Did you mention what version of Legacy you are running?
>  
> -- 
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Re: [LegacyUG] Sourcing Father/Mother Relationship Problem

2008-08-21 Thread Dennis M . Kowallek
On Thu, 21 Aug 2008 10:59:48 -0700 (PDT), Jennifer Trahan
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>Dennis: I have done a file maintenance/check repair. The same thing keeps 
>occuring. I ran some other family group sheets on other families, and the same 
>kinds of things also occurred. I have a second database. I will try it with 
>that one tonight. 
>
>Ron: Thanks in advance for taking a look at it when you get time.
>
>It's almost like Legacy is taking the youngest child's sources for 
>Child-Parent Relationship and moving them to the husband and taking the 
>husband's and moving them to the wife. What I didn't add earlier is that under 
>the husband, Charles, on the line for his father, after his father's name, it 
>shows "(Relationship)" with the 1860 U.S. Census properly cited here. This 
>does the same thing for the wife, Blanche, with the sources for her properly 
>cited. I am beginning to think this is what the Child-Parent Relatiosnhips is 
>supposed to look like on the family group sheet for the husband and wife, so 
>I'm not sure why it adds an extra line called "Child-Par Rel." with the wrong 
>sources attached. Maybe this extra line called "Child-Par Rel." is only 
>supposed to be added for the children of Charles and Blanche, since there 
>would be no line under each child for "Father" and "Mother." The children all 
>seem to have the proper sources on this "Child-Par Rel." line.

Did you mention what version of Legacy you are running?
 
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RE: [LegacyUG] Sourcing Father/Mother Relationship Problem

2008-08-21 Thread Jennifer Trahan
Dennis: I have done a file maintenance/check repair. The same thing keeps 
occuring. I ran some other family group sheets on other families, and the same 
kinds of things also occurred. I have a second database. I will try it with 
that one tonight. 

Ron: Thanks in advance for taking a look at it when you get time.

It's almost like Legacy is taking the youngest child's sources for Child-Parent 
Relationship and moving them to the husband and taking the husband's and moving 
them to the wife. What I didn't add earlier is that under the husband, Charles, 
on the line for his father, after his father's name, it shows "(Relationship)" 
with the 1860 U.S. Census properly cited here. This does the same thing for the 
wife, Blanche, with the sources for her properly cited. I am beginning to think 
this is what the Child-Parent Relatiosnhips is supposed to look like on the 
family group sheet for the husband and wife, so I'm not sure why it adds an 
extra line called "Child-Par Rel." with the wrong sources attached. Maybe this 
extra line called "Child-Par Rel." is only supposed to be added for the 
children of Charles and Blanche, since there would be no line under each child 
for "Father" and "Mother." The children all seem to have the proper sources on 
this "Child-Par Rel." line.

Jennifer


--- On Thu, 8/21/08, ronald ferguson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> From: ronald ferguson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Sourcing Father/Mother Relationship Problem
> To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Date: Thursday, August 21, 2008, 11:27 AM
> Dennis,
> 
> I do agree, but this morning I was on my way out and have
> only just returned. On a quick read through the email I was
> not convinced anything is wrong, or to be more accurate, if
> there is, it is somewhat less then supposed.
> 
> It is still unlikely that I will be able to do a proper
> comparison this evening, but will be able to take a look
> tomorrow.
> 
> Ron Ferguson
> 
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> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> > Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Sourcing Father/Mother
> Relationship Problem
> > Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 07:34:59 -0400
> >
> > On Thu, 21 Aug 2008 08:51:35 +0100, ronald ferguson 
> > wrote:
> >
> >>Without at least doing a File Maintenance/Check
> Repair on the files I would be very loath to say
> "it's a bug", it could well be due to
> corrupted files
> >
> > If something gets corrupted, I would be more inclined
> to lean toward a
> > .usr file. Maybe closing Legacy and deleting FGS.usr
> might be in order.
> >
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RE: [LegacyUG] Sourcing Father/Mother Relationship Problem

2008-08-21 Thread ronald ferguson


Dennis,

I do agree, but this morning I was on my way out and have only just returned. 
On a quick read through the email I was not convinced anything is wrong, or to 
be more accurate, if there is, it is somewhat less then supposed.

It is still unlikely that I will be able to do a proper comparison this 
evening, but will be able to take a look tomorrow.

Ron Ferguson

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> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Sourcing Father/Mother Relationship Problem
> Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 07:34:59 -0400
>
> On Thu, 21 Aug 2008 08:51:35 +0100, ronald ferguson 
> wrote:
>
>>Without at least doing a File Maintenance/Check Repair on the files I would 
>>be very loath to say "it's a bug", it could well be due to corrupted files
>
> If something gets corrupted, I would be more inclined to lean toward a
> .usr file. Maybe closing Legacy and deleting FGS.usr might be in order.
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Sourcing Father/Mother Relationship Problem

2008-08-21 Thread Dennis M . Kowallek
On Thu, 21 Aug 2008 08:51:35 +0100, ronald ferguson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

>Without at least doing a File Maintenance/Check Repair on the files I would be 
>very loath to say "it's a bug", it could well be due to corrupted files

If something gets corrupted, I would be more inclined to lean toward a
.usr file. Maybe closing Legacy and deleting FGS.usr might be in order.
 
-- 

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RE: [LegacyUG] Sourcing Father/Mother Relationship Problem

2008-08-21 Thread ronald ferguson

Kirsten,

Without at least doing a File Maintenance/Check Repair on the files I would be 
very loath to say "it's a bug", it could well be due to corrupted files or 
incorrect entries (and I have no time to check this today), and these are just 
two possibilities off the top of my head. It should be remembered that many of 
the problems initially described on LUG as a bug turn out to be an "Oh! I 
thought I'd set that" or a misunderstanding as to what the expected 
input/output should be.


