Re: [LegacyUG] Questions regarding Source Type
It may depend on the question, but on the face of it LUG would be the right place. Ron Ferguson http://www.fergys.co.uk/ From: Sentz Sent: Friday, February 15, 2013 4:08 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Questions regarding Source Type Is this the appropriate venue to ask questions about source types related to source writer input? If not, please let me know who/what group should be contacted. Thank you. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Questions regarding Source Type
What would you like to know? From: Sentz Sent: Friday, February 15, 2013 11:08 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Questions regarding Source Type Is this the appropriate venue to ask questions about source types related to source writer input? If not, please let me know who/what group should be contacted. Thank you. -- Russell G. Strong P. S. Check out Legacy Family Tree today! This full featured genealogy program can be downloaded FREE at http://www.legacyfamilytreestore.com/Articles.asp?ID=133Click=1114 Oh so many branches and not enough time to check out all the roots!!!. Check out my Genealogy Pages at http://www.rgstrong-genes.com . Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re[2]: [LegacyUG] Questions regarding Source Type
Okay, I'll run the following up the flag pole again, since no one responded a while ago. How should one record the following in Legacy using the Source Writer. I was trying to understand how to classify types of documents/data and find the appropriate source type using the What kind of source data field. A child received The Blessing of Little Children rather than being Christened or baptized as an infant. The name of the child, parents, birthdate, church and date of blessing along with the names of the officiating ministers are recorded in a commemorative card/pamphlet that was given to the parents. Didn't see anything that was appropriate in the big list of source types. Would this be a generic source? The parents of a child received a certificate of birth from the hospital. This is supposedly a commemorative document and not considered the legal birth certificate from the state of residence. What type of document would this be considered? generic or birth record at the local/county level? The newlyweds received a Certificate of Marriage from the officiating minister. Again, this is not a marriage license, but a commemorative document/pamphlet. It cites the names of those married, the location (city state, not the church, although the name of the church is known), date of the ceremony, witnesses and the officiating minister. It is not known whether the church recorded the marriage in 1945. Again, is this considered a generic document? I did not see anything that looked like a match in the type of source lists. What about the little funeral service card...would this be considered a funeral announcements, artifact-privately held? or would this also be considered generic? Since I am in possession of all of the above, would they be considered part of my personal repository, or would they be assigned to the organization the issued the document? -- Original Message -- From: R G Strong-genes rgstrongge...@gmail.com To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com Sent: 2/15/2013 12:50:46 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Questions regarding Source Type What would you like to know? From:Sentz Sent: Friday, February 15, 2013 11:08 AM To:LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Questions regarding Source Type Is this the appropriate venue to ask questions about source types related to source writer input? If not, please let me know who/what group should be contacted. Thank you. -- Russell G. Strong P. S. Check out Legacy Family Tree today! This full featured genealogy program can be downloaded FREE at http://www.legacyfamilytreestore.com/Articles.asp?ID=133Click=1114 Oh so many branches and not enough time to check out all the roots!!!. Check out my Genealogy Pages at http://www.rgstrong-genes.com . Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Questions regarding Source Type
On 2/15/2013 1:24 PM, Sentz wrote: Okay, I'll run the following up the flag pole again, since no one responded a while ago. How should one record the following in Legacy using the Source Writer. I was trying to understand how to classify types of documents/data and find the appropriate source type using the What kind of source data field. A child received The Blessing of Little Children rather than being Christened or baptized as an infant. The name of the child, parents, birthdate, church and date of blessing along with the names of the officiating ministers are recorded in a commemorative card/pamphlet that was given to the parents. Didn't see anything that was appropriate in the big list of source types. Would this be a generic source? The parents of a child received a certificate of birth from the hospital. This is supposedly a commemorative document and not considered the legal birth certificate from the state of residence. What type of document would this be considered? generic or birth record at the local/county level? The newlyweds received a Certificate of Marriage from the officiating minister. Again, this is not a marriage license, but a commemorative document/pamphlet. It cites the names of those married, the location (city state, not the church, although the name of the church is known), date of the ceremony, witnesses and the officiating minister. It is not known whether the church recorded the marriage in 1945. Again, is this considered a generic document? I did not see anything that looked like a match in the type of source lists. What about the little funeral service card...would this be considered a funeral announcements, artifact-privately held? or would this also be considered generic? Since I am in possession of all of the above, would they be considered part of my personal repository, or would they be assigned to the organization the issued the document? Artifacts privately held, then fill in the blanks, noting that you do NOT have to fill in every blank -- Gene Young Researching Young, Harer, Cox Sallada With Legacy Family Tree http://myyoungs.atspace.com/index.htm Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: Re[2]: [LegacyUG] Questions regarding Source Type
Sentz, see my reply below each question. From: Sentz Sent: Friday, February 15, 2013 1:24 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re[2]: [LegacyUG] Questions regarding Source Type Okay, I'll run the following up the flag pole again, since no one responded a while ago. How should one record the following in Legacy using the Source Writer. I was trying to understand how to classify types of documents/data and find the appropriate source type using the What kind of source data field. A child received The Blessing of Little Children rather than being Christened or baptized as an infant. The name of the child, parents, birthdate, church and date of blessing along with the names of the officiating ministers are recorded in a commemorative card/pamphlet that was given to the parents. Didn't see anything that was appropriate in the big list of source types. Would this be a generic source? I would use: Church recordsChurch brochures, newsletters, newspapers, etcBasic Format then fill out the form: Title: The Blessing of Little Children Record Type: Commemorative card/pamphlet fill out rest of form Text/Comments: whatever you want Repository: You Multimedia: scan of document The parents of a child received a certificate of birth from the hospital. This is supposedly a commemorative document and not considered the legal birth certificate from the state of residence. What type of document would this be considered? generic or birth record at the local/county level? ArtifactPrivately heldfill in blanks Repository you The newlyweds received a Certificate of Marriage from the officiating minister. Again, this is not a marriage license, but a commemorative document/pamphlet. It cites the names of those married, the location (city state, not the church, although the name of the church is known), date of the ceremony, witnesses and the officiating minister. It is not known whether the church recorded the marriage in 1945. Again, is this considered a generic document? I did not see anything that looked like a match in the type of source lists. This would be an original Certificate of Marriage I would use: Marriage recordsFraktursBasic format fill in the blanks Repository: you What about the little funeral service card...would this be considered a funeral announcements, artifact-privately held? or would this also be considered generic? Funeral home recordsPrivately heldfill in blanks Repository: you Since I am in possession of all of the above, would they be considered part of my personal repository, or would they be assigned to the organization the issued the document? __ What would you like to know? From: Sentz Sent: Friday, February 15, 2013 11:08 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Questions regarding Source Type Is this the appropriate venue to ask questions about source types related to source writer input? If not, please let me know who/what group should be contacted. Thank you. Russell G. Strong P. S. Check out Legacy Family Tree today! This full featured genealogy program can be downloaded FREE at http://www.legacyfamilytreestore.com/Articles.asp?ID=133Click=1114 Oh so many branches and not enough time to check out all the roots!!!. Check out my Genealogy Pages at http://www.rgstrong-genes.com . Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re[4]: [LegacyUG] Questions regarding Source Type
Thank you Gene and Russell. Your explanations are very helpful. So, when would one use a Generic designation? Geoff Rasmussen used it in some of his demos. -- Original Message -- From: R G Strong-genes rgstrongge...@gmail.com To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com Sent: 2/15/2013 1:58:36 PM Subject: Re: Re[2]: [LegacyUG] Questions regarding Source Type Sentz, see my reply below each question. From:Sentz Sent: Friday, February 15, 2013 1:24 PM To:LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re[2]: [LegacyUG] Questions regarding Source Type Okay, I'll run the following up the flag pole again, since no one responded a while ago. How should one record the following in Legacy using the Source Writer. I was trying to understand how to classify types of documents/data and find the appropriate source type using the What kind of source data field. A child received The Blessing of Little Children rather than being Christened or baptized as an infant. The name of the child, parents, birthdate, church and date of blessing along with the names of the officiating ministers are recorded in a commemorative card/pamphlet that was given to the parents. Didn't see anything that was appropriate in the big list of source types. Would this be a generic source? I would use: Church recordsChurch brochures, newsletters, newspapers, etcBasic Format then fill out the form: Title: The Blessing of Little Children Record Type: Commemorative card/pamphlet fill out rest of form Text/Comments: whatever you want Repository: You Multimedia: scan of document The parents of a child received a certificate of birth from the hospital. This is supposedly a commemorative document and not considered the legal birth certificate from the state of residence. What type of document would this be considered? generic or birth record at the local/county level? ArtifactPrivately heldfill in blanks Repository you The newlyweds received a Certificate of Marriage from the officiating minister. Again, this is not a marriage license, but a commemorative document/pamphlet. It cites the names of those married, the location (city state, not the church, although the name of the church is known), date of the ceremony, witnesses and the officiating minister. It is not known whether the church recorded the marriage in 1945. Again, is this considered a generic document? I did not see anything that looked like a match in the type of source lists. This would be an original Certificate of Marriage I would use: Marriage recordsFraktursBasic format fill in the blanks Repository: you What about the little funeral service card...would this be considered a funeral announcements, artifact-privately held? or would this also be considered generic? Funeral home recordsPrivately heldfill in blanks Repository: you Since I am in possession of all of the above, would they be considered part of my personal repository, or would they be assigned to the organization the issued the document? __ What would you like to know? From:Sentz Sent: Friday, February 15, 2013 11:08 AM To:LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Questions regarding Source Type Is this the appropriate venue to ask questions about source types related to source writer input? If not, please let me know who/what group should be contacted. Thank you. Russell G. Strong P. S. Check out Legacy Family Tree today! This full featured genealogy program can be downloaded FREE at http://www.legacyfamilytreestore.com/Articles.asp?ID=133Click=1114 Oh so many branches and not enough time to check out all the roots!!!. Check out my Genealogy Pages at http://www.rgstrong-genes.com . Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: Re[4]: [LegacyUG] Questions regarding Source Type
When nothing fits in other catagories From: Sentz Sent: Friday, February 15, 2013 2:16 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re[4]: [LegacyUG] Questions regarding Source Type Thank you Gene and Russell. Your explanations are very helpful. So, when would one use a Generic designation? Geoff Rasmussen used it in some of his demos. -- Original Message -- From: R G Strong-genes rgstrongge...@gmail.com To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com Sent: 2/15/2013 1:58:36 PM Subject: Re: Re[2]: [LegacyUG] Questions regarding Source Type Sentz, see my reply below each question. From: Sentz Sent: Friday, February 15, 2013 1:24 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re[2]: [LegacyUG] Questions regarding Source Type Okay, I'll run the following up the flag pole again, since no one responded a while ago. How should one record the following in Legacy using the Source Writer. I was trying to understand how to classify types of documents/data and find the appropriate source type using the What kind of source data field. A child received The Blessing of Little Children rather than being Christened or baptized as an infant. The name of the child, parents, birthdate, church and date of blessing along with the names of the officiating ministers are recorded in a commemorative card/pamphlet that was given to the parents. Didn't see anything that was appropriate in the big list of source types. Would this be a generic source? I would use: Church recordsChurch brochures, newsletters, newspapers, etcBasic Format then fill out the form: Title: The Blessing of Little Children Record Type: Commemorative card/pamphlet fill out rest of form Text/Comments: whatever you want Repository: You Multimedia: scan of document The parents of a child received a certificate of birth from the hospital. This is supposedly a commemorative document and not considered the legal birth certificate from the state of residence. What type of document would this be considered? generic or birth record at the local/county level? ArtifactPrivately heldfill in blanks Repository you The newlyweds received a Certificate of Marriage from the officiating minister. Again, this is not a marriage license, but a commemorative document/pamphlet. It cites the names of those married, the location (city state, not the church, although the name of the church is known), date of the ceremony, witnesses and the officiating minister. It is not known whether the church recorded the marriage in 1945. Again, is this considered a generic document? I did not see anything that looked like a match in the type of source lists. This would be an original Certificate of Marriage I would use: Marriage recordsFraktursBasic format fill in the blanks Repository: you What about the little funeral service card...would this be considered a funeral announcements, artifact-privately held? or would this also be considered generic? Funeral home recordsPrivately heldfill in blanks Repository: you Since I am in possession of all of the above, would they be considered part of my personal repository, or would they be assigned to the organization the issued the document? __ What would you like to know? From: Sentz Sent: Friday, February 15, 2013 11:08 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Questions regarding Source Type Is this the appropriate venue to ask questions about source types related to source writer input? If not, please let me know who/what group should be contacted. Thank you. -- Russell G. Strong P. S. Check out Legacy Family Tree today! This full featured genealogy program can be downloaded FREE at http://www.legacyfamilytreestore.com/Articles.asp?ID=133Click=1114 Oh so many branches and not enough time to check out all the roots!!!. Check out my Genealogy Pages at http://www.rgstrong-genes.com . Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Questions regarding Source Type
On 15/02/2013 18:24, Sentz wrote: Would this be a generic source? Other people have given you good answers to your specific questions but I just wanted to make a more general point. The Generic Source is really only for use when you can't find any other template which will suit. It is very broad and the fields don't relate to anything too specific. -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Manual Merge
On 15/02/2013 19:26, Sentz wrote: What I want to do is get the info from about 6 individuals in family file B moved and merged into the records for the same individuals in my primary family file A. Is it possible to use the manual merge to merge individual records from two family files. I tried this and it didn't work. Kept getting a message that I couldn't select the same person for the right hand side of the screen. I had split screen up and both of the individual record names highlighted. If there isn't a way to do the manual merge for the situation above, is there any other way besides tagging them and separating them from Fam File B then merging them into Fam File A as explained in Help Merge best practices? Did you definitely have the 2 different files open? That sounds like a message you might get if you were looking at 2 views of the same file. -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Questions regarding Source Type
I absolutely agree with them being considered as Artifacts, privately held. The keys words to all of these documents are commemorative and in my possession. Otherwise, where would any other researcher now or in the future go to see these documents. The answer is only to the original poster of the question. And yes, I'll also be the first to admit that many people blur the lines between commemorative and official. I've seen many supposed birth certificates from researchers that are in effect only the commemorative certificate issued by the hospital and not the official record of birth recorded by the local government agency. The same applies to those marriage certificates that are freely handed out by ministers. But then as I grow older and more forgiving, I have to ask myself, what is the difference? If a person records one of these commemorative certificates as an official document but adds notes something to the effect that it was issued by the hospital, or minister, and is in their possession, that seems close enough for me. At least the dates and locations are correct and those would be a good pointer for looking for any official documents if so desired. Yeah, I know --- I'll take a lot of heat for this. So what. One has to be thick skinned to be on the LUG anyhow. :-) Brian in CA -Original Message- From: Gene Young [mailto:n2...@cfl.rr.com] Sent: Friday, February 15, 2013 10:45 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Questions regarding Source Type On 2/15/2013 1:24 PM, Sentz wrote: Okay, I'll run the following up the flag pole again, since no one responded a while ago. How should one record the following in Legacy using the Source Writer. I was trying to understand how to classify types of documents/data and find the appropriate source type using the What kind of source data field. A child received The Blessing of Little Children rather than being Christened or baptized as an infant. The name of the child, parents, birthdate, church and date of blessing along with the names of the officiating ministers are recorded in a commemorative card/pamphlet that was given to the parents. Didn't see anything that was appropriate in the big list of source types. Would this be a generic source? The parents of a child received a certificate of birth from the hospital. This is supposedly a commemorative document and not considered the legal birth certificate from the state of residence. What type of document would this be considered? generic or birth record at the local/county level? The newlyweds received a Certificate of Marriage from the officiating minister. Again, this is not a marriage license, but a commemorative document/pamphlet. It cites the names of those married, the location (city state, not the church, although the name of the church is known), date of the ceremony, witnesses and the officiating minister. It is not known whether the church recorded the marriage in 1945. Again, is this considered a generic document? I did not see anything that looked like a match in the type of source lists. What about the little funeral service card...would this be considered a funeral announcements, artifact-privately held? or would this also be considered generic? Since I am in possession of all of the above, would they be considered part of my personal repository, or would they be assigned to the organization the issued the document? Artifacts privately held, then fill in the blanks, noting that you do NOT have to fill in every blank -- Gene Young Researching Young, Harer, Cox Sallada With Legacy Family Tree http://myyoungs.atspace.com/index.htm Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Manual Merge
It may also be that the screen from which the merge is to be made is not in focus - try clicking on that screen --- Ron Ferguson http://www.fergys.co.uk/ GOONS #5307 Jenny M Benson ge...@cedarbank.me.uk wrote: On 15/02/2013 19:26, Sentz wrote: What I want to do is get the info from about 6 individuals in family file B moved and merged into the records for the same individuals in my primary family file A. Is it possible to use the manual merge to merge individual records from two family files. I tried this and it didn't work. Kept getting a message that I couldn't select the same person for the right hand side of the screen. I had split screen up and both of the individual record names highlighted. If there isn't a way to do the manual merge for the situation above, is there any other way besides tagging them and separating them from Fam File B then merging them into Fam File A as explained in Help Merge best practices? Did you definitely have the 2 different files open? That sounds like a message you might get if you were looking at 2 views of the same file. -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re[2]: [LegacyUG] Questions regarding Source Type
Brian Thank you for your perspective. Cathy -- Original Message -- From: Brian L. Lightfoot br...@the-lightfoots.com To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com Sent: 2/15/2013 2:15:06 PM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Questions regarding Source Type I absolutely agree with them being considered as Artifacts, privately held. The keys words to all of these documents are commemorative and in my possession. Otherwise, where would any other researcher now or in the future go to see these documents. The answer is only to the original poster of the question. And yes, I'll also be the first to admit that many people blur the lines between commemorative and official. I've seen many supposed birth certificates from researchers that are in effect only the commemorative certificate issued by the hospital and not the official record of birth recorded by the local government agency. The same applies to those marriage certificates that are freely handed out by ministers. But then as I grow older and more forgiving, I have to ask myself, what is the difference? If a person records one of these commemorative certificates as an official document but adds notes something to the effect that it was issued by the hospital, or minister, and is in their possession, that seems close enough for me. At least the dates and locations are correct and those would be a good pointer for looking for any official documents if so desired. Yeah, I know --- I'll take a lot of heat for this. So what. One has to be thick skinned to be on the LUG anyhow. :-) Brian in CA -Original Message- From: Gene Young [mailto:n2...@cfl.rr.com] Sent: Friday, February 15, 2013 10:45 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Questions regarding Source Type On 2/15/2013 1:24 PM, Sentz wrote: Okay, I'll run the following up the flag pole again, since no one responded a while ago. How should one record the following in Legacy using the Source Writer. I was trying to understand how to classify types of documents/data and find the appropriate source type using the What kind of source data field. A child received The Blessing of Little Children rather than being Christened or baptized as an infant. The name of the child, parents, birthdate, church and date of blessing along with the names of the officiating ministers are recorded in a commemorative card/pamphlet that was given to the parents. Didn't see anything that was appropriate in the big list of source types. Would this be a generic source? The parents of a child received a certificate of birth from the hospital. This is supposedly a commemorative document and not considered the legal birth certificate from the state of residence. What type of document would this be considered? generic or birth record at the local/county level? The newlyweds received a Certificate of Marriage from the officiating minister. Again, this is not a marriage license, but a commemorative document/pamphlet. It cites the names of those married, the location (city state, not the church, although the name of the church is known), date of the ceremony, witnesses and the officiating minister. It is not known whether the church recorded the marriage in 1945. Again, is this considered a generic document? I did not see anything that looked like a match in the type of source lists. What about the little funeral service card...would this be considered a funeral announcements, artifact-privately held? or would this also be considered generic? Since I am in possession of all of the above, would they be considered part of my personal repository, or would they be assigned to the organization the issued the document? Artifacts privately held, then fill in the blanks, noting that you do NOT have to fill in every blank -- Gene Young Researching Young, Harer, Cox Sallada With Legacy Family Tree http://myyoungs.atspace.com/index.htm Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog
Re: [LegacyUG] Manual Merge
Have you dragged and dropped the individuals into your primary file? You cannot merge them until both copies are in the same file. Brian Customer Support Millennia Corporation br...@legacyfamilytree.com http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com -- On 15-Feb-13 14:26, Sentz wrote: Hello All What I want to do is get the info from about 6 individuals in family file B moved and merged into the records for the same individuals in my primary family file A. Is it possible to use the manual merge to merge individual records from two family files. I tried this and it didn't work. Kept getting a message that I couldn't select the same person for the right hand side of the screen. I had split screen up and both of the individual record names highlighted. If there isn't a way to do the manual merge for the situation above, is there any other way besides tagging them and separating them from Fam File B then merging them into Fam File A as explained in Help Merge best practices? Cathy Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re[2]: [LegacyUG] Manual Merge
No I haven't. I am assuming that one would have to have a split screen with one family file in each screen view to do this. -- Original Message -- From: Brian/Support br...@legacyfamilytree.com To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com Sent: 2/15/2013 3:09:55 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Manual Merge Have you dragged and dropped the individuals into your primary file? You cannot merge them until both copies are in the same file. Brian Customer Support Millennia Corporation br...@legacyfamilytree.com http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com -- On 15-Feb-13 14:26, Sentz wrote: Hello All What I want to do is get the info from about 6 individuals in family file B moved and merged into the records for the same individuals in my primary family file A. Is it possible to use the manual merge to merge individual records from two family files. I tried this and it didn't work. Kept getting a message that I couldn't select the same person for the right hand side of the screen. I had split screen up and both of the individual record names highlighted. If there isn't a way to do the manual merge for the situation above, is there any other way besides tagging them and separating them from Fam File B then merging them into Fam File A as explained in Help Merge best practices? Cathy Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Manual Merge
correct. Brian Customer Support Millennia Corporation br...@legacyfamilytree.com http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com -- On 15-Feb-13 15:38, Sentz wrote: No I haven't. I am assuming that one would have to have a split screen with one family file in each screen view to do this. -- Original Message -- From: Brian/Support br...@legacyfamilytree.com To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com Sent: 2/15/2013 3:09:55 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Manual Merge Have you dragged and dropped the individuals into your primary file? You cannot merge them until both copies are in the same file. Brian Customer Support Millennia Corporation br...@legacyfamilytree.com http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: Re[2]: [LegacyUG] Manual Merge
Cathy, If you don't have that, then what do you have? Have you looked at the Help files? I suggest that you go to Family View and try as Brian indicates. You are given a number of selection options --- Ron Ferguson http://www.fergys.co.uk/ GOONS #5307 Sentz ro...@nycap.rr.com wrote: No I haven't. I am assuming that one would have to have a split screen with one family file in each screen view to do this. -- Original Message -- From: Brian/Support br...@legacyfamilytree.com To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com Sent: 2/15/2013 3:09:55 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Manual Merge Have you dragged and dropped the individuals into your primary file? You cannot merge them until both copies are in the same file. Brian Customer Support Millennia Corporation br...@legacyfamilytree.com http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com -- On 15-Feb-13 14:26, Sentz wrote: Hello All What I want to do is get the info from about 6 individuals in family file B moved and merged into the records for the same individuals in my primary family file A. Is it possible to use the manual merge to merge individual records from two family files. I tried this and it didn't work. Kept getting a message that I couldn't select the same person for the right hand side of the screen. I had split screen up and both of the individual record names highlighted. If there isn't a way to do the manual merge for the situation above, is there any other way besides tagging them and separating them from Fam File B then merging them into Fam File A as explained in Help Merge best practices? Cathy Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: Re[4]: [LegacyUG] Manual Merge
For the avoidance of doubt what has been copied across is one or more record(s) not a file. --- Ron Ferguson http://www.fergys.co.uk/ GOONS #5307 Sentz ro...@nycap.rr.com wrote: Thanks Brian and Ron. T he drag and drop technique works and then moves into the merge process. I did see the Help directions for D and D now that I know what to look for. Yesterday I was also getting a message that said one can't copy a file over. Legacy continues to amaze me with all of its terrific features. -- Original Message -- From: Ron Ferguson ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com Sent: 2/15/2013 3:49:54 PM Subject: Re: Re[2]: [LegacyUG] Manual Merge Cathy, If you don't have that, then what do you have? Have you looked at the Help files? I suggest that you go to Family View and try as Brian indicates. You are given a number of selection options --- Ron Ferguson http://www.fergys.co.uk/ GOONS #5307 Sentz ro...@nycap.rr.com wrote: No I haven't. I am assuming that one would have to have a split screen with one family file in each screen view to do this. -- Original Message -- From: Brian/Support br...@legacyfamilytree.com To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com Sent: 2/15/2013 3:09:55 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Manual Merge Have you dragged and dropped the individuals into your primary file? You cannot merge them until both copies are in the same file. Brian Customer Support Millennia Corporation br...@legacyfamilytree.com http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com -- On 15-Feb-13 14:26, Sentz wrote: Hello All What I want to do is get the info from about 6 individuals in family file B moved and merged into the records for the same individuals in my primary family file A. Is it possible to use the manual merge to merge individual records from two family files. I tried this and it didn't work. Kept getting a message that I couldn't select the same person for the right hand side of the screen. I had split screen up and both of the individual record names highlighted. If there isn't a way to do the manual merge for the situation above, is there any other way besides tagging them and separating them from Fam File B then merging them into Fam File A as explained in Help Merge best practices? Cathy Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re[6]: [LegacyUG] Manual Merge
I misspoke. Yes, an individual record, not a family file. Many thanks for the guidance on a number of matters today. Cathy -- Original Message -- From: Ron Ferguson ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com Sent: 2/15/2013 5:21:51 PM Subject: Re: Re[4]: [LegacyUG] Manual Merge For the avoidance of doubt what has been copied across is one or more record(s) not a file. --- Ron Ferguson http://www.fergys.co.uk/ GOONS #5307 Sentz ro...@nycap.rr.com wrote: Thanks Brian and Ron. T he drag and drop technique works and then moves into the merge process. I did see the Help directions for D and D now that I know what to look for. Yesterday I was also getting a message that said one can't copy a file over. Legacy continues to amaze me with all of its terrific features. -- Original Message -- From: Ron Ferguson ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com Sent: 2/15/2013 3:49:54 PM Subject: Re: Re[2]: [LegacyUG] Manual Merge Cathy, If you don't have that, then what do you have? Have you looked at the Help files? I suggest that you go to Family View and try as Brian indicates. You are given a number of selection options --- Ron Ferguson http://www.fergys.co.uk/ GOONS #5307 Sentz ro...@nycap.rr.com wrote: No I haven't. I am assuming that one would have to have a split screen with one family file in each screen view to do this. -- Original Message -- From: Brian/Support br...@legacyfamilytree.com To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com Sent: 2/15/2013 3:09:55 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Manual Merge Have you dragged and dropped the individuals into your primary file? You cannot merge them until both copies are in the same file. Brian Customer Support Millennia Corporation br...@legacyfamilytree.com http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com -- On 15-Feb-13 14:26, Sentz wrote: Hello All What I want to do is get the info from about 6 individuals in family file B moved and merged into the records for the same individuals in my primary family file A. Is it possible to use the manual merge to merge individual records from two family files. I tried this and it didn't work. Kept getting a message that I couldn't select the same person for the right hand side of the screen. I had split screen up and both of the individual record names highlighted. If there isn't a way to do the manual merge for the situation above, is there any other way besides tagging them and separating them from Fam File B then merging them into Fam File A as explained in Help Merge best practices? Cathy Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] Using Search
Hello List, I am trying to compile a list of people in my database that has a Find-A-Grave source and Created by: in the Notes. I did SearchDetailed Search Look for Whom Individual Where to Look Event Name How to Look Contains What to Look For Find-A-Grave. Second Condition and Where to Look Events Notes How to Look Contains What to Look For Created by: I have tried several times and gets this error message. NO RECORDS WERE FOUND THAT MATCH THE SEARCH CRITERIA. What am I doing wrong? Lloyd mailto:lhite3...@juno.com How to Sleep Like a Rock Obey this one natural trick to fall asleep and stay asleep all night. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/511ec33f973c7433d455fst04duc Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Using Search
Lloyd, I'm afraid that is not an error message but a statement of fact. The question is why is it not producing the result which you expect? I note that you say has a Find-A-Grave source, and 'Created by:' in the notes. You then search for an Event and not a Source and Event Notes and not Source notes. Which should it be? --- Ron Ferguson http://www.fergys.co.uk/ GOONS #5307 Lloyd L. Hite lhite3...@juno.com wrote: Hello List, I am trying to compile a list of people in my database that has a Find-A-Grave source and Created by: in the Notes. I did SearchDetailed Search Look for Whom Individual Where to Look Event Name How to Look Contains What to Look For Find-A-Grave. Second Condition and Where to Look Events Notes How to Look Contains What to Look For Created by: I have tried several times and gets this error message. NO RECORDS WERE FOUND THAT MATCH THE SEARCH CRITERIA. What am I doing wrong? Lloyd mailto:lhite3...@juno.com How to Sleep Like a Rock Obey this one natural trick to fall asleep and stay asleep all night. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/511ec33f973c7433d455fst04duc Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Using Search
And is the Find a Grave just a notation In the Notes? or do you actually have an event created called Find a Grave. If so, Try just searching for the event name to get your results and then filter out what you dont need. On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 3:42 PM, Ron Ferguson ronfergy@tiscali.co.ukwrote: Lloyd, I'm afraid that is not an error message but a statement of fact. The question is why is it not producing the result which you expect? I note that you say has a Find-A-Grave source, and 'Created by:' *in the notes.* You then search for an Event and not a Source and Event Notes and not Source notes. Which should it be? --- Ron Ferguson http://www.fergys.co.uk/ GOONS #5307 Lloyd L. Hite lhite3...@juno.com wrote: Hello List, I am trying to compile a list of people in my database that has a Find-A-Grave source and Created by: in the Notes. I did SearchDetailed Search Look for Whom Individual Where to Look Event Name How to Look Contains What to Look For Find-A-Grave. Second Condition and Where to Look Events Notes How to Look Contains What to Look For Created by: I have tried several times and gets this error message. NO RECORDS WERE FOUND THAT MATCH THE SEARCH CRITERIA. What am I doing wrong? Lloyd mailto:lhite3...@juno.com How to Sleep Like a Rock Obey this one natural trick to fall asleep and stay asleep all night. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/511ec33f973c7433d455fst04duc Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Using Search
Go to your Master Source List and choose Find-A-Grave. In the sidebar click Show List. Tag that list. Created by: isn't necessarily Event Notes. Maybe it's some other kind of notes. - JL Beeken JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists http://jlog.jgen.ws/ On 2/15/2013 3:22 PM, Lloyd L. Hite wrote: Hello List, I am trying to compile a list of people in my database that has a Find-A-Grave source and Created by: in the Notes. I did SearchDetailed Search Look for Whom Individual Where to Look Event Name How to Look Contains What to Look For Find-A-Grave. Second Condition and Where to Look Events Notes How to Look Contains What to Look For Created by: I have tried several times and gets this error message. NO RECORDS WERE FOUND THAT MATCH THE SEARCH CRITERIA. What am I doing wrong? Lloyd mailto:lhite3...@juno.com How to Sleep Like a Rock Obey this one natural trick to fall asleep and stay asleep all night. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/511ec33f973c7433d455fst04duc Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Multimedia Locations
Yes, I should have mentioned that there are sub-folders for each of the 4 multimedia file locations. My understanding is that Legacy will look in all sub-folder of each specified location of Pictures, Sounds, Video, and Documents. For example, the existing specified location for pictures is D:\Legacy Files\Pictures. Within that actual Pictures folder, there are about 10 sub-folders, entitled Census, Marriage, Death, Graves, etc. When I look at an attached image to a source citation, Legacy shows only the filename and never the complete path, thus my reasoning that Legacy will look for that image in any of the sub-folders. I think what Legacy does is merely go to the specified multimedia location and then parse down through any sub-folders until it finds a matching filename that it was looking for. Which is why you bring up the question about UNIQUE filenames. And yes, all of the filenames throughout are unique. Try examining any image attached to a source citation and Legacy appears to refer to that image only by the filename and not the complete path (which would include a sub-folder). I realize that there would be confusion galore if one sub-folder had a filename image123.jpg and another sub-folder had another file with the same name, image123.jpg. So if I change my Pictures location from D:\Legacy Files\Pictures to something like G:\Legacy Files\Pictures, will Legacy link all images just as before? There will be no other changes to filenames, sub-folder names. Only the drive letter will be changing. Am I good to go? Anyone? Anyone? Brian in CA -Original Message- From: Ron Ferguson [mailto:ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk] Sent: Friday, February 15, 2013 2:44 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Multimedia Locations Brian, It may not be as bad as you think! But, a couple of questions are all your images in the same folder, or are they in dfferent folders inc. sub-folders? If the latter do all your images have a different i.e. unique file name? If the images all have a unique file name there is not a problem, otherwise --- Ron Ferguson http://www.fergys.co.uk/ GOONS #5307 Brian L. Lightfoot br...@the-lightfoots.com wrote: OMG - a terrible thought has just occurred to me, something that I thought I knew the answer to but apparently I'm not 100% positive. I'm about to make some major changes to my home computer, swapping out drives, switching over to SSD, etc. I will be doing a clean re-install of Windows and some of the changes involve drive letter changes. OK, I know how to set the multimedia locations under the Options/Customize menu and I'm assuming that once I point Legacy to the new locations, all linked images should be found. What I'm getting at is that I believe that the individual links to an image are links to a filename only and that Legacy will look anywhere within the location set under options. For example, a link to a copy of a 1860 census image that was previously found in D:\Legacy Files\Images should be once again found in G:\Legacy Files\Images assuming the new location pointer is set to G:\Legacy Files\Images. I shudder at the prospect of having to manually change over 3,500 links within Legacy. Whew, it's amazing that what you think you know becomes questionable once you start to take a risk. Somebody tell me to take a deep breath and relax and that it will work as advertised. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG]
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Re: [LegacyUG] Questions regarding Source Type
Brian, I applaud your defense of commemorative records. In my opinion, the worth to the researcher of what are termed commemorative certificates, should be held at least as valuable as entries in a family Bible, or those held in official repositories, in that they are created by participants in the event at the time of that event. In years when most of our research was conducted either in person at record repositories, or via the mail communicating with those repositories, I would have deemed such artifacts less valuable due to the very limited access by remote researchers to those commemorative documents. However today, when such documents may be easily scanned for dissemination to other researchers, and certainly when such scanned documents are accompanied by the written testimony of those whose life events they document, I see no reason why they should ever be doubted any more than, and in many cases less than, those records reposing in official vaults. How often have we seen errors in official records? I suggest that the likelihood of errors in documents created on-the-spot, and in the presence of those to whom they pertain, is less than those created by official record-keepers, who often only transcribed records created by churches and the like. Although we rightly place great store in recording sources available to other researchers it is my opinion that our goal should be the accurate determination of names, dates, places and events, and the veracity of a record should count more than its place of repose, or its official nature. Certainly a marriage certificate freely handed out by ministers was sufficient proof of marriage to those being wed, and was certainly enough to allow them to register at a hotel, or to prove the legality of their matrimonial bond to others in their families or community. Sometimes I think we demean recording what we know to be true in favor of recording what is acceptable to remote researchers. The attitude that if our source isn't official it doesn't count smacks of the tail wagging the dog. Ironically today such commemorative documents are insufficient evidence to establish, for example, a Social Security Number. The bureaucracies only acknowledge the legality of documents issued by their fellow bureaucracies. The written testimony of those who performed the delivery of a baby, or the ceremony of marriage, counts for nothing. :-) John Zimmerman Mesa, AZ On 2/15/2013 12:15 PM, Brian L. Lightfoot wrote: I absolutely agree with them being considered as Artifacts, privately held. The keys words to all of these documents are commemorative and in my possession. Otherwise, where would any other researcher now or in the future go to see these documents. The answer is only to the original poster of the question. And yes, I'll also be the first to admit that many people blur the lines between commemorative and official. I've seen many supposed birth certificates from researchers that are in effect only the commemorative certificate issued by the hospital and not the official record of birth recorded by the local government agency. The same applies to those marriage certificates that are freely handed out by ministers. But then as I grow older and more forgiving, I have to ask myself, what is the difference? If a person records one of these commemorative certificates as an official document but adds notes something to the effect that it was issued by the hospital, or minister, and is in their possession, that seems close enough for me. At least the dates and locations are correct and those would be a good pointer for looking for any official documents if so desired. Yeah, I know --- I'll take a lot of heat for this. So what. One has to be thick skinned to be on the LUG anyhow. :-) Brian in CA -Original Message- From: Gene Young [mailto:n2...@cfl.rr.com] Sent: Friday, February 15, 2013 10:45 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Questions regarding Source Type On 2/15/2013 1:24 PM, Sentz wrote: Okay, I'll run the following up the flag pole again, since no one responded a while ago. How should one record the following in Legacy using the Source Writer. I was trying to understand how to classify types of documents/data and find the appropriate source type using the What kind of source data field. A child received The Blessing of Little Children rather than being Christened or baptized as an infant. The name of the child, parents, birthdate, church and date of blessing along with the names of the officiating ministers are recorded in a commemorative card/pamphlet that was given to the parents. Didn't see anything that was appropriate in the big list of source types. Would this be a generic source? The parents of a child received a certificate of birth from the hospital. This is supposedly a commemorative document and not considered the legal birth certificate from the state
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