Re: [LegacyUG] Separating family branches

[Wendy Howard]

Hi Cathy,

> I want to separate out some of my family branches.  Right now my name
> is the beginning of my genealogy file.  I want to have my Father's
> side separate from my Mother's side.  What is the best way to do
> this?  Should I create a Gedcom file, rename the file and delete the
> family branch that I don't want in the file.  Or can I just copy my
> father's line somehow from the existing file and then rename the file?

If your reasons for wanting to split your file are for
reporting/charting reasons, I'd suggest that you don't split your main
file.  Keep everyone together in the one file so you can take advantage
of things like a consistent set of locations, master sources, etc.  And
when you find that your mother is related to your father via a route
that isn't their marriage to each other, you won't be wanting to combine
them into one 'cos it's already there.  There's a good discussion at
http://legacynews.typepad.com/legacy_news/2006/03/your_legacy_dat.html

When you want to report/chart only a section of your family tree, and
you can't do it with a focus group or tagging or whatever (there are
lots of options!), make a copy of your tree, unlink the people you don't
want to include from the people you do want to include, and delete the
"unwanted" ones (I posted on how to do this within the past week).  Then
you're left with a file containing just the people you want to work
with, and your original data file remains intact.

We've been talking about this just in the past week, so you may like to
take a look at the archives if you missed the discussions.  See the link
at the end of this and every post.

Hope this helps.  :-)

Kind Regards,
Wendy


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Re: Re[2]: [LegacyUG] Separating Family branches

[Ron Ferguson]

I should have added that Legacy Charts only allow ancestors and descendants 
plus spouses, so you would not be able to include the parents of spouses to 
direct line descendants. I have an old FTM program which allows all individuals 
in the file to be included in a chart, and when I wish to do something along 
the lines you suggest then I tag as I described create a GEDCOM and export to 
that program.

Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergys.co.uk/


From: Ron Ferguson
Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2011 1:12 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: Re[2]: [LegacyUG] Separating Family branches

Ah! Advanced Tagging – right click on the tag boxes in Family View will enable 
you to tag all your father’s ancestors, but siblings you will have to tag 
separately and all branches/twigs. Or you could go to the oldest 
gg-grandparents (all if them if required) and tag their descendants and any  
2nd, 3rd, 4th etc uncles/aunts and their descendants.

So without a lot of messing the answer is not within Legacy.

Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergys.co.uk

From: R&C Sentz
Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2011 12:54 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re[2]: [LegacyUG] Separating Family branches

I am trying to figure out how to best separate the two sides of the family so 
that I can create Gedcoms to share with the two sides of the family.  Cousins 
on my father's side and on my mother's side.

It seems that it might be easier to do charts, etc. with them separated.

Is there a way to tag a the records without going into each person?  For 
instance is there a "global" tag for everyone in the my father's tree, 
siblings, aunts, uncles, etc.

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-- Original Message --
From: "Ron Ferguson" 
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com
Sent: 8/27/2011 7:49:02 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Separating Family branches

If I understand you correctly, unlink you mother from your father, use Advance 
tagging to tag all your father’s ancestors, then export the tagged individuals 
to a new Legacy file.

Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergy.co.uk/

From: R&C Sentz
Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2011 12:42 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Separating Family branches

It appears that my e-mail did not go through, so I am resending this message.  
I apologize if you received the first.

I want to separate out some of my family tree branches.  Right now my name is 
the beginning of my genealogy file.  I want to have my Father's side separate 
from my Mother's side.  What is the best way to do this?  Should I create a 
Gedcom file, rename the file and delete the family branch that I don't want in 
the file.  Or can I just copy my father's line somehow from the existing file 
and then rename the file?

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Re: Re[2]: [LegacyUG] Separating Family branches

[Ron Ferguson]

Ah! Advanced Tagging – right click on the tag boxes in Family View will enable 
you to tag all your father’s ancestors, but siblings you will have to tag 
separately and all branches/twigs. Or you could go to the oldest 
gg-grandparents (all if them if required) and tag their descendants and any  
2nd, 3rd, 4th etc uncles/aunts and their descendants.

So without a lot of messing the answer is not within Legacy.

Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergys.co.uk

From: R&C Sentz
Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2011 12:54 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re[2]: [LegacyUG] Separating Family branches

I am trying to figure out how to best separate the two sides of the family so 
that I can create Gedcoms to share with the two sides of the family.  Cousins 
on my father's side and on my mother's side.

It seems that it might be easier to do charts, etc. with them separated.

Is there a way to tag a the records without going into each person?  For 
instance is there a "global" tag for everyone in the my father's tree, 
siblings, aunts, uncles, etc.

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-- Original Message --
From: "Ron Ferguson" 
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com
Sent: 8/27/2011 7:49:02 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Separating Family branches

If I understand you correctly, unlink you mother from your father, use Advance 
tagging to tag all your father’s ancestors, then export the tagged individuals 
to a new Legacy file.

Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergy.co.uk/

From: R&C Sentz
Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2011 12:42 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Separating Family branches

It appears that my e-mail did not go through, so I am resending this message.  
I apologize if you received the first.

I want to separate out some of my family tree branches.  Right now my name is 
the beginning of my genealogy file.  I want to have my Father's side separate 
from my Mother's side.  What is the best way to do this?  Should I create a 
Gedcom file, rename the file and delete the family branch that I don't want in 
the file.  Or can I just copy my father's line somehow from the existing file 
and then rename the file?

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Re[2]: [LegacyUG] Separating Family branches

[R&C Sentz]

  I am trying to figure out how to best separate the two sides of the
family so that I can create Gedcoms to share with the two sides of the
family.  Cousins on my father's side and on my mother's side.

It seems that it might be easier to do charts, etc. with them
separated.

Is there a way to tag a the records without going into each person?
For instance is there a "global" tag for everyone in the my father's
tree, siblings, aunts, uncles, etc.

