RE: [LegacyUG] Event Locations
Where does the should come from? I have gradually moved to using the latest version of place names because I am producing a family tree for family members and other people who are not expert genealogists. I want to make the tree as meaningful and easy to understand as possible. In particular: 1. seeing the current name for a location gives the average user a good idea of where the event took place, whereas using obsolete spelling, county name, or (especially) country name will be misleading or meaningless 2. using the Bing geo-coding tool in Legacy is unnecessarily arduous if you use old names 3. when geo-codes are translated back onto a map, for instance in Google on TNG, the user will only see modern names and may be puzzled if the event name is different. 4. for fellow geeks, the old name(s) can be put in the source text/detail and will still be documented. Incidentally the UK Registration Districts names change successively in some areas, like country names. I was reading recently about a place in Central Europe that was in three different countries on the same day, in 1939 I think. Having said all that an aka facility in Legacy for Location would be very useful and I will add a request. John Clifford -Original Message- From: Sherry/Support [mailto:she...@legacyfamilytree.com] Sent: 03 February 2012 21:09 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Event Locations Locations should always be entered as they were at the time of the event. You can add notes about changes in notes for the location in the Master Location List or in the notes for the event Location Notes can be included in the Location Index in a report. I's always interesting to read of how much a town has moved around. In the US we just see county or state boundaries change around a town not whole countries, thankfully! Sincerely, Sherry Technical Support Legacy Family Tree On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 12:46 PM, Ray Rhoads rhodo...@bellsouth.net wrote: This may not be the right place to ask this question but here go's anyway. When entering a place name for an event, (birth, death etc.) that took place in a foreign country should you use present day locations or the location at the time of the event? My reason for asking is that my mothers family comes from an town in present day Germany. However they came to this country before there was a Germany. Although the events always occurred in the same town that town at times was part of different Countries or Kingdoms. I have cases where people were born in Bavaria, married France and died in Prussia and in between lived in another kingdom but never left the town. Your thoughts would be appreciated Ray Rhoads Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Event Locations
And the two have a different way of expressing them - so which would be used? Ron Ferguson http://www.fergys.co.uk/ -Original Message- From: Mike Fry Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2012 8:47 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Event Locations On 2012/02/05 04:48, RICHARD SCHULTHIES wrote: A possible solution, would be to have placenames using lat/long whjch could collect as many 'spelling' changes, including multiple states for an early place (KY/WV/VA). With the inherent inaccuracies of both Bing and Google, that's not really feasible. -- Regards, Mike Fry Johannesburg Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Event Locations
The problem is less if you use Ancestry or other transcriptions instead of findmypast. Registration Districts often cross county boundaries but are named after a town in one of the counties. Findmypast seem to insist on entering the name of the county which contains the town which is part of the registration district name for all the locations within that RD, regardless of the fact that the actual County for the location concerned is correctly written on the original registration form. Whenever I have asked for a correction to the proper County name they have refused and then added we aim to provide you with an exact copy of the original census page When I have pointed out that this is a blatant lie I have received no reply. Not strictly related to Legacy I am afraid, but it is infuriating when one is trying to search for people born in a particular county and they dont appear on a findmypast search (which is usually better than its competitors) not just as a result of human error but of deliberate policy. John Clifford -Original Message- From: Ron Ferguson [mailto:ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk] Sent: 04 February 2012 11:14 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Event Locations Tony, Which country's censuses are your referring to? For the English/Welsh censuses it may well appear that this is the case, whereas in fact it is not. The reason being that the locations are recorded in Registration Districts which are not the same as the locations, although the detail above the columns is. Ron Ferguson http://www.fergys.co.uk/ -Original Message- From: Tony Rolfe Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 5:41 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Event Locations On Fri, 03 Feb 2012 18:32:15 -0800 Bjørn K Nilssen I prefer that second school too. What I'm interested in is where that location is, and who shared it. Adding 10 or more differently spelled versions isn't really that useful IMO. It would be nice to have an AKA for locations too though, with date and text fields. What would be really nice would be to have date-linked short names for a given location. Something like Long Name: Sometown, someplace, Somecountry Short name: to 31 mar 1837: An original short name Short Name: to 1 Jan 1951: a different short name here Short Name: to: current short name for the place One problem I have is that Census enumerators described the same location differently on different censuses. It would be nice to record what they actually wrote, without having to make a different location entry for each census. Now the program would pick the short name according to the date for the display. Actually, it might be useful to have both short and long names varying by date with a Location name to identify it, but which isn't used in reports. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Event Locations
On 05/02/2012 12:50, John Clifford wrote: Where does the should come from? Genealogy, like so many other activities, has acquired various rules for best practice which have been developed by expert and professional users over the years so that there is some sort of standardization and agreement about how best to present information. That doesn't mean to say that everyone has to follow such rules slavishly if they choose not to do so. But those who want to be taken seriously by experts and professionals, or who aspire to be experts or professionals themselves will attempt to do things as they should be done. So to expand on what Sherry wrote, Locations should always be entered as they were at the time of the event, but you are free to do it differently if you so choose. -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] How do I print a list of every family B/M/D event in Connecticut?
Instead of tagging the list just check add results to current list. Bobby -Original Message- From: Jenny M Benson [mailto:ge...@cedarbank.me.uk] Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2012 6:28 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] How do I print a list of every family B/M/D event in Connecticut? On 04/02/2012 20:56, Dee Ziegler wrote: Brain freeze? I thought I knew how to do this...how do I print a list of every family B/M/D event in Connecticut, with name of ancestor involved? If you want a fourth criterion, Baptism Place contains Connecticut you will need to tag the first Search list with an unused tag number, then Search for Individual with Tag # tagged OR Individual with Baptisms Place contains Connecticut and print that list. -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] How do I print a list of every family B/M/D event in Connecticut?
