Re: [LegacyUG] Independent Cities

[Laura Johnson]

we have the same problem with St Louis city versus St Louis County.  I 
always list the city which is NOT part of the county as"


St.Louis City (independent city), , Missouri, USA

On 2/18/2020 12:02 PM, marc...@comcast.net wrote:


Hi Margaret,

I live in Virginia.   Virginia is strange in that it is a 
Commonwealth.    Therefore our cities are not in counties.   All are 
very separate jurisdictions.  I live in the City of Richmond yet it is 
not in a county.   Prior I lived in Henrico County which is a totally 
separate government.


Another example, the Town of Ashland is physically located in Hanover 
County but you would _not_ list it as Ashland, Hanover County.   I 
would suggest “Town of Ashland” as that is what it is referred to 
locally.


Hope this helps!

*Marji Collings*

*From:* LegacyUserGroup  *On 
Behalf Of *Margaret Gagliardi

*Sent:* Tuesday, February 18, 2020 12:57 PM
*To:* Legacy User Group 
*Subject:* [LegacyUG] Independent Cities

The state of Virginia has a good number of 'Independent Cities'.  
Would someone please tell me how to properly record them?


Thanks

Margaret




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Re: [LegacyUG] Surname Changed When Immigrated

[Laura Johnson]

the so called ledgers were the ships manifests - those were done at the 
port of departure.


Here are a few good articles to let you know what really happened

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smithsonian-institution/ask-smithsonian-did-ellis-island-officials-really-change-names-immigrants-180961544/

https://www.genealogy.com/articles/research/88_donna.html

https://www.nypl.org/blog/2013/07/02/name-changes-ellis-island

https://www.thevintagenews.com/2019/04/29/ellis-island-names/


On 11/23/2019 3:06 PM, Christopher Seward Sr. wrote:


Marie,

I would disagree with that first statement.  In my years of doing 
research, I have heard stories where the workers at Ellis Island 
entered names into the ledgers incorrectly.  If they were unable to 
discern the name from the ships manifest, they would of write down the 
names as THEY understood the passengers.  I have examples in my own 
family where a Braun from Prussia was listed as Brown because the 
person at intake determined that the immigrant should "Americanize" 
their name.


As for the second part of your statement...I agree.  I do believe that 
the AKA field i the best place to notate that.


Ciao,
Christopher

On 11/23/2019 2:56 PM, mvmcgrs--- via LegacyUserGroup wrote:



First, the name was not changed at Ellis Island. The manifests were 
made in the country that they departed from. They probably made the 
change themselves to make the name easier to pronounce and spell. 
They may have done it legally, [through the courts] but more likely 
they just started to use the new spelling.


I'm using Legacy 8 and there is an AKA (4th logo from the right) it 
looks like a group of people. You can add the name that they used in 
Italy or the one used in the US, your choice. You can cite the source 
(census, birth record, marriage record, etc) for each individual time 
you find the name. Then use the other name in database.


Marie

Marie Varrelman Melchiori, Certified Genealogist Emeritus
__ __ __
CG or Certified Genealogist is a service mark of the Board for 
Certification of Genealogists, used under license by Board-certified 
genealogists after periodic competency evaluation, and the board name 
is registered in the US Patent & Trademark Office.
In a message dated 11/23/2019 2:53:41 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
cathyv...@cox.net writes:


My great grandfather had the surname Vallevegni in Italy.

When the family immigrated to the U.S. it changed to Vallevieni
which
they used from then on (probably changed at Ellis Island).

How should I enter 2 surnames in Legayc?

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Re: [LegacyUG] Surname Changed When Immigrated

[Laura Johnson]

First - names were NOT changed at Ellis Island.  The names on the 
manifests were from the port of departure.  So if it was written as 
VAllevieni on the manifest, it is because it was written that way on the 
manifest.


Second, I always record the birth/baptismal name as the correct names.  
All other names are then AKA's or Alias names and I document those name 
changes for where I found them


On 11/23/2019 1:52 PM, Cathy Vallevieni wrote:

My great grandfather had the surname Vallevegni in Italy.

When the family immigrated to the U.S. it changed to Vallevieni which 
they used from then on (probably changed at Ellis Island).


How should I enter 2 surnames in Legayc?



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[LegacyUG] 1/2 Siblings showing in Family View

[Laura Johnson]

Somehow I have set my file to show 1/2 siblings in Family View and I 
cannot get it undone.  Can someone please tell me where to correct this 
problem?



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Re: [LegacyUG] Potential Problem display for an individual

[Laura Johnson]

yes, it will.  You need to click on the Edit Children button
>
>
> On 20 January 2014 10:36, Tony Rolfe  > wrote:
>
> I have a person flagged with a potential problem, "Birth too long
> after
> prev child".  There is a red button next to their birth details
> and when
> I hover over that, the pop-up says "click to view details".  So, I
> click
> and a reasonably big window appears with a single line "Child 9
> born too
> long after previous child" and a bunch of things to do, none of which
> appears to show the list of children and the details which might be
> useful.
>
> It would be really nice to have a button "Display siblings list".
>
> Unless I'm missing something?
>
> Thanks
>
> Tony
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Curser placement in Source detail

[Laura Johnson]

thanks Sherry.

On 1/7/2014 9:12 AM, Sherry/Support wrote:
> That's a known issue which the programmers have resolved for the next update
>
>
> Sincerely,
> Sherry
> Technical Support
> Legacy Family Tree
>
>
> On Tue, Jan 7, 2014 at 7:02 AM, Laura Johnson  
> wrote:
>> When I click to add a source.  It opens the Assigned sources window. I
>> then choose Cite a Master Source (the source is in basic format). After
>> I choose the master source from the master source list, the ADD THE
>> SOURCE DETAIL window opens.
>>
>> I have to physically place the curser in the Detail Information box BUT
>> it automatically is placed in the Text/Comments and the Overrides box.
>> Is there a setting I am missing to get the curser to automatically be
>> placed in the Detail Information box or is this a bug?  In 7.5, it
>> automatically goes into the box but not in 8
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[LegacyUG] Curser placement in Source detail

[Laura Johnson]

When I click to add a source.  It opens the Assigned sources window. I
then choose Cite a Master Source (the source is in basic format). After
I choose the master source from the master source list, the ADD THE
SOURCE DETAIL window opens.

I have to physically place the curser in the Detail Information box BUT
it automatically is placed in the Text/Comments and the Overrides box.
Is there a setting I am missing to get the curser to automatically be
placed in the Detail Information box or is this a bug?  In 7.5, it
automatically goes into the box but not in 8





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Re: [LegacyUG] Birth date of Child 2 is before birth date of Child 1

[Laura Johnson]

I tried that as well. Also tried sorting  from there as well and there
was still a problem.  I finally unlinked her from these parents and
relinked her back and that solved the problem.

On 1/4/2014 6:43 PM, Jay 1FamilyTree wrote:
> Open the child settings (from the family view of the parents of Anna
> and Augustino)
>
> Use the "ORDER" up down to correct the order
>
>
>
>
> On Sat, Jan 4, 2014 at 4:29 PM, Laura Johnson
> mailto:rngad...@madisontelco.com>> wrote:
>
> I did that.  Didn't fix the problem
>
> On 1/4/2014 6:21 PM, Jay 1FamilyTree wrote:
> > Try running File Maintenance
> >
> >
> > On Sat, Jan 4, 2014 at 2:34 PM, Laura Johnson
> > mailto:rngad...@madisontelco.com>
> <mailto:rngad...@madisontelco.com
> <mailto:rngad...@madisontelco.com>>> wrote:
> >
> > I have this potential problem on one of the children in a
> family.
> > The children are:
> >
> > Anna Corso born 26 Apr 1835
> > Agostino Luciano Corso born 13 Dec 1837, died 2 Jan 1839
> >
> > The problem (red circle with exclamation point) is on Anna.
>  They are
> > sorted correctly and she was born over a year after her parents
> > marriage.  When you click to see what the problem is it
> states the
> > second child (Agostino)'s birthdate is before Anna's which
> is NOT
> > true.
> >
> > When you go into Anna's Individual Information and then
> click on the
> > problem, the window pops up to say that there is no
> potential problem
> > for this individual.
> >
> > I have closed and restarted Legacy and the problem still exists
> > Has anyone else had this problem?  Does anyone know how to
> correct it?
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Re: [LegacyUG] Birth date of Child 2 is before birth date of Child 1

[Laura Johnson]

I did that.  Didn't fix the problem

On 1/4/2014 6:21 PM, Jay 1FamilyTree wrote:
> Try running File Maintenance
>
>
> On Sat, Jan 4, 2014 at 2:34 PM, Laura Johnson
> mailto:rngad...@madisontelco.com>> wrote:
>
> I have this potential problem on one of the children in a family.
> The children are:
>
> Anna Corso born 26 Apr 1835
> Agostino Luciano Corso born 13 Dec 1837, died 2 Jan 1839
>
> The problem (red circle with exclamation point) is on Anna.  They are
> sorted correctly and she was born over a year after her parents
> marriage.  When you click to see what the problem is it states the
> second child (Agostino)'s birthdate is before Anna's which is NOT
> true.
>
> When you go into Anna's Individual Information and then click on the
> problem, the window pops up to say that there is no potential problem
> for this individual.
>
> I have closed and restarted Legacy and the problem still exists
> Has anyone else had this problem?  Does anyone know how to correct it?
>
>
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[LegacyUG] Birth date of Child 2 is before birth date of Child 1

[Laura Johnson]

I have this potential problem on one of the children in a family.
The children are:

Anna Corso born 26 Apr 1835
Agostino Luciano Corso born 13 Dec 1837, died 2 Jan 1839

The problem (red circle with exclamation point) is on Anna.  They are
sorted correctly and she was born over a year after her parents
marriage.  When you click to see what the problem is it states the
second child (Agostino)'s birthdate is before Anna's which is NOT true.

When you go into Anna's Individual Information and then click on the
problem, the window pops up to say that there is no potential problem
for this individual.

I have closed and restarted Legacy and the problem still exists
Has anyone else had this problem?  Does anyone know how to correct it?



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Re: [LegacyUG] Tagging Marriages

[Laura Johnson]

I would gladly use LTools IF it was able to do this.  But all of the
features listed on both the regular and deluxe versions do not mention
anything about tagging marriages.  If Dennis can confirm that it will do
this, I would gladly purchase it just to save me the time
On 10/26/2013 1:56 PM, Howard Cady wrote:
> Laura,  if you are slightly able to deal with databases and their
> structures, then I would suggest considering the Legacy add-on "LTOOLS" for
> major clean-up, and special tagging (marriages can have up to three tags).
> Dennis Kowallek, the LTOOLS programmer, has helped others with similar
> problems.  It may be possible to fix all FTM to Legacy conversions that have
> been messed up by the standard export-import process for all of your 54,000
> individuals and 17,000 marriages by direct manipulation of a copy of the
> Legacy database because you are dealing with only one version of FTM and
> only one version of Legacy.  NEVER work on your original family file with
> LTOOLS - only use a copy of your original file.
> Howard Cady
>
> ----- Original Message -
> From: "Laura Johnson" 
> To: 
> Sent: Saturday, October 26, 2013 7:52 AM
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Tagging Marriages
>
>
> This would have been a great idea EXCEPT that once you get the list, you
> are NOT getting the marriages to tag.  You still get a list of
> individuals to tag.  I already have tagged all individuals in the
> database and have been working my way through cleaning those up.
>
> There are 54,833 individuals and 17090 marriages.  The results of the
> trial run for this created a list of 52,601.  But if you look at the
> list, I would be re-tagging several thousand people that I had already
> cleared the tag on as my search list for the tag I was doing shows that
> I still have 49,654 still to go from my original tagging.
>
> First, let me tell you what I have been doing.  I have been entering all
> of the births, marriages and deaths from 1820 through 1910 from the
> microfilmed records from a town in Sicily.  I also have an online
> database for this town as well that is fully searchable.  I had been a
> loyal user of FTM from the early 1990's and had beta tested for them for
> years.  After beta testing their 2008 and 2009 versions, it was evident
> that Ver 16 was going to be the last version I would use due to the
> changes they had made to the program.  The newer versions cannot handle
> my file and scramble the details on sources when they are imported via
> gedcom from Ver 16 to FTM 2008, etc.
>
> I switched to Legacy on the advise of a friend who had been using it for
> years.  It was far superior to what FTM had in any version that I had
> used.  So I bought the deluxe version and have been using it ever since.
>
> But in bringing my files over to Legacy, I noticed that I needed to do
> cleanup on the way I had been doing things before I started using Legacy
> and even after I first started using Legacy because  I found other
> options or ways of doing things that were far superior in Legacy and I
> need to cleanup and redo things that were not done that way in the past.
>
> About a year ago, I tagged all individuals in the database with Tag #5.
> The description for this tag is:  FTM Cleanup Needed.  I also have tag 2
> and tag 3.  These tags designate my paternal great-grandfather's family
> (#2) and my maternal great-grandmother's family (#3).  This way I can
> easily see if a person is included in my ancestral lines or is just
> someone from the town.
>
> I have been working my way through the tag #5 as I enter more data in
> the file and cleaning them up as I go.  But it would be easier if I
> could see that the marriage tag was cleared because then I would know
> that I had already changed or fixed any problems with the children and
> descendants of that line.  I wouldn't need to choose each of the
> children one by one to confirm whether they were done or not.
>
> My thoughts were originally to use the marriage list to tag so that I
> could work through all of the marriage list.  I would select the first
> marriage on the search list, correct both the wife and husband and any
> children they had and remove the tag numbers for both the marriages and
> the individuals as I went for that marriage.  Then once I had worked
> through all of the marriages, I could then do a final search to find any
> unlinked individuals
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Re: [LegacyUG] Tagging Marriages

[Laura Johnson]

This would have been a great idea EXCEPT that once you get the list, you
are NOT getting the marriages to tag.  You still get a list of
individuals to tag.  I already have tagged all individuals in the
database and have been working my way through cleaning those up.

There are 54,833 individuals and 17090 marriages.  The results of the
trial run for this created a list of 52,601.  But if you look at the
list, I would be re-tagging several thousand people that I had already
cleared the tag on as my search list for the tag I was doing shows that
I still have 49,654 still to go from my original tagging.

First, let me tell you what I have been doing.  I have been entering all
of the births, marriages and deaths from 1820 through 1910 from the
microfilmed records from a town in Sicily.  I also have an online
database for this town as well that is fully searchable.  I had been a
loyal user of FTM from the early 1990's and had beta tested for them for
years.  After beta testing their 2008 and 2009 versions, it was evident
that Ver 16 was going to be the last version I would use due to the
changes they had made to the program.  The newer versions cannot handle
my file and scramble the details on sources when they are imported via
gedcom from Ver 16 to FTM 2008, etc.

I switched to Legacy on the advise of a friend who had been using it for
years.  It was far superior to what FTM had in any version that I had
used.  So I bought the deluxe version and have been using it ever since.

But in bringing my files over to Legacy, I noticed that I needed to do
cleanup on the way I had been doing things before I started using Legacy
and even after I first started using Legacy because  I found other
options or ways of doing things that were far superior in Legacy and I
need to cleanup and redo things that were not done that way in the past.

About a year ago, I tagged all individuals in the database with Tag #5.
The description for this tag is:  FTM Cleanup Needed.  I also have tag 2
and tag 3.  These tags designate my paternal great-grandfather's family
(#2) and my maternal great-grandmother's family (#3).  This way I can
easily see if a person is included in my ancestral lines or is just
someone from the town.

I have been working my way through the tag #5 as I enter more data in
the file and cleaning them up as I go.  But it would be easier if I
could see that the marriage tag was cleared because then I would know
that I had already changed or fixed any problems with the children and
descendants of that line.  I wouldn't need to choose each of the
children one by one to confirm whether they were done or not.

My thoughts were originally to use the marriage list to tag so that I
could work through all of the marriage list.  I would select the first
marriage on the search list, correct both the wife and husband and any
children they had and remove the tag numbers for both the marriages and
the individuals as I went for that marriage.  Then once I had worked
through all of the marriages, I could then do a final search to find any
unlinked individuals


On 10/26/2013 12:22 AM, Byron wrote:
> The closest I can find is to tag the Individuals, as Legacy does not seem to 
> allow tagging of marriage in the search function.
>
> (Marriage) (MRIN)  Look>(Not Equal To) (Tagged)  
> When list appears, > --when dialog window pops 
> up--select your tag#-- 
>
> Now all individuals in your marriage list will be tagged with which ever tag 
> # you selected.
> Hope it helps.
>
> Byron Schafbuch
> The SCHAFBUCH family heritage site
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Laura Johnson [mailto:rngad...@madisontelco.com]
> Sent: Friday, October 25, 2013 5:34 PM
> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Subject: [LegacyUG] Tagging Marriages
>
> Is there a way to tag ALL marriages in the database?  I can see how to do it 
> with individuals and I already have done that but I would like to tag all of 
> the marriages so that I can work through them to correct problems that were 
> in FTM before I converted the file to Legacy.  As I correct them, I remove 
> the tag from the individuals but I would like to do the same thing with all 
> of the marriages as well
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[LegacyUG] Tagging Marriages

[Laura Johnson]

Is there a way to tag ALL marriages in the database?  I can see how to
do it with individuals and I already have done that but I would like to
tag all of the marriages so that I can work through them to correct
problems that were in FTM before I converted the file to Legacy.  As I
correct them, I remove the tag from the individuals but I would like to
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Re: [LegacyUG] Preferred Spouse

[Laura Johnson]

Put yourself and your third wife on the screen, then go to your bookmark
and right click on it.  It saves you in this marriage
On 8/18/2013 11:16 AM, Howlanddavisii wrote:
> Ward (and Laura):
> How do I set the bookmark to a couple?  When I hover over my name
> (and the other bookmarks), it says, "Jump to This Person or
> Right-Click to Set New Bookmark."  Legacy does not appear to let me do
> what you say.
>But it does seem that we are getting closer to a solution.  Thanks.
> Howland Davis
> -Original Message-
> From: Ward Walker 
> To: LegacyUserGroup 
> Sent: Sun, Aug 18, 2013 11:32 am
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Preferred Spouse
>
> Ah! That’s the problem. You hadn’t mentioned bookmarks before. My
> bookmark list is clearly by couple, not by individual. You just need
> to reset your bookmark from the correct couple.
>Ward
> *From:* Howlanddavisii 
> *Sent:* Sunday, August 18, 2013 10:18 AM
> *To:* LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> 
> *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Preferred Spouse
> Jay:
>I am not sure that I understand what you were saying but it makes
> me want to add information and to try something.
>Maybe that is my problem.  My tree is basically a descendancy tree
> coming down from the 1650s to my grandchildren but I am the root
> person for the preferred line (none of my children or grandchildren
> are in bold type).  After I confirm that my third wife is the
> preferred spouse, I go away from that husband and wife screen under
> two scenarios.
>1) I go back to my great grandfather, etc., and then I click on
>my name which is one of the three bookmark names at the
>bottom of the screen.  I and my first wife are shown; this is
>not as I want it.
>2) I go back to my great grandfather, etc., and then I come
>back down through my grandfather, then to his daughter
>and then to me.  I and my third wife are shown; this is how
>I want it.
>Why don't the two methods end in the same result?
> Howland Davis
> -Original Message-
> From: Jay 1FamilyTree <1familytree@gmail.com
> >
> To: LegacyUserGroup  >
> Sent: Sat, Aug 17, 2013 9:19 pm
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Preferred Spouse
>
> Wendy,
>
> I beg to differ
> You said
> "*It bears no connection to what relationships are set in your file,*/as/
> /suggested previously. Its purpose is to determine which spouse will
> appear next to the individual you navigate to."/
>
> If you use the "Set Preferred line" that WILL change an ancestors
> spouse to preferred if it wasn't already.
>
> And then if you navigate back to someone who is not a descendant of
> the couple to whom the preferred setting was changed, it will stay
> that way, until you manually change it back, or until you select a
> descendant of the original preferred couple and set preferred line.
>
> Does that make sense?
>
> Jay
>
> On Sat, Aug 17, 2013 at 5:58 PM, Wendy Howard  > wrote:
>
> The Preferred Spouse is set to the individual, the person whose
> spouses
> you are looking at.
>
> Click on the spouse icon (in Family View that's the single person
> of the
> opposite sex at the left-hand end of the icons in the husband and wife
> boxes) and another window will open up listing the spouses for
> that person.
>
> One of the spouses listed will have an asterisk (*) in the P column -
> that's the "preferred" spouse for this particular person.  By
> default it
> is the first spouse attached to that person.
>
> If there is more than one spouse, you can choose which spouse will be
> the "preferred" one - that means that when you navigate to this person
> (not the spouse), this is the spouse who will appear next to them.  It
> has no bearing on which is the first spouse or how they will appear in
> reports, that is determined using the Order arrows to sort them as you
> wish them to appear.
>
> It bears no connection to what relationships are set in your file, as
> suggested previously.  Its purpose is to determine which spouse will
> appear next to the individual you navigate to.
>
> I don't know what the problem is that Howland isn't getting the result
> he should be seeing.  Howland, I presume you've closed down Legacy and
> rebooted your computer since this all started?  It's sounding to
> me like
> you need to contact Support for this, if you haven't already.
>
> Kind Regards,
> Wendy
>
>
> David Abernathy said the following on 18/08/2013 12:33 p.m.:
> >
> > To whom is the setting “Preferred Spouse† set to?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > David C Abernathy
> >
> >
> > *From:*Kathy Thompson [mailto:kmthoms...@gmail.com
> ]
> > *Sent:* Saturday

Re: [LegacyUG] Preferred Spouse

[Laura Johnson]

#1 response - you need to set that bookmark to you and your third wife.
Delete the one you have, then go to your third wife  with you and save
it as your bookmark
I have my third relationship set as preferred and when I click the
bookmark it always goes to that one.
On 8/18/2013 9:18 AM, Howlanddavisii wrote:
> Jay:
>I am not sure that I understand what you were saying but it makes
> me want to add information and to try something.
>Maybe that is my problem.  My tree is basically a descendancy tree
> coming down from the 1650s to my grandchildren but I am the root
> person for the preferred line (none of my children or grandchildren
> are in bold type). After I confirm that my third wife is the preferred
> spouse, I go away from that husband and wife screen under two scenarios.
>1) I go back to my great grandfather, etc., and then I click on
>my name which is one of the three bookmark names at the
>bottom of the screen.  I and my first wife are shown; this is
>not as I want it.
>2) I go back to my great grandfather, etc., and then I come
>back down through my grandfather, then to his daughter
>and then to me.  I and my third wife are shown; this is how
>I want it.
>Why don't the two methods end in the same result?
> Howland Davis
> -Original Message-
> From: Jay 1FamilyTree <1familytree@gmail.com>
> To: LegacyUserGroup 
> Sent: Sat, Aug 17, 2013 9:19 pm
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Preferred Spouse
>
> Wendy,
>
> I beg to differ
> You said
> "*It bears no connection to what relationships are set in your file,*/as/
> /suggested previously.  Its purpose is to determine which spouse will
> appear next to the individual you navigate to."/
>
> If you use the "Set Preferred line"  that WILL change an ancestors
> spouse to preferred if it wasn't already.
>
> And then if you navigate back to someone who is not a descendant of
> the couple to whom the preferred setting was changed, it will stay
> that way, until you manually change it back, or until you select a
> descendant of the original preferred couple and set preferred line.
>
> Does that make sense?
>
> Jay
>
> On Sat, Aug 17, 2013 at 5:58 PM, Wendy Howard  > wrote:
>
> The Preferred Spouse is set to the individual, the person whose
> spouses
> you are looking at.
>
> Click on the spouse icon (in Family View that's the single person
> of the
> opposite sex at the left-hand end of the icons in the husband and wife
> boxes) and another window will open up listing the spouses for
> that person.
>
> One of the spouses listed will have an asterisk (*) in the P column -
> that's the "preferred" spouse for this particular person.  By
> default it
> is the first spouse attached to that person.
>
> If there is more than one spouse, you can choose which spouse will be
> the "preferred" one - that means that when you navigate to this person
> (not the spouse), this is the spouse who will appear next to them.  It
> has no bearing on which is the first spouse or how they will appear in
> reports, that is determined using the Order arrows to sort them as you
> wish them to appear.
>
> It bears no connection to what relationships are set in your file, as
> suggested previously.  Its purpose is to determine which spouse will
> appear next to the individual you navigate to.
>
> I don't know what the problem is that Howland isn't getting the result
> he should be seeing.  Howland, I presume you've closed down Legacy and
> rebooted your computer since this all started?  It's sounding to
> me like
> you need to contact Support for this, if you haven't already.
>
> Kind Regards,
> Wendy
>
>
> David Abernathy said the following on 18/08/2013 12:33 p.m.:
> >
> > To whom is the setting “Preferred Spouse† set to?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > David C Abernathy
> >
> >
> > *From:*Kathy Thompson [mailto:kmthoms...@gmail.com
> ]
> > *Sent:* Saturday, August 17, 2013 5:02 PM
> > *To:* LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> 
> > *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Preferred Spouse
> >
> > Howland:
> >
> > Logically, yes - so why it's not working, I'm not sure.
> >
> > Hopefully someone more techy and Legacy knowledgable will have
> or find
> > the answer for you
> >
> > Kathy
> >
> > On 18 August 2013 09:26, Howlanddavisii  
> > >>
> wrote:
> >
> > Kathy:
> >
> > Yes it makes sense.  But I am the root person for the direct line so
> > that should mean that I can make decide which wife is the preferred,
> > right?
> >
> > Howland Davis
> >
> > -Original Message--

Re: [LegacyUG] marriages

[Laura Johnson]

or seeing mizspelt misspelled

On 6/23/2013 12:43 PM, Ron Walter wrote:
> Seeing ad nauseam mizspelt may make some people want to throw up.
>
> "Why does this thread continue ad mausium?  Please exchange E-Mails and take 
> it off-line!  It was already old last week."
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Computer crashed - how do I move legacy to new computer?

[Laura Johnson]

I do two different backup scenarios.  I feel more comfortable with what
I am doing as I also run 2 major websites and I have countless hours
invested in those and all of their projects, databases, pictures, etc

The first scenario takes 2 external hard drives.  On the first Friday of
every month, I ghost copy my external drive to a different external
drive.  Then on that Saturday morning, I go to the safe deposit box and
put it in and remove the one from the previous month.

The second scenario is that I have two 32 gig thumb drives.  I have all
major files backed up to them.  If any major changes are made to these
file, I immediately back up to these thumb drives as well as well as to
my external drive.  I carry these thumb drives with me - one in my purse
and one on my keychain.

On 3/26/2013 6:34 PM, JLB wrote:
> I don't understand the point of a safety deposit box, as someone
> suggested. Do you go get the drive out, bring it home, update it and go
> put it back in the box? If I had that kind of routine on my schedule I'd
> probably only get it done once a year.
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Re: [LegacyUG] Flip-Pal

[Laura Johnson]

so far, I haven't had any documents that were wider than the wand. I did
try an experiment in which I scanned a wall chart that was 3 times wider
than the wand's width.  Scanned it in 3 sections and used my photo
program to put the three scans together.  Using a friend's Flip-Pal, it
took 21 scans to get the whole chart scanned and the stitching didn't
work - you could see where every scan was stitched to the others.

think of it this way - with the flip-pal, you can only scan about 1/3 to
1/2 of a regular 8x11 paper at the most.  I can do that same 8x11 in one
scan.  No need to keep stitching images together to get the whole thing.

On 10/13/2012 4:58 PM, Lee Bruch wrote:
> But what if the width of the document is wider than the wand?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Laura Johnson [mailto:rngad...@madisontelco.com]
> Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2012 2:43 PM
> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Flip-Pal
>
> you don't need to stitch them together.  You scan the length of the document 
> without taking it in separate images.  Mine can scan up to 50 inches in 
> length in one scan.
>
> On 10/13/2012 4:37 PM, Lee Bruch wrote:
>> Can the scans from the VuPoint Wand be stitched together?
>> Lee
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Nancy Porter [mailto:nport...@twcny.rr.com]
>> Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2012 2:28 PM
>> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
>> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Flip-Pal
>>
>> I also use the VuPoint Wand. Its a great scanner.
>> Nancy
>>
>> On 10/13/2012 7:45 AM, Laura Johnson wrote:
>>> I use the VuPoint Magic Wand for scanning.  I didn't care for the
>>> Flip-Pal
>>>
>>> http://www.vupoint-magic-wand.com/
>>>
>>> On 10/13/2012 1:41 AM, Garry F Bell wrote:
>>>> 'evening
>>>>
>>>> I am considering purchasing a Flip-Pal to enable me to scan  A4 size
>>>> documents.  Having made enquiries amongst fellow Genealogists I get
>>>> the impression it is "not the best".
>>>>
>>>> I know that Flip-Pal is ideal for photographs and small newspaper
>>>> items but how do others overcome it's size limitations?
>>>>
>>>> With thanks
>>>> Garry
>>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Flip-Pal

[Laura Johnson]

you don't need to stitch them together.  You scan the length of the
document without taking it in separate images.  Mine can scan up to 50
inches in length in one scan.

On 10/13/2012 4:37 PM, Lee Bruch wrote:
> Can the scans from the VuPoint Wand be stitched together?
> Lee
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Nancy Porter [mailto:nport...@twcny.rr.com]
> Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2012 2:28 PM
> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Flip-Pal
>
> I also use the VuPoint Wand. Its a great scanner.
> Nancy
>
> On 10/13/2012 7:45 AM, Laura Johnson wrote:
>> I use the VuPoint Magic Wand for scanning.  I didn't care for the
>> Flip-Pal
>>
>> http://www.vupoint-magic-wand.com/
>>
>> On 10/13/2012 1:41 AM, Garry F Bell wrote:
>>> 'evening
>>>
>>> I am considering purchasing a Flip-Pal to enable me to scan  A4 size
>>> documents.  Having made enquiries amongst fellow Genealogists I get
>>> the impression it is "not the best".
>>>
>>> I know that Flip-Pal is ideal for photographs and small newspaper
>>> items but how do others overcome it's size limitations?
>>>
>>> With thanks
>>> Garry
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Flip-Pal

[Laura Johnson]

I use the VuPoint Magic Wand for scanning.  I didn't care for the Flip-Pal
http://www.vupoint-magic-wand.com/

On 10/13/2012 1:41 AM, Garry F Bell wrote:
> 'evening
>
> I am considering purchasing a Flip-Pal to enable me to scan  A4 size
> documents.  Having made enquiries amongst fellow Genealogists I get the
> impression it is "not the best".
>
> I know that Flip-Pal is ideal for photographs and small newspaper items
> but how do others overcome it's size limitations?
>
> With thanks
> Garry
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Trellis Chart

[Laura Johnson]

GeneaQuilts uses a gedcom file to form their chart
Progeny's version is in their Charting Companion.  I ordered the
Charting Companion for Legacy.  You can order it for several programs
like FTM as well).  When I open the program, it automatically searched
for my Legacy files, and created a list of the files available.  Then I
chose the file I wanted and then it created the chart from that file
which was not a gedcom file.

IF your family file is small and everyone is connected to one another,
it works fine.  I exported only one of my direct lines to a smaller file
(roughly 900 people descended from one person).  It created the file ok
without a lot of problems or waiting.  Still, the more generations there
are, the more confusing the Trellis becomes.  With 14 generations it was
almost impossible to follow it.

Using my full file for the one location study in Termini (58000+
people), there are too many families that are NOT connected to others.
It tries inserting these families wherever it can and they do not really
fit.  4 generations was an astronomically large number of pages and I
once it went past the first generation, I couldn't see a full generation
on the monitor at one time on a 22" monitor.
On 9/10/2012 11:12 AM, Paula Ryburn wrote:
> Debbie, I think I found the correct website, and it would appear this
> sw operates on GEDCOM files.  Am I on the right track?  Thx.
> --Paula in Texas
> Researching: Adair Baker Beasley Benson Betz Bigley Blagrave Burton
> Chapman Clement Clough Coppernoll Costine Daulton Dinwiddie Doody
> Ellis Exline Field Floran Floyd Gates Goodale Gordon Gump Hale
> Harbaugh Hind Hopkins Hughes Hurdle Jones Klein Koyle Laswell McDonald
> Misner Passwaters Pelton Roberts Roche Ryburn Sanford Short Singer
> Sullivan Weller Williams
>
>
> 
> *From:* Debbie Pruitt 
> *To:* LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> *Sent:* Mon, September 10, 2012 7:17:57 AM
> *Subject:* RE: [LegacyUG] Trellis Chart
>
> This sentence appears on the GeneaQuilts website under Follow-ups:
> "GeneaQuilts has been implements by the commercial software Progeny
> Genealogy and renamed Trellis Charts." I haven't investigated their
> free download yet. I think their video, at one point, refers to a
> large file of about 700 names.
>
> Debbie Hendren Pruitt
> North Carolina
> 
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Re: [LegacyUG] Trellis Chart

[Laura Johnson]

It was not in my version 3 but is in Version 4.  I just downloaded the
new upgrade and tried it.  With a little over 58000+ names in my file,
the chart is projected to be 178 pages wide by 798 pages long for the
all inclusive.  I tried to just do a Trellis for one person (my
great-grandfather) in my family but it seems to include all of the
relatives of that one person.  I told it to only do 4 generations.
Definitely not a chart print for me.  More than a couple of generations
and it is hard to read.

On 9/9/2012 1:56 PM, Denise Moss-Fritch wrote:
> Hi Tim,
>
> Yes, the Trellis cart is new, however it is a part of Charting Companion 
> according to the information at the Prodgeny Software web site. Unfortunately 
> the site does not state whether this chart is an addition to version 3, or is 
> part of a new version 4 release. I am hoping for a bit more information from 
> the company.
>
> Best,
>
> Denise L. Moss-Fritch
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Tim Rosenlof [mailto:spa...@xmission.com]
> Sent: Sunday, September 09, 2012 9:07 AM
> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Subject: [LegacyUG] Trellis Chart
>
> Prodgeny Software, the creator of a few Legacy addons (Legacy Charting 
> Companion, Map My Family Tree, Genlines), has created a new 'all in one'
> chart.
>
>   From their webpage:
>
> " The Trellis chart is a new way to tell the story of your family.
> Unlike traditional box charts, the Trellis can show all the people in your 
> tree, even those who are not in the direct bloodline. Your ancestors and 
> descendants are listed by row within their generation. Members of a family 
> are grouped by columns."
>
> http://progenygenealogy.com/products/family-tree-charts/trellis.aspx
>
> Tim Rosenlof
> Utah, USA
> Swedish Research
>
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Descendant Report - Statistics

[Laura Johnson]

Ron,
This did EXACTLY what I needed it to do.  Thanks.
Laura

On 9/2/2012 7:02 PM, Ron Taylor wrote:
> Laura,
> Here's one way to do what you're asking.
> 1) Navigate to the ancestor for which descendants will be tabulated.
> 2) Clear Tag 1 for Everyone in the database.
> 3) Set Tag 1 for descendants of individual in step 1.
> 4) Tools>Set Relationships
>  set Blood relationships limit to the closest = 1
>  click "Show the closest direct-line relationship"
>  set Non-blood relationships limit to the closest = 0
>  click "Set Relationships"
> 5) Search>Detailed Search
>  Individual Tag1 Equal to Tagged
>  Individual Relationship Equal to Related
>  click "Clear List before this search"
>  click "Create List"
> 6) When Search List displays
>  click "Print"
>  click Optional Fields "Customize"
>  change one of the fields to be "Relationship"
>  click "Close" on the Customize Display
>  check the box under Optional fields called "Relshp"
>  check the other boxes as desired such as RIN, Surname, Sex
>  click "CSV file"
>  click "Create"
>  enter a filename to receive the CSV data
>  click "Save" (remember the filename and where it is located)
>  close out of Legacy
> 7) Open the CSV file with a spreadsheet program like Excel
>  use the Filter options to count the various relationships
>  or sort by Relshp and sub-total with each relationship change
> 8) You could also produce a Descendant report with a "Relationship" column 
> and then count each type of relationship on the report if you don't want to 
> use an export to a spreadsheet.
>
>
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[LegacyUG] Descendant Report - Statistics

[Laura Johnson]

I have a friend who is wanting to see if the following can be done.  I
have not been able to figure it out for him.
He is using a descendant report which is 14 generations and about 1500+
people.

His questions are:
1.  Is there a way to find the oldest person in a specific generation
such as Gen 4 or Gen 7
2.  Is there a way to find the youngest person in a specific generation
3.  Is there a way to determine how many individuals there are in a
specific generation?

If it can't be done with a descendant report - is there any report, etc
that can achieve this?

thanks
Laura





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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy/Families/iPad/Spreadsheet Help

[Laura Johnson]

Thanks for everyone's help.

First I used DropBox to get it available for the iPad.
Next I purchased QuickOffice ProHD and was able to successfully open the
file.
Although the file is very slow to open due to the size, I can at least
view it and work with it in Families for entry if I want or be able to
search the file if I need to.

I also tried Malcolm's other solution and attached the file to Families
and it worked great there as well

On 8/17/2012 3:00 AM, Malcolm Green wrote:
> I use and can recommend QuickOffice Pro HD.
>
> However, it's possible to view a spreadsheet or other types of Office 
> documents on the iPad without any additional apps using the built-in Quick 
> View.  You can initiate this from any app that has access to the document.  
> For example, if you send the Excel file to yourself as an attachment and open 
> it with the Mail app on the iPad, then tap the attachment icon, it will 
> display the spreadsheet in Quick View.  If you tap the icon with the arrow at 
> the top right of the screen, you can then choose to open the document in 
> other apps which support the document type.  So if you have QuickOffice 
> installed, you can select it here.
>
> Note also that if you attach the spreadsheet as a document in Legacy (from 
> the Picture Gallery), and select "Copy Documents" in the Families Sync 
> settings, the spreadsheet file will be embedded in the SQLite file 
> transferred to the iPad.  You can then open it in Families from the 
> appropriate screen, again initially in Quick View.  You may need to increase 
> the maximum document size in the Families Sync settings - it currently allows 
> up to 20Mb.
>
> Malcolm Green
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Laura Johnson [mailto:rngad...@madisontelco.com]
> Sent: 16 August 2012 23:16
> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Subject: [LegacyUG] Legacy/Families/iPad/Spreadsheet Help
>
> This is slightly offlist.  You can fee free to contact me offlist regarding 
> any solutions you can see.
>
> I have Legacy Deluxe and use Families to use the Legacy file on my iPad and 
> it works great.
>
> my problem is that I also use an Excel file as a companion to my Legacy file. 
>  It contains a complete database of all of the records I have transcribed for 
> a place in Sicily (91 years of births, marriages and deaths - over 155,000 
> records so far).  I am in the process of entering these records into Legacy 
> (slowly).  I would love to bring this spreadsheet file over to the iPad as 
> well but can't seem to find a conversion program on the iPad that will work. 
> I found one
> (iSpreadsheet) that said it would work with Excel files but it uses Google 
> Docs/Google Drive and Google Drive can't handle the size of the Excel file.  
> Don't even suggest OpenOffice as OO cannot handle the Excel file in a windows 
> environment (it is too slow).
>
> So what I need is a way to Convert the Excel file into a spreadsheet on the 
> iPad so that I can work to enter the documents Families while I am traveling
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy/Families/iPad/Spreadsheet Help

[Laura Johnson]

I guess it is confusing.
The Excel file contains over 20 sheets which contain over 155000
documents which have been transcribed and is fully searchable and sortable.
I enter these records one line at a time into the Legacy file (or
hopefully I will be able to do this with Families when I am traveling).
My problem is getting an application for the iPad which will read the
Excel file.


On 8/16/2012 6:24 PM, Ron Ferguson wrote:
> I was not suggesting that you use OOo, you already made it clear that you
> did not wish to, but that you break you Excel file into smaller sections
> which Goggle etc. might be able to handle.
>
> I understood from your post that you wished to enter the Excel File(s?) into
> Families using your iPad which you could subsequently sync with Legacy.
> Apparently not.
>
> Ron Ferguson
> http://www.fergys.co.uk/
>
>
> -----Original Message-
> From: Laura Johnson
> Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 12:09 AM
> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy/Families/iPad/Spreadsheet Help
>
> First, I would need to copy it into about 10 separate files to get OOo
> to work with the file.
> Secondly, I don't need any help with Families.  That works great and I
> can enter all I want and sync back when I get back home.  I just need
> something that will convert the excel file to a spreadsheet application
> on the iPad so that I can view the spreadsheet file.
>
> On 8/16/2012 5:59 PM, Ron Ferguson wrote:
>> Laura,
>>
>> I am not an Excel user (being an OOo man!), however, is it not possible
>> for
>> you to copy just a section of your Excel file into a new sheet, which you
>> can then transfer using Google?
>>
>> However, I would be tempted to get in touch with Malcolm Green at TelGen
>> and
>> they do have a Forum: http://www.telgen.co.uk/families/forum/ which may be
>> able to help. I'm afraid that unlike for Legacy I do not know the
>> construction of Families :-)
>>
>> Ron Ferguson
>> http://www.fergys.co.uk/
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Laura Johnson
>> Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2012 11:15 PM
>> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
>> Subject: [LegacyUG] Legacy/Families/iPad/Spreadsheet Help
>>
>> This is slightly offlist.  You can fee free to contact me offlist
>> regarding any solutions you can see.
>>
>> I have Legacy Deluxe and use Families to use the Legacy file on my iPad
>> and it works great.
>>
>> my problem is that I also use an Excel file as a companion to my Legacy
>> file.  It contains a complete database of all of the records I have
>> transcribed for a place in Sicily (91 years of births, marriages and
>> deaths - over 155,000 records so far).  I am in the process of entering
>> these records into Legacy (slowly).  I would love to bring this
>> spreadsheet file over to the iPad as well but can't seem to find a
>> conversion program on the iPad that will work. I found one
>> (iSpreadsheet) that said it would work with Excel files but it uses
>> Google Docs/Google Drive and Google Drive can't handle the size of the
>> Excel file.  Don't even suggest OpenOffice as OO cannot handle the Excel
>> file in a windows environment (it is too slow).
>>
>> So what I need is a way to Convert the Excel file into a spreadsheet on
>> the iPad so that I can work to enter the documents Families while I am
>> traveling
>>
>
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy/Families/iPad/Spreadsheet Help

[Laura Johnson]

First, I would need to copy it into about 10 separate files to get OOo
to work with the file.
Secondly, I don't need any help with Families.  That works great and I
can enter all I want and sync back when I get back home.  I just need
something that will convert the excel file to a spreadsheet application
on the iPad so that I can view the spreadsheet file.

On 8/16/2012 5:59 PM, Ron Ferguson wrote:
> Laura,
>
> I am not an Excel user (being an OOo man!), however, is it not possible for
> you to copy just a section of your Excel file into a new sheet, which you
> can then transfer using Google?
>
> However, I would be tempted to get in touch with Malcolm Green at TelGen and
> they do have a Forum: http://www.telgen.co.uk/families/forum/ which may be
> able to help. I'm afraid that unlike for Legacy I do not know the
> construction of Families :-)
>
> Ron Ferguson
> http://www.fergys.co.uk/
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Laura Johnson
> Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2012 11:15 PM
> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Subject: [LegacyUG] Legacy/Families/iPad/Spreadsheet Help
>
> This is slightly offlist.  You can fee free to contact me offlist
> regarding any solutions you can see.
>
> I have Legacy Deluxe and use Families to use the Legacy file on my iPad
> and it works great.
>
> my problem is that I also use an Excel file as a companion to my Legacy
> file.  It contains a complete database of all of the records I have
> transcribed for a place in Sicily (91 years of births, marriages and
> deaths - over 155,000 records so far).  I am in the process of entering
> these records into Legacy (slowly).  I would love to bring this
> spreadsheet file over to the iPad as well but can't seem to find a
> conversion program on the iPad that will work. I found one
> (iSpreadsheet) that said it would work with Excel files but it uses
> Google Docs/Google Drive and Google Drive can't handle the size of the
> Excel file.  Don't even suggest OpenOffice as OO cannot handle the Excel
> file in a windows environment (it is too slow).
>
> So what I need is a way to Convert the Excel file into a spreadsheet on
> the iPad so that I can work to enter the documents Families while I am
> traveling
>
>
>
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[LegacyUG] Legacy/Families/iPad/Spreadsheet Help

[Laura Johnson]

This is slightly offlist.  You can fee free to contact me offlist
regarding any solutions you can see.

I have Legacy Deluxe and use Families to use the Legacy file on my iPad
and it works great.

my problem is that I also use an Excel file as a companion to my Legacy
file.  It contains a complete database of all of the records I have
transcribed for a place in Sicily (91 years of births, marriages and
deaths - over 155,000 records so far).  I am in the process of entering
these records into Legacy (slowly).  I would love to bring this
spreadsheet file over to the iPad as well but can't seem to find a
conversion program on the iPad that will work. I found one
(iSpreadsheet) that said it would work with Excel files but it uses
Google Docs/Google Drive and Google Drive can't handle the size of the
Excel file.  Don't even suggest OpenOffice as OO cannot handle the Excel
file in a windows environment (it is too slow).

So what I need is a way to Convert the Excel file into a spreadsheet on
the iPad so that I can work to enter the documents Families while I am
traveling



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Fwd: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy > Dropbox > Syncback

[Laura Johnson]

I would be very wary of putting anything  on a Wordpress site. Wordpress
is a prime target for hackers as it is easily hacked into.  I just had
one of my sites hijacked back in February and I am still cleaning up
messes from that.


 Original Message 
Subject:Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy > Dropbox > Syncback
Date:   Sat, 11 Aug 2012 10:17:53 +0100
From:   Charani 
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To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com

I think I'd be more inclined to deposit files in a private area of one
of my domains - so long as I could remember the URL, of course! :)) I
also have a couple of Wordpress sites.




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Re: [LegacyUG] Passage Express and Legacy Charting removal

[Laura Johnson]

office depot and office max have 1T for less than $100.  I got my last
Seagate 500G for under $60 at Wal-mart

On 6/15/2012 3:49 PM, Ron Ferguson wrote:
> Elizabeth,
> How big is the external HD?  Over here (England) you can get a
> reasonably sized one for not much more than half that price. When I
> hit the same problem with a 40GB HD on my XP, I bought a 250GB
> external drive for around $80 – it was a long time ago so not
> absolutely sure about the price, but it provided more than enough
> memory until I upgraded the PC.
> Ron Ferguson
> http://www.fergys.co.uk/
> *From:* elizabeth 
> *Sent:* Friday, June 15, 2012 9:15 PM
> *To:* LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> 
> *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Passage Express and Legacy Charting removal
> Well, it looks like I am in trouble from the numerous replies I
> received :-(
>
> Since I am an old lady on Soc Sec, a new computer or $150 external
> hard drive just doesn't fit in, so I am going to have to just save
> photos to CD's and hope they last. No other choice at this point (but
> a good suggestion to give my kids for my Christmas present...LOL).
>
> I certainly appreciate the information I received from this list. I
> have a much better understanding of what my computer is like.
>
> Elizabeth
> 
>
> On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 3:06 PM, JLB mailto:j...@jgen.ws>>
> wrote:
>
> I remember when I had a 30GB hard-drive. I couldn't see past my
> nose and
> made some really bad choices like making some photos smaller to
> save space.
>
> 1.47GB left on your computer means you're already past the point where
> you could even defrag it. You don't have enough room to turn around in
> basically.
>
> There's a point at which it's time to upgrade. 40GB hard-drives, which
> it sounds like you have, went out of a style around 2005 I think.
>
> If you just can't, you can buy an external hard-drive and keep your
> photos on that. Although I would recommend having at least two of
> them.
>
> But, if at all possible, get yourself a new computer. And some
> external
> hard-drives for back up. Removing 20MB of Passage Express and Legacy
> Charting is not going to help you.
>
> 
> JL | http://www.jgen.ws/jlog/
>
> On 6/14/2012 11:54 AM, elizabeth wrote:
> > Hi Jan, Thank you for your reply. I'm not too knowledgeable about
> > computers. I have a Passage Express folder in my Drive C, under
> Program
> > Files (not under the Legacy folder), that is 1.64MB. I have
> never used
> > Passage Express so I don't even know what it is.
> >
> > Legacy Charting is a folder under Legacy and when I right click
> it says
> > the Size is 18.2MB. I have never used this either.
> >
> > But I need the space. I'm trying to remove anything that I don't
> use or
> > need because I want to scan and save the 'many' photo albums my
> parents
> > put together during their lifetimes. My computer is already
> stuffed full
> > of genealogy-related material along with all the files for my
> husband's
> > web site, kids pictures, etc...none of which I ever want to
> remove
> > or lose.
> >
> > My computer uses Windows XP. When I right-click my C Drive and
> look at
> > the "pie chart" for my computer it shows that I have used 34.7GB and
> > have 1.47GB of free space left. That doesn't seem like much
> space left
> > to use for all these photo albums.
> >
> > Whenever I want to remove a program from my computer I have to
> search or
> > email the producer of the product and find out how to remove it
> manually
> > since I cannot use the Add/Remove feature.
> >
> >
> > Elizabeth
> > =
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 11:44 PM, Jan Roberts
> mailto:poo...@ozemail.com.au>
> > >>
> wrote:
> >
> > Passage Express only takes up 95MB so even if it came up in your
> > “Add / Remove Programs† list it probably isn’t 
> worth
> removing.
> > Can’t see that you can remove Legacy Charting separately
> – it has
> > its own icon in my system, but doesn’t come up in its own
> right on
> > my programs list (only in the Legacy 7.5 folder) but it
> appears to
> > only take up 4KB so even if you could remove it you would
> hardly be
> > saving any disk space.  What makes you think they take up a huge
> > amount of space?  Perhaps someone more knowledgeable than me
> will
> > say I’m wrong about the amount of space used.
> >
> > As to why your “Add / Rem

Re: [LegacyUG] Families - Syncing from Laptop to New IPad

[Laura Johnson]

I was following those instructions to the T.  Even my finance walked
through the steps with me and agreed that I was not missing anything
along the way.  I tried both by WiFi and by USB.  I finally shut it off
and went to bed.  Started it back up this morning and it synced just fine.


> On Jun 13, 2012, at 10:42 PM, Leon Chapman wrote:
>
>> Follow the instructions at the URL below
>>
>> http://www.telgen.co.uk/families/styled-3/index.html
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>> Leon Chapman
>> chap...@gmail.com
>>
>> On Jun 13, 2012, at 7:19 PM, Laura Johnson  wrote:
>>
>>> Can someone who has experience with Families help me to sync my Legacy
>>> file to my new iPad.  It worked fine to do my iPhone but I cannot figure
>>> out what I am doing wrong with the iPad.
>>>
>>>
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[LegacyUG] Families - Syncing from Laptop to New IPad

[Laura Johnson]

Can someone who has experience with Families help me to sync my Legacy
file to my new iPad.  It worked fine to do my iPhone but I cannot figure
out what I am doing wrong with the iPad.



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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy 7.5 and source citation import?

[Laura Johnson]

Leonard,

I am a previous user of FTM16 (and still do a gedcom backwards to the
program for various charts, etc that Legacy does not do).  My sources
transferred correctly without any problems.  All fields of the source
transferred correctly to Legacy from the FTM16 gedcom.  Did you use the
following gedcom options when exporting the file?
Destination:FTW
Gedcom: 5.5
Character set: Ansi
Abbreviated tags check marked

On 2/12/2012 2:54 PM, gambol wrote:
> Paul and Ron, FTM v16 uses a straight forward two screen templet similar
> to Legacy's basic source approach.  V16 was discontinued in 2008 when
> Ancestry tried to invent the wheel, but there is little difference
> between the two programs when selecting an existing source or
> adding/creating a new source. From FTM v16 to Legacy this part works as
> it should. Both FTM and Legacy require knowledge of correct source
> format. When a source citation is entered from scratch, and not from a
> GEDCOM, the check boxes under the text and comments "add this
> text to the source citation" work and the source and citation information
> appear as they should in the printed reports.
>
> Paul, your comment leads me to believe that Legacy does not automatically
> populate these text/comment boxes when importing a GEDCOM file. It could
> be that FTM does not keep the data in a correctly named GEDCOM field.
> Interestingly, there were not GEDCOM errors noted.
>
> Leonard
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, 12 Feb 2012 12:56:22 -0700 "Paul Gray"
> writes:
>> I can't really comment on the data transfer between FTM and Legacy.
>>
>> But, if I understand you correctly, the missing information is on
>> the edit source detail screen, under the text and/or comments tab.
>> Have you checked, under the text and comments boxes, the "add this
>> text to the source citation" boxes?
>>
>> Paul Gray
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> From: Ron Ferguson [mailto:ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk]
>> Sent: February-12-12 12:35 PM
>> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
>> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy 7.5 and source citation import?
>>
>> Leonard,
>>
>> Am I correct in thinking that FTM16 has a template system for its
>> sources similar to Legacy’s Source Writer? If so the problem is
>> that a GEDCOM does not recognise the layout – it is the same with
>> the Legacy version. I suspect that the best you can hope for is some
>> sort of Basic Sourcing.
>>
>> Maybe there is someone who has transferred similar files who can
>> advise you, but I cannot think of an easy way round the problem
>>
>>
>> From: gambol
>> Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2012 5:29 PM
>> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
>> Subject: [LegacyUG] Legacy 7.5 and source citation import?
>>
>> When I import a GEDCOM file from Family Tree Maker v16, the FTM
>> source Citation Page and Citation Text fields do not property appear
>> in the footnote/endnote when generating a Legacy v7.5 narrative
>> report.
>>
>> In Legacy's Show List of Assigned Sources, the page and text
>> information does appear under the Text/Comment tab and in the Source
>> Detail Text and Detail Comments fields, but does not under the
>> Output tab. The result is when viewing a narrative report, the
>> footnote/endnote appears with only the Source List Name. The Detail
>> Text information does not, which of course is needed to located the
>> detail information within the source.
>>
>> An example of one of my  FTM file census citations: Census, 1900 CT,
>> New Haven Co, Waterbury Township, District 418, p.8, date, state.
>> In Legacy's narrative report only the source, Census, 1900 CT,
>> appears.
>>
>> MY work-around is to copy the Detail Text to the Source Detail field
>> on a source citation by source citation basis. This is acceptable
>> for a small file, but not for my family file with 40,000 +
>> individuals; each with an average of three source citations per
>> person.  Is there an option I am missing, or is this an anomaly with
>> FTM's GEDCOM file generation algorithm.
>>
>>
>> Is there help?
>>
>> Leonard Middlebrooks
>>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Customizing Gedcom Import Fails

[Laura Johnson]

what about editing the gedcom in a text editor like wordpad, notepad,
etc BEFORE you import it to Legacy?

On 2/8/2012 12:49 PM, Ward Walker wrote:
> I am trying to import a GEDCOM created by MyHeritage and having trouble
> working around some issues with the GEDCOM. The Customize function of the
> import seems to fail to exclude items that I place in the 'Items not to be
> imported' box. Is this a known bug? I'm on the latest, deluxe version.
>
> Why I want to exclude items:
>
> (1) The uncustomized import produces an error log with _UID and RIN records
> listed as unrecognizable items for hundreds of events. If I choose to place
> unrecognized items in the Notes, then these 'junk' records are placed there.
> If I don't make that selection, then there is no apparent harm done to the
> resulting family file. At least this time, but what if there were some other
> items that I really did want to capture? It's all or nothing.
>
>
> (2) The MyHeritage export created Physical Description events (DSCR records
> in the GEDCOM) for Personal Info on the individual's profile page in
> MyHeritage -- i.e., not from real 'events/facts'. I want to exclude these
> records, because the data is not in a useful format. Raw html tags are in
> the data and appear in the resulting Legacy event. These DSCR records also
> produce 'unrecognized line' entries in the error log file, even though
> events get created. Similarly, the export created Residence events (RESI)
> for entries from the Contact information section of the individual's
> profile. I want to exclude these because (a) contact info is not a useful
> residence event (may just be an e-mail address); and (b) the Legacy import
> creates blank Residence events, ignoring any address info that is present in
> the GEDCOM for these RESI records. I am trying to verify that the builder of
> the MyHeritage tree did not create any explicit (real) residence events,
> which of course I would not want excluded.
>
> How I'm using the Customize function of the import:
>
> Upon clicking the customize button and bringing up the 'Items to Import'
> panel, there is nothing in the 'Unrecognized items' box. This seems strange,
> since the _UID and RIN items end up in the log file. I assume that these
> tags are recognized but are used inappropriately in this GEDCOM. Oh well, at
> least I can keep these out of the Notes fields for now.
>
> Next, I see that the box 'Import these items' has an incomplete list of the
> items that really are in the GEDCOM, so I cannot select DSCR and RESI to
> exclude. However, if I click the 'Basic>>' button to further shorten the
> list, and then click the 'All>>' button, I finally get a long list of items
> to choose from. Something seems wrong here, too, but now I have the list.
>
> Finally, I select DSCR and RESI, in turn, and click the 'Remove' button to
> place them in the 'Items not to be imported' box. All looks good and I
> proceed with the import. Unfortunately, the bad Physical Description and
> Residence events still get created!
>
> Shall I log these bugs? Or are they already logged? Or am I misunderstanding
> the whole process?
>
> Ward
>
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Where to install Legacy

[Laura Johnson]

mine doesn't.  It gives me a choice where to backup and what to backup.
I backup to an external drive that I disconnect when not in use


On 1/15/2012 7:25 AM, Ron Ferguson wrote:
> Although I don't use it myself, I always though that Mozy backs up to the
> cloud.
>
> Ron Ferguson
> http://www.fergys.co.uk/
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Laura Johnson
> Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2012 12:00 PM
> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Where to install Legacy
>
> Where does Mozy backup your files to - your harddrive or your ext
> drive?  If it was to your harddrive, you lost all of those files when
> you did the format on the drive before installing XP
>
> On 1/15/2012 1:05 AM, cr brassfield wrote:
>> Yes I know hard drive was wiped, which is why I thought I had
>> everything covered eg All files are saved on external hard drive and
>> (I thought) in Mozy.  Except last 3 days Legacy work, which I hadn't
>> backed up on ext drive. I backed up on Mozy a couple of hours before
>> doing install and thought I was ok (have been in the past when I
>> needed to restore odd Legacy files from Mozy before I had my external
>> hard drive).   So I am missing those last 3 days.
>> If you mean did I backup from Legacy then yes.. I also have big issue
>> with Mozy because they haven't saved any of my Legacy data. The
>> complete file is missing  and I'm wondering what else!
>>
>> Why did Richard's reinstall gave him all his data from file he was
>> working on when mine has no files? - just basic download. I had
>> inserted my deluxe customer number at start of Legacy install.
>>
>> /Carol /
>>
>>
>> 
>> Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Where to install Legacy
>> From: da...@schmeckabernathy.com
>> Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2012 20:23:56 -0800
>> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
>>
>> Since you a did clean install of Windows, then the hard drive was
>> wiped clean.
>> You did make a backup of all of your data files, right?
>> Sent from my Kindle Fire
>>
>> 
>> *From:* cr brassfield
>> *Sent:* Sat Jan 14 20:11:20 PST 2012
>> *To:* LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
>> *Subject:* RE: [LegacyUG] Where to install Legacy
>>
>> Richard
>> I had same problem as you yesterday so remembering I'd seen your
>> message I looked for that first so that I made sure I did right thing
>> when downloading Legacy deluxe again. Like you I always install in
>> recommended place but I wasn't so lucky when it opened it was a blank
>> file and there is absolutely nothing in the data.
>> Does anyone know what went wrong? I'm running XP rather than Vista.
>> Does that make any difference? I had just done 3 days of heavy data
>> input on my netbook and intended saving it today on my external hard
>> drive. I guess I've lost it all now..
>>
>> /Carol /
>>
>>
>>> From: rfvanwasshn...@gmail.com
>>> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
>>> Subject: [LegacyUG] Where to install Legacy
>>> Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2011 08:23:08 -0800
>>>
>>> Yesterday I did a clean install of win7, (upgrade failed) on my 2.5
>>> year old laptop. This meant re-installing all programs and "My
>>> Documents" all wiped clean. When I installed Legacy from their website
>>> it opened with my database and it was in deluxe mode already. My
>>> C:\Legacy\data and docs and pictures directories were all intact, all
>>> custom option correct.
>>> It pays to install Legacy in the suggested location.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Richard Van Wasshnova
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Where to install Legacy

[Laura Johnson]

Where does Mozy backup your files to - your harddrive or your ext
drive?  If it was to your harddrive, you lost all of those files when
you did the format on the drive before installing XP

On 1/15/2012 1:05 AM, cr brassfield wrote:
> Yes I know hard drive was wiped, which is why I thought I had
> everything covered eg All files are saved on external hard drive and
> (I thought) in Mozy.  Except last 3 days Legacy work, which I hadn't
> backed up on ext drive. I backed up on Mozy a couple of hours before
> doing install and thought I was ok (have been in the past when I
> needed to restore odd Legacy files from Mozy before I had my external
> hard drive).   So I am missing those last 3 days.
> If you mean did I backup from Legacy then yes.. I also have big issue
> with Mozy because they haven't saved any of my Legacy data. The
> complete file is missing  and I'm wondering what else!
>
> Why did Richard's reinstall gave him all his data from file he was
> working on when mine has no files? - just basic download. I had
> inserted my deluxe customer number at start of Legacy install.
>
> /Carol /
>
>
> 
> Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Where to install Legacy
> From: da...@schmeckabernathy.com
> Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2012 20:23:56 -0800
> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
>
> Since you a did clean install of Windows, then the hard drive was
> wiped clean.
> You did make a backup of all of your data files, right?
> Sent from my Kindle Fire
>
> 
> *From:* cr brassfield 
> *Sent:* Sat Jan 14 20:11:20 PST 2012
> *To:* LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> *Subject:* RE: [LegacyUG] Where to install Legacy
>
> Richard
> I had same problem as you yesterday so remembering I'd seen your
> message I looked for that first so that I made sure I did right thing
> when downloading Legacy deluxe again. Like you I always install in
> recommended place but I wasn't so lucky when it opened it was a blank
> file and there is absolutely nothing in the data.
> Does anyone know what went wrong? I'm running XP rather than Vista.
> Does that make any difference? I had just done 3 days of heavy data
> input on my netbook and intended saving it today on my external hard
> drive. I guess I've lost it all now..
>
> /Carol /
>
>
> > From: rfvanwasshn...@gmail.com
> > To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> > Subject: [LegacyUG] Where to install Legacy
> > Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2011 08:23:08 -0800
> >
> > Yesterday I did a clean install of win7, (upgrade failed) on my 2.5
> > year old laptop. This meant re-installing all programs and "My
> > Documents" all wiped clean. When I installed Legacy from their website
> > it opened with my database and it was in deluxe mode already. My
> > C:\Legacy\data and docs and pictures directories were all intact, all
> > custom option correct.
> > It pays to install Legacy in the suggested location.
> >
> > --
> > Richard Van Wasshnova
> >
> >
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Re: [LegacyUG] Forum Format

[Laura Johnson]

Websters dictionary states that a forum is an assembly or program where
ideas can be discussed. Mailing lists fall right into that definition
along with internet forums.

On 12/26/2011 7:56 AM, D Jones wrote:
> Mike
> I quote from the Millenia Legacy User Group Guidelines website:
> "The purpose of the LUG is to provide a forum for mutual help and the
> friendly exchange of ideas related to the use of Legacy Family Tree
> and its add-on programs"
> So although its in the format of a mailing list, I am am still
> wondering why, as opposed to a normal format forum.
>
> On 26/12/2011, Mike Fry  wrote:
>> On 2011/12/26 12:49, Dejoanz wrote:
>>> Is there a reason why the 'forum' is in the format of a mailing system as
>>> opposed to the normal type of forum that is used by the majority of family
>>> history software systems ?
>> Yes! It's a mailing list, not a forum.
>>
>> --
>> Regards,
>> Mike Fry
>> Johannesburg
>>
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Re: [LegacyUG] UNsetting a direct line as preferred

[Laura Johnson]

I have mine set on both sides as well but she wanted to unset hers.
Robert's solution takes care of the problem.

On 11/7/2011 8:31 PM, Wendy Howard wrote:
> Hi Laura,
>
>> The HELP file tells you how to set a direct line as preferred.  My
>> friend did this but now has decided she doesn't want any direct line set as 
>> preferred.  We cannot figure out how to undo this setting totally.
> I don't think you can remove the "preferred" line altogether - there has
> to be a preferred person in each family, a preferred set of parents, a
> preferred marriage, etc.  By default it's the first one entered in each
> instance (first child, first marriage...).
>
> I've not paid too much attention to the asterisk against the names of
> children for a long time now - I don't really have much use for it.
> That's not to say I won't have a use for it at some stage in the future.
>
> I find it more useful to set the direct line in bold.  I don't have any
> children, so to have both mine and my partner's direct lines in bold at
> the same time I've entered a "placeholder" child for us - and made it
> very clear that this child doesn't actually exist, in case I
> accidentally include him/her in a report that I send to someone else.
>
> I reset the relationships in my file frequently, as I add new people or
> switch from looking at my side to his side.  I would find it too
> confusing to just set it at this "theoretical child" and have to
> remember to drop down one generation for the correct relationship to me
> or my partner.  It's very quick to set relationships (other than waiting
> while the computer does the actual work!).
>
> Kind Regards,
> Wendy
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] UNsetting a direct line as preferred

[Laura Johnson]

thanks.  That will do the trick.

On 11/7/2011 8:29 PM, Robert Austen wrote:
> Hi Laura,
>
> If you select a person with no ancestors and then 'Set Direct Line As 
> Preferred' no one will show up. The setting highlights only ancestors of the 
> person selected.
>
> Bob Austen
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Laura Johnson [mailto:rngad...@madisontelco.com]
> Sent: Monday, November 07, 2011 4:53 PM
> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Subject: [LegacyUG] UNsetting a direct line as preferred
>
> The HELP file tells you how to set a direct line as preferred.  My
> friend did this but now has decided she doesn't want any direct line set as 
> preferred.  We cannot figure out how to undo this setting totally.
>
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] 2 entries or 2 DOB for one entry

[Laura Johnson]

I would use the alternate birth and alternate death in the events center
and source them with the same source showing where you found these
alternate data

On 11/1/2011 4:47 PM, Duncan family wrote:
>
> Hi
>
> Recent research has revealed that a line of ancestors may not be as
> previously thought.
>
> 1.Scotland:-  a John Ferguson Duncan was born on 6 July 1828 in
> Campbeltown, Scotland, the second child of Dunlop and Jean/ Jenn
> Duncan, and christened on 7 July 1828 in Campbeltown,   Scottish
> census records show Dunlop Duncan to be a Painter.
>
> John Ferguson Duncan does not appear on Census data after 1841.  I
> have found no other records (including emigration / shipping) after 1841.
>
> 2.Sydney, Australia:- a John Ferguson Duncan (according to newspaper
> articles) died in 1873, aged 39, which puts his birth around 1834.
> John Ferguson Duncan’s death certificate lists his father (Dunlop
> Duncan) as a Brewer.
>
> I am a new user of Legacy (v 7.5) and have inherited Legacy data from
> my mother.
>
> My question is:  Should I create 2 separate John Ferguson and Dunlop
> Duncan’s entries or one entry for each and make notes on discrepancies.
>
> Regards
>
> Stuart
>
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Four-color filing system (Mary A.V. Hill, earlier & current versions) was: Considering Switching from FTM to Legacy 7.5 Deluxe-Old file a mess

[Laura Johnson]

Basics is exactly what you get.  It still doesn't answer my question.
Thanks anyway.

On 10/31/2011 9:04 AM, Sherry/Support wrote:
> Sorry to hear that. I have a friend who's deaf and can't view the
> webinars either. Unfortunately, there's no closed caption option for
> us to use.
>
> Check out http://123genealogy.com/organizer/lessons/morehelps.htm.
> The first links takes you to basics, the next two take you to either
> using the system with file folders or notebooks.
>
>
>
> Sincerely,
> Sherry
> Technical Support
> Legacy Family Tree
>
>
>
> On Mon, Oct 31, 2011 at 2:58 AM, Laura Johnson
>   wrote:
>> If only it was that simple.  Being hearing impaired, I cannot watch
>> them.  I tried watching a couple of the webinars that Geoff did a while
>> back and it was impossible for me to follow through not knowing what he
>> was actually saying.
>>
>> On 10/30/2011 9:32 PM, Sherry/Support wrote:
>>> Go see the webinar - I'm sure she'll answer all these questions.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Sincerely,
>>> Sherry
>>> Technical Support
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Re: [LegacyUG] Four-color filing system (Mary A.V. Hill, earlier & current versions) was: Considering Switching from FTM to Legacy 7.5 Deluxe-Old file a mess

[Laura Johnson]

If only it was that simple.  Being hearing impaired, I cannot watch
them.  I tried watching a couple of the webinars that Geoff did a while
back and it was impossible for me to follow through not knowing what he
was actually saying.

On 10/30/2011 9:32 PM, Sherry/Support wrote:
> Go see the webinar - I'm sure she'll answer all these questions.
>
>
>
> Sincerely,
> Sherry
> Technical Support
> Legacy Family Tree
>
>
>
> On Sun, Oct 30, 2011 at 6:00 PM, Laura Johnson
>   wrote:
>> IF you are using this system, HOW do you handle a person who is in more
>> than one line such as person who is blood related on both the paternal
>> grandfather (blue) and the maternal grandmother sides (yellow)?  This
>> happens a lot in my trees because of the intermarriages between families
>>
>> On 10/30/2011 7:31 PM, Robert E. Carneal wrote:
>>> *Let's see if this helps: Standardly, the colors are:
>>> BLUE - Paternal Grandfather
>>> GREEN - Paternal Grandmother
>>> RED - Maternal Grandfather
>>> Yellow - Maternal Grandfather
>>>
>>> All right, let's say the question is: What color is your maternal
>>> grandfather's mother's sister's daughter?  Red, because she is in her
>>> Maternal Grandfather's family.
>>>
>>> I hope that helps, I don't know if it does.
>>>
>>> **Thank you.
>>>
>>> */*/Robert/*/
>>> */Genealogy without documentation is mythology! Always _SOURCE_ your
>>> work./*
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Oct 30, 2011 at 6:25 PM, Jennifer Crockett
>>> mailto:jcrock...@optusnet.com.au>>  wrote:
>>>
>>>  I considered this system, but can't see how it could incorporate
>>>  ancestors' sibling lines or lines that marry in to my main lines.
>>>  Or even unrelated lines I sometimes pursue, usually for second
>>>  cousins.
>>>
>>>  Regards,
>>>
>>>  Jennifer
>>>  http://colston-wenck.com
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Re: [LegacyUG] Four-color filing system (Mary A.V. Hill, earlier & current versions) was: Considering Switching from FTM to Legacy 7.5 Deluxe-Old file a mess

[Laura Johnson]

IF you are using this system, HOW do you handle a person who is in more
than one line such as person who is blood related on both the paternal
grandfather (blue) and the maternal grandmother sides (yellow)?  This
happens a lot in my trees because of the intermarriages between families

On 10/30/2011 7:31 PM, Robert E. Carneal wrote:
> *Let's see if this helps: Standardly, the colors are:
> BLUE - Paternal Grandfather
> GREEN - Paternal Grandmother
> RED - Maternal Grandfather
> Yellow - Maternal Grandfather
>
> All right, let's say the question is: What color is your maternal
> grandfather's mother's sister's daughter?  Red, because she is in her
> Maternal Grandfather's family.
>
> I hope that helps, I don't know if it does.
>
> **Thank you.
>
> */*/Robert/*/
> */Genealogy without documentation is mythology! Always _SOURCE_ your
> work./*
>
>
> On Sun, Oct 30, 2011 at 6:25 PM, Jennifer Crockett
> mailto:jcrock...@optusnet.com.au>> wrote:
>
> I considered this system, but can't see how it could incorporate
> ancestors' sibling lines or lines that marry in to my main lines.
> Or even unrelated lines I sometimes pursue, usually for second
> cousins.
>
> Regards,
>
> Jennifer
> http://colston-wenck.com
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Sherry/Support [mailto:she...@legacyfamilytree.com
> ]
> Sent: Monday, 31 October 2011 10:15 AM
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com
> 
> Cc: dee.zieg...@gmail.com 
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Four-color filing system (Mary A.V. Hill,
> earlier & current versions) was: Considering Switching from FTM to
> Legacy 7.5 Deluxe-Old file a mess
>
> Mary's going to be discussing her system in a webinar on Friday, Nov
> 4.  The title is "FamilyRoots Organizer System"
>
> I really like her system too because it doesn't depend on RINs or
> MRINs, which can get changed.
>
> To sign up, head on over to our website at
> http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/Webinars.asp
>
>
> Sincerely,
> Sherry
> Technical Support
> Legacy Family Tree
>
>
>
> On Sun, Oct 30, 2011 at 11:29 AM, Dee Ziegler
> mailto:dee.zieg...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> > Earlier, Paula posted a good tip:
> >
> >> I just recently went through a reorganization effort on my
> data...electronic and hardcopy.  I recommend taking a look in the
> archives ... for information on the 4-color system (the name
> escapes me!).  It's basically by family group, and I have come to
> LOVE it!  I just makes  perfect sense to me.
> >
> > I think this is the time-tested organizing programs by Mary E. V.
> > Hill. (A Legacy user!)
> >
> > Two versions, I prefer the older version which is much simpler
> (being
> > phased out, though, so download the PDF now if you're interested.)
> > Really takes you step-by-step. Maybe I prefer it because I'm an
> older
> > version, too?
> >
> >
> 
> http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/RG/frameset_rg.asp?Dest=G1&Aid=&Gid=&Lid=&Sid=&Did=&Juris1=&Event=&Year=&Gloss=&Sub=&Tab=&Entry=&Guide=ALL_REF_DOC_-_Organizing_Paper_Files.ASP
> 
> 
> >
> > the new version:
> >
> > https://wiki.familysearch.org/en/Organizing_Your_Files
> >
> > Hope this is useful. Cheers, Dee in Maryland
>
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] I know there must be an easy way to do this

[Laura Johnson]

why not tag just the people you want included and then export them to a
new file.  then you will have exactly what you need for the BCG.  This
is what I did.

On 9/12/2011 11:56 AM, cranberryf...@cobridge.tv wrote:
> I want to print out a three generation descendant report that only
> includes the direct line ancestor for the 2nd and 3rd generations.  I
> am working on my Compiled Genealogy for the Board of Certified
> Genealogists.  I cannot use the Legacy generated report.  The report
> has to be just so and I will not be able to manipulate Legacy to print
> out exactly in the right format.  I will be hand typing it in Word.
> HOWEVER, I CAN use the Legacy report as an outline for me to follow.
> The problem is, I can’t seem to figure out how to make it do a 3
> generation descendant report that only carries the direct line
> descendant to the next generation.  I do not want to follow all of the
> descendant lines.
> michele
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Re: [LegacyUG] Invisible Embedded Dates ??

[Laura Johnson]

could these be the date that the person was last modified?  Look at the
very bottom of the Legacy window to the right corner and see if you date
corresponds with that date.  If you hover your mouse over the date, it
will ask you to click to see the modification dates.

On 9/10/2011 12:27 PM, Jerry wrote:
> Hello everyone.  Has anyone on the list ever seen where Legacy would
> embed invisible dates that show up when you do a SEARCH and REPLACE, but
> when you go to the record, the dates are simply not there.  I'm sure it
> has something to do with the gedcom import I got from my cousin to
> combine with our master tree.  I thought maybe it was the date modified
> or date imported, but that is not it.
>
> What I'm doing is to put in the search function to SEARCH and REPLACE
> (without actually doing the replace) for EVENT-DATES where the date
> contains 2010 anywhere in the field.  I get quite a large number of hits
> such as 8 September 2010, but none of the records has those dates in the
> record anywhere I can physically see.  Weird thing I would like to get
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[LegacyUG] Census Data - Spreadsheet formats

[Laura Johnson]

Not sure if this is exactly what you are looking for but might be worth
checking into.  My friend uses it and says it works great.
http://genscriber.com/

On 9/10/2011 10:31 AM, Chris CG wrote:
> I have found it very helpful to transcribe census information into
> spreadsheet format.  I use a variation of the CensusTools spreadsheet
> templates that Gary Minder used to offer for free.  Maybe someone can
> suggest a source for similar forms to standardize and record census
> data.
>
> Chris
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Possible new buyer

[Laura Johnson]

why not try the free version first and see how it works, etc.
http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/

On 9/5/2011 10:28 AM, Robert Sutton wrote:
> Hi group,
> I am considering buying Legacy, and I have a few questions.
> 1.  I am presently using Ancestral Quest 12.1.30 and am wodering if I
> can import my entire file to Legacy?
> 2.  Is there a note section in Legacy.  All my information is stored
> in Notes in Ancestral Quest.
> 3.  Is there an undo option in notes?
> Thanks in advance.
> Bob Sutton
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] GEDCOM Issue

[Laura Johnson]

There are people working on a solution to this problem.  Check out the
following

URL :http://bettergedcom.wikispaces.com/
TITLE : BetterGedcom - Build a Better GEDCOM Project
DESCRIPTION : The organizers of BetterGEDCOM are members of the genealogy user 
community not affiliated with any particular genealogical organization and not 
advocating for any particular constituency except the end-users. The goal is to 
define a standard that is meant to replace the current GEDCOM standard for both 
the communication of and the long term storage of genealogical information.



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> As I have mentioned before, I think Millennia could be proactive in
> implementing a workaround to this problem. I wonder if any competitors are
> doing this?


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[LegacyUG] Better Gedcom Project

[Laura Johnson]

slightly off topic but I am sure it would be of interest to those who use the 
source writer for your sources.  Maybe some of the people on this list who do 
programming might be able to help in this project to advance the standard 
gedcom.

URL :http://bettergedcom.wikispaces.com/
TITLE : BetterGedcom - Build a Better GEDCOM Project
DESCRIPTION : The organizers of BetterGEDCOM are members of the genealogy user 
community not affiliated with any particular genealogical organization and not 
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Re: [LegacyUG] Events Listing Confusion

[Laura Johnson]

death documents usually tell you that if a person has been married or not

On 8/12/2011 6:27 PM, mbstx wrote:
> However, how do you "source" a negative, that is a non-event?  I handle 
> "didn't marry" and "had no children" with an explanation in the General Notes 
> as to why I think that is so.  Marianne
>
> -Original Message-
>> From: Jim Terry/Support
>> Sent: Aug 12, 2011 4:25 PM
>> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
>> Subject: re: [LegacyUG] Events Listing Confusion
>>
>> Jerry,
>>
>> If I recall correctly we added "Had No Children" and "Did Not Marry" to the
>> list of possible events that users could an a source to because  some of
>> our users wanted it. They pointed out there was a need to document the fact
>> that a couple did not ever marry or that they did not ever have children.
>>
>> Jim Terry
>> Legacy Family Tree
>> Technical Support
>>
>>
>>  Original Message 
>>> From: "Jerry"
>>> Sent: Friday, August 12, 2011 1:45 PM
>>> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
>>> Subject: [LegacyUG] Events Listing Confusion
>>>
>>> I think this subject came up once before, but I still don't understand
>>> the rationale behind having a list of events which states "Had No
>>> Children"  - "Did Not Marry", etc., when, in fact, they were married and
>>> did have children.   I realize this is just a list of possible events,
>>> but doesn't it seem like a bit of strange programming logic?Anyone
>>> else with me and know to what I am referring? Open up the source
>>> listing and you will find the list there.  Thanks,  --Jerry in Michigan
>>> / http://www.MerriamFamilyTree.org
>>>
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Re: [LegacyUG] New Update

[Laura Johnson]

I have problems with my eyesight as well.  I have work tri-focals for
over 35 years now.  I agree that there is a need for those who have
problems but to make them jump that far and require a complete
repositioning of the mouse in order to click on them makes it actually
more difficult and definitely more time consuming.  I work within my
Legacy file for at least 3 -4 hours per day and work a full time job.  I
can't afford to lose time over icons that move out of they way whenever
you try to access them.  If there is such a great need for the jumping
icons, them it maybe should be an option for those that want them.  I
definitely don't.

On 7/20/2011 7:23 PM, Ron Ferguson wrote:
> Laura,
>
> I might agree that the movement was a bit too much, but it does seem as
> though the principle was favoured by a majority of the users who commented.
>
> These days accessibilty for people who have disabilities, including eyesight
> problems (and I have had some of these myself) is most important and some
> minor inconvenience of non-impaired users should be accepted.
>
> Ron Ferguson
> http://www.fergys.co.uk/
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Laura Johnson
> Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 11:41 PM
> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] New Update
>
> I would love to see them highlight but I am glad they do not  "dance"
> anymore.  In my case they didn't dance at all.  When I put the mouse on
> them, they physically 'jumped' about 3/8" away and I had to move the
> mouse over to them to be able to click on them.  It was a wasted couple
> of seconds.  When you are entering 50 or 60 documents every day and
> sourcing and making notes, etc, it was a creating an extra step to
> access the icon.
>
> On 7/20/2011 10:55 AM, Ron Ferguson wrote:
>> Bob,
>>
>> You do not say which version you are using, nor which Icons you were
>> looking
>> at?
>>
>> Ron Ferguson
>> http://www.fergys.co.uk/
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Bob Vary
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 4:25 PM
>> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
>> Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] New Update
>>
>> Strange, but the icons never "danced" for me.  Could there be a Windows
>> setting that suppresses such movement?  I turn off all Windows sounds and
>> most special effects.  And I agree that the programmers jumped the gun in
>> turning off something that most seem to like before looking at
>> alternatives.
>>
>> Bob
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Ron Bernier [mailto:ronaldbern...@bernfrin.net]
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 5:20 AM
>> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
>> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] New Update
>>
>> It's seems that there were more people who liked the "dancing" icons
>> than those who didn't.  Unfortunately, the programmers are quick to
>> satisfy those who complain about a change rather than wait a bit to
>> get a consensus of how the majority feel about the change.
>>
>> Ron Bernier
>> Woonsocket, RI
>>
>>
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Re: [LegacyUG] New Update

[Laura Johnson]

I would love to see them highlight but I am glad they do not  "dance"
anymore.  In my case they didn't dance at all.  When I put the mouse on
them, they physically 'jumped' about 3/8" away and I had to move the
mouse over to them to be able to click on them.  It was a wasted couple
of seconds.  When you are entering 50 or 60 documents every day and
sourcing and making notes, etc, it was a creating an extra step to
access the icon.

On 7/20/2011 10:55 AM, Ron Ferguson wrote:
> Bob,
>
> You do not say which version you are using, nor which Icons you were looking
> at?
>
> Ron Ferguson
> http://www.fergys.co.uk/
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Bob Vary
> Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 4:25 PM
> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] New Update
>
> Strange, but the icons never "danced" for me.  Could there be a Windows
> setting that suppresses such movement?  I turn off all Windows sounds and
> most special effects.  And I agree that the programmers jumped the gun in
> turning off something that most seem to like before looking at alternatives.
>
> Bob
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Ron Bernier [mailto:ronaldbern...@bernfrin.net]
> Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 5:20 AM
> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] New Update
>
> It's seems that there were more people who liked the "dancing" icons
> than those who didn't.  Unfortunately, the programmers are quick to
> satisfy those who complain about a change rather than wait a bit to
> get a consensus of how the majority feel about the change.
>
> Ron Bernier
> Woonsocket, RI
>
>
>
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Error 3022

[Laura Johnson]

yes, we tried the solution but it did not solve the problem that her
RINs are not appearing

On 5/10/2011 9:11 PM, Sherry/Support wrote:
> The solution to this error number is found on our website at
> www.LegacyFamilyTree.com>  Help Center>  Technical Support>  Solutions
> by Error Number.
>
> Or you can click on the "Online Troubleshooting Help" link in the
> Support section of the Legacy Home tab in Legacy.
>
>
>
> Sincerely,
> Sherry
> Technical Support
> Legacy Family Tree
>
>
>
> On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 4:52 PM, Laura Johnson
>   wrote:
>> A friend of mine in Italy is having problems with her Legacy file.  Her RIN 
>> numbers are not appearing although it is checked in Customize for the RINs 
>> to show.  When she tries to do an update of her file (she is at 7.4.0.4.5), 
>> she receives the following error:
>>
>> Error rebuilding Marriage Deleted list.
>> Error 3022: The modification is not successful is because we tried to 
>> duplicate the values ​​in the index, primary key or 
>> relationship. Change the data in the field or fields that contain duplicate 
>> data, remove the index or redefine the index to allow the insertion of 
>> duplicate entries, and then retry the operation.
>>   Would you like to TRY IT AGAIN?
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[LegacyUG] Error 3022

[Laura Johnson]

A friend of mine in Italy is having problems with her Legacy file.  Her RIN 
numbers are not appearing although it is checked in Customize for the RINs to 
show.  When she tries to do an update of her file (she is at 7.4.0.4.5), she 
receives the following error:

Error rebuilding Marriage Deleted list.
Error 3022: The modification is not successful is because we tried to duplicate 
the values ​​in the index, primary key or relationship. Change the data in 
the field or fields that contain duplicate data, remove the index or redefine 
the index to allow the insertion of duplicate entries, and then retry the 
operation.
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Re: [LegacyUG] restore from merge backup

[Laura Johnson]

This screen comes up after click CLOSE to close the Merge window.  The
next window that pops up is called MERGE COMPLETE.  At the bottom of
that window is a box to check to show this window at the end of every
merge.  Possibly you have unchecked this sometime in the past and that
is why you are not seeing the window now.  Maybe support can tell you
how to undo that setting
For example, I just merged one of my people in my file and the window
states:

"The merge process is complete.  You should examine your Family File to
make sure the Merge was successful and complete.
Note:
You can Undo all the merge changes by choosing
'Undo Merge of (4/16/2011 11:25:54 AM)' from the Edit menu."


On 4/16/2011 7:49 AM, Gene Young wrote:
> On 4/15/2011 11:52 PM, Brian/Support wrote:
>> I guess you did not pay attention to the screen that the merge process
>> pops up when you stop it. It is that screen that tells you how to undo
>> the merge by going to Edit>   Undo Merge... That Undo option only exists
>> during the session where you started the merge. It will not be there
>> once you close Legacy since the temporary backup is deleted, as the
>> Help[ file says.
>>
>> I will however submit a problem report suggesting that the Help File
>> also include instructions on going to the Edit Menu.
>>
>> Brian
>> Customer Support
>> Millennia Corporation
>> br...@legacyfamilytree.com
>> http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com
> I pay close attention to everything I do in my family file.  Everything!
> It gave me no such instruction.  I had to google to find the reference
> to Edit>  Undo Merge. My only complaint is the total lack of
> documentation where it should be.
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Re: [LegacyUG] ~ Symbol on Name Index

[Laura Johnson]

that it is an alternate name

On 1/23/2011 6:22 PM, cgs1...@aol.com wrote:
> What does the "~" Symbol on Name Index signify?
>
> Thanks
>
>
> Chuck
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Re: [LegacyUG] It's official - Legacy 7.5 is now available

[Laura Johnson]

that may be what they are telling you is happening but it is NOT what is
actually happening.  They are NOT being transcribed twice and no one
appears to be arbitrating any differences.  They are not using people
who KNOW the handwriting and the language to transcribe and arbitrate,
so they are so full of mistakes.  When it became available, I started
checking records against those that a group of us had already
transcribed and OVER 90% were incorrectly transcribed.  I was told that
they would eventually correct the problems and that I could submit
corrections BUT ONLY ONE DOCUMENT PER EMAIL.  Well when you have 50
entries per page and NOT ONE was totally correct, it would take too long
to send in all of the corrections necessary to correct just the first
page of entries.  Instead they kept trying to get me to transcribe for them

On 1/18/2011 5:11 PM, Eliz Hanebury wrote:
> They do each record twice and then it goes to an arbitrator. I have
> family where the year changed by 3 seemingly at random.
>
> Eliz
>
> On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 6:01 PM, Jennifer Crockett
>   wrote:
>> Well it doesn't give me much faith that any of the records can be taken at 
>> face value. Instead of a mad rush to index everything, surely cross 
>> checking, or having at least one other person verify correct recording 
>> should have taken place. If the image was available it wouldn't matter so 
>> much.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Jennifer
>> http://colston-wenck.com
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Eliz Hanebury [mailto:elizhg...@gmail.com]
>> Sent: Wednesday, 19 January 2011 9:47 AM
>> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com
>> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] It's official - Legacy 7.5 is now available
>>
>> I have to say, the errors are often of the people giving and taking
>> down information. There is currently no way to correct errors, they
>> [Support at familysearch] say some day there will be, but they are
>> concentrating on making a site that will work.
>>
>>
>> Eliz
>>
>> On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 5:44 PM, Jennifer Crockett
>>   wrote:
>>> I am not LDS. I have accessed one of the new collections recently and found 
>>> errors. What can one do about this? See below. The bride's date of birth 
>>> should be 6 July 1837 not 6 Dec 1837. The place of marriage was not Karby, 
>>> but Redsted. I know this from the online Danish Archives which show 
>>> original images. I verified the correct details with the image of the 
>>> marriage record and the death record for Else Anderson.
>>>
>>> Denmark Marriages, 1635-1916
>>>
>>> Groom's Name: Peter Villadsen
>>> Groom's Age: 24
>>> Bride's Name: Else Andersen
>>> Bride's Birth Date: 06 Dec 1837
>>> Bride's Age: 29
>>> Marriage Date: 12 Oct 1866
>>> Marriage Place: Karby, Thisted, Denmark
>>>
>>> Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M01212-8
>>> System Origin: Denmark-EASy
>>> Source Film Number: 410117
>>> Reference Number: 5-185-6
>>>
>>> There was no image associated with this LDS record. I just want to warn 
>>> people that not all these types of records are error free.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Jennifer
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Re: [LegacyUG] Unlinking & re-linking parent

[Laura Johnson]

Unlink from both, then relink to the correct set of parents

On 1/1/2011 6:53 PM, Jane Sarles wrote:
> My ancestor had 2 wives.  I have the children linked to wife B, when
> they should be linked to wife A.  I tried unlinking, but it requires
> me to unlink from both parents.  Is there a better way?
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Re: [LegacyUG] sources

[Laura Johnson]

several hundred would be a breeze compared to mine - I have more than
25,000 sources under 12 master sources that would need to be converted
to SW.  So until there is some kind of easy conversion tool, I will have
to continue using the basic sources so that all remain uniform as they
are now

On 12/27/2010 6:06 PM, Gene Adams wrote:
> Which brings up the next question of going from basic style to SW
> style.  How do you transfer the information from an individual with
> basic sources to that of the SW style without having to go through
> each individual record one line at a time?  It is not hard when you
> have less then a dozen individuals with basic sources and can print
> off the details.  It gets to be a nightmare when you have several
> hundred, and each detail on the source is different.
> Gene Adams
>
> 
> *From:* Brian/Support 
> *To:* LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> *Sent:* Mon, December 27, 2010 2:16:57 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] sources
>
> If you imported the data from a GEDCOM all the sources were created as
> Basic style sources, even if the data was originally from Legacy as SW
> style sources. The GEDCOM format for sources does not support the
> detailed source fields needed by the SW system. If the data was
> originally from Legacy you would have to import from the Legacy File in
> order to preserve the SW sources.
>
> To see the Master Sources and edit them go to View > Master Lists >
> Sources.
>
> NOTE: You cannot convert a Basic Style source to SW style by the edit
> process. You will have to create a New SW Style source for each Basic
> Style Source in the Master Source List. There is an Add button on the
> Source List screen that will let you create those new sources in SW style.
>
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> On 24/11/2010 9:33 AM, Cheryl Rothwell wrote:
> > When I imported did it import to basic? If it asked me when I imported
> > - and I think it did - I told it Source Writer. There are extraneous
> > words [like "location" in the final output]. I can go through and work
> > on them but I need to find the list of sources and open each one
> > individually. I don't see how to do that.
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Re: [LegacyUG] Italicized Child's name

[Laura Johnson]

thanks.  that was the problem.  I didn't even notice it when I edited
the child's view

On 12/11/2010 5:24 PM, Dennis M. Kowallek wrote:
> On Sat, 11 Dec 2010 17:18:54 -0600, Laura Johnson
>   wrote:
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>> When I look at the children below the parents names, one of the
>> children's names is italicized.  The others appear normally
> Check the child's gender. It sounds like it is set to "unknown".
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[LegacyUG] Italicized Child's name

[Laura Johnson]

I just found something unusual and so far I have only found it on one
family only.  I don't know what I did for this to happen or what it is
supposed to mean.  I can't find a solution in Help

When I look at the children below the parents names, one of the
children's names is italicized.  The others appear normally



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Re: [LegacyUG] Question

[Laura Johnson]

I am using it similar but in different context.  I am transcribing and
entering all of the documents from one town in Sicily and there are
numerous surnames that have unrelated lines without any problems at all.

On 11/21/2010 10:24 AM, Tom Hobbs wrote:
> Is there anyone using Legacy 7.x for Surname Research Compilations?
>
> This would involve multiple unrelated lines with the same surname.
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> Suggestions? Just give up?
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> Thanks all - appreciate the advice.
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Re: [LegacyUG] how big?

[Laura Johnson]

  don't stop now.  I am just shy of 50,000 at this point and I have a
long way to go to finish entering all of the documents from one town in
Sicily.  I couldn't get my file to function properly in FTM 2008, 2009,
or 2010 and I have fully switched to Legacy 6, then 7 without any
problems at all.

On 10/17/2010 11:26 AM, Carol Costa wrote:
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> I have about 20,000 in my file.  I’m getting worried about that too.
> I just can’t seem to stop adding people.  Help me…….
>
> *From:* Jonathan & Charity Cordell [mailto:jccord...@att.net]
> *Sent:* Saturday, October 16, 2010 10:30 PM
> *To:* LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> *Subject:* [LegacyUG] how big?
>
> Hi everyone, I'm new to this and needed some rookie advice. I
> originally started lumping all the family lines into one Legacy file
> and just skipping all around the place. Then I ended up splitting them
> up and naming the Legacy file based on the line (i.e. cordell.fdb). I
> did it to make things easier but I this might be a mistake. How does
> average Legacy user do it? Do they keep several lines in one file? My
> last name is Cordell so it was also weird to name the file cordell.fdb
> when I'm going to be going beyond Cordell. What's the norm? Thanks.
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Re: [LegacyUG] LTools - Fixing Source Details

[Laura Johnson]

Thanks Dennis.  I know it is going to be a lot of work no matter which
way I go.

Dennis M. Kowallek wrote:
> On Tue, 10 Aug 2010 17:49:19 -0500, Laura Johnson
>  wrote:
>
>
>> When I entered the "Source Details", I entered them as follows:
>> "Film #2014483, Document #57" or "Film #1688171, Document #446"
>> This is fine EXCEPT that most of the films contain documents from many
>> years (Film #2014483 contains the years of 1885 thru 1910) so there will
>> be 25 marriage sources that contain the same source details but they are
>> NOT the same document but because they are documents from different years.
>>
>> What I would like to know is if there is a way search and find all
>> individuals who have Film #2014483 in their source details and be able
>> to edit it to include the year in the source details so that it would
>> read for example:   Film #2014483, Year 1890, Document #19.
>>
>
> I think in V7 you can search for a Source Citation which contains
> "2014483" ... then tag all the individuals in the search list. You can
> then cycle thru all the tagged individuals looking for the specific
> citation that contains "2014483" and make the necessary change,
> untagging the individual when you have finished.
>
> >From the way you describe the problem, I'm afraid there is no way to
> avoid a lot of manual work.
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[LegacyUG] LTools - Fixing Source Details

[Laura Johnson]

I am not sure exactly how to ask this question so I am going to give as
much info as possible.

I have been researching one town in Sicily for about 35+ years.  I have
been transcribing all of the LDS filmed documents for that town for over
12 years now and have been slowly entering them into Legacy.  I
originally started this file in FTM in 2001 and have entered over 25,000
documents so far.  When FTM 2008 could not handle the file and was too
slow to use, I started experimenting with Legacy and by the time FTM
2009 came out and it wasn't any easier to use and still had the same
problems with the file, I switched entirely to Legacy.

When I started out, I setup exactly how I wanted the Master sources in
the Basic source writer and have stuck to those as those are the only
types of documents available for the time period of the documents.  So
for example, my Master Source is called:  01 - Nascite - LDS Filmed
Document and I setup the detail regarding type of source, repository,
etc the way I wanted it to read.

When I entered the "Source Details", I entered them as follows:
"Film #2014483, Document #57" or "Film #1688171, Document #446"
This is fine EXCEPT that most of the films contain documents from many
years (Film #2014483 contains the years of 1885 thru 1910) so there will
be 25 marriage sources that contain the same source details but they are
NOT the same document but because they are documents from different years.

What I would like to know is if there is a way search and find all
individuals who have Film #2014483 in their source details and be able
to edit it to include the year in the source details so that it would
read for example:   Film #2014483, Year 1890, Document #19.

Can I do this from within Legacy itself or would it be easier in
LTools?  I have the free download but am willing to go to the deluxe
version if it can facilitate this much faster?  I have not really
experimented with LTools yet as I really didn't need any of the options
that were available in the free download on the file.

I am open to all suggestions on how to proceed.



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[LegacyUG] Column Width on Assigned Sources window

[Laura Johnson]

Will try this again since it appears no one responded to it the first time.

Is there a way to save the width settings on the columns once you resize
them in the assigned source window?  I have to continuously widen them
every time I open the source window so that I can see the source detail
or I have to click edit to see it.  I couldn't find anything in Help
about it.  I would like to be able to see them stay the same way so that
I don't have to resize it every time I open the source window




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[LegacyUG] Column Width on Assigned Sources window

[Laura Johnson]

Is there a way to save the width settings on the columns once you resize
them in the assigned source window?  I have to continuously widen them
every time I open the source window so that I can see the source detail
or I have to click edit to see it.  I couldn't find anything in Help
about it.  I would like to be able to see them stay the same way so that
I don't have to resize it every time I open the source window

Laura Johnson wrote:
> Missouri also has the independent City of  ST. LOUIS.  It doesn't reside
> in any county
>
> Brian L. Lightfoot wrote:
>
>> And just to take this thread on a little side trip.to my knowledge all 
>> states in the US have townships except for California and Louisiana. In 
>> California you either live in a city or in the county; there are no 
>> townships. In Louisiana, the word county is replaced by "Parish" which 
>> basically is the same thing. It's a French thing.
>>
>> There are other areas of the US that Legacy has a problem with, notably 
>> Washington, DC. Hmmm, no county and no state at all. Should it be entered as 
>> DC or "District of Columbia" but then aren't we getting back into that nasty 
>> preposition thing in a location?
>>
>> And now for the Coup de grâceVirginia has something unique called 
>> "Independent Cities" such as Richmond, Virginia. The city is a subdivision 
>> of the state just like the other counties. The independent city does not 
>> reside in any county at all. So how does one enter that location: "Richmond, 
>> Virginia" is factually correct but Legacy expects some type of county there 
>> or a comma for a missing county will give you the absurd "Richmond, , 
>> Virginia". There are 42 such independent cities in the US; 39 of them are 
>> located in Virginia.
>>
>>
>> Brian in CA
>>
>>
>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: ci...@treadles.ca [mailto:ci...@treadles.ca]
>>> Sent: Sunday, August 01, 2010 1:32 PM
>>> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
>>> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy and County Names
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> I can see you having to add an awful lot of U.S.A.s should ever wish
>>>>
>>>>
>>> to
>>>
>>>
>>>> publish, Brian!! :-)
>>>>
>>>>
>>> I've done the same thing as Brian, except for Canada. Any other
>>> country
>>> has the country name after the town, township, county, etc. and when/if
>>> I publish, I intend to add a note to the Preface saying that all
>>> locations are in Canada unless otherwise stated.
>>>
>>> I've added the full word "township" and County" after each location.
>>> Makes for a bit more typing occasionally but sure looks much clearer.
>>> I'm not familiar with US townships, if they exist, or counties and when
>>> I see Notown, Mud, MA for example, it takes a bit of figuring out that
>>> MA is Massachusetts, Mud is probably the county, and Notown the actual
>>> location. But what about the township?
>>>
>>> I've heard that some states have a completely different surveying
>>> method
>>> and it sure looks confusing to someone not familiar with the system.
>>> But
>>> if it's spelled out - Notown, Mud County, Massachusetts, USA, then it
>>> couldn't be clearer.
>>>
>>> Helen
>>>
>>>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy and County Names

[Laura Johnson]

Missouri also has the independent City of  ST. LOUIS.  It doesn't reside
in any county

Brian L. Lightfoot wrote:
> And just to take this thread on a little side trip.to my knowledge all 
> states in the US have townships except for California and Louisiana. In 
> California you either live in a city or in the county; there are no 
> townships. In Louisiana, the word county is replaced by "Parish" which 
> basically is the same thing. It's a French thing.
>
> There are other areas of the US that Legacy has a problem with, notably 
> Washington, DC. Hmmm, no county and no state at all. Should it be entered as 
> DC or "District of Columbia" but then aren't we getting back into that nasty 
> preposition thing in a location?
>
> And now for the Coup de grâceVirginia has something unique called 
> "Independent Cities" such as Richmond, Virginia. The city is a subdivision of 
> the state just like the other counties. The independent city does not reside 
> in any county at all. So how does one enter that location: "Richmond, 
> Virginia" is factually correct but Legacy expects some type of county there 
> or a comma for a missing county will give you the absurd "Richmond, , 
> Virginia". There are 42 such independent cities in the US; 39 of them are 
> located in Virginia.
>
>
> Brian in CA
>
>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: ci...@treadles.ca [mailto:ci...@treadles.ca]
>> Sent: Sunday, August 01, 2010 1:32 PM
>> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
>> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy and County Names
>>
>>
>>> I can see you having to add an awful lot of U.S.A.s should ever wish
>>>
>> to
>>
>>> publish, Brian!! :-)
>>>
>>  I've done the same thing as Brian, except for Canada. Any other
>> country
>> has the country name after the town, township, county, etc. and when/if
>> I publish, I intend to add a note to the Preface saying that all
>> locations are in Canada unless otherwise stated.
>>
>> I've added the full word "township" and County" after each location.
>> Makes for a bit more typing occasionally but sure looks much clearer.
>> I'm not familiar with US townships, if they exist, or counties and when
>> I see Notown, Mud, MA for example, it takes a bit of figuring out that
>> MA is Massachusetts, Mud is probably the county, and Notown the actual
>> location. But what about the township?
>>
>> I've heard that some states have a completely different surveying
>> method
>> and it sure looks confusing to someone not familiar with the system.
>> But
>> if it's spelled out - Notown, Mud County, Massachusetts, USA, then it
>> couldn't be clearer.
>>
>> Helen
>>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Entering siblings

[Laura Johnson]

I do it all the time.  I click the parent area and then add new.  Then
click ok
Then I add the child and go up to the parent and backout the surname..
Works everytime for me

Jenny M Benson wrote:
> On 31/07/2010 19:58, Laura Johnson wrote:
>
>> when that happens, all you need to do is to delete the surname in the
>> parent's area
>>
>
> You can't!  You can't save a person with no name and if you delete the
> parent there is nothing to show that the 2 children are siblings.
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Re: [LegacyUG] Entering siblings

[Laura Johnson]

when that happens, all you need to do is to delete the surname in the
parent's area

Jenny M Benson wrote:
> But as soon as you click in the "parent area" you will asked whether you
> want to create a new individual or link to an existing one.  You would
> obviously have to select the former and even if you don't give the
> person a forename, you *have* to accept the surname which Legacy
> suggests or create a new one.
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Re: [LegacyUG] Twice Married to Same Person in Legacy

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I have the same problem with my own marriage.  We were married 2 years
earlier in a civil ceremony and then later married in the church.

I create an event called Church Marriage Ceremony in the marriage events
and entered the date and place there.

Alan Jones wrote:
>   I have a brother about to get married for a 2nd time to the same
> woman.  The first marriage was a small civil ceremony with close family
> and friends.  The second over a year later will be in the bride's home
> town so she can get married in the Catholic Church.
>
> I want to represent both marriages in Legacy but not sure how best to do
> that.
>
> I have relatives that  have been married, divorced, and married other
> people and I know how to represent that in Legacy.  However this is a
> little different.
>
> What do other suggest?
>
> What are my options?
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Re: [LegacyUG] test

[Laura Johnson]

If he is NOT receiving messages from this list, he won't see your
message either.

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> Subject: [LegacyUG] test
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Re: [LegacyUG] locations

[Laura Johnson]

that works fine EXCEPT if you want to use all caps on a word in one
instance but regular on other instances.  Then you need to enter it both
ways in the list

Jenny M Benson wrote:
> Tim/Support wrote
>
>> If you would go to Options > Customize > Data Format Tab >  , down near
>> the bottom left, you will see 'Letter Case of Locations'. Select Don't
>> change what I enter. Then Apply. Save.
>>
>
> Oh that's handy!  I hadn't realised that was there.  (You're never too
> old to learn!)
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Re: [LegacyUG] Surname Case Problem

[Laura Johnson]

The asterisk does show when you select the Children's setting BUT
..I DON"T want to have to do that in order to see which child is
the preferred child which in my case is my direct ancestor.

Times New Roman - I can't see the difference in bold there either.  I
thought that maybe this has a lot to do with the fact that I only use
legacy in the upper half of my screen and am typing from the excel files
in the bottom half but I just tried Legacy full screen and it is the
same way - still cannot distinguish the BOLD or the asterisk after the
child's name.  I am running Legacy with the latest update.

So, I decided to see if it was just this computer or if I could
replicate it on my laptop.  Both Legacy programs have exactly the same
settings.  The only difference is that the laptop is Vista Professional
64-bit.  The computer is XP Essential for Business.  Both screens look
exactly alike and I cannot see the bold or asterisk.

So I did another experiment.  I unchecked to show the asterisk.  Closed
Legacy then reopened it.  The asterisk now appears.

So I thought maybe if that worked, I would try fixing the bold - I
unchecked show direct ancestor in bold, closed Legacy and restarted -
but that didn't make it appear any bolder than the other children.

Connie Sheets wrote:
> Ron Ferguson  wrote:
>
>
>> Laura,
>>
>> You haven't got your font set to a bold typeface, eg. Arial
>> Bold, have you?
>>
>> Ron Ferguson
>>
>
> My font is set to Times New Roman, regular, and while the direct line does 
> show in bold, it is difficult for my aging eyes to discern the subtle 
> difference.  I'm surprised the * doesn't show on Family View; I thought it 
> used to, but maybe not.
>
> Should I forget which child is "mine," I right click on the children's area 
> of the screen, select Children's Settings and then can navigate from the 
> Children's List, which does show the asterisk.
>
> Connie
>
>
>
>
>
>> _
>>
>> Completely rewritten and revised:
>> http://www.fergys.co.uk
>> Includes the family tree for Alan J Grimshaw
>> And the  Fergusons of N.W. England
>> 
>>
>>
>> Laura Johnson wrote:
>>
>>> Wendy
>>>
>>> 1.  I already have the relationships set to
>>>
>> appear  with me as the
>>
>>> starting point
>>> 2.  I already have it set to show direct line in
>>>
>> BOLD - not able to
>>
>>> see any difference
>>> 3.  I already have each direct ancestor appear as
>>>
>> the preferred child
>>
>>> - can't see any asterisk next to the name
>>>
>>> So even though I can see the relationships, I CANNOT
>>>
>> tell which child
>>
>>> is the direct descendant because they do NOT appear as
>>>
>> bold nor do I
>>
>>> see the asterisk
>>>
>>> So the ALL CAPS on the direct ancestor is the only
>>>
>> thing that appears
>>
>>> to make it stand out
>>>
>>> Wendy Howard wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Laura,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> is there any way to all CAPS on some instances
>>>>>
>> of a surname and on
>>
>>>>> others, just regular?  In FTM, I had my
>>>>>
>> direct line in ALL CAPS.
>>
>>>>> All others with the same surname were typed
>>>>>
>> regularly.
>>
>>>> You've already had responses that have told you
>>>>
>> that yes, you can
>>
>>>> have Sansone and SANSONE in your surnames list,
>>>>
>> but they will be
>>
>>>> separate, unattached names.  That may not be
>>>>
>> what you want.
>>
>>>> Did you know that you have other methods for
>>>>
>> highlighting your direct
>>
>>>> line?  You don't have to rely on capital
>>>>
>> letters here.
>>
>>>> You can have your direct line showing in bold
>>>>
>> lettering.  Options >
>>
>>>> Customize > Data Format > Indicate
>>>>
>> direct-line children in lists
>>
>>>> (bold)
>>>>
>>>> You can have relationships showing above the
>>>>
>> central couple in Family
>>
>>>> View.  Tools > Set Relationships
>>>>
>>>> You can put an asterisk against a &qu

Re: [LegacyUG] Surname Case Problem

[Laura Johnson]

no, it is not a bold typeface.  It is just Arial

Ron Ferguson wrote:
> Laura,
>
> You haven't got your font set to a bold typeface, eg. Arial Bold, have you?
>
> Ron Ferguson
> _
>
> Completely rewritten and revised:
> http://www.fergys.co.uk
> Includes the family tree for Alan J Grimshaw
> And the  Fergusons of N.W. England
> ________
>
>
> Laura Johnson wrote:
>
>> Wendy
>>
>> 1.  I already have the relationships set to appear  with me as the
>> starting point
>> 2.  I already have it set to show direct line in BOLD - not able to
>> see any difference
>> 3.  I already have each direct ancestor appear as the preferred child
>> - can't see any asterisk next to the name
>>
>> So even though I can see the relationships, I CANNOT tell which child
>> is the direct descendant because they do NOT appear as bold nor do I
>> see the asterisk
>>
>> So the ALL CAPS on the direct ancestor is the only thing that appears
>> to make it stand out
>>
>> Wendy Howard wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Laura,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> is there any way to all CAPS on some instances of a surname and on
>>>> others, just regular?  In FTM, I had my direct line in ALL CAPS.
>>>> All others with the same surname were typed regularly.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> You've already had responses that have told you that yes, you can
>>> have Sansone and SANSONE in your surnames list, but they will be
>>> separate, unattached names.  That may not be what you want.
>>>
>>> Did you know that you have other methods for highlighting your direct
>>> line?  You don't have to rely on capital letters here.
>>>
>>> You can have your direct line showing in bold lettering.  Options >
>>> Customize > Data Format > Indicate direct-line children in lists
>>> (bold)
>>>
>>> You can have relationships showing above the central couple in Family
>>> View.  Tools > Set Relationships
>>>
>>> You can put an asterisk against a "preferred" child in any family.
>>> It's automatically applied to the first child entered, but it is
>>> quickly changed if desired.  Right-click on a child in Family View
>>> and select Children's Settings; select the child you want and click
>>> on Set to Preferred Child.
>>>
>>> Hope this helps.  :-)
>>>
>>> Kind Regards,
>>> Wendy Howard
>>>
>>>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Surname Case Problem

[Laura Johnson]

Wendy

1.  I already have the relationships set to appear  with me as the
starting point
2.  I already have it set to show direct line in BOLD - not able to see
any difference
3.  I already have each direct ancestor appear as the preferred child -
can't see any asterisk next to the name

So even though I can see the relationships, I CANNOT tell which child is
the direct descendant because they do NOT appear as bold nor do I see
the asterisk

So the ALL CAPS on the direct ancestor is the only thing that appears to
make it stand out

Wendy Howard wrote:
> Hi Laura,
>
>
>> is there any way to all CAPS on some instances of a surname and on
>> others, just regular?  In FTM, I had my direct line in ALL CAPS.  All
>> others with the same surname were typed regularly.
>>
>
> You've already had responses that have told you that yes, you can have
> Sansone and SANSONE in your surnames list, but they will be separate,
> unattached names.  That may not be what you want.
>
> Did you know that you have other methods for highlighting your direct
> line?  You don't have to rely on capital letters here.
>
> You can have your direct line showing in bold lettering.  Options >
> Customize > Data Format > Indicate direct-line children in lists (bold)
>
> You can have relationships showing above the central couple in Family
> View.  Tools > Set Relationships
>
> You can put an asterisk against a "preferred" child in any family.  It's
> automatically applied to the first child entered, but it is quickly
> changed if desired.  Right-click on a child in Family View and select
> Children's Settings; select the child you want and click on Set to
> Preferred Child.
>
> Hope this helps.  :-)
>
> Kind Regards,
> Wendy Howard
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Re: [LegacyUG] Surname Case Problem

[Laura Johnson]

Actually, that is already checked and it won't let you type a surname in
all caps.

BUT.I did find a workaround.  I needed to add the surname
both ways in the Master Surname list

Ron Ferguson wrote:
> Laura,
>
> I have not tested this, I I have no wish to follow your suggestion and I
> don't want to have to redo my files (whether it works or not)
>
> However, I think if you go to Options>Customise>Data Format and set the
> Letter case of names to "Do not change what I enter" and then change
> (manually) all your direct lines to caps it should then do the job.
>
> Ron Ferguson
>
> Laura Johnson wrote:
>
>> is there any way to all CAPS on some instances of a surname and on
>> others, just regular?  In FTM, I had my direct line in ALL CAPS.  All
>> others with the same surname were typed regularly.
>>
>> For example, Saverio Sansone was my great-grandfather and his name was
>> SAVERIO SANSONE.
>> Saverio's brother was Agostino Sansone and it appeared with mixed.
>>
>> Sherry/Support wrote:
>>
>>> You need to edit the surname in the Master Surname List.
>>>
>>> Thanks for using Legacy.
>>>
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>>> Customer Support
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>>> correspondence.  Thanks.
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Bobby Johnson [mailto:b...@brmemc.net]
>>> Sent: Monday, April 19, 2010 7:00 AM
>>> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
>>> Subject: [LegacyUG] Surname Case Problem
>>>
>>> I am using v7.4.0.30 and am unable to display the case of surnames
>>> properly.
>>>
>>> Example:  I type O'Donnell and the Family display is O'donnell.
>>>
>>> In the customize > data format I have checked the "Do not change
>>> what I type" in the surname field.
>>>
>>> Why is this happening?
>>>
>>> Bobby Johnson
>>>
>>>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Surname Case Problem

[Laura Johnson]

is there any way to all CAPS on some instances of a surname and on
others, just regular?  In FTM, I had my direct line in ALL CAPS.  All
others with the same surname were typed regularly.

For example, Saverio Sansone was my great-grandfather and his name was
SAVERIO SANSONE.
Saverio's brother was Agostino Sansone and it appeared with mixed.

Sherry/Support wrote:
> You need to edit the surname in the Master Surname List.
>
> Thanks for using Legacy.
>
> Sherry
> Customer Support
> Millennia Corporation
> supp...@legacyfamilytree.com
> http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com
>
> We are changing the world of genealogy!
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> When replying to this message, please include all previous correspondence.  
> Thanks.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Bobby Johnson [mailto:b...@brmemc.net]
> Sent: Monday, April 19, 2010 7:00 AM
> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Subject: [LegacyUG] Surname Case Problem
>
> I am using v7.4.0.30 and am unable to display the case of surnames properly.
>
> Example:  I type O'Donnell and the Family display is O'donnell.
>
> In the customize > data format I have checked the "Do not change what I type" 
> in the surname field.
>
> Why is this happening?
>
> Bobby Johnson
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Re: [LegacyUG] Twin, Stillborn, Etc

[Laura Johnson]

They are already listed in the Status box.  They do NOT appear next to
the child's name when you go back to the listing of the children for
that family like they did before.

Ron Ferguson wrote:
> Laura Johnson wrote:
>
>> My friend recently updated to the latest version but I did not
>> because I am working on a project that I want to complete first
>> but...
>>
>> Once my friend updated, she when she chooses Twin, Stillborn, etc from
>> the children's settings, it no longer appears after the name of the
>> child anymore.  It still does in my version.
>>
>> Can anyone tell me what she needs to do to fix this?
>>
>>
> Laura,
>
> They are still there on mine. However,  in case your friend is looking in
> the wrong place, or otherwise, right click on a child and select Children's
> Settings>Status. On the right hind side is an ADD button, click it and add
> whatever.
>
> Ron Ferguson
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[LegacyUG] Twin, Stillborn, Etc

[Laura Johnson]

My friend recently updated to the latest version but I did not because I
am working on a project that I want to complete first but...

Once my friend updated, she when she chooses Twin, Stillborn, etc from
the children's settings, it no longer appears after the name of the
child anymore.  It still does in my version.

Can anyone tell me what she needs to do to fix this?



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Re: [LegacyUG] Multiple marriages

[Laura Johnson]

it also makes it stand out in reports and works very well especially if
you are sending the reports to individuals asking them to help fill in
the missing data.

Connie Sheets wrote:
> Jenny M Benson wrote:
>
>
>> I expect several people will be along in a moment to tell
>> you what they use rather than "Unknown Unknown."
>>
>
>
> I create people named _ _.  Or, when I know only the first or last 
> name, they are John _ or _ Smith.
>
> I realize there are valid arguments against this practice, but I've been 
> using it for years and it works just fine for me.
>
> Connie
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Re: [LegacyUG] Ref: Tagging

[Laura Johnson]

Termini Imerese

Herbert Hart wrote:
> May I know the name of the Sicilian comune (town)?  Herb
>
>
> my file is 48000+ individuals.  Legacy runs smoothly and very quickly.
> This was the main reason I switched from FTM 2009 to Legacy.  FTM
> couldn't handle my file.
>
> I am transcribing a complete town in Sicily's records and am not even
> 20% finished at this point
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Re: [LegacyUG] Ref: Tagging

[Laura Johnson]

my file is 48000+ individuals.  Legacy runs smoothly and very quickly.
This was the main reason I switched from FTM 2009 to Legacy.  FTM
couldn't handle my file.

I am transcribing a complete town in Sicily's records and am not even
20% finished at this point

Bill Wood wrote:
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> Hello,
>
>
> A bit off topic but I am curious
>
> Accumulating a tree of 40,000 people must have been a massive effort.
>
> How did you do it ? How many Megs is the Legacy file ? Does Legacy
> cope adequately with the records for 40,000 people ie smooth running
> and no hanging and quick responses ?
>
> Bill
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Re: [LegacyUG] Newbie Introduction

[Laura Johnson]

Angelique

I am the opposite of you.  I have used FTM since version 2.0 when it was
dos based.  I beta tested versions 9 through 2008.  I HATE the new
interface, don't find it very intuitive, takes too long to move between
screens and takes much longer to add one source to a person.  FTM 2010
still has not finished removing all of the bugs on the new interface
regarding large files (mine is over 48,000 people) which makes it
extremely slow and unresponsive at times.

I had been experimenting with Legacy for about 3 years and finally make
the switch totally to Legacy after the new FTM 2010 still did not
address all of the problems.  It will take FTM years to get up to the
speed of Version 2006/Ver 16 which is still years behind what Legacy has
to offer.

Laura


Marvin & Angelique Welch wrote:
> Hello All,
>
> My name is Angelique and I am just joining. I have used Legacy for a
> few years (my first v. was 6.0 Deluxe) so I am still fairly new to all
> the features. I just recently upgraded to 7.0 Deluxe.
>
> I recently purchased FTM 2010 and have been divided about what program
> I like better.
>
> Here are my pros and cons for each:
>
> Legacy Pros
>
> * I have preferred Legacy to most other programs in the past
> * Great features that FTM does not have
> * Ability to create CD/DVD's using Passage Express
> * Various tools such as the relationship calculator etc.
>
> Legacy Cons
>
> * Why does it have to take a separate window for EVERYTHING? I
>   find myself spending hours doing one task due to all the
>   clicking needed to get where I need to go. For example, just
>   entering a source and attaching it to the various individuals
>   takes much longer than in FTM, even using the source clipboard.
>   (Another example, just changing the color scheme requires one
>   click to the "options" tab, another to select the "colors" tab
>   and then ANOTHER click on the huge button that says, "click here
>   to change user interface colors". Now come on, is that last
>   button really necessary? Then you can finally select your
>   colors, but not without clicking some more for EACH component
>   and change you want to make)
> * The new source templates are confusing (why is there no template
>   for a book without an author?). When I import my Legacy file
>   into anything else, the sources made with the new templates all
>   have a "/i" in front of and behind the title in the main source
>   list. I am guessing this is because the source made with the new
>   templates have a *bullet* in front of them in the main source
>   list and the export process is not getting rid of it and instead
>   adding all sorts of other fun characters to my source names.
> * The user interface in Legacy could be a lot simpler. There is no
>   need to have a separate tab for the pedigree view when the
>   family view could be reduced to include it, along with a name
>   index along the right or left side (similar to FTM view). I like
>   the views in FTM much better because of this huge convenience.
> * I have a hard time working with my file when I cannot see the
>   individual source citations from a main source. I see we can use
>   the "show list" feature to show which individuals are using a
>   "main" source, the source list does not detail each /individual
>   citation and the facts it is connected to/. I usually have to
>   find an individual that the source is attached to, open their
>   source list and see what exactly what facts the source is
>   attached to. In FTM, the source tab allows a view of each source
>   title, each individual source citation, AND the individual facts
>   it is attached to, very simply.
>
> FTM 2010 Pros
>
> * I love the ease of adding sources, records and images in FTM. It
>   is definitely not this easy in Legacy and I am not sure why.
> * I love the views in FTM, allowing you to view the family page,
>   pedigree, index and more in one window, much easier.
> * FTM's media center is the easiest way to attach images to a
>   family tree. In Legacy, there is no one media gallery that can
>   be accessed to see what images are attached to what or to modify
>   the caption for an image and have it reflect wherever else the
>   images is attached. I have used the "picture center" in Legacy,
>   but it is still not as efficient as the "media center" in FTM.
> * I prefer FTM's layout for sources since I can view the source
>   titles AND what they are attached to (specifically), text,
>   citation detail, and more in ONE view instead of clicking around
>   in various tabs for the text and list like Legacy.
>
> FTM Cons
>
> * I will never be able to open my Legacy file in FTM without
>   losing data, even though FTM markets the new software as being
>   able to import Legacy files