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-- Original Message --
From: "Ron Ferguson" 
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com
Sent: 8/27/2011 7:49:02 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Separating Family branches
>If I understand you correctly, unlink you mother from your father, use
>Advance tagging to tag all your father’s ancestors, then export the
>tagged individuals to a new Legacy file.
>
>Ron Ferguson
>http://www.fergy.co.uk/
>
>From:R&C Sentz
>Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2011 12:42 AM
>To:LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
>Subject: [LegacyUG] Separating Family branches
>
>It appears that my e-mail did not go through, so I am resending this
>message.  I apologize if you received the first.
>
>I want to separate out some of my family tree branches.  Right now my
>name is the beginning of my genealogy file.  I want to have my
>Father's side separate from my Mother's side.  What is the best way to
>do this?  Should I create a Gedcom file, rename the file and delete
>the family branch that I don't want in the file.  Or can I just copy
>my father's line somehow from the existing file and then rename the
>file?
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Separating Family branches

[Ron Ferguson]

If I understand you correctly, unlink you mother from your father, use Advance 
tagging to tag all your father’s ancestors, then export the tagged individuals 
to a new Legacy file.

Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergy.co.uk/

From: R&C Sentz
Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2011 12:42 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Separating Family branches

It appears that my e-mail did not go through, so I am resending this message.  
I apologize if you received the first.


I want to separate out some of my family tree branches.  Right now my name is 
the beginning of my genealogy file.  I want to have my Father's side separate 
from my Mother's side.  What is the best way to do this?  Should I create a 
Gedcom file, rename the file and delete the family branch that I don't want in 
the file.  Or can I just copy my father's line somehow from the existing file 
and then rename the file?

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Re: [LegacyUG] Down Ampney not recognized as a location

[Wm Voss]

I don't see why it would be excluded for English/US (we've been known to
use them, too -- sometimes correctly) and included with other languages,
but I've pretty much given up looking for logic in Legacy.

Wm Voss

On 27-Aug-11 4:08 PM, Ron Ferguson wrote:
> Now that does seem strange, or could it be that it is only included with the
> installation of certain language versions, mine being English-English - as
> might be expected.
>
> Ron Ferguson
> http:://www.fergys.co.uk/
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Wm Voss
> Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2011 11:34 PM
> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Down Ampney not recognized as a location
>
> I did the same -- file not found, so some of us got it and some of us
> didn't.
>
> Thinking it might be a create on first use, I made some changes to
> various locations, replacing the default preposition with gibberish,
> which work fine, but no lst file was created.
>
> Wm Voss
>
> On 27-Aug-11 3:16 PM, Ron Ferguson wrote:
>> Re: Preposition_English.lst
>>
>> I have just done a Windows Explorer search of my PC and found the file in
>> the Legacy folder. The point is that Legacy V7.5 was first installed on
>> this
>> machine just under 12 mths. ago when it was a new clean disk, in fact it
>> was
>> the first program I installed, so it is included in V7 installations,
>> unless
>> it has been dropped this year.
>>
>> Ron Ferguson
>> http://www.fergys.co.uk/
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Down Ampney not recognized as a location

[Ron Ferguson]

Now that does seem strange, or could it be that it is only included with the
installation of certain language versions, mine being English-English - as
might be expected.

Ron Ferguson
http:://www.fergys.co.uk/

-Original Message-
From: Wm Voss
Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2011 11:34 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Down Ampney not recognized as a location

I did the same -- file not found, so some of us got it and some of us
didn't.

Thinking it might be a create on first use, I made some changes to
various locations, replacing the default preposition with gibberish,
which work fine, but no lst file was created.

Wm Voss

On 27-Aug-11 3:16 PM, Ron Ferguson wrote:
> Re: Preposition_English.lst
>
> I have just done a Windows Explorer search of my PC and found the file in
> the Legacy folder. The point is that Legacy V7.5 was first installed on
> this
> machine just under 12 mths. ago when it was a new clean disk, in fact it
> was
> the first program I installed, so it is included in V7 installations,
> unless
> it has been dropped this year.
>
> Ron Ferguson
> http://www.fergys.co.uk/



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Re: [LegacyUG] Down Ampney not recognized as a location

[Wm Voss]

I did the same -- file not found, so some of us got it and some of us
didn't.

Thinking it might be a create on first use, I made some changes to
various locations, replacing the default preposition with gibberish,
which work fine, but no lst file was created.

Wm Voss

On 27-Aug-11 3:16 PM, Ron Ferguson wrote:
> Re: Preposition_English.lst
>
> I have just done a Windows Explorer search of my PC and found the file in
> the Legacy folder. The point is that Legacy V7.5 was first installed on this
> machine just under 12 mths. ago when it was a new clean disk, in fact it was
> the first program I installed, so it is included in V7 installations, unless
> it has been dropped this year.
>
> Ron Ferguson
> http://www.fergys.co.uk/


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Re: [LegacyUG] Down Ampney not recognized as a location

[Ron Ferguson]

Re: Preposition_English.lst

I have just done a Windows Explorer search of my PC and found the file in
the Legacy folder. The point is that Legacy V7.5 was first installed on this
machine just under 12 mths. ago when it was a new clean disk, in fact it was
the first program I installed, so it is included in V7 installations, unless
it has been dropped this year.

Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergys.co.uk/

-Original Message-
From: CE Wood
Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2011 10:33 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Down Ampney not recognized as a location

Thank you so much, Dennis!  That works perfectly.

As for your earlier observation about Preposition_English.lst and Legacy
versions, I have only one Legacy folder.  When I update, I just let the
Legacy download do its thing.  Whether or not it installed 7.5 over 6, I
have no idea.


CE


-Original Message-
From: Dennis M. Kowallek [mailto:kowal...@iglou.com]
Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2011 1:08 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Down Ampney not recognized as a location

On Sat, 27 Aug 2011 12:07:36 -0700, CE Wood  wrote:

>I know I can put a non-breaking space in front of "Down Ampney," but then
>it
>doesn't sort in the Master Location list!