On 05/02/2012 13:46, Bobby Johnson wrote: Instead of tagging the list just check add results to current list. Oh yes, of course! Thank you for reminding me about that provision. -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Event Locations
John, Firstly, Registration Districts are not necessarily named after a town, for example West Ward. The presentation of the the Registration Districts is accurate and using them correctly identifies exactly where the record can be found by/at the GRO. Prior to the 1911 census the Location was given at the top of ever census page, but for 1911 you need to look at that given by the householder on the bottom right of the image. I am very glad that FMP did not take your advice. Ron Ferguson www.fergys.co.uk/ -Original Message- From: John Clifford Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2012 1:19 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Event Locations The problem is less if you use Ancestry or other transcriptions instead of findmypast. Registration Districts often cross county boundaries but are named after a town in one of the counties. Findmypast seem to insist on entering the name of the county which contains the town which is part of the registration district name for all the locations within that RD, regardless of the fact that the actual County for the location concerned is correctly written on the original registration form. Whenever I have asked for a correction to the proper County name they have refused and then added we aim to provide you with an exact copy of the original census page When I have pointed out that this is a blatant lie I have received no reply. Not strictly related to Legacy I am afraid, but it is infuriating when one is trying to search for people born in a particular county and they don’t appear on a findmypast search (which is usually better than its competitors) not just as a result of human error but of deliberate policy. John Clifford -Original Message- From: Ron Ferguson [mailto:ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk] Sent: 04 February 2012 11:14 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Event Locations Tony, Which country's censuses are your referring to? For the English/Welsh censuses it may well appear that this is the case, whereas in fact it is not. The reason being that the locations are recorded in Registration Districts which are not the same as the locations, although the detail above the columns is. Ron Ferguson http://www.fergys.co.uk/ -Original Message- From: Tony Rolfe Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 5:41 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Event Locations On Fri, 03 Feb 2012 18:32:15 -0800 Bjørn K Nilssen I prefer that second school too. What I'm interested in is where that location is, and who shared it. Adding 10 or more differently spelled versions isn't really that useful IMO. It would be nice to have an AKA for locations too though, with date and text fields. What would be really nice would be to have date-linked short names for a given location. Something like Long Name: Sometown, someplace, Somecountry Short name: to 31 mar 1837: An original short name Short Name: to 1 Jan 1951: a different short name here Short Name: to: current short name for the place One problem I have is that Census enumerators described the same location differently on different censuses. It would be nice to record what they actually wrote, without having to make a different location entry for each census. Now the program would pick the short name according to the date for the display. Actually, it might be useful to have both short and long names varying by date with a Location name to identify it, but which isn't used in reports. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Page numbering problem on Multiple Line of Descent Report
Brian, I installed version 7.5.0.142, build 31 Jan 2012 and verified this problem still exists on my system it appears to still be a bug? Would you please give the LUG an update on the status of this problem? Thanks, Laird == On 5/16/2011 11:42 AM, Brian/Support wrote: The problem you reported has been tested and is confirmed. A report has been recorded in our problem tracking system so this can be fixed. Thank you for helping us make Legacy a better program for everyone. In fact I created two problem reports. One for the standalone report and one for the Publishing Centre. Brian Customer Support Millennia Corporation br...@legacyfamilytree.com http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com We are changing the world of genealogy! When replying to this message, please include all previous correspondence. Thanks. On 15/05/2011 8:47 PM, Ken wrote: Greetings, Although the following appears to be a minor problem, I thought I should bring it to the group's attention to see if I am overlooking a solution. I note it has not been listed in the archives. When producing a Multiple Line of Descendant Report within the Publishing Centre or as a stand alone, the Table of Contents are incorrectly numbered. The second page and those Table of Contents pages that follow are all automatically assigned a page number as though they were the last page of the whole report.In my case each page, 2 through 5, of the Table of Contents were assigned page number 312. The last page of my full report was 311. As the Table of Contents falls at the beginning of the report I was surprised to see it numbered as though it fell at the end but realized the problem was more than that when all the Table of Contents pages, 2 through 5, carried the same incorrect number. Have I done something wrong or is this a bug? If someone tries to duplicate this scenario please make sure your Table of Contents is two or more pages.I tried to see if this situation applied to any other type of report but my line doesn't go back far enough to have at least two pages of generations noted in the Table of Contents for the Ancestor or one name Descendant report. I thank you for reading this and look forward to some guidance with regards to the matter. Ken Marlow, Ottawa Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Event Locations
You can't even guarantee that the enumerator for the Census form had the administration county identified correctly. For UK 1891 Censuses you can find St.Pancras in either Middlesex or London, the latter being correct. Sometimes it is even left blank. I have found that the UK FreeBMD website gives good detail on the relationship between Parishes and Registration Districts. Alan -Original Message- From: Ron Ferguson [mailto:ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk] Sent: 05 February 2012 15:15 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Event Locations John, Firstly, Registration Districts are not necessarily named after a town, for example West Ward. The presentation of the the Registration Districts is accurate and using them correctly identifies exactly where the record can be found by/at the GRO. Prior to the 1911 census the Location was given at the top of ever census page, but for 1911 you need to look at that given by the householder on the bottom right of the image. I am very glad that FMP did not take your advice. Ron Ferguson www.fergys.co.uk/ -Original Message- From: John Clifford Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2012 1:19 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Event Locations The problem is less if you use Ancestry or other transcriptions instead of findmypast. Registration Districts often cross county boundaries but are named after a town in one of the counties. Findmypast seem to insist on entering the name of the county which contains the town which is part of the registration district name for all the locations within that RD, regardless of the fact that the actual County for the location concerned is correctly written on the original registration form. Whenever I have asked for a correction to the proper County name they have refused and then added we aim to provide you with an exact copy of the original census page When I have pointed out that this is a blatant lie I have received no reply. Not strictly related to Legacy I am afraid, but it is infuriating when one is trying to search for people born in a particular county and they don’t appear on a findmypast search (which is usually better than its competitors) not just as a result of human error but of deliberate policy. John Clifford -Original Message- From: Ron Ferguson [mailto:ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk] Sent: 04 February 2012 11:14 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Event Locations Tony, Which country's censuses are your referring to? For the English/Welsh censuses it may well appear that this is the case, whereas in fact it is not. The reason being that the locations are recorded in Registration Districts which are not the same as the locations, although the detail above the columns is. Ron Ferguson http://www.fergys.co.uk/ -Original Message- From: Tony Rolfe Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 5:41 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Event Locations On Fri, 03 Feb 2012 18:32:15 -0800 Bjørn K Nilssen I prefer that second school too. What I'm interested in is where that location is, and who shared it. Adding 10 or more differently spelled versions isn't really that useful IMO. It would be nice to have an AKA for locations too though, with date and text fields. What would be really nice would be to have date-linked short names for a given location. Something like Long Name: Sometown, someplace, Somecountry Short name: to 31 mar 1837: An original short name Short Name: to 1 Jan 1951: a different short name here Short Name: to: current short name for the place One problem I have is that Census enumerators described the same location differently on different censuses. It would be nice to record what they actually wrote, without having to make a different location entry for each census. Now the program would pick the short name according to the date for the display. Actually, it might be useful to have both short and long names varying by date with a Location name to identify it, but which isn't used in reports. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online
Re: [LegacyUG] Page numbering problem on Multiple Line of Descent Report
On 2012/02/05 19:19, Laird wrote: I installed version 7.5.0.142, build 31 Jan 2012 and verified this problem still exists on my system it appears to still be a bug? Would you please give the LUG an update on the status of this problem? You could, of course, have had a look for yourself on the website at what had been fixed in the new release, and avoided this unnecessary thread. -- Regards, Mike Fry Johannesburg Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Page numbering problem on Multiple Line of Descent Report
Sorry Mike, I misunderstood your statement. I did look at the bug fixes on the web site for this version release and these are the only ones that might be related to printing reports: *Event Report* - When using List format, the event name is now always included. *Publishing Center* - Family Group Records were inserting two entries into the Table of Contents instead of only one. Fixed. As a side note I had reported a different bug with the Publishing Center and I got a personal email directly from Legacy saying it was fixed in the next release, which turned out to be 7.5.0.142. My reported bug fix was also not listed in the Fixed Items list. On 2/5/2012 11:58 AM, Mike Fry wrote: On 2012/02/05 19:19, Laird wrote: I installed version 7.5.0.142, build 31 Jan 2012 and verified this problem still exists on my system it appears to still be a bug? Would you please give the LUG an update on the status of this problem? You could, of course, have had a look for yourself on the website at what had been fixed in the new release, and avoided this unnecessary thread. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Page numbering problem on Multiple Line of Descent Report
OK Mike, I did not file the original bug report. Please tell me how to do this. Laird On 2/5/2012 11:58 AM, Mike Fry wrote: On 2012/02/05 19:19, Laird wrote: I installed version 7.5.0.142, build 31 Jan 2012 and verified this problem still exists on my system it appears to still be a bug? Would you please give the LUG an update on the status of this problem? You could, of course, have had a look for yourself on the website at what had been fixed in the new release, and avoided this unnecessary thread. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Event Locations
By using the lat/long converter. Anyway, for many locations, neither Bing nor Google has them. I always use another mapping program to find them. That way is especially useful because I can find the lat/long or a house, cemetery plot, etc. CE From: ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Event Locations Date: Sun, 5 Feb 2012 12:57:36 + And the two have a different way of expressing them - so which would be used? Ron Ferguson http://www.fergys.co.uk/ -Original Message- From: Mike Fry Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2012 8:47 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Event Locations On 2012/02/05 04:48, RICHARD SCHULTHIES wrote: A possible solution, would be to have placenames using lat/long whjch could collect as many 'spelling' changes, including multiple states for an early place (KY/WV/VA). With the inherent inaccuracies of both Bing and Google, that's not really feasible. -- Regards, Mike Fry Johannesburg Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Page numbering problem on Multiple Line of Descent Report
Keep in mind that NOT EVERYTHING that gets fixed is itemized in the Release Notes. On Sun, 05 Feb 2012 12:21:22 -0600, Laird lftu...@bayleenet.net wrote: OK Mike, I did not file the original bug report. Please tell me how to do this. Laird On 2/5/2012 11:58 AM, Mike Fry wrote: On 2012/02/05 19:19, Laird wrote: I installed version 7.5.0.142, build 31 Jan 2012 and verified this problem still exists on my system it appears to still be a bug? Would you please give the LUG an update on the status of this problem? You could, of course, have had a look for yourself on the website at what had been fixed in the new release, and avoided this unnecessary thread. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Event Locations
