RE: [LegacyUG] Possible Bug with Events in Descendant Reports

2011-02-08 Thread s megraw

Thanks Brian!

Stan


 From: br...@legacyfamilytree.com
 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Possible Bug with Events in Descendant Reports
 Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2011 00:47:39 -0500

 Stan,

 I got the file and was able to duplicate the situation with it.

 I traced the single spacing to an option on the report screen. In the
 lower left there is a single space children option check box. With
 that turned on, not only are the lists of children single spaced but, if
 a child is not going to be in the next generation and all their data is
 included in their list entry, the events in their life are also single
 spaced.

 I will submit a problem report but the programmers may respond that this
 is exactly what should happen when children are single spaced.

 Brian
 Customer Support
 Millennia Corporation
 br...@legacyfamilytree.com
 http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com




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[LegacyUG] Unknown spouse

2011-02-08 Thread Jennifer Crockett
I can't remember how to remove an unknown spouse and just leave it blank. I
have a woman who had three children to three different men and two of the
men's names are known but not the third. How do I link a child to the mother
without having an unknown father with a RIN?

Regards,

Jennifer
http://colston-wenck.com






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Re: [LegacyUG] Unknown spouse

2011-02-08 Thread Scott Hall
There are a few ways.

One, if you have a mother with no father attached, and simply create a
child, no RIN will be assigned to the unknown father.  An MRIN will
be, which is unavoidable.

Two, if you create a unlinked child and then link it to a mother only,
the child will attach to the mother only.  Again, if the mother has no
existing husband, none wil be created and thus no RIN, but as above,
an MRIN will be (mother + unknown).

Scott

On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 8:34 AM, Jennifer Crockett
jcrock...@optusnet.com.au wrote:

 I can't remember how to remove an unknown spouse and just leave it blank. I
 have a woman who had three children to three different men and two of the
 men's names are known but not the third. How do I link a child to the mother
 without having an unknown father with a RIN?

 Regards,

 Jennifer
 http://colston-wenck.com






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Re: [LegacyUG] Unknown spouse

2011-02-08 Thread Scott Hall
After I hit send, I thought of something else you might want to know.

Because the children were from different fathers, you may wish to show
them as half siblings.  To do this you'll have to temporarily create
fathers, then delete them.

Create father #1 (call him anything) and create child #1.

Create father #2 (same deal) and create child #2.

Delete each of the fathers.

You'll note that the mother will still list two spouses (both
unknown) and have two MRINs, but no RINs will be assigned to the
non-existant fathers.  Depending on which MRIN you show, the other
children will appear as ½ siblings.

Scott

On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 8:34 AM, Jennifer Crockett
jcrock...@optusnet.com.au wrote:
 I can't remember how to remove an unknown spouse and just leave it blank. I
 have a woman who had three children to three different men and two of the
 men's names are known but not the third. How do I link a child to the mother
 without having an unknown father with a RIN?

 Regards,

 Jennifer
 http://colston-wenck.com






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RE: [LegacyUG] Unknown spouse

2011-02-08 Thread Jennifer Crockett
Thanks, Scott

I unlinked the child from the mother and the unknown father. Then, and this was 
what I had forgotten, brought up the child and right clicked Add- mother - link 
to existing person.

Re your second message, I have the half siblings shown.

Regards,

Jennifer
http://colston-wenck.com


-Original Message-
From: Scott Hall [mailto:seh0...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, 9 February 2011 12:51 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Unknown spouse

There are a few ways.

One, if you have a mother with no father attached, and simply create a
child, no RIN will be assigned to the unknown father. An MRIN will
be, which is unavoidable.

Two, if you create a unlinked child and then link it to a mother only,
the child will attach to the mother only. Again, if the mother has no
existing husband, none wil be created and thus no RIN, but as above,
an MRIN will be (mother + unknown).

Scott

On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 8:34 AM, Jennifer Crockett
jcrock...@optusnet.com.au wrote:

 I can't remember how to remove an unknown spouse and just leave it blank. I
 have a woman who had three children to three different men and two of the
 men's names are known but not the third. How do I link a child to the mother
 without having an unknown father with a RIN?

 Regards,

 Jennifer
 http://colston-wenck.com





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RE: [LegacyUG] How to manage Research / TODOs / Sources ?

2011-02-08 Thread Keith Smith
Sent from my Windows Phone From: Wes
Sent: Friday, February 04, 2011 1:46 PM
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Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] How to manage Research / TODOs / Sources ?
On 2/4/2011 2:20 PM, William Boswell wrote:
 I use it a lot especially when I find mistakes, order documents for sources, 
 and do additional research for certain individuals.

 One thing I wish they would fix is for all closed items to not show up each 
 time I open it.  I have to keep running the filter each time to hide closed 
 To Do's.  I have hundreds of To Do's and I hate going through ones that are 
 done.

 ---
 Bill Boswell

 -Original Message-
 From: Connie Sheets [mailto:clshee...@yahoo.com]
 Sent: Friday, February 04, 2011 1:03 PM
 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] How to manage Research / TODOs / Sources ?

 I am coming to this discussion late, but since I don't see answers to James' 
 specific questions, let me try to address some of them.

 I think the Legacy To Do feature is one of the most powerful, and probably 
 underutilized, features of Legacy.� While I'm still experimenting to 
 determine exactly when and how I will use it, I have 3 examples of printouts 
 directly from Legacy I'm happy to share.� If interested please contact me 
 off-list.� (These example reports were printed to PDF before the bug that 
 didn't print sources at the end of the report was fixed).

 (1) Research Plan (one can change the report heading to this or any other 
 title):� For FHL work (or any other repository where there is an online 
 catalog), I copy and paste the catalog entry into the To Do Description field 
 as part of my planning at home before I go to the repository.� I like to 
 format the report with lined Notes in case I want to print a hard copy and 
 take notes by hand, but there are multiple ways to set up the report.

 (2) A few pages from a Research Log with Notes for multiple people in one 
 locality:� On this trip, I experimented with abstracting/transcribing 
 positive results directly into Events for the relevant individual, and just 
 made a brief note of what I found (or didn't find) in the Results field on 
 the To Do item.� I also experimented with extracting info regarding people 
 of the same surname (or related surnames) about whom I know nothing (or who 
 weren't the target of this particular search) directly into the Results field 
 of the To Do item.� I like the ability to use either the Results or the 
 Description fields to make notes about the nature of the source, whether I 
 carefully studied the source or due to time constraints just did a cursory 
 check of an index, etc.

 I think both the Description and Results fields allow for lots of 
 information; I've never reached the character limit and I've entered lots of 
 info.� The major problem is that they've not added the Bold, Italics, etc. 
 buttons to these fields; if you want to italicize or bold something, you have 
 to use embedded codes.

 Note:� Although I didn't do so in this example, I could just as easily have 
 fully transcribed the positive findings into the To Do Results field, then 
 copied and pasted into Events for the relevant individual(s) when I got home. 
  Or, I could attach

 (3) Research Log with Notes:� This example illustrates a continuously 
 printed log (rather than one item per page) for one category of record 
 (Preliminary Histories) for a surname (not attached to a specific individual).

 When I find a positive result, I create the source citation, then copy and 
 paste it from the citation preview screen to the Description field.� I got 
 in the habit of doing this before the source citation bug was fixed, and will 
 keep doing it because I want to see the source on the same page as my notes 
 as to what I found.

 To me, the best part of the To Do feature is the flexibility for how I pull 
 out the data.� With all the tagging and filter choices that are available, 
 I could pull out a report for all Marriage Records for all Hancocks in all 
 localities, or just Court Records for one person in all localities, or 
 everything I've ever done in Centre Co. PA for everyone, etc.� (BTW, if you 
 don't
   like the default category labels, you can add your own).

 None of this will likely make much sense without seeing the examples, but 
 yes, James, there is a way (actually multiple ways) in Legacy to do what it 
 is I think you are asking.  I find, however, that I usually have to make a 
 physical print-out of the To Do items (both before and after I go to the 
 repository) to clearly visualize/understand what I found (or didn't find), as 
 opposed to just seeing them onscreen.

 Connie
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[LegacyUG] How to find people attached to more than one parent?

2011-02-08 Thread Yvonne Morehouse
Rats a fratz!  I attached a person to two different sets of parents.
Was working way too late last night and did dumb things.  How do I find
multiple attachments for an individual?

Thanks, Yvonne



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[LegacyUG] Adding an Event

2011-02-08 Thread Reba Solomon
When I add an event, will it appear correctly when opening a Gedcom file?



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Re: [LegacyUG] Adding an Event

2011-02-08 Thread Ron Ferguson
Reba,

It should do. I suggest that you enter the event, create the GEDCOM and have a 
look – you can open it in Notepad (or similar) or import into a *new* Legacy 
file.

Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergys.co.uk


From: Reba Solomon
Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2011 5:58 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Adding an Event

When I add an event, will it appear correctly when opening a Gedcom file?





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[LegacyUG] Unzip Problem

2011-02-08 Thread Dottie Davis
A couple of years ago when I tried to download more than one email picture at a
time Legacy came up when it was not involved at all. Finally I decided that
somehow something had changed and unzipping the file was involved. That system
was an EMachine with Windows XP and using OE. Now, on a new computer, Lenovo
and Windows 7, OE, I

have no trouble downloadinging several email pictures at a time.

However,  after backing up my PAF genealogy on the OLD computer to a memory
stick and restoring

them on the NEW computer the files have a Legacy logo even though they are PAF
files.The heading is: The Legacy logo , Aulerich Family Tree,  2/33/2011
9:25PM,

PAF File 140KB.  I unzip with TinyZip.

 Any ideas as to why that happens and how I can correct it?  Dottie






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Re: [LegacyUG] How to find people attached to more than one parent?

2011-02-08 Thread Bruce Jones
Make sure the person with two parents are in the primary position (husband
or wife) in the Family View
Abut the 8th icon from the left, next to the house icon, are two heads for
the parents.
Left click on this icon.
You will see a list of all parents.
Highlight the wrong parents and click on unlink.
That should do it.


On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 9:12 AM, Yvonne Morehouse y.moreho...@comcast.netwrote:

  Rats a fratz!  I attached a person to two different sets of parents. Â
 Was working way too late last night and did dumb things.  How do I find
 multiple attachments for an individual?

 Thanks, Yvonne


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Re: [LegacyUG] pronunciation ??

2011-02-08 Thread John Harris
Sherry,

I apologize for hijacking an ongoing thread with my query as to moving a 
picture from a e-mail message to my Legacy.  Fortunately I have not done this 
before, and I will strive to correctly handle this situation in the future.

John



From: Sherry/Support she...@legacyfamilytree.com
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Cc:
Sent: Monday, February 7, 2011 11:17 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] pronunciation ??

Please don't hijack an ongoing thread. If you have a new question,
start a new thread.

The LUG list is the appropriate list to ask how-to questions.  Since
you have hijacked an ongoing thread (and maybe you did this
previously) people who aren't interested in or aren't knowledgeable
about the subject as shown in the subject line will most likely skip
over it or delete it and won't respond but would have responded if you
had started a new message with an appropriate subject line.

Start a new message to LegacyuserGroup@legacyusers.com with a subject
line reflecting your question.


Sincerely,
Sherry
Technical Support
Legacy Family Tree



On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 6:44 AM, John Harris jkharri...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Sherry,

 I wrote Legacy several days ago regarding information as how to add a
 picture received via an e-mail to Legacy.  I have recently downloaded the
 7.5 version.  I have not received an answer to my picture question.  Is that
 something you can help me with or should I contact some other department at
 Legacy?

 Thank you,

 John Harris



 From: Sherry/Support she...@legacyfamilytree.com
 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Cc:
 Sent: Saturday, February 5, 2011 2:37 PM
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] pronunciation ??

 You would probably need to use diacritics like you find in a dictionary.

 http://www.merriam-webster.com/help/pronguide.htm

 http://www.slideshare.net/alexandraalvarez/pronunciation-symbols-in-dictionaries


 Sincerely,
 Sherry
 Technical Support
 Legacy Family Tree



 On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 8:29 PM, Gene Hutson fish...@q.com wrote:
 Fellow Listers,

   Has anyone dealt with differences in spelling and pronunciation,
and if so, how would you make that ‘look’ right say in a report
or a book??

   For example; Samuel Weber, then right after the surname have
it say, ’pronounced Weaver” or “pr. Weaver” or some such.

   Does Legacy have the where-with-all to do something like that??

   I’ve looked over the site, but didn’t see what I was looking for.

  Many Thanx!!!

 Gene Hutson
  Norfolk, Nebraska

 fish...@q.com



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Re: [LegacyUG] OT help with order - Sherry

2011-02-08 Thread Sherry/Support
Sales is the only department which can help you with orders.

Both Support and Sales have been really swamped and unfortunately,
we're not getting back to our customers quite as quickly as we'd like
to so please be patient.


Sincerely,
Sherry
Technical Support
Legacy Family Tree



On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 10:54 AM, aparsons aparsons...@gmail.com wrote:
 Sherry,

 I tried to order a copy of the deluxe edition as a gift for someone.
 The first time I was unable to do it.  I called to phone # if you want
 to order by phone. I reached a recording that said if I reached a
 recording it meant the person was on another call  to leave word. I
 waited several hours, then I asked person more skilled at computers to
 help me. To make a short story long - How can I check if I did one
 order or two?

 Thank you,
 Ann Parsons



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Re: [LegacyUG] pronunciation ??

2011-02-08 Thread John Harris
Mike,
Thank you for your response.  I apologize for incorrectly handling this 
situation by interrupting a ongoing discussionof another subject.  I will do 
better in the future.

John



From: Mike Fry mike...@iafrica.com
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
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Sent: Monday, February 7, 2011 3:53 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] pronunciation ??

On 2011/02/07 18:20, David C Abernathy wrote:

 Mike,

NOT ME!

 Save the image to your hard drive, in any folder so you can find it. Once 
 saved, with Legacy open, and you are at the point of inserting a image, just 
 browse to the location (folder) that you saved the image in.

 Hint, it always helps to name a file with the person's name in it, so you can 
 tell which image (s) you have.

--
Regards,
Mike Fry
Johannesburg



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Re: [LegacyUG] Adding an Event

2011-02-08 Thread James Cook
I think it depends on what you plan to do with the GEDCOM file.  I do
not think you will lose any data, but if you are going to import that
into something else, the data may not show up the same way.  I've
found that the notes portion of the event when entered into Legacy
help build sort of a narrative in combination with the description,
data, and location fields at the top.  When uploaded to Ancestry.com
(for example) the description, date and location stick with the event,
but the text in the notes are added as an unsourced citation.  Not
what I want or expected to happen.  I'm not clear if that is a problem
with the Legacy export (I'm thinking it is, because I can edit the
gedcom moving NOTE tags to CONC tags instead and I get the results I'd
expect), or Ancestry import.  I'm also not sure if the same would hold
true for importing into some other application.  If interested, my
gedcom macros are on my blog.


On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 11:58 AM, Reba Solomon theshvi...@gmail.com wrote:
 When I add an event, will it appear correctly when opening a Gedcom file?

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[LegacyUG] Customized Internet Searches

2011-02-08 Thread BG Johnson
I am using 7.5.0.55 and Windows 7-64.

I have several customized internet searches that I use frequently.  Since
7.5.0.55 was installed, most of my searches do not work.  Here is what is
happening.

If I use [GivenNames] in the url and  [ ]=[%20] is in the last line of the
customize window the given names of the individual should be John+Johnson.
Instead the + is missing and a space is inserted into the search url.  Has
anyone else experienced this?

bgj





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Re: [LegacyUG] OT help with order - Sherry

2011-02-08 Thread aparsons
Thanks Sherry - I just got off the phone with Sales. They noticed the
duplicate order  called me!!

On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 11:59 AM, Sherry/Support
she...@legacyfamilytree.com wrote:
 Sales is the only department which can help you with orders.

 Both Support and Sales have been really swamped and unfortunately,
 we're not getting back to our customers quite as quickly as we'd like
 to so please be patient.


 Sincerely,
 Sherry
 Technical Support
 Legacy Family Tree



 On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 10:54 AM, aparsons aparsons...@gmail.com wrote:
 Sherry,

 I tried to order a copy of the deluxe edition as a gift for someone.
 The first time I was unable to do it.  I called to phone # if you want
 to order by phone. I reached a recording that said if I reached a
 recording it meant the person was on another call  to leave word. I
 waited several hours, then I asked person more skilled at computers to
 help me. To make a short story long - How can I check if I did one
 order or two?

 Thank you,
 Ann Parsons



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[LegacyUG] Repeating info and direct line

2011-02-08 Thread Noddie
Yeh I finally got through.

Hi there
I was wondering if it is possible to use one of the F keys to repeat
info when typing into the Family page.
ie:  If I type St George, Sheffield, Wry, Eng

can I then say push F3 or similar to repeat this info on another
Family page for another family member.
I know you can start typing but often you might have several St
George address's and need to go through
them all to get the right one.

Also is it possible to get a printout for a Direct line of a family
only so I can sift out the ones I need info
for. I am finding it hard to do this and wonder if there is an easy
route for it.

Thanks heaps
Cheers

Gwen :)




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Re: [LegacyUG] Unzip Problem

2011-02-08 Thread Dottie Davis
OH MY GOSH IT WORKED!  THANKS SO MUCH for your help, Russ. You're my angel for
today. Dottie



- Original Message 
From: Genealogy mail rgstrong-ge...@hughes.net
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Tue, February 8, 2011 4:27:59 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Unzip Problem

Dottie,
To change what default program to use when opening a file with a PAF file
extension, you will have to change the association for the file. In Windows
7 go to Control Panel - Default Programs, then choose Associate a file type
or protocol with a program. After the window finishes loading find the file
extension for a PAF file that you want to change and highlight it and click
on the change program button then locate the program that you want to use
to open the file with.
Hope that helps,
Russ

-Original Message-
From: Dottie Davis
Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2011 12:49 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Cc: Dorothy Bergman Davis
Subject: [LegacyUG] Unzip Problem

A couple of years ago when I tried to download more than one email picture
at a
time Legacy came up when it was not involved at all. Finally I decided that
somehow something had changed and unzipping the file was involved. That
system
was an EMachine with Windows XP and using OE. Now, on a new computer, Lenovo
and Windows 7, OE, I

have no trouble downloadinging several email pictures at a time.

However,  after backing up my PAF genealogy on the OLD computer to a memory
stick and restoring

them on the NEW computer the files have a Legacy logo even though they are
PAF
files.The heading is: The Legacy logo , Aulerich Family Tree,
2/33/2011
9:25PM,

PAF File 140KB.  I unzip with TinyZip.

Any ideas as to why that happens and how I can correct it?  Dottie






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Re: [LegacyUG] Repeating info and direct line

2011-02-08 Thread Ron Ferguson


Gwen,

There are a number of ways of replicating something which has been
previously typed. For example on the Individuals Screen right clicking the
name of any field will give you the last 10 entries eg. right click on the
in next to a location field will give you the last 10 entries for that
field.
When I first got the program, years ago, I right clicked on everything just
to see what happens!

It sounds, also, that you may not be familiar with the Source Clipboard, and
i would suggest that you read this up in the Help Files and try it out.

Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergys.co.uk/

-Original Message-
From: Noddie
Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2011 10:14 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Repeating info and direct line

Yeh I finally got through.

Hi there
I was wondering if it is possible to use one of the F keys to repeat
info when typing into the Family page.
ie:  If I type St George, Sheffield, Wry, Eng

can I then say push F3 or similar to repeat this info on another
Family page for another family member.
I know you can start typing but often you might have several St
George address's and need to go through
them all to get the right one.

Also is it possible to get a printout for a Direct line of a family
only so I can sift out the ones I need info
for. I am finding it hard to do this and wonder if there is an easy
route for it.

Thanks heaps
Cheers

Gwen :)




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Re: [LegacyUG] Repeating info and direct line

2011-02-08 Thread WSteven aol
Gwen

When in the individual's information screen you can use the repeat button
on the lower left of that screen to repeat the info of a particular field.
Does that work for you?

Steve Sharp
On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 5:14 PM, Noddie 7thw...@ihug.co.nz wrote:

 Yeh I finally got through.

 Hi there
 I was wondering if it is possible to use one of the F keys to repeat
 info when typing into the Family page.
 ie:  If I type St George, Sheffield, Wry, Eng

 can I then say push F3 or similar to repeat this info on another
 Family page for another family member.
 I know you can start typing but often you might have several St
 George address's and need to go through
 them all to get the right one.

 Also is it possible to get a printout for a Direct line of a family
 only so I can sift out the ones I need info
 for. I am finding it hard to do this and wonder if there is an easy
 route for it.

 Thanks heaps
 Cheers

 Gwen :)




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[LegacyUG] Printing INDEX View

2011-02-08 Thread Dudley Chase
Is there anyway to print the INDEX View?   I would like to use this as
my To-Do list showing just birth and death. dates and locations which
are my priority to complete
D Chase



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Re: [LegacyUG] Printing INDEX View

2011-02-08 Thread Sherry/Support
It won't look like the Index View, but you can print it by going to
the Name List and clicking on Print.

You can also create a Search List of those individuals who do not have
a birth or death date and then print just that search list if you
wish.

Up to 30 fields can be included if you're printing from the Deluxe Edition.


Sincerely,
Sherry
Technical Support
Legacy Family Tree



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 Is there anyway to print the INDEX View?   I would like to use this as
 my To-Do list showing just birth and death. dates and locations which
 are my priority to complete
 D Chase



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Re: [LegacyUG] Repeating info and direct line

2011-02-08 Thread Noddie
Sorry not it has not worked for me.  I was hoping there was an F key
for this function to enable less mouse work.
Thanks for that
Gwen

On 9/02/2011, at 2:00 PM, WSteven aol wrote:

 Gwen

 When in the individual's information screen you can use the
 repeat button on the lower left of that screen to repeat the info
 of a particular field. Does that work for you?

 Steve Sharp
 On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 5:14 PM, Noddie 7thw...@ihug.co.nz wrote:
 Yeh I finally got through.

 Hi there
 I was wondering if it is possible to use one of the F keys to repeat
 info when typing into the Family page.
 ie:  If I type St George, Sheffield, Wry, Eng

 can I then say push F3 or similar to repeat this info on another
 Family page for another family member.
 I know you can start typing but often you might have several St
 George address's and need to go through
 them all to get the right one.

 Also is it possible to get a printout for a Direct line of a family
 only so I can sift out the ones I need info
 for. I am finding it hard to do this and wonder if there is an easy
 route for it.

 Thanks heaps
 Cheers

 Gwen :)




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[LegacyUG] Printing problem

2011-02-08 Thread Anne Picketts
I have a Canon Pro 9000 printer - great for doing A3 charts etc.