Why not put the non-breaking space in the middle of "Down Ampney"?

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RE: [LegacyUG] Down Ampney not recognized as a location

[CE Wood]

Thank you so much, Dennis!  That works perfectly.

As for your earlier observation about Preposition_English.lst and Legacy 
versions, I have only one Legacy folder.  When I update, I just let the Legacy 
download do its thing.  Whether or not it installed 7.5 over 6, I have no idea.


CE


-Original Message-
From: Dennis M. Kowallek [mailto:kowal...@iglou.com]
Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2011 1:08 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Down Ampney not recognized as a location

On Sat, 27 Aug 2011 12:07:36 -0700, CE Wood  wrote:

>I know I can put a non-breaking space in front of "Down Ampney," but then it
>doesn't sort in the Master Location list!

Why not put the non-breaking space in the middle of "Down Ampney"?

--

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Re: [LegacyUG] Down Ampney not recognized as a location

[Laird]

Dennis,
My V7.5 has the file Preposition_English.lst with a created date of 10/11/2010.
I first installed my Legacy in December of 2009.  Perhaps that created date
might be close to one of the Legacy updates.  It is the only file with that
creation date.
Laird


On 8/27/2011 2:36 PM, Dennis M. Kowallek wrote:
> On Sat, 27 Aug 2011 12:25:15 -0700, CE Wood  wrote:
>
>> Preposition_English.lst
> That's funny. My V7.5 folder doesn't have a Preposition_English.lst, but
> my V6 folder does. Did you install V7 on top of an older V6 install? I
> wonder if V7 no longer uses Preposition_English.lst.
>



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Re: [LegacyUG] Down Ampney not recognized as a location

[Dennis M . Kowallek]

On Sat, 27 Aug 2011 12:07:36 -0700, CE Wood  wrote:

>I know I can put a non-breaking space in front of "Down Ampney," but then it
>doesn't sort in the Master Location list!

Why not put the non-breaking space in the middle of "Down Ampney"?

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Re: [LegacyUG] Down Ampney not recognized as a location

[Joan]

Down Ampney gave it's name to Ralph Vaughn Williams lovely music for the hymn 
'Love Divine All Loves Excelling' sung at many a wedding

Joan

On 27 Aug 2011, at 20:36, Dennis M. Kowallek  wrote:

> On Sat, 27 Aug 2011 12:25:15 -0700, CE Wood  wrote:
>
>> Preposition_English.lst
>
> That's funny. My V7.5 folder doesn't have a Preposition_English.lst, but
> my V6 folder does. Did you install V7 on top of an older V6 install? I
> wonder if V7 no longer uses Preposition_English.lst.
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Re: [LegacyUG] Down Ampney not recognized as a location

[Dennis M . Kowallek]

On Sat, 27 Aug 2011 12:25:15 -0700, CE Wood  wrote:

>Preposition_English.lst

That's funny. My V7.5 folder doesn't have a Preposition_English.lst, but
my V6 folder does. Did you install V7 on top of an older V6 install? I
wonder if V7 no longer uses Preposition_English.lst.

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RE: [LegacyUG] Down Ampney not recognized as a location

[CE Wood]

Preposition_English.lst


CE


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Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Down Ampney not recognized as a location

On Sat, 27 Aug 2011 12:19:24 -0700, CE Wood  wrote:

>Yes.  Didn't help.

What was the name of the file you edited?

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Re: [LegacyUG] Missing Master Source List after Restore

[Randy Clark]

Are all the "show Only" boxes unchecked?

On Sat, Aug 27, 2011 at 3:19 PM, Clarice Brackett wrote:

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Re: [LegacyUG] Down Ampney not recognized as a location

[Dennis M . Kowallek]

On Sat, 27 Aug 2011 12:19:24 -0700, CE Wood  wrote:

>Yes.  Didn't help.

What was the name of the file you edited?

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RE: [LegacyUG] Down Ampney not recognized as a location

[CE Wood]

Yes.  Didn't help.


CE


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Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2011 12:17 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Down Ampney not recognized as a location

On Sat, 27 Aug 2011 12:07:36 -0700, CE Wood  wrote:

>Further to my comment below, I followed the Legacy Help instructions and
>removed "down" from the list of default Location Prepositions.  Didn't help.

Did you shut down Legacy, edit the file, then reopen Legacy?

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[LegacyUG] Missing Master Source List after Restore

[Clarice Brackett]

I just installed Legacy 7 on a new computer and restored my family files from a 
backup file. Everything seems okay except my Master Source List is missing. 
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Re: [LegacyUG] Down Ampney not recognized as a location

[Dennis M . Kowallek]

On Sat, 27 Aug 2011 12:07:36 -0700, CE Wood  wrote:

>Further to my comment below, I followed the Legacy Help instructions and
>removed "down" from the list of default Location Prepositions.  Didn't help.

Did you shut down Legacy, edit the file, then reopen Legacy?

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[LegacyUG] Down Ampney not recognized as a location

[CE Wood]

Further to my comment below, I followed the Legacy Help instructions and
removed "down" from the list of default Location Prepositions.  Didn't help.

Next step in Help said to check the box, "Remove the common prep" on the
Sort page of Master Locations.  Didn't help.

I know I can put a non-breaking space in front of "Down Ampney," but then it
doesn't sort in the Master Location list!

How do I do this when Legacy Help doesn't help?


CE


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Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2011 11:37 AM
To: 'LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com'
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Re: Adding Relationships to Ancestor Report;
Changing Standard Wording for "was born in"

As to question 2, I have the opposite problem!  "born about 1410 down
Ampney, Gloucestershire"

No "in" at all, and the name of the town is "Down Ampney."


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RE: [LegacyUG] Re: Adding Relationships to Ancestor Report; Changing Standard Wording for "was born in"

[CE Wood]

As to question 2, I have the opposite problem!  "born about 1410 down Ampney, 
Gloucestershire"

No "in" at all, and the name of the town is "Down Ampney."


