Re: [LegacyUG] Computer crashed - how do I move legacy to new computer?
That's fine, as long as you can get online when you need to access your backup. It may not be your genealogy that you want to access, but other important pieces of information, so don't just think in terms of your genealogy files. I recommend something that you can access directly, such as an external hard drive, as well. If one fails, the other may be okay. Wendy Pat Hickin said the following on 27/03/2013 3:31 p.m.: I back up to Dropbox and the Cloud (online backup service) -- is that enough? Pat Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Computer crashed - how do I move legacy to new computer?
On 27/03/2013 10:27 AM, Ron Walter wrote: Ron If the internet isn't available what makes you think that there will be electricity? I suggest backing up to goatskins as the only safe alternative. Ron What a great idea, blow the internet, external HD's, DVD's etc, I'm off to get a goat! :-) Graham Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Computer crashed - how do I move legacy to new computer?
My DELETE button is wearing out. Could we stay on subject of questions about Legacy? Some people are trying to make a hobby much too difficult. Everyone with substantial genealogy or other data on their computer should be backing up to Carbonite or Mozy or similar, that backs up outside the house without having to find time to actually do it. Roland Rhoades Maine Families Genealogist www.RolandRhoades.com see...@maine.rr.com 2010: 30 Years as a Genealogist -Original Message- From: Graham Lambert [mailto:gra...@bigpond.net.au] Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2013 4:00 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Computer crashed - how do I move legacy to new computer? On 27/03/2013 10:27 AM, Ron Walter wrote: Ron If the internet isn't available what makes you think that there will be electricity? I suggest backing up to goatskins as the only safe alternative. Ron What a great idea, blow the internet, external HD's, DVD's etc, I'm off to get a goat! :-) Graham Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Computer crashed - how do I move legacy to new computer?
The Legacy backup. zip file when created is always stored in the Legacy Data folder. --- Ron Ferguson http://www.fergys.co.uk/ GOONS #5307 JLB j...@jgen.ws wrote: Are you aware of where the backup files are being saved? I mean, just so you know to also backup again from there to an external source. - JL Beeken JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists http://jlog.jgen.ws/ On 3/25/2013 9:03 PM, elizabeth wrote: I do always get the prompt to backup whenever I close Legacy and I always do the backup. But I did not associate that with what JLB said (...the '''zip''' file that's created when you click the '''BACKUP button) since I have never paid any attention to what format the file was being save as when I close Legacy.jpg, zip, txt, or whatever. I've never bothered to look for a '''Backup button''' anywhere else either, since I always get that backup prompt window and always use it. Thank you all for your help Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Computer crashed - how do I move legacy to new computer?
On 26/03/2013 09:00, Ron Ferguson wrote: The Legacy backup. zip file when created is always stored in the Legacy Data folder. Unless you've told Legacy to store it somewhere else, as I have. -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Computer crashed - how do I move legacy to new computer?
Ideally you direct it to a different physical device (hard drive, memory stick, etc.) than where your active family file is stored, in case of hardware failure. Unless it will be promptly backed up by an automated backup program to the cloud or to another device. -Original Message- From: Jenny M Benson Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2013 7:00 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Computer crashed - how do I move legacy to new computer? On 26/03/2013 09:00, Ron Ferguson wrote: The Legacy backup. zip file when created is always stored in the Legacy Data folder. Unless you've told Legacy to store it somewhere else, as I have. -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Computer crashed - how do I move legacy to new computer?
Well, that should be changed (and it's easy on the backup screen) or you're in danger of losing them all if your computer crashes. I send my backup files to a folder of their own inside My Documents. All of My Documents is backed up to an external hard-drive daily. - JL Beeken JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists http://jlog.jgen.ws/ On 3/26/2013 2:00 AM, Ron Ferguson wrote: The Legacy backup. zip file when created is always stored in the Legacy Data folder. --- Ron Ferguson http://www.fergys.co.uk/ GOONS #5307 Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Computer crashed - how do I move legacy to new computer?
That is the Legacy Default which I though was the question I was answering. If, however, you are asking where I have my back-ups, then in addition to the default I have copies on my brother-in-law's PC, the cloud and an external HD. Ron Ferguson, http://www.fergys.co.uk/ -Original Message- From: JLB Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2013 3:48 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Computer crashed - how do I move legacy to new computer? Well, that should be changed (and it's easy on the backup screen) or you're in danger of losing them all if your computer crashes. I send my backup files to a folder of their own inside My Documents. All of My Documents is backed up to an external hard-drive daily. - JL Beeken JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists http://jlog.jgen.ws/ On 3/26/2013 2:00 AM, Ron Ferguson wrote: The Legacy backup. zip file when created is always stored in the Legacy Data folder. --- Ron Ferguson http://www.fergys.co.uk/ GOONS #5307 Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Computer crashed - how do I move legacy to new computer?