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> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Sourcing Father/Mother Relationship Problem
> Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 23:10:02 -0700
>
> Jennifer:
>
> Without doing extensive testing, I can see that the relationship sources are
> scrambled as you say. If you report this bug I'm sure it will be corrected,
> and the fix will be retroactive so any of those sources that you've already
> entered will then print correctly.
>
> Kirsten
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Jennifer
> Trahan
> Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 6:50 PM
> To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Subject: [LegacyUG] Sourcing Father/Mother Relationship Problem
>
>
> I recently began sourcing father and mother relationships since Legacy gives
> the option to do so. For example, Charles Pemberton is shown in the 1860
> U.S. Census with his father and mother, Jeremiah and Susanna Pemberton. On
> the assigned sources screen for Charles, I have Father Rel: 1860 U.S.
> Census - Michigan, Wayne and the same thing for Mother Rel. When I create
> Charles' family group record (with him as husband), I go to report options
> and select "Child-Parent Relationships" on the Include tab. In the family
> group record, a new line for Charles shows up called "Child-Par Rel." I
> would expect to see the 1860 U.S. Census source referenced here, but it is
> not. For Charles' youngest child, Nellie, on her assigned sources screen, I
> have referenced 3 of her marriage records to Father Rel. and Mother Rel.
> These 3 marriage records show up in the Child-Par. Rel. field for Charles.
> They also show up for Nellie under Child-Par. Rel. They are supposed to show
> up
> for Nellie in that field, but why are they showing up for Charles?
> Shouldn't this field be for sources showing Charles' relationship to his
> parents and not his children's relationship to him?
>
> To confuse matters, for Charles' other children (Susanna, Dewey, Whitfield,
> and Martha), I have sourced their individual marriage records to Father Rel.
> and Mother Rel. on their individual assigned sources screens. These do NOT
> show up in Charles' Child-Par Rel. field on the Family Group Record. I have
> no idea why Nellie's randomly shows up incorrectly and not the other
> childrens'. Why don't they all show up incorrectly?
>
> And, finally, to confuse matters again, in the Child-Par. Rel. field for
> Charles' wife, Blanche, the 1860 U.S. Census - Michigan, Wayne for the
> household of Jeremiah and Susanna Pemberton is referenced. However, Blanche
> was a child in 1860 and not yet married to Charles. She did not live in the
> household of Charles and his parents, and neither is this source
> accidentally attached to her anywhere in her assigned sources screen.
>
> I have double checked all source citations on all the individuals' assigned
> sources screen to make sure I did not attach a source incorrectly.
>
> Is this a bug of some sort? Has anyone else had this problem? I did a
> check/repair file just to make sure, and the same problem occurs. I've also
> noticed once before on my file ID report that for father rel. and mother
> rel. citations, the wrong name shows up for a particular file ID. I think I
> will quit sourcing father/mother relationships for now and not include them
> in my family group record. However, I would like to be able to do so in the
> future.
>
> Jennifer Trahan
>
>
>

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RE: [LegacyUG] Sourcing Father/Mother Relationship Problem

2008-08-20 Thread Kirsten Bowman
Jennifer:

Without doing extensive testing, I can see that the relationship sources are
scrambled as you say.  If you report this bug I'm sure it will be corrected,
and the fix will be retroactive so any of those sources that you've already
entered will then print correctly.

Kirsten

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Subject: [LegacyUG] Sourcing Father/Mother Relationship Problem


I recently began sourcing father and mother relationships since Legacy gives
the option to do so. For example, Charles Pemberton is shown in the 1860
U.S. Census with his father and mother, Jeremiah and Susanna Pemberton. On
the assigned sources screen for Charles, I have Father Rel: 1860 U.S.
Census - Michigan, Wayne and the same thing for Mother Rel. When I create
Charles' family group record (with him as husband), I go to report options
and select "Child-Parent Relationships" on the Include tab. In the family
group record, a new line for Charles shows up called "Child-Par Rel." I
would expect to see the 1860 U.S. Census source referenced here, but it is
not. For Charles' youngest child, Nellie, on her assigned sources screen, I
have referenced 3 of her marriage records to Father Rel. and Mother Rel.
These 3 marriage records show up in the Child-Par. Rel. field for Charles.
They also show up for Nellie under Child-Par. Rel. They are supposed to show
up
 for Nellie in that field, but why are they showing up for Charles?
Shouldn't this field be for sources showing Charles' relationship to his
parents and not his children's relationship to him?

To confuse matters, for Charles' other children (Susanna, Dewey, Whitfield,
and Martha), I have sourced their individual marriage records to Father Rel.
and Mother Rel. on their individual assigned sources screens. These do NOT
show up in Charles' Child-Par Rel. field on the Family Group Record. I have
no idea why Nellie's randomly shows up incorrectly and not the other
childrens'. Why don't they all show up incorrectly?

And, finally, to confuse matters again, in the Child-Par. Rel. field for
Charles' wife, Blanche, the 1860 U.S. Census - Michigan, Wayne for the
household of Jeremiah and Susanna Pemberton is referenced. However, Blanche
was a child in 1860 and not yet married to Charles. She did not live in the
household of Charles and his parents, and neither is this source
accidentally attached to her anywhere in her assigned sources screen.

I have double checked all source citations on all the individuals' assigned
sources screen to make sure I did not attach a source incorrectly.

Is this a bug of some sort? Has anyone else had this problem? I did a
check/repair file just to make sure, and the same problem occurs. I've also
noticed once before on my file ID report that for father rel. and mother
rel. citations, the wrong name shows up for a particular file ID. I think I
will quit sourcing father/mother relationships for now and not include them
in my family group record. However, I would like to be able to do so in the
future.

Jennifer Trahan








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