CE


From: Lorraine [mailto:notenoughbi...@gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2011 8:46 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Re: Adding Relationships to Ancestor Report; Changing 
Standard Wording for "was born in"

Hi, all,

I have two quick questions that I have not been able to find the answer for in 
the FAQs, that I hope someone onlist may have already worked out.

1. Is it possible to add relationships to an Ancestor Report to be printed out? 
I am going to print a report for my mother, and would like to be able to let 
her see immediately how she is related to each person in the report, since many 
of them are cousins/aunts/uncles and not just direct line ancestors. 
Complicating it is that I'm not starting with her, but rather a few generations 
back. Anyone know if this is possible, without having to manually enter the 
information as an event for each individual?

2. For ease of my own viewing while working, I've entered "of ---" in the birth 
location field, since it is a location, even if not where the person may have 
been born, it seems a logical place to me. This works for me for viewing, but 
when printing the report, I end up with "He was born in of York, Yorkshire, 
England." Is there any way to simply remove the "he was born in" language 
before printing?  I've tried all the normal customizing spots, but to no avail.

Thanks for your help,

Lorraine
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Re: [LegacyUG] change Child Relationship = Biological to blank

[Ron Taylor]

Thanks for this verification.  I was pretty sure this was the case with the 
"status" tables.  Dennis provided a quick script that should accomplish the 
trick.
Ron Taylor

--- On Sat, 8/27/11, Brian/Support  wrote:

> From: Brian/Support 
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] change Child Relationship = Biological to blank
> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Date: Saturday, August 27, 2011, 9:52 AM
> The Master lists which can be
> considered categorical and which have
> default values like the parent child relationships, child
> status, source
> type, etc. do not allow you to combine a non-blank value
> with the blank
> entry at the top of the list.
>
> The tables which are built of user entered values like the
> locations,
> sources etc. do allow you to combine a value with the blank
> entry.
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> On 27/08/2011 11:03 AM, Dennis M. Kowallek wrote:
> > On Sat, 27 Aug 2011 07:20:55 -0700 (PDT), Ron Taylor
> >  
> wrote:
> >
> >> That is exactly what I thought could be done but
> it doesn't work with that table.  The message "This
> record cannot be Combined. It is used by Legacy as a blank
> record." is displayed.
> >
> > That is odd. AFAIK that is the only master list that
> works that way. I
> > think you should be allowed to combine other rows with
> that row. I can
> > see why it wouldn't let you do it the other way around
> though.
> >
> > I would report it as a bug. If it isn't then support
> will get back to
> > you and let you know why it isn't.
> >
> > I would wait for an answer before doing anything, but
> the two UPDATE
> > queries would look like...
> >
> > UPDATE tblCR INNER JOIN tblCP ON tblCR.IDCPDad =
> tblCP.IDCP SET
> > tblCR.IDCPDad = 1 WHERE tblCP.CPRelation="Biological"
> >
> > and
> >
> > UPDATE tblCR INNER JOIN tblCP ON tblCR.IDCPMom =
> tblCP.IDCP SET
> > tblCR.IDCPMom = 1 WHERE tblCP.CPRelation="Biological"
> >
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Re: [LegacyUG] Temple Master List duplicates

[Ron Taylor]

Thanks Brian,
I will look at the Temple names being pulled from nFS.  That may very well be 
the cause of the duplicates.
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Re: [LegacyUG] Temple Master List duplicates

[Tim Rosenlof]

That is probably the case. I however imported a temple list for testing.
I'm on the side of Brian.

Brian, they are using the "Logan Utah Temple" " Billings Montana Temple"


Tim

On 8/27/2011 10:02 AM, Brian/Support wrote:
> Ron,
>
> I just checked the temple list in my copy of Legacy and did not see your
> duplication. Perhaps your temple name duplicates came from a GEDCOM you
> imported.
>
> Do you use the LDS options?
> Have you imported temple ordinances from Family Search?
> How are temples named in the Family Search site? I am not LDS so I
> cannot access the LDS data at Family Search.
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> On 26/08/2011 10:26 PM, Ron Taylor wrote:
>> Today, I was checking the Temple Master List and noticed that many of the 
>> temples were duplicated in the table.  Examples follow:
>>
>> CHICA - Chicago Illinois
>> CHICA - Chicago Illinois Temple
>>
>> DRAPE - Draper Utah
>> DRAPE - Draper Utah Temple
>>
>> HKONG - Hong Kong China
>> HKONG - Hong Kong China Temple
>>
>> IFALL - Idaho Falls Idaho
>> IFALL - Idaho Falls Idaho Temple
>>
>> Notice that the duplicate pattern seems to be the word Temple added to the 
>> extra ones or left off.  I'm not certain which is better but I am concerned 
>> that there are so many duplicates.  Perhaps they've been in that table for 
>> some time but they should be fixed.
>>
>> Ron Taylor
>>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Re: Adding Relationships to Ancestor Report; Changing Standard Wording for "was born in"

[Ron Ferguson]

Lorraine,

I don’t think there is an answer to your second question, but this is off the 
top of my head and I am afraid that I am really too busy to look in detail at 
the moment.

To the first part: have you considered using the Publication Centre and adding 
a Relationship Report?

Ron Ferguson
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From: Lorraine
Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2011 4:46 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Re: Adding Relationships to Ancestor Report; Changing 
Standard Wording for "was born in"

Hi, all,

I have two quick questions that I have not been able to find the answer for in 
the FAQs, that I hope someone onlist may have already worked out.

1. Is it possible to add relationships to an Ancestor Report to be printed out? 
I am going to print a report for my mother, and would like to be able to let 
her see immediately how she is related to each person in the report, since many 
of them are cousins/aunts/uncles and not just direct line ancestors. 
Complicating it is that I'm not starting with her, but rather a few generations 
back. Anyone know if this is possible, without having to manually enter the 
information as an event for each individual?

2. For ease of my own viewing while working, I've entered "of ---" in the birth 
location field, since it is a location, even if not where the person may have 
been born, it seems a logical place to me. This works for me for viewing, but 
when printing the report, I end up with "He was born in of York, Yorkshire, 
England." Is there any way to simply remove the "he was born in" language 
before printing?  I've tried all the normal customizing spots, but to no avail.

Thanks for your help,

Lorraine
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Re: [LegacyUG] change Child Relationship = Biological to blank

[Dennis M . Kowallek]

On Sat, 27 Aug 2011 11:52:14 -0400, Brian/Support
 wrote:

>The Master lists which can be considered categorical and which have
>default values like the parent child relationships, child status, source
>type, etc. do not allow you to combine a non-blank value with the blank
>entry at the top of the list.

Is there a down side to combining a non-blank value with the blank entry
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Re: [LegacyUG] change Child Relationship = Biological to blank

[Brian/Support]

OK. I only checked the parent child and source type tables before
generalizing. Obviously you will have to check each table to make a
definitive list.

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On 27/08/2011 12:05 PM, Dennis M. Kowallek wrote:
> On Sat, 27 Aug 2011 12:02:14 -0400, Dennis M. Kowallek
>   wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 27 Aug 2011 11:52:14 -0400, Brian/Support
>>   wrote:
>>
>>> The Master lists which can be considered categorical and which have
>>> default values like the parent child relationships, child status, source
>>> type, etc. do not allow you to combine a non-blank value with the blank
>>> entry at the top of the list.
>>
>> Child Status did in V6.
>>
>> So this was changed for V7?
>
> I just checked ... Child Status still allows this in my copy of V7.5
> standard.
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Re: [LegacyUG] change Child Relationship = Biological to blank

[Dennis M . Kowallek]

On Sat, 27 Aug 2011 12:02:14 -0400, Dennis M. Kowallek
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>On Sat, 27 Aug 2011 11:52:14 -0400, Brian/Support
> wrote:
>
>>The Master lists which can be considered categorical and which have
>>default values like the parent child relationships, child status, source
>>type, etc. do not allow you to combine a non-blank value with the blank
>>entry at the top of the list.
>
>Child Status did in V6.
>
>So this was changed for V7?

I just checked ... Child Status still allows this in my copy of V7.5
standard.

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Re: [LegacyUG] Temple Master List duplicates

[Brian/Support]

Ron,

I just checked the temple list in my copy of Legacy and did not see your
duplication. Perhaps your temple name duplicates came from a GEDCOM you
imported.

Do you use the LDS options?
Have you imported temple ordinances from Family Search?
How are temples named in the Family Search site? I am not LDS so I
cannot access the LDS data at Family Search.

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On 26/08/2011 10:26 PM, Ron Taylor wrote:
> Today, I was checking the Temple Master List and noticed that many of the 
> temples were duplicated in the table.  Examples follow:
>
> CHICA - Chicago Illinois
> CHICA - Chicago Illinois Temple
>
> DRAPE - Draper Utah
> DRAPE - Draper Utah Temple
>
> HKONG - Hong Kong China
> HKONG - Hong Kong China Temple
>
> IFALL - Idaho Falls Idaho
> IFALL - Idaho Falls Idaho Temple
>
> Notice that the duplicate pattern seems to be the word Temple added to the 
> extra ones or left off.  I'm not certain which is better but I am concerned 
> that there are so many duplicates.  Perhaps they've been in that table for 
> some time but they should be fixed.
>
> Ron Taylor
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] change Child Relationship = Biological to blank

[Dennis M . Kowallek]

On Sat, 27 Aug 2011 11:52:14 -0400, Brian/Support
 wrote:

>The Master lists which can be considered categorical and which have
>default values like the parent child relationships, child status, source
>type, etc. do not allow you to combine a non-blank value with the blank
>entry at the top of the list.

Child Status did in V6.

So this was changed for V7?

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Re: [LegacyUG] change Child Relationship = Biological to blank

[Brian/Support]

The Master lists which can be considered categorical and which have
default values like the parent child relationships, child status, source
type, etc. do not allow you to combine a non-blank value with the blank
entry at the top of the list.

The tables which are built of user entered values like the locations,
sources etc. do allow you to combine a value with the blank entry.

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On 27/08/2011 11:03 AM, Dennis M. Kowallek wrote:
> On Sat, 27 Aug 2011 07:20:55 -0700 (PDT), Ron Taylor
>   wrote:
>
>> That is exactly what I thought could be done but it doesn't work with that 
>> table.  The message "This record cannot be Combined. It is used by Legacy as 
>> a blank record." is displayed.
>
> That is odd. AFAIK that is the only master list that works that way. I
> think you should be allowed to combine other rows with that row. I can
> see why it wouldn't let you do it the other way around though.
>
> I would report it as a bug. If it isn't then support will get back to
> you and let you know why it isn't.
>
> I would wait for an answer before doing anything, but the two UPDATE
> queries would look like...
>
> UPDATE tblCR INNER JOIN tblCP ON tblCR.IDCPDad = tblCP.IDCP SET
> tblCR.IDCPDad = 1 WHERE tblCP.CPRelation="Biological"
>
> and
>
> UPDATE tblCR INNER JOIN tblCP ON tblCR.IDCPMom = tblCP.IDCP SET
> tblCR.IDCPMom = 1 WHERE tblCP.CPRelation="Biological"
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[LegacyUG] Re: Adding Relationships to Ancestor Report; Changing Standard Wording for "was born in"

[Lorraine]

Hi, all,

I have two quick questions that I have not been able to find the answer for
in the FAQs, that I hope someone onlist may have already worked out.

1. Is it possible to add relationships to an Ancestor Report to be printed
out? I am going to print a report for my mother, and would like to be able
to let her see immediately how she is related to each person in the report,
since many of them are cousins/aunts/uncles and not just direct line
ancestors. Complicating it is that I'm not starting with her, but rather a
few generations back. Anyone know if this is possible, without having to
manually enter the information as an event for each individual?

2. For ease of my own viewing while working, I've entered "of ---" in the
birth location field, since it is a location, even if not where the person
may have been born, it seems a logical place to me. This works for me for
viewing, but when printing the report, I end up with "He was born in of
York, Yorkshire, England." Is there any way to simply remove the "he was
born in" language before printing?  I've tried all the normal customizing
spots, but to no avail.

Thanks for your help,

Lorraine
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Re: [LegacyUG] change Child Relationship = Biological to blank

[Dennis M . Kowallek]

On Sat, 27 Aug 2011 07:20:55 -0700 (PDT), Ron Taylor
 wrote:

>That is exactly what I thought could be done but it doesn't work with that 
>table.  The message "This record cannot be Combined. It is used by Legacy as a 
>blank record." is displayed.

That is odd. AFAIK that is the only master list that works that way. I
think you should be allowed to combine other rows with that row. I can
see why it wouldn't let you do it the other way around though.

I would report it as a bug. If it isn't then support will get back to
you and let you know why it isn't.

I would wait for an answer before doing anything, but the two UPDATE
queries would look like...

UPDATE tblCR INNER JOIN tblCP ON tblCR.IDCPDad = tblCP.IDCP SET
tblCR.IDCPDad = 1 WHERE tblCP.CPRelation="Biological"

and

UPDATE tblCR INNER JOIN tblCP ON tblCR.IDCPMom = tblCP.IDCP SET
tblCR.IDCPMom = 1 WHERE tblCP.CPRelation="Biological"

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Re: [LegacyUG] location Tamer

[gcr...@juno.com]

Be interesting to see what the "official reaction" is from the Legacy folks!
gc

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Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] location Tamer
Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2011 08:26:15 -0600

Hi Terry,

Your Access work looks great to me, also. I too was wondering how to get this 
type of information out of Legacy - as is. It just isn't there. You certainly 
have a great idea here. I think you should approach Legacy for an Add-On. I 
myself am not experienced enough, I think, in Access to import your code since 
I haven't been in the ftb file itself yet...however, I think with some work on 
my part I would be successful...Thank goodness for backups!
I'd be happy to be an experimenter to attempt such an import and would be happy 
to report my results to you! At the very least, my husband who also is a 
software/hardware engineer would be at my side making sure I didn't make a 
beginners boo boo!
Good luck with your approach to Legacy!
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Re: [LegacyUG] location Tamer

[Nannette Fretwell]

Hi Terry,

Your Access work looks great to me, also. I too was wondering how to get
this type of information out of Legacy - as is. It just isn't there. You
certainly have a great idea here. I think you should approach Legacy for an
Add-On. I myself am not experienced enough, I think, in Access to import
your code since I haven't been in the ftb file itself yet...however, I think
with some work on my part I would be successful...Thank goodness for
backups!

I'd be happy to be an experimenter to attempt such an import and would be
happy to report my results to you! At the very least, my husband who also is
a software/hardware engineer would be at my side making sure I didn't make a
beginners boo boo!

Good luck with your approach to Legacy!

Nan

On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 9:27 PM, Jerry  wrote:

> Hi Terry.  I just took a look at your screen shots.  Looks interesting.
>  I should mention that it appears as though all the embedded links you
> have below go only to screen 4 when clicked on.  I changed each one in
> my browser address to screen1, screen2, and screen3 which enabled me to
> view the other screens.  I haven't done anything else other than look at
> them, but I thought I would mention that to you.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jerry - MerriamFamilyTree.org
>
> On 8/26/2011 7:57 PM, Terry Foster wrote:
> > I'm a developer by trade and am fairly adept at Microsoft Access. I love
> > Legacy but I have found all genealogy software sorely lacking in the
> > ability to manage locations and do research on locations in the database.
> >
> > Since Legacy uses MS Access as a back-end I decided to add a form and
> > some code to do what I have always felt all genealogy software should
> > do. I would like someone to vet this work before I submit it to Legacy
> > as a suggested enhancement.  Please let me know if you are interested.
> >
> > Here's a few things this form does:
> >
> > Displays all location data.
> > (http://electricfoster.info/SourceDocs/LocationTamer/Screen1.jpg
> > )
> > Show all events tied to a location
> > (http://electricfoster.info/SourceDocs/LocationTamer/Screen2.jpg
> > )
> > List all child locations in a parent (All cities in a county)
> > (http://electricfoster.info/SourceDocs/LocationTamer/Screen3.jpg
> > )
> > Browse to google maps for each location
> > (http://electricfoster.info/SourceDocs/LocationTamer/Screen4.jpg)
> >
> > I have made a user guide, of
> > sorts:
> http://electricfoster.info/SourceDocs/LocationTamer/LocationTamer.pdf
> >
> > These features, coupled with the ability to quickly edit and standardize
> > locations in a database, are essential to me.  I'm just so happy I can
> > make it work in Legacy. I thought I would share.
> >
> > You will need to know how to import a form and a VBA module into an
> > Access database in order to use this.
> >
> > Please don't attempt this unless you know your way around an Access
> > database and please, always back up your data before trying something
> > like this.  I just may not be as good as I think I am!
> >
> > Terry
> >
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Re: [LegacyUG] change Child Relationship = Biological to blank

[Ron Taylor]

That is exactly what I thought could be done but it doesn't work with that 
table.  The message "This record cannot be Combined. It is used by Legacy as a 
blank record." is displayed.  Do you have any other ideas short of an Access 
update script?  Thanks for your response.
Ron Taylor

--- On Sat, 8/27/11, Dennis M. Kowallek  wrote:

> From: Dennis M. Kowallek 
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] change Child Relationship = Biological to blank
> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Date: Saturday, August 27, 2011, 5:30 AM
> On Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:55:16 -0700
> (PDT), Ron Taylor
> 
> wrote:
>
> >In Legacy, a blank Child Relationship to Parent means
> Biological.  I would like to get rid of the
> "Biological" and make them all blank.  If you get a
> sec, what script might accomplish that or perhaps you might
> want to put it into Ltools.
>
> You should be able to do this in Legacy. Go to View |
> Master Lists |
> Child Status (or is it Child-Parent Relationship) and
> select the
> "Biological" status. Then click the "Combine..." button and
> select the
> blank status at the top of the list.
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Getting rid of commas

[Ron Ferguson]

Anne,

With respect, I am a Lancastrian and my family is of Cumberland descent, and if 
it wasn’t for the fact that I have some experience of genealogy I would have 
some difficulty in recognising those locations.

I too set the Location List to read from right to left, but I put the Street as 
a separate field. That aside, Liverpool, Lancashire, England is the location, 
there is no field between Liverpool and Lancashire. As you can see, I also have 
no problem in going directly to Liverpool Lancashire. The problem I see is when 
you have district, of Liverpool eg. Everton, Liverpool, Lancashire, England, or 
Wavertree, Liverpool, Lancashire, England, which one should also have for 
Liverpool, btw.

I’m afraid that I simply find your system for our locations confusing, and our 
lack of a system is confusing enough, but then “Whatever works for you...”.

Ron Ferguson
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From: Anne Hollingshead
Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2011 2:06 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Getting rid of commas

Ron,

The benefits I find are ease of use.

If I have many entries for the same town/city ( I am not hung up on what a town 
is or how big it is I just use common usage)

I put

Liverpool, , Lancashire, England
Liverpool-9 King St, , Lancashire, England
Liverpool-St Peter's Church, , Lancashire, England

This way when I enter a new Liverpool location I immediately go to

Liverpool, , Lancashire, England

from there I click on the arrow and can check if I already have an entry for an 
address for that town. If not I quickly create a new one selecting and editing 
e.g. Liverpool, , Lancashire, England

When I go to the location list I have all my entries for each town together.

I have quite a few farm names or farm settlements so

Longtown-Oakbank, , Cumberland, England

I use the third position for counties or states whichever is relevant to that 
country.

When I sort I can immediately see e.g. all my Cumberland entries.

I use the second position for suburbs in large cities.

Camberwell, Melbourne, Victoria, Australia

It works for me.

Anne

On 27/08/2011 6:07 PM, Ron Ferguson wrote:
Anne,

I would be interested to learn what you consider to be the benefits of the 4
field convention. Frankly I cannot really see anything worthwhile for
non-Americans.

Ron Ferguson
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From: Anne Hollingshead
Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2011 4:03 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Getting rid of commas

Then the only way to overcome the problem would be to use an rtf file and
search and replace ", ,". ?

Is that right ? This can only be done in a few reports though ?

Can Legacy find a way to solve this problem so that non US users can benefit
from the 4 place system ?



Anne

On 27/08/2011 1:58 AM, Brian/Support wrote: Jenny, You are correct, the
format option in the reports are only for leading commas not those embedded
within the location. Brian Customer Support Millennia Corporation
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Benson wrote:  I may be wrong about this, but to me "leading commas" means
commas at the START of a location, such as ",,New Jersey, USA" or ",
Passaic, New Jersey, USA" so I would not expect either of the options above
to remove commas which indicate that a later element is missing, such as
"Clifton,, New Jersey, USA."



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Re: [LegacyUG] location Tamer

[Joan]

I'd be very happy to help with your 'location tamer'

All good wishes

Joan




On 27 Aug 2011, at 00:57, Terry Foster  wrote:

> I'm a developer by trade and am fairly adept at Microsoft Access. I love 
> Legacy but I have found all genealogy software sorely lacking in the ability 
> to manage locations and do research on locations in the database.
>
> Since Legacy uses MS Access as a back-end I decided to add a form and some 
> code to do what I have always felt all genealogy software should do. I would 
> like someone to vet this work before I submit it to Legacy as a suggested 
> enhancement.  Please let me know if you are interested.
>
> Here's a few things this form does:
>
> Displays all location data. 
> (http://electricfoster.info/SourceDocs/LocationTamer/Screen1.jpg)
> Show all events tied to a location 
> (http://electricfoster.info/SourceDocs/LocationTamer/Screen2.jpg)
> List all child locations in a parent (All cities in a county) 
> (http://electricfoster.info/SourceDocs/LocationTamer/Screen3.jpg)
> Browse to google maps for each location 
> (http://electricfoster.info/SourceDocs/LocationTamer/Screen4.jpg)
>
> I have made a user guide, of 
> sorts:http://electricfoster.info/SourceDocs/LocationTamer/LocationTamer.pdf
>
> These features, coupled with the ability to quickly edit and standardize 
> locations in a database, are essential to me.  I'm just so happy I can make 
> it work in Legacy. I thought I would share.
>
> You will need to know how to import a form and a VBA module into an Access 
> database in order to use this.
>
> Please don't attempt this unless you know your way around an Access database 
> and please, always back up your data before trying something like this.  I 
> just may not be as good as I think I am!
>
> Terry
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Re: [LegacyUG] Getting rid of commas

[Anne Hollingshead]

Ron,

The benefits I find are ease of use.

If I have many entries for the same town/city ( I am not hung up on what
a town is or how big it is I just use common usage)

I put

Liverpool, , Lancashire, England
Liverpool-9 King St, , Lancashire, England
Liverpool-St Peter's Church, , Lancashire, England

This way when I enter a new Liverpool location I immediately go to

Liverpool, , Lancashire, England

from there I click on the arrow and can check if I already have an entry
for an address for that town. If not I quickly create a new one
selecting and editing e.g. Liverpool, , Lancashire, England

When I go to the location list I have all my entries for each town together.

I have quite a few farm names or farm settlementsso

Longtown-Oakbank, , Cumberland, England

I use the third position for counties or states whichever is relevant to
that country.

When I sort I can immediately see e.g. all my Cumberland entries.

I use the second position for suburbs in large cities.

Camberwell, Melbourne, Victoria, Australia

It works for me.

Anne

On 27/08/2011 6:07 PM, Ron Ferguson wrote:
> Anne,
>
> I would be interested to learn what you consider to be the benefits of the 4
> field convention. Frankly I cannot really see anything worthwhile for
> non-Americans.
>
> Ron Ferguson
> http://www.fergys.co.uk/
>
>
> From: Anne Hollingshead
> Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2011 4:03 AM
> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Getting rid of commas
>
> Then the only way to overcome the problem would be to use an rtf file and
> search and replace ", ,". ?
>
> Is that right ? This can only be done in a few reports though ?
>
> Can Legacy find a way to solve this problem so that non US users can benefit
> from the 4 place system ?
>
>
>
> Anne
>
> On 27/08/2011 1:58 AM, Brian/Support wrote: Jenny, You are correct, the
> format option in the reports are only for leading commas not those embedded
> within the location. Brian Customer Support Millennia Corporation
> mailto:br...@legacyfamilytree..com http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com We are
> changing the world of genealogy! When replying to this message, please
> include all previous correspondence. Thanks. On 26/08/2011 6:16 AM, Jenny M
> Benson wrote:  I may be wrong about this, but to me "leading commas" means
> commas at the START of a location, such as ",,New Jersey, USA" or ",
> Passaic, New Jersey, USA" so I would not expect either of the options above
> to remove commas which indicate that a later element is missing, such as
> "Clifton,, New Jersey, USA."
>
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RE: [LegacyUG] Location for Bristol England

[Carl Cox]

<>

When mailing a letter that goes to someone else within the same city,
"city" was often used rather than writing out the city and state names.
But that cannot be used now because the sorting is often done in another
city.  Us older folks have seen strange things.

Carl


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Re: [LegacyUG] Location for Bristol England

[cranberryfrog]

And you are forgetting those very rural areas nowhere near civilization.
The “town” I live in has a pop of 200

michele



From: atlant...@aol.com
Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2011 6:42 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Location for Bristol England


And, of course, New Yorkers seem to treat the City as if it were some
independent city-state. Many of the records that I have from my family's
early years in America simply refers to neighborhoods and they do not even
mention the state. One old letter to my grandmother is addressed to her, the
name of the hotel she lived at, and "City". No street address, name of the
"City" or state at all. Apparently the post office delivered it.

Anyhow, I think that the 4 name "American" convention is actually a western
convention. Back east I do see a lot more variation.
Not every location in the USA is a "city". In Ohio, when I was growing up,
any populated place with less than 5000 inhabitants was a Village. After
5000 you could become a City.  Also, in states that use the township system
a specific location could be Deerfield (Twp), Mason (village or city),
Warren (County), Ohio (State or territory), USA.  Of course there are also
Indian Reservations which can have interesting location names. And the
pre-USA locations have been discussed several times on the list.



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Sent: Fri, Aug 26, 2011 4:11 pm
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Location for Bristol England



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Re: [LegacyUG] change Child Relationship = Biological to blank

[Dennis M . Kowallek]

On Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:55:16 -0700 (PDT), Ron Taylor
 wrote:

>In Legacy, a blank Child Relationship to Parent means Biological.  I would 
>like to get rid of the "Biological" and make them all blank.  If you get a 
>sec, what script might accomplish that or perhaps you might want to put it 
>into Ltools.

You should be able to do this in Legacy. Go to View | Master Lists |
Child Status (or is it Child-Parent Relationship) and select the
"Biological" status. Then click the "Combine..." button and select the
blank status at the top of the list.

--

Dennis Kowallek (LTools)
http://zippersoftware.com/ltools/index.htm
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ltools

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Re: [LegacyUG] Location for Bristol England

[atlantajm]

And, of course, New Yorkers seem to treat the City as if it were some 
independent city-state. Many of the records that I have from my family's early 
years in America simply refers to neighborhoods and they do not even mention 
the state. One old letter to my grandmother is addressed to her, the name of 
the hotel she lived at, and "City". No street address, name of the "City" or 
state at all. Apparently the post office delivered it.

Anyhow, I think that the 4 name "American" convention is actually a western 
convention. Back east I do see a lot more variation.


Not every location in the USA is a "city". In Ohio, when I was growing up, any 
populated place with less than 5000 inhabitants was a Village. After 5000 you 
could become a City.  Also, in states that use the township system a specific 
location could be Deerfield (Twp), Mason (village or city), Warren (County), 
Ohio (State or territory), USA.  Of course there are also Indian Reservations 
which can have interesting location names. And the pre-USA locations have been 
discussed several times on the list.




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Sent: Fri, Aug 26, 2011 4:11 pm
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Location for Bristol England





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Re: [LegacyUG] Getting rid of commas

[Ron Ferguson]

Anne,

I would be interested to learn what you consider to be the benefits of the 4
field convention. Frankly I cannot really see anything worthwhile for
non-Americans.

Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergys.co.uk/


From: Anne Hollingshead
Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2011 4:03 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Getting rid of commas

Then the only way to overcome the problem would be to use an rtf file and
search and replace ", ,". ?

Is that right ? This can only be done in a few reports though ?

Can Legacy find a way to solve this problem so that non US users can benefit
from the 4 place system ?



Anne

On 27/08/2011 1:58 AM, Brian/Support wrote: Jenny, You are correct, the
format option in the reports are only for leading commas not those embedded
within the location. Brian Customer Support Millennia Corporation
mailto:br...@legacyfamilytree..com http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com We are
changing the world of genealogy! When replying to this message, please
include all previous correspondence. Thanks. On 26/08/2011 6:16 AM, Jenny M
Benson wrote:  I may be wrong about this, but to me "leading commas" means
commas at the START of a location, such as ",,New Jersey, USA" or ",
Passaic, New Jersey, USA" so I would not expect either of the options above
to remove commas which indicate that a later element is missing, such as
"Clifton,, New Jersey, USA."



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