Ron, I was just punctuating the point for anyone who hasn't looked at that closely. Some people might not have noticed that the default setting could get them in trouble. It wasn't directed at you personally. - JL Beeken JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists http://jlog.jgen.ws/ On 3/26/2013 10:04 AM, Ron Ferguson wrote: That is the Legacy Default which I though was the question I was answering. If, however, you are asking where I have my back-ups, then in addition to the default I have copies on my brother-in-law's PC, the cloud and an external HD. Ron Ferguson, http://www.fergys.co.uk/ Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Computer crashed - how do I move legacy to new computer?
No problem, I didn't take it that way - it's the sort of comment which I would make anyhow :-). Guess we have made the point though! Ron Ferguson http://www.fergys.co.uk/ -Original Message- From: JLB Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2013 5:21 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Computer crashed - how do I move legacy to new computer? Ron, I was just punctuating the point for anyone who hasn't looked at that closely. Some people might not have noticed that the default setting could get them in trouble. It wasn't directed at you personally. - JL Beeken JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists http://jlog.jgen.ws/ On 3/26/2013 10:04 AM, Ron Ferguson wrote: That is the Legacy Default which I though was the question I was answering. If, however, you are asking where I have my back-ups, then in addition to the default I have copies on my brother-in-law's PC, the cloud and an external HD. Ron Ferguson, http://www.fergys.co.uk/ Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Computer crashed - how do I move legacy to new computer?
Just curious if you and any others make a local media backup, i.e. DVD? I generally will make a cumulative backup to DVD about every 6 months to a max of one year. There may come a time in the future when either the Internet has been sabotaged on a semi-permanent basis or else it is so congested that any throughput is just a trickle. And remember, cloud storage is just somebody else's hard drive. Brian in California -Original Message- From: Ron Ferguson [mailto:ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk] Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2013 10:04 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Computer crashed - how do I move legacy to new computer? That is the Legacy Default which I though was the question I was answering. If, however, you are asking where I have my back-ups, then in addition to the default I have copies on my brother-in-law's PC, the cloud and an external HD. Ron Ferguson, http://www.fergys.co.uk/ -Original Message- From: JLB Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2013 3:48 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Computer crashed - how do I move legacy to new computer? Well, that should be changed (and it's easy on the backup screen) or you're in danger of losing them all if your computer crashes. I send my backup files to a folder of their own inside My Documents. All of My Documents is backed up to an external hard-drive daily. - JL Beeken JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists http://jlog.jgen.ws/ On 3/26/2013 2:00 AM, Ron Ferguson wrote: The Legacy backup. zip file when created is always stored in the Legacy Data folder. --- Ron Ferguson http://www.fergys.co.uk/ GOONS #5307 Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Computer crashed - how do I move legacy to new computer?
I backup to an external hard drive and store it in my safety deposit box. It is important not only to have one or more backups, but at least some of them should be stored offsite. Offsite options include the cloud, a friend's house, safety deposit box, whatever. If not, a fire or flood at your home could wipe out all copies. Paul Gray -Original Message- From: Brian L. Lightfoot [mailto:br...@the-lightfoots.com] Sent: March-26-13 4:55 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Computer crashed - how do I move legacy to new computer? Just curious if you and any others make a local media backup, i.e. DVD? I generally will make a cumulative backup to DVD about every 6 months to a max of one year. There may come a time in the future when either the Internet has been sabotaged on a semi-permanent basis or else it is so congested that any throughput is just a trickle. And remember, cloud storage is just somebody else's hard drive. Brian in California -Original Message- From: Ron Ferguson [mailto:ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk] Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2013 10:04 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Computer crashed - how do I move legacy to new computer? That is the Legacy Default which I though was the question I was answering. If, however, you are asking where I have my back-ups, then in addition to the default I have copies on my brother-in-law's PC, the cloud and an external HD. Ron Ferguson, http://www.fergys.co.uk/ -Original Message- From: JLB Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2013 3:48 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Computer crashed - how do I move legacy to new computer? Well, that should be changed (and it's easy on the backup screen) or you're in danger of losing them all if your computer crashes. I send my backup files to a folder of their own inside My Documents. All of My Documents is backed up to an external hard-drive daily. - JL Beeken JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists http://jlog.jgen.ws/ On 3/26/2013 2:00 AM, Ron Ferguson wrote: The Legacy backup. zip file when created is always stored in the Legacy Data folder. --- Ron Ferguson http://www.fergys.co.uk/ GOONS #5307 Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Computer crashed - how do I move legacy to new computer?