Ron, I have noticed before that you don't seem to read messages very carefully before replying. I did not say that all Registration Districts are named after a town and I did not say that the presentation of Registration Districts is inaccurate. I did say that the presentation of counties is deliberately inaccurate in the transcription and hence in the Household View, the Indexing and the Search facility as well. For instance, if you know that a person or family lived in Northamptonshire, you will never find them by searching in the Findmypast census transcriptions if they happen to live in the Northamptonshire part of Banbury RD because Findmypast knows that Banbury (the town) is in Oxfordshire and changes Northamptonshire on the census page image to Oxfordshire. Take the Mold family. If you do an exact search in the 1881 census for people living in Northamptonshire with surname Mold, Ancestry will give you 126 individuals but Findmypast will give you only 30. You might also have deduced that when I alleged that Findmypast ignore the fact that the actual County for the location concerned is correctly written on the original registration form this means that I do know where to find an address on a census page. In the Findmypast 1911 census images you can also click on an Address link to see the accompanying form which the enumerator has filled out; it is sometimes illuminating to compare the two versions of the address. John Clifford -Original Message- From: Ron Ferguson [mailto:ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk] Sent: 05 February 2012 15:15 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Event Locations John, Firstly, Registration Districts are not necessarily named after a town, for example West Ward. The presentation of the the Registration Districts is accurate and using them correctly identifies exactly where the record can be found by/at the GRO. Prior to the 1911 census the Location was given at the top of ever census page, but for 1911 you need to look at that given by the householder on the bottom right of the image. I am very glad that FMP did not take your advice. Ron Ferguson www.fergys.co.uk/ -Original Message- From: John Clifford Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2012 1:19 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Event Locations The problem is less if you use Ancestry or other transcriptions instead of findmypast. Registration Districts often cross county boundaries but are named after a town in one of the counties. Findmypast seem to insist on entering the name of the county which contains the town which is part of the registration district name for all the locations within that RD, regardless of the fact that the actual County for the location concerned is correctly written on the original registration form. Whenever I have asked for a correction to the proper County name they have refused and then added we aim to provide you with an exact copy of the original census page When I have pointed out that this is a blatant lie I have received no reply. Not strictly related to Legacy I am afraid, but it is infuriating when one is trying to search for people born in a particular county and they don’t appear on a findmypast search (which is usually better than its competitors) not just as a result of human error but of deliberate policy. John Clifford -Original Message- From: Ron Ferguson [mailto:ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk] Sent: 04 February 2012 11:14 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Event Locations Tony, Which country's censuses are your referring to? For the English/Welsh censuses it may well appear that this is the case, whereas in fact it is not. The reason being that the locations are recorded in Registration Districts which are not the same as the locations, although the detail above the columns is. Ron Ferguson http://www.fergys.co.uk/ -Original Message- From: Tony Rolfe Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 5:41 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Event Locations On Fri, 03 Feb 2012 18:32:15 -0800 Bjørn K Nilssen I prefer that second school too. What I'm interested in is where that location is, and who shared it. Adding 10 or more differently spelled versions isn't really that useful IMO. It would be nice to have an AKA for locations too though, with date and text fields. What would be really nice would be to have date-linked short names for a given location. Something like Long Name: Sometown, someplace, Somecountry Short name: to 31 mar 1837: An original short name Short Name: to 1 Jan 1951: a different short name here Short Name: to: current short name for the place One problem I have is that Census enumerators described the same location differently on different censuses. It would be nice to record what they actually wrote, without having to make a different location entry for each census. Now the
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Thanks Jenny, I understand that is where the rules have come from. But I think the situation has changed with the arrival of the Internet and I would guess that most people using Legacy are now amateurs working on their own family trees who do not particularly want to be taken seriously by experts but to do a good job for their families and descendants. This may need a different set of standards as to how best to present information and Legacy support staff may need to alter their advice to Locations should always be entered in the form that will be most informative to the expected viewer of your family tree but you are free to use the names as they were at the time of the event for antiquarian or professional purposes. John Clifford -Original Message- From: Jenny M Benson [mailto:ge...@cedarbank.me.uk] Sent: 05 February 2012 14:07 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Event Locations On 05/02/2012 12:50, John Clifford wrote: Where does the should come from? Genealogy, like so many other activities, has acquired various rules for best practice which have been developed by expert and professional users over the years so that there is some sort of standardization and agreement about how best to present information. That doesn't mean to say that everyone has to follow such rules slavishly if they choose not to do so. But those who want to be taken seriously by experts and professionals, or who aspire to be experts or professionals themselves will attempt to do things as they should be done. So to expand on what Sherry wrote, Locations should always be entered as they were at the time of the event, but you are free to do it differently if you so choose. -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
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You should record the location as it was at the time of the event unless you keep your research completely to yourself and never share it with anyone. If you share the info in any way, shape or form, you really should conform to how everyone else does it or it will only cause confusion :) :) :) Michele Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
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The beauty of flexible programmes like Legacy enables multiple data entry preferences to suit a wide range of users. The trick is knowing the end use of the data from the beginning. It would also help if our forebears lived and died in places that fitted modern naming conventions, wars never happened and politicians refrained from tinkering with boundaries and place names. Sent from my iPod Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
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Sounds like the aka location idea would be great, but only if it could be kept separate and not lumped in with the master locations list, unless by selection perhaps. Jerry John Clifford leg...@johnclifford.me.uk wrote: Where does the should come from? I have gradually moved to using the latest version of place names because I am producing a family tree for family members and other people who are not expert genealogists. I want to make the tree as meaningful and easy to understand as possible. In particular: 1. seeing the current name for a location gives the average user a good idea of where the event took place, whereas using obsolete spelling, county name, or (especially) country name will be misleading or meaningless 2. using the Bing geo-coding tool in Legacy is unnecessarily arduous if you use old names 3. when geo-codes are translated back onto a map, for instance in Google on TNG, the user will only see modern names and may be puzzled if the event name is different. 4. for fellow geeks, the old name(s) can be put in the source text/detail and will still be documented. Incidentally the UK Registration Districts names change successively in some areas, like country names. I was reading recently about a place in Central Europe that was in three different countries on the same day, in 1939 I think. Having said all that an aka facility in Legacy for Location would be very useful and I will add a request. John Clifford -Original Message- From: Sherry/Support [mailto:she...@legacyfamilytree.com] Sent: 03 February 2012 21:09 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Event Locations Locations should always be entered as they were at the time of the event. You can add notes about changes in notes for the location in the Master Location List or in the notes for the event Location Notes can be included in the Location Index in a report. I's always interesting to read of how much a town has moved around. In the US we just see county or state boundaries change around a town not whole countries, thankfully! Sincerely, Sherry Technical Support Legacy Family Tree On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 12:46 PM, Ray Rhoads rhodo...@bellsouth.net wrote: This may not be the right place to ask this question but here go's anyway. When entering a place name for an event, (birth, death etc.) that took place in a foreign country should you use present day locations or the location at the time of the event? My reason for asking is that my mothers family comes from an town in present day Germany. However they came to this country before there was a Germany. Although the events always occurred in the same town that town at times was part of different Countries or Kingdoms. I have cases where people were born in Bavaria, married France and died in Prussia and in between lived in another kingdom but never left the town. Your thoughts would be appreciated Ray Rhoads Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
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På Sun, 05 Feb 2012 20:30:27 +0100, skrev cranberryf...@cobridge.tv: You should record the location as it was at the time of the event unless you keep your research completely to yourself and never share it with anyone. If you share the info in any way, shape or form, you really should conform to how everyone else does it or it will only cause confusion :) :) :) If only it was that simple.. In my mothers family a lot of ancestors came from the same county (kommune), which in 1964 merged with another county. Before 1964 it was written Grindum, Grinnum, Grinnums, Grinnem, Grindem, Grindems, Grindheim, Bjelland og Grindum, Bj. pr.gj. - Grinnums and so on in many more variations. And these variations were not really chronoligally dependent, but were written in several variations the same year, depending on who was writing. Say you have in a census, a childs birth place is written as Grindum, and in the church book from the same year the place is called Grinnem, what should you write? If you save the source text you'll have the place name as written saved anyway, but in the birthplace field I think it is much better to use a standardized spelling. As John also mentioned, Internet has made a difference, not to mention computers. For searching, reports etc it is very useful to have a uniform spelling in the location field, and as long as the original spelling is stored (preferably in an AKA field) what's wrong with that? I usually write Grindheim, Audnedal (which is the name of the new merged kommune/county), Vest-Agder (fylke/state?). -- Bjørn K Nilssen - b...@bknilssen.no - 3D and panoramas Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
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Yes, Michele, but you don't have to mess up your master location list to do that. You can accomplish the same thing with the note fields adjacent to location. Sorry, but I don't think I could ever be convinced to put seven different location names for the exact same spot on the map when the note field will work for that. It is time for the gedcom standard to be updated to match computer technology. Both the aka location and latititde/longitude ideas seem worthy of consideration. Thanks for listening. Jerry in Michigan cranberryf...@cobridge.tv wrote: You should record the location as it was at the time of the event unless you keep your research completely to yourself and never share it with anyone. If you share the info in any way, shape or form, you really should conform to how everyone else does it or it will only cause confusion :) :) :) Michele Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
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John, The only person who never misunderstands or never makes a mistake is the one who usually says nothing, or has tunnel vision. When I do I will admit it, but not in this case. However, I think that we are talking at cross purposes. I believe that what you call the Location is what I would call the Registration District. The search in FMP is based on the latter. I usually find it best when looking for returns near a boundary not to enter a county ie. leave it set to any. Searching for Ferguson in Middlesbrough, Yorkshire, will not be found in 1851 by searching for that location, because the Registration District is Stockton, County Durham. Before searching any county I always check the Registration Districts. I am not too happy with this way of searching, myself, although it does have advantages for those of us who carry out One-Name Studies, but my point is that on FMP's page for a family result it gives the Registration details, the Location has to be obtained from the Image - I usually do this with Ancestry as well btw. , because I do not wish to reply on somebody else's interpretation, which one is advised to do anyhow. Ron Ferguson http://www.fergys.co.uk Ron Ferguson http://www.fergys.co.uk. -Original Message- From: John Clifford Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2012 7:01 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Event Locations Ron, I have noticed before that you don't seem to read messages very carefully before replying. I did not say that all Registration Districts are named after a town and I did not say that the presentation of Registration Districts is inaccurate. I did say that the presentation of counties is deliberately inaccurate in the transcription and hence in the Household View, the Indexing and the Search facility as well. For instance, if you know that a person or family lived in Northamptonshire, you will never find them by searching in the Findmypast census transcriptions if they happen to live in the Northamptonshire part of Banbury RD because Findmypast knows that Banbury (the town) is in Oxfordshire and changes Northamptonshire on the census page image to Oxfordshire. Take the Mold family. If you do an exact search in the 1881 census for people living in Northamptonshire with surname Mold, Ancestry will give you 126 individuals but Findmypast will give you only 30. You might also have deduced that when I alleged that Findmypast ignore the fact that the actual County for the location concerned is correctly written on the original registration form this means that I do know where to find an address on a census page. In the Findmypast 1911 census images you can also click on an Address link to see the accompanying form which the enumerator has filled out; it is sometimes illuminating to compare the two versions of the address. John Clifford -Original Message- From: Ron Ferguson [mailto:ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk] Sent: 05 February 2012 15:15 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Event Locations John, Firstly, Registration Districts are not necessarily named after a town, for example West Ward. The presentation of the the Registration Districts is accurate and using them correctly identifies exactly where the record can be found by/at the GRO. Prior to the 1911 census the Location was given at the top of ever census page, but for 1911 you need to look at that given by the householder on the bottom right of the image. I am very glad that FMP did not take your advice. Ron Ferguson www.fergys.co.uk/ -Original Message- From: John Clifford Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2012 1:19 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Event Locations The problem is less if you use Ancestry or other transcriptions instead of findmypast. Registration Districts often cross county boundaries but are named after a town in one of the counties. Findmypast seem to insist on entering the name of the county which contains the town which is part of the registration district name for all the locations within that RD, regardless of the fact that the actual County for the location concerned is correctly written on the original registration form. Whenever I have asked for a correction to the proper County name they have refused and then added we aim to provide you with an exact copy of the original census page When I have pointed out that this is a blatant lie I have received no reply. Not strictly related to Legacy I am afraid, but it is infuriating when one is trying to search for people born in a particular county and they don’t appear on a findmypast search (which is usually better than its competitors) not just as a result of human error but of deliberate policy. John Clifford -Original Message- From: Ron Ferguson [mailto:ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk] Sent: 04 February 2012 11:14 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Event Locations Tony, Which country's censuses
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On 2012/02/05 19:38, Alan Pereira wrote: I have found that the UK FreeBMD website gives good detail on the relationship between Parishes and Registration Districts. If you examine the source of that information, you will find that it comes courtesy of the GENUKI site, not from FreeBMD directly :-) After all, why keep a dog and bark yourself? -- Regards, Mike Fry Johannesburg Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
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On 2/5/2012 5:50 AM, John Clifford wrote: Where does the should come from? I have gradually moved to using the latest version of place names because I am producing a family tree for family members and other people who are not expert genealogists. I want to make the tree as meaningful and easy to understand as possible. In particular: 1. seeing the current name for a location gives the average user a good idea of where the event took place, whereas using obsolete spelling, county name, or (especially) country name will be misleading or meaningless Akron, Michigan in 1800 = Wayne County Akron, Michigan in 1822 = Sanilac County Akron, Michigan in 1850 = Tuscola County Geneva, Oregon in 1843 = Champoeg County Geneva, Oregon in 1850 = Lyne County Geneva, Oregon in 1900 = Crook County Geneva, Oregon in 1975 = Jefferson County If Great Grandpa lived in Geneva Champoeg County Oregon in 1843, then one was to use the master location list, then looks at Geneva Oregon, it will show Jefferson as the County. What County did good ol Great Grandpa live in ? 2. using the Bing geo-coding tool in Legacy is unnecessarily arduous if you use old names 3. when geo-codes are translated back onto a map, for instance in Google on TNG, the user will only see modern names and may be puzzled if the event name is different. 4. for fellow geeks, the old name(s) can be put in the source text/detail and will still be documented. I guess I am a geek. I use when the event took place historically. I can't agree more with what 'Jenny Benson' wrote earlier. I would quote it, but one can certainly read it again. 7:07am. Same as Sherry. She also posted that she uses the time of the event. Have a good day, Tim Rosenlof Incidentally the UK Registration Districts names change successively in some areas, like country names. I was reading recently about a place in Central Europe that was in three different countries on the same day, in 1939 I think. Having said all that an aka facility in Legacy for Location would be very useful and I will add a request. John Clifford -Original Message- From: Sherry/Support [mailto:she...@legacyfamilytree.com] Sent: 03 February 2012 21:09 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Event Locations Locations should always be entered as they were at the time of the event. You can add notes about changes in notes for the location in the Master Location List or in the notes for the event Location Notes can be included in the Location Index in a report. I's always interesting to read of how much a town has moved around. In the US we just see county or state boundaries change around a town not whole countries, thankfully! Sincerely, Sherry Technical Support Legacy Family Tree On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 12:46 PM, Ray Rhoadsrhodo...@bellsouth.net wrote: This may not be the right place to ask this question but here go's anyway. When entering a place name for an event, (birth, death etc.) that took place in a foreign country should you use present day locations or the location at the time of the event? My reason for asking is that my mothers family comes from an town in present day Germany. However they came to this country before there was a Germany. Although the events always occurred in the same town that town at times was part of different Countries or Kingdoms. I have cases where people were born in Bavaria, married France and died in Prussia and in between lived in another kingdom but never left the town. Your thoughts would be appreciated Ray Rhoads Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
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Mike, I go to GENUKI direct and I agree that it is an excellent resource. As far as I know it is the only site for *all* the Registration Districts, but the quality does seem to vary from county to county. It should also be remembered that these districts vary over time, and for 1851 Family Search is excellent. See: http://maps.familysearch.org/ Ron Ferguson http://www.fergys.co.uk/ -Original Message- From: Mike Fry Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2012 9:47 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Event Locations On 2012/02/05 19:38, Alan Pereira wrote: I have found that the UK FreeBMD website gives good detail on the relationship between Parishes and Registration Districts. If you examine the source of that information, you will find that it comes courtesy of the GENUKI site, not from FreeBMD directly :-) After all, why keep a dog and bark yourself? -- Regards, Mike Fry Johannesburg Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
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A colour in the event names means that a source has been linked to that item. You can change the colour in Options Customize Colours. Set the colour for Contents to change the colour what shows when a source is linked. Brian Customer Support Millennia Corporation br...@legacyfamilytree.com http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com We are changing the world of genealogy! When replying to this message, please include all previous correspondence. Thanks. On 05/02/2012 2:26 PM, Lloyd Hite wrote: Hello List, I just downloaded and installed version 7.0.142 and I noticed that in the Individual Information Screen that some Death and Burial names are Red. What does that signify and can I change it? Lloyd Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Event Locations
John, I do not bother with rants!!! You are simply haven't got it. Ron Ferguson http://www.fergys.co.uk/ -Original Message- From: John Clifford Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2012 10:49 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Event Locations Ron, not only do you not read messages carefully, you don’t seem to look at the findmypast screens which you are pontificating about. 1. You say that the findmypast search is based on the Registration District but on the Basic search screen you can search by birth place, place of residence and COUNTY but NOT by registration district. It is only the Advanced search screen (which I rarely use, because I have not found it of much help) that you can also search by RD, civil parish, etc (etc depending on the census year). Incidentally the search of a database is based on one or more indexes. 2. The search list then takes you to the Household Transcription - which shows some of the reference numbers (but not Enumeration District or Schedule number unfortunately except for 1911), Registration District, Civil Parish, Address and COUNTY. Your reference to searching for Ferguson in Middlesbrough, Yorkshire in the 1851 census exactly proves my point - none found by Findmypast and 5 by Ancestry. Did you not try the Ancestry search before responding? By location I do not mean RD, I mean place, as defined (today) by geo-code. John -Original Message- From: Ron Ferguson [mailto:ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk] Sent: 05 February 2012 21:20 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Event Locations John, The only person who never misunderstands or never makes a mistake is the one who usually says nothing, or has tunnel vision. When I do I will admit it, but not in this case. However, I think that we are talking at cross purposes. I believe that what you call the Location is what I would call the Registration District. The search in FMP is based on the latter. I usually find it best when looking for returns near a boundary not to enter a county ie. leave it set to any. Searching for Ferguson in Middlesbrough, Yorkshire, will not be found in 1851 by searching for that location, because the Registration District is Stockton, County Durham. Before searching any county I always check the Registration Districts. I am not too happy with this way of searching, myself, although it does have advantages for those of us who carry out One-Name Studies, but my point is that on FMP's page for a family result it gives the Registration details, the Location has to be obtained from the Image - I usually do this with Ancestry as well btw. , because I do not wish to reply on somebody else's interpretation, which one is advised to do anyhow. Ron Ferguson http://www.fergys.co.uk Ron Ferguson http://www.fergys.co.uk. -Original Message- From: John Clifford Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2012 7:01 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Event Locations Ron, I have noticed before that you don't seem to read messages very carefully before replying. I did not say that all Registration Districts are named after a town and I did not say that the presentation of Registration Districts is inaccurate. I did say that the presentation of counties is deliberately inaccurate in the transcription and hence in the Household View, the Indexing and the Search facility as well. For instance, if you know that a person or family lived in Northamptonshire, you will never find them by searching in the Findmypast census transcriptions if they happen to live in the Northamptonshire part of Banbury RD because Findmypast knows that Banbury (the town) is in Oxfordshire and changes Northamptonshire on the census page image to Oxfordshire. Take the Mold family. If you do an exact search in the 1881 census for people living in Northamptonshire with surname Mold, Ancestry will give you 126 individuals but Findmypast will give you only 30. You might also have deduced that when I alleged that Findmypast ignore the fact that the actual County for the location concerned is correctly written on the original registration form this means that I do know where to find an address on a census page. In the Findmypast 1911 census images you can also click on an Address link to see the accompanying form which the enumerator has filled out; it is sometimes illuminating to compare the two versions of the address. John Clifford -Original Message- From: Ron Ferguson [mailto:ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk] Sent: 05 February 2012 15:15 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Event Locations John, Firstly, Registration Districts are not necessarily named after a town, for example West Ward. The presentation of the the Registration Districts is accurate and using them correctly identifies exactly where the record can be found by/at the GRO. Prior to the 1911 census the Location was given at the top of ever census page, but for
[LegacyUG] Pictures - how to handle ones with more than one person in the photo
I'm in the process of attaching my photos to the records in Legacy. How do others handle it when there are more than one person in fthe photo? Do you attach the photo to each person that is in it? How do you name the photo? I have been using the MRIN system for naming source files. I thought I would do that for images as well but ran into a problem when there are multiple families in the photo. Thank you Daphne Eze Researching Berrow, Weaving, Weeks, Blake, Eastman, Wilson, English, Boles - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2112/4790 - Release Date: 02/05/12 Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Pictures - how to handle ones with more than one person in the photo
On 05/02/2012 23:21, Daphne Eze wrote: I'm in the process of attaching my photos to the records in Legacy. How do others handle it when there are more than one person in fthe photo? Do you attach the photo to each person that is in it? How do you name the photo? Whenever possible I crop the photo to show just the individual I want and save that picture to attach to the Individual. I attach group photos to Events where it is appropriate, such as a picture of a Wedding or a special family occasion. I don't have any particular scheme for naming photos, except that I use the RINs along with people's names. -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Pictures - how to handle ones with more than one person in the photo
I always use events in the family marriages assuming the picture is of a family and children or a family reunion and attach a picture to a single event. You can have several family reunion events and one picture for each event for the same family reunion. In reports, the attached event picture can be printed. I use lots of events for individuals and families. You can also print scrapbooks for individuals when you can have lots of pictures for each individual. Normally, only one picture can be printed for an individual. Hope that helps! Sent from my iPad Leon Chapman chap...@gmail.com On Feb 5, 2012, at 4:21 PM, Daphne Eze d...@shaw.ca wrote: I'm in the process of attaching my photos to the records in Legacy. How do others handle it when there are more than one person in fthe photo? Do you attach the photo to each person that is in it? How do you name the photo? I have been using the MRIN system for naming source files. I thought I would do that for images as well but ran into a problem when there are multiple families in the photo. Thank you Daphne Eze Researching Berrow, Weaving, Weeks, Blake, Eastman, Wilson, English, Boles - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2112/4790 - Release Date: 02/05/12 Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Event Locations
This is a semi-problem, but each of us must choose if we care, and then which to use. I may say what I choose, but not force the issue.Rich From: Ron Ferguson ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Event Locations To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Date: Sunday, February 5, 2012, 4:57 AM And the two have a different way of expressing them - so which would be used? Ron Ferguson http://www.fergys.co.uk/ -Original Message- From: Mike Fry Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2012 8:47 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Event Locations On 2012/02/05 04:48, RICHARD SCHULTHIES wrote: A possible solution, would be to have placenames using lat/long whjch could collect as many 'spelling' changes, including multiple states for an early place (KY/WV/VA). With the inherent inaccuracies of both Bing and Google, that's not really feasible. -- Regards, Mike Fry Johannesburg Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Pictures - how to handle ones with more than one person in the photo
For the 'attached' photo I use either a single shot or crop a group one. This is the one to view on reports. The other photos go in other slots on any album.Rich in LA CA --- On Sun, 2/5/12, Daphne Eze d...@shaw.ca wrote: From: Daphne Eze d...@shaw.ca Subject: [LegacyUG] Pictures - how to handle ones with more than one person in the photo To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Date: Sunday, February 5, 2012, 3:21 PM I'm in the process of attaching my photos to the records in Legacy. How do others handle it when there are more than one person in fthe photo? Do you attach the photo to each person that is in it? How do you name the photo? I have been using the MRIN system for naming source files. I thought I would do that for images as well but ran into a problem when there are multiple families in the photo. Thank you Daphne Eze Researching Berrow, Weaving, Weeks, Blake, Eastman, Wilson, English, Boles - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2112/4790 - Release Date: 02/05/12 Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Pictures - how to handle ones with more than one person in the photo
The competing application “Family Historian” has a great feature whereby you can link to people’s faces in a group photo. You select the group photo, draw a box around the person of interest and then select the person in your database to link it to. So when you view that person you see the cropped image but if you double clicked on it you would see the original image. This means you don’t have to create a bunch of cropped images if you had a family photo for example. I think it also had the ability to pop up a little name box when you hovered the mouse over each person in the group photo. I did submit a suggestion to have this function in Legacy a few years ago but they weren’t interested L Perhaps if more people make this suggestion it might get some traction. Gavin... Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Pictures - how to handle ones with more than one person in the photo
Daphne, I am with Jenny on this one. Using photo editing software, I also crop the photo to show one person and use the name and RIN of the person as the filename. I find the following works for books in the Publishing Center: I crop the person from the group photo and resize it to 1.5 tall x 1.5 wide @ 300 pixels per inch. I then merge a youth photo on the left side and an adult (later in life) on the right side which makes it 1.5 tall x 3 wide. When I only have one photo I center it as 1.5 x 1.5 within the 3 width with white space on both sides. In the Publishing Center: Report Options Pictures Picture Options. I select Custom Picture area: Width [3] Inches, Picture Reduction Width is set to Original size. As Leon said you can only print a single photo in book reports. You could extend the above concept to include more than two photos of a person by merging several photos into one. What you must keep in mind is the Report options photo size option is GLOBAL. That is why I put a single photo into the center of 1.5 x 3. If you used a single photo as 1.5 x 1.5 it would print as 3 x 3 using Custom Picture area: Width [3] Inches in my example above. Laird = On 2/5/2012 6:23 PM, Jenny M Benson wrote: On 05/02/2012 23:21, Daphne Eze wrote: I'm in the process of attaching my photos to the records in Legacy. How do others handle it when there are more than one person in fthe photo? Do you attach the photo to each person that is in it? How do you name the photo? Whenever possible I crop the photo to show just the individual I want and save that picture to attach to the Individual. I attach group photos to Events where it is appropriate, such as a picture of a Wedding or a special family occasion. I don't have any particular scheme for naming photos, except that I use the RINs along with people's names. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Pictures - how to handle ones with more than one person in the photo
Laird, I too use photo editing but thanks for the tip about merging pictures. I hadn't thought of that and it certainly solves some problems.I've recently been trying out Picasa in place of my other photo editing software and really like the idea they have of automatically creating a file of facial images from every image saved. It's a great help identifying unknown faces esp in groups. Not 100% accurate but certainly points me in the right direction. Amazing too how often with a baby/child face it suggestions an older adult I have already identified. If the baby/child doesn't already have their adult image identified it's interesting the suggestions Picasa makes. Shows how characteristics are passed down even if I can't always see it. I have to spend time entering names of faces I know but done once it quickly picks up recognising most of them in later images. Other software probably does the same now but my other editing software was older versions that didn't have it. Carol From: lftu...@bayleenet.net To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Pictures - how to handle ones with more than one person in the photo Date: Sun, 5 Feb 2012 20:41:52 -0600 Daphne, I am with Jenny on this one. Using photo editing software, I also crop the photo to show one person and use the name and RIN of the person as the filename. I find the following works for books in the Publishing Center: I crop the person from the group photo and resize it to 1.5 tall x 1.5 wide @ 300 pixels per inch. I then merge a youth photo on the left side and an adult (later in life) on the right side which makes it 1.5 tall x 3 wide. When I only have one photo I center it as 1.5 x 1.5 within the 3 width with white space on both sides. In the Publishing Center: Report Options Pictures Picture Options. I select Custom Picture area: Width [3] Inches, Picture Reduction Width is set to Original size. As Leon said you can only print a single photo in book reports. You could extend the above concept to include more than two photos of a person by merging several photos into one. What you must keep in mind is the Report options photo size option is GLOBAL. That is why I put a single photo into the center of 1.5 x 3. If you used a single photo as 1.5 x 1.5 it would print as 3 x 3 using Custom Picture area: Width [3] Inches in my example above. Laird = On 2/5/2012 6:23 PM, Jenny M Benson wrote: On 05/02/2012 23:21, Daphne Eze wrote: I'm in the process of attaching my photos to the records in Legacy. How do others handle it when there are more than one person in fthe photo? Do you attach the photo to each person that is in it? How do you name the photo? Whenever possible I crop the photo to show just the individual I want and save that picture to attach to the Individual. I attach group photos to Events where it is appropriate, such as a picture of a Wedding or a special family occasion. I don't have any particular scheme for naming photos, except that I use the RINs along with people's names. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp