Re: [LegacyUG] edit child

[John B. Lisle]

Marion, et al,
I also was a fan of double click navigating. Unfortunately, we found that
it did not function well with the new Family View. It took me a few days
to get comfortable with editing children (or parents!) by RIGHT-clicking
on the person and selecting Edit. 
Now I do that event when working with L7.5.
john.
At 08:33 PM 12/1/2013, 2marion wimps wrote:
Is there a chance we can get
this back again? Having the single and double click removed and the
hovering action moved is very aggravating - there also seems no easy way
to view each child of a parent as you used to - when you click on the
child it automatically pops up to the main screen in Family View.
Marion

On 2 December 2013 00:40, Bert van Kootwijk

wrote:


No missed setting. This feature is removed.

Bert

Rose Hatten schreef op 1-12-2013 17:22:

> In v 7, I could edit a child by hovering, and having a box pop
up with the

> editing option. Â That isn't working for me in version 8. Â Does
anyone

> know what setting I may have missed?

>

> Rose




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RE: [LegacyUG] Family Search Integration [was: E mail test and customer number]

[John B. Lisle]

Bill,

Let me start out by saying that I am not a FS expert, but I have
played with it and done a bit of testing.

I think I can give some guidance.

1/ As far as I know, there is going to be little printed
documentation on the Family Search module. There is a limited amount
in Help. Geoff's strategy for training this has been short videos.
You will notice that the Help menu and the top line of FS have links
to watch videos. These should be your first line of understanding the module.

2/ When you set Option 1.11 in Legacy to integrate with FamilySearch,
you are only enabling the ability to link your Family File to the
FamilySearch Tree database. At this point no information has been exchanged.

3/ When you link a person in the Family Search DB with your Family
File, what you are doing is adding the FS ID of the person in the FS
DB to the Family Search ID field for person in your Family File. I
consider this fairly innocuous, as no data is exchanges either way.
The arrows go from gray-gray to become red-red because no information
has been exchanged.

4/ Once you have made a link, you can now add information to the
Family Search tree. As you had to login to use the tree, any
information that you add is now in the tree and credited to you, no
matter if you break the link or not. It is now available for everyone.

5/ If you add information from FS into your Family File, it is added
and does not go away because you broke the link.

6/ There is much more that is done and some of the activities need to
be done on the Family Search web site.

Family Search can be a very powerful addition to your research. And
contributing your information is going to make the FS tree all the
more potent as a research tool.

As I said in a previous message, many serious researchers - I know of
many from the Guild of One Name Studies (London) - who are using
Family Search tree as the place they archive their research.

AND, if you are an LDS member, FM is the site through which you
organize your Temple work.

Please note that Legacy Family Search on L7.5 and L8 is identical.
Major updates to both versions have been released in the last 30
days. And this module is awaiting the next level of certification
which will mean that users will be able to access more functionality
from the Legacy module.

john.


At 08:11 PM 12/1/2013, William Boswell wrote:
>I've done some experimenting with Family Search (not knowing what I
>was doing) by linking and transferring data from Legacy 8 to
>FS.  After I decided I should learn more about it, I deleted all
>those links and noticed the information I added was still on the FS
>website along with my name as the submitter.  I don't mind that, but
>I would think once the link is broken the information I linked to FS
>would disappear.  I prefer to not link and just add, but I am going
>to wait until I learn more.
>
>The FS website doesn't give any information about consequences or
>what linking is all about, or the pitfalls involved.
>
>Bill Boswell
>
>-Original Message-
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>Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] E mail test and customer number
>
>
> The Help File for 7.5 does very little to explain how to
> use Family Search with or without Legacy 7.5.   You learn nothing
> about the consequences of matching, registering/contributing your
> tree, avoiding fostering duplicates, the detailed procedures for
> using it from Legacy,  the rationale and pitfalls of the whole thing.
>
> Sorry to complain but these are issues.  Not sure why we
> had lesser priority than new buyers but glad to know we are still
> somewhere in the queue.
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Not a Duplicate

[John B. Lisle]

Jay,

I am going to have to punt on this one, but I suspect no. Maybe
someone else has a more definitive answer. Of course, it would
require that the RINs had not changed.

It should be kept in the family file as it is very family file
specific. As such it should transfer over, but I do not know...

john.

At 10:05 PM 12/1/2013, Jay 1FamilyTree wrote:
>Can I use my "Not a duplicate" file from Ver 7.5 for my new Ver 8 ?
>
>If so, where was it located and where should it be placed for Ver 8?
>
>Thanks,
>
>Jay




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RE: [LegacyUG] Subscribing

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Email support@legacyfamilytree and ask them to reset your LegacyUG account.

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RE: [LegacyUG] Set Relationships Problem

[Kurt Kneeland]

Current settings: (have not changed from default)

25 Closest Relationships

Show closest Direct Line Relationship, if any

Grand Aunts and Uncles

Closest 2 paths to non-blood relationships



From: Kathy Thompson [mailto:kmthoms...@gmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2013 10:13 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Set Relationships Problem



Which do you have ticked on the Set Relationships window?

Show the closest relationship

or

Show the closest direct-line relationship (if any)

and do you have any numbers in the Blood Relationships limit or the Non-blood 
relationships limit?

might help determine if there is a bug or not





On 2 December 2013 14:04, Kurt Kneeland  wrote:

Noticed another minor problem, this one in Set Relationship.

Wife of Half-brother not being identified as a relation (sister-in-law).  I 
checked 7.5 and it was working there.

Others OK including half-nieces and half-nephews and their spouses.  Husband of 
half-sister identified as brother-in-law OK.

Thanks

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Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2013 9:09 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Opening individual screen with two clicks.

Hello,
Is it still possible to set the settings to open the individual screen with two 
left clicks instead of one?
I cant seem to find the control to set this and would appreciate advice.
Thanks,
 Brian




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RE: [LegacyUG] Source Detail - Detail Information

[Terry L .]

Yes the Detail Information Box. I only get 5 lines. In the Text/Comments I get 
6. In Legacy7.5 you get 7 lines. I will just put in Text/Comments with a note 
in Detail Information.

Thanks!
Terry

From: kurt-kneel...@sbcglobal.net
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Source Detail - Detail Information
Date: Sun, 1 Dec 2013 22:21:31 -0600

I assume you’re referring to the Detail Text (Actual Source Text) box.  I don’t 
really know about the standard edition, but in the deluxe edition there doesn’t 
appear to any limit.  Once you get past what can show in the box, a scroll bar 
appears.  I entered about 50 lines worth and didn’t hit any limit.  If you 
don’t get the scroll bar in Standard, I guess it’s limited to what can fit in 
the box. From: Terry L. [mailto:nemesi...@hotmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2013 8:53 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Source Detail - Detail Information Hi,

I have downloaded Legacy8 standard edition. I am trying to add the text to the 
source detail, but seems there is a limit on how much you can add. Is this 
because I am using the standard edition?

Thanks
Terry

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Re: [LegacyUG] Set Relationships Problem

[Mary LeClerc]

I have  "limit to the closest 5" ,  "show the closest direct line"  and
"limit to the closest 2".

As I said it is working for my half sister with whom I share a mother, but
not for the half siblings with whom I share a father.  That is what strikes
me as really odd.


On Sun, Dec 1, 2013 at 10:18 PM, Mary LeClerc wrote:

> I'm having the same thing happen.  None of the spouses of my half siblings
> via my father  are shown as relatives, however the spouses of their
> children do show up (wives of my half nephews)
>  Interestingly the spouse of my half sister via my mother DOES show as a
> relative.
>
> Mary
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Dec 1, 2013 at 10:04 PM, Kurt Kneeland <
> kurt-kneel...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
>> Noticed another minor problem, this one in Set Relationship.
>>
>> Wife of Half-brother not being identified as a relation (sister-in-law).
>>  I checked 7.5 and it was working there.
>>
>> Others OK including half-nieces and half-nephews and their spouses.
>>  Husband of half-sister identified as brother-in-law OK.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>



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RE: [LegacyUG] Source Detail - Detail Information

[Terry L .]

Thanks Kathy! Just seems so short. I'm only recording 3 people from a passenger 
list. I will put it in Text/Comment. There is an extra line there.

Terry

Date: Mon, 2 Dec 2013 14:08:30 +1000
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Source Detail - Detail Information
From: kmthoms...@gmail.com
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com

There has always been a limit on how much text you can put into the Source 
Detail area.

No-one wants an essay as part of the Citations and Bibliography.

Just put the main things in there and if you have further info to include, put 
it in Text/Comments area and tick those boxes if you want it included in your 
Citations lists.

If you still have more info, are you sure you're using the right area to record 
your data? would some of it be better off included as a fact?



On 2 December 2013 12:53, Terry L.  wrote:




Hi,

I have downloaded Legacy8 standard edition. I am trying to add the text to the 
source detail, but seems there is a limit on how much you can add. Is this 
because I am using the standard edition?


Thanks
Terry



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RE: [LegacyUG] Source Detail - Detail Information

[Kurt Kneeland]

I assume you’re referring to the Detail Text (Actual Source Text) box.  I don’t 
really know about the standard edition, but in the deluxe edition there doesn’t 
appear to any limit.  Once you get past what can show in the box, a scroll bar 
appears.  I entered about 50 lines worth and didn’t hit any limit.  If you 
don’t get the scroll bar in Standard, I guess it’s limited to what can fit in 
the box.



From: Terry L. [mailto:nemesi...@hotmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2013 8:53 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Source Detail - Detail Information



Hi,

I have downloaded Legacy8 standard edition. I am trying to add the text to the 
source detail, but seems there is a limit on how much you can add. Is this 
because I am using the standard edition?

Thanks
Terry



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Re: [LegacyUG] Set Relationships Problem

[Mary LeClerc]

I'm having the same thing happen.  None of the spouses of my half siblings
via my father  are shown as relatives, however the spouses of their
children do show up (wives of my half nephews)
Interestingly the spouse of my half sister via my mother DOES show as a
relative.

Mary




On Sun, Dec 1, 2013 at 10:04 PM, Kurt Kneeland
wrote:

> Noticed another minor problem, this one in Set Relationship.
>
> Wife of Half-brother not being identified as a relation (sister-in-law).
>  I checked 7.5 and it was working there.
>
> Others OK including half-nieces and half-nephews and their spouses.
>  Husband of half-sister identified as brother-in-law OK.
>
> Thanks
>
>
>
>
>



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Re: [LegacyUG] Set Relationships Problem

[Kathy Thompson]

Which do you have ticked on the Set Relationships window?

Show the closest relationship
or
Show the closest direct-line relationship (if any)

and do you have any numbers in the Blood Relationships limit or the
Non-blood relationships limit?

might help determine if there is a bug or not



On 2 December 2013 14:04, Kurt Kneeland  wrote:

> Noticed another minor problem, this one in Set Relationship.
>
> Wife of Half-brother not being identified as a relation (sister-in-law).
>  I checked 7.5 and it was working there.
>
> Others OK including half-nieces and half-nephews and their spouses.
>  Husband of half-sister identified as brother-in-law OK.
>
> Thanks
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Brian [mailto:blr...@optonline.net]
> Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2013 9:09 PM
> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Subject: [LegacyUG] Opening individual screen with two clicks.
>
> Hello,
> Is it still possible to set the settings to open the individual screen
> with two left clicks instead of one?
> I cant seem to find the control to set this and would appreciate advice.
> Thanks,
>  Brian
>
>
>
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Source Detail - Detail Information

[Kathy Thompson]

There has always been a limit on how much text you can put into the Source
Detail area.
No-one wants an essay as part of the Citations and Bibliography.

Just put the main things in there and if you have further info to include,
put it in Text/Comments area and tick those boxes if you want it included
in your Citations lists.
If you still have more info, are you sure you're using the right area to
record your data? would some of it be better off included as a fact?


On 2 December 2013 12:53, Terry L.  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I have downloaded Legacy8 standard edition. I am trying to add the text to
> the source detail, but seems there is a limit on how much you can add. Is
> this because I am using the standard edition?
>
> Thanks
> Terry
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RE: [LegacyUG] V8 media and ?Mac conversion usage questions

[Pam Gosling]

Thanks Sherry for understanding my typos. . .?!  I think I picked the wrong 
time to ask my questions, and too many at once. .. I have lots to learn about 
all this tech stuff. . .. . . I sure hope the commotion on this list will die 
down soon. . . .my Comcast email on the computer (not online) doesn't give any 
titles of subject so having to weed through all the irregularly ordered 
topics/responses takes quite a bit of time. . .and you must be a very patient 
person to stay with all this. . !!  Wishing you a wonderful day, Pam

-Original Message-
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Sent: Saturday, November 30, 2013 6:12 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] V8 media and ?Mac conversion usage questions

Pam,

I'm not a Mac user so I can't answer most of your questions, but it seems to me 
that if you can get a copy of Windows 7, that would be the preferred Windows 
version if you get Parallels, Fusion or Bootcamp.

WINE and Crossover XI don't need Windows installed.  Crossover is the 
"supported" version of WINE - WINE is free..


Sincerely,
Sherry
Technical Support
Legacy Family Tree


On Sat, Nov 30, 2013 at 6:03 PM, Pam Gosling  wrote:

>
>
> 5.   What about Windows * and Legacy? Any issues to consider? I have
> Windows 7 now and would preferably like to stick with that however . . .
> .choices??



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[LegacyUG] Set Relationships Problem

[Kurt Kneeland]

Noticed another minor problem, this one in Set Relationship.

Wife of Half-brother not being identified as a relation (sister-in-law).  I 
checked 7.5 and it was working there.

Others OK including half-nieces and half-nephews and their spouses.  Husband of 
half-sister identified as brother-in-law OK.

Thanks

-Original Message-
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To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Opening individual screen with two clicks.

Hello,
Is it still possible to set the settings to open the individual screen with two 
left clicks instead of one?
I cant seem to find the control to set this and would appreciate advice.
Thanks,
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RE: [LegacyUG] Subscription Test

[Terry L .]

Thanks Kurt! I have been getting emails from the group. I had asked a question 
3 times with no response. Thought my emails were not getting through.

Terry

From: kurt-kneel...@sbcglobal.net
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Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Subscription Test
Date: Sun, 1 Dec 2013 21:41:15 -0600

Your emails are getting to LegacyUG.  If you are not getting any emails from 
the group, send an email to support@legacyfamilytree and request they reset 
your account. From: Terry L. [mailto:nemesi...@hotmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2013 9:30 PM
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Subject: [LegacyUG] Subscription Test Just testing to see if this is reaching 
the groupl. I have sent 3 emails asking for help.

Terry

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RE: [LegacyUG] Subscription Test

[Kurt Kneeland]

Your emails are getting to LegacyUG.  If you are not getting any emails from 
the group, send an email to support@legacyfamilytree and request they reset 
your account.



From: Terry L. [mailto:nemesi...@hotmail.com]
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Just testing to see if this is reaching the groupl. I have sent 3 emails asking 
for help.

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[LegacyUG] Subscription Test

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Just testing to see if this is reaching the groupl. I have sent 3 emails asking 
for help.

Terry



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[LegacyUG] Opening individual screen with two clicks.

[Brian]

Hello,
Is it still possible to set the settings to open the individual screen
with two left clicks instead of one?
I cant seem to find the control to set this and would appreciate advice.
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Re: [LegacyUG] Syncing with Families

[Sue Law]

MapMyFamilyTree and Gensmarts don't like L8 either.

Sue





On Monday, 2 December 2013 10:23 AM, John B. Lisle  wrote:

Paul, Judith et al,

Another "sync" problem is with Family Tree Maker 2014. Last
time I tried, it did not yet have the ability to read L8 files. This says
that the GenBridge technology from Whollygenes (The Master Genealogist)
that FTM uses is not available for L8 yet.

Several vendors of 3rd party products did work with Millennia during the
test process and their tools should be available now or shortly to
support L8. You will need to contact each vendor for their
details.

john.


At 03:53 PM 12/1/2013, Paul Gray wrote:

There a post on the TelGen board
that says they are working on an update to Families Sync to support the
new Legacy file format, expected out by end of December, So for now, we
are out of luck. I wonder if this is an issue with other âcompanionâ
programs that directly read Legacy files?
> 
>Paul Gray
> 
>From: Judith
[mailto:judithsfamilyt...@gmail.com]
>Sent: December-01-13 1:38 PM
>To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
>Subject: [LegacyUG] Syncing with Families
> 
>Hello:  Hereâs a new one, I think… when I tried to sync with the
program âFamiliessâ I get the message âThis database version is not
supportedâ.  I clicked on convert to SQlite file, and the same
message came up.  Any thoughts?
>Judith

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[LegacyUG] Not a Duplicate

[Jay 1FamilyTree]

Can I use my "Not a duplicate" file from Ver 7.5 for my new Ver 8 ?

If so, where was it located and where should it be placed for Ver 8?

Thanks,

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RE: [LegacyUG] Syncing with Families

[Judith]

Thank you, good to know.
Judith

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Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2013 7:01 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Syncing with Families

The programmer will be getting those updated.


Sincerely,
Sherry
Technical Support
Legacy Family Tree


On Sun, Dec 1, 2013 at 6:48 PM, Judith  wrote:
> Sorry, typo…Does that include GenSmart, GenMatcher and Genelines?
> None of these work with Legacy 8 family files.
>
> Judith




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Re: [LegacyUG] Syncing with Families

[Sherry/Support]

The programmer will be getting those updated.


Sincerely,
Sherry
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> Sorry, typo…Does that include GenSmart, GenMatcher and Genelines?  None of
> these work with Legacy 8 family files.
>
> Judith
>



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[LegacyUG] Source Detail - Detail Information

[Terry L .]

Hi,

I have downloaded Legacy8 standard edition. I am trying to add the text to the 
source detail, but seems there is a limit on how much you can add. Is this 
because I am using the standard edition?

Thanks
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RE: [LegacyUG] Syncing with Families

[Judith]

Sorry, typo…Does that include GenSmart, GenMatcher and Genelines?  None of 
these work with Legacy 8 family files.

Judith



From: John B. Lisle [mailto:leg...@tqsi.com]
Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2013 2:48 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Syncing with Families



Paul, Judith et al,

Another "sync" problem is with Family Tree Maker 2014. Last time I tried, it 
did not yet have the ability to read L8 files. This says that the GenBridge 
technology from Whollygenes (The Master Genealogist) that FTM uses is not 
available for L8 yet.

Several vendors of 3rd party products did work with Millennia during the test 
process and their tools should be available now or shortly to support L8. You 
will need to contact each vendor for their details.

john.

At 03:53 PM 12/1/2013, Paul Gray wrote:

There a post on the TelGen board that says they are working on an update to 
Families Sync to support the new Legacy file format, expected out by end of 
December, So for now, we are out of luck. I wonder if this is an issue with 
other ‘companion’ programs that directly read Legacy files?

Paul Gray

Hello:  Here’s a new one, I think… when I tried to sync with the program 
‘Familiess’ I get the message “This database version is not supported”. 
 I clicked on convert to SQlite file, and the same message came up.  Any 
thoughts?
Judith



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RE: [LegacyUG] Syncing with Families

[Judith]

Does that include GenSmart, GenMatcher and Genelines?  None of these work with 
Legacy & family files.

Judith



From: John B. Lisle [mailto:leg...@tqsi.com]
Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2013 2:48 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Syncing with Families



Paul, Judith et al,

Another "sync" problem is with Family Tree Maker 2014. Last time I tried, it 
did not yet have the ability to read L8 files. This says that the GenBridge 
technology from Whollygenes (The Master Genealogist) that FTM uses is not 
available for L8 yet.

Several vendors of 3rd party products did work with Millennia during the test 
process and their tools should be available now or shortly to support L8. You 
will need to contact each vendor for their details.

john.

At 03:53 PM 12/1/2013, Paul Gray wrote:



There a post on the TelGen board that says they are working on an update to 
Families Sync to support the new Legacy file format, expected out by end of 
December, So for now, we are out of luck. I wonder if this is an issue with 
other ‘companion’ programs that directly read Legacy files?

Paul Gray

Hello:  Here’s a new one, I think… when I tried to sync with the program 
‘Familiess’ I get the message “This database version is not supported”. 
 I clicked on convert to SQlite file, and the same message came up.  Any 
thoughts?
Judith




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RE: [LegacyUG] Favorite Option

[Kurt Kneeland]

UnknownName.txt is working pretty well for me, but I still get error flags on 
women whose husbands have the excluded surnames.  I don’t generate index 
entries for the ladies’ married names.  Only PP is trying to generate these 
names and then flagging them, apparently without regard to UnknownName.txt.



From: John B. Lisle [mailto:leg...@tqsi.com]
Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2013 7:03 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Favorite Option



Jay,

1/ I do not know if the fields are case dependent. Please try and share with us 
;-)

2/ I do not think it has a comments line capability.

3/ Yes, this file is read what Legacy starts because it is needed when FV is 
displayed. I do not have a problem with this.

4/ This is what I use:

[--?--] Miss Mister Daughter Son Child Infant Baby
[--?--]

john.

At 07:23 PM 12/1/2013, Jay 1FamilyTree wrote:



John,Â

The Help text is not total clear on the UnknownName.txt  requirements...Â

the example shows

Child ???

[--?--] NN ???

so does that mean then in a given name field with only the text "Child" or 
"???" Â will be ignored when creating potential problems? Â
Does capitalization matter?? Â  Â  what if its "child" ?

Will this text file allow for 'comments' ?
Like Â

#Given names
Child ???
#Surnames  Â
[--?--]

Just most of us do not automatically know how to do these type customizations! 
   But yet another reason why Legacy is so great!Â

Thanks
JayÂ







Could you or someone provide an example of the contents of unknownname.txt ?









On Sun, Dec 1, 2013 at 3:56 PM, Kurt Kneeland < kurt-kneel...@sbcglobal.net 
 > wrote:

Great tip on the UnknownName.txt file.  I’ve also seen mention of .txt files 
for customizing the GeoCodes data.  Are there any other of these little know 
customization techniques?

Â

From: John B. Lisle [ mailto:leg...@tqsi.com  ]

Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2013 4:41 PM

To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com

Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Favorite Option

Â

C G, Randy, et al,

When we first got to testing the PP Alerts, I felt the same way you are 
feeling. Today, the number of PP Alerts that pop up incorrectly - as determined 
by your settings - is very small. And when they happen, tell us about them so 
that the developers can look into them and get them fixed.

There are two activities you can do that can significantly reduce your "false 
alarms".

1/ If you have various naming conventions for unknown given and surnames, you 
can list those in a file called UnknownName.txt. Help has the details. This 
allows you to still find problems in names but exclude the bulk of the names 
that you expect to not conform to "standards".

2/ The NEW category for Potential Problems called "Gaps" are going to drive 
many people wild. I think you need to adjust your use of those Gap settings. 
Please note that the settings for the Potential Problems Report determine what 
types of problems you want Alerts for. You can set the Gaps settings there for 
different time periods, or just turn those settings off, if you choose not to 
worry about those settings. I know I have fiddled with those to suit the needs 
of my family files.

These instant PP Alerts are one of the great benefits of L8 as they alert you 
while you are entering data if you have entered something that does not make 
sense.

And, as mentioned by someone else, the ability to know when you add a new 
person that the person may be a duplicate of someone already in your file, can 
save you a ton of work.

L8 is going to change the way you do research and lots of folks do not like to 
change their habits. In the long run, these features will promote your research 
to being more accurate and better respected.

Just my opinion... I could be wrong...

john.

At 03:31 PM 12/1/2013, C.G. Ouimet wrote:

Especially since many of the problems are really false alarms … Too many fallse 
alarms leads to ignoring real ones …

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C.G. Ouimet

Kingston ON

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Subject: [LegacyUG] Favorite Option

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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy now adds a period after the day of the month.

[Darryl Bonk]

Thanks Kurt




 From: Kurt Kneeland 
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Sunday, December 1, 2013 8:43 PM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy now adds a period after the day of the month.



Option 5.2, select Full Month Name.
 
From:Darryl Bonk [mailto:darryl_b...@yahoo.com]
Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2013 7:20 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy now adds a period after the day of the month.
 
That option is not on my list of Legacy date options I have 
 
"Nov 21, 1953" 
"21. Nov 1953"  
"11-21-1953" 
"1953-11-21" 
no option for "21 November 1953"
no option for "21 Nov 1953"
 
 
 



From:Kurt Kneeland 
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Sunday, December 1, 2013 8:13 PM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy now adds a period after the day of the month.
 
The Family Search Family Tree date “standard” is actually 21 November 1953 
(full month name), which is what I have my Legacy set to.
 
From:Darryl Bonk [mailto:darryl_b...@yahoo.com]
Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2013 6:12 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy now adds a period after the day of the month.
 
I just updated Legacy and it removed all the modfied settings and reinstated 
the "21. Nov 1953" option after changing it before the update.  I hope the 
Legacy restore the standard format "21 Nov 1953 to be inline with Ancestry and 
Family Search as I used it and encouraged it for 40 years in genealogy and now 
its gone. The period addition I hope is just a programming issue that will be 
resolved in a future update.
 
I do appreciate the new Search the Internet option with the drop down list of 
searchable website.  I was always hoping to be able to select easier the 
website searches.
 
Darryl
 
 
 



From:Wendy Howard 
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Sunday, December 1, 2013 6:58 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy now adds a period after the day of the month.

Hi Darryl,

"the old format which is standard "21 Nov 1953" is not option anymore on
the program"

That's odd, it's exactly what I selected when I was reviewing the
options, and have it set now.

On my screen, looking at Customise 5.1, it's the second option in the
left-hand column, below "Nov 21, 1953".  That's a comma, not a full
stop/period.

If you're seeing different options, perhaps it is influenced by the
language set when you first opened Legacy v8 - I selected English
(Australia), since I'm in New Zealand and it's the closest to what I use
in everyday language.  You can change the language option via the ribbon
- Option > Select Language.

"gbl" means "global", I expect.  As in, this setting is a global one,
and will affect every family file (ff) you open.  A setting that
indicates it is (ff) only affects the family file you have open at the
time you set that option.  I really like that Legacy now tells us this
information.

Hope this helps.  :-)

Kind Regards,
Wendy

Darryl Bonk said the following on 2/12/2013 12:38 p.m.:
> Seems unusual that the default would be with a period after the day of
> the month "21. Nov 1953"  and the old format which is standard "21 Nov
> 1953" is not option anymore on the program.  Hope this will be restore
> with a new update, as "21. Nov 1953"  is not as far as I know is
> useful or standard.  Is there a reason for the "21. Nov 1953" format.
>  Ancestry and FamilySearch use the old format.  What does "gbl" stand
> for?  I see it throughout the program.
>
> Thanks for your help.
>
> Darryl




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RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy now adds a period after the day of the month.

[Kurt Kneeland]

You meant 5.1 and 5.2?



From: Ed Carpenter [mailto:e...@lvcs.net]
Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2013 7:25 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy now adds a period after the day of the month.



The option for "21 Nov 1953" appears when you uncheck the "Format day with 
period" checkbox in item 8.1

To get the full month, click the "Full month name" option in item 8.2



On Sun, Dec 1, 2013 at 8:20 PM, Darryl Bonk  wrote:

That option is not on my list of Legacy date options I have



"Nov 21, 1953"

"21. Nov 1953"

"11-21-1953"

"1953-11-21"

no option for "21 November 1953"

no option for "21 Nov 1953"







  _

From: Kurt Kneeland 
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Sunday, December 1, 2013 8:13 PM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy now adds a period after the day of the month.



The Family Search Family Tree date “standard” is actually 21 November 1953 
(full month name), which is what I have my Legacy set to.



From: Darryl Bonk [mailto:darryl_b...@yahoo.com]

Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2013 6:12 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com

Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy now adds a period after the day of the month.



I just updated Legacy and it removed all the modfied settings and reinstated 
the "21. Nov 1953" option after changing it before the update.  I hope the 
Legacy restore the standard format "21 Nov 1953 to be inline with Ancestry and 
Family Search as I used it and encouraged it for 40 years in genealogy and now 
its gone. The period addition I hope is just a programming issue that will be 
resolved in a future update.



I do appreciate the new Search the Internet option with the drop down list of 
searchable website.  I was always hoping to be able to select easier the 
website searches.



Darryl







  _

From: Wendy Howard 
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Sunday, December 1, 2013 6:58 PM


Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy now adds a period after the day of the month.



Hi Darryl,

"the old format which is standard "21 Nov 1953" is not option anymore on
the program"

That's odd, it's exactly what I selected when I was reviewing the
options, and have it set now.

On my screen, looking at Customise 5.1, it's the second option in the
left-hand column, below "Nov 21, 1953".  That's a comma, not a full
stop/period.

If you're seeing different options, perhaps it is influenced by the
language set when you first opened Legacy v8 - I selected English
(Australia), since I'm in New Zealand and it's the closest to what I use
in everyday language.  You can change the language option via the ribbon
- Option > Select Language.

"gbl" means "global", I expect.  As in, this setting is a global one,
and will affect every family file (ff) you open.  A setting that
indicates it is (ff) only affects the family file you have open at the
time you set that option.  I really like that Legacy now tells us this
information.

Hope this helps.  :-)

Kind Regards,
Wendy

Darryl Bonk said the following on 2/12/2013 12:38 p.m.:
> Seems unusual that the default would be with a period after the day of
> the month "21. Nov 1953"  and the old format which is standard "21 Nov
> 1953" is not option anymore on the program.  Hope this will be restore
> with a new update, as "21. Nov 1953"  is not as far as I know is
> useful or standard.  Is there a reason for the "21. Nov 1953" format.
>  Ancestry and FamilySearch use the old format.  What does "gbl" stand
> for?  I see it throughout the program.
>
> Thanks for your help.
>
> Darryl






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RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy now adds a period after the day of the month.

[Kurt Kneeland]

Option 5.2, select Full Month Name.



From: Darryl Bonk [mailto:darryl_b...@yahoo.com]
Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2013 7:20 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy now adds a period after the day of the month.



That option is not on my list of Legacy date options I have



"Nov 21, 1953"

"21. Nov 1953"

"11-21-1953"

"1953-11-21"

no option for "21 November 1953"

no option for "21 Nov 1953"







  _

From: Kurt Kneeland 
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Sunday, December 1, 2013 8:13 PM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy now adds a period after the day of the month.



The Family Search Family Tree date “standard” is actually 21 November 1953 
(full month name), which is what I have my Legacy set to.



From: Darryl Bonk [mailto:darryl_b...@yahoo.com]
Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2013 6:12 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy now adds a period after the day of the month.



I just updated Legacy and it removed all the modfied settings and reinstated 
the "21. Nov 1953" option after changing it before the update.  I hope the 
Legacy restore the standard format "21 Nov 1953 to be inline with Ancestry and 
Family Search as I used it and encouraged it for 40 years in genealogy and now 
its gone. The period addition I hope is just a programming issue that will be 
resolved in a future update.



I do appreciate the new Search the Internet option with the drop down list of 
searchable website.  I was always hoping to be able to select easier the 
website searches.



Darryl







  _

From: Wendy Howard 
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Sunday, December 1, 2013 6:58 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy now adds a period after the day of the month.


Hi Darryl,

"the old format which is standard "21 Nov 1953" is not option anymore on
the program"

That's odd, it's exactly what I selected when I was reviewing the
options, and have it set now.

On my screen, looking at Customise 5.1, it's the second option in the
left-hand column, below "Nov 21, 1953".  That's a comma, not a full
stop/period.

If you're seeing different options, perhaps it is influenced by the
language set when you first opened Legacy v8 - I selected English
(Australia), since I'm in New Zealand and it's the closest to what I use
in everyday language.  You can change the language option via the ribbon
- Option > Select Language.

"gbl" means "global", I expect.  As in, this setting is a global one,
and will affect every family file (ff) you open.  A setting that
indicates it is (ff) only affects the family file you have open at the
time you set that option.  I really like that Legacy now tells us this
information.

Hope this helps.  :-)

Kind Regards,
Wendy

Darryl Bonk said the following on 2/12/2013 12:38 p.m.:
> Seems unusual that the default would be with a period after the day of
> the month "21. Nov 1953"  and the old format which is standard "21 Nov
> 1953" is not option anymore on the program.  Hope this will be restore
> with a new update, as "21. Nov 1953"  is not as far as I know is
> useful or standard.  Is there a reason for the "21. Nov 1953" format.
>  Ancestry and FamilySearch use the old format.  What does "gbl" stand
> for?  I see it throughout the program.
>
> Thanks for your help.
>
> Darryl





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Re: [LegacyUG] Thank You

[Mary LeClerc]

Couldn't agree more.  I wouldn't dream of using anything but Legacy. Their
customer service is amazing from initial design through support.  Thank you.


On Sun, Dec 1, 2013 at 7:25 PM, Jackie King  wrote:

> And don't forget it has all happened over a holiday weekend here in the
> U.S. (and thanks to you volunteers outside of the U.S. as well.) My
> experience with other programs and websites is you wait for the holiday
> weekend to be over.
>
> I have also not experienced any major glitches but the one minor one I
> found, I found the answer on the list before I could even ask.
>
> My compliments to all involved - and this from someone who used to work
> for a software company. This has been beyond expectations.
>
> Jackie
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RE: [LegacyUG] export gives different number of persons

[Kurt Kneeland]

I ran an export and my counts for individuals and families matched exactly.

Check your Export Privacy Options.  If you have Private/Invisible individuals, 
marriages, events, etc., they won't be exported unless you select the 
applicable options.  There's also an option at bottom of the privacy options 
list that controls whether your privacy option selections are remembered for 
future exports.

-Original Message-
From: porter [mailto:porterrockw...@q.com]
Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2013 6:42 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] export gives different number of persons

I noticed that also.

Porter

-Original Message-
From: Rose Hatten [mailto:rmhat...@gmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2013 5:07 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] export gives different number of persons

I tried to export my data, first to a GEDCOM, and second to a new Legacy file.  
Before doing the export, I did a check/repair and a compacting of the file. I 
exported all individuals in the file.

The numbers in the export are not the same as reported in the General 
Information screen.  The database shows 2492 persons, the exports, both to 
GEDCOM and Legacy, show 2348.  The numbers on master events, media items, 
repositories, event addresses, master sources, locations are all different from 
database to export.

Does anyone know what would account for these differences?  Losing almost 150 
people when exporting is distressing.  How can I reliably get my data exported 
from Legacy?

Rose
BTW, thanks for the answers to my question on the ribbon.  I know I can hide 
it.  What I want to do is kill it. It doesn't sound like that will be possible.



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Re: [LegacyUG] edit child

[2marion wimps]

Is there a chance we can get this back again? Having the single and double
click removed and the hovering action moved is very aggravating - there
also seems no easy way to view each child of a parent as you used to - when
you click on the child it automatically pops up to the main screen in
Family View.
Marion


On 2 December 2013 00:40, Bert van Kootwijk  wrote:

> No missed setting. This feature is removed.
>
> Bert
>
> Rose Hatten schreef op 1-12-2013 17:22:
> > In v 7, I could edit a child by hovering, and having a box pop up with
> the
> > editing option.  That isn't working for me in version 8.  Does anyone
> > know what setting I may have missed?
> >
> > Rose
> >
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Re: [LegacyUG] Favorite Option

[John B. Lisle]

Jay,
1/ I do not know if the fields are case dependent. Please try and share
with us ;-)
2/ I do not think it has a comments line capability.
3/ Yes, this file is read what Legacy starts because it is needed when FV
is displayed. I do not have a problem with this.
4/ This is what I use:
[--?--] Miss Mister Daughter Son Child Infant Baby
[--?--]
john.
At 07:23 PM 12/1/2013, Jay 1FamilyTree wrote:
John, 
The Help text is not total clear on the UnknownName.txt Â
requirements... 
the example shows
Child ???

[--?--] NN ???

so does that mean then in a given name field with only the text
"Child" or "???" Â will be ignored when creating
potential problems? Â 
Does capitalization matter??     what if its
"child" ?
Will this text file allow for 'comments' ?
Like  
#Given names
Child ???
#Surnames   
[--?--]
Just most of us do not automatically know how to do these type
customizations!    But yet another reason why Legacy is so great!Â

Thanks
Jay 




Could you or someone provide an example of the contents of
unknownname.txt ?




On Sun, Dec 1, 2013 at 3:56 PM, Kurt Kneeland
<
kurt-kneel...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:



Great tip on the UnknownName.txt file.  I’ve also seen
mention of .txt files for customizing the GeoCodes data.  Are there
any other of these little know customization techniques?

 

From: John B. Lisle
[
mailto:leg...@tqsi.com] 

Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2013 4:41 PM

To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com

Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Favorite Option

 

C G, Randy, et al,

When we first got to testing the PP Alerts, I felt the same way you
are feeling. Today, the number of PP Alerts that pop up incorrectly - as
determined by your settings - is very small. And when they happen, tell
us about them so that the developers can look into them and get them
fixed.

There are two activities you can do that can significantly reduce
your "false alarms".

1/ If you have various naming conventions for unknown given and
surnames, you can list those in a file called UnknownName.txt. Help has
the details. This allows you to still find problems in names but exclude
the bulk of the names that you expect to not conform to
"standards".

2/ The NEW category for Potential Problems called "Gaps"
are going to drive many people wild. I think you need to adjust your use
of those Gap settings. Please note that the settings for the Potential
Problems Report determine what types of problems you want Alerts for. You
can set the Gaps settings there for different time periods, or just turn
those settings off, if you choose not to worry about those settings. I
know I have fiddled with those to suit the needs of my family
files.

These instant PP Alerts are one of the great benefits of L8 as they
alert you while you are entering data if you have entered something that
does not make sense.

And, as mentioned by someone else, the ability to know when you add a
new person that the person may be a duplicate of someone already in your
file, can save you a ton of work.

L8 is going to change the way you do research and lots of folks do
not like to change their habits. In the long run, these features will
promote your research to being more accurate and better
respected.

Just my opinion... I could be wrong...

john.

At 03:31 PM 12/1/2013, C.G. Ouimet wrote:

Especially since many of the problems are really false alarms … Too
many fallse alarms leads to ignoring real ones …

 

 

C.G. Ouimet

Kingston ON

 

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Sent: December 01, 2013 03:22 PM

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Subject: [LegacyUG] Favorite Option

 

I love Option 8.11 as it lets me turn off those annoying warning
symbols.


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RE: [LegacyUG] E mail test and customer number

[Paul Gray]

Hi Bill,

I think you misunderstand what 'link' means. All that happens when you link is 
that you tell Legacy that your person (RIN12345) is a certain person ID (eg 
LX-1234) on Family Search. Nothing more. This is recorded in Legacy only.

Then, when you are in Legacy Family Search (share data tab) you have both the 
Legacy file open (on the left side) and the Family Search file open (on the 
right). If you share Legacy data with Family search, you are actually writing 
to Family Search just as if you were signed on to their Family Tree web app.

Hope this helps..

Paul





-Original Message-
From: William Boswell [mailto:whbosw...@gmail.com]
Sent: December-01-13 6:12 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] E mail test and customer number

I've done some experimenting with Family Search (not knowing what I was doing) 
by linking and transferring data from Legacy 8 to FS.  After I decided I should 
learn more about it, I deleted all those links and noticed the information I 
added was still on the FS website along with my name as the submitter.  I don't 
mind that, but I would think once the link is broken the information I linked 
to FS would disappear.  I prefer to not link and just add, but I am going to 
wait until I learn more.

The FS website doesn't give any information about consequences or what linking 
is all about, or the pitfalls involved.

Bill Boswell

-Original Message-
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Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2013 7:58 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] E mail test and customer number


The Help File for 7.5 does very little to explain how to use Family 
Search with or without Legacy 7.5.   You learn nothing about the consequences 
of matching, registering/contributing your tree, avoiding fostering duplicates, 
the detailed procedures for using it from Legacy,  the rationale and pitfalls 
of the whole thing.

Sorry to complain but these are issues.  Not sure why we had lesser 
priority than new buyers but glad to know we are still somewhere in the queue.






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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy now adds a period after the day of the month.

[Ed Carpenter]

Sorry, this of course should have said 5.1 and 5.2


On Sun, Dec 1, 2013 at 8:24 PM, Ed Carpenter  wrote:

> The option for "21 Nov 1953" appears when you uncheck the "Format day with
> period" checkbox in item 8.1
> To get the full month, click the "Full month name" option in item 8.2
>
>
> On Sun, Dec 1, 2013 at 8:20 PM, Darryl Bonk  wrote:
>
>> That option is not on my list of Legacy date options I have
>>
>> "Nov 21, 1953"
>> "21. Nov 1953"
>> "11-21-1953"
>> "1953-11-21"
>> no option for "21 November 1953"
>> no option for "21 Nov 1953"
>>
>>
>>
>>   --
>>  *From:* Kurt Kneeland 
>> *To:* LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
>> *Sent:* Sunday, December 1, 2013 8:13 PM
>> *Subject:* RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy now adds a period after the day of the
>> month.
>>
>> The Family Search Family Tree date “standard” is actually 21 November
>> 1953 (full month name), which is what I have my Legacy set to.
>>
>> *From:* Darryl Bonk [mailto:darryl_b...@yahoo.com]
>> *Sent:* Sunday, December 01, 2013 6:12 PM
>> *To:* LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy now adds a period after the day of the
>> month.
>>
>> I just updated Legacy and it removed all the modfied settings and
>> reinstated the "21. Nov 1953" option after changing it before the update.
>>  I hope the Legacy restore the standard format "21 Nov 1953 to be inline
>> with Ancestry and Family Search as I used it and encouraged it for 40 years
>> in genealogy and now its gone. The period addition I hope is just a
>> programming issue that will be resolved in a future update.
>>
>> I do appreciate the new Search the Internet option with the drop down
>> list of searchable website.  I was always hoping to be able to select
>> easier the website searches.
>>
>> Darryl
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>>



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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy now adds a period after the day of the month.

[Ed Carpenter]

The option for "21 Nov 1953" appears when you uncheck the "Format day with
period" checkbox in item 8.1
To get the full month, click the "Full month name" option in item 8.2


On Sun, Dec 1, 2013 at 8:20 PM, Darryl Bonk  wrote:

> That option is not on my list of Legacy date options I have
>
> "Nov 21, 1953"
> "21. Nov 1953"
> "11-21-1953"
> "1953-11-21"
> no option for "21 November 1953"
> no option for "21 Nov 1953"
>
>
>
>   --
>  *From:* Kurt Kneeland 
> *To:* LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> *Sent:* Sunday, December 1, 2013 8:13 PM
> *Subject:* RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy now adds a period after the day of the
> month.
>
> The Family Search Family Tree date “standard” is actually 21 November 1953
> (full month name), which is what I have my Legacy set to.
>
> *From:* Darryl Bonk [mailto:darryl_b...@yahoo.com]
> *Sent:* Sunday, December 01, 2013 6:12 PM
> *To:* LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy now adds a period after the day of the
> month.
>
> I just updated Legacy and it removed all the modfied settings and
> reinstated the "21. Nov 1953" option after changing it before the update.
>  I hope the Legacy restore the standard format "21 Nov 1953 to be inline
> with Ancestry and Family Search as I used it and encouraged it for 40 years
> in genealogy and now its gone. The period addition I hope is just a
> programming issue that will be resolved in a future update.
>
> I do appreciate the new Search the Internet option with the drop down list
> of searchable website.  I was always hoping to be able to select easier the
> website searches.
>
> Darryl
>
>
>
> --
> *From:* Wendy Howard 
> *To:* LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> *Sent:* Sunday, December 1, 2013 6:58 PM
>
> *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy now adds a period after the day of the
> month.
>
> Hi Darryl,
>
> "the old format which is standard "21 Nov 1953" is not option anymore on
> the program"
>
> That's odd, it's exactly what I selected when I was reviewing the
> options, and have it set now.
>
> On my screen, looking at Customise 5.1, it's the second option in the
> left-hand column, below "Nov 21, 1953".  That's a comma, not a full
> stop/period.
>
> If you're seeing different options, perhaps it is influenced by the
> language set when you first opened Legacy v8 - I selected English
> (Australia), since I'm in New Zealand and it's the closest to what I use
> in everyday language.  You can change the language option via the ribbon
> - Option > Select Language.
>
> "gbl" means "global", I expect.  As in, this setting is a global one,
> and will affect every family file (ff) you open.  A setting that
> indicates it is (ff) only affects the family file you have open at the
> time you set that option.  I really like that Legacy now tells us this
> information.
>
> Hope this helps.  :-)
>
> Kind Regards,
> Wendy
>
> Darryl Bonk said the following on 2/12/2013 12:38 p.m.:
> > Seems unusual that the default would be with a period after the day of
> > the month "21. Nov 1953"  and the old format which is standard "21 Nov
> > 1953" is not option anymore on the program.  Hope this will be restore
> > with a new update, as "21. Nov 1953"  is not as far as I know is
> > useful or standard.  Is there a reason for the "21. Nov 1953" format.
> >  Ancestry and FamilySearch use the old format.  What does "gbl" stand
> > for?  I see it throughout the program.
> >
> > Thanks for your help.
> >
> > Darryl
>
>
>
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Thank You

[Jackie King]

And don't forget it has all happened over a holiday weekend here in the
U.S. (and thanks to you volunteers outside of the U.S. as well.) My
experience with other programs and websites is you wait for the holiday
weekend to be over.

I have also not experienced any major glitches but the one minor one I
found, I found the answer on the list before I could even ask.

My compliments to all involved - and this from someone who used to work for
a software company. This has been beyond expectations.

Jackie


On Sun, Dec 1, 2013 at 7:15 PM, William Boswell  wrote:

> They've even given us two updates already.  Personally I think it is much
> better than 7.5.
>
> Bill Boswell
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Marnie Oakes [mailto:marnie.oa...@verizon.net]
> Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2013 7:12 PM
> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Subject: [LegacyUG] Thank You
>
> A huge thank you to the Legacy support staff AND the volunteers who have
> now spent days helping
> users understand Legacy 8.   I haven't had problems, but the answers
> these dedicated folks have
> provided have helped me understand the program in ways I would never found
> on my own.  The willingness of testers to jump into the frying pan of
> expectations, disappointments, and frustrations speaks well of the Legacy
> community.
>
> THANK YOU!!!
>
> Marnie Oakes
>
>
>
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Thank You

[Ron Bernier]

On Sun, Dec 1, 2013 at 7:11 PM, Marnie Oakes wrote:

> A huge thank you to the Legacy support staff AND the volunteers who have
> now spent days helping
> users understand Legacy 8.   I haven't had problems, but the answers
> these dedicated folks have
> provided have helped me understand the program in ways I would never
> found on my own.  The
> willingness of testers to jump into the frying pan of expectations,
> disappointments, and
> frustrations speaks well of the Legacy community.
>
> THANK YOU!!!
>
> Marnie Oakes
>

I couldn't agree more Marnie.  A few days ago, I said a big thank you to
the programmers for the great new design of Legacy 8, but I was remiss in
not thanking the testers also.  The testers are the ones who put the
program through it's paces and gave the programmers the feedback for not
only the things that weren't working correctly, but also suggestions on how
to make the program function even better.

Ron Bernier
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Re: Re[2]: [LegacyUG] Legacy now adds a period after the day of the month.

[Darryl Bonk]

Thanks



 From: William Boswell 
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Sunday, December 1, 2013 8:14 PM
Subject: RE: Re[2]: [LegacyUG] Legacy now adds a period after the day of the 
month.



5.1 Dates Displayed as (gbl)
Format day with period (don't check the box)
 
From:Laurence E Stephenson [mailto:laurencestephen...@gmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2013 8:09 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re[2]: [LegacyUG] Legacy now adds a period after the day of the month.
 
It's a user setting not a program problem
 
-- Original Message --
From: "Darryl Bonk" 
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com
Sent: 2/12/2013 11:12:28 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy now adds a period after the day of the month.
I just updated Legacy and it removed all the modfied settings and reinstated 
the "21. Nov 1953" option after changing it before the update.  I hope the 
Legacy restore the standard format "21 Nov 1953 to be inline with Ancestry and 
Family Search as I used it and encouraged it for 40 years in genealogy and now 
its gone. The period addition I hope is just a programming issue that will be 
resolved in a future update.
> 
>I do appreciate the new Search the Internet option with the drop down list of 
>searchable website.  I was always hoping to be able to select easier the 
>website searches.
> 
>Darryl

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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy now adds a period after the day of the month.

[Darryl Bonk]

That option is not on my list of Legacy date options I have 

"Nov 21, 1953" 
"21. Nov 1953"  
"11-21-1953" 
"1953-11-21" 
no option for "21 November 1953"
no option for "21 Nov 1953"





 From: Kurt Kneeland 
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Sunday, December 1, 2013 8:13 PM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy now adds a period after the day of the month.



The Family Search Family Tree date “standard” is actually 21 November 1953 
(full month name), which is what I have my Legacy set to.
 
From:Darryl Bonk [mailto:darryl_b...@yahoo.com]
Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2013 6:12 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy now adds a period after the day of the month.
 
I just updated Legacy and it removed all the modfied settings and reinstated 
the "21. Nov 1953" option after changing it before the update.  I hope the 
Legacy restore the standard format "21 Nov 1953 to be inline with Ancestry and 
Family Search as I used it and encouraged it for 40 years in genealogy and now 
its gone. The period addition I hope is just a programming issue that will be 
resolved in a future update.
 
I do appreciate the new Search the Internet option with the drop down list of 
searchable website.  I was always hoping to be able to select easier the 
website searches.
 
Darryl
 
 
 



From:Wendy Howard 
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Sunday, December 1, 2013 6:58 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy now adds a period after the day of the month.

Hi Darryl,

"the old format which is standard "21 Nov 1953" is not option anymore on
the program"

That's odd, it's exactly what I selected when I was reviewing the
options, and have it set now.

On my screen, looking at Customise 5.1, it's the second option in the
left-hand column, below "Nov 21, 1953".  That's a comma, not a full
stop/period.

If you're seeing different options, perhaps it is influenced by the
language set when you first opened Legacy v8 - I selected English
(Australia), since I'm in New Zealand and it's the closest to what I use
in everyday language.  You can change the language option via the ribbon
- Option > Select Language.

"gbl" means "global", I expect.  As in, this setting is a global one,
and will affect every family file (ff) you open.  A setting that
indicates it is (ff) only affects the family file you have open at the
time you set that option.  I really like that Legacy now tells us this
information.

Hope this helps.  :-)

Kind Regards,
Wendy

Darryl Bonk said the following on 2/12/2013 12:38 p.m.:
> Seems unusual that the default would be with a period after the day of
> the month "21. Nov 1953"  and the old format which is standard "21 Nov
> 1953" is not option anymore on the program.  Hope this will be restore
> with a new update, as "21. Nov 1953"  is not as far as I know is
> useful or standard.  Is there a reason for the "21. Nov 1953" format.
>  Ancestry and FamilySearch use the old format.  What does "gbl" stand
> for?  I see it throughout the program.
>
> Thanks for your help.
>
> Darryl




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RE: [LegacyUG] Thank You

[William Boswell]

They've even given us two updates already.  Personally I think it is much 
better than 7.5.

Bill Boswell

-Original Message-
From: Marnie Oakes [mailto:marnie.oa...@verizon.net]
Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2013 7:12 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Thank You

A huge thank you to the Legacy support staff AND the volunteers who have now 
spent days helping
users understand Legacy 8.   I haven't had problems, but the answers
these dedicated folks have
provided have helped me understand the program in ways I would never found on 
my own.  The willingness of testers to jump into the frying pan of 
expectations, disappointments, and frustrations speaks well of the Legacy 
community.

THANK YOU!!!

Marnie Oakes




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Re: Re[2]: [LegacyUG] Legacy now adds a period after the day of the month.

[Darryl Bonk]

What is the period after the date of the month for?



 From: Laurence E Stephenson 
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Sunday, December 1, 2013 8:08 PM
Subject: Re[2]: [LegacyUG] Legacy now adds a period after the day of the month.




It's a user setting not a program problem
 
-- Original Message --
From: "Darryl Bonk" 
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com
Sent: 2/12/2013 11:12:28 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy now adds a period after the day of the month.
I just updated Legacy and it removed all the modfied settings and reinstated 
the "21. Nov 1953" option after changing it before the update.  I hope the 
Legacy restore the standard format "21 Nov 1953 to be inline with Ancestry and 
Family Search as I used it and encouraged it for 40 years in genealogy and now 
its gone. The period addition I hope is just a programming issue that will be 
resolved in a future update.
>
>
>I do appreciate the new Search the Internet option with the drop down list of 
>searchable website.  I was always hoping to be able to select easier the 
>website searches.
>
>
>Darryl
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

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RE: Re[2]: [LegacyUG] Legacy now adds a period after the day of the month.

[William Boswell]

5.1 Dates Displayed as (gbl)

Format day with period (don't check the box)



From: Laurence E Stephenson [mailto:laurencestephen...@gmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2013 8:09 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re[2]: [LegacyUG] Legacy now adds a period after the day of the month.



It's a user setting not a program problem



-- Original Message --

From: "Darryl Bonk" 

To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com

Sent: 2/12/2013 11:12:28 AM

Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy now adds a period after the day of the month.

I just updated Legacy and it removed all the modfied settings and reinstated 
the "21. Nov 1953" option after changing it before the update.  I hope the 
Legacy restore the standard format "21 Nov 1953 to be inline with Ancestry and 
Family Search as I used it and encouraged it for 40 years in genealogy and now 
its gone. The period addition I hope is just a programming issue that will be 
resolved in a future update.



I do appreciate the new Search the Internet option with the drop down list of 
searchable website.  I was always hoping to be able to select easier the 
website searches.



Darryl




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RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy now adds a period after the day of the month.

[Kurt Kneeland]

The Family Search Family Tree date “standard” is actually 21 November 1953 
(full month name), which is what I have my Legacy set to.



From: Darryl Bonk [mailto:darryl_b...@yahoo.com]
Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2013 6:12 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy now adds a period after the day of the month.



I just updated Legacy and it removed all the modfied settings and reinstated 
the "21. Nov 1953" option after changing it before the update.  I hope the 
Legacy restore the standard format "21 Nov 1953 to be inline with Ancestry and 
Family Search as I used it and encouraged it for 40 years in genealogy and now 
its gone. The period addition I hope is just a programming issue that will be 
resolved in a future update.



I do appreciate the new Search the Internet option with the drop down list of 
searchable website.  I was always hoping to be able to select easier the 
website searches.



Darryl







  _

From: Wendy Howard 
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Sunday, December 1, 2013 6:58 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy now adds a period after the day of the month.


Hi Darryl,

"the old format which is standard "21 Nov 1953" is not option anymore on
the program"

That's odd, it's exactly what I selected when I was reviewing the
options, and have it set now.

On my screen, looking at Customise 5.1, it's the second option in the
left-hand column, below "Nov 21, 1953".  That's a comma, not a full
stop/period.

If you're seeing different options, perhaps it is influenced by the
language set when you first opened Legacy v8 - I selected English
(Australia), since I'm in New Zealand and it's the closest to what I use
in everyday language.  You can change the language option via the ribbon
- Option > Select Language.

"gbl" means "global", I expect.  As in, this setting is a global one,
and will affect every family file (ff) you open.  A setting that
indicates it is (ff) only affects the family file you have open at the
time you set that option.  I really like that Legacy now tells us this
information.

Hope this helps.  :-)

Kind Regards,
Wendy

Darryl Bonk said the following on 2/12/2013 12:38 p.m.:
> Seems unusual that the default would be with a period after the day of
> the month "21. Nov 1953"  and the old format which is standard "21 Nov
> 1953" is not option anymore on the program.  Hope this will be restore
> with a new update, as "21. Nov 1953"  is not as far as I know is
> useful or standard.  Is there a reason for the "21. Nov 1953" format.
>  Ancestry and FamilySearch use the old format.  What does "gbl" stand
> for?  I see it throughout the program.
>
> Thanks for your help.
>
> Darryl







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[LegacyUG] Thank You

[Marnie Oakes]

A huge thank you to the Legacy support staff AND the volunteers who have
now spent days helping
users understand Legacy 8.   I haven't had problems, but the answers
these dedicated folks have
provided have helped me understand the program in ways I would never
found on my own.  The
willingness of testers to jump into the frying pan of expectations,
disappointments, and
frustrations speaks well of the Legacy community.

THANK YOU!!!

Marnie Oakes



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RE: [LegacyUG] E mail test and customer number

[William Boswell]

I've done some experimenting with Family Search (not knowing what I was doing) 
by linking and transferring data from Legacy 8 to FS.  After I decided I should 
learn more about it, I deleted all those links and noticed the information I 
added was still on the FS website along with my name as the submitter.  I don't 
mind that, but I would think once the link is broken the information I linked 
to FS would disappear.  I prefer to not link and just add, but I am going to 
wait until I learn more.

The FS website doesn't give any information about consequences or what linking 
is all about, or the pitfalls involved.

Bill Boswell

-Original Message-
From: grayscot2 [mailto:graysc...@gmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2013 7:58 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] E mail test and customer number


The Help File for 7.5 does very little to explain how to use Family 
Search with or without Legacy 7.5.   You learn nothing about the consequences 
of matching, registering/contributing your tree, avoiding fostering duplicates, 
the detailed procedures for using it from Legacy,  the rationale and pitfalls 
of the whole thing.

Sorry to complain but these are issues.  Not sure why we had lesser 
priority than new buyers but glad to know we are still somewhere in the queue.






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Re[2]: [LegacyUG] Legacy now adds a period after the day of the month.

[Laurence E Stephenson]

It's a user setting not a program problem

-- Original Message --
From: "Darryl Bonk" 
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com
Sent: 2/12/2013 11:12:28 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy now adds a period after the day of the
month.
>I just updated Legacy and it removed all the modfied settings and
>reinstated the "21. Nov 1953" option after changing it before the
>update.  I hope the Legacy restore the standard format "21 Nov 1953 to
>be inline with Ancestry and Family Search as I used it and encouraged
>it for 40 years in genealogy and now its gone. The period addition I
>hope is just a programming issue that will be resolved in a future
>update.
>
>I do appreciate the new Search the Internet option with the drop down
>list of searchable website.  I was always hoping to be able to select
>easier the website searches.
>
>Darryl
>
>
>
>


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Re: [LegacyUG] Not happy with v8

[Duane Baker]

Go ahead, C. G.  Move to RootsMagic. Now, Quick.






On Sunday, December 1, 2013 4:58 PM, C.G. Ouimet  wrote:

Thanks John but …
 
>From my perspective (I’ve been with Legacy since 2.0), v8 has more issues than 
>any other release and I’ve had all the versions.
 
And BTW, Legacy used to install where you wanted it to and updated there. V8 
broke that mold and that Windows standard.
 
There’s a lot of history with the addition of features to Legacy that result in 
existing features getting broken because the testing is too focused on the new 
features and not on potential collateral damage.
 
I have Legacy to manage my genealogy data, not to be a software developer …
 
So, not OK …
 
I’m reverting back to v7.5 and the  backup I did before downgrading to v8. I 
may look at v8 again in the future if the bugs get resolved.
 
But I may also move to RootsMagic and, since there’s no Legacy ability to 
import from RootsMagic, that would be a one-way move …
 
As far as I’m concerned, I wasted $39 to downgrade to v8 …
 
C.G. Ouimet
Kingston ON
 
From:John B. Lisle [mailto:leg...@tqsi.com]
Sent: December 01, 2013 03:49 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] PP Alert Details Hang [was: Legacy 8]
 
C G,

Let me say something at the outset what may be uncomfortable to hear, L8 was 
released with fewer known bugs than L7.0 had when it was released and that L7.5 
has now. This is just a numerical fact from the bug tracking system. We are 
just accustomed to the bugs in L7.5...

That does not say that L8 is perfect... that never happens... L8 testing and 
development had gotten to the point that among the testers, we were not seeing 
new data destroying bugs.

As a retired long time test manager, I knew the product was ready to be exposed 
to a wider audience. Millennia made that decision that the time was right, and, 
if you look back at this list from when L7.0 was released, you will see many 
more birthing pains then than we are having with L8.

When support got swamped with new orders, myself, and several of the other 
testers, have chosen to fill in here to help the user base with the birth of 
L8. It has been a full time, unpaid job for the past several days. ;-)

In your following message, you said: "I have posted re a few issues with v8 but 
theres a lot more. Reporting them all would be too time consuming."

If we are going to confirm them and get them sent to development, we need to 
know about them.

Lastly, I will report the default install location issue, but I will also 
repeat... you want to install Legacy in your C:\Program Files folder. Virtually 
no testing was done with Legacy installed anywhere else. I have alerted folks 
of this issue.

OK?

john.


At 03:07 PM 12/1/2013, C.G. Ouimet wrote:


Thanks John, I can confirm that …
>
However … This has revealed another issue with v8 (My list is getting very 
long). In previous versions, the Legacy Update defaulted to install the update 
in the folder where the existing version is installed. V8 defaults to 
C:\Program Files (x86\Legacy8 regardless of where v8 was installed.
 
A lot of stuff broken in v8. Memories of past Legacies … Fix 1 thing, break 5 
others. I am regretting upgrading!
 
 
C.G. Ouimet
Kingston ON
 
From: John B. Lisle [mailto:leg...@tqsi.com]
Sent: December 01, 2013 02:06 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] PP Alert Details Hang [was: Legacy 8]
 
Glenn,

All of the evidence points to this being some problem with customizations as 
not everyone sees it.

However, it seems to have been fixed with Build 356. I was seeing it previously 
and cannot reproduce it now.

john.

At 10:51 AM 12/1/2013, Glenn Woodman wrote:

My experience is that the program hangs when I "click to see details."Ã I get 
no run-time error.à à If I right-click, or shift-right-click, I am taken to 
the correct dialog boxesà However, if I left-click to see details (which I 
presume is intended to inform me of where the problem lies), the program 
hangs.à The only way to get Legacy to come out of it is to kill it through 
Task Manager.à Before doing so, I went through the check/repair file process 
and restarted Legacy.à No error messages came up.à Task Manager indicates 
that Legacy is not responding.à I've even tried waiting as much as five 
minutes to see if it would begin to respond again.à It did not.

I am running Win7, have the 8.0.0.355 build, and experienced no problems in 
downloading and installing the program.

Glenn Woodman


On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 11:06 AM, C.G. Ouimet  wrote:
I'm glad it works properly for you. I doesn't for some of us. I'm in Deluxe ...

C.G. Ouimet
Kingston ON

-Original Message-
From: Brian/Support [ mailto:br...@legacyfamilytree.com]
Sent: November 27, 2013 02:01 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] PP Alert Details Hang [was: Legacy 8]
The clicks all work for me in 8.0.0.353. I tried both with Legacy
8.0.0.353 running in Standard Mode (Where Po

Re: [LegacyUG] E mail test and customer number

[grayscot2]

The Help File for 7.5 does very little to explain how to use Family 
Search with or without Legacy 7.5.   You learn nothing about the consequences 
of matching, registering/contributing your tree, avoiding fostering duplicates, 
the detailed procedures for using it from Legacy,  the rationale and pitfalls 
of the whole thing.

Sorry to complain but these are issues.  Not sure why we had lesser 
priority than new buyers but glad to know we are still somewhere in the queue.




From: Sherry/Support [she...@legacyfamilytree.com]
Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2013 06:26 PM
To: legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] E mail test and customer number

You can buy the download with or without the PDF manual, or the CD
with or without the print manual and either print or PDF by itself.

Of course the Help file always comes with the program and is more
comprehensive and up-to-date than the printed manual.

It's been years since I've purchased a program that came with a manual
- usually it only comes with a help file.

Sincerely,
Sherry
Technical Support
Legacy Family Tree

On Sun, Dec 1, 2013 at 3:50 PM, grayscot2  wrote:
>
> I don't know how they are handling L8 in pricing for the manual but this was 
> to be included with 7.5 as it usually is for all software.

>

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[LegacyUG] Source Detail - Detail Information

[Terry L .]

Hi,

I have downloaded Legacy8 standard edition. I am trying to add the text to the 
source detail, but seems there is a limit on how much you can add. Is this 
because I am using the standard edition?

Thanks
Terry


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RE: [LegacyUG] export gives different number of persons

[porter]

I noticed that also.

Porter

-Original Message-
From: Rose Hatten [mailto:rmhat...@gmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2013 5:07 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] export gives different number of persons

I tried to export my data, first to a GEDCOM, and second to a new Legacy file.  
Before doing the export, I did a
check/repair and a compacting of the file. I exported all individuals in the 
file.

The numbers in the export are not the same as reported in the General 
Information screen.  The database shows 2492
persons, the exports, both to GEDCOM and Legacy, show 2348.  The numbers on 
master events, media items, repositories,
event addresses, master sources, locations are all different from database to 
export.

Does anyone know what would account for these differences?  Losing almost 150 
people when exporting is distressing.  How
can I reliably get my data exported from Legacy?

Rose
BTW, thanks for the answers to my question on the ribbon.  I know I can hide 
it.  What I want to do is kill it. It
doesn't sound like that will be possible.



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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy now adds a period after the day of the month.

[Darryl Bonk]

I just updated Legacy and it removed all the modfied settings and reinstated 
the "21. Nov 1953" option after changing it before the update.  I hope the 
Legacy restore the standard format "21 Nov 1953 to be inline with Ancestry and 
Family Search as I used it and encouraged it for 40 years in genealogy and now 
its gone. The period addition I hope is just a programming issue that will be 
resolved in a future update.

I do appreciate the new Search the Internet option with the drop down list of 
searchable website.  I was always hoping to be able to select easier the 
website searches.

Darryl





 From: Wendy Howard 
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Sunday, December 1, 2013 6:58 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy now adds a period after the day of the month.


Hi Darryl,

"the old format which is standard "21 Nov 1953" is not option anymore on
the program"

That's odd, it's exactly what I selected when I was reviewing the
options, and have it set now.

On my screen, looking at Customise 5.1, it's the second option in the
left-hand column, below "Nov 21, 1953".  That's a comma, not a full
stop/period.

If you're seeing different options, perhaps it is influenced by the
language set when you first opened Legacy v8 - I selected English
(Australia), since I'm in New Zealand and it's the closest to what I use
in everyday language.  You can change the language option via the ribbon
- Option > Select Language.

"gbl" means "global", I expect.  As in, this setting is a global one,
and will affect every family file (ff) you open.  A setting that
indicates it is (ff) only affects the family file you have open at the
time you set that option.  I really like that Legacy now tells us this
information.

Hope this helps.  :-)

Kind Regards,
Wendy

Darryl Bonk said the following on 2/12/2013 12:38 p.m.:
> Seems unusual that the default would be with a period after the day of
> the month "21. Nov 1953"  and the old format which is standard "21 Nov
> 1953" is not option anymore on the program.  Hope this will be restore
> with a new update, as "21. Nov 1953"  is not as far as I know is
> useful or standard.  Is there a reason for the "21. Nov 1953" format.
>  Ancestry and FamilySearch use the old format.  What does "gbl" stand
> for?  I see it throughout the program.
>
> Thanks for your help.
>
> Darryl



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Re: [LegacyUG] E mail test and customer number

[Sherry/Support]

You can buy the download with or without the PDF manual, or the CD
with or without the print manual and either print or PDF by itself.

Of course the Help file always comes with the program and is more
comprehensive and up-to-date than the printed manual.

It's been years since I've purchased a program that came with a manual
- usually it only comes with a help file.

Sincerely,
Sherry
Technical Support
Legacy Family Tree


On Sun, Dec 1, 2013 at 3:50 PM, grayscot2  wrote:
>
> I don't know how they are handling L8 in pricing for the manual but 
> this was to be included with 7.5 as it usually is for all software.

>



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Re: [LegacyUG] Favorite Option

[Jay 1FamilyTree]

John,

The Help text is not total clear on the UnknownName.txt  requirements...

the example shows

*Child ???*

*[--?--] NN ???*

so does that mean then in a given name field with only the text "Child" or
"???"  will be ignored when creating potential problems?
Does capitalization matter?? what if its "child" ?

Will this text file allow for 'comments' ?
Like

#Given names
*Child ???*
#Surnames
[--?--]

Just most of us do not automatically know how to do these type
customizations!But yet another reason why Legacy is so great!

Thanks
Jay







Could you or someone provide an example of the contents of unknownname.txt ?









On Sun, Dec 1, 2013 at 3:56 PM, Kurt Kneeland
wrote:

> Great tip on the UnknownName.txt file.  I’ve also seen mention of .txt
> files for customizing the GeoCodes data.  Are there any other of these
> little know customization techniques?
>
>
>
> *From:* John B. Lisle [mailto:leg...@tqsi.com]
> *Sent:* Sunday, December 01, 2013 4:41 PM
> *To:* LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> *Subject:* RE: [LegacyUG] Favorite Option
>
>
>
> C G, Randy, et al,
>
> When we first got to testing the PP Alerts, I felt the same way you are
> feeling. Today, the number of PP Alerts that pop up incorrectly - as
> determined by your settings - is very small. And when they happen, tell us
> about them so that the developers can look into them and get them fixed.
>
> There are two activities you can do that can significantly reduce your
> "false alarms".
>
> 1/ If you have various naming conventions for unknown given and surnames,
> you can list those in a file called UnknownName.txt. Help has the details.
> This allows you to still find problems in names but exclude the bulk of the
> names that you expect to not conform to "standards".
>
> 2/ The NEW category for Potential Problems called "Gaps" are going to
> drive many people wild. I think you need to adjust your use of those Gap
> settings. Please note that the settings for the Potential Problems Report
> determine what types of problems you want Alerts for. You can set the Gaps
> settings there for different time periods, or just turn those settings off,
> if you choose not to worry about those settings. I know I have fiddled with
> those to suit the needs of my family files.
>
> These instant PP Alerts are one of the great benefits of L8 as they alert
> you while you are entering data if you have entered something that does not
> make sense.
>
> And, as mentioned by someone else, the ability to know when you add a new
> person that the person may be a duplicate of someone already in your file,
> can save you a ton of work.
>
> L8 is going to change the way you do research and lots of folks do not
> like to change their habits. In the long run, these features will promote
> your research to being more accurate and better respected.
>
> Just my opinion... I could be wrong...
>
> john.
>
> At 03:31 PM 12/1/2013, C.G. Ouimet wrote:
>
> Especially since many of the problems are really false alarms … Too many
> fallse alarms leads to ignoring real ones …
>
>
>
> C.G. Ouimet
> Kingston ON
>
> *From:* Randy Clark [ mailto:ceddaco...@gmail.com ]
> *Sent:* December 01, 2013 03:22 PM
> *To:* LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> *Subject:* [LegacyUG] Favorite Option
>
> I love Option 8.11 as it lets me turn off those annoying warning symbols.
>
>
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RE: [LegacyUG] Time setting problem

[Kurt Kneeland]

Sorry, my typo.

-Original Message-
From: Dan Toshack [mailto:dan.tosh...@sympatico.ca]
Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2013 5:40 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Time setting problem

Latest release is Version 356 - 11/30/2013

-Original Message-
From: Kurt Kneeland
Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2013 5:43 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Time setting problem

This appears to be fixed in the latest release 366 - 11/30/2013.

-Original Message-
From: Brian [mailto:blr...@optonline.net]
Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2013 12:21 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Time setting problem

Hello,
I'm running V8 full version and cant seem to set the alarm properly.
I can set the "Current Alarm Setting" time but the AM/PM keeps reverting to AM, 
I need it set to PM but PM wont save.

Brian








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RE: [LegacyUG] Not happy with v8

[C.G. Ouimet]

Sorry Ron but you missed my point …



It is OK to have a Legacy 8 that works differently than 7.



What’s not OK is to have Legacy 8 to work differently while introducing a few 
things that work, introducing a few things that kinda work and breaking a lot 
of things that used to work …



Kinda like going to your car dealer and having that software upgrade done then 
finding out that the pretty lights and add-on GPS come at the expense of the 
A/C and 5mpg. The dealer says they might be able to fix that in the next few 
months … Happy?



C.G. Ouimet

Kingston ON



From: Ron Bernier [mailto:ronaldbern...@bernfrin.net]
Sent: December 01, 2013 06:08 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Not happy with v8





On Sun, Dec 1, 2013 at 4:56 PM, C.G. Ouimet  wrote:

Thanks John but …



>From my perspective (I’ve been with Legacy since 2.0), v8 has more issues than 
>any other release and I’ve had all the versions.



And BTW, Legacy used to install where you wanted it to and updated there. V8 
broke that mold and that Windows standard.



There’s a lot of history with the addition of features to Legacy that result in 
existing features getting broken because the testing is too focused on the new 
features and not on potential collateral damage.



I have Legacy to manage my genealogy data, not to be a software developer …



So, not OK …



I’m reverting back to v7.5 and the  backup I did before downgrading to v8. I 
may look at v8 again in the future if the bugs get resolved.



But I may also move to RootsMagic and, since there’s no Legacy ability to 
import from RootsMagic, that would be a one-way move …



As far as I’m concerned, I wasted $39 to downgrade to v8 …



C.G. Ouimet

Kingston ON


I can honestly say that I had been using Roots Magic 6.XX because of the shared 
events (actually, I started using RM 4.XX then upgraded to 5.XX and then 6.XX). 
 Now that Legacy has finally added shared events to version 8, I have stopped 
using any of the other products that used shared events/"witness" feature (read 
completely uninstalled).



No one is saying that Legacy 8.XX is totally error free.  There is currently no 
program in existence that is 100% error free.  The majority of the complaints 
with Legacy 8.XX are program changes that some folks don't like and have made 
up their mind that the program doesn't work like it used to (i.e. Legacy 7.5) 
therefore in their mind they see the way the program works now as being buggy.  
The folks that fall into this category will never give themselves the 
opportunity to get used to the new features and operation of the program.



One person on this list is even using the excuse that because he hasn't 
received his license key he is demanding a refund and is moving on to another 
program.  The reality is, he doesn't want to learn how the new Legacy works.



Some of the complaints on this list remind me of a lady I worked with years ago 
- she had been with the company for more than 30 years and she was set in her 
way when it came to how things were done.  Unfortunately, that way things had 
been done for years and years were no longer efficient.   We started gradually 
making changes that were intended to make our processes more efficient.  The 
more we changed the processes, the more this lady became vocal and rebellious.  
Finally, she just no longer could deal with the change made (which by the way 
was saving the company in excess of $700K annually) and she decided it was time 
to retire.



I for one am very happy with the changes that Legacy 8.XX has introduced.  I 
hope there are more folks happy/pleased with the changes than there are those 
who have made up their mind to reject the changes.



Ron Bernier
Woonsocket, RI



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RE: [LegacyUG] Favorite Option

[Kurt Kneeland]

For the UnknownName.txt file, it appears that you have to close and restart 
Legacy after you create (or edit) the file.  Apparently Legacy looks for and 
loads it during startup.



From: Kurt Kneeland [mailto:kurt-kneel...@sbcglobal.net]
Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2013 5:57 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Favorite Option



Great tip on the UnknownName.txt file.  I’ve also seen mention of .txt files 
for customizing the GeoCodes data.  Are there any other of these little know 
customization techniques?



From: John B. Lisle [mailto:leg...@tqsi.com]
Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2013 4:41 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Favorite Option



C G, Randy, et al,

When we first got to testing the PP Alerts, I felt the same way you are 
feeling. Today, the number of PP Alerts that pop up incorrectly - as determined 
by your settings - is very small. And when they happen, tell us about them so 
that the developers can look into them and get them fixed.

There are two activities you can do that can significantly reduce your "false 
alarms".

1/ If you have various naming conventions for unknown given and surnames, you 
can list those in a file called UnknownName.txt. Help has the details. This 
allows you to still find problems in names but exclude the bulk of the names 
that you expect to not conform to "standards".

2/ The NEW category for Potential Problems called "Gaps" are going to drive 
many people wild. I think you need to adjust your use of those Gap settings. 
Please note that the settings for the Potential Problems Report determine what 
types of problems you want Alerts for. You can set the Gaps settings there for 
different time periods, or just turn those settings off, if you choose not to 
worry about those settings. I know I have fiddled with those to suit the needs 
of my family files.

These instant PP Alerts are one of the great benefits of L8 as they alert you 
while you are entering data if you have entered something that does not make 
sense.

And, as mentioned by someone else, the ability to know when you add a new 
person that the person may be a duplicate of someone already in your file, can 
save you a ton of work.

L8 is going to change the way you do research and lots of folks do not like to 
change their habits. In the long run, these features will promote your research 
to being more accurate and better respected.

Just my opinion... I could be wrong...

john.

At 03:31 PM 12/1/2013, C.G. Ouimet wrote:

Especially since many of the problems are really false alarms … Too many fallse 
alarms leads to ignoring real ones …



C.G. Ouimet
Kingston ON

From: Randy Clark [ mailto:ceddaco...@gmail.com  ]
Sent: December 01, 2013 03:22 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Favorite Option

I love Option 8.11 as it lets me turn off those annoying warning symbols.









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RE: [LegacyUG] Not happy with v8

[C.G. Ouimet]

We agree on one thing Legacy has more features than RootsMagic.



However, RootsMagic’s features all work. Legacy’s don’t which does not inspire 
confidence on the data management under all the gloss …





C.G. Ouimet

Kingston ON



From: John B. Lisle [mailto:leg...@tqsi.com]
Sent: December 01, 2013 06:13 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Not happy with v8



CG,

You are free to do what you wish.

As a tester, I know that myself, and most of my testing colleagues, were not 
just testing that new features worked but that all of the functions worked. I 
personally built new large family files with L8, faster that I could have with 
L7.5. Created reports, exported Gedcoms to TNG, etc etc.

Talking out of turn maybe...

1/ Making Legacy 8 better conform to Microsoft standards was huge issue for the 
testers world wide. It is the first step for Legacy making some other moves to 
comply with expected 21st century standards in future revisions. Remember, 
Millennia is not a huge company like Ancestry with dozens of programmers and 
more money to spend than they know how to spend. Moving from a 15+ year old 
platform to today's platform cannot be done easily whilst maintaining the 
essential character of the product.

When Ancestry did this with Family Tree Maker, they lost a ton of customers 
(many of which Legacy gained... ;-) ) and the character and functionality of 
FTM today is quite different, but in many ways still not what Legacy is today.

2/ Many L8 features are still to come. When this birthing is over, I suspect we 
will start going on more new stuff.

3/ Roots Magic is a good product but functionally not up to what Legacy can do. 
It does some stuff better than Legacy but more things poorer than Legacy. It 
does not give you all of the options that Legacy gives. AND RM does not have 
the international support that Legacy has.

If a user does not want to be a pioneer with new software and help birth ANY 
new product, wait 30-60 days to upgrade when the kinks get worked out by those 
who do.

Hoping you will stay with the team... as I value your input,

john.

At 04:56 PM 12/1/2013, C.G. Ouimet wrote:



Thanks John but …

>From my perspective (I’ve been with Legacy since 2.0), v8 has more issues 
>than any other release and I’ve had all the versions.

And BTW, Legacy used to install where you wanted it to and updated there. V8 
broke that mold and that Windows standard.

There’s a lot of history with the addition of features to Legacy that result 
in existing features getting broken because the testing is too focused on the 
new features and not on potential collateral damage.

I have Legacy to manage my genealogy data, not to be a software developer …
>
So, not OK …

I’m reverting back to v7.5 and the  backup I did before downgrading to v8. I 
may look at v8 again in the future if the bugs get resolved.

But I may also move to RootsMagic and, since there’s no Legacy ability to 
import from RootsMagic, that would be a one-way move …

As far as I’m concerned, I wasted $39 to downgrade to v8 …


C.G. Ouimet
Kingston ON

From: John B. Lisle [ mailto:leg...@tqsi.com  ]
Sent: December 01, 2013 03:49 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] PP Alert Details Hang [was: Legacy 8]

C G,

Let me say something at the outset what may be uncomfortable to hear, L8 was 
released with fewer known bugs than L7.0 had when it was released and that L7.5 
has now. This is just a numerical fact from the bug tracking system. We are 
just accustomed to the bugs in L7.5...

That does not say that L8 is perfect... that never happens... L8 testing and 
development had gotten to the point that among the testers, we were not seeing 
new data destroying bugs.

As a retired long time test manager, I knew the product was ready to be exposed 
to a wider audience. Millennia made that decision that the time was right, and, 
if you look back at this list from when L7.0 was released, you will see many 
more birthing pains then than we are having with L8.

When support got swamped with new orders, myself, and several of the other 
testers, have chosen to fill in here to help the user base with the birth of 
L8. It has been a full time, unpaid job for the past several days. ;-)

In your following message, you said: "I have posted re a few issues with v8 but 
thereÂ’s a lot more. Reporting them all would be too time consuming."

If we are going to confirm them and get them sent to development, we need to 
know about them.

Lastly, I will report the default install location issue, but I will also 
repeat... you want to install Legacy in your C:\Program Files folder. Virtually 
no testing was done with Legacy installed anywhere else. I have alerted folks 
of this issue.

OK?

john.


At 03:07 PM 12/1/2013, C.G. Ouimet wrote:

Thanks John, I can confirm that Â…
>
However Â… This has revealed another issue with v8 (My list is getting very 
long). In prev

[LegacyUG] export gives different number of persons

[Rose Hatten]

I tried to export my data, first to a GEDCOM, and second to a new Legacy
file.  Before doing the export, I did a check/repair and a compacting of
the file. I exported all individuals in the file.

The numbers in the export are not the same as reported in the General
Information screen.  The database shows 2492 persons, the exports, both
to GEDCOM and Legacy, show 2348.  The numbers on master events, media
items, repositories, event addresses, master sources, locations are all
different from database to export.

Does anyone know what would account for these differences?  Losing almost
150 people when exporting is distressing.  How can I reliably get my data
exported from Legacy?

Rose
BTW, thanks for the answers to my question on the ribbon.  I know I can
hide it.  What I want to do is kill it. It doesn't sound like that will
be possible.



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RE: [LegacyUG] Not happy with v8

[C.G. Ouimet]

Legacy 8 better than Obama Care … J





C.G. Ouimet

Kingston ON



From: Donna Newell [mailto:djnewel...@gmail.com]
Sent: December 01, 2013 06:31 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Not happy with v8



Everything comes with some issues at first.  We just have to be patient and 
look for the positive and stop only dwelling on the negative.

We should all be really thankful that the programmers are not the ones that put 
up the Obumer care web site.  See there is a really big positive.  Nothing is 
crashing.



Donna in Ardmore, OK



From: John B. Lisle [mailto:leg...@tqsi.com]
Sent: Sunday, December 1, 2013 5:13 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Not happy with v8



CG,

You are free to do what you wish.

As a tester, I know that myself, and most of my testing colleagues, were not 
just testing that new features worked but that all of the functions worked. I 
personally built new large family files with L8, faster that I could have with 
L7.5. Created reports, exported Gedcoms to TNG, etc etc.

Talking out of turn maybe...

1/ Making Legacy 8 better conform to Microsoft standards was huge issue for the 
testers world wide. It is the first step for Legacy making some other moves to 
comply with expected 21st century standards in future revisions. Remember, 
Millennia is not a huge company like Ancestry with dozens of programmers and 
more money to spend than they know how to spend. Moving from a 15+ year old 
platform to today's platform cannot be done easily whilst maintaining the 
essential character of the product.

When Ancestry did this with Family Tree Maker, they lost a ton of customers 
(many of which Legacy gained... ;-) ) and the character and functionality of 
FTM today is quite different, but in many ways still not what Legacy is today.

2/ Many L8 features are still to come. When this birthing is over, I suspect we 
will start going on more new stuff.

