[LegacyUG] Place names & sorting

[kaytt]

I have been using Legacy since Version 2 and I'm still struggling with
finding a way to enter place names to show everything I want in a written
report but have them sort properly in the list.
My problem is that sometimes I have only 3 names with separating comas and
sometimes 5.  If I do a reverse sort: Country, State, County, City it's a
mess.
For example--
3 places separated by comas:
  Kirk Maughold Cemetery, Maughold, Isle of Man  (Isle of man is it's own
country and not part of England as the Manx are quick to point out).
sorts to -
, Isle of Man, Maughold, Kirk Maughold

5 places separated by comas:
 Elmwood Cemetery, Kansas City, Jackson County, Missouri, USA.
sorts to:
Missouri, Jackson County, Kansas City, Elmwood Cemetery, USA

Regina, Saskatchewan, Canada sorts to:
, Canada, Saskatchewan, Regina.
Most provinces in Canada do not have counties so almost everything is 3
places unless a cemetery is added to take up the 4th space.

Any suggestions or creative ideas would be most welcome.  My biggest concern
is the sorting.  If I want to make a list of people buried in various
cemeteries in Kansas City, MO, I'd like to find them grouped together in the
sort list rather than have to scroll through and try picking them out.
USA, Missouri, Jackson County, Kansas City, cemetery A
USA, Missouri, Jackson County, Kansas City, cemetery B
USA, Missouri, Jackson County, Kansas City, cemetery C


I hope I've explained this in a clear manner.

Thanks,
Kathy





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Re: [LegacyUG] Pictures

[Sherry/Support]

Can your right click on the picture and select Save As (or however the
wording is in your browser)?


Sincerely,
Sherry
Technical Support
Legacy Family Tree


On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 9:06 PM, BobsTree2-Gmail  wrote:
> NO.  Tribal pages only creates a gedcom file. And you may lose some notes 
> and/or sources.  Tribal Pages also has no method to download the pictures.  
> You will need to reproduce them from other sources, or do a screen copy of 
> the images, one at a time.
>
> Bob Hansen




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Re: [LegacyUG] Pictures

[BobsTree2-Gmail]

NO.  Tribal pages only creates a gedcom file. And you may lose some notes 
and/or sources.  Tribal Pages also has no method to download the pictures.  You 
will need to reproduce them from other sources, or do a screen copy of the 
images, one at a time.

Bob Hansen

On Feb 19, 2015, at 13:05, Lynne Crowley  wrote:

> Hi,
> I'd like to use Legacy and bring all my information over from Tribal Pages.  
> Question is will my pictures also transfer?
>
> Thanks
>
>
>




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RE: [LegacyUG] In the case of the male - Father Bold, mother not

[Olwyn Bourne]

Now there's a curious thing.  It has been this way since I originally 
downloaded 8 and that was sometime ago. If I minimise then maximise (A) the 
screen it does corrects itself.   If I go to another person (B) it is a mix of 
bold and not, as originally mentioned.  Then I go back to (A) it's back to bold 
and not, as the case maybe.I guess it's just something on my system and not 
worth worrying about.

Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2015 12:39:50 +0800
From: genea...@gmail.com
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] In the case of the male - Father Bold, mother not

Strange.

I presume you mean on Family View?



I don't think there is any setting that could cause this.

Does it persist when Legacy is closed and reopened?

When Legacy window is Maximised and then run half screen or something?



Cathy



Olwyn Bourne wrote:



Sorry, I should have mentioned this is only on the screen display.





From: dobou...@hotmail.com

To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com

Subject: [LegacyUG] In the case of the male - Father Bold, mother not

Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2015 17:21:11 +1300



Is it just me or does it mean something?



Parents to a male always has the father bold and the mother

not.Parents to the female have both bold.Children, child #2 is always

bold as is child #8.Resetting to default
 does not change this.It does

not relate to direct line.



This is a very minor thing I’m just curious and wonder if I have set

something.



Regards Olwyn








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Re: [LegacyUG] In the case of the male - Father Bold, mother not

[Cathy Pinner]

Strange.
I presume you mean on Family View?

I don't think there is any setting that could cause this.
Does it persist when Legacy is closed and reopened?
When Legacy window is Maximised and then run half screen or something?

Cathy

Olwyn Bourne wrote:
>
> Sorry, I should have mentioned this is only on the screen display.
>
> 
> From: dobou...@hotmail.com
> To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Subject: [LegacyUG] In the case of the male - Father Bold, mother not
> Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2015 17:21:11 +1300
>
> Is it just me or does it mean something?
>
> Parents to a male always has the father bold and the mother
> not.Parents to the female have both bold.Children, child #2 is always
> bold as is child #8.Resetting to default does not change this.It does
> not relate to direct line.
>
> This is a very minor thing I’m just curious and wonder if I have set
> something.
>
> Regards Olwyn





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RE: [LegacyUG] In the case of the male - Father Bold, mother not

[Olwyn Bourne]

Sorry, I should have mentioned this is only on the screen display.

From: dobou...@hotmail.com
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] In the case of the male - Father Bold, mother not
Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2015 17:21:11 +1300




Is it just me or does it mean something? Parents to a male always has the 
father bold
and the mother not.  Parents to the
female have both bold.   Children, child
#2 is always bold as is child #8.
Resetting to default does not change this.  It does not relate to direct line.  
This is a very minor thing I’m just curious and wonder if I have set 
something.Regards Olwyn







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[LegacyUG] In the case of the male - Father Bold, mother not

[Olwyn Bourne]

Is it just me or does it mean something? Parents to a male always has the 
father bold
and the mother not.  Parents to the
female have both bold.   Children, child
#2 is always bold as is child #8.
Resetting to default does not change this.  It does not relate to direct line.  
This is a very minor thing I’m just curious and wonder if I have set 
something.Regards Olwyn






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RE: [LegacyUG] Oh-oh!

[Jim Terry/Support]

Brian,

Most of the time and for most of our users, leaving Legacy on when a Windows 
update happens is never a problem, but this coming April I will have worked for 
Millennia Corp. 16 years and I can remember one or two users in the past who 
lost a family file this way.

Jim
Legacy Support


 Original Message 
> From: "Brian L. Lightfoot" 
> Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 3:11 PM
> To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Oh-oh!
>
> Jim, thanks for putting all those tips together in one place. Very good 
> information for everybody to remember.
>
> In my own case, I am guilty of running Legacy 24/7 on a single dedicated 
> computer. I never thought about the dreaded Windows Update. I think I need to 
> learn to Exit Legacy at night; besides that creates an auto-backup in the 
> process. Old habits are tough one to break.
>
> And now, because someone else complained of a similar circumstance, this may 
> not be as random an event as I thought. If the programmers want to look at my 
> database, I've kept it but renamed it from Lightfoot.fdb to  Lightfoot.fubar, 
> 240 MBs.
>
> Brian in CA
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Jim Terry/Support [mailto:jimte...@legacyusers.com]
> Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 2:09 PM
> To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Oh-oh!
>
> Here are some things that may help stop data corruption and data loss:
>
> . Always do Check/Repair before and after updating/upgrading the Legacy 
> program; before and after importing one file into another; before and after 
> merging duplicate persons, etc.
> . Use an uninterruptable power supply or APC to protect your computer from 
> sudden power loss and to filter out power surges/fluctuations.
> . Don't leave Legacy open and unattended for prolonged periods. Shut it down 
> if you are going to bed or will be away for more than a few minutes. A family 
> file can be corrupted if Legacy is open when an automatic Windows update with 
> reboot happens.
> . Make sure that you always work in the same family file.  Some users have 
> more than one family file with the exact same name, but saved in different 
> locations. For example, if they have been adding new people to their family 
> file called MyGenealogy.fdb saved in Documents for several weeks, and then 
> inadvertently open an old version MyGenealogy.fdb saved in the Legacy folder 
> they conclude that Legacy has lost data.
> . Restoring a family file from an old backup can be a problem. If you do not 
> backup frequently and need to restore your family file, you will get an older 
> version of your file with fewer people.
> . Too many backups can be confusing. When you restore from a backup copy, 
> select the one with the most recent date.
> . Run ScanDisk / Disk Defragmenter regularly on your computer's hard drive 
> and replace bad drives.
> . Don't push the 2 GB size limitation for a family file. As a file approaches 
> the 2 GB limit it becomes susceptible to errors that can't be fixed.
> . Back up your family file on a regular basis, especially before any major 
> file operations like importing and merging records, or using any tools like 
> Check/Repair, Advanced Deleting, Advanced Sourcing or Search and Replace 
> which make global changes to your family file.
>
> Jim
> Legacy Technical Support
>
>
>  Original Message 
> > From: "Elizabeth Verchio" 
> > Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 2:02 PM
> > To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
> > Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Oh-oh!
> >
> > Several weeks ago I had the exact   'Oh-oh! event when over 5,000 
> > people who were not previously   linked to a location (In the Master 
> > Location List) was suddenly   linked -Â  seems the events were pretty 
> > much the way you described   them, Brian.  I just sat and looked at 
> > the screen for about 10   minutes - I was too shocked to move!  That 
> > was when I looked into   the Legacy e-mail group to see if it had 
> > happened before.  By the   time I got signed up, able to access and 
> > search entires I was so   frustrated that I just restored my most 
> > recent back-up, from the   night before, and in the process lost 
> > several hours of editing.ÂAs you commented maybe just one of those 
> > "one-in-a-million"   chances.  Well, mine makes it a 2 in a million.  
> > After that   happened, I have set a better routine to back-up 
> > alternating   between 2 files every hour or so, and when I am ready to 
> > end for   the day I back-up to the oldest file and another file on a   
> >  (mirrored) drive on my network.  Currently, I am cleaning up data,
> >locations, linked photos, and changing the way I enter burial   
> > information.  Needless to say - having over 5000 profiles to   
> > suddenly be linked to a location that had nothing to do with their   
> > live is, well, let me just say I was not a happy c

Re: [LegacyUG] Oh-oh!

[Charani]

On 19/02/2015 22:09, Jim Terry/Support wrote:
> A family file can be corrupted if Legacy is open when an automatic
> Windows update with reboot happens.

I can confirm that happens :( I don't have Windows update without my
say so, all it can do is tell me there are updates, but I have had my
Legacy file corrupted when Windows crashed when the program was open.
Very frustrating!

--
Charani (UK)
OPC for Walton,  Ashcott, Shapwick,
Greinton and Clutton, SOM
http://wsom-opc.org.uk




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Re: [LegacyUG] Oh-oh!

[Jay Wilpolt]

Great advice Jim!

I run a File Check repair Every time I use Legacy
I create a backup at least once every day and if I have spent an hour or
more adding info, I will make a backup after that.
(Every month I deleted old backups and that folder usually has about 50 to
delete every month)

DO NOT leave legacy open if you are not going to work on it.

Be conscious of any use of " or ' that could foul up records during an
import or export  (the fewer "quotes" I have, the fewer problems occur with
data going in and out)

I read these stories here of Data : magically being added or removed
I would bet all my research that it's all operator error.

Thanks

Jay




On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 2:09 PM, Jim Terry/Support  wrote:

> Here are some things that may help stop data corruption and data loss:
>
> . Always do Check/Repair before and after updating/upgrading the Legacy
> program; before and after importing one file into another; before and after
> merging duplicate persons, etc.
> . Use an uninterruptable power supply or APC to protect your computer from
> sudden power loss and to filter out power surges/fluctuations.
> . Don't leave Legacy open and unattended for prolonged periods. Shut it
> down if you are going to bed or will be away for more than a few minutes. A
> family file can be corrupted if Legacy is open when an automatic Windows
> update with reboot happens.
> . Make sure that you always work in the same family file.  Some users have
> more than one family file with the exact same name, but saved in different
> locations. For example, if they have been adding new people to their family
> file called MyGenealogy.fdb saved in Documents for several weeks, and then
> inadvertently open an old version MyGenealogy.fdb saved in the Legacy
> folder they conclude that Legacy has lost data.
> . Restoring a family file from an old backup can be a problem. If you do
> not backup frequently and need to restore your family file, you will get an
> older version of your file with fewer people.
> . Too many backups can be confusing. When you restore from a backup copy,
> select the one with the most recent date.
> . Run ScanDisk / Disk Defragmenter regularly on your computer's hard drive
> and replace bad drives.
> . Don't push the 2 GB size limitation for a family file. As a file
> approaches the 2 GB limit it becomes susceptible to errors that can't be
> fixed.
> . Back up your family file on a regular basis, especially before any major
> file operations like importing and merging records, or using any tools like
> Check/Repair, Advanced Deleting, Advanced Sourcing or Search and Replace
> which make global changes to your family file.
>
> Jim
> Legacy Technical Support
>
>
>  Original Message 
> > From: "Elizabeth Verchio" 
> > Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 2:02 PM
> > To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
> > Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Oh-oh!
> >
> > Several weeks ago I had the exact   'Oh-oh! event when over 5,000
> people who were not previously   linked to a location (In the Master
> Location List) was suddenly   linked -Â  seems the events were pretty
> much the way you described   them, Brian.  I just sat and looked at
> the screen for about 10   minutes - I was too shocked to move!  That
> was when I looked into   the Legacy e-mail group to see if it had
> happened before.  By the   time I got signed up, able to access and
> search entires I was so   frustrated that I just restored my most
> recent back-up, from the   night before, and in the process lost
> several hours of editing.ÂAs you commented maybe just one of those
> "one-in-a-million"   chances.  Well, mine makes it a 2 in a million.Â
> After that   happened, I have set a better routine to back-up
> alternating   between 2 files every hour or so, and when I am ready to
> end for   the day I back-up to the oldest file and another file on aÂ
>   (mirrored) drive on my network.  Currently, I am cleaning up data,
>  locations, linked photos, and changing the way I enter burial
>  information.  Needless to say - having over 5000 profiles to
>  suddenly be linked to a location that had nothing to do with their
>  live is, well, let me just say I was not a happy camper, ill is a
>  better description! But, it did get me joined up to this users   group
> where I have gained a lot of good, helpful tools.  Thanks   everybody.
> >
> >   Elizabeth
> >   Born in Alabama, still residing in illinois
> >
> >   On 2/19/2015 1:20 PM, Brian L. Lightfoot wrote:
> >Iâ?Tm
>  sure this was some random event that can never be duplicated
>  and there is nothing a user can do to avoid it other than a
>  one-in-a-million chance of it happening again. The most
>  important thing is to have a recent backup. Â  Now,
>  speaking of recent backups, I had another oh-oh moment when
>  I looked in my D

RE: [LegacyUG] Oh-oh!

[Brian L. Lightfoot]

Jim, thanks for putting all those tips together in one place. Very good 
information for everybody to remember.

In my own case, I am guilty of running Legacy 24/7 on a single dedicated 
computer. I never thought about the dreaded Windows Update. I think I need to 
learn to Exit Legacy at night; besides that creates an auto-backup in the 
process. Old habits are tough one to break.

And now, because someone else complained of a similar circumstance, this may 
not be as random an event as I thought. If the programmers want to look at my 
database, I've kept it but renamed it from Lightfoot.fdb to  Lightfoot.fubar, 
240 MBs.

Brian in CA


-Original Message-
From: Jim Terry/Support [mailto:jimte...@legacyusers.com]
Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 2:09 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Oh-oh!

Here are some things that may help stop data corruption and data loss:

. Always do Check/Repair before and after updating/upgrading the Legacy 
program; before and after importing one file into another; before and after 
merging duplicate persons, etc.
. Use an uninterruptable power supply or APC to protect your computer from 
sudden power loss and to filter out power surges/fluctuations.
. Don't leave Legacy open and unattended for prolonged periods. Shut it down if 
you are going to bed or will be away for more than a few minutes. A family file 
can be corrupted if Legacy is open when an automatic Windows update with reboot 
happens.
. Make sure that you always work in the same family file.  Some users have more 
than one family file with the exact same name, but saved in different 
locations. For example, if they have been adding new people to their family 
file called MyGenealogy.fdb saved in Documents for several weeks, and then 
inadvertently open an old version MyGenealogy.fdb saved in the Legacy folder 
they conclude that Legacy has lost data.
. Restoring a family file from an old backup can be a problem. If you do not 
backup frequently and need to restore your family file, you will get an older 
version of your file with fewer people.
. Too many backups can be confusing. When you restore from a backup copy, 
select the one with the most recent date.
. Run ScanDisk / Disk Defragmenter regularly on your computer's hard drive and 
replace bad drives.
. Don't push the 2 GB size limitation for a family file. As a file approaches 
the 2 GB limit it becomes susceptible to errors that can't be fixed.
. Back up your family file on a regular basis, especially before any major file 
operations like importing and merging records, or using any tools like 
Check/Repair, Advanced Deleting, Advanced Sourcing or Search and Replace which 
make global changes to your family file.

Jim
Legacy Technical Support


 Original Message 
> From: "Elizabeth Verchio" 
> Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 2:02 PM
> To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Oh-oh!
>
> Several weeks ago I had the exact   'Oh-oh! event when over 5,000 people 
> who were not previously   linked to a location (In the Master Location 
> List) was suddenly   linked -Â  seems the events were pretty much the way 
> you described   them, Brian.  I just sat and looked at the screen for 
> about 10   minutes - I was too shocked to move!  That was when I looked 
> into   the Legacy e-mail group to see if it had happened before.  By the 
>   time I got signed up, able to access and search entires I was so   
> frustrated that I just restored my most recent back-up, from the   night 
> before, and in the process lost several hours of editing.ÂAs you 
> commented maybe just one of those "one-in-a-million"   chances.  Well, 
> mine makes it a 2 in a million.  After that   happened, I have set a 
> better routine to back-up alternating   between 2 files every hour or so, 
> and when I am ready to end for   the day I back-up to the oldest file and 
> another file on aÂ(mirrored) drive on my network.  Currently, I am 
> cleaning up data,   locations, linked photos, and changing the way I 
> enter burial   information.  Needless to say - having over 5000 profiles 
> to   suddenly be linked to a location that had nothing to do with their   
> live is, well, let me just say I was not a happy camper, ill is a   
> better description! But, it did get me joined up to this users   group 
> where I have gained a lot of good, helpful tools.  Thanks   everybody.
>
>   Elizabeth
>   Born in Alabama, still residing in illinois
>
>   On 2/19/2015 1:20 PM, Brian L. Lightfoot wrote:
>Iâ?Tm sure 
> this was some random event that can never be duplicated and there 
> is nothing a user can do to avoid it other than a 
> one-in-a-million chance of it happening again. The most important 
> thing is to have a r

Re: [LegacyUG] Oh-oh!

[Jim Terry/Support]

Here are some things that may help stop data corruption and data loss:

. Always do Check/Repair before and after updating/upgrading the Legacy 
program; before and after importing one file into another; before and after 
merging duplicate persons, etc.
. Use an uninterruptable power supply or APC to protect your computer from 
sudden power loss and to filter out power surges/fluctuations.
. Don't leave Legacy open and unattended for prolonged periods. Shut it down if 
you are going to bed or will be away for more than a few minutes. A family file 
can be corrupted if Legacy is open when an automatic Windows update with reboot 
happens.
. Make sure that you always work in the same family file.  Some users have more 
than one family file with the exact same name, but saved in different 
locations. For example, if they have been adding new people to their family 
file called MyGenealogy.fdb saved in Documents for several weeks, and then 
inadvertently open an old version MyGenealogy.fdb saved in the Legacy folder 
they conclude that Legacy has lost data.
. Restoring a family file from an old backup can be a problem. If you do not 
backup frequently and need to restore your family file, you will get an older 
version of your file with fewer people.
. Too many backups can be confusing. When you restore from a backup copy, 
select the one with the most recent date.
. Run ScanDisk / Disk Defragmenter regularly on your computer's hard drive and 
replace bad drives.
. Don't push the 2 GB size limitation for a family file. As a file approaches 
the 2 GB limit it becomes susceptible to errors that can't be fixed.
. Back up your family file on a regular basis, especially before any major file 
operations like importing and merging records, or using any tools like 
Check/Repair, Advanced Deleting, Advanced Sourcing or Search and Replace which 
make global changes to your family file.

Jim
Legacy Technical Support


 Original Message 
> From: "Elizabeth Verchio" 
> Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 2:02 PM
> To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Oh-oh!
>
> Several weeks ago I had the exact   'Oh-oh! event when over 5,000 people 
> who were not previously   linked to a location (In the Master Location 
> List) was suddenly   linked -Â  seems the events were pretty much the way 
> you described   them, Brian.  I just sat and looked at the screen for 
> about 10   minutes - I was too shocked to move!  That was when I looked 
> into   the Legacy e-mail group to see if it had happened before.  By the 
>   time I got signed up, able to access and search entires I was so   
> frustrated that I just restored my most recent back-up, from the   night 
> before, and in the process lost several hours of editing.ÂAs you 
> commented maybe just one of those "one-in-a-million"   chances.  Well, 
> mine makes it a 2 in a million.  After that   happened, I have set a 
> better routine to back-up alternating   between 2 files every hour or so, 
> and when I am ready to end for   the day I back-up to the oldest file and 
> another file on aÂ(mirrored) drive on my network.  Currently, I am 
> cleaning up data,   locations, linked photos, and changing the way I 
> enter burial   information.  Needless to say - having over 5000 profiles 
> to   suddenly be linked to a location that had nothing to do with their   
> live is, well, let me just say I was not a happy camper, ill is a   
> better description! But, it did get me joined up to this users   group 
> where I have gained a lot of good, helpful tools.  Thanks   everybody.
>
>   Elizabeth
>   Born in Alabama, still residing in illinois
>
>   On 2/19/2015 1:20 PM, Brian L. Lightfoot wrote:
>Iâ?Tm sure 
> this was some random event that can never be duplicated and there 
> is nothing a user can do to avoid it other than a 
> one-in-a-million chance of it happening again. The most important 
> thing is to have a recent backup. Â  Now, 
> speaking of recent backups, I had another oh-oh moment when I 
> looked in my Data folder and found only one backup from a month 
> ago. I know I have backed up more than that. Seems the most 
> recent update of Legacy also changed my custom Data location back 
> to the default C:\Users\Name\My Documentsâ?¦. I never store any 
> data, whether it be Legacy or any other program on the C: drive. 
> Thatâ?Ts the target of any virus so I move data to a different 
> drive. OK, so Iâ?Tm paranoid. Easy to have a custom location do 
> when your system has 2 terabytes of drive storage. Sitting on my 
> C: drive were 22 backups which were merely copied over to my 
> cust

Re: [LegacyUG] Oh-oh!

[Elizabeth Verchio]

  
  
Several weeks ago I had the exact
  'Oh-oh! event when over 5,000 people who were not previously
  linked to a location (In the Master Location List) was suddenly
  linked -  seems the events were pretty much the way you described
  them, Brian.  I just sat and looked at the screen for about 10
  minutes - I was too shocked to move!  That was when I looked into
  the Legacy e-mail group to see if it had happened before.  By the
  time I got signed up, able to access and search entires I was so
  frustrated that I just restored my most recent back-up, from the
  night before, and in the process lost several hours of editing. 
  As you commented maybe just one of those "one-in-a-million"
  chances.  Well, mine makes it a 2 in a million.  After that
  happened, I have set a better routine to back-up alternating
  between 2 files every hour or so, and when I am ready to end for
  the day I back-up to the oldest file and another file on a 
  (mirrored) drive on my network.  Currently, I am cleaning up data,
  locations, linked photos, and changing the way I enter burial
  information.  Needless to say - having over 5000 profiles to
  suddenly be linked to a location that had nothing to do with their
  live is, well, let me just say I was not a happy camper, ill is a
  better description! But, it did get me joined up to this users
  group where I have gained a lot of good, helpful tools.  Thanks
  everybody.
  
  Elizabeth 
  Born in Alabama, still residing in illinois
  
  On 2/19/2015 1:20 PM, Brian L. Lightfoot wrote:


  
  
  
  
I’m
sure this was some random event that can never be duplicated
and there is nothing a user can do to avoid it other than a
one-in-a-million chance of it happening again. The most
important thing is to have a recent backup.
 
Now,
speaking of recent backups, I had another oh-oh moment when
I looked in my Data folder and found only one backup from a
month ago. I know I have backed up more than that. Seems the
most recent update of Legacy also changed my custom Data
location back to the default C:\Users\Name\My Documents…. I
never store any data, whether it be Legacy or any other
program on the C: drive. That’s the target of any virus so I
move data to a different drive. OK, so I’m paranoid. Easy to
have a custom location do when your system has 2 terabytes
of drive storage. Sitting on my C: drive were 22 backups
which were merely copied over to my custom drive
designation. And on my next forced backup, I made sure I
changed the location. Guess I was too quick to click the
mouse for the past month and never noticed the location had
changed. I’ll watch this on the next update to see if it
happens again.
 
Brian
in CA
 
 
From:
Tessa Keough [mailto:murke...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 8:21 AM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Oh-oh!
 

  
Thanks so much Brian -
hearing the issue made me a bit ill as I don't really
want to fix my program and I expect my data to be right
where I put it. Another reminder to all Legacy users of
why it is so important to back up and have a couple of
systems in place (extra protection). 
  
  
 
  
  
Tessa
  


  

  

  
Tessa
Keough

  Guild
  of One-Name Studies, Keough (Keogh, Kough
  & Kehoe) Registered ONS


  Legacy
  Virtual Users' Group Community on Google+


  Society
  for One-Place Studies - Plate Cove East,
  Newfoundland 

  

  
   
  
On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 7:53 AM, Brian
  L. Lightfoot 
  wrote:

  
This
data destruction occurred on its own. I was merely
editing a Short Location Name when I noticed the
screen blinked and suddenly there were two such
locations, one legit and one with the approx. 5,000

RE: [LegacyUG] Pictures

[Paul Gray]

I wasn’t familiar with Tribal Pages so I went to their website and forum. See 
the  link below for a posting that seems to address your question.



The short answer appears to be ‘No’. The posting is referring to a ‘Backup 
GEDCOM’ and seems to imply that the Tribal Pages GEDCOM does not accommodate 
pictures. That makes sense because all a GEDCOM does for pictures is provide a 
link to the picture, and that picture is on their site. If it is on your 
computer as well (Legacy, and most desktop programs require the picture to be 
on your local computer) , Tribal Pages doesn’t know where it is so it could not 
include it their GEDCOM.



http://www.tribalpages.com/tribe/forum?f=1 
 
&v=1&mid=77550&rid=77530



Legacy should be able to import the GEDCOM assuming it’s in the proper format, 
but I think the pictures need to be linked manually to the copy you have on 
your own computer. If the pictures are only stored online, it would be a 
separate process to download them from TP and I can’t answer how that would be 
done.



But welcome to Legacy! I think you have some conversion challenges, but you 
will be quite happy (I hope) with Legacy when you complete the conversion.



Paul Gray



From: Lynne Crowley [mailto:lynne.crow...@gmail.com]
Sent: February-19-15 11:05 AM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Pictures



Hi,
I'd like to use Legacy and bring all my information over from Tribal Pages.  
Question is will my pictures also transfer?

Thanks










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RE: [LegacyUG] Pictures

[Michele/Support]

Lynne,
You will need to download your tree as a gedcom file.  Here are the 
instructions from the TribalPages website 
https://tribalpages.com/trails/ugedcom.html

You can then import the gedcom into Legacy.  Your attached images will not 
transfer.  This is a limitation of the gedcom protocol.  You will need to 
download the images to your hard drive and then link to them in Legacy.


Michele
Technical Support
mich...@legacyfamilytree.com
www.legacyfamilytree.com

From: Lynne Crowley [mailto:lynne.crow...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 1:05 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Pictures

Hi,
I'd like to use Legacy and bring all my information over from Tribal Pages.  
Question is will my pictures also transfer?
Thanks






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Re: [LegacyUG] Oh-oh!

[Kathy Meyer]

Brian, you bring up an excellent point with the auto backups!  That has
happened to me and I honestly don't know if I've lost any data because of
it or not.  I don't even know how long I just clicked to go forward and
realized months later that it had been backing up to the wrong place.  I
just happened to glance at it and realized it was wrong.  I backup to
dropbox BTW and then copy that to an external drive (or two) every month or
two.  Well, now I do :-)  I hope your comment causes some others to glance
at the backup location every time just to be safe.

Kathy

On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 12:20 PM, Brian L. Lightfoot <
br...@the-lightfoots.com> wrote:

> I’m sure this was some random event that can never be duplicated and there
> is nothing a user can do to avoid it other than a one-in-a-million chance
> of it happening again. The most important thing is to have a recent backup.
>
>
>
> Now, speaking of recent backups, I had another oh-oh moment when I looked
> in my Data folder and found only one backup from a month ago. I know I have
> backed up more than that. Seems the most recent update of Legacy also
> changed my custom Data location back to the default C:\Users\Name\My
> Documents…. I never store any data, whether it be Legacy or any other
> program on the C: drive. That’s the target of any virus so I move data to a
> different drive. OK, so I’m paranoid. Easy to have a custom location do
> when your system has 2 terabytes of drive storage. Sitting on my C: drive
> were 22 backups which were merely copied over to my custom drive
> designation. And on my next forced backup, I made sure I changed the
> location. Guess I was too quick to click the mouse for the past month and
> never noticed the location had changed. I’ll watch this on the next update
> to see if it happens again.
>
>
>
> Brian in CA
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Tessa Keough [mailto:murke...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Thursday, February 19, 2015 8:21 AM
> *To:* legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
> *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Oh-oh!
>
>
>
> Thanks so much Brian - hearing the issue made me a bit ill as I don't
> really want to fix my program and I expect my data to be right where I put
> it. Another reminder to all Legacy users of why it is so important to back
> up and have a couple of systems in place (extra protection).
>
>
>
> Tessa
>
>
> *Tessa Keough*
>
> *Guild of One-Name Studies, **Keough (Keogh, Kough & Kehoe) Registered
> ONS*
>
> *Legacy Virtual Users' Group Community on Google+*
>
> *Society for One-Place Studies - Plate Cove East, Newfoundland *
>
>
>
> On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 7:53 AM, Brian L. Lightfoot <
> br...@the-lightfoots.com> wrote:
>
> This data destruction occurred on its own. I was merely editing a Short
> Location Name when I noticed the screen blinked and suddenly there were two
> such locations, one legit and one with the approx. 5,000 names.
>
>
>
> I’ve never had it happen before and I doubt if I could ever duplicate it.
> I now wonder if I had just exited Legacy without saving and restarted
> instead of doing a file check/repair which seemed to cement the erroneous
> locations to the persons. Blame it on the solar winds.
>
>
>
> While in the Master Location list, I could easily tag the list of 5,000
> and as suggested could use a split screen with a recent backup but then I
> started to estimate the time needed to wade through such a list. I may not
> live that long.
>
>
>
> I opted to jump back 2 days and use the last back up as a starting point.
> Not really all that bad because all I did for 2 days was to add census
> images and they are still there in the media folder.
>
>
>
> By the way, in case you were wondering, this was v8.
>
>
>
>
>
> Brian in CA
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Tessa Keough [mailto:murke...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 18, 2015 4:22 PM
> *To:* legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
> *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Oh-oh!
>
>
>
> Does this type of thing just happen on its own Kathy or Brian OR was there
> some type of user error. If it just happens, that doesn't provide a whole
> lot of confidence as to integrity of the data entered. It is a bit more
> concerning than oh-oh. Can anyone explain why it happened?
>
>
>
> Tessa
>
>
> *Tessa Keough*
>
> *Guild of One-Name Studies, **Keough (Keogh, Kough & Kehoe) Registered
> ONS*
>
> *Legacy Virtual Users' Group Community on Google+*
>
> *Society for One-Place Studies - Plate Cove East, Newfoundland *
>
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 18, 2015 at 2:08 PM, Kathy Meyer  wrote:
>
> S sorry to hear this.  Wish I could give advice but I do empathize
> with you. I had a bunch of marriages duplicated once and had to go through
> every one individually.  But at least the group was able to help me do it
> The fastest way possible.
>
>
>
> On Wednesday, February 18, 2015, Brian L. Lightfoot <
> br...@the-lightfoots.com> wrote:
>
> I was entering a new location today and jumped into the Master Location
> List to edit the Short Name Location. But that’s when I noticed that there
> were two 

RE: [LegacyUG] Pictures

[Brian L. Lightfoot]

I’m not familiar with Tribal Pages but Legacy will only display on reports one 
“preferred” picture per event even if you have attached a dozen pictures. There 
is a workaround in that some users create an event called Photo and attach a 
picture to that. Let’s say that you have 5 photos of your grandfather as he was 
growing up. One Photo event is dated 1880, another photo event is dated 1900, 
another is dated 1910….. You get the picture. PTP



Brian in CA





From: Lynne Crowley [mailto:lynne.crow...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 10:05 AM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Pictures



Hi,
I'd like to use Legacy and bring all my information over from Tribal Pages.  
Question is will my pictures also transfer?

Thanks







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RE: [LegacyUG] Oh-oh!

[Brian L. Lightfoot]

I’m sure this was some random event that can never be duplicated and there is 
nothing a user can do to avoid it other than a one-in-a-million chance of it 
happening again. The most important thing is to have a recent backup.



Now, speaking of recent backups, I had another oh-oh moment when I looked in my 
Data folder and found only one backup from a month ago. I know I have backed up 
more than that. Seems the most recent update of Legacy also changed my custom 
Data location back to the default C:\Users\Name\My Documents…. I never store 
any data, whether it be Legacy or any other program on the C: drive. That’s the 
target of any virus so I move data to a different drive. OK, so I’m paranoid. 
Easy to have a custom location do when your system has 2 terabytes of drive 
storage. Sitting on my C: drive were 22 backups which were merely copied over 
to my custom drive designation. And on my next forced backup, I made sure I 
changed the location. Guess I was too quick to click the mouse for the past 
month and never noticed the location had changed. I’ll watch this on the next 
update to see if it happens again.



Brian in CA





From: Tessa Keough [mailto:murke...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 8:21 AM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Oh-oh!



Thanks so much Brian - hearing the issue made me a bit ill as I don't really 
want to fix my program and I expect my data to be right where I put it. Another 
reminder to all Legacy users of why it is so important to back up and have a 
couple of systems in place (extra protection).



Tessa




Tessa Keough

Guild of One-Name Studies, Keough (Keogh, Kough & Kehoe) Registered ONS

Legacy Virtual Users' Group Community on Google+

Society for One-Place Studies - Plate Cove East, Newfoundland



On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 7:53 AM, Brian L. Lightfoot  
wrote:

This data destruction occurred on its own. I was merely editing a Short 
Location Name when I noticed the screen blinked and suddenly there were two 
such locations, one legit and one with the approx. 5,000 names.



I’ve never had it happen before and I doubt if I could ever duplicate it. I now 
wonder if I had just exited Legacy without saving and restarted instead of 
doing a file check/repair which seemed to cement the erroneous locations to the 
persons. Blame it on the solar winds.



While in the Master Location list, I could easily tag the list of 5,000 and as 
suggested could use a split screen with a recent backup but then I started to 
estimate the time needed to wade through such a list. I may not live that long.



I opted to jump back 2 days and use the last back up as a starting point. Not 
really all that bad because all I did for 2 days was to add census images and 
they are still there in the media folder.



By the way, in case you were wondering, this was v8.





Brian in CA





From: Tessa Keough [mailto:murke...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2015 4:22 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Oh-oh!



Does this type of thing just happen on its own Kathy or Brian OR was there some 
type of user error. If it just happens, that doesn't provide a whole lot of 
confidence as to integrity of the data entered. It is a bit more concerning 
than oh-oh. Can anyone explain why it happened?



Tessa




Tessa Keough

Guild of One-Name Studies, Keough (Keogh, Kough & Kehoe) Registered ONS

Legacy Virtual Users' Group Community on Google+

Society for One-Place Studies - Plate Cove East, Newfoundland



On Wed, Feb 18, 2015 at 2:08 PM, Kathy Meyer  wrote:

S sorry to hear this.  Wish I could give advice but I do empathize with 
you. I had a bunch of marriages duplicated once and had to go through every one 
individually.  But at least the group was able to help me do it The fastest way 
possible.



On Wednesday, February 18, 2015, Brian L. Lightfoot  
wrote:

I was entering a new location today and jumped into the Master Location List to 
edit the Short Name Location. But that’s when I noticed that there were two 
identical location with the same name. I clicked on the other one and was 
surprised to see a very large list of names associated with that 
location….something that I knew was impossible. Then Legacy opened up and ERROR 
window and recommended that I do a File Repair. I did that with no other 
warnings, and went back to my list to now discover that approximately 5,000 
names have their birth location associated with the new location.



I don’t know which is easier, go back to a recent back-up and lose all my work 
from the past few days, or tag all these people with the wrong location and 
edit each one individually.



I think I just take 2 aspirins.





Brian in CA









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[Lynne Crowley]

Hi,
I'd like to use Legacy and bring all my information over from Tribal
Pages.  Question is will my pictures also transfer?

Thanks




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RE: [LegacyUG] Locations: towns in multiple counties?

[Anne Scott]

Thanks, everyone, for the feedback.

OK, Jessica, you lose.  You have a much worse problem than the one I have. ;)

Sounds like I need to be more aware of where cities/towns can be in multiple 
counties.  I had been laboring under the misconception that there was always a 
one-to-one connection between counties and cities/towns (at least for a given 
point in time).  Silly me!

Anne

From: johnbernac...@iprimus.com.au
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Locations: towns in multiple counties?
Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2015 08:28:39 +1100





The Family Search “Standard Finder” may help: 
https://familysearch.org/stdfinder/PlaceStandardLookup.jsp



John

From: Jessica Morgan
Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2015 7:43 AM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com

Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Locations: towns in multiple
counties?



I have one that straddles state lines. Springhill, Webster, Louisiana - or
Springhill, Columbia County, Arkansas.

To make it even worse, the Springhill Cemetery there NOW is in Louisiana.
The ORIGINAL is in Arkansas.

So when I have this issue I include in the NOTES section, a blurb about the
two similar, but different, locations, and in parenthesis I include any
postulating on my part; ex (probably Webster Parish, but not confirmed
2/17/15).

I also have this issue with Shiloh Cemeteries, as there are about a dozen
within fifty miles of each other, all in different towns and varying parishes in
Louisiana. So I just make very detailed notes.

If I have an absolute confirmation, I put that in the appropriate field,
but if there is any doubt, I always add the other possible locations to my notes
so I don't continue to postulate without results.

Jessica










Jessica Morgan
Sr Engineering Technologist, Black Stone
Minerals
Chair, SPE GCS Petro-Tech Study
Group
**





On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 2:19 PM, Jay Wilpolt  wrote:













  Jerry,

She is talking about cities that are in two
  counties.

Like New London, Wisconsin

do you use New
  London, Outagamie, Wisconsin
or  New London, Waupaca, Wisconsin.

It's about 50/50 land spread between the counties.

and
  Appleton, Wisconsin

could be Appleton, Calumet,
  Wisconsin
or  Appleton, Outagamie, Wisconsin

even
  tho' less than 4% of the city is in Calumet County (and it's the county seat
  for Outagamie. )

which one should you use when you may have
  documentation but no distinction to which county it should be.


Jay











  On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 11:11 AM, Jerry in Michigan
   wrote:


Anne, are you speaking
about the source only or the location formatting? For those of us who use
the four division location name (to promote proper sorting), I would do
something like this:

Detroit, , Michigan, United States

To
each his own, but I always leave the spot for the missing county between
commas and put appropriate notes in the adjacent notes field.

Jerry
Boor,
MerriamFamilyTree.org


On 02/17/2015 11:49 AM, Anne Scott wrote:


  I went to record an obituary source late last week and
  wanted to add the city name and county name of the newspaper to my source
  record.  Unfortunately, the city straddles multiple counties.Â
  After a bit of research, I discovered that there are many towns and cities
  in Colorado that straddle county boundaries.Â
Â
For my
  specific case, the newspaper is modern so I can look up the street address
  and record the appropriate county based on the newspaper address.
Â

What suggestions does this group have for handling this situation
  when all you have is a city/town name?
Â

Anne


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Re: [LegacyUG] Oh-oh!

[Tessa Keough]

Also Kathy and Brian are what I consider "power users" (always helpful
answering questions and know Legacy quite well) and have been using Legacy
for awhile. My concern is that if this type of things happens to you two,
what are the chances others (including me) might also have this happen (and
perhaps not even notice it until many days or weeks have passed). Really
want those popups or reminders that what we have done might have an affect
we did not contemplate (big fan of warnings). Thanks

Tessa

*Tessa Keough*
*Guild of One-Name Studies, **Keough (Keogh, Kough & Kehoe) Registered ONS*
*Legacy Virtual Users' Group Community on Google+*
*Society for One-Place Studies - Plate Cove East, Newfoundland *

On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 8:17 AM, Kathy Meyer  wrote:

> Is there a way to open the in messed up file side by side to go through
> only the individuals where changes had been made over those two days?  Like
> create a report on recently edited individuals?  Or are you comfortable
> remembering which ones you worked on?  Is there a way to see only those
> individuals if you wanted to?ThT would certainly help me from time to
> time. :-)
>
> As for my duplicate marriages - it happened after a merge process.I
> probably did something wrong but never tried to figure out what that was.
> Just wanted to fix it.  And I did get it done.   It was just under 1000
> marriages.  Now if it had been 5000 I may have made a different choice
>
> Kathy
>
> On Thursday, February 19, 2015, Brian L. Lightfoot <
> br...@the-lightfoots.com> wrote:
>
>> This data destruction occurred on its own. I was merely editing a Short
>> Location Name when I noticed the screen blinked and suddenly there were two
>> such locations, one legit and one with the approx. 5,000 names.
>>
>>
>>
>> I’ve never had it happen before and I doubt if I could ever duplicate it.
>> I now wonder if I had just exited Legacy without saving and restarted
>> instead of doing a file check/repair which seemed to cement the erroneous
>> locations to the persons. Blame it on the solar winds.
>>
>>
>>
>> While in the Master Location list, I could easily tag the list of 5,000
>> and as suggested could use a split screen with a recent backup but then I
>> started to estimate the time needed to wade through such a list. I may not
>> live that long.
>>
>>
>>
>> I opted to jump back 2 days and use the last back up as a starting point.
>> Not really all that bad because all I did for 2 days was to add census
>> images and they are still there in the media folder.
>>
>>
>>
>> By the way, in case you were wondering, this was v8.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Brian in CA
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Tessa Keough [mailto:murke...@gmail.com]
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 18, 2015 4:22 PM
>> *To:* legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Oh-oh!
>>
>>
>>
>> Does this type of thing just happen on its own Kathy or Brian OR was
>> there some type of user error. If it just happens, that doesn't provide a
>> whole lot of confidence as to integrity of the data entered. It is a bit
>> more concerning than oh-oh. Can anyone explain why it happened?
>>
>>
>>
>> Tessa
>>
>>
>> *Tessa Keough*
>>
>> *Guild of One-Name Studies, **Keough (Keogh, Kough & Kehoe) Registered
>> ONS*
>>
>> *Legacy Virtual Users' Group Community on Google+*
>>
>> *Society for One-Place Studies - Plate Cove East, Newfoundland *
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 18, 2015 at 2:08 PM, Kathy Meyer 
>> wrote:
>>
>> S sorry to hear this.  Wish I could give advice but I do empathize
>> with you. I had a bunch of marriages duplicated once and had to go through
>> every one individually.  But at least the group was able to help me do it
>> The fastest way possible.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, February 18, 2015, Brian L. Lightfoot <
>> br...@the-lightfoots.com> wrote:
>>
>> I was entering a new location today and jumped into the Master Location
>> List to edit the Short Name Location. But that’s when I noticed that there
>> were two identical location with the same name. I clicked on the other one
>> and was surprised to see a very large list of names associated with that
>> location….something that I knew was impossible. Then Legacy opened up and
>> ERROR window and recommended that I do a File Repair. I did that with no
>> other warnings, and went back to my list to now discover that approximately
>> 5,000 names have their birth location associated with the new location.
>>
>>
>>
>> I don’t know which is easier, go back to a recent back-up and lose all my
>> work from the past few days, or tag all these people with the wrong
>> location and edit each one individually.
>>
>>
>>
>> I think I just take 2 aspirins.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Brian in CA
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Oh-oh!

[Tessa Keough]

Thanks so much Brian - hearing the issue made me a bit ill as I don't
really want to fix my program and I expect my data to be right where I put
it. Another reminder to all Legacy users of why it is so important to back
up and have a couple of systems in place (extra protection).

Tessa

*Tessa Keough*
*Guild of One-Name Studies, **Keough (Keogh, Kough & Kehoe) Registered ONS*
*Legacy Virtual Users' Group Community on Google+*
*Society for One-Place Studies - Plate Cove East, Newfoundland *

On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 7:53 AM, Brian L. Lightfoot <
br...@the-lightfoots.com> wrote:

> This data destruction occurred on its own. I was merely editing a Short
> Location Name when I noticed the screen blinked and suddenly there were two
> such locations, one legit and one with the approx. 5,000 names.
>
>
>
> I’ve never had it happen before and I doubt if I could ever duplicate it.
> I now wonder if I had just exited Legacy without saving and restarted
> instead of doing a file check/repair which seemed to cement the erroneous
> locations to the persons. Blame it on the solar winds.
>
>
>
> While in the Master Location list, I could easily tag the list of 5,000
> and as suggested could use a split screen with a recent backup but then I
> started to estimate the time needed to wade through such a list. I may not
> live that long.
>
>
>
> I opted to jump back 2 days and use the last back up as a starting point.
> Not really all that bad because all I did for 2 days was to add census
> images and they are still there in the media folder.
>
>
>
> By the way, in case you were wondering, this was v8.
>
>
>
>
>
> Brian in CA
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Tessa Keough [mailto:murke...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 18, 2015 4:22 PM
> *To:* legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
> *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Oh-oh!
>
>
>
> Does this type of thing just happen on its own Kathy or Brian OR was there
> some type of user error. If it just happens, that doesn't provide a whole
> lot of confidence as to integrity of the data entered. It is a bit more
> concerning than oh-oh. Can anyone explain why it happened?
>
>
>
> Tessa
>
>
> *Tessa Keough*
>
> *Guild of One-Name Studies, **Keough (Keogh, Kough & Kehoe) Registered
> ONS*
>
> *Legacy Virtual Users' Group Community on Google+*
>
> *Society for One-Place Studies - Plate Cove East, Newfoundland *
>
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 18, 2015 at 2:08 PM, Kathy Meyer  wrote:
>
> S sorry to hear this.  Wish I could give advice but I do empathize
> with you. I had a bunch of marriages duplicated once and had to go through
> every one individually.  But at least the group was able to help me do it
> The fastest way possible.
>
>
>
> On Wednesday, February 18, 2015, Brian L. Lightfoot <
> br...@the-lightfoots.com> wrote:
>
> I was entering a new location today and jumped into the Master Location
> List to edit the Short Name Location. But that’s when I noticed that there
> were two identical location with the same name. I clicked on the other one
> and was surprised to see a very large list of names associated with that
> location….something that I knew was impossible. Then Legacy opened up and
> ERROR window and recommended that I do a File Repair. I did that with no
> other warnings, and went back to my list to now discover that approximately
> 5,000 names have their birth location associated with the new location.
>
>
>
> I don’t know which is easier, go back to a recent back-up and lose all my
> work from the past few days, or tag all these people with the wrong
> location and edit each one individually.
>
>
>
> I think I just take 2 aspirins.
>
>
>
>
>
> Brian in CA
>
>
>
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Oh-oh!

[Kathy Meyer]

Is there a way to open the in messed up file side by side to go through
only the individuals where changes had been made over those two days?  Like
create a report on recently edited individuals?  Or are you comfortable
remembering which ones you worked on?  Is there a way to see only those
individuals if you wanted to?ThT would certainly help me from time to
time. :-)

As for my duplicate marriages - it happened after a merge process.I
probably did something wrong but never tried to figure out what that was.
Just wanted to fix it.  And I did get it done.   It was just under 1000
marriages.  Now if it had been 5000 I may have made a different choice

Kathy

On Thursday, February 19, 2015, Brian L. Lightfoot 
wrote:

> This data destruction occurred on its own. I was merely editing a Short
> Location Name when I noticed the screen blinked and suddenly there were two
> such locations, one legit and one with the approx. 5,000 names.
>
>
>
> I’ve never had it happen before and I doubt if I could ever duplicate it.
> I now wonder if I had just exited Legacy without saving and restarted
> instead of doing a file check/repair which seemed to cement the erroneous
> locations to the persons. Blame it on the solar winds.
>
>
>
> While in the Master Location list, I could easily tag the list of 5,000
> and as suggested could use a split screen with a recent backup but then I
> started to estimate the time needed to wade through such a list. I may not
> live that long.
>
>
>
> I opted to jump back 2 days and use the last back up as a starting point.
> Not really all that bad because all I did for 2 days was to add census
> images and they are still there in the media folder.
>
>
>
> By the way, in case you were wondering, this was v8.
>
>
>
>
>
> Brian in CA
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Tessa Keough [mailto:murke...@gmail.com
> ]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 18, 2015 4:22 PM
> *To:* legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
> *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Oh-oh!
>
>
>
> Does this type of thing just happen on its own Kathy or Brian OR was there
> some type of user error. If it just happens, that doesn't provide a whole
> lot of confidence as to integrity of the data entered. It is a bit more
> concerning than oh-oh. Can anyone explain why it happened?
>
>
>
> Tessa
>
>
> *Tessa Keough*
>
> *Guild of One-Name Studies, **Keough (Keogh, Kough & Kehoe) Registered
> ONS*
>
> *Legacy Virtual Users' Group Community on Google+*
>
> *Society for One-Place Studies - Plate Cove East, Newfoundland *
>
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 18, 2015 at 2:08 PM, Kathy Meyer  > wrote:
>
> S sorry to hear this.  Wish I could give advice but I do empathize
> with you. I had a bunch of marriages duplicated once and had to go through
> every one individually.  But at least the group was able to help me do it
> The fastest way possible.
>
>
>
> On Wednesday, February 18, 2015, Brian L. Lightfoot <
> br...@the-lightfoots.com
> > wrote:
>
> I was entering a new location today and jumped into the Master Location
> List to edit the Short Name Location. But that’s when I noticed that there
> were two identical location with the same name. I clicked on the other one
> and was surprised to see a very large list of names associated with that
> location….something that I knew was impossible. Then Legacy opened up and
> ERROR window and recommended that I do a File Repair. I did that with no
> other warnings, and went back to my list to now discover that approximately
> 5,000 names have their birth location associated with the new location.
>
>
>
> I don’t know which is easier, go back to a recent back-up and lose all my
> work from the past few days, or tag all these people with the wrong
> location and edit each one individually.
>
>
>
> I think I just take 2 aspirins.
>
>
>
>
>
> Brian in CA
>
>
>
>
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RE: [LegacyUG] Oh-oh!

[Brian L. Lightfoot]

This data destruction occurred on its own. I was merely editing a Short 
Location Name when I noticed the screen blinked and suddenly there were two 
such locations, one legit and one with the approx. 5,000 names.



I’ve never had it happen before and I doubt if I could ever duplicate it. I now 
wonder if I had just exited Legacy without saving and restarted instead of 
doing a file check/repair which seemed to cement the erroneous locations to the 
persons. Blame it on the solar winds.



While in the Master Location list, I could easily tag the list of 5,000 and as 
suggested could use a split screen with a recent backup but then I started to 
estimate the time needed to wade through such a list. I may not live that long.



I opted to jump back 2 days and use the last back up as a starting point. Not 
really all that bad because all I did for 2 days was to add census images and 
they are still there in the media folder.



By the way, in case you were wondering, this was v8.





Brian in CA





From: Tessa Keough [mailto:murke...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2015 4:22 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Oh-oh!



Does this type of thing just happen on its own Kathy or Brian OR was there some 
type of user error. If it just happens, that doesn't provide a whole lot of 
confidence as to integrity of the data entered. It is a bit more concerning 
than oh-oh. Can anyone explain why it happened?



Tessa




Tessa Keough

Guild of One-Name Studies, Keough (Keogh, Kough & Kehoe) Registered ONS

Legacy Virtual Users' Group Community on Google+

Society for One-Place Studies - Plate Cove East, Newfoundland



On Wed, Feb 18, 2015 at 2:08 PM, Kathy Meyer  wrote:

S sorry to hear this.  Wish I could give advice but I do empathize with 
you. I had a bunch of marriages duplicated once and had to go through every one 
individually.  But at least the group was able to help me do it The fastest way 
possible.



On Wednesday, February 18, 2015, Brian L. Lightfoot  
wrote:

I was entering a new location today and jumped into the Master Location List to 
edit the Short Name Location. But that’s when I noticed that there were two 
identical location with the same name. I clicked on the other one and was 
surprised to see a very large list of names associated with that 
location….something that I knew was impossible. Then Legacy opened up and ERROR 
window and recommended that I do a File Repair. I did that with no other 
warnings, and went back to my list to now discover that approximately 5,000 
names have their birth location associated with the new location.



I don’t know which is easier, go back to a recent back-up and lose all my work 
from the past few days, or tag all these people with the wrong location and 
edit each one individually.



I think I just take 2 aspirins.





Brian in CA





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RE: [LegacyUG] Birth parents vs. adoptive parents

[Michele/Support]

Anne,
I would need more info to be able to point you in the right direction.  You can 
email me off list at mich...@legacyfamilytree.com

As far as the Research Guidance goes, after our little chat I will see if there 
are possible resources I need to add to the Research Guidance :)


Michele
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mich...@legacyfamilytree.com
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From: Anne Scott [mailto:anne_p_sc...@hotmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2015 10:21 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Birth parents vs. adoptive parents

How does one "prove" a set of birth parents in the case of an adopted child 
where a new birth certificate was issued?  I've thought of looking for birth 
registers and newspaper articles.  Are there other resources?

Please feel free to point me at other resources/user groups if this isn't the 
appropriate place to ask this question.  Also, how could I use the Research 
Guidance tool to help me find places to look?

Thanks,
Anne

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Re: [LegacyUG] Direct Line Ancestor

[Ila East]

Thank you. That is exacting what I was looking for. I'll try that right away. 
Thanks again.

Ila

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> On Feb 18, 2015, at 11:22 PM, Carl Cox  wrote:
>
> I am going over an extensive bunch of my ancestors, synching them with LFS.
> I edit the starting person, currently using descendants. You can also select
> ancestors, tags, or end-of-line, and choose how many generations. Edit is
> near the upper left corner of the LFS screen. Once you decide rather to use
> ancestors or descendants, you just select the starting person, and have them
> underlined on the family screen when you initiate the LFS screen. That way
> you can choose whichever family or linked families you want to work on. Of
> course when you have as many submissions over as long a time as my family
> has, you have a tremendous job cleaning up the many years of zealous
> research. (This would probably post better on the LegacyFT email group.)
>
> Carl
>
>
> __
>
>   << I have all my data in one data base. I found I was getting side
>tracked with syncing with Family Search and working on
>collateral lines instead of my direct lines. I thought I was
>being smart and exported my direct line ancestors. I made some
>changes and merged the files. I just spent over an hour merging
>duplicates because they were all duplicates LOL>>
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Birth parents vs. adoptive parents

[Charani]

On 19/02/2015 03:21, Anne Scott wrote:
> How does one "prove" a set of birth parents in the case of an
> adopted child where a new birth certificate was issued?  I've
> thought of looking for birth registers and newspaper articles.  Are
> there other resources?

You don't say where or when the adoption took place, so the following
may not apply.

If you are referring to England & Wales, then formal adoption didn't
start before 1927 (IIRC) and the court papers relating to the adoption
are closed to all except the birth parents, adoptive parents and the
adopted child.

There's no correlation between the regular birth indices and the
adopted child indices.  An adopted child may or may not keep any name
given to him or her by his/her birth parent/s.  Often a child wouldn't
have even known s/he was adopted.  Generally speaking the birth
registers are not open to the public and information can only be
supplied in the form of a birth certificate.  If the child was adopted
there should be a note on the certificate itself but you'd have to
have some prior knowledge of the birth parents.

There may be an announcement of a new child within the family which
may or may not mention it is by adoption.  There wouldn't be any
mention of the birth parents, nor an announcement by them to say their
baby had been adopted by Mr & Mrs .

Prior to 1927, adoption would have usually been an informal
arrangement often within the wider family and more akin to modern
fostering.  If a formal arrangement involving lawyers was made, you'd
have to know who the lawyers were and their files may not be extant or
have been deposited in the local archive or record office.

An illegitimate child may have been registered by a relative other
than the birth mother.  There'd be no way of proving who the birth
mother was, just a strong suspicion such as the claimed mother being
highly unlikely or much too old to have given birth.

If the adoption you are interested in took place in England/Wales,
contact me /off list/ as I have an adoption certificate which I can
show you.

--
Charani (UK)
OPC for Walton,  Ashcott, Shapwick,
Greinton and Clutton, SOM
http://wsom-opc.org.uk




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