Brian, No, I do not back up to DVDs etc.. I did 10 - 12 years ago but stopped as the price HD memory fell, I can't remember exactly when that was, but maybe 8 years ago. I fail to see why, in the circumstances you describe, a DVD would be preferable to an external a HD, neither are dependant on the internet, and I do not have great confidence in a DVD which has been written to many times. In my case, if the Internet does implode, and the world enters into the consequencial total disorder, I will be happy in the knowledge that the copy on my external HD and on my brother-in-law's PC will be available. --- Ron Ferguson http://www.fergys.co.uk/ GOONS #5307 Brian L. Lightfoot br...@the-lightfoots.com wrote: Just curious if you and any others make a local media backup, i.e. DVD? I generally will make a cumulative backup to DVD about every 6 months to a max of one year. There may come a time in the future when either the Internet has been sabotaged on a semi-permanent basis or else it is so congested that any throughput is just a trickle. And remember, cloud storage is just somebody else's hard drive. Brian in California -Original Message- From: Ron Ferguson [mailto:ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk] Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2013 10:04 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Computer crashed - how do I move legacy to new computer? That is the Legacy Default which I though was the question I was answering. If, however, you are asking where I have my back-ups, then in addition to the default I have copies on my brother-in-law's PC, the cloud and an external HD. Ron Ferguson, http://www.fergys.co.uk/ -Original Message- From: JLB Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2013 3:48 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Computer crashed - how do I move legacy to new computer? Well, that should be changed (and it's easy on the backup screen) or you're in danger of losing them all if your computer crashes. I send my backup files to a folder of their own inside My Documents. All of My Documents is backed up to an external hard-drive daily. - JL Beeken JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists http://jlog.jgen.ws/ On 3/26/2013 2:00 AM, Ron Ferguson wrote: The Legacy backup. zip file when created is always stored in the Legacy Data folder. --- Ron Ferguson http://www.fergys.co.uk/ GOONS #5307 Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Computer crashed - how do I move legacy to new computer?
Ron If the internet isn't available what makes you think that there will be electricity? I suggest backing up to goatskins as the only safe alternative. Ron Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Computer crashed - how do I move legacy to new computer?
I used to back up to disc until it took about 50 of them to do everything. And then repeating that every few months got ridiculous in price. And time. Then I did it only to send copies to my family every couple of years of a relatively small amount of the files in case they cared about having an update. Nowadays I can zip up a folder and put it in Dropbox. An external hard-drive is preferable in every way I can imagine, not the least of which is that I can back up my files immediately. I don't understand the point of a safety deposit box, as someone suggested. Do you go get the drive out, bring it home, update it and go put it back in the box? If I had that kind of routine on my schedule I'd probably only get it done once a year. I just toss my most up-to-date backup drive in my pocket when I leave the house. Unless the earth swallows my house (plus computer) AND I get run over by a bus on the same day, it works. I use the cloud for transferring files to others but I don't depend on it for backups. It might be safe but do you really want to depend on someone else to keep your files? - JL Beeken JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists http://jlog.jgen.ws/ On 3/26/2013 4:21 PM, Ron Ferguson wrote: Brian, No, I do not back up to DVDs etc.. I did 10 - 12 years ago but stopped as the price HD memory fell, I can't remember exactly when that was, but maybe 8 years ago. I fail to see why, in the circumstances you describe, a DVD would be preferable to an external a HD, neither are dependant on the internet, and I do not have great confidence in a DVD which has been written to many times. In my case, if the Internet does implode, and the world enters into the consequencial total disorder, I will be happy in the knowledge that the copy on my external HD and on my brother-in-law's PC will be available. --- Ron Ferguson http://www.fergys.co.uk/ GOONS #5307 Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Computer crashed - how do I move legacy to new computer?
If there's no electricity we'll be too busy surviving to enjoy our present indulgence in what dead people did. But then of course there's FamilySearch with their indestructible mountain of microfilm so when we crawl out of the dirt we can start over. O, boy, I can see this thread going downhill from here ... let 'er rip. - JL Beeken JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists http://jlog.jgen.ws/ On 3/26/2013 4:27 PM, Ron Walter wrote: Ron If the internet isn't available what makes you think that there will be electricity? I suggest backing up to goatskins as the only safe alternative. Ron Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Computer crashed - how do I move legacy to new computer?
Well, it's been an interesting discussion so far. It started out as to how to back up the Legacy family file and then the questions arose as to where to back up the files. Seems clear to me that there should be at least 2 different geographic locations where the backups are held: one can be your own house and the second can be your relative's house which could be across town or across the country. Doesn't matter as long as it is not in the same location otherwise if your house burns down, all backups literally go up in flames. I think these generally suffice for what I call short-term storage, defining short-term to mean your own life span. When it comes to long-term storage, meaning something that your grandchildren will be able to access, the format of the media upon which the data is held seems to be of most importance. Note that even the LDS keeps their master storage as a physical hardcopy of microfilm. The do not rely solely on magnetically read media such as hard drives or DVDs. Maybe they're scared of the effects of EMP from a nuclear detonation or maybe they just know all these short term methods degrade from bit rot, mostly likely effects of gamma rays and who knows what else. So, are we all storing our data just for short-term? Not discounting the chance of any type of global disaster in the next 100 years, doesn't it seem logical that the only SURE method of storage is actually a hardcopy of some type. I would assume this to be most likely a printed set of reports or even a bound manuscript or booklet. Hey, could even mean goatskins after all. Brian in California -Original Message- From: JLB [mailto:j...@jgen.ws] Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2013 4:41 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Computer crashed - how do I move legacy to new computer? If there's no electricity we'll be too busy surviving to enjoy our present indulgence in what dead people did. But then of course there's FamilySearch with their indestructible mountain of microfilm so when we crawl out of the dirt we can start over. O, boy, I can see this thread going downhill from here ... let 'er rip. - JL Beeken JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists http://jlog.jgen.ws/ On 3/26/2013 4:27 PM, Ron Walter wrote: Ron If the internet isn't available what makes you think that there will be electricity? I suggest backing up to goatskins as the only safe alternative. Ron Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Computer crashed - how do I move legacy to new computer?
Since this conversation has turned to disaster now, how can paper storage be considered 'safe'? Paper burns. Paper rots. Paper turns to mush if you add enough water. Ink fades. Perhaps as genealogists we're overly concerned with forever. - JL Beeken JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists http://jlog.jgen.ws/ On 3/26/2013 5:50 PM, Brian L. Lightfoot wrote: Well, it's been an interesting discussion so far. It started out as to how to back up the Legacy family file and then the questions arose as to where to back up the files. Seems clear to me that there should be at least 2 different geographic locations where the backups are held: one can be your own house and the second can be your relative's house which could be across town or across the country. Doesn't matter as long as it is not in the same location otherwise if your house burns down, all backups literally go up in flames. I think these generally suffice for what I call short-term storage, defining short-term to mean your own life span. When it comes to long-term storage, meaning something that your grandchildren will be able to access, the format of the media upon which the data is held seems to be of most importance. Note that even the LDS keeps their master storage as a physical hardcopy of microfilm. The do not rely solely on magnetically read media such as hard drives or DVDs. Maybe they're scared of the effects of EMP from a nuclear detonation or maybe they just know all these short term methods degrade from bit rot, mostly likely effects of gamma rays and who knows what else. So, are we all storing our data just for short-term? Not discounting the chance of any type of global disaster in the next 100 years, doesn't it seem logical that the only SURE method of storage is actually a hardcopy of some type. I would assume this to be most likely a printed set of reports or even a bound manuscript or booklet. Hey, could even mean goatskins after all. Brian in California Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Computer crashed - how do I move legacy to new computer?
I do two different backup scenarios. I feel more comfortable with what I am doing as I also run 2 major websites and I have countless hours invested in those and all of their projects, databases, pictures, etc The first scenario takes 2 external hard drives. On the first Friday of every month, I ghost copy my external drive to a different external drive. Then on that Saturday morning, I go to the safe deposit box and put it in and remove the one from the previous month. The second scenario is that I have two 32 gig thumb drives. I have all major files backed up to them. If any major changes are made to these file, I immediately back up to these thumb drives as well as well as to my external drive. I carry these thumb drives with me - one in my purse and one on my keychain. On 3/26/2013 6:34 PM, JLB wrote: I don't understand the point of a safety deposit box, as someone suggested. Do you go get the drive out, bring it home, update it and go put it back in the box? If I had that kind of routine on my schedule I'd probably only get it done once a year. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Computer crashed - how do I move legacy to new computer?
I back up to Dropbox and the Cloud (online backup service) -- is that enough? Pat Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Computer crashed - how do I move legacy to new computer?
And, don't forget that when closing one is always asked if a backup is required. I confess that I cannot see how this can be missed! --- Ron Ferguson http://www.fergys.co.uk/ GOONS #5307 JLB j...@jgen.ws wrote: Yes, you should start with installing the latest version of Legacy. Copying and pasting your backup Legacy folder over the top of the installation is not the best idea but it will do in a pinch. That way you'll preserve your user settings. After you have it all on your new computer, you can install Legacy again over the top of everything to make sure you have all the files that should be there. I think that's how I'd do it anyway if I was where you are. For the future, there's a backup button that can be dragged onto your toolbar in Legacy. Right click on the toolbar and it will bring up a menu of icons. Find the backup button and drag it up to the top and click OK. Or you can back up using the File menu. It says right there - Backup Family File. This will create a zip file. Make a folder for them wherever you want and you can customize the Location for them on the Customize Backup screen. In the future you can use Restore to bring back a zip file. - JL Beeken JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists http://jlog.jgen.ws/ On 3/24/2013 9:02 PM, elizabeth wrote: Well, in this day and age there are still some who don't know everything..:-) I didn't even know Legacy had a 'backup' button. I've never seen it so it must be hidden somewhere. I use a flash drive for backup for my computer information. I always just copy/paste from my hard drive to the flash drive whenever I need to update the things I have on my hard drive.As far as I know I have never 'lost' anything by doing that. However I am not sure about moving Legacy to another computer which is why I am asking. I do have the main Legacy folder backed up on the flash drive (C:/Legacy). I also copy/pasted the original legacy 'exe' file from my 'Downloads' folder (C:/Downloads). This was the original .exe file I used to install Legacy on my computer when I first began using the program. I have updated the program now and then). Can I just download the latest Legacy version of the free program from the Legacy web site and then copy/paste the Legacy folder from my flash drive into the C:/ of my new computer? Or won't that work Q Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Computer crashed - how do I move legacy to new computer?
Ron, If you have turned it off. From Help: If you have turned off the backup reminder, we recommend that you reset your Legacy options to automatically prompt for backups each time you exit the program. Here's how: 1. Click Options on the menu bar and select Customize from the options menu. 2. At the Customize screen, click on the Other tab. 3. Click on the Turn on or off Optional Reminder Messages button. 4. On the Prompts/Reminders tab, checkmark the option, Reminder to make a backup when exiting Legacy and then click the Close button. :) Margaret On 25 March 2013 19:20, Ron Ferguson ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk wrote: And, don't forget that when closing one is always asked if a backup is required. I confess that I cannot see how this can be missed! --- Ron Ferguson http://www.fergys.co.uk/ GOONS #5307 JLB j...@jgen.ws wrote: Yes, you should start with installing the latest version of Legacy. Copying and pasting your backup Legacy folder over the top of the installation is not the best idea but it will do in a pinch. That way you'll preserve your user settings. After you have it all on your new computer, you can install Legacy again over the top of everything to make sure you have all the files that should be there. I think that's how I'd do it anyway if I was where you are. For the future, there's a backup button that can be dragged onto your toolbar in Legacy. Right click on the toolbar and it will bring up a menu of icons. Find the backup button and drag it up to the top and click OK. Or you can back up using the File menu. It says right there - Backup Family File. This will create a zip file. Make a folder for them wherever you want and you can customize the Location for them on the Customize Backup screen. In the future you can use Restore to bring back a zip file. - JL Beeken JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists http://jlog.jgen.ws/ On 3/24/2013 9:02 PM, elizabeth wrote: Well, in this day and age there are still some who don't know everything..:-) I didn't even know Legacy had a 'backup' button. I've never seen it so it must be hidden somewhere. I use a flash drive for backup for my computer information. I always just copy/paste from my hard drive to the flash drive whenever I need to update the things I have on my hard drive.As far as I know I have never 'lost' anything by doing that. However I am not sure about moving Legacy to another computer which is why I am asking. I do have the main Legacy folder backed up on the flash drive (C:/Legacy). I also copy/pasted the original legacy 'exe' file from my 'Downloads' folder (C:/Downloads). This was the original .exe file I used to install Legacy on my computer when I first began using the program. I have updated the program now and then). Can I just download the latest Legacy version of the free program from the Legacy web site and then copy/paste the Legacy folder from my flash drive into the C:/ of my new computer? Or won't that work Q Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Computer crashed - how do I move legacy to new computer?
To turn it off you must a) know that it exists and b) know where/how to do it. --- Ron Ferguson http://www.fergys.co.uk/ GOONS #5307 Margaret Turner mgroga...@gmail.com wrote: Ron, If you have turned it off. From Help: If you have turned off the backup reminder, we recommend that you reset your Legacy options to automatically prompt for backups each time you exit the program. Here's how: 1. Click Options on the menu bar and select Customize from the options menu. 2. At the Customize screen, click on the Other tab. 3. Click on the Turn on or off Optional Reminder Messages button. 4. On the Prompts/Reminders tab, checkmark the option, Reminder to make a backup when exiting Legacy and then click the Close button. :) Margaret On 25 March 2013 19:20, Ron Ferguson ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk wrote: And, don't forget that when closing one is always asked if a backup is required. I confess that I cannot see how this can be missed! --- Ron Ferguson http://www.fergys.co.uk/ GOONS #5307 JLB j...@jgen.ws wrote: Yes, you should start with installing the latest version of Legacy. Copying and pasting your backup Legacy folder over the top of the installation is not the best idea but it will do in a pinch. That way you'll preserve your user settings. After you have it all on your new computer, you can install Legacy again over the top of everything to make sure you have all the files that should be there. I think that's how I'd do it anyway if I was where you are. For the future, there's a backup button that can be dragged onto your toolbar in Legacy. Right click on the toolbar and it will bring up a menu of icons. Find the backup button and drag it up to the top and click OK. Or you can back up using the File menu. It says right there - Backup Family File. This will create a zip file. Make a folder for them wherever you want and you can customize the Location for them on the Customize Backup screen. In the future you can use Restore to bring back a zip file. - JL Beeken JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists http://jlog.jgen.ws/ On 3/24/2013 9:02 PM, elizabeth wrote: Well, in this day and age there are still some who don't know everything..:-) I didn't even know Legacy had a 'backup' button. I've never seen it so it must be hidden somewhere. I use a flash drive for backup for my computer information. I always just copy/paste from my hard drive to the flash drive whenever I need to update the things I have on my hard drive.As far as I know I have never 'lost' anything by doing that. However I am not sure about moving Legacy to another computer which is why I am asking. I do have the main Legacy folder backed up on the flash drive (C:/Legacy). I also copy/pasted the original legacy 'exe' file from my 'Downloads' folder (C:/Downloads). This was the original .exe file I used to install Legacy on my computer when I first began using the program. I have updated the program now and then). Can I just download the latest Legacy version of the free program from the Legacy web site and then copy/paste the Legacy folder from my flash drive into the C:/ of my new computer? Or won't that work Q Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Computer crashed - how do I move legacy to new computer?
That option must be turned off on my computer because I just tried closing without backing up and nothing happened. Hitting the Backup button every time is an automatic reflex so that works for me. - JL Beeken JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists http://jlog.jgen.ws/ On 3/25/2013 1:20 AM, Ron Ferguson wrote: And, don't forget that when closing one is always asked if a backup is required. I confess that I cannot see how this can be missed! --- Ron Ferguson http://www.fergys.co.uk/ GOONS #5307 Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Computer crashed - how do I move legacy to new computer?
Go to Options Customize Other Turn On or Off Optional Reminder Messages to set the reminder. It's on the Prompts/Reminders tab. The reminder will only pop up if you've done any edits to the Family File. It won't come up if you've only viewed the file. Sincerely, Sherry Technical Support Legacy Family Tree On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 9:42 AM, JLB j...@jgen.ws wrote: That option must be turned off on my computer because I just tried closing without backing up and nothing happened. Hitting the Backup button every time is an automatic reflex so that works for me. - JL Beeken JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists http://jlog.jgen.ws/ Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Computer crashed - how do I move legacy to new computer?
I'm pretty sure I turned it off so I wouldn't be bugged by it. Since I back up every time I work in there a reminder would be redundant. - JL Beeken JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists http://jlog.jgen.ws/ On 3/25/2013 9:53 AM, Sherry/Support wrote: Go to Options Customize Other Turn On or Off Optional Reminder Messages to set the reminder. It's on the Prompts/Reminders tab. The reminder will only pop up if you've done any edits to the Family File. It won't come up if you've only viewed the file. Sincerely, Sherry Technical Support Legacy Family Tree Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Computer crashed - how do I move legacy to new computer?
I prefer the idiot proof option grin --- Ron Ferguson http://www.fergys.co.uk/ GOONS #5307 JLB j...@jgen.ws wrote: That option must be turned off on my computer because I just tried closing without backing up and nothing happened. Hitting the Backup button every time is an automatic reflex so that works for me. - JL Beeken JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists http://jlog.jgen.ws/ On 3/25/2013 1:20 AM, Ron Ferguson wrote: And, don't forget that when closing one is always asked if a backup is required. I confess that I cannot see how this can be missed! --- Ron Ferguson http://www.fergys.co.uk/ GOONS #5307 Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Computer crashed - how do I move legacy to new computer?
I do always get the prompt to backup whenever I close Legacy and I always do the backup. But I did not associate that with what JLB said (...the '''zip''' file that's created when you click the '''BACKUP button) since I have never paid any attention to what format the file was being save as when I close Legacy.jpg, zip, txt, or whatever. I've never bothered to look for a '''Backup button''' anywhere else either, since I always get that backup prompt window and always use it. Thank you all for your help On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 11:57 AM, Ron Ferguson ronfergy@tiscali.co.ukwrote: I prefer the idiot proof option grin --- Ron Ferguson http://www.fergys.co.uk/ GOONS #5307 JLB j...@jgen.ws wrote: That option must be turned off on my computer because I just tried closing without backing up and nothing happened. Hitting the Backup button every time is an automatic reflex so that works for me. - JL Beeken JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists http://jlog.jgen.ws/ On 3/25/2013 1:20 AM, Ron Ferguson wrote: And, don't forget that when closing one is always asked if a backup is required. I confess that I cannot see how this can be missed! --- Ron Ferguson http://www.fergys.co.uk/ GOONS #5307 Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Computer crashed - how do I move legacy to new computer?
Are you aware of where the backup files are being saved? I mean, just so you know to also backup again from there to an external source. - JL Beeken JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists http://jlog.jgen.ws/ On 3/25/2013 9:03 PM, elizabeth wrote: I do always get the prompt to backup whenever I close Legacy and I always do the backup. But I did not associate that with what JLB said (...the '''zip''' file that's created when you click the '''BACKUP button) since I have never paid any attention to what format the file was being save as when I close Legacy.jpg, zip, txt, or whatever. I've never bothered to look for a '''Backup button''' anywhere else either, since I always get that backup prompt window and always use it. Thank you all for your help Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] Computer crashed - how do I move legacy to new computer?
Hi, I couldn't find an answer I could understand in the archives so I am hoping someone can help me here. My computer crashed and I need to move legacy to my new computer. How do I do it? Can I just copy/paste the 'Legacy folder' and the 'Legacy.exe file in my download folder' to my flash drive and then copy/paste them to my new computer? I use the free version of Legacy. Thanks! Elizabeth Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Computer crashed - how do I move legacy to new computer?
One just has to wonder how these things happen in this day and age of free and virtually free backup options. Do you have any Legacy BACKUPS? I mean the zip file that's created when you click the BACKUP button. If so, install Legacy on your new computer. Then click the RESTORE option in Legacy and browse to your most recently dated zip file (on a flash-drive or wherever you've got it by now.) Follow your nose through the rest of it. There's another dealie-do with the USR files but I'll save that for now. I'm wondering what you mean by your 'download folder'. Without knowing that I'm not sure what else is on your mind. Was EVERYTHING on one computer? Did you lose EVERYTHING? If not, what DO you have to work with Legacy-wise? - JL Beeken JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists http://jlog.jgen.ws/ On 3/24/2013 8:27 PM, elizabeth wrote: Hi, I couldn't find an answer I could understand in the archives so I am hoping someone can help me here. My computer crashed and I need to move legacy to my new computer. How do I do it? Can I just copy/paste the 'Legacy folder' and the 'Legacy.exe file in my download folder' to my flash drive and then copy/paste them to my new computer? I use the free version of Legacy. Thanks! Elizabeth Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Computer crashed - how do I move legacy to new computer?
Well, in this day and age there are still some who don't know everything..:-) I didn't even know Legacy had a 'backup' button. I've never seen it so it must be hidden somewhere. I use a flash drive for backup for my computer information. I always just copy/paste from my hard drive to the flash drive whenever I need to update the things I have on my hard drive.As far as I know I have never 'lost' anything by doing that. However I am not sure about moving Legacy to another computer which is why I am asking. I do have the main Legacy folder backed up on the flash drive (C:/Legacy). I also copy/pasted the original legacy 'exe' file from my 'Downloads' folder (C:/Downloads). This was the original .exe file I used to install Legacy on my computer when I first began using the program. I have updated the program now and then). Can I just download the latest Legacy version of the free program from the Legacy web site and then copy/paste the Legacy folder from my flash drive into the C:/ of my new computer? Or won't that work? On Sun, Mar 24, 2013 at 8:42 PM, JLB j...@jgen.ws wrote: One just has to wonder how these things happen in this day and age of free and virtually free backup options. Do you have any Legacy BACKUPS? I mean the zip file that's created when you click the BACKUP button. If so, install Legacy on your new computer. Then click the RESTORE option in Legacy and browse to your most recently dated zip file (on a flash-drive or wherever you've got it by now.) Follow your nose through the rest of it. There's another dealie-do with the USR files but I'll save that for now. I'm wondering what you mean by your 'download folder'. Without knowing that I'm not sure what else is on your mind. Was EVERYTHING on one computer? Did you lose EVERYTHING? If not, what DO you have to work with Legacy-wise? - JL Beeken JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists http://jlog.jgen.ws/ On 3/24/2013 8:27 PM, elizabeth wrote: Hi, I couldn't find an answer I could understand in the archives so I am hoping someone can help me here. My computer crashed and I need to move legacy to my new computer. How do I do it? Can I just copy/paste the 'Legacy folder' and the 'Legacy.exe file in my download folder' to my flash drive and then copy/paste them to my new computer? I use the free version of Legacy. Thanks! Elizabeth Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Computer crashed - how do I move legacy to new computer?
Yes, you should start with installing the latest version of Legacy. Copying and pasting your backup Legacy folder over the top of the installation is not the best idea but it will do in a pinch. That way you'll preserve your user settings. After you have it all on your new computer, you can install Legacy again over the top of everything to make sure you have all the files that should be there. I think that's how I'd do it anyway if I was where you are. For the future, there's a backup button that can be dragged onto your toolbar in Legacy. Right click on the toolbar and it will bring up a menu of icons. Find the backup button and drag it up to the top and click OK. Or you can back up using the File menu. It says right there - Backup Family File. This will create a zip file. Make a folder for them wherever you want and you can customize the Location for them on the Customize Backup screen. In the future you can use Restore to bring back a zip file. - JL Beeken JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists http://jlog.jgen.ws/ On 3/24/2013 9:02 PM, elizabeth wrote: Well, in this day and age there are still some who don't know everything..:-) I didn't even know Legacy had a 'backup' button. I've never seen it so it must be hidden somewhere. I use a flash drive for backup for my computer information. I always just copy/paste from my hard drive to the flash drive whenever I need to update the things I have on my hard drive.As far as I know I have never 'lost' anything by doing that. However I am not sure about moving Legacy to another computer which is why I am asking. I do have the main Legacy folder backed up on the flash drive (C:/Legacy). I also copy/pasted the original legacy 'exe' file from my 'Downloads' folder (C:/Downloads). This was the original .exe file I used to install Legacy on my computer when I first began using the program. I have updated the program now and then). Can I just download the latest Legacy version of the free program from the Legacy web site and then copy/paste the Legacy folder from my flash drive into the C:/ of my new computer? Or won't that work? Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Computer crashed - how do I move legacy to new computer?
That's what I would do Elizabeth. Download the free version of Legacy on your new computer, then insert your flash drive with your Legacy file on it; then just 'open' the file on the flash drive and 'save as' to your new computer in whatever file/folder you like. Whenever you close Legacy, it should prompt you to backup your files; if it doesn't, there is probably an option that is toggled off. It still automatically saves everything that you change so as long as you keep using that same file to make changes, you probably didn't lose anything. It is more risky though, to try to remember to copy everything the way you describe (although I may be missing something in your description) You can also use Dropbox for a 'backup' copy so even if your computer crashes, there is always an offline copy. That's where I backup mine anyway. Good luck! Kathy On Sun, Mar 24, 2013 at 10:02 PM, elizabeth newi...@gmail.com wrote: Well, in this day and age there are still some who don't know everything..:-) I didn't even know Legacy had a 'backup' button. I've never seen it so it must be hidden somewhere. I use a flash drive for backup for my computer information. I always just copy/paste from my hard drive to the flash drive whenever I need to update the things I have on my hard drive.As far as I know I have never 'lost' anything by doing that. However I am not sure about moving Legacy to another computer which is why I am asking. I do have the main Legacy folder backed up on the flash drive (C:/Legacy). I also copy/pasted the original legacy 'exe' file from my 'Downloads' folder (C:/Downloads). This was the original .exe file I used to install Legacy on my computer when I first began using the program. I have updated the program now and then). Can I just download the latest Legacy version of the free program from the Legacy web site and then copy/paste the Legacy folder from my flash drive into the C:/ of my new computer? Or won't that work? On Sun, Mar 24, 2013 at 8:42 PM, JLB j...@jgen.ws wrote: One just has to wonder how these things happen in this day and age of free and virtually free backup options. Do you have any Legacy BACKUPS? I mean the zip file that's created when you click the BACKUP button. If so, install Legacy on your new computer. Then click the RESTORE option in Legacy and browse to your most recently dated zip file (on a flash-drive or wherever you've got it by now.) Follow your nose through the rest of it. There's another dealie-do with the USR files but I'll save that for now. I'm wondering what you mean by your 'download folder'. Without knowing that I'm not sure what else is on your mind. Was EVERYTHING on one computer? Did you lose EVERYTHING? If not, what DO you have to work with Legacy-wise? - JL Beeken JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists http://jlog.jgen.ws/ On 3/24/2013 8:27 PM, elizabeth wrote: Hi, I couldn't find an answer I could understand in the archives so I am hoping someone can help me here. My computer crashed and I need to move legacy to my new computer. How do I do it? Can I just copy/paste the 'Legacy folder' and the 'Legacy.exe file in my download folder' to my flash drive and then copy/paste them to my new computer? I use the free version of Legacy. Thanks! Elizabeth Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog
