[LegacyUG] ANOTHER short location name question
while we are on the subject of the short location name field: During the 1800's in Sydney Australia, there was a strange little phenomena of using a house name as an address, so the Smith family may have given their address as "Keiraville" Jones Street, Glebe or "Keiraville" 6 Jones Street, Glebe or sometimes just "Keiraville" Glebe. It must have been a nightmare for the postman but it appears constantly in death and funeral notices and even in the electoral rolls. I also think that some families may have packed up the house name and taken it with them when they moved! I'm trying out ways of entering this in the address field. So far I've been placing the inverted commas around the house name so they all appear first in my address lists, but I'd also like to be able to sort according to the name of the street. I think I read an earlier post from some one in England who was asking about sorting according to streets so he could see who had been neighbours. I've thought of including the house name in with the house number and placing a comma after the number so I get "Keiraville" 6, Jones Street, Glebe. That way I can sort which relatives were also living in Jones Street (maybe that's why they didn't need numbers, the whole street knew each other!) But for the ones with just house name and no street I would need extra commas. So to get around printing a messy looking address field with lots of commas I thought of using the short form as my 'proper' looking address for when I want to print a report. I'm only experimenting with this so does anyone have any comments on why this would or wouldn't work before I start changing my very long locations list. Thanks, BTW this group is great, I've been using Legacy for several years but have never delved into all the little extras it can do, I've been learning a lot in the short time I've been here. cheers Erica Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Location/Address Fields (was ANOTHER short location name question)
thanks everyone, Ron I did mean the location field, shouldn’t have referred to it as address. I probably wasn’t clear but I was really looking for a way to sort street names without a lot of commas appearing in the reports. I’ll think about it a bit longer before deciding how to tackle it and will look at Micheles’ suggestion to use the plus additional info or the notes. BTW Jenny and Ron, yes our Victorian inner city houses (the ones that are left) still have their old house names attached but they are seldom used nowadays as part of the address. Erica From: cranberryf...@cobridge.tv Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2011 8:47 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Location/Address Fields (was ANOTHER short location name question) I never put the street address in the location field anyway so this is a moot point for me. My reasons for using the 4 locations fields is 1) consistency 2) so that the Legacy search features will work correctly, and so that I will be able to integrate with FamilySearch. If I had a location like Smith Farm. I would write it as , Lamar, Mississippi, USA [I would leave the town blank assuming the farm name was used in lieu of the town name, Lamar is the county, Mississippi is the state, and USA is the county] Next to any location field there is a plus sign where you can put any additional information. You can also explain it in the notes. Michele From: Ron Ferguson Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2011 5:33 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Location/Address Fields (was ANOTHER short location name question) Erica, I have changed the Subject to something which relates to the content. Firstly can you confirm which you mean the address book or the Location List – I think the latter, and have answered accordingly. Commas!! Ugh!! It has always been my practice to write a location as it is written and not using the so called American 4 field convention which tries to fit locations into this synthetic construction. It is still common in England for houses to have names as well as/instead of using numbers, in fact my ex was brought up on a farm whose location was Farm Name, Town, Derbyshire, England. Note there is no street, simply because there isn’t one, just a track leading up a mountain. Inserting commas instead would imply that there is a street of unknown name.. Wrong, there isn’t. For ease of comparison between locations of varying fields set the location to read from right to left – go to View>Master Lists>Locations>Sort. At the bottom right set to read from right to left, click OK to exit, and check the little box next to the Sort Button. I always include the full location, including the house name/number.. street, etc. in the long location, and with few exceptions, certainly no more than any other method, it maps correctly. Ron Ferguson http://www.fergys.co.uk/ Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Creating a GEDCOM file to export--problems
couldn’t you tag who you want – create GED from those tags – open GED as a renamed new tree – edit this renamed new tree - then create another fresh GED from this edited tree. That way you are not touching your original Legacy tree even though you say to back it up, I’m sure I’d mess up somewhere between the backup and the restoring of original. I think this would work on a small export, would hate to have to edit too many people this way. Erica From: Margaret DeAcetis Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2011 7:11 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Creating a GEDCOM file to export--problems Update--more trial and error corrected problems to get a bare bones file. First I made a backup of my Legacy files before starting. Then, to create a GEDCOM file, I did the following. Step 1. On GEDCOM Export screen, I selected produce file for "only 5.5". Step 2. I used Tag 1 to contain a group of 8 individuals. For record selection, I selected All records with an individual tag of 1. I unchecked all the boxes listed below. Step 3. To customize, I checked off boxes to exclude all options except child status, compiler information and marriage status. I previewed many attempts on Notepad until I got what I wanted. I deleted unwanted material, like burial information and simplified location information, from my individual view screens. When satisfied, I saved my finished product to desired places. Then I restored my earlier backup to override the deletions I had made on the individual view screens. Hope this is helpful to someone else in the future. Margaret --- On Sun, 7/10/11, Margaret DeAcetis wrote: From: Margaret DeAcetis Subject: [LegacyUG] Creating a GEDCOM file to export--problems To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Date: Sunday, July 10, 2011, 3:41 PM Hi All, I want to create a bare bones GEDCOM file to export. Around Jun 30 or July 1, 2011, Wendy Howard was kind enough to post a 2 person plain text file as an example. She noted that I could preview my file on Notepad. That was exactly my wish. I have been unable to duplicate her example. From Geoff's training video I learned how to tag individuals for my GEDCOM record collection. From the customize view, I eventually excluded all the available items to export to avoid getting events, etc. printed to the file as happened on my first tries. Among my first problems were the inclusion of non-tagged persons in my file. One of my tagged persons was married twice and I only wanted that individual's first marriage partner listed. But I was getting information on the second spouse also. Then I tried selecting each individual one at a time and not using a tagged list. Still unwelcome files created. Also unclear to me is how to get the bare bones I want, meaning name, sex, birth, death, and marriage. On the customize view, I've tried selecting Only 5.5, basic, and generic. What exactly is only 5.5? I've tried highlighting the categories I want on either side of the include button, but it appears the categories like only 5.5, etc. had defaulted options, so I'm not sure what I am supposed to be including or removing. Can someone walk me though the process of getting Wendy Howard's result? Thanks, Margaret Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe:
RE: [LegacyUG] New buttons?
It does say in the help section that the numbers can be used to generate lists in the search area, so it could be handy in that way. (BTW I've given in and updated to the latest version, after a full day of working on Legacy the dancing icons finally lost their cuteness appeal! LOL) Erica -Original Message- From: cranberryf...@cobridge.tv [mailto:cranberryf...@cobridge.tv] Sent: Sunday, 24 July 2011 12:45 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] New buttons? So Brian, what you are saying is that if I put those numbers up to 3, that means that I am very interested in that persons ancestors and descendants? I can't imagine how that would be remotely helpful. I already know that in my head. I will turn it off in the options now that I know that I can do that. michele Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Advice on name for 'probable' town
I’m probably not doing this the ‘correct’ way but it works for me – if I find a birth on, say, the New South Wales registry office online index, it will give the district where the birth was registered. Assuming the parents went to their closest registry office, I give the birth location as that town plus the word ‘district’ so a birth location might read: Burwood district, New South Wales, Australia. It just shows me that they were probably in that general area at the time of the birth. Of course this also adds “Burwood district” to my locations list, but that doesn’t particularly worry me. Cheers Erica From: Rob Vader [mailto:r.va...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, 4 October 2011 6:12 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Advice on name for 'probable' town Hi, I would like the view of the users of this forum on how to register a 'probable' town. So someone is born (ofcourse always) but it is nopt entirely sure in what town. If I now would note down in Legacy (e.g.) "London?" or soemthing like "prob. London" then it would enter as another town/city than London. That is not what I want. Is there something similare for names of cities like approximate dates? Or how would you advice? -- Greetings, Rob Vader Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Advice on name for 'probable' town
I like these suggestions to use the word registration and will be changing my "district" location to "registration district" , thanks everyone. Erica -Original Message- From: Jenny M Benson [mailto:ge...@cedarbank.me.uk] Sent: Thursday, 6 October 2011 10:25 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Advice on name for 'probable' town Joan Kemp wrote: > I do the same as Ron - eg 'Woolwich Reg Dist' (Registration District)' > - not only because a child's birth can be registered anywhere, but > also because registration districts cover a wide area. I have > ancestors from Great Cressingham, which is a small village in the > Swaffham (Norfolk) registration district, so if a birth is said to > have taken place in Swaffham, it is not necessarily in the town of > Swaffham itself. Hence I would record the birth as in Swaffham Reg > Dist unless I had more specific information. > > On 04/10/2011 00:44, Ron Ferguson wrote: >> Erica, >> I do not know about Australia, but in England it has never been >> necessary to register the birth in the place where the child was born. >> For marriages and deaths it is true to say that these events are >> registered in the place of the event. Thus, a registration district >> does not necessarily include the place of birth. >> When I do use them I include the Words Registration district after >> the name eg. Barton upon Irwell registration District, Lancashire, England. >> Ron Ferguson >> http://www.fergys.co.uk/ >> *From:* Erica Portelli <mailto:tan...@optusnet.com.au> >> *Sent:* Monday, October 03, 2011 11:21 PM >> *To:* LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com >> <mailto:LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com> >> *Subject:* RE: [LegacyUG] Advice on name for 'probable' town Like Ron, I too use "Barton upon Irwell Registration District" if that is all I know for place of B, M or D. I replace that (although it is still recorded in the Source Details, of course) when I get more precise information from another Source. Unlike Ron, I don't include the County with an RD. That is because so often the Districts cover an area which includes more than one county. Sometimes, for example, I am fairly sure a person was born in Dalbury Less in Derbyshire because the family have been living there for ages, but all I know for sure is that the birth was registered in Burton-upon-Trent. Burton upon Trent itself is in Nottinghamshire but that RD incompasses quite a few places in Derbyshire. -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] some of my notes have disappeared
I was looking at electoral rolls on Ancestry last night and entering names addresses occupations etc into my Legacy research notes of various members of the same family, intending to later go over each one and enter this information in their events fields. Suddenly the most recent (probably the last hour of work) disappeared, the earlier notes from the first couple of hours is still there, but nothing I added towards the end. The notes field for 3 family members are totally blank and I know I had entered information there. This seemed to happen as I clicked between general and research notes fields. It may also have happened a week ago but at the time I put it down to being overtired and thinking I was looking at the wrong person, but now I am sure this has happened before. By coincidence when the first incident happened a week ago I had just started to use Dropbox as a backup after hearing so many good reports. I'm wondering if this is somehow connected as I've never had this problem before. When I save each entry before moving to another screen, does this 'save' go to Dropbox or to my temporary folder When I look at the general info box, it tells me my family file path is: C:\Users\Tom & Erica\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windows\Temporary Internet Files\Content.IE5\ATZK0IED\ALL-family-current-OCT[1].fdb Is this something to do with the internet connection to Dropbox - I'm not a computer wiz but it looks to me that the file I'm relying on to open each time I open Legacy, is likely to go if I do a clean up on my computer and delete any temporary files. On the scale of things, the missing notes are not a huge problem, I can backtrack to see what is missing, but would like to know if it is a problem with my programme that I should report as I would not like it to continue. I'm also thinking that for the sake of being able to sit with my laptop in a comfy chair may not have been worth Dropbox even though I do love the concept, I might go back to the USB backups. BTW I have the latest Legacy 7.5.0.112 and am running Windows 7 -64 bit. TIA Erica Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] some of my notes have disappeared
Thanks Ron, this all happened while I was typing into the notes, no power spikes (we have everything plugged into a protection board) and no apparent overwriting (how would you do that? by opening an older saved version?) I do a backup at the end of each session but wouldn't have thought to do one half way through. I can only think that maybe I clicked too quickly from general notes to research notes without saving, but I thought that it would save automatically when you leave one screen for another. Erica -Original Message- From: Ron Ferguson [mailto:ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk] Sent: Sunday, 23 October 2011 7:24 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] some of my notes have disappeared Erica, What happens with Dropbox should have no effect on on your Legacy Database. As you enter enter data into Legacy Legacy's own database, on your PC, is automatically updated, and, at least in theory, this can only be lost if overwritten by a previous version, or say, a shut down caused by a power failure spike - hence the need for spike protection! I thought that the same had happened to me the other day, but I realised that in a moment of confusion I had overwritten with an older version. Fortunately I only lost two records. It does send a message about the need for regular backups whilst one is working. Sorry, but I cannot offer an explanation for your problem. Ron Ferguson http://www.fergys.co.uk/ -Original Message----- From: Erica Portelli Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2011 12:30 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: [LegacyUG] some of my notes have disappeared I was looking at electoral rolls on Ancestry last night and entering names addresses occupations etc into my Legacy research notes of various members of the same family, intending to later go over each one and enter this information in their events fields. Suddenly the most recent (probably the last hour of work) disappeared, the earlier notes from the first couple of hours is still there, but nothing I added towards the end. The notes field for 3 family members are totally blank and I know I had entered information there. This seemed to happen as I clicked between general and research notes fields. It may also have happened a week ago but at the time I put it down to being overtired and thinking I was looking at the wrong person, but now I am sure this has happened before. By coincidence when the first incident happened a week ago I had just started to use Dropbox as a backup after hearing so many good reports. I'm wondering if this is somehow connected as I've never had this problem before. When I save each entry before moving to another screen, does this 'save' go to Dropbox or to my temporary folder When I look at the general info box, it tells me my family file path is: C:\Users\Tom & Erica\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windows\Temporary Internet Files\Content.IE5\ATZK0IED\ALL-family-current-OCT[1].fdb Is this something to do with the internet connection to Dropbox - I'm not a computer wiz but it looks to me that the file I'm relying on to open each time I open Legacy, is likely to go if I do a clean up on my computer and delete any temporary files. On the scale of things, the missing notes are not a huge problem, I can backtrack to see what is missing, but would like to know if it is a problem with my programme that I should report as I would not like it to continue. I'm also thinking that for the sake of being able to sit with my laptop in a comfy chair may not have been worth Dropbox even though I do love the concept, I might go back to the USB backups. BTW I have the latest Legacy 7.5.0.112 and am running Windows 7 -64 bit. TIA Erica Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] some of my notes have disappeared
Hi Alan Have just replied to Ron so won't repeat it all again but in answer to you, I wasn't using the family search interface, I was reading from jpgs on Ancestry and typing the transcription into the notes field on legacy - no RAID0 on the laptop. (I just had to google to find out what it was!) I'll just take things slower and keep an eye on it (and lots of saves and backups) If it happens again I'll contact tech support Thanks Erica -Original Message- From: Alan Pereira [mailto:alanpere...@tiscali.co.uk] Sent: Sunday, 23 October 2011 11:00 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] some of my notes have disappeared Erica, I had this problem when using the New Family Search Interface, although I am not so sure this was the only culprit. I also use Windows 7 64 bit and my laptop is RAID0. Do any of these provide other common featrures for losing data? Alan Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] How to record this location.
Bernhard, don't confuse us poor Aussies anymore, we already have Wagga Wagga which is only ever called Wagga, and Woy Woy which is never called just Woy, please no Ulladulla, Ulladulla !(just kidding) and I doubt if even the locals of Ulladulla would know they were in Gilmore electorate unless there was an election due - electoral boundaries seem to be a moveable object in Australia, our house has been in three different electorates in 30 years, personally I would never include that in a location. As you have suggested, the 4 fields could be used to include a suburb of one of our major cities eg Glebe, Sydney, NSW, Australia but it's not something most Australians would use unless you were trying to describe the general location of Glebe to someone. After all this discussion, I have decided to stay with my original fields of street address, town or suburb, state, country. Btw closest pronunciation I can think of is ull as in sea gull Cheers Erica -Original Message- From: Bernhard Scholz [mailto:scholz-c...@gmx.de] Sent: Monday, 24 October 2011 10:04 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] How to record this location. G'day Jenny, had a look at the map of NSW and was supprised to see you're at the same geographical height of Canberra. I know that, many hundred of towns Downunder eg. Timber Creek, NT, are so small that they're not only the town but eg. could be the council at the same time as they are upto hundreds of kilometers from the next "big" city eg. Darwin. But I know there are many citys where the 4 field format could be used without any problems. E.g. Canberra, Sydney, Brisbane, Adelaide, etc. In your case it could be Ulladulla, Ulladulla, NSW, Australia Or Ulladulla, Gilmore, NSW, Australia. using the electorla area. btw. How do you say it, eg. like: Youlladulla (for a nonen Aussie) Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] some of my notes have disappeared
Dennis, I went to the Legacy customise backup screen: Select name and location for data backup: and directed the backup to the Dropbox folder, so the zip backup went there each time I closed Legacy. Do you mean you would have physically copied the .fdb and not made this automatic selection to Dropbox? Where would you have saved your .fdb before copying to dropbox? I've now gone back to doing two backups - first to a removeable USB stick and second to the c:\Legacy\Data, changing the location each time to suit. I've gone to options : locations and made the Default location of family files : C:\Legacy\Data Default location for pictures, sound, docs etc are C:\Legacy\Pictures\ or sound etc. Location of temporary files is set at C:\Legacy\Temp I then did a complete drive clean up and as I suspected would happen, the .fdb in the Windows\Temporary Internet Files etc. has been deleted and Legacy has asked which family file to open. I've opened the .fdb in the latest back up zip (which by the way, adds a [1] to the name each time I open from here, so at the moment my family file name ends in [1][1][1].fdb ) After doing all this, in the Family File Information (gen. info) screen under File Information, my Family File Path is still showing as C:\Users\Tom & Erica\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windows\Temporary Internet Files\Content.IE5\9NMBQ1FW\ALL-family-current-OCT[1][1][1].fdb Under this the Legacy Path is C:\Legacy I don't doubt you when you say I'm probably causing the problem, but am now at a loss - I don't think I've ever studied the general information screen so have not noticed the path to the temporary internet file before and can't see anywhere to change this - as far as that goes, why is it saving in a temp.internet file anyway, couldn't I theoretically be using Legacy offline? So where would the file go then? If I have set my locations for the temp. files to C:\Legacy\Temp, shouldn't this working file be saving there? I don't understand why is it still saving to the C:\Users etc etc. Apart from the incident with the disappearing notes, I would just like to know that I've set up all the options and locations correctly, so any advice would be appreciated. Erica -Original Message- From: Dennis M. Kowallek [mailto:kowal...@iglou.com] Sent: Tuesday, 25 October 2011 7:46 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] some of my notes have disappeared On Sun, 23 Oct 2011 10:30:23 +1100, "Erica Portelli" wrote: >By coincidence when the first incident happened a week ago I had just >started to use Dropbox as a backup after hearing so many good reports. >I'm wondering if this is somehow connected as I've never had this >problem before. Exactly HOW are you using DropBox as a backup? After closing Legacy, are you copying the .fdb file to your DropBox folder? That is how I would do it. >When I look at the general info box, it tells me my family file path is: >C:\Users\Tom & Erica\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windows\Temporary Internet >Files\Content.IE5\ATZK0IED\ALL-family-current-OCT[1].fdb This does not look good. *** I think you are causing your own problems, but without more details I cannot say for sure. -- Dennis Kowallek (LTools/Custom Programming) http://zippersoftware.com/ltools/index.htm http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ltools Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] some of my notes have disappeared
A very big thank you to all who have helped me straighten this out, especially Dennis and Brian for his instructions on restoring my file (which I've now done) and Mike for his comment " remember that from Vista onwards, Windows tends to create ZIP files i.e. backups, as folders." I think this was the root of the problem, I've had experience in the past unzipping files but going from XP to Windows 7, I think I was lulled into a different mindset by seeing the .fdb sitting out there in the open in the zip folder and thinking I could just use it. I had accidently closed my working file and opened the one in the zip folder when prompted for which to open. I also still believe Dropbox to be a good option and certainly didn't mean to sound like I was putting it down, I think now it was my inexperience and a coincidence that all this started at the same time. I am still not entirely clear on Dropbox but stop me if this is not the place to ask the next (I know we are only supposed to be discussing Legacy): At the moment I have everything in the C: drive Legacy folders as suggested by Dennis and Brian and set to open from that location. *if* I went back to using dropbox, would I need to have the working .fdb in the dropbox folder and direct the "set Starting Family File to Always open this file" to open the dropbox .fdb ? I can understand using dropbox as a safe off-site place to store zipped backups, but if you wanted to be able to access your current Legacy file from both PC and laptop (not both at the same time, I get that) you would need the working .fdb to be stored and opening from dropbox, have I got that right? Erica Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] some of my notes have disappeared
Hi Wendy, Thank you for describing your method, this sounds like a safe way to make use of it - it's good to see what works for other people, Cheers Erica -Original Message- From: Wendy Howard [mailto:wendy.how...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, 26 October 2011 5:30 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] some of my notes have disappeared Hi Erica, You said: > *if* I went back to using dropbox, would I need to have the working .fdb in > the dropbox folder and direct the "set Starting Family File to Always open > this file" to open the dropbox .fdb ? > > I can understand using dropbox as a safe off-site place to store zipped > backups, but if you wanted to be able to access your current Legacy file from > both PC and laptop (not both at the same time, I get that) you would need the > working .fdb to be stored and opening from dropbox, have I got that right? My method is to store my working file elsewhere, not in Dropbox (it's actual location doesn't matter, so I won't muddy the waters here by giving details). *But*, when I back up my Legacy file, the backup is directed to a folder under Dropbox. So the backup is in Dropbox, not the working file. I *usually* only work on my Legacy file from my laptop. However, if I wanted to access it from my desk computer, or from someone else's (online) computer, I just need to restore the backup file - either from the Dropbox folder on my computer, or by accessing my online storage if I'm elsewhere. When I'm done on the other machine I back up to Dropbox again, and when I'm next at the laptop I restore the latest backup before continuing. That's the catch with this method, if you work on more than one machine - you have to remember to restore the backup if you last worked on a different machine to the one you're using now. I don't normally do that, so it's not an issue for me. Just like Legacy itself, there's more than one way to approach this tool. Mine isn't necessarily any better than the other replies you've had, just different. It works for me, and may be what works for you, too. :-) Kind Regards, Wendy Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: Legacy fdb in Dropbox was RE: [LegacyUG] some of my notes have disappeared
Hi Paul, Thanks more making this clearer for me, I didn't understand before if the automatic screen 'saves' in Legacy would be getting transferred to the dropbox website and was wondering if a slow or interrupted internet connection would create a problem, but if the interaction is all on my PC until the programme is closed that would remove the worry of the saves not transferring quickly enough.Thanks for your help, I understand the process a lot more now, Cheers Erica -Original Message- From: Paul Gray [mailto:grayp...@telus.net] Sent: Wednesday, 26 October 2011 9:37 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com Subject: Legacy fdb in Dropbox was RE: [LegacyUG] some of my notes have disappeared Erica, Since this is still about using Legacy, I hope it will be ruled on topic Your last line said I can understand using dropbox as a safe off-site place to store zipped backups, but if you wanted to be able to access your current Legacy file from both PC and laptop (not both at the same time, I get that) you would need the working .fdb to be stored and opening from dropbox, have I got that right? Yes, this is essentially correct. However, to be precise, you put the .fdb file in the Dropbox folder on your local PC, and while you are using Legacy you are still interacting with your local PC. Only when you close Legacy will the updated fdb file be uploaded to the Dropbox website for 1) backup, and 2) synchronization with other computers if you choose. And, yes it is very important not only to use Legacy on one computer at a time, one must allow Dropbox to sync files after booting up the computer before opening Legacy, or you could still get conflicted files. All I did was move my Legacy Data folder to Dropbox, I left everything else in C:\Legacy. Paul Gray Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: Legacy fdb in Dropbox was RE: [LegacyUG] some of my notes have disappeared
Thank you again everyone for their input, Dennis and Paul for his testing, I appreciate the time and effort you have all spent on this subject, Cheers Erica -Original Message- From: Paul Gray [mailto:grayp...@telus.net] Sent: Thursday, 27 October 2011 7:47 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com Subject: RE: Legacy fdb in Dropbox was RE: [LegacyUG] some of my notes have disappeared Erica (and Dennis) I stand corrected. Dennis is right, (I tried his test). Dropbox is being updated each time you save a record, not just when you close Legacy. I took it one step further. I updated (but did not close) Legacy while my internet connection was disabled by powering off my modem. The little Dropbox icon spun and spun until I re-established my connection, then the files updated in the cloud. Confirmed by looking at event log in Dropbox. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Showing historical locations.
You know I was quite content before I joined this group, now look at all the extra things I have to think about LOL I've been doing a lot of searching through early Australian newspapers and find generally the 'colonies' of Australia (up to 1900) all referred to themselves simply as Queensland, New South Wales, there doesn't seem to be much reference to the word colony. Exception was Tasmania which in very early times was part of the New South Wales colony and known as Van Diemans Land - it became Tasmania sometime around 1850. So speaking for my mainly Australian research, I'm personally happy to forego history to a point, drop the word 'colony' and call them by the name they took on after Federation which seems to be the name they themselves were happy to use before Federation. Another problem is when areas change names, I have several localities which were probably named for the local landowners and now no longer exist under that name. I add this sort of information to my general notes field and also into the notes in the edit location window. But then I suppose, we have to consider how far we are going with our research, if I were planning to publish a book on my findings I would have to rethink the historical accuracy, even though the only 'inaccuracy' is the use of the word 'colony' Cheers Erica -Original Message- From: Tony Rolfe [mailto:geneal...@gillandtony.com] Sent: Saturday, 29 October 2011 4:50 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Showing historical locations. I'm not all that sure about American history, but I believe that before 1776 the United States didn't exist. What are now the states were British Colonies. Certainly, Australia didn't exist before Federation in 1901. My question is... If you have events which happened before 1776 in the Americas or before 1901 in the Australian colonies, do you still say that it happened in Norfolk, Virginia, America or in Norfolk, Virginia Colony? (I realise that a county should appear in there somewhere, but that's not the main point). What about Clermont, Queensland, Australia vs Clermont, Queensland Colony? Is it worth having two location names for the same place to get historical accuracy or is it better to simplify and forego history? Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] How do you all use the resource notes
Hi Marli, I do the same as Mary. I notice you said in one of your letters that you are a visual person, I am too, and I like to see at a glance what I have on each person - and what I DON'T have, the "Don't have" items also go into my TO DO list. All my findings (and their source) goes first into my research notes and is then ALSO distributed amongst the sources for events/facts like births, deaths, residence, occupation etc. As Mary said it is double work - I *know* I am duplicating things, but it helps me think if I can glance chronologically down these notes, something is more likely to jump out at me, than if I am clicking on individual sources. I also list in the research notes any information I may have received from another researcher that doesn't tally with mine and my feelings on its authenticity. (these are also listed in the "alternate" facts) A lot of my research notes include newspaper death and funeral notices, someone may be mentioned in these who isn't immediately "connectable" but whose name may later be one of those that "jumps" out. I recall Geoff saying in one of his webinars that he puts his findings into the research and uses the general notes to write each persons story (I hope I'm not misquoting him) This is what I've been doing, my general notes are more of a readable biography of the persons life including any local information which may have affected him. ie: " At the time of his marriage Fred Brown worked as a dairyman. Shortly after their marriage, he and his new wife moved to Smithtown. This coincided with the opening of the Smithtown Dairy Processing Plant which would have boosted the local economy and provided extra work in the surrounding area. " This gives a clue as to why Fred Brown may have moved and "pads" out a persons life making it ( I think) a more interesting read than lists of places and dates. Also I like the ability in Legacy to pick and choose what is printed - so I can give someone a printed report with this story from general notes, include the sources but keep my research notes and thoughts to myself. But I will emphasize this is just my way of working with the notes, as it's been pointed out so many times Legacy can be used so many ways, it is up to you to decide what you are eventually happy with. Cheers Erica Sent: Tuesday, 8 November 2011 3:06 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] How do you all use the resource notes Marli I put my notes in the Research Notes section in chronological order in order to find them easily, and I separate each note by a line. I put the source at the top of the note and any analysis of the source. Then I also copy & paste them separately into an Event/Fact. It's double work but it helps me to easily see what I have researched for a person. Here's a brief example: Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] sorting and naming pictures
I was looking at the list of pictures in my C:\Legacy\Pictures folder and am thinking about adding sub folders. I know about linking the pictures but am wondering if adding extra folders is getting a little too pedantic am I better off with a long alphabetical list? I have all these pictures backed up on a zip in family folders and wonder whether to duplicate this on Legacy. There are times when I have to think hard about the odd stray photo to remember which family folder to file it in - something that wouldn't happen with a long alphabetical list. BTW I know I could link from my backup zip but would prefer to use the Legacy folder. Also naming the pictures, has anyone experienced problems with commas, spaces or "&" in the names? I'm thinking of future exports or webpages. There was a time when we were encouraged to use underscores instead of spaces, is this still necessary? My collection of pics is not too big at the moment and it would be a good chance to develop a new plan before the collection grows out of control. Interested in hearing ideas and suggestions on how others have handled this. Cheers Erica Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] sorting and naming pictures
Thanks Brian and Ron for your advice Cheers Erica Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Burial v Cremation
Oh you're kidding! No I know you're not... Just what I needed to read as I'm currently trawling through hundreds of entries changing sources back to basic for this very reason Going to be a long holiday break. -Original Message- From: Alan Pereira [mailto:alanpere...@tiscali.co.uk] Sent: Tuesday, 20 December 2011 1:42 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Burial v Cremation Please be aware that changing burial to cremation compromises your ability to share files via gedcom as standard gedcom does not recognise Cremation. If you are only transferring Legacy to Legacy, then there is no problem. Alan Pereira Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