I have  attempted to print a blank A3 Pedigree chart, but cannot make the
actual form stretch across the page.   I have no problem with the printer
set-up; the A3 size is clearly visible.  The problem is with the actual form
- the Pedigree chart still shows as being on an A4, even though the paper
and the printer is set to A3,  thus leaving a very large amount of blank
paper.

Can anyone help please?

Thanks i.a.

--
Anne PICKETTS
Waipu, NZ
NZSG #5331;  KFHS #6151
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[LegacyUG] Missing RINs

2011-02-08 Thread Laird
I have questions about a topic in the archives, so I included previous messages
below:
http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/msg04740.html
===
I like to keep certain families within a range of RIN's.  So when I import a new
family I set the new member RINs to begin after the highest RIN.  To add family
members to a previous family, I select the correct RINs in the range of that
family.  Before I import into my main database, I import a GEDCOM and tell
Legacy to renumber RINs and MRINs starting at ___.  I select a number where
I want the family to be in my main database.  Next I import that Legacy file
into my main database and the RINs will mesh within the range I wanted.  I have
been doing this for the past year of so without any problems.  The past few days
I had been using tblXI to find the holes in the RIN list to place people, this
was a very nice shortcut without manually looking for gaps in the RIN range.
Something went wrong and the tblXI results no longer gave realistic numbers.
  I have tested 18 previous database versions with varying results using Ltools
and Legacy.  One of my files (97 individuals) has huge numbers of unused/skipped
RINs.  This number is calculated as follows:  (highest RIN - number of
individuals) (14,339 - 97) = 14,242 unused in the database, which tblXI reports
as only 500.  I think this file may be the one I exported a persons descendants
from Legacy with about 50 people and added another 47 or so and used
IntelliShare to import it back into my main database.

There are about 500 unused RINs in the range of 9,000 to 10,000 in my main
database.  And 500 is the typical number [incorrectly?] reported in tblXI for
most of the files.  I do have one database in which the unused counts are much
closer i.e. RIN count = 26,944 - 19,133 individuals, calculated = 7,811 vs tblXI
= 7,303.  I have used a WinXP laptop with Legacy version 7.4.0.45 and a desktop
WinVista-64 with Legacy version 7.5.0.47 to enable and disableReuse abandoned
RINs.  I check tblXI before turning on Reuse abandoned RINs and then again
after turning it off.  I also did a File Maintenance Check/Repair on some of
the files and didn't see any difference, but I don't remember which files I this
did this.

I didn't do a test on tblXM like tblXI, but the MRINs appear to be in the range
I would expect.

Has anyone had any experience similar to mine?  Is there a difference between
deleted vs missing/unused RINs?  Maybe tblXI is for RINs that been used and then
deleted?  Maybe this is just an inconvenience for me and there isn't anything
wrong with my database.  And I should just bite the bullet and go back to
determining the missing RINs manually.

Thanks for any comments you may have about this.
Laird


   Re: [LegacyUG] Missing RINs

 Dennis M . Kowallek
 Wed, 19 May 2010 07:16:55 -0700

 On Wed, 19 May 2010 00:27:00 -0500, Robert Carneal USA
 carnea...@roadrunner.com  wrote:

 Does anyone know of a way to get Legacy to generate a report listing
 the RINs that are empty?

 Then the report tells me 7 is not used?

 Robert (and others):

 If you have Reuse abandoned RINs turned on, then tblXI contains a list
 of the missing RINs. You can run the following query in Access, LTools,
 OOBase, etc.:

 SELECT tblXI.DeletedID FROM tblXI ORDER BY tblXI.DeletedID

 If you do not have Reuse abandoned RINs turned on, you can turn it on
 temporarily. This will cause tblXI to be rebuilt. Then you can run the
 above SELECT query. When you are done you can turn off Reuse abandoned
 RINs.

 --

 Dennis Kowallek (LTools)
 http://zippersoftware.com/ltools
 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ltools




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