[LegacyUG] Correct file path for media

2012-01-20 Thread Tony Rolfe
As a general rule you should keep your data away from your programs.  If
you only have one partition, it doesn't really matter.  However, if you
have more than one drive then it is better to keep all your data on one
drive, well away from the operating system and programs.  That way, if
you have to reinstall the OS (or upgrade to a new one) your data are safe.

My layout is

C:\  a relatively small SSD for OS, programs and C:\Legacy

D:\  1TB HDD for data, including D:\Genealogy\ which has everything to
do with Legacy (except for the programs etc.) in sub folders such as
data\, Videos\, Pictures\.

E:\ Another 1TB HDD for other stuff

Now, I can simply back up EVERYTHING from my data drives onto external
1TB HDD's and can update or reinstall the OS without losing anything
important.

Tony


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Re: [LegacyUG] Crowded Legacy folder

2012-01-20 Thread Shirley Richardson
All to scary for me!!!

Cheers
Shirley
  - Original Message -
  From: Brian Lehman
  To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
  Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2012 4:11 PM
  Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Crowded Legacy folder


  Thanks Sherry,
  I restored the file NameSplittingRules.txt so I should be OK, hopefully!
  Take care,
  Brian


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Re: [LegacyUG] Crowded Legacy folder

2012-01-20 Thread Brian Lehman
Thanks Sherry,
I restored the file NameSplittingRules.txt so I should be OK, hopefully!
Take care,
Brian


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[LegacyUG] Correct file path for media

2012-01-20 Thread Brian Lehman
Hello,
Simple question: what should be the file path where I keep media such
are scans of vital records,census etc used in sources.
I dont have sound or video.
Currently my path is C:\Legacy\Docs..
but when I have to relink a scan that displays a question mark of a
missing file,it opens the Data folder,
then when I relink the scan,I find I have to relink ALL sources and
people this particular scan is attached to.
Thanks and take care,
Brian


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Re: [LegacyUG] Crowded Legacy folder

2012-01-20 Thread Sherry/Support
Not necessarily.  You can delete the log files EXCEPT for Install.log.
That keeps track of the installation and you won't be able to
uninstall without jumping through some hoops.

Don't delete the GeoCountryCodes.txt, GeoCountyCodes.txt,
GeoExtraCodes.tx, GeoStateCodes.txt, NameSplittingRules.txt (oops -too
late - hopefully an update or reinstall will restore that) or the
license.txt files

Don't delete the USR files, the TRN files, DBM files, graphic files,
CHW or CHM files or HTM files or the LIC files.

In other words - yes, you can delete the error logs, but that's all.

One should never mess about with deleting files in a program's folder


Sincerely,
Sherry
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On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 5:44 PM, Brian Lehman  wrote:
> Boy,that was close, Thanks for the info!
> The only things I deleted were Text Document in notepad.
> Things like: NameSplittingRules, Missing docs,RINLog, and pages
> referring to old trees that have been deleted for a while.
> And error logs, I assume notepad documents are ALL OK to delete, Legacy
> will add them as needed,is this correct?
> Thanks again and take care,
> Brian


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Re: [LegacyUG] Census Mortality Schedule

2012-01-20 Thread Terri Brown
I would use the template for the appropriate census year and use the override 
tabs to change "population schedule" to "mortality schedule" and also change 
the NARA film number.
 
Terri Brown



 From: Nancy Stevens 
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2012 9:52 PM
Subject: [LegacyUG] Census Mortality Schedule


Which source template do people use for federal census mortality schedules?


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Re: [LegacyUG] Crowded Legacy folder

2012-01-20 Thread Brian Lehman
Boy,that was close, Thanks for the info!
The only things I deleted were Text Document in notepad.
Things like: NameSplittingRules, Missing docs,RINLog, and pages
referring to old trees that have been deleted for a while.
And error logs, I assume notepad documents are ALL OK to delete, Legacy
will add them as needed,is this correct?
Thanks again and take care,
Brian


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Re: [LegacyUG] Check/Repair

2012-01-20 Thread Sherry/Support
If you back up and run check/repair and no problems are found, then
you can be sure that the file in the backup doesn't have any problems
since it's the same file you just ran the utility on.


Sincerely,
Sherry
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On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 5:19 PM, mbstx  wrote:
> I keep several backups on a flash drive (each day as I finish entering data I 
> back up that day's work, which is day/time stamped; I then delete the 
> earliest of the other back-ups).  I'm also backing up everything on my 
> computer to Mozy once a day.
>
> Perhaps I could do a check/repair on the 2nd most recent back-up (or one of 
> the others) to see what crops up?  Then I would know what the state of that 
> one was at least.  If I then did check/repair prior to backing up my latest 
> work, I would only be a bit off if something goofy happens.
>
> Does that make sense?
>
> Marianne


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RE: [LegacyUG] Check/Repair

2012-01-20 Thread mbstx
I keep several backups on a flash drive (each day as I finish entering data I 
back up that day's work, which is day/time stamped; I then delete the earliest 
of the other back-ups).  I'm also backing up everything on my computer to Mozy 
once a day.

Perhaps I could do a check/repair on the 2nd most recent back-up (or one of the 
others) to see what crops up?  Then I would know what the state of that one was 
at least.  If I then did check/repair prior to backing up my latest work, I 
would only be a bit off if something goofy happens.

Does that make sense?

Marianne

-Original Message-
>From: Ron Taylor 
>Sent: Jan 20, 2012 6:46 PM
>To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
>Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Check/Repair
>
>Marianne,
>Very true.  If your current database has errors in it and you have never run 
>check/repair, then all prior backups are suspect because they probably 
>contained the errors when they were generated.
>
>Others have stated that they would backup before check/repair which is not a 
>bad idea but based on the above, if errors are found and fixed, then backups 
>of the cleaned database would be preferable to backups which might contain 
>errors.
>Ron Taylor
>
>



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RE: [LegacyUG] Check/Repair

2012-01-20 Thread Ron Taylor
Marianne,
Very true.  If your current database has errors in it and you have never run 
check/repair, then all prior backups are suspect because they probably 
contained the errors when they were generated.

