Re: [LegacyUG] Settings Printout
Mike, As far as I know Legacy 8 is not using .NET but remains with VB6. Ron Ferguson http://www.fergys.co.uk/ Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Timeline locations
On 11/01/2014 07:10, Robert57P_gmail wrote: So I guess I could (and should) install the program in its default and still leave my data (family file, pictures, etc) in my own folder structure. That would work. It is pretty much how my files are set up, though I do have Individual pictures, Event pictures, etc in Legacy's default location (albeit in the sub-folders I set up for Legacy 7). All my Source documents, of whatever format, are stored in numerous folders and sub-folders under my main genealogy folder on my C: drive and Legacy doesn't have a problem. -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Two Sets of Parents in Legacy Chart
All suggestions are reviewed but not all suggestions are implemented. Most suggestions never get a response beyond the original confirmation that it was received. Since the release of Legacy v8, I have seen well over 300 suggestions come in We've received thousands of suggestions over the years I've worked for Legacy. Many of them have become part of Legacy. I remember many of the suggestions that have crossed my desk. To be honest, I don't recall that one coming in. If you have more than one idea, please submit separate suggestion forms. Sincerely, Sherry Technical Support Legacy Family Tree On Fri, Jan 10, 2014 at 11:47 PM, Robert57P_gmail robert...@gmail.com wrote: I have that same situation. We raised our nieces via guardianship, so they show up under us and under their birth/natural parents. I submitted an enhancement request asking that Legacy offer an OPTION of different colored connection lines (both for inside the program and for the various different charts). But it seems to be low on their priority list or not do-able. I never heard anything back from them, but I would not expect to hear anything back anyway. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Tagging marriages
Yes, this is just another way of each program trying to outdo the others. It has been around for a LONG time in some programs and I have just ignored the use of this function. At least this function has NOT been turned on by default! Thanks, David C Abernathy Email disclaimers This message represents the official view of the voices in my head. http://www.SchmeckAbernathy.com == All outgoing and incoming mail is scanned by F-Prot Antivirus == From: Brian L. Lightfoot [mailto:br...@the-lightfoots.com] Sent: Friday, January 10, 2014 10:04 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Tagging marriages Does anybody else think it strange to want genealogy software to also remind you of birthdays and anniversaries? Isn’t that why drug stores give out those free calendars where you just take out a pencil, open to all the appropriate months and days, and then write in things like “Uncle Joe’s b’day”? KISS Brian in CA From: Ron Taylor [mailto:doit4...@yahoo.com] Sent: Friday, January 10, 2014 7:00 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Tagging marriages I actually use the marriage tags quite a bit. Here is a help file that I sent out recently to some of the local Legacy users. It sets the marriage record Anniversary Reminder but logic to set any of the marriage tags is similar. The process makes it easy to set all the Birthday Reminders and Anniversary Reminders for descendants of select ancestors...ie living cousins, etc. How to set Anniversary and Birthday Reminders for select individuals geek data deleted Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] Tagging marriages
I like the reminders of brthdates and anniversaries. I tag all those I want to remember, then print out a monthly calendar. Once it is set up, I just need to select the months to print, and then I can call those people appropriately. 5 generations of those I like to call makes quite a few on the list. Carl Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Tagging marriages
I never use it. It's bad enough getting emails about birthdays on Facebook especially for people I hardly know or never met. Bill Boswell From: Brian L. Lightfoot [mailto:br...@the-lightfoots.com] Sent: Saturday, January 11, 2014 1:04 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Tagging marriages Does anybody else think it strange to want genealogy software to also remind you of birthdays and anniversaries? Isn’t that why drug stores give out those free calendars where you just take out a pencil, open to all the appropriate months and days, and then write in things like “Uncle Joe’s b’day”? KISS Brian in CA From: Ron Taylor [mailto:doit4...@yahoo.com] Sent: Friday, January 10, 2014 7:00 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Tagging marriages I actually use the marriage tags quite a bit. Here is a help file that I sent out recently to some of the local Legacy users. It sets the marriage record Anniversary Reminder but logic to set any of the marriage tags is similar. The process makes it easy to set all the Birthday Reminders and Anniversary Reminders for descendants of select ancestors...ie living cousins, etc. How to set Anniversary and Birthday Reminders for select individuals geek data deleted Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Settings Printout
I'm glad they don't use it. .NET sometimes has conflicts with other programs that use different versions of it. I'm always cautious when Windows Updates wants to update .NET versions. I usually don't update. Bill Boswell -Original Message- From: Ron Ferguson [mailto:ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk] Sent: Saturday, January 11, 2014 3:51 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Settings Printout Mike, As far as I know Legacy 8 is not using .NET but remains with VB6. Ron Ferguson http://www.fergys.co.uk/ Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Tagging marriages
Your solution, Ron, is actually going the wrong way for what I wanted, moving up the lines not down. There is probably a solution for that using your methodology. Legacy appears to tag individuals for the purposes of marking the direct lines (bold names and +) as well as colour coding the grandparent lines. If any of these showed up in the Marriage List, I wouldn't need to ask. I could just scroll down, see the appropriate indication, and do what I need to do. These are the same pieces of data but seem to be divorced from each other (pun somewhat intended ). I don't know anything about how the programming works, but is there a way to have this relationship? Bernie On 10/01/2014 8:29 PM, Kathy Thompson wrote: That's Easy?? Aside from that - not everyone uses (or wants to use) LTools - and I'd rather not clear my UserID's just to set reminders or tag more than one marriage at a time. On 11 January 2014 13:00, Ron Taylor doit4...@yahoo.com mailto:doit4...@yahoo.com wrote: I actually use the marriage tags quite a bit. Here is a help file that I sent out recently to some of the local Legacy users. It sets the marriage record Anniversary Reminder but logic to set any of the marriage tags is similar. The process makes it easy to set all the Birthday Reminders and Anniversary Reminders for descendants of select ancestors...ie living cousins, etc. -- Bernie H Blog site http://haushornung.weebly.com/ Data site http://www3.telus.net/hornunghouse/ Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Settings Printout
On 2014/01/11 19:29, William Boswell wrote: I'm glad they don't use it. .NET sometimes has conflicts with other programs that use different versions of it. I'm always cautious when Windows Updates wants to update .NET versions. I usually don't update. Not in my experience. .NET avoids the previous 'DLL Hell' that used to be so prevalent on Windows systems. My system runs .NET 2.0, 3.0, 3.5, 4.0 and 4.5. No conflicts! -- Regards, Mike Fry Johannesburg (g) Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] Settings Printout
My original query was in response to Sherry to reset my Legacy to Legacy default settings and then enabling my settings one by one to hopefully identify the one setting, or combination of settings, that triggered a display bug in Pedigree View. (I'm sure many have had similar requests from Tech Support.) Saving my settings is easy but having a list of them to then go about Sherry's request would make it much easier to meet her diagnostic needs. Without that list, I'm not willing to spend that amount of time on diagnostics. Suspecting that Tech Support already have a tool to decipher cryptic USR files, I submitted a suggestion ... We need a way to printout Legacy Settings in one concise report without numerous print screens. The user could select the main Legacy settings or any report or everything. Then, Sherry asked why I would ever need such a thing ... C.G. Ouimet Kingston ON Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Two Sets of Parents in Legacy Chart
Great idea, Cathy! Thanks! Chick On Fri, Jan 10, 2014 at 4:40 PM, Cathy Pinner genea...@gmail.com wrote: Currently not automatically but you can add a textbox from the Insert Ribbon and put it in that. Cathy At 01:51 AM 11/01/2014, you wrote: Thanks Brian, but it just seems confusing to see the same person on a chart in two different families without any explanation. Is there some way to indicate adoption on the chart? On Fri, Jan 10, 2014 at 7:29 AM, Brian/Support mailto:br...@legacyfamilytree.combr...@legacyfamilytree.com wrote: If they are correctly connected to two families they and their spouses if any will always appear twice in the chart to reflect the fact that they belong to two families. You can suppress duplication of their descendants by turning off the show duplicates on the Home tab of the chart. With that option the second occurrence will have the wording (duplicated) in the box. Font options for that are on the appearance tab. Brian Customer Support Millennia Corporation mailto:br...@legacyfamilytree.combr...@legacyfamilytree.com http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com On 09-Jan-2014 10:05 PM, Chick Lewis wrote: I have a case where two children, Ann and Mark lost both parents in an accident. Both were adopted by their mother‬™s sister.  The children are shown biologically with their birth parents, and I also show them as adopted by their aunt and uncle.  This is easily explained in notes.  BUT, in Legacy Charting both children appear twice under two sets of parents.  How can I correct this? Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Settings Printout
Another time it would be helpful is when you have to reinstall Legacy to remedy some unfixable problem. I had to do that once. On 1/11/2014 12:44 PM, C.G. Ouimet wrote: My original query was in response to Sherry to reset my Legacy to Legacy default settings and then enabling my settings one by one to hopefully identify the one setting, or combination of settings, that triggered a display bug in Pedigree View. (I'm sure many have had similar requests from Tech Support.) Saving my settings is easy but having a list of them to then go about Sherry's request would make it much easier to meet her diagnostic needs. Without that list, I'm not willing to spend that amount of time on diagnostics. Suspecting that Tech Support already have a tool to decipher cryptic USR files, I submitted a suggestion ... We need a way to printout Legacy Settings in one concise report without numerous print screens. The user could select the main Legacy settings or any report or everything. Then, Sherry asked why I would ever need such a thing ... C.G. Ouimet Kingston ON Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Settings Printout
GenViewer does not show a table with the options, so where are they stored? Are they in one of the Legacy files? If in a table, which one is it? If we knew where the info was stored someone might be able to create a utility to provide a list of the options settings. Bob Hansen On Jan 11, 2014, at 13:44, C.G. Ouimet c.g.oui...@outlook.com wrote: My original query was in response to Sherry to reset my Legacy to Legacy default settings and then enabling my settings one by one to hopefully identify the one setting, or combination of settings, that triggered a display bug in Pedigree View. (I'm sure many have had similar requests from Tech Support.) Saving my settings is easy but having a list of them to then go about Sherry's request would make it much easier to meet her diagnostic needs. Without that list, I'm not willing to spend that amount of time on diagnostics. Suspecting that Tech Support already have a tool to decipher cryptic USR files, I submitted a suggestion ... We need a way to printout Legacy Settings in one concise report without numerous print screens. The user could select the main Legacy settings or any report or everything. Then, Sherry asked why I would ever need such a thing ... C.G. Ouimet Kingston ON Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Two Sets of Parents in Legacy Chart
Nice idea, Bob, but I can see many complications and confusion with implementation, especially with one biological parent and one guardian or adopted. However, I do like Cathy's suggestion to use the insert text feature to indicate adoption. In fact, I am going to use that feature to replace the word duplicated with adopted Chick On Fri, Jan 10, 2014 at 11:47 PM, Robert57P_gmail robert...@gmail.comwrote: I have that same situation. We raised our nieces via guardianship, so they show up under us and under their birth/natural parents. I submitted an enhancement request asking that Legacy offer an OPTION of different colored connection lines (both for inside the program and for the various different charts). But it seems to be low on their priority list or not do-able. I never heard anything back from them, but I would not expect to hear anything back anyway. Here's what I suggested back in late 2011: I tried to submit this via Legacy's Suggest a new feature screen on the Legacy Home tab in the program, but I'm not sure if it made it. I got a suggestion confirmed msg, but on that same screen it had a web address and a GO button that made it look like I needed to click that GO button to actually submit the suggestion. However, whenever I clicked the GO button it said I had entered an invalid name and invalid e-mail. (FYI - I submitted it under my primary e-mail address, I did not use the same e-mail address I use on forums like this.) Here's my suggestion: It would be REALLY great if you could change some of the charts/reports/displays so they indicated blood-line vs non-blood line as an option. To some people this is not important, but to some this could be a big plus and a good selling point for Legacy. You could even have it where this was only available in the Deluxe Edition to encourage sales. It is important to note that this should involve: * No change to underlying database structure * No new fields * No change to GEDCOM It would make use of existing information already defined in the database. It would use the “Relationship to Father†and “Relationship to Mother†fields, and maybe also DNA fields. It would only impact charts/reports that show connecting lines. * No impact on reports like family group record report, Individual report, book reports, etc * It would impact Descendant chart, Pedigree chart, Ancestor chart, Lineage chart, etc. * It would impact Pedigree DISPLAY * It would impact all(?) items under Legacy Charting For me, I would think 2 connector line types would suffice (blood-line or not blood-line), but I can see where some folks might like up to 4 line types: * Red or solid = bloodline * Green or long dash = legal document/court document (adopted, guardian, etc) * Blue or short dash = no legal/court document (raised by relative or friend per family agreement) * Black or dotted (optional?) = not specified or conflict or unclear (conflict between DNA and Relationship fields, user created their own custom item in Relationship field, etc) Along with this change, there should be another change to the program when adding a new child or parent (you may want to make this change user-optional). The “child status†and the two “Relationship†fields should either display right on the “Information†window, or the “Children’s Settings†window should automatically pop up once the “Information†window is closed (just like the Marriage window auto-pops up when you add a spouse). Or maybe the “children’s settings†window should display alongside the “Information†window at the same time. I would prefer the fields automatically display on the “Information†window , but I’m not sure how you would do this without confusion. Maybe since you change the “Information†window’s title based on how it is opened, you should be able to use that similar code to modify the window field names. For example, a section on the “Information†window would pull the names from the fields and say something like: “John’s (child’s) relationship to Sam (father):†and John's (child's) relationship to Suzy (mother): (obviously the names and the “father†or “mother†info would change based on how it was pulled up). And “John’s (child’s) status:†. These fields would not show up if you were adding a new unlinked individual. Thank you for considering this change. Bob Patton On 01/10/2014 12:51, Chick Lewis wrote: Thanks Brian, but it just seems confusing to see the same person on a chart in two different families without any explanation. Is there some way to indicate adoption on the chart? On Fri, Jan 10, 2014 at 7:29 AM, Brian/Support br...@legacyfamilytree.com wrote: If they are correctly connected to two families they and their spouses if any will always appear twice in the chart to reflect the fact that they belong to two families. You can suppress
RE: [LegacyUG] Settings Printout
Indeed ... C.G. Ouimet Kingston ON -Original Message- From: ChasH [mailto:howell...@gmail.com] Sent: January 11, 2014 01:57 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Settings Printout Another time it would be helpful is when you have to reinstall Legacy to remedy some unfixable problem. I had to do that once. On 1/11/2014 12:44 PM, C.G. Ouimet wrote: My original query was in response to Sherry to reset my Legacy to Legacy default settings and then enabling my settings one by one to hopefully identify the one setting, or combination of settings, that triggered a display bug in Pedigree View. (I'm sure many have had similar requests from Tech Support.) Saving my settings is easy but having a list of them to then go about Sherry's request would make it much easier to meet her diagnostic needs. Without that list, I'm not willing to spend that amount of time on diagnostics. Suspecting that Tech Support already have a tool to decipher cryptic USR files, I submitted a suggestion ... We need a way to printout Legacy Settings in one concise report without numerous print screens. The user could select the main Legacy settings or any report or everything. Then, Sherry asked why I would ever need such a thing ... C.G. Ouimet Kingston ON Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Tagging marriages
Good point. When Direct Line has been set, the direct line ancestors ought to show up as bold on the Marriage List (like they do on the name list). Ancestor colors on the name and marriage lists would also be nice as an option. Curious. I just found a start at an Advanced Tagging for the marriage tags. Its under Marriage List - Options - Advanced Tagging. Lets you specify what you are using each tag for, shows a count of how many of each tag are in use, and lets you specify the 3 default tags. There’s also a choice back on the Marriage List - Options menu to clear any of the 3 default tags. Unfortunately none of the other advanced tagging options are there yet (tag ancestors, etc) From: Bernd Hornung [mailto:ber@telus.net] Sent: Saturday, January 11, 2014 11:43 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Tagging marriages Your solution, Ron, is actually going the wrong way for what I wanted, moving up the lines not down. There is probably a solution for that using your methodology. Legacy appears to tag individuals for the purposes of marking the direct lines (bold names and +) as well as colour coding the grandparent lines.  If any of these showed up in the Marriage List, I wouldn't need to ask. I could just scroll down, see the appropriate indication, and do what I need to do. These are the same pieces of data but seem to be divorced from each other (pun somewhat intended ). I don't know anything about how the programming works, but is there a way to have this relationship? Bernie On 10/01/2014 8:29 PM, Kathy Thompson wrote: That's Easy?? Aside from that - not everyone uses (or wants to use) LTools - and I'd rather not clear my UserID's just to set reminders or tag more than one marriage at a time. On 11 January 2014 13:00, Ron Taylor doit4...@yahoo.com wrote: I actually use the marriage tags quite a bit.  Here is a help file that I sent out recently to some of the local Legacy users.  It sets the marriage record Anniversary Reminder but logic to set any of the marriage tags is similar.  The process makes it easy to set all the Birthday Reminders and Anniversary Reminders for descendants of select ancestors...ie living cousins, etc. -- Bernie H Blog site http://haushornung.weebly.com/ Data site http://www3.telus.net/hornunghouse/ Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Settings Printout
C.G., et al, I agree with you. For some reason, not quite making sense at least to me, there has been a lot of disagreement from several people including support about the usefulness or need for this type of a report. Back in the day they might have argued there was no need for automatic transmissions, after all cars work just fine with a stickshift. I have yet to hear a really good argument why we can't have this report. Larry Lee ldlee...@gmail.com On Sat, Jan 11, 2014 at 11:44 AM, C.G. Ouimet c.g.oui...@outlook.comwrote: My original query was in response to Sherry to reset my Legacy to Legacy default settings and then enabling my settings one by one to hopefully identify the one setting, or combination of settings, that triggered a display bug in Pedigree View. (I'm sure many have had similar requests from Tech Support.) Saving my settings is easy but having a list of them to then go about Sherry's request would make it much easier to meet her diagnostic needs. Without that list, I'm not willing to spend that amount of time on diagnostics. Suspecting that Tech Support already have a tool to decipher cryptic USR files, I submitted a suggestion ... We need a way to printout Legacy Settings in one concise report without numerous print screens. The user could select the main Legacy settings or any report or everything. Then, Sherry asked why I would ever need such a thing ... C.G. Ouimet Kingston ON Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Settings Printout
Bob, The function of options settings is such an integral part of how Legacy performs this information needs to be internal and not developed as a third party workaround. Larry Lee ldlee...@gmail.com On Sat, Jan 11, 2014 at 11:59 AM, BobsTree2-Gmail bobstr...@gmail.comwrote: GenViewer does not show a table with the options, so where are they stored? Are they in one of the Legacy files? If in a table, which one is it? If we knew where the info was stored someone might be able to create a utility to provide a list of the options settings. Bob Hansen On Jan 11, 2014, at 13:44, C.G. Ouimet c.g.oui...@outlook.com wrote: My original query was in response to Sherry to reset my Legacy to Legacy default settings and then enabling my settings one by one to hopefully identify the one setting, or combination of settings, that triggered a display bug in Pedigree View. (I'm sure many have had similar requests from Tech Support.) Saving my settings is easy but having a list of them to then go about Sherry's request would make it much easier to meet her diagnostic needs. Without that list, I'm not willing to spend that amount of time on diagnostics. Suspecting that Tech Support already have a tool to decipher cryptic USR files, I submitted a suggestion ... We need a way to printout Legacy Settings in one concise report without numerous print screens. The user could select the main Legacy settings or any report or everything. Then, Sherry asked why I would ever need such a thing ... C.G. Ouimet Kingston ON Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] Events
Hello: I would like some thoughts on where to record certain events for a married couple. I started out recording under the individual names, then found I had duplicates in the Chronology view, so I moved the shared events, like residence to the Marriage tab. Do you record all joint events in the marriage tab and individual events in the person's tab? I have not tried the new 'shared events' option as yet, would that be the solution to this? Thanks Judith Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Settings Printout
Obviously, I agree … C.G. Ouimet Kingston ON From: Larry Lee [mailto:ldlee...@gmail.com] Sent: January 11, 2014 03:09 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Settings Printout C.G., et al, I agree with you. For some reason, not quite making sense at least to me, there has been a lot of disagreement from several people including support about the usefulness or need for this type of a report. Back in the day they might have argued there was no need for automatic transmissions, after all cars work just fine with a stickshift. I have yet to hear a really good argument why we can't have this report. Larry Lee ldlee...@gmail.com On Sat, Jan 11, 2014 at 11:44 AM, C.G. Ouimet c.g.oui...@outlook.com wrote: My original query was in response to Sherry to reset my Legacy to Legacy default settings and then enabling my settings one by one to hopefully identify the one setting, or combination of settings, that triggered a display bug in Pedigree View. (I'm sure many have had similar requests from Tech Support.) Saving my settings is easy but having a list of them to then go about Sherry's request would make it much easier to meet her diagnostic needs. Without that list, I'm not willing to spend that amount of time on diagnostics. Suspecting that Tech Support already have a tool to decipher cryptic USR files, I submitted a suggestion ... We need a way to printout Legacy Settings in one concise report without numerous print screens. The user could select the main Legacy settings or any report or everything. Then, Sherry asked why I would ever need such a thing ... C.G. Ouimet Kingston ON Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Events
Great idea. Joint events of a married couple (like a residence or anniversary) make perfect sense to record as Marriage Events. And they still can be shared with others (like the children). I’m finding a couple of difficulties in the implementation. First, I find I want a separate Master Event Type for something like residence so I can construct the Event Sentences slightly differently. So I’m using “Joint Residence” under Marriage Events vs “Residence” for an individual. Other Marriage Events like “Wedding Anniversary” only apply as Marriage Events so I don’t need the alternate version. Second problem is bugs in the sentence constructs are making it difficult to get the sentences the way I want them, but that will clear up in time. Mostly impacts when I Share the “Joint Residence” event from the parent couple to the children. The [CoupleFirstNames] or [MainCoupleFirstNames] functions are only returning the name of the mother. From: Judith [mailto:judithsfamilyt...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, January 11, 2014 2:43 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Events Hello: I would like some thoughts on where to record certain events for a married couple. I started out recording under the individual names, then found I had duplicates in the Chronology view, so I moved the shared events, like residence to the Marriage tab. Do you record all joint events in the marriage tab and individual events in the person’s tab? I have not tried the new ‘shared events’ option as yet, would that be the solution to this? Thanks Judith Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Settings Printout
Add me to a list who thinks that have the ability to print out the current settings would be quite useful. Since having a stroke, my memory is seriously flawed. By the time I click then scroll through each category, I’ve forgotten what I was looking for! grin If I get a wild idea to make a change and then decide I hate it, I have to guess at what I changed and what it had been. You can imagine the mess that can quickly be made as the memory errors combine! LOL!! GUI developers can’t assume that their user base is just like them. I’m amazed at how much my body has aged after 60. I wish I had been more aware of what declines with age, I would have designed things differently if I had. Don Hanson From: Larry Lee [mailto:ldlee...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, January 11, 2014 2:09 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Settings Printout C.G., et al, I agree with you. For some reason, not quite making sense at least to me, there has been a lot of disagreement from several people including support about the usefulness or need for this type of a report. Back in the day they might have argued there was no need for automatic transmissions, after all cars work just fine with a stickshift. I have yet to hear a really good argument why we can't have this report. Larry Lee ldlee...@gmail.com On Sat, Jan 11, 2014 at 11:44 AM, C.G. Ouimet c.g.oui...@outlook.com wrote: My original query was in response to Sherry to reset my Legacy to Legacy default settings and then enabling my settings one by one to hopefully identify the one setting, or combination of settings, that triggered a display bug in Pedigree View. (I'm sure many have had similar requests from Tech Support.) Saving my settings is easy but having a list of them to then go about Sherry's request would make it much easier to meet her diagnostic needs. Without that list, I'm not willing to spend that amount of time on diagnostics. Suspecting that Tech Support already have a tool to decipher cryptic USR files, I submitted a suggestion ... We need a way to printout Legacy Settings in one concise report without numerous print screens. The user could select the main Legacy settings or any report or everything. Then, Sherry asked why I would ever need such a thing ... C.G. Ouimet Kingston ON Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] When to use AKAs
Thanks to everyone for your replies. I'm still fuzzy on it though. A Scottish ancestor's birth name was Ewen, but after a few years in Canada he started going by Evan. So, I entered Evan as an AKA. Often he on documents he is recorded as Ivan. He never signs Ivan, but others (perhaps having trouble with his Scottish accent) would record him as Ivan. 1. Would you record Ivan as an AKA? He never went by it, but was often recorded as it. 2. What about the times Ewen was recorded as Ewan or Ewon. Spelling mistakes. Would you record Ewan and Ewon as an AKA? Sorry for asking my question again, but had to use some personal examples for better understanding. Leo From: singh...@erols.com To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] When to use AKAs Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2014 15:28:50 -0500 You could be right, of course. Cheryl CE WOOD wrote: The main reason for me to use many AKAs is the same as an earlier poster - so I can find information about someone when that person is referred to by one of his sometimes many AKAs. When searching the index of a book, say, knowing all the names a person has been called (not being funny here), makes it possible to know if that person has been mentioned in the book. For me, with thousands of medieval and earlier individuals, people were often a duke of this, an earl of that, a comet od the other, etc. The women too. These titles changed too; some were added, some were taken away by a king, then restored; some were called differently depending whether the author was Italian, French, Welsh, etc. Here's one with only a few AKAs that are very relevant when searching: England, AEthelwulf, King of Wessex, AEthelwulf, King of England and West Saxons, AEthelwulf, King of And then the women: Northumberland, AEthelreda of Allerdale, AEthelreda of Dunbar, AEthelreda of Dunbar, Octreda of Northumbria, Uchtreda of Northumbria, Sibyl Björnsdóttir of Bearsson, Sibylla Northumbria, AElfled of Northumbria, Suben Björnsdóttir of Don't get me listing all the Welsh and Celtic AKAs that you need to research any one individual in those lands! While I'm working on someone, I remember that, say, that: Clare, Gilbert the Red de -was also known as- Gloucester, 6th Earl Gilbert the Red de Clare, of -as well as- Hertford, 7th Earl Gilbert the Red de Clare, of But when I'm working on someone else, I may have forgotten, so when I come upon reference to the 6th Earl of Gloucester or the 7th Earl of Hertford, I can find out by a simple search of my index if this is someone I want know more about. I also use AKAs to have French royalty, say, listed together in the index with an AKA of France even if she had a last name. Of course, many of those were not known by a last name, she would be known as Marguerite of France, say. As far as that goes, the Plantagenets were never known as Plantagenets. That is a fabricated last name to help us. Edmund, Earl of Cambridge was also known as Edmund of Langley, as Edmund, Duke of York, but not as Edmund Plantagenet. It helps us to put in that he was the 1st Duke of York and to use Plantagenet as a last name, but Plantagenet of actually an AKA. All of this says nothing about the fact that English spelling was not standardized until the 1800s, American English even later. Read any early English or American wills for examples of spelling variations of the same word within the same document. To sum up, AKAs make research easier. What you want to put in your reports depends on your audience. CE Cheers, Carolyn From: singh...@erols.com To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] When to use AKAs Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2014 13:16:42 -0500 And, if one does NOT print them on reports, one will be answering questions of the But the name's wrong on that deed variety. And, recording 36 different AKAs on 200 different people gets a bit tricky too as one deliberates on whether one includes qwsrf on father and both sons when it has been spotted only father and one son. Then too why bother inputting something you don't want to output? Brian L. Lightfoot wrote: I was going to say “good point†to Cheryl’s comment but your response is even “gooderâ€Â. Legacy makes these things all so flexible for the user. Just gotta love a program that does that! *From:*CE WOOD [mailto:wood...@msn.com] *Sent:* Thursday, January 09, 2014 12:01 PM *To:* LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com *Subject:* RE: [LegacyUG] When to use AKAs But whether AKAs print in reports is up to you because it is an option. CE From: singh...@erols.com mailto:singh...@erols.com To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
RE: [LegacyUG] When to use AKAs
Yes to both … AKA as in Also Known As … By self or others in my view … C.G. Ouimet Kingston ON From: lio . [mailto:likeitouts...@hotmail.com] Sent: January 11, 2014 05:51 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] When to use AKAs Thanks to everyone for your replies. I'm still fuzzy on it though. A Scottish ancestor's birth name was Ewen, but after a few years in Canada he started going by Evan. So, I entered Evan as an AKA. Often he on documents he is recorded as Ivan. He never signs Ivan, but others (perhaps having trouble with his Scottish accent) would record him as Ivan. 1. Would you record Ivan as an AKA? He never went by it, but was often recorded as it. 2. What about the times Ewen was recorded as Ewan or Ewon. Spelling mistakes. Would you record Ewan and Ewon as an AKA? Sorry for asking my question again, but had to use some personal examples for better understanding. Leo From: singh...@erols.com To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] When to use AKAs Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2014 15:28:50 -0500 You could be right, of course. Cheryl CE WOOD wrote: The main reason for me to use many AKAs is the same as an earlier poster - so I can find information about someone when that person is referred to by one of his sometimes many AKAs. When searching the index of a book, say, knowing all the names a person has been called (not being funny here), makes it possible to know if that person has been mentioned in the book. For me, with thousands of medieval and earlier individuals, people were often a duke of this, an earl of that, a comet od the other, etc. The women too. These titles changed too; some were added, some were taken away by a king, then restored; some were called differently depending whether the author was Italian, French, Welsh, etc. Here's one with only a few AKAs that are very relevant when searching: England, AEthelwulf, King of Wessex, AEthelwulf, King of England and West Saxons, AEthelwulf, King of And then the women: Northumberland, AEthelreda of Allerdale, AEthelreda of Dunbar, AEthelreda of Dunbar, Octreda of Northumbria, Uchtreda of Northumbria, Sibyl Björnsdóttir of Bearsson, Sibylla Northumbria, AElfled of Northumbria, Suben Björnsdóttir of Don't get me listing all the Welsh and Celtic AKAs that you need to research any one individual in those lands! While I'm working on someone, I remember that, say, that: Clare, Gilbert the Red de -was also known as- Gloucester, 6th Earl Gilbert the Red de Clare, of -as well as- Hertford, 7th Earl Gilbert the Red de Clare, of But when I'm working on someone else, I may have forgotten, so when I come upon reference to the 6th Earl of Gloucester or the 7th Earl of Hertford, I can find out by a simple search of my index if this is someone I want know more about. I also use AKAs to have French royalty, say, listed together in the index with an AKA of France even if she had a last name. Of course, many of those were not known by a last name, she would be known as Marguerite of France, say. As far as that goes, the Plantagenets were never known as Plantagenets. That is a fabricated last name to help us. Edmund, Earl of Cambridge was also known as Edmund of Langley, as Edmund, Duke of York, but not as Edmund Plantagenet. It helps us to put in that he was the 1st Duke of York and to use Plantagenet as a last name, but Plantagenet of actually an AKA. All of this says nothing about the fact that English spelling was not standardized until the 1800s, American English even later. Read any early English or American wills for examples of spelling variations of the same word within the same document. To sum up, AKAs make research easier. What you want to put in your reports depends on your audience. CE Cheers, Carolyn From: singh...@erols.com To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] When to use AKAs Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2014 13:16:42 -0500 And, if one does NOT print them on reports, one will be answering questions of the But the name's wrong on that deed variety. And, recording 36 different AKAs on 200 different people gets a bit tricky too as one deliberates on whether one includes qwsrf on father and both sons when it has been spotted only father and one son. Then too why bother inputting something you don't want to output? Brian L. Lightfoot wrote: I was going to say “good point†to Cheryl’s comment but your response is even “gooderâ€Â. Legacy makes these things all so flexible for the user. Just gotta love a program that does that! *From:*CE WOOD [mailto:wood...@msn.com] *Sent:* Thursday, January 09, 2014 12:01 PM *To:* LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com *Subject:* RE: [LegacyUG]
[LegacyUG] HELP! Improper update v 8
Hello, Now I have a problem, likely of my doing, but want to know what to do next.. Yesterday, I converted a copy of my 7.5 to v 8 and was working on files; today I went to install the latest build 367 from Dec 20, It says installed but the folder with the data has totally disappeared out of the installation folder; In My documents, all I see is a zip folder labeled Backup from yesterday as a zip file. However, when I try to open the file from within v 8, by going to “open” file, the current, new v 8 file is NOT listed, And what I downloaded is listed as “sample” file. When I tried to run the install again a second time, first it said program may not have installed correctly, Then it said it “may not have installed” correctly. I’m guessing I made a mistake to run “install” instead of “update”? But then what happened to my open file? What do I do next? Thanks for any help., . . Pam Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] HELP! Improper update v 8
Hi Pam, You do not OPEN a backup, you RESTORE it: -- Open Legacy -- Click on File Restore File -- Navigate to where your backup is located, select the backup (the .zip folder) and click on the Open button -- Tell Legacy where you want the data file located, and what to call it, then click on the Save button -- Then you're asked you if you want to open that newly-restored data file. ... and you're done. Hope this helps. :-) Kind Regards, Wendy Pam Gosling said the following on 12/01/2014 12:14 p.m.: Hello, Now I have a problem, likely of my doing, but want to know what to do next.. Yesterday, I converted a copy of my 7.5 to v 8 and was working on files; today I went to install the latest build 367 from Dec 20, It says installed but the folder with the data has totally disappeared out of the installation folder; In My documents, all I see is a zip folder labeled Backup from yesterday as a zip file. However, when I try to open the file from within v 8, by going to “open†file, the current, new v 8 file is NOT listed, And what I downloaded is listed as “sample†file. When I tried to run the install again a second time, first it said program may not have installed correctly, Then it said it “may not have installed†correctly. I’m guessing I made a mistake to run “install†instead of “update� But then what happened to my open file? What do I do next? Thanks for any help., . . Pam Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] f/u re improper download
Thanks Wendy, ok, went to restore, gave me a choice of folders within the Zip Manager files(?), and I selected the only one with the blue dot icon on the left and it won’t open, flashes something on the screen that looks like it will open but doesn’t. Is this the right place I should be? Meanwhile, before your message to “restore”, I had opened one of the zip files already and it seemed to open, but I closed that again since when I tried the restore route it asked me to close all open files, would that have made a difference? And when I do get it open, why did I lose my folder in My Documents? I have not tried to put anything in a different place that the program assigns. And second issue, it DID NOT SAVE some of the data I entered yesterday, even thought I HAD backed/saved up everything before I shut it down for the night. This happened repeatedly while I was entering data, specifically for adding a spouse and entering a cemetery /burial name AND the source associated with it. At first I attributed it to me forgetting to click on “save” after I clicked/finished source documentation, but then it happened too many times for it to be my issue. ..do I have a glitch somewhere? Thanks, Pam Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] Update again on restore issue
Ok, when I reentered the program again, it asked me to backup 1 file, and when the program opened, it showed me that the new build took, but took on the backup zip file of 3:40 in the afternoon, not the latest zip file of 10:51(after I had entered data for several hours); the later zip folder of 10:51 shows up in my recovered files, and the newly named update/copy that I was trying to make still doesn't show up in my open file list within the program, but it does open. But then it asked me if I wanted to copy/renew to new format again? I didn't do that yet, thinking something is very confused here. . .(besides me).. .should I start over? Or. . .??? I don't want to mess it up any further. .. Pam Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Update again on restore issue
Hi Pam, I think you should contact Support and get their one-on-one help at this stage. :-) supp...@legacyfamilytree.com Kind Regards, Wendy Pam Gosling said the following on 12/01/2014 1:25 p.m.: Ok, when I reentered the program again, it asked me to backup 1 file, and when the program opened, it showed me that the new build took, but took on the backup zip file of 3:40 in the afternoon, not the latest zip file of 10:51(after I had entered data for several hours); the later zip folder of 10:51 shows up in my recovered files, and the newly named update/copy that I was trying to make still doesn't show up in my open file list within the program, but it does open. But then it asked me if I wanted to copy/renew to new format again? I didn't do that yet, thinking something is very confused here. . .(besides me).. .should I start over? Or. . .??? I don't want to mess it up any further. .. Pam Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] When to use AKAs
Leo, I'm pretty much a rookie, so keep that in mind while reading my reply. Since he was often recorded as Ivan, I would list that as an AKA. This could help others find information that might not be found otherwise. For your second question, I'll answer with how I handled a similar problem. As stated in my original post, my ancestor, Ladendorf, was listed as Lander in the 1860 census. Under the AKAs, I listed Lander (1860 census) since I viewed this as an isolated instance. Others viewing this will immediately know this is an isolated case, and they will know where to find him in the 1860 census. I think this will work. On Jan 11, 2014, at 4:51 PM, lio . likeitouts...@hotmail.com wrote: Thanks to everyone for your replies. I'm still fuzzy on it though. A Scottish ancestor's birth name was Ewen, but after a few years in Canada he started going by Evan. So, I entered Evan as an AKA. Often he on documents he is recorded as Ivan. He never signs Ivan, but others (perhaps having trouble with his Scottish accent) would record him as Ivan. 1. Would you record Ivan as an AKA? He never went by it, but was often recorded as it. 2. What about the times Ewen was recorded as Ewan or Ewon. Spelling mistakes. Would you record Ewan and Ewon as an AKA? Sorry for asking my question again, but had to use some personal examples for better understanding. Leo From: singh...@erols.com To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] When to use AKAs Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2014 15:28:50 -0500 You could be right, of course. Cheryl CE WOOD wrote: The main reason for me to use many AKAs is the same as an earlier poster - so I can find information about someone when that person is referred to by one of his sometimes many AKAs. When searching the index of a book, say, knowing all the names a person has been called (not being funny here), makes it possible to know if that person has been mentioned in the book. For me, with thousands of medieval and earlier individuals, people were often a duke of this, an earl of that, a comet od the other, etc. The women too. These titles changed too; some were added, some were taken away by a king, then restored; some were called differently depending whether the author was Italian, French, Welsh, etc. Here's one with only a few AKAs that are very relevant when searching: England, AEthelwulf, King of Wessex, AEthelwulf, King of England and West Saxons, AEthelwulf, King of And then the women: Northumberland, AEthelreda of Allerdale, AEthelreda of Dunbar, AEthelreda of Dunbar, Octreda of Northumbria, Uchtreda of Northumbria, Sibyl Björnsdóttir of Bearsson, Sibylla Northumbria, AElfled of Northumbria, Suben Björnsdóttir of Don't get me listing all the Welsh and Celtic AKAs that you need to research any one individual in those lands! While I'm working on someone, I remember that, say, that: Clare, Gilbert the Red de -was also known as- Gloucester, 6th Earl Gilbert the Red de Clare, of -as well as- Hertford, 7th Earl Gilbert the Red de Clare, of But when I'm working on someone else, I may have forgotten, so when I come upon reference to the 6th Earl of Gloucester or the 7th Earl of Hertford, I can find out by a simple search of my index if this is someone I want know more about. I also use AKAs to have French royalty, say, listed together in the index with an AKA of France even if she had a last name. Of course, many of those were not known by a last name, she would be known as Marguerite of France, say. As far as that goes, the Plantagenets were never known as Plantagenets. That is a fabricated last name to help us. Edmund, Earl of Cambridge was also known as Edmund of Langley, as Edmund, Duke of York, but not as Edmund Plantagenet. It helps us to put in that he was the 1st Duke of York and to use Plantagenet as a last name, but Plantagenet of actually an AKA. All of this says nothing about the fact that English spelling was not standardized until the 1800s, American English even later. Read any early English or American wills for examples of spelling variations of the same word within the same document. To sum up, AKAs make research easier. What you want to put in your reports depends on your audience. CE Cheers, Carolyn From: singh...@erols.com To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] When to use AKAs Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2014 13:16:42 -0500 And, if one does NOT print them on reports, one will be answering questions of the But the name's wrong on that deed variety. And, recording 36 different AKAs on 200 different people gets a bit tricky too as one deliberates on whether one includes qwsrf on father
RE: [LegacyUG] Dates
Hi Sherry and Michele: Leo's question about dates has me thinking, and I'm curious about your answers. For the example below: Name: Bob Smith Born: December 1, 2013 Father: John Smith Occupation: Farmer Residence: Toronto, Ontario Registered by John Smith / Father Date Registered: December 10, 2013 I can see December 1 as the date of the event itself. But because the event was not registered the same day as the birth, would it not be truer to assume that the Occupation and Residence of the father was probably as of December 10, the registration date? Or am I too focused on minutia? Thanks very much, Rob Miller Toronto, ON From: mich...@legacyfamilytree.com To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Dates Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2014 16:49:41 -0500 I agree with Sherry. I do the same thing with obituaries. I add residence events for the listed surviving family members but I use the date of death, not the day the obituary came out. Michele Technical Support mich...@legacyfamilytree.com www.LegacyFamilyTree.com -Original Message- From: Sherry/Support [mailto:she...@legacyfamilytree.com] Sent: Friday, January 10, 2014 12:40 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Dates I would use the date of the event, not the date it was registered. You can enter the date it was registered in the Source Detail, depending on the format you're using. It could be entered in the Text filed under the Text/Comments tab. The only time you would use a registration date is if you don't have the actual date of the event, in which case you'd enter bef 3 Dec Sincerely, Sherry Technical Support Legacy Family Tree On Fri, Jan 10, 2014 at 9:29 AM, lio . likeitouts...@hotmail.com wrote: Re-doing my database, has shown me many areas that I may have done improperly the first time. If if a birth occurred December 1, but was registered December 3, which date do you use when recording occupations, residences, and other side information found on the document? Most likely people did not change jobs, or move in those few days between, but i'm sure some did. I used to use the event date, i.e. December 1, but now I wonder if I should have used the registration date of December 3. Sorry, I know this is not really a legacy question, except that I want to input the information properly into my legacy file. Leo Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Dates
I think too much minutia. I think of Registered as the date the paperwork gets posted at the applicable government office which may be several days after the paperwork is filled out. However, your wording below implies that it might be the day the father signed the paperwork. From: robs_familytree . [mailto:robs_familyt...@hotmail.ca] Sent: Saturday, January 11, 2014 8:41 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Dates Hi Sherry and Michele: Leo's question about dates has me thinking, and I'm curious about your answers. For the example below: Name: Bob Smith Born: December 1, 2013 Father: John Smith Occupation: Farmer Residence: Toronto, Ontario Registered by John Smith / Father Date Registered: December 10, 2013 I can see December 1 as the date of the event itself. But because the event was not registered the same day as the birth, would it not be truer to assume that the Occupation and Residence of the father was probably as of December 10, the registration date? Or am I too focused on minutia? Thanks very much, Rob Miller Toronto, ON From: mich...@legacyfamilytree.com To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Dates Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2014 16:49:41 -0500 I agree with Sherry. I do the same thing with obituaries. I add residence events for the listed surviving family members but I use the date of death, not the day the obituary came out. Michele Technical Support mich...@legacyfamilytree.com www.LegacyFamilyTree.com -Original Message- From: Sherry/Support [mailto:she...@legacyfamilytree.com] Sent: Friday, January 10, 2014 12:40 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Dates I would use the date of the event, not the date it was registered. You can enter the date it was registered in the Source Detail, depending on the format you're using. It could be entered in the Text filed under the Text/Comments tab. The only time you would use a registration date is if you don't have the actual date of the event, in which case you'd enter bef 3 Dec Sincerely, Sherry Technical Support Legacy Family Tree On Fri, Jan 10, 2014 at 9:29 AM, lio . likeitouts...@hotmail.com wrote: Re-doing my database, has shown me many areas that I may have done improperly the first time. If if a birth occurred December 1, but was registered December 3, which date do you use when recording occupations, residences, and other side information found on the document? Most likely people did not change jobs, or move in those few days between, but i'm sure some did. I used to use the event date, i.e. December 1, but now I wonder if I should have used the registration date of December 3. Sorry, I know this is not really a legacy question, except that I want to input the information properly into my legacy file. Leo Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Dates
It would probably seem as trivial detail for me when I consider that for most ancestors, if I can find out their occupations every ten years, then I think I'm doing well. Occasionally with directories etc, we can get down to yearly for awhile, but that is rarer information. Graham On 12/01/2014 1:40 PM, robs_familytree . wrote: Hi Sherry and Michele: Leo's question about dates has me thinking, and I'm curious about your answers. For the example below: *Name: Bob Smith* *Born: December 1, 2013 * ** *Father: John Smith* *Occupation: Farmer Residence: Toronto, Ontario Registered by John Smith / Father* *Date Registered: December 10, 2013* I can see December 1 as the date of the event itself. But because the event was not registered the same day as the birth, would it not be truer to assume that the Occupation and Residence of the father was probably as of December 10, the registration date? Or am I too focused on minutia? Thanks very much, Rob Miller Toronto, ON Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] File ID's
Is there any way to clear all File ID's with one (or two) clicks? A previously used program has filled these fields with gibberish and they are a right royal pain and have no relevance whatsoever to my files. I'd like to be able to clear them and actually use those fields for their intended purpose in a way that makes logical sense to a human being. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Dates
The father could have died between December 1 and 10. I would use the date of birth rather than the registration date. I have an example: My great grandfather died on April 1, 1930 at 10am, but he is listed in the 1930 census on April 5, 1930 as father to head of household. I was told the day the census taker came to his house he was lying in a casket in the front parlor. The census form shows to name each person whose place of abode on April 1, 1930 was in this family. His occupation would have ceased at 10am on April 1, 1930. Anyone just using this census would not know he had died before April 5, 1930 unless they had seen an obituary. According to records, he was actually buried on April 4 so the date of the census or that family lore about being in the casket in the parlor seems to be wrong. It's ironic that he was a big practical joker then died on April Fool's Day. Bill Boswell From: robs_familytree . [mailto:robs_familyt...@hotmail.ca] Sent: Saturday, January 11, 2014 9:41 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Dates Hi Sherry and Michele: Leo's question about dates has me thinking, and I'm curious about your answers. For the example below: Name: Bob Smith Born: December 1, 2013 Father: John Smith Occupation: Farmer Residence: Toronto, Ontario Registered by John Smith / Father Date Registered: December 10, 2013 I can see December 1 as the date of the event itself. But because the event was not registered the same day as the birth, would it not be truer to assume that the Occupation and Residence of the father was probably as of December 10, the registration date? Or am I too focused on minutia? Thanks very much, Rob Miller Toronto, ON Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] Shared Events - witnesses, clergy, doctors, etc.
With Shared Events its suddenly easy to include lots of extras (people). Witnesses and Informants to events I think are definitely important. But what about clergy, doctors etc.? How important are they? Do you include them? Thanks for your direction. leo Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] When to use AKAs
Hi Leo, I think this a is a very individual thing. I record an AKA when my ancestors sometimes use their second name; other instances are when they are known for example, as Jack or Jock for John. Any of the very many spelling mistakes, I only record in the Notes. But that's just me. Graham On 12/01/2014 9:51 AM, lio . wrote: Thanks to everyone for your replies. I'm still fuzzy on it though. A Scottish ancestor's birth name was Ewen, but after a few years in Canada he started going by Evan. So, I entered Evan as an AKA. Often he on documents he is recorded as Ivan. He never signs Ivan, but others (perhaps having trouble with his Scottish accent) would record him as Ivan. 1. Would you record Ivan as an AKA? He never went by it, but was often recorded as it. 2. What about the times Ewen was recorded as Ewan or Ewon. Spelling mistakes. Would you record Ewan and Ewon as an AKA? Sorry for asking my question again, but had to use some personal examples for better understanding. Leo Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] File ID's
Hi Kathy, Do you mean the field called User ID? I'm also assuming you're using Legacy v8.0.0.367, which is the latest build as I type this reply. I've never used this particular field, so opened up my file, opened the Individual's Information window for a person, clicked in the User ID field to get the cursor there, and then pressed F1 to bring up the Help on that topic. The Help pointed me to the Customise window, where option 12.4 deals with the User ID field. If you go to that, you'll see there's a button to Clear all User IDs Have you tried using that? Make a backup or copy of your data file first, before trying this, in case you're not pleased with the result and want to go back to before you started that exercise. Please let us know how you get on with it. :-) Kind Regards, Wendy Kathy Thompson said the following on 12/01/2014 4:27 p.m.: Is there any way to clear all File ID's with one (or two) clicks? A previously used program has filled these fields with gibberish and they are a right royal pain and have no relevance whatsoever to my files. I'd like to be able to clear them and actually use those fields for their intended purpose in a way that makes logical sense to a human being. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] When to use AKAs
Graham, et al, I agree this usage is very much up to the user. However, I have found much of my information from Ancestry.com based upon searches using misspelled names, therefore, I keep them all. I use the name I am familiar with as the preferred name but the rest are there if ever I need them with a note about where and when the AKA was used. Larry Lee ldlee...@gmail.com On Sat, Jan 11, 2014 at 7:30 PM, Graham Lambert gra...@bigpond.net.auwrote: Hi Leo, I think this a is a very individual thing. I record an AKA when my ancestors sometimes use their second name; other instances are when they are known for example, as Jack or Jock for John. Any of the very many spelling mistakes, I only record in the Notes. But that's just me. Graham On 12/01/2014 9:51 AM, lio . wrote: Thanks to everyone for your replies. I'm still fuzzy on it though.  A Scottish ancestor's birth name was Ewen, but after a few years in Canada he started going by Evan.  So, I entered Evan as an AKA.  Often he on documents he is recorded as Ivan. He never signs Ivan, but others (perhaps having trouble with his Scottish accent) would record him as Ivan.  1. Would you record Ivan as an AKA? He never went by it, but was often recorded as it.  2. What about the times Ewen was recorded as Ewan or Ewon. Spelling mistakes. Would you record Ewan and Ewon as an AKA? Sorry for asking my question again, but had to use some personal examples for better understanding.  Leo Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Dates
Rob - I think you are too focused on the minute details - I record the date of birth, and then record the occupation with a note as per (other document) for (relative's name) Bill - good example and one to watch for I guess - but it's a bit hard for a deceased person to register a birth as in Rob's example On 12 January 2014 13:48, William Boswell whbosw...@gmail.com wrote: The father could have died between December 1 and 10. I would use the date of birth rather than the registration date. I have an example: My great grandfather died on April 1, 1930 at 10am, but he is listed in the 1930 census on April 5, 1930 as father to head of household. I was told the day the census taker came to his house he was lying in a casket in the front parlor. The census form shows to name each person whose place of abode on April 1, 1930 was in this family. His occupation would have ceased at 10am on April 1, 1930. Anyone just using this census would not know he had died before April 5, 1930 unless they had seen an obituary. According to records, he was actually buried on April 4 so the date of the census or that family lore about being in the casket in the parlor seems to be wrong. It's ironic that he was a big practical joker then died on April Fool's Day. Bill Boswell *From:* robs_familytree . [mailto:robs_familyt...@hotmail.ca] *Sent:* Saturday, January 11, 2014 9:41 PM *To:* LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com *Subject:* RE: [LegacyUG] Dates Hi Sherry and Michele: Leo's question about dates has me thinking, and I'm curious about your answers. For the example below: *Name: Bob Smith* *Born: **December 1, 2013 * *Father: John Smith* *Occupation: Farmer* *Residence: Toronto, OntarioRegistered by John Smith / Father* *Date Registered: **December 10, 2013* I can see December 1 as the date of the event itself. But because the event was not registered the same day as the birth, would it not be truer to assume that the Occupation and Residence of the father was probably as of December 10, the registration date? Or am I too focused on minutia? Thanks very much, Rob Miller Toronto, ON Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Shared Events - witnesses, clergy, doctors, etc.
I only include them in the notes if I suspect or know them to be someone famous or relevant to the family in general - for example, a family may have lived in one town for 50 years and every single baptism, marriage and burial in that time was conducted by the same priest, alternatively - a dr who did the pm or certified the death may have made a big discovery and now be a well known name. They are the human interest points that make the stories just that bit more interesting. I don't include them in the tree as separate people though, they are only mentioned in notes On 12 January 2014 13:49, lio . likeitouts...@hotmail.com wrote: With Shared Events its suddenly easy to include lots of extras (people). Witnesses and Informants to events I think are definitely important. But what about clergy, doctors etc.? How important are they? Do you include them? Thanks for your direction. leo Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] File ID's
No, I am not meaning the field known as UserID - I have populated that one myself and am happy with it. I am referring to File ID - it's to do with sources and appears on the Source Detail tab right down the bottom On 12 January 2014 14:02, Wendy Howard wendy.how...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Kathy, Do you mean the field called User ID? I'm also assuming you're using Legacy v8.0.0.367, which is the latest build as I type this reply. I've never used this particular field, so opened up my file, opened the Individual's Information window for a person, clicked in the User ID field to get the cursor there, and then pressed F1 to bring up the Help on that topic. The Help pointed me to the Customise window, where option 12.4 deals with the User ID field. If you go to that, you'll see there's a button to Clear all User IDs Have you tried using that? Make a backup or copy of your data file first, before trying this, in case you're not pleased with the result and want to go back to before you started that exercise. Please let us know how you get on with it. :-) Kind Regards, Wendy Kathy Thompson said the following on 12/01/2014 4:27 p.m.: Is there any way to clear all File ID's with one (or two) clicks? A previously used program has filled these fields with gibberish and they are a right royal pain and have no relevance whatsoever to my files. I'd like to be able to clear them and actually use those fields for their intended purpose in a way that makes logical sense to a human being. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Dates
Actually, the census is correct. It is important to understand the rules about census data: The census day was NOT the day the enumerator arrived at a household; it was the day for which all the statistics of the census were collected. The instructions given to all the U.S. Marshals just prior to the 1820 census explain: All the questions refer to the day when the enumeration is to commence, the first Monday in August next. Your assistants will thereby understand that they are to insert in their returns all the persons belonging to the family on the first Monday in August, even those who may be deceased at the time when they take the account; and, on the other hand, that they will not include in it infants born after that day. Similar instructions have been given for every census since 1790, but with different census days. The table below shows the census day for each census, 1790 to 1930, and the time allowed to take the census: Census Year / Census Day / Time Allowed 1790 / 2 August / 9 months 1800 / 4 August / 9 months 1810 / 6 August / 10 months 1820 / 7 August / 13 months 1830 / 1 June / 12 months 1840 / 1 June / 18 months 1850 / 1 June / 5 months 1860 / 1 June / 5 months 1870/ 1 June / 5 months 1880 / 1 June/ 1 month 1890 / 1 June / 1 month 1900 / 1 June / 1 month 1910 / 15 April / 1 month 1920 / 1 January / 1 month 1930 / 1 April / 1 month He was alive on 1 April 1930, albeit, for only 10 hours, but he was alive, so the census is correct. CE From: whbosw...@gmail.com To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Dates Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2014 22:48:26 -0500 snip My great grandfather died on April 1, 1930 at 10am, but he is listed in the 1930 census on April 5, 1930 as father to head of household. I was told the day the census taker came to his house he was lying in a casket in the front parlor. The census form shows to name each person whose place of abode on April 1, 1930 was in this family. His occupation would have ceased at 10am on April 1, 1930. Anyone just using this census would not know he had died before April 5, 1930 unless they had seen an obituary. According to records, he was actually buried on April 4 so the date of the census or that family lore about being in the casket in the parlor seems to be wrong. It's ironic that he was a big practical joker then died on April Fool's Day. Bill Boswell Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] File ID's
On 2014/01/12 06:18, Kathy Thompson wrote: No, I am not meaning the field known as UserID - I have populated that one myself and am happy with it. I am referring to File ID - it's to do with sources and appears on the Source Detail tab right down the bottom Will Search Replace help? You can search for a) Source-File ID b) Citation-File ID c) To-Do-File ID The only problem would be the Find what data since you say it contains gibberish. Any pattern to the gibberish? -- Regards, Mike Fry Johannesburg (g) Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] Source Clipboards 1 to 5
I've searched the help files, I can't see the answer. Can someone Please explain to me How to use the 5 different Source clipboards? I can't even work out how to get more than one source on there at this point. In that explanation, please tell me if all 5 clipboards get pasted at once, or if only the active on top clipboard gets pasted. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] File ID's
but you are a genius Mike - that method works brilliantly - slow but a darn site quicker than the alternative! Thanks On 12 January 2014 17:50, Kathy Thompson kmthoms...@gmail.com wrote: yes - every single File ID is along the lines of 1,7884::30370810 - with different numbers after the 1, it makes no sense, I have no files with those or similar names On 12 January 2014 17:45, MikeFry emjay...@gmail.com wrote: On 2014/01/12 06:18, Kathy Thompson wrote: No, I am not meaning the field known as UserID - I have populated that one myself and am happy with it. I am referring to File ID - it's to do with sources and appears on the Source Detail tab right down the bottom Will Search Replace help? You can search for a) Source-File ID b) Citation-File ID c) To-Do-File ID The only problem would be the Find what data since you say it contains gibberish. Any pattern to the gibberish? -- Regards, Mike Fry Johannesburg (g) Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp