RE: [LegacyUG] Alt Name vs AKA

2012-09-26 Thread Ron Taylor
The main advantage to using AKA is that those names by option can appear in the 
Names List and then an individual can be located using any of the alias names 
since they are sorted and indexed with the main names.  Info in the event 
records can be searched but not in the same way as the Names List.  An 
alternate name as an event might have more detailed documentation than the 
alias name.  You may have a case for using both.Ron Taylor


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Re: [LegacyUG] Alt Name vs AKA

2012-09-26 Thread Mike Fry
On 2012/09/26 13:18, Barbara wrote:

 Should I be using both entries for Alt Name and AKA?  It seems like a
 duplication, but I'm sure there is justification for using both or one of 
 them.
 I have a name that has 10 different spellings for a randfather's given 
 name
 and 3 different spellings for his surname.  It is creating a nightmare.

You must have created the Alt Name event definition yourself! It does not
appear in the Master Event Definition List in a vanilla Legacy installation.

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Mike Fry
Johannesburg (g)



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Re: [LegacyUG] Alt Name vs AKA

2012-09-26 Thread Tim Rosenlof
On 9/26/2012 5:18 AM, Barbara wrote:
 Should I be using both entries for Alt Name and AKA?  It seems like
 a duplication, but I'm sure there is justification for using both or one
 of them.  I have a name that has 10 different spellings for a
 randfather's given name and 3 different spellings for his surname.
 It is creating a nightmare.

I have mine in a event with alt.name, which I wish Legacy would call it
'fact' instead of 'event'. However, I just use Legacy for a record
management software and don't do any reports.

--
Tim Rosenlof
Utah, USA
Swedish Research



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Re: [LegacyUG] Alt Name vs AKA

2012-09-26 Thread Heather Stovold
Hm, I have the Alt Name event too, and I don't think I created it

I use Alt Name for misspellings and variations of the name - I create one
each time I see one in the source.  I use AKA for other names that are
different, for the same person.  For instance, I have someone that changed
his name 3 times... I use AKA for that.

On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 9:19 AM, Mike Fry emjay...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 2012/09/26 13:18, Barbara wrote:

  Should I be using both entries for Alt Name and AKA?  It seems like a
  duplication, but I'm sure there is justification for using both or one
 of them.
  I have a name that has 10 different spellings for a randfather's
 given name
  and 3 different spellings for his surname.  It is creating a nightmare.

 You must have created the Alt Name event definition yourself! It does not





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Re: [LegacyUG] Alt Name vs AKA

2012-09-26 Thread Jane Colquhoun
That seems a logical distinction to make - I'd go along with this.

Jane





 From: Heather Stovold hstov...@gmail.com
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Sent: Wednesday, 26 September 2012, 16:27
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Alt Name vs AKA


Hm, I have the Alt Name event too, and I don't think I created it

I use Alt Name for misspellings and variations of the name - I create one each 
time I see one in the source.  I use AKA for other names that are different, 
for the same person.  For instance, I have someone that changed his name 3 
times... I use AKA for that.


On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 9:19 AM, Mike Fry emjay...@gmail.com wrote:

On 2012/09/26 13:18, Barbara wrote:

 Should I be using both entries for Alt Name and AKA?  It seems like a
 duplication, but I'm sure there is justification for using both or one of 
 them.
 I have a name that has 10 different spellings for a randfather's given 
 name
 and 3 different spellings for his surname.  It is creating a nightmare.

You must have created the Alt Name event definition yourself! It does not



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Re: [LegacyUG] Where is the best place to post obituary in Legacy?

2012-09-26 Thread Bruce Jones
Or you could put the obituary in BOTH the Obituary Event Notes AND in the
source detail text.
I have been doing that with my census events as I'm not sure which way I
will want the reports in the future (got this idea from Geoff).
Then I have a different event sentence depending on if I have anything in
the Description field.  If I do, I don't include Notes in my sentence.  If
I don't have anything in the Description field, I do include the Notes in
my sentence.
What I put in the description field is simply age 16 (whatever age is in
the notes).
So if I want the notes to print, I just delete the description.
This may or may not work for you for Obituaries.
Just my thoughts.


On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 8:31 PM, CE WOOD wood...@msn.com wrote:

  You can use the Obituary Event and put the whole obituary in the notes
 section of the event.

 Problem with that is, it may take up lots of space in your report if you
 include Events.  You can use the Obituary Event without putting it in the
 notes section of the event and then include the whole obituary in the
 source detail text for that event.  Your choice.


 CE

 --
 From: dasm...@new.rr.com
 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Subject: [LegacyUG] Where is the best place to post obituary in Legacy? -
 Also comments regarding locations in Census Reports
 Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2012 18:42:58 -0500

  *OBITUARY AND SIMILAR TEXT*

 I am wondering where users find is the best place to post obituaries and
 similar text information in an individuals record in Legacy.



 I have been putting it in the source citation – detail – text area.  But,
 I am beginning to think this may not be the best place when it comes to
 printing reports.  I’m not sure I like it printing in the source part of
 the report, would probably prefer it in the narrative.



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Re: [LegacyUG] Alt Name vs AKA

2012-09-26 Thread Ron Taylor
I believe that Alt. Name is created by LegacyFS when you pull an alternate 
name into your Legacy file from nFS.  Same is true of Alt. Birth, Alt. 
Death, Alt. Burial.  There may be a few others.  The important thing to 
realize is that those event definition names are hard-coded in LegacyFS.  If 
you already have an Alt Birth definition (note the missing period), when you 
pull an alternate birth from LegacyFS, it will not use your Alt Birth but 
will insert the new Alt. Birth into the event definitions table.  If you 
combine those, you would be wise to combine Alt Birth into Alt. Birth or 
else that LegacyFS name will show up again next time you pull that data from 
nFS.  The same is true of the other Alt. names created by the LegacyFS 
interface.Ron Taylor


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Re: [LegacyUG] Alt Name vs AKA

2012-09-26 Thread Paula Ryburn
I have many Alt. events that I know I didn't add.  Note, though, that there is
Alt. Spelling as well as Alt. Name available.
I have used Alt. Spelling for some variations the individual used, but if
it was a misspelling by an enumerator, I just note that in the census event.
 --Paula in Texas
Researching: Adair Baker Beasley Benson Betz Bigley Blagrave Burton Chapman
Clement Clough Coppernoll Costine Daulton Dinwiddie Doody Ellis Exline Field
Floran Floyd Gates Goodale Gordon Gump Hale Harbaugh Hind Hopkins Hughes Hurdle
Jones Klein Koyle Laswell McDonald Misner Passwaters Pelton Roberts Roche Ryburn
Sanford Short Singer Sullivan Weller Williams






From: Heather Stovold hstov...@gmail.com
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Wed, September 26, 2012 10:28:29 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Alt Name vs AKA

Hm, I have the Alt Name event too, and I don't think I created it

I use Alt Name for misspellings and variations of the name - I create one each
time I see one in the source.  I use AKA for other names that are different, for
the same person.  For instance, I have someone that changed his name 3 times...
I use AKA for that.


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Re: [LegacyUG] Template for cemetery book?

2012-09-26 Thread Paula Ryburn
Wow, I think I would rather customize one of the Book templates, than use one
for vertical files at a cemetery.  But thanks.

Hey, is this Mt. Pleasant, Texas?  Used to live there is why I'm asking.  small
world
 --Paula in Texas
Researching:  Adair Baker Beasley Benson Betz Bigley Blagrave Burton Chapman
Clement Clough Coppernoll Costine Daulton Dinwiddie Doody Ellis Exline Field
Floran Floyd Gates Goodale Gordon Gump Hale Harbaugh Hind Hopkins Hughes Hurdle
Jones Klein Koyle Laswell McDonald Misner Passwaters Pelton Roberts Roche Ryburn
Sanford Short Singer Sullivan Weller Williams





From: Ward Walker wnkwal...@rogers.com
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Tue, September 25, 2012 4:08:13 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Template for cemetery book?


I didn’t think about it too much, but what I chose was “Cemetery records 
Abstracts: vertical file  Basic format”. The (source master) Repository is the
historical society. (The only issue I have with the result is that the template
doesn’t print the repository state, only the city.) So my citation becomes:
Highland Cemetery Grave Inventory (vertical file, Mt. Pleasant   Historical
Society, Mount Pleasant), Willie J. Walker.
The exact info from the book is captured in the source detail text, which I
don’t print. Only the person’s name is printed from the detail, but you could
add other things, like a page number.

  Ward
From: Paula Ryburn
Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2012 1:03 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Template for cemetery book?
  I have a book published by the local genealogical society that is a
transcription of grave markers in a cemetery.
In Evidence Explained, this document falls under section 5.21 on page 234;
however, there is not a template in Legacy for cemetery transcriptions or
section 5.21 or page 234.
In EE, they say to cite as a publication, according to type--e.g., book, so I
searched on book, but there are too many choices!
I am leaning toward Books  Book, authored  Author known  Basic format, or ...
 Authored by an agency  Basic format - but is a genealogical society an
agency ?

If you have experience with this sort of document, could you please share which
template you have successfully used?
Thanks in advance,
 --Paula in Texas


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Re: [LegacyUG] Alt Name vs AKA

2012-09-26 Thread Tim Rosenlof
On 9/26/2012 10:31 AM, Ron Taylor wrote:
   If you combine those, you would be wise to combine Alt Birth into
 Alt. Birth or else that LegacyFS name will show up again next time you
 pull that data from nFS

Good point Ron.

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Utah, USA
Swedish Research



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Re: [LegacyUG] Alt Name vs AKA

2012-09-26 Thread Barbara
How do you combine all Alt Birth into Alt. Birth

Thanks,
Barb

- Original Message -
From: Tim Rosenlof spa...@xmission.com
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Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2012 1:25 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Alt Name vs AKA


On 9/26/2012 10:31 AM, Ron Taylor wrote:
   If you combine those, you would be wise to combine Alt Birth into
 Alt. Birth or else that LegacyFS name will show up again next time you
 pull that data from nFS

Good point Ron.

--
Tim Rosenlof
Utah, USA
Swedish Research



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Re: [LegacyUG] Alt Name vs AKA

2012-09-26 Thread Brian/Support
View  Master Lists  Event Definition
Select the Alt Birth entry then use the button at the bottom of the screen
The wording will change to Highlight the Destination, then click this
Button
Select the Alt. Birth entry and click the button again

Brian
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On 26/09/2012 14:46, Barbara wrote:
 How do you combine all Alt Birth into Alt. Birth

 Thanks,
 Barb



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Re: [LegacyUG] problem with unmarried

2012-09-26 Thread Pat Hickin
Yes, I hadn't even noticed the date, Jenny, which is when she wrote her
will -- she was never married.  I just don't want Legacy telling us that
she was unmarried AND that she married someone!   It does that even when
there's no date involved.

Pat

On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 4:14 PM, Jenny M Benson ge...@cedarbank.me.ukwrote:

 On 25/09/2012 19:55, Pat Hickin wrote:
  How can I get Legacy not to do this in reports?
 
  In Jane's marriage info, I have her marriage status marked as
 unmarried.
 
  Here is what Legacy has to say about her in a report:
  Jane married someone. Marriage status: unmarried in 1824.

 I presume you put a Marriage Status Date of 1824.  To me, doing this
 implies that there was a time when she was married but became
 unmarried in 1824.  If she was never married I would leave the Status
 blank.  If she co-habited without marriage I would just check the box
 for This couple did not marry.
 --
 Jenny M Benson



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Re: [LegacyUG] problem with unmarried

2012-09-26 Thread Brian/Support
Since you have made an entry in the marriage info for this person Legacy
has linked her to an unknown husband (The married someone comes from
that link). If she truly never married and had no children then you
should indicate that on the person's individual information screen not
by setting a marriage status. If she had children then there must be a
marriage to create the link between her and her children so my fix below
cannot be used.

Remove the marriage link by selecting the person, right click on her
marriage info bar
Select the Remove the marriage link option from the drop down menu
Now edit the person and click the This individual never married and had
no children option below the list of events.

Brian
Customer Support
Millennia Corporation
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--
On 26/09/2012 16:25, Pat Hickin wrote:
 Yes, I hadn't even noticed the date, Jenny, which is when she wrote her
 will -- she was never married.  I just don't want Legacy telling us that
 she was unmarried AND that she married someone!   It does that even when
 there's no date involved.

 Pat



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Re: [LegacyUG] Template for cemetery book?

2012-09-26 Thread Ward Walker
The important thing is that the citation output looks OK on reports. And that 
your internal name in the master source list is one that you will easily find 
again.

In my case, the grave marker transcriptions were in a binder in the office of 
the historical society.

Mt. Pleasant, Ohio.  I bet there is a Mt. Pleasant in just about every state.

  Ward

From: Paula Ryburn
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2012 1:25 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Template for cemetery book?

Wow, I think I would rather customize one of the Book templates, than use one 
for vertical files at a cemetery.  But thanks.

Hey, is this Mt. Pleasant, Texas?  Used to live there is why I'm asking.  
small world

--Paula in Texas
Researching: Adair Baker Beasley Benson Betz Bigley Blagrave Burton Chapman 
Clement Clough Coppernoll Costine Daulton Dinwiddie Doody Ellis Exline Field 
Floran Floyd Gates Goodale Gordon Gump Hale Harbaugh Hind Hopkins Hughes Hurdle 
Jones Klein Koyle Laswell McDonald Misner Passwaters Pelton Roberts Roche 
Ryburn Sanford Short Singer Sullivan Weller Williams




From: Ward Walker wnkwal...@rogers.com
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Tue, September 25, 2012 4:08:13 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Template for cemetery book?


I didn’t think about it too much, but what I chose was “Cemetery records  
Abstracts: vertical file  Basic format”. The (source master) Repository is the 
historical society. (The only issue I have with the result is that the template 
doesn’t print the repository state, only the city.) So my citation becomes:
  Highland Cemetery Grave Inventory (vertical file, Mt. Pleasant Historical 
Society, Mount Pleasant), Willie J. Walker.
The exact info from the book is captured in the source detail text, which I 
don’t print. Only the person’s name is printed from the detail, but you could 
add other things, like a page number.

  Ward

From: Paula Ryburn
Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2012 1:03 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Template for cemetery book?

I have a book published by the local genealogical society that is a 
transcription of grave markers in a cemetery.
In Evidence Explained, this document falls under section 5.21 on page 234; 
however, there is not a template in Legacy for cemetery transcriptions or 
section 5.21 or page 234.
In EE, they say to cite as a publication, according to type--e.g., book, so I 
searched on book, but there are too many choices!
I am leaning toward Books  Book, authored  Author known  Basic format, or 
...  Authored by an agency  Basic format - but is a genealogical society an 
agency ?

If you have experience with this sort of document, could you please share which 
template you have successfully used?
Thanks in advance,

--Paula in Texas






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Re: [LegacyUG] Template for cemetery book?

2012-09-26 Thread Tim Rosenlof
On 9/26/2012 4:04 PM, Ward Walker wrote:
 I bet there is a Mt. Pleasant in just about every state

Utah :)

--
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Utah, USA
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RE: [LegacyUG] Alt Name vs AKA

2012-09-26 Thread Jan Roberts
I have Alt. Birth, Alt. Death, Alt. Christened, Alt. Christening, Alt. Burial, 
Alt. Buried and Alt. Marriage – none of which I have created or used, and I do 
not use nFS to import data so they must be default Alt. Events.

Cheers
Jan
From: Ron Taylor [mailto:doit4...@yahoo.com]
Sent: Thursday, 27 September 2012 02:32
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Alt Name vs AKA

I believe that Alt. Name is created by LegacyFS when you pull an alternate 
name into your Legacy file from nFS.  Same is true of Alt. Birth, Alt. 
Death, Alt. Burial.  There may be a few others.  The important thing to 
realize is that those event definition names are hard-coded in LegacyFS.  If 
you already have an Alt Birth definition (note the missing period), when you 
pull an alternate birth from LegacyFS, it will not use your Alt Birth but 
will insert the new Alt. Birth into the event definitions table.  If you 
combine those, you would be wise to combine Alt Birth into Alt. Birth or 
else that LegacyFS name will show up again next time you pull that data from 
nFS.  The same is true of the other Alt. names created by the LegacyFS 
interface.
Ron Taylor






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RE: [LegacyUG] Alt Name vs AKA

2012-09-26 Thread Jan Roberts
You must have created Alt. Spelling yourself.  As in my previous post, I do not 
have “many” Alt. Events – only 7 all up.

Cheers
Jan
From: Paula Ryburn [mailto:paula.ryb...@sbcglobal.net]
Sent: Thursday, 27 September 2012 03:20
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Alt Name vs AKA

I have many Alt. events that I know I didn't add.  Note, though, that there 
is Alt. Spelling as well as Alt. Name available.
I have used Alt. Spelling for some variations the individual used, but if it 
was a misspelling by an enumerator, I just note that in the census event.

--Paula in Texas





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Re: [LegacyUG] problem with unmarried

2012-09-26 Thread Pat Hickin
Thanks, Brian,

I knew that option was somewhere but couldn't find it.

However that brings up another matter, especially for men -- I may pretty
well know that he never married, but he could certainly have fathered
children that I know nothing about.  I wish the option simply said He
never married. and stopped at that.

Pat

On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 4:43 PM, Brian/Support
br...@legacyfamilytree.comwrote:

 Since you have made an entry in the marriage info for this person Legacy
 has linked her to an unknown husband (The married someone comes from
 that link). If she truly never married and had no children then you
 should indicate that on the person's individual information screen not
 by setting a marriage status. If she had children then there must be a
 marriage to create the link between her and her children so my fix below
 cannot be used.

 Remove the marriage link by selecting the person, right click on her
 marriage info bar
 Select the Remove the marriage link option from the drop down menu
 Now edit the person and click the This individual never married and had
 no children option below the list of events.

 Brian
 Customer Support
 Millennia Corporation
 br...@legacyfamilytree.com
 http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com
 --
 On 26/09/2012 16:25, Pat Hickin wrote:
  Yes, I hadn't even noticed the date, Jenny, which is when she wrote her
  will -- she was never married.  I just don't want Legacy telling us that
  she was unmarried AND that she married someone!   It does that even
 when
  there's no date involved.
 
  Pat



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Re: [LegacyUG] Alt Name vs AKA

2012-09-26 Thread Tim Rosenlof
On 9/26/2012 5:14 PM, Jan Roberts wrote:
 You must have created Alt. Spelling yourself.  As in my previous post, I do 
 not have “many” Alt. Events

I only have two files in my File dropdown list.

Rosenlof.fdb
Sample.fdb

I like to refer to it from time to time.

--
Tim Rosenlof
Utah, USA
Swedish Research



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Re: [LegacyUG] Alt Name vs AKA

2012-09-26 Thread Terri Brown
Alt. Spelling is not a Legacy event/fact. I have an Alt. Spelling but I 
created it to use instead of AKA every time someone's name was spelled slightly 
different. I only use AKA if someone truly had more than one distinct name.

Terri



 From: Paula Ryburn paula.ryb...@sbcglobal.net
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2012 1:19 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Alt Name vs AKA



I have many Alt. events that I know I didn't add.  Note, though, that there 
is Alt. Spelling as well as Alt. Name available.
I have used Alt. Spelling for some variations the individual used, but if 
it was a misspelling by an enumerator, I just note that in the census event.
 --Paula in Texas
Researching: Adair Baker Beasley Benson Betz Bigley Blagrave Burton Chapman 
Clement Clough Coppernoll Costine Daulton Dinwiddie Doody Ellis Exline Field 
Floran Floyd Gates Goodale Gordon Gump Hale Harbaugh Hind Hopkins Hughes Hurdle 
Jones Klein Koyle Laswell McDonald Misner Passwaters Pelton Roberts Roche 
Ryburn Sanford Short Singer Sullivan Weller Williams





 From: Heather Stovold hstov...@gmail.com
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Wed, September 26, 2012 10:28:29 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Alt Name vs AKA

Hm, I have the Alt Name event too, and I don't think I created it

I use Alt Name for misspellings and variations of the name - I create one each 
time I see one in the source.  I use AKA for other names that are different, 
for the same person.  For instance, I have someone that changed his name 3 
times... I use AKA for that.



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