Others have stated that they would backup before check/repair which is not a 
bad idea but based on the above, if errors are found and fixed, then backups of 
the cleaned database would be preferable to backups which might contain errors.
Ron Taylor



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Re: [LegacyUG] England Places

2012-01-20 Thread Jerry
Oh good, I figured how to make it show up to me with whipped cream and you 
plain vanilla.  LOL

Ron Bernier  wrote:

>Thank you Jerry.  This message came through fine - no colored background.
>
>Ron Bernier
>Sent from my iPad
>
>On Jan 20, 2012, at 6:14 PM, Jerry  wrote:
>
>> Sorry Ron, but I thought it was pretty subtle and I like the contrast.
>> But I just un-checked the box to compose in html.  Did it still come
>> across with the colored background?  And thanks - the other Ron - for
>> that answer - so looks like I should just use Yorkshire, not Yorkshire
>> County, if I understood you correctly.
>>
>> Jerry
>>
>> On 01/20/2012 05:52 PM, Ron Bernier wrote:
>>> Jerry,
>>>
>>> With all due respect, I know that the list administrator made the
>>> decision to allow HTML on the Legacy list ( a decision that I for one
>>> feel was one of the worst decisions ever made on this list), but is
>>> really necessary to send messages with a colored background?  This is
>>> extremely distracting when trying to read email.
>>>
>>>
>>> Ron Bernier
>>> Woonsocket, RI
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 5:33 PM, Jerry  wrote:
 Ron, if you are still up - what is it about 5 or 6 hours difference there
 between the U.S. Eastern time zone - anyway, I thought you could answer a
 question for me.

 Are Yorkshire and Devonshire considered counties in England?  And, if so, 
 do
 you put the term county along with their names or just leave it at
 Devonshire or Yorkshire if that is all you have?

 Thanks,
 Jerry Boor - http://www.MerriamFamilyTree.org


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[LegacyUG] University attendance

2012-01-20 Thread Tony Rolfe
Thanks to all for the advice.

I created a source for everything and then created a University event to
handle the Uni side of this and a work event to handle the legal side of
it.  The other bits will be logged and sourced in the usual way.

Thanks again

Tony


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Re: [LegacyUG] Farm-centric report/tree?

2012-01-20 Thread Jenny M Benson
On 20/01/2012 22:56, Bjørn K Nilssen wrote:
> A lot of my family comes from small farms. Such farms ususally starts
> (or my records do anyway) around 1500-1600 as one big farm, and is
> then split into smaller farms as more children arrives. Farms have a
> Gnr, like 26, and when split they get a bnr as well, like 26/1, 26/2,
> 26/3 and so on. Sometimes they use an lnr as well, like 93a, 93b etc,
> and sometimes the numbers changes too:(  Some of my ancestors moved
> around a lot, while other branches lived at the same farm
> continuously for 450 years (and still going strong).
>
> I would like to make some reports/trees that are centred around these
> farms, to see who lived where and when. Would this be possible in
> Legacy? Or are there other charting programs or addons that will be
> able to do this? I've been fiddling around trying to find a way that
> works, but am not quite happy. How would you experts do this? Use
> custom events?

As I see it, the problem is that Legacy is "centred around" families,
not locations, and you say you want Reports or Trees that are "centred
around" certain locations.

One way of tackling it, and it may not be the best way, but it's all
that comes to me so far, is to create a separate Legacy family file
where instead of entering people to create a tree , you enter farms!
Put the numbers in the UserID field and the create Residence (or other
name) Events for each family who lived in that farm.

So you might start with Farm 26 entered in the "Father" position with
Events showing which families lived there at which dates.  Then if the
farm splits, enter "sons" with user IDs 26/1, 26/2 etc.

You could then run, say, a Descendant Book Report which instead of
showing a series of families with their Events would show a series of
related farms and which family lived there at different times.

I hope that makes some sort of sense.  I am not familiar with Norwegian
history, so just basing my suggestion on how I understand what you wrote.

--
Jenny M Benson


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Re: [LegacyUG] England Places

2012-01-20 Thread Ron Bernier
Thank you Jerry.  This message came through fine - no colored background.

Ron Bernier
Sent from my iPad

On Jan 20, 2012, at 6:14 PM, Jerry  wrote:

> Sorry Ron, but I thought it was pretty subtle and I like the contrast.
> But I just un-checked the box to compose in html.  Did it still come
> across with the colored background?  And thanks - the other Ron - for
> that answer - so looks like I should just use Yorkshire, not Yorkshire
> County, if I understood you correctly.
>
> Jerry
>
> On 01/20/2012 05:52 PM, Ron Bernier wrote:
>> Jerry,
>>
>> With all due respect, I know that the list administrator made the
>> decision to allow HTML on the Legacy list ( a decision that I for one
>> feel was one of the worst decisions ever made on this list), but is
>> really necessary to send messages with a colored background?  This is
>> extremely distracting when trying to read email.
>>
>>
>> Ron Bernier
>> Woonsocket, RI
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 5:33 PM, Jerry  wrote:
>>> Ron, if you are still up - what is it about 5 or 6 hours difference there
>>> between the U.S. Eastern time zone - anyway, I thought you could answer a
>>> question for me.
>>>
>>> Are Yorkshire and Devonshire considered counties in England?  And, if so, do
>>> you put the term county along with their names or just leave it at
>>> Devonshire or Yorkshire if that is all you have?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Jerry Boor - http://www.MerriamFamilyTree.org
>>>
>>>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Crowded Legacy folder

2012-01-20 Thread Sherry/Support
Everything's right where it belongs. Don't move anything and don't
delete anything (unless a tech tells you to to help resolve a problem)

In the Help file in Legacy, look up File: Extensions to see a list of
the file extensions.

They don't "open" because they're not supposed to open on their own.
They're files that work with the program.