3/ Roots Magic is a good product but functionally not up to what Legacy can do. 
It does some stuff better than Legacy but more things poorer than Legacy. It 
does not give you all of the options that Legacy gives. AND RM does not have 
the international support that Legacy has.

If a user does not want to be a pioneer with new software and help birth ANY 
new product, wait 30-60 days to upgrade when the kinks get worked out by those 
who do.

Hoping you will stay with the team... as I value your input,

john.







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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy now adds a period after the day of the month.

[Wendy Howard]

Hi Darryl,

"the old format which is standard "21 Nov 1953" is not option anymore on
the program"

That's odd, it's exactly what I selected when I was reviewing the
options, and have it set now.

On my screen, looking at Customise 5.1, it's the second option in the
left-hand column, below "Nov 21, 1953".  That's a comma, not a full
stop/period.

If you're seeing different options, perhaps it is influenced by the
language set when you first opened Legacy v8 - I selected English
(Australia), since I'm in New Zealand and it's the closest to what I use
in everyday language.  You can change the language option via the ribbon
- Option > Select Language.

"gbl" means "global", I expect.  As in, this setting is a global one,
and will affect every family file (ff) you open.  A setting that
indicates it is (ff) only affects the family file you have open at the
time you set that option.  I really like that Legacy now tells us this
information.

Hope this helps.  :-)

Kind Regards,
Wendy

Darryl Bonk said the following on 2/12/2013 12:38 p.m.:
> Seems unusual that the default would be with a period after the day of
> the month "21. Nov 1953"  and the old format which is standard "21 Nov
> 1953" is not option anymore on the program.  Hope this will be restore
> with a new update, as "21. Nov 1953"  is not as far as I know is
> useful or standard.  Is there a reason for the "21. Nov 1953" format.
>  Ancestry and FamilySearch use the old format.  What does "gbl" stand
> for?  I see it throughout the program.
>
> Thanks for your help.
>
> Darryl



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RE: [LegacyUG] Favorite Option

[Kurt Kneeland]

Great tip on the UnknownName.txt file.  I’ve also seen mention of .txt files 
for customizing the GeoCodes data.  Are there any other of these little know 
customization techniques?



From: John B. Lisle [mailto:leg...@tqsi.com]
Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2013 4:41 PM
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Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Favorite Option



C G, Randy, et al,

When we first got to testing the PP Alerts, I felt the same way you are 
feeling. Today, the number of PP Alerts that pop up incorrectly - as determined 
by your settings - is very small. And when they happen, tell us about them so 
that the developers can look into them and get them fixed.

There are two activities you can do that can significantly reduce your "false 
alarms".

1/ If you have various naming conventions for unknown given and surnames, you 
can list those in a file called UnknownName.txt. Help has the details. This 
allows you to still find problems in names but exclude the bulk of the names 
that you expect to not conform to "standards".

2/ The NEW category for Potential Problems called "Gaps" are going to drive 
many people wild. I think you need to adjust your use of those Gap settings. 
Please note that the settings for the Potential Problems Report determine what 
types of problems you want Alerts for. You can set the Gaps settings there for 
different time periods, or just turn those settings off, if you choose not to 
worry about those settings. I know I have fiddled with those to suit the needs 
of my family files.

These instant PP Alerts are one of the great benefits of L8 as they alert you 
while you are entering data if you have entered something that does not make 
sense.

And, as mentioned by someone else, the ability to know when you add a new 
person that the person may be a duplicate of someone already in your file, can 
save you a ton of work.

L8 is going to change the way you do research and lots of folks do not like to 
change their habits. In the long run, these features will promote your research 
to being more accurate and better respected.

Just my opinion... I could be wrong...

john.

At 03:31 PM 12/1/2013, C.G. Ouimet wrote:



Especially since many of the problems are really false alarms … Too many fallse 
alarms leads to ignoring real ones …



C.G. Ouimet
Kingston ON

From: Randy Clark [ mailto:ceddaco...@gmail.com  ]
Sent: December 01, 2013 03:22 PM
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Subject: [LegacyUG] Favorite Option

I love Option 8.11 as it lets me turn off those annoying warning symbols.



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Re: [LegacyUG] E mail test and customer number

[grayscot2]

Thank you.  Nice to know.




From: Sherry/Support [she...@legacyfamilytree.com]
Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2013 04:39 PM
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Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] E mail test and customer number

The free upgrades to v8 for those who purchased v7.5 after early May
are now being sent out - either the physical product, if that's what
you ordered in v7.5 or an email with download information for v8, if
you purchased v7.5 download.

Considering there are thousands of upgrades to process we ask for your patience.

Sincerely,
Sherry
Technical Support
Legacy Family Tree

On Sun, Dec 1, 2013 at 1:16 PM, grayscot2  wrote:
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> When I purchased 7.5, they said there was no manual for it and v. 8.'s manual 
> would be sent when it was available. I'm still waiting for that .pdf now 
> after months.

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RE: [LegacyUG] E mail test and customer number

[grayscot2]

I don't know how they are handling L8 in pricing for the manual but 
this was to be included with 7.5 as it usually is for all software.




From: William Boswell [whbosw...@gmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2013 04:39 PM
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I paid for the PDF manual for Legacy 8 as part of a bundle so I don't think 
it's free unless in the last few days they made it free.

Bill Boswell

-Original Message-
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Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2013 4:43 PM
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As I understood it, those getting their numbers now for Deluxe are also getting 
the .pdf. And I guess I am objecting to the fact that 7.5 was sold to me 
without a manual or any information on how Family Search worked from LDS, since 
that was the draw they were selling on.


From: Ron Ferguson [ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk]
Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2013 03:28 PM
To: legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] E mail test and customer number

Three very simple questions, which you might care to think about. How can a 
manual be published before the way in which a program works has been finalised? 
Or are you proposing that the release should have been delayed until the Manual 
had been printed? Or would you like it to be full of errors on the date of 
publication?

Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergys.co.uk

-Original Message-
From: grayscot2
Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2013 9:16 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] E mail test and customer number

When I purchased 7.5, they said there was no manual for it and v. 8.'s manual 
would be sent when it was available. I'm still waiting for that .pdf now after 
months.


From: Ron Ferguson [ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk]
Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2013 03:05 PM
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Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] E mail test and customer number

I suspect that John is correct, I only applied for my number yesterday, and 
received it today. Somewhere in the world that is probably same day service!!

Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergys.co.uk /

From: John B. Lisle
Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2013 8:20 PM
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Richard et al,

If you are still waiting since Tuesday and you got an email confirmation of 
your order, somehow your customer number was lost in your spam or something.
Everything I hear tells me that they have caught up on their backlog.

If you do not have your number by now, write Customer Service.

The email should be coming from :

Legacy Customer Service 

with a subject line (something like...) :

"Here is your Legacy 8.0 Deluxe Customer Number..."

john.

At 02:27 PM 12/1/2013, Richard Van Wasshnova wrote:

Nov 26 was unlucky day. I paid the 26th also and still waiting.

--
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On Sun, Dec 1, 2013 at 10:19 AM, porter < porterrockw...@q.com > wrote:

Lucky you. Purchased mine 26th and still waiting.

Porter

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Subject: [LegacyUG] E mail test and customer number

Hello Lug,

I'm testing my Lug address and wanted to say I purchased full version of Legacy 
8 about 2 hours ago and just received my

customer number.

Thank you Legacy!

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Re: [LegacyUG] Not interested in political social insults

[Suzanne]

I just think changing the spelling of our president's name in such a negative 
fashion, even if you disagree with his attempts to fix our messed up healthcare 
system, is unfair at best and disrespectful, to be sure.  Best to just stick 
with genealogical discussions here, I think. I wish you a good day.

> On Dec 1, 2013, at 6:44 PM, "Donna Newell"  wrote:
>
> I just thought that everyone should look on the positive side.  Sorry I hit 
> you hot button.
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Re: [LegacyUG] Installing on Second computer

[Mary LeClerc]

The lightbulb just went on.  Because I sync my two computers using
Skydrive, the Customer number was already there from the initial
installation on the laptop.I love it with I can answer "why".


On Sun, Dec 1, 2013 at 5:09 PM, Mary LeClerc  wrote:

> I installed Legacy 8 on my laptop a couple of days ago and unlocked the
> Deluxe version.
>
> Today I decided it was time to  update the software on my desktop so
> downloaded the free version of Legacy 8 and was expecting the need to enter
> my Deluxe Customer  # to unlock Deluxe on that computer.
>
> Imagine my surprise when it opened for the first time with Deluxe
> unlocked.  I don't remember this being the case in the past?
>
> So far I am loving just about every new change I've encountered.  I was
> anxious for shared events and expected to use it in recording census data.
> But since we can't edit the description field for each participant, those
> plans are going to have be reevalulated for my person preferences.
> Everything else seems like great improvements.
>
> My biggest complaint is that I didn't use Legacy when I first started
> computerizing my family files.  But that is on me.
>
>
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RE: [LegacyUG] Not happy with v8

[William Boswell]

Yeah, I left that bandwagon after 2009 and unfortunately FTM doesn't make it 
easy to move to a different product.



Bill Boswell



From: John B. Lisle [mailto:leg...@tqsi.com]
Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2013 6:13 PM
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CG,

When Ancestry did this with Family Tree Maker, they lost a ton of customers 
(many of which Legacy gained... ;-) ) and the character and functionality of 
FTM today is quite different, but in many ways still not what Legacy is today.







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RE: [LegacyUG] Not interested in political social insults

[Donna Newell]

I just thought that everyone should look on the positive side.  Sorry I hit you 
hot button.

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Re: [LegacyUG] Time setting problem

[Dan Toshack]

Latest release is Version 356 - 11/30/2013

-Original Message-
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Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2013 5:43 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Time setting problem

This appears to be fixed in the latest release 366 - 11/30/2013.

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Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2013 12:21 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Time setting problem

Hello,
I'm running V8 full version and cant seem to set the alarm properly.
I can set the "Current Alarm Setting" time but the AM/PM keeps reverting to
AM, I need it set to PM but PM wont save.

Brian



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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy now adds a period after the day of the month.

[Darryl Bonk]

Seems unusual that the default would be with a period after the day of the 
month "21. Nov 1953"  and the old format which is standard "21 Nov 1953" is not 
option anymore on the program.  Hope this will be restore with a new update, as 
"21. Nov 1953"  is not as far as I know is useful or standard.  Is there a 
reason for the "21. Nov 1953" format.  Ancestry and FamilySearch use the old 
format.  What does "gbl" stand for?  I see it throughout the program.

Thanks for your help.

Darryl



 From: Michele/Support 
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Sunday, December 1, 2013 6:24 PM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy now adds a period after the day of the month.


Darryl,
Options > Customize > Dates

5.1 Dates Displayed As (gbl)
Uncheck the box that says "Format day with period"


Michele
Technical Support
mich...@legacyfamilytree.com
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From: Darryl Bonk [mailto:darryl_b...@yahoo.com]
Sent: Sunday, December 1, 2013 5:49 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Legacy now adds a period after the day of the month.


When I converted several files to Legacy 8 from 7.5 when ever there was a day 
in the month it puts a "." after the day.  For example
12. Mar 1888

Darryl


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RE: [LegacyUG] Not happy with v8

[Donna Newell]

Everything comes with some issues at first.  We just have to be patient and 
look for the positive and stop only dwelling on the negative.

We should all be really thankful that the programmers are not the ones that put 
up the Obumer care web site.  See there is a really big positive.  Nothing is 
crashing.



Donna in Ardmore, OK



From: John B. Lisle [mailto:leg...@tqsi.com]
Sent: Sunday, December 1, 2013 5:13 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Not happy with v8



CG,

You are free to do what you wish.

As a tester, I know that myself, and most of my testing colleagues, were not 
just testing that new features worked but that all of the functions worked. I 
personally built new large family files with L8, faster that I could have with 
L7.5. Created reports, exported Gedcoms to TNG, etc etc.

Talking out of turn maybe...

1/ Making Legacy 8 better conform to Microsoft standards was huge issue for the 
testers world wide. It is the first step for Legacy making some other moves to 
comply with expected 21st century standards in future revisions. Remember, 
Millennia is not a huge company like Ancestry with dozens of programmers and 
more money to spend than they know how to spend. Moving from a 15+ year old 
platform to today's platform cannot be done easily whilst maintaining the 
essential character of the product.

When Ancestry did this with Family Tree Maker, they lost a ton of customers 
(many of which Legacy gained... ;-) ) and the character and functionality of 
FTM today is quite different, but in many ways still not what Legacy is today.

2/ Many L8 features are still to come. When this birthing is over, I suspect we 
will start going on more new stuff.

3/ Roots Magic is a good product but functionally not up to what Legacy can do. 
It does some stuff better than Legacy but more things poorer than Legacy. It 
does not give you all of the options that Legacy gives. AND RM does not have 
the international support that Legacy has.

If a user does not want to be a pioneer with new software and help birth ANY 
new product, wait 30-60 days to upgrade when the kinks get worked out by those 
who do.

Hoping you will stay with the team... as I value your input,

john.











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RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy now adds a period after the day of the month.

[Michele/Support]

Darryl,
Options > Customize > Dates

5.1 Dates Displayed As (gbl)
Uncheck the box that says "Format day with period"


Michele
Technical Support
mich...@legacyfamilytree.com
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Sent: Sunday, December 1, 2013 5:49 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Legacy now adds a period after the day of the month.


When I converted several files to Legacy 8 from 7.5 when ever there was a day 
in the month it puts a "." after the day.  For example
12. Mar 1888

Darryl


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Re: [LegacyUG] Not happy with v8

[John B. Lisle]

CG,
You are free to do what you wish.
As a tester, I know that myself, and most of my testing colleagues, were
not just testing that new features worked but that all of the functions
worked. I personally built new large family files with L8, faster that I
could have with L7.5. Created reports, exported Gedcoms to TNG, etc etc.

Talking out of turn maybe...
1/ Making Legacy 8 better conform to Microsoft standards was huge issue
for the testers world wide. It is the first step for Legacy making some
other moves to comply with expected 21st century standards in future
revisions. Remember, Millennia is not a huge company like Ancestry with
dozens of programmers and more money to spend than they know how to
spend. Moving from a 15+ year old platform to today's platform cannot be
done easily whilst maintaining the essential character of the product.

When Ancestry did this with Family Tree Maker, they lost a ton of
customers (many of which Legacy gained... ;-) ) and the character and
functionality of FTM today is quite different, but in many ways still not
what Legacy is today.
2/ Many L8 features are still to come. When this birthing is over, I
suspect we will start going on more new stuff. 
3/ Roots Magic is a good product but functionally not up to what Legacy
can do. It does some stuff better than Legacy but more things poorer than
Legacy. It does not give you all of the options that Legacy gives. AND RM
does not have the international support that Legacy has.
If a user does not want to be a pioneer with new software and help birth
ANY new product, wait 30-60 days to upgrade when the kinks get worked out
by those who do.
Hoping you will stay with the team... as I value your input,
john.
At 04:56 PM 12/1/2013, C.G. Ouimet wrote:
Thanks John but …
 
 From my perspective (I’ve been with Legacy since 2.0), v8 has more
issues than any other release and I’ve had all the versions.
 
And BTW, Legacy used to install where you wanted it to and updated there.
V8 broke that mold and that Windows standard. 
 
There’s a lot of history with the addition of features to Legacy that
result in existing features getting broken because the testing is too
focused on the new features and not on potential collateral damage.
 
I have Legacy to manage my genealogy data, not to be a software developer
…
> 
So, not OK …
 
I’m reverting back to v7.5 and the  backup I did before downgrading to
v8. I may look at v8 again in the future if the bugs get resolved.

 
But I may also move to RootsMagic and, since there’s no Legacy
ability to import from RootsMagic, that would be a one-way move …
 
As far as I’m concerned, I wasted $39 to downgrade to v8 …
 
C.G. Ouimet
Kingston ON
 
From: John B. Lisle
[
mailto:leg...@tqsi.com] 
Sent: December 01, 2013 03:49 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] PP Alert Details Hang [was: Legacy 8]
 
C G,
Let me say something at the outset what may be uncomfortable to hear, L8
was released with fewer known bugs than L7.0 had when it was released and
that L7.5 has now. This is just a numerical fact from the bug tracking
system. We are just accustomed to the bugs in L7.5...
That does not say that L8 is perfect... that never happens... L8 testing
and development had gotten to the point that among the testers, we were
not seeing new data destroying bugs. 
As a retired long time test manager, I knew the product was ready to be
exposed to a wider audience. Millennia made that decision that the time
was right, and, if you look back at this list from when L7.0 was
released, you will see many more birthing pains then than we are having
with L8.
When support got swamped with new orders, myself, and several of the
other testers, have chosen to fill in here to help the user base with the
birth of L8. It has been a full time, unpaid job for the past several
days. ;-)
In your following message, you said: "I have posted re a few issues
with v8 but there’s a lot more. Reporting them all would be too time
consuming." 
If we are going to confirm them and get them sent to development, we need
to know about them.
Lastly, I will report the default install location issue, but I will also
repeat... you want to install Legacy in your C:\Program Files folder.
Virtually no testing was done with Legacy installed anywhere else. I have
alerted folks of this issue.
OK?
john.

At 03:07 PM 12/1/2013, C.G. Ouimet wrote:
Thanks John, I can confirm that …
> 
However … This has revealed another issue with v8 (My list is getting
very long). In previous versions, the Legacy Update defaulted to install
the update in the folder where the existing version is installed. V8
defaults to C:\Program Files (x86\Legacy8 regardless of where v8 was
installed.
 
A lot of stuff broken in v8. Memories of past Legacies … Fix 1 thing,
break 5 others. I am regretting upgrading!
 
 
C.G. Ouimet
Kingston ON
 
From: John B. Lisle [

mailto:leg...@tqsi.com] 
Sent: December 01, 2013 02:06 PM
To:

LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.co

Re: [LegacyUG] Excruciatingly slow gedcom export

[John B. Lisle]

Cliff,
If you have shared events and want to export them, you cannot exclude
them so you are going to experience some decrease in speed. (If you try
your export with L7.5, you should see it faster, based on my personal
testing with files that size.)
The people who are seeing unreasonable time differences, have
significantly larger files than you have.
The problem seems to be in the code that tries to process shared events,
whether or not they exist. 
It is my expectation (and hope!) that this will be repaired
quickly.
john.
At 03:16 PM 12/1/2013, you wrote:
Again just for info-- Â my
gedcom export for 55931 people and 20135 marriages took 10 minutes WITH
shared events selected. Â Mind you I only have 1 shared event in my file
and I don't know if this is the reason I don't seem to be experiencing
the same issues as some others on this list. Â 
Cliff  

On Sun, Dec 1, 2013 at 11:03 AM, John B. Lisle
 wrote:


Cliff and Brant,

As has been discussed day before yesterday on this list, the issue
seems to be related to Shared Events, even if you have no shared
events.

In the Gedcom Export Customize form, exclude Shared Events from the
items to be exported and the export speeds up.

Development is aware of the issue and, I assume, is looking at
it.

john.

At 11:07 AM 12/1/2013, Cliff Gittens wrote:

Just as information I just did my first v8 export. Â The file has
55,000 people in it and it took only about 10 to 15 minutes.

Cliff Gittens

Surrey, BC, Canada


On Sun, Dec 1, 2013 at 7:39 AM, Brant Gibbard

wrote:

I sincerely hope that some effort is going to be put in to optimizing
the gedcom export code for Legacy 8, particularly for large files.

 

In Legacy 7 the export to gedcom of the section of my file that I use
to update my TNG site took about 10–15 minutes to complete.
>

 

In Legacy 8 the same process on essentially the same file with the
same options just took 3 and a half hours!!! The biggest culprit appears
to be the “marking records†stage in bet between the first pass and
the second pass. That portion gives the appearance of sticking in one
place with no apparent motion that could easily give the impression that
the export had hung (although it does eventually move on after over an
hour to the next stage)

 

Brant Gibbard
Toronto, ON
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RE: [LegacyUG] Favorite Option

[John B. Lisle]

C G, Randy, et al,
When we first got to testing the PP Alerts, I felt the same way you are
feeling. Today, the number of PP Alerts that pop up incorrectly - as
determined by your settings - is very small. And when they happen, tell
us about them so that the developers can look into them and get them
fixed.
There are two activities you can do that can significantly reduce your
"false alarms".
1/ If you have various naming conventions for unknown given and surnames,
you can list those in a file called UnknownName.txt. Help has the
details. This allows you to still find problems in names but exclude the
bulk of the names that you expect to not conform to
"standards".
2/ The NEW category for Potential Problems called "Gaps" are
going to drive many people wild. I think you need to adjust your use of
those Gap settings. Please note that the settings for the Potential
Problems Report determine what types of problems you want Alerts for. You
can set the Gaps settings there for different time periods, or just turn
those settings off, if you choose not to worry about those settings. I
know I have fiddled with those to suit the needs of my family
files.
These instant PP Alerts are one of the great benefits of L8 as they alert
you while you are entering data if you have entered something that does
not make sense.
And, as mentioned by someone else, the ability to know when you add a new
person that the person may be a duplicate of someone already in your
file, can save you a ton of work.
L8 is going to change the way you do research and lots of folks do not
like to change their habits. In the long run, these features will promote
your research to being more accurate and better respected.
Just my opinion... I could be wrong...
john.
At 03:31 PM 12/1/2013, C.G. Ouimet wrote:
Especially since many of the
problems are really false alarms … Too many fallse alarms leads to
ignoring real ones …
 
 
C.G. Ouimet
Kingston ON
 
From: Randy Clark
[
mailto:ceddaco...@gmail.com] 
Sent: December 01, 2013 03:22 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Favorite Option
 
I love Option 8.11 as it lets me turn off those annoying warning
symbols.



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RE: [LegacyUG] Syncing with Families

[John B. Lisle]

Paul, Judith et al,
Another "sync" problem is with Family Tree Maker 2014. Last
time I tried, it did not yet have the ability to read L8 files. This says
that the GenBridge technology from Whollygenes (The Master Genealogist)
that FTM uses is not available for L8 yet.
Several vendors of 3rd party products did work with Millennia during the
test process and their tools should be available now or shortly to
support L8. You will need to contact each vendor for their
details.
john.

At 03:53 PM 12/1/2013, Paul Gray wrote:
There a post on the TelGen board
that says they are working on an update to Families Sync to support the
new Legacy file format, expected out by end of December, So for now, we
are out of luck. I wonder if this is an issue with other ‘companion’
programs that directly read Legacy files?
 
Paul Gray
 
From: Judith
[
mailto:judithsfamilyt...@gmail.com] 
Sent: December-01-13 1:38 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Syncing with Families
 
Hello:  Here’s a new one, I think… when I tried to sync with the
program ‘Familiess’ I get the message “This database version is not
supported”.  I clicked on convert to SQlite file, and the same
message came up.  Any thoughts?
Judith



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[LegacyUG] Legacy now adds a period after the day of the month.

[Darryl Bonk]

When I converted several files to Legacy 8 from 7.5 when ever there was a day 
in the month it puts a "." after the day.  For example
12. Mar 1888

Darryl


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RE: [LegacyUG] Not happy with v8

[Lee Bruch]

Maybe its because you didn’t install v.8 in the default location … that’s the 
location that Microsoft’s windows now uses as a recommended standard



From: C.G. Ouimet [mailto:c.g.oui...@outlook.com]
Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2013 2:50 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Not happy with v8



I’m glad you’re happy but in my opinion, v8 is the worse Legacy update to date 
… More broken things than in any other release … Have fun …







C.G. Ouimet

Kingston ON



From: Jay 1FamilyTree [mailto:1familytree@gmail.com]
Sent: December 01, 2013 05:40 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Not happy with v8



Well, I for one think that the additional features and improvements are WELL 
worth the upgrade!



We all no that not everyone will be pleased, so a few unhappy soles are to be 
expected.



I think they did the right thing in that the location of installation was 
previously causing them much time and expense

and that by falling in line with other 'Windows' security and operating 
guidelines they can now spend more time devoted to solving genealogy problems 
and not Operating system problems!!



And since we are not 'privy' to the numbers, who is to say the few issues 
reported here are probably a very small percentage in relationship to the total 
sales



There are still improvements to be made, but this was a good step forward!!!



Kudos,

Jay









On Sun, Dec 1, 2013 at 2:22 PM, Lloyd Hite  wrote:

On 12/1/2013 4:56 PM, C.G. Ouimet wrote:

But I may also move to RootsMagic and, since there’s no Legacy ability to 
import from RootsMagic, that would be a one-way move …

Â

As far as I’m concerned, I wasted $39 to downgrade to v8

I have already made the move.

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[LegacyUG] Installing on Second computer

[Mary LeClerc]

I installed Legacy 8 on my laptop a couple of days ago and unlocked the
Deluxe version.

Today I decided it was time to  update the software on my desktop so
downloaded the free version of Legacy 8 and was expecting the need to enter
my Deluxe Customer  # to unlock Deluxe on that computer.

Imagine my surprise when it opened for the first time with Deluxe
unlocked.  I don't remember this being the case in the past?

So far I am loving just about every new change I've encountered.  I was
anxious for shared events and expected to use it in recording census data.
But since we can't edit the description field for each participant, those
plans are going to have be reevalulated for my person preferences.
Everything else seems like great improvements.

My biggest complaint is that I didn't use Legacy when I first started
computerizing my family files.  But that is on me.


--
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RE: [LegacyUG] Pedigree View Not Showing All Information

[Kurt Kneeland]

The popups show that information along with the spouse(s) & children.  See 
Customize option 1.7 if you’re not getting the popups.



From: Kay Fordham [mailto:kayhawo...@earthlink.net]
Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2013 1:20 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Pedigree View Not Showing All Information



Legacy 8.0



The pedigree view is showing only names and birth/death years. I am unable to 
locate a setting to include the full dates plus the locations for all (birth, 
death).



Thanks,

Kay Fordham



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Re: [LegacyUG] Not happy with v8

[Ron Bernier]

On Sun, Dec 1, 2013 at 4:56 PM, C.G. Ouimet  wrote:

> Thanks John but …
>
>
>
> From my perspective (I’ve been with Legacy since 2.0), v8 has more issues
> than any other release and I’ve had all the versions.
>
>
>
> And BTW, Legacy used to install where you wanted it to and updated there.
> V8 broke that mold and that Windows standard.
>
>
>
> There’s a lot of history with the addition of features to Legacy that
> result in existing features getting broken because the testing is too
> focused on the new features and not on potential collateral damage.
>
>
>
> I have Legacy to manage my genealogy data, not to be a software developer …
>
>
>
> So, not OK …
>
>
>
> I’m reverting back to v7.5 and the  backup I did before downgrading to v8.
> I *may* look at v8 again in the future if the bugs get resolved.
>
>
>
> But I *may* also move to RootsMagic and, since there’s no Legacy ability
> to import from RootsMagic, that would be a one-way move …
>
>
>
> As far as I’m concerned, I wasted $39 to downgrade to v8 …
>
>
>
> C.G. Ouimet
>
> Kingston ON
>

I can honestly say that I had been using Roots Magic 6.XX because of the
shared events (actually, I started using RM 4.XX then upgraded to 5.XX and
then 6.XX).  Now that Legacy has finally added shared events to version 8,
I have stopped using any of the other products that used shared
events/"witness" feature (read completely uninstalled).

No one is saying that Legacy 8.XX is totally error free.  There is
currently no program in existence that is 100% error free.  The majority of
the complaints with Legacy 8.XX are program changes that some folks don't
like and have made up their mind that the program doesn't work like it used
to (i.e. Legacy 7.5) therefore in their mind they see the way the program
works now as being buggy.  The folks that fall into this category will
never give themselves the opportunity to get used to the new features and
operation of the program.

One person on this list is even using the excuse that because he hasn't
received his license key he is demanding a refund and is moving on to
another program.  The reality is, he doesn't want to learn how the new
Legacy works.

Some of the complaints on this list remind me of a lady I worked with years
ago - she had been with the company for more than 30 years and she was set
in her way when it came to how things were done.  Unfortunately, that way
things had been done for years and years were no longer efficient.   We
started gradually making changes that were intended to make our processes
more efficient.  The more we changed the processes, the more this lady
became vocal and rebellious.  Finally, she just no longer could deal with
the change made (which by the way was saving the company in excess of $700K
annually) and she decided it was time to retire.

I for one am very happy with the changes that Legacy 8.XX has introduced.
I hope there are more folks happy/pleased with the changes than there are
those who have made up their mind to reject the changes.

Ron Bernier
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RE: [LegacyUG] Time setting problem

[Brian]

Just did the update to V. 8.0.0.356, the current version,
and indeed it is fixed.
 Brian




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RE: [LegacyUG] v8 Hide/Show Spouse/Child and Siblings List

[Kurt Kneeland]

Option 1.7 controls the popup information for spouse(s) and children on the 
Pedigree view.  You can set it off, for right-click or for automatic 
(hover/rollover).  There is an Edit individual button on the popup.  You can 
also double-click an individual in the popup list to make them the primary.  
Siblings of the primary would be on the popup list for the parent.

One thing I've noticed is in automatic mode if you hover and get the popup for 
one individual, then move away, you can't get the popup for that individual to 
reactivate until after you've activated the popup for a different individual.

-Original Message-
From: JV Leavitt [mailto:jleavi...@att.net]
Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2013 12:19 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] v8 Hide/Show Spouse/Child and Siblings List

I don't see it either.  Unless I'm missing something, It is no longer possible 
to highlight a person on the pedigree either.  Is this another step backward?  
I see that you can right-click on a name there, and view lists, but that 
doesn't buy you any other option, like to navigate to one of them.  That means 
you cannot see on the pedigree view any relationship except for the left-most 
individual.  Maybe that is okay, but it doesn't seem as friendly as it used to 
be.

Joseph Leavitt


On 12/1/2013 10:05 AM, Charles Apple wrote:
> Is there an option in Legacy v8 to turn on or off the Hide/Show
> Spouse/Siblings list in Pedigree View as was in Legacy 7.5? I have
> searched and cannot find it, perhaps I am overlooking something.
>
> Charles
>
>
>
>




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RE: [LegacyUG] Not happy with v8

[C.G. Ouimet]

I’m glad you’re happy but in my opinion, v8 is the worse Legacy update to date 
… More broken things than in any other release … Have fun …







C.G. Ouimet

Kingston ON



From: Jay 1FamilyTree [mailto:1familytree@gmail.com]
Sent: December 01, 2013 05:40 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Not happy with v8



Well, I for one think that the additional features and improvements are WELL 
worth the upgrade!



We all no that not everyone will be pleased, so a few unhappy soles are to be 
expected.



I think they did the right thing in that the location of installation was 
previously causing them much time and expense

and that by falling in line with other 'Windows' security and operating 
guidelines they can now spend more time devoted to solving genealogy problems 
and not Operating system problems!!



And since we are not 'privy' to the numbers, who is to say the few issues 
reported here are probably a very small percentage in relationship to the total 
sales.



There are still improvements to be made, but this was a good step forward!!!



Kudos,

Jay









On Sun, Dec 1, 2013 at 2:22 PM, Lloyd Hite  wrote:

On 12/1/2013 4:56 PM, C.G. Ouimet wrote:

But I may also move to RootsMagic and, since there’s no Legacy ability to 
import from RootsMagic, that would be a one-way move …

Â

As far as I’m concerned, I wasted $39 to downgrade to v8

I have already made the move.

Lloyd



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RE: [LegacyUG] Not happy with v8

[C.G. Ouimet]

Cool …





C.G. Ouimet

Kingston ON



From: Lloyd Hite [mailto:lhit...@gmail.com]
Sent: December 01, 2013 05:23 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Not happy with v8



On 12/1/2013 4:56 PM, C.G. Ouimet wrote:

But I may also move to RootsMagic and, since there’s no Legacy ability to 
import from RootsMagic, that would be a one-way move …

Â

As far as I’m concerned, I wasted $39 to downgrade to v8

I have already made the move.

Lloyd



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RE: [LegacyUG] Not happy with v8

[C.G. Ouimet]

J





C.G. Ouimet

Kingston ON



From: Don Hendershot [mailto:donald.henders...@gmail.com]
Sent: December 01, 2013 05:28 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Cc: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Not happy with v8



Bu-bye!

~DonH




On Dec 1, 2013, at 3:22 PM, Lloyd Hite  wrote:

On 12/1/2013 4:56 PM, C.G. Ouimet wrote:

But I may also move to RootsMagic and, since there’s no Legacy ability to 
import from RootsMagic, that would be a one-way move …

Â

As far as I’m concerned, I wasted $39 to downgrade to v8

I have already made the move.

Lloyd


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Re: [LegacyUG] v8 Hide/Show Spouse/Child and Siblings List

[JV Leavitt]

Thank you, Sherry!  That is very helpful.

Joseph Leavitt


On 12/1/2013 1:14 PM, Sherry/Support wrote:
> In Options > Customize > General, setting 1.7 enables popup
> information boxes, which you need to do to see additional information
> in the Pedigree View.
>
> Siblings aren't included however.
>
>
> Sincerely,
> Sherry
> Technical Support
> Legacy Family Tree
>
>
> On Sun, Dec 1, 2013 at 10:05 AM, Charles Apple
>  wrote:
>> Is there an option in Legacy v8 to turn on or off the Hide/Show
>> Spouse/Siblings list in Pedigree View as was in Legacy 7.5? I have searched
>> and cannot find it, perhaps I am overlooking something.
>>
>> Charles
>>
>
>
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RE: [LegacyUG] Time setting problem

[Kurt Kneeland]

This appears to be fixed in the latest release 366 - 11/30/2013.

-Original Message-
From: Brian [mailto:blr...@optonline.net]
Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2013 12:21 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Time setting problem

Hello,
I'm running V8 full version and cant seem to set the alarm properly.
I can set the "Current Alarm Setting" time but the AM/PM keeps reverting to AM, 
I need it set to PM but PM wont save.

Brian



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Re: [LegacyUG] E mail test and customer number

[Sherry/Support]

The free upgrades to v8 for those who purchased v7.5 after early May
are now being sent out - either the physical product, if that's what
you ordered in v7.5 or an email with download information for v8, if
you purchased v7.5 download.

Considering there are thousands of upgrades to process we ask for your patience.


Sincerely,
Sherry
Technical Support
Legacy Family Tree


On Sun, Dec 1, 2013 at 1:16 PM, grayscot2  wrote:
>
> When I purchased 7.5, they said there was no manual for it and v. 
> 8.'s manual would be sent when it was available.  I'm still waiting for that 
> .pdf now after months.



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Re: [LegacyUG] Not happy with v8

[Jay 1FamilyTree]

Well, I for one think that the additional features and improvements are
WELL worth the upgrade!

We all no that not everyone will be pleased, so a few unhappy soles are to
be expected.

I think they did the right thing in that the location of installation was
previously causing them much time and expense
and that by falling in line with other 'Windows' security and operating
guidelines they can now spend more time devoted to solving genealogy
problems and not Operating system problems!!

And since we are not 'privy' to the numbers, who is to say the few issues
reported here are probably a very small percentage in relationship to the
total sales.

There are still improvements to be made, but this was a good step
forward!!!

Kudos,
Jay





On Sun, Dec 1, 2013 at 2:22 PM, Lloyd Hite  wrote:

>  On 12/1/2013 4:56 PM, C.G. Ouimet wrote:
>
> But I *may* also move to RootsMagic and, since there’s no Legacy
> ability to import from RootsMagic, that would be a one-way move …
>
> Â
>
> As far as I’m concerned, I wasted $39 to downgrade to v8
>
> I have already made the move.
>
> Lloyd
>
>
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RE: [LegacyUG] E mail test and customer number

[William Boswell]

I paid for the PDF manual for Legacy 8 as part of a bundle so I don't think 
it's free unless in the last few days they made it free.

Bill Boswell

-Original Message-
From: grayscot2 [mailto:graysc...@gmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2013 4:43 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] E mail test and customer number


As I understood it, those getting their numbers now for Deluxe are also 
getting the .pdf.   And I guess I am objecting to the fact that 7.5 was sold to 
me without a manual or any information on how Family Search worked from LDS, 
since that was the draw they were selling on.




From: Ron Ferguson [ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk]
Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2013 03:28 PM
To: legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] E mail test and customer number

Three very simple questions, which you might care to think about. How can a 
manual be published before the way in which a program works has been finalised? 
Or are you proposing that the release should have been delayed until the Manual 
had been printed? Or would you like it to be full of errors on the date of 
publication?

Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergys.co.uk

-Original Message-
From: grayscot2
Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2013 9:16 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] E mail test and customer number

When I purchased 7.5, they said there was no manual for it and v. 8.'s manual 
would be sent when it was available. I'm still waiting for that .pdf now after 
months.


From: Ron Ferguson [ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk]
Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2013 03:05 PM
To: legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] E mail test and customer number

I suspect that John is correct, I only applied for my number yesterday, and 
received it today. Somewhere in the world that is probably same day service!!

Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergys.co.uk /

From: John B. Lisle
Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2013 8:20 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] E mail test and customer number

Richard et al,

If you are still waiting since Tuesday and you got an email confirmation of 
your order, somehow your customer number was lost in your spam or something.
Everything I hear tells me that they have caught up on their backlog.

If you do not have your number by now, write Customer Service.

The email should be coming from :

Legacy Customer Service 

with a subject line (something like...) :

"Here is your Legacy 8.0 Deluxe Customer Number..."

john.

At 02:27 PM 12/1/2013, Richard Van Wasshnova wrote:

Nov 26 was unlucky day. I paid the 26th also and still waiting.

--
Richard Van Wasshnova

On Sun, Dec 1, 2013 at 10:19 AM, porter < porterrockw...@q.com > wrote:

Lucky you. Purchased mine 26th and still waiting.

Porter

-Original Message-

From: Brian [ mailto:blr...@optonline.net ]

Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2013 10:30 AM

To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com

Subject: [LegacyUG] E mail test and customer number

Hello Lug,

I'm testing my Lug address and wanted to say I purchased full version of Legacy 
8 about 2 hours ago and just received my

customer number.

Thank you Legacy!

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Re: [LegacyUG] Not happy with v8

[Don Hendershot]

Bu-bye!

~DonH


On Dec 1, 2013, at 3:22 PM, Lloyd Hite  wrote:

> On 12/1/2013 4:56 PM, C.G. Ouimet wrote:
>> But I may also move to RootsMagic and, since there’s no Legacy ability to 
>> import from RootsMagic, that would be a one-way move …
>>
>> Â
>>
>> As far as I’m concerned, I wasted $39 to downgrade to v8
>>
> I have already made the move.
>
> Lloyd
>
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Syncing with Families

[Ron Bernier]

The Families program does not yet support Legacy 8.xx.  Malcom Green
(Families developer) told me an updated version is in beta right now and
should be released within a month.

On Sunday, December 1, 2013, Judith wrote:

> Hello:  Here’s a new one, I think… when I tried to sync with the program
> ‘Families’ I get the message “This database version is not supported”.  I
> clicked on convert to SQlite file, and the same message came up.  Any
> thoughts?
>
> Judith
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Not happy with v8

[Lloyd Hite]

On 12/1/2013 4:56 PM, C.G. Ouimet wrote:
>
> But I _may_ also move to RootsMagic and, since there’s no Legacy
> ability to import from RootsMagic, that would be a one-way move …
>
> As far as I’m concerned, I wasted $39 to downgrade to v8
>
I have already made the move.

Lloyd



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Re: [LegacyUG] Shared events

[Leonard Johnson]

Glenn,

I used to use Geoff's method, but I no longer wish to use his method.  I
think it is enough to record it as a shared event.  However, that being
said, there space for notes.  I have entered a Residence event as a
marriage event for my parents, and then have shared that event with myself
and my sister.  The role assigned to me and my sister is child.  I have
then entered a note in my part of the shared event.  That note is not
shared by my parents or my sister.  I have entered a note for my sister,
which is also not shared by me or my parents.  The only notes that are
shared are a note I entered in the shared event I created for my parents as
a shared event.  This should mean that recording the information suggested
by Geoff would work almost as it does in L7.5.

Good luck in using shared events.  I use shared events when recording
events shared by others, as birth, death, funeral, marriage, christening
etc.  It is much easier, for me, to use shared events for all types of
events where other people in my database have in so way particpated.



Leonard Johnson-Källbom
Team Leader
Swedish Translation Team
legacy8.swed...@gmail.com
We are helping change the world of genealogy !



On Sun, Dec 1, 2013 at 5:56 PM, Glenn Woodman  wrote:

> Dave:  Thanks.  That is excellent information.  I have not yet tried using
> Shared Events.  But I envisioned using it for census records.  I do
> transcribe the census records as Geoff describes.  I copy the census event
> including the source info to the clipboard, and then paste it into each
> individual's record and then highlight that individual's name.  It sounds
> like I will have to pass on Shared Events in this instance and continue
> doing it "the old fashioned way."  You've saved me a lot of angst down the
> road when I otherwise would have discovered what you have.
>
> Leonard:  I am intrigued by your comment on Roles.  Referring to my
> response to Dave, I highlight each individual's name in the census event a
> la Geoff.  How might I use Roles in this case, so that I could use Shared
> Events and still have my cake and eat it too?
>
> Glenn Woodman
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 11:33 AM, Leonard Johnson <
> legacy8.swed...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> You are correct Dave.  You are able to e.g. modify a shared event for one
>> of
>>  the children and that modification then affects all others who have the
>> same
>> shared event.  However, you are able to use roles in combination with
>> shared
>> event and thereby get closer to what you are talking about.
>>
>> I use shared events alot in my family tree.  I really love this function
>> combined
>> with roles.
>>
>>  Leonard Johnson-Källbom
>> Team Leader
>> Swedish Translation Team
>> legacy8.swed...@gmail.com
>> We are helping change the world of genealogy !
>>
>>
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[LegacyUG] Not happy with v8

[C.G. Ouimet]

Thanks John but …



>From my perspective (I’ve been with Legacy since 2.0), v8 has more issues than 
>any other release and I’ve had all the versions.



And BTW, Legacy used to install where you wanted it to and updated there. V8 
broke that mold and that Windows standard.



There’s a lot of history with the addition of features to Legacy that result in 
existing features getting broken because the testing is too focused on the new 
features and not on potential collateral damage.



I have Legacy to manage my genealogy data, not to be a software developer …



So, not OK …



I’m reverting back to v7.5 and the  backup I did before downgrading to v8. I 
may look at v8 again in the future if the bugs get resolved.



But I may also move to RootsMagic and, since there’s no Legacy ability to 
import from RootsMagic, that would be a one-way move …



As far as I’m concerned, I wasted $39 to downgrade to v8 …



C.G. Ouimet

Kingston ON



From: John B. Lisle [mailto:leg...@tqsi.com]
Sent: December 01, 2013 03:49 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] PP Alert Details Hang [was: Legacy 8]



C G,

Let me say something at the outset what may be uncomfortable to hear, L8 was 
released with fewer known bugs than L7.0 had when it was released and that L7.5 
has now. This is just a numerical fact from the bug tracking system. We are 
just accustomed to the bugs in L7.5...

That does not say that L8 is perfect... that never happens... L8 testing and 
development had gotten to the point that among the testers, we were not seeing 
new data destroying bugs.

As a retired long time test manager, I knew the product was ready to be exposed 
to a wider audience. Millennia made that decision that the time was right, and, 
if you look back at this list from when L7.0 was released, you will see many 
more birthing pains then than we are having with L8.

When support got swamped with new orders, myself, and several of the other 
testers, have chosen to fill in here to help the user base with the birth of 
L8. It has been a full time, unpaid job for the past several days. ;-)

In your following message, you said: "I have posted re a few issues with v8 but 
there’s a lot more. Reporting them all would be too time consuming."

If we are going to confirm them and get them sent to development, we need to 
know about them.

Lastly, I will report the default install location issue, but I will also 
repeat... you want to install Legacy in your C:\Program Files folder. Virtually 
no testing was done with Legacy installed anywhere else. I have alerted folks 
of this issue.

OK?

john.


At 03:07 PM 12/1/2013, C.G. Ouimet wrote:



Thanks John, I can confirm that …
>
However … This has revealed another issue with v8 (My list is getting very 
long). In previous versions, the Legacy Update defaulted to install the update 
in the folder where the existing version is installed. V8 defaults to 
C:\Program Files (x86\Legacy8 regardless of where v8 was installed.

A lot of stuff broken in v8. Memories of past Legacies … Fix 1 thing, break 5 
others. I am regretting upgrading!


C.G. Ouimet
Kingston ON

From: John B. Lisle [ mailto:leg...@tqsi.com  ]
Sent: December 01, 2013 02:06 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] PP Alert Details Hang [was: Legacy 8]

Glenn,

All of the evidence points to this being some problem with customizations as 
not everyone sees it.

However, it seems to have been fixed with Build 356. I was seeing it previously 
and cannot reproduce it now.

john.

At 10:51 AM 12/1/2013, Glenn Woodman wrote:

My experience is that the program hangs when I "click to see details."Â I get 
no run-time error.   If I right-click, or shift-right-click, I am taken to 
the correct dialog boxes  However, if I left-click to see details (which I 
presume is intended to inform me of where the problem lies), the program 
hangs.  The only way to get Legacy to come out of it is to kill it through 
Task Manager.  Before doing so, I went through the check/repair file process 
and restarted Legacy.  No error messages came up.  Task Manager indicates 
that Legacy is not responding.  I've even tried waiting as much as five 
minutes to see if it would begin to respond again.  It did not.

I am running Win7, have the 8.0.0.355 build, and experienced no problems in 
downloading and installing the program.

Glenn Woodman


On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 11:06 AM, C.G. Ouimet  wrote:
I'm glad it works properly for you. I doesn't for some of us. I'm in Deluxe ...

C.G. Ouimet
Kingston ON

-Original Message-
From: Brian/Support [ mailto:br...@legacyfamilytree.com]
Sent: November 27, 2013 02:01 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] PP Alert Details Hang [was: Legacy 8]
The clicks all work for me in 8.0.0.353. I tried both with Legacy
8.0.0.353 running in Standard Mode (Where Potential Problems lists are not 
available) and in Deluxe.
In stand

Re: [LegacyUG] E mail test and customer number

[grayscot2]

As I understood it, those getting their numbers now for Deluxe are also 
getting the .pdf.   And I guess I am objecting to the fact that 7.5 was sold to 
me without a manual or any information on how Family Search worked from LDS, 
since that was the draw they were selling on.




From: Ron Ferguson [ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk]
Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2013 03:28 PM
To: legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] E mail test and customer number

Three very simple questions, which you might care to think about. How can a
manual be published before the way in which a program works has been
finalised? Or are you proposing that the release should have been delayed
until the Manual had been printed? Or would you like it to be full of errors
on the date of publication?

Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergys.co.uk

-Original Message-
From: grayscot2
Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2013 9:16 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] E mail test and customer number

When I purchased 7.5, they said there was no manual for it and v. 8.'s
manual would be sent when it was available. I'm still waiting for that .pdf
now after months.


From: Ron Ferguson [ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk]
Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2013 03:05 PM
To: legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] E mail test and customer number

I suspect that John is correct, I only applied for my number yesterday, and
received it today. Somewhere in the world that is probably same day
service!!

Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergys.co.uk /

From: John B. Lisle
Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2013 8:20 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] E mail test and customer number

Richard et al,

If you are still waiting since Tuesday and you got an email confirmation of
your order, somehow your customer number was lost in your spam or something.
Everything I hear tells me that they have caught up on their backlog.

If you do not have your number by now, write Customer Service.

The email should be coming from :

Legacy Customer Service 

with a subject line (something like...) :

"Here is your Legacy 8.0 Deluxe Customer Number..."

john.

At 02:27 PM 12/1/2013, Richard Van Wasshnova wrote:

Nov 26 was unlucky day. I paid the 26th also and still waiting.

--Â
Richard Van Wasshnova

On Sun, Dec 1, 2013 at 10:19 AM, porter < porterrockw...@q.com > wrote:

Lucky you. Purchased mine 26th and still waiting.

Porter

-Original Message-

From: Brian [ mailto:blr...@optonline.net ]

Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2013 10:30 AM

To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com

Subject: [LegacyUG] E mail test and customer number

Hello Lug,

I'm testing my Lug address and wanted to say I purchased full version of
Legacy 8 about 2 hours ago and just received my

customer number.

Thank you Legacy!

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Re: [LegacyUG] E mail test and customer number

[Ron Ferguson]

Three very simple questions, which you might care to think about. How can a
manual be published before the way in which a program works has been
finalised? Or are you proposing that the release should have been delayed
until the Manual had been printed? Or would you like it to be full of errors
on the date of publication?

Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergys.co.uk

-Original Message-
From: grayscot2
Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2013 9:16 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] E mail test and customer number


When I purchased 7.5, they said there was no manual for it and v. 8.'s
manual would be sent when it was available.  I'm still waiting for that .pdf
now after months.




From: Ron Ferguson [ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk]
Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2013 03:05 PM
To: legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] E mail test and customer number

I suspect that John is correct, I only applied for my number yesterday, and
received it today. Somewhere in the world that is probably same day
service!!

Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergys.co.uk/

From: John B. Lisle
Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2013 8:20 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] E mail test and customer number

Richard et al,

If you are still waiting since Tuesday and you got an email confirmation of
your order, somehow your customer number was lost in your spam or something.
Everything I hear tells me that they have caught up on their backlog.

If you do not have your number by now, write Customer Service.

The email should be coming from :

Legacy Customer Service 

with a subject line (something like...) :

"Here is your Legacy 8.0 Deluxe Customer Number..."

john.

At 02:27 PM 12/1/2013, Richard Van Wasshnova wrote:

Nov 26 was unlucky day. I paid the 26th also and still waiting.

--Â
Richard Van Wasshnova

On Sun, Dec 1, 2013 at 10:19 AM, porter < porterrockw...@q.com > wrote:

Lucky you. Purchased mine 26th and still waiting.

Porter

-Original Message-

From: Brian [ mailto:blr...@optonline.net ]

Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2013 10:30 AM

To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com

Subject: [LegacyUG] E mail test and customer number

Hello Lug,

I'm testing my Lug address and wanted to say I purchased full version of
Legacy 8 about 2 hours ago and just received my

customer number.

Thank you Legacy!




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