[LegacyUG] Phantom marriages

2014-04-07 Thread singhals
I'm having challenges adding parents to people.  APPARENTLY
it matters whether I use Add/add mother, Add/add spouse, or
simply click in correct empty box.

I find the death record for X; it gives his parents.  If I
click on the father's box, sometimes the data-entry screen
appears but sometimes the ADD/Link dialogue appears.
Whichever way I do it, when I try to add the mother, it
creates a 2nd marriage for the father.  Often it also
disassociates X from the father.  I've ended up with as many
as 11 children, 5 attached to the father one per marriage, 5
attached to the mother one per marriage, and 1 attached to
the couple.

Yes, I can /fix/ it (either by merging or by
unlinking/relinking) but it ought to not-necessary to fix it.

I'm running .385 deluxe on a win 7-32bit. This challenge
also occurs om 7.5 basic.

Cheryl



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Re: [LegacyUG] Phantom marriages

2014-04-07 Thread Mary Young
I find it cleaner to
(1) Make a note of the child's RIN
(2) Set up the parents, as a couple
(3) Attach the child.
Mary


On 7 April 2014 15:44, singhals singh...@erols.com wrote:

 I'm having challenges adding parents to people.  APPARENTLY
 it matters whether I use Add/add mother, Add/add spouse, or
 simply click in correct empty box.

 I find the death record for X; it gives his parents.  If I
 click on the father's box, sometimes the data-entry screen
 appears but sometimes the ADD/Link dialogue appears.
 Whichever way I do it, when I try to add the mother, it
 creates a 2nd marriage for the father.  Often it also
 disassociates X from the father.  I've ended up with as many
 as 11 children, 5 attached to the father one per marriage, 5
 attached to the mother one per marriage, and 1 attached to
 the couple.

 Yes, I can /fix/ it (either by merging or by
 unlinking/relinking) but it ought to not-necessary to fix it.

 I'm running .385 deluxe on a win 7-32bit. This challenge
 also occurs om 7.5 basic.

 Cheryl




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Re: [LegacyUG] Phantom marriages

2014-04-07 Thread MikeFry
On 07 Apr 2014 17:04, Mary Young wrote:

 I find it cleaner to
 (1) Make a note of the child's RIN
 (2) Set up the parents, as a couple
 (3) Attach the child.

But you shouldn't have to be restricted to doing it this way.

--
Regards,
Mike Fry
Johannesburg (g)



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Re: [LegacyUG] Phantom marriages

2014-04-07 Thread MikeFry
On 07 Apr 2014 16:44, singhals wrote:

 I find the death record for X; it gives his parents.  If I
 click on the father's box, sometimes the data-entry screen
 appears but sometimes the ADD/Link dialogue appears.

In 7.5/278, I have a person in Family View with no father. I click on the empty
father box and the phantom parents (no RINs assigned) move down making the
original person one of their children. This allows me to add a sibling to the
original person without necessarily knowing who the parents were.

With the same setup, a right-click on the empty father box produces the Add
dialog where I can select to add either a new person link an existing person as
the father. If this is repeated to add a mother, then the mother is wedded to
the new father. Which is what you want.

So, it seems that left- and right-clicks operate differently.

--
Regards,
Mike Fry
Johannesburg (g)



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Re: [LegacyUG] importing from Ancestry

2014-04-07 Thread Ward Walker
Last year I received a large FTM-generated GEDCOM with multimedia links, and a 
DVD with all the photos and documents. The GEDCOM says “Family Tree Maker 
(21.0.0.723)”. When I imported the GEDCOM into Legacy 7.5, I was able to 
successfully link the media files. There was one problem, however. The FTM 
export encodes the preferred picture for an individual in a different way than 
Legacy does. The Legacy import did not handle this (presumably non-standard) 
encoding well, causing each individual to have an extra (unlinked) mystery 
picture as the preferred picture. Thus, nothing was displayed in Family View, 
but the media gallery for the individual showed all of the linked 
pictures/documents. I had to delete the mystery picture and manually select the 
preferred picture.

I reported the issue to Millennia. Recently, I had the opportunity to try the 
same GEDCOM with Legacy 8. Unfortunately, this time none of the pictures were 
linked at all. In fact, the references to the media all had missing filenames!  
I have only recently reported this. There is no workaround/repair possible, 
other than manually linking every file.

With Legacy 7.5, I had a few other import issues not related to media, but 
caused by non-standard GEDCOM and/or non-standard FTM practices. These are 
essentially fixed in Legacy 8, with some minor cosmetic glitches still 
remaining. And when I say ‘fixed’, I mean that Legacy programmers have kindly 
implemented special handling to work around bad FTM export coding. I appreciate 
this effort.

One big headache that is out of Legacy’s control is that every FTM-generated 
GEDCOM that I have received contains bad practices: non-dates in date fields, 
non-locations in location fields, multiple variants of the same location, 
middle initials missing the period, events that don’t read properly, etc.

   Ward
From: William Boswell
Sent: Sunday, April 06, 2014 9:56 AM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] importing from Ancestry

The owner of the online tree only has the options of downloading to FTM or a 
GEDCOM file.  The GEDCOM you can download directly from within your tree.  If 
you want all the images, you'll have to purchase a copy of FTM for that.  Once 
the images are saved locally to your hard drive you should be able to export to 
a GEDCOM and save the image paths.  I know this works from Legacy to FTM 
because I do it all the time, but from FTM to Legacy I'm not sure.  I'll have 
to try it sometime.  I only use FTM to find records at Ancestry because Legacy 
is a better program.



Bill Boswell



From: Ann Brown [mailto:cookiebrow...@gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2014 10:53 AM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] importing from Ancestry



thank you both for that information.  I was just about to download all that 
info.  Yuck...  I wish I could use this program



On Sat, Apr 5, 2014 at 10:24 AM, Ron Bernier ronaldbern...@bernfrin.net wrote:

Ann,



Other than Family Tree Maker (owned by Ancestry.com) you wont find a program 
that can accept a download from Ancestry.  Regardless of which program you use, 
you will only be able to import a GEDCOM from Ancestry.



Ron Bernier
Woonsocket, RI

On Sat, Apr 5, 2014 at 10:02 AM, Ann Brown cookiebrow...@gmail.com wrote:

Good Morning everyone,

I am brand new to Legacy, having just downloaded the free version to practice 
with.  I have been using RootsMagic for 10 years.  I want to import my Ancestry 
tree to my computer with the photos and copies of the documents that I have 
attached to my people.  Is that possible with Legacy?  I have read most of the 
info but nothing is mentioned about Ancestry ...just FamilyTree and 
familysearch.



Can someone give some advice.  I am in the market for a product that will do 
this and since Legacy is #1 I would hope it would do this.

I have also thought about another product as well.



Thanking you in advance.



   Ann Brown




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Re: [LegacyUG] Phantom marriages

2014-04-07 Thread Kathy Meyer
I just did quite a bit of adding individuals and their parents and had no
trouble like this.  I has another marriage duplicates issue and the new
people were fine. I create the person x and then click on thr parent box,
get the pop up, choose add father/mother, enter that data, then cick on thr
spouse to add theirs. I'm using left clicks. Right clicks will bring up
options depending on the part of the screen clicked.  If you add siblings
without parents - as previously noted - it will create a set of unknown
parents.  Is this what you're getting or is it two marriage events to the
same person?  I agree you shouldn't have to go through unlinking for every
family

Kathy

On Monday, April 7, 2014, MikeFry emjay...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 07 Apr 2014 16:44, singhals wrote:

  I find the death record for X; it gives his parents.  If I
  click on the father's box, sometimes the data-entry screen
  appears but sometimes the ADD/Link dialogue appears.

 In 7.5/278, I have a person in Family View with no father. I click on the
 empty
 father box and the phantom parents (no RINs assigned) move down making the
 original person one of their children. This allows me to add a sibling to
 the
 original person without necessarily knowing who the parents were.

 With the same setup, a right-click on the empty father box produces the Add
 dialog where I can select to add either a new person link an existing
 person as
 the father. If this is repeated to add a mother, then the mother is wedded
 to
 the new father. Which is what you want.

 So, it seems that left- and right-clicks operate differently.

 --
 Regards,
 Mike Fry
 Johannesburg (g)



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[LegacyUG] Toolbar problems, et al

2014-04-07 Thread magnoliasouth
I have just now upgraded to 8.0.0.414 Deluxe from 6.x Deluxe. I'm not
loving it yet and that's putting it lightly. The only serious
difference I see is visual, which to me matters least. What I was
hoping for was better function. Such as typing in Dekalb as a location
and getting a list of everything (in my Locations list) with the word
Dekalb in it. I was greatly disappointed to see that this still hasn't
been fixed. I cannot fathom why.

Not to mention, that I have gotten more error messages today (my first
day with 8) than I ever did the entire time I've been using previous
Legacy versions... which is about .. I don't know... a lot of years.

Anyway, that's not why I'm here. I'm here because I wanted to see if
anyone else has had problems with the custom toolbar. I spent a great
deal of time figuring out what it was that I wanted and didn't want.
Satisfied, I went to make a simple edit (I was citing a Master Source
for a Residence) in my file. I got an error message, the software
crashed and my toolbar disappeared into thin air. *poof!*

Is this the kind of thing that I have to look forward to now? Tons of
glitches and it not remembering anything? I'm GREATLY disappointed and
am thankful that I didn't uninstall 6.x. I'm also greatly disturbed
that I paid so much for a glitchy upgrade.

If the only enhancements are visual, because clearly other new
features are buggy, then I don't really see the point of the upgrade.

So! Has anyone else had this problem?
How can we fix this to make it the better software again?

TIA!

Cindy Lloyd



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[LegacyUG] Missing dates?????

2014-04-07 Thread MVMcgrs


I have had  to upgrade my computers to Win 7 pro [I've been an XP user].
I'm still  using Legacy 7.5 (Deluxe) and have all the upgrades. When I moved
my Legacy  files to my new DELL desktop almost all the dates are gone.

I used  restore but find that some of the people have years but no dates
and months. I  hoping it's just a case of not clicking the right button. They
are on the laptop  but did not transfer to the desktop.

Any ides  why?

Marie

Marie Varrelman Melchiori, CG, CGL
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RE: [LegacyUG] Missing dates?????

2014-04-07 Thread Paul Gray
Marie,



I suspect that there may be some inconsistencies in ‘date format settings’ 
either between Windows on the laptop and desktop, and/or between Legacy on the 
two machines. I would check date formats in both Windows and Legacy on both 
machines and see whether something looks inconsistent.



Paul



From: mvmc...@aol.com [mailto:mvmc...@aol.com]
Sent: April-07-14 2:59 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Missing dates?







I have had to upgrade my computers to Win 7 pro [I've been an XP user].  I'm 
still using Legacy 7.5 (Deluxe) and have all the upgrades. When I moved my 
Legacy files to my new DELL desktop almost all the dates are gone.



I used restore but find that some of the people have years but no dates and 
months. I hoping it's just a case of not clicking the right button. They are on 
the laptop but did not transfer to the desktop.



Any ides why?



Marie

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Re: [LegacyUG] Toolbar problems, et al

2014-04-07 Thread Lloyd Hite
On 4/7/2014 4:35 PM, magnoliasouth wrote:
 Is this the kind of thing that I have to look forward to now? Tons of
 glitches and it not remembering anything? I'm GREATLY disappointed and
 am thankful that I didn't uninstall 6.x. I'm also greatly disturbed
 that I paid so much for a glitchy upgrade.

 If the only enhancements are visual, because clearly other new
 features are buggy, then I don't really see the point of the upgrade.

 So! Has anyone else had this problem?
 How can we fix this to make it the better software again?
Hello,
I am glad you wrote this. I had the same problems when I was using
Version 8. I got tired of the crashing and went back to using version 7.5.

It will suprise me if anyone else responds to your e-mail. I have wrote
to LUG and no one, I repeat, no one answers my mail.

Good Luck,
Lloyd



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Re: [LegacyUG] Toolbar problems, et al

2014-04-07 Thread Jenny M Benson
On 07/04/2014 22:39, Lloyd Hite wrote:
 Is this the kind of thing that I have to look forward to now? Tons of
 glitches and it not remembering anything? I'm GREATLY disappointed and
 am thankful that I didn't uninstall 6.x. I'm also greatly disturbed
 that I paid so much for a glitchy upgrade.
 
 If the only enhancements are visual, because clearly other new
 features are buggy, then I don't really see the point of the upgrade.
 
 So! Has anyone else had this problem?

I did have a few problems - one serious one - when I first moved over to
version 8, but Legacy staff were very helpful over the serious problem
(which was fixed) and most of the little glitches that people found were
soon dealt with.

 How can we fix this to make it the better software again?

There are several ways, and not just cosmetic ones - in which Legacy 8
is better than earlier versions.  If you are still using Legacy 6 then
you have denied yourself many improvements and advanced facilities, but
if you feel you don't need them then that obviously isn't a problem to
you.  You will, though, find it increasingly difficult to get support as
Legacy 6 becomes more and more a distant memory.

 Hello,
 I am glad you wrote this. I had the same problems when I was using
 Version 8. I got tired of the crashing and went back to using version 7.5.

 It will suprise me if anyone else responds to your e-mail. I have wrote
 to LUG and no one, I repeat, no one answers my mail.

I am sorry you feel you haven't had any help from here, Lloyd, but you
should remember that this list is chiefly a users-helping-user group.
There will be times when someone posts in with a question to which none
of the LUGgers know the answer.  I'm sure I'm not the only one who
definitely does not want the list flooded with messages from people just
saying I don't know.  We are fortunately that members of the Support
staff do spend time here and will often post solutions to specific
problems or will answer specific questions about the software, but if
you feel you have identified a bug this should be notified to Legacy via
the link on the Legacy Home tag and if you have a particular difficulty
in using the software you should contact Support directly.


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[LegacyUG] Female font colour on main view

2014-04-07 Thread Noddie
	HelloI have just downloaded Legacy 8 deluxe and cannot figure out how to change the colour of the text for the females in the family view.Hope someone could guide me with this.Thanks so muchGwen
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Re: [LegacyUG] Female font colour on main view

2014-04-07 Thread R G Strong-genes
Goto the Options tab. Change Colors button. Click on one of the children. A 
window will open where you can change the text colors for male, female, and 
unknown.

From: Noddie
Sent: Monday, April 07, 2014 7:57 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Female font colour on main view

Hello

I have just downloaded Legacy 8 deluxe and cannot figure out how to change the 
colour of the text for the females in the family view.
Hope someone could guide me with this.

Thanks so much
Gwen




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Re: [LegacyUG] Female font colour on main view

2014-04-07 Thread Cathy Pinner
Hi Gwen,

Note there are quite a number of preset colour schemes to choose from
in Legacy 8 so before you start your own customising, you might want
to check them out and start from the one you like best - there are
far more than are offered during installation.

On the Options Ribbon, click Change Colours (or right clicking on an
empty space on Family View will bring up a menu with one of the
choices Change Colour Scheme - this gets you to the same place).

To try a different colour scheme click Choose an Alternate Colour Scheme
Note some have Tab as part of their name. This refers to the Header
style of the windows within Legacy and can be changed from Options -
Customise - 9.2 - so if you like the colours but prefer the other
Header style, that's the place to go.

Now for your question.  When in Change Colour Scheme mode - Click on
a Child. There you can choose different colours for male and female
and unknown gender.
These colours are used on Family View in the Child List only, in
Pedigree View and in Index View,

When you're happy with the colours, don't forget to save your scheme.
Use the Options button in the Pink box or the save at Options -
Customise - 9.

The look of Legacy is so customisable. The difficulty is that there
are 3 different places to go. The Pink box section (9.1); the 9.2
options (and that's where Home View colours are changed); and the
Options Tab Style and Tab Colour.  When you save a colour scheme you
save all these options.

Did I say just 3 different places?  Ribbon colour and style are set
from the Design drop down on the Ribbon.

The colour settings were one of the things I worked with in the
pre-release period. If you think they're complicated now and not all
you desire, you should have seen them then ;-)
More than you asked.

Have fun,
Cathy

At 07:57 AM 8/04/2014, you wrote:
Hello

I have just downloaded Legacy 8 deluxe and cannot figure out how to
change the colour of the text for the females in the family view.
Hope someone could guide me with this.

Thanks so much
Gwen
Land of the long white cloud -New Zealand




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Re: [LegacyUG] Toolbar problems, et al

2014-04-07 Thread Graham Lambert
Well said Jenny, and I agree wholeheartedly. The response from both
users and the Legacy staff is fantastic.
I guess if you only follow the replies when you have your own personal
problems, then you would miss the amazing amount of help on this list.

...and as you say, you can also contact Support directly.

Graham

On 8/04/2014 9:10 AM, Jenny M Benson wrote:
 On 07/04/2014 22:39, Lloyd Hite wrote:
 Is this the kind of thing that I have to look forward to now? Tons of
 glitches and it not remembering anything? I'm GREATLY disappointed and
 am thankful that I didn't uninstall 6.x. I'm also greatly disturbed
 that I paid so much for a glitchy upgrade.

 If the only enhancements are visual, because clearly other new
 features are buggy, then I don't really see the point of the upgrade.

 So! Has anyone else had this problem?
 I did have a few problems - one serious one - when I first moved over to
 version 8, but Legacy staff were very helpful over the serious problem
 (which was fixed) and most of the little glitches that people found were
 soon dealt with.

 How can we fix this to make it the better software again?
 There are several ways, and not just cosmetic ones - in which Legacy 8
 is better than earlier versions.  If you are still using Legacy 6 then
 you have denied yourself many improvements and advanced facilities, but
 if you feel you don't need them then that obviously isn't a problem to
 you.  You will, though, find it increasingly difficult to get support as
 Legacy 6 becomes more and more a distant memory.

 Hello,
 I am glad you wrote this. I had the same problems when I was using
 Version 8. I got tired of the crashing and went back to using version 7.5.

 It will suprise me if anyone else responds to your e-mail. I have wrote
 to LUG and no one, I repeat, no one answers my mail.
 I am sorry you feel you haven't had any help from here, Lloyd, but you
 should remember that this list is chiefly a users-helping-user group.
 There will be times when someone posts in with a question to which none
 of the LUGgers know the answer.  I'm sure I'm not the only one who
 definitely does not want the list flooded with messages from people just
 saying I don't know.  We are fortunately that members of the Support
 staff do spend time here and will often post solutions to specific
 problems or will answer specific questions about the software, but if
 you feel you have identified a bug this should be notified to Legacy via
 the link on the Legacy Home tag and if you have a particular difficulty
 in using the software you should contact Support directly.






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