Sincerely,
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On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 2:46 PM, Brian Lehman  wrote:
> Hello,
> I have a problem,I hope can be corrected, firstly my Legacy files works
> fine,everything opens properly.
> Years ago, I went through several Legacy installs and installed it in
> the wrong place, since corrected.
>
> My problem is that in the Legacy folder, C: Legacy, I have the usual
> folders,
> Backgrind, Backups,books,ColorSchemes,Common
> files,Data,Dictionaries,Docs,FamilySearch,forms,Geo,Interview,
> Legacyhome,LegacyCharting7,Passage
> Express,Pictures,sounds,temp,timelines,TreeImages,Video,videos,web,webpics.
>
> And many other files that don't open,I think belong in a sub folder.
> That I would like to clean up and place properly.
> Such as (foreign language).trn, ,dbm, and many .usr files.
> Problem is I don't know if these files belong in the main Legacy folder
> or in a sub folder.
>
> Example, the (foreign language).trn files MIGHT belong in the Common
> Files>PubCenterExamples because
> it has folders matching the language of the (foreign language).trn.
> Or maybe everything belongs in the main Legacy folder.
>
> Is there a list somewhere that would tell me where these files belong
> and will moving the create problems?
> Thanks for the advice,
> take care,
> Brian


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Re: [LegacyUG] England Places

2012-01-20 Thread Ron Ferguson


That's correct, Jerry, 'County' is never used as a subscript btw.

Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergys.co.uk/


-Original Message-
From: Jerry
Sent: Friday, January 20, 2012 11:13 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] England Places

Sorry Ron, but I thought it was pretty subtle and I like the contrast.
But I just un-checked the box to compose in html.  Did it still come
across with the colored background?  And thanks - the other Ron - for
that answer - so looks like I should just use Yorkshire, not Yorkshire
County, if I understood you correctly.

Jerry

On 01/20/2012 05:52 PM, Ron Bernier wrote:
> Jerry,
>
> With all due respect, I know that the list administrator made the
> decision to allow HTML on the Legacy list ( a decision that I for one
> feel was one of the worst decisions ever made on this list), but is
> really necessary to send messages with a colored background?  This is
> extremely distracting when trying to read email.
>
>
> Ron Bernier
> Woonsocket, RI
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 5:33 PM, Jerry
> wrote:
>> Ron, if you are still up - what is it about 5 or 6 hours difference there
>> between the U.S. Eastern time zone - anyway, I thought you could answer a
>> question for me.
>>
>> Are Yorkshire and Devonshire considered counties in England?  And, if so,
>> do
>> you put the term county along with their names or just leave it at
>> Devonshire or Yorkshire if that is all you have?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Jerry Boor - http://www.MerriamFamilyTree.org
>>



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Re: [LegacyUG] Crowded Legacy folder

2012-01-20 Thread Ron Ferguson
Brian,

I do not know of a list of folders, but from your description the files to
which you refer are in the correct place.

Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergys.co.uk/

-Original Message-
From: Brian Lehman
Sent: Friday, January 20, 2012 10:46 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Crowded Legacy folder

Hello,
I have a problem,I hope can be corrected, firstly my Legacy files works
fine,everything opens properly.
Years ago, I went through several Legacy installs and installed it in
the wrong place, since corrected.

My problem is that in the Legacy folder, C: Legacy, I have the usual
folders,
Backgrind, Backups,books,ColorSchemes,Common
files,Data,Dictionaries,Docs,FamilySearch,forms,Geo,Interview,
Legacyhome,LegacyCharting7,Passage
Express,Pictures,sounds,temp,timelines,TreeImages,Video,videos,web,webpics.

And many other files that don't open,I think belong in a sub folder.
That I would like to clean up and place properly.
Such as (foreign language).trn, ,dbm, and many .usr files.
Problem is I don't know if these files belong in the main Legacy folder
or in a sub folder.

Example, the (foreign language).trn files MIGHT belong in the Common
Files>PubCenterExamples because
it has folders matching the language of the (foreign language).trn.
Or maybe everything belongs in the main Legacy folder.

Is there a list somewhere that would tell me where these files belong
and will moving the create problems?
Thanks for the advice,
take care,
Brian



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Re: [LegacyUG] England Places

2012-01-20 Thread Jerry
Sorry Ron, but I thought it was pretty subtle and I like the contrast.
But I just un-checked the box to compose in html.  Did it still come
across with the colored background?  And thanks - the other Ron - for
that answer - so looks like I should just use Yorkshire, not Yorkshire
County, if I understood you correctly.

Jerry

On 01/20/2012 05:52 PM, Ron Bernier wrote:
> Jerry,
>
> With all due respect, I know that the list administrator made the
> decision to allow HTML on the Legacy list ( a decision that I for one
> feel was one of the worst decisions ever made on this list), but is
> really necessary to send messages with a colored background?  This is
> extremely distracting when trying to read email.
>
>
> Ron Bernier
> Woonsocket, RI
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 5:33 PM, Jerry  wrote:
>> Ron, if you are still up - what is it about 5 or 6 hours difference there
>> between the U.S. Eastern time zone - anyway, I thought you could answer a
>> question for me.
>>
>> Are Yorkshire and Devonshire considered counties in England?  And, if so, do
>> you put the term county along with their names or just leave it at
>> Devonshire or Yorkshire if that is all you have?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Jerry Boor - http://www.MerriamFamilyTree.org
>>
>>
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[LegacyUG] Farm-centric report/tree?

2012-01-20 Thread Bjørn K Nilssen
A lot of my family comes from small farms.
Such farms ususally starts (or my records do anyway) around 1500-1600 as one 
big farm, and is then split into smaller farms as more children arrives.
Farms have a Gnr, like 26, and when split they get a bnr as well, like 26/1, 
26/2, 26/3 and so on. Sometimes they use an lnr as well, like 93a, 93b etc, and 
sometimes the numbers changes too :( Some of my ancestors moved around a lot, 
while other branches lived at the same farm continuously for 450 years (and 
still going strong).

I would like to make some reports/trees that are centred around these farms, to 
see who lived where and when.
Would this be possible in Legacy?
Or are there other charting programs or addons that will be able to do this?
I've been fiddling around trying to find a way that works, but am not quite 
happy.
How would you experts do this?
Use custom events?

--
Bjørn K Nilssen - b...@bknilssen.no - 3D and panoramas



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Re: [LegacyUG] England Places

2012-01-20 Thread Ron Bernier
Jerry,

With all due respect, I know that the list administrator made the
decision to allow HTML on the Legacy list ( a decision that I for one
feel was one of the worst decisions ever made on this list), but is
really necessary to send messages with a colored background?  This is
extremely distracting when trying to read email.


Ron Bernier
Woonsocket, RI



On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 5:33 PM, Jerry  wrote:
> Ron, if you are still up - what is it about 5 or 6 hours difference there
> between the U.S. Eastern time zone - anyway, I thought you could answer a
> question for me.
>
> Are Yorkshire and Devonshire considered counties in England?  And, if so, do
> you put the term county along with their names or just leave it at
> Devonshire or Yorkshire if that is all you have?
>
> Thanks,
> Jerry Boor - http://www.MerriamFamilyTree.org
>
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] England Places

2012-01-20 Thread Ron Ferguson
Jerry,

Yes, I’m still up – it’s early yet! Yes they are both counties. In actual fact 
‘shire’ is the old name for for ‘county’, although not all counties end with 
it, eg. Essex, Cornwall etc.. In England the only county which is prefaced by 
‘County’ is County Durham.

Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergys.co.uk/


From: Jerry
Sent: Friday, January 20, 2012 10:33 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] England Places

Ron, if you are still up - what is it about 5 or 6 hours difference there 
between the U.S. Eastern time zone - anyway, I thought you could answer a 
question for me.

Are Yorkshire and Devonshire considered counties in England?  And, if so, do 
you put the term county along with their names or just leave it at Devonshire 
or Yorkshire if that is all you have?

Thanks,
Jerry Boor - http://www.MerriamFamilyTree.org


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[LegacyUG] Crowded Legacy folder

2012-01-20 Thread Brian Lehman
Hello,
I have a problem,I hope can be corrected, firstly my Legacy files works
fine,everything opens properly.
Years ago, I went through several Legacy installs and installed it in
the wrong place, since corrected.

My problem is that in the Legacy folder, C: Legacy, I have the usual
folders,
Backgrind, Backups,books,ColorSchemes,Common
files,Data,Dictionaries,Docs,FamilySearch,forms,Geo,Interview,
Legacyhome,LegacyCharting7,Passage
Express,Pictures,sounds,temp,timelines,TreeImages,Video,videos,web,webpics.

And many other files that don't open,I think belong in a sub folder.
That I would like to clean up and place properly.
Such as (foreign language).trn, ,dbm, and many .usr files.
Problem is I don't know if these files belong in the main Legacy folder
or in a sub folder.

Example, the (foreign language).trn files MIGHT belong in the Common
Files>PubCenterExamples because
it has folders matching the language of the (foreign language).trn.
Or maybe everything belongs in the main Legacy folder.

Is there a list somewhere that would tell me where these files belong
and will moving the create problems?
Thanks for the advice,
take care,
Brian






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[LegacyUG] England Places

2012-01-20 Thread Jerry
Ron, if you are still up - what is it about 5 or 6 hours difference
there between the U.S. Eastern time zone - anyway, I thought you could
answer a question for me.

Are Yorkshire and Devonshire considered counties in England?  And, if
so, do you put the term county along with their names or just leave it
at Devonshire or Yorkshire if that is all you have?

Thanks,
Jerry Boor - http://www.MerriamFamilyTree.org


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RE: [LegacyUG] Check/Repair

2012-01-20 Thread John Clifford
Ron Taylor wrote:  "External drive backups are valuable but will not provide
a "saved version" of your file should it be necessary to return to an
earlier edition of the database.  The external file would only be a backup
of the last version saved."

Not so.  If you use incremental backups you can keep as many historic
versions as you like, with the relevant pictures, media, gedcoms etc.  And
by using automatic scheduling you ensure that you never forget to backup or
mess it up.

John Clifford


-Original Message-
From: Ron Taylor [mailto:doit4...@yahoo.com]
Sent: 20 January 2012 14:10
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Check/Repair

The Legacy backup collects all the various pieces of the database into a zip
file container.  That zip file is smaller because of the techniques used in
the zip process but the container also preserves the file integrity.  A zip
file will not open if it is corrupted or partial.  External drive backups
are valuable but will not provide a "saved version" of your file should it
be necessary to return to an earlier edition of the database.  The external
file would only be a backup of the last version saved.  At times, an error
is only discovered days after the problem occurred and the current file and
the last backup are both infected.

Check/Repair is a very necessary procedure on any database.  It determines
if file structures are properly connected.  It does not repair data errors
which may be discovered in various problem reports.  It does not change
data.  It may remove incorrectly linked marriages, etc.  Anyone who fails to
run check/repair on a regular basis is going to be surprised to find that
the computer programming is not flawless.  Even if check/repair never finds
and fixes problems, it still needs to be run.

As a general rule, I believe that a clean Check/Repair should be completed
just prior to a backup so that if the backup needs to be restored, it can be
considered to be a clean database without structural errors.

Ron Taylor




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Re: [LegacyUG] Check/Repair

2012-01-20 Thread Ron Ferguson
Marnie,

I have always backed up both before *and* after using check/repair, it's
always easy to delete one or the other.

Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergys.co.uk/

-Original Message-
From: Marnie Oakes
Sent: Friday, January 20, 2012 8:57 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Check/Repair

To back up before running check/repair or to run check/repair before
backing up..that is the question. LUG seems to be pretty evenly
split. Thanks for all the input.
For me, since I currently have no visible problems, I think I will back
up before the check/repair, BUT I will note that the backup was before
check/repair.  My decision would be different if I suspected a corrupt
file.  Once I've looked at the error.log or discovered that there were
no errors, I guess that I will run check/repair more often before I back
up.  Keeping track of backups seems to be essential here.

Marnie


On 1/19/2012 3:19 PM, Marnie Oakes wrote:
> Right now I have no Legacy problems.  However, I have not run File
> Maintenance in weeks because the last time I did I ended up with a very
> mixed up files.  Children of parents in the 1900s ended up in Medieval
> families; individuals from my husband's database were intermixed with
> mine, etc.  I went back to my backups and have been ignoring the
> problem.  I am concerned that I should be doing the maintenance or that
> a problem may occur that requires maintenance for the solution.
>
> Any hints on how to do run check/repair without problems? Making
> backups certainly saved my data. I checked the archives, but didn't find
> that anyone else had had my problems.
>
> Marnie Oakes
>



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RE: [LegacyUG] Checking for file DIFFERENCES

2012-01-20 Thread Carl Cox
How would Intellishare work for that? It should merge all records that
are the same, and present you with the changes. I think it works
automatically.

I would first make a backup, perhaps of each one, then just merge the
files.

I am looking for comments, as I may need to do this myself.

Carl


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Re: [LegacyUG] Check/Repair

2012-01-20 Thread Marnie Oakes
To back up before running check/repair or to run check/repair before
backing up..that is the question. LUG seems to be pretty evenly
split. Thanks for all the input.
For me, since I currently have no visible problems, I think I will back
up before the check/repair, BUT I will note that the backup was before
check/repair.  My decision would be different if I suspected a corrupt
file.  Once I've looked at the error.log or discovered that there were
no errors, I guess that I will run check/repair more often before I back
up.  Keeping track of backups seems to be essential here.

Marnie


On 1/19/2012 3:19 PM, Marnie Oakes wrote:
> Right now I have no Legacy problems.  However, I have not run File
> Maintenance in weeks because the last time I did I ended up with a very
> mixed up files.  Children of parents in the 1900s ended up in Medieval
> families; individuals from my husband's database were intermixed with
> mine, etc.  I went back to my backups and have been ignoring the
> problem.  I am concerned that I should be doing the maintenance or that
> a problem may occur that requires maintenance for the solution.
>
> Any hints on how to do run check/repair without problems? Making
> backups certainly saved my data. I checked the archives, but didn't find
> that anyone else had had my problems.
>
> Marnie Oakes
>
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Fw: Recommendations on Website/Sharing Information

2012-01-20 Thread Ron Ferguson
There is also HuMogen from http://humogen.com/ , a php/MySQL program, similar 
to TNG but free Open Source. As with TNG you need a web host.

Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergys.co.uk/


From: Bob Rowe
Sent: Friday, January 20, 2012 8:11 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Fw: Recommendations on Website/Sharing Information

The first thing that comes to my mind is The Next Generation that you upload to 
an Internet host. Hosting costs vary but you could easily find a $5 per month 
plan. TNG is only $30. I exported my entire Legacy family tree to a 5.5 gedcom 
and uploaded it to MySQL on my host have have a wonderful family sharing 
situation.
http://www.lythgoes.net/genealogy/software.php


Bob



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To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Friday, January 20, 2012 1:20:35 PM
Subject: [LegacyUG] Fw: Recommendations on Website/Sharing Information




From: Carolyn White 
Subject: Recommendations on Website/Sharing Information
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Date: Friday, January 20, 2012, 10:46 AM


  My quite small family history organizations wants to create at 
reasonable cost ($5 a month or less) some centralized communications mechanism 
for family announcements (deaths, births, upcoming reunions) and family history 
(GEDCOM) files.  Several of us have different computerized info on different 
formats (I use Legacy; others use other programs).

  Does anyone have experience with and can recommend a host website 
or similar function that we can consider?  It would be particularly helpful if 
you have had experience in uploading Legacy files to such a hosting-type 
mechanism.  Thanks in advance for any responses.

  Carolyn White





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Re: [LegacyUG] Fw: Recommendations on Website/Sharing Information

2012-01-20 Thread Bob Rowe
The first thing that comes to my mind is The Next Generation that you upload to 
an Internet host. Hosting costs vary but you could easily find a $5 per month 
plan. TNG is only $30. I exported my entire Legacy family tree to a 5.5 gedcom 
and uploaded it to MySQL on my host have have a wonderful family sharing 
situation.
http://www.lythgoes.net/genealogy/software.php


Bob

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From: Carolyn White 
Subject: Recommendations on Website/Sharing Information
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Date: Friday, January 20, 2012, 10:46 AM




My quite small family history organizations wants to create at reasonable cost 
($5 a month or less) some centralized communications mechanism for family 
announcements (deaths, births, upcoming reunions) and family history (GEDCOM) 
files. Several of us have different computerized info on different formats (I 
use Legacy; others use other programs).

Does anyone have experience with and can recommend a host website or similar 
function that we can consider? It would be particularly helpful if you have had 
experience in uploading Legacy files to such a hosting-type mechanism. Thanks 
in advance for any responses.

Carolyn White




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Re: [LegacyUG] Fw: Recommendations on Website/Sharing Information

2012-01-20 Thread Jerry
Hi Carolyn.  I'm sure you will get a thousand different opinions, but
quite a few people who use Legacy on the desktop use a thing called TNG
(The Next Generation of Genealogy Sitebuilding) on their websites.
Legacy is the best desktop program, but TNG has better features when it
comes to the application to the website.  TNG can do all that and more
and after the initial outlay of $29.95 for the software (one time until
a major upgrade), the cost can be as low as about $4.99 per month on the
hosting sites that TNG recommends.  You can use Legacy and transfer to
your website via a GEDCOM.  Good luck!

Jerry Boor - http://www.MerriamFamilyTree.org
To Take A Look - enter username=FullGuest; password=merriam

On 01/20/2012 02:20 PM, Carolyn White wrote:
>
>
> From: Carolyn White 
> Subject: Recommendations on Website/Sharing Information
> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Date: Friday, January 20, 2012, 10:46 AM
>
> My quite small family history organizations wants to create at
> reasonable cost ($5 a month or less) some centralized
> communications mechanism for family announcements (deaths, births,
> upcoming reunions) and family history (GEDCOM) files.  Several of
> us have different computerized info on different formats (I use
> Legacy; others use other programs).
> Does anyone have experience with and can recommend a host website
> or similar function that we can consider?  It would be
> particularly helpful if you have had experience in uploading
> Legacy files to such a hosting-type mechanism.  Thanks in advance
> for any responses.
> Carolyn White
>
>
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Fw: Recommendations on Website/Sharing Information

2012-01-20 Thread Mary Trogg
I love Weebly. Up to 3 free websites, unlimited pages, free blog. I've
uploaded legacy report PDFs, no problem. Not a genealogy tree site, but
not bad for free and you can always make screen shots..


On 1/20/2012 12:20 PM, Carolyn White wrote:
>
>
> From: Carolyn White 
> Subject: Recommendations on Website/Sharing Information
> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Date: Friday, January 20, 2012, 10:46 AM
>
> My quite small family history organizations wants to create at
> reasonable cost ($5 a month or less) some centralized
> communications mechanism for family announcements (deaths, births,
> upcoming reunions) and family history (GEDCOM) files.  Several of
> us have different computerized info on different formats (I use
> Legacy; others use other programs).
> Does anyone have experience with and can recommend a host website
> or similar function that we can consider?  It would be
> particularly helpful if you have had experience in uploading
> Legacy files to such a hosting-type mechanism.  Thanks in advance
> for any responses.
> Carolyn White
>
>
>
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[LegacyUG] Fw: Recommendations on Website/Sharing Information

2012-01-20 Thread Carolyn White



From: Carolyn White 
Subject: Recommendations on Website/Sharing Information
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Date: Friday, January 20, 2012, 10:46 AM







My quite small family history organizations wants to create at reasonable cost 
($5 a month or less) some centralized communications mechanism for family 
announcements (deaths, births, upcoming reunions) and family history (GEDCOM) 
files.  Several of us have different computerized info on different formats (I 
use Legacy; others use other programs). 
 
Does anyone have experience with and can recommend a host website or similar 
function that we can consider?  It would be particularly helpful if you have 
had experience in uploading Legacy files to such a hosting-type mechanism.  
Thanks in advance for any responses.
 
Carolyn White
 

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Re: [LegacyUG] Checking for file DIFFERENCES

2012-01-20 Thread Laird
Hi Laurie,

I really agree with you about the difficulty of version control.  I have
complained on this LUG about Legacy changing the file date stamp even if you
just view a database.  Seems as though this isn't a Legacy problem but a problem
with the Microsoft database system they use.  In my case my database got
corrupted and I needed to compare the Legacy zipped backup files to see which
version one was good.  Sometimes when I know I am just browsing I will create a
copy of the data file to use for viewing so the real file doesn't get a new date
stamp.


This is what I do to compare file1 vs file2:

Do this for both file1 and file2.
In Legacy, click File>Export To>GEDCOM File
A window will open-in the top on the Options tab  Produce file for: (select)
Legacy, Character Set ANSI
then click Select File Name and START EXPORT
Now you have saved two GEDCOM files which you can compare.
   I use WinMerge which is free/open source, user friendly and presents the
differences quite well.

You can get WinMerge here: http://winmerge.org/

When viewing the GEDCOM data note the Update/modified date in the GED file.

This isn't the best solution, i.e. it doesn't do a direct compare of
Sourcewriter sources.  And likely some other things I am not aware of.
I spent a lot of time trying to do this.  I bought MudCreek GENMatcher hoping it
would do what I wanted but it didn't.

On 1/20/2012 9:32 AM, laurie curtis wrote:
>
> I’m made a mess of things and cannot be the only one with this problem.
> Really lost the plot with version control and have managed to enter new data
> in to back up versions of files. Also because every time a file opens, it gets
> a new date, I don’t always know what file is the newest –just know which 
> one I
> opened most recently.  This compounds the version control issue when I THINK
> I’m entering data in most current file, but entering it in a back up.  
> Because
> I’m afraid to lose what I’ve done, I save the backup with a new name.  
> Now I’m
> in a real mess.
>
>
> Would love to know if anyone has figured out a way to compare files for what
> is DIFFERENT.  I know we can compare for what is the same, but that won’t 
> help
> me figure out which files have new data?  Thoughts for how to get myself out
> of this mud hole?   Would also really welcome ideas for how people handle file
> management – I obviously need some lessons!!
>
>
> Laurie
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Picture Gallery Default

2012-01-20 Thread Sherry/Support
Using the "Suggest a new Feature" link in the Support section of the
Legacy Home tab in Legacy, please submit this to us on the Suggestion
form

You can also go to our website www.LegacyFamilyTree.com > Help Center
> Make A Suggestion for the same form.


Sincerely,
Sherry
Technical Support
Legacy Family Tree



On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 1:24 PM, Carol Gardner  wrote:
> In the Picture Gallery where you can choose to look at "Individual"
> pictures, or "All Pictures," etc., is there a way to set the default to
> seeing "All Pictures," when the Gallery opens? The default is "Individual"
> pictures. Even if I choose "All Pictures," then close the window, when I
> return to that person's Picture Gallery, it opens up with "Individual"
> pictures. I would preferably like the picture gallery to open with "All
> Pictures" for everyone in the database.
>
> Thanks.
> Carol


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Re: [LegacyUG] Check repair - error log

2012-01-20 Thread Paula Ryburn
Woo hoo - no errors! ;)
Thanks,
 --Paula in Texas
Researching:  Adair Baker Beasley Benson Betz Bigley Blagrave Burton Chapman
Clement Clough Coppernoll Costine Daulton Dinwiddie Doody Ellis Exline Field
Floran Floyd Gates Goodale Gordon Gump Hale Harbaugh Hind Hopkins Hughes Hurdle
Jones Klein Koyle Laswell McDonald Misner Passwaters Pelton Roberts Roche Ryburn
Short Singer Sullivan Weller Williams





From: Brian/Support 
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Fri, January 20, 2012 10:46:25 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Check repair - error log

Paula,

The error.log file is only created if Legacy finds and fixes errors. If
the error.log file is created you will get a window reporting that
errors were found and it will offer to open the error log file.

Brian
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Millennia Corporation
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On 20/01/2012 11:33 AM, Paula Ryburn wrote:
> I just ran check repair and can't find the error log.  Help says:
>
> Error Log
> All actions taken during the verifying process are recorded in a text  file
> named ERROR.LOG in the program folder.  This file can be viewed with any  text
> editor or word processor.
>
> "program folder" = "Legacy" right?  No file.  Does that mean no errors?
>Nothing
> was repaired?
>
> I thought maybe "All actions" meant there would be at least a recording of the
> 170 or so steps with "successful" or something ?
>
> Thanks,--Paula in Texas

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Re: [LegacyUG] Check repair - error log

2012-01-20 Thread Brian/Support
Paula,

The error.log file is only created if Legacy finds and fixes errors. If
the error.log file is created you will get a window reporting that
errors were found and it will offer to open the error log file.

Brian
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On 20/01/2012 11:33 AM, Paula Ryburn wrote:
> I just ran check repair and can't find the error log.  Help says:
>
> Error Log
> All actions taken during the verifying process are recorded in a text  file
> named ERROR.LOG in the program folder.  This file can be viewed with any  text
> editor or word processor.
>
> "program folder" = "Legacy" right?  No file.  Does that mean no errors?  
> Nothing
> was repaired?
>
> I thought maybe "All actions" meant there would be at least a recording of the
> 170 or so steps with "successful" or something ?
>
> Thanks,--Paula in Texas


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Re: [LegacyUG] Check repair - error log

2012-01-20 Thread Sherry/Support
Check the folder where the Family File is stored.


Sincerely,
Sherry
Technical Support
Legacy Family Tree



On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 8:33 AM, Paula Ryburn
 wrote:
> I just ran check repair and can't find the error log.  Help says:
>
> Error Log
>
> All actions taken during the verifying process are recorded in a text file
> named ERROR.LOG in the program folder. This file can be viewed with any text
> editor or word processor.
>
>
> "program folder" = "Legacy" right?  No file.  Does that mean no errors?
>  Nothing was repaired?
>
> I thought maybe "All actions" meant there would be at least a recording of
> the 170 or so steps with "successful" or something ?
>
> Thanks,
> --Paula in Texas


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Re: [LegacyUG] Check/Repair

2012-01-20 Thread Sherry/Support
Please note that there is a warning to do a backup *before* doing the
check/repair.  That's becuase this can make some changes in the Family
File which you're not happy with and you can always delete the file
after the check/repair and restore the backup.

It doesn't happen often, but we do see it.

Backups should be done before *any* global change to the Family File.



Sincerely,
Sherry
Technical Support
Legacy Family Tree



On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 6:10 AM, Ron Taylor  wrote:

> As a general rule, I believe that a clean Check/Repair should be completed 
> just prior to a backup so that if the backup needs to be restored, it can be 
> considered to be a clean database without structural errors.
>
> Ron Taylor
>


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Re: [LegacyUG] Check repair - error log

2012-01-20 Thread Paula Ryburn
I just ran check repair and can't find the error log.  Help says:

Error Log
All actions taken during the verifying process are recorded in a text  file
named ERROR.LOG in the program folder.  This file can be viewed with any  text
editor or word processor.

"program folder" = "Legacy" right?  No file.  Does that mean no errors?  Nothing
was repaired?

I thought maybe "All actions" meant there would be at least a recording of the
170 or so steps with "successful" or something ?

Thanks,--Paula in Texas
Researching:  Adair Baker Beasley Benson Betz Bigley Blagrave Burton Chapman
Clement Clough Coppernoll Costine Daulton Dinwiddie Doody Ellis Exline Field
Floran Floyd Gates Goodale Gordon Gump Hale Harbaugh Hind Hopkins Hughes Hurdle
Jones Klein Koyle Laswell McDonald Misner Passwaters Pelton Roberts Roche Ryburn
Short Singer Sullivan Weller Williams





From: Jenny M Benson 
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Thu, January 19, 2012 4:29:43 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] University attendance

On 19/01/2012 06:16, Tony Rolfe wrote:
> I have just discovered the Ancestry database "Cambridge University
> Alumni, 1261-1900" which records information about almost all Cambridge
> Alumni.
>
> One of our family is recorded with a wealth of information about his
> schooling and subsequent career.
>
> Can anyone advise the best way to record this?
>
> I'm trying to build a "University" event but this doesn't seem adequate
> to cover all the information.  The actual record is shown between the lines
>
> --
>
> Name: William [John] Smelter. Cadman
> College: TRINITY HALL
> Entered: Michs. 1860
> Born: 1838
> Died: 13 Sep 1881
> More Information: Adm. pens. (age 22) at TRINITY HALL, Aug. 18, 1860.
> S. and h. of William, Esq., of Handsworth Grange, Sheffield, Yorks. B.
> 1838. Matric. Michs. 1860. Migrated to Peterhouse, Oct. 25, 1864. Adm.
> at Gray's Inn, Nov. 17, 1860. Migrated to the Inner Temple, Nov. 20,
> 1861. Called to the Bar, 1865. On the Midland Circuit; afterwards on the
> North Eastern Circuit. Of Redworth House, Clifton, York. Died Sept. 13,
> 1881, at York. Father of Philip S. (1890). (Index Soc. Publications,
> Obit. Notices, 1881.)
>
> ---
>
> I really don't want to create a whole list of events for the university
> stuff, but I suspect that things like admission to the bar would warrant
> their own event.

I would create a University Event and and put the relevant parts of the
information above into the Notes field.  Then create Events for the
other significant facts.

I have used the Cambridge Alumni list from Ancestry as a Source and used
the Generic>Online database SourceWriter template, copying all the text
into the Source Detail Text field.


--
Jenny M Benson


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Re: [LegacyUG] Checking for file DIFFERENCES

2012-01-20 Thread Jenny M Benson
On 20/01/2012 14:32, laurie curtis wrote:
>
> I’m made a mess of things and cannot be the only one with this problem.
> Really lost the plot with version control and have managed to enter new
> data in to back up versions of files. Also because every time a file
> opens, it gets a new date, I don’t always know what file is the newest
> –just know which one I opened most recently.  This compounds the version
> control issue when I THINK I’m entering data in most current file, but
> entering it in a back up.  Because I’m afraid to lose what I’ve done, I
> save the backup with a new name.  Now I’m in a real mess.
>

To avoid this sort of effor in the future I would suggest that you save
your back-ups somewhere quite different to where your working file is
kept (you should be doing this anyway) and got to Options>General, check
the box for "Always open this file" and select your working file in the
box below.

It also sounds as though your "backups" are not the zip files created by
Legacy Backup, as these need to be Restored, not Opened as you do with a
normal family file.  If you use Legacy Backup you will can choose where
to save the backup file and you have the option to have the current date
and/or time appended to the filename so there would never be doubt as to
which was your latest backup.

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Re: [LegacyUG] Check/Repair

2012-01-20 Thread Gene Young
On 1/20/2012 10:00 AM, Ron Bernier wrote:
> Check/repair is checking/repairing the currently "open" database. Not
> your backups.
>
> Ron Bernier
> Sent from my Verizon iPhone
>
But if your currently open database has corrupted information and you
save it and back it up to your external drive, the back up will also
have corrupted information.  The check/repair BEFORE exit and back up
ensures the back up is clean also.


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Re: [LegacyUG] Check/Repair

2012-01-20 Thread Ron Bernier
Check/repair is checking/repairing the currently "open" database. Not
your backups.

Ron Bernier
Sent from my Verizon iPhone

On Jan 20, 2012, at 9:57 AM, mbstx  wrote:

> RE your last sentence - if one has never used Check/Repair, wouldn't all 
> back-ups be suspect, and none considered clean? Marianne
>
> -Original Message-
>> From: Ron Taylor 
>> Sent: Jan 20, 2012 8:10 AM
>> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
>> Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Check/Repair
>>
>> The Legacy backup collects all the various pieces of the database into a zip 
>> file container.  That zip file is smaller because of the techniques used in 
>> the zip process but the container also preserves the file integrity.  A zip 
>> file will not open if it is corrupted or partial.  External drive backups 
>> are valuable but will not provide a "saved version" of your file should it 
>> be necessary to return to an earlier edition of the database.  The external 
>> file would only be a backup of the last version saved.  At times, an error 
>> is only discovered days after the problem occurred and the current file and 
>> the last backup are both infected.
>>
>> Check/Repair is a very necessary procedure on any database.  It determines 
>> if file structures are properly connected.  It does not repair data errors 
>> which may be discovered in various problem reports.  It does not change 
>> data.  It may remove incorrectly linked marriages, etc.  Anyone who fails to 
>> run check/repair on a regular basis is going to be surprised to find that 
>> the computer programming is not flawless.  Even if check/repair never finds 
>> and fixes problems, it still needs to be run.
>>
>> As a general rule, I believe that a clean Check/Repair should be completed 
>> just prior to a backup so that if the backup needs to be restored, it can be 
>> considered to be a clean database without structural errors.
>>
>> Ron Taylor
>>
>
>
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RE: [LegacyUG] Check/Repair

2012-01-20 Thread mbstx
RE your last sentence - if one has never used Check/Repair, wouldn't all 
back-ups be suspect, and none considered clean? Marianne

-Original Message-
>From: Ron Taylor 
>Sent: Jan 20, 2012 8:10 AM
>To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
>Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Check/Repair
>
>The Legacy backup collects all the various pieces of the database into a zip 
>file container.  That zip file is smaller because of the techniques used in 
>the zip process but the container also preserves the file integrity.  A zip 
>file will not open if it is corrupted or partial.  External drive backups are 
>valuable but will not provide a "saved version" of your file should it be 
>necessary to return to an earlier edition of the database.  The external file 
>would only be a backup of the last version saved.  At times, an error is only 
>discovered days after the problem occurred and the current file and the last 
>backup are both infected.
>
>Check/Repair is a very necessary procedure on any database.  It determines if 
>file structures are properly connected.  It does not repair data errors which 
>may be discovered in various problem reports.  It does not change data.  It 
>may remove incorrectly linked marriages, etc.  Anyone who fails to run 
>check/repair on a regular basis is going to be surprised to find that the 
>computer programming is not flawless.  Even if check/repair never finds and 
>fixes problems, it still needs to be run.
>
>As a general rule, I believe that a clean Check/Repair should be completed 
>just prior to a backup so that if the backup needs to be restored, it can be 
>considered to be a clean database without structural errors.
>
>Ron Taylor
>



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[LegacyUG] Checking for file DIFFERENCES

2012-01-20 Thread laurie curtis



I’m made a mess of things and cannot be the only one with
this problem.  Really lost the plot with version control and have managed
to enter new data in to back up versions of files. Also because every time a
file opens, it gets a new date, I don’t always know what file is the newest
–just know which one I opened most recently.  This compounds the version
control issue when I THINK I’m entering data in most current file, but entering
it in a back up.  Because I’m afraid to lose what I’ve done, I save the
backup with a new name.  Now I’m in a real mess.

Would love to know if anyone has figured out a way to
compare files for what is DIFFERENT.  I know we can compare for what is
the same, but that won’t help me figure out which files have new data?
Thoughts for how to get myself out of this mud hole?   Would also
really welcome ideas for how people handle file management – I obviously need
some lessons!!

 Laurie




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RE: [LegacyUG] Check/Repair

2012-01-20 Thread Ron Taylor
The Legacy backup collects all the various pieces of the database into a zip 
file container.  That zip file is smaller because of the techniques used in the 
zip process but the container also preserves the file integrity.  A zip file 
will not open if it is corrupted or partial.  External drive backups are 
valuable but will not provide a "saved version" of your file should it be 
necessary to return to an earlier edition of the database.  The external file 
would only be a backup of the last version saved.  At times, an error is only 
discovered days after the problem occurred and the current file and the last 
backup are both infected.

Check/Repair is a very necessary procedure on any database.  It determines if 
file structures are properly connected.  It does not repair data errors which 
may be discovered in various problem reports.  It does not change data.  It may 
remove incorrectly linked marriages, etc.  Anyone who fails to run check/repair 
on a regular basis is going to be surprised to find that the computer 
programming is not flawless.  Even if check/repair never finds and fixes 
problems, it still needs to be run.

As a general rule, I believe that a clean Check/Repair should be completed just 
prior to a backup so that if the backup needs to be restored, it can be 
considered to be a clean database without structural errors.

Ron Taylor




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RE: [LegacyUG] Check/Repair

2012-01-20 Thread John Clifford
I can't see the point of making Legacy backups.  I keep all Legacy datafiles
in a sub-folder of My Documents and they are backed up every week (onto an
external hard drive) with all my other documents and data by a specialised
backup/restore program, which is likely to be more reliable and flexible
than anything built into Legacy (and much safer than anything in the cloud).

I have used Legacy for about 8 years without problems and never heard of
File Maintenance or run it to my knowledge.

John Clifford


-Original Message-
From: Marnie Oakes [mailto:marnie.oa...@verizon.net]
Sent: 19 January 2012 20:20
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Check/Repair

Right now I have no Legacy problems.  However, I have not run File
Maintenance in weeks because the last time I did I ended up with a very
mixed up files.  Children of parents in the 1900s ended up in Medieval
families; individuals from my husband's database were intermixed with mine,
etc.  I went back to my backups and have been ignoring the problem.  I am
concerned that I should be doing the maintenance or that a problem may occur
that requires maintenance for the solution.

   Any hints on how to do run check/repair without problems? Making backups
certainly saved my data. I checked the archives, but didn't find that anyone
else had had my problems.

Marnie Oakes


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